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Debating @mrfinnymore on Israel/Iran, Epstein, and American Nationalism | America Unfiltered #93 · America Unfiltered With James P

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Let's see. Yeah, I can still see it.
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OK, Hell yeah, I'm going to go. For.
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It America, we are back, baby. Welcome to another episode of
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American Filter with James Pasqualeades.
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We have a guest again today. I talked to you guys about this
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last week, said we were going to have a guest.
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I've debated him before on Jubilee.
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He's came on my podcast before, but we have Matthew Finney more
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with us, Orlando's finest. I've debated him on TikTok
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multiple times. He creates content and does
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political videos as well. Matthew, if you want to
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introduce yourself real quick. Hey everybody.
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Yeah, just like you said, you've seen me before in this video,
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he's on his podcast, you've seen me all over the place.
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Please do ignore by the way, because the the the view is a
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little bit different. Please ignore the background.
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I'm we're doing a whole like setup here and everything.
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So we're moving some stuff around.
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You can see it right now. We've got some like wall panels
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up setting up like a new studio system and everything with my
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partner. But yeah, so this is nothing.
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Nothing is here. You don't see it.
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It's like the list. You don't know it's not there.
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No, it's good to see you again. It's good to talk to you.
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We, we definitely we've had a little bit of time to catch up,
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but not too much. But I want to catch up about all
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the different things happening politically.
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Obviously I think we last talked mid-May or so or end of May.
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So since then a ton has changed. We have seen the almost the
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majority of the Republican Party or a overwhelming portion of the
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Republican Party flip to either Independence, Oregon questioning
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what's currently going on with the administration because of
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the Epstein stuff. We saw a lot of people upset
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about the Iran, Israel conflict after Trump campaigned on no new
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wars. We are now seeing, you know,
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more things happening with immigration, but from the stuff
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that's happening in LA to all the media things we're seeing, I
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kind of want to get your take on stuff.
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I want to start with Israel and Iran.
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I want us to, I want to see what you think about it.
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And then I'll give you my perspective and then we could,
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you know, talk about it, debate a little from there.
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Yeah, for sure. I think one of the, one of the,
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one of the craziest things was just because I was working at
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night and just minding my own PS and QS and one of the security
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guards that works at the place that I work at, he's like, Hey,
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just to let you know it's real. Just Bob Duron and I said what?
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And so like the, the initial response to that was just like,
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oh God, we better not get involved.
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I don't want the United States putting their their toes into
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any of the situation whatsoever, because that kind of conflict is
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just terrifying to think about, right.
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And so when it started to unravel and all of the things
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decided to happen, I was holding my breath for the longest time
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because my thought process was, if we get into this situation
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with Iran, it's the potential of their their allies getting
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involved in the region, even their allies over, you know,
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around the other countries getting involved, and then even
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our own allies in that region being in in trouble.
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So places like Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, like that was
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something that I was very concerned about.
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Now that there's potentially just quiet in the streets, it
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doesn't seem like it's still good.
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Because one thing I noticed was that Iran it just, I think they
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either sign something now or they have it on the floor where
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they're like, we just are just going to ban the IAEA period.
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Not even give them access to our nuclear enrichment programs or
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anything, which is very dangerous.
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But I think that it I think that what Trump did was in my
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opinion, obviously like a no, no, I don't want, I don't want
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our, our armaments being used whatsoever by American.
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Force. Do you think the problem was
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just that we we bomb them with the bunker Busters or did you
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also have a problem with us defending Israeli airspace as
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well? I I know it's a tricky question
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too. Well.
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It's not, it's not. It's not necessarily a tricky
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question. It's just more of just one of
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the things where it's like, OK, if the kids are out to play and
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they both have sticks, I'm going to let them do that.
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And then the only time I'm going to get involved is if blood
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figuratively is being shed. So the, the fact that the fact
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that they're both fighting each other, it's like, OK, well, you,
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you either we don't touch this or we just say, hey, stop.
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But because it was Israel's starting of the whole thing,
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Like we should have told Israel what the, what are you doing?
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What are you doing? This is not something that we
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want in the region. This is not something we should
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be having in the region. And it, it's just more just like
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I diplomacy is #1 for me, it's like, we, we got to talk this
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out. We got to make deals.
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We got to make contracts and plans.
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I'm not, I'm not for what he did with the bunker Busters.
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I'm definitely not for like protecting an airspace just
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because these two countries are fighting each other.
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Like I'm, I don't know why we're getting involved with that.
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Yeah, I I couldn't agree more with that last part.
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I mean, I am one of the, I'm focused on domestic issues more
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than anything always. I do not, it's not, I don't care
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about foreign issues. I do care about them, and I
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think they're important before in issues that don't involve the
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United States. I see.
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No, you know, why are we involved in them?
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Why is our money being spent on them is my main issue with it.
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And I think Israel is one of the countries that takes a lot of
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our money, a lot of our resources and is constantly
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dragging us into conflicts that the United States doesn't seem
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to need to be involved in. And this was just another one of
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them. And I don't even think that I
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personally don't even think it was about nukes.
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I think it was about regime change.
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I actually think this war, and I predicted this on my show, I
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could be wrong, we'll see. But I've predicted this war is
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actually far from over and that this war, like I said, is about
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regime change because my take on it was Israel.
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And they knew this. They were never able to destroy
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Iran's nuclear facility. If their entire goal was to
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destroy Iran's nuclear facility, they would have had, they
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wouldn't need the United States buck bunker Buster bombs.
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They are the only bombs in the world that would be able to
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penetrate for dough Natanz and I forget the other one, but it
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would be the only way possible for them to do that.
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We're the only country in existence who has the capability
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to destroy something like that. So when they made the decision
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to undermine the United States by bombing Iran that night, in
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my mind, I don't think Trump knew about it at all.
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And Trump the next day had to make a decision.
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Does he show strength and say, you know, this was US and Israel
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together? Or does he call out our biggest
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ally against, you know, the lobbyist wishes because he took
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hundreds of millions from Miriam Adelson, who is an Israeli
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lobbyist. He took hundreds of million from
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other Israeli lobbyists and I, I think this is where we see
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lobbying impacting politics, where we see something Trump
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probably didn't want. I don't think he wanted the bomb
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to go on a, you know, I don't think he wanted the United
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States to get involved, but I think Israel kind of forced his
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hand and the lobbying of the hundreds of millions of dollars.
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They kind of just cash that check in is kind of my opinion
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on why it happened. I, I think JD Vance is also
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negatively involved as well. I've come to, I used to love JD
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Vance. I've come to actually not
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despise, but pretty close. I I think he is pretty
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corrupted. I think Trump is less corrupted
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than people are saying. I think most of the things are
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the are people in Trump's cabinet.
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But Trump definitely does seem to be fairly corrupted with the
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Epstein stuff. But I think the Israel thing was
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very avoidable by the United States just for once laying
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their foot down and saying, OK, Israel, we're not going to
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defend you. This one's on you because we've
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defended Israel time and time again.
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And it just can't stay like that.
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Well, it it was. Interesting, because I was
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talking to a lot of people that are on this, you know, this side
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of the aisle and stuff. And we were looking at a lot of
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different pieces of information about what kind of transpired.
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And a lot of people were saying that if the United States did
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not get involved, then Iran actually would have a would have
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had a better shot of either a defeating Israel or stopping
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Israel from doing what they were doing.
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They were basically going through the air defense systems
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with a lot of their missiles because they were just like
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supersonic or subsonic speeds, just like too fast for the
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defense system to even do anything you.
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Want to know how they were able to do it?
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Wow. Little quick tip or a quick
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inside thing it was. It's something that's never been
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done before too, but because of social media, one of the ways I
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knew about the bombs was I I was randomly watching a live
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streamer and I randomly saw an Iranian live streamer streaming
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the bombs from Israel even before the news reported it.
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So I, I saw it about 10 minutes before the news even reported it
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just on an Iranian live stream off some guys phone.
