Latest / So Shameless / All Nwords Matter Feat @BeingBlackIsGhetto (Part Two)
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- 0:01Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, so so, if you
- 0:07Speaker 1: know what I'm sitting.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Somoss, if you know what I'm saying, so so shameless.
- 0:20Speaker 1: So so so sumous. If you know what I'm saying.
- 0:27Speaker 2: So shameless, if you know what I'm saying, so shameless,
- 0:35Speaker 2: if you know what.
- 0:36Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm gonna go sociremeless if you know what
- 0:42Speaker 1: I'm saying.
- 0:44Speaker 3: So.
- 0:46Speaker 4: I will say this though, if we're gonna get to
- 0:48Speaker 4: the politics, I do believe that that should be a topic.
- 0:50Speaker 5: Lesten.
- 0:50Speaker 6: Now, I wish, I wish I was prepared.
- 0:52Speaker 3: Nah, you're supposed to know it off the dome. That's
- 0:54Speaker 3: the whole point because right before you go vote, and
- 0:56Speaker 3: you're not gonna what you're gonna do, grab the textbook
- 0:59Speaker 3: and read it on the way.
- 1:00Speaker 6: I mean I would do it before I leave my house.
- 1:01Speaker 5: Yes, but what do you what did you feel like
- 1:03Speaker 5: you were kind of.
- 1:04Speaker 4: Like just in general, like I don't like I don't
- 1:06Speaker 4: like being not being in beside my source for whatever.
- 1:08Speaker 6: Points I'm making.
- 1:09Speaker 5: Google it, but I didn't cite any sources.
- 1:12Speaker 7: You may, you may, You didn't have to make the
- 1:14Speaker 7: point that you have a sight for like the conversation.
- 1:19Speaker 6: I like giving people the facts right then and there.
- 1:21Speaker 5: That way the conversation.
- 1:23Speaker 7: But Jordan, the conversation developed naturally. It was an introduction
- 1:26Speaker 7: where explaining who our guests were, and it naturally went
- 1:30Speaker 7: into politics.
- 1:31Speaker 5: It's not like that. I did not have that on
- 1:33Speaker 5: the playn't.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Want you to know that y'all took it to politics.
- 1:37Speaker 5: I did not have it on the plane.
- 1:38Speaker 3: I took it.
- 1:39Speaker 5: There and none of that was there.
- 1:43Speaker 6: It ain't because that was a little while.
- 1:45Speaker 4: I didn't even get to double back on that take.
- 1:48Speaker 4: I started just like any kid, just saying whatever, I mean,
- 1:52Speaker 4: let them do what they want the body or child.
- 1:54Speaker 6: That is harmful rhetoric. I guess that is harmful.
- 1:58Speaker 3: It'd be like that sometimes.
- 2:00Speaker 5: I'd rather that than what's going on with Trump right now.
- 2:04Speaker 5: I'd rather that than what's going on in this country.
- 2:05Speaker 5: But yo, can we move on because I actually have
- 2:09Speaker 5: to go, Oh, hey, y'all, how y'all doing? Welcome back
- 2:13Speaker 5: to So Shameless Part two. Yes, I actually have to
- 2:16Speaker 5: go to my grandmother's house today. You know, my grandmother
- 2:21Speaker 5: passed two of my no this happened a year and
- 2:24Speaker 5: a half ago, but she left the house to two
- 2:28Speaker 5: of her daughters, one of them ladies like to sell
- 2:31Speaker 5: the house. Bro. They've been fighting for this shit. Like
- 2:35Speaker 5: literally the family broke apart in time, Yo, my family.
- 2:41Speaker 3: You would never think until I have.
- 2:44Speaker 5: Not been over there since. Bro. I literally like my
- 2:47Speaker 5: heart broke into a million pieces, and I could not
- 2:49Speaker 5: stomach walking through the doors, knowing that they'd probably be
- 2:53Speaker 5: the last day, last time I walked through the doors,
- 2:56Speaker 5: and it would be sold to some white people and
- 2:58Speaker 5: I'd be seeing. She was like a heavy civil rights
- 3:04Speaker 5: like like she was out there. She got arrested at
- 3:06Speaker 5: seventy five or something like that, getting you know, you
- 3:11Speaker 5: know where they stand outside and some ship and they protesting.
- 3:13Speaker 5: She went to jail with David Dinkins type ship. Like
- 3:16Speaker 5: she was like active in the community. She would send
- 3:20Speaker 5: money to Africa every fucking month for like African schools
- 3:25Speaker 5: and shit like that. And in her house. The minute
- 3:27Speaker 5: she dies, they're gonna have white people walking in and
- 3:31Speaker 5: out of this ship for some bread. Bro.
- 3:32Speaker 3: I don't have a question for I can't beat people.
- 3:33Speaker 3: You can't like just sometimes you just gotta snuff someonne,
- 3:37Speaker 3: is it.
- 3:37Speaker 5: The two sisters, The two sisters who left the Equal
- 3:40Speaker 5: Equal portions, Well one beat.
- 3:42Speaker 3: The other sisters.
- 3:42Speaker 5: I mean, well, well, well I want to hear what
- 3:44Speaker 5: Jay you got to say. It has been resolved, which
- 3:46Speaker 5: is why we're going over there today. But go ahead, Jay,
- 3:48Speaker 5: what are you gonna say?
- 3:49Speaker 4: All you guys are from Brooklyn? Yeah, because I know
- 3:51Speaker 4: what based on what I've been saying. What is your
- 3:53Speaker 4: opinion on deaf Oh, let's.
- 3:54Speaker 5: Not go there yet because that's switching on the way right.
- 3:57Speaker 5: But yeah, so the one sister, what don't do respect, Jake?
- 4:02Speaker 5: Just give me a second with the one sister bought
- 4:05Speaker 5: the house from the other sister. She's seventy she's seventy five.
- 4:10Speaker 5: She had to take out a loan, a mortgage to
- 4:12Speaker 5: pay the other sister almost a million dollars to keep
- 4:16Speaker 5: the house. She's on her pension. Bro, I'm like, Yo,
- 4:21Speaker 5: the evils that money does bro yep like and don't
- 4:25Speaker 5: clip this, Drew, don't clip this. But the like, I
- 4:28Speaker 5: cannot believe your mom died because I'm never speaking this
- 4:32Speaker 5: on again and my natural life, she would never hear
- 4:35Speaker 5: my voice come out towards her. I'm good and I
- 4:38Speaker 5: loved her, Bro, but I'm good, right, money like you
- 4:45Speaker 5: could have dipped and just rented your spot. But you
- 4:49Speaker 5: really did that like that, and I just can't yo.
- 4:53Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, I'm going because
- 4:56Speaker 5: you know, I had this cousin, you know, yesterday's coming,
- 4:58Speaker 5: but I was like, I don't know if I'm emotionally
- 5:02Speaker 5: prepared to go over there because of that trauma. I
- 5:05Speaker 5: was hurt. Bro My grandmother used to take me to
- 5:08Speaker 5: swim in every Sunday. She cooked every night, like I
- 5:12Speaker 5: grew up with this woman, and y'all was just going
- 5:15Speaker 5: violate like that, like dead ass.
- 5:17Speaker 3: I'm very happy that a solution was found because that
- 5:21Speaker 3: is a very heartbreaking thing. Remember I lost three my
- 5:25Speaker 3: family lost three Brownstones, and every time I walk past,
- 5:28Speaker 3: I can't even go down my old blocks. Like when
- 5:31Speaker 3: I'm walking down past, I can't walk past that. I
- 5:34Speaker 3: do not walk past any of those houses. I can't.
- 5:38Speaker 3: And I'm so happy that y'all found a way because
- 5:40Speaker 3: this shit is really fucked up. I saw a white
- 5:42Speaker 3: person come out of my aunt house recently because she
- 5:46Speaker 3: was right over here, right Verona, right here, and I
- 5:48Speaker 3: was just like I could see it from the corner,
- 5:51Speaker 3: but I never walked like directly past it.
- 5:53Speaker 7: This happens more than anythink like it happens an often
- 5:56Speaker 7: happened in my family, happened in so many families that
- 5:58Speaker 7: I know about because you think about it, like you know,
- 6:01Speaker 7: when somebody passes you, Yeah, they can still have the house,
- 6:07Speaker 7: but now you have to be responsible for use. You
- 6:08Speaker 7: have to manage the house, You have to rent the house.
- 6:10Speaker 7: You might get some monthly cash flow, but that's different
- 6:13Speaker 7: than a lump some payment of like half a million
- 6:15Speaker 7: a million dollars, right, and you not every person, not
- 6:18Speaker 7: every sibling is gonna be on the same page financially
- 6:21Speaker 7: for some person a life change. For most of us,
- 6:25Speaker 7: a half a million dollars upfront, a million dollars upfront
- 6:27Speaker 7: is life changing, and it's different than still having a
- 6:30Speaker 7: manage of property. And you might be able to cash
- 6:33Speaker 7: flow monthly versus a lump sum and not have to
- 6:36Speaker 7: deal with the responsibility. So it makes sense. It happens
- 6:40Speaker 7: all the time. And I go, you know, I say
- 6:42Speaker 7: that to say, like there, if you anticipate there being
- 6:45Speaker 7: a problem with your siblings not getting along, there's clauses
- 6:48Speaker 7: you could put in your trust to ensure that what
- 6:52Speaker 7: you have in mind is going to happen like you
- 6:54Speaker 7: should happened after she passed.
- 6:56Speaker 5: That's what I'm so.
- 6:58Speaker 7: What I'm saying, before she passed, if she could have
- 7:00Speaker 7: put some and I'm saying that for people that are listening,
- 7:03Speaker 7: that are living, when it's time to make your estate planning,
- 7:06Speaker 7: you could put things in your trust to you know,
- 7:09Speaker 7: be clear on what your intentions are, what you want
- 7:11Speaker 7: to have happened, what you don't want to have happened.
- 7:13Speaker 7: Another thing, I'll point out the house that I bought.
- 7:16Speaker 7: I bought from a family where the patriarch died. The
- 7:21Speaker 7: family was left to the kids. The kids were living
- 7:23Speaker 7: down south. They didn't want to deal with the house,
- 7:26Speaker 7: but they were very intentional on selling the house to
- 7:28Speaker 7: a black family and I got lucky and that's how
- 7:30Speaker 7: I got it the house to not go in the market.
- 7:32Speaker 7: So there's always that too. So there's always ways where
- 7:35Speaker 7: you could kind.
- 7:36Speaker 5: Of you can do that it has to go to
- 7:38Speaker 5: a black FAMI. You can put that in the trust.
- 7:39Speaker 3: You could put anything you can put trust.
- 7:42Speaker 7: So this was not in their trust. This was just
- 7:44Speaker 7: an understanding between the siblings that were allowed. Right, they
- 7:47Speaker 7: were very intentional about who they were going to sell the.
- 7:49Speaker 3: House, and you can't be like an off the room.
- 7:51Speaker 3: You got to be like at least a half a
- 7:53Speaker 3: half what jush.
- 7:54Speaker 5: People do it from my neighborhood real quick, Jay did
- 7:57Speaker 5: have a question that he wanted to know. He asked me, O,
- 8:00Speaker 5: D theath, what do you mean? What do you think?
- 8:02Speaker 5: What do you when you ask what do you How
- 8:04Speaker 5: do y'all feel about d theft case?
- 8:05Speaker 4: I know it's mainly based on what I've seen in
- 8:07Speaker 4: the news that is mainly affecting Brooklyn residence. So that's
- 8:10Speaker 4: why I wanted to know, like, have you guys been
- 8:11Speaker 4: affected by personally?
- 8:12Speaker 5: Well, that house was right around the corner here. The
- 8:14Speaker 5: house literally is go to the corner, make a left,
- 8:17Speaker 5: make a right. It's on that block right there. The
- 8:19Speaker 5: one that we're talking about that was in the news,
- 8:21Speaker 5: that was, Yeah, that's literally right around the corner. That one,
- 8:25Speaker 5: though I kind of tried to stay out of that one.
- 8:29Speaker 5: The dad, the father apparently was like in some type
- 8:34Speaker 5: of some conservatory or something like that. And I'm gonna
- 8:43Speaker 5: take a page out of your book. I didn't do
- 8:44Speaker 5: the research on this, so I'm gonna say that before
- 8:46Speaker 5: I say that. But any in any case, they he
- 8:49Speaker 5: wasn't being tracked by his family the way he needed
- 8:52Speaker 5: to be apparently, and they people came in and took
- 8:57Speaker 5: the house from under him, sent it through a shell
- 8:59Speaker 5: or organization. Why while they didn't they there's like zig
- 9:02Speaker 5: zag real quick to get it out of the way,
- 9:04Speaker 5: and it was gone, and so they weren't paying attention. Trauma.
- 9:08Speaker 5: Am I wrong?
- 9:10Speaker 7: Yeah, kind of, there's so it was. It's definitely not
- 9:14Speaker 7: a typical deep theft. The theft comes in different faces.
- 9:17Speaker 7: It's not always as simple as forgery. It's manipulation. And
- 9:21Speaker 7: in this case, he was in the guardianship guardian. He
- 9:25Speaker 7: lived in Georgia, and so he didn't personally sign off
- 9:28Speaker 7: of it. His guardian signed off, which legally this guardian
- 9:31Speaker 7: cannot sign off it because it's in a different state.
- 9:34Speaker 7: So they would need a New York representative that has
- 9:38Speaker 7: what do you call it like proxy to make his
- 9:40Speaker 7: decisions to be able to sign off it. So there's
- 9:44Speaker 7: you know, his guardian could be compromised. They could be
- 9:47Speaker 7: in on it, you know what I mean. So's it's
- 9:49Speaker 7: a lot of things that play Well, how did it
- 9:51Speaker 7: how did it.
- 9:52Speaker 5: Go through that? If the guardian was from Georgia and
- 9:55Speaker 5: what was supposed to.
- 9:55Speaker 7: That's why they're fighting it, and that's why they have
- 9:58Speaker 7: a lot of legal legs to stand on. But at
- 10:00Speaker 7: the end of the day, they was signed off and
- 10:03Speaker 7: money was exchanged, you know what I mean. So that's
- 10:06Speaker 7: why at some point the sheriffs did come because this
- 10:09Speaker 7: other person technically legally has control of the estate now
- 10:14Speaker 7: because they got paid for the sale of the house,
- 10:17Speaker 7: or excuse me, they paid for sale it house.
- 10:19Speaker 5: So why you if you know all this going on, bro,
- 10:22Speaker 5: why are you even in on this. You'll get my
- 10:24Speaker 5: money back. You don't want to be with all this
- 10:26Speaker 5: you've got going on with it because.
- 10:27Speaker 3: It's because of what it's worth. You think about what
- 10:30Speaker 3: it's worth, to think about it is it's right, and
- 10:33Speaker 3: then if you do construction right and then you like
- 10:36Speaker 3: fix it up, it's worth even more. I have a
- 10:41Speaker 3: deep disdain for d theft because that is lightly what
- 10:45Speaker 3: happened in my family, where the lawyers had a manipulas
- 10:51Speaker 3: uh manipulative kind of deal with one of my cousins,
- 10:58Speaker 3: who in my aunt's will was never ever ever supposed
- 11:01Speaker 3: to have any control of any of those properties because
- 11:04Speaker 3: she was an ex drug not drug dealer, drug addict.
- 11:08Speaker 3: So nah, she was an ex drug addict. So you
- 11:11Speaker 3: basically manipulated a crackhead into signing off on selling she
- 11:17Speaker 3: was a crack fuck that bitch like spin on her
- 11:19Speaker 3: grave type shit. I don't care. You have a crackhead
- 11:24Speaker 3: that's in business with lawyers that sold my aunt's legacy
- 11:28Speaker 3: three Brownstones in Bedstide And this was in two thousand
- 11:34Speaker 3: and nine, sold three brownstones like they was motherfucking girl
- 11:38Speaker 3: scout cookies, Like, not even for what they were worth.
- 11:42Speaker 3: Who would give that type of power to a crackhead?
- 11:45Speaker 3: It Like, that's really that's what happens all the time.
- 11:48Speaker 3: So my family legacy has been really messed up because
- 11:53Speaker 3: of that. But one day I hope and pray I
- 11:56Speaker 3: get one of my aunt's houses.
- 11:57Speaker 6: So in your opinion, now, why do you guys think
- 11:58Speaker 6: they're targeting.
- 12:00Speaker 5: Old people, Well, this neighborhood is well, so this house
- 12:06Speaker 5: fifteen years ago was worth seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
- 12:10Speaker 5: This house worth three million dollars right now. And this neighborhood,
- 12:15Speaker 5: there's been other neighborhoods in New York that have gone
- 12:17Speaker 5: through what's happening right here. They're about to do all
- 12:19Speaker 5: of Atlantic Avenue. This house is gonna be worth five
- 12:21Speaker 5: to six seven million in the next fifteen years. So
- 12:25Speaker 5: they're coming in low with high numbers for now, but
- 12:29Speaker 5: they know they're going to triple their million dollar investment
- 12:33Speaker 5: in a matter of years in this neighborhood. And they
- 12:35Speaker 5: also know, we don't have the money to keep it.
