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#316: FInal Destination 2 (2003) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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Only new life can defeat death. Welcome to What's Your least
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Favorite Scary Movie? The podcast where we talk about
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the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd and all of our
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favorite. And least favorite?
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Scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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movie rightfully has its fan base.
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If we don't always get it, my name's Travis.
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My name's Jessie. And welcome, everybody.
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We're bringing it back to our franchise coverage for this week
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of the month. And I mean, there's no Christmas
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movie this week, but it's OK, we've got final.
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Destination is like a gift of its own, yeah.
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Final destination too. It's it's a fun one.
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So I think that it's OK for us to make this exception this one
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time. Yeah, I I would think so.
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Yeah. So that's what we're going to be
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talking about today on the show. But before we get into anything,
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do you have? Anything to?
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New people don't even know what the hell I was about to ask, so
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all right, no. I don't have any announcements.
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Final destination too is your entrance to the the show, then
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welcome. So no announcements?
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Do we have a poll? No, we don't have polls either.
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It's listen, it's that time of year, traveling's happening, vet
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appointments are happening. I wasn't even going to bring it
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on just because I don't want to, like, admit that I haven't done
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a poll. Like it's just kind of where
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we're at right now. It's where we're at.
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Yeah. I'm sorry, guys.
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You know, anybody that's into that stuff.
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I mean, it's just like a lot of shit happening.
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And yeah, that's all it is really.
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We've just been very busy, so some things can't keep on top of
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social media all the time, unfortunately.
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Yeah, it happens. Yeah.
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Anyway, that's fine, because that means that we can get
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straight into Final Destination. Yeah, that's true.
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And I'm ready to do it if you are.
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Let's do it, OK? So Final Destination 2 released
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January 31st, 2003. We watched it on our DVD, but if
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you would like to watch it, you can watch it on HBO.
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Our DVD signed by Devin Sawa. Signed by Devin Sawa.
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He signed all four of the four pack.
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That's right, we got the four pack signed.
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We didn't say can you just sign the one movie that you're in?
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Can you sign the movie that you're in?
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Also the movie where it's revealed where you died by a
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brick to the head falling. To be fair, he did try and only
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sign in the final destination part and we were like you're
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Devin Sawa, you can sign wherever you want on the.
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Get a little bit into just because like we see your dead
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body in a Polaroid picture and you die in a very embarrassing
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manner. So like, you know, it's worth at
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least. Yeah, there are more
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embarrassing ways than a brick to the head it.
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Could be like one of the A's from the Sawa.
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That's all I need on the final destination two-part.
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But I mean, come on, man, He gets like a really bad death in
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the whole franchise. Like it's off screen.
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It fucking sucks. There's like a little bit about
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that I'll get into here in the fun facts, but you can also rent
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it on Amazon, YouTube, you know, all those places like that, you
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know? What do you mean all those
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places like that? Part of your job is to get
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together where to watch it. YouTube, Amazon Fandango at
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home. Thank you.
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Yes, you know those places like that where you rent movies, You
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know, like all Apple TV. Well, it's not available on all
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the rental places. Yeah, places you can rent
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things. I don't know, like I mean it is
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it is that that type of thing Moving on, moving on you.
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Stream it, You know, the places where you stream things.
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Yeah, exactly. Rent it.
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The places where you rent things, you know.
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Is the place where you watch stuff?
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Yeah. OK.
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All right. Written by Jay Mackie.
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Gruber, Eric Breasts with story and characters.
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Also by Jeffrey Reddick. OK, hey there.
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Hey, slight Christmas connection if that if one of the writers
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last name is Gruber. Gruber.
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As in Hans. Gruber, you're right.
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Hey, we're back, baby. We're back to a Christmas movie
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here. David R Ellis directed music by
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Shirley Walker. Special effects makeup by WTC
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Productions and also special effects by Digital Dimension.
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Starring AJ Cook as Kimberly Corman, Allie Water as Clear
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Rivers, Michael Lands as Thomas Burke, David Pat Cow as Evan
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Lewis, James Kirk as Tim Carpenter, Linda Boy, There's
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Nora Carpenter, Keegan Connor Tracy as Cat, Jonathan Cherry as
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Rory Terrence, TC Carson as Eugene Dicks, Justina Machado as
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Isabella Hudson and Tony Todd as Bloodworth.
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And Noah Fish as the Yeah. The kid explodes at the.
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End. Yeah, I think that's his last
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name. It's Noah something.
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Maybe fish? I don't know, I don't know.
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We do not care what you did, Carlisle.
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Yeah, OK, time for her favorite game on the show budget.
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Or budgeted. Jesse kind of spoiled this one
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last week because she picked this as one of her comparison
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movies for Dead End. So Jesse, do you remember?
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Do you have a memory of one week?
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Do you remember what the budget of Final Destination 2 is?
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I forgot that I even did it last week.
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You did? Yep, that's what happened.
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We talked about it already. If you listen last week, you
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know the answer. Or if you're like Jesse and
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cannot remember. Listen, it's done.
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We're done with dead end. It's out of my head.
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I only have so much stories. We've already forgotten we
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watched it again. At this point, we no longer
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remember that movie. That's just kind of how that
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movie works on you. Talia is not really happy with
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how things are. Progressing so mad right now.
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OK, Talia, we hear you. OK.
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So no guess, no guess. You're just going to leave it
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at, I don't think. It was a budget.
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OK. Yeah, it's budget.
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It's $26 million to make this movie.
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I did not remember that much. Opening Box Office 16,000,000
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Worldwide gross 90 Million IMDb 6.2 out of 10.
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OK. All right.
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So I have three other movies from 2003 to compare it to.
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Is one of them dead end? No, I didn't want to do that.
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I thought it was. 1. Of the funny my like one of the
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things like movies we talked about last week.
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It could have been. I could have done that, but I
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felt like that. It would have been funny, but it
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also would have been. Reached that level of camping
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stupid on this show yet? I don't know, that's for the
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people to decide. I you know, like I was at least
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tempted to do that but I decided not.
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I'll I'll get 3 fresh movies. I do have what I think is like a
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fitting theme. OK, so I have movie titles here
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that kind of fit some of the deaths that happened in this.
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Movie. OK, OK.
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Yeah, so the very first one into the mirror, because little Tim
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has that little slab of glass just fall right onto him.
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Come on. I mean, that's pretty good right
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there. Yeah, Little.
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Tim Littleton. He is big Tim by casting, but by
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writing he is a little Tim. He is a child, like a baby boy.
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OK, you say by writing, yet the dentist specifically asks if his
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mom knows he's smoking. I feel like they had to like,
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improvise that. Oh boy.
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OK, fine, Tiny Tim. Again.
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Back to Christmas. Back to Christmas, Tiny Tim.
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OK, Tiny Tim. Is Christmas, right?
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That's all over Twist. Yes.
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No. No Christmas Carol?
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Is that Christmas Carol? Tiny Tim?
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Yeah. Damn, I thought he was also
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there with Oliver trying to get some Porsche.
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Please, Sir. OK, so into the Mirror Release
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August 14th, 2000 Three $3 million Budget $70,000 gross
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IMDb 6.3 OK one point edge on Final Destination.
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Oh boy. All right, the second movie,
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Speed Demon. OK.
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Yeah, because, you know, a lot of people speeding on the
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freeway there, that kind of is a contributing factor to the
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deaths. I mean, they probably would have
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all died because of the logs anyways, but I think Eugene
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would have wrecked on that motorcycle with how he was
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driving. He was being a speed demon.
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I also think Cat's death ends up because, you know, they wreck
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her. Tire blows out.
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Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do
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with speed. That was just bad luck with the
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tire. I mean the the blowing out was
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worse because she was going fast like that made the crash worse.
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Yeah, I guess it's true. And the guy with the the fire
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department with the draws of life, they were too fast hitting
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the car with it. That's true too.
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Fast and too furious with it. Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, so Speed Demon came out November 11th, 2003.
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I don't have any financials. It was a straight to TV movie I
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think. OK, OK. 2.3 out of 1090.
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Wow. Cool, not not hot.
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So people people not loving speed demon I know.
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And the final movie, Red Water, because we have somebody driving
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in the water and dying and drowning.
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Yeah, that released August 17th, 2003.
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I don't have financials, but it is a 4.2 out of 10 on IMDb.
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OK, so once again, I'm, I guess I'm learning.
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We're learning together. This this coverage that Final
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Destination is a series with many tag lines.
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Yeah, because I had to take another screenshot to cover all
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of these. That was fun.
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Yeah, it is. I hope it's fun.
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Sometimes you get a little samey and boring, and I did not vet
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these before I read any of them. So we're going through this for
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the first time together. Here, you're so irresponsible.
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Yeah, that's what that's part of the fun on the show.
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I think I have fun with it. I hope others do too.
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OK, I do have the one on the poster at least, and I did vet
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this one I wrote because I wrote this one down.
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For every beginning, there is an end.
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See, that's kind of that's kind of bland right there.
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I'm going to say. Though I feel like that works
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better as like an end to the series.
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Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like that would be a great
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tagline for the 5th installment. Yeah, that would have been way
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better for the fifth one. For sure.
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Without spoiling anything. Without spoiling anything.
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If you know, you know. Yeah.
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If you don't know, now you know. And if you're waiting to know,
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then we'll be there in a couple months.
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Eventually. Yeah.
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All right. So the other tag lines, it's not
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over yet. OK, any sequel, that's fine.
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Yeah, death is like a boomerang. It keeps coming back.
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Would be cool if we had a boomerang death.
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Yeah, that would have been really cool.
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I'm, I'm still not. Like, I still have the image of
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death being tied to Tony Todd because I always, like, expected
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him to be deaf in this movie. And now that right there makes
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me envision him as the form of a boomerang.
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And it doesn't really work as well for me because of that.
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Form of a boomerang. Yeah, he's a wonder twin.
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Yeah. Yeah, even Death gets a sequel.
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That's that's a good one, yeah. That's not bad.
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That's not bad. Only one person survived the
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crash of Flight 180 in the original film, and now death is
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back to finish off the job. OK, good job whoever wrote that
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I guess. I don't know.
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That sounds like us when we're trying to come up with our new
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tagline at the end. Yeah, where we're like mentally
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exhausted, like, yeah, death is like.
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Saying words, yeah. That's a good job to do.
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That's our new tagline. OK, my.
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My brain went death is back, all right.
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There we go, if if we could sing tag lands that would be even
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better. You can't cheat death, you can't
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hide from death, but you may be able to create a rift in deaths
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design. That's the whole premise of the
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entire franchise. Yeah, you could be next.
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Could be, maybe, should be possibly short.
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Shouldn't but shant you have to follow the signs.
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Or be aware of the signs rather than follow them, I think.
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That also works because this is like a road related 1 so like
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you know, signs like are on the road are kind of like a little
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bit more like it's not the best one, but it's not the worst one
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for every beginning there's an end.
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Oh, we already did that death may be closer than it appears.
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You can't cheat death twice that.
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They already proved that. That's that.
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You can actually tagline. More speed, more horror, more
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death. I like that.
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Speedier. Better your deathier.
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Daughter, this is the most horrish movie ever.
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It's so Horry. Listen, that's the real problem
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with my Annunciation in life in general, because people say like
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what type of movies you like to watch?
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Horror. Horror movies, I like to watch.
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Horror I like to watch. Yeah, I like to watch horror
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movies. The more horror the better.
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I love horror. I'm a whore fiend.
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OK, let's do some fun facts. Tiny's him is not impressed.
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We're doing him bad today. When the first movie did so
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well, they went to Jeffrey Reddick and it's like, hey, man,
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we like money. You like money.
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He's like, yeah, I like money. So he's like, hey, let's do
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another movie together. And he was into it.
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So this time he wanted to expand the mythos further and not
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retell the story of the first one.
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So instead of just repeating events and just basically doing
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the same thing, like let's expand the universe a bit.
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So with this right here, the original director did not return
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because he had already signed on to another project.
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So instead, they hired the second unit director and the
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stunt coordinator as the director of the movie.
