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S5 124. Laura Gallier – The Delusion series & the Encroaching Spirit of Suicide · Millennial Mustard Seed

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Hello folks. This is Princess.
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You are listening to the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
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Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your
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We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing
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around between this whole corrupt informational system,
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media system. We claim to believe in a God who
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spoke the universe into existence and literally raised
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himself from the dead, and yet we're not going to believe that
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anything else exists in the spirit realm, even though His
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word tells us that they do. Their bodies weren't permitted
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to go to sleep like humans do, and they weren't permitted to go
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to heaven. So they wander the earth, you
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know, I've seen the eyes turn black to unknown tongues being
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spoken. These giants would love way up
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in the Highland. The young Braves, The young men
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would hide up in the trees and wait for one of these 12 footers
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to come walking down the bath and.
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They would jump on them and kill them, drag them back to the
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village and the village would feast on the body freedom.
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Then people start to get weapons.
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They start to get armor, they start to build cities, they
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start to fortify their cities. Now God looks down and there's
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violence everywhere. The battle, this war that we are
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at is not against each other. It's against these
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principalities and these rulers and these archons in the high
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places. It's really worthwhile to read
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the Bible yourself. Fear is one of the primary
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drivers of mind control, because we have to take every thought
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captive and resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
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that is a justice case against the Kingdom of Darkness.
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Welcome back to the Millennial Mustard Seed.
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I am your host, Rod, and thank you for being here with me.
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I am joined by Laura Gallier. She is the author of the
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Christie award-winning novel series The Delusion, which was
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released February 20th of this year.
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The Delusion series is being made into a feature film.
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It speaks to today's teenagers that face an emotional roller
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coaster of struggles and raw realities in the adolescence.
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More than four in 10 youth report that they feel
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persistently sad or hopeless, and one in five claim they have
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contemplated suicide. There's also the concern about
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American teenagers leaning away from religion in exponential
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numbers and the rise of the interest of the occult and
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witchcraft. Well, let's just say this is not
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good for our youth. In Laura's new book, she's
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weaving together the complexities of mental health
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amidst the supernatural backdrop that exposes deception with the
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light of truth, bringing hope and healing to a generation in
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need. The Christie award-winning
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series follows fictional high school senior Owen Edmonds in
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the coming age paranormal thriller as he gains a
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supernatural vision and discovers that his high school
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center is the epic of demonic warfare.
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The main character, Owen has a near death encounter that opens
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his eyes to the spirit world and he does not have a Christian
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background. But he learns that there's good
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and evil this demonic and angelic warfare taking place and
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he has to take it among himself and and develop the courage and
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learn who God is. And he learns the power of faith
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to literally change the atmosphere of the school.
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Fascinating book that's being produced into a feature film.
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Laura has her own interesting supernatural life that she
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shares when she came to Christ. The experience that happened
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where the enemy tried to stop that at a young age and also a
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dream she had about Chimera's encrypted's in the eighth grade,
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which the dream reflects the reality of where she's at today.
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Producing this movie. Laura is a advocate for children
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and keeping sexual purity and just building value back into
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society. A lot of her work is recognized
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in public schools all across the country.
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With the I am Worthy program, we get into so much more on this
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episode. It's really edifying.
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We go back and forth sharpening each other, sharing ideas, and
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it was a fun conversation. Quick shout out to FLF
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Are you guys ready? Let's go.
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I'm Laura Galler, and welcome to the Millennial Mustard Seed
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Podcast. Laura, it is an honor to be here
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with you. I am super excited about the
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book series that you did and and everything about you.
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Right now. I'm kind of falling off of my
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chair as I was looking into your bio and just how God has been
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using you for such a time as the day that we live in.
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So thank you for being here with me.
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Yeah, thank you for having me. And thanks for this awesome
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program and podcast. So you released a series just
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recently, I believe it was on the 20th or 27th of February
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last month, 20th, The Delusion. That's really close to my heart.
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I haven't read it yet. I'm going to be honest with you.
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But just recapping and looking at some of the highlights and
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climactical points about what you're trying to inculcate into
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this younger generation and even the older generations to get us
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back to the reality of spiritual warfare and how the Bible's
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accurate, right? But before we get into all that,
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just give me some background. Tell us a little bit about how
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you became the lawyer that you are today.
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Yeah. Well, again, thank you for
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having me. I grew up in a single parent
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home with my mom and with experienced fatherlessness and
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God and his goodness allowed my good friend's mom in like 3rd or
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4th grade in elementary school. Her mom presented the gospel to
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me in a really simple way that as a child I could understand.
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And right there on her bedroom floor, on the shaggy carpet, we
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grabbed hands and she went to lead me in prayer to receive
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Christ in the phone ring. And she picked it up and there
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was no one there. And she hung up and she grabbed
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my hands and she started to pray and the phone rang a second
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time. She picked it up.
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No one was there. She hung it up.
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And a third time the phone rang. And she finally unplugged it
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from the wall. So back then, you know, we we
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plugged into the wall with our phones.
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But I said, all that to say that there's just been this
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paranormal element from the beginning.
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And it's not just me, It's all of us.
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There is this spiritual warfare aspects, but I knew nothing of
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that as a young girl and ended up you know, the way I explain
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it is I I genuinely had a heart for God, but I had a head full
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of the world. I took my cues from media
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worldly friends. I was alone a lot because my mom
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bless her heart, she was working hard to provide for my sister
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and me. And so again, Long story short,
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I ended up by junior high just looking for love in all the
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wrong places. That fatherless wound was just
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really doing what it does, and that's how I handled it.
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So promiscuity entered my life in 8th grade and I went down
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that path and just a lot of broken relationships.
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Ended up with an unplanned pregnancy at 20 years old, got
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married to try to fix the situation.
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That ended in a fairly quick divorce.
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So there I was in my early 20s, a single mom myself now,
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wondering how in the world did I get to this place?
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I never wanted this for my kids. I grew up with this.
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And that's when I came to understand in this really
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profound, unforgettable way that God's biblical commandments are
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for my protection, that he's not trying to test me.
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He's definitely not trying to ruin my fun.
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He he literally is trying to give me a blessed and good and
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fruitful life. So from there I wrote non
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fiction and started equipping parents and teens about sexual
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integrity, biblical sexuality. I walked that out, met my
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husband, we put Christ first in the relationship.
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We've now been married 23 years. So I thought that's what I do
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for the rest of my life is talk about biblical sexuality.
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All that to say that some years ago it it became really apparent
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that we don't believe in a literal devil.
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We don't believe that there are demons that seek to still kill
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and destroy. And so our morality is really
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just kind of about being a good person, you know, hey, this is
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the right thing to do. And we're not proceeding.
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No, we're in a war and Satan attacks our areas of rebellion,
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disobedience, hurt trauma are are lies that we believe.
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So that led to wanting to write a book about that and it felt
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nudged to do fiction. So that's where The Delusion
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series comes into play. That's kind of the premises of
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the show, Laura, is what you were just highlighting there
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that like we all have this testimony, we all have a story
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and a lot of times we grow up and we're going what happened,
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no actual direction, right? There's a lot of confusion, a
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lot of messages out there that are messing up God's flock and
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we're getting roughshod ran on us right from the gate a lot of
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the times. So let's talk a little bit about
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the Delusion series. It this is a three book series,
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is that correct? It is, and to be clear, it just
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now was released on Amazon as a three book series that you can
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just order in one click. But originally The Delusion came
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out through Tyndale in 2017. It was self published before
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that. So it's been quite a journey.
