Latest / Foul Territory / Pirates nightmare, Chandler Simpson’s need for speed, Rockies abyss
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- 0:00Speaker 1: They've they've been slow to pivot, so when will they do?
- 0:02Speaker 1: They will require an eventual ownership change, whenever that day
- 0:06Speaker 1: might come. But yeah, the Rockies are behind the curve
- 0:08Speaker 1: in a lot of areas.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Here we go.
- 0:13Speaker 3: We're excited to have Travis Sauchik back on the show
- 0:16Speaker 3: with us MLB writer for the Score. Has really great
- 0:19Speaker 3: books out there as well, a really good follow up
- 0:21Speaker 3: at Travis Underscore saw Chick.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Travis.
- 0:24Speaker 3: Great to have you on. We're going to start with
- 0:26Speaker 3: a team that is near and dear to your heart.
- 0:28Speaker 3: I'll let you start. There's a lot of different layers here.
- 0:31Speaker 3: What happened in Pittsburgh this past weekend.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Well, they lost, they lost, which we knew what is
- 0:37Speaker 2: going on?
- 0:38Speaker 1: Oh man. I was a beat writer for the Tribune
- 0:42Speaker 1: Review in Pittsburgh in twenty thirteen to twenty sixteen, which
- 0:46Speaker 1: was the peak period to be there since like the
- 0:50Speaker 1: seventy nine World Series, they made three straight playoff trips.
- 0:53Speaker 1: So I was there for the good times. But this
- 0:55Speaker 1: pack week, this past weekend was was It was interesting.
- 0:59Speaker 1: I know there's been a lot of animosity between the
- 1:03Speaker 1: fan base and ownership just because of the lack of
- 1:05Speaker 1: spend during Bob Nottings nineteen years as the principal owner,
- 1:11Speaker 1: they've been a bottom a twenty six or lower opening
- 1:14Speaker 1: day payroll in seventeen of nineteen of those seasons. So
- 1:18Speaker 1: the fan bases of course frustrated with that. And then
- 1:21Speaker 1: there's a performance on the field, and then in winning
- 1:23Speaker 1: that lottery ticket that is Paul Skins, there's this expectation
- 1:27Speaker 1: that if not now win and then there's just a
- 1:31Speaker 1: lack of commitment this offseason to improving the club. So
- 1:34Speaker 1: you have all that, and then a pile on top
- 1:36Speaker 1: of that heap of anger are two pr hits in
- 1:40Speaker 1: which during the opening homestand the Clemente Wall signage had
- 1:49Speaker 1: been which had been their last several seasons. I think
- 1:51Speaker 1: it's a Clemente twenty one, of course, the great pirate
- 1:55Speaker 1: and humanitarian to commemorate the wall, and that had been
- 1:58Speaker 1: removed ad for a hard lemonade beverage had been placed up,
- 2:03Speaker 1: so that angered people, including Clementi's own son on social media.
- 2:07Speaker 1: And then the real the other prsna FU was these
- 2:13Speaker 1: Bucco bricks in which people had purchased personalized brooks of
- 2:20Speaker 1: sorts that were put in the pavement outside of PNC Park.
- 2:23Speaker 1: So they're just folks names or messages to loved one,
- 2:27Speaker 1: honoring the ceased loved ones. Folks, some fanc ha notices
- 2:31Speaker 1: were removed and they had asked a local I think
- 2:32Speaker 1: it was a local CBS affiliate, and Pittsburgh had gone
- 2:36Speaker 1: out to investigate and they found that they had been
- 2:39Speaker 1: removed without The pirates had not informed anyone, but they'd
- 2:42Speaker 1: removed these bricks and they'd sent them to this recycling center,
- 2:47Speaker 1: so I think it was Katie K and Pittsburgh had
- 2:49Speaker 1: images photos of just this heap of bucko bricks, these
- 2:52Speaker 1: personal mentos that had just been discarded without any notice.
- 2:57Speaker 3: You know.
