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Ep. 774: The Hunting Dog That Wouldn't Die · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we have another emergency episode of
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  Speaker 1: the Meat Eater podcast where something happens with such significance
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  Speaker 1: that you just have to go with it.
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  Speaker 2: Live now flop.
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  Speaker 1: Dear Dad, I got a text from my beloved friend,
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  Speaker 1: Ronald F.
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  Speaker 2: Bain.
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  Speaker 1: He says, is there a time a day or two
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  Speaker 1: of the week that we could have a conversation. I
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  Speaker 1: have a story. When I tell you the story, you
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  Speaker 1: will not believe it. But it's going to take some time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm intrigued, he replies, I say, I'm intrigued. He replies,
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  Speaker 1: I would put it on a scale if Jesus was
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  Speaker 1: buried and rose again three days later. Well that and
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  Speaker 1: that story's got a lot of press.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's an old story and I don't know
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  Speaker 3: any witnesses. I don't know any witnesses to that story.
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  Speaker 1: In this one, well, this one, there's a witness that
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  Speaker 1: this story. There's a witness, and we need to find them.
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  Speaker 1: That's the objective. So if you're if you're listening or watching,
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  Speaker 1: pay special attention to this story. It's a story about
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  Speaker 1: the salvation of a dog, the resurrection of a dog,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a person, there's a person in this country
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  Speaker 1: of tremendous interest, possibly two or three people of tremendous interest,
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  Speaker 1: if we can find them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're looking for one more puzzle piece.
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  Speaker 2: But first, Oh go ahead, No, you're good.
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  Speaker 4: No, yeah, I said, we're looking for one more. I've
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  Speaker 4: got as much of the story as it could be accumulated.
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  Speaker 4: But I just wanted to figure maybe in your audience
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  Speaker 4: somebody saw something or got home and said, you won't
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  Speaker 4: believe what I saw today.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, and they're out there. We're going to find them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're hoping. We're hoping.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, but first uh meet either live the Christmas two
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  Speaker 1: are headed to the South.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we got here one second.
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  Speaker 1: Fayetteville, Arkansas has sold out, so scratch that. But we
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  Speaker 1: got December seventeenth, Birmingham, Alabama at the Lyric. December eighteen, Nashville,
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee at Marathon Music Works. December nineteenth, Memphis, Tennessee at
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  Speaker 1: Minglewood Hall. The twentieth is FAYETTEVILLEA was too late twenty first, Dallas, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: Texas Theater, December twenty second, Austin, Texas at the Paramount
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  Speaker 1: me The Latvian Lover Clay Nukeombe Brent Reeves, Doctor Randall,
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  Speaker 1: all headed out hitting the road. A lot of laughs, giveaway,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of prizes, music, very entertaining night. So get
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  Speaker 1: your girlfriend what she actually wants. There's some stupid slippers.
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  Speaker 1: Get her tickets to the Christmas Tour. Another thing, it's
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  Speaker 1: been out for a while but I haven't mentioned this yet.
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  Speaker 1: We got a new Meat Eater storm Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Stop
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  Speaker 1: in there. It's open right now. We had the opening,
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  Speaker 1: it was great, tons of people came out. It's still there.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be there in perpetuity, the Meat Eater store in Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're in that region, go check that out.
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  Speaker 1: Another thing is we got another We got another six
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  Speaker 1: pack of Meat Eater episodes season thirteen coming out in
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks on October twentieth, with no further ado.
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  Speaker 1: My special friend Ronnie Bain is gonna tell us a
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  Speaker 1: dog story.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And Ronnie, if you want to set it up with
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  Speaker 1: a little like, if you want to set it up
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  Speaker 1: with a little bit of dog history about your dogs,
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  Speaker 1: you were the first guy knew who got serious about dogs.
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  Speaker 2: I mean like really serious that would.
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  Speaker 1: Have gangs of them and be messing with them and
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  Speaker 1: experimenting with them and not just like a dog that
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  Speaker 1: you had and then that dog dies and you get
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  Speaker 1: another one. It's kind of how dog ownership generally went
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  Speaker 1: in our area.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, most people could only do one dog, and uh
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  Speaker 4: I I kind of jumped with both feet into it
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  Speaker 4: and started. You know, I got involved with a Versatle
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  Speaker 4: Dog Club. I apprenticed and became a judge and a
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  Speaker 4: senior judge for for Versalle hunting dogs. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: the first couple of dogs I had that you knew.
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  Speaker 4: I know why you got turned off by dogs. I've
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  Speaker 4: heard you talk about it before, and.
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  Speaker 1: Because we had I grew up with the world's greatest dog.
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  Speaker 3: But go on, yeah you had the Duchess. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: I had anyway along the along the line, if you
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  Speaker 4: own enough dogs, and I think I had a list
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  Speaker 4: of them somewhere. I think I've had twenty three dogs,
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  Speaker 4: and someone at my age might have, you know, six
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  Speaker 4: if they were won by.
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  Speaker 3: And I raised several litters of dogs.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, years back in two thousand and four, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: two thousand and four, I Memorial Day weekend, I was
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  Speaker 4: living in Virginia and I was still living in a
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  Speaker 4: hotel at the time, and I would take my dogs.
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  Speaker 3: I always traveled with at least a couple of dogs.
