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EDP445 Documentary, The WNBA's Transgender Problem & Who's the Real Face of the WNBA? · Heads Of State Podcast

• 0:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yo, we got Heads of State and Twelve Hub Podcast Collab part two, because I gotta travel.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_02: Drew's out of commission.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_02: Sean, happy birthday.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's his birthday.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_02: Happy birthday, Sean.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_02: Bourne blesses, Playboy.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's he's uh eating crab and on a beach somewhere and eating shrimp and lobster, all types of seafood on a beach somewhere right now.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: He will be back next week.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Drew's gotta handle some family family stuff.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_02: So he might jump on later, though.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_02: He said he might come through later, but we got a full episode tonight.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_02: Kari's back.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I might let me rearrange the squares on the screen.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm I'll be the I'll be the man in the middle.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just here, man.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm happy to be on this uh platform opposed to just talking about footwear and the weird people that's into it.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh god, we missed you the last couple weeks.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we held it down because you know, we had we we talked about stuff, but we were just lucky that there's because it wasn't I always say there's not much going on in the world of uh kicks right now, but there's a lot of interesting shit going on in the world of kicks, meaning like change, you know, about the culture and stuff like that.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_02: But the rest of the world is still moving.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_02: And apparently, and we were just talking about this, but there are trans.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know these people were trans, by the way.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_02: Ennis Cantor and Royce White are transitioning to women and want to play in the WNBA.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, sir.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: Can I preface this, please?
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Ennis Cantor and Royce White are too um transgender.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: Well, then no, they're they're just starting shit online to be cool to.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_02: They're committing to the bitch, is what you're saying?
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_02: No, they're not.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: They're committing to to chopping.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: They're frauds.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: They're frauds.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: He was an alright player.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: He was alright.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'll give him a Ms Canton, yeah.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: He could at least score.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: He couldn't do shit else on the court, but he gets you a bucket.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_01: And ever since then, he's kind of transitioned to being like a rabble rouser, like a troublemaker, like rabble rouser.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's some old 1920s shit we say.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: But no, and Royce is like, he was a never been.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like he could play, but he transitioned into like the political space, the Jason Whitlock era, which is cool.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: And the thing about the social media, everyone has their own little lane.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: But this is just, they're just doing this for like clicks, bro.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like, this is not even to me, it's not even interesting.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Royce is running for Congress or Senate or something like that.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: He lost three times.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_02: He ran three times, lost three times.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: Gotta love American politics.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody gets a shot.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and Ennis just kind of jumped on that bandwagon after he got kicked out of the NBA.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever happened to, hey, I can't play in the big leagues, I go overseas, and if that don't work, I hit up ice cube and just join the geriatric league.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: What is it?
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_01: Royce is in the victory.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_02: But he played in Canada.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_02: You know why he didn't make it in the NBA, right?
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_01: He can't fly.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't like flying.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_02: He doesn't like flying.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: He gave up millions of dollars to not fly on a plane.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: That's a fucking loser.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he's got to have a diagnosed phobia if he's willing to let all that break up.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_02: Bro, I don't know.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_01: He's wild.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: He's wild.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: He's a wild dude.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, I think he I think he had PTSD or some shit.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he got he got a lot of issues with him.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: So in a terrorist attack or something?
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what the hell?
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like Michael Beasley.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: You remember Michael Beasley, right?
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Michael Beasley.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: He's still kind of like in that same vein of this like super talented.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like Michael Beasley, growing up in our area, I mean, he's he's one of the best players.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: I honestly I tell people this all the time, pound for pound, he actually might be better than KD, just from a pure basketball sense.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: Do you still watch him?
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because he's still be on social media.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: He's in a big three.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's still busting like strapping 30.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_01: He's just the mental side of it is very tough for him.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: And he he never got diagnosed as a kid.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, at 40 now, it's like he's trying to recover from that, and it's tough.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, yeah, no.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: Royce could play though, man.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: He was a lottery pick, wasn't he?
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was uh oh, I want to say he was in the top, he was top 20.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_02: I think that he could play.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was in the top 12.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_02: I think he got picked 12 or something.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: Something like that.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: He could legitimately ball.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you know, you throw it all away now.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_02: He's doing whatever.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: He's grifting on this political shit.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: But um the big the controversy really kind of spun into a whole conversation about understanding the WNBA and how they operate, and and just major sports in general.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like like there's no official rules around transgender people joining leagues, but there are strict rules about people of different not no, there aren't any strict rules.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_02: No, there aren't.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_02: We looked this up because I had to do research or um this other thing.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_02: So you can try out for a team if you're a man or a woman, transgender or not, right?
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: Is that across both leagues or just WNBA?
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh both leagues.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because there was a woman that was drafted in the 1970s to the NBA.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there was.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: She never played, but you know, she I guess she had she had like mental stigma around it, I believe.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_02: She must have been good though, to be able to do it.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_02: But back then they were all coke heads and then you know, whatever.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_02: But so there's that, and then um WNBA again.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, men don't try to be on the WNBA.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_02: What's the point?
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_02: Uh if you could poop, you might as well try the NBA.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_02: And there's you can make you can make more money doing Big Three playing in Europe or wherever.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_02: So why would you go to the WNBA?
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_02: But they don't have strict rules around this, and obviously trans people are kind of in this outlier group that does it work or does not.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: And they have looser rules around this in um Europe.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know, I know you all seen that man that's running in the Monaco team in the Euro League, right?
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_02: I think in the you seen that?
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_02: That's not true.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm I I'm sorry I I sound transphobic by saying this, but that is a man.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_02: This dude is jacked, and he is playing, he's averaging like 30 and 20 a night.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'm dead serious in Monaco.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, let me show you.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_02: Let me show you.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_02: Let's get some content.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is, it is trans.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: So what is this like?
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they they allow, not allowed him, but like, is he cool with it?
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: Are the other players cool with it?
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: The league's cool with it, the Monaco League?
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I think get Julie Turto.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's a dude though.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let me show you.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_02: Let me show you.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I I'm not sure how other countries view transgender athletes.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_02: That's not him.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, Mr.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: Thomas.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's a wild cut.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_02: This is that's look at those arms, yo.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_02: That's a that's a dude, yo.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: I don't care what you say.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_02: Let me see his stats.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_02: Let me see his stats.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: I showed stats.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, wait, 6'3 French trans player Were it is uh transgender basketball.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_02: 2120 a night.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_02: Damn.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, come like, come on now, like that's a dude, though.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, make their way to the WNBA.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's fake, but yeah, this this guy could be in the NBA, man.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_02: This this this this yeah, this lady could be in the WBA.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_02: I mean in the NBA.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: They're out there wrecking shopping the in the female league over here.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm pretty sure that this this lady right here, your favorite player, Dayude, Sophie, and she saw she saw that shit on social media, was like, oh, we don't want that in our league.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: She can take my spot.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that's what that were.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like, see, and this that's the thing about like 2026-2020 social media era.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: If you wait a minute, he had 25, like, come on now, like 25 games, 500 points, 500 rebounds, 44 assists.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, look, 6'3 with those types of muscles and stuff, definitely.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you be putting up Chamberlain numbers on them.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but like, yeah, like what is the point of like this?
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's the point?
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_01: I uh I'm just so over it.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like, well, what is gained by coming him him coming him or whatever is coming to the WNBA?
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what is gained by it?
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_02: What is gained by oh, and it's Cantor or or Julie here?
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, any of them.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you guys trying to prove?
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then you see Klay Travis, I don't know if you saw him, but he's like, I'll give$10,000 for the high school team to beat the WNBA All-Star team.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_01: Have you guys seen that one?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's just it's corny to me, but I guess it's like popular or cool to try to start.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: A bunch of men could beat women.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, look, everybody knows that.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone knows that.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's not yeah.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: So what's never you've never heard Caitlin Clark or any of them say, yo, I could beat Shea Gillis, Alex Dander.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, are you kidding me?
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you never seen Serena Williams say, Oh, yeah, I could beat Pete Sampras or Roger Federer.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's not that's not a diss.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's not a diss saying you cannot beat them.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: When did it become such a a diss to say, yo, uh a guy shouldn't be playing with the with the girl?
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's I think the whole trans thing has to do with it because it's like it's a thing.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you get into those politics of it, that's what makes it a thing.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I always my stance on a lot of this is that trans people should have their own league.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_02: But it's not it's it's not beneficial because it's like with the bathroom thing, right?
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: Now you have you have men and women's bath, you make a trans bathroom.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's just more money coming out of these businesses to serve a tiny piece of the population.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_02: We're talking about 1% of people are trans.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_02: 1% of the whole United States.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: So, like other countries have unisex bathrooms.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: We're not quite there yet.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_02: There are unisex bathrooms some places, but like we're too, you know, whatever about it.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: Old fashion is the best way I'm on the internet.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: We're too American about that.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's all category.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, pretty much.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_02: And that's it's it's sad because, like, yo, there's stalls, you know, no, no, if you're thinking the only reason somebody goes to the bathroom is to try to look up little girl skirts or kidnap you or rape you in the bathroom, you're the one with the problem.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying that you got this.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's what you're thinking about when you go through.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's a it's a hypersexualized culture here in the States.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: I know, and you see all that shit.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like we were just talking about that that the catch of predator shit and everything.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like, whole documentary.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I did not.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_02: You did watch it, Philip and my brother.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, so uh, can you give us some context before we jump into the topic?
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_02: We might as well jump in.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, so I am a child of the internet.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: I grew up watching uh EDP 445.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: He was always uh controversial, foul-mouthed, crude personality.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, people watched him for his crazy takes on the Philadelphia Eagles, his I Just Took a Shit in Chipotle, his um misogynistic views toward women, but he's an incel.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: He's 445 pounds, he's he's an incel with a loud mouth who caught fire on YouTube.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_00: With him being an incel, him attracting the opposite sex was always a challenge.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: No matter how popular he got on YouTube, he didn't know how to court a woman, besides the fact that he's like an amorphous blob of disgustingness.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: So god damn.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_01: I guess he's not on your Kwanzaa list this year.
• 12:21
  unknown: No, no, definitely not.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: He's a challenge.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck that guy.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: But um, and I don't even want to say alleged because in the doc, spoiler alert, he openly admits to everything.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: So around slightly after the pandemic, 2020, 2021, he was messaging what he thought was a 13-year-old girl in California, his home state of California, and the messages were beyond disgusting.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: He's sending selfies, he's jacking off, he's and you can tell he's an incel because you're trying to court a woman, or in this case, a a child.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: It was a decord, but he's trying to court someone and you're sending them pictures of your shit.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, you want to see something cool?
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Look, I just took a shit in the toilet.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: What like why, brother?
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, besides the fact that that's a child, why would you send that to anybody?