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OK Yeah. Devin Sawa did not return due to
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the direction of the film, script and story.
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It was not anything to do with pay, which is what was rumoured
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for some time. OK, Yeah.
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Apparently some people thought that there was just, like, some
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kind of dispute about how much she would be paid for a sequel.
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But that wasn't it. All he just didn't want.
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TO just didn't like the story that was presented.
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Yeah, which maybe that's why I would be like, well, fine, man,
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if you don't do it, we'll just kill you with a fallen brick.
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OK. Like, unless that was always
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part of the plan. Yeah, and I wonder if he was
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meant to take Clear's place, which I could see why that would
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be an issue, because that was essentially how he almost ended.
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The first one was being locked up in that cabin trying to avoid
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death at all costs. I can see that being a I don't
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want to repeat that storyline. Yeah, and I guess like after
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that happened, they did reach out to Allie Arter and she was
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really into it. So like, she didn't have a
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problem reprising her role. So that's they went with that
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direction. So that is why we get queer
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instead of Alex in this movie, which makes sense.
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Yeah. Funny thing, Mary Elizabeth
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Winstead actually did audition for a role in this movie because
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she liked the first one so much. Oh wow, so she.
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Didn't get a role in this one. But we'll talk about her next.
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Month. Next month, yeah, and the third
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one. So they shot it in Van Vancouver
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with the farm and the lake stuff being shot in New York.
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OK the underwater stuff was actually done in a lake and a in
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a tank also. So they did 2 separate like
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versions of it. However, the lake, when they did
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the underwater scenes in the lake, it was 37° waters that
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they were having to do this in and 93° on the tank that they
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had. And actually, AJ Cook and
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Michael Lance did both of their stunts for that.
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I think it's Michael Landis. That's what I thought too, but I
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also tried to look up pronunciation and I it's lands.
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I've heard Landis but. OK, Michael Landis.
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People say people's names wrong all the time though, so I could
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have heard it wrong. Anyway, let's.
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Do Michael Landis Michael Landis and AJ Cook did their own stunts
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for those scenes where they had to go underwater, which is
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actually impressive, especially since AJ Cook is terrified of
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being underwater. Apparently being stuck in a
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vehicle underwater is one of her biggest fears of all time.
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Well, and they're shooting it in an actual lake, so that's extra
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scary. Yeah.
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The tank I'd be a little less afraid of because that's more of
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a controlled. Environment.
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Yeah, a little bit more. Yeah.
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She, she took lessons with scuba divers, though, to help prepare.
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You know, I guess that helps because, like, it helps you,
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like, learn to stay calm and control your breathing whenever
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you're down there because if you start to panic and start to get
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really short of breath and that kind of really limits your time.
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Speaking of Cook, AJ Cook, Kimberly.
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She had to dye her hair brown in order to avoid confusion between
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Allie Water and her friend from the beginning of the movie.
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He was also a blonde. Which is also funny because
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Allie Lilarder was not blonde in the first movie.
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No, she. Won't means at some point while
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she is voluntarily in a psychiatric hold she.
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Dyes her hair, Yeah. Or was she dyeing her hair when
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she was out and that was her natural color when she went into
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the facility? Kabim an earlier.
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Draft. I suspect it has something to do
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around the filming of Legally Blonde.
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Oh, I forgot. She wasn't Legally Blonde, was
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that? That was around this time,
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wasn't it? Yeah.
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She had to be blonde and that then.
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Yeah. So an earlier draft of the film
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actually did have a relationship between Burke and Kim.
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Baby, baby, baby. See that's the thing that Jesse
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and I have like started to pick up now that we've been covering
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these is that like these relationships just kind of like
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go into hyperdrive between these two like 2 main characters in
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the movie, they always like seem to like become infatuated with
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each. Other it it'll be really nice in
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four and five that we just have pre established relationships.
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Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, they originally had
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that, but Landis said that they ended up scrapping it because
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his cop is or his character is a cop and they didn't necessarily
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want him to be kind of like a skeevy kind of cop or anything
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like that. They want him to be like, you
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know, not abuse his power in that situation.
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They thought it would be a little bit a little bit weird
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dynamic. Yeah, especially because she
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definitely she's even younger. She's cool.
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Yeah. I assume college.
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I assume it was meant to be like a spring break.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And he's like in his 30s at that point.
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So yeah, it's a little bit off, yeah, age wise there.
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I have always had that suspicion myself, which I mean, it makes
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sense because there are still elements of that and.
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Like she gives them a little smooch on the cheek.
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Yeah, she does. And he said that they did kind
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of leave some things open-ended. They're just in case.
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Like it gives the impression that like, hey, something can
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form after the end of this. I mean, it ends with them going
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to a BBQ. Yeah, you know, together.
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Like, I mean, it seems like something did in the budding,
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but we don't actually. I mean, it could have just been
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friendship, who knows? It could have been, yeah.
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But we do know that it was planned to be like that at
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least. So I got some information on in
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the intro with like the whole scene on the wreck.
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OK, so OK, the premonition scene, the premonition scene,
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digital dimension. The CG supervisor Jason Crosby,
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he he point I'm reading this from Wikipedia here, pointed out
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that the studio was mainly selected for the highway
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sequence after the crew realized real logs only bounced about an
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inch off the road when they dropped from a.
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Logging truck. Oh wow.
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Yeah. So this is going to be nice.
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Anybody that gets behind a log? Truck.
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I'm going to maybe relieve some of your some of your fears here
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just a tad, but not enough for you to.
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I was going to say, half of the cars that wreck in that
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premonition scene are wrecking because they're hitting the
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logs. It's not because the logs
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bounce. All right, good news is it's not
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going to bounce off the ground and like impale the windshield
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and go right through your head. Bad news, it's still going to go
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through your torso, like it's going to like bring the engine
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through you. It's still not going to be fun,
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but at least it's not hitting the face OK?
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Die pretty. And so they were concerned about
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how they would make the shot happen, not knowing if CG would
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work. The timing was great because we
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had just finished a test shot of our CG logs bouncing on the
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freeway. We sent a tape to Vancouver and
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after seeing it, the crew was convinced that any of the logs
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could be done with CG. It began with R&D on log
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dynamics. Scripts were written to help
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manage the dynamic simulations with the real world numbers of
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for gravity, density, etcetera. The results were remarkably
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similar to their original log shot in Vancouver, a testament
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to the accuracy of the software and the data we had collected.
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However, the logs still lack the jumping through windshield's
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killer instinct we were looking for.
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By tweaking the parameters, we coax the logs into a much
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livelier role. OK, so yeah, it's not, it's not
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realistic for them to be bouncing like that, but they,
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you know, they they fucked with like physics in that scene right
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there just to get so they had. Some some metaphysical fuckery.
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However, oh boy, there were no, I mean they, they did CG the
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logs, but everything else in that scene was shot with like
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real shit. They did not do CG cars, they
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did not do CG bodies. They did the live cast of all
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the actors. So when we are seeing those cars
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wreck everything like that, that is all legitimate.
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OK. Which is I thought pretty
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interesting that they did most of that without any CG because
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that is like a shit show of a scene.
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So which I guess it helps to have the sun guy as a director
20:33
cuz he can probably like, yeah, visualize that type of thing a
20:36
lot better than, you know, some people would since that's kind
20:38
of his area of expertise. Yeah, I can see that, yeah.
20:41
But yeah, that's it for my fun facts.
20:42
OK, yeah, so we've got that out of the way now.
20:46
So we're gonna talk about what we liked and don't like and all
20:48
that jazz, and that means you kick it off, Jesse.
20:51
So what do you like about this one?
20:53
I do like that this feels a lot expanded, like it feels much
20:58
more like it brings it out into the world more, and it really
21:02
takes into account those rippling consequences.
21:06
And I especially think it's really poignant.
21:09
You know, how they were all impacted by Flight 180 in some
21:13
way, shape or form. And it would have.
21:15
They're all being targeted because they would have been
21:20
targeted. They would have been, yeah.
21:22
Yeah, I really like that. I like that they still weaved it
21:25
with the first one and like made it a ripple effect from the
21:28
events of that one because that's the thing that kind of
21:29
gets lost in the shovel with these other movies.
21:31
Yes, exactly. I think the next two movies
21:34
especially kind of really lose that sense of connection to to
21:38
the Flight 180. Which they they did want to make
21:41
this one feel stand alone, but then again they also brought
21:44
like returning cast members and stuff so.
21:46
Yeah, yeah. This is one that you can watch
21:48
on its own. You don't have to have seen the
21:50
first one. Yeah, you get all of the
21:52
background that you need for it, and I think that's fine and it
21:56
stands alone on its own movie. But if you have seen the first
21:58
one, it really does expand upon that.
22:01
The reverse death thing is still a little confusing to me, like
22:05
why it's going in the reverse order but.
22:07
Yeah, cuz that's another thing like these first two movies that
22:09
kind of do things that they just kind of no longer do.
22:11
So like it's death just trying to tie up with sins.
22:14
So it's like OK, fuck it. Like if I'm working that way it
22:16
doesn't work. So I'm gonna start from the end
22:18
and go that way. Like, I don't know.
22:21
So when we covered Saw, we talked a lot about how they
22:24
managed to maintain that continuity, mostly because they,
22:27
even when they threw in hints of like this, this moment happened.
22:32
But we didn't, you know, like Amanda gets that letter.
22:34
We don't know what the letter says until several movies later,
22:36
and the writers didn't know what the letter said until several
22:39
movies later. It's like they wrote a thing
22:41
that was consequential to the script without writing
22:43
themselves into a corner with it.
22:46
So that's how the Saw movies were able to maintain some of
22:49
that continuity. Yeah, I think Final Destination
22:51
doesn't do quite as good a job about it because it's gonna keep
22:54
introducing these death rules. That just makes it harder to do
22:58
sequels. Yeah, that's true.
23:00
Yeah. But I think overall this one is
23:02
probably I'm I'm really curious how I'm gonna feel about ranking
23:06
these in a few months and we're putting them all in order.
23:09
It's. Gonna be tough.
23:10
But I think this is one of the better written of the of the
23:15
Final Destination movies. Yeah, I agree.
23:19
So, and I think I, I think it's interesting having a bigger cast
23:24
and them not having a connection to each other the way everybody
23:27
did in the first one. Yeah.
23:29
And they're all more adult, so they have a little bit more
23:32
agency than they did in the first one.
23:34
I think it it it's it was a good shift into dynamics.
23:37
Yeah, You know, it's that's the thing that I've kind of realized
23:40
with this because I know it started off, the first one
23:43
started off as like a teen screen.
23:44
Like they changed the characters in the teens from adults, but
23:48
we've never really gotten like adult adults being other than
23:53
maybe the newest one that has a few characters like that.
23:57
But even then that our like it's.
23:58
Only like a result of like a certain situation like it, yeah,
24:02
the premonitions never really come to anybody that is like
24:05
older. Yeah, it's always young adult
24:07
aged, so like. 20s. At yeah, at the oldest, yeah,
24:12
always like high school, college age, so or very or like
24:15
internship age. Yeah, yeah.
24:17
So yeah, it's weird. What did you think was good?
24:20
I liked how I feel like a lot of the things were more relatable
24:25
this time, like it touched a more relatable base of people
24:30
with the deaths this time. Around This is what people think
24:34
of when they think of Final Destination.
24:36
What screwed you up for life? The the log truck.
24:39
I'm already terrified of planes, but yeah, planes are like
24:45
they're less common of like a. An experience.
24:47
Yeah, exactly. Like I I've never flown before
24:49
and I feel like that's pretty common for a lot of people.
24:51
But being on the road is something that a lot of people
24:54
experience everyday. It's a lot more difficult to not
24:56
experience that. Like even if you don't own a
24:58
vehicle, like you're on a bus or something, you take like public
25:00
transportation. It's it's something that is more
25:03
there and it's like it's more grounded and more just relatable
25:08
to people, I think, especially me.
25:10
So yeah, I think it has the best opening in the entire franchise
25:13
for sure. I love the characters in this
25:15
movie. I feel like they're all really
25:17
interesting. Well, most of them are.