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But on both sides, Israel and Iran, they were looking at
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people's live streams and looking at people's videos on
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social media of where their bombs were hitting to then
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readjust their targeting based off of where those hit in the
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video. So they were watching like
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Iranian leaders were watching Israeli citizens videos to
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redirect where their missiles would go based off of where the
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others would hit in the videos, which was an insane way to think
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about how war is, you know, evolving.
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I was going to say, 'cause like even cause 'cause even Ukraine,
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like they're using drones, like they're using little tiny drones
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and just flying them on top of on, on top.
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Of the suicide bombing and just. Blowing them up it's it's so
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crazy like how war has like trance has transformed over the
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past couple of years and they were using spy warfare in
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Ukraine setting up all of these different trucks with all these
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different storage containers and just popping the tops off and
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just letting them fly to these different bases it's.
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Israel set up the spy thing too. Israel set up in Iran two years
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before, and they were planning that attack for years, they
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actually. So they infiltrated not the
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obviously the entire country of Israel, but a set of Mossad and
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a set of their soldiers infiltrated themselves into
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Iranian society for years. They essentially built up these
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camps on farms that were isolated because Iran's a very
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large piece of land that they had these camps and essentially
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they launched the initial attack from within Iran.
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They were able to send off drones and missiles from within
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Iran. And then beyond that, they were
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also able to deter a lot of Iran's initial attacks from
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within the country itself because of that.
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So it's one of the reasons that I not that we're going to dive
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into this, but one of the reasons that I've talked a lot
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about like the Chinese Communist Party's own farmland in the
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United States, Florida took a step to ban it.
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Texas just banned it, and I think Donald Trump's making move
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to ban it in on the federal level.
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But the Chinese Communist Party strategically owns a lot of
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farmland placed around our military bases in the United
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States. And after something like that
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happens, even though it's in the Middle East, it's just scary to
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think that it could happen in the United States of wherever to
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go to war with China. Yeah, I would say that's a
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little bit, you know, scary. I'd have to.
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I'm going to look into that a little bit more because that
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that sounds kind of nuts, but you should watch.
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Doctor Phil's take on it, he does a really good thing on it.
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Oh, wow. I, I will say, like living in
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Iraq and living in Jordan, like seeing those things fly over
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your head like that just sounds absolutely nuts.
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But yeah, I, I think that the issue right now is that we are
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just providing too much support to this one country just because
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they're in that region. You know, it's like, why would
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you want to support a country like that when, when we have
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other countries in that region that have one a lot more
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allyship and a lot more connections within that, within
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that region to provide more diplomacy and to more, I guess,
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revenue. Because a lot of the money that
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is getting to Israel is coming from us.
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So, so to to, to basically give them money and then have them
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give money back to us, to a lobbyist.
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Like it's absolutely grotesque. And I think that you would agree
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that like a lot of the lot money that's in our politics should
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just be absolutely removed. Like we shouldn't.
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Have. Oh yeah, Lobbying is just legal
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bribery. I, I, yeah, I love debating
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conservatives almost more than I like debating liberals because I
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disagree with them on a lot of things.
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And like a lot of conservatives, they'll never speak out against
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lobbying. They'll never speak out against
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APEC specifically, which I find to be one of the most corrupt
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lobbyists. They have problems speaking out
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against these certain things because like the neo cons and
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the there's a certain set of like, did you watch the
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interview with Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz?
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Oh God, like I like. There are people who just defend
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that I'm. Just like, what the fuck are you
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defending? It's like, how are you?
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Yeah, I was, I was, I was surprised.
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I was like, holy shit. Like, I never thought that in
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this moment I would agree with Tucker in this shit because like
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Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz looked like a fucking lap dog.
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Like, I like that, that he he looked like he was basically
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begging for Israel to give him money at that point in that
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interview. It was absolutely insane.
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It's like, why are you supporting a Like, it's my
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favorite thing. And this is the reason as to why
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someone like Zoron Mamdani won his primary was because every
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single one of those Democrats were asked, hey, like when they
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become the mayor? Yeah, when you become the mayor,
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what's the, what's the first country that you're going to
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visit? And they all said Israel.
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And he's like, I'm going to stay in New York.
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Why the fuck would I go to Israel?
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Because. I hate that guy.
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But I've talked about that same thing on my show where I said I
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was like, it's clear. It's clearly, obviously why he
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won. He's the only one who gave a
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correct answer in the debate. He's the only one who gave an
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answer that actually speaks to the American people.
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You're the mayor of New York, not the fucking mayor of Tel
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Aviv. What are you doing?
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Exactly. Like I don't know much of Zoron.
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I'm glad that he got to his position where he did because I
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didn't think that Andrew Cuomo would have done anything.
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He would have the exact. Same thing that he's been doing.
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I don't like Cuomo. I think that what he did to New
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York during his time frame was absolutely horrendous.
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But like, Zoron at least gave, like you said, he gave the
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correct answer, which is what every single person should be
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giving when you're here in the United States as a mayor or a
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senator, you should be wanting to protect the United States and
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you want to be supporting your constituents.
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I don't know why you'd want to go to places like Israel or even
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Saudi Arabia or Qatar when the United States has issues here.
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We should be taking care of the people here, not going to these
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other places. You wanna So I want to get your
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take on if you agree with this or not, because this is
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something that happened on the conservative side.
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But it seems bipartisanly people are split and it doesn't matter
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what side you're on. It's just kind of a random
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thing. Marjorie Taylor Green, who's
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obviously very Republican, outspoken Trump supporter,
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American nationalist, She is the House representative from
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Georgia. She proposed a bill that would
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strip $500 million from Israel's funding that goes to their
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missile defense systems and use that money every year that we
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would send them to then put down towards our debt.
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And 422 people in the House voted to not do it and to give
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the money to Israel, while only six people voted to put the
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money down towards our debt. Which side would you have voted
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on on that? On on cutting the funding to
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Israel. It would have been only cutting
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500 million out of the 3.8 billion, but it's still a a
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portion of the money I. Would say it's still.
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Yeah, that's like what? And the money we cut would have
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gone straight down to paying down our debt.
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Only. Six people voted to pay down our
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debt. It's kind of like a crazy to me.
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That is insane. The fact that the fact that
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they're just so, so stuck in this in their ways that they
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wouldn't even support trying to cut down our deficit like that
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is crazy. I, I, I will say that like, you
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know, I don't fully agree with MTG on a lot of things, but you
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know what we're. Out there, I don't either.
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She. Yeah.
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And she's very much out there. And sometimes and sometimes she
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doesn't know, like when she's in these committees, she doesn't
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know fully about this. It's the situation stuff
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sometimes. But this, you know, it's, it's,
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it's, it's a start. It's the same thing with like
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setting up a, a, a moratorium on the border, like part of that,
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you know, border bill that was with Langford, like at least
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that's something. It's starting somewhere.
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It doesn't solve the problem, but it's still something.
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So I think for her, like having that 500 million at least, like
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cutting that, that's taking off a leg.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm for cutting off the, I'm a no foreign aid
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guy personally, and it's not even Israel specific, but Israel
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is the majority of our foreign aid.
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I don't think that we should be giving, I mean, it's hard to say
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$0.00, but at least for the time being, I'm a $0.00, a foreign
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aid kind of guy until we can fix the problems domestically.
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And I don't even mean like the problems that they talk about in
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the media. And that's one of my biggest
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problems with conservatives is I could argue with Trump
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supporters all day long about the economy and things like
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that, because people will say that the economy is good, but
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you're, you're what, what are you, 32, you said?
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33 Actually I just turned to two months.
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Ago Oh yeah, I forgot we have birthdays right next to each
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other, but happy birthday. But yeah, like you know what I
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mean. It's like people are age and
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under like buying a house is not what it used to be.
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It doesn't cost $12.00 and two chickens anymore.
