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Patriots Unfiltered 4/27: Day 1 NFL Draft Show · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be
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  Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show, presented by
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  Speaker 1: Aristocrat Gaming. Welcome to the NFL Draft with Evan Lazar. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: guys got hips that got oil all over him. Mike Deso.
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  Speaker 1: People are still chirping at me about my first draft show,
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  Speaker 1: about my inequacy, inadequacy and my contributions. It's like Paul Pillo,
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  Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, No, the guy on the draft, the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in the draft. If they didn't go to his breathday party,
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  Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, Why can't I think of his make Is
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  Speaker 1: that I don't know Wilson. Zach Wilson's a real guy.
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  Speaker 1: And Fred Kirsch, you know, if you go to forty Speed,
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  Speaker 1: that's different. But I'm talking about the shuttle scenes con.
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  Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty three Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show,
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  Speaker 1: the New England Patriots Like, presented by Aristocrat Gaming. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots on Filter, the twenty twenty three Draft special.
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  Speaker 1: We are live from the Patriots Draft party at Jiulette
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  Speaker 1: Stadium in the Putnam Club. I'm here with Tamara Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Say hello, Tamara, Hi, and Mike do So Hello everyone,
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  Speaker 1: and Paul Parrello. Fred he's actually talking this year with
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  Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, he might even participate. Evan Lazarre will
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  Speaker 1: be with us. He's doing some special stuff now because
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  Speaker 1: he's very important. Special stuff. Well, he's making TikTok. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's in with coach Melichick as we speak. I
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  Speaker 1: think so telling them what to do, going over every
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  Speaker 1: last eton. We call him TikTok. Evan now he's doing
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  Speaker 1: TikTok's TikTok. But we are going to be here until
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  Speaker 1: the end of the first round, so we are live
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  Speaker 1: on video. Obviously right now at eight thirty, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be going to just audio per NFL rules, but we're
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  Speaker 1: on video. There's a draft party going on in the
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  Speaker 1: same room that we're broadcasting from, and they're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: some special guests. As they have those guests. If we
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  Speaker 1: want to, we're gonna go and listen to what they
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  Speaker 1: have to say. But for the most part, we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about what the Patriots are gonna do in this draft,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously that involves what people do in front of them.
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  Speaker 1: The Patriots did at fourteen. If they stay at fourteen,
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  Speaker 1: they'll be picking around ninety ninety five. So we've got
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  Speaker 1: a ways to go. There's gonna be a lot of news.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna come fast. This is always a great show.
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  Speaker 1: So we're happy to have you. I'm excited they we're here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just great. This second year back at
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  Speaker 1: the party. So I know you guys have done the
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  Speaker 1: party for a long time, but just to be here
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  Speaker 1: amongst all these Patriots season ticket holders, we're gonna hear
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  Speaker 1: from what Bill Belichick's gonna talk on a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, Bill O'Brien, eight o'clock, little surprise, So cast
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  Speaker 1: the thousands here, Paul, It's it's exciting, yeah, And I
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  Speaker 1: think that one of the things that I'm excited about
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  Speaker 1: with this draft is the way that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the people are talking about it. Heading in. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of anonymous gms and decision makers talking about the
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  Speaker 1: unpredictability of this draft being a little bit different than
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  Speaker 1: most years. I think that probably adds up to some
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  Speaker 1: intrigue and more than likely a lot of trade. Right,
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  Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people are talking about
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  Speaker 1: everybody's looking to trade down. But when you have people
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  Speaker 1: trading down, someone's got to trade up. That's right, might
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  Speaker 1: as well be the Patriots. Takes two to tank. Let's
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  Speaker 1: let's get let's get some trades going out. Let's let's
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  Speaker 1: get the intrigue underway. Yeah, so let's talk about some
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  Speaker 1: of the early news that we're getting. Obviously, the big
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  Speaker 1: news of the day is Lamar Jackson is officially signed
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  Speaker 1: back with the Ravens. So good for him. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they got ob J And when that happened, I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us said, okay, you know he's coming back,
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  Speaker 1: and sure enough he did. The other news that came out,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's news, it's kind of silliness.
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  Speaker 1: But the whole trade mac Jones stuff that was squashed
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  Speaker 1: by Tom Curran earlier, I'm assuming that he's got a
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  Speaker 1: source inside the Patriots that are telling him that's all nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, you can put that to bed, the
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  Speaker 1: whole you know mac Jones stuff. Mac Jones will behind
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  Speaker 1: will be behind center in twenty twenty three for the
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  Speaker 1: new woman Patriots. Lamar Jackson won't and yeah and Lamarch yes,
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  Speaker 1: well I'm willing to guarantee the second part. I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: just willing to go all in on the first. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's to be seen. I mean, but yeah, that is
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  Speaker 1: the big news of the day. And I mean selfishly,
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  Speaker 1: it's nice to just get away from the speculation. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: knows how talent Lamar Jackson is, but I always felt
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  Speaker 1: like he was eventually going to end out back in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: I just I wonder if the lack of an agent
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  Speaker 1: is what kind of drew this whole process out. I
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  Speaker 1: don't seem like the draft gets here, it's like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: the deal for let's get going. That was my thought.
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  Speaker 1: Sparkly outfit. Can we do that? Yeah? I know, you
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  Speaker 1: might have to do a spin. Look looking fabulous. Ye
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  Speaker 1: I'm scared if I go out and do a spin
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  Speaker 1: on my fall and become and become the next TikTok. No,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want that, Yeah, but true. I want to
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  Speaker 1: go back to what Paul said earlier and how unpredictable
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  Speaker 1: this draft is. I think that in a in a way,
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  Speaker 1: this could be a good thing for the Patriots in
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  Speaker 1: this sense that they're always so unpredictable. Obviously, after a
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  Speaker 1: strange pick last year, with Cole Strange, You're wondering what
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  Speaker 1: are they going to do this year? When you look
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  Speaker 1: at this draft, I think this could be a draft
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  Speaker 1: where maybe they do something predictable while everyone else is
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  Speaker 1: really unpredictable. Well, and that's the thing, you know, Paul mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: you know how people want to move down people, then
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  Speaker 1: that means somebody has to move up. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: no secret that most of the draft experts believe that
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  Speaker 1: once you get out of the top ten, and that
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  Speaker 1: includes quarterbacks, you don't have a lot of high grades
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  Speaker 1: for the players in this first round. So people are
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  Speaker 1: gonna want to move down, and that might even include
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots at fourteen. You know, if four quarterbacks don't
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  Speaker 1: go ahead of them, then all the good players might
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  Speaker 1: be gone by the time you get to fourteen, and
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  Speaker 1: who's left may not be in their minds of fourth grade. Well,
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  Speaker 1: who do we have at the stage? Okay? We don't
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  Speaker 1: want that though a little bit. So our new record
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  Speaker 1: is five minutes before we got off the off the rails.
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  Speaker 1: But I agree with you, Freddie, you know, in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the quarters, because I do think more than likely
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  Speaker 1: those top four guys Stroud, Young, Richardson and Levis, Sorry, Levis,
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  Speaker 1: thank you are gonna be gone more than likely in
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  Speaker 1: the top ten, but top fourteen before the Patriots him.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good thing. To Tamarious point, that's a good
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  Speaker 1: thing for the Patriots because that increases the opportunity for
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots to get a player that they may think
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  Speaker 1: as is worthy of that first round. Right, But you
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  Speaker 1: don't think one of those four guys are gonna drop.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I think the Kentucky out of all of them,
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  Speaker 1: it would be the Kentucky quarterback, just because I think
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  Speaker 1: that it's hard to get past his turnovers. Right, I
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  Speaker 1: think that you know, he has the talent, he has
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  Speaker 1: like everything in the toolbox, but I think his decision
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  Speaker 1: making could be something where if you want a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: to start right now and be ready now, he's probably
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  Speaker 1: the least ready of the group. I mean, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of see Houston is like the most interesting pick at
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  Speaker 1: this point. Number two. I think everybody the least Rice
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  Speaker 1: Young is gonna go too, but you know it is
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  Speaker 1: Houston gonna go with a quarterback. It did all the
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  Speaker 1: kind of scuttle butt of the last week with CJ.
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  Speaker 1: Stroud and his test taking. I mean, it seems like
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  Speaker 1: people were kind of maybe trying to get him to
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  Speaker 1: follow a little bit perhaps, But you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's been the biggest debate here over the last few days.
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  Speaker 1: What direction is Houston gonna go with? Have't even heard
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  Speaker 1: talking today. They might stick with Davis Mills. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's why that the anonymous gems are saying how
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  Speaker 1: unpredictable it is, because usually there's a there's a hinge
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  Speaker 1: point of the first round every year. This is at
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  Speaker 1: number two, so that really impacts what everybody else is
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  Speaker 1: going to do, if you I think there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of talk about Houston not necessarily being sold on
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  Speaker 1: the second quarterback from the start, and now the stuff
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  Speaker 1: about the score, which I'm not really all overly concerned
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  Speaker 1: Willie season stuff, But I don't think Houston necessary was
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  Speaker 1: sold on CJ. Stroud to start with. So that to
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  Speaker 1: me means that that pick is for sale. You're looking
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  Speaker 1: to get down because they also pick twelve. So if
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  Speaker 1: you guys are right and one of the quarterbacks maybe
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  Speaker 1: slips a little bit, you can they can always get
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback at twelve if they want to, if that happens,
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  Speaker 1: But I think not the number two pick I think
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  Speaker 1: is open forbid, And the question is there's someone like
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  Speaker 1: I think we saw a report for Pro Football Talk
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  Speaker 1: today about Tennessee wanting to go from eleven to two
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  Speaker 1: and grab a quarterback. You would think if you're making
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  Speaker 1: that kind of a move, right, it's got to be
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  Speaker 1: for Stroud, who would have more, you know, info on
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  Speaker 1: an Ohio State quarterback than Mike Rabel. Yeah, right, so
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  Speaker 1: that would make sense if you connect the dots. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so I think it's three teams in the
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  Speaker 1: first round have two picks, the Eagles, the Texans, and
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  Speaker 1: one other. I think, so is it Seattle? I think
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  Speaker 1: you're right. I think it's Seattle. So to me, that's
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  Speaker 1: only there was a way we could look. That's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Seattle five and twenty. Yeah, those are three
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  Speaker 1: teams that have the ammunition that can go up that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so that could make for a very exciting
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  Speaker 1: first round, just the fact that and then you have
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  Speaker 1: one less pick because the Dolphins lost their pick for
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  Speaker 1: tampering with Tom Brady, so they lost the pick there.
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  Speaker 1: So there's actually only thirty one picks in the first round.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody picks that up. It's just thirty one pick, so
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  Speaker 1: there could be a lot of movement in the in
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  Speaker 1: the first round. I just wonder though the Patriots gonna
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  Speaker 1: get stuck at fourteen if so many teams want to
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  Speaker 1: trade down. I mean, not everybody's gonna be able to
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  Speaker 1: trade down. And I mean, I think it's worth a
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  Speaker 1: debate of trade up. That's what I was just gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there is there a point, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that this goes to the bigger point of this draft
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  Speaker 1: for the Patriots, which I think they need talent. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about it on Patriots Unfiltered the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks. It doesn't really matter so much as what
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  Speaker 1: position it is. As Evans said on one of the
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  Speaker 1: shows this week, they need guys that can move the
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  Speaker 1: needle and make big plays critical positions. We know they're
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  Speaker 1: all needs offensive tackle, cornerback, wide receiver. We throw front
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  Speaker 1: seven in there just because there's some uncertainty, but they
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  Speaker 1: need a premium players and that in those positions. And
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  Speaker 1: that's I think that's what's going to determine whether or
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  Speaker 1: not this draft is successful. You probably won't know it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, at the end of this weekend, but a
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  Speaker 1: couple of you know, years down the line, did you
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  Speaker 1: come away with guys who were going to really start
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  Speaker 1: to change the dynamic here. That's it's just a critical,
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  Speaker 1: critical weekend for this franchise. Green mic I think that
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  Speaker 1: this could be an opportunity. With eleven picks, you could
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  Speaker 1: walk away with some guys who can have the chance
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  Speaker 1: to make a difference right now, like Marcus Jones. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: he was a later pick, but you can get a
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  Speaker 1: premium pick in the first and second round that's able
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  Speaker 1: to come in make a difference right now versus having
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  Speaker 1: to spend the whole year grooming them. Of course, they're
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  Speaker 1: all going to need a little bit of work, but
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  Speaker 1: to get a guy like Paris Johnson like right now
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  Speaker 1: that's able to come in and play right away would
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  Speaker 1: be huge for this Patriots team. Yeah, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: the tackle position is. It's definitely one to consider, and
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  Speaker 1: everybody wants to know what they're gonna do with fourteen
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  Speaker 1: and you just you look at the history of the
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  Speaker 1: positions that they've taken in the first round. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're clearly okay with taking offensive lineman, defensive front seven guys.
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  Speaker 1: I mean those have made up the great majority of
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  Speaker 1: the picks over the last what is it, twenty two years,
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  Speaker 1: so it's hard to ignore the tackle position, and certainly
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  Speaker 1: they added Paul. You've liked their depth that they kind
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  Speaker 1: of added with a couple of veterans Calvin Anderson, they
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  Speaker 1: get some depth, but it's not enough. I like at
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  Speaker 1: least the fact that, like last year when they lost
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  Speaker 1: the two guards, right, they had to find a guard
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  Speaker 1: to play. I think they want to tackle. But if
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  Speaker 1: Scronsky's not there and Paris Johnson's not there or whoever
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  Speaker 1: they deem the best, they don't have to say, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I know that's not the one we wanted, but this
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  Speaker 1: is the fourth best tackle we could take. Darnell right
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  Speaker 1: and who I think is going to be a good player.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm just saying they don't have to do
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  Speaker 1: that if they don't deem him worthy, because I do
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  Speaker 1: think they can plug in Riley Reef or Calvin Anderson
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  Speaker 1: and probably be better off than they were with Connor mcderboy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to finish the season last year, so that's
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  Speaker 1: a better a better spot to be in. I like
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  Speaker 1: the idea of figuring out what Fred's talked about right
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  Speaker 1: off the top, if you get the quarterbacks. So that's four. Right,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a couple of cornerbacks. So if they're
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  Speaker 1: not in the market to trade op I think Witherspoon
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  Speaker 1: in Gonzales, Right, we'll go. So that's six. They'll be
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  Speaker 1: you know, I might think somewhere along the line, Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Carter is going to go somewhere. That's seven. So now
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about Tyree Wilson, does he go, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Miles Murphy, does he go someone? Now you might be
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  Speaker 1: able to get because I think edge is a bigger
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  Speaker 1: need than a lot of other people are talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's not as big as corner. It's not
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  Speaker 1: as big as tackle. But if there's a run on
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  Speaker 1: tackles and there's three or four tackles that are taken,
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  Speaker 1: you might be able to get like the second best
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  Speaker 1: edge guy. So I was saying Will Anderson's the best. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: Will Anderson, I forgot about Will Anderson. Will Anderson and
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  Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson to me are the two best edge guys.
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  Speaker 1: Then I think it's open to Chiles Murphy, Lucas van Nest, Right,
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of people have Lucas van Nest Now
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  Speaker 1: Evan is not a huge fan of Van Nest, so
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  Speaker 1: maybe they don't like him as much as as others do.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so let's go. Sorry, let's go to the stage.
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  Speaker 1: We got Bill Belichick up on the stage right now,
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  Speaker 1: let's go to the stage. Hey, good evening. How are
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  Speaker 1: we doing tonight? Right row. It's always um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's always an exciting uh night, and you know, this
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  Speaker 1: weekend great opportunity to build our team. Last year we
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  Speaker 1: had um, fourteen rookies on our roster, ten draft choices
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  Speaker 1: and four players that weren't drafted. Um, so it'd be
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  Speaker 1: exciting to see what this year brings and also how
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  Speaker 1: those players develop, you know, as they become you know,
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  Speaker 1: cornerstones of the of the franchise. So, um, have a
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  Speaker 1: great night tonight. Um. Well, we'll be hearing it downstairs.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get the reactions down there. And yeah, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: you know, excited to get going here. And then it
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  Speaker 1: won't be long before we get out on the field.
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  Speaker 1: We start getting on the field next week with our players,
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  Speaker 1: and then in the middle of May get the OTAs
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  Speaker 1: and so football seasons right around the corner. It's great
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  Speaker 1: nights to kick it off. So thanks for your support,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate everyone being here, and have a great night. Thank you. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well that was shorter than I thought. I thought the'd
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  Speaker 1: be some questions, but I guess not. I think Maxo
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  Speaker 1: is going a little under the weather. Yeah, it does
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  Speaker 1: sound like he has a cold. Now, if this was
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  Speaker 1: during the season, Fred, you'd be saying, I hope someone's
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  Speaker 1: taking care of Bill. Yeah, but you know he does
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  Speaker 1: look good though. You know, how old does he know?
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  Speaker 1: Seventy two, April seventy one. He looks good. He would
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  Speaker 1: just turned seventy one, same day as you, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, April sixty all the greats. Yeah, same day,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady. You know, it's a very special day in
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  Speaker 1: Patriots history. I would use that more if I were.
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  Speaker 1: You really gonna work it. In the day I discovered
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  Speaker 1: that I shared a birthday with Bill. That was those
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  Speaker 1: pretty special day. Decided to obsess over zotis pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be his fun fact. You know when you
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  Speaker 1: meet someone and you're doing icebreakers and you're like, tell
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  Speaker 1: me a fun fact. My birthday is to say this,
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  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Yeah, Well, as we talk about birthdays, I
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  Speaker 1: talk about this. I was thinking about it when we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about trading up, trading back with the Packers,
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  Speaker 1: swapping with the Jets with that Aaron Rodgers trade. It's
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  Speaker 1: so interesting to me because all three teams need similar things,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: and I think that's something that, you know, could be
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: interesting to see where the where the Packers pick. Are
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: they gonna go with the wide receiver for the first
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: time since two thousand and two, or are they gonna
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: go with the tackle because you know, they need help
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: for their quarterback Jordan Love, as well as the Patriots
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: needing more help for Mac Jones. I just like not
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: having the Jets ahead of me, and I know, like
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know about and maybe the Packers have the
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: same you know they're going to take a lineman two
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but just not having a Jets team select
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: somebody right before the Patriots two, so you just it
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: always feels like they're going to take one of our guys.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: All right on the stage right now is Bob Socy
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: with Cole Strange and David Angels. Let's peek into what
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: they're talking about. From the time I was about six,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I've been playing football so the entire time growing up,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to do. And getting that phone
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: call was just that, David, what was this guy like
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: when he arrived? Because it seemed like from day one,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: you have the right perspective and from the outside, the
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: right work ethic to earn your place on the Patriots roster. David,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: you're the guy. Welcome to him as the leader of
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: that offensive line group. Yeah, you know, I think I
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: can't say enough good things about how Cole came in
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and handled everything. I like to give Cole a hard
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: time self. Admittedly, our draft stories are a lot different,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: and I like to remind him that. And you know,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: but I can't say no. I feel about how he
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: came in and worked, contributed, helped us out a lot
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: last year, and um, you know, he was a great
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: addition to our room. But you know, I like to
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: jab at him a little bit here there. Well, is
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: you allude to you didn't get a call during the draft,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you had to wait to sign as an undrafted free agent.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And I think what we have here this evening as
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: an example of somebody who came in, seized his opportunity
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: twenty and fifteen, starts ten games as a rookie, becomes
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a starter first ten though, right first I got benched
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: on Monday Night football against the Bells, all right, first dead,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: and then becomes of course perennial starter, team leader, super
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Bowl champion. This league is a meritocracy. When it comes
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: to you get the opportunity, you have a chance to
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: seize it. What was the key for you, as an
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: undrafted player to do that? Yeah? I think you know
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Cole didn't have a choice. He was coming to the Patriots,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: you know, and and for me it was a little
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: bit different. I had the choice, um, when you're a
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: free agent to go different places, and UM, yeah, I
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: chose to come here because I knew how much this organization.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: If you can contribute, they're going to keep you around
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and you can find ways to contribute, and if you can't,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get rid of you. And that's just how
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: it is. And you know, so I would just you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: went off of gut feeling. I wanted to learn about football,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: and you know, that's kind of how I ended up
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: here and how still here, I guess right now. But
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you guys are here right now, you've been here for
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I guess it's bill mentioned
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to be on the field before too long. What's it
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: been like? Give us an idea. What's the mindset of
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: this group right now? I feel like the mindset is
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: just kind of working to do what we can to improve.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: You know, I would say so, wouldn't you. Yeah, you know,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I think this is Cole's really first NFL offseason, you know,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: because the rookies have a very different schedule and different things,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, so it's first time, he's really been
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: able to be in the program for all all the time.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: And I think right now the biggest point is, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: just taking little steps day by day. Right, we got
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: new offensive coaches, new teammates. We're about to have a
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: bunch more new teammates come in here in the next
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: few weeks, and so it's jelling with each other, learning
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the new systems. Things we did better, we can do
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: better from last year. Things we did good, how to
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: improve them. And it's little steps day by day, right,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: little steps each day, little different days of emphasis, you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: until we get into OTAs the passing camp, you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and then once training camp starts, you know, that's when
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: you're playing real football. Pads are on and a lot
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: more things like that. So just trying to make little steps,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: whether it's the weight room, conditioning, you know, learning the
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: new offensive system, learning new teammates, things like that. Well,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: speaking of that offensive system, Bill O'Brien is returned to
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the Patriots as the offensive coordinator. Adrian Clem, once a
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: first round pick of the Patriots, now the aligne coach.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Can you give us your impressions of those two guys
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: as much as you can. Yeah, you know, I think
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I think we're all super excited to learn from them,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: see how they see the game. Right. Obviously, Clems you
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: know been at Pittsburgh, you know, college level a bunch. Uh.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: You know Obi has been you know the Texans unfortunately
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Alabama for a little bit pen Stay, so you know,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: he's got a lot of different experience too. And I
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: think as a player, seeing how they see the things,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you know, there's all we're all trying to solve problems.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: How there you got problems we can solve? You know,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: there's their solutions to doing. It's funny though, how like
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: David Andrews, like Cole really didn't want to answer the question,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: so as the captain, he steps in and it helps
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: his team. That was my favorite moments What are we
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: getting ready to go on? Wouldn't you say? What do
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: you say? It was basically like, how can you answer
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: this to me? Right? And I thought Andrews, like, we
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: cold never had an off season. This is the first
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: off season, right, it is different. Uh, Let's let's get
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: some phone calls in eight five five, pats five hundred,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: it's always the number here at Patients Unfiltered. While we're waiting,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: we'll uh, talk to let's see Craig in Pennsylvania. What's up, Craig, Hey,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: how you doing? And good m first time caller. Been
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: listening to you guys and so four. Um, I've been
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: looking out the different mock drafts and I've been intrigued
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: by why Robinson was picked to us. Yeah, and I
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: started looking at all the first round picks the Belichick's made,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and I noticed, after you know, we had an offense line,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: we had a running back twice, we had Holly and
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: then with Michelle, and I was wondering, if you guys
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: think there's some kind of little toods that Bejean Robinson.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: So I would say, I mean it came out a
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: few weeks ago that I think I forget exactly who
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: was the first to put Bijean Robins Craig Patriots. Uh,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean I think for obvious reasons, we
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: were all kind of like, I mean, just a running
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: back again, you have so many needs and how much
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: impact can a running back have? Now you say all
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: that Bejean Robinson is an awesome player and arguably maybe
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the best player in this draft. So if you look
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: at it from what I said earlier, when I think
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the team really needs to play makers. Then from that angle,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I could say, all right, well I could at least
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: understand that part of it. But it's just it's so
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: hard with so many needs to add a running back.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: When you have Ramandri Stevenson, you know, how much of
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: an impact is this guy gonna have even if he's,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you know, the greatest running back. And that's that's where
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I'm with Mike. It's like, in one hand, I'm like,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that's not really a need, why would you do that?
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: But the other hand, I'm like, Okay, this could take
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: some pressure off of Mac Jones. To have a guy
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: who was averaging ten yards to carry the way he
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: was nineteen hundred scrimmage yards. It's just he's not gonna
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: but yes, he's not going to come in and do
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: what he was doing in Texas in a league where
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: there's no defense in the Big twelve. I get that
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: there's no defense in the Big twelve, but I think
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: that with Romandra Stevenson and him to have a strong
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: running game, that would take some pressure off of Mac Jones. Listen,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I love my running backs, but fill in the blank.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: There's one thing I'm pretty sure the Patriots aren't going
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: to do in the first round, and let's take a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, I haven't done it since Tony Michell.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna do it, you know. Yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't not for that reason. You don't like running back?
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: No, No No, I like running No. No No, I'm saying I
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say they don't take running backs. They've done it
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: twice like in the last ten years. I just think
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: what Mike said is, I don't want to cut you off,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: but let's go to mac grow maybe he can give
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: us a nugget. We've seeing the lighthouse getting bigger and bigger. Um.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: We've been doing a lot of a lot of building
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: around here too. UM, trying to get prepared here for tonight. Um.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: We're actually working on next year's draft right now. So
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: um the process never ends, uh, depending on you know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: everybody's role here within the organization. So UM. You know,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: a lot of hard work has been put into into
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the night, um and a tomorrow and Saturday and going forward. Um,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: so trying to find the best players possible here to
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: fit within the culture and uh, you know, hopefully you
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: guys have a have a lot to cheer about here
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: come the fall. Oh that's okay, all right, So these
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: these are more like statements tonight. Yeah, matc grow looks
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: like he's running for class president in high school. He
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: really did look about me. He really did look at Ilad.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: You look, mama, You look mom. If mac row is
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: running for class president, what am I running for president? Say? Yeah,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: so no, they're not like in the past. They sit
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: stuff some Q and a S. Yeah, like I remember
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: last year, wasn't met didn't mac ros talk about you know, um,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: it's an older draft because of COVID. You know, he
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: gave us something like information. Yeah, and we got what we
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: we got a little bit of that last week too
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: with with his you know, pre pre draft press conference
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: as well. But uh, I mean, I assume these guys
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: are locked in, they're ready to get downstairs and you know,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: start rolling these things off like we all are. It's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: just it's so you get to this point, after what
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: three four months of I know, speculating, I expect, like
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Ques question the fans. Yeah, all right, am I gonna
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: question that. I'll like, let's go back to the phones.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: We'll go to H Mike and Puerto Rico. What's up Mike,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: good afternoon and a happy Draft day everybody. Evening here
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: seven fifty four et oh fa, I'm California Times. So UM,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I just have to say tomorrow you look terrific. Thank you.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what the record is for uh
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: female correspondence getting poached off of the pfuh, but I
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna set the record. Yeah. Thanks, I mean
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: we've got a good track record, right, I mean, no pressure.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: So for my birthday, which is actually today, Draft Day, UM,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I only want at least three of the following either Gonzalez,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: um solid left tackle, dtr and um, what's the what
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: was it? Schooner maker schoon maker, Yeah, schomer tight end
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: from Michigan yep. And then whatever that top the top
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: punter is yeah or Adam Course from Rutgers. I can't
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: believe I know these off the top? Who am I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: asking too much? Thanks? Mike? Can we not take a
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: punch like sign one? You know what, Paul, I think
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: they have to because that's gonna come Saturday sometime. We'll
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: be on the air, We'll all be a little bleary eyed,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: and you know, I think it'll come right at the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: right time to put us over the edge because so
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: real quick, there is a very hold on Mike. Mike
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and Southy hold on very minor thing. It doesn't involve
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, but it is news. The Eagles and Cardinals
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: settled a tampering investigation today involving the hiring of the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: former Eagle defensive coordinator, Jonathan Gannon, who's now the head coach.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: So the Eagles traded pick number ninety four in this
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: draft in a twenty four fifth round pick to Arizona
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: in exchange where number sixty six and this draft, which
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: gives the Eagles another top seventy pick. So that's that's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: four picks in the top seventy for the Super Bowl.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Talk about burying news. You make that happen, Like in
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the twenty minutes before the the you know, they released
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: a statement. I'm not going to read it, but I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: just interesting little nugget on on the draft. Yeah, um, okay,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: So Mike and Southie, go ahead, Mike and Southie, you there,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: good jobs. Yeah, I am okay, doing the hardy hardy
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: saving my job. What's up my Draft night? Best show
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: of the season for sure, can't wait. Uh wanted to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: call in. I wanted to ask the panel, if everybody
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: could just pick one guy, one player, you gotta sign
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: off on it. That's who the Patriots are taking at fourteen.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: That's why I want. That's what I want to hear.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I'm taking Peter Scaranzi. I'll hang up and listen, thank you. Okay,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump on Christian Gonzalez before anyone else. I'm
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: gonna take Christian Gonzalez too. And if if we're taking
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: guys that are not going to be available at fourteen,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: because I don't think Skarnsky is gonna be available either,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough because I think they're gonna be gone.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna change, just just to be different. I'm gonna say, uh, Witherspoon, Yeah,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: it is going to be Witherspoon. Yeah, he's not going
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to be available at fourteen. Mind going to be Witherspoon.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I think those two, those two are going to be gone.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: And I changed. I think that seems very sure, is
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: very sure of himself. But I gotta say I'm Witherspoon.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I I like Gonzalez better because I feel
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: like Gonzalez is an outside guy and just has like
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: can do it all, and he's athletic, and he's so smooth.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: That's exactly why I like Zale is better. I think
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: is really good. I'm just I'm saying it's going to
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: be with and I could see and if it was,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I could see why it would be because he's physical,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: like crazy. I mean, you put on his film and
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: he is all over the place actually guys coming down.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I mean it would, it would make sense. And I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: think he's a guy that I kind of was like
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: back and forth on just because of that reason. I'm like,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you got enough slock corners. You need pure guys that
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: can play outside and be able to, you know, step
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: in and go up against the Stefon Digs of the world.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I think that's what this defense is missing, that big
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: matchup to make a picure. I am going to start
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: off first by giving Evans pick because he's not here.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Of course, we know he wants to stay Flowers and
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: he would be completely google guy google eyes over that.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: We know that, and I can't wait to set up
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: my camera for that so we can see his reaction
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: if it happens right now. Yeah, for me, I personally
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: would pick Jackson Smith and Jigbo. Okay, if he's available
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: at fourteen, I would love that. I feel like he
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: would make any quarterback um just ten times better. Obviously,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: at least I think will be available. I think be available. Yeah,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I think he'll be available. And I think, um, I know,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers, he's proven that. You know, his size isn't spectacular,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and obviously Jackson Smith and Jigbe is bigger. But I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: think if we don't pick Zay, if we pick him,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I think he could take our offense to the next level.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the stage right now, because speaking of Evan,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: he's up there with Mike Reese probably Bob. So let's
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: go to the stage. Got some guys in Buffalo and
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Miami that maybe need to have one of those number
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: one corners to shut those guys down. So I think
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that's somebody that the Patriots could look at tonight, like
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: a Deonte Banks from Maryland as a player that I've
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: really I liked in this process. Maybe a Christian Gonzalez
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: if he's still on the board there at fourteen, Mike,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: how about you? So I was just sitting here thinking, Bob,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: that we had the club full here at a great
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: draft party. So give yourself a round of applause for
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: being here, and I was thinking about what it means
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: to grow up in this region, and it struck me
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: as I was standing over on the side. Thirty years
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: ago the Patriots had the first pick and it was
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Drew Bledsoe or Rick Meyer, Right, do I have that right?