- 12:39Speaker 5: We don't have it to pay the one point five
- 12:42Speaker 5: or to spend on it. When they come and shit,
- 12:46Speaker 5: you're trying to you know, you got this from your grandfather.
- 12:48Speaker 3: Right, and it was cheap as hell when they play
- 12:51Speaker 3: thirty thousand back there, Yes, nobody like there's a lot
- 12:53Speaker 3: of people that moved out of these neighborhoods. And black
- 12:56Speaker 3: people were able to afford brownstones in beds, die in
- 13:00Speaker 3: like like houses in like Flatbush and stuff like that.
- 13:04Speaker 3: They were able to afford it because they were really
- 13:06Speaker 3: really cheap. They were far away, far enough away from
- 13:09Speaker 3: the city where like the working class people mostly came
- 13:13Speaker 3: from these areas, so they were able to afford homes.
- 13:16Speaker 3: And now that things are coming up, things are hiking up. People.
- 13:19Speaker 3: Can you have close proximity to Manhattan, You have close
- 13:22Speaker 3: proximity to like other like things like the airport. You
- 13:25Speaker 3: right in the middle of everything. People want to live here,
- 13:29Speaker 3: and that's really what it is like. You're trying to
- 13:31Speaker 3: basically take Grandmama's house.
- 13:34Speaker 6: My brother lived on not too far from here.
- 13:36Speaker 4: And if I do find it kind of crazy when
- 13:37Speaker 4: I drive through Brooklyn, now, I ain't never see white
- 13:40Speaker 4: people jogging on the streets.
- 13:44Speaker 5: They want to put a bike lane on this block.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Bikelan, get the fuck out of there.
- 13:49Speaker 5: They was trying to put a bike plane right. Wrong, right,
- 13:52Speaker 5: They was trying to put a bike lane all up.
- 13:54Speaker 5: What the fuck right? But this is what I was saying, like,
- 13:57Speaker 5: imagine you got this crib from your grid for the
- 14:00Speaker 5: and you work at, say you work at Starbucks. Starbucks
- 14:03Speaker 5: is going to be the common thing, and the Jewish
- 14:07Speaker 5: dude comes knocks on your door it says, I'll give
- 14:10Speaker 5: you one point five million for this right now, and with.
- 14:13Speaker 3: The briefcase in hand, because they used to come to
- 14:14Speaker 3: my door all the time.
- 14:17Speaker 7: Here's here's another I'm sorry. Another play is like let's
- 14:21Speaker 7: say Dosha, myself, a siblings, and you know, we get
- 14:25Speaker 7: left a house. Somebody can come and be like Trump,
- 14:30Speaker 7: I'm gonna buy your portion, right, So now they own
- 14:33Speaker 7: one third, and now they can force the other other
- 14:35Speaker 7: siblings to sell similar Unfortunately, as a one third ownership,
- 14:41Speaker 7: now I can force y'all to to sell, because how
- 14:43Speaker 7: else are we're gonna split the house?
- 14:44Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Legal?
- 14:46Speaker 7: So they'll they'll divide and conquer. So, unfortunately, black folks
- 14:50Speaker 7: are vulnerable because we're in financial situations where we you know,
- 14:56Speaker 7: we could need that up front.
- 14:57Speaker 5: Bread. Let's explain how you force that. Ho Let's explain
- 15:00Speaker 5: how you forced to sell the house real quick before
- 15:02Speaker 5: we go. Trump said that he nailed it. How are
- 15:06Speaker 5: we gonna split this up? I own a third and
- 15:09Speaker 5: y'all to own a third, right, So now you say, well,
- 15:13Speaker 5: you can have the top floor. I don't want the
- 15:14Speaker 5: top floor. I want to I went to the bottom stairs.
- 15:16Speaker 5: I want the bottom floor in the backyard. I'm not
- 15:18Speaker 5: giving you the bottom floor in the backyard. This is
- 15:20Speaker 5: my grandfather's house. I'm giving you that, all right. I
- 15:22Speaker 5: don't agree with your terms, and I own a third
- 15:24Speaker 5: of the house. So taking the court, the court says,
- 15:27Speaker 5: y'all gotta figure it out, yo, he just bought in.
- 15:30Speaker 5: These other two people have lived the generationals live here.
- 15:34Speaker 5: He just brought in, but he owns a percentage of
- 15:36Speaker 5: this house. The court says, Yo, y'all gotta figure out.
- 15:39Speaker 5: If y'all don't figure it out, what we're gonna do
- 15:41Speaker 5: is sell it and give y'all each a third of
- 15:44Speaker 5: the house. Boom house done.
- 15:49Speaker 3: When their whole objective ones regardless.
- 15:52Speaker 5: Of course, because now the house is on the market,
- 15:54Speaker 5: they got another company right there waiting for it. Yep,
- 15:57Speaker 5: boom swipe, take it off done.
- 15:59Speaker 3: Sell it to I sell it to what is it
- 16:02Speaker 3: like the Remax or the Trulia or something like that
- 16:05Speaker 3: that I got a homie in. They get the commission.
- 16:08Speaker 3: Now we still got the house like it's a business.
- 16:10Speaker 3: I'm telling y'all, I will never forget watching these Jewish
- 16:14Speaker 3: men just come knock on every door and.
- 16:17Speaker 7: They don't still do it, And they don't even.
- 16:20Speaker 5: About whether it's profitable.
- 16:22Speaker 7: They don't because part of their beliefs is just to
- 16:24Speaker 7: own real estate, so they don't even care if the
- 16:26Speaker 7: cash flow is going to have a net gain or not.
- 16:29Speaker 7: So and if you think about it, where we are
- 16:31Speaker 7: in proximity to Crown Heights in South Williamsburg, right there
- 16:34Speaker 7: is they're just the whole shit up.
- 16:36Speaker 3: All right, and that they don't they just rent out
- 16:38Speaker 3: rooms to a bunch of people, and you just charging
- 16:41Speaker 3: twelve hundred dollars for a closet.
- 16:43Speaker 5: So I'm a this is a family house. My mom
- 16:47Speaker 5: and my daughter. I live here. I rent out apartment upstairs.
- 16:53Speaker 5: My mom comes to me the other day. My daughter
- 16:56Speaker 5: lives downstairs and her portion in the house. She says, uh,
- 17:00Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna charge her rent. You know, she
- 17:05Speaker 5: has a full time job, she makes money. I'm retired.
- 17:08Speaker 5: I could use some help. She lives here. She doesn't
- 17:11Speaker 5: help with none of this stuff. I said, my I
- 17:16Speaker 5: pay the bills here. I pay all your bills. What
- 17:18Speaker 5: does she use of yours? That is, like you, I
- 17:23Speaker 5: don't understand. This is the room she grew up in.
- 17:25Speaker 5: How is it that now, all of a sudden, this
- 17:29Speaker 5: turns into a source of income. I don't understand. It's
- 17:33Speaker 5: not like you pay lights, you don't pay gas, you
- 17:35Speaker 5: don't pay the internet. Like what do we what is
- 17:37Speaker 5: the thing that she's using? And she was like, well,
- 17:41Speaker 5: she's twenty five, she makes a good amount of money,
- 17:46Speaker 5: she makes a decent amount of money. Why wouldn't she
- 17:49Speaker 5: start paying bills. There's a question that really I thought, well,
- 17:53Speaker 5: I'd argued right. She was like, and you always protect her,
- 17:57Speaker 5: that's my job. I'm my dad. But at the end
- 17:59Speaker 5: of the day is I don't see why a child
- 18:02Speaker 5: should have to pay for their room at any point.
- 18:07Speaker 5: And I think that that shit that happened in black
- 18:09Speaker 5: families all the time is that I think that some
- 18:12Speaker 5: black families. I said, we got to think about making
- 18:15Speaker 5: sure that we can propel her into the next stage
- 18:17Speaker 5: so that each generation gets better. Each of our generations
- 18:21Speaker 5: should get better. Right, we're fighting from the civil rights
- 18:24Speaker 5: of her from slavery, were all fighting to make a
- 18:27Speaker 5: step up. Why would we take that income from her
- 18:30Speaker 5: right now where she's at in her life. You know,
- 18:34Speaker 5: I just don't think that it makes sense. So we
- 18:35Speaker 5: had a whole conversation about it. But it seems like
- 18:37Speaker 5: y'all all agree with you. Does anybody disagree?
- 18:40Speaker 6: I don't disagree.
- 18:41Speaker 4: The only point I seen on social media a while ago,
- 18:44Speaker 4: because it was actually a good thing. It was like,
- 18:46Speaker 4: take rent from your child for X amount of years
- 18:48Speaker 4: or whereever long they are, and then when they decide
- 18:50Speaker 4: to leave, you give it back to them. So you basically,
- 18:52Speaker 4: only you're just like their savings account for I thought
- 18:54Speaker 4: that was kind of a good idea, Like, say your
- 18:56Speaker 4: daughter wants to go buy a house in the future.
- 18:58Speaker 6: Now, Jae, she was living under you roof paying rent
- 18:59Speaker 6: for three years.
- 19:00Speaker 4: Just take all that money throwing to saving his account
- 19:02Speaker 4: for when she's ready to buy a house, just give
- 19:03Speaker 4: it all back to her. That's the only reason I
- 19:06Speaker 4: think that would be valid. Other than that, Yeah, I
- 19:07Speaker 4: don't believe in charging your kids. I don't want to
- 19:09Speaker 4: live with you.
- 19:10Speaker 3: I don't believe in it either, and I can speak
- 19:12Speaker 3: from experience. I've been paying rent since I was fourteen
- 19:14Speaker 3: years old. I'm thirty now, and I never agreed with it,
- 19:18Speaker 3: But I also understood that I had a mother that struggled,
- 19:20Speaker 3: so it was like I struggling, Now I kind of
- 19:22Speaker 3: got to help me out to struggle. I I agree
- 19:25Speaker 3: with what Jordan's saying it on that, but then also
- 19:27Speaker 3: teaching your kids how to pay bills, because my mother
- 19:30Speaker 3: not only was it to struggle, but then she was
- 19:32Speaker 3: like no one ever taught her how to pay bills
- 19:34Speaker 3: and maintain.
- 19:35Speaker 6: She was like her mom dad.
- 19:36Speaker 3: But she was nineteen, so she was like, I want
- 19:38Speaker 3: you to know that if I ever die, y'all don't
- 19:40Speaker 3: lose this house. So I understood in certain things her point,
- 19:43Speaker 3: even though a lot of it was rooted. And you
- 19:45Speaker 3: can't afford this on your own, so you need today.
- 19:48Speaker 3: So if I don't like, if I lose my job today,
- 19:50Speaker 3: we all in trouble. It's not like, oh, you lose
- 19:52Speaker 3: your job, Okay, I'm I haven't it was we we
- 19:55Speaker 3: gonna be homeless. But I do believe in making your
- 19:58Speaker 3: kids saved, so that way or just showing them like
- 20:01Speaker 3: this is how much the rent is, this is how
- 20:02Speaker 3: you pay the light bill, and allowing them that that
- 20:05Speaker 3: liberty the next month. I need you to take care
- 20:07Speaker 3: of the light bulb, not because I need you to,
- 20:09Speaker 3: but I need you to know how to do it.
- 20:11Speaker 3: That if daddy goes, or or if a man ever
- 20:14Speaker 3: puts you out, orf a woman ever puts you out,
- 20:15Speaker 3: you know how to get it on your own. And
- 20:17Speaker 3: I'm really big on that. Like, did I like paying
- 20:18Speaker 3: bill since I was fourteen? Absolutely not. I don't like
- 20:20Speaker 3: him now, But did it teach me that if you
- 20:23Speaker 3: ever put me out, I'm good, I'm straight. I know
- 20:26Speaker 3: how to make it happen for myself. But I don't
- 20:28Speaker 3: agree with oh, you gotta pay your way because I
- 20:30Speaker 3: didn't ask to be here. You bought this house before
- 20:32Speaker 3: I got here. Like if you if you bought into
- 20:34Speaker 3: something you could afford, that's on you, not on me.
- 20:36Speaker 3: But now we're making and again I don't see it
- 20:39Speaker 3: in white neighborhoods, but we're making it a thing in
- 20:42Speaker 3: the black community. I don't know no black person that
- 20:44Speaker 3: sits there and be like, oh, I don't gotta pay
- 20:46Speaker 3: bills my mama house, And it's like, that's ridiculous to me.
- 20:50Speaker 5: I don't.
- 20:50Speaker 3: I definitely don't agree with that.
- 20:51Speaker 6: Did you.
- 20:52Speaker 3: Did you guys come to a solution where you're.
- 20:54Speaker 5: Doing, Okay, I'm gonna take care of my mom. She
- 20:57Speaker 5: needs more money, I'll just give him more money.
- 20:58Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because that's the I think that's the that's
- 21:01Speaker 3: the origin of it. Like I remember when my grandmother,
- 21:06Speaker 3: God Rest her soul, she tried to pull that on
- 21:07Speaker 3: me and I was like, listen, listen here, that's absolutely
- 21:11Speaker 3: not going to happen. But if you need something I got,
- 21:13Speaker 3: you just tell me. But what we're not going to
- 21:15Speaker 3: do is you're not going to charge me for the same.
- 21:17Speaker 5: Room, bully for free, bully your grandma.
- 21:21Speaker 3: It's not a bully.
- 21:22Speaker 5: You definitely bullied then I believe her. That's not that's
- 21:25Speaker 5: what's not going to happen.
- 21:26Speaker 3: That's not going to happen. I love you so much,
- 21:29Speaker 3: but no, like girl, you know you tried to bully me,
- 21:32Speaker 3: Like the fuck?
- 21:34Speaker 5: She's like, I give you the bread.
- 21:36Speaker 3: But we got to frame it differently, right, It's not like, oh,
- 21:38Speaker 3: you're nineteen now and you're working, so I'm also going
- 21:42Speaker 3: to school. I'm also paying my way through all of
- 21:44Speaker 3: this degrees, Like.
- 21:47Speaker 5: There's a world where I disagree with all of this.
- 21:52Speaker 5: Start the conversations, well that's what I do, know how
- 21:56Speaker 5: to do this, right, But you're just spending your money
- 22:01Speaker 5: on takeout and shoes, not you, not you pocket watching that.
- 22:06Speaker 5: I use that. I use that the people around you
- 22:11Speaker 5: is handling life and you kind of just skipping through it.
- 22:13Speaker 5: Because now if you're actually you're actually but you're if
- 22:16Speaker 5: you're actually working towards goals, right, if you're actually living
- 22:22Speaker 5: real life, because how long am I going to shelter
- 22:24Speaker 5: you for? Right, there's rich people out there that was
- 22:27Speaker 5: like that that will tell you they're not giving no
- 22:29Speaker 5: money to their children unless they are working hard at
- 22:34Speaker 5: living right, and then I'll make sure that you got it.
- 22:37Speaker 5: But I'm not going to shelter you. To your point, Jalen,
- 22:41Speaker 5: you're you're you kind of aren't being trained for real life.
- 22:46Speaker 5: You getting all this money because you got a great
- 22:48Speaker 5: job with your degree and everything right, and you just
- 22:53Speaker 5: with your little degree, You're getting all this money, but
- 22:57Speaker 5: your spending habits are crazy. So now something happens, you
- 23:01Speaker 5: can't live here, the more you are behind the rest
- 23:04Speaker 5: of the world that had to work to get to
- 23:06Speaker 5: where you are right now, just because everybody else taking
- 23:09Speaker 5: care of everything around you. So there's a world where
- 23:12Speaker 5: I would say, what would that's what you get to
- 23:15Speaker 5: take the bread and Jalen stack it right, just so
- 23:19Speaker 5: that she has it for later she don't know, right,
- 23:22Speaker 5: but also to train her for life. Goe ahead, Trump
- 23:25Speaker 5: or so what happened to me?
