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GX Australia · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  we've done it again what did we do we we went to another Expo oh we did we did
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  good times it's our second one for the year isn't it is it only second I feel
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  like we've done a lot more no I guess not no oh it is quite early in the year
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  yeah yeah yeah welcome to multiple nerdgasms convention
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  coverage should we introduce ourselves sure my name is Matt I'm Jenna I'm Luke
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  and we are haven't done that in ages multiple no get our G gasm offshoot
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  episode of multiple nerdgasm yeah so where have we been this weekend we went
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  to GX Australia yeah is it just GX now I
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  dropped the gamer X well all the websites say GX I wonder do you think
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  they did they on purpose cuz it's more than just gay it's yeah maybe it's kind
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  of everything it's lgbti now is it yeah that's right it is but they also made a
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  point of making it you know it's for everybody yeah maybe the they dropped
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  all of those connotations a little bit did you guys feel welcome yeah I did
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  actually I always feel welcome yeah yeah no I had a good time yeah so did I
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  everybody there was really great yeah yeah now I have to start by saying they
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  were so pleasant to deal with in regards to getting media passes yeah it is the
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  best experience I have had so far so thank you Joshua yeah though were very
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  accommodating yeah I mean it it was well organized Joshua Meadows and Liam esler
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  those are the two guys who organized it yeah they did a good job yeah they did a
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  great job it was it was a very small convention yeah I only went to the one
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  day yeah yeah yeah because I had to come back to cam yeah yeah as you said it was
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  a small convention it was not uh it was not like PX or or one of the other big
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  conventions or RTX that was in the same space you know a month ago yeah it was a
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  huge difference in feel from RTX cuz RTX was just packed out there were people
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  everywhere it didn't feel it didn't feel comfortable to be anywhere yeah it was a
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  really nice place yeah I mean I don't think they expected it to be anything
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  like the you know the same enormous crowds or anything like that they said
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  that they wanted it to be quite small because it's a bit overwhelming to have
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  too many people there yeah it's it's a lot easier to keep crowds and control
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  and yeah there's a lot that I liked about this over the others I can
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  understand you know that that they can't all be like this like there's no way PX
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  is going to ever be a small little thing no even though I maybe it started out
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  that small but yeah it was nice especially you know like walking the
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  main hall and looking at the vendors and and stuff in the main hall checking out
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  the games and stuff like that it was nice to not be crowded and jostled and
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  to be able to take your time yeah you could spend a lot more time playing the
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  game and talking to the developer or to be Hest yeah the atmosphere was just
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  good had a good time I think the next one will help it find its feed a little
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  bit more of course yeah yeah yeah this was its first year and um it was totally
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  crowdfunded so there was a Kickstarter for for it they made 55,000 just over
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  55,000 um which is which is pretty good because I don't think the marketing was
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  huge yeah um most of that actually uh they have a breakdown of where all that
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  money went 43% of that was just for the venue oh wow wow okay so the Australian
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  Technology Park is not cheap no I guess not oh makes sense oh it's a big area I
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  guess if you want to book the whole thing out what happens if no one's using
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  it like I've only ever been to two things there yeah yeah same so Wonder
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  what it's been used for before well they did have a blacksmithing class on the
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  way in we were had to walk by that that was unusual so what was your favorite
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  thing about it well mine was actually I I nearly beat a developer at his own
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  game oh that was terrific he was so cocky and confident we played this game
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  called screen cheet by Samurai punk you play as an invisible character it's kind
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  of like golden eye you're invisible and you have to look at other people's
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  screens to find out where they are to kill them yes so you um you you'll never
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  see the other players in the game world but you can look cuz it's split screen
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  you can look at where they are from their perspective to figure out where
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  they are yes and all the levels are different colors like the levels of one