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And then books two and three followed in the subsequent
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years, but they're just now all packaged together on Amazon.
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Having the heart to help other people that are in this
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spiritual battle, but they they don't know it.
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There's nothing on the news or there's nothing that is in the
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cultural media systems that would ever lend to the
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credibility that you have value. You're wonderfully and fearfully
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created and you're in a battlefield.
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There's literally a war taking place and a ruthless enemy that
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is trying to separate you from anointing, from calling, from
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forgiveness. And so that passion that really
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came, I'm guessing, from your own experience.
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But let's talk about, you know, the book a little bit.
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How has it impacted readers? And where's your heart at with
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what God has LED you to do with this part time?
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Sure. I think it'd be helpful just to
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give a a little explanation of what the book is about in terms
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of the plot. There's a young man who is
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growing up fatherless. You could probably see where
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that theme came from in my own life.
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And his mother is an alcoholic and he has a really hard life.
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So he's cynical and he moves to a new high school that has the
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highest suicide rate in the country.
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He's a smart guy. He wants to be a doctor.
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He just wants to graduate and get out of there.
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But he has his own near death experience and then begins to
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see these monsters. He has no biblical world view.
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He doesn't believe in God. He doesn't have that biblical
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terminology. They're creepers.
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They end up calling him. I say they because he has this,
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this friend that goes through this journey with him, this
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young lady. But Long story short, he becomes
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the one tasked with convincing his classmates that there really
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is something real here. And at the same time, he's
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battling with his own sanity and he's asking really hard
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questions about God. Why, if there's these, he calls
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them Watchmen, but these angels, why don't they show up more?
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Why does God allow bad things to happen?
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Why? Why isn't God doing more?
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These real world questions that we get to walk out and journey
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in an authentic way with Owen, that's his name.
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Owen Edmonds is the main character.
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And so the whole intent was to ask the hard questions, Not to
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be preaching at people, but to gently and lovingly make a case
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for the reality of God, for how personal he is.
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He's not caught up in the traditions and trappings of
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religion. He wants a meaningful
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relationship. But again, even just saying that
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can sound so preachy to certain listeners.
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So to go through Owen's journey across those three books, and I
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must say there's more to come in the series, books four and five
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for sure. To travel through that, it it
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just invites us to consider the real world.
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First of all, that's unseen and secondly, how all this plays out
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in our everyday lives in schools and young people and adults.
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It's really sounds like you're drawing from, you know, life
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experiences and incorporating that into the character to get
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the reader to fall in love with the character, right?
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Because you got to kind of have, you know, this realistic
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approach where they got to have some quirks and some strong
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points and there has to be some adversaries that bring the best
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out of them, right? One of the things you have
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written here is, you know, teenagers are facing emotional
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roller coasters of the struggle, of the rawness and reality of
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dealing with persistent sadness. Have you seen any turn around
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with with readers that have been encouraged or changed through
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what you're presenting? Yes, yes.
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I don't think I could have persevered in this journey
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without that. As a matter of fact, on my
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social media. And then we'll go over that and
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how to spell my name. Laura Gallier GALLIER.
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I'm on Instagram, Tiktok and all those platforms.
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We are getting ready to release a video testimonial by a young
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man who is older now, but when he read the book in 7th grade,
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he was dealing with suicidal thoughts.
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But that perspective shift that he was not only in a war, but
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that he's the prize, that he has so much worth and value that
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there's a fight going on over him, it changed the trajectory
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of his life. And so that's just one example.
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I think it's also important to say that while I was working on
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these books and here I'm championing, you know, the idea
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that these suicidal thoughts are rooted in lies.
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Ultimately from the Evil 1, I had an explosion of mental and
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emotional turmoil, just all this childhood suppressed trauma.
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It was on a specific day, April 8th, 2019 came exploding onto my
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life. It was very physical and that my
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chemicals went crazy, which is what happens when those cortisol
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skyrocket and we're full of fear.
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I realized I had some very wrong beliefs.
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So that was, that was psychology piece and then on top of it, it
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was very demonically charged. I could feel this evil and being
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tempted myself at here I am writing about this, being
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tempted myself to take my life. So I said that to say that this
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is not just theological or clinical for me.
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I walked through that. It was not quick.
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It took about four years before I even felt comfortable and
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normal. I learned that as Christians we
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can be really trite with people, however well meaning and say
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things like, oh, just choose joy or you know, if you had faith,
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you know faith will get you through this.
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And certainly you know, choosing joy and faith are a part of the
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equation, but it really is this nurturing process from God.
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I can get into all of that if we want to, but suffice that to
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say, it's the fruit of my own life and getting victory in
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these areas. And then, yes, the testimonies
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continue to come in, everything from healing marriages to young
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people saying, hey, every time I start to feel depressed, I grab
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this novel because I need that perspective.
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It's meant to point people to the word.
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So you know, toward the Bible, what we mean when we say word.
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It's meant for that, but it's just a great tool that can help
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remind us of what's really going on.
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That Ephesians 6 message That we're not wrestling against
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flesh and blood, but these forces of wickedness in unseen
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high places. Yeah, I can relate so much to
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that. I mean, I'm just jumping out of
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the seams over here as I'm listening to you speak because I
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had a near death encounter. I didn't have a biblical or
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church upbringing, you know, and I have dealt with suicidal
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ideations, but it it's real, right?
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And we have this entertainment culture that they do not want to
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talk about these topics. And the numbers grow and we just
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see the decay of this younger generation.
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And I really feel your heart just and and the way you're
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presenting it, you know, because not everybody wants to be
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smacked with a Bible. A lot of the times people are
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culture shocked. It's like coming out of a dark
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room and the lights on and you're like, ah, turn that light
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down. It's so bright.
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But everybody who's in that room where the lights already on, it
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doesn't seem that drastically bright to them.
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So there has to be some transition.
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And I think it's genius to write, you know, these stories
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that are rooted in faith and overcoming these challenges and
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and the way that you laid out the main character challenged
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with bringing the reality of this demonic and spirit world,
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that's real, you know, and he's wrestling with his own big
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questions. It hits so close to home for me.
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More of those stories need to be talked about and heard today,
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especially through writings, through movies and through
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podcasting. You went through all of this
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yourself. You know you dealt with some
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suicidal ideations. So you're an experiencer, right?
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You have this passion where you understand, hey, this is the
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cost, right? God is going to use me to reach
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people. I have experienced it now
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myself. Where do you find yourself
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sitting today knowing what you know now and and how do you get
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that point across to people that may be on the teeter totter of?
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Is any of this true? Believe it or not, it starts
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back in the eighth grade. If I can tell you just a quick
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story. There I was again, just heart
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for God, but not not living it out, head full of the world,
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doing all kinds of deviant, honestly very deviant things.
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And I have this dream. And in this dream, they're these
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half human, half like horse, like dog, like creatures.