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Like it's a you got to like dedicate every dollar you make
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for years and years on end with almost never going out to eat
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and like working a job making like $120,000 to even be able to
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afford a home. And that's the stuff I talked
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about when it's like the economy, it's like we're we're
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allowing lobbying to completely decimate this country.
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We're allowing all our money to be sent overseas through foreign
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aid. We're allowing, you know, the
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lobbying with BlackRock to purchase all the single family
17:39
homes. We're allowing pretty much what
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was the American Dream, and not even like the American Dream in
17:46
the immigrant sense, but American Dream in the sense of
17:48
just being able to have a family in a home and being able to live
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happily. That's just crumbling in front
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of our eyes, I feel. Yeah, yeah, I fully agree.
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And I'm actually looking at this right now and the fact that only
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it looks like, Oh my God, there's only four, four
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Democrats that said yes to this. Of the four Democrats, it's Al
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Green, it's Lee. It's.
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Ilon Omar, someone else? And Rashid to leave and.
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Ilon Omar just doesn't like Israel.
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That's her beef. But whatever her reasoning was,
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she was on the right side of the vote.
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The vote should have been 422 to 6 the other way in my.
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Opinion. Yeah, exactly, because it's one
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of those things where it's like, yes, like just just like Marcia
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Taylor Green, sometimes you're having extreme such a what you
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know, members of Congress or members of the House, like they
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they exist. Of course, I'm not going to deny
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that. But like that that's that just
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speaks volumes to the people that have the money with Israel.
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And like that just speaks to how much lobbying just period is.
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It's just is in the situation too.
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Like I'm going to look at a little bit apex.
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Funds 300 like it's either it's between 340 and 365 of the US
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House Representatives and there's under 430 of them and
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then that's just APEC specifically there's also other
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foreign lobbyists but the problem I have with APEC and
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they brought this up in the Tucker interview is that APEC is
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a foreign lobbyist, but they're not registered as a foreign
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lobbyist. They're registered as national
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lobbyist, but they're not, they're they're lobbying for
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Israel directly. And it's it's crazy how this
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part of it still ties into the Epstein part.
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Like we'll transition this pretty smoothly into Epstein
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because of that. But it's like, I think that's
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the reason we're not getting the beyond a few other things.
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I think one of the reasons we're not getting the Epstein files is
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lobbying. I think it's because of corrupt
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back made deals and the fact that they probably don't even
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exist in America. My take on the Epstein thing,
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I'll give you my take first and then I want to see what you
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think. But my take is that the files
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never existed in America because they were Mossad owned, that
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there was information about them in America because U.S.
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intelligence and Mossad probably do work together.
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But I think that Mossad ran the entire operation.
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The overwhelming evidence for me is the fact that Epstein lived
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with Ahud Barack who is the chief of Mossad.
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His girlfriend was Ghilane Maxwell whose dad was Mossad.
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They also started a Israeli spy firm called Carbine 911, and
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guess who he started that with? Peter Thiel and Ahud Barack.
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Who is Peter Thiel? Best fucking friends with JD
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Vance. JD Vance hated Donald Trump
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until about 3 years ago or two years ago when all of the sudden
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Peter Thiel convinced him to like Donald Trump and Peter
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Thiel gets placed in the Trump cabinet.
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Then we see Israel get more funding, we see all the Epstein
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stuff get buried. And while I do think Trump is
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with the possible new evidence, I do think it is very possible
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he's guilty. I think the reason we're seeing
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the burial is JD Vance and Teals connection over Trump.
20:45
I think Trump probably is part of it, but I think Pam Bondi and
20:49
Peter Thiel and JD Vance are the the three corrupt ones right now
20:53
in my opinion. Well, it's interesting because
20:55
they want to get rid of the rider of this dark horse.
20:58
Like Peter Thiel is working with AI and trying to make it
21:03
basically known that he wants AI to control everything at this
21:07
point. Like that's also something
21:09
that's extremely dangerous. And the fact that he is
21:12
supportive of JD Vance and putting all of this money and
21:15
falling into the vice president, I think that the IT did not
21:20
sound conspiracy theorists or anything here, but if I were to.
21:22
Make all of the. Dots, if I were to make all the
21:25
dots here and everything, they're trying to get Trump the
21:28
fuck out. So they put Vance in to forward
21:31
Teal's agenda and to forward what you're talking about
21:34
Israel's situation and all that other stuff.
21:36
And for me, because I, I, I love, I love talking about this.
21:41
If you're not guilty of a crime, then you should just show the
21:45
evidence. But Trump's hands are all over
21:48
this and he knows that the second that he pulls this out,
21:51
it's going to be game over. So you either a lie and say that
21:56
you have the files, but you don't actually have the files.
21:59
Basically what basically hiding away the fact that you've done
22:04
those things or B, you show it and then people see that you
22:07
have done those things and you wrong, you know, you, you get
22:10
kicked out either way, they're going to kick you out.
22:12
So you have either one or two options.
22:14
Either you show them that you're a, you know, this, this forward
22:17
thinking guy that you want honesty and integrity.
22:19
So you put the files out and you deal with the backlash at that
22:23
point, or you just continue to do what you're doing and show to
22:27
people like myself or to others that either you're guilty or you
22:31
just weaponized the the victims for your personal gain.
22:35
Like that's, that's just not only corrupt, but it's also just
22:38
disgusting. Like I, I don't, I don't, I
22:41
don't think that he's going to get away from this anytime soon.
22:43
And this is going to destroy the the Republicans in the mid in
22:46
the. Mid yeah, Republicans lost the
22:48
midterms already. I thought we lost the midterms
22:51
the second we dropped the bomb on Israel.
22:54
But this solidified that for sure.
22:55
They have no chance of redeeming it.
22:58
And I think I don't think you're wrong.
23:02
I do think there could be a back end play to get Trump out of
23:06
office. I could see that happening.
23:09
I don't think it's going to be from the people we would think.
23:12
I think like there's going to be a push from the Democrats and
23:14
you're going to see less resistance from the Republicans
23:17
than you'd normally see. Like I think like AOC or someone
23:20
like that would probably be the one to file the impeachment.
23:23
But then you might see people who who who don't push against
23:27
it. And I think that's when you when
23:30
we'll be able to decipher who is the deep state, who's not who is
23:33
trying to like Trump campaign. One of the reasons I liked Trump
23:37
is because Trump wasn't a Republican.
23:40
I think Republicans and Democrats are both fairly
23:43
corrupted. I'm not even talking about like
23:45
the citizens. I mean the parties themselves.
23:47
Whether it's Republicans or Democrats.
23:49
If you look at the history, Clinton, Obama, Bush, Trump,
23:53
Biden, every one of them have raised the debt ceiling.
23:56
Every one of them has taken money from born lobbyists.
24:00
Every one of them has made decisions that do not directly
24:02
benefit the American people, but benefit other people over the
24:05
American people and devalues our dollars.
24:08
So I think the entire, and it comes back to lobbying, but the
24:11
entire establishment is so corrupted.
24:14
And if we can't remove lobbying, we'll never get to a place where
24:18
we could have honesty in this country because we'll always
24:21
have these back end deals being made where it's just trying to
24:24
keep things from the American people.
24:26
And this was the biggest fuck up of all time.
24:28
I mean, this was the that like when Trump came on social or
24:32
true social and said, you know, everyone's weak who's still
24:35
talking about this. You're if you're my supporter, I
24:38
I don't even want you as my supporter.
24:39
Like that was such a wake up call to a lot of Americans
24:43
because people went to like whether people agree with it or
24:47
not, people went to jail. Like January 6, people went to
24:50
jail for Donald Trump. They lost their rights to vote
24:53
because they became felons. They lost their right tone,
24:55
guns, you know, travel outside the country, certain things like
24:59
that. People got fired.
25:01
You know, some people got fired for their overwhelming MAGA
25:04
support on social media. People had various different
25:07
things. And for people to go through all
25:09
that for one guy, for him to them say, I don't even want you
25:12
as my supporter. It's just like, dude, what are
25:14
you doing? Like what is going on?