25:20
I think it's just mostly like some of the like the the
25:23
secondary characters like Rory, like Jonathan Cherry's character
25:26
especially really shine for me. Yeah, and we've talked about
25:30
Jonathan Cherry before. He was consistently one of our
25:33
favorite parts of the Wolf Cop movies.
25:35
Yeah, Wolf cop. That's that's he's really fun.
25:38
He's I mean, that's kind of his whole thing is he's basically
25:40
like a comedic relief guy. I've never seen him in anything
25:43
that's been serious, but he does it so well.
25:45
And like he was their favorite character to write in this
25:47
movie, according to to them. And he also like made every
25:50
scene better just based off of his delivery.
25:52
He would always like punch up the scenes and stuff like that
25:54
too. So like, you know, it's just a
25:56
lot of fun. I I like that.
26:00
Let's see, what else. Do we want to go to the bed?
26:03
Yeah, I guess I just go on to the bed, you know that.
26:05
I mean, there's not much else good to say about this one.
26:07
It's just like, it's just, it's fun.
26:10
Like I, I like it, you know, like I feel like they did a
26:12
really good job of expanding on the first one, like you said.
26:15
I think for me, what's really hard is the the writing with
26:20
Nora and Tim is so all over the fucking place.
26:24
Yeah, they're. Confusing.
26:25
So distractingly bad. Tiny Tim, Like seriously, Like,
26:29
I mean, didn't we look into this one time?
26:31
Like wasn't he supposed to be a younger character?
26:33
I do. I think we, I think I remember
26:35
you did a dive on this once before because we were both
26:37
like, we were both so confused after like watching this movie
26:40
so many times. Yeah, it's so confusing because
26:42
like, like the way he is in the car, like he's banging on.
26:46
Yeah. Like he's using empty water
26:47
bottles. Like that's his whole shit too,
26:49
OK Yeah, but like it's the way he's doing it.
26:53
OK. And it like it doesn't help that
26:56
it comes right after we see another small child in the front
26:58
seat of a car playing with the toy cars.
27:00
Yeah, Yeah. And then he's got his dentist
27:03
appointment and it looks like he's almost in a kids dentist
27:06
office because of the decorations and stuff that are
27:09
going on. And then the the chasing of the
27:14
pigeons, like all of that feels very coded for like a child.
27:18
Yeah, like 9-10 years old. But then we've got moments where
27:22
like the dentist asks if he's been smoking and he makes that
27:28
joke to his mom, like completely out of pocket where he's like,
27:31
if he gives me the gas and I wake up with my pants on button,
27:34
we ain't paying. She's like, she said.
27:36
That's so funny, Tim. Oh my God, he's going to be a
27:38
comedian. She's so caught off guard by it
27:41
because it's like, where did that come from?
27:43
Like I feel like they're trying to make him have like an edgy
27:46
sense of humor and maybe they were trying to age up some of
27:48
the dialogue for him. I don't know.
27:51
It is so confusing and Tim and Nora consistently make me the
27:56
most uncomfortable in this movie.
27:58
They're and they're not even really in it that long either.
28:02
I'm trying to find it right here to see if there's anything that
28:05
said anything. I swear to God I feel like we we
28:08
looked that up. And like he's reading Bag of
28:10
Bones by Stephen King. So it's like an older, but you
28:14
know what I mean? Like it's just, it's so
28:17
confusing. I can't find anything exactly
28:19
but I swear we we figured out that like he.
28:23
Would I don't know if we actually looked it up or if we
28:25
just assume that that's what's happened because we've seen that
28:27
happen in other shows and movies before where they have it
28:29
written for a younger actor or younger.
28:32
Character. I just found it.
28:33
The character of Tim was supposed to be 9 and then 13,
28:37
but New Line Cinema decided it wasn't OK to kill off a little
28:40
kid, so they eventually settled on the age of 15.
28:43
That kids, there's no way that kid is 15 even even.
28:48
Yeah, see, that's the thing. They they leftover some of the
28:51
stuff as like a child, but then they're like, we'll punch up.
28:54
Like let's make him like talk like a 15 year old.
28:56
It's weird. Yeah.
28:58
It's it's very unbalanced. Yeah, it does kind of throw some
29:02
stuff off a little bit for sure. Is that really your only bad?
29:05
That's my biggest bad of it all. And I think it's funny because
29:09
Final Destination will get over not wanting to kill children.
29:11
Oh yeah, they will. They will get over it.
29:14
But yes, they will. OK.
29:16
So I, I guess mine, I, I OK. I just don't think Kim is like a
29:24
strong weeding person. And I think I figured out why,
29:27
because, like, wait, I'm just gonna like, peek behind the
29:30
curtains. Jesse and I kind of already
29:31
talked about this. Yeah, we're re recording some
29:33
stuff. This had our recording got.
29:35
Fucked up for a second there. So we already kind of talked
29:37
about this, but as we were talking, I think I figured out
29:39
why she's kind of weak. So she's a little bit more
29:43
forgettable as one of the main characters that has
29:45
premonitions, I think because Claire Rivers comes in to steal
29:48
the show from her in this movie. I think there's part of the
29:51
Claire Rivers energy because she is like, you know, somebody that
29:55
understands the death's design thing.
29:56
And Ally Larder is just a very magnetic performer also.
29:59
Yeah, but there's also, we get so little of like a
30:06
characterization for her because this is something that I see
30:09
people talk about online a lot, is they don't understand why
30:12
she's friends with those three people in the car that she's
30:15
with because they give no. In this one, Kimberly, her
30:18
friends that are in the car with her, a lot of people don't
30:22
really understand why they're all friends because those three
30:26
people don't seem to mesh with Kimberly, which of course she
30:29
would have a major personality shift after such a huge event.
30:31
We're getting to see her in her natural.
30:34
State yeah, we're not seeing her joke around and laugh with her
30:36
friends before she gets the premonition.
30:38
Like, you know, think about the first movie we see Devin Sawa
30:41
and TO single D they go bubby dumps Yeah, like.
30:46
That guy you did not like is talking about group poops.
30:49
Without her, she's like, if anybody's group pooping, it's me
30:53
and anybody else. Her and Obie.
30:55
In the backyard. Obie's the neighbor dog.
30:59
Obie's the neighbor. No, it it just, we don't get
31:04
that sense of who she is before the crash.
31:06
So we don't know how much the crash has affected her other
31:09
than like, duh, people are affected by a major atrocity
31:13
like. That, yeah, I think that's a big
31:15
part of it, yeah. We don't get a good sense of her
31:17
character before everything. Goes down.
31:18
Because we just see her leaving and it basically just kind of
31:22
all starts from there. Yeah, that's definitely a part
31:25
of. So it's a combination of that.
31:26
And also I think queer taking over because like even on the
31:29
marketing queer like they put Ally Larder like front and
31:32
center. Instead of.
31:33
Kimberly, which Kimberly should be like Kimberly and Burke
31:36
should be the two leads in this. Yeah, I think Ally Larder might
31:39
be a with situation. I would.
31:41
That's how I would see it, but I guess it may be marketing they
31:44
were really trying to push. Her Oh yeah, I could definitely
31:46
see that. I mean, she and she is here for
31:48
half the movie. But yeah, it does, especially
31:53
because spoiler, maybe I'll beat this out.
32:09
Yeah. So it just it's it's just really
32:11
config because AJ Cook is a good actress.
32:13
Like I know her from Criminal Minds and she is like a
32:16
memorable character on that show.
32:18
It's just weird that this is because I consistently forget
32:21
like, Oh yeah, that's that's JJ. Yeah, see, I don't watch that
32:25
show. So yeah, it just doesn't have
32:26
that. Same.
32:27
If you are unfamiliar with that actor, she does not.
32:29
She's unremarkable in this. Yeah.
32:32
As a character, at least. Yeah.
32:33
OK, ugly stuff. I'm gonna go with drinking and
32:40
driving. Yeah.
32:42
Small children sitting in the front seat of the car, that's
32:45
not safe. They have to be bigger than that
32:47
to be safe is. That the kid with the two.
32:49
I thought we were talking about Tiny Tim for a second.
32:51
No. OK, in some iterations, it's
32:54
probably ugly because it's not only like, a size issue, but
32:58
it's also like children bones aren't.
33:02
Yeah, like they shouldn't be up front.
33:04
It's just dangerous. But they heal better.
33:06
They do. Heal.
33:07
So if that law comes at them, they might be able to recover
33:09
from that. Except the airbags are created
33:12
for a larger person. They could just, you know, have
33:15
bad things happen to them in that front seat.
33:18
I'm not 4 kids getting like by the way just to be clear.
33:23
And I guess also all of the people that are coming out of
33:28
the woodwork for Evan Lewis after he.
33:31
Went oh, man, yeah. Like I know he's he's soaking it
33:34
in at that time. I'm like dude, know that these
33:37
people are just trying to drain you.
33:39
And also like, he's still living in that shitty apartment and
33:42
he's just like buying a bunch of so like, I don't know, you and I
33:45
have talked about this. If we won a $250,000 lottery,
33:48
we're paying off our debts and we're buying our house outright.
33:51
And then because that takes off the pressure for the rest of
33:54
your life. Yeah, but The thing is, again, I
33:56
think this guy is also young. How would I have done that
33:59
whenever I was his age? I would probably would have went
34:01
out and bought myself a computer and shit too.
34:03
OK, OK, my ugly is the fucking hook guy sniffing or his hair in
34:08
the elevator That guy. Why do we?
34:11
Keep talking about movies with men sniffing women.
34:15
Yeah, stop sniffing. Stop smelling good.
34:19
That's what we say a sniffers. I don't sniffer.
34:23
You just aligned yourself with the sniffers.
34:25
I did, yeah. I don't know.
34:28
Yeah. Like, it's kind of like a weird
34:31
thing. I think it's really just this
34:32
era because rest stuff came out around this time, too.
34:35
Jessie's over there hiding her hair from me.
34:37
Yeah, I've never you. You are the one that like come,
34:40
you're like, come sniff my hair. Yeah, the one time a week when I
34:44
wash it, I'm like, smell how good it is.
34:45
And I do, and I get it. I'm just kidding people.
34:52
I do not sniff random women's hair in the elevator.
34:55
He sniffs when I consent. Yeah, yeah, I don't even ask
35:00
for. It consensual sniffing.
35:02
It just is presented to me. I'm like, OK, sure, whatever.
35:06
Absurd. That fucking cop that doesn't
35:09
know what to do with Isabella like.
35:11
Man, I feel bad. Second.
35:13
Week on the job. That like you have a woman, a
35:17
pregnant woman in custody and she starts like her water
35:19
breaks. That is a panic moment.
35:21
You know, like I understand. Where they were in a a tiny
35:24
little Township where there is apparently only one cop car.
35:28
So the cop car was in there and she's like.
35:31
I get it. And then she made him stay with
35:33
her in the delivery room, too. Yeah.
35:36
Which like we don't touch on this very much but like it's
35:39
implied that her and her partner or maybe like separating or
35:43
going through something bad because she immediately assumes
35:45
it's him that reported the van stolen.
35:48
I thought that she assumed that he stole the van.
35:52
See that's not how I took the tone.
35:55
OK either way there it seems like maybe it's not cuz she's
35:58
also not like call my husband. Yeah, that's true.
36:01
Yeah, you're right. Yeah, my absurd is why do they
36:07
have a BBQ with the family that they wrecked on their farm at
36:11
the end of the movie? Like they had just had like a
36:13
just an incident that happened months and like prior and like
36:18
there was no connection there. They bolted out of there as soon
36:20
as they found out that Hudson. Isabella.
36:24
Isabella. Yeah, was having her baby.
36:26
So they, I don't even think she, like any of those two
36:29
characters, interacted with anybody.
36:31
Rory saved little vampire's life.
36:35
Yeah. And like that was it.
36:39
Yeah. Like if somebody drove through
36:41
our neighborhood, knocked down some of our like we're not
36:45
friends with the bus driver that knocked over our mailbox like we
36:49
wanted. To be friends.
36:52
But we haven't invited him over for a BBQ, you know what I mean?