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety three, and I think about how far
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: this has come over thirty years from that time. I
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: love the draft. I love the energy of the draft.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I love that you're all here tonight to talk about
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the draft. So I just want to, like, want to
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: start with that. I love your energy too, So well,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: we got we gotta be ready to go for when
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: they trade down, Bob. You know it's gonna be a
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: long night. So I'm just kidding the draft, this draft.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: The one thing I would say that I learned about
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: this draft is the top end talent in this draft
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: isn't considered as deep, so it drops off pretty quick.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of like Evans said, there's like
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: good corners, good tight ends, but are there like elite corners,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: tight ends, elite players not as many. So in this
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: type of draft, I always look at it bottom like
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: do they go up to get like the few elite players,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: like maybe a little trade up or do they maybe
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: trade back, which we know Bill is more likely to
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: do well. You know, guys, the quarterbacks, when you talk
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: about setting at fourteen, there will likely be a handful
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: of quarterbacks who go You think about Young Stroud, maybe
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Levice names been rising of late. It seems you know
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: there's an intriguing physical prospect like Richardson. Is that going
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to affect those other positions that you're high on? Yeah? Absolutely.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I mean when you look at it that way, the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Patriots should get one of the top ten non positions
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and players in the draft or quarterback position in the
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: draft if they stick at fourteen. So maybe in theory,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you know, when I do all the million mock drafts
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that we do, you're starting to have somebody that falls
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: to you all of a sudden and you're like, well,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: maybe the Patriots could go up and get this player
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: just by going up one or two spots and land,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: like Mike was talking about one of these top defensive players,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I think, is really somebody that they would probably have
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: their eye on. My eye is always on the wide receivers.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you, Bob, so I look
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: at Jackson Smith and Jigboa from Ohio State, and that's
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a guy that if you're starting to creep down into
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: the early teens and all you have to do is
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: jump one or two spots to go up and get them,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I would definitely sign up for some JSN and Mike,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you have such a great vision long term, not just
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the picture for twenty twenty three. And you look at Evans.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Already talked about the tight end position, but you look
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: at a situation like the Patriots have at the edge spot.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Matthew Judon has had a terrific run, but after next
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: year they're gonna have to address that. Same with John's um,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that's Evan and the mic Reves. We'll get a lot
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: more Evan. We're gonna be here all night. Oh don't
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you worry. We are going to be here all night
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: until the end of the first round. But right now
• 33:13
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  Speaker 1: they stand in terms of the number picks they have
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  Speaker 1: and the number of spots that are open in terms
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  Speaker 1: this draft or future assets. So they have eleven pick
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  Speaker 1: in this draft. My thought was if they come out
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  Speaker 1: making eight or nine, that would probably be um, you
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  Speaker 1: know my my thought and if I had to project
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  Speaker 1: is the twenty twenty three Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show. All right,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: we're back here and Patriots Unfiltered Draft twenty twenty three
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: live from the Patriots Draft party in Jillette's Stadium in
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the Putnam Club. We were listening a little bit to
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Evan and Mike Reece. Um, we're taking phone calls. It's
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Mike Dousseau. It's called Perillo, Tomaraw Brown. Evan will be
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: back with us a little later after he gets done
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: with his uh uh yeah, his big important Hopefully he
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: finished this before the first rounds over because you know
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: it'll be too long, I would think so. I would
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: think so. I think Bill O'Brien's gonna be up there
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: pretty soon. But the way it's going, all they're doing
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: is saying hollo and laving, making out. They're making statements. Yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: it's like, good to see everyone. I'll be here all week.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: The Bill Brand's definitely his statement is going to be
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: everyone gets clean sleep. Yeah, that's going to be his
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: sid Nick Lighthouse keeps getting bigger and bigger as Skull
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: of the Night so far though. Um, we're still building too.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: We got emails coming into um, so let's see who's
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: who's saying what. Um. We'll go to Jeff who says, um,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: he's from Australia, Melbourne. To be exact, he says it's
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the first post Eric draft show. So I'm expecting Bill
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: to go full troll and trade up and create a
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: different kind of Harumph from the hills of North Providence.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I do want us to trade up to get Gonzales,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: who I think would move our secondary towards one of
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the best in the league. Would we need to trade
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: up to six with the Lions to ensure we get
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: him ahead of the Raiders. How high do you need
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: you think you would need to get up to ensure
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that you get Christian Gonzales six, seven and that. But
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: those two corners are scheduled to go between five and ten.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Witherspoon in Gonzalez, So if you want one of those guys, Yeah,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: But like the Raiders are a team, don't like it's
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Josh and Dave Ziegeler right, I mean, I look at Tennessee,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: even though um, John Robinson's gone, it's still my gravel.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: It's still a guy that you have some familiarity with Arizona,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: with with Monte Austin Ford now, and I would say
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the Raiders similar. They're they're personnel with people that you're
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: familiar with. Yeah, you know, so I wouldn't rule those
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: those kinds of situations out. I'm hoping that, um, hopefully
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: it can slide Gonzalez back, but hopefully someone's taking a
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: chance on Jalen Carter. I think that people who have
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: been doing their due diligence and obviously bringing him in
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: for a visit, even in the there are some off
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the field issues, but I have a feeling that maybe
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: he could be going through the Lions in their first pick. Yeah,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: oh yeah. I mean he's going somewhere in that area.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder too with the tackles, because it's you know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: it's each of them, the top three, they all kind
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: of have their own little issue. I mean, Scronsky is
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: tenured starter, played forever, but he's you know, a little
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: small and he doesn't quite have the link. Then the
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: other two guys, Johnson and Jones, are have all the
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: dimensions that you look for. They have the necessary playing temperant.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: They just haven't played a lot. So how do teams
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: feel about that? I just remember last year, Paul, when
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: it was such a scramble around the league for tackles.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots, like you mentioned earlier, went to
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: you know, get Connor McDermot off the Jets practice squad.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: With the tackle depth like that, the way it is,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I just wonder if that physician is gonna get pushed up.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: And then you're you're talking about guys like Anton Harrison.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: You know, even those guys may be going higher than then.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: People are thinking, all right, Bill O'Brien's coming to the stage.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Let's see what he has to say. Very casual like
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. Yeah, it's an exciting night. It's great to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: be back. It's great to be back. I was here
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: as a lot of you know, years ago, had a
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: great experience in this organization. I grew up here, grew
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: up about twenty minutes north of Boston. I grew up
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: a Patriot fan, and obviously working for the Patriots is
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a dream come true for me, and to be back
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: here is awesome. So it's great to be back. Thank you.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: A couple of things, you know, just right now relative
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: to what's going on in the building. We've had our
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: players in for the last two weeks and it's been awesome.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: We've had great attendance. It's a voluntary program up until
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: June basically, and so it's awesome to see all these
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: players showing up, putting the work in. They work in
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: the weight room, they do a lot of conditioning out
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: on the field, and then we get to work with
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: them in the meeting rooms and then starting next week,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: we get to work with them on the field. So
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that's been awesome. It's been a great group to work
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: with so far, and looking forward to building on the
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: next seven weeks as we head towards OTAs in Mini
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: camp in June. So it's been an exciting time relative
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: to the draft. The Draft. I know this is a
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: really exciting time for fans and for everybody in our organization.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of great players in the draft.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I spent the last two years in college football at
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: the University of Alabama, so I know a lot about
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: some of these players in the draft, specially at Alabama
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and in the Southeastern Conference. And there are a lot
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: of great players on both sides of the ball. And
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: we've put a lot of work, especially the scouts obviously
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Coach Belichick, have put in a ton of work to
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: this draft. As coaches, we do our part evaluating the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: different positions that we're in charge of. But it's just
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: been a good experience working with the scouts, working together,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: and now you know, we'll be able to see what
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: happened starting tonight and then obviously tomorrow the two rounds tomorrow,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: and then the rest of it on Saturday. So it's
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: an exciting time. Great to see everybody. Looking forward to
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: seeing you guys in the fall. Go Patriots. Hey, Billy,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: it's Bill O'Brien. He's got some head coach swag. Now,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if you guys noticed
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: a difference from him, totally noticed the head coach. If
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: you if you saw everybody so far, you would say, oh,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: that's the head coach. Yeah. Yeah. And Evan, you know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: whispered a very pertinent point when he talked about his
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: two years at Alabama, So I know a lot about
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: these guys. Well, the assistant coaches are made available while
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I was on vacation, and I didn't hear any of
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: those kinds of quotes about the college guys. And Evan,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: you pointed out, what did he say? He said something
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: along the lines of I'm gonna let Macro in the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: scouting department do their job and we'll do our part.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: But that's not what I'm which is, I'm not an
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: expert on the draft, I think was his exact quote.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Which is interesting because Grow mentioned in that also that
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: same day that he was going to lean on his
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: knowledge of the ANTEC. Specifically, when I talked to Grow
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: at the combine, he was pumped to have both Bill
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: O'Brien and Adrian Clem as resources to then go ahead
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: and really get their information about this draft, not just
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: who they coached at their respective schools, but who they
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: coached against. As well. And you look at this draft.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: You know, Alabama they obviously play so many of these guys,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: And if you're Bill O'Brien and Macrow, I can't imagine
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: that those conversations are probably like, Hey, Bill, you know
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: what was Nolan Smith? Like? You know what was it
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: like to block Nolan Smith when you guys went up
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: against Georgia? And you know what was it like when
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Emmanuel Forbes was out on the field at corner? Was
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: he somebody that you guys were locating and knowing where
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: he was at all times? So definitely a lot of
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: information that can come from those two guys. Hey, Gerard
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: mails up on the stage right now with Bob Solcy.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. This is about effort, Like how
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: does this guy really show up on film? Is he
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: running around? Is he playing like his hair is on fire?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: After that, really it comes down to fundamentals. Can this
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: guy tackle, can this guy cover? Can this guy throw?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is? That's kind of how we look at
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: him in Gerard, you know that from your own experience
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: as a player and as a coach, the guys come
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: in here, and you know they come in his first
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: round draft picks fourth round draft picks. Sometimes it's undrafted
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: free agents. Doesn't really matter, does it. It doesn't matter.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this, these guys are used to
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: it because in college. In college, right you come in,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: you could be a five star or one star, it
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. It all resets and this is a
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: what have you done for me lately? Type of business. Seriously,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: like last year is last year. This is entirely a
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: new year. The team will look different and so these
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: guys have a chance to play. What's been like so
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: far to work with this group? I know you haven't
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: been out on the field yet necessarily, but just under
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: underway with the offseason bitioning program. Your thoughts about these
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: guys coming back out of the look, Yeah, a lot
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: of these guys are running around. You could tell they
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: put a lot of work in the off season to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: get better, and it's it's gonna show up. I'm sure
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: when we get out there on the field with them
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: next week. What do you what do you enjoying the
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: most about this time of the year. I just enjoy
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: seeing the families. I enjoy seeing the young guys who
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: have dreamed for so long to be in the NFL.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Really get an opportunity to get drafted and really start
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: a new chapter in life. How about for you when
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: that chapter began for you? Looking back all these years, Yeah,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: it's nothing been back. I mean, that's one of the
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: best moments of my life, right is getting drafted here
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: to New England, and I've been here ever since. Great player,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: you enjoy coaching as much you can get a competitive
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: thrill from that, Yeah, I love it. I honestly, I
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: love I love coaching. I love all Right, that's Bob
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: so Soocie and Gerard Mayo. They're not really talking about
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: the draft right now, so I figured we'd jump out
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: of that. So I think Gerard is catching Bob off
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: guard with some quicker answers than he was maybe anticipating. Right,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't have those questions, right, you have to,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you know, I think he's winning the coaches fashion show
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: for me at least. The shack Uh Dan of Virginia
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: and Michigan wants to know which Italian restaurant we stole
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the tables from. Yah, you're not the first one. It's barbecue. Yeah,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: it's it supposed to be a barbecue theme. So this
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: is supposed to be like barbecue picked the tables. I
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: guess we have Chinese food us. So I don't know
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: what's going on. Bob and Wilmington, North Carolina. Everything has
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: lined up for Bill to select a linebacker with our
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: first selection, which linebacker would keep Evan from jumping off
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: a bridge? And would we have to move up to
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: get one like an like an outside like edge guy? Yeah?
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: What linebacker? Because I could. I could do that because
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I'll jump right off this this leg. There's someone he
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: called in last year that said if we picked X,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: he was gonna jump on Yeah. The guy from Yeah
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: yeah right John j right yeah, all right yeah. Now
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: he's still alive, still regularly calls in. He made it
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: through that season too, much like I resigned after Richard Seymour. Puh.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: So Carolina is on the clock and the clock is ticking,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: it's actually ticking. It's start. So there's about a little
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: over five five and a half minutes left, uh for
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: them to make their first pick, and we all think
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: it's going to be the quarterback, right yeah yeah, Rice Young, Yeah,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I would say I would be really surprised if it's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: not Price super athletic. I mean, you just you wonder
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: if Carolina. You're gonna you know, reset the NFC South
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. I mean all those teams
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: are kind of you know, Brady left Atlanta. They're kind
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: of going about it their way. Um, it's an opportunity.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: It feels like, you know, if they can if they
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: can hit it with Bryce Young, whichever young quarterback in
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: that division plays the best, probably we will win it
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: because you're gonna have like Desmond Ritter or you know,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Anthony maybe I should say maybe Baker Mayfield in Tampa. Yeah,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: you know, if it's not Kyle Trask, it'll be Baker Mayfield.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: So hope. It's a bad division, so someone's gonna end
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: winning it by playing reasonably well. And if it's Bryce
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Young and Carolina, I would think he'd play maybe not
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: right away, but really close to right away if if
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: not weak one. Yeah, I just wonder what Carolina does
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: from here for four Bryce Young because they traded DJ
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Moore in the trade to get the number one pick,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: so it doesn't really have a number one wide receiver there.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: And one thing that we have learned here with Mac
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: is that that Alabama offense that you throw to a
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: lot of really good playmakers in Alabama. Now, maybe not
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: so much this past season, but two years ago when
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: he's got Metchie Jamison Williams. Like, now you go to
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Carolina and the cupboards is Robbie Anderson still there is not,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: So I wonder where Carolina goes from here, because that's
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the that's the in trend right now is to get
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: draft the quarterback and then pair him with the receiver
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: that he could throw to that maybe ideally he has
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: a connection with. But nobody in this draft fits that bill.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: So where do they kind of go? I just headed
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: over to our lats for their their outstanding depth charged
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: our our Terris Marshall dj ark Yeah, I liked him, guy, Like, yeah,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: they just showed the Carolina war room. There's more people
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: in it than the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, there's fifty people.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: They're breaking the record, man, I guess you know they're
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: picking one overall, so they're kind of making it a celebration.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people in their war a
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: lot of people. I think that's ridiculous. I don't care
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: for that at all, as long as like I always
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: like the gree Boys one where you have like Jerry's
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: great grandson who's always in like one of those boys
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: suits with a club on ties. You know, he's already
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: worth like sling. But the only thing about that, like
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: if like the Crafts were in there, if Robert and
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Craft were in there and in like Jonathan's kids are, like,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't bother me as much. But to Fred's point,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: like these enormous draft rooms, like did the draft sneak up?
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Like why are there like literally fifty people in your
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: draft room? Like everybody who's ever said the word scout
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: in Carolina is in the draft room. Like why do
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: you need all this would be in the draft room
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: in Carolina? Let's say it was like Peggy from HR
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and you know, like everybody in the organizations, And that
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like very efficient way to do it. Well,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of spectators, I imagine pick is in According
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to UHL network, I think Tamara your voice, it's it's
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: just bringing me right back to like you're you wanting
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson last year and like each bit going by
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: and Tamara was just like banging the Jermaine Johnson And
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the crazy part was he was available into what traded
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: back up? Yeah, yeah, So a lot of other players
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: that ended up. You know, the draft relay starts now
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: at number two, though, like nobody knows what the Texans
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: are actually gonna do, right, Nikossario has pulled a classic
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: bill move right right from it from holds a lot
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: of it holds a lot of the cards right now,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: right the whole drafted table really is now. I guess
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: we're about to find out if the Patriots are trading
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: up for Will Levis Uh. I thought it was interesting though.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Today I was watching NFL Network and they had Scott
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Piolion and he was talking a little bit about Cassio,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and I mean he was just very up front of
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: He's like, look, he's gone through a bunch of coaches now,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: like he's kind of has to hit it. Like, I mean,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: just Paoli was very honest about the kind of poison.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I made that point like earlier in the week, like
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: it's one thing to sit there and say I'm drafting
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: players that fit a specific system, but now he's working
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: on you know, is it the third coach of the
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: fourth third third? Because they had that one David David
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: And now, yeah, Tmica's not going all right, let's go
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: to the Kansas City to hear Roger goodall pick in
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, the Carolina Panthers select
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young, and there it is, well, Nick Saban, all right, Fred,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: congratulations everybody if they planned on matching, I'm officially one
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: in thirty in the mock draft. One. Okay, there you go,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: all right, got that right? You got that right. That's
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: the only one I'll get right, all right. So Bryce
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Young is the first overall pick in the twenty twenty
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: three draft. Good for him. So it was just so
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: to me, like everybody makes fun of me, and I
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: embrace it. But you know, I don't really watch college football.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I come to it, I mean, and with with new eyes.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: But it sounds stupid. But just my impression that was
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: just how athletic he was. I just I couldn't believe
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: what a smooth athlete he was. Reminded me in that
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: regard a little bit of Aaron Rodgers. But it just
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: seems to have great subtle pocket movement. Uh, you know,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: enough athleticism. It's just his size is the question. But
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: that hat looks terrible on him. Yeah, but you have
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: to put the hat on. Sorry about that. And here's
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the water. But this is this is what you need
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: If you hit the first overall pick and you got
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: a chance at that the best quarterback, this is where
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: the league is. You can't afford to pass on him.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: And that's why this next pick is going to be
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: so interesting to me. Is this a new thing with
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the suits with the pant leg that hangs out the
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: front of the suit? Oh yeah, I can't really see. Yeah,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: you just see what fred like a sash jacket. I
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: wanted to ask, you know, the younger folk, which is
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: pretty much everybody except for right on the panel, what
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: we think of these this new wave of production that
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: we're doing now with the draft, Like he clearly came,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: that was clearly all orchestrated. He was supposed to go
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: to that room, put the hat on, you know whatever,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: you know, you do that that social media you know station,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Then you go down this hall and what do we do? Right?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Am I just too old? I mean I just just
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: somebody get newspapers? Can I get a crossword? I'm all
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: we gonna say this once this entire night, but that's
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: a lot exactly. This drives me. The the tedious part
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: of the draft drives me nuts. Yeah, Like, can we
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: just pick. Well, it's like the Oscars, right, they added
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: so much stuff. Then it's like we just want to
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: get through it. We want another picks. But now now
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: that we're rolling, I feel like you're in it. Oh yeah,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: we're rolling. I do, I do feel I do wish
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: it went faster, like between picks, like I wish it
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: was such a long Yeah. But if they're trying to
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: stretch it out, they want to own the night. I
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: wish it was like streaming services like Grant Manchester UK,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: who's on holiday in Vietnam. So anyway, all I hope
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: is that after tonight we're not confused and complaining because
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Bill did another typical Bill move and drafted someone no
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: one's even had in their mock draft or on their
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: minds for that matter. No strange picks or the capital less,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: just a consensus pick, as many of you have said,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: will be fine with me. I think I gotta give
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: just some of the general Fansom credit because I think
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: people have generally been okay with discussion about the team.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe looking at a cornerback or looking at an offensive tackle,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: and I know that those positions aren't usually the sexiest
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: ones I would have thought coming into this offseason, everybody
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: was like, stay away from defensive, you don't need defense,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: go get offensive guys. And I think at least people
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: have been if they do take a tackle or a cornerback,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I think people will generally get it. To this point,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: those are needs for sure. I know everybody wants the
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: sexy picks. But Mike, it's funny you say that because
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I think everyone's like, like, bar so low right now.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: They're just like, I just want you to pick someone
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: someone who I just want you to pick someone. Yeah,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I just want you to pick someone that is in
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: the mock drafts that we don't have to google what
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: school that is, where that is. We want to pick
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: someone that we actually need. And I think everyone's bar
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: is pretty low. Yeah, right now, we've talked about it
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks. It's just that need
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: for that blue chip, top of the roster talent and
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: wherever you can get it. Yeah, you can't be picky
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: at this point. You know, whether it's a corner or
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: it's an edge rusher. I know a lot of people
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: that really don't understand the edge rusher need, Like why
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: would they take my jokes? Guys, I'm here for that,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I get it, and I you know, but at the
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: same time, I think that one of those guys, like
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: if they get another Judeon to put with jude On, Like, now,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have two guys that are
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: game records that opposing offensive coordinators and offensive lines need
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: to really spend their week on where they don't really
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: have that anywhere else on the team besides maybe Matthew Judon.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: So all right, I look at it, and I say,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: wherever you can find that level of talent, And you
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: look at the four quarterbacks should go in the first
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: fourteen picks. So you're really picking from ten of the
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: best players that are not quarterbacks in this draft. So
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: someone's going to fall into them at fourteen or should
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll go ahead, Trent I was gonna say
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: at Matt grows point when he talked about this in
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: his press conference, like, you are aware of contracts that
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: are expiring next season two, So it's not bad to
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: take guys on defense just because you are returning most
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: of your defense. You can go ahead and prepare for
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: what's to come next year. So the pick is in
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: for Houston, and it's now, what are we doing we
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: can we make I want you to make an executive decision.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Are we gonna are we just gonna talk about it
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: if you have if you know it, we'll talk Okay.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: So it's really interesting, yeah, CJ. Strout Yeah. Oh so
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: so much for the drop. Yeah, so much for the drop,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: So much for the scuttle butt. Yeah. So, you know,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the drop was supposed to be because he scored low
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: in that S two tests, that comprehension test, that kind
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: they got debunked by the owner of the company said
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: there were some contextual reasons and that wasn't the total score,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: and there were a lot of things that were going on.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: So he was kind of you know, debunking that. So
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Texans didn't buy it. They went with him regardless. I
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: would have been shocked if they passed on them. I mean,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I just like we said to Sarrio, you're up against it.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: You don't have a chance to get the second best
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: quarterback in a draft very often. If I don't know
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: how you could have let this guy pass. I mean,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: and I didn't see a ton of difference between the athletism.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: He hasn't Bryce Young, I mean, to my you know,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: untrained eye. They looked similar. You know, they're both very good.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: But I agree to split the hair, and I'll say
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: one thing, and and Evan will probably be able to
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: talk about this in more detail. Aside from the history
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: at the specific school of quarterbacks, Ohio State quarterbacks haven't
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: hit big, right. The only thing I would come to
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: with that is we're gonna get a pick here. Yeah,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: let's under the stage. What we'll go to the good
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: and the CJ. Stroud, you know, getting his his hugs
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: from his family. But I understand, you know, in Justin Fields,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I think still remains sort of a question mark because
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I think he had in many ways a really impressive
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: year last year. Obviously, he's gonna have to find a
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: way to win some games, and he's gonna have to
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: find a way to be a better passer. But the
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: rest of the Ohio State guys, the Dwayne Haskins of
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the world, they haven't panned out. What's the Alabama track
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: record at quarterback? And no one and no one seemed
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: to worry about Bryce Young being worthy of the number
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: one overall pick. And I'm not saying Stroud is better
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: than Young or whatever. I'm just saying nobody talked about
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Greg McElroy and AJ mccaron and yes, Mac Jones, you know,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: but everybody wants to talk about Dwayne Haskins in justin
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: fields and you can't take the Ohio State quarterbacks. Yeah,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I think it goes back to kind of what I've
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: been mentioning with Mac Jones. It's like up until now,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: when Georgia and LSU kind of have caught up to
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: an Alabama in the SEC, or I should say they're
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: back to where they used to be in the SEC.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's tough to great an Alabama quarterback because
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: they have been steamrolling everybody for years. No one's been
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: able to compete with them until now. No one's been
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: able to challenge them for an SEC championship until now.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: And so it's tough when you have five star wide receivers,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: great coaching, great offensive line, you have everything great, and
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: then you come to the NFL and it's nothing like that. Yeah,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: it's well, I think that that's a big problem for
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: the Ohio State guys too. I mean c J. Stroud's
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: out there throwing in Marvin Harrison Junior. It might be
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft next year, and
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: he doesn't face pressure a time, and when he does
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: face pressure, it's problematic for him. That's one of the
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: big knocks on him is that he doesn't great out
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: well against pressure. But I think he's the most polished
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: passer to come out of Ohio State out of all
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: the names that you mentioned with Askins, all those types
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: of guys. So he's definitely the most polished pasture. I
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: think he's probably the most accurate pastor in the draft.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Bright Song is a little bit more of that playmaker
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: gene outside the pocket or extending plays, but just in
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: terms of pinpoint accuracy, I think that C. J. Stroud's
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: got him need so he's a really good quarterback. And
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, a common
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: sense prevailed. So far good news for the Patriots, right, Yeah,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks went, yeah, so more chance that you're gonna get
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: one of the best players that's not a quarterback available
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: at fourth. It is good news. But there's no way
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: that those two guys weren't four. You know, you can
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: always hope, but it is no that's good that they went,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I know, but I'm looking for intrigue too, I'm looking
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: for It's good. It's good that those two drama. Yeah,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: what's gonna be the drama tonight? You know what? What
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: what will happen tonight? That will there's gonna be some traits. Yeah,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: someone's gonna make If everybody is in agreement that there
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: are not that many Blue Chippers, someone's gonna move up
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: to try to get a Blue chipper. Yeah. Right, So
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals are on the clock right now. We're gonna
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: say something. I was gonna say. They didn't make that
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: pick for CJ. Stroud. I feel like it could have
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: been the Colts that went with him at for well,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I just wonder who made that pick because everything that
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: we've heard from what I would assume is Nick Assario
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: and football department down there in Houston was Edge dresher
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Tyree Wilson, will Anderson. They didn't they they were okay
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: with passing on the quarterback. I don't think the owner
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: was okay with passing on the quarterback. And ultimately I
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: think this was cal McNair's pick. I think that he's
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: came in the room and said, look, we haven't had
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: a quarterback here since you know who. We're taking a quarterback.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: And that's it. To your point with that, Evan, when
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: it comes to the Patriots pick at fourteen, when does
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: the owner step in and say we're doing this well,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: if you believe some people, he stepped in a couple
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: of years ago when they were in the same exact
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: position and said mac Jones is the pick. All right,
• 59:47
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  Speaker 1: we talked at the beginning of the show about teams
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: with more than one pick in the first round, and
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: that could mean movement. We've already seen it. The Texans