25:17
It's a slap in the face. Yeah, it's it's basically, it's
25:20
basically dangling a carrot in front of you and saying I have
25:23
it here and then just having it disappear.
25:25
Like he not to not to, not to be disrespectful or anything, but
25:29
he used you. Guys.
25:30
He 100% used you guys to get to what he wanted to.
25:33
And it's so blatantly obvious at this point that like the only
25:37
thing really the only thing that he can do to even come close to
25:42
gaining people's trust back is releasing all of the files.
25:45
Not not releasing grand jury information, not releasing some
25:50
pictures or some things, not trying to show just phase one.
25:54
That was that was crazy. Phase one binders was fucked up
25:57
that that was more fucked up because of how they like they
26:01
took credible news source names and they destroyed their
26:04
reputations. Yeah, exactly.
26:06
Like their reputations are absolutely fucked.
26:09
And you, when you have people like and, and I, I can't believe
26:13
I'm going to say this, you have people like Nick Fuentes saying
26:17
fuck you because you're not even releasing the files.
26:20
That is, you know who Nick Fuentes is.
26:22
That guy's fucking insane. But you know what?
26:24
I agree with him, at least on this point.
26:26
Why are you not releasing the files?
26:28
Unless you're hiding something, you know, it's one thing to be
26:31
like, hey, we don't have the files.
26:34
We lied about it to, you know, like that's going to, that's
26:37
going to ruin you. But you know what, at least
26:39
you're honest about it. But we know that you have the
26:42
files. We know that that exists.
26:44
We know that there's 3 minutes roughly of video evidence being
26:49
completely removed. I don't understand how you can
26:51
just think that removing 3 minutes is going to help you at
26:55
all. It's not going to help you.
26:57
And so because of that, it's like, OK, so now, now you're
27:00
just, it's making it even worse. You're digging yourself a grave
27:02
that you cannot get yourself out of.
27:04
But I mean. Listen, I even on this show,
27:07
I've been over the last week joking around, saying I've been
27:10
calling Jeffrey Epstein, Sir King Jeffrey Epstein, because
27:13
for years I've been peddling the conspiracy theories that this
27:16
guy was a sex trafficker and that he was killed.
27:19
But I feel bad because, you know, he was.
27:21
He sadly killed himself before he realized the whole thing was
27:23
a hoax. Yeah.
27:25
And, and, and that was the thing, right?
27:27
He said like everybody, like everybody on this, on the, on
27:29
the both the left and the right were making the joke of like
27:32
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
27:33
You know, he didn't kill himself.
27:34
But like now it's a like, it's a potential real thing that he
27:37
didn't kill himself because of just the fact that Trump does
27:40
not want to show. Hey, these are the files.
27:44
Like he's, he knows that his fingerprints are all over it.
27:47
He knows that he's got the smoking gun, but.
27:50
And I mean, Donald Trump was the one in office when Epstein was
27:53
arrested. Donald Trump was in office when
27:55
Epstein was killed. Donald Trump was in office when
27:58
the files were buried. And a lot of the biggest
28:01
argument I see coming from the Republican side now, which in
28:04
theory holds a little bit of water, but is does not make that
28:07
much sense, is why didn't Biden release the files?
28:10
That's I hear that repetitively being chirped on social media.
28:14
And it's because it's not that Biden's guilty.
28:19
I have overwhelming belief that Bill Clinton is.
28:22
And Bill Clinton and Hillary practically own the Democratic
28:25
Party in terms of funding. And I think, like I said, I
28:30
think both the entire system is corrupt of Republicans and
28:33
Democrats. And I think that Republicans and
28:36
Democrats probably made a back end deal together to not release
28:40
this information. They know Bill Clinton's
28:42
involved. They know there's a chance
28:44
Donald Trump's involved or even if it's not Trump, there's
28:46
higher ups. But I do think there's a good
28:48
possibility that Trump is involved.
28:50
I, I like one of the things is in 2016, when Donald Trump was
28:57
first running, we heard a million different allegations
28:59
against Trump, about a million different things.
29:01
He he molested this woman, he raped this woman.
29:04
He worked with Russia on this. He did this.
29:07
Like there was every week there was a different story ragging on
29:11
Trump. And it almost became to
29:12
Republicans like the boy who cried wolf where it was like,
29:15
OK, I'm just going to tune it all out.
29:17
None of this matters because they're just trying to tear a
29:19
guy down. Like if you can't say a single
29:21
nice thing about him, it's like, OK, fuck you guys.
29:24
And then people drowned all that out.
29:26
But one of the things that was drowned out was the fact that
29:28
him and Epstein were accused of rape in 2015.
29:32
And the information was buried. And the case was the case was
29:36
shut down because the woman felt threatened.
29:38
And it's something that I personally wrote off and I feel
29:42
bad about writing off. But it was, again, just like a
29:44
boy who cried wolf thing where it's like there was so many
29:46
different allegations coming out and it's hard to believe.
29:49
It's hard to believe that any of them are true when there's a
29:51
thousand of them. So yeah, it yeah, it was just
29:54
kind of one of those things. But I think that's the
29:56
realization a lot of different Trump supporters or former Trump
29:58
supporters are having now where it's like, OK, what what is
30:01
going on within this establishment?
30:04
Well, especially now because it's like if you've got these
30:06
pieces of information that are coming out right, let's go,
30:08
let's go off of all of the different like allegations and
30:10
accusations from the first administration.
30:12
Like if this specific thing of Epstein is now becoming
30:15
legitimate, what about these other things that they've said
30:18
that they accused Trump of? Like, is this now, Are these now
30:21
true? Or is like, is everything else
30:23
now just like what? What if they were throwing the
30:25
truth at you? And that's something that is a
30:26
really hard pill to swallow. And to go with what you're
30:29
talking about with Biden, It's like, yeah, I could definitely
30:32
see like the Clinton situation. I also kind of want to make the
30:35
argument that it could just be something as simple as he didn't
30:37
run on it. Like if, Like when?
30:39
You go, yeah, they never talked about it.
30:40
That was also never talked about it.
30:42
It's like they it's hard to blame them for something they
30:44
didn't promise. Right.
30:46
So because like when you run for like when you run for like class
30:48
president in like high school, right?
30:49
Like you look at one person that says, I'm going to get everybody
30:52
free lunch every single day on day one.
30:55
Or you look at the other person and they're like, I want to find
30:57
ways to provide better education for people that have, you know,
31:01
special needs or people that are struggling in this specific
31:03
class, right? So like you look at those two
31:06
specific things, you can't blame this person that wants to do a
31:09
better with classes for not having free lunch.
31:12
He didn't run on it. They never ran on it.
31:14
So it's because of the fact that he just kept pushing it for like
31:17
what, 10 plus years? He's like, we're going to make
31:18
sure we get to the bottom of this.
31:20
This is what we want. Six years since 2019.
31:22
Six years he was killed. Yeah, it was pretty much since
31:25
Trump got out of office. He like since his first term
31:29
ended because it happened at the back end of his first term, It
31:31
happened in 2019 and then the election, if I'm correct, was
31:34
2020. And then yeah, like right after
31:38
Joe Biden got elected, it went right into January 6th and then
31:42
as January 6th. Like I think his way to
31:45
transition out of that in the media was pushing the Epstein
31:48
things a little, which it's still it's not like bad.
31:50
He pushed that like it's still as relevant as ever.
31:53
We you see it now. It's like the people who like
31:57
me, like I want mass deportations.
31:59
I want a majority of the things Trump is doing.
32:03
But overall, I would almost trade that for, I would trade
32:06
almost everything else for the release, all of this
32:08
information, because the release, all of this information
32:11
isn't just about Jeffrey Epstein.
32:12
It's about everything we've known our whole lives that the
32:15
entire system is corrupted and it's ran by people that we can't
32:19
see. It's that our our system will.