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  uh area are different colors so you can kind of tell yeah what they're between
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  and when you kill them their body appears and you can see the body but
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  until that point you can only see you know if they shoot you can see where the
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  shots came from and then yeah like by looking at their screen you can kind of
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  figure out where they are but it's it's a cool game it's a good concept really
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  like that the bodies stayed they were they were so floppy yeah yeah it was
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  good I was enjoying it cuz I was just beating everyone yeah you kicking our
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  asses yeah we even teamed up against Luke right and still couldn't beat him
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  yeah three versus one actually that just makes it easier for me yeah it just goes
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  to show that you were a Sant at cheating when you were younger yep and probably
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  continued to this day yeah no I don't cheat I I don't like cheating because
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  you don't play I don't Playmore yeah I tried to play split screen a little
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  while ago I can't do it anymore apart from that game where you have to do it
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  yeah we tried playing gears the new the re-release of Gears split screen and you
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  can't do it so do you want to talk us through your your epic battle with the
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  developer well you all asked him if you think he could beat me and he's gone
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  I've got 800 hours in this game yeah I can beat him so we set up a one V1 and I
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  was winning for most of that match he even chose a new map yeah yeah like I've
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  already played the game twice before and he goes oh we'll throw it on a new map
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  that you don't know to make it easier for him I think if I had of cuz I didn't
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  even worry about changing weapons cuz you start off with this musket thing
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  that's the only gun I've ever blund the bus it's only weapon I've ever used so I
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  just stuck with that and at the end he goes yeah that's probably like the it's
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  a good weapon but it's everything else is better than yep he beat me by one
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  point in the end so the moral of the story is do not challenge Luke to
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  anything yeah video game related if you challenge him to a foot race you'll be
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  fine oh you'll kick my ass um I enjoyed that I enjoyed the couple of panels we
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  went to oh the role playing panel was fantastic yeah definitely that was
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  amazing to be in the room with some of the guys who have created some of my
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  favorite games yeah it's great like the original Fallout yep Dragon Age got the
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  shape David Gator's hand afterwards and tell him that I like Dragon Age and I
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  couldn't think of anything else to say cuz I suck oh man that was like the most
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  embarrassing encounter I've ever had I was like I hate it when I get a mental
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  BL I'm so sorry that I spoke to you sir yeah that's why I tend not to no he was
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  great he was really really friendly he was really friendly yeah that was a
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  great panel it was interesting they were talking mostly I mean the whole the
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  whole event was focused on diversity and and making diverse people more welcome
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  because gaming does tend to be for various reasons kind of a straight white
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  people's medium and so a lot of the panels were focused around that theme
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  like making it more inclusive uh this one was particularly good I thought
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  because they handled everything well and they had some really good ideas about
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  how to do that and there was no there was no negativity cuz I think sometimes
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  it seems like those conversations can get very negative and there's not a
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  whole lot of solutions presented I don't know why that is and it's one of the
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  things that I feel like as a straight
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  white male I'm very well represented so one of the things that I actually got
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  out of it was like throughout the day and the hearing people talk was I I
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  probably got a bit more of an understanding now about why people are
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  really wanting to have this inclusion in games I agree with theity I agree as
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  well I I was I was a little bit on the fence about it before because it seems
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  like everybody's argument is always just aggressive rather than offering a
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  solution yeah I I think the problem is when we hear about it it's it's on
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  Twitter or it's in a news article and it's always associated with some outrage
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  we never we're not exposed to it daytoday in a positive way right and
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  nobody's really saying here's what we should do to make it better it's always
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  just like someone needs to make it better and that doesn't help this
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  particular thing is really bad and it's like okay I don't know yeah it's it's