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And they're dressed in bow ties and they're, they look cute and
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it's a movie set and there's parents letting their kids pet
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these creatures. And in the dream, I know these
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are demons and I feel so compelled to warn parents and
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children and students that you, you think they're safe but
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you're not. Well, sure enough, right.
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Then the director comes charging at me in this dream.
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And I know in the dream that is Satan, not just a demon like
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that is the one who fell. That is Satan himself.
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And he is chasing after me. And I know he wants to kill me.
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I run from him. I end up in a trailer like you
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see on set. Keep in mind, I'd never been on
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a movie set in my life. He's closing in.
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Finally. He corners me and in the dream
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I'm like, this is it. I I'm going to be brutally
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murdered. I can feel how much he hates me
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and all of a sudden it's not that I made a decision.
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It's almost like I'm watching myself turn around and I'm
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holding in the air what I described as an eighth grader as
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a sword with a line down the middle, which is a double edged
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sword. I was so clueless, I didn't even
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know that was a type of the word of God.
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But now that director, who'd been, you know, blonde hair and
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handsome, he's this old man shrouded in black.
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And when he sees the sword, not me, the sword, he looks up and
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gasped and cries real tears, real tears.
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And in the dream, I'm like, Oh my gosh, he's so fragile.
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He comes across so intimidating. He's so fragile.
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And I lowered the sword, and he shrank and shrank and shrank,
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and disappeared at my feet. Why did I tell you that story
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where my worst nightmare became Satan's worst nightmare?
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Because we have been working for years on the feature film of the
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delusion that became my life calling.
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We could have made the movie by now if we wanted to do low
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budget or small scale, but the vision God has put in our hearts
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as you only get one chance we're going to do this right?
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So where I found myself sitting right now is working to produce
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a series of movies starting with the delusion.
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So that's huge. That's been amazing and exciting
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and up and down and and learn a lot of the lessons the hard way
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of the movie industry. I also want to mention that out
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of this whole journey came a program called I Am Worthy.
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It's a mental, emotional Wellness and character building
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for students. It's attended to the public
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school. It's based on 21 affirmations of
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worth that quite frankly, I needed to know.
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It was part of my healing. I worked with doctors,
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counselors, people that are way smarter than me, and we came up
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with these lists of 21 affirmations that if we believe
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these things about ourselves, we tend to be mentally and
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emotionally resilient. If we don't believe or or some
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of them we don't, we tend to be struggling mentally and
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emotionally. All that information is at
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worthyprogram.com, but I said that to say I am working on that
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in schools, and that is what you could call really that
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nonfiction side to this message. And whether we've come to know
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Christ or not, it doesn't change the fact that we have priceless
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intrinsic worth. And when we don't believe that,
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that's where Satan attacks. And you can imagine if you don't
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have a father or your parents have let you down, you've been
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wounded. We tend to project that on God.
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Someone says Heavenly Father. And we're picturing the man who
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cheated and walked out or whatever bad thing happened, the
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man who hit me or the man who ignored me, whatever that is.
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And so my heart is that this generation would know the truth
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about the nature of God. The Bible says in him is light
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and no darkness at all. We can't even fathom that
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there's a being that has not one selfish or ulterior motive
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effort. I mean, we don't know anyone
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like that. And yet he's not good.
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And he's wanting to reveal himself as a loving, protective,
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caring, safe father who places immense, priceless value on each
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one of us. Let let's talk a little bit more
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about this emotional Wellness and character building program
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that you have for students You're you're working to get
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this in public schools, is that the idea?
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It is and there's also it can be done in the home, so there's you
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can you can buy it and and watch it yourself.
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It's video based. When we are being raised right,
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like the Bible says, raise a child in the way that they
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should go. And when they grow old, they
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won't depart from it. But we do have a society that
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has no comprehension of the word of God or it.
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I think it's beyond rejecting it.
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A lot of the times I see a preparation in the culture's
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heart that they actually have the audacity to go to war with
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God. I think that's on the horizon,
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that that's the depth of the darkness that we are up against.
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But like you said, the light, right?
23:23
And this is what's profound about what you're doing.
23:26
And what I'm doing and many other people in these areas is
23:29
that as experiencers, you know, when you come across somebody
23:34
who's experienced, you know, whether it's demonic attacks,
23:37
sleep paralysis, just the mental fatigue of just all of this
23:42
crazy chaotic things that are going on in this world.
23:45
When you shine some light into them by slowing down and
23:48
actually spending time with people meeting the need, that's
23:52
when it becomes genuine. You know, I actually wrote one
23:54
of these little quotes in the book I released just recently.
23:58
And it's when you're in danger and I get closer to you rather
24:02
than run away. That's when trust is formed,
24:04
right? And it's like we need more of
24:06
those voices. We need more people that are
24:08
willing to go into these places where it's kind of like the
24:11
trenches, it's the gutter. But this is the heart of Yeshua.
24:15
This is the heart of Jesus, right?
24:17
Leaving the 99 to find the lost one while we find ourselves in a
24:21
country where it feels like 99 are lost.
24:26
So we need a lot of workmen out there in the field.
24:28
So I I just can't express how moved I am by hearing what
24:33
you're doing where your heart's AT and and you're attacking from
24:36
so many levels. For the Kingdom of light to be
24:38
able to Pierce into the public schools, you know saying it
24:42
needs to be present in the home. Bringing this format of of
24:45
writing to challenge the fear mongering narrative to show in
24:49
the midst of these trials and fears that faith and hope can be
24:53
birthed out of that. And I think that's just
24:55
phenomenal. Well thank you.
24:57
And you know that voice of religion that is alive and well
25:00
on the earth that just drives home our shame all the more.
25:03
It tells us to clean up and look the part it's that fake it till
25:06
you make it mentality. But God the Father is saying
25:10
come to me as you are. And we think, well this is just
25:12
too dirty. That's been the the blessing of
25:14
talking about sexual integrity. We call it biblical Sexuality is
25:19
letting people know because sometimes our our biggest shame
25:21
is tied to the area of things that have happened to us or
25:24
things we've done in sexuality. And getting the chance to tell
25:27
people that God is not only is he approachable, his arms are
25:31
wide open and he is calling you to him.
25:34
At the same time, the word occult means secret or hidden,
25:39
and it is not. We know that witchcraft has
25:42
become trendy, and you can imagine if you're in junior high
25:45
and you're feeling left out, which so many of us do in junior
25:48
high, and I'm told that you can cast this spell or you can wear
25:52
this crystal, it's going to make people like you.
25:54
That seems like a form of empowerment, but it's a demonic
25:58
bait and switch. So there really is a need, a
26:01
desperate need, especially when it comes to the supernatural,
26:05
the paranormal, to help young people and adults.
26:08
It's a lot of adults that are into the witchcraft right now to
26:12
recognize the difference between the Angel of light and the real
26:15
light. And one of them is performance
26:17
based and bait and switch promises.
26:20
One thing gives us another. And whereas God, his Kingdom is
26:23
all about authenticity and genuineness and honesty.
26:26
And in my lowest valley I remember the Lord saying to me
26:29
my only part because I was so weak.
26:31
I mean I I could hardly even pray and have faith.