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  Speaker 4: And I had two of them out in the far
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  Speaker 4: back of a parking lot of this hotel, and I
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  Speaker 4: would let them free range so they could poop and
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  Speaker 4: pee before I put them back in the truck. And
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  Speaker 4: it was like a ritual every night. And I never
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  Speaker 4: knew there was a live entrance to this parking lot.
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  Speaker 4: And I saw a vehicle coming as it turned out
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  Speaker 4: to be a full sized delivery van, and both my
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  Speaker 4: dogs were still over this berm and I made the
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  Speaker 4: grave mistake, maybe it was the grave mistake of whistling
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  Speaker 4: form thinking I'd get them in, you know, I'd get
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  Speaker 4: them rounded up before this vehicle came toward me.
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  Speaker 3: And lo and behold, Zigen.
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  Speaker 4: Came right up across that road in front of my
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  Speaker 4: eyes and got smacked by a full size It was
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  Speaker 4: a Ford delivery van, and I estimated it to be
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  Speaker 4: maybe about thirty forty maybe forty five miles an hour.
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  Speaker 4: And I watched this happen. I watched this dog get broadsided,
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  Speaker 4: rolled underneath the truck. He was laying on his back,
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  Speaker 4: urinating on the ground, bleeding out of his mouth, and
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  Speaker 4: had I had I had a pistol or something to
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  Speaker 4: euthanize him with, I would because of what I saw
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  Speaker 4: on what I saw on the ground, it was it
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  Speaker 4: was not going to be able to make it anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Called one of the guys that worked for me. He
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  Speaker 4: came and helped me put him in the truck. He
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  Speaker 4: was about a seventy five pound dog and went to
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  Speaker 4: an all night vet that was not far away into town.
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  Speaker 4: They kept a dog till six o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 4: He was still, miraculously alive. Cracked ribs on one side
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  Speaker 4: of his body, blood in his blood around his heart, lungs, liver, spleen,
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  Speaker 4: not good. Fortunately, not broken legs, all broken ribs. And
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  Speaker 4: he ended up going to a place, a critical care
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  Speaker 4: place in Richmond, Virginia. He spent seven days there and
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  Speaker 4: I got him back and two months later, maybe two
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  Speaker 4: and a half months later, I actually ran them in
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  Speaker 4: a high level test. We didn't pass, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: because of his physical.
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  Speaker 3: Problems.
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  Speaker 4: It was just because we had a couple of little
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  Speaker 4: foupads in the test.
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  Speaker 3: Later on, and you dedicated this.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, anytime I've watched the episode that you and
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  Speaker 4: I did on Stage Grouse. I was at a state
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  Speaker 4: park in Indiana maybe ten years later and opened the
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  Speaker 4: dog that opened the kennels on my three dog kennel,
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  Speaker 4: and two of my.
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  Speaker 3: Dogs were stone cold dead.
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  Speaker 4: Turned out they got into some kind of a poison
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  Speaker 4: or a not anti freeze, but some kind of a poison.
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  Speaker 4: All I had them out in the woods the day before.
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  Speaker 4: So I've had some you know, and anybody's been in
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  Speaker 4: the long enough's had this kind of luck or lack
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  Speaker 4: of luck. These things happen to you, and you just
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  Speaker 4: you just move forward. And that's kind of one of
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  Speaker 4: the reasons there's always more dogs that.
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  Speaker 3: Have to be fed. I can't I can't stop and go.
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  Speaker 4: But so I've had a pretty good stretch now without
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  Speaker 4: anything happening until Thursday, the eighteenth of this month, I
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  Speaker 4: took off four.
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  Speaker 3: North Dakota, and I had four dogs in my truck.
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  Speaker 4: I had a small kennel in the back seat of
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  Speaker 4: my truck for my Cocker Spaniel. I have built in
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  Speaker 4: stainless steel, an aluminum dog box that each has one
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  Speaker 4: dog in it, and a transportation kennel that you can
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  Speaker 4: take in and out of a truck mounted on top
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  Speaker 4: of those dog kennels and bolted down.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm dry. I got a buff.
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  Speaker 4: I get out of the house about five thirty in
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  Speaker 4: the morning. It's dark out. I'm heading down south. I
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  Speaker 4: got to get through Indiana and Chicago and work my
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  Speaker 4: way up toward I ninety four.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ronnie's leaving West Michigan, Moskegon County, twin Town, Michigan
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  Speaker 1: right heading south down around the bottom end of Lake Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: and then you're going to head west from there.
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  Speaker 3: Right exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And I can say that what happened next is my
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  Speaker 4: fault because when I was loading everything up, probably about
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  Speaker 4: four four thirty in the morning, making a final check
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  Speaker 4: with everything. This particular dog he he kennels like if
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  Speaker 4: I point at something he kennels, it could be a
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  Speaker 4: cardboard box, he'll jump in it. And his name is Tagus.
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  Speaker 4: He's a wire haired Visula. And I opened that kennel
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  Speaker 4: door and he jumped up in there, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Closed the door.
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  Speaker 4: The door appeared to be closed, but I pull on it.
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  Speaker 4: It even has additional safety latches. But this is an
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  Speaker 4: enclosed camper like a cap.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you got like, yeah, you got a dog box
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  Speaker 1: in a topper.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, in a topper. For lack of a better that's
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  Speaker 3: a perfect description. So again, I I didn't check.