36:55
Like it is just, I don't know, maybe we're just not nice
36:58
people, but. No, it's weird.
37:00
It's weird. OK?
37:01
I'm just saying I don't understand why they had that.
37:04
They had to kill that kid. They had to kill a little
37:06
vampire at the end of the movie. That was it.
37:08
Driving me crazy. I need to look up what his last
37:11
name is. OK, well why are you looking it
37:12
up? I'll go over my other absurds so
37:15
the other one is queer. Keeps a Polaroid picture of
37:17
Alex's dead body and her. Noel Fisher.
37:21
I was close. Noel Fisher.
37:22
OK. Noah Fish.
37:23
It's Noel Fisher. Noel Fisher OK, a little vampire
37:26
from Twilight. Who does not care what Carlisle
37:30
did? Carlisle did, yeah.
37:32
OK, so again Clear keeps a Polaroid of Alex's dead body in
37:37
her cell her her room, which I think is very strange.
37:42
No thoughts. If you die before me, I'm going
37:46
to have polaroids of your dead body on.
37:47
My dead body after I got hit in the head with a brick.
37:51
Yeah. It's so embarrassing.
37:53
And I'll sniff the pictures. OK, And finally, that one scene
37:59
when we're at Burke's place for like the meeting between all the
38:03
survivors and he has like every sport.
38:05
He has every sport. He has a bowling ball on the
38:08
fucking shelf of his closet. That is so dangerous.
38:11
Man, he has a kayak, he's got all the skates.
38:15
Inline ice fishing. Rollers.
38:18
He's got fishing poles, he does all of the outdoor sports and
38:21
I'm sorry, he doesn't seem that outdoorsy.
38:24
No, I just like they were like, let's gym this tiny apartment
38:29
with all of the things that could kill you and then
38:31
apparently it's just sports that can kill you.
38:33
So sporty. What that tells me is that we're
38:36
correct in being arty folks and not sporty folks.
38:40
Yeah. OK, well what do we, what do we
38:44
rate this? Oh, this is a really solid one.
38:46
I'm going to give it a nine and a.
38:48
Half. OK.
38:49
Oh boy, it's tough. I don't want to give these all
38:52
10s. I gave the first one a 10
38:54
because it's fucking great. This one's also fucking great.
38:59
Let's do 9. OK, I'm not worried about giving
39:02
them all 10s because I know I'm not going to.
39:04
OK, 92. 59.25 to start. All right, so Kimberly's asleep
39:10
as the news is saying it's the one year anniversary tomorrow
39:13
with Flight 180. They're interviewing a guy who
39:16
speaks of Death's design. Because we're just really
39:19
hammering this thought. This guy's got it down.
39:21
He's nailed it. Yeah, he's actually speaking the
39:24
truth of, like, what Bloodworth is saying.
39:26
Like death is a force that surrounds everything and
39:28
everyone at all times. Yep.
39:30
Has a grand design, and as he's talking about it, there's a gust
39:35
of wind that wakes up Kimberly so she can catch the TV just to
39:38
listen about this a little bit. Also, there's a really spooky
39:41
spider in her bedroom. Yeah, like, we're not in the
39:44
Southwest. Why do we have a spider this
39:46
large? Yeah, it's upsetting.
39:49
I don't like it's upsetting. That's not good.
39:51
In the morning, her and her dad are loading the car.
39:54
The dad is being kind of a worrywart, which makes sense
39:57
because it's a that's a long fucking drive from New York to
40:01
Daytona new. York to Daytona, that is like,
40:04
that's like days like. You're in pricey to Daytona is
40:08
over 12 hours. It's, yeah, it's pretty close to
40:12
that, yeah. I can't imagine adding and
40:15
multiple more states to that. That's that's insane.
40:18
Her friend is there and making inappropriate sex jokes.
40:24
Yeah, she's like, it's OK, your dad's cool.
40:26
Like he doesn't seem cool with it, like.
40:28
Yeah, yeah. That's.
40:30
And also, it doesn't seem like Kimberly is comfortable with it.
40:32
Like, that's what I'm saying. Like we don't get a sense of her
40:34
personality around her friends. Yeah, we don't.
40:37
No. And as she's driving away she
40:40
her dad notices some fluid on the ground, so he checks it and
40:43
ends up being transmission fluid.
40:45
So he calls her and tells her to get it taken care of right away,
40:47
which I feel like that's a major kind of leak that your engine
40:50
will seize up. If you if you speaking to
40:53
somebody who has had transmission problems with their
40:55
car before, it fucking sucks. It's just like you need that
40:59
shit to work for you to be able to make any long trip.
41:02
I've had transmission fluid leak and that's an immediate like
41:07
loud screechy alert on my car. And I hate how our friends like
41:12
Kimberly, It's OK. The car is going to be OK.
41:14
We're going to. It's going to be OK.
41:15
Everything's going to be OK. No, it's not.
41:18
It's not like it's like you have to fix the fucking car, OK?
41:21
Like, I get it. It's not your car.
41:23
You don't give a shit. But like, come on.
41:25
This is just extra stress for Kimberly.
41:27
It actually ends up having nothing to do with her
41:29
premonition. Yeah, I know, right?
41:30
It's just like this bad shit happening to her and.
41:33
It's going to be fine anyway, because apparently her dad's
41:35
rich enough that she immediately gets a Volkswagen Beetle.
41:38
As a replacement insurance come on, her car was totaled.
41:43
Her tar was totaled. That tar got codaled.
41:47
Damn, damn, I tell you what. Anyway.
41:53
Yeah, so they're on the Interstate.
41:56
And as they're about to drive onto the Interstate, they're on
41:58
the ramp. This homeless woman comes over
42:00
and, like, kind of comes up to their windshield and just like,
42:03
her bag busts and cans go everywhere.
42:06
Her friends are kind of assholes and laugh at her.
42:08
They're on the Interstate now. They're driving.
42:10
Yeah, and Dano has some weed that he doesn't want the cops to
42:14
be aware of. We see a bus from Mount Abraham
42:18
High School and they're all chanting pile up.
42:20
I I read something. That's the school from the first
42:22
movie. Yeah, I didn't know that before.
42:26
Even if you didn't know it before, they mentioned it about
42:28
5000 times that a class from Mount Abraham High School was on
42:32
a plane and. I Who listens to the little
42:35
details of things like that? Me.
42:38
Well, for you people out there that are like me, you're welcome
42:42
for a little fun fact. Let's see, the radio plays
42:47
Highway to Hell. Isn't it ironic?
42:50
Let's see, there's a guy revving his car.
42:52
That's Evan. Kimberly's dad calls to say that
42:55
she has a transmission fluid leak.
42:58
I need to get that taken care of right away.
43:01
The cop is behind them, so she tries to change lanes because
43:06
Dano's freaking out and she almost hits a truck.
43:09
So it's bad. Dano throws a joint out the
43:13
window and it lands on Cat's windshield and catches debris on
43:16
fire. And she's like, annoyed.
43:18
And she looks over and he's just like, like, and she's just like,
43:22
I don't have time for this. OK.
43:26
So as they're driving, there's a walk truck that drives by
43:29
everybody. Well, they also drive by.
43:32
I wrote down all of the, like, ironic signs that she sees.
43:35
OK, because they also have the beer truck with the driver
43:38
drinking. Yeah, we've got the kid that's
43:40
playing with the toy trucks and making them smash each other.
43:43
Color vehicle as her and the the lock truck too.
43:48
So yeah. There's Rory snorting coke and
43:51
Foe fronting on the cop after he like passes because like he
43:55
freaks out as the cop is passing by and he's going.
43:57
To do bust me, bitch. And Jesse?
44:00
Pinkman. Yeah, the cop notices that one
44:05
of the cables has come loose on the log truck in front of them
44:08
and the cable comes loose, A chain comes loose, the logs
44:11
start falling off, and this is when we get into a chain of
44:15
different crashes. Burke's the 1st to go because
44:19
the log bounces right through his windshield and just get some
44:24
Let's see. Then I tried to.
44:25
I I. Yeah.
44:27
I was going to say, I hope you have these notes.
44:29
I had the sign notes. I had the ironic sign notes.
44:32
So after that, we see Eugene, who's trying to swerve around on
44:35
his motorcycle, and it causes him to fall off and slide into
44:38
one of the rocks. And then as that happens, his
44:41
motorcycle slides into him, pinning him, and I'm going to
44:45
assume like cutting him in. Half.
44:46
I will say though, Eugene was wearing all the like, right,
44:50
safety equipment for a motorcycle.
44:52
Yeah, I think it can't help in a situation like this.
44:54
But I know motorcycles, like it's like in some places it's
44:58
illegal to split lanes, but it's incredibly dangerous, like
45:01
especially on the Interstate. And he was driving pretty
45:04
reckless here. He just kind of like rolls his
45:07
vehicle and then he ends up getting hit by the truck.
45:10
Cat I think also hits a log and she.
45:13
Hits a log, yeah, a head on and just straight up flips over it.
45:17
Tim and Nora, they just explode. They hit I think one of the gas
45:22
tanks of one of the vehicles and then just.
45:25
Tim, does your mother know you've been drinking gasoline?
45:28
Kim and her friends and they just kind of flip.
45:30
Around. Yeah, and they're on the side
45:32
and they're watching all of this go down.
45:34
And then Kim, through the smoke comes a semi.
45:38
Well. Before that, Kim sees Evan, who
45:40
is also he kind of like got in an explosion with his car and
45:44
he's burning. He can't get his seat belt on
45:46
watch. So and as he's burning there,
45:49
that's when the truck just like comes to the flames, runs him
45:51
over and then a meet like goes like right towards Kim.
45:55
She comes to you, she's back where that woman is with her
45:58
cans by by the Interstate entrance and she tells her
46:03
friends what she just saw and she freaks out and she ends up
46:06
blocking the entrance ramp. And of course Burke, the cop, he
46:10
comes up and he's trying to talk to her and figure out what's
46:12
going on. She gets out of the car and
46:14
she's trying to explain and everybody behind is pissed,
46:18
fucking annoyed. I.
46:19
Would be too, if I were like a driver here, yeah.
46:23
I'd be upset. I wouldn't get out of my car
46:26
though. I would just be annoyed in yeah.
46:28
That's how it would be, too, especially after the cop pulled
46:31
up. Yeah.
46:32
OK, so I do have a problem with this.
46:34
OK. So with all that going on there,
46:36
we see the like so much time has passed since she merged on
46:43
there. Like we see the log truck follow
46:45
so much later from where we actually see in the premonition
46:48
in the premonition, it's kind of up there with all of them to
46:50
begin with. So that log truck like it's just
46:53
kind of like way further back after she snaps into and I just
46:59
like it just kind of causes it to like the timing of everything
47:03
is does not align. And then this is also extra
47:05
confusing because as she's out there talking to the cop and
47:08
they're trying to sort it out, he goes to call in the log truck
47:13
creating those accidents and whatnot.
47:15
And then all of a sudden we just see him run up and pull her out
47:19
of the way and the semi hits her car.
47:22
Her car isn't all the way in the road, it's blocking the
47:25
entrance. Yeah, but I think the wreck had
47:28
already started, so that might have been somebody trying to
47:30
swerve out of the way. Maybe.
47:32
That's the only way I could rationalize that.
47:35
Maybe so, yeah. She almost got killed, but Burke
47:38
intervenes and saves her life. Yeah, and her friends are?
47:42
Dead. Super dead.
47:45
So at the cop station, Kimberly is like explaining her
47:47
premonition and everybody's talking about the connection to
47:50
180 and explaining it a little bit further.
47:52
For those who don't know, Officer Burke says the only one
47:57
still alive from 180 is clear. So this is how we learned that
48:02
Alex did not survive after Paris, Tim and Nora leave
48:08
because Nora just she doesn't have time for this and
48:10
Kimberly's dad arrives to bring her home and give her her new
48:14
car. Yeah, back home, she's asked if
48:16
her mom had visions like that, too.
48:18
And I guess it. Does not run in the family.
48:20
Yeah, like that was not a very super well explored thread line.