26:35
I was just so beat down mentally and emotionally and attacked.
26:37
And he told me my job was to be authentic.
26:41
Just be authentic. What's your feeling, what you're
26:43
going through, what you're doubting, what you're
26:44
questioning? Just telling me that is so
26:47
opposite of religion and so that's what young people need
26:51
and that's what we all need to know.
26:53
Humanity needs to know the difference between religion and
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that real relationship God's after.
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Yeah, very well said. And it's like this false reality
27:03
overlay, right, Laura? Where it I mean, there's a
27:06
million messages and signals, but when we look at the
27:09
frequencies that are out there, we start to look at the
27:11
poisonings in the food and in the air and in the culture and
27:14
in the language. It's no surprise that the enemy
27:17
is exactly who the Bible says he is.
27:19
He came to lie, to kill and destroy.
27:21
And unfortunately, a lot of the times people don't want to wake
27:25
up to that reality until it knocks on their door.
27:28
But we have this opportunity to be the hands and the feet.
27:31
And you know, you mentioned in your lowest valley, we've gotten
27:36
feedback over the years where people have reached out and
27:38
said, you know, I heard this episode at the right place at
27:42
the right time where you know, you can hear something 100
27:45
times. But sometimes the anointing on
27:47
one person saying what someone else may have heard 100 times,
27:50
it clicks and makes sense for them.
27:52
That's why I believe every single broadcast that we do here
27:55
is edifying, eye opening, encouraging and just shedding
27:58
the light in these dark days that we live in.
28:01
So let's talk a little bit more about, I'm still kind of
28:04
dwelling on this dream that you had in 8th grade.
28:08
You know you talked about like these creatures, right?
28:10
And you know kids can't see it. There's no spiritual
28:12
discernment. They're looking from the
28:14
physical realm only. But God was giving you this
28:17
discerning spirit and showing you in a dream the reality of
28:21
the multi layered functions of truth that were taking place in
28:25
the spirit realm. I just want to dive back into
28:27
that. Yeah.
28:29
I mean, again, sometimes we think of God as not being
28:32
emotional, but he relates to emotion.
28:35
He gave us emotions. Our emotions are meant to bear
28:37
witness with the truth and recoil from the lie.
28:40
And the nature of deception, whether it's the way we feel
28:42
about ourselves or the way we are perceiving as a situation,
28:45
is for our emotions to think something's true.
28:49
You know, there's a way that seems right, but it leads to
28:51
destruction. And so that, yeah, the dream
28:53
there was such a compassion. It wasn't my compassion.
28:56
It's not like I'm some good person.
28:58
It was the compassion of God for the lost and for those who are
29:04
deceived in our befriending evil.
29:07
And we can befriend evil literally through demonic, you
29:11
know, occultic rituals. Or it can be that addiction.
29:14
It can be that pornography, that drug, that friend, literal
29:18
friend that you know is not going the direction you're
29:21
supposed to go. And God comes to us.
29:24
He doesn't just sit around, you know, floating in outer space.
29:27
That's how I used to picture him.
29:28
He comes to us and that's what that dream was.
29:30
It was it was him stepping onto that entertainment platform
29:35
where the devil has had such rule and reign in saying I'm
29:38
taking over, I'm, you know, your your jurisdictions up here, my
29:43
children are stepping into this space and it's so we can be a
29:47
voice of truth and hope as safe and secure voice, which is God's
29:51
voice. And it just makes me think of
29:54
Colossians 2. You know, it talks about Jesus
29:57
disarming the rulers and authorities and putting them to
30:00
an open shame. That's right.
30:02
And we're fighting from a place of victory.
30:05
That's right. I I just love that reminder that
30:09
God is working in and through us to cause his will to come about.
30:12
He's the author and the finisher of her faith.
30:14
So it really does take us off this high horse.
30:17
It allows for the pride to fold and fall low so that we can go
30:21
low and remain in humility where God now can.
30:25
What does the scripture say, Laura?
30:26
In our weaknesses, power is made best known.
30:29
And I really do feel like that's why we go through the the trials
30:32
and all of these dark events and God has never left us, He has
30:37
never forsaken us. But it also there's this process
30:40
of refining and it's just just fascinating to hear what God has
30:46
you doing today and what you've been through.
30:48
I think stirring up the testimonies is so important.
30:51
So let me ask you, what is your perspective on the Nephilim, for
30:56
example, chimeras, you know, the the mixturing of animals and
31:00
humans. We even see this stuff happening
31:02
today in the scientific realm where they're oh, we mixed a pig
31:05
with this or we're growing organs inside of a pig.
31:08
I just, I just have to ask, what are your thoughts on all that?
31:11
Yeah, you know, we're made in God's image and likeness, so it
31:14
would be just like the enemy to try to destroy that, you know,
31:17
one way or another. As far as the actual nephews, I
31:20
don't know. I've studied it.
31:23
I've looked at it from everything.
31:24
And I like to know I I like, I'm one of those people.
31:27
I'm a critical thinker. I like to ask why God's not
31:29
afraid of our wise. But I, I kind of, I go back and
31:32
forth on exactly what the implications are.
31:35
But at the end of the day, we know that we are not meant to be
31:38
altered genetically. And we are, we are fearfully and
31:43
wonderfully made. And when man plays God, bad
31:47
things ultimately happen. And I'm not the authority on
31:51
where that line is with these, you know, different in virtual
31:54
you know, there's fertilization techniques and things.
31:56
And I, I, I wouldn't even be prepared to speak on that.
31:59
But I can just say that when we're altering human DNA, that
32:05
is playing God, and it is not of God.
32:08
And so we definitely want to watch for those those things and
32:12
recognize them as a distortion of what God already made.
32:16
So you talk about teens facing this, the real battle being the
32:20
suicide, right from like ages. I think it was like 14 to like
32:23
24. You know, we have this percent
32:25
percentage of teens taking their own life.
32:28
This is the second leading cause of death for young adults.
32:31
How did we get here right? And you know, bringing the
32:34
gospel, are you seeing a change or a difference with this?
32:38
Knowing that you wrestle with it, went through it yourself
32:41
through the power of prayer and shining the light, exposing the
32:45
darkness, compartmentalizing that darkness, labeling it,
32:48
knowing what it is, not participating with it.
32:51
Do you think that these numbers can turn around?
32:53
To answer your question, how did we get here?
32:55
There's more than one way. There was multiple things
32:57
happening at once. For starters, we've learned for
33:00
decades now in science class that it's unintellectual to
33:03
believe that there's a creator. And so that makes me a cosmic
33:07
coincidence. And then you have political
33:10
agendas that say a life is a life in the womb if the mother
33:13
wants it, if the mother doesn't want it, it's not a life, it's
33:16
an inconvenience and it belongs in the trash.
33:18
And I'm not trying to say that insensitive.
33:20
That can be just such a sensitive issue for those who
33:24
have have walked that path. I'm just saying the mixed signal
33:27
that we we don't have significance, that we are cosmic
33:30
coincidence. Then you add to that the
33:32
breakdown of the family God meant for a mom and a dad to
33:37
love him, love each other and love their children.
33:40
And it creates the security and it just transcends words when we
33:44
are shown that kind of love and security.