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  Speaker 4: The door looked like it was closed it obviously it wasn't. Anyway,
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  Speaker 4: I'm proceeding to go down. I stopped for a cup
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  Speaker 4: of coffee. I stop at another stop. I had to
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  Speaker 4: pick some stuff up from somebody and the phone rings.
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  Speaker 1: Now rnrow gotta throw something in here because it's reminding
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  Speaker 1: me of a Ronnie is one of the America's great
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  Speaker 1: long distance drivers, among the among the best, well among
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  Speaker 1: the best long distance drivers. Ronnie used to go, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you still use this strategy, I mean
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  Speaker 1: among the best longest I mean bad driver.
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  Speaker 2: He's not a great driver.
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  Speaker 1: But in terms of like long haul, m let's just
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  Speaker 1: drive to Florida right now and not stop. Kind of
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  Speaker 1: like driving like among America's best.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for not being a for not having a CDL
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  Speaker 4: license and driving a semi, I'd agree.
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  Speaker 1: With among the best, so serious about it. He'll pull
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  Speaker 1: in to a gas station and get a cup of
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  Speaker 1: ice and then sit there and just drop those ice
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  Speaker 1: cubes down the back of his shirt.
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  Speaker 2: That motivated.
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  Speaker 1: You just slip one slip one down the back of
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  Speaker 1: his shirt kind of and then just that motivated like
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  Speaker 1: he ain't stopping.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's that's true. I drove most of the way
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  Speaker 3: back from the Arctic Circle to Fairbanks with you.
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  Speaker 2: Against the window, well part of it.
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  Speaker 3: The other part of the time he argued about the
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  Speaker 3: nsay listening to phone calls.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so go on, sorry you stopped. You got a coffee.
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  Speaker 1: I just had to throw that in there because I
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  Speaker 1: was wondering if you got a bucket all East Tube.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a eleven mile trip.
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  Speaker 4: I'm on and I'm not I'm not pending on stopping,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm fueled up. I'm coffeed up my phone rings.
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  Speaker 4: It was about seven thirty I looked it up in
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  Speaker 4: a call log. It was seven thirty six. And the
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  Speaker 4: person who caretakes my house in Virginia is a fellow
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  Speaker 4: named Bill Bill Walters, and I was down there just
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  Speaker 4: a week before. We can have four dove hunting. And
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't usually call me in the morning. He usually
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  Speaker 4: calls me if there's a problem with the lawnmower or something.
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  Speaker 4: And I pick up the phone and I said, yeah, Bill,
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  Speaker 4: all right, and pick up I answered it on my
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  Speaker 4: dashboard and.
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  Speaker 3: I say, yeah, what's up?
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  Speaker 4: He says, Ron, I just got the strangest call from
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  Speaker 4: a California number from a woman. Now, Bill can take
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  Speaker 4: a long time to tell his story. I said, well,
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  Speaker 4: what's up? He said? She said, sir, I'm sorry to
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  Speaker 4: tell you this, but your dog was hit by a
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  Speaker 4: car on I ninety four in Virginia. And I'm taking
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  Speaker 4: it the dog. I have the dog in my car.
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  Speaker 1: Oh back up, she didn't say that. You said I
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  Speaker 1: ninety four in Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Yes, you're right. She said, your
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  Speaker 3: dog wash.
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  Speaker 4: Your dog was hit on I ninety four in Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: That's what she And this is Bill telling me what
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  Speaker 4: she told him.
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  Speaker 2: Bill's in Virginia.
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  Speaker 4: Bill's in Virginia at his kitchen table and he answers
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  Speaker 4: the phone. That's what the lady tells him. And he says, well, ma'am,
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  Speaker 4: my dog is sitting by my feet. And he said, so,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you, and she's as well,
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  Speaker 4: it has your phone number. I've got it right here.
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  Speaker 4: It has your phone number on a military type dog tag,
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  Speaker 4: but no name. I don't know if you can see that.
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  Speaker 1: Ron is presenting for you people not watching. Ron is
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  Speaker 1: presenting a dog collar exhibit, a orange dog collar, the
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  Speaker 1: dog tags and a number. Don't don't show your phone
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  Speaker 1: number you're gonna get Ronnie's buddy.
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  Speaker 2: He does want to hear from you.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't want to hear from me. So he said, well, ma'am,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you. And then she said,
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  Speaker 4: it's an orange car heart collar. This is what she's'
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  Speaker 4: this is what he's translating to me. Time I'm saying, Bill,
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  Speaker 4: well that's impossible. It's just one of those tags you
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  Speaker 4: order at the front counter and somebody's probably got the
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  Speaker 4: number wrong. He goes, yeah, but I lent you that
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  Speaker 4: collar when you were here dove hunting.
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  Speaker 3: And it hit me like a ton of bricks. I
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  Speaker 3: needed a different collar.
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  Speaker 4: The one he had on was all just getting gnarly,
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  Speaker 4: and I asked Bill if he had an extra collar.