- 23:27Speaker 7: I feel like it's ideal because I think as a
- 23:30Speaker 7: young person, it's great you're going through life basically at
- 23:35Speaker 7: the mercy of your parents and what they're going to
- 23:36Speaker 7: buy for you and do for you. So when you
- 23:38Speaker 7: become a young adult in your early twenties, when you
- 23:40Speaker 7: get your first couple of paychecks, it's okay to to
- 23:43Speaker 7: buy Jordan's and frivolous stuff like that. I think that
- 23:46Speaker 7: should last for a couple of years, if y'all have
- 23:48Speaker 7: the ability to do so, right, And then at some point,
- 23:52Speaker 7: so what happened with me? I remember when I was young,
- 23:54Speaker 7: in my young twenties, all my paycheck was going to
- 23:56Speaker 7: my frivolous spending, right I could, you know, go to
- 23:59Speaker 7: my whatever by Iceberg, by name brand shit that I
- 24:03Speaker 7: can't even afford right now, right. But then it got
- 24:07Speaker 7: to the point where my parents never put me out
- 24:10Speaker 7: the house, but they did say, I'm gonna help you
- 24:13Speaker 7: buy your own house, but you need to put up
- 24:17Speaker 7: a portion of down payment. So at that point I
- 24:20Speaker 7: knew I had to raise twenty thousand dollars. So I
- 24:24Speaker 7: had to stop in my mid twenties where all of
- 24:27Speaker 7: my friends is going on trips, I had to stop
- 24:30Speaker 7: going on trips be more responsible. So I had the
- 24:33Speaker 7: best of both worlds, you know what I mean. I
- 24:35Speaker 7: had those couple of years where I was being frivolous,
- 24:38Speaker 7: and you know, to Jordan's point, instead of paying rent,
- 24:42Speaker 7: I was saving money for the crib or you know,
- 24:45Speaker 7: what I mean. Or I could have gave the money
- 24:47Speaker 7: to my parents and they saved it. But whoever saves
- 24:49Speaker 7: it is irrelevant. At some point that should be a
- 24:52Speaker 7: conversation like Okay, you could send, you could spend a
- 24:55Speaker 7: little frivolously for now, but after a couple of years,
- 24:58Speaker 7: sit down and be like, all right, I'm not asking
- 25:00Speaker 7: you to pay rate, but I'm gonna give you. I
- 25:02Speaker 7: put you on a timeline where you got to have
- 25:04Speaker 7: your own you should have X amounts saved up. I
- 25:06Speaker 7: can help you, but you gotta have some skin in
- 25:08Speaker 7: the game exactly. And that forces them to save on
- 25:12Speaker 7: their own without you giving them any stipulations on what
- 25:14Speaker 7: you could spend on, what trips you could go. It's like, yeah,
- 25:17Speaker 7: I'm gonna revisit this in two years. You should have
- 25:19Speaker 7: x amounts saved up. I know how much you make
- 25:21Speaker 7: you know what I mean.
- 25:21Speaker 4: I just feel like it's a communication thing amongst black people.
- 25:24Speaker 4: I feel like older black people do not know how
- 25:26Speaker 4: to communicate with their children. Well, like you know, to
- 25:28Speaker 4: the point that was being made about, like you said,
- 25:30Speaker 4: if you if your grandmam needs something, YO, just let
- 25:32Speaker 4: me know. But to make the claim that like oh,
- 25:36Speaker 4: you just gotta pay me for whatever reason they put.
- 25:38Speaker 4: If you weren't struggling this whole time, then why do
- 25:40Speaker 4: you imagically need to check or just admit that, yes,
- 25:43Speaker 4: times are hard, so if you could help, like can
- 25:46Speaker 4: you help? And that's a different way to frame it,
- 25:48Speaker 4: but it shouldn't be you're eighteen years old. Now you're
- 25:51Speaker 4: a grown man or you're a grown woman. You need
- 25:52Speaker 4: to start paying now that you have a job, because
- 25:54Speaker 4: like you know, it ain't that just say you behind
- 25:56Speaker 4: on the bills, maybe signs a little higher than a
- 25:58Speaker 4: month you expected it to be a little bags of money.
- 26:01Speaker 4: Then I'll be more, you know, at least open to helping.
- 26:03Speaker 4: But you just framing It's all about communication and how
- 26:06Speaker 4: they frame it. Yeah, like I completely agree to that.
- 26:08Speaker 7: Be honest, that you ain't managing your cash.
- 26:09Speaker 3: Flowright, you not managing yours? And now you're trying to
- 26:12Speaker 3: take for me. Now what if I quit this job tomorrow?
- 26:14Speaker 3: Then who are you gonna talk to? Who you want
- 26:16Speaker 3: to ask? But then also I definitely agree on that.
- 26:20Speaker 3: But one thing my mom taught me when I was young.
- 26:22Speaker 3: I got my first phone when I was like thirteen fourteen,
- 26:25Speaker 3: But I also had my first job. She she used
- 26:27Speaker 3: to make me buy the phone and then also pay
- 26:29Speaker 3: the bill. And at first I'm like what, but that
- 26:33Speaker 3: she's just like, one, you want to take care of
- 26:35Speaker 3: it because you paid for it. But she's also like,
- 26:37Speaker 3: I need to teach you how to pay a bill.
- 26:39Speaker 3: I need to teach you some structure and some discipline. So,
- 26:41Speaker 3: like I said, like, there was some good and some
- 26:43Speaker 3: bad in that. As far as the rent, paying rent
- 26:45Speaker 3: since I was fourteen on the house, it's crazy work.
- 26:47Speaker 3: I would never do it to my kids. But am
- 26:50Speaker 3: I grateful that she may me pay my own phone bill?
- 26:52Speaker 3: Was I grateful that she told me take care of
- 26:54Speaker 3: that light bill? Was that grateful that she told me
- 26:56Speaker 3: how to do certain things? Absolutely? I think that they're
- 26:59Speaker 3: like again commune unication and then also teaching structure. I'm
- 27:01Speaker 3: not gonna try my child, but am I gonna put
- 27:04Speaker 3: Maybe I wouldn't put a bill in her name per se,
- 27:08Speaker 3: that isn't just pertaining to her, because if anything ever
- 27:11Speaker 3: fell off as a result of me on that bill,
- 27:14Speaker 3: like a light beilt, but it's in your name, but
- 27:16Speaker 3: I forgot to pay it, then that screws you over
- 27:18Speaker 3: credit wise. I wouldn't do that. But am I gonna
- 27:20Speaker 3: make your phone bill and your name absolutely that cardinal
- 27:23Speaker 3: and your name absolutely like certain things because I want
- 27:26Speaker 3: to teach you the structure because at the end of
- 27:27Speaker 3: the day, like, yeah, I commend you on being the
- 27:29Speaker 3: good father and being the provider that you are. Kudos
- 27:32Speaker 3: to you because crappy dad's out there, but you teaching
- 27:36Speaker 3: them structure, Like there's some balance in that where you
- 27:39Speaker 3: could pay your own phone bill. You can pay your
- 27:41Speaker 3: own cardinal, even though you know if she ever slipped up,
- 27:43Speaker 3: Daddy got you. But like, I'm gonna teach you to
- 27:46Speaker 3: be smart about your money.
- 27:47Speaker 5: I know one thing, she spoiled bro So that's why
- 27:52Speaker 5: I'm yeah, she's spoiled broke, and I just know I'm
- 27:57Speaker 5: covering up this stide. It's this rip is crazy. Now.
- 28:00Speaker 5: I know how women feel with wardrobe malfunctions, and.
- 28:04Speaker 8: You know you're not wearing those to the curb.
- 28:07Speaker 5: I can't go outside with this split in my Jorks.
- 28:11Speaker 3: But it's crazy.
- 28:14Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I was just saying she's spoiled, and so
- 28:17Speaker 5: I just know that if my mom was to tell
- 28:20Speaker 5: her that five hundred, even if we plan to put
- 28:23Speaker 5: it away for her, she will hold that resentment forever
- 28:27Speaker 5: bro until we gave it to do it honestly, And
- 28:30Speaker 5: that's what I keep thinking about, Like you would really
- 28:33Speaker 5: feel a way, Yeah, but.
- 28:34Speaker 3: Don't frame it as I think there's certain words that
- 28:37Speaker 3: are triggers to people. Remember we had this conversation, like
- 28:40Speaker 3: the word obedient, like don't tell me to be obedient.
- 28:42Speaker 3: That's the one way, Like you might get your ship
- 28:44Speaker 3: rocked for that, Like I'm not a puppy. However, there's
- 28:47Speaker 3: a way that you can frame it, like listen, you're
- 28:50Speaker 3: twenty five and I'm very proud of you. You're a
- 28:53Speaker 3: college graduate, you have a great job, you're doing amazing things.
- 28:57Speaker 3: Now it's time for us to start setting you up financially,
- 28:59Speaker 3: because unfortunately, this is not how you're forever should look.
- 29:03Speaker 3: You should be able to have your own So this
- 29:06Speaker 3: is what we are going to do. We're gonna open
- 29:08Speaker 3: up that Soufi account with that two percent increase that
- 29:14Speaker 3: comes with you putting money in. So you could do
- 29:16Speaker 3: it one or two ways. You could either have a
- 29:19Speaker 3: certain amount of money come out of your check every
- 29:21Speaker 3: month to go into this savings account, or you can
- 29:24Speaker 3: give it to us and we can put it in
- 29:26Speaker 3: a savings account for you. But it's time for us
- 29:28Speaker 3: to start building your savings. And it's important because you
- 29:32Speaker 3: are twenty five, twenty three.
- 29:35Speaker 5: But she just spends it.
- 29:36Speaker 3: But that's and that's why it cannot be something that
- 29:39Speaker 3: is easily or readily accessible, because when you spend frivolously,
- 29:44Speaker 3: the minute that you want to do something that are
- 29:46Speaker 3: outside of your means, the first thing you do is
- 29:48Speaker 3: going to your savings. So this is a conversation about
- 29:51Speaker 3: you are a full grown adult. This is what's going
- 29:54Speaker 3: to happen because we're setting you up for success. Not
- 29:58Speaker 3: I need you to start paying rent now. I need
- 30:00Speaker 3: you to start paying a bill now at twenty five
- 30:01Speaker 3: and I never had to do it before. Yeah, I'm
- 30:03Speaker 3: gonna take that a little bit tough too, Like yo,
- 30:04Speaker 3: are your niggas? Okay? You just have to frame it
- 30:07Speaker 3: the right way and have the conversation and let her
- 30:10Speaker 3: know that this is not this is not an open discussion.
- 30:14Speaker 3: This is the elders of your life. We're telling you,
- 30:16Speaker 3: this is how you're gonna set yourself up for success.
- 30:18Speaker 3: If you haven't thought about this before, this is the
- 30:21Speaker 3: reason why we are here. We're gonna set you up
- 30:23Speaker 3: for they look spaced out.
- 30:24Speaker 5: You're good, bro, I'm sure you disagree with what she's said. No,
- 30:30Speaker 5: not at all. Trump close yourself. What do you think?
- 30:33Speaker 5: I agree with everything that dark said.
- 30:34Speaker 7: The only thing I would add is instead of putting
- 30:36Speaker 7: the money in the savings, put it in like compounding interest.
- 30:40Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, either way, something like that.
- 30:42Speaker 3: And I think if you teach her like what you're
- 30:45Speaker 3: doing rather than the rent, because that's what we're do
- 30:47Speaker 3: in the black community, rather than saying that, because the
- 30:49Speaker 3: reality is, it's not going to write I want you
- 30:52Speaker 3: to have a savings account because if ever I'll put
- 30:54Speaker 3: you out or if anything ever happens, put you out
- 30:58Speaker 3: as crazy. But the reality is that people do switch up.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Like let's be honest, like it happens, Like be first,
- 31:04Speaker 3: I was actually put out out of my house after
- 31:07Speaker 3: argument that I did. Absolutely, But like reality is, it
- 31:11Speaker 3: can happen. If you set her up. I feel like
- 31:13Speaker 3: she's more open because now it feels like you're protecting me,
- 31:17Speaker 3: and you know what I mean. Now, I feel like
- 31:18Speaker 3: that you know me. He wants me to put it
- 31:20Speaker 3: in a savings account and maybe allow her to start
- 31:24Speaker 3: with the number. So maybe she can tell you the
- 31:26Speaker 3: first number and later on you can increase it because
- 31:28Speaker 3: she already has a trust, You have a bond, You
- 31:30Speaker 3: have an understanding. But I think people disagree because of
- 31:32Speaker 3: lack of knowledge. So if you just tell me, explain
- 31:35Speaker 3: what a raw diry is, Explain the point, Explain the risk,
- 31:38Speaker 3: Explain all this stuff of not having a savings account
- 31:41Speaker 3: and not having this, and then also show her you
- 31:44Speaker 3: have a savings account, open it right now, show me
- 31:46Speaker 3: what you got. It should be the same exact amount,
- 31:49Speaker 3: but it's not because you dip into it. So let
- 31:51Speaker 3: me help structure you so that way you can own
- 31:53Speaker 3: the house and when your kids come, you don't gotta
- 31:56Speaker 3: charge your rent. Like it's about how you communicate it,
- 32:00Speaker 3: and it's okay, and I feel like she'll be very
- 32:02Speaker 3: open to it. And you could start, Oh, two fifty
- 32:04Speaker 3: a month, you make four thousand a month. Two fifty
- 32:07Speaker 3: is nothing to you. You spend more than that on
- 32:09Speaker 3: a bag. Next three months, five hundred a month, This
- 32:12Speaker 3: hundred a month, and celebrate the small ones. Oh next month. Oh,
- 32:17Speaker 3: in six months, you'll have five thousand dollars. I'm proud
- 32:19Speaker 3: of you. That's increased, that cause.
- 32:21Speaker 5: More money you have.
- 32:22Speaker 3: When you start seeing more money, you're like, ooh, I'm
- 32:23Speaker 3: really doing that. Like when I started saving a few
- 32:26Speaker 3: years ago, I was doing it on to a four
- 32:27Speaker 3: one K. I was saving ten percent of my check.
- 32:30Speaker 3: Nine months into my four one K opening, I have
- 32:32Speaker 3: fifteen thousand dollars in it. I was proud of hell.
- 32:35Speaker 3: But when I first opened it and they was taking
- 32:36Speaker 3: ten percent and I was working crazy house, I'm not
- 32:38Speaker 3: hold on. I got back. But when I seen that
- 32:42Speaker 3: fifteen thousand and I ran into an emergency where my
- 32:44Speaker 3: father passed and nobody in my family had money for
- 32:47Speaker 3: the casket. Guess who had it cause I had the
- 32:49Speaker 3: full one campter dip into, pull it out, and then
- 32:51Speaker 3: be able to steal repln it. But if nobody taught
- 32:54Speaker 3: me about that, which it was a partner that taught
- 32:56Speaker 3: me about it, But like you know, somebody taught me.
- 32:58Speaker 3: Now I always teaching my partners like that.
- 33:01Speaker 5: It's a part of.
- 33:04Speaker 4: Okay, I'm about a pivot because I didn't want to
- 33:07Speaker 4: add a point real quick. This is really bad because
- 33:13Speaker 4: I don't know if it's just me and the trauma
- 33:14Speaker 4: I went through my life, but I feel like a
- 33:16Speaker 4: lot of kids nowadays are should be kind of raised on.
- 33:19Speaker 6: Survival and hear me out before they try to killing
- 33:22Speaker 6: no cap.
- 33:22Speaker 4: I feel like I live my life saying if I'm luckily,
- 33:25Speaker 4: you know, I'm lucky in my life that have my
- 33:26Speaker 4: mom and my dad, they both alive and well. But
- 33:28Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people live with the
- 33:29Speaker 4: luxury you're thinking, once again, your parents live forever. Every
- 33:32Speaker 4: day I wake up, I tell myself, if my parents
- 33:34Speaker 4: are the droped tomorrow, how am I gonna be able
- 33:35Speaker 4: to you know, pay put a roof over my head,
- 33:37Speaker 4: pay my bills, et cetera, et cetera. And that is
- 33:39Speaker 4: what gives me to drive to make sure I got
- 33:40Speaker 4: to get up and get to it every single day.
- 33:42Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people nowadays they don't
- 33:44Speaker 4: get up with that mentality, and because life is so
- 33:47Speaker 4: comfy and cozy that you get up thinking every day
- 33:49Speaker 4: is just gonna be My parents are going to be here,
- 33:51Speaker 4: and you know, I have the luxury of being taken
- 33:53Speaker 4: care of all the time.
- 33:54Speaker 6: Life is not going to be like that. It's not
- 33:55Speaker 6: going to be like that forever.
- 33:56Speaker 4: So you should be waking up every day at your
- 33:58Speaker 4: big age, when you're an adult to say, I need
- 34:00Speaker 4: to save money because I need to be self sufficient
- 34:02Speaker 4: for myself, and that's it.
- 34:05Speaker 5: That goes into the whole hard parent what's it called
- 34:09Speaker 5: hard parenting, creation parenting and stuff that name. Yeah, so
- 34:15Speaker 5: I kind of agree with him, though I know you
- 34:18Speaker 5: I do. I mean, I just feel like, yo, your
- 34:21Speaker 5: kid needs to know how to take care of themselves
- 34:24Speaker 5: and how to build, and while you're doing everything for
- 34:27Speaker 5: them and everything. That's what that goes into what I
- 34:28Speaker 5: was saying. They're not thinking about that. They're not thinking
- 34:32Speaker 5: about it. And you know, with our in our community,
- 34:36Speaker 5: we need to raise motherfuckers that can help build.
- 34:38Speaker 3: We need builders, not takers, because right now you have
- 34:41Speaker 3: a bunch of takers.
- 34:42Speaker 7: I have a different opinion. Everything I think comes with balance.