33:46
And as someone who you know had divorced parents and again I've
33:48
walked through a divorce, it is, it is very damaging on the soul.
33:53
So you add that to it. Then you've got voices, you
33:56
know, these influencers online that are touting priorities that
34:00
are supposed to make us happy, that do anything but
34:03
overemphasis on appearances, social media likes puts the
34:07
right number to our popularity when we're young and when you
34:11
know, we really are wired for community and always say it's
34:13
it's not bad that we want to fit in.
34:15
It's from God. We were made to be tribes and
34:17
nations. It's just it becomes so toxic
34:20
when we're not accepted, when we're not shown approval and
34:24
we're not included. So when you put all that
34:27
together, you can see how a young person today feels lost
34:32
according to their identity, their very purpose for life.
34:35
And I like to say this not to be trite, but in all of my
34:39
pondering over this and my almost almost 5 decades right
34:45
that I have been on this earth, I have decided that our number
34:48
one purpose in life is to love God back.
34:52
I mean literally, to love God back.
34:54
And when we know him and love him, we naturally make his love
34:59
known. And he can know us.
35:02
We know this. We can know facts, right?
35:04
I mean, God knows how many hairs we have on our head.
35:06
We know certain celebrity names. We know who they are, but we
35:10
don't know them experientially. God wants us to know him
35:14
relationally, experientially, and some of us hear that it's
35:17
like this wall goes up, like, yeah, other people or the world,
35:21
but not me. God can't possibly want to know
35:25
me. And he is saying, yes, I
35:28
absolutely do. And if you haven't been shown
35:31
that from parents or caregivers, or if life has tried to paint a
35:34
different picture of your worth, it's a lie.
35:37
It's a lie. And I do believe that God is
35:40
working among young people and setting the record straight.
35:43
I do believe that in this hour. I agree with you and you have a
35:49
quote here. Young people need a holistic
35:51
spirit, soul and body approach to mental emotional health
35:55
that's honest about the reality of evil.
35:58
I couldn't agree more. You know, I really just, I think
36:02
that holistic approach is really underlooked and you know,
36:05
highlighting that there's there's natural foods that can
36:09
be our medicine. Now I'm not insinuating that a a
36:12
medical doctor is wrong every time, but I think that we're too
36:15
persuaded to just have a quick fix for the side effects of
36:21
whatever we're going through and not getting to the root of it.
36:24
And what you're doing is multi layered in the sense where you
36:27
know what, let's get to the root of it.
36:28
Because it all starts with one of the key things you said a
36:31
minute ago. God is truth, and if we believe
36:35
in His truth and and we don't reject Him from the gate, it's
36:39
much easier for us to understand who we are, get comforted by His
36:43
truth, and find our place. Exactly, Exactly.
36:47
And if you consider and study, I do have my degree in psychology.
36:51
I've always just been interested naturally in psychology.
36:55
Something that is not talked about very much is there really
36:58
is this key culprit in nearly all mental and emotional
37:02
turmoil, whatever the diagnosis, OCD or panic attacks, whatever
37:07
it is. And it's fear.
37:09
It's fear. Now sometimes we can find, wow,
37:12
you have a vitamin D deficiency, for example, and it's causing
37:15
your chemicals to be off. We can start there for sure.
37:18
But a lot of these fears are tied to lies that we believe.
37:20
Like, I am afraid that I am not worthy of love.
37:23
That is a fear. I'm afraid that I'm going to be
37:26
abandoned. I'm afraid that I'm going to be
37:28
exposed as not good enough. These are a lot of times
37:31
subconscious and and we haven't even, you know, recognized that
37:35
that's a fear we're operating out of.
37:37
And so if all we do is turn around and prescribe meds, it is
37:41
going to adjust those chemicals. Sometimes it works, sometimes it
37:44
makes things worse. But it's not going to address
37:47
the fear. And fear is deeply spiritual.
37:50
If you think about how blood entices sharks, fear draws the
37:55
enemy to us. It is the atmosphere of hell is
37:59
fear That is Satan's currency. And so God believe it or not,
38:03
sometimes we think it's faith that drives out fear.
38:06
Certainly faith is part of the formula, but Scripture says it's
38:09
love. It's his love that drives out
38:12
fear. So for every fear we have, God
38:15
has an assurance that's what we need, not empty promises.
38:18
We need an assurance that his love is going to offset that
38:24
fear. For example, if I have a deep
38:25
fear like I did, of being abandoned, God's never going to
38:31
ban me even if everybody else. If my mother and father forsake
38:34
me, the scriptures say the Lord will hold me close, so He wants
38:39
to remedy fear. And that's where healing
38:42
happens, mentally and emotionally.
38:43
That's where we go. You know what?
38:44
I may have been diagnosed as borderline personality disorder,
38:48
but as I've overcome fear, which is a process, I am no longer,
38:53
you know, I no longer have OCDI and the world will say you can't
38:57
get healed of some of these, but that's because the world doesn't
39:00
understand the spiritual realm and they're just not even open
39:04
to God. I'm talking about just
39:06
mainstream as a whole. And so man, it's life changing
39:10
when we realize and and and start to address and tackle the
39:14
fear in our lives. Absolutely.
39:16
I couldn't agree more. A really good friend of the
39:18
show, Doctor Laura Sanger. She also has a degree in
39:21
psychology. And we've talked about fear and
39:24
you know how that can lower the immune system.
39:26
And if we just think at the basic level, if we're fearful,
39:30
we're subjected to all types of low frequency.
39:34
Like the Bible says, do not fear, do not be afraid.
39:37
Look at the placebo effect and medical study.
39:39
Right You could get a sugar pill, but because you believe
39:42
the doctor's giving it to you and it's for arthritis, it's
39:45
going to bring down the swelling and inflammation in the joints.
39:49
Your placebo effect can trick you into healing your body
39:52
yourself. So if we're surrounded by fear,
39:56
of course. Yeah, it's it's a decay, man.
40:00
And you, you said it, perfect love casteth out fear.
40:03
Well what is that perfect love that's in?
40:05
Jesus you guys, we know who the perfect love is.
40:08
We know that we're given access to armor.
40:11
As Ephesian talks about, we have this armor that we can put on.
40:15
You know the enemy recycles, Laura.
40:16
These messages out there in the world over and over again, fear
40:20
mongering. Well, we're going to recycle the
40:22
truth and the word over and over again.
40:25
Reminding people not to be fearful, not to be afraid.
40:28
Going to comment just on that naturopathic approach where not
40:32
everything is a sickness that that can't be defeated.
40:36
Because he who's spiritual, we can discern all things
40:38
spiritual, right? So a lot of this stuff I agree
40:41
with you. There's a spiritual root cause
40:44
of fear and rejection. Yes.
40:47
And there's over 360 verses in the Bible that tell us not to
40:50
fear. But they also tell us why most
40:53
of the time the commandment not to fear is coupled with for I am
40:57
with you. That's the game changer.
41:00
You could even say it like this if God wasn't with us.
41:03
Yeah. Be afraid, right?
41:05
I mean, there's a lot to fear because he is with us.
41:09
And again, some of us, we're we're trying to grasp it.