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  Speaker 4: And the minute that hit me, I started like hyperventilating
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  Speaker 4: and or not breathing. And from seventy two I keep
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  Speaker 4: my spinometer at seventy two on cruise control, I pulled
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  Speaker 4: over like as quick as I could without locking up
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  Speaker 4: the brakes, even got into the grass. A little bit
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  Speaker 4: on the shoulder of the road. And I'm getting a
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  Speaker 4: little emotional now, and I jump out of the car
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  Speaker 4: and I open up the back hood, the back door
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  Speaker 4: like you would on any cap and there I see
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  Speaker 4: the dog kennel door open and the window, the screen
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  Speaker 4: on this sliding window halfway hanging out of the vehicle,
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  Speaker 4: and I just lose it. I mean, I'm just I
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  Speaker 4: didn't even know if. I don't know if I stood
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  Speaker 4: there for two minutes, I don't know if I was crying.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I couldn't walk. And I got right back
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  Speaker 4: in the truck and I called Bill back and I
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  Speaker 4: was I know I was crying, and I said, Bill,
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  Speaker 4: it's tag Us, It's tag Us. It's who's this lady.
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  Speaker 4: And he says, I've got the number. I gave her
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  Speaker 4: your number, and I'll send you her number. And I'm
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  Speaker 4: about at this point, I'm about two miles from the
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  Speaker 4: Indiana line, and I got to turn around and get
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  Speaker 4: an exit and go back, but I don't know where
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  Speaker 4: I'm going back to. And Steve, you know that that
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  Speaker 4: chunk of I ninety four that we come from our
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  Speaker 4: house in Twin Lake. You're only on ninety four for
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  Speaker 4: about thirty five thirty six miles or forty miles now,
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  Speaker 4: so all I know was is on nine ninety four,
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  Speaker 4: And I immediately start calling this.
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  Speaker 3: Woman's number and it goes right to voicemail.
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  Speaker 4: Write the voicemail, and I call again, and I'm yelling
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  Speaker 4: at my dashboard for this lady to answer. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know her name even yet, and I'm driving north and
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  Speaker 4: I'm thinking, I don't know where to go, so I
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  Speaker 4: just pull off the next exit because I'm like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to go all the way to Benton Harbor
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  Speaker 4: if it was in wherever.
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  Speaker 3: And finally she.
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  Speaker 4: Calls me up and I said, oh, thank god, I said,
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  Speaker 4: and I said, my name is Ron. She says, my
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  Speaker 4: name is Kristen, and she said, yeah, your dog was
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  Speaker 4: hit on nine ninety four, and I have it in
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  Speaker 4: my truck and I'm bringing it to my veterinarian in
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  Speaker 4: Barryon Springs, Michigan. And I'm right now, I'm in a
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  Speaker 4: parking lot right off the side of of the highway
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  Speaker 4: at a gas station, and I'm shaken. And I finally said,
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  Speaker 4: I said, I think. I said, I'm sure he's dead
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  Speaker 4: or how bad is it? And she said I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how to tell you this, but I was driving
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  Speaker 4: southbound on nine ninety four this morning and I saw
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  Speaker 4: what I thought was a cardboard box up ahead on
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  Speaker 4: the shoulder of the road, on the or in the
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  Speaker 4: left lane of the road. At this point, ninety four
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  Speaker 4: is three lanes wide. And Steve, have you've ever seen
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  Speaker 4: a box floating around on a road? You're afraid something's
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  Speaker 4: in it or it's gonna get stuck under your car,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 3: When you see you've seen that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yea.
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  Speaker 4: So she I don't know if she slowed down or
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  Speaker 4: she just noticed it, but she noticed it going in
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  Speaker 4: front of a semi truck, and then the semi truck
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  Speaker 4: was in the middle lane. I went over this with
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  Speaker 4: her again this morning. Semi truck was in the middle lane.
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  Speaker 4: There was an SUV. She didn't describe the brand, but
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  Speaker 4: she it was. She said, an SUV was in the
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: right lane, the slow lane, as as was she and
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: she saw this brown object get missed by the truck,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: and then with the suv what she saw was darkness
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: underneath between There was daylight out now the where you
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: could normally look through someone's you know, vehicle.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, like something underneath there, and then.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: What she saw was tagus shoot out between the wheels
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: of the rear of the vehicle. And this is at
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: full highway speed and start rolling high speed over and
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: over and over and over and over. She said, like
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: a like a can rolling down the road.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: And then she thought it was a deer because he's
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: like that red brown color. And then it stood up.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: She said, it stood up.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: It rolled from the car it was in the slow lane,
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: rolled onto the shoulder just about to the grass, and
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: it stood up. And all the while she's stopping, she's
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: getting she's starting to stop, and she said it stood
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: up and it just stood there, and then she pulled off.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Only got her nose. She told me this this morning
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: because I wanted more detail. She only put the nose
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: of her car, the front wheels into the shoulder of
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: the road, kind of pointing at the grass. And she
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: opened the door and the dog started walking back out
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: into the slow lane, and she, I think, she said,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: she left the door open, and she started calling the dog,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: calling the dog, and he was kind of confused, kind
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: of walking around in a circle, but still heading back
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: into the traffic. And then she just went up to
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: him and grabbed him by the collar and she had
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: an additional collar in her This is the I told
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: you this would take forever to tell you, Steve, No,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: you're doing good, because part of me can't still I
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: go back into this craziness of this. She she does volunteer.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Her name is Kristin Clausen and she literally does volunteer
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: work for a group called Animal Aid of Southwest Michigan.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: And her friends have told her, like they've been in
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: the car with her and she'll see a stray dog.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Or a loose dog with no owner.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: She keeps leashes and collars in her back seat where