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  negative yeah and there was a panel that we went to yesterday that was like that
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  yeah I didn't so much enjoy that panel it was the gender in video games panel
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  was that the name the title of it yeah that was gendering games yeah I felt
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  like they had some very good points but I also felt like it it was very uh
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  finger pointy and especially towards Luke yeah every guided Fedora are the
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  enemy well we know that cuz that's a Trope but it was just funny to hear them
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  disparage you know the generalization of uh of people and how people are
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  individuals and you shouldn't make assumptions about groups of people and
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  then to make a a general just a sweeping generalization about menoras and then
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  and obviously it was a joke and we know it was a joke and it was fine but it but
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  Luke from the back going hey what did I do that that was probably my favorite
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  moment of yesterday yeah so they made a joke that said that uh the diversity in
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  gaming will probably upset people wearing fedoras and everyone had a laugh
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  and it's a funny joke because that is a a kind of a a silly internet joke except
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  Luke was the only person in the room wearing a fedora and so and then they
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  realized and apologized to him and it I don't know it just felt like ironic yeah
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  exactly because she was going on about not generalizing in yeah yeah and you
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  know and just to be clear on that we don't care we're just we're
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  not we don't expect her to apologize or anything I just think no I didn't think
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  anything of it no it was it was very funny but it just kind of proved to me
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  that they make just as bad of generalizations yeah it's just a human
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  thing and we can get better at it but everybody does it and it's not fair to
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  to to point the finger all the time now one thing I did quite get at of that
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  which they said was um with our Dragon Age with the transgender character yeah
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  that was such a good thing cuz while a lot of players of video games are quite
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  older there are still a lot of children who play them and who actually have like
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  someone who is Young playing a game seeing a trans trended character and
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  starting to feel that's okay that's Norm normal yeah and that makes it a bit
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  easier for them to deal with it I never thought of that before yeah well it's
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  hard to change the minds of people who have already come to conclusions but for
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  young Generations if you just treat stuff as normal they only see it as
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  normal yeah and I feel like a lot of the things that we talk about at the you
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  know like they talk about these events and stuff like that I feel like we're as
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  a group like as in I'm talking about us personally my friends we're quite
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  accepting of people um it's just that some of this stuff is new to us as well
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  that's right and and we make mistakes like for example I make assumptions when
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  I meet somebody like I say oh hey man kind of thing and I appreciate now that
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  that can be upsetting for somebody but on the other it's new to me right and
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  there there are things like gender fluidity for example that I hadn't heard
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  of until recently and I didn't know was a thing so now that I do I'm coming to
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  understand it but it does take some time yeah and also I feel like too the people
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  discussing these things often talk amongst themselves on Twitter or on
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  Facebook and then when they they get out that maybe they forget that I don't know
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  not everyone that there's not really an audience on on Twitter and Facebook yeah
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  not everybody is as familiar as they are with these things and so some someone
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  takes offense to something that's not meant to be offensive yeah they get
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  defensive about it and again I'm not making excuses there are people on the
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  internet who are just and there are people in life that are just it's actually part of the
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  reason why I don't use social media but they're on both sides sometimes and I
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  think it's good to remember that and from my point of view I feel like I
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  learned that there are a lot of valid points being made that sometimes get
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  drowned out by the on both sides yeah I I think going to an event like
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  this was a lot better than trying to read up on it on Twitter or any social
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  media yeah the problem with Twitter is that the most outrageous stuff floats to
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  the surface and the people who are being reasonable and rational generally syn to
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  the bottom because that's not as interesting yeah it's the same with