41:12
We have head knowledge, maybe we even have doctrinal knowledge,
41:16
But life experiences and lack of faith and you name it, We're
41:20
just having a hard time internalizing that or even
41:23
feeling worthy of that. Which, of course, biblically
41:25
speaking, we're not worthy. But that's what Jesus does,
41:29
right? He makes us worthy.
41:30
He's the one who who died for our sins and makes us worthy,
41:33
allows us to stand pure before God.
41:36
And so if your listeners are hearing anything, let them hear
41:38
me say that God wants to be close to you.
41:41
He is not repulsed by any of us. We've never done anything that
41:45
has caused him to love us less or disqualify us from receiving
41:51
his son, and we can never be good enough.
41:54
That is so intuitive to say. I know what I'll do.
41:56
I'll I'll go out and serve in the church or give to charity.
41:59
I'm going to be a good person. Now you try.
42:02
It's not going to be long before those selfish motives that are
42:05
part of that sin nature come up. It's not about behaving better.
42:09
It really is about a relationship.
42:11
And it's amazing how through that love relationship, we,
42:13
like, look up one day and go, you know what, I haven't had the
42:16
same sinful urges I used to wrestle with.
42:19
It's amazing how God's love can heal us in ways that we're not
42:24
even reaching. For those old counterfeits.
42:26
That's what sin is. It's a counterfeit.
42:28
It's meeting some kind of need, or we wouldn't be doing it, but
42:31
it's it's meeting a legitimate need in an illegitimate
42:34
consequential way. That's really what the devil
42:38
does. The devil's not a creator in my
42:39
opinion. He parallels what God does.
42:42
He likes to come in, distort, corrupt, flip things around and
42:46
mimic what God does. You know, sin is fun for a short
42:49
season, but it's a short season. So let me ask you the power of
42:55
prayer just even in like, your own life and having this
42:58
relationship with the Lord, it's so much more than just, oh, show
43:01
up at church, clock in, get your little sticker for showing up on
43:05
Wednesday or Sunday. I mean, this is a lifestyle,
43:08
right? We're living in a battle.
43:10
We know that the word is truth and the power of prayer.
43:13
I just want you to share, you know, a story or just comment on
43:16
the power of prayer in your own life.
43:17
Sure. Well, as a child, remember, I
43:20
had received Christ. I I had the Holy Spirit.
43:23
My my soul was a mess and needed mine renewal.
43:26
But I would feel drawn as a child to go out into my backyard
43:31
and that's where I would talk to God.
43:33
I didn't grow up in church. And I have, you know, really
43:36
positive things to say about church.
43:39
We need a faith community that's healthy and and good for us.
43:42
But at the same time, what I didn't have was all this
43:46
tradition put on me. And so I learned to hear from
43:48
God and that's what I want to say about prayer.
43:51
Prayer is 2 way communication. We go to him.
43:54
We can be just as authentic. We can let him know I'm you
43:57
know, I'm frustrated. I don't understand this guy.
43:59
We can ask him questions, but then there's something to be
44:02
said for taking a pen and paper usually helps.
44:05
Sit there with whatever spiral piece of paper and listen and
44:08
learn to hear his voice. Everything he tells us is going
44:12
to line up with his word. It can be hard at first for like
44:16
was that my voice or his voice? It does take continual practice.
44:20
And then looking at what we're hearing, is it line up with the
44:22
word. If we have other godly people
44:24
who know the word, they can help guide us.
44:26
And certainly there are resources out there about
44:28
hearing from God. But we live in such a noisy
44:31
culture with all of our music and TV and screens.
44:33
And so a lot of times, right when we go to pray, man, our
44:36
whole body, talk about that spirit, soul, body, our body
44:39
will start jonesing for noise. We're not trained in being quiet
44:44
and being calm. And God has this very calm.
44:46
I'm going to use the word energy about him.
44:48
He does, you know, have a personality and he's very calm
44:52
and he's full of peace. And when we're used to being
44:54
hectic and frantic and stressed, it can be this new thing to
44:58
learn to come into his rhythm. But talking to God, you know
45:02
about anything, all things on the go, absolutely.
45:06
But I would just big piece of advice would be to set aside
45:09
time. My phone is away from me, media
45:12
is off. I'm alone.
45:13
I don't feel like someone's listening to me, you know, which
45:16
would make me self-conscious. I can be completely authentic
45:19
with God. And then after you pour your
45:21
guts out to him and tell him everything and ask him for his
45:25
help and everything you need, listen, listen and see if you
45:28
won't get even a mental picture or one word.
45:33
Yeah, it's so powerful. It just makes me think, you
45:36
know, I was listening to an audio journal from doctor Chuck
45:39
Missler recently, and he says if you've ever questioned anything
45:43
going on, you have a prayer life to keep a secret journal that
45:47
you never show to anybody else. So you can be as authentic as
45:49
you possibly can be, knowing hopefully there's there's never
45:53
a reader. And he talked about writing in
45:55
that and then waiting in that quiet place for God's response.
46:00
And that needs to be promoted. We need a billboard that
46:03
literally says that, you know, turn off your cell phone, get
46:06
back into prayer, get into that quiet place.
46:08
Because I know a lot of the times the Spirit will move
46:11
through that still small voice with me.
46:13
And then there's other times where I get a tugging.
46:15
It's like a fire dwelling up inside of me and things will
46:19
just come out of my mouth sometimes.
46:20
And I'm like, well, God, you wanted me to say that.
46:22
Not all the time. A lot of the times it's you know
46:25
me thinking out loud, but God does move in these ways.
46:27
But it comes with that relationship.
46:29
So I love the way that you depicted that.
46:32
And even as a young child, like your first experience with
46:35
prayer is going out into the authentic creation.
46:39
We spend so much time in fake light and fake environments.
46:45
Grounding is back on the horizon.
46:47
You know, Doctor Manzo has been on for a three-part series thus
46:50
far. You know, we've been talking
46:51
about some of the more fringe things.
46:53
You know, Doctor Robert Rodesh has been on.
46:55
We've talked about, you know, energy and healing frequencies.
46:58
And a lot of times people like, oh, that's new age, what are you
47:00
talking about? And it's like, I think there's a
47:02
religious spirit that's boxing people in because it's the glory
47:06
of God to conceal a matter. But but it's the duty of these
47:09
Princess and kings to seek this stuff out.
47:11
And I really do think that we're on this cusp, Laura, where we're
47:15
going to start to see a generation of people understand,
47:18
you know what, God, I'm going to seek him for myself in spirit
47:22
and in truth, I'm going to allow people to speak right.
47:25
Like pastors still have a role. We're not saying disown the
47:28
church. We are the church.
47:29
We're the body. It's not a building, it's the
47:32
body. But people are going to actually
47:33
start to seek on a level where it is so genuine and authentic
47:37
that we're going to have a generation of Joshua and
47:40
Caleb's. That's my opinion.
47:42
Not everybody agrees with me on that.
47:43
But I do believe that being led by the Spirit is building these
47:48
fundamental blocks where, you know, we're loving our neighbor,
47:51
we're loving our brothers by actually inculcating the society
47:55
around us, not by force. But the Bible says, Laura, be as
47:58
wise as a serpent and as harmless as a dove.