- 2:57Speaker 1: The pirates claimed that they were going to you know,
- 3:02Speaker 1: put up another way to honor folks that had purchased
- 3:06Speaker 1: these bricks and whatnot, but just to see to have
- 3:08Speaker 1: that image and not give fans a chance to reclaim
- 3:12Speaker 1: the stone the bricks that they have. Like in Cleveland,
- 3:15Speaker 1: my own dad had bought us bricks back when Progressive
- 3:19Speaker 1: Field open and when they remove those, they gave chance,
- 3:22Speaker 1: they gave fans a location day to pick them up
- 3:24Speaker 1: if they wanted to retrieve them. They've removed from renovation.
- 3:27Speaker 1: So I think you saw all that we saw them
- 3:31Speaker 1: to sell the team chance and just all this animos.
- 3:33Speaker 1: He's just been reaching a boiling point. And I think,
- 3:37Speaker 1: just in addition to the on the field failures, that
- 3:40Speaker 1: the pr hits of just fans are at a breaking
- 3:43Speaker 1: point in Pittsburgh. And I think you know we can
- 3:45Speaker 1: understand that just as baseball fans.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Travis.
- 3:48Speaker 4: So, you mean they took the bricks out, got rid
- 3:50Speaker 4: of them, and now they're going to resell more bricks,
- 3:52Speaker 4: probably to try to make more money without giving.
- 3:54Speaker 2: The old people.
- 3:55Speaker 4: And that's crazy to me that you don't give people
- 3:57Speaker 4: a chance to come get their bricks and you do this.
- 4:00Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe I'm way off on this one.
- 4:01Speaker 4: That just seems crazy that they would not give people
- 4:04Speaker 4: a chance to come get the brick that they paid
- 4:07Speaker 4: their money.
- 4:07Speaker 1: For, right right, You think it would be simple PR
- 4:10Speaker 1: to allow the folks if I think they were intending
- 4:13Speaker 1: to replace them, but just even if you are, just
- 4:16Speaker 1: to allow folks to reclaim them, it just seems like
- 4:19Speaker 1: an obvious pr PR thing to do. Other teams have
- 4:22Speaker 1: done it. There's a roadmap, and I think the Pirates
- 4:25Speaker 1: over the weekend now there it was supposed to. I
- 4:28Speaker 1: believe the first twenty thousand in for the Skiens Bibbleheaday,
- 4:32Speaker 1: I believe it was Saturday. It was supposed to be
- 4:34Speaker 1: limited to twenty thousand. I think the Pirates are looking
- 4:36Speaker 1: for some PR wins, so now they're any fan who
- 4:39Speaker 1: is at the game will get a Skien's bobblehead. So
- 4:41Speaker 1: they're trying to They're trying to make up with some
- 4:43Speaker 1: other PR victories. But yeah, just it is one thing
- 4:48Speaker 1: after another in Pittsburgh. And it's a shame because there
- 4:50Speaker 1: is a gre There's a sleeping giant fan base there.
- 4:52Speaker 1: We saw it in the I think back to the
- 4:54Speaker 1: twenty thirteen wild Card game that environment there when Pirates
- 4:58Speaker 1: beat the Reds and Johnny Quato dropped ball on the mound.
- 5:00Speaker 1: So there is a sleeping Giant fan base. We see
- 5:03Speaker 1: how the Steelers are supported, the Penguins when they're in
- 5:06Speaker 1: the playoffs, how they're supported. So you know, this isn't
- 5:09Speaker 1: a city that needs a new stadium. They have a
- 5:11Speaker 1: great stadium. They have a great sleeping giant fan base.
- 5:14Speaker 1: They just need they need a better on the field product.
- 5:17Speaker 1: They need more ownership commitment, and you know, I think
- 5:22Speaker 1: baseball be better if there's a legitimate effort to build
- 5:24Speaker 1: a winner around Paul Skeen's and Bubba Chandler who's on
- 5:27Speaker 1: the doorstep. So hopefully parts fans get that one day.
- 5:32Speaker 1: All right.