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  Speaker 1: have moved up to the third pick now, so they
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: just picked Stroud with their second pick. Now they also
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: have the third pick. So, um, we're thinking maybe Will
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Anderson looks like Will Anderson. I think that is what
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: it is. So, I mean I would say Tavin's point,
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• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: some people best player in the draft defensively. It's a
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: nice app for them. Missus Houston, I mean this is
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: you're excited get a new quarterback in an elite Um,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: you know, difference maker in the front seven. They paid
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, what did I give up here? So
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: a second round pick that's thirty three, a first rounder
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: in twenty four, and a third rounder at twenty four.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Texans also get one oh five, So what's that? A
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: fourth round pick? One oh five? Yeah, I'm just shot
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: that the Cassario from the Belichick School Desperate Times called
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: the diaper measures. I love it. I love it. Don't
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: don't hang on to the pick. Okay, so it is
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Will Anderson, all right, you know, I mean I said
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: the thing about, you know, the NFC South, it's it's
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: kind of similar in the AFC South. You know. It's
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: again like I mean, you see an opportunity for Houston
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: to put two We talk about needing playmaker, elite, top
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: level kind of guys. That's what Houston might have just
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: added with these two guys in Houston could listen a lot.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: It's going to depend on CJ. Sprout. I mean, you know, thanks,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: thanks Captain obvious. But they've had a pretty active offseason.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: They have some pieces in place. Now. You know, I'm
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: not saying that they're you know, ready to contend for
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: the for the AFC Cell title or for you know,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: to jump in with the Kansas Cities and the Cincinnatis
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: and Buffaloes, but they they have some pieces in place.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: They get a new coach, I think they they're probably
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: going to be much improved defensively with a guy like
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Damiko Ryan's in charge. If c J. Stroud can give
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: them you know, a serviceable rookie year. You know, it's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: a team that could probably be competitive in that division.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: The only difference between the AFC cell and the NFC
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: cell to me is Lawrence. Yeah, that's what I was
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: going to say, that that takes Jacksonville a little bit
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: better than anybody. And that's the one team that doesn't
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: really have a question markt The Colts have no idea.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Who I give Houston so much? They all draft cycle long,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: people are talking about Will Levis Tyree Wilson, and they
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: just went shot. They said, you know what, these are
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: the two best players here in the draft. It was
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: so clear that Will Anderson was the top edge rusher
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: in this class, and everybody tried to make it in
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: our walk of life, right, the media tried to make
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: it in this competition between Will Anderson and Tyree Wilson,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: who are on two different planets of talent. I wondered
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: about that foot injury too. I was seeing a lot
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: of stuff about Tyree Wilson's foot. Yea, so can be verier.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah in the show, Tyree Wilson's got a chance to
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: be here. Jermaine Johnson and this draft at this point
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: because he's not going to Houston, and that was supposedly
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: the apple of their eye. I worry about, um, your
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: use of the word chuck. They went chuck. What does
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: that mean? They they picked the two guys that were
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: the consensus best guys, raded guys, okay, guys on the
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't try that. They didn't go out
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: and try to have you never I've never heard it.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: So in other words, if the favorite wins every game,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: it was chuck all the way. I never side of
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: the table. What does that mean? Like the way you
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: the way you chocked it up. Yeah, the way that
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: you you sharp beat it in. If I had to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: make a big board, right, not a mock draft, but
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: a big board of this draft, I would have had
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: it Bryce Young, CJ. Strad, will Anderson. And that's exactly
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: how we've started. So are you three for three? Oh no,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: definitely not. I don't think anybody is after that's trade. Well,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is real. Someone put out
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: a Daniel Jeremiah a final mock draft and he has
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young, Carolina, CJ. Stroud, will Anderson both to Houston. Okay,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: so he mocked the trade. He also to be fair,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: him and McShay I think changed their mock drafts like
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: an hour ago, and so they probably all it was
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: that if it was that recently traded and I ain't
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: not changed. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: multiple mocks either. The Coats are on the clock. Draft
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: word is that they're gonna take a quarterback, right, I
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: think they have to should be well loves. So this
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: is going to be a question of local media versus
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: the big Jays, right. The national guys have them all
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: over will Levis, but the local media thinks that they're
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: gonna take Anthony Richardson. So we'll see who they end
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: up going with. Okay, now, Fred, if you're looking for
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: your intrigue, that you're looking for what you would be
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: counter what the Patriots want, but you want the intrigue.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: No quarterback here would be intrigued. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: that's not happening. Yeah, because this is the most quarterback
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: needy team I think of the entire draft. Yeah, they've
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: been They simply don't have one, right, right, so they've
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: got to do something. So random question, do you think
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: that Hopkins can find a home tonight? There are some
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: murmurs of that with the Titans already and there it is.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Uh so the Cardinals as a result of their trade
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: with the Texans have moved to twelve now right, so right?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Do you know what's interesting is so at twelve they
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: they've been really rumored and connected to Paris Johnson, the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: tackle from Ohio State, who definitely fits a lot better
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: at twelve than he would have had three. So now,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: if you're the Patriots and you're looking tackle yourselves, I
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna have back to back teams now that
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: in the you know, the Cardinals and then you got
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Now that could be going tackle
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: tackle right there, so that that could definitely affect the Patriots.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Has this happened before a team with two picks from
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: the top five? Top three? Even? I mean? Is that? Oh? Yeah,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: I picked the Colts. Didn't the Colts go one two?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: One year? Wow? Oh yeah, I don't know. Um, let's
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: go to Willham and Philham. What's up William? Well, yeah,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: he's holding on for a long time. Are we not
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: going to do the pickets in audio? What do you mean? Well?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: We have we we're in that gray area. Yeah, so
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: they don't let's just do it they took Richardson here, right, Okay,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: that's I mean, I think Evan you said it this week.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: If I'm gonna go for the project, I'm gonna just
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: go for the better mod. What Bumpus misunderstood prospect in
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: this draft is Anthony Richardson. I think a lot of
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: people just think that he has no quarterback ability whatsoever
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: for some reason and is just strictly an athlete. This
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: is a guy that can make full field progressions, can
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: move in the pocket, can make throws at all platforms
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: down the field. He's just inconsistent. It does. It happens
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: in flashes, but it doesn't happen all game long for
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: four quarters. But he has some of the best pocket
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: movement of any of the quarterbacks in this class. You know,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: the little Muhammad Ali Bob and weave off the spot
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: and make the throws. Fantastic, fantastic, but just cerebral quarterback
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: that people misunderstand. Well, I mean you see the highlights
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: when you know he's evading pressure and it's amazing. But yeah,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's gonna have like that type of
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: room to do that in the pros. It's a good question, Yeah,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: for his size to have that those sudden, little explosive
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: anthony so and it makes me think about the Titans now.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: And I know there was some talk about what they
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: might do, maybe make a trade or something, but now
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: you're looking. You got two top five picks on the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: on two of the teams, and then you have Trevor
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Lawrence down there there. They're kind of at the quarterback
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: position at least looking up a little bit. I mean,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: we'll see how the rookie's of course work out, but yeah,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: just kind of change the dynamic of that whole division
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: pretty quick. And this is not something that Fred's probably
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: gonna sign off on. But I'm excited about the fact
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: that we get to see at the right, that's right here,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: my guests, We'll get to see him. Yeah, because they
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: really don't have any competition for him. I have to
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna play pretty quickly. My big concern for
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: him for me is just that he didn't play enough
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: in college. You know, I think he only played thirteen games. Um,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: you know, the production just isn't there, but the talent
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: is unquestionably there. I can't really imagine a guy with
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: much much more upside. See with you have a very
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: pain to look on your face. Mike, Oh no, I
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: was just at it thinking that's my thinking. Look, I
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: feel like Paul. A lot of people said that about
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Will two from Kentucky. They said that he has these
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: flashes where he's really great, but played he played four
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: years of college football. This year he really only played
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: one year. Um, now he's more talented than Will lettis.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: I mean this. I think Evin and I talked about this.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: He's he's he's got the highest he's got the highest upside. Yeah,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: he's he's to me, I think he's a better passer
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: than Cam was coming in, but he's built like Cam. Yep,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: I think he's more like Camp throw right there with
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: the passing ability of Josh Allen. So you just got
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: to be more consistent, you know, all the other stuff
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: that through that play. I remember watching that one live, like,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: you know, just all these types of things that the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: quarterback does. You know, I'm manipulation, pump fakes, moving around
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: the pocket. Like guys that aren't naturally good at playing
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: quarterback don't do those things, like they just aren't that head.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: If you watched the like I think it was the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: very first game of the year, against Utah and you
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: weren't in love with him, like he was so good
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: in that game. Yeah, he basically won that game by himself.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Seattle sits at five. They also sit at twenty. So
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: could that mean Seattle would be open to trading down
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: because they've also got that twenty of them. They got
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: some flexibility, you know. I mean it's I mean, now
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: it's it gets interesting. When does Levis go? When did
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: the tackles start to go? When does Witherspoon and Gonzalez go?
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: I would take Jalen Carter. I just think it's value.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's an absolute It's just it's funny because
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: I mean when he when the whole thing happened with him,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: it's just who's gonna get Who's gonna benefit from this?
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to, like, you know, sweep the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: legal issues under the rug or you know, I don't
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: know what exactly it's gonna mean for his future, but
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: somebody's gonna get a player that probably is the top
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: you know, three or four player here we are. I
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: mean at five, he's gonna probably go sometime sooner. Yeah,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: it's really interesting because the draft has gone chalk for
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: the most part, to this point. The question is that
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: with the Seahawks at five they have they're kind of
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: like the Patriots. You don't have to explain yourself some
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: people white white, you can just they're kind of like
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: meaning they're kind of like the Patriots. Though, is the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Seahawks their board is different than everybody else is board?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: So if they pulled the chock thing to do here
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: but me to take Jalen Carter. But with Seattle, you
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: just have no idea what their board looks like. I
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: wish I could understand. They don't take Jalen Carter Carter.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: The Lions are gonna take Jaln Carter for sure. Yeah,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: I think that makes sense with people. I wish I
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: could understand. Carol Guy, So he's been doing the Twitter threat.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: He does it every year. He drops hints over who
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: they're gonna take and with their first pick, right, I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: just have no idea what the class I think. I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna take Christian Gonzales. Be interesting, that'd be
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit different. Yeah, I just well, they got
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: what's his face from last year was a really good
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: t yeah wo yeah, Yeah, this is just a they're
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: very weird, like if they took Lucas van Nest right now,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. Like that's how bizarre their board
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: usually is. So we'll see, Like Jalen Carter is the
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: pick they should take. But I mean, do you think
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. I mean, he's kind of like the old
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: likable I mean it seems like if any coach could
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: maybe make an argument for it, he probably has enough. Well,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: I just think, like you know, you mentioned Detroit Vegas.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I just think those teams are too fragile right now
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: in terms of their front office and their head coach
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: being a little bit to Vegas with, you know, right, Like,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: if you take a chance on Jalen Carter and it
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: ends up going south on your organization and you're done,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: you're done. But Jalen Carter and Adan Hudginson on the field,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: there's questions about Jalen Carter's talent, But I just think
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: that you need to send him to a stable organization
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: that's going to be able to make sure that he's,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: you know, sticking to football. So just give him a babysit.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: It will be fun. Let's see if we can take
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: a call here. Uh, Colleen is in Houston, Texas. What's
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: up Colleen? Colleen? Oh you can't hear Colleen. I don't
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: know what's going on with these phones? Here? The job hardy.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: We'll try one more. Joaquin is in California. What's up, Joaquin?
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? Happy Draft day? Hey? How you doing?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling good, doing good. Uh. I'm pulling up all tonight.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: So I got plenty of pepsi right next to me
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: to watch the whole draft, So hope that keeps me up.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Pepsi and what but Meyer's rum or anything like that. No,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: it's just pepsi. Maybe a corona or something like that.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Later on Captain Morgan, Um okay. But first off, I
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: want to say shout out to Danny Virginia in Michigan.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: He has a nail on the head with those tables,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: because at one point Paul was kind of leading on
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: his chair. He looked like that impatient guy out an
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Italian restaurant waiting for his food to come in. Well,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I always look like I'm waiting for him for that,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: because I am. But a couple of questions. So first one,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: I saw a report about the commanders declining Chase Young's option.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: I was wondering if you guys think that the players
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: that the Patriots would consider going after, and like, if
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: not this year, maybe next year. And second question, what
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: are your final predictions on this draft? Like what are
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: the Patriots going to do in that first round? Okay,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: so would the Patriots be interested in Chase Young and
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: final predictions of the draft? Thanks? Why? Yes? I think
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: they should be. I mean, you know, if he comes up,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have Boche can be free agent next year. Jennings.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: I mean we talked about what does this team look
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: like if Matthew Judon goes down. It's a draft option
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: for them, for sure, it edged to get a guy
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: like that, But I mean, hell yeah, hell yeah, if
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: you could go get a player like that next year, yes,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: And I also want to say, like when a team
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: decides that they're going to decline the fifty year option,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: and sometimes it means that that that player is available.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think that means that necessarily in this case
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: A lot. I feel like, yeah, I think they're protecting themselves.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: They want him to play, but I do think he's
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: a big part of what they want to do. They
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: have the same coach Ron River though it's not like
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: they made a coaching change, so I don't think he's
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: available right now. So to get him, he's an unrestricted
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: free agent and you have to win a major bidding war.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I don't pick in Seattle. Yeah, who we do? So
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: I knew a cornerback. I knew they could take a cornerback.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: I told you, Yeah, that's I mean, wow, fifth overall.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I mean I think when at least when I first
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: got into the process, whatever it was January, he was
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: like second third down the board, and he's just shot
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: up to the point nowhere where he's the fifth overall pick.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Super aggressive, super physical, maybe too much. So he's a
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: dog a WG. Love you're spelling everything else that because
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: the dog has a very different connotation for an athlete.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: He is around the ball all the time, tackles like
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: a linebacker, plays the football better than anybody in this draft.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: But he's inconsistent at the line of scrimmage and press
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: man like. I don't think he's as good of a
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: lockdown cover guy as people maybe think at this point.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: But that's a guy that's always around the football, making play.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: I thought Evan and I had a good conversation at
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: some point in the process where I looked at you
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: and I was like, let's talk about Devin Witherspoon, because
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: I was kind of torn on him because on one hand,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this seems like such a Patriots guy. He's
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: so physical, he can play inside, he can play outside,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: and you know, when we were both kind of gravitating
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: towards the outside guys. But there were a lot of
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: things about him that just said, this guy seems like
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: a Patriots kind of guy to me, but he's not
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: gonna make I like him. I think of him more
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: as a slot guy than maybe some others do. But
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: I think he's a good player. Oh yeah, And I
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: the reason why I really had him on the radar,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: I know you guys did too, is because the Illinois
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: thing with bred Bielaman, you know, so I just felt
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: like he was a guy, and when Fred go excited
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: about it, I wanted to take it back because I
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: figured Fred was looking at our lads or something and whatever.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: But I think that he was in I think that's
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: a guy that if he started and we said between
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: five and ten for him, if he made it closer
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: to ten, I think the Patriots might have been interested
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: in moving down because I think there's that connection with
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: a guy that they trust and Brett Bielama that they
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: would have known that they could have used him. All right,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: the Lions, I think they just got quarterback Illinois. Are
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: the Lions in love with Jared Goff? Do they know?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: They weren't like with them? But it was it was
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: funny listening to Campbell to not take will Levis. I
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: don't think they'll take will Love No, Okay, I think
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: they got to take an offensive play. That's a wretched defense.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: At the owners meeting, Dan Campbell I was hanging around
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: his table. It was just he was very supportive of
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Now, of course that could be nothing, um,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: but I just imagine. I mean, look, they're starting to
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: stack some talent. I know, Jamis and Williams just got suspended.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: But you know with Adan Hutchinson got didn't they have
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: more than one player? Again, there were there were a few.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: He was he was the big one. I know, everyone
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: was so excited to, you know, see him come off
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: his injury and he got a little bit out his
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: feet wet last year. But uh, you know, some interesting
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: things going on there in Detroit with with you know
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: they had a couple of pieces. I'm on Rossing Brown's
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: a really good player. They had some pieces, so they're
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: gonna get They're gonna have another talented guy right now.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: I just wonder if it's gonna be Tyree Wilson and
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get those two kind of bookend edges and
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: really cause some problems. I'm just I'm thinking Jalen Carter
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: only because they brought him in and interviewed him and
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: said they felt a lot better about him and his
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: off the field issue. So I'm wondering if they're willing
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: to take the risk because they feel like they've gotten
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: a better feel for him. It's just such an interesting
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: thing with a guy like Dan Campbell, Like I just
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: his personality, which I kind of has grown on me,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Like I think he's authentic. We talked to what Danny
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: from the Lions. We're talking her for a while about
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: you know how much they love him there. But I
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: just that's a mix I wonder about, Like I like it,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: But are you sure that that's the guy to put
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: somebody who might have some issues and needs to be
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: on the straight and narrow under I'm not so sure.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: But they're gonna take a shot at him. I think
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: you gotta take Christian Gonzalez here, that secondary is wretching.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Gonzalez makes sense. I think Carter makes sense, and I
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: think Sarry Wilson makes sense. I think they need to
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: get an impact defensive player. Of sure, you know what
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: it is. It's hard for me now how I look
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: at the Patriots with needing playmaker, impact players at those
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: key positions. And when I look at the Lions, I say,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: all right, well, they got on rust Brown, they got
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, they got the edge rusher. Apparently they're happy
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: with the quarterback. I think you're right, like Gonzalez, you
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: plug him in. It's it's it's another big piece that
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: you need to lock down those top receivers around the league.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: So we're not the only ones that felt the way
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: we did about Witherspoon. By the way, Phil Perry, who's
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: the guy who does a lot of the same stuff
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: that you and you and Evan did, Mike, you know,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: like really looking at Patriots type fits. Best player in
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: the draft for the Patriots, in my opinion on field, need,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: culture fit would have been a guy worth trading up for. Yeah,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Phil just tweeted out a little while ago, and I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: think we all would sort of say, yeah, we saw
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: those same kind of traits. I'm not no, it just
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: was not totally disappointed that they didn't do. But I
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: do think I think if he was available, like eight
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: nine seven, you know, with the Raiders eight nine in
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: that area, slide up a handful of picks, probably not
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: a huge price to pay. Yeah, I just remember turning
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: I just pulled it up at his back in February.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Was when I watched his film first, and the first
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: tape I turned on, I was like trying to you
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: always try to find the guy on the film. It
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: didn't take me very long to find which one was
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: Devin Wood somebody else. Like I was just like, that's
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: the guy I'm supposed to be watching right there, right,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: And sure enough it was. And he just he is
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: absolutely shot out of plays with his hair on fire.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: I just I love his tape. But he's a little smaller.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: So I wonder if for the Patriots another five eleven corner, like,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: is that really that's what they need to add? I
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: think he really Yeah, I'm not you know, I know
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: they tried with Jonathan Jones on the outside last year,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Like you just sometimes you just have to get a
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: guy who has a little bit more lamp. Although I
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: do think he has. I mean, I don't know what
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: his arms. Just watching him like in that stage right
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: there when they were showing his highlight, his arm so
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: pretty long. I think he wouldn't be surprised that he
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: makes a lot of plays in the ball with good
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: ball skills because of that. Yeah, five eleven and a
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: half they list them at It's not like he's tiny,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: no no, but it's enough that I could have pictured
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: them saying he'll be okay, we'll get him on the outside,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: one of those guys that you know, maybe he's not
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: covering like a te Higgins, but he can cover guys
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: like z receivers that travel inside and outside. You know,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: in this division, he would have been on Stefan Digs
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: right Like. That's the type of guy that I think
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: he can cover, even if he's not in the slot
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: full time. I don't think he's a nickel. I think
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: he can play inside or outside. So well, we gotta
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: we gotta going now. And another trade Arizona moving back
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: up from twelve to six, trading with Detroit. I saw
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: something this week. I think they were saying that Kyler
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Murray has been vocal about his want of offensive linemen,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: So I just I wonder if that was the connection.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: It was Paris Johnson, but maybe if they feel good
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: about Jalen Carter's off, maybe they just felt like they
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: they had to go for the talent at this point
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: and draft Jalen Carter. So the Cardinals moving up to six,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Detroit moving back. Yeah, they get twelve and thirty four.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: So Detroit will now pick a couple before. So who's
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: um getting all this inth? So it just took everybody. Everybody, Yeah,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: schefter Pellisero rap, So like what do you like to
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: the Big jig? Jis interesting though, like the league really
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: wants to make this a TV event, yet they can't
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: keep the news from leaking out. It's like why I
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: think the team it's too long on TV. Like the
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: picks need to be quicker. Well, Breer is the one
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: that's actually that I see it, that's actually tipping the pick.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Breer's doing that too. He's involved in this. All the
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: trades are are the Big jay'sert all the trades and
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: like it's like the commercials, like the interviews it's just
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: all taking a long time. Honestly, um let's see josh
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: and Dallas writes, Induce kept lining picking an ot as
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: replacing tires on a car. Recently, I've seen edge as
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: a sneaky need because of Judeon and Uche's contract, I
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: feel like the immediate holes are a bigger need to
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: go along with Deuce's analogy, picking edge would be like
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: changing your oil before the light comes on when your dashboard.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: It's different. Though, I'm going to defend because I mean,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I agree, there's no I don't think this a big
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: argument to be made that an edge is right. Nothing difference, yes,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: but it's also just I know everybody. Everybody allows josh Uja,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: but I keep wanting to remind people Uja was only
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: on the field forty percent of the time last year.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: They view u as a situational player. He's a situational
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: pass rusher that's gonna come on a third down and
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get to the quarterback. If they can get
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: one of these edge guys that can play on all
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: three downs, you can still put Uja on the field
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: on third down and you move them around and you
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: figure it out from the look on Paul's face that
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: you know the pick for the Cardinal Yeah, offensive tackle,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: Paris Johnson. Okay, you know, so that's how I expected.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: But the reason why I'm upset about it is generally
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: when that kind of thing happens, could be a run.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Here's the run on tackles. Yeah, you know, if this
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: is all starting to shape up as there's a lot
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: of question marks about this tackle class outside of Paris
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Johnson though, so I don't know how many teams are
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: going to be super eager Roderick Jones nineteen starts in
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: college pretty raw prospect. There's also some stuff that's come
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: out about his football character, as they like to say
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: this time, how much is he buying in? How much
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: does he love it? How you know, how much of
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: the time does he spend in the building? You know,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: like those types of things. So so I don't know
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: what does Everyone projects Scronsky as a guard or a tackle.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: He's a He's a guard. He's a guard. I wish
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: he was, okay, but I wouldn't be surprised to see
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: team give him a chance at tackle. You know, see
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: how it works. I let him fill I tackle first.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: But but the fact that he'd probably be a guard.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: He's gonna drop because of that maybe a little bit.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: I think that a team like Chicago, he just makes
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: your line better as a whole. Yeah. I think it's
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: kind of like Quenton Nelson a couple of years ago
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: for the Colts. So a team like Chicago could still
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: take him and think, all right, you know now we're
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: still our line is gonna be better. You know, Dante
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Scarnecki always talks about the middle of your line is
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: the depth of the pocket. Paris Johnson j that's the
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Cardinals selection. Yeah, he's a big boy. He was one
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: of the guys at the combine that just you know,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: you know those old lineman Paul we always used to
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: like there that just step up and you're like a
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: whole boy. This is a big guy. Uh, until he
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: made me feel inadequate. Look the part, Look the part,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: first guy off the bus, he's that we're watching him
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: tap everybody. He guess who's up? All right, Raids, they
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: got it. I'd be shocked if this is not Christian
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: Gonzales to the Raiders, because they were all over both
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: corners with her spooning Gonzales. Josh. Now they sawas pot
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: to his lap. Don't do it. Maybe they can lateral
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: into us with let's see. Darwin writes in I have
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: a feeling we are going ot first, But man, what
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: a night it be if we took Bijean Robinson. I
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: know that isn't the popular pick, but with Stevens, I
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: think it would take the pressure off Mac. That's what
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: you were saying, Tomarrow. With the addition of Juju in Ghisiki,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: I think we may wait. We may wait on pass catchers.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: So I will say another thing about Bijeon is his
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: ability to be a pass catcher. I think that he's
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: not just a great running back, he also has that
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: ability to catch the ball. And so I think that
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: if you have the opportunity to draft him, and I
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: understand it's not a need, I think it still could
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: have helped Mac Jones in this offense either way. I
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: mean there's I mean, I can your world where you
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: have no there isn't. But let's let's play on that
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: side of the street for a second. But just if
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: you had and look, this is going to totally make
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Kevin Harris and Pierre Strong like meaningless. But you know,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: to have two running backs, Lamanda can catch it too that,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: you know, give you that versatility. I mean, if there's
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: something there at least on an offense where hey, we
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: could plug either either one of these guys out there
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: on any three day who and they're gonna be passketchers,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: wide receivers. Wait wait wait, speaking of that, spinking of
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: that are what are the odds? We haven't really talked
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: about this, Like the tight ends. Tight ends, this is
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: a deep class for them, and the Patriots could use one.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: But that's why they might not take it in the
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: first round because it is so deep. You're gonna get
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: a good one in the second if if you really want.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a couple of runs on
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: those in the first, late first, early mid second, you know,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: like throughout the draft, I think you're gonna have little
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: pockets of like two three tight ends just pop up up,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: you know, going quick as guys try to get guys
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: day like I would. I would love to get Mayor,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: but it's probably not happening. He's good. Notre Dame from
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Christian the Cuban writes in am I the
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: only person who doesn't want an old lineman or defensive
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: player in the first round, we need offensive weapons. Get
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver with the fourteenth pick to be is
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: food right to the wide receiver that jumped off the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: page at fourteen, I'd be in favor of right. I
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: don't think there is. That's the problem with the wide
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: receiver classes. And then also for this weapon, Mac Jones
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: needs to be able to get the ball to this weapon.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: So we need we need a better line. Well, people
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: email and if you want a wide receiver, you need
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: to put a name to the claim, all right there?
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: If you if you want a choking because I need
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: to hear who, because in this draft, isn't a consensus
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: slammed up wide receiver besides maybe Jackson Smith and Jigba,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: but even him doesn't run very well, not a fast,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: not a burner. Like there's flaws in all these guys.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: And I think that's the problem with the receiver position.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: I love that that's an evanism right there, name to
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: the claim. There you go. We get this all the
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: time people call in email in wide receiver, wide receiver, Okay,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: but there isn't. There's no DeVante Smith in this draft.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: There's no Jamar chasing this draft. There's no Wattle there's
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: no Lamb, there's no Justin Jefferson. So who do you want?