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  YouTube videos on the subject the louder and more aggressive people are the ones
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  that you hear yeah so anyway yeah overall I feel like for me it was a
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  positive EXP experience and sorry not to disparage the people in that the gender
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  and video games panel completely they had some good points I just feel like
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  maybe they didn't I think maybe the the the format of it didn't allow them to
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  reach point I think they actually even apologized for that because um they were
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  meant to have someone in there Giving Them Questions a moderator yeah and they
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  were basically just thrown in there on their own and just started talking it
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  kind of felt they were prepared talking about Concepts that to me I wanted to
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  ask questions but I felt like I I didn't quite even know what ask and there was a
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  lot of like assumed knowledge where it's just a bit vague to me and I guess I
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  just didn't understand it and then someone asked a question I thought was
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  very good they were talking about the representation of women in films and how
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  when you see strong women they feel like often the woman is just a man is a man's
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  character put a woman in the role it's a man yeah it's a man who's been portrayed
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  by a woman and the example they used was um alien yeah because that was Ripley
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  was originally a male character and they just gone let's make that character
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  female right and I know that and that's true my question was I'm like do you
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  think that because you know that it was written as a man or do you think that
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  because because the character is actually written to be a man and they
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  just put you know sigoni Weaver in the role and I didn't quite understand how
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  to how you fix that right it wasn't just alien either it was um all horror movies
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  that she said the Trope is that like the strongest of the women survive and well
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  what's wrong with that yeah what's wrong with having a strong female character
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  isn't that the goal right and the guy asked the question he asked was you said
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  that if putting masculine characteristics onto a woman or or
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  characteristics that are generally considered to be masculine onto a woman
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  doesn't make a strong female character but is it not true that they're just
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  human characteristics and they're not necessarily masculine or feminine and
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  it's it's more kind of stereotyping that says the strong woman
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  is masculine and I was like yeah it was a really good question yeah and then I
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  just really don't think that they they addressed it at all she kind of
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  deflected it well I I don't know if she quite understood what he meant I I don't
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  know what's my favorite panel ever no no I hate all panels to tell the truth I I
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  really liked the RPG one later though no the second people start asking questions
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  oh when audience members ask questions oh no they should not ask questions no
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  it is horrible they weren't the worst questions I've heard though no they
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  weren't the worst some were actually quite good but I just I dread that every
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  time that the audience gets ask questions hi um excuse me thank you for
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  coming I've talked to on this about this on the podcast I'm sure but the worst
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  one I ever heard was it the first packs I ever went to in Seattle and a guy got
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  up and started talking about his script that he'd written about a science
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  fiction film he went on and on and to the point where it was this was in the
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  penny arcade Q&A so Mike and Jerry actually just sat down on the stage as
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  this guy was talking and everyone was just kind of like chuckling and going
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  when is this going to finish talking about his script and how he he worked
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  through it it's kind of like Firefly meets this and for ages and then at the
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  end he said anyway my question is um I know that will weaton is here do you
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  think you could ask him to ask Felicia Dave if she'll get in touch with me
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  about um being in the pilot for the for the script that's terrible and they were
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  like no next question yeah they're like no I'm moving on so embarrassing yeah
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  but the people get up there and ask about jobs or they'll ask a question
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  where it's so specific and they're just trying to show that hey I'm a super fan
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  I'm going to ask you a question that no one else knows all that means is no one else
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  cares yeah but that's just me yeah but uh oh but somebody actually asked so in
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  that panel it was Chris Avalon who uh wrote for Fallout and South Park 2o is