- 5:32Speaker 5: I have two questions. First one is not serious, the
- 5:34Speaker 5: second one serious. Did they can you confirm that they
- 5:37Speaker 5: sent surfside hard lemonades to the people who their bricks
- 5:41Speaker 5: got taken out instead of sending the bricks back, So
- 5:44Speaker 5: it's kind of like a full circle thing.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's a Clemente edition surfside lemony. Can I
- 5:50Speaker 1: don't know? Okay, okay, yeah, Yeah.
- 5:57Speaker 5: The serious question is because I saw Ertal Clemente Junior
- 6:01Speaker 5: and his family throughout the first pitch, do you any
- 6:05Speaker 5: idea or inkling or have you heard anything? Has the
- 6:08Speaker 5: relationship been mended? Because synonymous with the Pirates is the Clementes.
- 6:16Speaker 5: Roberto Clemente, what he did for Latin players in the
- 6:20Speaker 5: game is seen throughout baseball, but in the Pirates organization,
- 6:26Speaker 5: I mean you go down to Pirates City, you go
- 6:27Speaker 5: down to Pirate City in the dr the complex that
- 6:30Speaker 5: they built down there, like it's Roberto Clemente everywhere. Has
- 6:35Speaker 5: that relationship been mended or is this something that will
- 6:37Speaker 5: take a little bit of time.
- 6:40Speaker 1: I think if it has been damaged, it'll it will
- 6:44Speaker 1: be mended over time. And to the Pirate's credit, there
- 6:46Speaker 1: is there's many tributes to Clemente and throughout pnc P
- 6:51Speaker 1: and c Park throughout the organization, as you mentioned, but
- 6:56Speaker 1: this was one of the most visible ones. So why
- 6:57Speaker 1: take that signage down on the wall Clemente wall? It
- 7:01Speaker 1: was it was an odd choice not to communicate with
- 7:03Speaker 1: the family or given anyone heads up, just these unforced
- 7:07Speaker 1: communication areas. So you know, you can make an argument
- 7:12Speaker 1: that twenty one should be you know, retired everywhere, and
- 7:16Speaker 1: I you know the pirates have I believe, pushed for that,
- 7:18Speaker 1: so I think we'll see that relationship mended over time.
- 7:21Speaker 1: This is just an unfortunate case that of course had
- 7:24Speaker 1: a lot of eyeballs on it too, since it was
- 7:25Speaker 1: the home opener opening weekend and an addition to all
- 7:29Speaker 1: the other Pirates related issues going on. But yeah, it
- 7:32Speaker 1: was an unforced air and you don't like to see those.
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- 8:37Speaker 3: So let's get into the team for a moment here.
- 8:39Speaker 3: What did you see this weekend that is really not
- 8:42Speaker 3: working out for the ball club. Of course, they lose
- 8:45Speaker 3: on the schemes Bobblehead Day. I mean, his quotes seem
- 8:48Speaker 3: honestly kind of depressing, where he's like, positive things in
- 8:51Speaker 3: friendships don't win championships. The other thing I don't want
- 8:54Speaker 3: to overlook is Andrew McCutcheon tweeting. His tweet got overshadowed
- 8:58Speaker 3: by Accunya's tweet, but cut put out a tweet like
- 9:01Speaker 3: you're sitting me. Gotts looks pretty damn good for them
- 9:04Speaker 3: right now. So what are they doing? They do a
- 9:07Speaker 3: little platoon city with Ben Charrington and the boys in
- 9:10Speaker 3: the front office, And why is the offense so bad?
- 9:15Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I saw the mccutch and tweet and that
- 9:20Speaker 1: was interesting. This lineup, there's just so many below replacement
- 9:25Speaker 1: level performers right now offensively, and it's unfortunate because you
- 9:28Speaker 1: think about schemes. Of course, Mitch Keller's is at the
- 9:33Speaker 1: very least competent innings eater. Hopefully they have Jared Jones
- 9:37Speaker 1: coming back in a few months, getting you have Buffa
- 9:39Speaker 1: Chandler in a doorstep, arguably the top pitching prospect of baseball.
- 9:42Speaker 1: But you have this lineup that just has too many
- 9:45Speaker 1: voids in it. Outside of O'Neil Cruz and Brian Reynolds
- 9:48Speaker 1: has been dealing with the triceps injury, and he's your
- 9:50Speaker 1: most consistent offensive performer. And just to you know, one
- 9:54Speaker 1: of the big issues is under ben Cherrington, they have
- 9:57Speaker 1: not produced an above average position player yet in year six.