32:22
Go over. Head over heels to protect
32:25
people for very corrupt reasons, but they won't provide for the
32:28
American people. And it's right in front of our
32:30
eyes now. They they are literally
32:32
protecting, you know, pedophile, which is the worst kind of
32:34
person over giving transparency to the American people.
32:39
And it, it feels so much bigger than just Epstein.
32:41
It feels like it's the, you know, exposing the system.
32:43
What is what this would do? Like exposing these files would
32:47
show that there is a system that does this.
32:49
Yeah. Would you then, because because
32:51
this is this is where it gets. I wanted to ask this because I
32:53
think it's really interesting. If you have somebody in Florida
32:57
that is running for the midterms and they support Trump still,
33:02
even though all of these files are coming out, would you then
33:05
turn the cheek and then go to the other side then just for
33:08
just, just for the midterms, just for the midterms
33:10
specifically? For the midterm specifically,
33:12
I'm going to change the way I voted than I've ever previously
33:15
voted. I am probably not going to vote
33:17
for a lot of the things. I will vote for some of them,
33:20
but I will refuse to vote for any candidate that takes any
33:23
kind of lobbying money whatsoever.
33:26
So, and that's going to be my new my new take pretty much
33:30
forever, unless it's from very specific groups that I would
33:34
approve of, which is slim and none I would any any single
33:40
politician that takes money from lobbying, I think is a problem.
33:42
Like that's I was going to say this earlier, but I forgot.
33:45
But like one of the things I loved about Trump was 2016.
33:48
He took no lobbying money like he was self funded.
33:51
And then even 2020 in that campaign self funded 2024, he
33:55
couldn't do that anymore. He'd lost so much money in
33:57
lawsuits and being president that he had to take money.
34:00
And he took a few 100 million from Elon Musk, which could
34:05
definitely be a problem at some point.
34:07
But I don't like, I personally trust Elon more than I trust
34:09
Trump in a lot of ways, although I'd never want him Impala.
34:13
I wouldn't want him to be president or anything.
34:16
But he also took 100 million from Miriam Adelson, which is a
34:19
Israeli donor. And that's one of the reasons I
34:21
think we're seeing the, you know, Iran, Israel stuff.
34:26
And he took hundreds of 1,000,000 more from other
34:28
donors, but a lot of Israeli donors.
34:29
And I think that is why we're seeing a completely different
34:33
Trump than people envisioned. I think, I think Trump's
34:37
intentions kind of were pure, but I do think his his lobbying
34:42
made it impossible to do it that way in his cabinet Also didn't
34:45
help with, like I said, the JD Vance, Peter Thiel thing.
34:48
But I don't think Trump is innocent.
34:50
I do think there is a chance that Trump is guilty in this
34:52
Epstein thing. Yeah, 100% that's really
34:56
interesting that you that that, that you mentioned that like
34:58
you're not going to vote for anybody that has like these kind
35:01
of crazy big ties with different lobbies.
35:03
I I think that's, I think that's fucking awesome.
35:06
I think that, yeah. Like, unless it's like very
35:07
specific ones, like like, unless it's like a like the Wounded
35:11
Warriors project gives money to some politicians and I don't
35:15
have a lot of problems with them.
35:17
Certain like military organizations I don't have a
35:21
problem with, but I, I don't want the military.
35:24
Like there are certain ones that like push for funding in the
35:26
military and there are certain ones who don't.
35:28
And it's like, I don't think we should be cutting our funding
35:30
necessarily across the military, but I don't think we should be
35:33
over funding them in the way we do because we can't, we can't
35:36
track the money. And until we're able to track
35:38
the money, I think we need to cut the funding a little bit
35:41
because. Are you, Are you sure that
35:43
you're conservative like? I'm more American nationalist
35:47
like I I've realized that more over time.
35:50
I, I like people say American nationalism is far right, but I
35:54
like to say it's far middle because I think it's just a big
35:57
agreement of all the things. Like I push back against a lot
36:00
against conservatives and I definitely push back against an
36:04
insane amount with Democrats. But I, I find most of my
36:07
positions to be just rooted in what is best for the American
36:10
people. What is going to bring value
36:12
back to our dollar and manufacturing back to our
36:15
country and make a stronger and what is going to stop the
36:19
corruption within our government.
36:20
Like, most of my decisions on politics are rooted in, you
36:24
know, based off of those things now.
36:26
Well, I'm glad that we can. We have a concession, especially
36:29
with lobbying our government from foreign adversaries or even
36:34
just foreign allies with. I think lobbying in general, I
36:36
don't even think national lobby should exist, right?
36:39
Like I don't think like Alfred Morris cigarette company should
36:42
be able to lobby. I don't think the alcohol
36:44
companies, I don't even think the gun company should be able
36:46
to lobby. But I also don't think we should
36:48
be changing the laws as well. Do you think that Citizens
36:51
United is like a problem? Which lobbying group is that?
36:55
Let me. Look it up.
36:55
No, well, Citizens United was a was a state.
36:58
I think it was specifically like a court order that basically
37:01
humanized corporations and companies.
37:03
So basically it gave them kind of like a vote, so to speak.
37:06
So that's why they're able to do a lot of, from what I've read, I
37:09
think it's from that's what happened with a lot of like the
37:11
lobbying and stuff. So if you look up Citizens
37:13
United, this happened. When did this happen?
37:16
This happened. Was it the thing it let me look?
37:21
Was it the thing where they got people together to like,
37:23
criticize politicians as a group kind of or?
37:27
Things it might be something different because this happened
37:30
in in 2010. So basically, let me pull this
37:33
up. So, Citizens United is a
37:35
landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court regarding
37:37
campaign finance laws, in which the court found that laws
37:40
restricting political spending of corporations and unions are
37:43
inconsistent with with a free speech clause of the 1st
37:46
Amendment. The Supreme Court 54 ruling in
37:49
favor of Citizens United sparked significant controversy, with
37:52
some viewing it as a defense of American principles of free
37:55
speech and a safeguard against government overreach, while
37:58
others criticize it as a promotes corporate personhood
38:02
and granting disproportionate political power in large
38:05
corporations. So basically it gave the.
38:07
Super PACs and stuff. Right.
38:09
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm against that.
38:12
Like I'm against, like I said, the overwhelming majority of
38:16
lobbying. I don't think it, it's rooted in
38:19
American nationalist values. And like most of the thing, I
38:23
actually have it here because I've been doing a book of the
38:25
week, and I did this as the book of the week.
38:27
Most of the things I want for this country come from this.
38:31
And like various other American texts, but The Federalist
38:34
Papers, it's 86 essays written by some of our founders and some
38:39
other more important historical figures within the United States
38:42
government. And it's all letters or all
38:46
essays saying why the Constitution, the Declaration of
38:51
Independence, and all our founding documents are meant to
38:53
withstand time, tyranny and all leadership.
38:56
And I think the more we can get back to what our founders
38:59
intended for the country, the better we could be in a lot of
39:02
ways. And I think the spending is one
39:05
of the yeah, show me anything. Because, OK, give me two
39:07
seconds. I'm going to be right.
39:08
You're. Good.
39:08
Take your time while he's gone. I hope everyone's having a great
39:15
day and enjoying the show. Oh, he's back.
39:18
There we go. I was going to the camera while
39:21
you were gone. Oh, no, you're good.
39:22
You're good. Because it's funny that you
39:24
mentioned The Federalist Papers because my, my girlfriend, she
39:27
actually gave me the Constitution as a, as a, as a
39:31
gift for my birthday. Oh.
39:33
There you go, I got my cock. The cool thing about this this
39:37
this Constitution book is that I don't know if you can see it.
39:40
It has not just the introduction of everything, it has the
39:43
Constitution. It has the amendments, the
39:45
Articles of Association, the thoughts on government, the
39:48
Declaration of Independence, the Virginia Plan, the Northwest
39:52
Ordinance, the Articles of of Confederation, and then George
39:56
Washington's First Inaugural address and farewell address.