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: But long story short, he's displaying intent and it's getting sexual, and the decoy is like, hey, my grandmother's gonna be gone.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm baking cupcakes.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Please come see me.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I'll give EDP the smallest amount of credit.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, I shouldn't do this, I know this is wrong.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: He blocks the girl, she guilt trips him.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: They're going back and forth on it.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: Long story short, he decides, hey, I'm gonna take my million plus subscriber YouTube ass.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's seen the Eagles in the Super Bowl, he's done commercials, he's got cars, he's a successful YouTuber.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Shit do people kill for.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna take all of that.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: The money I could be using to be paying a woman of the night to take care of me.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna drive a couple hours to Bakersfield, California to meet up what I think is a 13-year-old girl for sex.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_00: And this was in the wild, wild west of YouTube Predator catching.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: Now YouTube's more refined.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna make predator catching videos, law enforcement has to be involved and certain things have to be edited out and stuff.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: But man, he shows up, they pull the cameras out on him, and he completely bitches out.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: This is a guy who would flash his firearms on a camera, he'll say vulgar stuff like, I don't care for bitches.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: One, I want some ass.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll I'll beat the shit out of anybody who talks about tough guy, big tough guy, voice quivering, asking this his life over, embarrassed, too fat to run away.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: So these predator poaching guys, one of them being a guy named Alex Rosen, who was in support of um Chug the Builder recently.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's a guy that worked with um, what's his name, right?
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_02: Gideon.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, he confronts him.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: The video goes super mega ultra viral.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: I remember that.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, sure.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because they approached him and did not have law enforcement involved.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: EDP, pun intended, walks with this.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, sure.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: But at this point, his life is over.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, even though he didn't face criminal charges, right, his life is over.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: He lost his YouTube, right?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, he lost his YouTube, was banned from TikTok, this, that, and the third.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, his life starts spiraling.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's got stage five, kidney failure, he goes to dialysis.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: He he couldn't keep a job because the minute someone would see him in public, they report him.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he tried to legally change his name at one point.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: And to make it even worse, he kept trying to meet up with minors.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: He caught in stinks.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, wow.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: They caught him too.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: He got a real issue.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: He got a real issue.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Real issue.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: Now, the reason he's not behind bars is because Gideon and all the other amateur predator hunters botched these investigations.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: One of the investigations involved Gideon encouraging a 15-year-old girl from his Discord to lure him actively.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, completely mishandled.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then the public opinion is are you doing this to protect kids or are you doing this for clout?
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: EDP should not be a free man right now.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Even in the documentary, they interview actual, you know, attorneys, and they're like, because the statute of limitations has not been reached, and EDP's in the documentary retelling all this stuff, they're like, brother, stop making this documentary.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: You can go to prison still.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's how blatant his crimes are.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: And yo, bro, like at this point, it kind of doesn't matter.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: It does, because predator catching is a major thing.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: People who have these issues is rampant in this country, let alone across the world.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: But the man has stage five kidney failure.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: He's got like a year to live.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: You think I didn't watch that?
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: And his predator sting was about three, four years ago.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: So this man is on borrow time.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: So what was he eating?
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_02: Because I I've had I had uh everything.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_02: Your kidneys, um, I had a kidney issue, but it was I think it was some dehydration.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: My kidneys were functioning at 50% when I went to the doctor.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: They thought I was gonna die.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: And then, like, next time I came back, my shit was back up.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, they were like, oh, false alarm.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, kidneys, kidneys not anything to play with.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's a reason why so many dialysis centers in the States.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: And he's at a stage where if he misses all treatment, his likelihood of death is in the 60 percentile and hype.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: So he's he's on borrow time, man.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: But like, if you don't know who EDP is, listeners, that is a fantastic way to learn about him, his legacy.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: As you can see on the screen, H got uh the legend himself, Chris Hansen, soon to be played by hottest actor on the planet right now, Robert Pattinson.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: Robert Pattinson, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Which that trailer was nuts.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, they have a trailer out for this already?
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh for primetime, yeah, bro.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Robert Pattinson is him and Zende are going for the everything.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: They should have got Timothy in every movie, though.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: They should have got Chismothy Chalamet.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: That would have been dope.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm surprised they didn't get Robert Pattinson to play Black Panther, goddamn it.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like Jesus, you know, he's in everything, man.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: I definitely gotta check this out.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's out uh the documentary's out already.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I had a notification set because this guy also did another documentary on the YouTube personality who fake cancer, Boogie2988.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: He makes great shit, bro.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, he fake cancer?
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, wait, wait.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: I like Boogie, man.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: I used to watch him when he's doing his weight loss.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, bro.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: He fake cancer.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: See, that's the see.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I'm I'm 45, right?
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm I'm maybe aged out, but why would I watch someone fake cancer?
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't I don't get like how that's even entertaining.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just watch MATLOC.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: He was he was down on his luck.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's also no pun intended because he's also very large, a big YouTuber who had four million subscribers.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: They used to call him the Mr.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: Rogers of the Internet.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: And his true personality over the course of his time online started to reveal itself, especially after he had a very messy divorce.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and to garner sympathy, he told everyone he had a rare form of blood cancer because of a testosterone hormone he was taking.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: And like it wasn't no one had any suspicion that he was lying.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: But as he kept making content and the tractors started to form, and his stores started to fall apart.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you guys know the left wing YouTuber Destiny, right?
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all know who's I don't know if he's left wing.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's destiny's a character on his own TV shoot.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: But destiny called him out on it and he denied it up and down, then evidence piled up.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: It got to a point, long story short, he was on a live stream and they said, dude, confirm your cancer diagnosis.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: It got to a point where YouTubers were coming into the live stream saying I'll put in 10k towards your treatment.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: The betting pool ended up getting up to like yo, 80k, a free trip to Disney.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: All he had to do was confirm to a non-biased third party, hey, here's my medical records.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: After saying several times, I'm looking at my medical charts right here.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: But he had this moral line, I won't reveal my medical records.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: Dog, we've seen you virtually naked, you've cried on camp.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like he's he's one of those people whose life is on the internet, it's just documented.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: So, why of all of a sudden do you have this one thing you want to hold close to your chest when that dude who made this documentary about Boogie chronicled your life and he and you told him every medical condition you had?
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Somehow you neglected to mention you had a rare form of blood cancer.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Long story short, he had to admit it that he didn't have it, and he has been a model.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Did he lose any followers then?
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: He lost some, but I'm not gonna lie, it was a boost to his career because he became just as pop, he was he was popular, hated, but like it was up to that point I was following that shit on a regular basis.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: The cancer arc is what they called it.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: It was not on the arc where he fake cancer.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: I like like you said, from my perspective, and that uh like you said, I I don't follow none of the streamers.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: I respect, I'm I'm not gonna respect, I don't even know them, right?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: And it's no diss to them.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: I hope they make a billion dollars.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: I hope they find a cure for cancer.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's just it's just not in my lane, it's it doesn't appeal to.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Me, it's almost like Drake, for instance, right?
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like I respect the brother, I like some of his music, but his music done move me.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like, he just it's not a I just it just doesn't move me.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: Me at 45, but then again, Drake's 42, so it's like you kind of forget that sometimes.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: He's 40.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: He's 40.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: Oh he's turning 40.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: He's pretty old in rap terms in October.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_02: He's turning 40 in October.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, think about that though, who that's older rap terms.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: Not really.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Jay and now 40 for a minute.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's old in mainstream rap terms.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you gotta think, you gotta think that the culture's only been around since 1979.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: So as long as I've been alive and I'm 47.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: But you gotta look at you know the current generation of kids that consume rap and stuff.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: You hit 30, you a skeleton to them.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: You unk.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: A hundred percent that that's more the angle I was coming at.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like at 2730, you're like, who are you like you're dead?
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like you just like not really these younger kids, man, like my nieces, they're in their tweens and teens.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: They appreciate the older hip-hop.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_02: They're listening to 90s hip-hop, early 2000s hip-hop, because their parents will listen.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it's like uh these kids who grew up listening, like soul music and and the Beatles and Rolling Stones, you know.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_02: The music passes down through generations.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: So like Kari's generation, they're they were caught like in the middle, so they didn't really appreciate the 90s.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: 33.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he didn't grow, yeah.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: He was young enough to be exposed to it, but you were like what fucking two, three years old.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I thought like my first CD I probably owned, not by proxy of an older sibling.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: Was uh Get Richard Die Trying.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: Reasonable doubt.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not like I went to go get it because I was three, it's just one I always remember seeing and listening to, like Dynasty, Dynasty Era, Ho.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, definitely like I had Git Richard, Die Trying.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: I had um 2003.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: I had 12, 11, 12.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that's that's 10.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're 10.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_02: So I started listening to hip hop when I was about 10, yeah.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's when you start really, yeah.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, my sister was a little older.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_02: She's four years older than me, so she put me on.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: She would be listening to like hot 97 and stuff when we were in New York and taping the mix shows.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: So I tried to be you know cool and listen to the shit too.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: I was um heavy, heavy because of my brother into No Limit and Hot Boys.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I I still I still know what was going on in the 99 and the 2000s, bro.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: So there's a lot, yeah.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, like this generation has the benefit of an infinite archive of information.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: So you got some asteriskes, like people will forget because of cultural relevancy, Scissor, Kendrick, Drake, they're all relatively older.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: These new cats that's coming out, uh XYZ Catapult and Little Infinite Youngster, but even though I'm only 33, I don't know none of these motherfuckers.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know these.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: Is that a real name?
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: Little infinite youngster?
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, that's not that's gonna be my stage name.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: What I want to give the deck.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_02: Can I tell you something?
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of how some of these new rappers, yo, that they they don't even rap.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like they just they just say shit and it's terrible, and the production quality's terrible.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: And some of them brag about how bad they produce music.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like they say, oh, I recorded on my phone while I was taking a shit, and then the fucking shit got like 10 million streams.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_02: So it's a different F and AI.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_02: Now, now that's a that's a thing.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_02: Have y'all I mean, I've been listening to that Felix Flexon song, I've been loving that shit.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's in rotation, I'm not gonna lie.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, there you go.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: And and I don't know the heavy diamond chain.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: I tried, I tried to I tried to put them on, and it was like, nah, I can't.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_02: But apparently they're saying it's AI, but he's still standing by the whole fact, even though he leaked the snippet, he leaked the snippet online before it came out with the tag for the AI software they use still on it.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_02: So I sat there, I was like, just say, I mean Yeah, at this point, brother, just admit it, bro.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like when a woman now she'll tell you, yo, I got a BBL, a dude will tell you I went to Turkey, bro.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: Just say it, fool.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like to when I first heard four bats, I was like, there's no way that that's that guy's actual voice, is it?
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: Is it?
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, is it?
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: See, I to this day I don't know, but like that's part of the allure, bro.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, that's that could be auto-tuned easy.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know I know he's singing, but they could all they have to auto-tune to pitch it up, maybe.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, who who is this?
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_02: Four bats?
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: For bats.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_02: He had like a little run, he's done now.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he he collab with Drake and Wale.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: He had a couple viral songs because his voice is that of like someone from the stylistics, but his look, his like thugged out, yeah.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: Thugged out, black.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like little.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I think I think I know he's little, he always wore a shisty, too.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, the crazy part about it, you know, he was he was a collateral damage in the Drake Kendrick beef because the when they got when that song came out with Drake on it, it was up.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_02: And they were putting money behind him, right?
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: And then everybody started hating on Drake after that, and then like that was just like nobody cared no more about that record because they were so engulfed in the beef, and then it just got lost in the mix of things, like because Drake wasn't putting out any music.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_02: That thing was like, eh, you know, and then his time just passed.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_02: And now, dude, I know the people who did marketing for him, um, but they spent a lot of money like putting getting him in front of those uh those those microphones next to garbage cans and shit, doing like on the radar freestyles and getting him reviewed by every music reviewer.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_02: So I was I was a fan of the dude, I'm not gonna lie.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_02: Those songs are pretty good.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it kind of makes me think about baby key.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like when that beef stuff happened, he's good though.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: I like he strategically dipped.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: King got skills.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: He won the case.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: When the beef, you notice when the beef ended, he dropped casino recently.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: And he came out, he came out clean, bro.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: He was like, why this is going on?