48:26
No, it wasn't. No, like, we're just like, oh,
48:29
we need to establish that her mom's dead.
48:32
Take some notes from Hallmark movies, man.
48:34
They get that point across hard and fast and.
48:37
Yes, immediately show a family picture and then show her
48:41
staring at it sadly. 1 glistening tear down her cheek.
48:46
Whitman, Burke, be like You miss her, huh?
48:49
Yeah, or like, or like Dad being like, don't forget you need to
48:52
be home by the 13th so we can do our annual tradition of
48:56
remembering your mother's tragic passing.
48:58
Yeah, like when she got robbed, we got to be back.
49:01
You got to be home so we can remember when your mom got
49:03
robbed. That's just so fucking morbid,
49:14
man. Do you feel good about this?
49:17
Yeah, I do. Yeah, OK, So Evan Lewis, he's
49:22
going back up to his shitty apartment, but he's he's OK.
49:25
He won the lottery and he just cheated us.
49:28
He's in. Great spirit.
49:29
Did you notice in the hallway there's toys there and there's a
49:31
toy of an ambulance and a baby next to each other?
49:36
Oh. I did, yeah.
49:37
I was trying to like, you know, give us some plot points here.
49:40
Did you notice that he goes in, He's listening to these
49:43
voicemails from these thirsty hoes, and that's all gender.
49:47
I wouldn't know that the the bro is sorry like Evan, you lucky
49:51
fuck let's talk you know like they just want to hang out with
49:54
them the. Girls are trying to gold dig.
49:56
No, no, the friends they're doing bro eagle digging.
50:00
It's absolutely, it's it's all gender, OK?
50:04
It's absolutely like, yeah, let's talk, man.
50:06
Bro, you got to invest in my business idea, bro.
50:10
Dude, this absolutely was happening.
50:12
It's a shame that this didn't happen in modern times because
50:15
I'd be like, bro, I've got this new crypto.
50:18
But yeah, so he's got this going and he's like starting to cook
50:21
food. There's magnets on the side of
50:26
his fridge and it's HEYE. So it's like hey E like hey
50:31
Evan. And he like takes out some take
50:34
out from his fridge and one of the magnets falls in so it just
50:36
leaves. I had noticed that.
50:38
Before, Yeah. And then that also means that
50:40
the magnet is in his food, so he puts it in the microwave oven.
50:43
Microwaves notoriously don't like stuff like that.
50:45
So it starts to sparkle a little bit.
50:48
He doesn't notice because he's got his fancy new ring that he's
50:50
got to drop immediately down the garbage disposal.
50:52
I call shenanigans on this shitty little apartment actually
50:55
having a garbage disposal. Yeah, we've.
50:58
Had a garbage disposal in exactly one of our apartments we
51:01
lived in. Those were billed as luxury.
51:03
Yeah, you're right. So I'm a little tip, little
51:06
Travis pro tip for anybody that drops anything because Jesse has
51:09
dropped a ring down the drain before and I've.
51:12
Got pipes? You pipes exist.
51:13
You pipe at the bottom underneath your sink.
51:15
You just unscrew it. It's there.
51:16
It's not going to go go anywhere if you don't wash it away.
51:19
Yep, just just unscrew that pipe and screw it right back on.
51:22
OK, That's all you gotta do. You don't have to dig your hand
51:25
down into the sink. So he's stuck in there as the
51:30
microwave starts sparking and his oven, it's a gas oven and he
51:35
spilled oil and didn't clean it up very well.
51:37
So that's starting to create a fire.
51:40
It's a whole big issue. He is, and his music is getting
51:44
really loud and aggressive as he's feeling.
51:46
So fitting for a year like it's actually one of the songs like
51:49
that. Like it ramps up the.
51:50
Yeah, intensity. Of everything it's it's a great
51:53
moment. He's trying to like, wave away
51:55
the fire with a washcloth and what he's.
51:57
Doing 'cause I thought he was trying to, like, that was such a
51:59
stupid movement. He's just like, smacks it off of
52:02
the like, what did you think was gonna happen, man?
52:04
Yeah, we have to deprive it of oxygen.
52:06
Like, you can't do that by just doing that.
52:07
You're just giving him more air. So he eventually gets his hand
52:10
out and he gets the fire extinguisher.
52:13
Here is how you know how to use a fire extinguisher.
52:16
Use the mnemonic device Pass P pull the pin A aim S squeeze, as
52:26
in squeeze the trigger, and then S sweep, Sweep.
52:30
Yeah, that's pass. Boy, look at this.
52:33
We're we're we're given all kinds of good safety tips on
52:36
this episode today. This has become an informative.
52:38
Podcast PSA. So now you can take out that
52:44
fire while you have your ring in the sink.
52:46
Exactly. You can avoid this scenario.
52:48
Here, but the fire extinguisher is not enough, so he ends up
52:51
going out the fire escape. The ladder is a little bit stuck
52:54
and he ends up kind of falling down to the sidewalk and he
52:56
slips on his own spaghetti that he threw out the window before,
52:59
which I also call shenanigans on that spaghetti still being.
53:03
So pretty. Yeah, cuz there's congealed and
53:06
gross. Dude like pasta just out of the
53:09
fucking thing for a minute. Yeah, pasta hits air and it's
53:12
like I'm stuck together. I'm immediately deprived of all
53:15
moisture. It's.
53:16
Like a crusty old person. It's SpongeBob in that episode
53:20
of Water. Yeah, water.
53:22
You're right. Yeah.
53:24
So he falls on his back and the ladder falls right above his
53:29
head. Not enough to get him.
53:30
He breaks a. Sigh of relief.
53:31
Move his face. He doesn't.
53:34
Flinch because he's not a bitch. Are you, Finch, that mean you
53:40
love your mother-in-law? That.
53:41
Also mean you die cuz the ladder goes through the eye.
53:44
How about that rhyme right there?
53:46
Oh boy, that's right. So we see Burke.
53:50
He is doing cop research on Flight 180 death premonitions we
53:57
see. They have all of the aftermath
53:59
scenes of everybody's death, which is fucking morbid.
54:02
He's probably on rotten.com here.
54:04
Do this thing that movies do that they just hope people
54:09
aren't going to pay too much attention to, where they just
54:11
take like stills from the first movie and plug them into
54:15
newspaper articles. Like, that's something that they
54:18
would have like, there's like a shot of Alex and Todd, like at
54:21
the funeral, like. Just like they ran shot of them
54:26
on the toilet. It was like friend of Flight 180
54:30
premonitioner dies in bathroom and looks like a picture of them
54:33
at the funeral. I was like, that wasn't a
54:34
picture that was ever actually taken by anybody.
54:36
I will say that the death scenes like the death shots like those
54:39
are yeah from. What we saw, yes they are.
54:41
They are. Then we got to a montage of
54:44
everybody in their own homes from this wreck, like talking to
54:48
people and be like whoa, this is crazy.
54:49
And then the news comes on and they're like oh shit, that guy
54:52
was one of the ones that was saved in the wreck with us.
54:56
Oh no. Nora brings Tim a pill to help
55:00
him sleep. He is reading Bag of Bones by
55:03
Stephen King. Just thought it was worth a
55:06
note. I I noticed as soon as you saw
55:08
that book cover he like pulled up your phone to woke.
55:10
Up. Yeah.
55:11
I was like, I wanna, I wanna know which book it was.
55:12
Yeah, 'cause it was just, I mean, it it, I think it would
55:18
have been fun if it had been something more like The Dead
55:21
Zone. That would have been a better
55:23
book, yeah. Well, the little Tiny Tim has to
55:27
get tucked in by mommy. Here he is, Tiny Tim.
55:30
Come on man, it's a Christmas. Movie.
55:32
All right, we're talking. Tim, Tiny teenage Tim gets
55:37
tucked in. Look at that.
55:38
How's that for alliteration Right there, Tuck and tiny
55:42
teenage Tim. And then again, it's just kind
55:45
of reinforced, like, hey, this kid is way too old for this
55:48
shit. I wish he'd been in a race card
55:50
bed or something. Like a fucking crib.
55:59
Oh God, okay. Kimberly reads about Clear
56:02
online and gets directions to Stony Brook, which is where she
56:05
has checked herself into. When she gets there, she has to
56:09
relinquish anything that's potentially dangerous, and the
56:12
person bringing Kimberly in reveals that she's voluntary.
56:15
And I'm gonna go ahead and call shenanigans on this, because
56:19
what insurance does she have that's agreeing to let her stay
56:21
there indefinitely? If people could do this, people
56:24
would just be doing this to avoid homelessness, you know
56:26
what I mean? That's just like, it's not a
56:28
realistic thing. Like generally places like that
56:31
are if you're in a situation where you don't have a safer
56:34
stable housing situation to go back to where it would be so
56:37
unmanaged with your mental health issues that it would
56:43
create danger to yourself or others.
56:46
But generally, like if it's like it, it's just like going to the
56:51
ER, you get stabilized and then you go home.
56:54
Like why is this person in the ERI don't know they just want to
56:56
be here. Yeah, like.
56:57
They get they can leave whenever they want to, OK?
56:59
That's not how the ER works. There have been plenty of times
57:02
that I'm like, I'm still in incredible pain and I'm like,
57:04
yeah, but we can't do anything for you.
57:06
Bye. That sucks.
57:08
Sorry. Wow, that's really awful.
57:11
Take some ibuprofen. Damn dude.
57:14
So anyway, Clear explains that they that there's an order like
57:19
she she says, you know, Alex realized that all of the deaths
57:22
were happening in the order they would have happened on the
57:24
plane. And Kimberly was like, well,
57:25
this is weird because we're kind of going backwards because me
57:28
and my friends died last. And Clear says what she used to
57:32
do is just recognize the signs. She needs to pay attention for
57:36
anything that might seem like kind of ironic or in your face,
57:40
but she's not going to go out and help.
57:41
She's like, you know, we didn't beat anything, like you might as
57:46
well just save yourself because that's all there is going to be
57:49
after this. And Kimberly calls her a coward
57:52
so and Clear takes that seriously and rips off her
57:56
bracelet. Yeah, so we see Kim's back at
58:00
home. Burke was waiting for her.
58:01
He couldn't get in touch with her by phone, so he drove to her
58:04
house. He's like, hey, look, I've
58:05
assembled a meeting of all of the survivors.
58:07
We're going to meet in my apartment.
58:08
So, you know, just come with me and.
58:11
And he mentions that he started thinking about it more and he
58:15
was in the clean up the previous year for one of the Flight 180
58:18
survivors. Yeah, so as he's talking to her
58:21
there, she sees like a reflection of pigeons just
58:24
flying around, and they're not anywhere around.
58:26
She's like, OK, that's a sign. Pigeons, Tim.
58:28
Pigeons. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:31
Because he's next. Because yeah, it's bringing
58:34
reverse. So I'm also going to call
58:36
shenanigans on this, and I know you've got a lot more dentist
58:38
shenanigans to call, but I'm just going to go ahead and call
58:40
on this. There's no way his appointment
58:42
was already rescheduled for the very next day after missing it
58:45
the day before. Unless this dentist is not very
58:48
good and doesn't have a lot of patience.
58:50
Just you literally just talked to your mom earlier today about
58:53
how I called and got into a dentist appointment at the same.
58:55
Day. I also feel like that was a lot
58:57
of bullshit. It was bullshit, but sometimes
58:59
it just shakes out that way. Do you think Nora might be like
59:02
a nightmare mother? She seems chill.
59:06
Really. She she actually seems kind of
59:08
like a chill person. She even asked for like anxiety
59:10
medication later. You know, she may have just
59:12
checked out. No, she seems like a good mom.
59:17
I mean, like a nightmare to like doctors and whatnot.
59:19
Like you're going to get my Tim in, no?
59:21
I don't think so. I think she seems like a chill
59:23
person. I don't get any any hostile
59:26
vibes from her at all. OK, so at the dentist, he says
59:31
that really off the mark remark about the dentist, you know,
59:34
unbutting his pants potentially as he's he's not even.