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just a tough spot to be in
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Jefferson went twenty second. That's that's the
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: problem with eighteen twenty. Someone in twenties, right right, there's
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: no The problem with this draft is is that Jackson
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba should really be like at the twentieth
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft, but there's no elite tier
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: of receiver to push him down the board. So now
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: he's going to be the first receiver off the board
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: when really he should have been like the fourth or
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: fifth receiver off the or he could be the first
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: receiver off the board at twenty where he should be going.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting question because last year the quarterbacks, the
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: league did adjust to the quarterbacks not being as as
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: good and right, you know, Kenny Pickett went in the
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: first round of the Steelers, but then like Malik Willis,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: fell all the way to day three when after Bailey's
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: appy I think if I remember correctly, and so they
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: they did adjust. It wasn't a good quarterback class. So
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: we'll see what the receivers um. Let's see Kyle said,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: what's up? Love the podcast, Miss Alex. I don't know
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: where she's been recently. She's busy, she's moving. I also
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: love evans idea from last week about trading Usher in
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: a first round pick to Denver for another second and
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: Jerry Judy. That way we could have a great receiver
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: and get more capital. This is my first time emailing,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: and I hope you guys have a great night. Thank you, Kyle.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like that you do. Huh yeah.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: I was the this outline. It was a second and
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: for Judy, and then the Patriots at fourteen would take
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: the best edge rusher available and then replaced josh Uja.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: So you have the rookie coming at the edge rusher
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: spot you got Jerry Judy. That that was the idea,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: Colleen writes in UM I was reading how Justin Jefferson
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: was expected to be strictly slot in the twenty twenty draft,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: and he's much more versatile than that. JSN and jj
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: are both six one and around two hundred pounds, but
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson has longer arms. Is that the only reason
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: JSA can't js N can't move outside. Justin Jefferson's much
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: added are they really that comparable size? I feel like, really, yeah,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: they're pretty size comparable. But Jason at his pro day
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: ran like a four or five three. Justin Jefferson at
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: the combine ran into four fours. So we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: a guy that's at least a tenth of a second
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: slower than Justin Jefferson, which is a big difference if
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna be vertical on the outside. Yeah, it just
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: seems taller than me. I don't know. Let's see John
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: and La says this team is so bereaft of blue
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: chip players that it would be wise for Bill to
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: stop buying into the philosophy of not collecting talent building
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  Speaker 1: a team. Given the disastrous overall results of the last
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: almost decade of drafts, at this point, the Patriots need
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  Speaker 1: to collect talent, trade one of the Forts to move
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  Speaker 1: up a couple of spots to get one of the
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  Speaker 1: elite players available at cornerback or left tackle or wide receiver.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Let's go. Okay, so Breer trip this one too. They're
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  Speaker 1: going Tyree Wilson. The Raiders are going to take the
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: defensive end. Tyree Wilson. The Raiders take Tyree Wilson. Okay,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: So you got Max Crosby obviously, Chandler Jones. Chandler Jones.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: Uh oh time he signed a big deal too, didn't
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: he like he's not going Yeah, I don't. I mean,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was a huge ch Chriots game notwithstanding,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: of course, So you're surprised by the pick Evans, Yeah,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: I am a little bit. I thought they would go corner.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, they have Max Crosby and Chandler Jones already.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: Max Crosby's their best player, one of the best players
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: in the league. I guess you're adding a strength on
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: a strength, but I don't know that secondary. I think
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Duke Shelley's a starting corner. Maybe you see a Chandler Jones. Maybe.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: I just their their cornerback room is is really razor thin.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: They need some help back there, so we'll see what
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: they do. Um. Do you consider Jalen Catter a drop
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: so far? Or is this because of the what's definitely
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: because of the off field thing. But you're getting I
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: saw someone tweeted that, you know, we officially on the
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  Speaker 1: Carter Carter drop watch right now, and you're probably in
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: that Yeah, you're probably right in that that area we're
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: on the eighth pick. Now the pick is in for
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: the Raiders the Falcons. We'll be on the clock once
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: they officially announced this soul the Raiders Falcons could be
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: a Will Levis, but I personally and not that I
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: would say I'm all set at quarterback with Desmond Ritter,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: But I do think after seeing some signs of him
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: last year that I might not be devastated the Las
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders select Tyree Wilson defensive ends. Yeah, I wouldn't
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: be devastated if I were the Falcons and I had
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: to go into the season and give him a shot. Well,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: see if you could play. Now. Again, I'm not saying
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: I'm set at quarterback. I have Desmond Ritterer, but I
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: do think there was some intriguing skill set there with
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: that kid. I am if I'm I'm all set on
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks now for the Falcons, like Will Levis is not
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: the answer for that. I don't think if you have
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: to do Richardson had fall into this spot different It's
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: a different conversation. But with Levis being the pick, I
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: mean maybe if you really really feel like you need
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: to make a move for a quarterback, you come back
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: up in the end of the first round for Henning
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: Hooker like that, that might be the move for them,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: and then ridders there anyways for the year that Hooker
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: might need off and you go from there. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that you make Will Levis the pick here.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: So let's look at this. So you don't think the Falcons,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: the Bears aren't going to take a quarterback, The Eagles
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: aren't going to take a quarterback? The Titans? Could you
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: know they will spot you think they will? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So you think Levis will go and the eleventh pick
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: makes sense? Yeah, I'm also not ruling obviously I will
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: rule out Philadelphia. But who was the other one you
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: said before that Chicago. I wouldn't rule out Chicago. Really,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: Oh come on, I wouldn't rule it out all I'm saying,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: don't you think that they kind of? I would? I
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: would be in on justin Fields. Yeah, why would they
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: have tried the pick. They don't win any game fields,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, they don't win any games.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll take him. I agree with Evan,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: he's making the cogent point. I'm just saying I wouldn't
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: rule it out. That's all all. Right, that would be
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: a SHOWAKA. Yeah, well, Tyree Whiston looks the part of
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: Vegas so with this flowery suit he's got on. But
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: he's a big scary dude. I think long exclamation points
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: a good one. The answer to your question would be
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: because they acquired a lot of picks and didn't think
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: they were going to take a quarterback. But I don't
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: think they'll do it. Yeah, I don't think they'll do it.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: Tyry Wilson was a fun player to watch. He is
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: like just the hulk on a football field. Just absolutely
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: has long arms, strong hands, speed to power rusher bull rusher,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: can press it the line of scrimmage and hold a
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: gap against the run. I think the big question mark
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: with him and why he kind of fell a little bit,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: is he's not like that first step, explosive bend edge
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: rusher type like the josh U j much more of
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: a power, you know, go right through people. And in
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: the NFL you're playing a lot of grown men and
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: now you're not playing college kids or you can just
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: push you know, freshman eighteen year olds around like their
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: rag dolls. You're not going to do that too guys
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. So it'd be interesting to see how
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: it translates. I think you and your last monk, you
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: had him dropping or laws close. But at the seven,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, he seemed like a Patriots kind of guy
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: to me like this, I understand what Josh and Dave
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: Siegler seeing him, you know. I just I get to
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: the point though, And I've made this point one hundred
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: different times with the Patriots. Pretty good pass rush last year,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: but you know, without that top flight corner, you just
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: wonder if that I've always kind of subscribed to, like,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: if you've got enough pass rush, it'll make up for
• 1:38:35
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• 1:38:37
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  Speaker 1: We were video until late thirty. But right now the
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  Speaker 1: Falcons are announcing their pick. Let's go to the stage
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  Speaker 1: and the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. The Atlanta Falcons
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  Speaker 1: select Bijean Robinson anyone's surprised, Thank goodness, I'm a little
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  Speaker 1: bit surprised, but I am. I think we all feel
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  Speaker 1: a little relief than I like it. I think it's
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: you guys all talked about how good he is as
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: a player, so I'm not gonna go over that again.
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  Speaker 1: But just it's a team that really doesn't have the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about it a little bit before the break
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: about you know, Will Levis is probably not the guy
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: that you're gonna say, well, we're all set a quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna take him here. So you have Desmond Ritter.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta get him some help. They got a first
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  Speaker 1: round draft pick at wide receiver in Drake London. They
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  Speaker 1: had a young running back last year that was fairly productive,
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  Speaker 1: the kid out year. Yeah. Um, now you get this
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: versa little guy who a lot of people think is
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: the best player overall player in the draft. So you
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: have some uncertain your quarterback. You gotta put some stuff
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: around him to see if you can help him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't hate the move. I know some
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: people on Twitter sort of scratching their head a little bit.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no no, I'm not talking about Thank you Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: for saving Bill Belichick from himself because if Jean Robinson
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  Speaker 1: was there at fourteen, I don't think Bill could have
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  Speaker 1: passed him up, and I am just glad Atlanta did
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: it for him so that they don't. Well, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people said that this was going to test what
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: the value of running backs are in the draft. Is
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: has a drop to the point where a guy of
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: this talent wouldn't be drafted in the top ten, but
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: he was. He was. He was drafted number eight, So
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: some people still like running backs. Paul Um, So there's
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: a trade. The Eagles have traded up one spot, and
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: I think the speculation no one's reported it yet, but
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: it seems like Jalen Carter enub another absolute terra for
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: their defensive line. So I mean, it's just if that's
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: that's who the NFC champions get right now, it's oh man,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: it's a that's a problem for the NFC. Seems like
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: there was a bidding war there for nine for to
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: move up because they moved out one spot. So obviously
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: they felt like somebody else was trying to leap frog
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: them to get them, and they moved up to one spot.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: But Howie Roseman does it right? Man, he just goes
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: out and he just gets a premium talent and he
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: gets great value for his picks. It's just great players
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: at positions that are factors at your in your roster, right,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: you know, wide receivers, pass interior pass rushers, like they
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: just don't mask mess around in Philly. I love how
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: the football they haven't even done it yet and we're
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: all just feel like it's inevitable that talent and worry
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: about how you work at all together later, Yeah, and
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: it's worked for them. So the Eagles are sitting at
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: nine because of the trade. Interesting, so a lot of people,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: Jalen Card I mean, I haven't seen anybody say anything
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: other than than that. I mean, what else do they
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: really need? I mean, cornerback maybe, but I've seen it
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: a few times now confirmed. Yeah, now, now I have
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: seen a couple now, So Joe Banner just said they
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: get they get caught. So of the people remaining, Christian
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: Gonzalez is still there. Yeah, and I refuse to believe.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: I've refused to believe. At this point, you have to
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: start to think about I think a couple of guys,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez obviously being one. Jackson Smith and Jigba is
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: still there too. Ye, and I'm starting to really think
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: about that as well. If I'm the Patriots, those two guys,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: if you really like either one of those guys, the
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: price for trading up has not been exhorbed yet, So
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe you go up and get one of those guys. Yeah,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: so you would take js N over Za Flowers? Yes, absolutely,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: just because of the size. Just a better player, I
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: think overall. I think he's got a little bit more
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: of that jitterbug quickness at the top of the route,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: a little bit more precise with his routes. I just
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  Speaker 1: like him as a better player. I think the league
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: does too. I don't know, man, I was I've been
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: watching all day and a guy who was tied to
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, Scott Pioli, was just all over Za Flowers. Yeah,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: you know how much I love Zave Flowers. But I'm
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: not going to have kid myself and let the let
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: the you know, those rose colored glasses for Za just
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: because he was nice to me at the Shrine Bowl
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: come into Is that why you like? You actually watch tape?
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: Oh no, plenty of tape of that guy. But I
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: just would say that with JSN, he is just so
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: far in a way the consensus wide receiver won in
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: this draft, into league and in the media that I
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: have to listen to other people. The pick is in
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: for Eagles, Paul, you got a tip the Eagles? Yeah?
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: Oh oh oh no, I thought that they would. But
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: is that official? Oh yeah, yeah, like all the people
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: were saying that that that was the pick. Yeah yeah,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: ohh okay, all right, all right, so that's that's in there. Okay,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: I miss something. I'm not. I just didn't want you
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: to try to set me up as the mayok where
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, I think they might go Carter. I
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: miss one. I know that I already made the pat.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: I thought people were guessing that they were gonna like that. Okay,
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: so Jayalen Carter to the Eagles. That puts the Chicago
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: Bears on the clock at ten. It's just it's funny.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: Things are gonna take a quarter. I do not. I
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: just think it's funny, like who are they? Who are they?
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: Who are they going against to get this pick? Because
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: all they did was move up and and and a
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: fourth rounder like something like. It just seems like probably
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: had a fear that it was us. They probably had
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: a fear that someone was gonna trade up obvious Chicago. Yeah,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: but but really wasn't you know the Patriots moved up
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: one spot in the in the first round for I
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: think from fourteen to thirteen. Yeah, they got to get
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: Tai War. They got word that somebody wanted him. You know,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: well that's that was my question though. Do you think
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: do you think that that was based on we're gonna
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: trade up one spot in case they're talking to somebody,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: or if you call the Bears or you're like, so
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: are you talking to anybody else to the Bears play
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: coy and or they like maybe or you know, or
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: the Bears like, look, we've got an offer in hand,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: come with your best offer. You know. I just I
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: love that called And I wonder I wonder if, like
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: even earlier, you call up and say, hey, listen, we're
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: gonna take this guy. You know you're not an interested
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: and we are. If would you let us know if
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: somebody else was it, you know, would you do that?
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: I wonder if that goes on. I think it depends
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: on your relationship maybe with the team, like if you're
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: like if you're if you're Macro calling, uh, you know, Uh,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: you know what, Dave Dave Figler, and you know, like
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: like that one might be a little bit more upfront
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: than if you're talking to these guys like in the
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: uh you know, in personnel departments, scouts, they changed teams
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, and you know you might have a
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: guy just say hey, just so you know, I know
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: you guys, I know you're you worked for Philia and
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: I know you wanted Jaylen Carter. We're getting calls on
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: people wanting to move up for Carter. So yeah, the
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Eagles Davante Smith, Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter in the last
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: three Georgia, Georgia. Uh. And the Bears pick is in Oh,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: I love this offensive tackle Darnell Right. Okay, wow, that's
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: really high. So you still have uh Brodrick, Jon Jones
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: and Peter Scronsky. Yeah, you know you're at eleven, twelve, thirteen.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: There's only three more picks, see now that that's so
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: that's an interesting one to me because I think, you know,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: I know he's got a little bit of play a
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: little on the left, but I mean it feels like
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be a right tackle. And you know, we
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: talked about that on the show of like is it
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: too high to take a right tackle in the top ten?
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: Clearly they don't. They don't think so. I mean, especially
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: that's what Scarnsky, who's played left tackle, and Brodrick Jones,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: who I think that clearly they viewed Scronsky as a guard,
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: so he was off their board from that perspective, and
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: I think Rodrick Jones I mentioned it earlier. Some of
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: the football character concerns are out there now and maybe
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: that didn't clean you know, didn't check out for Chicago.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: So if the Patriots want a cornerback right now, Gonzales
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: is still on the board, and Joey Porter Junior is
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: still on them and Deontay Banks from Maryland, Banks and Banks,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: so there's a good chance they might get one if
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: they want a cornerback, you know, I really, but that's
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: not the way to look at it, because there's because
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: there's problem for them. They might be only one they like.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: And for all we know, that was Witherspool. Yeah right, no,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: I'm dead say that. That's my whole But that's my
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: whole theory Fred about they're all it's never the same.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: Like you can say, well, we're gonna get one of
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: any of these three guys because we like them, all right,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: it always one of them, they like, that's right, you know, yeah, yeah,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: that's the way it usually turns out. But you know,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: best on the board is I will say for Chicago
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: that offensive and you know me, I'm not a huge
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: like you gotta have good offensive line, you know me.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: That was one of the worst offensive lines I ever saw.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: Like the way the way that team played, they needed.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: I would have taken Scronsky, not caring if he couldn't
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: play tackle, just because I think he's a better player. Yeah,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a better player too. Darnell, right, guy.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: A lot of buzz and after the season, the Will Anderson,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: Will Anderson at the Combine, the Senior Bowl, he was
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: excellent in mobile and then people i think went back
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: after Will Anderson mentioned that and looked at him against
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: top competition guys like Will Anderson, b j Ojalari with LSU,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: Miles Murphy at Clemson, and he was just excellent against
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: all of those guys. So really good against top competition,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: really good at the Senior Bowl, those our NFL guys
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: that he's going up against in the SEC, and he
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: was able to block all of them, so I can
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: understand why they really liked him. I just am curious
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: as to why Roderick Jones is not not going up
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: there and getting the at right now, because it's a
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing with him if he's got football
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: character issues, and I think he's probably off the Patriots
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: poor too, honestly. So let's see where this goes. All right,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: So we got Tennessee right, Chicago, Chicago, Tennessee. We're gonna
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: need you to listen. What Tennessee picked darnel right? Evan
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: just talked about DNA right for about two minutes. What
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: did Chicago take darnel right? I thought you said Tennessee picked.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: Tennessee's up now? Oh okay, all right, all right, folks,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: this is what we need to you. Guys always want
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: everything on camera, and I always say, why do you
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: want it on camera? Is that needed to be on camera?
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: All right? So Tennessee's up at eleven, Tennessee's up at eleven. Yes,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: if it's not Will Levis here, then he is officially
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: the guy who falls wait for because this is about
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: where everybody had the four quarterbacks. The last one was
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: Tennessee right, right, and you saw. I mean, you've seen
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: two other teams in their division go and take quarterbacks.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: Now do they want to you know, go into this
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: with with Ryan Tannehill. Well yeah, I mean they if
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: I don't want to upset you. By the Celtics are
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: allowed sixty two in the first half gin Over, yet
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: I can't even think they're probably gonna win the game.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: But it's not exactly the I just the defensive stand
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: you were hoping intensity. They were embarrassed what happened the
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: other night, and they would blow doors off tonight. It's
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: sixty two to sixty. What are we doing? Where are
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: my apps? We gotta get that Bruins game on tomorrow
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: night down on the studio. If you know, no, you
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: don't want that because I'll completely check out. I care
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: about that team the best pick I meant in comparison
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: to the Celtics. By the way, but thank you before
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: someone goes, thank thank you for clarifying like I want
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: the Celtics to win, but it's not gonna end my life.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: The Bruins losing after that season, that'd be a tough
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: one to swallow. Let's see al in Englewood, New Jersey.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: I'll please Evan and give a name to the claim
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: JSN or Flowers as a BC supporter. I'm biased to Flowers,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: but I'll gladly take either one. Yeah, I mean, do
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: you think, Evan that that that Flowers might have a
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: better ceiling than than Jason though once they get into
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: the pros and and maybe he's I just want I
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: can't get away with jasen Is. I just didn't see
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: a purse for him. And that was just the only
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: thing that troubled me about him was just when he
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: would run the fall in the open field, it was
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: just there was never that like there's no there's yeah,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: the open field. He's not gonna rack up yak yards
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: like Za Flowers potentially could hit that slant for sixty
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: yards to the house. That's not going to be his game.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: But I do wonder he's so crafty and he's so
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: good at pacing out his routes. How much of it
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: was that he doesn't have a gear that maybe can
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: reach a top speed too. He really was just setting
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: guys up and sort of you know, he's just that
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: that craftiness about his game I think is kind of
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: hard for the naked eye to really see how fast
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: he he truly is if he just opens it up
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: and goes because he knows that the better way. You
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: don't want to run one hundred miles per hour all
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: the time as a receiver. You got to set people up. Yeah,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: David and Bethlehem says, the twenty twenty three draft doesn't
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: have much star power. Do you think that COVID interrupted
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: college college players coaching in development? Does this mean the
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: teams will have more trouble? Right? So the Bears have
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: taken Darnell? Right? Yeah? Does this mean that the teams
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: will have more trouble than usual? Let's picking good talent?
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: Does this mean that the Patriots can pick up some
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: good ones and coach them up? Does to Marrow have
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: any thoughts about aesthetically pleasing tight end Claire Cooper's that's Claire.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: I would just say, like, don't confuse like COVID and
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: lack of development for talent. That's like undeveloped, you know
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: what I mean. I just think like I just think
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: that year to year, the talent evaluators, for whatever reason,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: don't feel like there's much high end talent in this draft.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: I believe that all drafts have talent, and they'll be
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: probably the same amount of players that turn out to
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: be good players in this draft as any other. I
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: think where people are wondering is whatever the number of
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: all pros that a normal draft has the same amount
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: in this But talking about COVID, do you think COVID
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: affected development? Because we were told that a lot of
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: guys stayed in college longer. There are a lot of
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: fifth and sixth year guys. Shouldn't that help the develop
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: more time those their guys? But did it stunt the
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: younger guys development? But I don't see why because they
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to play because these other guys
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: stayed at school. They did, they played three years. You're
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: not leaeven if you didn't play. I mean, why would
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: you leave if you didn't get a chance to play? Well,
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: now you don't get that extra you know they were
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: allowing players guys they have an extra year two Well
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: they do. Everybody did for now. Anybody that was ever know,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: anybody that was on any roster in the COVID year,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: yah could stay an extra year. It's killing sports in general. Yeah,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know you guys, and you guys
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: don't care about this stuff. And I get it because
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: it's we're not in a really college sports oriented area,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: but basketball and hockey hockey is getting destroyed by it
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: because the freshman classes that are getting recruited or getting
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: pushed off. And that's why the average, like Quinnipiac's average
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: age was like twenty four. Is it? Yeah, I've been
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: pronouncing it wrong because it goes there. She's really excited.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: How does she pronounce it? Quia? You said Quinnipiac, Quinnipiac.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: That's what Evan just say. Can you say I think
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: he's saying something entirely different than you, but you said,
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: this is one of those semantic things. It's not it's
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: not Saturday, So I'll wait. Tis going to the Titans here?
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: Will levis Uk to the anker. That's a lot of
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: that's like a like a like a what Ben Jones
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: replacement center? Well, that's such a great that's a Vrabel
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: pick right there. Like I don't care if he's a guard,
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: I don't care if he's a tackle. He's a football player.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: I'll take and I'm gonna take him and we'll figure
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: it out. I thought the Patriots would take him if
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: he was a build but for that same reason. Yeah,
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: it's a he's he's the best offensive lineman in the draft.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: He just he doesn't have the body type, but technically,
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: his hand usage, his footwork, he is as clean of
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: an offensive line prospect as you're gonna find. He's just
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: not long enough, all right. So if if it stays
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: the way it is, Lions, Packers, Patriots, oh my, in
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: that order Lions. Well it's exciting if you're the Patriots
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: because right now Jackson Smith and Jigba, Christian Gonzalez and
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: Roder Jones are all still on the board. So one
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: of those guys is gonna be there. I mean pick,
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: I just I refuse to believe Christiannzalez is gonna make
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: it through these next two picks. But I I've never
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: seen anything like it where so many people are on
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: board with that pick, like I'm seeing Andy tweet about it,
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: like I think everybody gets it with him. Well, it's
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: it's a need and a talent both it is and
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: he and like you know, reading up up a little
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: bit even more on him today, he's he's one of
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: their guys. He's one of those head down, quiet, you know,
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: come to work, punch in, punch out that you know,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: not really, but the more a Stefan Gilmour type. You know,
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk quietly about absolutely am rather than wearing
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: the glasses and the chains and tell you how great
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: I am. So I'm trying not to get too too
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: amped about that. But he's also one of those guys
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: too that I think the reason why I really liked
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: him for them is that he can play multiple schemes,
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: and you know with them that they want to be
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: a game play defense and change it up every single week,
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: and he's as smooth, that's the word. Or they play
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: match coverage in Oregon too, like the Patriots do, so
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: they he can do every single type of coverage. So
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: one week, if you want to play quarters because you're
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: playing Miami, you gotta keep everybody in front of you,
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: he can do that. The next week, if you want
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: to get up in people's kitchen and play man to
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: man on the line of screamage, you can do that.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: And that type of versatility. And we all thought the
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: Lions were taking them when they were originally. I think
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: they're taking them now, That's what I'm gonna tell. Like,
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: it's so upset now, I know, I know, I'm like, well,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: Tamarazov doing other thing right now. But that's how I feel.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: Fair Like Kurt Jamin Johnson, I'm like, come on, he'll
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: be there and they'll trade down. Still, that's probably what's
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. M Charlie and Virginia says they haven't watched
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: any college football this year or jsent Tate. All I
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: hear is people saying JSA is just a slot and
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: it's very slow for a wide receiver. Is he significantly
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: different in terms of offensive impact than Jacoby or is
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: he actually a quite good talent? And people accentuate the flaws.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: Apologies if this is a stupid question. It's not a
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: stupid question. But I think he's a much more dangerous
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: kind of player than Jacoby Myers. I mean, I think
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: he has much more athletici. The Patriots draft Jackson Smith
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: and Jigba. Go watch the Rose Bowl against Utah from
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: a few years ago when he put up three hundred
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: yards in one game. Three hundred in one game, and
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: you will not have to feel any sort of doubt
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: about the big That's all, Okay. There's gonna be a
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: few guys on the board that I think most people
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: would like. The Patriots to take and I think he's
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: just gonna be a question if they do. And I'm
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: just waiting patiently for the Lions to break my heart.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah wow, wow, so negative, you know, Blaster, I feel
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: I feel good right now, Like I don't. I feel
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: like I'm I'm numb to the pain. So whatever they do,
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna let it bother. I think it's like,
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: you know, right before the big crash, you just kind
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: of come to the acceptance of this. I think the
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: part that's gonna be tough for a lot of Patriots
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: fans just looking at the players that are available. Somebody
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: that all of us really like is gonna be there
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: at fourteen and if they trade down from fourteen Roderick
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: Jones is still there or Json is still there. That's
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: gonna drive me. I can see that's what happens. I
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: was so excited. I was like, he's there, he's there,
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: he's there. It's working out. And then it didn't happen.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: Didn't happen. But I remember Paul you was saying that
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: the Colts had picked one and two picks. Yes, didn't
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: they have nineteen ninety two. Do you remember have any
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: guests who the players were ninety two. Quentin Korea. That
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: was one good Paul, excuse me? Did you sneeze? Was that?
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: Can you give me that school of the other guy? No,
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: but I think he was a lineman. Cortesse Kennedy was Seattle.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: It's in Seattle, Seattle, Steve, Steve, if you if you
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: gave me some time. Yeah, I didn't end up in
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 1: the the Broncos. Eventually he was a bust. Yeah, do it.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans select Peter Skernsky offensive tackle. I knew that,
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: you'll you'll, you'll be all excuse Lions pick. We know
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: the Lions pick. And second thing, Jeff Howe tweeted out
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit a few minutes ago that if will
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: Levis is on the board at fourteen, the Patriots will
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: not be taking it. Oh boy, so Jeff howis steet? Ever? Yeah,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: we could have probably made it a little more, Jeff Howe. No,
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: not expected to just what you although they might, but
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: they could they could. So I believe the packers are
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: now technically on the clock. Wait, so who were the
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: lines taking? The Lions lines are running that from Alabama? Okay,
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: you left you buried? You know you have to repeat
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 1: it again anyway because of two minutes who were even
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: talking about three of the phone call? So they just
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: one happy guinea family gives another running back. Yes, I
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: think that's an odd pick, not because it's a running back,
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: but just I think their defense is so bad. Yeah,
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: how do you not adjust the defense? Maybe people just
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: don't think, uh that Christian Gonzalez is as good as
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: we think he is. I don't know. Yeah, what if
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: Green Bay took Will Levis they can't. I don't know.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: I've all been here in all week, and then pick
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: a quarter Oh he really made strides. Jordan Love, Aaron Rodgers,
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: the hell think Evan's JS and isn't play for Green Bay? Yeah,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: and I don't have the pick yet, so yeah I could.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: I could see tackle or wide receiver, just because if
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: they if they do believe in then Jordan Love, then
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: you have to get the pieces around to help him
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: be successful. You know, you pickeder. However, what tears me
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: away from them picking a wide receiver is they haven't
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: done that in the first round since two thousand and two,
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: so that's why it leads me towards tackle. They also
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: picked Christian Watson last year at the top of the
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: second round, so they've already used a top thirty five
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: the other guys. Siver was the other one they grabbed
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: the uh Romeo DoD Yeah, so two receivers last years.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: I think was a fourth rounder if I'm remembering correctly. So,
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: but this is one scenario that we've played in our
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: heads probably a million times. Christian Gonzalez and Jackson Smith
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: and Jigbar are both on the board. Who are you taking?
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: I would take Gonzalez, I would. I would take Gonzalez.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: I would say I like him. I would take him
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: over Broderick Jones. Yeah, I would, because Evans sort of
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: swaying me against Roderick Jones. I'm a football character saying
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: I don't. I also don't rule out Edge. I mean, yeah,
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: I think you know the Van Ness or the Miles Murphy,
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: those kinds of guys, those aren't That's a good one.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: I'm with Paul. I'm with Christian Gonzalez only because he's
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: ready to go right now to play. That's my pick. Yeah,
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I know. I was running back.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they're like, oh, you said they were gonna take
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: a No, No, that was who I would take. I
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: think I think, and I think back to what Matt
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: Gros said, if you're gonna whoever you pick in the
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: first round, you need to have great convict about them,
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: and they need to be able to come in and
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: play and be great right away. I think Christian Gonzalez
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: bits that versus Broderick Jones is going to need a
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: little bit of work. Christian Gonzalez is one of those
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: guys too. That is, his whole family are athletes. Yeah,
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: and I think they kind of like that sort of thing,
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: like you know, his sisters were track stars. Both of them,
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: I think, went to the Olympics the last cycle on
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: the US track team, so that he just has it
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: in his blood, you know, running, the ability to run. Right. Anyway,
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: they're gonna play quarterback in the NFL, A you better
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: be fast. He still have DeAndre Swift too, right, Yeah,
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: the other guy left. This is gonna be the surprise
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: pick so far of the first round, I think. But
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love Jamir Gibbs, so I think he's really
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: good player. I'm not. Yeah, this is what Fred starts
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: making fun of me about my running back hatred, right,
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: but these are both of these guys are really good players. Yeah,
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: he is from zero to sixty. He's the fastest running
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 1: back that I've ever seen on We're watching it just
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: absolutely runs away. You mean number one didn't run them down?