- 10:00Speaker 1: I think of the regime regime, I think they've had
- 10:03Speaker 1: some more promising drafts later, but internally they haven't found solutions.
- 10:08Speaker 1: They're big off season addition with Spencer Horwitz from the
- 10:11Speaker 1: Blue Jays who's been hurt with a wrist injury, and
- 10:14Speaker 1: even Hords at his best is probably a platoon option
- 10:16Speaker 1: in first base. The other external ads or you know
- 10:20Speaker 1: Tommy fam and Andrew McCutcheon who's off to a solid start.
- 10:24Speaker 1: But these are older players, and to think that there's
- 10:28Speaker 1: no ability to add more, to not be a little
- 10:31Speaker 1: more urgent and making a trade, if ownership as a commitment,
- 10:34Speaker 1: it's a little baffling. Considering the young starting pitching wealth
- 10:38Speaker 1: you have as a club, you could it's almost like
- 10:40Speaker 1: the equivalent to having a star quarterback in the NFL
- 10:43Speaker 1: and a rookie deal with these young arms. To not
- 10:45Speaker 1: build around that advantage is baffling, and it has a
- 10:49Speaker 1: lot of folks in Pittsburgh questioning, if not now, when
- 10:52Speaker 1: this should be the time to bolster that lineup and
- 10:55Speaker 1: build a better supporting cast for schemes and company.
- 11:00Speaker 4: Well A Skeen says, positive things and friendships don't win championships.
- 11:03Speaker 4: So another team we want to ask you about is
- 11:04Speaker 4: the Rockies. They get all kinds of positive things and
- 11:07Speaker 4: friendships going on in Denver, they draw almost three million
- 11:10Speaker 4: fans a year, but they still aren't very good.
- 11:12Speaker 2: What the heck's going on in Denver?
- 11:16Speaker 5: Yeah, I was.
- 11:17Speaker 1: I looked this up and not that it's a bill
- 11:20Speaker 1: end all, but the Fangrafts playoff odds going the as
- 11:24Speaker 1: of April twentieth, the Rockies haven't had better than zero
- 11:27Speaker 1: percent playoff chances a cornet Fangrafts since twenty nineteen, I believe.
- 11:31Speaker 1: So it's just part of that is a testament to
- 11:34Speaker 1: the strength of the NLS.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Wait, can you say that again? I don't think my
- 11:39Speaker 2: earpieces work. You say that again, please. Yeah, it's twenty nineteen,
- 11:43Speaker 2: April twenty.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Tieth, April twentieth, they haven't had maybe it's higher than
- 11:48Speaker 1: one percent playoff chances, but it's been below one percent
- 11:51Speaker 1: as of April twentieth every year.
- 11:53Speaker 4: Since, so that since four twenty, the Rockies can't get
- 11:58Speaker 4: high enough.
- 11:58Speaker 2: And I mean there's a million, there's a million jokes
- 12:02Speaker 2: in there, but go ahead.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just it's unfortunate because it's such a
- 12:08Speaker 1: great ballpark to go watch a game, and yeah, it
- 12:13Speaker 1: speaks to it's a challenge to win in Denver, of course,
- 12:15Speaker 1: to build a pitching staff, and it speaks to the
- 12:18Speaker 1: quality of the Dodgers, Diamondbacks Padres of course, but the
- 12:22Speaker 1: Rockies are viewed as being behind the curve and not
- 12:25Speaker 1: just analytics, but player development and how well they've scouted
- 12:29Speaker 1: and developed. So it's organizational. It's not even so much
- 12:33Speaker 1: a spending issue like in Pittsburgh as they've signed players
- 12:35Speaker 1: like Chris Bryan to large deals. It's more of a
- 12:39Speaker 1: are you on the cut do you are you involved
- 12:42Speaker 1: in creating the best practice as possible from not just
- 12:44Speaker 1: analytics building out that department, but player development, scouting. I
- 12:48Speaker 1: think you talked to folks in the game and they're
- 12:50Speaker 1: one of the lower ranked organizations across the board in
- 12:54Speaker 1: those categories. So they really need sweeping investment in those
- 12:59Speaker 1: areas and change the organization, and I don't know. Uh,
- 13:02Speaker 1: they've they've been slow to pivot. So when will they do?