59:38
See, The thing is, he's not even going in there to be like, you
59:40
know, put to sleep to like, get work done.
59:43
He does start getting the gas. He does, but that wasn't the
59:46
original intention. So like he's like, OK, if I'm in
59:48
there and this guy's drilling my teeth while I'm just numbing the
59:51
mouth and my pants are undone, like.
59:53
OK, but what if instead of him reading Bag of Bones the night
59:57
before, he's sitting watching the dentist?
1:00:01
That would kind of fit the whole.
1:00:02
Thing here make more sense. Because that the dentist has the
1:00:06
themed rooms, Yeah, kind of fits what he has here.
1:00:08
He's got some kind of fish theme in here.
1:00:12
He's got puffer fish hanging up above him.
1:00:15
Yeah, and apparently these pigeons just keep running into
1:00:18
the windows and this high rise office building and he has to
1:00:22
keep replacing the windows. I would love just like a sitcom
1:00:27
where that's a running bit. Dude.
1:00:29
Like he just has to keep getting his windows replaced.
1:00:32
That is the thing that I'm legitimately terrified of of my
1:00:34
dentist because my dentist is downtown next to like a road
1:00:38
like that is pretty decent traffic.
1:00:41
And I'm always concerned that while I'm getting my teeth
1:00:44
drilled, there's going to be some that happens out there and
1:00:47
he's going to cause him a jerk and just like, get my fucking
1:00:50
teeth. And that sounds like a good
1:00:51
moment to talk about this because the dentist is trying to
1:00:54
give him a shot to numb his mouth so he can fill in this
1:00:58
cavity. The pigeons are working his
1:01:01
nerves and he decides it's going to be safer to do the gas.
1:01:03
Would you like to talk about your less your latest experience
1:01:06
getting a shot? Yeah, so apparently I've been to
1:01:09
the dentist many times in my life.
1:01:10
I've just had problems with my teeth ever since I was a child
1:01:14
and I've that means I've been do I and I wasn't until recently
1:01:18
that I will learn that when you were getting that shot, the shot
1:01:22
is making like that little thought, that feeling that you
1:01:25
get. They're hitting bone and the
1:01:27
goal is to try and get as close to the nerve as possible when
1:01:31
you're giving the shot. Without touching them.
1:01:33
Without touching the nerve. So when we're out with the first
1:01:36
time earlier this month, this guy, my dentist, he gave me a
1:01:40
shot. I wasn't numb enough yet.
1:01:41
So he said, OK, I'll give you another.
1:01:43
One, and it's an extra complication for you because you
1:01:45
got a little bit of that red headedness that makes you less
1:01:48
sensitive to anaesthetics. Yeah, so he, he like I was still
1:01:53
numb in my jaw, but my lip wasn't numb.
1:01:55
So he's like, OK, I'm going to give you another.
1:01:57
Even though I was numb, he fucking jammed it right through
1:02:01
my nerve. And this shot of pain just went
1:02:03
down my whole jaw and out. Like it was numb, like I wasn't
1:02:06
feeling anything before. But just like, even through all
1:02:09
that, it was the most excruciating pain I've ever had
1:02:12
in a split second. And he's like, Oh yeah, I just
1:02:15
stabbed your nerve. You know, it's OK.
1:02:17
You might be numb for three hours or three days.
1:02:21
If it happens, don't worry, you're not like dying.
1:02:24
You just are going to be numb because I've stabbed your
1:02:26
fucking nerve. Dude, you sound like Sylvester
1:02:29
Stallone. For the next few hours you are
1:02:32
slurring so. Bad sucks.
1:02:34
So yeah, dentist shit. Like, again, this movie right
1:02:38
here, we're at the dentist. I like the misdirect here
1:02:40
because everybody's nervous here.
1:02:41
That's another common, relatable experience.
1:02:43
Yeah, yeah. Even though he doesn't die here,
1:02:45
I think it's still works like a suspense building mode.
1:02:48
Yeah, well, because while he's getting the gas, Nemo was trying
1:02:52
to break out of his tank in the reception here.
1:02:56
Yeah. Finding Nemo here, Yeah.
1:02:57
And the dentist goes to help Nora and the receptionist Gene,
1:03:01
like they're all capturing this pigeon that has flown into the
1:03:06
group. Yeah.
1:03:07
And the oxygen goes off in Tim's tank, so he's just getting
1:03:11
nitrogen. And then when in the puffer fish
1:03:14
falls from the mobile, which probably shouldn't be hanging
1:03:16
directly over the fucking chair, and he's choking on this toy
1:03:22
puffer fish and then Jean comes in and saves him.
1:03:25
I. Like her?
1:03:26
Look, she's just like what the fuck?
1:03:28
Yeah, yeah. And so they finish up and they
1:03:30
go outside, and as Nora and Tim are walking to wherever their
1:03:33
car is parked at Burke and Kimberly running.
1:03:37
I was saying. Pigeons.
1:03:38
Pigeons. And Tim goes fuck yeah.
1:03:41
Pigeons. He's like I'll fuck him off.
1:03:45
Hey, Carlos is dead 100%. This is the same energy that if
1:03:49
we were outside and Talia's at the other end of the yard and
1:03:52
we're like squirrels. She would go, I'm gonna get the
1:03:55
squirrels. Go running.
1:03:57
Go get the squirrels. And so then Tim gets a glass
1:04:01
windowpane dropped on. Isn't.
1:04:03
It weird. Bad.
1:04:04
Like they don't run to save him, they run and like dive and
1:04:07
tackle Nora out of the way where she's not even close.
1:04:09
And they're also creeped out by not knowing what aged him is.
1:04:13
Like what is that thing smashing?
1:04:18
Oh man, I didn't get any pigeons, thank God.
1:04:22
Man, what was that? What if they were pigeons mixed
1:04:25
in with him and then his body is cremated with pigeon dust?
1:04:29
Well, I mean, that's what happens when you try and tackle
1:04:32
pitches, man. Like you're gonna, you're gonna
1:04:35
fuck around and find out some way, somehow.
1:04:39
Oh all. Right.
1:04:40
OK. So she is stride and immediately
1:04:44
after her. She's not gonna come to the
1:04:46
meeting tonight. And Kimberly's like, why not?
1:04:48
And Brooke's, like her son, died.
1:04:51
Except she does come to the meeting.
1:04:52
She does end up coming later, yeah.
1:04:54
But yeah, Brooke's like, I mean, I get it.
1:04:59
So they they go, oh, they arrive back at Kim's house and then
1:05:03
Clear is there. How did Clear know where she
1:05:06
lived? The same way that Kimberly found
1:05:09
out where Clear was. No, that makes more sense
1:05:12
because it was a reported thing. And it shouldn't have been a
1:05:14
reported thing. That feels like a HIPAA
1:05:16
violation. That's true.
1:05:18
This all this just rubbed me the wrong way.
1:05:20
That clear is like, and I'm here like, how's it going?
1:05:22
They could have tied this in. They could have wrote her into
1:05:24
this so much better. But she suggests that they go
1:05:27
talk to Bloodworth. Yeah, and so they go and they
1:05:29
talk to him and he does his normal little like cryptic, like
1:05:35
only new life and defeat death. And then as he's doing all of
1:05:39
this, he's just like, slowly ripping Evan's nipple ring out.
1:05:44
That way he can like, and he doesn't even need to do that.
1:05:46
Cremate the body. The ring won't be left behind.
1:05:49
Dude, he savors these moments. OK, he's like doing it.
1:05:52
And nipple ring. No, you know who?
1:05:54
You know who savored the moment? The director because he kept
1:05:57
lingering on that nipple or just being Yanks.
1:05:59
It's like, damn, that's my jam. It's like Quentin Tarantino here
1:06:06
is like, I gotta get that nipple ring.
1:06:10
Man. OK, Yep.
1:06:11
OK, so we now are at. If Kimberly gets a vision of a
1:06:16
vehicle crashing into a lake, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:06:19
They remember that. There's the pregnant woman in
1:06:20
the white van, and they're like, oh, maybe that baby new life
1:06:24
should be. Burke goes to his footage, and
1:06:28
he gets the plate number from her van and then puts down an
1:06:30
APB on Isabella Hudson. So they go to their meeting.
1:06:34
Kat says that her life was just getting on track.
1:06:37
She's, like, doing good at work. She's got a steady relationship
1:06:41
that's starting up. Like, she doesn't need this
1:06:43
right now. I get a cat.
1:06:47
Yeah. And then Eugene is calling
1:06:50
bullshit on all of this. He's like, that's not how this
1:06:54
works. Like, I'm in control of my own
1:06:56
destiny. And then a kayak almost takes
1:06:58
him out. Ruins Burke's window.
1:07:00
He's not getting his deposit back because why the fuck do you
1:07:03
have a kayaking from the window in your basement?
1:07:06
He's a fazed by. This, yeah.
1:07:08
Bullshit. Listen.
1:07:09
Apparently in this part of New York, Windows just get busted
1:07:13
all the time. Yeah, I guess it's window
1:07:15
business is boom in there. God, that's what we should be
1:07:18
investing in is Windows in New York.
1:07:20
Yes, Evan. Evan should have been investing.
1:07:23
Exactly bro. Also, Kimberly's handing out
1:07:28
cell phones to everybody too. That way they can keep in touch
1:07:31
because she wants to be able to call them if she gets a
1:07:33
premonition. Yeah, well, it's kind of
1:07:35
confusing because it seems like that's Kimberly's idea, but
1:07:38
clear is like, let's just safe proof this apartment and we'll
1:07:41
all just hang out here together. Clear again is like this is my
1:07:44
chance for either a great new relationship or some friendship.
1:07:49
She keeps saying all of her friends died and I want to keep
1:07:51
saying like, clear. I'm glad you've managed to
1:07:54
rewrite this in a way that feels therapeutic to you, but those
1:07:57
people were not your friend. Yeah, baby.
1:07:59
And my best friend Saul died. Baby.
1:08:02
Love of my life. Yeah.
1:08:03
Yeah. Isabella gets pulled over and
1:08:07
she's being held in custody for the vehicle being reported as
1:08:10
stolen. And this is where she curses her
1:08:12
husband. ex-husband. We don't know person.
1:08:15
Yeah, a cat decides she's going to go out for a smoke and Nora's
1:08:18
like listen, my husband and Tim are both dead.
1:08:22
If it's my time to die too, I'm OK with that.
1:08:24
I'm just going to leave. And Eugene's like I control my
1:08:28
own life. I'm also out of here too.
1:08:30
So Eugene and Nora enter the elevator together, and they're
1:08:34
also in there with this man who has a box full of mannequin
1:08:37
hooks. I don't fully understand what
1:08:40
these are exactly. Yeah, I would say that they're
1:08:43
like prosthetic arms, but prosthetics are expensive.
1:08:46
What really matters is that Rory goes into the closet to put
1:08:50
something up, almost gets taken out with a bowling ball, and
1:08:52
then he sees shadows in the floor and he's like, the shadow
1:08:55
looks like a man with hooks. I thought it.
1:08:57
Was kind of cool that he like these other people are getting
1:08:59
these like premonition. It's not just.
1:09:01
It feels appropriate that it was Rory, too.
1:09:04
Yeah. So he they try and call her, but
1:09:08
her and Eugene are on the elevator and.
1:09:12
It still works. She.
1:09:13
Still, it still works, yeah. Like it's a man with hooks.
1:09:17
And by the way, this is when Eugene is like, notice a guy
1:09:20
sniffing. Yeah.
1:09:21
And it's like Eugene could have been a little bit better in this
1:09:24
moment and, like, spoke up. Yeah, like.
1:09:26
Hey, don't be sniffing. Stop being a creep.
1:09:28
Yeah, and Nora gets the call about the man with the hooks.
1:09:32
And as soon as she as soon as the elevator's at the floor, she
1:09:35
tries to run out. Her braid gets caught in the
1:09:37
hook. And the elevator, as we saw
1:09:40
earlier, like the safety bumper doesn't work.
1:09:42
And the landlord? Here doesn't.