- 34:46Speaker 7: So I do agree with y'all in some part. But
- 34:48Speaker 7: the balance for me is that the kids should have
- 34:52Speaker 7: somewhat of a luxury where they're not living like it's
- 34:56Speaker 7: a different mentality when you're living check to check and
- 34:58Speaker 7: your existence is based on of of I need to
- 35:00Speaker 7: make money this week. So now your decisions are not
- 35:03Speaker 7: as long term, so you're not setting yourself up and
- 35:06Speaker 7: your future up the way that you could you're not
- 35:09Speaker 7: being as creative. You're not tapping into different things that
- 35:13Speaker 7: other folks have the luxury to tap into, whether it
- 35:16Speaker 7: be passion projects, whether it be creative, whether it be philanthropy.
- 35:21Speaker 7: You know, sometimes see white folks that come from, you know,
- 35:26Speaker 7: strong financial backgrounds, and they're like twenty two years old
- 35:30Speaker 7: and they're working for nonprofits and they're not worried about
- 35:34Speaker 7: their income as much as that we're worrying about making
- 35:37Speaker 7: a difference in the world and being impactful and doing
- 35:40Speaker 7: things that are progressive. So I think that's a luxury
- 35:44Speaker 7: that I would like for my kids to have. But
- 35:46Speaker 7: I do understand the balance, you know what I mean,
- 35:48Speaker 7: It's definitely a balance. You have to also understand that,
- 35:51Speaker 7: you know, money is important and you have to know
- 35:53Speaker 7: how to manage it. But yeah, there's something about not
- 35:57Speaker 7: having to live check to check that gives you the
- 35:58Speaker 7: freedom to make better the decisions.
- 36:01Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that that is what we should
- 36:03Speaker 3: all want for our children. I think that wanting your
- 36:07Speaker 3: kids to to turn out better than you and have
- 36:10Speaker 3: different experiences and experiences that you didn't necessarily have is
- 36:14Speaker 3: really important. And for me, like that's my driving force
- 36:17Speaker 3: every day, just to make sure that Parker grows up
- 36:19Speaker 3: and she does not like my life needs to be
- 36:24Speaker 3: like a bedtime story, not a reality. If that makes sense.
- 36:28Speaker 5: All right, the fucking Nicks. I'm crying, your mother, I am.
- 36:39Speaker 5: I am scared, happy for the Knicks. I am terrified.
- 36:47Speaker 5: I am traumatized. I do not want to speak on
- 36:51Speaker 5: this too much because I've been through a lot.
- 36:55Speaker 3: We will trauma about everybody feels this way, like deep down,
- 36:58Speaker 3: like I don't even watch the fourth quarter of games
- 37:01Speaker 3: no matter because I'm scared. I'd rather wake up in
- 37:03Speaker 3: the morning.
- 37:04Speaker 5: And know wake up in the morning to.
- 37:08Speaker 1: You.
- 37:08Speaker 5: Are you rooting for the Knicks?
- 37:09Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 37:11Speaker 6: Because I said that, I literally said the same thing.
- 37:14Speaker 4: I said, Bro, you have to keep our voices down
- 37:15Speaker 4: because I just feel like you can't get yourself hyped.
- 37:17Speaker 6: Bro, Like we get it's just.
- 37:19Speaker 5: Like, are you rooting for the Knicks? Okay? Cool? Is
- 37:23Speaker 5: there anybody hearing that lives in New York that is
- 37:26Speaker 5: not rooting for the Knicks?
- 37:30Speaker 6: Behind the screen over here, the calves go somewhere.
- 37:37Speaker 3: I'm I'm weare.
- 37:42Speaker 2: The man.
- 37:44Speaker 5: Speaking is my cousin, and he is rooting for Oklahoma City.
- 37:51Speaker 8: I have been since two thousand and nine.
- 37:53Speaker 5: Town is so crazy. That is in the champ That
- 37:56Speaker 5: is it is very close, one game away from being
- 38:00Speaker 5: in the championship, very close.
- 38:01Speaker 8: I picked the Pistons to go to the finals.
- 38:03Speaker 3: To know the Knicks, Baby, the Knicks is one one
- 38:06Speaker 3: game away from being in the championships. Y'all want it
- 38:09Speaker 3: so bad.
- 38:09Speaker 5: I'm the vote vote so yes, vote fan.
- 38:13Speaker 7: But you don't want to see the Knicks make it
- 38:15Speaker 7: to the finals.
- 38:15Speaker 8: No, I don't have a problem with the Knicks. As
- 38:17Speaker 8: soon as the sooner, as soon as the Cavs were
- 38:18Speaker 8: going to the Cars Finals, I knew the Knicks were
- 38:20Speaker 8: going to win, So I called the Nick. I wanted
- 38:23Speaker 8: the Pistons, But do you want them to win the finals?
- 38:25Speaker 8: Not against Oklahoma City?
- 38:26Speaker 5: No conference room?
- 38:28Speaker 8: Yes, hell yeah, I don't want to see the Cavaliers
- 38:30Speaker 8: in the finals. He wants Were you guy or you
- 38:34Speaker 8: just like SGA since two thousand and nine?
- 38:36Speaker 6: All right, at least i'll give you that.
- 38:37Speaker 3: You can't give him nothing.
- 38:38Speaker 7: Are you a Knicks hater or you just prefer okay?
- 38:42Speaker 8: See, no, I just I don't hate the Knicks. It's
- 38:44Speaker 8: just the Knicks just wasn't winning. So that's why you know,
- 38:46Speaker 8: I used to have jokes, but I don't hate the Knicks.
- 38:49Speaker 3: So so because we weren't winning, you left the organ No.
- 38:55Speaker 8: The organization was let's go. The organization was ran like ship.
- 39:00Speaker 5: So you leave. That's the fact.
- 39:02Speaker 3: Go to the what You couldn't find another team on
- 39:05Speaker 3: the East.
- 39:05Speaker 8: Hold the nets?
- 39:07Speaker 5: You can't.
- 39:08Speaker 8: Philadelphia seventy six is you can't. Dare I not say
- 39:16Speaker 8: the Boston Celtics.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Listen, listen, listen. I will tell you.
- 39:19Speaker 5: I will.
- 39:20Speaker 3: I'll tell you a joke, but I never tell you
- 39:21Speaker 3: a lie. And we'll tell you something. When Kevin Garnet
- 39:25Speaker 3: was on the Boston Celtics, that was the toughest years
- 39:27Speaker 3: of my life because I love KG with my heart
- 39:31Speaker 3: and my soul, and it was so hard for me
- 39:34Speaker 3: as a New Yorker because however, Kevin Garnet, there's a
- 39:42Speaker 3: there's a piece of my heart. I had a KG
- 39:45Speaker 3: shirt was on the I had and I used to
- 39:50Speaker 3: get my ass handed to me in Benjamin Bannicut Academy.
- 39:54Speaker 3: They was on my ass and I would never I could.
- 39:57Speaker 3: I'm a Kevin Garnett fan, like it's big fuck Boston.
- 40:01Speaker 3: But when KG was there, he was there. I say
- 40:04Speaker 3: that to say New York over everybody.
- 40:07Speaker 5: It's got to be how you live here in this
- 40:11Speaker 5: moment right now, we have not won a chip in
- 40:14Speaker 5: fifty three years.
- 40:16Speaker 8: My team just wanted to three.
- 40:19Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 40:19Speaker 8: I don't know what you're talking about.
- 40:21Speaker 3: You know, I don't understand yesterday.
- 40:23Speaker 5: I can't understand yesterday.
- 40:24Speaker 8: Actually, y'all learn not actually a real basketball fan. So
- 40:28Speaker 8: this one, I'm like, I don't even know what y'all
- 40:29Speaker 8: talking about. I actually I am a real basketball fan.
- 40:32Speaker 5: So what's wrong crazy?
- 40:34Speaker 3: I'm a real basketball fan.
- 40:36Speaker 8: So that means what that means that I can go
- 40:38Speaker 8: for whoever I want. I actually watched basketball and have
- 40:42Speaker 8: been for teen years.
- 40:44Speaker 3: So you think that you don't only want what you
- 40:46Speaker 3: say that to say?
- 40:47Speaker 2: What? Like?
- 40:47Speaker 3: What's the what were we saying saying?
- 40:50Speaker 8: I don't know, I think I can have I think
- 40:54Speaker 8: I can have that.
- 40:56Speaker 6: Y'all might not make the finals either, you respect what's
- 41:00Speaker 6: right now?
- 41:01Speaker 3: One right now, I hope your team lose just for
- 41:04Speaker 3: the way that you acting, because why would you do that?
- 41:07Speaker 1: No?
- 41:07Speaker 8: See, I'm not hating on I'm not wishing like what's
- 41:10Speaker 8: really good with you?
- 41:10Speaker 5: Bro?
- 41:11Speaker 8: I'm just saying we won last year, so it's all right.
- 41:13Speaker 5: Shout out to that, shout out to that. But a
- 41:16Speaker 5: lot of big was in the championship last year or
- 41:18Speaker 5: in the runners last year. So I'm happy you was happy.
- 41:21Speaker 5: I'm happy. I just feel like right now in this moment,
- 41:25Speaker 5: I'm happy for them.
- 41:26Speaker 6: To tell your cousin you got to stay home if
- 41:27Speaker 6: we win the check.
- 41:28Speaker 1: I'm coming definitely.
- 41:31Speaker 8: Doing someone the grill.
- 41:33Speaker 3: Sure he's not invited for who's doing well.
- 41:35Speaker 5: He seasons the food, so that should looks good. There's
- 41:41Speaker 5: a young lady that does have a problem with the Knicks.
- 41:44Speaker 5: Oh god, he's telling.
- 41:46Speaker 9: Me that he can't come because you got invite the
- 41:49Speaker 9: last day to take us to the next game because
- 41:51Speaker 9: it's playing off season. I'm already here at the restaurant.
- 41:58Speaker 9: You're not coming Nicks. Yeah, I'm so confused.
- 42:03Speaker 5: I I'm so you're standing up.
- 42:07Speaker 1: You're standing me up for the Knicks.
- 42:09Speaker 9: Yes, Knicks tickets because they invited you.
- 42:12Speaker 5: Lass minute.
- 42:13Speaker 3: What the something I gotta do with me?
- 42:14Speaker 6: We made?
- 42:15Speaker 1: I'm already dressed and here, poor.
- 42:22Speaker 3: Baby, like for somebody that y'all know how I feel
- 42:26Speaker 3: about ship like that, I could, I could. I your son,
- 42:29Speaker 3: I know I there's a difference between like the girl
- 42:34Speaker 3: me and the New Yorker me. Like the New York
- 42:38Speaker 3: and me, I yo, I feel homie like and that
- 42:41Speaker 3: is a that is an experience of a lifetime, Like
- 42:44Speaker 3: You're not gonna remember this random little date, but I'm
- 42:48Speaker 3: gonna remember going to see the Knicks in the playoffs
- 42:53Speaker 3: with my boys. Like that's something that's that that's deep
- 42:55Speaker 3: to me. You feel me, But like the girl me,
- 42:58Speaker 3: I'm like, damn surety, Like that is really messed up,
- 43:01Speaker 3: and I feel bad for you. However, I'm sorry, like.
- 43:08Speaker 5: To not go to the playoff game, Like that's crazy.
- 43:10Speaker 3: Bro, I would leave my family for the playoff game,
- 43:13Speaker 3: like if like, like if if I had to go
- 43:15Speaker 3: between one of my kids games and somebody invited me
- 43:18Speaker 3: to a Nick playoff game.
- 43:21Speaker 8: Maybe So if you was on if you're going on
- 43:24Speaker 8: a date with somebody and there was the same thing happened,
- 43:26Speaker 8: you will go to the Nick game and leave the date.
- 43:28Speaker 3: Absolutely so.
- 43:30Speaker 8: But but just that, but hold on, hold on, hold on,
- 43:33Speaker 8: hold on, one second, one second, hold on, guys.
- 43:35Speaker 3: Goha mm hmm.
- 43:37Speaker 8: I think that's interesting that you said that because you
- 43:39Speaker 8: were the same person that just said that.
- 43:41Speaker 5: No, no, no, I got it.
- 43:43Speaker 8: But you're the same person that said that if you
- 43:45Speaker 8: were going to date with somebody and they had to
- 43:48Speaker 8: push the plans back to like, you know, assist their
- 43:50Speaker 8: parents or something, you said that that was just.
- 43:52Speaker 3: Because that's not that's not an emergency. That's not that's
- 43:54Speaker 3: not the same taking your mother emergency store versus a
- 44:00Speaker 3: playoff game. Yes, the Knicks are an emergency. Yes, absolutely,
- 44:02Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
- 44:03Speaker 5: I want to.
- 44:04Speaker 3: I just want to know what the science was, like,
- 44:05Speaker 3: I just want you to also understand, like like like
- 44:08Speaker 3: when it comes to certain things, got them, my ethics
- 44:12Speaker 3: go out the window. I'm so sorry.
- 44:13Speaker 5: It is what it is.
- 44:14Speaker 3: I'm always gonna be honest about my ship. So yes,
- 44:16Speaker 3: I know what I've said, I know how I feel. However,
- 44:21Speaker 3: I said what I said. I would go to that
- 44:23Speaker 3: next game, absolutely, message I do.
- 44:26Speaker 7: To, and I think it would go you know, both ways,
- 44:29Speaker 7: like whatever. The equivalent for a k next ticket playoff
- 44:33Speaker 7: ticket is for her backstage at Beyonce concert or some shit.
- 44:36Speaker 3: Oh yeah you're ahead, Yeah you're out of here.
- 44:39Speaker 5: It's a first date, right, I don't know.
- 44:41Speaker 3: First of all, it don't even matter. It could be
- 44:43Speaker 3: the third day, it don't even matter because if it's
- 44:45Speaker 3: not a first date, like I will have flowers waiting
- 44:48Speaker 3: for you at your doorstep, shorty, Like I'm so sorry,
- 44:51Speaker 3: but I need to be here. If it is a
- 44:52Speaker 3: first date, I'm gonna meet a bitch at the game.
- 44:55Speaker 7: Either way, it's okay because either we dating and we
- 44:57Speaker 7: have some type of understanding and you're gonna understand it,
- 45:00Speaker 7: or I don't.
- 45:00Speaker 3: Know you like that certain things I understand.
- 45:03Speaker 9: Well. Yeah.
- 45:03Speaker 5: There was a question that was asked on the internet
- 45:06Speaker 5: yesterday by Joe Budden's I want to say manager whatever
- 45:11Speaker 5: it may be, right, I've never heard that. Fine, I've
- 45:17Speaker 5: heard a sound, but whatever, and his work closely with
- 45:22Speaker 5: Joe on his rise to success, right, very closely. I
- 45:25Speaker 5: remember hearing his name for years with their you know,
- 45:29Speaker 5: doing whatever they're doing. He acts on the internet as
- 45:32Speaker 5: a serious podcast and content creator. Would you rather take
- 45:36Speaker 5: one hundred thousand dollars cash or a series of meetings
- 45:39Speaker 5: with Joe?
- 45:40Speaker 1: And I what.
- 45:44Speaker 3: One hundred thousand cash meetings with y'all?
- 45:46Speaker 8: I take the fine and K one hundred one hundred
- 45:49Speaker 8: that's the drink, that's the Drake line.
- 45:52Speaker 4: If you actually watched their platform. They gave you the blueprint,
- 45:55Speaker 4: so there's nothing for us to talk about. Yeah, personally,
- 45:58Speaker 4: like y'all literally gave the blueprint. Ian made a podcast
- 46:01Speaker 4: talking about how however much they have. He's like, if
- 46:03Speaker 4: you take ten percent of your Patreon earnings depending on
- 46:07Speaker 4: how much you know, how much you make. I was like, Bro,
- 46:10Speaker 4: you're thtirty Bro's And that's how they literally modeled their
- 46:12Speaker 4: whole business thing off of Bro. That's when they stopped
- 46:14Speaker 4: doing the Spotify shit because he was like, Yo, all
- 46:16Speaker 4: we need is ten percent of our following that watches
- 46:18Speaker 4: them on YouTube to describe the Patreon and that's it.
- 46:21Speaker 4: After that they run, you know, obviously the regular merch
- 46:23Speaker 4: live shows. They gave the game out, so how no
- 46:25Speaker 4: give me a K.
- 46:26Speaker 7: For sure, there is more, there is more to gain
- 46:28Speaker 7: from personal relationships. But the best response to this I
- 46:31Speaker 7: heard this response to the jay z Verse five hundred
- 46:33Speaker 7: K combo, and if you are somewhat in a very
- 46:40Speaker 7: stable financial situation, then you take the meeting because you
- 46:43Speaker 7: already got the bread one hundred k as much to
- 46:44Speaker 7: you if you're a multimillionaire, and now the meetings, Now
- 46:49Speaker 7: that's relationships, that's game. That could increase your net worth
- 46:52Speaker 7: times ten.
- 46:53Speaker 5: Right.
- 46:54Speaker 7: Things that you may not get from a podcast interview.
- 46:56Speaker 7: You're talking about in person meetings, relationships, things of that nature.