- 13:05Speaker 1: They won't require an eventual ownership change whenever that day
- 13:09Speaker 1: might come. But yeah, the Rockies are behind the curve
- 13:11Speaker 1: in a lot of areas.
- 13:14Speaker 5: Let's go to Spencer Strider and the conversation that you
- 13:17Speaker 5: had with him about his second elbow surgery. Are we
- 13:21Speaker 5: at the point in the game where we still don't
- 13:23Speaker 5: know anything? I think one of your quotes was doctor
- 13:26Speaker 5: meister even didn't really give him an idea of where
- 13:30Speaker 5: he should be, if if I read that correctly, when
- 13:33Speaker 5: Strider was talking to you about it. Are we at
- 13:35Speaker 5: the point where such a good player that's young like
- 13:39Speaker 5: this having a second surgery, he could be the one
- 13:43Speaker 5: that's the like the next Nathan Valdi, or is he
- 13:47Speaker 5: going to fall into the category of every other pitcher
- 13:50Speaker 5: that has had their second Tommy John surgery or bracing
- 13:54Speaker 5: whatever elbow surgery.
- 13:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:57Speaker 1: I spoke to Strider because I was curious. Yeah, of course,
- 14:00Speaker 1: so many pictures have had Tommy John. Now I believe
- 14:03Speaker 1: it's like something else outrageous, Like thirty six percent of
- 14:06Speaker 1: active Major league pictures have had Tommy John, and the
- 14:10Speaker 1: first time you have Tommy John, it is something of
- 14:12Speaker 1: a miracle procedure where almost all pictures come back and many,
- 14:16Speaker 1: the majority come back to a performance level near where
- 14:20Speaker 1: they were prior to the surgery. But it's that second operation,
- 14:23Speaker 1: that second Tommy John, where the track record is really poor.
- 14:27Speaker 1: MLB's injury studying December, I believe it was fifty they
- 14:31Speaker 1: found fifty six percent of second Tommy John recipients returned
- 14:34Speaker 1: near their previous level, which is not good. And Jeffrey Dugas,
- 14:39Speaker 1: who innovated the internal brace procedure, told me that only
- 14:44Speaker 1: forty two percent of second Timmy John cases have exceeded
- 14:47Speaker 1: ten plus out starts in the major leagues after that.
- 14:50Speaker 1: So it's really the second operation there's so troublesome much
- 14:53Speaker 1: second Tommy John. And I wanted to speak with Strider
- 14:55Speaker 1: because he wanted to avoid Tommy John if he could,
- 14:58Speaker 1: and he did. But as you mentioned, going in that
- 15:01Speaker 1: procedure before he was put under anesthesia, it was I'm
- 15:06Speaker 1: trying to it was meister who did the surgery, and
- 15:09Speaker 1: as good as MRIs are, Meister wasn't didn't want to
- 15:12Speaker 1: commit until he actually opened up the elbow and he
- 15:14Speaker 1: wanted to have a menu of options available, including Tommy John.
- 15:17Speaker 1: But when he began the operation, he found that Strider's
- 15:23Speaker 1: damage wasn't as bad as they had feared, and because
- 15:26Speaker 1: of the location of his injury, he was a candidate
- 15:29Speaker 1: for the internal brace. And I was curious in writing this,
- 15:33Speaker 1: speaking Strider and writing this piece, is why do so
- 15:36Speaker 1: many second Tommy John's fail And are there breakthroughs and
- 15:40Speaker 1: surgery and medical sports science advancement where we can have
- 15:44Speaker 1: some better outcomes in second operations? And can we avoid
- 15:47Speaker 1: second Tommy John's with something like an internal brace. So
- 15:50Speaker 1: Strider was and we can get into details if you'd like,
- 15:53Speaker 1: but Strider was a candidate for the internal brace, and
- 15:56Speaker 1: the hope is that there can be some better outcomes.