1:09:44
I forgot about. We had that whole scene of going
1:09:46
up the elevator and he's like trying to get the thing off of
1:09:48
the dudes face. I.
1:09:50
I love that so much. So bizarre.
1:09:52
I didn't take a single note that whole scene because I was just
1:09:55
like, what the I? Forgot about that.
1:09:56
Yeah, He's like, dude, just let me get it for you.
1:09:58
Yeah, he's like trying to like a stranger.
1:09:59
His face, Yeah. And I, I really hope that that
1:10:02
was just all Jonathan Cherry. I do too, yeah.
1:10:04
It's funny though. It's a good like comedic relief.
1:10:07
Yeah, but like the scene was also important because the guy
1:10:09
is saying like, Oh yeah, the bumpers are broken on the
1:10:11
elevator, which. Gets stuck.
1:10:13
Yeah, yeah. Which feels like a major safety
1:10:15
violation that could probably get the landlord in a shit ton
1:10:18
of trouble. Yeah.
1:10:20
But what ends up happening is that Nora can't get all the way
1:10:24
off the elevator before it starts going back up and Clear
1:10:28
and Cat are both downstairs and they're trying to help her and
1:10:31
instead they get sprayed with her blunt they're.
1:10:33
Trying to pull her through. The way to go is to just pull
1:10:36
open the elevator doors man. Like you, that's doable.
1:10:40
Yeah, it. The whole thing, college storm,
1:10:44
you know, the elevator, the doors would get stuck all the
1:10:47
time. People would just like, fucking
1:10:48
open up the doors themselves because we had to.
1:10:50
Because the bumpers are broken in this.
1:10:52
Part of what works with that is that the elevator is supposed to
1:10:55
sense and there's something in there and it stops pushing on
1:10:57
it. OK, But anyway, they're all
1:11:00
freaked out by this. Eugene goes back into the
1:11:03
apartment. He takes Burke's gun, and he
1:11:05
shoots himself 6 times, all six of the bus, 6 times.
1:11:10
All six of the bullets are duds. And they're like, there's no way
1:11:12
that that's possible. So they decide that they're
1:11:14
gonna go because they've gotten the call that Isabella is being
1:11:18
held. So they decide that they're
1:11:19
going to go find her. So they're all riding together
1:11:22
in the car and they're sharing their own stories.
1:11:26
Like, man, this is not the first time I even cheated this.
1:11:29
So Eugene starts off, he's like, I was going to be a like AI was
1:11:33
a teacher at this place and. I got transferred and two days
1:11:37
later this kid came in and killed the teacher.
1:11:39
That would have still been me if I hadn't been transferred 2 days
1:11:42
before. And then Burke says he was
1:11:44
handling clean up from an accident with a train.
1:11:48
That was Billy. Billy and his partner had said
1:11:53
he could keep handling that and he would go deal with another.
1:11:59
Yeah, a shootout. And the partner ended up being
1:12:01
killed in that shootout. Cat missed a gas leak death in a
1:12:05
B&B that she was on because the bus she was taking to the B&B
1:12:08
was the one that was the one that hit Terry.
1:12:11
Terry Yeah. Rory was supposed to be in a
1:12:14
collapse theater in Paris, but earlier that day a sign had
1:12:19
fallen and killed a kid on the part on the sidewalk, and that
1:12:22
was Carter. I like how like he still could
1:12:24
have went, but like that, just like it was enough for the
1:12:27
laser. Damn, like that's it for the
1:12:29
day. Like that's what.
1:12:30
He might be the most empathetic person in this movie.
1:12:32
Yeah. He's like, I can't go.
1:12:34
I can't go watch this. Can't.
1:12:35
Enjoy the theater at this point, not like this, it's.
1:12:38
Not like this. He's probably tripping at that
1:12:40
moment too, so he probably started having a bad trip after.
1:12:42
That Yeah. And Eugene realizes that the
1:12:45
teacher he was pulled to replace was Valerie Luton.
1:12:48
Yeah. And then Kimberly says that she
1:12:52
was at the mall with her mom, and they were supposed to meet
1:12:54
out at the car, and she was late meeting her because she got
1:12:57
caught up watching this news of Todd's death because she was
1:13:01
sitting there. Yeah.
1:13:02
She was sitting there wondering why somebody who had just, like,
1:13:04
escaped death would kill himself.
1:13:07
And her mom was outside and got shot by a robbery gone wrong.
1:13:10
Yeah. So basically they figure that
1:13:12
death is working backwards to seal up the loose ends that were
1:13:16
left from the Flight 180, like the ripple FX.
1:13:19
Yeah, as they're talking about this, their tire blows out and
1:13:23
they end up crashing into this like farm area.
1:13:25
Nearly hitting. Isabella in the process, Who's?
1:13:28
On her way to the hospital because of the pregnancy.
1:13:31
Yeah, he wants to stop and help, and she's like, this baby's
1:13:34
coming, call somebody else. Yeah.
1:13:36
There's people here, they get the fucking vampire child there,
1:13:39
He'll be OK. Yeah, Yeah.
1:13:41
So. Eugene is hurt.
1:13:43
His longest collapsed, Yeah, and Cat is stuck in the front seat
1:13:47
because of. There's the way everything.
1:13:49
Yeah, there's like a log or. A pipe, yeah, and pipe is like
1:13:53
in the back of version almost went right through her head
1:13:56
there and. Then let's see you get yeah
1:14:01
news. Crew shows up and like they're
1:14:03
pulling in, they're driving recklessly and they almost hit
1:14:05
the kid, the kid farmer, but Rory dives and like saves.
1:14:09
Him Rory is like, what's wrong with you kid?
1:14:11
Pay attention. You could have fucking died and
1:14:13
they've just spent so much of the past 24 hours talking about
1:14:18
near death experiences and he doesn't even think about it.
1:14:22
Rory, you dumb. Dumb.
1:14:24
Yeah, Chamberly about his death and she's just because this is
1:14:29
what happens to somebody in every single one of these
1:14:31
movies. Like is my death going to be
1:14:32
embarrassing? Is it going to be bad?
1:14:34
Is it going to hurt? And she's just like, I don't.
1:14:36
He goes, hey, I'm supposed to die before you.
1:14:39
If I do, will you please go to my apartment and clear out
1:14:44
anything that would break my mom's heart and that kind?
1:14:46
Of dude that was. Bad drugs and.
1:14:49
Just get rid of it all. Yeah.
1:14:52
Also, one of the vans backed into a rock.
1:14:54
So there is now gas leaking from that, which is going down the
1:14:58
pipe all the way to Cat. She's smoking a cigarette.
1:15:01
It feels dangerous. Yeah.
1:15:03
And they're trying to do the Jaws of life to get her out
1:15:05
there. And they ram it really hard into
1:15:09
the side of the car, triggering the airbag which pushes her head
1:15:12
into the pipe, causing her to drop her cigarette, which
1:15:16
ignites the fuel that traveled down there, causing an
1:15:20
explosion. Rory back into barbed wire
1:15:23
fence. No, the fence just like launches
1:15:26
towards him. It actually sends fucking barbed
1:15:28
wire fence flying through the air.
1:15:30
It slices him. Yeah, he's chopped in.
1:15:34
Pieces yeah, it's bad it's bad so they're like well that's not
1:15:40
they have no. Reaction to that, is there a
1:15:42
mold we got to go I guess. Yeah, and the farmer's like,
1:15:44
well, you can take my truck because what is my life now?
1:15:48
You guys are going to come back for a BBQ anyway.
1:15:49
It's fine. Yeah, that's maybe that's what
1:15:53
it is. Later like when they're they're
1:15:55
just like returning his truck after a month.
1:15:56
It's. Like, all right, I'll make you a
1:15:57
deal. You can borrow my truck if you
1:15:59
come eat with me. OK, That's.
1:16:02
How we do they get to the hospital?
1:16:04
Kimberly has this vision of somebody named Collarjun choking
1:16:09
Isabella, She thinks. And first of all, Doctor
1:16:12
Collarjun is a doctor. There's some internal misogyny
1:16:15
going on with Kimberly, who's like, there's a nurse.
1:16:17
Her name's Collarjun. Isabella is in the delivery
1:16:21
room. She's trying to give her baby
1:16:22
birth and the the midwife or whatever that's hoping says that
1:16:27
the quarters wrapped around the baby's neck.
1:16:28
They need to call in collargian to help.
1:16:31
Eugene is also in a room, I'm assuming it's an ICU type of
1:16:36
situation and his vents all close up and his door locks and
1:16:40
he's losing oxygen and it's just not good.
1:16:44
I think queer also like breaks up from them to go check on him
1:16:48
while they go check on the baby being delivered.
1:16:50
Yeah, and Burke and Kimberly are trying to stop Clarajan from
1:16:54
going into the C-section. And she's like, I don't have
1:16:56
time for like, why are you guys wandering around this hall?
1:16:58
It's where it stopped. And she ends up going in, have
1:17:03
the babies, had the safe. It survives.
1:17:08
Everybody celebrates. Eugene's room starts being a
1:17:11
death trap. They're all very excited.
1:17:13
Yeah, it's like death gives them like this, like a little moment
1:17:15
of like, hey. Death been a tricky little minx
1:17:19
here. Oh, you guys got me.
1:17:21
Yeah, so they are celebrating and clear as like, I'm going to
1:17:25
go tell Eugene the good news. And because of the incredibly
1:17:29
high oxygen content in his room, she opens the door.
1:17:33
Boom. It's the Yeah, it pulls the cord
1:17:35
out, which causes a spark, which causes a massive.
1:17:39
Fucking. I think it's kind of funny
1:17:41
seeing that shot of Queer's body just in slow motion.
1:17:43
It's like, fuck you, Ali. Man, so.
1:17:52
Kim now has another vision, and she realizes it was her that
1:17:55
drove into the because she sees her hands are bloody like in.
1:17:59
Her vision there, like in the vision she's.
1:18:00
Like, OK, I'm the one that drives into the lake and then
1:18:03
she sees a news clipping on the wall there saying.
1:18:06
Drowning victim has new life. Yeah, so she's like, OK, that's
1:18:09
my way, I got to drown. So she takes an ambulance
1:18:11
outside and drives it into the nearby.
1:18:14
Lake and I want us all to talk about this, Think about this,
1:18:19
write this down in your journal, whatever notes you're taking.
1:18:23
It was not the baby being born that saved them.
1:18:25
Because Kimberly realized that Isabella was never going to die
1:18:29
in that crash, yes. Yes, yes.
1:18:30
So this baby, always part of life and death's design.
1:18:34
It's fine. Kimberly is going to go crash
1:18:37
this ambulance and she is going to actually be declared dead.
1:18:42
Stop breathing, heart. Stop speeding, heart.
1:18:45
Stops beating. That will be seen in the
1:18:47
hospital. Yes, that will be noted in her
1:18:50
medical file. An actual doctor says you died.
1:18:54
And you were revived. And you were revived.
1:18:57
Yes, that's what's going to happen here.
1:18:59
It's very important that we remember this later because some
1:19:03
people were very upset after bloodlines.
1:19:06
Yeah. So keep that in mind.
1:19:09
Keep it in mind. Keep it in mind.
1:19:10
So that's what happens. I mean, like, Burke saved her,
1:19:13
dived into the water and got her out of there.
1:19:15
And yeah, like, it's a new day. Everything.
1:19:18
Is good. We have a warm tone shift.
1:19:19
Yeah, and sunshine color grading.
1:19:21
Yeah, we've got a music cue. We're at a BBQ.
1:19:25
Fuck Kimberly's dad. He's not a survivor.
1:19:28
Dude, where is he? Yeah, he's out buying extra
1:19:31
vehicles for the next time, Kimberly.
1:19:33
'S yeah, yeah. And so for whatever reason, have
1:19:37
a barbecue and the dad is like, yeah, hey, son, like a or like,
1:19:43
did you? Didn't you tell him?
1:19:44
His name's Brian. His name's Brian, by the way.
1:19:47
I wrote. I wrote Vlad the entire time
1:19:49
because that's his Twilight name.
1:19:52
OK, well, he is. Yeah, the dad's like.