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: if she sees a dog, and her friends have told her, Kristin,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: you are gonna get hurt or killed doing this.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: You got to you gotta just call this.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: There's something about this woman that if she sees a dog,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: she's got to help. And so she gets the dog
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: into her front seat of her car. She had to
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: pick it up, and she put it on the front
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: seat of the car and immediately calls her vet and
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: that's a veterinarian clinic in Barry In Springs called two
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: by two Animal Hospital. What's not open yet, And she
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: calls the after hours emergency number. They know her because
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: she brings in, you know, rescue dogs for shots or checkups,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: and they tell her to head there. It'll be open
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: if she gets there before eight o'clock, there'll be people
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: there waiting for And so when she calls me and
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: tells me this, she is I might be missing the timeline.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: She's telling me that she's already been to the clinic.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: She's on her way to work. Now the dog is
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: at the clinic, and now I've got about a fifteen
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: mile drive to bury In Springs, and I am still
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: just the only thing I can think of is that
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I got this dog four years ago from the same
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: town that I stay in in North Dakota, and have
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: to if the dog isn't already dead, then I'm going
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: to have to, you know, tell the veterinarian to euthanize it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: And I know this sounds really bizarre, but maybe dog
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: owners and dog lovers and hunters would understand. My intention
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: was not to turn around and go home. My intention
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: was to put a bag of ice on him in
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: the kennel and bury him as soon as I got
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: to North Dakota. Now that's kind of weird, but that's
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: where my head was.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Like burying back where he came from.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Arion, back where he came from on the prairie.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: And and uh so I'm in traffic and I'm trying
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: to get there, and it's a fifteen minute drive.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Now I get there and there's a woman on the
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: phone at the reception desk, and I want to.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Hold up real quick.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: This all is happening so fast that when you get
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the call from Bill, right, you're how many miles from
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: where she?
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: This happened so fast, you're only ten miles down the highway, right.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: She said, this happened just north of Sawyer, Michigan. And Sawyer,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Michigan is Exit twelve.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Yeap.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: So the exit she got off I had to turn
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: around was exit twelve. So this happened somewhere, you know,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: north of you know, thirteen miles north of dandel Line,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: fourteen miles north something like that. So when I get
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: the call from Bill, I'm two miles from Indiana. So
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: she got that dog in the car, called the vet
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: got that done, and then called Bill in a space
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: of about ten minutes, yep.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: So when I'm on my way.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: To the vetter ready, she's the dog already is at
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: the vet and.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I'm want to save this part for later.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: So I just get to the vet clinic and the
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: receptionist is on the phone and I'm trying not to
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: be like that guy, and I'm just like, okay, whatever
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: it is, it is, so whoever's on the phone's got
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: something important going on too, And finally she hangs up
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: and says, going to help you, and I said, yeah,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: I'm the guy that had the dog hit on the
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: interstate today, and she goes, oh, come with me, and
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: she brings me over to this waiting room five and
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I said, and then a vet tech walks in with her,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: and I said, could I just go see the dog
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: instead of going here? And she says, no, We'll bring
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: the dog in to you, and that I sit down,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. I mean,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: what are you going to bring the dog to me
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: on a on a gurney or you know, in a body.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Steve as God as my witness, she walked that dog
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: in on a leash and the dog's tail was wagon.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I sent you pictures. I don't know if it's phil
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: gonna be able to put.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna have them in post round.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: But if you give me ten seconds, I can pull
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: them up right now. Just give me give me a
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: sec here.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll have up in a minute.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Then you can extra adam, if you're in post, if
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you're post post. How am I trying to explain this film? No,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: not that picture, Phil, I know I'm moving it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: That is what my dog looked like when I walked
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: into the vet and he came up to me. And
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: you know, it's it's not even a cut. It's actually
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: like an abrasion across his middle of his brow, above
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: his eye and on the left side of his eye.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And yeah, it looks like if you took an iron. Yeah,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: it's like a branding iron and laid it across his forehead.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Yep. And I can't picture what did that. I can't
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: picture what did that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: And the weirdest part of it is like I'm still
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: looking at this dog and I'm crying because he's his
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: tail is waggoned. He's right between him sitting down, he's
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: right between my legs. And I asked the vetec, I
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: said how, and she says, I have no idea.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I said, but it it got out of my truck.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: On the interstate and she said, I know, but I said, well,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: how can this be? And she says, we don't know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: we don't know, and this this part is almost comical.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: She said, we gave him a full exam, and if
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: anybody's ever had their dog in an exam when there's
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: a limb or a problem, or or they've been hit
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: or you know, fell off of something, they do a
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: real extensive leg pull, like they pull the front leg
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: and they do a complete range of motion on all
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: four legs. And apparently he didn't have any reaction to that.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: And so I'm just beside myself. I'm sitting there with
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: tears in my eyes, pet in him. And she said,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: the only thing we found that we'd like to address
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Is he has an ear infection. I said, isn't that
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: the least of my problems?