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: He s gotten that like Chris Johnson gear just like
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: footing the ground. And you saw it. You see it,
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: just the piece sign that Tyreek Hills, some inside linebacker
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: from Kansas State, couldn't couldn't keep up with your imagine
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: being so fast. I could just I thought that something
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: I was never fast. I always wanted to be fat,
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: just being able to like see you flip that gear
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: and just blow away from people. All right, Green Bay
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 1: on the clock. There's gonna be a good player available
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots. I mean, I just how
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: do you trade down? How that twenty one? How do
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: you try? I just I don't know how they would
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: if they trade down? Right now, Christian Gonzalez and Jays said,
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Roder Jones out of it for now
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: because that something might be going on with him. Yeah,
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: but Jason and Christian Gonzalez, one of those two guys
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be on the board for you both that
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: premium positions of need for you consensus top players in
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: the day. Man, come on, let's go. You're getting it.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: Let's go. I know not how do you trade down
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: out of that pitch? Save it? Just I want you
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: to hold that energy for about six more minutes and
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: see what happened. I definitely like the idea of Gonzalez.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: I've been on this guy, um, you know, almost as
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: long as you guys have been. Um. I just think
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: that that that's a good that's a that's a need.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: They need a guy who can play on the outside
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: death and a rookie contract too. I mean the guys
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: that they've had, they played been paying free agent deals.
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: I mean I know that, you know, Grievus was here
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: for just a year, and you know talib was what
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: like franchise for a year. But I mean they paid
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: Gilmore a bunch. I forgot about that. Jan Olowski just
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: tweeted it out. The Lions also signed David Montgomery. Like
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 1: they not only still have Swift, they signed montgom. What
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: are we doing? Like they must view Gibbs as as
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: like a pass catcher, no offensive. I'm sure he is,
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: but I just don't think this makes a lot of sense. Yeah,
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: I think you know, we're doing catch twenty two the
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: other day, and Bart just said kind of sick and
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: tired of Stefon Diggs just always being open against the Patriots, right,
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: And Christian Gonzalez is one of those guys. And I
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: also think Deante Banks has that type of potential too,
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: if they will end up liking him more. But both
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: of those guys, I think the Patriots are gonna be
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: on the clock here at a second. Okay, so the
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: pick is in for green Bay. We know I haven't seen,
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen. Yeah, maybe their moles are better at
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: hide again. Yeah, they got the pick line. That's it's
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: not most waiting to see who Green Bay takes. And
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: then the Patriots are up on the clock. Yeah, well,
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: you know, Lucas van Ness you never wanted really, So
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 1: the Patriots have been safe from themselves three times in
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 1: this top thirteen. I love it because I want it.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 1: I like Lucas Faness, Bijean Robinson, Peter Scronsky off the board.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: You'll can't take any three, any of them, thank you?
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: Green Bay? All right, So it's gotta be Christian Gonzale.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: It's it's gotta be Christian Gonzal. I mean, that would
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: be my pick. I don't rule out tackle though. Murphy
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: I think is hanging there. Do you have something? Do
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: you know something? I don't know. He had a little
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: friend like glean in his eye, right, I just don't know.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna tip anything. I know we'll
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: probably see the pick at some point. But I no, no,
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: I don't like, you know, I don't. I wish I did, okay,
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: because I would either be look, I'd either be containing
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: incredible incitement or I would be beside myself. This is
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: a dream scenario. The number one guy, I'm like, this
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: is the number one guy on both of us like that.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: We think it's my number one guy and my number
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: two guy on on my on my big board. This
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: is a dream scenario. I never envisioned both of these
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: guys being here for you. Get the camera on heavan.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: Oh god, now I'm not doing it again. No, I'm
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: not gonna be cool and collected. Let's just see so.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: I mean. Also, the best tight end in the draft
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: is still I'm just saying the best tight end. It's
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: just like that's a good class. Doesn't mean they deserve
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: to be taken in fourteen. Okay, Um, but the Patriots Michael,
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: the best tight end, the best receivers available that comes
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: every time, and some a lot of boards. Like Evans said,
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: the best cornerback is available quarter. I think with Gonzalez
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: what teams might have not seen the ball production like
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: the interceptions and the past breakups kind of reminds me
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit of Trent McDuffie last year. That's not
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: quite there for him. I don't think it's because he
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: can't play the ball, honestly. I think it's because he
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: shut his guy down so well that they just didn't
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: throw at him all that much. But that's the one
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: thing that with Witherspoon, He's around the football constantly making
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: plays on the ball, whereas Gonzales is. You really got
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: to watch the All twenty two to really respect Christian
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: Gonzalez and understand what makes him tick, because he's not
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: somebody that's going to be around in the football as
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: much does the fact that what does um what with
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: usons in Illinois? So that's Big ten and Gonzales is
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve and he played agree. You know,
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: does the Pac twelve looked down on a little bit
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe when it comes back. I mean I don't think so. No,
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, okay, what about Nolan Smith. What do
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: we think of Nolan Smith? I mean, I think he's
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: a high end josh Ucha, you know, I don't I
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's a three down player. In a
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: twenty three NFL draft, the Green Bay Packers select Lucas Finness. Now,
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 1: you know, Evan, you were like, why isn't he starting
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 1: if he's so good? Why isn't he starting if he's
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: so good? And I think right now he is a
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: one trick pony and they have Rashan Gary, But is
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: that good? It's good? But all he is is a
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: bull rusher. He's a power guy. He's speed to power,
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: getting your hands into the chest and walk you back
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: into the quarterback. And that's obviously if you're dominant at
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: that then you can be a really good pass rusher.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: But he's got to develop some counters. He doesn't find
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 1: the football very well. I would say they compared him
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: for Rashaan Gary on Edit Network, so they basically have
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: two Rashan Gary. So there you go. So if you
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: are if you like all those players for the Patriots, right,
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: you know, the Gonzales is the Banks, the Broadwick Jones
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: is Uh, you know js N doesn't. Doesn't that open
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: the door for you to trade back. I don't love
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: any of them, but I like I want to go,
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: so I trade back a little bit. I get another
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: pick somewhere, you know, in the fourth round or something.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: The problem that I have with that is I don't
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: want to do it. I'm just I I hear you.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: I truly feel like Gonzalez and JSN are on above
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: tier to these other players that you just mentioned. I agree,
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: and I think that's what the Patriots desperately need, right
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: they need top end, blue chip talent. And I think
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: if you trade back and you take Deontay Banks instead
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: of Christian Gonzalez, I don't I don't know if you
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 1: really got that, and I don't think you can risk it.
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: But you know, like you said, Evan, the Patriots board
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: is so much different than everyone else's. God only knows
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: where they have Christian Gonzales on that board. God only
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: knows where they have anybody on that I know. That's
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: why job so different. So you know, you're calling a
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: blue chip talent, Maybe they're not. You know, that's fair.
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out in three years. Here we
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: go down they did Steelers, Oh my god. But let's
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: not freak out. That's not that So they're down to seventeen.
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: Well that's why I said, you're probably trade down a
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: few spots and get one of those guys. Yeah, but
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: you know, but I'm just I just want to say,
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 1: like I'm gonna say it now. Okay, you're hearing the
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: reaction the fans are booing here at the party. But again,
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: I don't have a huge problem with trading down. Just
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: don't tell me, well, that was the guy they were
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 1: gonna get. Like, they're not all the same. So even
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: if the guy that you were going to pick at
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: fourteen you end up getting at seventeen, that's great, that's lucky.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 1: Don't say it's chess and checkers, right, because they're not
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: all the same player. That's what you know. That they
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: got seventeen and one t Clearly they don't feel strongly
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: enough about one of those guys seven to take seventeen
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: and one twenty. I think that sets you up there.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 1: Now you have four fourth round picks, so that trade
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: up into the second round tomorrow night. That they've made
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: five straight drafts. Now you got the m O to
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: part with a couple of those fourth rounders. If you
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: like somebody at the top of tomorrow night, you can
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 1: go up and get it. And I'm just gonna say,
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm not predicting this, but I wouldn't be stunned
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: if they don't pick at seventeen either. Yeah, just keep
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: getting Do we know the terms of the trade yet? Wow? Yeah,
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: I'll let you repeat it. So they traded down to
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: seventeen and they picked up fourth round pick number one,
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: one twenty. So they now and they weren't in the
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 1: fourth round now I know they had They had three picks,
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: so now they have four. They got four picks in
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: the fourth, the fifth, they don't have a pick, correct,
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: Four fourth rounders. Tell you that's how that's how you
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: compete with Kansas City. Well, that's where the value is.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: Four fourth rounds round where the value you know what
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: they say, If you want to be Patrick Mahomes corner
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: of the market of fourth round picks, I'm gonna I'm
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: gonna disagree with a little bit, but I gotta i
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: gotta push back a little. I gotta push back a little, Okay,
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: because at seventeen that the Patriots are sitting right now,
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: they are going to get the player that they probably
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: were going to take at fourteen. Let's face, it's three spots.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: So my guess is they're gonna tell you what's the
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: guy they were going to take, No matter what I mean,
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: they're not going to tell you. Their minions will tell you.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: But I actually believe that because why because it's only
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: three spots. If they had traded down ten spots, then
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: I would have said, okay, now you can't tell me
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: that there's no drop off on the cliff. But three spots,
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: this is nothing. Rodrick Jones going to the Steelers. Roderick
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: Jones going to the Steelers. So the Patriots were out
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: on Rodrick Jones. That's that's pretty apparent. So the question
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: right now at seventeen, I think it comes down to, okay,
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: so just out of curiosity, Yeah, okay, if they take
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: a tackle at seventeen, do you still think that? Yeah?
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Don't you think that they I don't
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 1: think they'll take a tackle seven. Don't you think they asked, picture,
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 1: we'll trade with you, who are you gonna pick? Yeah?
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: And if it's the guy that they liked, they wouldn't
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: make the trade. I just don't think you don't lie
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: about that. I think they I think that that he
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: would be perfectly fine. I think they'd be perfectly fine
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: with somebody else. I'm not sure, and that's fine. Like
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: I think that that's if you really don't care if
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 1: it's Gonzales or I think whoever I'm telling you, if
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 1: then that's fine. That's the theory is it doesn't matter
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: than them, right right right, And I don't think like
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: just basing it off of let's say it's corner and
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: receiver for right now, I don't think that they probably
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: don't see Gonzales and Banks as much different. So whoever
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: end up with a seventeen, they're happy way same thing,
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: but maybe with Jasn and Za Flowers, like if it's
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: going to be a receiver. Yeah, I agree with you
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: that that's what they think. I just don't agree with
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: the philosophy. That's fair. I totally agree with your tackle question.
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: They kind of missed the boat on tackles in the
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: first round at this point. As far as I agree,
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 1: they won't take one at seven. Well, I don't think
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 1: Anton Harrison and Dwan Jones, I think are the next
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: two guys that I would put on the list that
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 1: tackle traded the fourteenths pig. I don't really think there
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: with you. I'm not the fourteenth pick. In the twenty
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 1: twenty three NFL Draft. The pittsforg Steelers select Roderick Jones
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: offensive tackle Georgia. So the Jets are on the clock.
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, they got Sauce. I hope they don't
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 1: want to match Sauce with Christian Gonzales. Pour back they
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: could take, they could take the antony they need line. Yeah. Really,
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by this. They should trade back. I like
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 1: your trade down. I like it. Talk to me in
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: five minutes. I'll tell you m to me, it's just
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: about Gonzales. I liked him. That's okay. Like, it doesn't
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: matter what I might still be there. I get that
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: they might still be there. And I think Deonta Banks
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: is still going to be there, and JSN and Zay
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: Flowers might still be there. And really, what I think
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: they did is they set themselves up for that trade
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: up into the thirties tomorrow night. So now you come
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 1: away with two top forty players in the draft. The
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: most surprised thing would be if they don't trade up tomorrow,
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 1: because they don't want to take twelve guys right and
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 1: four guys in the fourth round, Like, give me a break.
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: I don't need. It's a lot of value in the
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 1: fourth room. Now, don't start. But there is value in
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: this draft is from right now to like the fiftieth
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: pick tomorrow night. So if they can get two guys
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: in that top forty, I think there's value in that
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: for sure. In this draft in particular, Dave says, lucky seventeen,
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: json please. Robert says, wow, even if we don't get Flowers,
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 1: I'll take Gonzales if he's there, but wow, call me
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: bb junior baby. Just to be clear, seventeen is an
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: unlucky number. Patriots is very unlucky, especially if they took
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 1: a receiver of seventeenth overall, even that would be we
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: will be sweating that one out. Maybe they should trade.
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 1: We're talking about the number seventeen, the Jersey number seventeen.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: You can check out. I thought it was like the
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: draft pick seventeen, like seventeenth overall. Marco says, I hope
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: that pick one twenty can be packaged and we can
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 1: go up in round two at least maybe sneak in
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: at the end. Of the round one. Let's go get
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: someone good at seventeen. Love the name the claim by Evan.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: Let's get Christian Gonzalez, Jayason or Jalen Hyatt. Okay, not
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hyatt. That's where you part company. Not even on
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: my board. No, yeah, I think gonna trade down and
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: can don't don't don't less with me. I mean I
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: kind of don't want them to take a guy at seventeen,
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: kid get to eighteen, just just for the purpose. Um, yeah, well,
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: they definitely have options. It's just now we hold our breath.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, what about the commanders. So just a you know,
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: an aside here on a guy that's been tied to
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 1: the Patriots a lot. Monti astin Ford said he does
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 1: not foresee DeAndre Hopkins being traded during the draft and
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: said he could absolutely be on the team. Um, adding,
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: Deandre's a cardinal and we're moving forward. Okay, So maybe
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: I think he definitively says he's not gonna get traded
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 1: during the draft, but I would sort of cut eyes
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: from them. Maybe they made up well during the draft.
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean like tomorrow morning he couldn't get No,
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: that would be during the draft. The draft has started
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: on Saturday. No he's talking about like, yeah, that would
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 1: make him a liar. No, just be set, just semant,
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: so you could do it right now. No one's picking.
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: Draft started at eight o'clock and it won't end until Saturday. No, no, no,
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 1: that's what he's talking about. I know, but you never know. Semantics. Oh,
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: Phil Perry with us some Evan Lazar like, uh slander O.
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: My guess is Roderick Jones wasn't viewed as a squeaky
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: clean football character fit. Patriots moved back now with all
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: four consensus tackles off the board, but still could crack
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: a top flight corner. Take a crack at a top
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: flight corner. Yeah, I mean I would. I would like
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: it if if it was Gonzales. Yeah, I think everybody
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: would see what we like that at fourteen. But what
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: I don't like is, well, they're gonna get Gonzales a bank,
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 1: so they don't. They're fine, that's the way they think.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 1: Well what's wrong with that? Because I don't like one
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 1: as much as I like the other. But what if
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: they do? That's fine. I don't like it. I don't.
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 1: I would rather get the better place. Yeah, I don't
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: like it, Paul, when you when you say the same position.
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: But I think when you mix positions and if you're like,
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 1: well we like Gonzales and Jayason like, then I can
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: be back. That's totally different. But I have totally do
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: with you where it's you know, this is where you're
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: stacking vertically and horizontal. Yeah, yeah, I kind of feel
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 1: like Banks might be their guy. All right, let's take
• 2:23:31
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• 2:23:34
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  Speaker 1: The pick for the Jets is in What are we hearing? Yeah,
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 1: it's like Will McDonald, who's an edge rusher. I believe
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 1: he was at the Senior Bowl. Was that where? Where
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 1: that what I caught him? I think? Yeah, Will McDonald
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 1: at the light Iowa stayed skinny, I just fell light. Yeah.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 1: Not the explosive player that Josh Ucha is, But some
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: of his traits reminded me a little bit of Oocha.
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 1: Just the way he's in his bag. Right, He's got
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: a bunch of different pass rush moves that he can
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 1: go to, and a little bit of his h Maybe
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 1: I think might be a little bit. I'm surprised because
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 1: they took Jermaine Johnson last year, so I guess maybe
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 1: they feel like they bookend them now they got two
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 1: of them. I don't know. It's a great edge class though,
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: and obviously everybody's got a different board. Jimmy gonna have
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 1: ice cream? You know what I'm talking about? Now? Know
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's a social media I'm not like jumping
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 1: for joy on Jimmy kid. Thing is that Jimmy making
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 1: the pick? Is this? Who is this kid with? I
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 1: don't know. It might be Jimmy. There's just something about
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 1: kids in suits that just bothers me. I don't know
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: what it is, but yeah, it just pictures their dad
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 1: tieing their tie for them, and he's like, I don't
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: want to wear it? Does your kids that don't make
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 1: them dress up? What am I? I'm a nice dad?
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: Who hurt you? You're announcing a Jets raft draft pick.
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 1: You're gonna put a suit on Billy? Every time my
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: dad did it? Oh, we teach me how? I was like,
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't care, I really don't. But I'm
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 1: sure he's a wonderful kid. And though you know, I
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 1: just class Clint writes in h do you guys believe
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 1: Belichick has done a bad job of self examination. Yes,
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: the Patriots won for years by stacking up talent with
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 1: more draft picks, but in a QB league, I think
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 1: it's fair to say that it was more about Brady
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: than Belichick's draft strategy. He hasn't adjusted, and on a
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: team without an elite quarterback, he is drafting and coaching
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: himself out of a job. Even I'm gonna at least
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: take a reprieve. I feel like I've had, like Will
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: McDonald or whatever, good job by the kids. But does
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 1: he know that the Jets don't win anything like ever? Well,
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 1: they got Aaron Rodgers. Now they're they're feeling excited. I'm
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 1: not gonna kill the drafts right now, but I will
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 1: just I mean, as we're on the verge of the
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 1: Patriots making a pick that we could possibly really like.
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: But I just I think I did a little bit
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 1: of draft research this week, just kind of maybe a
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: little bit more of a deep dive into some of
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: their performance, and I think the two big problems are,
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 1: You're right, they don't get they haven't drafted Blue chip
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: talented players. They just they whether it's in the first round,
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: whether it's hey, a random guy just kind of emerges.
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: I guess ramandros Stevenson could be, you know, that one guy.
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 1: But the other big thing that stood out to me
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 1: that in the research is just that they whiff on
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 1: picks more than anybody in the afcast, Like I think
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 1: he's eighteen picks in the last five years that they
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 1: just have gotten nothing out of I mean, Dalton Keene
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: compared to the other team. It's it's it's like the
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 1: Jets were like nine. Nobody was more. It was like
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 1: six seven with the Bills. You know when you just
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's all very general because it's you know, look,
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't know this. They didn't know the
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 1: Bills drafted Wyatt Teller. I totally had forgotten that. So
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 1: it's like you're looking like players like that. I'm like, well,
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 1: does that count as a hit for the Bills because
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 1: why they're hugging and the Jets come on. It's so performative.
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: It is so performative. It's one of the rare things
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 1: that Fred and I sold can't stand that we're hugging
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 1: over Will McDonald. I don't care. It's like luck when
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 1: you like all I met all off season and beyond
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 1: working on this. All right, all right? Oh God commanders
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 1: to a cornerback, Emmanuel Forbes. So wow, I'm surprised I
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 1: don't like him as much as I needed to Demanuel
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 1: Forbes to me was like a cross between Jack Jones
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 1: and J. C. Jackson, where just a lot of skinny
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 1: body type wise, Yeah, but a really boomer bus player.
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 1: He's either a pick six the other direction, or he's sixty.
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's six for the offense or six
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 1: for the d there's no way between six touchdowns or
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 1: something like. Yeah, I forget. Really, I mean, he's a
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: ball hawky, he's a playmaker, a guy that I had
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 1: on my board, but significantly lower than this. So Christian Gonzalez,
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 1: there can't be any character concerns with Christian Gonzalez because
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 1: that kid was as clean as a whistle. So what
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 1: are we missing? I don't know. I don't know. I
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 1: honestly don't know. I think they just plays on the
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 1: ball with more importantly, um Alex chimes in to let
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 1: us know that we we dropped the ball and left
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 1: Fred hanging on the the the reference. But it's little Johnny,
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 1: not little Jimmy. Oh but I would like to say
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 1: that I would have known you would talk with but
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't text. It's a little Johnny. He can I
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 1: get his ice cream with that picks They're back up
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: on the clock, Patriots around the clock at seventeen the pick.
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 1: We're looking for that trade down symbol to come up
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 1: on the TV. Just go back to my point, I
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: was making the real quick thing. This just was so
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 1: surprising to me when we don't. When you just line
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 1: up and you see how many guys did they draft
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: that never even you know, played a game or played
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: less than five games for them, It's it's striking those numbers.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: And I think it's probably requires a little bit more
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: of an analysis of like what is the disconnect? But
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: they're drafting a lot of players that never end up
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 1: doing anything for them. And I'm sure you know, we
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 1: could go right down the list, justin Borewasser, you know.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 1: And I'm the one that usually subscribes to like, I
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: know the draft is a little bit of a craft shoot.
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: I know that they're gonna be missus in the first round,
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 1: just like there's gonna be hits in the third, fourth,
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 1: even fifth, sixth round, you know. But still, I just
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 1: those numbers, to me, they just jump off the screen.
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: And I think when you look at where the Patriots
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 1: are at right now, and then you stack it against
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 1: the other AFC drafts and you look at what Buffalo did,
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: what the Jets have done, and it's not even necessarily volume,
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 1: at least with the gents. They just they get good players.
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: When they have a top ten draft pick, they're drafting
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: really good guys. Well, they're not winning and we are.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: But I can't say that, and you might want to say, oh,
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: I can't say that. And I think it was like
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 1: the seventeen eighteen nineteen draft maybe for the Bills, where
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 1: they're getting four or five starters in each of those drafts,
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 1: and the Patriots are lucky if they get two, you know.
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 1: And that's eventually it catches up with you and you
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 1: want to look where teams are at that look at that.
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 1: That's that'll that tells everything in the town. All right,
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 1: Let's see, you should have seen him when he first
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 1: did this research, Fred, He was really wounded. It was
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 1: kind of funny, Paul, because you and I both we
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 1: both like we were both like, hey, I did some research,
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 1: but it's always like these random things that we went,
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 1: like on a numbers hunt, and now we can't wait
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 1: to share it with each other. Scott says, Duce, don't worry,
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 1: we'll have a top five pick next year. Oh that well, Hey,
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 1: it's all gonna work out the way it's supposed to.
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 1: But guess what, folks, uh, spe says Wow, Evan is
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 1: out fretting Fred and is after the fact optimism. Well
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 1: that's good. We need we need more optimistic people, you know,
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 1: because they got their guy that they don't wanted to
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 1: they got maybe they got the guy. Okay, So now
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 1: I think Evan and I are gonna end up having
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 1: an argument later, but I'm very excited with the pick.
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: Kristin Gonzalez Yeah okay according to Mike. I haven't seen it,
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 1: but Mike has. Mike no, Mike, just so okay, look,
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: what are we gonna argue about nothing? A cornerback got
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 1: taken the pick before? How did they know it wasn't
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be the guy? You Maybe they have good moles, Paul, Okay,
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: maybe they go you know, maybe they just told them
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: they got the same guy. They were gonna take him
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 1: at fourteen. They were at fourteen and they called Washington
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 1: and asked him what they were going to take at sixteen. Yeah, okay,
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: you guys looking for a cornerback and they were maybe
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 1: they found out a way to find out if they
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: what they thought. I just think this. I'm thrilled with
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 1: the pick. I'm this is not the time now. I
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 1: think this was the guy would have taken at fourteen,
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: and they got him at seven gun at seventeen. I
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 1: don't care about the fourth round check matters nothing to me.
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 1: But I don't know how you guys can just ignore
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 1: the faces. Guys at the position that they took got taken,
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 1: and you evidently didn't care. You like Christian Gonzalez best too.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 1: I did, Yes, so did they, and I wrote it.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 1: This is not just chess. This is mister spot three
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 1: dimensional chess on star Trek. Okay, yeah, that's worthy of
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twentieth pick. I guess the three dimensional chess.
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of fourth round picks, and hopefully none
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: of those end up going down into the Oh, we're
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 1: gonna pack those up. I think this guy's a good
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 1: player and I think he could play on the outside.
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 1: I think that was a major need. Cornerback was a
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: major need. Yep, I like it. Twenty three NFL drafts,
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders select Emmanuel Forms so defensive backstay. I'm
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 1: talking to our producer Matt Lapin. Have we worked out
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: the phone issue where we can hear the callers because
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 1: we have? Okay, so because I know people want to
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: weigh in, Uh, okay, good? Oh now I can't. I'm
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: off it happened, Freddy, Oh can I connect with I
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 1: just I like it. This is not I'm not gonna
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 1: I'll just tell you guys that you guys were all right,
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: and I'd like to pick too much to argue about anything. Wow,
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 1: It's it's just weird to me because I feel like
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of consensus of everybody's like, this is
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 1: a really good pick, and usually last year everybody went
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 1: nuts slightly out out. Now, so we can just say
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 1: that it's Christian Gonzalez to Oregon, Christian Gonzalez from Oregon
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 1: to the Patriots last year this time, Deuce, I'm sure
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: you were feeling the same way I was freaking. I
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: was locked. I always lost. I didn't know what. I
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 1: am ecstatic. Bill Belichick played this perfectly. He got his
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: guy at seven. Gonna keep trying, You're not gonna get
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 1: me fourteen. I said on Playbook yesterday with John Rook
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: that Christian Gonzalez was like Shakira because his hips don't
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 1: live all right. This guy can play man, can play zone,
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 1: can play match. This is a fantastic pig. If you're
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: sick and tired of seeing Stefan Diggs catch passes all
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 1: over the field on the New England Patriots, they just
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: got a guy that can go out there and can
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: shut him down. And that is something that you have
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 1: to be excited and you need that. You know, as
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 1: much as we like John Jones and Jack Jones and
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: Marcus Jones, you know that's not enough to be keeping
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 1: up with the Joneses. We needed You need somebody better.
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 1: You need some size. I mean and Evans, Evans hid everything.
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the the ability to play man,
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 1: to pay zone. I mean that that's what they do.
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 1: They go in and out. I mean they play a
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 1: lot of match coverage now, which is you know, it's
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 1: it's it's a version of gypands out. He's gonna make
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: everybody else better in that back right, and you're not
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 1: paying him like you had to pay Stefan Gilmour when
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 1: you've went and got you know, the kind of player
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 1: that you think this could be. This is the first
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 1: time in a long time, Paul where I didn't have
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 1: to go home and come back the next day. Yeah. Well,
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 1: the new England Patriots, Christian, get me the jersey. I'm
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 1: putting it on zero, number zero, right number zero at
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 1: Oregon Again, uns out of my wise, has the speed,
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 1: has the athleticism, the smooth, fluid and looking kid. There
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 1: are so few flaws to his game. Maybe there isn't
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 1: a standout trait and that's why he makes it all
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 1: the way to seventeen. But if you're trying to look
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: for a flag, look for something that's gonna make this
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 1: kid not a good pro, I can't find it on film.
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 1: So this is a slam dunk pick for the Patriots
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 1: at seventeen to get this year. Yeah it is. And
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 1: and it just I know I've hit this and you
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 1: guys have heard that you say this quite a few times,
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: but just for this audience to say, you know, it
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 1: just feels like this was one of the pieces that
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 1: was missing. Even though the defense is pretty good, they
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 1: were in the twenties. On third down, they had trouble
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 1: with Digs. As Evans pointed out, they needed a guy
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 1: that they could at least attempt to match up with
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 1: some of those guys with some size. It just it
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. And as much as they
• 2:39:59
  Speaker 1: have next with you, it's it's it's something that they
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: really needed to add and it's just been a missing
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 1: element around here. Is he works, then he he allows
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 1: you to go from we're a good defense against the
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 1: bad offenses. Yeah, if he works, he can make you,
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 1: as Evan said, have a guy that potentially can help
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 1: you contain the guys like Stefan Diggs and the Jalen
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 1: Waddles and the guys that have really tortured him over
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 1: the you know, yeah, the last couple of times. And
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, and like I want to be fair and say,
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 1: like it's a lot to say, hey, come shut down
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 1: Stefan Digs, you know, like you know, so I mean, look,
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 1: there's got he's gonna have to develop, and he needs
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 1: some time. I think that they have some depth in
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 1: the secondary that can you know, break him in show
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 1: him the ropes Jonathan Jones's back, which is just a great,
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: uh you know, leader to have back who knows the defense.