48:01
Well, the serpent, the Nakash, was the wisest of all the
48:05
animals in the field. So to be writing books that
48:08
captivate people's minds and to recycle good thought processes
48:13
back into the youth and into the elder generation, and speaking
48:17
these words of life, attacking things from all these different
48:19
angles, is imperative in my opinion.
48:22
And you're doing just that. Well, thank you and and I love,
48:25
I love how you said that and it is a lot of times just going
48:28
back to the basics of getting outside fresh air, I'm a huge
48:32
proponent of eye contact. It's amazing how infrequently we
48:37
look people in the face and we've gotten used to talking to
48:39
people as they stare at their screen or they're talking to us.
48:43
We're looking at our screen and that's rude, that's
48:46
inconsiderate. And so getting back to some of
48:49
the basics of relationship, of prioritizing real face to face
48:54
communication, these are, you know, not not hugely profound
48:58
and yet can be life changing. I guarantee there's listeners
49:00
right now that don't realize how much they're hurting just for
49:03
lack of some hugs and eye contact.
49:05
It goes such a long way and parents today can be so busy and
49:09
they mean well. They're so busy providing and
49:11
keeping up with the demands of their own life, which is
49:13
understandable, but that we're not providing our our kids that
49:17
or our family or our closest friends, and we really need to
49:20
get back to that. So I want to ask you, what is
49:24
your favorite Bible story at this point in time?
49:27
Is there one that sticks out like it's just the heartthrob,
49:31
something that has inspired you even in your personal life and
49:34
in your writings? Yes, I love the Genesis account
49:38
from the beginning through the fall.
49:41
I mean, there is so much there. So, you know, for example, on
49:47
the day that God made the sky and separated the earth from the
49:52
heavens, it doesn't say He saw that it was good.
49:56
I mean it. That seems like the littlest
49:58
thing. But you're like, why every day
49:59
you say it was good. And I I asked the Lord again, I
50:02
encourage us to do this. Lord.
50:04
What? Why didn't you say it was good?
50:07
Now this can only be proven out in heaven someday.
50:09
I can't prove this. But what I felt He said is
50:12
because I understood the eventual separation from heaven
50:15
and earth. And it's not that it was bad.
50:18
He didn't say this, the sky was bad.
50:21
It's just interesting that he didn't say it was good.
50:23
And I'm just giving that as one example.
50:24
But I've been able to extrapolate so many practical
50:27
things about the nature of God, the nature of man, the tactics
50:32
the enemy used at the fall, and how they're still so relevant.
50:36
He's still using them today. And so it's one of my favorite
50:39
things when I get to talk to students to teach on is right
50:42
there out of the first few chapters of Genesis.
50:45
And then I go on my rant of how, you know, the science class
50:49
would try to tell us that it's unintellectual to believe that.
50:51
And I if you allow me to be so bold, I I feel that the the
50:55
concept of evolution is unintelligent and I could
50:58
expound on that if I needed to. That's not to put anybody down
51:01
or call anyone dumb or anything like that.
51:04
I'm just very passionate about the fact that we have a creator,
51:09
and that creation testifies to a creator in some unmistakable
51:13
ways. Yeah, you're speaking to the
51:16
right audience here. I mean, we've had like Dan
51:17
Duvall on from Discovering Truth.
51:20
You know, we're like the heavens Shamayim and the Hebrew and
51:23
you're you're alluding to this thing that God didn't say it was
51:25
good in Genesis and that's profound because there's
51:28
elemental that's a region. You know the Prince of the power
51:32
of the air is the devil. So fascinating how you just drop
51:35
that little gem just looking at Genesis and it already fits into
51:39
these other big climactical points of just connecting puzzle
51:44
pieces together throughout the rest of these past episodes.
51:47
So I just, I'm I'm really enjoying this conversation with
51:50
you. The production of your book,
51:53
it's going to be made into a featured film.
51:56
It is being made into a feature film.
51:58
Let's recap on that real quick. Yes, thanks for asking.
52:00
We are in what's called the development phase.
52:03
So we're taking the script to a whole new level.
52:05
I'm partnering with a guy did my very best over the years, but
52:09
partnering with a guy who's just an amazing scriptwriter and
52:13
we've raised some funds and making the right connections in
52:17
the industry and it just really been praying like who are these
52:20
people that are going to be this team?
52:23
And so the hope is that by next year we're in production.
52:28
God alone knows his perfect timing, but we're certainly
52:31
closer today than we ever have been and special effects have
52:35
come so far. It's just going to be incredible
52:38
to bring the epic battle between demons and angels to that
52:43
cinematic experience. And you think it would have been
52:45
done by now because it's kind of like this quintessential
52:48
expression of good and evil, right, Demons and angels.
52:51
But I feel like God has reserved that space.
52:53
He's held it so that it didn't get told wrong.
52:56
I'm not saying there's never been any movies, but there I
52:58
haven't seen any blockbuster movies with demons and angels.
53:01
It feels like he's holding that space and that he's going to
53:04
present that in a biblical way. That's the other thing.
53:07
We could partner with various production companies, but then
53:10
they're they're going to want to take the story in the direction
53:12
we don't want to go. So I appreciate your prayers.
53:16
I mean, you heard that dream I had in the eighth grade.
53:17
This is not a light thing to walk into this territory and,
53:22
you know, set up shop, so to speak.
53:24
But we know that it's not by power or might, but by the
53:27
spirit of God. But if if the Lord puts it on
53:28
your heart, please do pray about that.
53:31
And then certainly on my website lauragallier.com GALL i.e. r.com
53:36
you can sign up for my E newsletter and stay posted on
53:40
the journey. And also you could just sign up
53:42
to download the first chapter of the Delusion for free.
53:45
And we'll keep you posted on the movie making Journey if you do
53:48
that. And I highly recommend that you
53:51
guys go to Laura's website. You can also find details in the
53:54
show notes on that support. What's going on here?
53:57
Because this is bigger than just, it's not one person
54:00
leading this thing. I literally see behind the
54:03
scenes. I've talked with Hollywood
54:04
producers all the way to the guy next door and everybody in
54:07
between. And literally I have been seeing
54:10
this kind of, like movement where it's, it's starting to
54:13
form these connections that are going to honor God.
54:17
It's like God is reserving. Like you said it, Laura, for
54:20
such a time as this, we haven't actually seen great movies be
54:24
done through the big production companies that are biblically
54:28
accurate, right? But now we're we're kind of
54:31
boiling up to this point where people really want to know
54:34
what's my purpose, Why am I here?
54:36
What's really going on? Is God, real, and entertainment?
54:40
You got to think about how heavy the entertainment is today.
54:45
Kids walking around looking at their cell phones, even when
54:48
they're on vacation with a beautiful view.
54:50
That's natural in the background.
54:52
That's where we're at. So if we have to use these tools
54:55
to be able to reach people, I think that God is also going to
54:58
honor that and allow us to do so.
55:00
Because you know, technology, it's just the time that we're
55:05
living in that it's it's never really been like this before
55:08
where we have supercomputers in our pockets.