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not dropping shit.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: Smart.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: He was he did this smart.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: I like casino.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: Good record.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's a good record.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: Did you guys did you guys see uh J.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: Cole sort of five straight shows in New York City?
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: Is that move the meter?
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: Album still sucks.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: I will admit, as a Cole fan, I have not heard the whole album.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_00: Just didn't I just it didn't make me want to stop my schedule?
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: Hold on, wait, hold on.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_02: You're a Cole fan, you didn't listen.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: I don't like J.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: Cole for shit.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: I listened to the whole thing twice.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: To be fair, because of my schedule on ADHD, it's hard for me to listen to a whole album all the way through without being on a road trip or something.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's just not good, that's why.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can make that.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: I listened to all three Drake albums.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I have ADHD too, for the most part.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: The reason I didn't listen to all three Drake albums is because he dropped three albums.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, brother, I'm not talking about this album.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Manisha on the beach, she bang, and that's all you get for me for a little bit, right?
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: I just I you know it's it's interesting.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't know where music's going, right?
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's just everything just feels so kind of corny, not corny, but it just comes and it goes.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of it is very it's just coming and going.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: And now yeah, like and then again, maybe if I was 13, 14, I'd think differently, right?
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like at 45, maybe it's not meant for me to enjoy it.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's not meant for me to really bang with it, you know what I mean?
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's just, I don't know, it's just so disposable now.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: It is super disposable.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it depends on what comes out, and and music has always been there's always been like disposable music, it just doesn't touch your ears because you go to a record store back.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean, you know, you go to a record store.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_02: But what's their record store though, right?
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like it doesn't matter, but there's a ton of albums because I'm just saying there's albums because now Best Buy doesn't even have a music section anymore.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm just I'm just saying if you went to the record store back in the day, there'll be albums, like just tons of albums with major label, indie, whatever, and you're not checking for everything.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: Now you have the option to check for everything whenever.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_02: So you could, and then then you have SoundCloud and YouTube and all these different places to discover old and new music.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: So you have too many options, you're saying you have too many options, but it also gives you the opportunity to choose what you want to listen to, and that's why, even though the system is rigged, you know, with streams, an artist will never be as popular.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Well never well, an artist will only be as popular as how many tickets they could sell to a concert now and all that type of stuff.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_02: The money really ain't there when it comes down to it because they they keep reinvesting, and the and the music industry is run off a catalog now.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: So Michael Jackson, Drake, any big artist, Jay-Z, whoever has you know, owns that catalog makes money.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_02: And these new artists they just invest in them, hope they get one or two records that pop off.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's a cycle, but like it's it sucks.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_02: And um, we don't know we don't really get the opportunity to kind of discover music like we used to.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: I used to discover music on the radio, like college radio.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: They don't even have do they even have college radio anymore?
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think so.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: We and and back back back home, we from we had Morgan State Radio, strictly hip hop, right?
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: That is where you would literally, and it came on at 12 o'clock Friday night.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: So me and my brother would do the first half, take, go to bed, sleep, take, wake up, and you might find criminology.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, literally, that's when we first heard criminology.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: And that shit, you hear it, and you're like, yo, this shit is I've never heard nothing like this before in my life.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: I know Black Moon was popping.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: You mean black?
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like college radio, you're right, yo.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like REM was found on college radio, Dave Matthews band, yeah, white bands, black bands.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_02: They used to track that shit.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like, uh I used to do when I was at Penn State, I used to do the college radio show.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_02: I used to run the station before I graduated, uh, at least the hip hop part.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: And we used to have to report numbers and uh to these like Hits Daily Double.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, there was this different there was these different things that tracked stuff for the record labels.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: So we'd send them the in these numbers.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: We they'd send us like packages of records.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'd had every album before it came out.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_02: I had all the great good stuff.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: And so we played promos.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_02: We had to play, we played whatever we wanted, really, just as long as it was new.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: But I used to get all these records, and I still got some of them, like these artists you'll never hear of.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like, dog, they used to try to get like when Kobe was rapping, yo, they released like every song of his.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_02: I have some shit that you like I it's out there, but like you wouldn't, it wasn't on the album.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like they they tested, like test not test pressing, you know, like promo vinyl.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like he did a song with Tyra, I think it was one of his singles.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's on Twitter.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he did the song with Tyra.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Remember, he he performed that at the um the rookie game in 1997.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: And think about that how long ago that was, right?
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's like ancient times 30 years ago, man.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_02: Right next year, yeah.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: Man, 30 years, but yeah, like the music was just so different now.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_02: But now if people have the opportunity to discover for themselves and become their own tastemakers, I guess.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's how kids are so eclectic now.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like my niece listens to everything from like pop music to to techno to old school rap, or anything that they want, they could just pop it in and listen to it.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, I I picked up, I don't know if I had picked up a physical copy or if I saw a post of the freshman class.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: I seen it.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: Gun to my head.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't name the first letter of any of their names.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: Letter of the wheel.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, the new worm.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: The 2020.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know none of them.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I saw that shit.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_02: And the freestyle was terrible.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_02: I heard terrible.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_01: One of the cats got off.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: I forgot his name, but I don't even think rappers can actually freestyle it, right?
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: They can't.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like on the radio stuff, probably be so rehearsed before they go into that place.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: If they even try to rehearse, yeah, and then now, like, right, you really don't have to try with the memefication of hip hop and rap culture, bro.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost like sometimes the shittier a person is, you'll hear you, it's too many hear me out, right?
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, hear me out, man.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, cuz catchy though, bro.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_02: Cause cutting catchy though.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: You're like, bro.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's what Sean B yeah, when he be sending them white girls rapping and shit.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, yo, dog, then no, this isn't like he's like, yo, she dope.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, no, she's not, she's terrible.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: Terrible.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_02: Why the fuck are you sending this shit?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: But I guess that does come to your point about like the new age discovery, the generation that's currently going on.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: You do feel special when something catches your vibe, and you like, yo, I think that's why so many stands because it's so many pieces of shit that when you find the gold nugget, you take pride in it.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's how I felt when I discovered Takashi 69, man.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like, but I was listening to Takashi before he started, before uh, what is it?
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Gooba, Goody, Gumma, Gumo, whatever.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's a Gouda.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_02: Gumo before Gummo.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was listening to his records, watching them videos and shit.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_02: He's a creative motherfucker.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: Which you know, obviously.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_02: He actually got some, yeah, he got some records, man.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I mean, I know we went weird and and and snitch and all that shit, but whatever.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's part of the game.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: But you got uh his music was good, man.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_02: He was very creative, brother.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: So a lot of this new generation of musicians don't know how to when they get on, because everything is chronically online to separate their old lifestyle to their new professional career.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's why we unfortunately got so many people, so many young talented artists getting murdered because they don't take that transition people or murdering people, like they keep hey, they're keeping it too real.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like yo, like, yeah, like yo, we're trying to like 22, bro.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: Don't you want to like chill for low to get a nice little monster relax?
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: Seducing the op, meeting up with him, killing him.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I killed that girl.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'm also out with it.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_02: And they tape it, they're doing a riding around town.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what's his name?
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what's the motherfucker in the Bronx?
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_02: He's in jail right now.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: Kflo Keyflock.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: K flop, K flock, K flock.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay, yeah.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_02: He shoot he shot somebody.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: He was wearing a uh a fucking Montclair, fucking patent leather with some fucking Amiri jeans and whatever, like spot like literally the uniform.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: Uh he was wearing some shit that only like 10 people had.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_02: I said it was like a advance.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, they said they they the reason why they caught him because they they found out like how many people owned that outfit.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_02: There was only like you know what I'm saying?
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_02: Because the jacket was like brand or some shit.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_02: And um, yeah, but yeah, you oh some guy blasting some motherfucker in the front of a bodega in the bronze.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's a barber shop in the Bronx.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_02: Why are you walking when you just got signed and you walking around your neighborhood still like looking for people?
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: Which is crazy.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's that flex, they ain't learned from Ricky, bro.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: You hey man, go to the next stage of your life before they pull up on you and put holes in you.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_00: Run Ricky Run.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yo, run, brother.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like shout out to Manolo Rose.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: He made a song called Run Ricky Run.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, Drake did a uh 20v1.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: Did y'all watch that shit?
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_02: The Drake 20v1.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_00: He got some golf girl.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the thing.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: He did it on the 20v1.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: So Lena the Plug was on there too.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: Anum 22's wife.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: Anum 22's fucking master.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_02: So they did, they did what was it called?
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: They said wait, wife, pipe, friend, or whatever.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so he said he's pipe, yeah.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, why wife, why, bestie.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: So he picked Bess the girl that he picked as his bestie is actually a girl I think he knows.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: I forgot her name though.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: Jordan, I think.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: No, Jordan.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, and he just gave her like a they knew each other.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_02: I think they I think she works for him, to be honest with you.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: I I I've seen her around.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: I've seen her around.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: So, and then um he they picked that big fat girl from Detroit, and yo, he was smooth as shit, you know.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, You look so nice.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, yo, I would have busted out laughing.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: Now, look, I know how to I know how to talk to ladies.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_02: I ain't gonna lie.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm smooth.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: I you know, older women, younger women, big girl, white girl, whatever.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: But that girl was huge, and I would have I would have giggled a little bit.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_02: He was like, Oh, he grabbed, he put he held a hand, like, you look nice.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: Did you see that shit?
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_02: No, he knows her.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: No, he he said, he said, I know you're gonna be like, yeah, he followed, he says, yeah, I follow you.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Don't you have a boyfriend?
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: And then she was like, Oh my god, you know who I am.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yo, this nigga, yo, he's so fucking tapped in.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_02: I ain't gonna lie.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_02: And he knows he is tapped in with the culture.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: He knew all of them.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: He was like Leonard the plug.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_02: He knew all of them.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: He knew all of them.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, hold up.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: He's a rich guy with internet access.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I wouldn't be that engaged with this bullshit.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: But go ahead, go ahead, Dayu.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: More importantly, listen, listen.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: And like you said, these brothers right here, my brothers, Hugh, Marble, right?
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: They introduced me to Drake before Drake was even Drake.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like before this was 20, like this was we was damn near babies, right?
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_01: Five when I was this is before even um before he is nobody.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, so I never really like per se loved his music, but you can respect the professionalism of this guy.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he is a professional, he is uh actually smart, like he's actually probably a cool ass guy to hang out with.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: Sans the rap shit, right?
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: So him him knowing like all this stuff, he just seems to be a very like eclectic thinker, like an intellect in a way.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't surprised that he knows he's tapped in.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm more surprised when he does the ick when he does the ignorant shit.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_01: Because to me, that's not even him.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like, does he do ignorant shit though?
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_01: Not per se.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_02: Did he?
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but when he's not.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, that was a freestyle.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_02: Freestyle over that Jay-Z beat.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_02: But whatever, yeah, yeah.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: I find him to be like the perfect rap superstar for today's time.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's he's he's well put together, he's scripted, he's smart, he's engaging, he's funny.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's an actor by trade, right?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: He has good melody.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_01: He's the perfect, he is the perfect modern day rap star.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the you know, and I I I I respect that and like that about him.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: People be thinking I'll be hating on him.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: No, I just think he's his music doesn't move me, but who the hell am I?
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm from a different era, you know what I'm saying?