39:59
This has literally the creation of the United States.
40:03
I'm going to send you a copy of this because it's got that and
40:05
it's got a couple things too. Like it's got a bunch of stuff
40:08
on like women's suffrage, a bunch of stuff on like how the
40:10
voting process actually started. But this thing is like the
40:13
American Bible. Like it's literally like every,
40:16
every document America ever produced.
40:18
The pages are as thin as Bible pages.
40:20
And I mean, this thing is that's cool.
40:23
Stop to you. I'll send you a copy of it.
40:24
It's great. I honestly, yeah.
40:26
I mean, the more I've, the more I've like learned about American
40:30
history. And I've always known a good
40:32
amount. I've always been interested in
40:33
history, but I've definitely learned more as I've been doing
40:36
my show and just learning about politics in general.
40:40
But yeah, the more I realized that we're very far from what
40:42
our founders actually intended. And I do think Trump, in a lot
40:46
of ways, a good stepping stone for it.
40:48
I think his initial 2016 inaugural speech, even his 2024
40:55
inaugural speech, were really rooted in American nationalism.
40:57
The idea of like, we're not going to allow for foreign
41:00
governments and adversaries to control American politics.
41:03
We're not going to allow American companies to export all
41:06
their labor. Like one of my things I debate
41:09
with conservatives a lot is capitalism.
41:11
And I'm not a against capitalism.
41:13
I'm far from socialist, but I am slightly against the free market
41:18
in the sense of I do not think we need to be offshoring our
41:21
labor. I actually think we need to be
41:24
punishing companies who offshore labor.
41:26
And it's not only for the reasons of bringing jobs back to
41:30
America, even though that's my main reason.
41:32
My other reason is I don't want slave labor to be supported.
41:36
And I hate that. Like, I own an iPhone, I own an
41:38
iPad, I own a Mac computer. All those were made by slaves
41:42
who probably wanted to, you know, off themselves at some
41:44
point, which is very sad to think about.
41:46
Basically they were paying $2.00 a day a week at that point.
41:50
Like if you because it's basically like you said, it's
41:53
indentured service due to slavery at that point.
41:56
This OK, I this is such an eye opening thing because because we
42:01
have agreements on a lot of different things, right?
42:03
Like the Second Amendment. I fully believe that you have.
42:05
I don't think we'll agree on the way to get to all the things,
42:08
but I think we'll agree on the problems themselves.
42:10
Exactly, exactly. And I think that that's that's
42:13
such an incredible thing. The fact that you that that you
42:16
support citizens like United being removed.
42:18
I think that's also incredible because that's going to help get
42:21
rid of this lobbying issue that we have in the United States.
42:24
That's why they're able to do so many different things with their
42:27
money, when the reality is it's destroying the American dream
42:30
that you're talking about right now.
42:33
This. That.
42:34
Wow, I'm I'm. Yeah.
42:36
I mean, I think if we could bring value back to the dollar,
42:39
the American dream is very like, if you just look at the value of
42:42
the dollar itself and like that's the main metric, you
42:45
could see that we're a country in decline.
42:47
We're an empire in decline because of it.
42:49
Our dollar is the purchasing power of a dollar is now like
42:54
$0.07 from 80 years ago or like 50 years ago or something like
42:57
that. It's just like in the Great
43:00
Depression. I use this example of my show a
43:02
lot. In the Great Depression, people
43:03
were poor and everyone knew that.
43:05
But people, people who had five to $0.10 to their name, they
43:08
could get through the day because $0.05 could get you a
43:10
haircut, $0.05 could get you a meal, $0.10 could get you
43:13
through the entire day. And while it wasn't a lot of
43:17
money, your money went far. And nowadays it doesn't matter
43:21
if you have a lot of money, your money does not go far.
43:23
You need I think like a net worth of like $140,000 in
43:28
America to purchase a single family like shit starter home.
43:31
And not to say they're like shit homes, but it's like relative to
43:34
what you would move up to or what our grandparents or great
43:37
grandparents would have gotten it just they talk about the
43:40
buzzwords a lot in politics. Like I've said, they talk about
43:42
GDP, they talk about job growth, but they don't talk about where
43:46
the job growth comes from. Like we'll probably disagree on
43:48
this point, but like when they talk about job growth they don't
43:52
factor in like American job growth versus imported job
43:55
growth. I look at the American job
43:57
growth and it's not growing that much.
43:59
American born citizens are not getting jobs at the rates they
44:03
should be in my opinion. I think we're importing way too
44:06
many HB1 visas to sustain the like.
44:10
We're not going to be able to give everyone these jobs if we
44:13
keep importing people from other countries when it's not
44:15
necessary. I think we need like they cut
44:18
Carson, they cut him saying this off of the show, but he said
44:22
like, we need to pause on immigration until we can fix the
44:25
problems domestically. And that's kind of my take.
44:27
It's like we need to pause the legal visas we're giving out for
44:30
work. Just because people are willing
44:32
to work doesn't mean we don't have Americans who are also
44:34
willing to work. That just wouldn't accept the
44:36
same, you know, wage that an HP1 visa or an illegal immigrant
44:40
would have. And I think we need to fix those
44:41
issues along with a lot of others.
44:43
But I think that's probably one of the places where we'd like
44:46
disagree on things and like the solution, I'd imagine.
44:49
But I do think it's good that we agree on a lot of these things.
44:52
Yeah, Well, I can sympathize. I can sympathize with that.
44:55
I can understand that Like, you know, getting the American
44:57
people to get the opportunities that they are looking for,
44:59
getting a better future by getting them, you know, these
45:02
different types of jobs, I, I think is a very strong thing
45:05
that you're making, you know, the HP 1 VCs.
45:06
I can, I can understand that for sure, especially because like
45:09
you said, a lot of Americans aren't working to an extent in
45:13
those specific fields. It's just trying to find ways to
45:16
make those fields palpable, you know, or like, appetizing.
45:21
So like, for example, construction work, right?
45:23
Like working on rooftops every single day and putting in
45:25
shingles. Like, yeah, that that is a a job
45:28
that a lot of Americans don't want to do.
45:30
Maybe we should be finding ways to give them incentives as to
45:32
why you should be doing this, you know?
45:34
And a little more, and some in American wages.
45:37
That's what we need. Exactly.
45:39
The way to do that is to make the dollar worth more.
45:42
And how do you make the dollar worth more?
45:44
You stop our government from printing more dollars.
45:46
Why does our government print too many dollars?
45:48
Because we send most of our money overseas.
45:51
If we could stop sending our money overseas and stop funding
45:54
lobbyists, we could bring value back to the dollar and restore
45:57
that. And it all comes back to just
45:59
like the corrupt politicians lobbying and the money we send
46:01
overseas. In my opinion, I think that's
46:03
the root cause of the entire thing.
46:06
There's probably some other things that I can't even see
46:08
because like I said, there's a lot of back end deals that are
46:10
made, but I think that's the root cause of it.
46:13
And I don't know, I think like the point I just made like that
46:17
would be like a big American nationalist point.
46:20
And when they said like we were talking about before we started
46:23
the film, we could start talk about it now.
46:24
The Jubilee episode they just released today, I still got to
46:27
watch it and we'll try and get a reaction video to it.
46:29
But like the far right guys on that, a lot of them can't make
46:33
that point and explain it that way.
46:35
Like they'll explain that point and just like I don't want them
46:37
in this country type deal verse for me, it's it's not really
46:42
about the people themselves or like where they're coming from.
46:45
It's more about the fact that I just want Americans to have
46:47
jobs. I want Americans to be able to
46:49
live the American dream we were promised when we were growing
46:52
up. I want them to be able to afford
46:53
a home and build a family. I want them to be able to start
46:56
a business or, you know, whatever it is.
46:58
And I, I think that's where I differ from a lot of the people
47:01
who were on that episode as a lot of them, it doesn't
47:03
necessarily come from hate, but some of them it might.