55:10
So to have movies, to have podcasts, to have these messages
55:14
going out and infiltrating the Airways and saying, you know
55:17
what, we're going to bring you guys good entertainment, driven
55:19
by the gospel, by the word. And I love what you said a
55:23
minute ago, Laura, about, you know, we don't just want anybody
55:26
picking up and working with us because they want to morph
55:29
things and change things. The enemy wants to change things
55:33
out of resonating with a deep biblical, eternal truth.
55:37
So I believe it's all going to come together and it's all going
55:40
to work together. And I think you'll be pleasantly
55:43
surprised to find a lot of agreement with the audience here
55:47
on The Mustard Seed. Yeah, I so appreciate that.
55:50
And I love what you said. It's not just one person, it was
55:52
just me and the dream because it's a personal journey, but
55:55
it's a whole army of us and there's a place for creatives.
55:58
Unfortunately, in church, a lot of times it just there's not a
56:01
lot of room for for creative people to express their
56:04
giftings. But the Lord gives us those
56:06
creative talents whether we write or sing or do, art or
56:09
build. I mean, there's no end, right,
56:11
to the the talents we can have and just know if you'll commit
56:14
that to the Lord and determined to serve him one way or another
56:18
with it, he will honor that he's given us those talents for
56:22
reason and don't let anything you know, squash or hope.
56:24
I've gotten so much criticism Oh my goodness, on my work and
56:28
really a lot of it made my work better.
56:30
When you kind of lick your wounds and take about 24 hours
56:34
to heal. I know what the editor is at
56:35
Tyndale, that it was more red than than black on my manuscript
56:39
with their corrections and it heard it first and then you know
56:42
your pride or ego, whatever that is, gets a little wounded your
56:44
feelings. And then it's like you know what
56:46
they know what they're talking about.
56:47
So let's do it. Let's start applying these
56:49
changes. And if you'll be teachable and
56:51
you'll be instructable and you'll be willing to die to
56:55
that, that lie, that things happen overnight.
56:58
I mean that is definitely the exception, not the rule and
57:01
certainly my own life. This is.
57:02
I'm over a decade guys working on this screenplay and project
57:06
has been over a decade since I first self published the book.
57:10
So persevere and keep using your gifts and it will bear fruit and
57:14
have eternal impact. Psalm 62, verse one truly My
57:20
soul silently waits for God. From him comes my salvation.
57:24
He only is my rock and my salvation.
57:28
He is my defense. I shall not be greatly moved,
57:32
Laura. I just want to say I'm
57:34
supporting what you're doing. I'm going to encourage the
57:38
listeners here to get a copy of the Delusion and to go to your
57:42
website and just to be in prayer.
57:44
And if you guys go as far as to donate and reach out to Laura to
57:49
help get this thing produced, you know, we really do believe
57:52
that God is going to move in a new way.
57:54
Religious people, it's going over top of their head.
57:57
They're not going to be able to comprehend what God is doing,
57:58
but that's OK. We have never waited to move
58:01
forward because of the acceptance of the rest of
58:04
everybody. Being a pioneer does require to
58:07
go into uncomfortable spaces and to stir the pot, and I think
58:12
you're doing that, Laura. Just plug in real quick where
58:15
people can find you. You can always reach me through
58:17
my website. Laura Laura Gallier GALL i.e.
58:22
r.com. I do check my own messages and I
58:25
do have a nonprofit Gen. 61 Generation 61.
58:29
Those will both take you right there.
58:31
If you Google that. I can't accept donations for
58:34
this. We can and certainly through my
58:37
website. You're welcome to do that.
58:38
lauragaller.com. Those links would be there.
58:41
You can message me and just appreciate again all your
58:44
support. It's just wonderful and and
58:47
definitely this is meant to be something that young people grab
58:50
hold of and champion and take ownership.
58:53
And so I'm just so excited to connect with a young audience.
58:58
And that is it. That's the show, you guys.
59:00
I'm going to ask you to share this one with your friends,
59:02
family members, Co workers. Share it with your doctor.
59:04
Share it with your pastor coming to you from southeastern
59:08
Pennsylvania. God bless and goodbye.
59:18
I don't need nothing. I just need you.
59:24
If this is my Caesar, pray I'll give it to you.
59:29
Blessings that you give what you Pour them out.
59:33
Dip your finger in the water. Cool my tongue.
59:36
Let your worship proceed from out my mouth.
59:40
Dissel on earth. Let it be overcome.
59:43
Run to you. I run to you.
59:47
Run to you I run, I run. Run to you.
59:51
I run to you. Run to you.
59:55
Run through your son. Humble themselves and seek my
59:58
face. Kneeling they pray.
1:00:00
Turning from the wickedest ways I can hear from heaven knows who
1:00:05
caught by my name. Self forgiven.
1:00:07
He is risen. Call me back That Kingdom with
1:00:09
them. That's the fact that Trump be
1:00:11
with them. We alive.
1:00:12
We caught up with them. That's revive the dead or risen.
1:00:15
That's a stat. That's a million.
1:00:16
That's a billion. That's a train.
1:00:18
I can't count it. That's a big alpha, You know
1:00:23
that? They hit me up like a rabbi.
1:00:28
Put me down, zip me up, Then high five.
1:00:30
Then against the lost set of my Sinai.
1:00:32
Written on my heart of a since Christ God.
1:00:33
Then he rose up from the grave. Lovers made a way save by the
1:00:36
blood, and never know about the name Jesus.
1:00:38
Blessings that you give. Would you pour them out?
1:00:41
Dip your finger in the water, Cool my tongue.
1:00:45
Let your worship proceed from my mouth.
1:00:48
This hell on earth. Let it be overcome.
1:00:52
Run to you, I run to you. Run to you.
1:00:57
I I need some time. More than any sun, I stay losing
1:01:07
faith. If you lead the way, we will be
1:01:09
just fine. Hit these needs of mine.
1:01:10
How about saving face? You have saving grace that I
1:01:12
need to find. Searching.
1:01:13
Now you're blind. What more can I take?
1:01:14
Life. A piece of cake.
1:01:15
When you chase your piece of pie you'll get the crumbs of meat
1:01:25
and mine it. Hit the knees Some weep and cry
1:01:29
gnashing teeth. Atheists to the Catholic priest
1:01:31
equalized. I know you gave me purpose of
1:01:34
this one thing. I know I lean on you for
1:01:36
courage. Can't do this thing alone.
1:01:39
And I am far from perfect faith. And you can make me home before
1:01:42
the judge. I know the verdict.
1:01:44
Jesus. Cover up my soul of my soul.
1:01:46
Of my lessons that you give. Would you pour them out.
1:01:50
Keep your finger in the water. Cool my song.
1:01:53
Let your worship proceed from out my mouth.
1:02:04
Wow, you're full of surprises, too.
1:02:06
I felt so unprepared because I I really was diving into your
1:02:10
biography and I'm like, looking at all of this stuff you've
1:02:12
done. And I'm like, wow, this is a
1:02:14
divine appointment. I if.
1:02:17
I feel the same way. You do a great job and I I catch
1:02:19
myself like leaning forward and talking to you a lot.
1:02:21
I'm like back up, back up. I'm so sorry if you have a lot
1:02:24
of post editing. Pray.
1:02:26
I'll give it to you.