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: She said, she said, from what we can tell, that's
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: his only problem. And I'm just I don't even I felt.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: I kept feeling like I was in a dream and
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: that I'm gonna wake up, and I'm like, I'm two
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: hours late for getting on the road when I wanted to,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: because it this can't happen, Steve.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: No, It's got to spill out of a moving truck
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: at seventy two miles an hour around a highway, get
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: rolled under another truck and know and you got.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: All you got is a ear infection.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: An ear infection, and a curling iron burn. It's it's
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: it's not. I have been through this one hundred times.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe. I mean, you're good at thinking about things. The
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: only thing you ever have a semi go by is
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: so close it almost moves your vehicle.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, that's why I can't.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I don't understand those people that like to ride that
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: like to do those bike rides down the long, the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: busy roads. Yeah, and every truck just rocks their world,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: man like with that wind.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hate that feeling.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: So I have to assume that I was in front
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: of the semi or somewhere.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Obviously I was in front of the semi, but I
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: don't know how far, whether it was a mile or yep,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Well, not a mile, Well, I don't know.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: That's why we need to find right, someone in America
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: was dry. They're like someone in America's been telling their friends,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: He'll never guess what. I watched a dog come flying
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: out of a truck and they think the dog's dead.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Right right?
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: And I even yesterday I called the non emergency number
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: for that county and I gave her the time and
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: date and she got She got back with me in
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: about ten minutes and she had no nine to one
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: one call.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Nobody can corded that dog coming out of the window.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you think, like just for I mean, I'm
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: gonna say it, the real obvious for people. If you
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: fall from a seventy two mile an hour pick up,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: when you hit the ground, you're.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Going seventy two miles an hour exactly.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just time?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Does it like denudes it?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Like denudes flesh?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Is that a word? I mean, it's a word, But
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: does that apply.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know what you're trying to say,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: removes it? It would.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: And so I'm still in a vet and I'm still
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: trying to get my wrap my arms around this, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: the vet comes out to me now and I asked
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: her the same question, how is this possible? And she says,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but the name of the vet clinic
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: is two by two is a reference in the on
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: their logo as an arc And she just kind of
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: she says, I can't tell you, and I'm like this, this.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Is I mean, it's a it's a miracle.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: He I'll get him out in a minute, and I'll
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: move my camera down to a chair. But all these
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: other things are in my head and I'm probably messing
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: this up because I'm kind of like reliving it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: So the vet says, i'd.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Like to take some more X rays and X rays
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: can also see if there's blood around organs.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: And I don't know.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I think the X ray is head first because I
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: got charged for two X rays the first.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: View in an additional view.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: I've got the report here from two by two, so
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: I said, yes, please do it. And then she comes
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: back and she says, no broken ribs, nothing in the legs.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: So I'm assuming the first was the head X ray
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: because of the head damage. No fracture in the skull,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: no broken bones, no bleeding on the organs. Now, to
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: go back to that first dog that I brought to
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: a clinic by Richmond on X rays because they didn't
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: do an MRI. On X rays, they showed me the
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: blood around the heart, the blood around the liver, the
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: it obscures the X ray. Yeah, they can tell when
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: there's fluid inside of a dog's body. There's nothing inside
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: this dog's body, Steve. And so I I'm sitting there
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: with them, and they give me.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: They give me they give me.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: The ear drops, and they give me the instructions for
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: the ear drops, and they give me a They give
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: me carprofen for pain, and they give me tras a
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: dome for anxiety in case he gets anxious or starts
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: walking around or gets confused.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: That's that's kind of like a not a pain killer,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: something to calm.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: A dog down, like a down, understand.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: And I never ended up giving him any tradazone tres dome.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: I did give him by prescription. The carprofen. I gave
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: him that for half a pill once twice a day.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: I did that for about three days for pain. Because
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: the other analogy, she said, well, I know he appears
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: fine right now, but he's probably going to be like
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: a person falling off a ladder, getting back on the ladder,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: and then getting out of bed in the morning and
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: be completely stiff, like he got hit by a truck.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: But so one of the other weird parts about this
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: story is had this not happened, and had this lady
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Kristen not been on that road that day. There's two
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: other scenarios obviously, either God himself did this or there's
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: some I don't care God did it, somebody somebody did it.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: But my mechanical thought was, this dog got caught up
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: in the suction of the semi truck and maybe flattened
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: out and spun. And could a vehicle straddle a dog
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: without hitting it?