47:05
But it comes from a place of I just don't want these people in
47:08
my country. And for me, it's not as much as
47:11
it's not that. It's just, I just want Americans
47:14
to succeed, and I want to put Americans over everyone else.
47:17
That and, and that I can, I can understand for sure, especially
47:20
because of what you're talking about.
47:23
There's, there's an interesting thing that I was looking up too,
47:25
because you're talking about like, you know, money printing
47:28
money lobbying and things of that nature.
47:29
Would you also be for what they call the great compression?
47:33
Have you heard of that before? No, I have.
47:37
Not so This I believe happened roughly in the 40s and 50s,
47:40
mostly the 50s where after a certain amount of money that
47:45
someone gets in passive income, it was at that time it was like
47:48
$100,000 or like $200,000 or something.
47:50
That would be roughly like $510,000,000 in in this time.
47:53
After that $10 million for people that have passive income.
47:58
Any dollar above that, it would be taxed at like 90% or some
48:02
crazy number like that. So like in a, it's, it's a, it's
48:05
a pretty extensive thing. It sounds kind of crazy, but for
48:10
people that are like Bezos or even Musk, like this kind of
48:14
that that kind of thing helped basically turn around what
48:18
happened in the 40s because of all the bonds that we paid out,
48:20
all of the different things that we paid out for the for the
48:22
wars. I not to say that that would be
48:26
like the the ideal thing that I would think that could help, but
48:29
something close to it where it's like, OK, you guys have this.
48:32
Like a tax pass your billions dollar or something.
48:35
Right, because it's like you guys have like a crazy amount
48:38
like not you guys, but like, you know, you know, these like
48:40
billionaires and stuff have crazy amounts of money.
48:42
But like if they paid a good amount of that back, it could
48:45
help bring down things like the deficit.
48:46
It could help bring back, you know, American jobs and stuff
48:49
like that. What do you, what do you, what
48:51
do you think? Or because like because?
48:52
The reason that wouldn't work is you would have to restructure
48:56
the tax code because even if they, the tax code is 80,000
49:00
pages and it's 80,000 pages of how not to pay your taxes, not
49:04
how to pay your taxes. It's all how to avoid it.
49:07
That's the entire tax code. That's all it is.
49:09
Yeah. So and you know, they, these
49:11
guys who have that money, they have the best lawyers and Cpas
49:14
that exist. They have the best access in the
49:17
world. So then they're not going to
49:19
have to pay taxes unless you rewrite the even if you said
49:21
like you're going to have to pay 90% taxes on this, they'll write
49:25
it off. They'll find a way to show no
49:27
profit. They'll find a way.
49:28
Like they will find a way around that unless we got rid of the
49:31
tax code. So I think the tax code is the
49:34
problem there, but I don't think that taxing is the right way.
49:37
I think tariffs are a pretty strong way to do things.
49:40
More fair trade agreements are, I think I'm not a big tax this
49:45
guy. I'm not, I'm not a oblivious to
49:48
the fact that they are necessary in the current society we have,
49:51
we don't live in the society that they used to have where
49:54
like they put a 2% tax on T and we could revolt over that.
49:57
Like we don't live in that, but we are overly taxed.
50:00
I think taxes should be a lot different.
50:03
My tax take is I think we need 10% flat tax all around with no
50:07
write offs. And that in the short term would
50:11
impact the lower income earners a little bit more.
50:15
But if you were able to bring value back to the dollar, it
50:19
wouldn't negatively impact anybody.
50:21
That's kind of my take on it. We would need to bring value
50:23
back to the dollar before we could implement something like
50:25
that. But I don't think it taxed to
50:27
the like 90th or even like above 50.
50:30
I think it's just absurd. I think that goes against what
50:33
American values would be. I think if we're going to make
50:36
money, it would need to be from, like I said, a tariff style
50:40
system or maybe a lower tax system, but with no write offs
50:43
at all. Like no tax code.
50:45
Because if, if Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos had to pay 10 billion or
50:49
10% of their billions they made that year in, you know, with no
50:54
write offs, it would be a substantial amount of money and
50:57
it would be overwhelming what from what they pay now.
51:01
And it's just those like, and those two are just one example.
51:03
Like imagine the other people that are here that have like
51:05
hundreds of billions of dollars every single year.
51:07
Like it would be absolutely wild to just see.
51:10
I also. Just don't think guys like that
51:12
would necessarily. It's not that they wouldn't
51:14
exist, but they wouldn't exist to their degree in a true
51:17
American nationalist society. Like in a true American
51:19
nationalist society, they would never be as rich as they are
51:23
because they would all their workers would make a lot more,
51:26
or at least all their American workers would make a lot more.
51:29
They would not be able to. Like if they were manufacturing
51:35
in other countries doing things like that, they would be either
51:38
penalized for it or some other form where the American
51:41
government's getting money out of them because of it.
51:45
So it's like while they would still be rich, it would never be
51:49
to the degree that they are because it just wouldn't be
51:51
possible because they would have to be giving out a lot more
51:53
money. So you're wanting, you're
51:55
wanting it less to be like low income, high income and you want
51:59
to equal out a little bit more is what you're saying?
52:02
Yeah, I mean, I'm not, I'm not 100% for the free market.
52:06
Like I said, I think the free market actually works against
52:08
the American consumer in a lot of ways because you create these
52:11
knockoffs, you support slave labor.
52:13
You, you create all this competition against American
52:16
business when we don't need it. Like I don't think we should be.
52:19
There are very few products that are not made in America that I
52:21
think we should actually sell in America.
52:23
I think there's very, very few products.
52:26
Like there's obviously some things we just don't have the
52:29
raw materials in America for. But when it comes to like buying
52:32
a plate or a cup or a table or like, you know, your water or a
52:36
book or whatever the fuck, all these things can be made in
52:39
America, but they're not. And that's my problem is I want
52:43
more domestic manufacturing. I don't want companies to be
52:46
able to, you know, like I, I don't mean tariffs in the way of
52:50
like companies can manufacture and then they have to pay a
52:53
tariff to import their products to sell them in the United
52:55
States. Like that's not allowed in my
52:57
American National society at all.
52:59
Like that's not even a, if they are doing that, they're paying
53:01
fines that are greater than what they'd make in that sense.
53:05
I I want them to manufacture their goods in the United
53:08
States, pay American laborers American wages, and sell their
53:11
products, possibly a little bit more money, but in the same time
53:14
we'll bring value back to the dollar so your dollar can go
53:17
further and achieve more. Interesting.
53:20
It's almost my what I pitch is almost a complete overhaul of
53:23
the government verse verse changing the actual system
53:27
itself. But it's a far fetched out there
53:29
idea. But it is something that I think
53:31
our founders would would want. This means I'm just going to do
53:36
I need to read more of the tax code I have.
53:37
No, I I know Jack Dilly, you'll never shit about the tax code.
53:40
It's that thing fucking it's so boring I.
53:43
Read like 25 pages and I was like I'm going to fucking die.
53:47
Yeah, reading all these excerpts too from like these bills and
53:50
stuff, it's like, okay, I'm starting to understand it, but
53:52
in the beginning it was like God fucking damn, it's so boring.
53:56
But yeah, dude, I, when we, when we come back on Wednesday and
54:00
watch the Jubilee video, I would love to, I love to pick
54:04
everybody's brains on this, on this video and just see what's
54:07
happening. I'm not going to watch it just
54:08
specifically because of that. Yeah, I'm going to wait till,
54:11
I'll wait till Wednesday because I want to, I want a pure
54:13
reaction of this thing too, because like I said, I kind of
54:15
know one of the guys on it too. I don't know him, but I've
54:17
talked to him through social media a couple times and.
54:20
Like, sort of. Kind of, I don't know, I'm
54:21
curious how they're how they're going to edit this.
54:25
Yeah, Speaking of before, before things are finalized, because
54:30
you were talking about having somebody that's grass roots.