- 47:00Speaker 7: But for the majority of us, for most people, where
- 47:02Speaker 7: one hundred k is a big deal, you could use
- 47:04Speaker 7: that to invest in yourself.
- 47:06Speaker 5: Take the one hundred k. I'm taking the meetings each
- 47:09Speaker 5: and every time right now where I'm at. But you
- 47:12Speaker 5: don't need to break right right right now where I'm at.
- 47:15Speaker 5: This young man came in here and said he does
- 47:19Speaker 5: not have a discord.
- 47:20Speaker 7: Right.
- 47:20Speaker 5: This young man came in here, This young lady came
- 47:23Speaker 5: in here and said, you have to show him what
- 47:26Speaker 5: you know right right. What In and Joe have done
- 47:33Speaker 5: in the podcast space is learn how to value evaluate
- 47:37Speaker 5: your show, learn how to assess the market as to
- 47:42Speaker 5: how you can leverage your your following your listens to say,
- 47:48Speaker 5: like say I get an offer from an AD company
- 47:50Speaker 5: right now, and they're like, yo, we'll give you ten thousand,
- 47:54Speaker 5: and I know the business, I know the landscape. Thinking
- 47:57Speaker 5: you know, dann Well, I'm worth thirty five, They're gonna
- 48:01Speaker 5: offer you something. But being if you don't really know
- 48:03Speaker 5: the worth of your shit, right then Ian and Joe.
- 48:08Speaker 5: They went in and they went for meetings. They went
- 48:14Speaker 5: to meetings with Spotify, they went to meetings with Patreon.
- 48:16Speaker 5: I don't know how to do that. I don't know
- 48:18Speaker 5: what they're telling people. I don't know how to get
- 48:20Speaker 5: those deals. There's a million things as a serious content creator,
- 48:25Speaker 5: people who are in this industry that are successful, and
- 48:29Speaker 5: I want to be really one of the people that
- 48:31Speaker 5: pioneered this shit. Hell yeah, I want to sit in
- 48:34Speaker 5: with them. You know how much money I spun on
- 48:36Speaker 5: these cameras. You know how much money we've spent on
- 48:38Speaker 5: this brand over the court. I'm at the ceiling of
- 48:41Speaker 5: my knowledge. I need people to help me get to
- 48:43Speaker 5: that next level. That buck, You're right, I don't. I'm
- 48:47Speaker 5: in a really great financial space, so I cannot speak
- 48:51Speaker 5: for the average person one hundred thousand. They're not just
- 48:54Speaker 5: turned out. I don't give a fuck about a buck
- 48:56Speaker 5: right now, because I know the right business deal is
- 49:00Speaker 5: bringing me two mil three mil me personally right now,
- 49:03Speaker 5: the right businessman when I say, hey, look at my
- 49:06Speaker 5: following over here, look at my following over there, I
- 49:07Speaker 5: got several shows, studio whatever, it may be, the right
- 49:10Speaker 5: business deal for me changes everybody life.
- 49:14Speaker 7: For you, I would say yeah, because, like, like you
- 49:17Speaker 7: pointed out, you're financially okay, one hundred k, you got that,
- 49:20Speaker 7: no money? So but for the average person, right, So,
- 49:25Speaker 7: but I will say this, and this is this is
- 49:27Speaker 7: a huge assumption that they're gonna share everything that you
- 49:32Speaker 7: need them to share at this meeting, or you're gonna
- 49:35Speaker 7: have such a great relationship that they're gonna collaborate with
- 49:38Speaker 7: you and things like.
- 49:39Speaker 5: It's a risk.
- 49:40Speaker 7: It's a risk that you, Tahoe should take because you
- 49:43Speaker 7: already have one hundred k. But for people that don't
- 49:45Speaker 7: have one hundred k, that's a huge risk.
- 49:46Speaker 5: Now, jay five hundred thousand or a dinner with jay Z.
- 49:51Speaker 6: Four hundred thousand.
- 49:52Speaker 5: Again, every time, what the fuck jay Z gonna tell me?
- 49:56Speaker 5: That's worth half a million dollars? What are you gonna
- 49:58Speaker 5: tell me? You taking the MI the meeting with jay Z?
- 50:01Speaker 7: No, not right now, But if I was, ifre a
- 50:03Speaker 7: net worth of a few million, then I would take
- 50:05Speaker 7: the meeting with him because and I know it's a
- 50:07Speaker 7: roll of the dice, but now I'm already a millionaire,
- 50:10Speaker 7: and now I have business and leverage that I could
- 50:13Speaker 7: possibly go into business with him. I'm not even talking
- 50:17Speaker 7: about like advice. I'm talking about relationship, like where I
- 50:21Speaker 7: could potentially have a working relationship with jay Z and
- 50:26Speaker 7: his platforms ship.
- 50:28Speaker 5: If I'm worth like five ms, I'm gonna roll the dice.
- 50:30Speaker 5: You get a second opinion from home? Yo? Can you
- 50:33Speaker 5: stop quoting that? Yo? Are you good? You're right?
- 50:38Speaker 3: He's not a good person.
- 50:40Speaker 9: Yo.
- 50:40Speaker 6: Man, Yeah, I'm not.
- 50:42Speaker 4: I'm taking the bread of the tom Bro because, like
- 50:44Speaker 4: he said, you know you just unless I get an
- 50:46Speaker 4: outline of what we're gonna even talk about. And even
- 50:48Speaker 4: then I'm still probably gonna take the bread, but like
- 50:50Speaker 4: I need to know exactly what we were talking about.
- 50:52Speaker 4: Like I said, you could go pull him to the
- 50:53Speaker 4: table hole he's just want to finish his STA he done,
- 50:57Speaker 4: that he's gonna get up and leave JA.
- 50:58Speaker 5: He don't tweet, and that he don't shy no thoughts
- 51:00Speaker 5: like I don't know what this nime gonna do.
- 51:02Speaker 4: And on top of that too, people fail to realize
- 51:04Speaker 4: what works for somebody might not also work for you.
- 51:06Speaker 6: So even then, Joe could give you all the gems.
- 51:09Speaker 4: On how to do a podcast, but once again I cheated,
- 51:11Speaker 4: Just like relationship advice, what works for one person. Relationship
- 51:15Speaker 4: might not work for you. No person's business might not
- 51:19Speaker 4: work for your business.
- 51:20Speaker 5: But math and science is different. There is ways that
- 51:22Speaker 5: I can ask certain questions. How do you valuate your platform?
- 51:27Speaker 5: How do you know what your platform is worth? How
- 51:30Speaker 5: do you what's the language to get people to put
- 51:34Speaker 5: a check on the table, Like I don't know how
- 51:36Speaker 5: to walk into the buildings. I literally just be going
- 51:38Speaker 5: off and hoping. And I've made deals before. I remember
- 51:40Speaker 5: it was one time and yesterday. Can can attest to this.
- 51:47Speaker 5: We had a major brand deal and they offered me
- 51:50Speaker 5: three hundred and something dollars a month and I said, no,
- 51:55Speaker 5: I'm not doing that because I knew what we was
- 51:57Speaker 5: worked for one thing, right, And so they was like, well,
- 52:00Speaker 5: you know, based off of this and that, this is
- 52:02Speaker 5: what we're willing to do. Right. I went back. I
- 52:06Speaker 5: thought about it, and I said, well, if that's the case,
- 52:12Speaker 5: I would I would TikTok has one hundred and fifteen
- 52:16Speaker 5: thousand followers, Our Instagram has one hundred and fifteen something
- 52:19Speaker 5: like that thousand. Why not include the social media into
- 52:22Speaker 5: this deal and then come back and tell me what
- 52:24Speaker 5: that's worth. It came back with a deal in four figures, right,
- 52:30Speaker 5: I wouldn't have known that without the experience of the
- 52:33Speaker 5: game and listen to the show and them, I said,
- 52:35Speaker 5: with to God, listening to them and knowing how to
- 52:37Speaker 5: leverage certain shit in these meetings. I know there's more
- 52:41Speaker 5: than I need to know that nobody around me can
- 52:45Speaker 5: tell me.
- 52:46Speaker 6: But that's what I'm saying.
- 52:46Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it's how you because I'm not
- 52:49Speaker 4: gonna say I know everything, but that I would have
- 52:51Speaker 4: known to leverage if I had a meeting of such
- 52:53Speaker 4: source like And that's the main business one on one.
- 52:56Speaker 4: I'm obviously I'm never gonna take what I'm already making.
- 52:58Speaker 4: So if I make my podcast, let's use little numbers.
- 53:02Speaker 4: If I make five hundred dollars a month and your
- 53:03Speaker 4: brand offered me five hundred dollars, no, not taking it,
- 53:06Speaker 4: Like I make that on my own.
- 53:07Speaker 5: You gotta up it.
- 53:08Speaker 6: Every time.
- 53:10Speaker 7: I want to add this one piece of context. For
- 53:12Speaker 7: you to meet with Joe makes a lot of sense
- 53:14Speaker 7: because of your life.
- 53:15Speaker 5: I want to meet Ian, but I'm saying, Joe cool, right.
- 53:20Speaker 7: Because of your life as a podcast host, as a
- 53:24Speaker 7: content creator, and everything that you do is aligned with that.
- 53:27Speaker 7: And now you have also something that you could offer
- 53:30Speaker 7: to them, especially if they have a podcast network and
- 53:32Speaker 7: things of that nature. It's right up your lane. The
- 53:35Speaker 7: average person, I don't have any leverage or anything that
- 53:39Speaker 7: I can gain directly from Joe and Ian where.
- 53:42Speaker 5: I serious content? Right, okay? And and same thing with
- 53:47Speaker 5: the meeting with jay Z.
- 53:48Speaker 7: If you're somebody like a Larussell, Yo, give me a
- 53:52Speaker 7: meeting with jay Z because I have something that I
- 53:54Speaker 7: can leverage with it that I could you know, and
- 53:56Speaker 7: I know my ladship RIND could be worth multimillions.
- 54:00Speaker 5: Jalen, is there anybody out there right where that's this
- 54:07Speaker 5: number was on the table, say one hundred and twenty
- 54:09Speaker 5: five thousand dollars? I'm up it. But you would rather
- 54:12Speaker 5: that meeting with them or a series of meetings? A
- 54:16Speaker 5: series of meetings? And why?
- 54:20Speaker 1: Oh?
- 54:25Speaker 3: I think knowledge is important, So I can't think of
- 54:28Speaker 3: the person specifically that like, I'm like, yeah, I want
- 54:32Speaker 3: to absorb from you. But if it's the right person
- 54:35Speaker 3: on the path that I'm going, yeah I would. I
- 54:38Speaker 3: would definitely take the meeting because I care. I do
- 54:40Speaker 3: care about the knowledge. But at this financial state one
- 54:44Speaker 3: hundred thousand, I'm not gonna act like it, it doesn't
- 54:46Speaker 3: take me to a different place. I will also consider
- 54:50Speaker 3: whether or not what knowledge can you give me that
- 54:53Speaker 3: can also take me to that financial place or pass it.
- 54:57Speaker 5: It's gotta be passed.
- 54:58Speaker 3: Because reality is a a lot of people don't want
- 55:00Speaker 3: the meeting with jay Z because it's like what you
- 55:02Speaker 3: want to give me that I can't get on my own?
- 55:04Speaker 3: Or are you going to give me anything? So off
- 55:07Speaker 3: the top of my head because I'm like a baby creator.
- 55:11Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like I'm not like in it like y'all,
- 55:14Speaker 3: but like I'm a baby creator.
- 55:15Speaker 5: I didn't know what she was trying to say. I
- 55:21Speaker 5: was about to say, I'm really the baby creator, but
- 55:23Speaker 5: go ahead.
- 55:25Speaker 3: I'm small to I don't really do this do this
- 55:27Speaker 3: like big numbers and stuff, but I do enjoy it.
- 55:30Speaker 3: Off the top of my head, somebody that I do
- 55:33Speaker 3: think if somebody, okay, I'll say Tianna Taylor because I
- 55:37Speaker 3: like a flexibility that she can fit in whatever I
- 55:40Speaker 3: don't know the proper word, whatever field she steps into,
- 55:44Speaker 3: she's gonna fit and I would love to know how
- 55:46Speaker 3: to do that as like a person generally, but then
- 55:49Speaker 3: also on a business minds, from singing to acting to business,
- 55:52Speaker 3: to music to producing. I like the verse of her
- 55:57Speaker 3: say so when I take a meeting with her old
- 56:00Speaker 3: worth a few hundred thousand. Also because I believe that
- 56:02Speaker 3: having her being in the same rooms or her can
- 56:04Speaker 3: get me that money. Then yeah, same thing with Chris
- 56:07Speaker 3: Brown as well. I feel like you offered me something
- 56:09Speaker 3: that can help further me. If a person can't further me,
- 56:13Speaker 3: what am I having a meeting with you for? Because
- 56:15Speaker 3: I believe that me said what you could be the
- 56:17Speaker 3: same worth of me saying with jay Z you can
- 56:19Speaker 3: drop more gems me just saying with you versus me
- 56:22Speaker 3: said with jay Z, because jay Z could.
- 56:23Speaker 5: Just be like, oh, I don't know what to tell you,
- 56:25Speaker 5: and he isn't in mind for a buck twenty five
- 56:27Speaker 5: James like, what are you gonna tell me about party?
- 56:31Speaker 5: This's the thing.
- 56:32Speaker 7: So I wouldn't take the meeting with anybody based off
- 56:34Speaker 7: of the information they could give me. I would take
- 56:36Speaker 7: the information based off of the relationship I can possibly get. Yeah,
- 56:39Speaker 7: maybe I could work on the scene, Maybe I can
- 56:41Speaker 7: get a deal. Maybe you know, our internships, something where
- 56:45Speaker 7: I can really be hands on and multiply what I
- 56:49Speaker 7: can make times ten of what their initial offer was
- 56:52Speaker 7: you know what I mean? So instead of undred thousand,
- 56:54Speaker 7: I can make a million.
- 56:55Speaker 5: Is there anybody that you would take the meetings over
- 56:58Speaker 5: a buck twenty five?
- 57:01Speaker 4: I mean it's context. Yeah, I would take it either
- 57:03Speaker 4: Rogan or Joe if I had to pick somebody up.
- 57:05Speaker 4: But I'm always taking the bread. As far as podcasting, yeah,
- 57:09Speaker 4: Joe Rogan and Joe Budden, bro they are the blueprint.
- 57:12Speaker 4: I just think also too, it's all about what you
- 57:13Speaker 4: want out of podcasting. Like I say to myself all
- 57:15Speaker 4: the time, I hate my job, so I don't mind
- 57:17Speaker 4: being a person that signs to an iHeart or Spotify
- 57:20Speaker 4: and getting that bag. I remember, even during the Spotify
- 57:22Speaker 4: time and Joe Budden, academics is over there and academicis
- 57:25Speaker 4: is like Yo, my situation sturdy at Spotify, shout out
- 57:27Speaker 4: to Joe. I don't know what Joe got going on,
- 57:29Speaker 4: but my situation valid. So I think people get tied
- 57:32Speaker 4: up too much in being independent and worse the five
- 57:34Speaker 4: none to the best. A lot of people are flying
- 57:36Speaker 4: for their masters, but when your masters have no value
- 57:38Speaker 4: on one hundred percent of nothing, So I think people
- 57:41Speaker 4: need to start being aware. Once again, every platform is
- 57:43Speaker 4: different and it depends what you guys want. Like you know,
- 57:45Speaker 4: you can probably answer this after the fact what you
- 57:48Speaker 4: would like for your podcast. For me, I would just
- 57:50Speaker 4: like to be able to live off for my podcast,
- 57:51Speaker 4: take care of my peoples off my podcast. So if
- 57:53Speaker 4: that comes in the form of being independent, where whether
- 57:55Speaker 4: people subscribe to my Patreon or YouTube premium or mean
- 57:58Speaker 4: YouTube membership, or that comes in the form, like I said,
- 58:00Speaker 4: getting signed by iHeart or Spotify, whatever way that comes,
- 58:03Speaker 4: I'm cool with either or outcome. But I know some
- 58:05Speaker 4: people are dead set on no, I want to be independent,
- 58:07Speaker 4: which is cool, but different structure, different folks.
- 58:09Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm not find what works for you. I
- 58:16Speaker 5: I'm not more so so Jay Jay. I'm very big
- 58:19Speaker 5: on the Jay influence that right and being your own boss.
- 58:23Speaker 5: I am right, I am. I wouldmit that, but I
- 58:26Speaker 5: put in a lot of work, were putting a lot
- 58:28Speaker 5: of sweat equity. I'm not selling that for if she
- 58:32Speaker 5: can't get a bag, super bad. If this nigga can't,
- 58:36Speaker 5: it can't be worth it. To this nigga, it can't be.
- 58:38Speaker 5: It gotta be worth it, And I'm not selling it.
- 58:41Speaker 5: If I know they're getting the bag and I'm just
- 58:44Speaker 5: able to give them a couple more dollars than we're getting, right,
- 58:47Speaker 5: that's not worth it, bro, Like we I I got
- 58:53Speaker 5: to think about all of the sweat equity we've put
- 58:55Speaker 5: into this brand. That's the fact. Longer that you get
- 59:00Speaker 5: me a bag, it gotta be worth it them ten years.