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  that right yeah yeah the guy from obsidian um yep Tim Kane a programmer of
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  Fallout David Gainer from BioWare and also manver I'm not sure how to
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  pronounce his name man air from BioWare spot on thanks I have no idea so
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  somebody from the audience asked them what their ideal game would be ideal RPG
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  and that was a great question because the answers were so great yeah yeah some
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  really interesting stuff and it's it kind of a shame that I know that the
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  format of the event was about you know diversity and stuff like that but that
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  question in particular made me think it's a shame that not only do people get
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  excluded but ideas get excluded due to the demographic stuff like um
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  you know like the Call of Duty players I mean that's a generalization but you
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  know what I mean is it about war is it about dragons or is it about space in
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  the future if it's not to it's too risky let's not do it I feel like there's some
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  great ideas out there that don't get a look in in AAA stuff yeah well one of
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  them I think it was Tim Kane was it that had was the best his ideal game was that
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  you're walking around in afterlife having to make reparations for
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  everything that you've done in life it was really yeah my biggest takeaway from all of
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  this stuff was and I feel like sometimes like I said people are a bit negative
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  about all this stuff but it seems like there's an opportunity there if you're a
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  game developer and you want more games about say transgender issues or whatever
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  right the fact that the big companies the ubisoft's and the and the Bethesda
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  and that aren't focusing in on that market is an opportunity for you leaves
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  it open for you yeah and then it means games like uh like gone home can be made
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  by Indie companies and can kind of focus on those things without just being
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  drowned out by that was a terrific game yeah it was you know by Assassin's Creed
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  whatever CU we need more of those yeah we don't need an Assassin's Creed game
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  you know about those issues I don't think we don't need an Assassin's Creed
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  game about anything anymore no maybe not I still like Assassin's Creed you would
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  you're one of I guess you're one of many if they keep making them but they keep
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  selling I don't actually pay attention to the story in Assassin's Creed games
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  anymore you just collect feathers y see what do you collect in in the newer ones
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  letters in the Paris one in Trinity like the alphabet no no
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  no actual letters I think I can't actually remember lots of Chess
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  Street I would play that well let's get
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  back to uh GX yeah try and focus the one thing that I think was that they need to
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  work on is probably the cost of it the cost of going yeah well look to be fair
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  they gave out a lot of free tickets no no but what Hannah was nearly not going
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  to go just due to the price cuz there was no like one day pass which I was big
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  shock over like there's no one day was from what I could see it h I think the
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  whole convention could have been pushed into one one day well we didn't go to a
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  whole lot of the panels so maybe I mean there was there was a lot on but I don't
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  there weren't too many overlapping um there were mostly two at any one time
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  sure but even if uh maybe there are rules with the venue that it couldn't
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  have stayed open any later but if it had stayed maybe another 3 hours or so oh
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  sure sure sure it could have accommodated all of that and had it all in one day
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  yeah yeah especially if they're not going to split the passes up um exactly
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  I'd be interested to because we didn't go on the Sunday I'd be interested to
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  see how busy it was on the Sunday but yeah it was $100 for a
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  general admission ticket which something like RTX or super over is half that for
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  two days yeah three days in in Supernova I think next one they really need the
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  price needs to come down and I think although dud are they're having it
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  at that price point to keep the sort of the numbers where they want they got
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  they got the numbers that they were wanting exactly they did yeah and the
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  other thing is too something like Supernova has the benefit of of just
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  sheer volume of of attendees where I think they probably knew they weren't
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  going to get anywhere near those numbers because it's it is quite a niche event
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  and because it was a Kickstarter as well like if people were willing to put that
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  money forward then awesome that helps them out and if not they were willing to