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 1: But he's just he's not a slot corner. You know,
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 1: he's going to be an outside guy. Look at the
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 1: inside of Puerto Rico. Okay, what is that? I think?
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 1: Or is it Dominute? What? What was it? It was
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 1: red and blue? It was it was yellow, yellow, yellow,
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 1: red and blue. Yeah, I'm not Sheldon Cooper. I don't
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 1: have fun with flags. I just I haven't said the
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: words smooth and like. And they're calling it ring fluid
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 1: mover here Jamaica. Um, but he's just such a such
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 1: an athlete. Matt Lapan's trying to tell me what it is,
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 1: but I'm too stupid to figure it out. I would
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 1: also just say that after a draft last year where
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 1: they went completely off the board and did their own thing,
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 1: this is a consensus player we all. That's what I
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 1: think all of us really wanted coming into the draft
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 1: was just pick somebody that all of us can say, yep,
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 1: Christianans are all. We were all. He wasn't going to
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 1: be available, right, and now we got it. They they
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 1: got him at seventeen. What what a brilliant I mean,
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 1: we thought he was going to be brilliant. You can
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 1: keep trying. I'm not biting it. I like the pick
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 1: too much. I'm not biting. It's just the total. It's
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 1: the total opposite feeling of last year. Back into the corner,
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 1: and pretty soon he's gonna be like, all right, I
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 1: gotta fight my way out of this thing because what
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 1: what is the score? Ninety four? They're up? Oh? How
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 1: much time? Oh it's only the third quarter. They played
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: stellar defense, seventy still a minute left of the third quarter. Okay,
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 1: all right, so we really quality effort with we challenge.
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 1: Al right, so against prophetically bad team as far as
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 1: we know right now, that's it for the Patriots in
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 1: the first round. They could move into they could package
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 1: those four fourth rounds, they could and get a fifth
• 2:42:32
  Speaker 1: and give me, yes, they could. That would that would
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 1: really blow it out of the water. I don't know
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 1: if we're gonna get that excited tonight. Well let's hey, hey,
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 1: let's push our luck. But I look at the board now, though,
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 1: and Jason falling z a flower is falling right. We
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 1: talked about this earlier. The league adjusted to the receiver
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 1: class the league knows these receivers are not the elite
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 1: guys that they've had in the last couple of years.
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 1: So if that receiver run is now going to start
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 1: towards the end of the first round, then trading up
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night I think is more realistic. But maybe you
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 1: end up getting as A Flowers or John Josh Downs
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 1: early tomorrow, you know, and that that would really knock
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 1: this draft totally out of the park if that's the case. Yep, yeah,
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 1: I mean that's look, I think this was the big
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 1: piece and we and then there's a lot of edges
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 1: that I think, you know, developmental guys in the next
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 1: couple of days. Um, but I would say you got
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 1: the corner. I want to hit the offense hard. Now
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 1: you know that these are the next couple of picks.
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's all right, should be what they're looking
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 1: Let's set some listeners out on the A sticket hot
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 1: line eight five five patch five hundred. We'll go to
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 1: Jake in Australia. What's up Jake to get the bunch.
• 2:43:42
  Speaker 1: You're gonna go get some lunch, right because it's Australia.
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 1: After you think that brilliant peak, Yes, brilliant picks us.
• 2:43:55
  Speaker 1: He's tried back and we lost that. We were deafy
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 1: gondalls as well. Buff guilt proviled. He did. Thanks. Thanks.
• 2:44:06
  Speaker 1: Jakie stayed down for an hour to say that. Um,
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 1: let's go understand, let's go to uh David in Des Moines, Iowa.
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 1: What's up, David? Damn? Hey, guys, how's how's everyone doing? Hello? Yes?
• 2:44:21
  Speaker 1: Can you hear us? Yeah? Okay, go ahead. Camara, you
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 1: look amazing tonight. By the way, thank you. She's not here. Well,
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying the rest of you you just look the same.
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 1: I thought I look really sexy tonight. Now didn't Lean
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 1: tell you that before you left? No? She didn't, and
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 1: then I took it personally. Is that David? You okay?
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 1: Please don't be it? No? Um? Why why chick constantly? No?
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 1: This is a rare occasion. Why is there all the speedback? Um?
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 1: Where he doesn't just draft players that are like from
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 1: a school that like Fred you're your example, Wisconsin, they
• 2:45:05
  Speaker 1: got good linemen. If you don't know where to draft
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 1: a linemen drafted from Wisconsin, why didn't Belichick like just
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 1: avoid doing things like that. It's a good question, David
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 1: and I'll let you go. Um no, I mean like
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 1: picking from this you know, those those big schools that
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 1: are you know, known, just picked a guy from Oregon. Yeah,
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 1: he just did. But but Evan, you know that, you
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 1: know what he's saying. You know, like you know, like
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 1: two years ago they did it. They picked two from Alabama,
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 1: two from Oklahoma State. But then last year they were
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 1: picking you know, I would just say that just from
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 1: a statistical perspective, you do the research, the Cole Strangers
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 1: and the Kyle Duggers, those are the outliers, all right,
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 1: Like I know, the last you know, go to just
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 1: go from twenty eighteen to now, twenty eighteen, they picked
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 1: two guys from Georgia the national champions. In twenty eighteen
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 1: nineteen they pick Nickeil Harry from Arizona, Stay out of
• 2:46:04
  Speaker 1: the Pack. Twelve, twenty twenty was Duggard, then twenty twenty
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 1: one was Mac Jones from Alabama, the quarterback from Alabama.
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 1: And then this year they take Gonzalez from Oregon. I
• 2:46:13
  Speaker 1: get that people get fed up with the with the
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 1: picks like whole strange, but they course corrected, like you
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 1: can't be upset about it anymore, they're getting better. They're
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 1: getting better. Let's go to let's see Sean in Vancouver.
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 1: What's up, Sean? Happy draft everyone? Oh my god, I
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 1: can't believe it. You know, for for most people there,
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 1: most fans anyway, the NFL draft is like Christmas. But
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 1: for Patriots fans it's been like it is, or has
• 2:46:44
  Speaker 1: been as kids for having to me at Hannah Cut
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 1: where we rather trade in our eight like dollar store
• 2:46:49
  Speaker 1: gifts for one great big Christmas present. And and now
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 1: I think I think we got it. You know, we
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 1: got that that go kart right with it's It's pretty
• 2:46:59
  Speaker 1: incredib I'm pretty happy. I usually always disappointed. Last year.
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 1: I remember I was on the phone when we were
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 1: supposed to make up pick and tomorrow is mentioned it,
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 1: you know, talking about Jermaine Johnson, and you know, I
• 2:47:13
  Speaker 1: was right with her. I wanted that. I was like
• 2:47:15
  Speaker 1: excited about that, and then they traded down. But you know,
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 1: when thinking back to it, I think they would have
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 1: been better off if they stayed there to get the
• 2:47:24
  Speaker 1: uh the cornerback McDuffie because he was there too. Another
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 1: thing I just wanted to mention though, is uh so
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 1: we have we have other players on the on the board,
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 1: who are still there, Like you remember on Tuesday and
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 1: we're talking about you wanted to move up for for
• 2:47:43
  Speaker 1: JSN and I said, no, Gonzales is gonna be gone.
• 2:47:45
  Speaker 1: I thought going to trade down it and they were
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 1: both there at seventeen. It's just crazy. Absolutely, it is
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 1: crazy that the board fell this way. Thanks Sean. I
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 1: said it before they were going to pick at fourteen,
• 2:47:57
  Speaker 1: and it was the same at seventeen. Gonzalez and Jay
• 2:47:59
  Speaker 1: said my two favorite players in the draft for them,
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 1: and they were both there for them to make the pick,
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 1: and they took one of them. So he was my
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 1: number one player on my Patriots big board. He's my
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 1: number one grade at corner in the draft. I mean,
• 2:48:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you could be anything more but
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 1: anything other than ecstatic Patriots. Right now, I'm gonna sum
• 2:48:16
  Speaker 1: it up for you really simply. I can argue about anything.
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 1: You guys know that I can't argue this pick is
• 2:48:21
  Speaker 1: too good. You don't need to. I can't. I can
• 2:48:24
  Speaker 1: argue with you about I know anything, sometimes you don't
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 1: have to. But I wrote earlier in the week before
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 1: we even started our shows, I wrote, if there's a
• 2:48:32
  Speaker 1: dream scenario. It's that Christian Gonzales is available at fourteen
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 1: and you can take them. They ended up getting an
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 1: extra pick in still getting that guy. Like I'm with them,
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you can find something. I mean,
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 1: it's just if by you a nature, you just want
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 1: to bitch about stuff, then have at it. I'm not
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 1: here to tell you shouldn't bitch, but listen to your
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 1: shows tomorrow. I think I think it's a I think
• 2:48:57
  Speaker 1: it's a great I'm sure they'll think. I think she
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 1: don't even know who he is. I think it's a
• 2:49:01
  Speaker 1: huge need. It's a huge need, and people don't understand it.
• 2:49:05
  Speaker 1: If if they're bitching about it, they don't understand that
• 2:49:08
  Speaker 1: they had a highly ranked defense and they don't have
• 2:49:10
  Speaker 1: a highly talented one. Yeah, and they didn't understand that
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 1: if that's what they're bitching about. They also weren't good
• 2:49:15
  Speaker 1: against good quarterback that's my point, right, and they have
• 2:49:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of good quarterbacks in their division. And I
• 2:49:20
  Speaker 1: think now with Christian Gonzalez, I don't want to put
• 2:49:23
  Speaker 1: too much expectations on him. He hasn't played it down
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 1: in the Patriots uniform yet. But you just look at
• 2:49:28
  Speaker 1: the idea of the pick ty law Darrell Reeves a
• 2:49:31
  Speaker 1: keep to leave Stefan Gilmore. The great Patriot defenses of
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 1: the last twenty five years have had that number one
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 1: shut down guy. When they get into the game plan meeting,
• 2:49:41
  Speaker 1: they say, you know, Stefan Gilmore, you have Stefon Diggs
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 1: everybody else, We're gonna do this right. And that type
• 2:49:49
  Speaker 1: of guy was a necessity when you play as much
• 2:49:51
  Speaker 1: man coverage as the Patriots too. I think, you know
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 1: what else is just killing me right now. And I
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 1: think Paul is the perfect example. It's just like so
• 2:49:57
  Speaker 1: weird to get a pick that everybody's excited. I don't
• 2:50:00
  Speaker 1: think a lot of I don't know. I don't think
• 2:50:03
  Speaker 1: you're gonna hear a lot of blowback. No, I I
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 1: got news from North Providence. There were no harrumps. Eric,
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 1: did you chime in even though tonight No he doesn't,
• 2:50:14
  Speaker 1: he doesn't. Fred Tamara, she's back. I'm enjoying someone. I'm
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 1: gonna let to marry. We're gonna go, We're gonna run
• 2:50:22
  Speaker 1: up stairs real quick and shoot a quick thing. All right,
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 1: you guys, I'm sorry, what me and okay? Video equip
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 1: you were um, what was the reaction, Well, first, there
• 2:50:34
  Speaker 1: were a definitely a lot of booze when the trade
• 2:50:36
  Speaker 1: back at lots of booze. But for Christian Gonzalez, once
• 2:50:40
  Speaker 1: the pick was made, there were a lot of cheers,
• 2:50:42
  Speaker 1: jumping up and down. I talked to a fan briefly
• 2:50:44
  Speaker 1: as he was walking out, and he said, that was
• 2:50:46
  Speaker 1: a really great pick. I'm really excited about it. So
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 1: it seems a consensus from the group that everyone that's
• 2:50:52
  Speaker 1: sitting in here today was really thrilled with it, especially
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 1: with obviously what happened last year. Yeah, so all right,
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 1: so we got our guy. Know, I wonder if they're
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 1: hugging in the Patriots draft room. But so we talked about, like,
• 2:51:06
  Speaker 1: there's not a lot of huge first round talent in
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 1: this draft, but there's a lot of value from like
• 2:51:11
  Speaker 1: fifteen to forty or whatever. Would you say that this
• 2:51:17
  Speaker 1: draft has better talent in the second round? Elijah can't
• 2:51:22
  Speaker 1: see that's the Buccaneers. YEA, Elijah can't sye he's from Pittsburgh. Yeah,
• 2:51:29
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say more. I'm just saying that, and this
• 2:51:32
  Speaker 1: is very unscientific, frend. I just feel like most drafts have,
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 1: you know, a pretty similar amount of players that turn
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 1: out to be productive players in the NFL. Yeah. I
• 2:51:41
  Speaker 1: think where drafts get separated when you start remembering like
• 2:51:44
  Speaker 1: the seventy four draft, you know, and stuff like that
• 2:51:47
  Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh, is when you get a collection of like
• 2:51:50
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame talent. I don't think there's like ten
• 2:51:52
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame players in every draft. One might have five,
• 2:51:55
  Speaker 1: another one might have none, But I think probably all
• 2:51:58
  Speaker 1: of them have X amount of quality NFL players, And
• 2:52:01
  Speaker 1: I would say that this is probably the same. But
• 2:52:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if this second round talent is a
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 1: little bit above average second round I doubt it, Okay,
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 1: quote but I don't know, do I know, I'm not
• 2:52:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not your brands like, I don't. I don't know.
• 2:52:13
  Speaker 1: I don't do this stuff for a living. Okay. I
• 2:52:16
  Speaker 1: think that where this draft was lagging behind according to
• 2:52:22
  Speaker 1: the quote unquote Draft Nicks, Yeah, is high. Yeah, high
• 2:52:26
  Speaker 1: end studs coming in. But there's probably as many productive
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 1: first rounders in this draft as they were last year
• 2:52:31
  Speaker 1: or any other year. Uh So Will levis still out there. Well,
• 2:52:35
  Speaker 1: once Tennessee doesn't doesn't take them, you're out of Like, yeah,
• 2:52:39
  Speaker 1: there's a run of you know, Tampa could have been
• 2:52:42
  Speaker 1: in play there, but they obviously didn't take them. But
• 2:52:45
  Speaker 1: like Washington, Yeah, I mean you look Seattle, Seattle won't
• 2:52:50
  Speaker 1: take them. Seattle could, yeah, Chargers won't, Ravens won't. I
• 2:52:55
  Speaker 1: think Seattle might have taken Richardson if you were real
• 2:52:57
  Speaker 1: Vikings with with Kirk Cousins day, I think that's a
• 2:53:02
  Speaker 1: spot for him. Does he only have one more year left? Yeah,
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 1: I mean you have to think about the future anyway.
• 2:53:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're smart, you're thinking about the next guy.
• 2:53:08
  Speaker 1: Giants with Jones, how many years was his contract? I
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 1: don't know, didn't he sign he just four? Yeah? Four
• 2:53:16
  Speaker 1: year contract? Yea, yeah, Dallas won't, Buffalo won't. Uh, the
• 2:53:21
  Speaker 1: Bengals won't. Seattle's a possibility, I like, I like tomorrow's
• 2:53:25
  Speaker 1: Minnesotas ability. They just signed car I mean yeah, yeah
• 2:53:30
  Speaker 1: they could, but I will be surprised. Yeah, so he could.
• 2:53:33
  Speaker 1: He is in all a likelihood he will not be
• 2:53:37
  Speaker 1: picked in the first What about um Detroit, I mean
• 2:53:41
  Speaker 1: they're like, what ten picks? No, that's tomorrow, Yeah, that's tomorrow. Yeah.
• 2:53:45
  Speaker 1: I mean Jaguars, you could technically get get him tomorrow. Yeah,
• 2:53:50
  Speaker 1: and he groom him. Yeah, he could be a second day,
• 2:53:53
  Speaker 1: second day pick. So all right, um, let's see what
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 1: else people have to say. We'll go back to the
• 2:53:59
  Speaker 1: eighth tike outline. Eldred's in North Carolina? What's up Eldred? Hey?
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 1: At that time, he nailed it. He nailed it. Oh
• 2:54:09
  Speaker 1: you do on board? What did I tell you? I
• 2:54:12
  Speaker 1: think people will have a hard time, yeah, trying to
• 2:54:15
  Speaker 1: punch holes in this pick. Yeah, yep. Now my other
• 2:54:19
  Speaker 1: scenario is I hope we move up in the second
• 2:54:22
  Speaker 1: round and get Quinton Johnson and Evan hope. I don't
• 2:54:25
  Speaker 1: can't be getting mad. I hope we get Quinton Johnson.
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 1: We'd be good. You knew he wasn't here when you
• 2:54:29
  Speaker 1: said that. No, I hope he lived there though he would.
• 2:54:36
  Speaker 1: I really liked the pick, and I liked the idea,
• 2:54:38
  Speaker 1: um of what what what Eldrid just talking about sort
• 2:54:43
  Speaker 1: of moving around see if he can get a wide
• 2:54:45
  Speaker 1: receiver tomorrow. I love that. Love that. Ye yeah, I
• 2:54:48
  Speaker 1: have a good one. Now, thanks are especially if you
• 2:54:50
  Speaker 1: have the pick of the litter, whoever you think is
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 1: the best wide receiver. Ye. Now, there's still a long
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 1: way to go before you get there. Buddy. Dylan's in
• 2:54:58
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. What's up, Dylan? Hey, how y'all doing what
• 2:55:05
  Speaker 1: you got? Um? I wish my boy Will Levis would
• 2:55:10
  Speaker 1: have gotten picked, but um he's dropping a little bit. Yeah,
• 2:55:15
  Speaker 1: but I love to pick from the Patriots, and um,
• 2:55:19
  Speaker 1: you know, if he keeps dropping, I'd love the Patriots
• 2:55:21
  Speaker 1: to draft or trade up and drop them in the
• 2:55:24
  Speaker 1: early second Well well I don't think they will, but
• 2:55:28
  Speaker 1: I you know, you you've called before the show and
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 1: you really like him, You're you're into him. Yeah, Well
• 2:55:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be fair. I would much rather have
• 2:55:38
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the early second round than him.
• 2:55:42
  Speaker 1: All right, now you speaking a little bit more sensibly.
• 2:55:48
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks Dylan. Fred smelling himself a little over
• 2:55:51
  Speaker 1: there with the callers. Uh, let's go to David in Texas.
• 2:55:55
  Speaker 1: What's up, David? Hey, m on on you? Oh perfect, perfect.
• 2:56:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's the first time, long time at first
• 2:56:04
  Speaker 1: time back to call in, and what a time to
• 2:56:07
  Speaker 1: call in. But what I got to say is, uh,
• 2:56:09
  Speaker 1: for the pick, I love it, right, I know we
• 2:56:14
  Speaker 1: all are tired, blah blah blah, um all on. My
• 2:56:19
  Speaker 1: question is is what is the chances that you actually
• 2:56:22
  Speaker 1: think that we get zay Flowers tomorrow with a package
• 2:56:25
  Speaker 1: off the picks that we have. I think you'd have
• 2:56:28
  Speaker 1: to move up high in the second round. I think
• 2:56:30
  Speaker 1: that I zay Flowers might be gone by the end
• 2:56:33
  Speaker 1: of the night. Um, but I don't think he's going
• 2:56:36
  Speaker 1: to be available when the Patriots pick tomorrow. Which what
• 2:56:39
  Speaker 1: number are they in the second round? Forty six six? Yeah,
• 2:56:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's forty six, So that's um, yeah, that's
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 1: like fourteenth or fifteenth, and so there they would have to. Yeah,
• 2:56:55
  Speaker 1: they have the ammunition to move up to the in
• 2:56:57
  Speaker 1: the second round. You can move up in the sea
• 2:56:59
  Speaker 1: round in that Evan's been talking about that. Um, They've
• 2:57:02
  Speaker 1: done that repeatedly in recent years. That's how they got
• 2:57:04
  Speaker 1: bar Moore. That's how they got Barmore's I mean back
• 2:57:07
  Speaker 1: in the day, that's how they got Gronk Yep, yep.
• 2:57:10
  Speaker 1: So moving up in the second round is they it's
• 2:57:12
  Speaker 1: like their sweet spot. So it's not out of the question.
• 2:57:15
  Speaker 1: The question is you know, in your mind, what would
• 2:57:19
  Speaker 1: they do it to get zay Flowers. I'd love that.
• 2:57:21
  Speaker 1: I'd love if they did that. God, I would too.
• 2:57:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm so happy that Evan by the way has not.
• 2:57:29
  Speaker 1: He's played a beautiful performance tonight and he's kept as
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 1: cool and I can't wait for you know, the next
• 2:57:37
  Speaker 1: the next episode. I'll let y'all go, so I appreciate it.
• 2:57:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, thanks David, David in Texas. UM,
• 2:57:45
  Speaker 1: the boards are lit up. We'll go to Raj and Wakefield.
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 1: What's up right? Hey, n Hello, it's just sitting down
• 2:57:57
  Speaker 1: and put on your headphone. Someone wants to talk to you.
• 2:57:59
  Speaker 1: Had to do with speak one of the hits would
• 2:58:01
  Speaker 1: do were we discussed about bijump right two days back.
• 2:58:13
  Speaker 1: I hope he's gone before pay test. Pa. Sorry, I
• 2:58:18
  Speaker 1: just got my headset back on what did you say? No?
• 2:58:22
  Speaker 1: We are you on be jump right on the yes, Yes,
• 2:58:26
  Speaker 1: I remember, yeah, yeah, Atlanta did the Patriots a favor,
• 2:58:34
  Speaker 1: all right. They took Bijan before the Patriots could take Bijean.
• 2:58:38
  Speaker 1: Even I told you that he should be gone before
• 2:58:40
  Speaker 1: preat test peak, and he was gone. I was expected.
• 2:58:43
  Speaker 1: I was not expecting Jemmy Gifts to go. But he's gone.
• 2:58:46
  Speaker 1: But we got the best corner back in the truck.
• 2:58:49
  Speaker 1: You're on board expected, So you're on board with Christian Gonzalez.
• 2:58:54
  Speaker 1: Raj Yeah, then when we are at preticting, when we
• 2:58:58
  Speaker 1: are doing the Texas style, were not expecting Christian guns
• 2:59:01
  Speaker 1: on Is to fall all over the type of deep
• 2:59:03
  Speaker 1: We were just going by the big board and selecting
• 2:59:06
  Speaker 1: players in the range from fifteen two eleven. He's a
• 2:59:10
  Speaker 1: top pint right, top six pos like it all right, thanks, Raj,
• 2:59:16
  Speaker 1: Raj and Wakefield. I would thank the Lions for this pick. Yeah,
• 2:59:20
  Speaker 1: Lions had two opportunities to address a huge immediate gibs
• 2:59:24
  Speaker 1: and they traded down and then took a running back
• 2:59:26
  Speaker 1: when they already had two. Yeah, yeah, that's it. I
• 2:59:29
  Speaker 1: think that's a huge I was, I mean, I was
• 2:59:31
  Speaker 1: already beside myself. I thought that they took Jack Campbell
• 2:59:34
  Speaker 1: the next pick after the Patriots took christianan Zaza at
• 2:59:38
  Speaker 1: inside linebacker, who a lot of people protected in like
• 2:59:42
  Speaker 1: forties at such a d it's a Dan Campbell. Pickie
• 2:59:45
  Speaker 1: probably thinks he's you know, old school right type guys
• 2:59:51
  Speaker 1: bite ankles. Oh so, yeah, you're right. That's a good point.
• 2:59:54
  Speaker 1: The Lions really did them a favorite. I know, Steve
• 2:59:58
  Speaker 1: and my homework whatever tells me that's a good point.
• 3:00:01
  Speaker 1: What's up, Stas, how are you doing good. I mean,
• 3:00:06
  Speaker 1: this is really exciting. I mean, if you think of
• 3:00:09
  Speaker 1: the last few drafts, the Patriots never got raided an
• 3:00:14
  Speaker 1: A and I'm saying all over the board, CBS and
• 3:00:17
  Speaker 1: all that gave the Patriots and A. And this is
• 3:00:20
  Speaker 1: so great because first of all, the afdeast has a
• 3:00:24
  Speaker 1: ton of wide receivers that we're going to be facing
• 3:00:27
  Speaker 1: and that is such a major portion that we need
• 3:00:31
  Speaker 1: to get a good cornerback and hopefully this kid works
• 3:00:35
  Speaker 1: out now if we can get I want to ask
• 3:00:38
  Speaker 1: you a question, Johnston or Zay Flowers, who would you
• 3:00:42
  Speaker 1: rather have? I would say Flowers and Jens going right
• 3:00:47
  Speaker 1: now to to ohiz, so j sent is off the board? Anyway,
• 3:00:51
  Speaker 1: I look, I'm impressed. Would say Flowers be considered a
• 3:00:57
  Speaker 1: number one receiver this team? I think, yeah, I don't know.
• 3:01:05
  Speaker 1: I always have a tough time answering that questions, Steve.
• 3:01:08
  Speaker 1: When you're talking about the draft, you're talking about guys
• 3:01:10
  Speaker 1: that are potential players, right, You're not? You know, So
• 3:01:13
  Speaker 1: what is Dave Flowers? Does he have number one receiver potential? Absolutely?
• 3:01:18
  Speaker 1: Is he can meet that potential, reach that potential? Who's
• 3:01:23
  Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks select Jackson and wide receiver. Forgot the Smith
• 3:01:29
  Speaker 1: Smith bro but the league adjusted though to this wide
• 3:01:33
  Speaker 1: receiver board, and this is about where Jackson Smiths funny right,
• 3:01:37
  Speaker 1: probably would have gone last year, right or the year
• 3:01:40
  Speaker 1: before that, when the receiver classes were a little bit
• 3:01:42
  Speaker 1: stronger at the top of the draft. So I would
• 3:01:44
  Speaker 1: expect now, though, that we're gonna see a run of
• 3:01:47
  Speaker 1: those wide receivers. You know, Jasen goes here, say Flowers,
• 3:01:51
  Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, like, those guys are gonna start coming off
• 3:01:54
  Speaker 1: the board now in the next ten to fifteen picks.
• 3:01:56
  Speaker 1: You know, it was funny. I'm sure Memorrel is gonna
• 3:01:59
  Speaker 1: have a fun time. I'm putting together some kind of
• 3:02:01
  Speaker 1: audio thing. The way we were talking about Gonzalez, like
• 3:02:04
  Speaker 1: the whole time in the show lead up, we were
• 3:02:06
  Speaker 1: all kind of prepared that, like he's never gonna be there,
• 3:02:09
  Speaker 1: like just them we talked about him up leading up
• 3:02:11
  Speaker 1: to that pick. Was just funny to me. Let's go
• 3:02:14
  Speaker 1: to SPI in Miami. What's up speed? This is great.
• 3:02:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is that morale boosting sort of locker
• 3:02:21
  Speaker 1: room morale boosting sort of thing you wanted to see.
• 3:02:23
  Speaker 1: This got a great player. This is so exciting. Like
• 3:02:26
  Speaker 1: a real commodity. You got a critical position of need
• 3:02:30
  Speaker 1: and uh and and Evan, I got my jersey, mycon tonight,
• 3:02:33
  Speaker 1: I got I got a big we all like sandwich. Um,
• 3:02:39
  Speaker 1: but but but I gotta, I got I want to
• 3:02:41
  Speaker 1: bring Paul out from behind the wall. They're like, what
• 3:02:44
  Speaker 1: what is the idea behind like risking it? Like just
• 3:02:47
  Speaker 1: going from fourteen to seventeen? Like like, what do you
• 3:02:49
  Speaker 1: just know what the other teams are gonna do or
• 3:02:51
  Speaker 1: if you're doing the horizontal and very back in a
• 3:02:58
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing
• 3:02:59
  Speaker 1: it this weekend. Sometimes you know you will do it.