- 59:02Speaker 5: Other than that, we're gonna get there. We're gonna get there.
- 59:04Speaker 6: That's what we're throwing me over, creative.
- 59:06Speaker 4: Some creators do get those offers for the MS and
- 59:08Speaker 4: they be like, nah, because they go off for the Well,
- 59:10Speaker 4: if they offer me two million, the mush must be
- 59:11Speaker 4: worth four. But I'm like, and even if that is true,
- 59:14Speaker 4: and then just I guess it's the one again, this
- 59:16Speaker 4: is your circumstance at the time, Like, I can't.
- 59:18Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie to you.
- 59:19Speaker 4: Somebody cutting me in my pot right now, offer me
- 59:20Speaker 4: three or five ms, whatever the case was.
- 59:22Speaker 6: I'm taking that, bro. And if I got to deal
- 59:24Speaker 6: with the legalities after the fact, if they did snake me,
- 59:26Speaker 6: then I'll do that later down the line. But that
- 59:28Speaker 6: is life changing, Brad. I'm not turning that.
- 59:31Speaker 5: I'm taking the three mil, but I'm also taking I'm
- 59:33Speaker 5: also doing going to a lawyer. First, what are you
- 59:35Speaker 5: talking about it? I'm not just taking it? And then
- 59:37Speaker 5: whatever happens happening three to five? Send it all right?
- 59:45Speaker 5: Boog a bigger? Where are met? Where am I at
- 59:48Speaker 5: in this damn thing? How do I feel about upsetting
- 59:53Speaker 5: women today? I'm trying.
- 59:57Speaker 3: It's no.
- 59:57Speaker 5: We fight back, y'all do fight back, but it ain't me.
- 1:00:04Speaker 6: I mean I cannot. I got a question.
- 1:00:05Speaker 5: If you don't know, you know what? Go ahead? Jay?
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: Oh lord?
- 1:00:13Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I asked you.
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: The other day, So I'll just ask it again because
- 1:00:15Speaker 4: I heard this lovely young lady say that she had degrees?
- 1:00:17Speaker 6: How many degrees do you have?
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: Are you talking about me?
- 1:00:20Speaker 6: Yes, that's a question.
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: You heard that where I said when you was talking
- 1:00:24Speaker 4: about earlier that you said you got a degree in history?
- 1:00:26Speaker 6: Or he said it?
- 1:00:28Speaker 5: Do you have a degree?
- 1:00:29Speaker 6: Or you did you go to college?
- 1:00:32Speaker 5: Is there a question?
- 1:00:32Speaker 6: I don't know?
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: I have two when I'm working on my third.
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: All right, So the question I asked yesterday was do
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: women collect degrees like poke balls?
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: Again? Are you asking me this question?
- 1:00:44Speaker 5: Yes?
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: I asked this because if you hear me, to preface
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: it with more context, I asked this because I had
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: an argument about women being more successful than Matt, and
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: the argument came from women saying that women are or
- 1:01:02Speaker 4: more Yeah, I have better on the academic standpoint over men.
- 1:01:05Speaker 6: But I argued, I was like, well, that's because women
- 1:01:08Speaker 6: get into more of.
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: A workforce that requires you guys to have degrees like
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: social work, nursing law, et cetera, et cetera. More men
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: can lean towards trades like you know, hvac technicians, being
- 1:01:19Speaker 4: a plumber, et cetera, et cetera. So it doesn't require
- 1:01:21Speaker 4: men to have to go to school, at least not
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: you know, traditional school to make a successful living for themselves.
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: And then also the conversation also stem from a lot
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: of women getting degrees and things that they have that
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: they end up getting a degree for something that they
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: don't end up using. So I just want to ask you,
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: how do you feel about everything I said? I say,
- 1:01:39Speaker 4: they're shaking, et cetera.
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: That's lovely. I love your opinion. However, I am a learner.
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: I am an educator. I am also a principal, So
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: for me, education is number one. I don't think I
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: collect degrees like poke balls. I collect degrees so that
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: I am continuously learning, always gonna be sharp. I don't
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: like to be put in a box or in a corner.
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: And all three of my degrees are in three completely
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: different things, all of which I use every day. Like
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: one of my degrees is in this right here.
- 1:02:19Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question, Lola Oil, do you
- 1:02:26Speaker 5: not think that men should have those degrees as well?
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: I sure do because.
- 1:02:32Speaker 5: So like I was watching a comedian the other day
- 1:02:36Speaker 5: and he was talking to a young lady and she said,
- 1:02:39Speaker 5: she's in law school, she's about to be a lawyer.
- 1:02:42Speaker 5: And she was with a guy and he was a
- 1:02:46Speaker 5: maintenance man, and to the comedian obviously got into his bed, like, Yo,
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: she's gonna be around judges, lawyers, like she's gonna be
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: a high profile clients, and you're gonna be coming out
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: the bathroom like yo, the sink is fixed it, Like yo, yeah,
- 1:03:03Speaker 5: you could do you think not think that we kind
- 1:03:06Speaker 5: of shoot towards I'm all right right now where women
- 1:03:11Speaker 5: think about like some other shit and should we be
- 1:03:14Speaker 5: meeting them there? You know what I'm saying. So the
- 1:03:18Speaker 5: idea that yeah, you could be a tradesman, cause SHOTU
- 1:03:20Speaker 5: to tradesmen. We all need them. But I don't want
- 1:03:23Speaker 5: to say that men can just do that like that's
- 1:03:26Speaker 5: there are some men that pick up garbage and some
- 1:03:28Speaker 5: men that do law. I would have loved to have
- 1:03:30Speaker 5: not made the mistakes that I made when I was
- 1:03:32Speaker 5: a kid, you know what I'm saying. And should I
- 1:03:34Speaker 5: have a friend right now in Hark This nigger has
- 1:03:37Speaker 5: his own medical practice in like two states. Like you
- 1:03:41Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Like me and this man rode
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: the bus together, we slat box every day, we went
- 1:03:47Speaker 5: to school together. But I was more focused on basketball
- 1:03:51Speaker 5: and playing around with girls or whatever. And he who
- 1:03:55Speaker 5: actually had a girlfriend. I was just trying to get girls.
- 1:03:57Speaker 5: He had a girl, but he went to fucking law
- 1:04:00Speaker 5: school and married my high school sweetheart. But whatever, I
- 1:04:07Speaker 5: know you listening too, that's some bumpshit, but shout out.
- 1:04:09Speaker 5: I love you though. But still, yeah, I would have
- 1:04:13Speaker 5: rather chose his life or his made his choices than
- 1:04:18Speaker 5: the ones that I made, you know what I mean?
- 1:04:21Speaker 4: Yeah, just on My whole thing is just make your
- 1:04:23Speaker 4: degree means something, you know, I don't think it's a
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: flex and an argument to be like I got three degrees,
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: but you work at Starbucks as a Barrista like it.
- 1:04:30Speaker 4: Don't if you're not using your degree for something, What
- 1:04:33Speaker 4: is the real flex If you are using it and
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: you getting too a bag and you you successful in
- 1:04:37Speaker 4: your own RFE by all means, I'll clap it up
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: for you at all time, But don't hit me with
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: I'm better than you because I have X amount of
- 1:04:43Speaker 4: degrees and yet yeah, me and my high school di
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: ploma makes more money than you and your three degrees.
- 1:04:47Speaker 6: What are we really talking about here?
- 1:04:49Speaker 3: Like to say, I think that I respectfully disagree because
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: your interests change as you grow and you get older.
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: Even when you think about when you were a kid
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: and somebody asked you what do you want to be
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: when you grow up? You could have said one thing
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: and then went into that field because that's what you
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: thought you wanted to be until you actually got in
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: that field and then decided to make a pivot, and
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: you don't know where. What you learned, the relationships that
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: you've built, the network in that you have a mass
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: can actually place you later. Even though my degrees for
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: me are in different fields. I quickly realized how my
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: bachelors showed up in the space of education and how
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: it helped me. Even though my bachelor's was not in education,
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: it was in TV radio production. But then when I
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: started working in a school and we got a contract
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: with Disney Junior, and we had theater and we had
- 1:05:52Speaker 3: lights that need to be operated and cameras that need
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: to be operated and music that need to be operated.
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: And I have a degree and I have a background
- 1:05:59Speaker 3: in all of these things. Oh shit, even though now
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: I'm in education, I can use this degree because I
- 1:06:05Speaker 3: know how to work a soundboard. I know how to
- 1:06:07Speaker 3: work cameras, I know how to work lights. I know
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: how to set a stage. I know how to run
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: lines with somebody. I know how to build it from
- 1:06:14Speaker 3: the bottom to the top. Thank God for that degree
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: instead of just having a random gym teacher that don't
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: know how to do nothing and then the production is
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: fucked up. And I ran Disney Junior for four years.
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: We did four We did Annie, we did The Lion
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: King No. Three years, and we did Hairspray and it
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: was amazing. So the degree helped in that setting, and
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: it also helped set up other young kids to see
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: that you can do many different things, like, yeah, I'm
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: a teacher by day, but when we're doing these things
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: in the afternoon. I'm showing you what I know how
- 1:06:49Speaker 3: to do in different places, in different spaces. I can
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: go to my school and say a podcast club.
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: What.
- 1:06:56Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry because the last segment I didn't speak
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: at all, and I'm the only person you up asked
- 1:07:01Speaker 3: the question to. But sorry myself, didn't they have a
- 1:07:04Speaker 3: period the whole time? You just I'm sorry. It's cool,
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: you got it because talk about your degrees. I don't
- 1:07:13Speaker 3: have exactly.
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: Talk about them.
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: So sorry?
- 1:07:20Speaker 5: Did that?
- 1:07:21Speaker 3: Did that with my and my master's No, you're good.
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: Gohead what you want to talk about, honey, discuss it.
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: What you want to talk about, Go ahead, pivot.
- 1:07:36Speaker 5: You see I'm getting beat up on. No, you're not.
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: I'm chilling. Sorry, Sorry for answering your question.
- 1:07:42Speaker 6: I appreciate you.
- 1:07:46Speaker 5: Now, she's going to stand me down.
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: I look the other way if it makes you feel
- 1:07:49Speaker 3: more comfortable.
- 1:07:50Speaker 5: She's never gonna look at me. Yo, it's so hard,
- 1:07:54Speaker 5: it is so it's so difficult.
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: It's so difficult.
- 1:07:59Speaker 5: We never this is never going to stop. I'm good, bro.
- 1:08:04Speaker 5: You have run on sentences that run on into under sentences.
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I apologize.
- 1:08:11Speaker 5: Just be aware.
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 1:08:12Speaker 5: There's five people.
- 1:08:13Speaker 3: Here, right, anybody have more degrees than me that I
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: want to discuss the talpic.
- 1:08:20Speaker 5: Your hold up? What you ain't gonna style on me
- 1:08:23Speaker 5: with your little degrees?
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: I just as you you're not going to degree asked
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: the question.
- 1:08:30Speaker 7: I will say that that's not fair because we could
- 1:08:32Speaker 7: have I think with saying with five people allowed to contribute.
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: To the conversation, question was directed towards me.
- 1:08:40Speaker 7: I understand that, but I had something to contribute to.
- 1:08:42Speaker 7: But what he's saying is mindful of conversation. The art
- 1:08:47Speaker 7: of conversation is to pass the rock fan passed, I
- 1:08:55Speaker 7: do have a passing.
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: No, it's fine, It's completely fine. I just thought that
- 1:09:02Speaker 3: this segment was one that I could chime in on,
- 1:09:04Speaker 3: so I did not speak on the last one when
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: he asked everybody a question except for me. But it's fine,
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: you got it. What segment was that when you asked
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: everybody about who they would rather have the conversation with
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: instead of the money. But it's fine. I'm sorry I usurped.
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: This space is good.
- 1:09:20Speaker 9: I like that.
- 1:09:21Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:09:24Speaker 5: I'm not scared of you.
- 1:09:25Speaker 3: I didn't say you had to be or listen.
- 1:09:27Speaker 5: I'm not and I could beat you. You can't, and
- 1:09:29Speaker 5: I will will.
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: Yours know that I truly believe that there's nobody that
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: can beat my ass. You could believe that, all right,
- 1:09:36Speaker 3: as long as I believe it. What my husband said,
- 1:09:39Speaker 3: Let's make slide that down.
- 1:09:40Speaker 6: Yes, I do love you have a Mellow jersey.
- 1:09:43Speaker 5: That's my favorite player. Yes, he don't have no rings neither.
- 1:09:47Speaker 3: Can't relate.
- 1:09:55Speaker 4: One thing about mellow. He didn't flopped against buckets either,
- 1:09:59Speaker 4: can't say the same.
- 1:09:59Speaker 5: Right, you're right?
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: Um?
- 1:10:02Speaker 5: Oh that's you gotta wring yo. Y'all good everybody? Okay,
- 1:10:08Speaker 5: I've been sure same people. I'm not sure what you
- 1:10:12Speaker 5: can't understand that you can't win. I'm never really tracking
- 1:10:15Speaker 5: to you like that no more? What do you What
- 1:10:16Speaker 5: do you need?
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: How? I think just had your baby?
- 1:10:19Speaker 3: So what do you mean you never changing to me
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: no more? Because I gave the way.
- 1:10:23Speaker 5: You had the baby two years ago?
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: So what.
- 1:10:31Speaker 5: You didn't need two years to stats back if you
- 1:10:32Speaker 5: would have got your ass in the gym. So so
- 1:10:35Speaker 5: that's what it means.
- 1:10:36Speaker 3: You don't want me no more?
- 1:10:37Speaker 8: Because I said I didn't want you no more, you
- 1:10:39Speaker 8: got the opportunity.
- 1:10:40Speaker 5: To get you're not a tracking to me.
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: You don't want me, You don't want me no more
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: because I've gained.
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: You have to marry your child. Girl, man, girl math.
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: This is what men say about y'all.
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: Do not listen.
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: This man is expressing to you what he doesn't like.
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: He never said that he didn't want to be with you.
- 1:10:59Speaker 3: He just said I need you to get in the
- 1:11:03Speaker 3: gym and lose that weight.
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: I am losing attraction to you.
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: It's not that I don't want to thug it out
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: and I don't not want to be with you.
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: I'm just telling you how I feel.
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: And this is what men say when they say, y'all
- 1:11:17Speaker 3: cannot handle the truth. But y'all always like telling me
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: the truth.
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: Tell me the truth.
- 1:11:24Speaker 3: He telling her, and before y'all be.
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: Like he she had a baby two years ago. Get you,
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: get in the gym. Get the fuck in the gym.
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: You aren't making excuses for yourself, and ladies stop making
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: excuses for each other. But again, I'm your girl, j Monique,
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: its who can play that game right?
- 1:11:40Speaker 9: Make sure you like?
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: Come that shirt to a friend and he'd it.
- 1:11:46Speaker 6: I think the woman should speak first.
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: Oh, and don't say Jordan because Jordan, oh.
- 1:11:57Speaker 5: Pick me energy, you pick me in she waiting for
- 1:12:01Speaker 5: me to want her to say somebody way, so please,
- 1:12:03Speaker 5: somebody save me in this.
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: Situation, I will say it is important to listen and
- 1:12:08Speaker 3: that it is okay to say I'm losing that attraction.
- 1:12:11Speaker 7: I do.
- 1:12:12Speaker 3: I I do recognize that he did say. It's not
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: that I don't want you. I'm just not attracted to you.
- 1:12:17Speaker 3: And that's the reality. Because if my man don't get
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: his hair cut, he start not having himself together. I mean,
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: I love that man down, but the attraction can go.
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: So do I think that matters? Yes? But do I
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: also think that it's a sensitive topic because as a woman,
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: your body does change when you are carrying a child,
- 1:12:36Speaker 3: and it's things beyond our control and sometimes a gym
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: ain't gonna change a little extra action. So it's just
- 1:12:42Speaker 3: like at the end, if you love me, you love me,
- 1:12:45Speaker 3: you understand that my body changed for you, not because
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: oh I just wanted my body change on my own.
- 1:12:52Speaker 3: You decide to put a kid in me, so you
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: are a part of this. So I don't think he
- 1:12:56Speaker 3: was wrong or what he was saying. I think she
- 1:12:58Speaker 3: was just in her feelings for whatever the reason was,
- 1:13:01Speaker 3: but it is understandable on both sides. She probably felt
- 1:13:04Speaker 3: like not beautiful. She probably fights within herself as a woman,
- 1:13:07Speaker 3: and then hearing the person that she loved and made
- 1:13:09Speaker 3: the child for also say it back, and it's like,
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: you don't know what she's struggling with. And I think
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: that a lot of men voiced the opinions without fully understanding,
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: like what it is to carry the child, what it
- 1:13:18Speaker 3: is to look at yourself and not feel beautiful. But
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: you created this beautiful thing. And it's like, but I
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: don't feel beautiful anymore behind something like that, and then oh,
- 1:13:25Speaker 3: here goes the man, Oh you're not attractive anymore, and
- 1:13:28Speaker 3: I see you on Instagram like in the next girl's picture.