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm from a that that's just it's not meant for me.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_01: And actually, the funny part is Drake is from my era, like he'll tell, you know what I mean?
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like he was around the streets like we were though, like that.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: We was we was out there in the club and shit.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_01: He knows everything from our era, like he knows that.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_01: He he could probably spit every song it was written backwards, like he's in the culture, he knows that shit because he's a student of the game.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: You can actually tell he is the student of the game.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_02: His favorite Jay-Z song is my favorite Jay-Z song.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_02: We talked about it.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_02: What song is that?
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_02: Lucky Me.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_02: So him and Nick were supposed to freestyle over that beat.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_02: I I got them the beat and they both wrote to it, but they never did the record.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: I was so pissed about that because I was like, they were like, yo, it's gonna go on his um comeback season mixtape.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: And they just never recorded it.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, why didn't you record that?
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: Lucky me is your favorite Ho song?
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you ever listen to that shit?
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_02: Why it's just relatable.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_02: Like, to me, no, look, look, look.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_02: When I was younger, look, I didn't know nothing.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know I ain't gonna play like I was like cool or anything like that or didn't anything.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_02: But like when he I could relate to a lot of the language in that record, and if you listen to it, you know, like you said, um, nigga see you in the street, pretend to be friendly, but I know any type of success brings envy.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_02: Not that I could relate to that because nobody wants to envy, I don't think people envy me in a per se, but like um, I can relate to haters and stuff like that, but also actually in college, I was like, I always I don't know what it is.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_02: I guess I carried myself with a little little gusto or something like that, where people would hate on me.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, who are you?
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_02: Why do you think you're so cool?
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I don't know, I'm just cool.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why are you why are you even asking?
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_02: So you know, but it it was it is weird.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_02: I just I just kind of just always carry that song with me, and it always makes me like feel better when I listen to it and hear that story that he's telling in that record.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's it even though some of it some of it's related to some of it's not, but I haven't heard that song probably in a while, but I'm gonna peep it tomorrow.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna peeper tomorrow.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean I remember the song.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's on volume one, right?
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: I used to have that shit on my wall in college.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_02: I put I printed up a big ass poster and put it on my wall.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta find that shit somewhere.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: But uh I remember like just knowing all the I do need to get that tatted on my arm somewhere.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna get that tatted.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_02: That's my next tattoo.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_02: Lucky me.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_02: The whole song, the lyrics.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_02: Post.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm gonna I'm gonna peep it.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't I haven't gonna be a the genius, the genius web page right on the shoulder, bro.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: Sanskrit
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: about the Drake thing um let me ask you this right why why why what but why is he doing like why is he doing this because I don't think he does anything without a plan or an ulterior mode it's keeping relevancy you got uh why is hove doing concerts or why is you know like you gotta stay relevant and he taps into the culture like that the the 20v1 shit like what real like did Kodak Black do one of those nobody really gave a fuck but when Drake does like Drake is too big to be doing 20v1s and some baking basic bitches yo like Lena the plug I mean yeah she's the Pollern star she's pretty hot you know but the whole way he carried himself you gotta watch it the way he carried himself and the girl that he picked to wife the goth chick yo and it's crazy because when he I I I remember him I they the clip is floating around now but when he did that last interview with Bobby Altoff you know that skinny white girl that that interviewed him yeah yeah yeah he said that he likes chicks like that like the goth chick with the the all black and he's like yeah because you know he said the same thing they said when he met this girl he was just like the minute he saw this chick he was like oh okay and then you know he instantly just gravitated to her and I was looking at I was like she would be interesting to like wife up like there would be no dull moment she's always gonna be playing the smash for God too yeah but it's just yeah but all of it would have been in my pain for that yeah remember we talked about last week though when Kari wasn't here we were talking about like when you get to a certain point you you've been through not all these women you start you start looking other directions like what could I like strange way of thinking you start trying to dab onto the dark arts well it depends on what you into but then that's how these guys like look at what diddy doing and stuff man like that shit was crazy you probably just get so bored with the game yeah that's yeah that's press parallel to the music thing you start listening to weird shit because you spoiled for choice you got so many streaming platforms with millions of songs for good point a nine dollar a month commitment hey brother Brooks and yeah and whatever the hell bro I can yeah yeah but you know that that Drake that that was he had no constraints really right now it was um I want to say Drake is he's no go ahead though my part my apologies no my bad bro no I was just saying like the Drake thing was so man he's such a good actor why did why does he lean into acting more like I I'm just his comedic time manual is top tier like you cannot teach that there's a lot of people who act who just aren't funny they could act their asses off they'll do Shakespeare they'll do all types of things but hit the way you can hit a a joke and the way he hits it he could be if you wrote him the good vehicle he could be funny.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: He could be funny whoever does SNL it's great.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah that's what I was going to say that why he did the 20v1 to your point is like Drake when he in beef mode it's like it's like when Drake takes himself very seriously especially in a field where it's like other people can give him some go people will say brother you come off as corny but when he relaxes the shoulders yeah you know eases the jaw the the Kv19 promotion hey that shit was dog shit but the commercials are great what's that skit he did with Chris Brown ooh here comes the snake oh yeah when he did it on that um that song yeah Kendrick Lamar probably would have to admit that that shit was funny like when he realizes that he's the man and he don't have to take himself so seriously because whether you like his music his persona he's not a real this he was on the grassy once he lets that go in one ear and out the other with his persona even when he makes music say what you want about the beef first person shooter mode some of those lyrics was hitting I'm one away from Michael nigga beat it nigga beat it what like that was bro that was a bar fam and it's also true like that's kinda and I'm not saying they in the same same realm at all everyone listening this is a metaphor it's hyperbole even that's why Trump got the motion he got because he don't give a shit like he knows he at the top and he's gonna say what he wants because he don't give a shit what you gonna do about it yo man when you have when you have the platform when you got the following confidence just reign supreme and that's what he got yeah and that's why he couldn't lose like that battle shit with Kendrick he wasn't down for long and and honestly I don't think he actually took it out of a while I I wouldn't say look he went he went quiet for a while but that was because he didn't want to do what Jay-Z did when um you know he didn't want to do with another a super ugly you know after ether I he did the response record that what the heart part six was I thought was that was rushed but also it was respectable in my opinion meaning I didn't I didn't think that it was it was just like yeah I'm bowing out gracefully and then um because like yeah everybody just said he was the other guy was the winner so it was like you know but he did kind of that bar we was talking about um you know he he planted the evidence and had people that was all bullshit they was they were spying on him they was doing all you know like you know you know the whole controversy like they they stole like personal items from him and they did they had this whole thing like kind of like a setup so he he fell right into that trap and he tried to explain himself out but to me if that didn't work and it made him look corny but people forgot about it because you know he came back with the Nokia record the next year and people were like okay Drake's back and now he comes back with all the shit best tragedy he had to respond even though it had been two years but best tragedy is bro just like keep keep going bro like just yeah just keep going um that's to a lot of people when you get caught in a thing if you apologize and it's not sincere people shit on you.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_00: If you just act like it never happened people gonna shit on you if you still got motion you still got a face you didn't break any laws you ain't facing no jail time right just keep going because it will be forgotten.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_00: Keep going.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_02: No and and yo in 20 years 10 20 years people gonna look back on it and say like whatever and they'll be like not like us what the fuck is that shit why is he singing they're not gonna do that song is terrible it's like that song is in it's that song is in the uh in the pop culture it's in the culture it's way bigger than rap at this point.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's people don't give a shit about Kendra I know how you feel about it but objectively bro it's a joke do you look do any of you listen to that shit now if it comes on uh the radio or if it's in my playlist don't skip it I'm not skipping that or euphoria I like euphoria but I don't it's always been a better song than me but like I'm not gonna skip now like us.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_00: I like I mean the grams was alright too I ain't gonna lie even though it's kind of like damn you know you're going hard there homie um but when it comes to like beef stuff outside of just Drake and Kendrick I don't care what popular consensus are certain musicians to me make better songs overall even if a person that they're going up against is a better lyricist.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know um like that's why when you look at Jay-Z and Nas like there's a ton of people that's gonna tell you Nas the greatest rapper of all time the greatest New York rapper he won the beef XYZ but like mainstream appeal people will listen to a whole record more than the Nas one you know and like you said in time you kind of just like forget about that shit.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_00: Even Jay-Z will uh acknowledge man I got stronger after ether type shit but like y'all saw that stadium you know what I'm saying I will I will say this hove is hove we love him you put ether on he's gonna cry in the corner because that shit hit you here see there's one thing and that's what that's what people on stage I don't think it hurt her yours in your soul then that there's a lot everyone can have money man break it down bar for bar it's not good some childish shit you look like a camel I'm gonna say this it's a child when I was a child we couldn't grasp ether cultural zeitgeist bro when you destroy somebody you beef them with they call it ethering somebody bro it's a it's a fucking verb no it's a verb I was telling you this I was telling you this like two weeks ago it's a verb now it's something you do it's not it's not just a word it's something you do to a person yo and them was saying pause and no home on before anybody else so what the context of it saying a phrase nobody knows why nobody I haven't heard somebody say ether in in years come on here when's the last time somebody got ethered come on here bro it's the fact that it is a thing though fam like it's such a thing it was a thing it was a thing it's such a thing that if a child of my age range would say it some of them wouldn't even have the context of what they're talking about but it became a cultural they have no idea what ether is supposed to have no idea it was just it was it was a great it was a great song it was a great moment for someone who at that point hove was like Drake like he was untouchable he was he was a he was a he was like he was just untouchable and that shit just clipped him and to this day it just hurts it hurts have you ever you guys watch Marvel movies sure sure off the top of your head do y'all remember whiplash the main antagonist from Iron Man Daredevil yeah no from Iron Man 2 oh yeah yeah yeah Victor Calamingo played by Mickey Roy yeah yeah yeah I remember oh yeah he was in the hospital built most most people couldn't tell you the plot of Iron Man 2 let alone whiplash but he said a line when he fought Tony at the Grand Prix he lost that fight obviously but he made Tony Stark look vulnerable so when Iron Man goes to visit him in holding he goes make God bleed people stop believing in him then it's blood in the water and then the sharks come bro whiplash ain't been mentioned in the movie since but humbling Tony and phase one of the MCU stuck with him forever fam like all you gotta do if you make God bleed people stop believing him right like and that's what Ether did bro like either made people go hey at the end of the day Jay-Z is Jay Z.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying we're not arguing that Jay Zuner we love him he's great more yeah it's gonna be probably more populated than the president's funeral but everybody's gonna go man but you remember either ether got his soul yeah bro it was it was a moment are you are you a big Marvel fan hell yeah all right give me your top three movies oh man I practice this one a lot um arguably one of the greatest superhero movies period Marvel or not Captain America Winter Soldier oh golly top yeah it's top tier top freaking anytime that comes on it gets 10 minutes of my life bro i got i don't care what part it's at I'm gonna watch it I never seen when they filmed the scene with Nick Fury you never seen um winter soldier but I don't I didn't watch any of the Captain America movies I have to go revisit many of the war bro go go watch them um because it's the OG sure Iron Man it's a great story bro which one Iron Man 1 2008 like yeah yo now this one's always this this one will switch depending on my mood the first Avengers because as a comic book fan the characterization of those characters was so good and then infinity war look in game was the big coup de gras but infinity war boy man when that shit came out I heard they're gonna aren't they gonna aren't they gonna bring them back out just so we can get ready for doomsday they said they were gonna bring out at least in game with added footage that connects it to doomsday okay yeah yeah yeah whenever them tickets go live oh let's go because I'm in there bro what it what is your take on um black panther to three um oh wait no the one the one with yeah one with Shuri see I had a biased perspective and I gave it a lot more credit because as a comic book fan I knew eventually Shuri would become Black Panther sure my issue with that film was they put Chadwick Bozeman on this pedestal of Godhood where as a as a thespian as as an actor I wouldn't think he would want his role to be considered irreplaceable he's a student of the arts his family said that he wouldn't want this then William Hurt who played Thunderbolt Ross passes sure they replaced him with Harrison Ford immediately and and and yes yes in part three for the Hawk right the uh from like okay it felt like not to say Chad would get deserved memorium but it's like they pandered to black people to be like hey uh we would never replace Chad with Bozeman anybody else but but like Jonathan Majors gets into some controversy hey get his ass out of here so it's just like when do we replace people and y'all did all of that to announce Black Panther 3 and we have a new T'Chala and I'm just like Ryan Kugler and Marvel had to backtrack redo the script change direction when we lost Chadwick to incorporate this completely new brother just just recast it man it's okay nobody would have been mad bro nobody would have been mad and it's they really blew the whole black like Black Panther 2 should have been a$2 billion movie and right listen if Batman and Superman can be recasted why the hell can't Black Panther be recast like we got more than one black actor right like it just made no sense and now BP2 was so corny and no one ever rewatches it now Wakanda's like Memphis right it's just another place now no one cares about it.