• 3:03:04
  Speaker 1: I will sit Like. The one thing that I will
• 3:03:07
  Speaker 1: minorly push back on is just that I find it
• 3:03:11
  Speaker 1: hard to believe that they knew for sure that a
• 3:03:13
  Speaker 1: team that actually took a corner wasn't going to take
• 3:03:16
  Speaker 1: the corner they wanted. But I'm again, it's such a
• 3:03:19
  Speaker 1: it's such a minor nitpick. I don't even want to
• 3:03:22
  Speaker 1: bother even talking about it. I just this is the
• 3:03:24
  Speaker 1: guy I wanted at fourteen. I wrote it in my again,
• 3:03:27
  Speaker 1: I wrote it in my notes. But at the beginning
• 3:03:29
  Speaker 1: of the week, this would be represented to me, me,
• 3:03:32
  Speaker 1: not to them, to me a dream scenario. So I'm
• 3:03:35
  Speaker 1: not going to sit here and kill the pick when
• 3:03:37
  Speaker 1: I love the guy. They PFW was a place for
• 3:03:41
  Speaker 1: minor nitpicks, though, so someday we got to hear Paul
• 3:03:43
  Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's my minor nitpick. Even Paul is
• 3:03:47
  Speaker 1: on board with the pick because I'm very misunderstood of it.
• 3:03:50
  Speaker 1: I'm very very fair. Well, when I miss it and
• 3:03:54
  Speaker 1: I blow it, I tell you that I was wrong.
• 3:03:56
  Speaker 1: Obviously there's no way this one I didn't. Obviously I
• 3:03:59
  Speaker 1: like this. There's no way they could have known for
• 3:04:00
  Speaker 1: certain that he was going to be there. So the
• 3:04:02
  Speaker 1: question is who is the one or two other guys
• 3:04:05
  Speaker 1: that they had slotted at seventeen. My guess is that
• 3:04:09
  Speaker 1: Beyonta Banks was the other guy that they had, and
• 3:04:11
  Speaker 1: my guesses they were fine with that group, right, the
• 3:04:14
  Speaker 1: group that you were talking about earlier. My guess is
• 3:04:16
  Speaker 1: that Evan's right and they were fine. My only point
• 3:04:19
  Speaker 1: on that is I would rather make sure I get
• 3:04:21
  Speaker 1: the guy out like because I always operate under the
• 3:04:25
  Speaker 1: assumption that there's one guy that I like better than another.
• 3:04:28
  Speaker 1: But Evan, You're say the philosophy is but the sayont
• 3:04:31
  Speaker 1: Banks because he's a quarterback. But what if the other
• 3:04:33
  Speaker 1: two guys were guys in totally different positions? Correct, right?
• 3:04:36
  Speaker 1: And I think one of them is better than the other.
• 3:04:37
  Speaker 1: I think that looking at it. And from fourteen to seventeen,
• 3:04:41
  Speaker 1: that's three picks, right, And they probably had four guys
• 3:04:45
  Speaker 1: that they were happy with picking. My guess is is
• 3:04:48
  Speaker 1: it was Gonzales, it was Banks, it was JSN and
• 3:04:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe Joey Porter Junior. If they were
• 3:04:55
  Speaker 1: thinking those four guys, I think maybe are right there,
• 3:04:59
  Speaker 1: and now you get valuable fourth round pick. Well, don't
• 3:05:03
  Speaker 1: talk about that, Edan. How would you have felt that
• 3:05:06
  Speaker 1: they took Bank. I would have been fine with it.
• 3:05:09
  Speaker 1: I would have been a little bit skeptical of taking
• 3:05:11
  Speaker 1: him over Gonzales, But I really can see it with
• 3:05:14
  Speaker 1: Banks as well. And I think that he's going to
• 3:05:15
  Speaker 1: be a good NFL player too, So I would have
• 3:05:19
  Speaker 1: Goals was gone and they end up with Banks. Would
• 3:05:21
  Speaker 1: you be as elated as you are right now? I
• 3:05:24
  Speaker 1: can't say I would be as elated as I am now,
• 3:05:27
  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't. That's the risk they took your mom.
• 3:05:32
  Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, I think that they had to see
• 3:05:35
  Speaker 1: them all similarly graded. That's why you get this trade down.
• 3:05:37
  Speaker 1: And I just want to say one thing, and I
• 3:05:39
  Speaker 1: want to give some food as we talk about Bill
• 3:05:42
  Speaker 1: all the time. Macro, I really think Macro had a
• 3:05:45
  Speaker 1: great feel of this draft. I got that sense from
• 3:05:47
  Speaker 1: him talking to him at the combine that he really
• 3:05:50
  Speaker 1: he kind of knew what they needed and where the
• 3:05:53
  Speaker 1: board was going, even before anybody worked out at the combine.
• 3:05:57
  Speaker 1: And I really think that he's some boy that if
• 3:06:00
  Speaker 1: they listen more to him and Elliott Wolf and Cam
• 3:06:04
  Speaker 1: Williams and the staff that they have going there in
• 3:06:06
  Speaker 1: the scouting department, and they don't let the coaches override
• 3:06:09
  Speaker 1: what the scouting department's been doing for the last year
• 3:06:11
  Speaker 1: and a half. Those guys got a good feel for this,
• 3:06:14
  Speaker 1: and I think that in a lot of ways, Grow
• 3:06:17
  Speaker 1: was a part of this and was you know, took
• 3:06:19
  Speaker 1: to take the name brand. You know, don't mess around.
• 3:06:22
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry cut him off. I thought he was done.
• 3:06:24
  Speaker 1: Sorry about that speak. Let's go to Matt and Arizona.
• 3:06:28
  Speaker 1: What's up, Matt? Hey? Good? Now? Are you good? They
• 3:06:35
  Speaker 1: are super super excited for the stake. I was hoping
• 3:06:40
  Speaker 1: I was hoping he was just camp and taking that
• 3:06:43
  Speaker 1: sixteen because they changed back and I'm like taking, like,
• 3:06:46
  Speaker 1: oh no, not again. But it took to the guns,
• 3:06:50
  Speaker 1: the guts they got there guy, just like I think
• 3:06:55
  Speaker 1: it almost thinks up for the last year. But now
• 3:06:59
  Speaker 1: now we he really need to focus on the offense. Yeah,
• 3:07:02
  Speaker 1: and uh thinking we double dip at tackle like Jalen
• 3:07:07
  Speaker 1: Duncan and salid see is a third and fourth round,
• 3:07:10
  Speaker 1: but I don't know, we'll see. I'm just really happy
• 3:07:12
  Speaker 1: for it right now. So Quentin Johnston to the Los
• 3:07:16
  Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers. But this pick, so here, here come the receivers, right,
• 3:07:20
  Speaker 1: I kind of like him for them that, Yeah, well
• 3:07:22
  Speaker 1: he's Mike Williams ish right, Yes, that's exactly what I
• 3:07:26
  Speaker 1: was thinking. Yeah, those outside guys that Herbert can from
• 3:07:30
  Speaker 1: missing and Alan starting you know, he's always injured. It
• 3:07:32
  Speaker 1: feels like he's starting to get up there in age.
• 3:07:35
  Speaker 1: So they get another weapon. But give Evan a stick
• 3:07:38
  Speaker 1: tap for the wide receiver comment that he just made
• 3:07:41
  Speaker 1: wine js N went right now he is expecting a
• 3:07:44
  Speaker 1: little bit of a run on receivers. The next pick
• 3:07:46
  Speaker 1: is the receiver Baltimore. I don't think receiver, but Minnesota
• 3:07:49
  Speaker 1: has been tied to a lot, so that could be
• 3:07:52
  Speaker 1: another There won't be too much of a run. It's
• 3:08:02
  Speaker 1: not that it's not got another six. Some of these
• 3:08:07
  Speaker 1: people don't need more receivers, though Baltimore doesn't even what
• 3:08:09
  Speaker 1: do you think a Tamara's theory of Minnesota maybe rolling
• 3:08:12
  Speaker 1: the dice with Will Levis. I can't. I can't Will
• 3:08:15
  Speaker 1: Levis is still on the board. Yeah, it's definitely possible.
• 3:08:18
  Speaker 1: They had a lot of things linked to them. For
• 3:08:20
  Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker, I would imagine probably thinking that Will Levis
• 3:08:23
  Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be there was sort of what the media
• 3:08:25
  Speaker 1: was thinking, so they were tying him them to Hendon Hooker,
• 3:08:29
  Speaker 1: planning for that next stage after Kirk Cousins. And I
• 3:08:32
  Speaker 1: think you also have sort of hit your ceiling if
• 3:08:34
  Speaker 1: you're Minnesota a little bit with Kirk Cousins, So maybe
• 3:08:37
  Speaker 1: you're looking at somebody with a little bit more upside
• 3:08:39
  Speaker 1: and Levis I like Cooker too for them either one
• 3:08:42
  Speaker 1: of those guys I think are interesting players for Minnesota.
• 3:08:46
  Speaker 1: But I do know that they really like Jordan Addison,
• 3:08:49
  Speaker 1: So maybe it's I is it a here pick right?
• 3:08:53
  Speaker 1: You're trying to compete right now. So you add Jordan
• 3:08:55
  Speaker 1: Addison to Justin Jefferson and trying to really load up
• 3:08:59
  Speaker 1: or are you trying to plan for the future with
• 3:09:00
  Speaker 1: the quarterback again? I wonder too, I think to your point, Evan,
• 3:09:04
  Speaker 1: if they will go with a weapon for offense, just
• 3:09:07
  Speaker 1: because there is some uncertainty in their running back room
• 3:09:10
  Speaker 1: and their star there, you know. So I'm wondering if
• 3:09:13
  Speaker 1: they can get some star power maybe in the wide
• 3:09:15
  Speaker 1: receiver room to help out potentially a hole in the
• 3:09:18
  Speaker 1: running back room that does a lot of their work.
• 3:09:20
  Speaker 1: It would be something to look at. I mean, you know,
• 3:09:22
  Speaker 1: the charges are an interesting position, you know, because they're
• 3:09:25
  Speaker 1: in that division with Mahomes. They've got their quarterback, you know,
• 3:09:30
  Speaker 1: like this is their window. They've got to like somehow
• 3:09:33
  Speaker 1: figure out how to get over the Chiefs. You know.
• 3:09:38
  Speaker 1: Some of that's on them. They just make ridiculous mistakes, Yeah,
• 3:09:42
  Speaker 1: and just cannot hold onto a lead to save their lives. Yeah. Yeah,
• 3:09:47
  Speaker 1: let's go to Fidel in Tampa. What's up, Fidel. I
• 3:09:53
  Speaker 1: am absolutely amazed that they made this pick. I can't
• 3:09:58
  Speaker 1: believe they actually did it. It's something you thought they
• 3:10:01
  Speaker 1: should do, and they did it. I was shocked that
• 3:10:05
  Speaker 1: he lasted longer than the top eight. I thought he
• 3:10:07
  Speaker 1: was going to be one of the first defensive players
• 3:10:09
  Speaker 1: outside Kalen Carter and Anderson Gone. I am ecstatic. I
• 3:10:16
  Speaker 1: thought when he was avaible at fourteen and we traded
• 3:10:18
  Speaker 1: at the seventeen, that oh great, both him, just and
• 3:10:21
  Speaker 1: and Zay Flowers are gonna be gone because that's the
• 3:10:24
  Speaker 1: Patriots luck. Yeah, well all right, the only one that
• 3:10:30
  Speaker 1: can make type better is that they trade back in
• 3:10:32
  Speaker 1: and get day Flowers or oh why not? That feels
• 3:10:38
  Speaker 1: like we don't deserve it. But can you imagine the
• 3:10:39
  Speaker 1: energy all the things. It seems like a lot of
• 3:10:41
  Speaker 1: people kind of wrapped up at the party. When we
• 3:10:43
  Speaker 1: went upstairs, I noticed that some people were starting to
• 3:10:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, I want to hold the phone a
• 3:10:48
  Speaker 1: little bit. Up here. They have eleven party. They announced
• 3:10:53
  Speaker 1: the party is kind of being over. David thanking everybody
• 3:10:55
  Speaker 1: for coming. Really yeah, so she said. As soon as
• 3:10:58
  Speaker 1: the pick was made, he was like, thanks for coming.
• 3:11:00
  Speaker 1: If the Patriots, So, if the Patriots have like traded
• 3:11:02
  Speaker 1: up to top ten, would they have ended it, then
• 3:11:05
  Speaker 1: it's a good point, I guesses, yes, Wow, I want
• 3:11:08
  Speaker 1: to go find the drunk guys who are just here
• 3:11:10
  Speaker 1: but all the way, no matter what happens, they're just
• 3:11:12
  Speaker 1: still going up ordering. Yeah, I mean, i'd be hanging
• 3:11:14
  Speaker 1: up lights. Let's go see what else you gotta do.
• 3:11:18
  Speaker 1: Let's go. It's look, they have eleven get a room
• 3:11:21
  Speaker 1: at the Renaissance. They have eleven more picks to go.
• 3:11:25
  Speaker 1: They don't need to pick eleven guys. They already have
• 3:11:28
  Speaker 1: seven with Christian Gonzalez. They already have seventy six guys
• 3:11:30
  Speaker 1: on the roster on a ninety man roster. They're gonna
• 3:11:32
  Speaker 1: have some DFAs in here. We know that. So what
• 3:11:36
  Speaker 1: are you? What are you doing with all these picks?
• 3:11:37
  Speaker 1: Mc go make a trade god of aggressive zay flowers
• 3:11:40
  Speaker 1: if you really do like them as much as we
• 3:11:42
  Speaker 1: all think you do. Are He's still sitting right there,
• 3:11:45
  Speaker 1: Za Zake, I talk about it night, do it. I'm gonna,
• 3:11:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I am gonna listen in. They're gonna they're
• 3:11:51
  Speaker 1: setting up a bress conference now with Christian Gonzalez. So
• 3:11:53
  Speaker 1: I'll listen in on that while we're while we're here
• 3:11:55
  Speaker 1: on the airand OK, relay any good bits, all right?
• 3:11:59
  Speaker 1: He does remind me a lot of a Steph Gilmore
• 3:12:01
  Speaker 1: type of our very qui A confidence. It sounds obvious,
• 3:12:05
  Speaker 1: but I mean we just talked about on the video
• 3:12:07
  Speaker 1: head It's like, you got this kid for four years
• 3:12:09
  Speaker 1: plus plus a fifth year option too, you know, at
• 3:12:11
  Speaker 1: that rookie salary. So it's just it's it's a key position.
• 3:12:15
  Speaker 1: And if he works out and he is the guy
• 3:12:16
  Speaker 1: that people think he's going to be, uh, it could
• 3:12:19
  Speaker 1: really have the chance to be a slam dunk and
• 3:12:21
  Speaker 1: just the player you need to compete with Digs and
• 3:12:25
  Speaker 1: Tuah and Tyreek and all these guys waddle. I mean,
• 3:12:28
  Speaker 1: it's just it's so tough. I mean, look at the
• 3:12:31
  Speaker 1: Jets to Aaron Rodgers. I mean, you need this kid
• 3:12:33
  Speaker 1: more now than you did three days ago since he
• 3:12:35
  Speaker 1: arrived in New York. So it's we talked about that
• 3:12:38
  Speaker 1: the other day, right of what would Belichick, dude, not
• 3:12:41
  Speaker 1: necessarily to overreact to Aaron Rodgers now being in the division,
• 3:12:44
  Speaker 1: but just respond Would he take a receiver or a
• 3:12:47
  Speaker 1: tackle and try to compete on the scoreboard, or would
• 3:12:50
  Speaker 1: he take a defensive stud and try to shut him down?
• 3:12:53
  Speaker 1: And it seems like they're gonna try to shut him down,
• 3:12:55
  Speaker 1: but you know, that's interesting. And you know who knows
• 3:12:58
  Speaker 1: like what he's really thinking. He is that defensive minded coach.
• 3:13:02
  Speaker 1: You know, we'll beat him with defense. Yeah, you know,
• 3:13:05
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think it's fair to say, though,
• 3:13:06
  Speaker 1: if this was a wide receiver class like you'd seen
• 3:13:09
  Speaker 1: in previous years, that it might not necessarily have crossed out.
• 3:13:13
  Speaker 1: You know, I had they had a chance for say
• 3:13:15
  Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle you know, versus Gonzalez, would they I don't know.
• 3:13:19
  Speaker 1: So this, uh, the Celtics, Celtics. Celtics are going on
• 3:13:23
  Speaker 1: like a ten ho run now to close out the Hawks.
• 3:13:25
  Speaker 1: So it's about time. It's about okay, good, at least
• 3:13:29
  Speaker 1: we have one team that closed it out. Jesus well,
• 3:13:33
  Speaker 1: I dropped. They're up eight with two minutes left, like
• 3:13:35
  Speaker 1: it might just like a month ago, that this is,
• 3:13:37
  Speaker 1: that this was going to happen here tonight. Would either
• 3:13:40
  Speaker 1: of us believe each other? No? I mean, it's just
• 3:13:43
  Speaker 1: it's one of those players that you're so impressed by
• 3:13:46
  Speaker 1: that you're just you don't really allow yourself. Well, the
• 3:13:48
  Speaker 1: other thing is if we're not really used like I know,
• 3:13:50
  Speaker 1: we we had fifteen, that's how we got Mac. But
• 3:13:54
  Speaker 1: we're not really used to having such high picks. Yeah,
• 3:13:56
  Speaker 1: for you know, like you can you can actually get
• 3:14:00
  Speaker 1: guys that you like. That's a good point. It's it's
• 3:14:02
  Speaker 1: it's easier to have a guy slipped to you at fourteen,
• 3:14:06
  Speaker 1: right than the normal twenty two. Yeah, you know right,
• 3:14:08
  Speaker 1: And and you know, I don't honestly care about if
• 3:14:11
  Speaker 1: our mock drafts and big boards are correct, but it's
• 3:14:14
  Speaker 1: such a high pick that it should be somebody that
• 3:14:16
  Speaker 1: was off our mock drafts and big more. Particularly when
• 3:14:19
  Speaker 1: three of the our quarterbacks that go, you know right
• 3:14:21
  Speaker 1: now you're there's you know, eleven guys that you have
• 3:14:24
  Speaker 1: the pick, and they're all right, Evan am gonna be upsets?
• 3:14:30
  Speaker 1: Did they? My heart is crushed? Oh listen, I'm gonna
• 3:14:35
  Speaker 1: give him another stick town. I mean the run on
• 3:14:38
  Speaker 1: receivers is now three. That's a run. I'm not crying.
• 3:14:43
  Speaker 1: They're not tears. It's just dusty. It's raining inside. Hey, hey,
• 3:14:48
  Speaker 1: don't be sad that it's over. Be happy that you
• 3:14:50
  Speaker 1: had a few months to imagine. They're up ten. Marcus
• 3:14:53
  Speaker 1: Smart is asserting himself, but also think about the ravens
• 3:14:57
  Speaker 1: now so you got Lamar Jackson resigned energize. You got
• 3:15:02
  Speaker 1: you still got your tight end. You know you've got
• 3:15:05
  Speaker 1: You've got you know Odell. Now now you've got Za Flowers.
• 3:15:09
  Speaker 1: They could be like the Patriots drafted Christian Gonzalez, because
• 3:15:13
  Speaker 1: how everybody's got receivers except you. We're putting it all
• 3:15:16
  Speaker 1: on a rookie to stop like all this firepower, the
• 3:15:19
  Speaker 1: negative guy before the night. So now I'm a little scared. Paul,
• 3:15:22
  Speaker 1: you know that that was a dagger to the heart
• 3:15:24
  Speaker 1: I was. I was starting to sell myself on the
• 3:15:26
  Speaker 1: dream Lazarre draft of maybe Za Flowers falling far enough
• 3:15:30
  Speaker 1: towards forty six that they could actually make the move,
• 3:15:33
  Speaker 1: the trade up for him. But I'm gonna pivot because
• 3:15:36
  Speaker 1: that's what we have at Josh Downs from unc is
• 3:15:41
  Speaker 1: top of the second round. Za Flowers a very similar
• 3:15:43
  Speaker 1: type of player that can get open at all three
• 3:15:47
  Speaker 1: levels of the defense. A little bit of a yak guy.
• 3:15:49
  Speaker 1: Not quite as explosive as a I don't think, but
• 3:15:52
  Speaker 1: there's still receivers. As my point, Jordan Addison, I think
• 3:15:54
  Speaker 1: is going to go to Minnesota quite frankly. But if
• 3:15:56
  Speaker 1: they end up pivoting to a quarterback here and they don't,
• 3:15:59
  Speaker 1: then he's still kind of falling a little bit. So
• 3:16:02
  Speaker 1: there's still a couple of receivers hanging on the Baltimore
• 3:16:04
  Speaker 1: Ravens select they flower. Not even this can bring Evan down.
• 3:16:12
  Speaker 1: Right now, I'm just the Patriots drafted Christian Zas the
• 3:16:17
  Speaker 1: Celtics are about to close out the Hawks, and I'm
• 3:16:19
  Speaker 1: crying because they flowers. I asked this question to Paul,
• 3:16:22
  Speaker 1: and the NHL series are all getting extended right the way.
• 3:16:26
  Speaker 1: Should be a great night. I asked this question to
• 3:16:28
  Speaker 1: Paul Evan before you got back, when you induced you're
• 3:16:31
  Speaker 1: doing your more important stuff, and I'll ask this to
• 3:16:33
  Speaker 1: both of you. Do you think this second round talent
• 3:16:36
  Speaker 1: is above average second round talent or is it about
• 3:16:39
  Speaker 1: the same as I would I don't know. I think
• 3:16:42
  Speaker 1: probably about the same. I guess it was pretty much exected.
• 3:16:45
  Speaker 1: It's hard to say. I don't know, it's hard to say.
• 3:16:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I look at everything through the Patriots prism,
• 3:16:50
  Speaker 1: right so, I mean in terms of what they need
• 3:16:52
  Speaker 1: now what I say, you know, I think they can
• 3:16:54
  Speaker 1: probably get a date, you know, a slot receiver. There's
• 3:16:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's not the exciting names it's going to be,
• 3:16:59
  Speaker 1: you know, one of those guys that's kind of limited. Probably, Um,
• 3:17:02
  Speaker 1: I won't be surprised if they go defense again. I
• 3:17:04
  Speaker 1: think there's tackles to be had. You know, there's there's
• 3:17:06
  Speaker 1: gonna be guys. You know, Matthew berger I was literally
• 3:17:10
  Speaker 1: just about to say Matthew Bergier on a lot of
• 3:17:12
  Speaker 1: the people in the league really thought that he might
• 3:17:15
  Speaker 1: sneak into the first round, so we might hear his
• 3:17:16
  Speaker 1: name called before the end of the night. He's one
• 3:17:20
  Speaker 1: of those guys that's basically Scarnsky, but was projected to
• 3:17:23
  Speaker 1: go a little bit later, you know, probably a guard,
• 3:17:26
  Speaker 1: but could probably play tackles a little longer than Scarronsky,
• 3:17:28
  Speaker 1: So I think you could actually stick at tackle. This
• 3:17:31
  Speaker 1: is just killing me. I just can't even z Flowers
• 3:17:34
  Speaker 1: to commit. Ah, it was all a dream. Yeah, Oh
• 3:17:40
  Speaker 1: that's too bad. Well, just a little update. So Ki
• 3:17:42
  Speaker 1: Christien zalaz here is speaking with the New England media
• 3:17:44
  Speaker 1: right now, and I think he's uh, he's already got
• 3:17:46
  Speaker 1: it down. He's not a man in any words, quiet specific,
• 3:17:49
  Speaker 1: gets to the point, gets out, so uh. He seems
• 3:17:52
  Speaker 1: like he's very excited and hopefully we'll see him tomorrow
• 3:17:55
  Speaker 1: down here on the field. I know he was one
• 3:17:56
  Speaker 1: of the guys traveling to Kansas City, so yeah, hopefully
• 3:17:59
  Speaker 1: we'll have all of our boy Chris Gogolos with him
• 3:18:01
  Speaker 1: and we'll be recording all this and everything. So it's
• 3:18:03
  Speaker 1: where plan is, and you know, plans don't always work
• 3:18:06
  Speaker 1: the way you want, but we're gonna be with him
• 3:18:08
  Speaker 1: from now until he gets here tomorrow, so we'll have
• 3:18:12
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes him on the plane getting here or
• 3:18:16
  Speaker 1: going into Logan assuming that's where they fly into, and
• 3:18:21
  Speaker 1: on the you know car getting here, so we'll be
• 3:18:24
  Speaker 1: with him every step of the way. So that'll be
• 3:18:25
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's really like one of my favorite parts
• 3:18:29
  Speaker 1: of this job. I mean, just the something I had
• 3:18:31
  Speaker 1: never done before I got here was going down there
• 3:18:33
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones was the first one I got to do.
• 3:18:35
  Speaker 1: We got to do cool, strange, but just such a
• 3:18:36
  Speaker 1: cool kind of moment down there on the field with
• 3:18:38
  Speaker 1: the crafts and you know, got the big video board
• 3:18:40
  Speaker 1: here getting ready to be unveiled, and the new lighthouse
• 3:18:43
  Speaker 1: and everything. So it's it's a cool time and I
• 3:18:45
  Speaker 1: think there'll be some really good energy down there on
• 3:18:48
  Speaker 1: the field tomorrow just from everybody that sees this, as
• 3:18:50
  Speaker 1: you know, just a really solid pick. Well, we'll try
• 3:18:52
  Speaker 1: to get him into the PUS studio tomorrow. We'll tape
• 3:18:56
  Speaker 1: an interview with him that we'll play. And you know,
• 3:18:59
  Speaker 1: that's one guy and they're not gonna let me do this, fread,
• 3:19:01
  Speaker 1: but maybe we can ask. This is one guy that
• 3:19:03
  Speaker 1: I would love to watch Oregon film with because their
• 3:19:06
  Speaker 1: coverage system is really complex and sometimes quite frankly, I
• 3:19:10
  Speaker 1: have no clue if this is like, if I'm reading
• 3:19:13
  Speaker 1: it right right, if I'm you know, where exactly where
• 3:19:15
  Speaker 1: he's supposed to be going. And he's just such a
• 3:19:17
  Speaker 1: heady player on film that always seems to be looking
• 3:19:21
  Speaker 1: for work in zone right, He's never covering grass. You
• 3:19:23
  Speaker 1: don't want guys in zone coverage to just be covering
• 3:19:26
  Speaker 1: an area of the field and there's nobody around them
• 3:19:28
  Speaker 1: and they're just sitting there doing nothing. He's somebody that
• 3:19:31
  Speaker 1: goes and seeks out guys and make sure that he
• 3:19:33
  Speaker 1: is in assignment sound type places. And I just really
• 3:19:38
  Speaker 1: would be fascinated to get inside of his mindset. I know,
• 3:19:40
  Speaker 1: once Gilmore really started to turn it on here, he
• 3:19:43
  Speaker 1: was more open with those types of conversations. Well, he
• 3:19:46
  Speaker 1: had trouble with zone, right, yeah, he did. Yeah. Interesting though,
• 3:19:52
  Speaker 1: someone just to point out that he just mentioned they
• 3:19:53
  Speaker 1: asked him about Andrew Kellahan asked him about playing with
• 3:19:56
  Speaker 1: Adrian Clem. Obviously Adrian Clem coach in the old line,
• 3:19:58
  Speaker 1: but you know that there is another connection that we
• 3:20:01
  Speaker 1: have to him and to the Oregans. That's true. Let's
• 3:20:05
  Speaker 1: go back to the phones. Uh, some more reaction from
• 3:20:08
  Speaker 1: our listeners. We'll go to Robert and Oklahoma. What's up Robert? Hey,
• 3:20:14
  Speaker 1: how's it going? Guys? All right, So I've been listening
• 3:20:18
  Speaker 1: to y'all since probably last offseason, and I just want
• 3:20:21
  Speaker 1: to say you guys are great. Thank you. Um. I
• 3:20:24
  Speaker 1: called the trade to the Steelers. I sent it in
• 3:20:27
  Speaker 1: an email. Nobody was able to see it. But I'm
• 3:20:30
  Speaker 1: so excited that Christian Dobsalls is coming. I did not
• 3:20:33
  Speaker 1: expect him to be here for pick seventeen, but that's incredible.
• 3:20:39
  Speaker 1: My heart was just broken with a Flowers going to
• 3:20:41
  Speaker 1: ball with the morning. I know. But what do y'all?
• 3:20:44
  Speaker 1: What do y'all see with our next pick? Because I
• 3:20:46
  Speaker 1: was thinking tackle, but I really don't see us see
• 3:20:50
  Speaker 1: anyone worth that second round pick for the tackle. I
• 3:20:52
  Speaker 1: was thinking maybe Blake Freeland in the third round. Yeah, yeah,
• 3:20:56
  Speaker 1: it's yeah. I'm with you on this one. I think
• 3:20:59
  Speaker 1: remember last year at corner, they take Marcus Jones and
• 3:21:02
  Speaker 1: Jack Jones at their third and fourth round picks. With
• 3:21:05
  Speaker 1: all these picks now that they have in the third
• 3:21:07
  Speaker 1: and fourth round, I wouldn't mind them doing that at tackle.