- 1:13:30Speaker 3: Now it's like insecurity thing.
- 1:13:33Speaker 5: So gosh, hmh O.
- 1:13:39Speaker 3: I agree with everything that you said, Jay, like, I
- 1:13:41Speaker 3: think that you did that beautifully. Thanks you welcome.
- 1:13:47Speaker 6: Guard dogs.
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: God, there's no tension. I'm shu, what did the guys think?
- 1:13:52Speaker 5: You know?
- 1:13:53Speaker 3: I love it when y'all speak on like women issues.
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: It's so much fun.
- 1:13:58Speaker 5: I actually think that his approach is room. I didn't
- 1:14:01Speaker 5: the way he spoke to her, I wouldn't. There's a
- 1:14:04Speaker 5: way to give constructive criticism that wouldn't be taken a
- 1:14:07Speaker 5: certain way. Right, Obviously this is going to be a
- 1:14:09Speaker 5: tricky conversation anyway, But I feel like his approach was
- 1:14:14Speaker 5: mad harsh with somebody that you love that has a
- 1:14:17Speaker 5: real reasoning behind it. Women's bodies is literally they like
- 1:14:21Speaker 5: shift their whole shit, like cracks a part of some
- 1:14:25Speaker 5: shit to fit a baby in it, and stretches and
- 1:14:28Speaker 5: all types of other shit. So in the midst of
- 1:14:31Speaker 5: all that, al right, she could have went to the gym,
- 1:14:33Speaker 5: But the way he said it, I ain't know if
- 1:14:36Speaker 5: I fucked with that. I don't know. Y'all want to
- 1:14:37Speaker 5: hear it again.
- 1:14:38Speaker 7: Well, I don't necessarily want to hear it again. I
- 1:14:40Speaker 7: feel like there's more to the like with everything, there's
- 1:14:43Speaker 7: more context. How did this conversation start? Did he start
- 1:14:46Speaker 7: right there?
- 1:14:47Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
- 1:14:48Speaker 7: Was there something that led up to that conversation? Does
- 1:14:50Speaker 7: she say something to him that made him respond? Like,
- 1:14:53Speaker 7: there's a lot of things to it. But I agree
- 1:14:55Speaker 7: with you, like based off of what we know, Like
- 1:14:59Speaker 7: you gotta understand and that there's it's a sensitive issue
- 1:15:01Speaker 7: to talk about a woman's weight, whether she had a
- 1:15:03Speaker 7: baby or not, you know what I mean. So the
- 1:15:05Speaker 7: way you approach that is definitely something that you would
- 1:15:08Speaker 7: be very strategic about and be careful with.
- 1:15:11Speaker 5: What you say.
- 1:15:13Speaker 7: And I would be hesitant to be like, I'm unattracted
- 1:15:16Speaker 7: to you, I'm losing attraction. Even if that's the case,
- 1:15:18Speaker 7: it's just it could be potentially harmful to say, like
- 1:15:22Speaker 7: Janelle said, it's something that Jaylen Janelle, I'm sorry, Jaylen.
- 1:15:28Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I tried Jayleen.
- 1:15:32Speaker 7: So, like Jaylene said, it could be something that she
- 1:15:35Speaker 7: is sensitive about or have insecurities about, and I'll stop it.
- 1:15:43Speaker 3: Because honesty without empathy is cruelty. I don't think that
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: was the first conversation.
- 1:15:53Speaker 4: My only question is is there a proper way of
- 1:15:56Speaker 4: having that conversation now? I feel like there's no way
- 1:15:57Speaker 4: to phrase that without it coming off as being like
- 1:16:00Speaker 4: you sound like a douche.
- 1:16:01Speaker 3: No, because I had a conversation with somebody, right, and
- 1:16:04Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go too deep cause I am gonna
- 1:16:06Speaker 3: send them a link to this podcast. No, I don't
- 1:16:08Speaker 3: want them to eat me up Right. I had a
- 1:16:10Speaker 3: conversation with somebody and straightforward I told them their parents
- 1:16:14Speaker 3: wasn't crap. They abandoned thumb. I like, I read them filth.
- 1:16:17Speaker 3: But the reality is, did I say it in a
- 1:16:19Speaker 3: nice way? And did I make sure we have the relationship?
- 1:16:21Speaker 3: Did I make sure that we were on the same page,
- 1:16:24Speaker 3: that I make sure like I need you to understand
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: my intention because this person was reacting a certain way
- 1:16:30Speaker 3: and they their behaviors that they were exhibiting. I'm like,
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: this is a a direct reflection of how you were raised.
- 1:16:37Speaker 3: And I said some harsh things, but in a nice way.
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: You can tell me I'm getting big without calling me
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: a fat, big slab. You can be like yright, you know,
- 1:16:46Speaker 3: I noticed you gaining some weight and things are not fitting,
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: and so especially with somebody you love. When the person
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: I I love talks to me, it's a way of
- 1:16:55Speaker 3: what you talk to me. I can hear anything from
- 1:16:56Speaker 3: the person that I love. Just know how to talk
- 1:16:59Speaker 3: to me. This This ain't a man on the street.
- 1:17:01Speaker 3: A man on the street, y, It's no way, no
- 1:17:03Speaker 3: right way to say it. You you some other person.
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: The man I laid down absolutely is a way of
- 1:17:08Speaker 3: what you could talk to me.
- 1:17:09Speaker 4: But the triggering part of that conversation when she definitely
- 1:17:11Speaker 4: said I'm like, I'm not interested in going back to
- 1:17:14Speaker 4: Jim sor right, what do you say to that? I
- 1:17:15Speaker 4: brought it up to you because I was concerned as
- 1:17:16Speaker 4: a husband or a boyfriend, whatever his case was. In
- 1:17:18Speaker 4: that clip, I said that you as a concerned partner.
- 1:17:21Speaker 4: And now you look me dead on my face. So
- 1:17:22Speaker 4: I have no interest in losing this weight. Now where
- 1:17:23Speaker 4: do we go from here?
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: Well, that wasn't what she said. Yeah, it was not
- 1:17:27Speaker 3: no interest in losing the weight. I think that there
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: is uh a a major implication that people have to
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: understand as a mental component when you have a child,
- 1:17:35Speaker 3: and two years is not that long of a time,
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: Like it's just not like it is when you say
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: it out loud, but when you're actually in it and
- 1:17:43Speaker 3: you're living in it, there are certain things that that
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: are a bigger priority. There's certain things that are on
- 1:17:48Speaker 3: a woman's mind in that space that it might take
- 1:17:52Speaker 3: a little bit longer than two years for me to
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: even get the motivation for myself to even feel like
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: I can make it back to where I was or
- 1:18:01Speaker 3: or where I started. And I don't need the mirror
- 1:18:06Speaker 3: exists like you can see yourself and there's nothing that
- 1:18:10Speaker 3: somebody can say about you or to you, that's probably
- 1:18:13Speaker 3: worse than what you're already saying to yourself, especially if
- 1:18:16Speaker 3: it's something that is that grandiose of a difference. So,
- 1:18:19Speaker 3: as my partner, I don't need you to throw in
- 1:18:21Speaker 3: my face what I already am probably struggling with.
- 1:18:25Speaker 5: I gotta disagree, Loki. So this, this is the question,
- 1:18:30Speaker 5: This is the question. This is the question. What if
- 1:18:32Speaker 5: she asked why y'all don't have sex like y'all used to,
- 1:18:36Speaker 5: and you're just admitting that you're not as attracted because
- 1:18:41Speaker 5: of the weight. That's what I was getting at too,
- 1:18:43Speaker 5: And I was like, what if you're just trying to
- 1:18:45Speaker 5: be honest but you're not being like a douchebag about it.
- 1:18:48Speaker 5: But it's kind of like.
- 1:18:50Speaker 8: It's just I don't I think it has to be
- 1:18:52Speaker 8: done in a certain way.
- 1:18:53Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, what's the way that's gonna win everything? She says,
- 1:18:58Speaker 5: I'm not.
- 1:19:00Speaker 3: It's a weight in which you can tell somebody I'm not.
- 1:19:02Speaker 3: Try's conversation.
- 1:19:04Speaker 5: Wait, you really think that you can get that off? Wait?
- 1:19:07Speaker 3: Hold on, there is a weight in which to say
- 1:19:09Speaker 3: I am not attracted to you while I'm not attracted
- 1:19:13Speaker 3: to a certain things without being offensive or in reality
- 1:19:16Speaker 3: it's okay to be offensive. Like the conversation I had
- 1:19:19Speaker 3: with the person about their upbring. Guess what, they started
- 1:19:21Speaker 3: crying because it really did hurt. But did they understand me? Yes,
- 1:19:24Speaker 3: But it's a weight in what you say it. You
- 1:19:26Speaker 3: don't got to be aggressive with it. Listen, Sexually, I don't,
- 1:19:29Speaker 3: I'm not as turned thrown. You know the things that
- 1:19:31Speaker 3: turn me out. You know, the curves about your body
- 1:19:33Speaker 3: and this, this and the third. You know that's how
- 1:19:35Speaker 3: I am.
- 1:19:36Speaker 5: You don't have that an Oh god, I just feel
- 1:19:39Speaker 5: like it with me.
- 1:19:41Speaker 6: You know, I feel like conversations like this should be
- 1:19:43Speaker 6: had from the beginning.
- 1:19:44Speaker 4: I could be dramatic for it, but I feel like
- 1:19:46Speaker 4: I say all the time, right, how I met you
- 1:19:48Speaker 4: is what I was attracted to. And yes, obviously if
- 1:19:50Speaker 4: we plan on dating, if you date for marriage and
- 1:19:52Speaker 4: you see yourself being with a person possibly having your kids,
- 1:19:55Speaker 4: name a threshold. I don't know what that even looks
- 1:19:56Speaker 4: like to you. I'm like, twenty pounds down or twenty
- 1:19:58Speaker 4: pounds up. But like anything, see did that, We're kind
- 1:20:00Speaker 4: of getting in a lane of I might start having
- 1:20:03Speaker 4: some issues here. I don't think there's anything wrong with
- 1:20:05Speaker 4: saying that, but I feel like it should be said
- 1:20:06Speaker 4: since they get go since the beginning, before you had
- 1:20:08Speaker 4: any of my kids, before we got married. These are
- 1:20:10Speaker 4: all conversations that you have and you're getting in those
- 1:20:12Speaker 4: stage or somebody I said it. Listen, I said, and say, yo, bro,
- 1:20:17Speaker 4: you gotta stop acting like you getting fat is not
- 1:20:20Speaker 4: low key your problem or wait on you is down
- 1:20:22Speaker 4: that unattracted thing.
- 1:20:23Speaker 6: Depending how much way you put on this, I'm just being.
- 1:20:27Speaker 3: And this is where we're going to conversation, not just
- 1:20:30Speaker 3: a little boy conversation.
- 1:20:31Speaker 5: Right here we go.
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: We're talking about marriage and marriages for better or for worse,
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: and the thing about men not just touching on marriage,
- 1:20:39Speaker 3: think about many y'all are very like physical everything. Oh
- 1:20:43Speaker 3: she got the fat, but she got this, she got that, y'all.
- 1:20:46Speaker 3: I'm not really attracted to the heart. And that doesn't
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: have to apply to y'all as no it does.
- 1:20:49Speaker 5: I'm good, I'm good, I'm with you.
- 1:20:51Speaker 3: Like y'all have every attracted to the outside. So when
- 1:20:55Speaker 3: the outside fades, it's oh, I'm done and I'm ready
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: to hit The Next thing is what about when your
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: thing not working no more? What about when you God
- 1:21:04Speaker 3: forbid something. Ever, I'm not gonna use you. But like
- 1:21:06Speaker 3: God forbid, you lose your ability to walk, You're paralyzed.
- 1:21:09Speaker 3: Now you expect me to stay, but I gain.
- 1:21:12Speaker 5: Some weight, nailing some shit with new legs. But go ahead,
- 1:21:15Speaker 5: I'm crying.
- 1:21:15Speaker 3: I can't. But the reality is, y'all expect a woman
- 1:21:19Speaker 3: to stay. Oh just love me or hold me down,
- 1:21:22Speaker 3: be my ride to dot. But I gain some weight
- 1:21:24Speaker 3: and it's a problem. I'm no longer beautiful because I
- 1:21:27Speaker 3: gain some weight. Nobody talk about y'all when y'all gain weight,
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: y'all still want love when that's not functioning the way
- 1:21:32Speaker 3: we want And being honest, a lot of men don't
- 1:21:34Speaker 3: really know how to make it function. Y'all just know
- 1:21:35Speaker 3: how to pump.
- 1:21:36Speaker 4: But but that's why for me, it depends on the
- 1:21:39Speaker 4: type of person you like. Like, for example, right I
- 1:21:41Speaker 4: go to the gym. I'm not saying you gotta be
- 1:21:43Speaker 4: a musclehead or you gotta be an avid gym goer,
- 1:21:45Speaker 4: but like I would like someone that is aware of
- 1:21:47Speaker 4: being healthy, whatever way that even looks for you. You
- 1:21:49Speaker 4: take pilates, you do yoga, but just you're mindful of
- 1:21:52Speaker 4: how to keep yourself in shape, whatever way that looks
- 1:21:54Speaker 4: like for you, as long as you're a mindful person
- 1:21:56Speaker 4: of that. I say, you know, I date people on habit. Now, granted,
- 1:21:59Speaker 4: can you start, you know, become forty years old tomorrow
- 1:22:01Speaker 4: say I'm gonna decide to change my life and go
- 1:22:03Speaker 4: to the gym. Absolutely, but I'm proof of pattern. If
- 1:22:05Speaker 4: you want your entire life never being a gym goer,
- 1:22:08Speaker 4: You're probably not gonna be the person for me because
- 1:22:10Speaker 4: I'm not gonna believe that one day or I'm not
- 1:22:12Speaker 4: gonna take the probability of chance that one day you're
- 1:22:14Speaker 4: gonna wake up and say, you know, I want to
- 1:22:15Speaker 4: turn this whole shit around.
- 1:22:16Speaker 3: Now that okay? And in that instance, I respect you
- 1:22:20Speaker 3: because from the get go, from the jump, you're saying
- 1:22:23Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna date you. But in this situation
- 1:22:25Speaker 3: we've been rocking. And once I have your child and
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: I've I've changed up my body to fit the need
- 1:22:32Speaker 3: of your child, which you also want it. Now I'm
- 1:22:34Speaker 3: no longer good enough because of like just natural of
- 1:22:38Speaker 3: what my body just does. That's a total different conversation.
- 1:22:42Speaker 7: What could be the issue is not just how she
- 1:22:45Speaker 7: physically looks, but the attitude of I may not want
- 1:22:48Speaker 7: to do anything about it. So it's kind of like
- 1:22:51Speaker 7: if we're saying that for the most part these generalizations, right,
- 1:22:54Speaker 7: men are visual creatures and women want somebody that can provide, right,
- 1:22:58Speaker 7: So it's almost like the equivalent of being broke versus
- 1:23:03Speaker 7: not having any ambition. A woman, for the most part,
- 1:23:06Speaker 7: could probably put up with a man that is low
- 1:23:08Speaker 7: on his bread in one particular month, one particular season,
- 1:23:11Speaker 7: but no, he's going to get to it, you know
- 1:23:13Speaker 7: what I mean, Versus a man that has zero ambition
- 1:23:16Speaker 7: and his five year forecast is looking real broken for
- 1:23:19Speaker 7: two years, right, you know what I mean. So it's
- 1:23:22Speaker 7: for me, it's about mindset. Your mindset is part of
- 1:23:25Speaker 7: what makes you attractive. If you're not, even if you
- 1:23:29Speaker 7: don't even have it on your to do list to
- 1:23:33Speaker 7: be healthy and or to go to the gym at
- 1:23:35Speaker 7: any point it could be two years, it could be
- 1:23:37Speaker 7: five years, that mindset contributes to you being unattractive to me.
- 1:23:42Speaker 7: So that's just me and I would say in the
- 1:23:44Speaker 7: same way, I could judge you on your mindset about
- 1:23:47Speaker 7: being not willing to even listen to what I'm saying
- 1:23:51Speaker 7: and to take into consideration that Hey, man, are visual
- 1:23:55Speaker 7: and I want to be better every day. And if
- 1:23:58Speaker 7: you don't have that mindset that you want to be
- 1:23:59Speaker 7: better every day, that to me is more important than
- 1:24:02Speaker 7: the actual output of it or the outcome of it.
- 1:24:05Speaker 7: You know what I mean.
- 1:24:06Speaker 5: I don't I don't like it. I feel like we're
- 1:24:10Speaker 5: being souper. I feel like we're being super like. But
- 1:24:16Speaker 5: two years after a baby, she's more concerned that first year.