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah like the legacy of this story has been diluted with like pandering to blacks just for y'all to go on this tirade of canceling almost every black project every black show I know yo blade the whole black cancel blade yeah I'm like I honestly I I when when they say they was going to do blade I was like y'all not gonna do blade blade is too niche of a he's too niche of a of a character for the Marvel space right now.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_01: Even though you got people like Ant-Man and like movies like that but Blade they would they was never gonna do blade justice.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_01: A series would have been better a series would have been better with Blade because Blade is a dope ass character but he's very like you gotta really like narrow that shit down.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah because everyone always everyone always looks like at Fox's X-Men and Sony Spider Man yeah this was the pioneer of superhero movies getting taken seriously I'm like hey bro 1999's blade would like to have a word with y'all bro like I don't I don't I don't understand how people just well I mean I know why they do it but it's like that fucking first blade with Deacon Frost and like that shit was incredible.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_02: There would be times when I'm in traffic I'll see somebody do something stupid and I go motherfuckers always want to ice skate uphill out of nowhere bro like that movie was legendary yo blade blade one and two were some of the greatest times ever yours crazy man crazy so yeah Marvel trying to bounce back we'll see what we'll see what uh doomsday we'll see what they get yeah I mean um doomsday has I mean Spider-Man got them a quadrillion dollars already sure sure sure so financially they're not hurting it's just what is the impact product yeah like just like music just like sneakers it's not surprising for a Disney movie to make money but what was the impact like are we gonna be talking about this in a year exactly 100% 100% on that which is what what you got here what you got here one more topic one more topic well no I'm listening to y'all because I'm not yeah I'm definitely not like y'all but my favorite my favorite Marvel movie was Ant-Man so we go the first no guardians the Guardians of the galaxy or anything I always found those two entertaining Guardians is good yes and and I did like the um what do they call it the the Indian guy Eternals I think that was called right okay you're in the minority on that one I did like that movie for some reason it had a wholesomeness to it that I appreciated if you're not like invested in the MCU or in comics I wouldn't I'm not surprised you wouldn't you know I'm not really into the Spider-Man movies either I can't watch them for some they're boring to me all of them except for the first two maybe but like the old the the Toby McGuire ones or the new ones the all all of them really like I did even from the 2000s like back in the day I never really maguire was off the chain Spider Man I like the black Spider-Man what's his name um Venom Venom yeah they like those movies they were pretty good anyway Sam Raimi cooked with them movies man yeah what you what what you got Hugh a AOC's freezing her eggs now look that's your girl H is she married so uh yeah she's married to uh I think they got married or engaged she she married some ginger dude or she's engaged to some ginger guy yeah uh anyway that I don't care about all that I'm just saying it's interesting because I uh I I I I caught her uh little Instagram live where she was like showing injecting herself and stuff like that with the hormones and I was wondering I was asking around about this like under trying to understand female reproduction and how this shit works with the with the eggs freezing and all that shit like why is that such a big issue and it's crazy because you know women have you think you think about like we work with women right a lot of us and if they decide to start a family it just flip flops their whole life right yeah and that's what she was talking about in the in the in the um in the video how old is she she's 36 damn she only 36 yeah she's she's starting to get up there she's been around for a while though she started she got elected to Congress when she was 28 wow okay yeah okay so no so I thought it was interesting and then she said she's gonna document the whole process on Instagram or wherever on social media uh she did her because that that's what that's what people want to see you and you you document your life like listen listen I'm not I I I like I say you know I'm not in politics right well where we're from politics is our our local news so I you know we grew up in it um what what is gained by doing this I'm just curious like what is gained by doing this number this is this is the way people kind of engage with celebrities and politicians now like it's the sound bite it's the clip it's the live stream so the fact that people are watching this and trying to understand it and her addressing an issue that affects all women I found it intriguing.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah um and the fact I mean like her just doing it all and seeing how difficult this process is is is pretty cool to watch and um she had mentioned in one of the things I I did a little more research on it she mentioned that her insurance doesn't even cover this so she came out of pocket for it.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah and I I know how much it costs doing this thing it's like between three and four thousand dollars yeah three or four thousand bucks no it's a get just the process to get it all done and insurance doesn't cover it so and it's funny how like you know the Republicans are like we got to make more kids and stuff so you don't want women to like you know so whatever like to have you know more reproductive um resources I guess uh that's covered by insurance but whatever uh I I just thought it was interesting I didn't know like if there's do you guys have any opinion on this like do you do you be up in girls women's vaginas trying to figure out what goes on no but um in relation to a lot of other women that have professional careers a lot of them go without having children because you know the leave the you know multiple uh medical visits the cost like they have to factor that like you say a guy we cheat from the hip we do our thing and hey man we we go to a couple of bars classes we buy pickles and peanut butter rub a couple feet and like we're good to go but a woman's body goes through this radical change they have to take off from work they have to schedule appointments there's that huge fear of baby not coming to term you could die giving birth it's not as common as it was you could die you know what I'm saying can you imagine having sex with somebody and they go oh by the way
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_00: There's a possibility you could die if you you know what I'm saying.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_00: So the things that we don't think about, if we have a kid, we're gonna get a couple weeks of paternity leave, get used to this little crying pooping thing, and then we back at it like cracking.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right back at it.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_00: We'll make another one.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_00: We don't have postpartum depression.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's the thing.
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_00: So imagine having all of these things to contend with.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, by the way, I have to vote on laws that's gonna shape the American people.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_00: So then they have to be faced with a choice of start a family, the American dream, you know, especially if they will to do, like, hey, I can introduce a child to a good life, maybe something that I didn't have.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_00: Or just, hey, man, I just gotta be a spinster because I got a job to do, and I know I won't be able to have a smooth pregnancy.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_00: So that's it's impactful, man.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_00: And she could make a statement towards that is that's a good point.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_00: She could also make a statement to show Congress, hey, look what I had to do to start a family.
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_00: We need to start passing some things that's gonna help the average American conceive of child in this world that we supposed to be governing.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, but they they the Family Leave Act, but I think that was like what night like '82, or like it's some they need to probably update it and times have definitely changed, and that's a good point.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_01: And she's a very skilled politician.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_01: Now that's you cannot deny that.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_01: She has really tapped into how to leverage her fame and success.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, she's she's very good at being a politician, she's got a really bright future if she wants to continue doing this.
• 1:07:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because, like you said, maybe when she has her kids, she's like, I'm not doing this shit no more.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I just want to raise my family.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_01: I might write a couple books, do some podcasts, might even come on this show and like she just go about her life.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's um AOC's interesting.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_01: She's she's uh she's a star.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_01: There's no doubt about her.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_01: She's a star in politics.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_02: Flat out a little flip-floppy lately, you know, trying to she she needs to learn better.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um like she's not good at being a shady politician.
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_02: She's very transparent when she's lying, or she's trying to like not make a comment.
• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I've noticed more recently because she has like had some gaffes and some and flip-flopped on certain things that she was again, you know, the whole Israel thing and all that, but I get it because you have to appeal to both sides.
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_02: There's money involved, there's all types of shit.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_02: But like, you know, it's I I've always had a little more faith in her to be like the keep it real type of person, and she hasn't been that type.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, but you look, you learn she Nancy Pelosi.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_02: In that game, yeah.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_02: Bernie Sanders did, right?
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, Pelosi.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_02: And and Bernie.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_02: So she got Pelosi.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's pol, she's she's out there touring with Bernie when it when when they do their thing, but she learned a lot from Nancy Pelosi about being, you know, level-headed, even killed, whatever, appealing to both sides, um, even though one side doesn't like her, but they work with her.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so I don't know.
• 1:09:00
  SPEAKER_02: I just I just thought this was an interesting topic.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_02: You know, shout out to the women who are managing through these these times when you have to do things like freeze your eggs.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like I I understood it, you know, one point um we were researching that and looking at it, but it is a tough, it's a tough thing to do.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_02: And then you gotta think, am I gonna do a surrogate?
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_02: Am I gonna go ahead and you know carry the baby myself?
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and that all costs money.
• 1:09:21
  SPEAKER_02: Sarrogate's like 200 grand.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_00: Man, some people that's that was the uh that was the plot of that movie, baby mama.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_00: People were inspired to be like, yo, you can get how much for being pregnant?
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_00: Shit, I was gonna do that anyway.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_00: Run that baby.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's it.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_02: It is what it is, yeah.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh there was that Dijanae Carrington, who, by the way, is a very beautiful woman.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_02: She's a beautiful thing.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_02: The one that that that that fouled the shit out of Sophie Cunningham and then screamed white privilege on the internet, which I thought was interesting.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, what was now what was the whole I saw it, of course.
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's so funny you say that.
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_01: The WNBA is like shit show.
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_00: It it is the most polarized battleground for gender politics right now.
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like it's it's uh and it's actually some great basketball.
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I was watching the game maybe last week, it was New York versus um Seattle, right?
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_01: And Brianna Stewart was Seattle's.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_01: Brianna Stewart was just cooking.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_01: She was cooking.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, she actually is probably my favorite player to watch.
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_01: She's amazing.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_01: And like the game was so good.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like the spacing, uh, the back doors, the passing, it was so good.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm just thinking to myself, like, saying all the drama outside of this, uh huh, this league is in such good hands.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_01: If they could just like uh get rid of all that other stuff, which is corny, but it's popular, especially on the social media side of stuff.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_01: WNBA is from a value aspect, it's only gonna go up, right?
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's only, it's like it's didn't um the Cleveland just got a new team, right?
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_00: The Sirens, they're doing expansions like crazy.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_00: I know, like Yeah, like it's the state was an is an expansion team, and you know, they're rolling them up.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_01: They're doing really good.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's just they gotta get rid of all this uh political shit.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_02: I ain't look, I ain't mad at I never I'm I'm very critical of Caitlin Clark for not being as outspoken, but she has been talking a little bit more now.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_02: But her teammate, her one that Sophie Cunningham girl ain't helping her um with her her bullshit, and her coach is just terrible, and and their staff is just terrible at articulating these issues because they stand on one side, they're more on the ball.