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  give out free tickets yeah another cool thing we did was the escape room I'm so
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  sorry guys no I still say I won that that escape room in the first 10 seconds
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  you broke it so Enigma put on this uh kind of a trial room it was just a
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  single room and you had a 15 minute window to escape yeah Luke do you mean
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  you won when you just submitted yes and said I'll never win this no I didn't sub
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  I didn't submit say wi I submitted cuz there was a story and that the world has
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  been taken over by vacuum cleaners the idea of our escape room was to build the
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  EMP to wipe them out I just went I now give in to our new overlords and vacuum
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  cleansers I was going to work for them I think the people running the room really enjoyed
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  that so I won and then screwed up every single clue certainly did we couldn't
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  figure out the um lock code so Luke just sat there playing with it until it
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  opened yeah we've kind of I don't know we I don't know what happened on that
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  first puzzle we bued that up so badly yeah the first puzzle just took way too
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  long it's cuz you left me in charge of it yeah I know after that we did all
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  right it's just late I I did learn a valuable lesson and that don't trust
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  Luke yeah don't trust Luke especially in an emergency situation no definitely not
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  but no we need to um we need to organize to go to a escape room oh yeah so we so
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  we can get stuck in it y yeah next organize it and then we will exclude you
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  well this this was cool they had the uh the EMP machine I don't want to give
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  away the plot of the escape room in case it's part of one of their things but uh
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  but it was pretty cool the way they had it set up and you know the puzzles were
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  cool it was good I'd do a legit one with them yeah I would too they were very
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  helpful will you take me with you probably not I wouldn't either N I don't
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  think there's a wheelchair ramp at the venue what else did you guys play um we
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  played a game called retrovision by Kyle McKeller mhm uh it was pretty cool it's
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  it's still in its development stage yeah it's like an endless Runner but it's
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  kind of first person you just avoid obstacles and yeah and it's it's I
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  forget what you call that look it's you know like Tron where it's it's very um
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  oh yes there's a name for it um yeah I know I just can't think of it cuz I suck
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  lines and yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm sure I'm sure the listen to what I'm
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  talking about so you're kind of shooting along and you rotate the column that
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  you're shooting along to dodge obstacles and it reacts to music and yeah it's
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  cool very cool yeah it was really cool I can see um wasting time trying to get a
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  high score on that yeah exactly I know cuz you got you started off getting the
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  highest score of the day yeah until I had my turn did you really yeah I
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  smashed it ah he told me somebody got 6 and a half thousand yeah I got seven
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  well all right forget it because I Matt and I were both around
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  the 3,000 Mark Oh I thought Matt was had the highest oh sorry yeah I got seven
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  maybe he was humoring me maybe he just tells everybody that oh
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  yeah Matt did a great job until I beat him cuz I no I did hear that I did hear
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  him telling you that uh he someone got $65,000 the highest of the day and
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  that's why I thought Matt had gotten that not half that no no not Matt sorry
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  oh man I have a question for you guys how much would you be willing to pay for
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  Tungsten dice $800 $800 have I got a deal for you then well
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  not me Level Up dice we at GX and they
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  make these fancy ass Dice from precious
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  stones and metals and cool um and boy dud I feel amazing oh man they're
• 24:22
  cool Dice Man beautiful dice if I was if I was rich I wouldn't play with any
• 24:27
  other dice I would have yeah if I was rich I would have like different sets
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  for just different days of the week of those dice they weren't all $800 no no
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  no just the tungsten ones Yeah we actually each got a um secret grab bag
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  thing of um of one die lucky dip that was cool and they they were selling them
• 24:45
  in um sets of like the gay and the byy and trans colors that was only for the
• 24:51
  day that's right yeah but that was pretty cool that was awesome cuz
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  normally they s all the different colors just in the the D and D set on their own
• 24:59
  yeah I didn't know they had colors for all of those different things neither
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  did I but that's enlightening I learned that from a dice company yep but no it's
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  um the only thing that's a shame is you can't buy them online they're only doing