- 1:24:20Speaker 5: She's still sleeping with third eye open. She's not thinking
- 1:24:26Speaker 5: about sucking dick like she's not. She's she's literally the
- 1:24:31Speaker 5: baby is what. It's a thing that she was in
- 1:24:34Speaker 5: her body for mad long. Do you have children? So yeah,
- 1:24:38Speaker 5: the baby was in the body for mad long. She
- 1:24:41Speaker 5: noticed every shift, every kick, everything, everything that made her nauseous.
- 1:24:46Speaker 5: She noticed every single thing and applied it to the
- 1:24:49Speaker 5: health of this child. Now the child is out, she's
- 1:24:51Speaker 5: thinking about that way more than how she thinks about you.
- 1:24:56Speaker 5: Right then, you think about the mental issues that women
- 1:24:59Speaker 5: go through with postpartum and emotional imbalances. That is literally
- 1:25:04Speaker 5: part of the whole pregnancy process. You don't get your
- 1:25:07Speaker 5: women back. The lady that you knew for five years,
- 1:25:10Speaker 5: you don't get her back for you. It's a whole
- 1:25:13Speaker 5: different women you dealing with, So I don't I don't
- 1:25:17Speaker 5: know how fair it is to say that after two years,
- 1:25:20Speaker 5: and with respect to us, because we got needs too.
- 1:25:23Speaker 5: That's why you're supposed to cheat, but you were I'm joking.
- 1:25:27Speaker 5: I'm joking, but God was riding. She was over here,
- 1:25:32Speaker 5: like all right, this is why he's my friend. I'm joking,
- 1:25:35Speaker 5: but we have needs too. But I feel like it's
- 1:25:41Speaker 5: just kind of harsh to even say to her, like, yo,
- 1:25:46Speaker 5: I'm not attracted after two years. It's kind of harsh.
- 1:25:49Speaker 5: It's kind of tough. It's kind of tough.
- 1:25:54Speaker 6: I've seen videos off women that they dropped the baby
- 1:25:57Speaker 6: and they got right back, and that's them. You just
- 1:26:00Speaker 6: got a lot of time. Person, You gotta find a
- 1:26:02Speaker 6: person that I guess fits you.
- 1:26:05Speaker 3: You don't know that because you gonna be a fitness person.
- 1:26:07Speaker 3: But everybody's body doesn't just snap back, like for instance, well,
- 1:26:11Speaker 3: I'm not gonna use somebody else's personal but like people,
- 1:26:14Speaker 3: some you could carry a pregnancy and not know that's
- 1:26:16Speaker 3: sure going to once your fifth months, you're gonna start
- 1:26:19Speaker 3: having difficulties. You're gonna be bedridden, You're gonna have clots,
- 1:26:22Speaker 3: You're gonna have this.
- 1:26:23Speaker 6: You don't know what it is.
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: So it's like, is it by choice that every woman
- 1:26:27Speaker 3: just wants to gain twenty pounds and then an extra
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: thirty and not be back to what she is. No,
- 1:26:32Speaker 3: that's no. Nobody's goal unless you was like a skinny
- 1:26:35Speaker 3: mini and you was like, I'm trying to get thick
- 1:26:37Speaker 3: after this baby. Nobody's goal is to just be big
- 1:26:40Speaker 3: and uncomfortable or unattractive to their partner. But the reality
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: is your body's still in healing after that nine months,
- 1:26:47Speaker 3: that four or five months I'm breastfeeding, I'm doing this
- 1:26:50Speaker 3: mentally challenging some things, and it's just like I feel
- 1:26:53Speaker 3: like it's a it's a great area. It's an unfair
- 1:26:55Speaker 3: conversation where I do understand that men do have needs.
- 1:26:59Speaker 3: But then that's where I go where it's just like,
- 1:27:00Speaker 3: while you're really there, is it just the physical stuff?
- 1:27:03Speaker 3: Because if it's the physical.
- 1:27:04Speaker 7: Stuff, man, but two years on a long time, I
- 1:27:07Speaker 7: agree with everything that's I was saying, like, I'm so
- 1:27:10Speaker 7: sensitive to a woman that gives birth. I would never
- 1:27:14Speaker 7: put those types of the man's on a woman. So
- 1:27:19Speaker 7: what I'm talking about is more like I'm talking about
- 1:27:22Speaker 7: kind of like just in general, like a woman that didn't.
- 1:27:25Speaker 5: Have a baby.
- 1:27:25Speaker 7: Right, So if we're talking so since we're all talking
- 1:27:28Speaker 7: about a woman that just had a baby, so two
- 1:27:30Speaker 7: years is quick. Is there any timeframe where a man
- 1:27:33Speaker 7: can be honest about how he feels about it?
- 1:27:36Speaker 5: I think it's literally, Jay said earlier. The communication thing
- 1:27:40Speaker 5: is so important because this it should never be a
- 1:27:45Speaker 5: This doesn't have to be like some shit out the blue.
- 1:27:48Speaker 5: Y'all got to have a working communication the way y'all
- 1:27:51Speaker 5: fuck with each other. So if this is your partner,
- 1:27:53Speaker 5: y'all fuck with each other in a certain way. I
- 1:27:56Speaker 5: think there's a way where this isn't a shocking conversation
- 1:27:59Speaker 5: right where baby, Yo, come on, Yo, we got these plates,
- 1:28:02Speaker 5: Come on, let's do it. We're in here, fuck it,
- 1:28:04Speaker 5: we're doing it together. Something where it just doesn't seem
- 1:28:07Speaker 5: like you're throwing that ship at her, like what you
- 1:28:10Speaker 5: got going on.
- 1:28:11Speaker 7: In my imagination, it went down exactly way you said.
- 1:28:14Speaker 7: Like she was like, how come you're not intimate with me?
- 1:28:16Speaker 7: You're not initiating sex, And he was like, well I'm
- 1:28:18Speaker 7: not as attracted too. Years ago. That's how I imagine
- 1:28:21Speaker 7: the conversation is starting. So I don't think it's like
- 1:28:24Speaker 7: in that regard. How else you going to address it?
- 1:28:28Speaker 5: Please speak?
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: What do you want me to say?
- 1:28:31Speaker 5: Your opinion?
- 1:28:31Speaker 3: I have a question for you. I'm good. Two years
- 1:28:39Speaker 3: you're saying is a long time? Correct?
- 1:28:42Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:28:42Speaker 3: Okay? What if you know nine this is including the nine.
- 1:28:47Speaker 5: Months or after she get two years after the baby,
- 1:28:51Speaker 5: and that's three years, two years, nine months, all right,
- 1:28:55Speaker 5: so that you don't look like the way Jay said
- 1:28:58Speaker 5: you used to look with the curves and all that.
- 1:29:00Speaker 5: You look round. But wow, that's what he said.
- 1:29:06Speaker 3: So okay, what if she's actively like trying, She's like, hey,
- 1:29:11Speaker 3: I'm changing, ambition is sexy and all that, but her
- 1:29:14Speaker 3: body didn't change. The body did not change in the
- 1:29:19Speaker 3: last three years. Like the way has been up and down.
- 1:29:22Speaker 3: This never bounced back to what you're used to, what
- 1:29:24Speaker 3: you were attracted to. But she has put some effort in.
- 1:29:27Speaker 3: But let's say, I'm all say that you you probably life.
- 1:29:32Speaker 3: That's selfish.
- 1:29:34Speaker 5: That's she's working towards you. She wants it, but she
- 1:29:38Speaker 5: wants it. I'm gonna bring up to y'all she can she.
- 1:29:41Speaker 3: Can want to lose weight but what if she's happy
- 1:29:43Speaker 3: at where she is and she's like, I don't want
- 1:29:45Speaker 3: to go hand and I don't want to get life,
- 1:29:46Speaker 3: but you're like you got twenty extra.
- 1:29:48Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna force you.
- 1:29:50Speaker 5: I'm not fortunate. I'm not going to be like knock
- 1:29:52Speaker 5: you in ahead and you're gonna wake up strapped to
- 1:29:54Speaker 5: a table and shit sucked out of you. But I
- 1:29:56Speaker 5: wouldn't I wouldn't mind saying, like, yo, you want to
- 1:29:58Speaker 5: get them things sick and you maybe get this thing y'all.
- 1:30:00Speaker 5: What's up? I put it? I put it up. If
- 1:30:04Speaker 5: you know I know you're working on it, I put
- 1:30:05Speaker 5: it out. What's up? What you want to do?
- 1:30:06Speaker 8: What's wrong with her?
- 1:30:07Speaker 5: Just stay in big?
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't like to think, madam. I love you, fam,
- 1:30:14Speaker 3: I love him so much. You don't like big Mama.
- 1:30:18Speaker 5: That's all I'm asking. No, I'm not a bigg lover.
- 1:30:22Speaker 5: It's about what you're attracted to.
- 1:30:24Speaker 7: The man in the clip was talking about what's attractive
- 1:30:26Speaker 7: to him, and I think that we could agree and
- 1:30:30Speaker 7: like to said, if you are working on being you know,
- 1:30:36Speaker 7: better physically, I think that is part of the attraction.
- 1:30:38Speaker 6: I don't dem I'm listening, Skinny Minnie figures on slim thick.
- 1:30:43Speaker 4: Everything is my bag. You just gotta be put together
- 1:30:47Speaker 4: accordingly and that's it. But other than that, listen, I
- 1:30:49Speaker 4: ain't got no problem. That's what I feel like for me.
- 1:30:50Speaker 4: I'm not even being like, shall I feel like if
- 1:30:52Speaker 4: I don't like you, you got a lot going on? Because,
- 1:30:54Speaker 4: like I said, I could deal with all weight classes.
- 1:30:56Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie like I could punch all of those. Wait, okay,
- 1:30:59Speaker 4: it's not okay to say that I'm not a bigger lover.
- 1:31:02Speaker 6: You might get a certain demographic of Twitter that I might.
- 1:31:04Speaker 5: I don't. I'm not saying they that's not for me.
- 1:31:07Speaker 5: I'm not calling nobody.
- 1:31:09Speaker 8: What's the name of us?
- 1:31:12Speaker 5: I am not I do. Listen, that's not my bag.
- 1:31:17Speaker 5: Shout to y'all. That's doing y'all. That's not my bag.
- 1:31:19Speaker 5: That's his bag, super his bag. And he that's why
- 1:31:22Speaker 5: he's trying to say all that definitely not my bag.
- 1:31:25Speaker 5: And if I say and if I get with somebody
- 1:31:28Speaker 5: and they a certain way, like yo, my shorty one day,
- 1:31:31Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie to you. She pulls up the cover,
- 1:31:35Speaker 5: takes a picture of me under the cover with a
- 1:31:36Speaker 5: flash on sends it to me like a month later
- 1:31:39Speaker 5: because I was talking about her with some ship. Maybe
- 1:31:41Speaker 5: two months later. I don't know, nigga. My chest was
- 1:31:44Speaker 5: like sunking in. My sides was like hanging over the drawers.
- 1:31:49Speaker 5: I said, Yo, what made you take that? Because I
- 1:31:52Speaker 5: thought to myself, she was like, oh, I just seen it.
- 1:31:54Speaker 5: I looked and I took the picture. But then I
- 1:31:56Speaker 5: thought about it. She must have wanted some dick and
- 1:32:00Speaker 5: then see me laying like that, it was like, yeah, click,
- 1:32:08Speaker 5: I've been on that that way. I bought a juicer,
- 1:32:10Speaker 5: I've been in the gym, I do push hips every day. Yeah,
- 1:32:14Speaker 5: I want to look good for my partner. So why
- 1:32:16Speaker 5: would it Why is it so offensive when it Nigga
- 1:32:19Speaker 5: wants that this woman to think the same way.
- 1:32:21Speaker 3: But it goes back to communicate, like you were saying,
- 1:32:25Speaker 3: if well.
- 1:32:26Speaker 5: Don't take a picture. I can't take a picture of
- 1:32:27Speaker 5: her roles and send it to about Listen, listen, I
- 1:32:33Speaker 5: want my lady to be I want to take off
- 1:32:35Speaker 5: my ship. And she watched me walk across the room
- 1:32:38Speaker 5: like I'm fucking that nigga. There dick right there.
- 1:32:40Speaker 3: I think because, like I said, a person that I
- 1:32:44Speaker 3: love for me personally, the person that I love, we
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: could talk about anything the person like for me because
- 1:32:51Speaker 3: I love said person, we can legit talk about anything.
- 1:32:54Speaker 3: But you just gotta know how to talk to me.
- 1:32:55Speaker 6: That's it.
- 1:32:56Speaker 3: And if it's a person you love, I'm pretty sure
- 1:32:58Speaker 3: that they do know how to talk to you without
- 1:33:00Speaker 3: being offensive, then you should.
- 1:33:04Speaker 5: And some people don't mind no way.
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: We know.
- 1:33:07Speaker 5: Yesterday, I don't know why she Why did you put
- 1:33:10Speaker 5: a question? Look what she sends. You know the picture
- 1:33:14Speaker 5: is in here. Don't act like you ain't send me
- 1:33:17Speaker 5: this picture. I got the photo.
- 1:33:19Speaker 3: Don't worry today. I got your back.
- 1:33:23Speaker 5: All right. We've been here for way too long. These
- 1:33:25Speaker 5: people have other things to do. She's hungry. She wants starbucks.
- 1:33:28Speaker 3: Huh.
- 1:33:29Speaker 5: He's been calling us this whole episode. Uh, Jay and Jalen,
- 1:33:34Speaker 5: thank y'all so much for coming. Please tell these people
- 1:33:36Speaker 5: where they can find.
- 1:33:37Speaker 6: You being black as ghetto.
- 1:33:39Speaker 4: You know, the vibes Man, that part of the town
- 1:33:40Speaker 4: you subscribe to, Jenna, the Benification, all that fun stuff.
- 1:33:43Speaker 6: You know, there's been a pleasure being here.
- 1:33:45Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:33:46Speaker 6: I would love for y'all to come sit on our
- 1:33:48Speaker 6: couches one day, you know, come chop it up with us.
- 1:33:51Speaker 4: I would love that Vin's underscore under score on all
- 1:33:53Speaker 4: platforms and come catch me talking my ship. You know,
- 1:33:56Speaker 4: it's pretty much it.
- 1:33:58Speaker 3: Love that And I'm a couple of But my personal
- 1:34:01Speaker 3: photo graph dot her. My business is Jaalen Photos and photographer.
- 1:34:06Speaker 5: Hit me up.
- 1:34:06Speaker 3: You hit me up if you ever need. And then
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: my YouTube is Journey with Jayleen, where I just blog.
- 1:34:11Speaker 3: And then I have something to called car Chats, which
- 1:34:12Speaker 3: is like a miniature podcast, but it's.
- 1:34:14Speaker 6: Just in a car, not just so y'all got like
- 1:34:17Speaker 6: an older audience. I'm not gonna like a feel them.
- 1:34:22Speaker 6: I'm asking.
- 1:34:25Speaker 5: The demo.
- 1:34:26Speaker 6: I'm even wanting to every demographic.
- 1:34:28Speaker 4: You know, I got the alphabet community and know what
- 1:34:30Speaker 4: I'm saying, jeriatric man, you up there.
- 1:34:33Speaker 5: Wow remember that the guess all I'm gonna say. Remember that.
- 1:34:45Speaker 2: Yo.
- 1:34:46Speaker 5: Shout out to Yo, shout out to everybody out there.
- 1:34:50Speaker 5: And it's so shameless world. Thank you so much for
- 1:34:53Speaker 5: pulling up DoD You are right. Yeah, I'm fine, Yo,
- 1:34:58Speaker 5: Yo man, true god. Yo. I love you, bro, I
- 1:35:02Speaker 5: love you, bro, thank you for you know. I'm talking
- 1:35:04Speaker 5: to Drew. I'm talking to your husband, thank you to
- 1:35:07Speaker 5: be a sacrifice.
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:35:08Speaker 5: I appreciate you.
- 1:35:09Speaker 9: Man.
- 1:35:10Speaker 3: See but she says she loves you. It doesn't matter.
- 1:35:14Speaker 3: That was foe. This is the life that I lived.
- 1:35:18Speaker 3: I was told to shut up and not nobody told
- 1:35:21Speaker 3: you shut up. You caught up, big ugly and up.
- 1:35:25Speaker 5: I heard it, all of it, big ugly and shut up.
- 1:35:30Speaker 3: And then and then thanks to my husband, like for
- 1:35:32Speaker 3: some like what what.
- 1:35:35Speaker 9: What did you do?
- 1:35:35Speaker 7: What he did was he was trying to manage the
- 1:35:38Speaker 7: podcast the same way you would manage the podcast if
- 1:35:41Speaker 7: you have people over talking each other. It's the same
- 1:35:44Speaker 7: way you manage the time frame that one person.
- 1:35:47Speaker 5: We were done for.
- 1:35:49Speaker 3: You are absolutely.
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: Do a lot.
- 1:35:55Speaker 5: Let us know when you want us to pull up.
- 1:35:57Speaker 5: We would love to come insult you on your so