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_02: But why did but but okay, but but Hugh, what listen?
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm here to play basket.
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, shut up and joke, right?
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm no, but literally, like, I'm here to play ball.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_01: My personal shit is my personal thing.
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_02: Why why do I have why is Caitlyn Clark asked to be the freaking They're not asking her why they're not the people her fan base the fan base that that that that she attracts does this when Fox News every time Caitlin Clark gets a technical foul or gets uh or gets uh gets gets hit or whatever, Fox News does a segment on it.
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_02: Every time Sophie Cunningham, no that that hurts, that hurts because now that's not her doing that.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's that political zeitgeist bullshit.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and it's like I just want to play ball.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, like when when LeBron like this is what they do to LeBron, they do that for LeBron too.
• 1:12:44
  SPEAKER_01: And LeBron loves the shit because he loves the attention, so he likes going on, yo, I'm vote, I'm voting for Hillary.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like, and I don't care, bro.
• 1:12:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yo, I like you because you play ball, right?
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_01: You're a hell of a ball player.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_01: I've been watching you since I was 20.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_01: But why would I care who you're voting for?
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why when did that even become a thing?
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_00: I said that on uh Instagram in that little note section.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I miss the days when we didn't know who people voted for.
• 1:13:14
  unknown: I don't care.
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yo, thank Trump for that.
• 1:13:17
  SPEAKER_01: That ain't that ain't no that's not no.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_02: That Trump did that.
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not saying it's LeBron's fault, but it's like that ain't Trump.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_01: Who did that?
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's people, that's people minding their own damn business.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's social.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_02: When a bunch of niggas is running around wearing red hats like this to say MAGA on it, you know who they voted for.
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that's different.
• 1:13:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's endorsing your party.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, this is the city.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_00: No, but no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_02: The motherfuckers in office, motherfuckers are still wearing that hat and has signs out in front of their house.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_02: And say in 2028, that's that's you're still that's a culture.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_02: That's culture now.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's culture.
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_02: So this culture that she brought, and that's not her fault.
• 1:13:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not blaming Kate LeCark for that.
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not blaming, I never did, but that culture that she brings in and does not chastise or or or denounce hurts her, hurts her.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, as far as like who she can cat carry, because a lot of people, and I I see a I watch a lot of WNBA like content creators, men and women.
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_02: Sure, sure.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_02: They're like, yo, I'm just talking about ball, and y'all in my comments talking about she's the best when she just went one for 20 and and fouled out the game and got her eighth technical.
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_02: So she's polarizing.
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_02: She's polarizing in the sense that she's I say, I say this.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_02: She's not I don't think she deserves to be the face of the league, number one.
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_02: Number two, she's just not that good as people say she is.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_01: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_01: Push back on that.
• 1:14:47
  SPEAKER_01: Push back now.
• 1:14:49
  SPEAKER_01: Okay?
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_01: She drops like 25 a game.
• 1:14:52
  SPEAKER_01: So you saying she whack.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you saying she's whack when she's not that great.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_01: She's not that great.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_01: Is she a top 10 player?
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_01: Is she a top 10 player in the league?
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_01: In the league right now?
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, today.
• 1:15:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_02: August 10th.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_02: I give her uh yeah, if you look at WMB is a little different.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, you got a game to it again.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'll give it away.
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so she's she's a top 10 player in the league.
• 1:15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Now so you you're thinking what she doesn't deserve all the credit, or she doesn't deserve the love or the respect or the attention, or what is your she deserves to be on a pedestal.
• 1:15:27
  SPEAKER_00: So when her teammate is outperforming her, not not to speak for you, but you feel like there's an artificial push.
• 1:15:35
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, it's a media push.
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_02: Media puts her every time she does good, it it's magnified ten times more.
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like, like which the way Sean talks about her, like, oh, she's the first person to fucking do 20 and 10 X amount of times.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, yo, Paige did it this year.
• 1:15:53
  SPEAKER_02: Olivia Miles is doing it again.
• 1:15:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, these things, these records that we're talking about, they're not untouchable.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_02: They just haven't been touched because the game was played a little differently over time.
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like, when you guys you you brag about how how much Jordan scored and shit, and I always compare him to Bernard King, right?
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, Bernard King could have done the same thing if he had a better team.
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_02: And you were saying, oh no, no, Jordan was magical.
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_02: He jumped over cartoon monsters and shit.
• 1:16:17
  SPEAKER_02: This player.
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_02: Whatever.
• 1:16:21
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm just saying Donovan Mitchell.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_02: This brother's dropping 30 points a game every night.
• 1:16:29
  SPEAKER_02: SGA.
• 1:16:29
  SPEAKER_02: This brother's doing the same thing Jordan did with more finesse, more style, and winning chips too.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like, except for James Harden, but you know what I mean?
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, this guy's on playoff, you know, on playoff teams that are doing the same thing, if not better.
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about more assists, more rebounds, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:16:45
  SPEAKER_02: Than Jordan.
• 1:16:46
  SPEAKER_02: And y'all sit here like Jordan was the best because he won.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm not getting into the body.
• 1:16:50
  SPEAKER_00: But see, that's different though, bro, because people comparing Caitlin to like Asian, like you said, Olivia, people who are active with her.
• 1:16:58
  SPEAKER_00: But Olivia's better than her.
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_00: See, here's the thing.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Paige is better than her.
• 1:17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Paige is averaging.
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_00: I get you, but here's the thing.
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm I'm I'm working with you here.
• 1:17:06
  SPEAKER_00: You're comparing Jordan to modern-day players in a completely different game.
• 1:17:11
  SPEAKER_00: The Caitlin narrative comes into play with people who are rubbing elbows with her actively now.
• 1:17:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I get, yeah, I get it.
• 1:17:18
  SPEAKER_02: But also historically, like, she would she would be like if she came along in the 90s or the early 2000s or even like the 2010s in the WNBA, she would have been a phenom, but nobody would have given a fuck.
• 1:17:31
  SPEAKER_02: The only reason she's popular is because Angel Reese sassed her in.
• 1:17:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's the only reason, Doug.
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_02: Don't do not tell me because they tried to give me that bullshit argument about her having the most points in Khali College.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_00: Of any Khalifa, Kelsey Plum, men or woman.
• 1:17:49
  SPEAKER_00: Kelsey Plum had that record before.
• 1:17:50
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, there's her some hype.
• 1:17:51
  SPEAKER_02: Doug, Kelsey Plum had that record before her.
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_02: And Kelsey Plum was playing.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_02: It stood for 10 years.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_02: He stood for 10 years, but listen, but nobody gave a fuck when Kelsey Jordan.
• 1:18:02
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody gave a fuck about when Kelsey did it.
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_02: They only gave a fuck when Angel Reese did this to her.
• 1:18:07
  SPEAKER_02: And she was like, oh, this is oh, that's the girl who scored the most.
• 1:18:10
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody gave a fuck about no Caitlin Clark scoring more points in college than I was true.
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_02: Don't get the fuck out of here.
• 1:18:15
  SPEAKER_02: I watched college hoops, college women.
• 1:18:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's not true.
• 1:18:19
  SPEAKER_01: If she had the number, she anytime her games were on, it'd be 20, 30 million people watching it.
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_01: The college games?
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:18:27
  SPEAKER_02: After the whole and angel Reese, too.
• 1:18:28
  SPEAKER_01: No, even before that.
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_01: Even before that.
• 1:18:30
  SPEAKER_01: But now the Angel thing took it to another reason.
• 1:18:35
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to like her.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 1:18:38
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 1:18:39
  SPEAKER_01: You don't like her.
• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_01: I guess she doesn't talk about political stuff.
• 1:18:43
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 1:18:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_01: The bottom line, bro, is she did come at the right time.
• 1:18:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not disputing that.
• 1:18:49
  SPEAKER_01: It was timing.
• 1:18:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:18:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not disputing that.
• 1:18:52
  SPEAKER_01: But timing is one thing.
• 1:18:53
  SPEAKER_01: Grabbing that shit by the neck and being the face of a whole industry means something.
• 1:18:59
  SPEAKER_01: No, yeah.
• 1:18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Now, is Asia Wilson a better basketball player?
• 1:19:03
  SPEAKER_01: Possibly.
• 1:19:03
  SPEAKER_01: But guess what?
• 1:19:04
  SPEAKER_01: If Asia Wilson walked past me right now, no one would know her.
• 1:19:07
  SPEAKER_01: Caitlin's the face of the damn league.
• 1:19:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's not about points.
• 1:19:12
  SPEAKER_01: See, see, you guys are too focusing on stats.
• 1:19:15
  SPEAKER_01: And those are cool.
• 1:19:16
  SPEAKER_01: Those are cute.
• 1:19:18
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
• 1:19:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's not about stats.
• 1:19:19
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have no rings either.
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_02: But like you think about the converse to this.
• 1:19:23
  SPEAKER_02: Think about no, think about nobody cares.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_02: No, see, you're getting to the weeds.
• 1:19:27
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, wait, well, that's yeah, okay.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_02: Some tweeds.
• 1:19:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna bring up MJ.
• 1:19:32
  SPEAKER_02: But either way.
• 1:19:33
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, because no, no, no.
• 1:19:34
  SPEAKER_01: You're naming icons.
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_01: No, the problem is you're naming icons.
• 1:19:40
  SPEAKER_02: But she gets a lot of hate.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_02: She gets way more hate than Caitlin.
• 1:19:45
  SPEAKER_02: Angel's a big part of why the league's blown up too.
• 1:19:47
  SPEAKER_02: Don't dispute that.
• 1:19:48
  SPEAKER_02: But look at that.
• 1:19:49
  SPEAKER_02: But look at who brings the league together and who doesn't bring the league together.
• 1:19:53
  SPEAKER_02: Caitlin's image and stuff.
• 1:19:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's a hooper and all that stuff.
• 1:19:57
  SPEAKER_02: But her attitude on the court sucks.
• 1:19:59
  SPEAKER_02: She's a flopper.
• 1:20:00
  SPEAKER_02: She obviously doesn't produce, she doesn't produce the floor.
• 1:20:03
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone flops, dude.
• 1:20:04
  SPEAKER_01: This is fucking bad.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone flops.
• 1:20:06
  SPEAKER_02: You don't, you got I have a text message spread with him and Sean.
• 1:20:09
  SPEAKER_02: They be sending me little clips of LeBron flopping.
• 1:20:12
  SPEAKER_02: This is your goat.
• 1:20:13
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody flops.
• 1:20:14
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, now everybody flops.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
• 1:20:17
  SPEAKER_01: SGA is a three two-time MVP.
• 1:20:20
  SPEAKER_01: About to be a three-time MVP.
• 1:20:22
  SPEAKER_01: He literally flops, and that's okay.
• 1:20:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's part of the game.
• 1:20:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's part of the game.
• 1:20:26
  SPEAKER_02: That's all.
• 1:20:27
  SPEAKER_00: Part of the game, but you know, it's fine.
• 1:20:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna.
• 1:20:30
  SPEAKER_00: All I'm saying is I respect both of y'all opinions, but AJ, I will say this.
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_00: The fact that the issue, at least with me, I can't speak for my brother.
• 1:20:38
  SPEAKER_00: The fact that you said that's the only reason is crazy.