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I guess if the dog was flat on its side
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: and had.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: To be flat, because your dog sixty five pounds, man,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: some bitch is way higher than the wheel hub.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he would have to be flat with.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: His start way higher than the transfer cases and all
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: that stuff.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: The rear end differential or a shock mount or the muffler,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: you know, any of these things would have sliced them
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: open or killed them.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: And I'll show them to you a little bit.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: There is not a mark on his body except a
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: little a little patch about the size of a quarter
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: on his rear elbow. So this dog slid on the
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: highway vacuumed up by a truck, I don't know. So
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: that's one of the things we're going to see. If
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: anybody was on I ninety four. It was June eighteenth,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: a Thursday, southbound on nine ninety four. Roughly, I'm gonna
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: say anywhere from seven fifteen to seven point thirty in
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: the morning, if you saw a dog on the road,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: or if you saw or if you were the person
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: that said I think I just ran over a deer,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: but I didn't feel anything.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Y, Hey, Ronnie, jump, Phil's gonna put
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: those pictures.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Jump to like, yeah, jump to it real quick.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Jump to how like how the dog could have gotten
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: out right because he's in a top or in a
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: dog box.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, if Phil can go to the picture on the inside.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: We got the exterior right now, right there it is.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: That's the inside of the truck. Tailgate is up, the
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: hatches up right now, that that dog kennel is.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's Ronnie's truck because there'd be empty
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: shell casings and empty beer cans everywhere.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: They're they're they're not in the pictures, trust me.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Mixed mixed gauges, you're right, many brands, many gauges and brands,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: but just one kind of beer can.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: So that as a fact, Steve's traveling with me. I
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: put them all in the door pocket to the truck
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: and it drives them crazy.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: But I reenacted this this morning to because I didn't
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: take a picture when it happened. This is how the
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: kennel's mounted up there PERMANENTLYEP.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: So he got out of the air and started roaming
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: around the truck and on.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: The in the front of the other kennel, there's about
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: four or you know, eight square feet of floor. That
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: cooler that you see was on that shelf.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: That shelf is thirteen inches wide and that window is
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: a glass window with a screen, and that morning I
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: slid that window open. It wasn't going to be hot,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: but it gets hot. Everything's been hot lately, so I
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: wanted full ventilation for the dogs, YEP, and so that
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: that glass window was opened. By design, the screen was
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: in place, but it's just a little pop in screen.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: When I opened the tailgate, when I pulled over quick,
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: that's what I saw. I saw that cooler sitting there,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: and there's another toolbox there that had my my dog
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: first aid kit that was all up on that shelf.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: I'm surmising that because I didn't double check that that latch,
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: probably he could have been out all the way from
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: twin lake, just sitting on the bottom, you know, kind
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: of antsy, like, you know, why am why am I?
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Why am I? Why aren't they in a kennel?
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's roaming around back there.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: He's roaming around the other two dogs below are probably like, hey,
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: how'd you get out?
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: You know? You know?
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: And the son of a bitch, how'd.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: You do that? Lets us out on a trip?
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: And I'm surmising that when I changed lanes or got
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: back on the highway, that that cooler and that toolbox
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: fell onto the space where he was.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he jumped back up onto that.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Shelf, but the door wasn't open, and possibly he just
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: dogs will lean or sit or try to prop themselves
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: up on something to sit down. And I surmise that
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: he leaned on that screen and the screen gave out.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: And that other picture again, I want people to know
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: I did this this morning, because I didn't do it
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: on the highway.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Ye that is that is exactly how that screen looked.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: When I opened the tailgate and then looked at the screen,
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: and my heart felt down to my knees in my feet,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: and all I could think about was this.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: You know, you can you picture it? You know the
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: worst thoughts of anything. Just you've seen roadkills, deer kills, dogs.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Look like you know what, Ronnie? What Ronnie like in
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: this to me? He says his daughter. This whole thing,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: he says, his daughter felt like, uh, you know what
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a wonderful It's a wonderful life. When Jimmy Stewart's there
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: fixing to jump off that jump off the bridge.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: And they send Clarence and that Clarence heads.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Down there, Ronnie thinks it was Clarence.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Clarence like creature guided his dog to the ground and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: guided his dog to that woman's hands.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Well, if you can explain how a dog doesn't get
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: road rash at seventy two miles an hour, I'll take
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: another explanation.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: You're open for suggestions.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I'm wide open, Steve. I'm hoping that three people calling
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: and says, no, it happened to me too.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: It's all the time, and it's incredible.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: It so.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: And then there's two other scenarios that could have played out,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: which would have been in this case, now that he's alive, that.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Could have been worse.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Because these are all dogs that are you to traveling.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: I won't stop and let the dogs out or check
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: on him until I need to tank a gas. From Michigan,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: I would get all the way to Madison, Wisconsin. I
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: do this route a lot, and somewhere around Madison, I
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: would have stopped, fueled up and taken all the dogs out,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: and I would have opened that kennel.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: I would have opened that door, and I would have
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: had six hours.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of what the hell?
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: What the hell?