- 15:59Speaker 1: It'll that because of how the procedure works, there will
- 16:03Speaker 1: be more successes like Brian wu is an example in Seattle,
- 16:07Speaker 1: and the NFL brought Purty is probably the most notable
- 16:10Speaker 1: exam success story of the internal brace. But Strider did
- 16:13Speaker 1: take a risk as when he had the surgery, I
- 16:16Speaker 1: think there only been forty pitchers above the Division one
- 16:19Speaker 1: college level that had the internal brace done. So it
- 16:22Speaker 1: is something to go into that surgery room and be
- 16:25Speaker 1: open to that as an option. It was a little risk,
- 16:28Speaker 1: but Strider is very He's a very science data minded
- 16:33Speaker 1: based player, and he trusted my Street, trusted the early returns,
- 16:37Speaker 1: and so far in the field it looks encouraging for Strider.
- 16:41Speaker 3: Travis last one for a Chandler Simpson made his debut
- 16:45Speaker 3: this weekend.
- 16:46Speaker 2: I love speed.
- 16:47Speaker 3: I've been looking forward to this getting some Billy Hamilton comps,
- 16:50Speaker 3: although technically, if you look at the power it's even
- 16:54Speaker 3: less than what Billy brought to the table. I just
- 16:56Speaker 3: want to know if he's going to get on base
- 16:57Speaker 3: enough to really be a problem. Plus, right now they
- 17:00Speaker 3: actually have some outbuilders playing well. So anyway, add it
- 17:03Speaker 3: all up. Are you excited about this player when you
- 17:05Speaker 3: think about him? What do I guess numbers say in
- 17:09Speaker 3: terms of how he could fare in the big leagues?
- 17:13Speaker 1: Yeah, just as a fan of the game, it would
- 17:15Speaker 1: be so great if he can stick for the rays
- 17:17Speaker 1: and be this hundred base stolen base through at the
- 17:21Speaker 1: top of line. That'd be great for the game that
- 17:23Speaker 1: we do. Hear to Billy Hamilton comps and Hamilton if
- 17:27Speaker 1: he just got on base, he could have been such
- 17:30Speaker 1: a fun, dynamic player. And I don't think Chandler is
- 17:34Speaker 1: going to be Simpson because if you look at his
- 17:38Speaker 1: minor league track record, he doesn't have any power. I
- 17:41Speaker 1: don't think he's ever hit an out of the park
- 17:43Speaker 1: home run, but he's always been an elite contact hitter.
- 17:46Speaker 1: In last season, he had an eight and a half
- 17:49Speaker 1: percent strikeout right of minors, which amongs. They were like
- 17:52Speaker 1: eleven hundred qualified minor league hitters, he had the thirteenth
- 17:55Speaker 1: lowest strikeout rate. So this is a player with great
- 17:58Speaker 1: back to ball skills. And when he puts the ball
- 18:00Speaker 1: on the ground in play, as we sell over the weekend,
- 18:03Speaker 1: he's a threat to get on base. As we say,
- 18:06Speaker 1: the hit that broke up freeds no hitter, Well, I
- 18:09Speaker 1: guess later rule to hit, but he's going to contact
- 18:12Speaker 1: the ball. He is going to get on base at
- 18:14Speaker 1: a greater clip than Hamilton ever did. And like when
- 18:17Speaker 1: Simpson told me in the spring, when he gets hunt
- 18:20Speaker 1: for space, he views himself as being in scoring position.
- 18:23Speaker 1: And we saw that first steel in the second game.