• 1:20:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like that just sounds so personal.
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds so funny.
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's not personal.
• 1:20:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's it it's dude, look at where we at or where we're at politically and racially and culturally in this country.
• 1:20:54
  SPEAKER_02: She represents the great white hope of for the WNBA.
• 1:20:58
  SPEAKER_02: Before it was just a league of uh rough-looking white girls and black lesbians and some pretty black chicks that you know hoop, right?
• 1:21:07
  SPEAKER_02: And now she's like this Midwest, average looking, if if that person that that's like hooping out of control.
• 1:21:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she can shoot, she does all these things.
• 1:21:18
  SPEAKER_02: She's good, she's good.
• 1:21:20
  SPEAKER_02: But she does she does not again.
• 1:21:23
  SPEAKER_02: If that if that whole thing did not happen between her and Angel Reese, she would just be whoever the fuck she is now.
• 1:21:28
  SPEAKER_02: No, now like not whoever the fuck now.
• 1:21:31
  SPEAKER_02: And it's good.
• 1:21:33
  SPEAKER_01: We was feeling you.
• 1:21:34
  SPEAKER_01: We was feeling you.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_01: I was loving me there, bro.
• 1:21:37
  SPEAKER_01: But then you say only now come on, bro.
• 1:21:39
  SPEAKER_01: And now you're just like revision history and all.
• 1:21:46
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody gives a shit.
• 1:21:47
  SPEAKER_02: She's the face of the league.
• 1:21:48
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, listen.
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_01: See, I I think I think I think I think you're trying to equate the face of the league has to be the person who wins.
• 1:21:56
  SPEAKER_02: No, it has to be the person who best represents the league.
• 1:21:59
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't I don't think that's the case.
• 1:22:01
  SPEAKER_02: Paige, Becker's, Olivia.
• 1:22:04
  SPEAKER_02: Is it nice players?
• 1:22:05
  SPEAKER_02: They're good players.
• 1:22:06
  SPEAKER_02: Dog, they all represent the league very well.
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_02: And and from an in-and-Caitlyn does it with the Barbie that does it?
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_02: Dog.
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why doesn't Caitlyn?
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_01: She crystallized.
• 1:22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Bro, hold on.
• 1:22:20
  SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna act like Angel Reese didn't savage some of her own teammates on public like national television.
• 1:22:25
  SPEAKER_00: She apologized.
• 1:22:26
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody got flaws, man.
• 1:22:27
  SPEAKER_00: She apologized.
• 1:22:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I don't know.
• 1:22:29
  SPEAKER_01: I would you explain she's the you know, I equate Caitlin, and I know I equate her to Tiger Woods in a way that she's carrying a whole Tiger Woods.
• 1:22:41
  SPEAKER_01: You hear this?
• 1:22:43
  SPEAKER_01: No one gave a shit.
• 1:22:44
  SPEAKER_01: No one no I'm talking about now.
• 1:22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Tiger Tiger's the greatest golfer ever.
• 1:22:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's got nothing to do with that.
• 1:22:49
  SPEAKER_01: He's the greatest golfer.
• 1:22:51
  SPEAKER_02: Well, but no, I mean, depending on errors, I think, yes, in modern day, he's the greatest.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_02: I think skill-wise, too.
• 1:22:57
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, skill-wise.
• 1:22:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's the greatest.
• 1:22:58
  SPEAKER_00: He's the fucking listen, he might be a terrible human, it might be uh whatever he is, as far as on that golf course, it's never like I would definitely have to argue errors because you got Phil Nicholson, you got Arnold Palm, you got some you got some goats.
• 1:23:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Jack Nicholson is great.
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Jack is great.
• 1:23:15
  SPEAKER_01: I love Jack.
• 1:23:16
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I said Phil, Jack.
• 1:23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Tiger, okay.
• 1:23:20
  SPEAKER_01: But what I'm saying is, you know, weird bias.
• 1:23:25
  SPEAKER_02: I never know.
• 1:23:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, look, look, sorry, I'm gonna go back to this MJ shit.
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_02: MJ never won the most chips and all that shit.
• 1:23:30
  SPEAKER_02: But y'all put him on this pedestal that's about like other athletes.
• 1:23:33
  SPEAKER_02: You're saying that these other athletes have all these accolades.
• 1:23:36
  SPEAKER_02: You can't all these things.
• 1:23:37
  SPEAKER_02: Don't do that, don't do that.
• 1:23:38
  SPEAKER_00: Don't do that, don't do that.
• 1:23:39
  SPEAKER_00: You always just say these guys contradicted yourself.
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_00: You just contradicted yourself.
• 1:23:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's about the quality of the chips.
• 1:23:45
  SPEAKER_00: Because there's more people that got more masters than Tiger.
• 1:23:48
  SPEAKER_00: But you said we saying go.
• 1:23:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's the quality of the chips, bruh.
• 1:23:53
  SPEAKER_02: I think the quality well, Jordan playing the weak era.
• 1:23:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's there's no quality in any of those cases.
• 1:23:58
  SPEAKER_02: You beat Clyde Drexler and fucking Charles Barkley and Dan Marley.
• 1:24:04
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:24:05
  SPEAKER_00: So we like shit on Charles Barkley now, man?
• 1:24:08
  SPEAKER_02: Is he better than Kevin Durant and Steph Curry?
• 1:24:12
  SPEAKER_02: Come on, these are the people LeBron beat in the finals.
• 1:24:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 1:24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 1:24:18
  SPEAKER_00: You're using that as a measuring stick, like Jordan lost to those people.
• 1:24:23
  SPEAKER_02: Jordan never made it to that level to lose to good people in the finals.
• 1:24:27
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, man.
• 1:24:29
  SPEAKER_00: The point you just made is LeBron got there and lost.
• 1:24:32
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, like we're talking about quality of chance.
• 1:24:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's about making making it up there.
• 1:24:36
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter.
• 1:24:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's not, you know it's not.
• 1:24:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know that's not what it's about.
• 1:24:40
  SPEAKER_01: I hundred percent I 100% agree.
• 1:24:42
  SPEAKER_01: Caitlin has taken advantage of the boom, the social media boom.
• 1:24:47
  SPEAKER_01: She came at a brilliant time.
• 1:24:48
  SPEAKER_02: No, she doesn't.
• 1:24:53
  SPEAKER_01: She's one of the biggest things.
• 1:24:54
  SPEAKER_01: The league did W actually owes her.
• 1:24:57
  SPEAKER_01: They owe her.
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 1:24:59
  SPEAKER_02: Whatever she's getting paid, she's not dashing underpinning.
• 1:25:03
  SPEAKER_02: She's not the face of the league because she doesn't really rep the league like that.
• 1:25:07
  SPEAKER_00: Brother, she's there is let me ask you a question, H.
• 1:25:10
  SPEAKER_00: Can I ask you a question?
• 1:25:12
  SPEAKER_00: Reps the league in your opinion, and what do they do to rep said league?
• 1:25:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm curious.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_00: What do who does to reps that league?
• 1:25:19
  SPEAKER_00: Whoever you think should be the face.
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because I have an idea of the face of the league.
• 1:25:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I would like to hear yours.
• 1:25:24
  SPEAKER_02: I think, and this is the way I look at it, that they, you know, in every aspect embrace like the culture of the league.
• 1:25:33
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, and I think um Caitlin is doing this now.
• 1:25:37
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you all watched that WNBA All-Star.
• 1:25:39
  SPEAKER_02: I did.
• 1:25:40
  SPEAKER_02: She she uh was very chummy with a lot of the other players.
• 1:25:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um she put that whole like sisterhood mentality out there and and articulated a few times.
• 1:25:52
  SPEAKER_02: She took pictures next to our former black president, um, which her fan base did not like.
• 1:25:58
  SPEAKER_02: So that was a good positive thing for the league.
• 1:26:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think she did a lot of good things then, and she's starting to change her tune a little bit.
• 1:26:05
  SPEAKER_02: And again, being a little more outspoken, less whiny, like when she gets these technicals and all that shit.
• 1:26:11
  SPEAKER_02: Right before All-Star Break, yo, she was she was spiraling out of dog.
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_02: Come on, crying about every call, like playing shitty old July.
• 1:26:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we were you watched it, you watched the stuff?
• 1:26:20
  SPEAKER_02: I watched it.
• 1:26:21
  SPEAKER_02: She's gotten, she's kind of gotten at that out of her head, and I think now, like her friend on the team that Sophie Cunningham is really taking advantage or taking the brunt of the scrutiny when it comes to the the politics involved in this and and letting the team play now and and all that bullshit.
• 1:26:37
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like I think she has a lot of growth to do.
• 1:26:40
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think she's as good as she could be, but also I know how she got to the position, and no, everybody's in denial of that for some reason.
• 1:26:48
  SPEAKER_02: That Angel Reese created her, but it's fine.
• 1:26:51
  unknown: It's fine.
• 1:26:53
  SPEAKER_02: You want to say, you want to say my question, though.
• 1:26:56
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what you're fucking.
• 1:26:57
  SPEAKER_02: What was your question?
• 1:26:58
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 1:26:59
  SPEAKER_00: Who's the face of the league for you?
• 1:27:00
  SPEAKER_00: You have you have Caitlyn Clark derangement syndrome for what right now he hates K Yo, he he hates Caitlin Clark.
• 1:27:06
  SPEAKER_02: I like it.
• 1:27:07
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think the WNBA has a like a face right now of a person that they could say is like this defines us.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_02: I would almost say, like, if you're talking about the culture of the league, I'd say um maybe you know, I'm an angel Reese fan, but I think that she embraces like the whole like uh you know, like the sisterhood aspect of the league, more so, uh, like her choice of endorsements, the fact that she, you know, she has her own signature shoe, she does all these things.
• 1:27:40
  SPEAKER_02: So she's she's up there as far as that, like skill wise.
• 1:27:43
  SPEAKER_02: Look, Reese Angel needs to I don't know what's going on right now, but she can't shoot for shit.
• 1:27:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how did your shot get worse over time?
• 1:27:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like that shot is so ugly.
• 1:27:52
  SPEAKER_02: So that's what you think the face of the lead should be because she got a signature shooting.
• 1:27:55
  SPEAKER_02: I just said no, no, no.
• 1:27:56
  SPEAKER_02: I think I think no no no.
• 1:27:57
  SPEAKER_02: I think that she's close to two.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_02: it as far as somebody who represents the I the um the um what is it the uh the culture of the league and the ideals that the league tries to set forward as far as sisterhood and all that stuff uh I don't really see I see a lot of great players but not a lot that are out that outspoken on social media or media in general right like besides Angel um and then you're on the opposite side you have like a Sophie Cunningham and then you have like Asia Wilson I I know she's out there but she's very outspoken no I know I'm saying I know she's I know that I know that but she doesn't appeal to the wider fan base like I think there's and there's a stigma with that you're uh hold on what you she don't do what the wider fan base she doesn't appeal to them there's no so somebody at the face of the league gotta have like a real wide fan base is what you say you have to look that you know there's with any person I said she okay you know you know anybody like that angel Reese I'm talking about who embodied I said that somebody who embodies the league's the league as a you know the culture of the league and all that which which which um what's her name doesn't but she's starting to Caitlin Clark taking pictures with your goat that you love so much who Caitlin yeah yeah yeah I ain't seen no pictures with her and Braun oh because angel be out there dissing brawn all the time yeah that shows that's that's that's somebody who I want to represent the face of the league yo it's it yo don't it shows Caitlyn's bad attitude I don't see her out here going yeah Katie shut your Apache beard ass up that's why you got to scream racism they say wait she said what what happened she nah like there was a moment there was a moment when Caitlin took a picture with Braun and Angel was like Jordan better than your ass anyway basically I'm paraphrasing yeah yeah what angel very old school she likes the 90s players so like but why did she I don't get why she because that's what she does.