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  the conventions at the moment that's right he said that they're handmade but
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  I mean they are sort of they have a machine that does it but I think they're
• 25:17
  not mass produced no um is is a good way to put it because cuz they're very
• 25:22
  expensive to make you know with with dice he the way he explained it the dice
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  ideally should be as random as as possible but you get things like air
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  pockets and Imperfections and things that when they test them they apparently
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  they have machines that can test this the dice usually end up I think he said
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  like 60 70% random like they'll they'll be weighted in some way that makes them
• 25:42
  more likely to to roll a certain way mhm um which maybe that explains why we
• 25:47
  always roll so badly at D and D I know just getting new dice I think maybe
• 25:52
  we all need new dice it was the aluminium ones he said right that they
• 25:56
  had like engraved some numbers a bit deeper because right say like the one
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  doesn't have as much taken out of it as like the 20 does yeah he said the
• 26:06
  machine will take it and not rather than just do a side and then a side and then
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  a side it does a little bit of a side then a little bit of one on the other
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  side and then it just it kind of flicks around and changes it to make sure it's
• 26:15
  all perfectly even which is pretty rad yeah it would be cool to play with them
• 26:19
  but yeah he said they're at 99.9% random he said that they won't give them the extra
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  1% which is pretty cool good but yeah so the aluminium ones start at what 120 I
• 26:31
  said think 120 yeah yeah the precious stones cuz they make them out of semi
• 26:35
  precious sorry what did I say precious oh precious semi precious they they're
• 26:40
  not precious they're just a little bit precious um amethyst and uh lapis lauli
• 26:46
  or however you pronounce that uh there was that sparkly gold one yeah soap
• 26:50
  stone um some of the middle wants that had like copper yep yeah copper yeah
• 26:54
  they were great actually cuz they tonish over time they look look cool yeah I'd
• 26:59
  love a set of them but if I wasn't saving up for a wedding at the moment I
• 27:03
  probably would have been coming home with a set I'll tell you what those
• 27:06
  tungston ones would destroy your table so you better make sure you got enough
• 27:08
  money to buy a new table I wouldn't use them at my house it's like the heaviest
• 27:12
  metal isn't it or one of them or like a tungston table maybe I think it's like
• 27:16
  the second strongest metal on Earth or something but yeah I wouldn't use it at
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  my house I'd only use it when I was playing at your house or something yeah
• 27:22
  right fair enough on our Diamond table they're at LevelUp di.net
• 27:28
  um you can't buy them online apparently at the moment but they've got a they've
• 27:33
  got where they're going to be yeah they're at conventions everywhere and
• 27:36
  stuff like that so yeah check them out they're really really cool if you're
• 27:39
  after some unique and uh I guess eye-catching dice they've definitely
• 27:43
  definitely got you covered oh and we ran into um Lucas from articulate sex oh
• 27:48
  yeah we did that card game that that we reviewed at PS yeah it's so weird cuz
• 27:53
  he's from camra oh is he I've never met him in camra met him in Melbourne I've
• 27:59
  met him in Sydney now you you know everyone in CRA yep cuz there's only
• 28:03
  like four people nobody lives in CRA so unfortunately he's had to put that game
• 28:08
  on hold but hopefully we'll see it come back yeah and and if even when it shows
• 28:12
  up um we'll definitely let you know about it yeah he just said um after
• 28:16
  speaking with a lot of people he understand that he probably went started
• 28:19
  the kickstarter too early instead of getting the word around about it first
• 28:23
  and as we know from doing our own Kickstarter oh kickstarter's rough man
• 28:27
  yeah yeah you you need to basically people need to know that it's happening
• 28:31
  before you've got it up and running and yeah and it's already got to have some
• 28:35
  money on it running a Kickstarter is a full-time job for somebody for the
• 28:39
  period that it's happening so it was pretty cool that GX was funded like that
• 28:42
  yeah totally it's not easy to do as we discovered you played a game with bunny
• 28:48
  rabbits in it Luke blast them bunnies what' you think of that I enjoyed it I'm
• 28:52
  going to get it oh yeah yeah it comes out in a couple of weeks okay it's a
• 28:57
  just a tow defense game so you're on a turret and you've got bunnies coming at
• 29:01
  you and the weapons you get are sort of like carrots and water melons and a free
• 29:08
  Ray that no that fits I think it's just going to be a very good quick casual
• 29:13
  game stuff you have lying around on your farm stuff you feed your rabbit
• 29:18
  yeah so what platforms is this on uh I
• 29:22
  know I saw it on the DS but it's I know it's definit no I play it on the Xbox
• 29:29
  one no I play it on PlayStation 4 but I know it's coming out on Xbox one okay
• 29:33
  cuz if it doesn't come out on an Xbox you're not playing it there's no
• 29:36
  achievements if I don't play on the Xbox yeah do you even play on your PC anym
• 29:41
  not really cuz I play a few games that I can get achievements on on my PC right
• 29:48
  oh Microsoft ones yeah but no I haven't really sat down and played like a game
• 29:53
  on Steam in a very long time okay and I probably won't until I upgrade the
• 29:58
  computer and then I'll go through a big PC phase again H well one game I want to
• 30:03
  talk about briefly that was also a GX mhm is killing time at light speed which
• 30:10
  is a game by grit fish my friend John and it's a game that's got my music in
• 30:14
  it I did some music for it so o listeners head on over to grit fish.net
• 30:19
  and check out killing time at lighted it's got an enhanced Edition coming out
• 30:23
  on Steam but you can check it out uh killing time at lightspeed.com um or on
• 30:27
  gri fish.net check it out so yeah we had a great time at GX uh hopefully they'll
• 30:33
  be back again next year and you should all check it out I will attend it was a
• 30:38
  great convention it was a very small one but it felt very personable no I had a
• 30:41
  good time it was a good con yeah convention no con I was I didn't feel
• 30:45
  ripped off we're bad at this thanks again to Liam and Joshua for setting it
• 30:50
  all up putting it on and giving us some tickets we really appreciate it that's
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  all for this week thank you for listening and we hope you enjoy the show
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