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I don't even know if I could have drove back.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: The other scenario is I could have looked in my
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: side view mirror to change lanes. I could have witnessed
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: him fallout, and I probably would have crashed. I mean,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: what would you do if you saw your dog.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Fall out of your car on a highway while you
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: were driving. I don't think you could.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I'd think to myself, Man, my kids are gonna be
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: worked up about this.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and I thought about that too, about this
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: is the truth. I thought about how I'm not a
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: guy who posts. You know, I've looked out of all
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: those dogs I've had, and those are dogs that I've
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: kept for years at a time, not dogs that I've
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: had for a year and didn't work out, or or
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: gave to somebody who needed a dog, and I had
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: extra pupps dogs that I've had and hunted. I've never
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: put a post up on Facebook, and I don't say
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: anything to people do because they're good friends of mine
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: to do it. I never post anything about one of
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: my dogs dying. People find out it either through my
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: podcast or when I talked to him at peasant Fest,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: you know, like, Hey, how's Bravo and I saw he
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: passed away last year. I I just that's that's just
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: something that's just part of me, and it's something you
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: sign up for when you when you get a dog,
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: and you that's your that's.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Your thing, and that's how I handle it.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: So I fully when I was driving to that vet,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: I had I had no intention on telling anybody about
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: this except up my friends on the hunting trip and
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: the people I know there that I got the dog from, actually,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: and I would have probably told my listeners at.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Some point or something. I don't know. I don't know
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: how I would have handled it.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: But Ronnie's referring to the Hunting Dog podcast, Yes.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Which thanks to you well, we started on the same
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: day in January twenty fifteen. We did.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: We did that podcast at the kitchen table in Texas.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: And when I said, you mean you can do this
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: in the kitchen, I went home.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: I went home and bought recording equipment.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: And heay, I just got you know what's funny, man,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I just got to I drew a crane tag here
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: and I just got my second crane yesterday morning. You
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: allowed two cranes when you draw a crain tag here.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: We still don't have it in Michigan, Steve, that's a.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Great one of the great travesties. We'll get we'll get
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: it sorted out.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I started that just to to stories about
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: hunting trips and dogs and blah blah blah. And it's turning.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: I'm still doing it to this day. But I'll get
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna put this camera down. Oh is there a no,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: that's the only two pictures that are important.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Let's see the dog. Yeah, let's see the dog, and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: we'll say goodbye. We'll reissue a call for anyone that
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: can come in and find if you heard a story
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: where like you heard a story from someone that told
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: a story about watching a dog come out of a truck,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: or someone thinks they hit and kill the dog and
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: then they come home and they're all sad about hitting
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: and killing the dog anything like that.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Send them our way or send him around his way.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, can you see him.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Dog Lazarus. It's the Lazarus dog. His other dogs are
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: pissed now.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all off. So his uh, his scar is
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: just above gone. He's starting to grow hair over his eyebrow.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: That's a good look at the dog man that.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: There is not a mark on his didn't break a nail,
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: didn't chip a tooth.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: He's huh and his person.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: And four days later, I, you know, I certainly wanted
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: to give him a break, and I fully expected, Honestly,
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: I just assumed there'd be some damage to his head
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: and if he would have, he was curled up in
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: front of my seat for you know, nineteen hours of
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: more driving. Let them out and I slept in a
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: couple of rest areas, but for a nap. I didn't
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: do the ice trick this time, Steve, but you're right,
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: that is a trick of mine.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: And I gave him a few days.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: But when I was at the vet and they gave
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: me a leash, I walked into my truck and he
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: jumped up into the front seat.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Of my truck.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: He's done at the bag.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I didn't want to get PTSD. I mean, how
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: would you like to be put back in that kettle.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: How you doing this twice? I've been down this road
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: and honestly, uh so during the week that's he he
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: went right back into that truck and right back in.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: You know, I triple checked the latches and I'm actually
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: gonna install on the lower kennels. I'm going to install
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: some extra secondary hatch because this kennel has secondary latches.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: And I want everybody who's saying under their breath, it's
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: your fault, Ronnie, they're one hundred percent right. I should
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: have double checked that door and hit the appropriate extra latch,
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: and I wouldn't be on this store the show today
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: with you.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: But it's gonna be one of the great all time
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: stories of a dog living.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Through something that it's impossible, not a other than those
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: those cuts on or those abrasions on his forehead.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know, if you didn't know me, Steve, would
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: you believe this story?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: No, I would say if I didn't know you, I'd say,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I think the dog got out somewhere else, like at
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the rest stop.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Or I don't know what telling he said and something
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: look like that, and then the story was like no,
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: I saw it, And then somebody else told the story,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: and some pretty soon the story is no, I saw
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: the dog jump out of a truck.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: No, I'll tell people Ronnie's Ronnie is quicker to tell
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: a story about himself looking bad. He's about himself look good.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Matter of fact, Ronnie don't tell stories where Ronnie looks good.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Ronnie only tells stories when Ronnie looks like an ass.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: You said that, Steve on the episode that we did
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: on the Mountain Grouse. You said, he's he's the most
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: self deprecating buddy.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I know, yeah, and that narration, but yeah, he only
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: likes stories where he looks like an idiots.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Well, they're funnier, it's funnier.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Well listen, man, I'm glad the dog's live. I'm glad
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: you're live and happy, Steve.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: I want to do I want to in case I
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: missed anything. I want to thank Kristin Klausen.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Yep, that's the dog Savior.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: That's the dog Savior.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: She volunteers with Animal Aid of Southwest Michigan, and the
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: clinic was two by two Animal clinic in barry In Springs, and.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Oh I guess, uh yeah, no kidding.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: One fact I forgot to tell you is when she
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: pulled up to the vet clinic, they were aware that
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: she was coming, and they rolled a gurney out to
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: her car. She opened the door and walked the dog
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: out onto the sidewalk. So I've been told to play
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: the lottery. I've been told to start going back to church.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: I've been told to quit drinking, and I've been told
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: to quit smoking. I haven't done any of those things yet.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you're pretty good the way you are. Man.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: We'll keep you the way you are, all right.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I ninety four June or September eighteenth, somewhere
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: around seven point fifteen in the morning, southbound YE ninety four,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: about maybe thirteen fourteen miles north of the Indiana Line.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Get a hold of us. You can go to the
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: meat Eater at the Metater podcast subject line Ronnie's Dog.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: You can get a hold of Ronnie if you're on
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: YouTube going to the comment section say hey I saw
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: that dog.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Get hit.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Find Ronnie at the Hunting Dog podcast.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Or on a highway near you. Thank you so much.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Ronnie love you
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Thank you, I love you too, Steve, thank you, Body,