• 1:29:58
  SPEAKER_00: He had a little beef with Caitlin at that time man we just I'm a man I'm a man I'm not gonna be the most invested in WNBA brother like not because it's not worth it hey it's for everyone but I know the particular audience askews away from me okay um I'm here for the Discord I love Andrew's buyou Barbie Baltimore's own I got my I got you see I got the Barbie but I'm just trying to get eight for those at home I'm just doing some inquisitive probing because I'm just like to boil down this woman's entire impact in women's sports to be she had in common bro you did you said she'd be nothing but you literally said that dog but that was that was the catalyst a few times that is the catalyst you can't not say that wasn't the catalyst not not not her being the minor collegiate athlete of all her dog her breaking Kelsey look Kelsey Plum had that record male or female highest scoring collegiate basketball yeah wasn't that Kelsey Plum before her didn't Kelsey Plum have that record before her I couldn't tell you and it's the fact that I can't tell you shows how more impactful Caitlin is with her but nobody cared about that record though but they care now brother I know I know come on Hugh like not the record after the Angel Reese beef they played one more year of eligibility and then they got no no no no no no no angel angel left the year earlier than um Caitlin didn't she no she didn't still they played with that in the tournament unless you unless you got knocked out earlier than um Iowa did bro like you won the in 2020 they won they won the chip three then the next year after LSU lost in like the elite eight I think and Iowa went to the final four bro this is like somebody saying Larry Bird wouldn't be shipped without his beef with Magic Johnson the competitive streak bro this is this is crazy rather like what did she do to you fam like but it's a lot of it's a lot of people online that just don't like Caitlin and it's it's super weird because it's like she's an incredible player she's literally an incredible player.
• 1:32:12
  SPEAKER_00: You could dislike her as a person you might think that new signature shoe I personally think man that signature shoe getting a whole lot of push from Nike's a couple other women with signature shoes look you can have all these personal opinions but like certain things we talking here like and show these like you said a wide range of appeal whether they backing her because they want to prop her up to act as an echo chamber for their red hat wearing beliefs they might legit be man how selling WNBA jersey bruh man I know dudes out here wearing two small fever jerseys now they wear Chicago sky jerseys too don't get me wrong but I'm just like yo when she goes to like when she plays the Wizards don't they have to go to MC Verizon Center because the stadium is so packed like that's that's that's she's just a special she's a special lady now like what what's that gonna look like in 10 years bro I can't tell you bro but can't tell you man they was taking charter buses to games at one point fool and now look it's hard to it's hard to split hairs because they came in at the same time they could have both had a take a titanic impact on each other career but for you to say one completely made the other yeah it's I'm not saying you wrong I just got a couple a couple asterisks to add behind that thing.
• 1:33:41
  SPEAKER_02: Shout out to both of those ladies I will say shout out to both of the people that endorse them but if you bring in politics and your racial views into it he should but you know I'm gonna correct the record real quick um Kelsey Plum held the women's record not the all time Pete Maravich did hence why I kept mentioning both genders brush that alone bro that's a monolithic reference dependent on coochie or dingling she got the most points that's Kelsey Plum is a good player too Kelsey Plum is a phenomenal beast right a hall of famer future hall yeah she's she's outperforming Caitlyn this season too you had to throw that in and we're glad you're truth but it's just like sorry it's the truth and I'm not you know what I'm saying I just gave a lot of people uh credit yeah she outperformed Kelly she uh I'm trying to find the mixed list it looks like Kelsey Plum yeah she was like just behind Pete Maravich and somebody else so she was like three or four I can't find a list that just shows men and women together pistol Pete was a bad man that was a bad man bad man yeah um we we just we just love Caitlin um so it's John Havilchak did you ever see his stats and you you ever put them side by side with Jordan?
• 1:35:14
  SPEAKER_02: You ever put them side by side bad man yo you know what you yo if you put his combined points that he created next to Jordan's 30 points a game it's pretty damn close and he won eight chips and he made as many old NBA teams so this guy was legit are you contractually obligated to spend at least five minutes of every pod on Jordan somehow no I'm just saying about LeBron numbers we just talk about numbers Jordan is he's um and by the way Jordan won his greatest quotes Republicans buy sneakers too of course they did James said that they don't do it anymore yeah this is a good this is a good segue you know they they don't they don't buy yeah the Republicans ain't buying sneakers no more because it's Jordan 6 Oreo is sitting on the shelves in the store no Republicans are buying sneakers that Republicans want to buy aka Sophie Cunningham PE's that they swore was her signature shoe that's so there there's something on that too we we gotta um correct too um there were signature hints on there so it was a true PE it wasn't just some colorway they slapped the oh no like I knew it was the pink ones I'm talking I'm talking about how people thought it was a signature shoe oh yeah it wasn't a signature just a PE so it's a regular model that they put her her sign but they did the ones that released had like her name in it and some fucking like some bullshit.
• 1:36:35
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway let's get into sneakers can we talk about sneakers because you know since we do let's segue well yeah but listen the sneakers is your guy's lane i i i we I wear avias from Walmart no I mean you I mean if you want to stick around and join the conversation that's fine uh avias going crazy at one point yo avia's yo I the new the new if you if you do side by side the new Yeezys are you by wait are you a big Yeezy fan that's what I gotta start with as a as a shooter oh as a some of his more recent antics question mark but overall yeah told me he's having a show at Capital One I'm getting tickets oh they're having a show at Capital One nah because if they were I would I would be there I wouldn't be able to we would have been there already I would have shit I'll move my whole operation down there to go to that collar drop out the bully some skips in there but I still know him what an incredible artist one of the greatest uh he's just an incredible artist we love him but his his new shoes if you match those up with the new avias they look just alike like they're just made out of the same material yeah they're uh their new uh what did I call them on social media I call them new Saconiasic balance right like uh every generic mesh running shoe but guess what like a hybrid mashup with JD Sports carrying them in swords bro they're gonna do numbers especially if they under a hundred dollar price point they out of here bro so they did they you saw they posted colorways now of these I'll put them up on the screen yeah so let me see these are the colorways make them definitely look like uh I mean they look now now they look more like a new balance or uh if they put the Balenciaga logo and sold them for 700 they being Ostrom's they give that kind of a hop that choice I fuck with these now I didn't like that brown shit that they put out it looked like doo-doo that one right there this one's fire if that comes out and it's 50 bucks and I'm in JD Sports hey I'm walking out$50 lighter in the pocket I'm gonna get every one of these to be honest with you I like I I like the way the colors pop on these I just don't the whole where the fuck did it go?
• 1:38:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah I don't know it's uh I mean this isn't my style per se but yeah I mean with the colors on it and gives you those at home we're looking at the uh brand new 800 easy 800 yep which I wish he didn't name them 800 because they don't look better than the 700 but he it's the same nomenclature that he was doing with Adidas so it'll get people back in there that was following him when he was with them.
• 1:39:14
  SPEAKER_02: I want to see some kind of innovative design though like if he comes out with something cool I think that's gonna come soon.
• 1:39:21
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like if he pushes it too far it'll increase the price point where a lot of the novelty will go away because a lot of people were coping from his website when everything was$20 off the fact that it was 20 bucks.
• 1:39:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah that's his name but like my dad bought shit because it was$20.
• 1:39:36
  SPEAKER_00: Does he wear it yes he'll be every once in a while he didn't get he didn't get any of the scripted stuff like the black dogs hoodie but he got the I got all that shit.
• 1:39:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I got all that shit like my dad I think he might still have some pending orders from that era I'm last year two years ago any day now they'll come any day now I I have I think I got all my stuff and they sent me one wrong thing.
• 1:40:01
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even know because I bought I I bought like$400 worth of shit and it was like 60 items or some shit so it was a ton of stuff.
• 1:40:07
  SPEAKER_02: But um I got most I got the Sean John stuff I got the album merch.
• 1:40:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think the Sean John White Lives Matter errors when I stopped ordering but before that anytime he had a drop I was yeah my my cart was entering triple digits even though everything was$20 to give you an indication of what I ordered.
• 1:40:26
  SPEAKER_00: Or the black sweatsuit okay the green sweatsuit okay the white sweatsuit I still with this stuff sometimes I don't like none of it okay I got the grills brought right there I had to draw the line on that one on this I fuck with them.
• 1:40:43
  SPEAKER_00: I've been wearing I before I even was tempted to even like look at them on the site people were talking about the concerns of like your dental hygiene and stuff and I was like I don't wear them 247 but they come with a case like an easy case little tweezers.
• 1:41:04
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what they're for but whatever probably for hygiene technology I don't wear them though on the round regular I just wear them a couple times here.
• 1:41:13
  SPEAKER_02: I just got like little cat grills I can't do a full I'll do the full set this isn't the full this is top top and hat the violin yeah I've never had grills before it's pretty cool took a while to figure out how to put them in you know put the silicone shit on them and whatnot.
• 1:41:28
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah let's um side segue or sidetrack sorry but yeah like we were talking about last week how stews and stuff are sitting now let me take these out real quick let me let me let me talk I'll be right back ironically you say Sean Connor and he looked like jaws that's that's your favorite is it I'm back who's your favorite James Bond oh man see I grew up with Pierce I respect Sean as the OG but for a martyr for a martyr storytelling bro man I gotta give him the danger yeah man the man was he this man came out casino royale quantum solace no top like he bang up yeah the only problem I have with him is he's too like brute with it he he's not very fly you know I mean but he's he's more like I'm gonna shoot you like you know Sean Connery and they be talking to the enemy and shit like they'd be it's like a chess move and and Daniel Craig he just pulling out it's just pause it's funny that you mention it it kind of reminds me like how it's multiple Batman like you look at Keaton you'd be like yo he's a suave billionaire and he's Batman when you look at Pattinson when he's out as Bruce Wayne anybody with two functional brain starts you're like motherfucker you Batman yo because you brood in and you big as shit and like we at this funeral and the dude got a bomb attached to him that says for the Batman everyone else logically is running in fear and you walking towards it but you don't know how to be Bruce Wayne and like Daniel Craig did not know how to be Bond he knew how to be 007 real weird yeah yeah he's all like this man with with this six foot frame buff suit that you can't hope to afford with that Daniel Craig puckered in lip walk in like oh so you you a spy what do you mean yeah you yeah he hadn't he had no blended inability you're chasing down Africans that do parkour as a white man oh yeah you a spy fam yeah anyway yo I'm I'm gonna step off I'ma step off yo okay cool thank you for well at stake bro this has been real yo I love this this is super great um we figured some things out um that Clayton Clark is the real landmark of the NBA in the icon of the NBA and if you don't want to I don't even know who Kelsey Plum is okay I don't know who AJ Wilson is but if if if Andrew Reese I saw walk into the mailbox I'm gonna be like I mean if Caitlyn Clark I'd be like oh my god that's Cece that's Cece we're gonna get you hit that we're gonna get you at the Asia we're gonna get you we're gonna get you some Asia tunes we're gonna get you brought fellas y'all be good love you guys peace brother