- 18:26Speaker 1: So I do think he's a better bet to stick
- 18:29Speaker 1: to be a productive hitter in the major league's and
- 18:32Speaker 1: he knows who he is like he is trying to
- 18:35Speaker 1: model his training his game. His training routines off like
- 18:39Speaker 1: a luritz arias he's not trying to put the ball
- 18:42Speaker 1: in the air. He knows he does his damage when
- 18:44Speaker 1: he's a low launch angle guy. When he's putting the
- 18:47Speaker 1: ball in the grounders are good for Chandler Simpson. So
- 18:51Speaker 1: I hope he's not Billy Hamilton. As far as the
- 18:54Speaker 1: hitting profile, I don't think he will be. I think
- 18:57Speaker 1: there's a legitimate chance he'll be an everyday player, but
- 19:00Speaker 1: it all comes down to the bat, and there's some
- 19:03Speaker 1: fear that pictures will knock it out of his hands.
- 19:05Speaker 1: But I do think he'll make enough contact. Even weak
- 19:07Speaker 1: contact is gonna be good enough for a guy with
- 19:10Speaker 1: just incredible You see those home to first times, they
- 19:12Speaker 1: are just incredible. So hopefully for the sport, for the Rays,
- 19:16Speaker 1: it works.
- 19:17Speaker 4: I mean, he already started almost a riot with Yankee
- 19:20Speaker 4: fans yesterday when he was gonna beat that ground ball out,
- 19:23Speaker 4: and I mean, holy cow, I mean that should have
- 19:25Speaker 4: been a hit. I don't know, but his speed you
- 19:27Speaker 4: saw right there, Goldsmith, as soon as he went to
- 19:28Speaker 4: the right, he was saying, Freedom wasn't beating him there.
- 19:31Speaker 4: That's why I mean, I'm glad someone else got a Mangham,
- 19:34Speaker 4: I think got a hit later on, but I'm happy
- 19:36Speaker 4: someone else got a hit because that poor of official score.
- 19:39Speaker 2: That should have been a hit from the get go.
- 19:40Speaker 4: And I know we're gonna talk about it later, but
- 19:41Speaker 4: come on, Trow, that's a hit.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:44Speaker 1: Yeah, Simpson makes the first basement move to his right
- 19:47Speaker 1: to field a ball. It's it's gonna be a hit.
- 19:50Speaker 1: You think Kevin Cash was saying that in the spring.
- 19:52Speaker 1: So I'm glad for the official scorer's sake that there
- 19:57Speaker 1: was another hit in that game. But that was a hit.
- 20:00Speaker 2: That was a hit exactly. Yeah.
- 20:02Speaker 3: There was a play in the miners where I think
- 20:03Speaker 3: it went to the first baseman and he was way
- 20:06Speaker 3: close to the bag and Simpson beat him.
- 20:08Speaker 2: I saw Johnny Damon do that in high school. He
- 20:09Speaker 2: really fast, dude, I saw, and he did like a
- 20:12Speaker 2: ground ball of the first basement like one stept was right.
- 20:14Speaker 5: He beat it, and I was.
- 20:15Speaker 4: Like, that's real speed right there. And I mean, Simpson
- 20:18Speaker 4: looks faster than anyone I've ever seen.
- 20:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope he makes it because it'd be awesome.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Oh he doesn't beat.
- 20:22Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I mean not that like Terrencecore and
- 20:24Speaker 4: those guys, you know, even Quintin Berry, they didn't have
- 20:27Speaker 4: nice careers. But I want to see this dude do
- 20:28Speaker 4: some stuff. Billy Hamil, you know, Billy Hamilton had a
- 20:32Speaker 4: nice career. Yeah, but I feel like this guy could
- 20:34Speaker 4: be maybe better.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Yeah, get on base and still first. That was the
- 20:37Speaker 2: biggest problem, right.
- 20:38Speaker 3: You just got to get on first and then it's
- 20:40Speaker 3: a double, so then then he's a doubles machine because
- 20:43Speaker 3: then you're still in second most of the time after
- 20:45Speaker 3: Chandler Simpson.
- 20:45Speaker 2: So, Travis, this was awesome. Thank you so much for
- 20:47Speaker 2: joining us. Always great to have you on again.
- 20:50Speaker 3: Courage everyone to give Travis a file and then check
- 20:52Speaker 3: out all the work he's doing for the Score and
- 20:53Speaker 3: everywhere else.
- 20:54Speaker 2: Appreciate you talksing it. Thanks fellows
- 21:00Speaker 4: Hip.