1:19:53
Brian. The dad's like, yeah, like,
1:19:55
didn't you guys hear about what happened to him?
1:19:57
He almost died when you guys were out here.
1:19:59
Some guy just like your friend just saved him a dove and got
1:20:02
him out of the way of a car. And they go BOM BOM and then
1:20:06
then the grill explodes and his arm lays on the table.
1:20:10
Right on Mama's plate. And Burke and Kimberly are like,
1:20:13
all right, we're not dealing with this mom son trauma stuff
1:20:17
again. So wouldn't Burke be in danger
1:20:22
still? No, Maybe.
1:20:26
Yeah, he's he didn't die. He's not confirmed to be a
1:20:29
survivor, that's true. Like I mean, I'm pretty sure he
1:20:33
has to die. I guess we'll have to research
1:20:36
that somewhere once we get to the later movies.
1:20:39
I just like because she broke it doesn't mean she's just saved
1:20:42
herself. Yeah, he's.
1:20:43
Still in danger here? All right, we've talked about
1:20:48
it. Yeah.
1:20:48
What's your rating? Let's make it 95.
1:20:52
Yeah, keep in mind it a 95. Yeah, I mean, I love this one.
1:20:57
It's a really, really good sequel, so I don't really have
1:21:00
much bad to say about it. Like it did a good job building
1:21:03
on the first one. It did a good job, it's fun to
1:21:05
watch. I just, I really enjoy it.
1:21:08
Yeah, the only thing I would change is like, there's not a
1:21:14
whole lot I would want to change about it.
1:21:18
I went. I went to clear up fucking Tim
1:21:21
and Nora. Yeah, clear that up, I guess.
1:21:23
But also just like the whole dynamic between Queer and Kim,
1:21:27
like, I don't know, like if you want Queer to be there, like
1:21:31
make her more of a supporting character instead of making her
1:21:35
steal the show just because she was a returning character from
1:21:37
the first one. I.
1:21:37
Think that's fair? Yeah, like if you're, if she's
1:21:41
going to be the lead maker of the lead, if she's going to be a
1:21:43
supporting character, make her be a supporting character.
1:21:44
Don't have this like weird mishmash of what we're doing
1:21:46
with this. OK, Talia, man, she was super
1:21:52
fucking playful during this. She's got a newfound energy
1:21:55
here. Loves car rides.
1:21:58
Yes. So this is.
1:21:59
This hits on some of her fears. Yeah.
1:22:02
There were no dogs in these car rides that were happening during
1:22:05
the wrecks. That's good.
1:22:06
Yeah. So I think this might be a
1:22:08
perfect 10 for Italia. I think so too, yeah.
1:22:12
Who is always ultimate warrior? Tim.
1:22:23
Why? Because Tim's doing all the shit
1:22:25
he's not supposed to be doing. He's not supposed to be chasing
1:22:27
pigeons. He's not supposed to be smoking.
1:22:30
That's true. Zoe would smoke and chase
1:22:32
pigeons if she could. Yeah, I think that.
1:22:34
Yeah, I think it's Tim, Tiny Tim all.
1:22:37
Right. Who did you relate to?
1:22:40
That's a tough one, man. I don't know.
1:22:45
I relate to Rory. I like Rory's five man.
1:22:48
I feel like I would get along with Rory.
1:22:50
He'd be my friend. I feel like I relate to Cat.
1:22:54
Yeah, just a little uptight. Like my life.
1:22:57
I don't need this in my life right now cuz I feel like that's
1:23:00
how I would react in this moment.
1:23:02
Like with the final destiny, I'd be like, I don't, I don't have
1:23:05
time for this year right now. Yeah, Yeah.
1:23:08
OK. OK.
1:23:09
All right. Now we need a new tagline.
1:23:13
Tagline. Cuz we're not doing Dream sequel
1:23:16
because this is a franchise. We're gonna be covering all of
1:23:18
them. Tagline.
1:23:21
I was trying to think of something with like, you know,
1:23:24
the road signs that are like next exit, like food, like rest
1:23:30
stop hotel. I was trying to think of
1:23:33
something along those lines but I can't quite get it there in my
1:23:37
head man. What?
1:23:43
I can't. I'm just like picturing Waze,
1:23:45
you know how like it'll be like a rack is reported up ahead.
1:23:49
Is that still here? Like, yeah, like a premonition
1:23:52
was reported ahead. Is that still here?
1:23:55
A premonition was reported. Are you still here?
1:24:00
That doesn't really work if you don't use like Waze though.
1:24:05
That's Google. Google Maps, because Google
1:24:07
bought Waze. Yeah, yeah.
1:24:09
But not everybody uses that. No, not everybody does.
1:24:11
Everybody. If you're not using Google Apps,
1:24:13
if you're using Apple Maps, you're.
1:24:16
You're lost anyway, like anywhere you're going.
1:24:18
All roads lead home. I was just about to say this is
1:24:23
you are still on the fastest route to your destination.
1:24:28
That's good. That is good.
1:24:29
Yay. Yeah, yeah.
1:24:30
All right, Cool, cool. All right.
1:24:33
Do we ever reuse? Well hey, I have another
1:24:36
question to ask. What would Dom do?
1:24:40
Domodor just driven around the crash.
1:24:42
Yeah, I mean, he wouldn't have crashed.
1:24:43
Yeah, like he like, come on, this is one of the easier ones.
1:24:46
Yeah, I get involved as a vehicle.
1:24:48
He would have just not crashed. And he?
1:24:50
And if he does crash, he like will like fly through the
1:24:53
windshield and land on the hood of a car unscathed.
1:24:55
Yeah, and if he sees the crash happening, he'll be like, well,
1:24:58
that's just collateral damage. That's what happens when you're
1:25:01
fast and furious. I mean there's literally a movie
1:25:03
where him and Jason Statham go full force into each other like
1:25:06
head on and they just are totally cool.
1:25:09
Like they are not hurt. So it's like.
1:25:11
They're bald. They're.
1:25:12
Aerodynamic. Well, yeah.
1:25:14
See, none of the people in this movie were bald.
1:25:16
That was their problem. Yeah.
1:25:17
They they they were doomed. Jonathan Cherry Way too much
1:25:20
hair. Too much hair.
1:25:21
Too much hair, he didn't stand a chance.
1:25:22
That's why I was cut into so many pieces.
1:25:24
Just like he's so weak with all the hair.
1:25:27
This. Is the opposite of Samson.
1:25:30
Yeah. All right.
1:25:32
So easy, easy, easy. OK, No, yes, we do have readers.
1:25:36
Yes. Yes.
1:25:36
OK, so I of course knew that we liked this movie, so I've got to
1:25:40
say negative review. We'll end up here.
1:25:42
OK, so this is on IMDb. It's a 3 out of 10.
1:25:47
Watch it out of curiosity only. So just worth noting this is a
1:25:50
newer review. It's in April 2020.
1:25:53
So price on my board during COVID here.
1:25:56
OK, so now we're all OK. So now we're already familiar
1:26:00
with the story and know what to expect.
1:26:02
Unfortunately, this film offers nothing new to the plot.
1:26:05
Instead, it plays like a remake of Final Destination.
1:26:07
So much so that there really was no need for this film and it
1:26:11
therefore serves to please those who haven't seen the first film.
1:26:14
The film actually follows on Final Destinations.
1:26:17
Ali Warder reprises her role of Clear Rivers.
1:26:21
Seriously, that's the character's name Hardly 20
1:26:23
minutes into the film though there are so many plot flaws.
1:26:26
I must admit the highway crash sequence is incredible, but why
1:26:30
did the random drivers at the scene also go to the police
1:26:33
station? Why were they involved?
1:26:35
And why are only a handful involved then and not everyone?
1:26:38
Kimberly blocked. They should have made it clear
1:26:42
that these people would have died in the crash had she not
1:26:44
blocked them off. Would have made a lot more sense
1:26:46
if her friends were involved. It's therefore not clear.
1:26:49
What do you mean? That those people that were
1:26:53
saved would have died like that was what the whole rec sequence
1:26:56
showed. What they're saying like not
1:26:58
everybody that was stopped was pulled in, so why was it that
1:27:00
group? That got.
1:27:01
Pulled in instead of everybody being pulled in, which I think
1:27:06
is a good point actually. It's therefore not as good or
1:27:10
effective as set up as the first film.
1:27:11
Whereas the first film was rather serious, here they added
1:27:14
humor. There honestly is some humor and
1:27:16
dialogue that doesn't belong. It completely ruined the film's
1:27:19
potential suspense. Quite a number of scenes were
1:27:21
unnecessarily comical. The first victim dies much too
1:27:24
soon after the incident, before we even got to know him.
1:27:27
The killings are more brutal and more far fetched than the first
1:27:30
film, although it can be essentially still happen in real
1:27:33
life. The acting was unfortunately
1:27:35
nothing to write home about. The makeup effects were very
1:27:38
good though. As for the film in general,
1:27:40
forgettable. Would I watch it again?
1:27:41
No. Dang, yeah, I mean.
1:27:46
Look, I think that they do make some good points about like why
1:27:49
we have like it's a weaker reason to get all the people,
1:27:52
the survivors there together. Because like I like, if that
1:27:55
happened, like realistically, would I be called to like the
1:27:59
police like, or the police headquarters or whatever to be
1:28:02
questioned because I got stopped on a exit or an entry ramp and a
1:28:06
crash happened, you know? Yeah, I don't know.
1:28:10
I've never been in that situation.
1:28:11
So I can't say if that's. I mean, I guess like they were
1:28:13
witnesses, but the cop witnesses like that right there too.
1:28:16
So like you don't need like all the other witnesses.
1:28:17
Like that guy can first hand tell you everything that
1:28:19
happened. So I don't know, it is like when
1:28:22
you think about it doesn't make much sense.
1:28:24
But if you're willing to let that go, I think that's fine.
1:28:27
You know, like whatever. OK, we got some listener
1:28:31
reviews. OK, on Instagram we have Amber,
1:28:34
who says it's been so long that I don't remember the movie, just
1:28:37
the walk truck scene. Just heck no.
1:28:39
And then she also added, I think it's worth mentioning that I
1:28:44
think the walk truck trauma in this movie is what set me up to
1:28:47
be deeply affected by the car wreck and the descent with the
1:28:50
pipes. I don't think that scene would
1:28:52
have been as impactful without this already lifelong fear By
1:28:55
that time or by the time I saw the descent.
1:28:58
Terrible. Yeah.
1:28:58
But by the time I watched it, devastating.
1:29:01
I already thought about that. But this is very similar.
1:29:03
Yeah, man. OK.
1:29:06
Yeah. So the log trucks, I mean,
1:29:09
that's just what everybody's afraid of.
1:29:10
I I too, am afraid of it when we see them.
1:29:13
I'm afraid of like any like pipe like so like a material like
1:29:17
that on a. Truck if I'm.
1:29:18
On the Interstate and word zombie on blue sky says what can
1:29:22
be said about this entry to the series.
1:29:24
A single scene that has scared people for years.
1:29:27
A very interesting look on how to survive long term and how to
1:29:30
skip your turn. Truly a cornerstone of the
1:29:32
series. I agree.
1:29:34
Yeah, I I do too. I think this is probably the
1:29:36
stand out for most people here like it.
1:29:39
I mean, again, I think it's just because it's more relatable to
1:29:41
people like I think it. Touches, and I think it sets up
1:29:44
important rules too, about like the ripple effects of things.
1:29:47
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
1:29:50
OK. That's it for the reviews.
1:29:52
OK. All right.
1:29:53
So that's it for this. One it for this next week, it's
1:29:55
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1:29:58
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1:30:24
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1:30:31
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We'll see you guys. Next week, next week, we will
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talk about Zoe. Yeah, gremlins.
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Zoe is essentially A Magua that got fed after midnight.
1:31:36
This is true. This is true.
1:31:38
It is like a true story. Yes.
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OK, I'm excited for that. All right, we'll see y'all then.
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Until then. Bye.
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Oh, we got a norm. That's sauna time.
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Oh boy. Devin Sauna.