54:33
You want somebody that's not being lobbied here in the in the
54:36
state of Florida as an example or just in general.
54:38
One person that I'm actually going to talk to on Tuesday, his
54:40
name is Louis de Villa. He's going to be running for
54:43
House of District 48. He's TikTok handle is Louis de
54:48
Villa for FL house. So it's his last name is DAVILA.
54:55
So he looks like I just found him.
54:58
I found his website. So I'm going to be looking, I'm
55:01
going to be talking with him on Tuesday and trying to like pick
55:03
his mind and stuff and see a little bit more on who he is as
55:06
a part, you know, in his in his mindset.
55:07
But if you're looking for somebody that is grassroots,
55:10
yes, he is a Democrat, But like he, he could be somebody that
55:13
you could talk to and kind of pick your, you know, pick his
55:15
brain and see like what he wants to do for that specific district
55:18
or that, you know, for the state of Florida.
55:20
And honestly, I think that, you know that it, it was crazy how
55:25
like he came up out of nowhere. I was actually debating somebody
55:27
and like he just came up out of the blue and was like, oh, hey,
55:29
look at that. Like I want to talk to you a
55:31
little bit more so. I'll let you know.
55:32
No, no, I'm looking at his website now.
55:34
I'm going to I'm going to read into him.
55:36
Yeah. I mean, I'll talk to any
55:37
political candidate, see what their views are.
55:39
And I I'm like I said, the lobbying is one of my biggest
55:43
issues now just because I've realized that like someone like.
55:47
I think Trump was the biggest eye opener for a lot of people,
55:49
especially people like me who it's Trump for a long time
55:52
seemed untouchable to lobbying. Like I said, he was a self
55:56
funded billionaire. It didn't seem like money could
55:58
influence that guy at all. He even forfeited his salary.
56:01
But then to go from that to taking hundreds of millions of
56:05
dollars, almost a billion dollars from different
56:07
lobbyists, including Israeli lobbyists.
56:08
And then we're seeing them like cash those checks in real time
56:11
by us bombing Iran for them and burying the Epstein information.
56:15
Because like I said, I am a true believer that that is Mossad.
56:19
It was a Mossad operation. Yeah, 100 percent, 100%.
56:23
I cannot wait to hear what John and and even.
56:28
I'm going to text John right after this, and I'm going to ask
56:30
John if he's down for Wednesday. I'm sure he will, yeah.
56:33
Yeah, 100%. I'm I'm full.
56:34
I'm perfectly OK with just sitting here all day on
56:37
Wednesday and just like watching the video and talking and
56:39
shooting the shit. I think it would be awesome.
56:40
Yeah, I'll do it. We could even do it live if you
56:43
want. We could do it.
56:44
Absolutely. If you want to, yeah of.
56:46
Course I've been doing live a lot.
56:48
I haven't gone live in so long. You know what?
56:50
I'm gonna do that too. I'll go back.
56:52
I'll go back on Twitch and we'll just, we'll just do it online.
56:55
We'll just fuck it. We'll do it live.
56:56
Is there a way to do like collaborations on like I do live
57:00
on Twitch and I do it on Rumble just through like an RTPM or
57:03
whatever the fuck it's called? I'm sure there's a way we could
57:06
like link our things to it. Yeah, they just started.
57:09
A thing now where you're able to do it with multiple people.
57:11
So if you want to do that, I'm 100% down for that.
57:15
Yeah, that'll be very fun. Yeah, I'm going to I'll text
57:17
John too, not to watch the John's definitely still sleeping
57:21
right now on Sunday, but I'm going to text him not to watch
57:24
it until Wednesday so we can get a future reactions because yeah,
57:27
I think that would be a really good one.
57:29
I think all of us generally agree on a lot of the things.
57:32
We're not going to agree on the the end solution, but we're
57:36
we're going to agree on the diagnosis.
57:38
For the most part though, I think we're all pretty level
57:41
headed in the sense of like, I don't know, as much as you don't
57:45
like Trump, you know, I don't think you're very unreasonable
57:50
compared to like some people who just say like, oh, literally
57:53
everything in the world that guy touches is bad.
57:55
And like me, you know, I have no problem calling Trump out,
57:59
calling JD Vance out, calling literally every neo con who
58:03
takes money from Israel or takes money from any of these war
58:06
lobbies out. It's my least favorite thing.
58:08
I I voted for no new wars. I voted for the release of the
58:12
Epstein information and I voted for the mass deportations.
58:15
And we're kind of getting none of them.
58:17
The closest thing we're getting is the deportations, but they're
58:20
not mass. I mean, when you look at the
58:22
numbers relative to Obama, they have, they've self deported
58:25
1,000,000, which is pretty decent actually.
58:28
And they have deported 150,000. That's not a lot compared to
58:34
like Obama had like 2 million a year or something like Obama
58:37
was. Was chugging them out.
58:40
The other problem too is that like the the way that you're
58:42
doing it, from what I read from Stephen Miller, he's like, I
58:45
want quotas of like 3000 people. Now you're just picking people
58:48
and you're just kind of just pointing and and just pointing
58:50
click at this point you're not even actually going through like
58:53
the process correctly. And I think that's also a huge,
58:56
huge issue. I don't think that we should be
58:59
because I think you would agree on this.
59:00
Like you want it, you want it done right, you want it done
59:03
correctly. Like that's what that's what
59:05
happens in our in our country, you know, and I think.
59:07
That I want it done correct. I think we would disagree on
59:09
what done correct means though. I get.
59:12
I get. That like for me like my done
59:14
correct would be like are they an illegal immigrant?
59:16
Yes or no? Can you prove it?
59:18
Yes or no? OK, then deport them.
59:20
That's it. It's not even like can you prove
59:21
it in court. It's like, do you have the
59:23
paperwork in front of you that shows with no doubt that they
59:27
are an illegal immigrant, support them.
59:29
That's that's my entire like that's what due process is for
59:32
me. Yeah, we could.
59:33
And we definitely could like debate that too.
59:35
And like this here I think having multiples of us will be
59:38
good but. No, I know you got to go too, so
59:41
I'm not going to keep you much longer, but it was great having
59:43
you discussing all this stuff. We'll definitely get back on
59:46
Wednesday, talk more. We'll see if we can get John and
59:48
Sydney on. I'll reach out to both.
59:50
I'm sure they'll reach out to Sydney too, but we'll schedule
59:52
that. We'll try and do a live show.
59:54
It was fun having you. I'm glad we agree on a lot of
59:56
these things. If you have any closing things
59:58
you want to say to the people, feel free to.
1:00:00
Yeah, to anybody that's in District 48 in the state of
1:00:03
Florida, Louis Davila for flhouse.com, that is his
1:00:07
website. If you're going to if you want
1:00:08
to ask questions, definitely, you know, connect with him.
1:00:10
He is also on TikTok a lot too. And you know, I'm going to be
1:00:14
meeting up with him and I'll let you guys know what I think.
1:00:16
But hey, listen man, keep keep your hand on a swivel, you know,
1:00:19
plug. Your plug your social medias in
1:00:21
there too because I can't put links in the description
1:00:23
anymore. YouTube is being weird about
1:00:25
that, but I'll plug them and I'll pop them on the screen.
1:00:28
I appreciate that Mister Finney Moore on Instagram, on TikTok,
1:00:32
Mr. Finney more 3 Mr. Finney Moore on Twitch and on YouTube
1:00:37
it is same thing. Mr. Finney Moore, Matthew Finney
1:00:39
More you can find me on there. Yeah, I'm putting out more
1:00:42
stuff, you know, whether it's silly or not.
1:00:43
But yeah, man, I'm excited for Wednesday and it'll be cool to
1:00:47
have like the whole gang back together and just to talk about
1:00:49
things. It'll be fun.
1:00:51
Hell yeah, man. But thank you for thank you for
1:00:53
hopping on the show. It was a good time.
1:00:56
Yeah, man.