• 3:21:10
  Speaker 1: Just take two guys that you like and hopefully one
• 3:21:12
  Speaker 1: of them ends up hitting them being a good football
• 3:21:14
  Speaker 1: player for you and a starter. What I would like
• 3:21:16
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  Speaker 1: the call. Let's see we got John and Dallas. What's up? John?
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  Speaker 1: Hey fellows. First of all, I mean Christian Gonzalez a
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  Speaker 1: I mean two things to be super happy about. The
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  Speaker 1: And I'll take it off the air, keep up the
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  Speaker 1: into the first round. Four I mean Harrison, I would
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  Speaker 1: say Bergeron maybe I viewed Anton Harrison as a guy
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  Speaker 1: Dawan Jones, but he's a right tackle certainly not a
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  Speaker 1: out there, I think Matthew Bergeron is just too much
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  Speaker 1: kind of that classic Patriot. So I would say Matthew
• 3:23:22
  Speaker 1: Bergeron is another one of those guys. But I think
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• 3:23:33
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• 3:23:39
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  Speaker 1: Mike that are later on in the draft. They're not
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  Speaker 1: reaching on that that guy this year, right, they're not
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  Speaker 1: taking you know, a Nick Saldivari in the first round
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• 3:23:53
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• 3:24:00
  Speaker 1: bit adam. That's it. Jordan Addison Minnesota, Oh well, don't
• 3:24:07
  Speaker 1: get Josh downs. That's that's what. Yeah. I like. I
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  Speaker 1: guy that's quick inside you you know. I love Charlie Jones.
• 3:24:16
  Speaker 1: I think he's more like a third or fourth round guy. Yeah,
• 3:24:18
  Speaker 1: these are yeah. Mingo, Jonathan Mingo. If they wanted that
• 3:24:20
  Speaker 1: big outside receiver, maybe looking you know, DeVante Parker. I
• 3:24:24
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna be in the fold, how
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  Speaker 1: long he's gonna be here for after this season? Mingo
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  Speaker 1: has got that size, speed six to one to twenty two,
• 3:24:32
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  Speaker 1: he's built and runs like a J. Brown, not as
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  Speaker 1: good as a J. Brown. Look at the Vikings war room,
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  Speaker 1: look at him. What is like a clue? Another one
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  Speaker 1: was thirty plus Okay, And then you gotta get with them,
• 3:24:48
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• 3:24:52
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• 3:24:55
  Speaker 1: were going to take Jordan Addison with this pick, and
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  Speaker 1: they still got Jordan Addison with the pick. So I'd
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  Speaker 1: be excited to I'm not like making fun of them
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  Speaker 1: from being happy with who they picked. It's the over
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  Speaker 1: the top production with like but they're acting like their
• 3:25:11
  Speaker 1: surprise they got them. You know, they may probably listen,
• 3:25:14
  Speaker 1: they told the whole world that they were gonna I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you can't be sure at like twenty three you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get the guy you want. There was Bryce young to
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  Speaker 1: to the Minnesota. I just think that like the history
• 3:25:27
  Speaker 1: on its like I think on Saturday, Yeah, we got
• 3:25:37
  Speaker 1: and you know like a lot of them, you know
• 3:25:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of them like like pumped up like earlier,
• 3:25:42
  Speaker 1: like they got they lifted just before fourth round. If
• 3:25:48
  Speaker 1: we all get up from the table and man, hug,
• 3:25:51
  Speaker 1: yeah we do we gotta throw it got almost day
• 3:25:54
  Speaker 1: when they picked. We were walking up to upstairs and
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  Speaker 1: I said, should be high five Jaguars took Anton Harrison
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  Speaker 1: and that is okay, all right there it is so
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  Speaker 1: another tackle off the board and when did the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: The Giants just traded up. John traded up to twenty four?
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  Speaker 1: When did the Jaguars or twenty four? So they moved
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  Speaker 1: up one. Celtics advanced Celtics in one twenty right, Okay,
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• 3:26:34
  Speaker 1: I like the pink suit though, what is his h
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• 3:26:39
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  Speaker 1: stuff that you don't really want to bring up with
• 3:26:42
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• 3:26:49
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• 3:26:51
  Speaker 1: a knock on will Levis was that Peyton Manning thing
• 3:26:55
  Speaker 1: that he did with the rookies. Yeah, and you know,
• 3:26:57
  Speaker 1: the Mannings were in the room and all the rookies
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  Speaker 1: got to ask him questions in the They're all asking
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  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning said, hey, look, I've done my share of commercials,
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  Speaker 1: like that shouldn't be the thing on your mind. And
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people point at that and say, this guy,
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  Speaker 1: he's not thinking, right, he's not thinking. I go back.
• 3:27:29
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  Speaker 1: he said that Peyton Manning told them on his way
• 3:27:37
  Speaker 1: out of the meeting, he said, if you guys draft me,
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  Speaker 1: I will be in Indianapolis the next day. And Bill
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  Speaker 1: Polian said, we can't work out. You can't work out yet.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's definitely something like the little loose cannony
• 3:28:07
  Speaker 1: about Will Levis was just like the sons out guns
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  Speaker 1: out at the combine and I've got a cannon and
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  Speaker 1: then the video and I was just, I don't know,
• 3:28:15
  Speaker 1: it's probably not the stuff you want to canon made
• 3:28:18
  Speaker 1: me laugh and everything, but that that was one I like.
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• 3:28:23
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  Speaker 1: around for the next decade. You know, there's just a
• 3:28:29
  Speaker 1: couple of red flags. They're like the Giants are on
• 3:28:34
  Speaker 1: the clock, not the Jaguars. Jaguars they traded, but someone
• 3:28:38
  Speaker 1: already reported who the jaguash are taking. Well, that's why
• 3:28:42
  Speaker 1: I was asked, was that erroneous? Maybe it's erroneous. Maybe
• 3:28:46
  Speaker 1: maybe the Giants are taking that player and they just
• 3:28:48
  Speaker 1: had could I could be had the slot right, but
• 3:28:51
  Speaker 1: they had that could be Yeah, that's a mistake, all right.
• 3:28:55
  Speaker 1: That happened last year at the Patriots. They did Mike
• 3:28:59
  Speaker 1: Silver tweeted that they took Trent McDuffie Mike's Silver, but
• 3:29:02
  Speaker 1: they actually traded out in city took Trent mcduffy. Yeah,
• 3:29:05
  Speaker 1: so that's that's where you find out. Oh McDuffie has
• 3:29:08
  Speaker 1: been drafted. Whose turn is it? Oh it's the Patriots
• 3:29:11
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• 3:29:16
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  Speaker 1: Draft Party, Patriots Unfiltered. We're gonna ride this thing out
• 3:38:17
  Speaker 1: till the end of the first round. The Patriots have
• 3:38:20
  Speaker 1: taken Christian Gonzales. So that's a pick that it seems
• 3:38:23
  Speaker 1: everybody is elated about. They traded down to do it
• 3:38:27
  Speaker 1: a few uh selections and still got their guy. Um.
• 3:38:33
  Speaker 1: While we were um at break, the Bills took a
• 3:38:39
  Speaker 1: tight end, Yeah a Dalton Kincaid. Yeah, the Bills took
• 3:38:42
  Speaker 1: a slot receiver. Yeah, that's Dalton Kincaid. Is not blocking anybody,
• 3:38:46
  Speaker 1: but he's one of the better interior receivers in the draft.
• 3:38:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's like one of the conversations we had
• 3:38:50
  Speaker 1: because at the break we're going to break, Evan mentioned,
• 3:38:53
  Speaker 1: you know, Josh Downs, who's probably that next level of
• 3:38:55
  Speaker 1: receiver that's available in the slot. And I think it
• 3:38:58
  Speaker 1: was a question we kind of debated of like instead
• 3:39:00
  Speaker 1: of maybe reaching on a receiver. Would it just makes
• 3:39:03
  Speaker 1: sense to get one of these receiving tight ends that. Yeah, No,
• 3:39:06
  Speaker 1: you're probably not going to ask Kincaid to be an
• 3:39:07
  Speaker 1: inline blocker consistently, but he's going to probably change the
• 3:39:11
  Speaker 1: game for the Bills somewhat unfortunately in the middle of
• 3:39:14
  Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, they wanted a guy that could control
• 3:39:16
  Speaker 1: the middle of the field, and they got it with
• 3:39:18
  Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid. Different, obviously, like Mike was saying, than Josh Downs,
• 3:39:21
  Speaker 1: but it's the same idea, yeah, just a different type
• 3:39:24
  Speaker 1: of way of doing it. I personally like Sam Laporter
• 3:39:26
  Speaker 1: from Iowa a little bit better than Dalon Kinkaid, Just
• 3:39:29
  Speaker 1: think he's a little bit more explosive after the catch.
• 3:39:31
  Speaker 1: But Kincaid is definitely one of those guys that especially
• 3:39:35
  Speaker 1: finding soft spots and zone coverage and just making himself
• 3:39:38
  Speaker 1: available to the quarterback. They feel like he's going to
• 3:39:41
  Speaker 1: be that chain mover and then let's define Diggs go
• 3:39:43
  Speaker 1: and make the big play. So you like him better
• 3:39:45
  Speaker 1: than Meyer from Notre Dame. Now I admire is my
• 3:39:48
  Speaker 1: first tight end, but Meyer is a well rounded TJ. Hawkinson,
• 3:39:53
  Speaker 1: Jason Witton ceiling, you know, not necessarily as flashy as
• 3:39:56
  Speaker 1: a receiver as a guy like King Kaid. So if
• 3:39:59
  Speaker 1: they truly Buffalo, Buffalo is not interested in running the football,
• 3:40:03
  Speaker 1: Like they just don't care about running the football. I
• 3:40:05
  Speaker 1: think that's pretty clear. Uh, they really wanted a guy
• 3:40:08
  Speaker 1: that was going to catch passes, and and k Kaid's
• 3:40:10
  Speaker 1: a better pass catcher than than Mayor. I don't think
• 3:40:13
  Speaker 1: that's arguable. All right, Well, the six more picks left
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  Speaker 1: in the first round. Um, we wait for the Cowboys
• 3:40:20
  Speaker 1: to make the pick, and I'm sure they will get
• 3:40:22
  Speaker 1: their guy. Um. Yeah, let's go to John in La.
• 3:40:26
  Speaker 1: What's up, John? Pretty I need to uh Bill needed
• 3:40:33
  Speaker 1: to collect talent. Talent collected. Okay, we got one guy collected.
• 3:40:39
  Speaker 1: Love it. We got one great job guy. All right,
• 3:40:42
  Speaker 1: love that show? All right, thanks John, John, just wanting
• 3:40:45
  Speaker 1: to weigh in on that. Yeah, I mean, look, there's
• 3:40:48
  Speaker 1: still some some real talent still on this board. Joey
• 3:40:50
  Speaker 1: Porter Junior has not been drafted. Not that they're gonna
• 3:40:52
  Speaker 1: take another corner, but you know, there's still some real
• 3:40:55
  Speaker 1: talent still on the board. Michael Mayer. We just mentioned
• 3:40:57
  Speaker 1: Nolan Smith from Georgia. Brian Branch, Bama, Miles Murphy everybody's Darling,
• 3:41:03
  Speaker 1: Darnell Washington, Josh Downs, I've talked about a little bit.
• 3:41:06
  Speaker 1: So the board is still has some really good football
• 3:41:09
  Speaker 1: players out there that can really help the team. Like
• 3:41:11
  Speaker 1: I said earlier, I don't know about you, guys, but
• 3:41:14
  Speaker 1: go and get somebody that can help the offense. Now, Yeah,
• 3:41:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's got to be one of the past
• 3:41:18
  Speaker 1: catchers because you kind of missed the tackles. I would say,
• 3:41:22
  Speaker 1: besides maybe Dawan Jones from Ohio State if you want
• 3:41:26
  Speaker 1: to go that direction. But in general, I think you're
• 3:41:28
  Speaker 1: now looking at tackle as being more of that third
• 3:41:31
  Speaker 1: and fourth round, maybe double dipping and getting two guys
• 3:41:33
  Speaker 1: and hoping that cast the wide net and one of
• 3:41:36
  Speaker 1: them hits. Yeah, Kevin's in San Francisco. What's up, Kevin? Hey, guys,
• 3:41:41
  Speaker 1: are you doing good? Great show tonight. I'm laughing my
• 3:41:47
  Speaker 1: ass off with Fred not knowing what the pits were
• 3:41:50
  Speaker 1: going on. Seriously, I had a I got I got
• 3:41:57
  Speaker 1: very low when they traded back, I got high when
• 3:42:00
  Speaker 1: they pick Gonzalez, and then I got very low when
• 3:42:03
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers went to the Ravens, my host team. Yeah,
• 3:42:06
  Speaker 1: So anyway, well we'll live. We'll live. With what we got.
• 3:42:12
  Speaker 1: Good pick and great show, guys. Keep it up and
• 3:42:15
  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens over the weekend. Thanks Kevin, Kevin
• 3:42:18
  Speaker 1: and San Francisco Kevin. Yeah, I told myself that I
• 3:42:21
  Speaker 1: was going to be happy with them for taking Christian Gonzalez.
• 3:42:23
  Speaker 1: But Za Flower is going to Baltimore. Hit me right
• 3:42:25
  Speaker 1: in the field, so I'm not gonna lie. That was
• 3:42:27
  Speaker 1: That was tough to swallow. David's in New York. What's
• 3:42:30
  Speaker 1: up David? Hey, guys, that's it going good. I am
• 3:42:38
  Speaker 1: really excited about the Gonzalez pick. I didn't think he'd
• 3:42:41
  Speaker 1: make it out of the top ten, to be honest,
• 3:42:43
  Speaker 1: but I part of me think is this is too
• 3:42:47
  Speaker 1: good to be true. There's some sort of injury or
• 3:42:49
  Speaker 1: something that we don't know about or something like that. Wow,
• 3:42:53
  Speaker 1: that's wow. What are we doing better? Yeah? No, okay,
• 3:42:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't know we were. We were wowing
• 3:43:01
  Speaker 1: about your pessimism. What happened? I lost gone, I didn't
• 3:43:08
  Speaker 1: do that. Hello. I think it's a for people to ask, yeah,
• 3:43:11
  Speaker 1: why why why did he fall to seventeen? I think
• 3:43:15
  Speaker 1: the two biggest things for I don't know anything outside
• 3:43:17
  Speaker 1: the lines, like I have no idea. I think one
• 3:43:20
  Speaker 1: thing that you look at with him is play strength.
• 3:43:23
  Speaker 1: I think is gonna be something that he's gonna have
• 3:43:25
  Speaker 1: to get in the weight room and start to add
• 3:43:27
  Speaker 1: some mask. Yeah, he's that looks like he's a built guy,
• 3:43:35
  Speaker 1: a big enough guy. But there are some receivers that
• 3:43:39
  Speaker 1: were able to kind of body him a little bit
• 3:43:42
  Speaker 1: or push him around just a tad. So I think
• 3:43:44
  Speaker 1: that that's one thing. And I mentioned it earlier when
• 3:43:46
  Speaker 1: he was during the you know, the process when he
• 3:43:49
  Speaker 1: was following that he doesn't have the on ball production
• 3:43:52
  Speaker 1: that some of these other guys did. He doesn't have
• 3:43:53
  Speaker 1: the interceptions at an Emmanuel Forbes or Devin Witherspoon, pass
• 3:43:57
  Speaker 1: breakups I and t s things like that. I didn't.
• 3:44:00
  Speaker 1: The question I just asked with that to myself was well,
• 3:44:03
  Speaker 1: were they throwing at him right? Maybe he's just taking
• 3:44:06
  Speaker 1: the guy off the field so often that they are
• 3:44:08
  Speaker 1: just not throwing his direction as much as the other guys.
• 3:44:10
  Speaker 1: But those are the two football things I think that
• 3:44:12
  Speaker 1: we're a little bit and Brugal had Christian Gozzalez is
• 3:44:15
  Speaker 1: his fifth ranked guy in his top one hundred, so
• 3:44:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, no, it's I mean and I think
• 3:44:21
  Speaker 1: there will be probably some conversation about that. I mean,
• 3:44:23
  Speaker 1: I am I'm surprised that that Forbes went over into him.
• 3:44:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, Forbes's ball production is just insane. But as
• 3:44:31
  Speaker 1: we talked about, he's a big, skinny guy. I mean,
• 3:44:33
  Speaker 1: I just think he's a specific type and he never
• 3:44:35
  Speaker 1: really to me fit that box of the Patriots. I
• 3:44:38
  Speaker 1: feel like they want corners who can tackle. And that's
• 3:44:41
  Speaker 1: what stood up about Witherspoon. You know, Witherspoon has no
• 3:44:44
  Speaker 1: qualms about coming up and you know, popping a running
• 3:44:46
  Speaker 1: back off the edge or whatever. So I was a
• 3:44:49
  Speaker 1: little bit surprised that he was the third one. But
• 3:44:51
  Speaker 1: I still think that he's right there with all those guys.
• 3:44:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure we'll see how Forbes works
• 3:44:56
  Speaker 1: out in that system, but I just think given what
• 3:44:59
  Speaker 1: the Patriots need, what he can do. And you know, again,
• 3:45:02
  Speaker 1: I think he's real young too. I gotta look exactly
• 3:45:05
  Speaker 1: what he's twenty years old. So it was only twenty.
• 3:45:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he'll be twenty one soon in June.
• 3:45:10
  Speaker 1: But but you still got him. You can't even drink yet.
• 3:45:12
  Speaker 1: They didn't even celebrate with a beer, right now, That's
• 3:45:15
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about. So you know, that's and as
• 3:45:17
  Speaker 1: I said, I mean, you're talking you're gonna have him
• 3:45:19
  Speaker 1: till he's twenty six if you want him. You know,
• 3:45:21
  Speaker 1: if it all works out, he's here till he's twenty six,
• 3:45:23
  Speaker 1: and he's still going to be in the prime of
• 3:45:24
  Speaker 1: his career. So Uham, I'm sure that they considered something
• 3:45:30
  Speaker 1: that they you talk about a lot is breakout age.
• 3:45:33
  Speaker 1: At what age did this player hit his peak in college?
• 3:45:36
  Speaker 1: Because the younger the breakout age, the more potential the
• 3:45:39
  Speaker 1: guy probably has in the league because they're still developing
• 3:45:42
  Speaker 1: physically and they're already really good football players. So just
• 3:45:45
  Speaker 1: an example, a guy like Jabar Chase, he had was
• 3:45:49
  Speaker 1: a breakout player at like nineteen, and everybody was like, Okay,
• 3:45:53
  Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be an absolute game record. So I
• 3:45:55
  Speaker 1: pulled up Gonzalez's PFF charting and he only had four
• 3:46:00
  Speaker 1: interceptions and six pass breakups last year, so not a
• 3:46:03
  Speaker 1: ton of on ball production, and two of his picks
• 3:46:06
  Speaker 1: came in the same game, so he really only had
• 3:46:09
  Speaker 1: he went what you know, twelve games with two interceptions,
• 3:46:13
  Speaker 1: and I think that's something that some of these teams
• 3:46:16
  Speaker 1: picking up early. You know guy like I keep going
• 3:46:18
  Speaker 1: back to Forbes just because he went to pick ahead
• 3:46:20
  Speaker 1: of him. Forbes had I think double the interceptions right yet,
• 3:46:25
  Speaker 1: so I also would just say, and I forget exactly
• 3:46:28
  Speaker 1: where Buffalo drafted Gilmore, but I mean you saw a
• 3:46:31
  Speaker 1: little bit of like say ten, he didn't really find
• 3:46:33
  Speaker 1: his stride, you know, I mean he got out of
• 3:46:34
  Speaker 1: Buffalo obviously, and I know, you know, coming here he
• 3:46:37
  Speaker 1: had a little bit of growing pains as as we
• 3:46:38
  Speaker 1: talked about with the switch into having to you know,
• 3:46:41
  Speaker 1: really kind of balance between man and his own But
• 3:46:43
  Speaker 1: you know, and then you saw him twenty nineteenies, you know,
• 3:46:45
  Speaker 1: the defensive player of the year. So you just hope
• 3:46:48
  Speaker 1: that Gonzalez can start to find that stride a little
• 3:46:51
  Speaker 1: earlier and that it's not you know, this this long
• 3:46:54
  Speaker 1: development process. But I still think that they have enough
• 3:46:57
  Speaker 1: depth in the secondary that, like we don't have to
• 3:46:59
  Speaker 1: go throw him out there a week one and go
• 3:47:02
  Speaker 1: take digs. You know that that would be something I
• 3:47:03
  Speaker 1: don't think will be a recipe. But but another thing
• 3:47:06
  Speaker 1: that I wrote too over the course of all this
• 3:47:08
  Speaker 1: thing was they they are really good at developing corners.
• 3:47:11
  Speaker 1: Like I just I think Mike Pellegrino, Brian Belichick, the
• 3:47:14
  Speaker 1: guys in the secondary. They've done a good job developing guys,
• 3:47:17
  Speaker 1: usually guys who are mid round picks that you don't
• 3:47:19
  Speaker 1: really have a lot of expectation for. So now it's
• 3:47:22
  Speaker 1: a question of that we haven't really seen this. What's
• 3:47:24
  Speaker 1: it look like when you get a kid who's loaded
• 3:47:27
  Speaker 1: with talent, who has sky high potential if he can
• 3:47:29
  Speaker 1: put it all together, and it's just you know, I mean,
• 3:47:32
  Speaker 1: he's just an elite athlete. That's you know, that's what
• 3:47:34
  Speaker 1: Gonzales is. Uh, if they can get his mental side
• 3:47:37
  Speaker 1: of the game and you know, plug him into their
• 3:47:40
  Speaker 1: match zone coverages so that you know, he's able to
• 3:47:42
  Speaker 1: quickly respond and come up and I mean just take
• 3:47:44
  Speaker 1: advantage of all the things that he can do. Uh,
• 3:47:46
  Speaker 1: It's it's exciting. I mean, and that's probably why you
• 3:47:49
  Speaker 1: can hear the excitement and our voices that if they can,
• 3:47:51
  Speaker 1: if it works, it's it's it's going to be a
• 3:47:53
  Speaker 1: slam dunk. Whereas I think last year and we're you know,
• 3:47:55
  Speaker 1: talking about cold strange, Well, if it's a slam dunk,
• 3:47:57
  Speaker 1: all right, they got they got a great guard like guy.
• 3:48:00
  Speaker 1: How much is that going to move the needle. But
• 3:48:02
  Speaker 1: if this kid works out, but yeah, it has to be.
• 3:48:08
  Speaker 1: It was no, it was, you know, to your point
• 3:48:10
  Speaker 1: about the other guys that they already have in the room.
• 3:48:13
  Speaker 1: But Jack Jones and Marcus Jones and even Kyle Dugger,
• 3:48:16
  Speaker 1: they already have guys in the secondary that pick the pass,
• 3:48:18
  Speaker 1: you know, pick off a lot of passes and make
• 3:48:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of plays and stick with your guy, and
• 3:48:22
  Speaker 1: that Van Christian Gonzalez is one of those guys like
• 3:48:25
  Speaker 1: a Stefan Gilmore, who's just gonna mirror and match guys
• 3:48:28
  Speaker 1: all over the field. Maybe he might not have ten
• 3:48:30
  Speaker 1: interceptions in the season, but he's not going to give
• 3:48:33
  Speaker 1: up very many plays to top fight talent. And those
• 3:48:36
  Speaker 1: other guys can go ahead now and those guys can
• 3:48:38
  Speaker 1: go ballhawk, and those guys can go make their plays
• 3:48:41
  Speaker 1: and and get the turnovers for the Patriots defense. Last
• 3:48:44
  Speaker 1: year also just some of the things that stood out
• 3:48:46
  Speaker 1: from his his PFF page here he only had two
• 3:48:49
  Speaker 1: penalties the entire year, and that that's tough when you
• 3:48:53
  Speaker 1: when you only have two penalties as a corner the
• 3:48:55
  Speaker 1: entire year, that tells me that you're playing under control. Right.
• 3:48:57
  Speaker 1: Everything just is smooth, and you're not jump and you're
• 3:49:00
  Speaker 1: not overreacting to things, and you're playing within yourself. So
• 3:49:03
  Speaker 1: I think that that's another really telltale sign that he's
• 3:49:07
  Speaker 1: got that athleticism, that he's never panicked. You know, guys
• 3:49:11
  Speaker 1: that get a lot of penalties, they panic and they
• 3:49:13
  Speaker 1: start tugging at people and they start grabbing things and
• 3:49:16
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. He's nothing like that. I just I'm
• 3:49:18
  Speaker 1: trying to think of a comp because I mean, I
• 3:49:21
  Speaker 1: guess Gilmore maybe just in terms of I just I'm
• 3:49:24
  Speaker 1: trying to think of a cornerback that just looks like
• 3:49:27
  Speaker 1: such an excellent excellence. So the guy that I compared
• 3:49:29
  Speaker 1: him too, because I did pro comparisons on my big
• 3:49:31
  Speaker 1: Boar was Patrick Surtan in Denver. I didn't love the game.
• 3:49:35
  Speaker 1: I thought about Gilmore because I think they're the same
• 3:49:38
  Speaker 1: similar size and speed and athleticism from an athletic profile standpoint.
• 3:49:42
  Speaker 1: But I think Gonzalez is coming in better in zone
• 3:49:44
  Speaker 1: than Gilmore was early on. I think he's somebody that
• 3:49:47
  Speaker 1: fits zone a little bit more than Gilmore did. I
• 3:49:50
  Speaker 1: compared him to Curtain because Curtan is so smooth too,
• 3:49:54
  Speaker 1: Like that guy just looks like an NFL cornerback. When
• 3:49:57
  Speaker 1: you watch him coming out, he just moved like an
• 3:50:00
  Speaker 1: NFL cbe really smooth. So I I that's what I
• 3:50:07
  Speaker 1: I will preface it with this, though, that's a lofty comparison.
• 3:50:10
  Speaker 1: Patrick Surtain is probably a top five, top three cornerback
• 3:50:13
  Speaker 1: in the NFL at this point. So I'm not sure
• 3:50:16
  Speaker 1: if Christian Gonzalez is gonna be that good. But when
• 3:50:18
  Speaker 1: I watched you know, Certain at Alabama coming out and
• 3:50:22
  Speaker 1: now Gonzalez at Oregon, I saw some similarities. Dallas has
• 3:50:26
  Speaker 1: taken Mazzie Smith defensive tackle out of Michigan. I saw
• 3:50:30
  Speaker 1: some people sort of tie the Patriots to him. Yeah,
• 3:50:33
  Speaker 1: well they had traded down, you know in this area,
• 3:50:36
  Speaker 1: not at fourteen if they had traded down, So the
• 3:50:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem Dallas Mazzie Smith. Remember that line that Nick
• 3:50:43
  Speaker 1: Saban had that Bill Belichick goes to the combine to
• 3:50:46
  Speaker 1: scout Butts. Yeah right, Mazzie Smith's got a big booty
• 3:50:53
  Speaker 1: and that guy is a two gapping nose tackle that
• 3:50:56
  Speaker 1: is not going to move an inch when you but
• 3:50:58
  Speaker 1: he's also athletic. He can move. Yeah, he's he's surprised.
• 3:51:01
  Speaker 1: He goes in around one though, like a nose tackle, Like,
• 3:51:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that he's somebody that I
• 3:51:05
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to play on third down.
• 3:51:07
  Speaker 1: He's gonna play on first and second down. I don't
• 3:51:09
  Speaker 1: know if he's gonna play on third down. He's got
• 3:51:12
  Speaker 1: really good upper body power and what I would just say,
• 3:51:15
  Speaker 1: explosiveness just to really stun guys and get box off
• 3:51:19
  Speaker 1: of him and play the run really effectively. It's an
• 3:51:22
  Speaker 1: interesting pick for Dallas though. They're usually one of those
• 3:51:24
  Speaker 1: teams that stick to premium positions and just go you know, coroners, receivers, tackles,
• 3:51:30
  Speaker 1: you know, they don't really take into your guys. Five
• 3:51:32
  Speaker 1: more picks than the Jaguars pick is in that's so
• 3:51:34
  Speaker 1: funny at twenty seven. This is bizarre to me. Why
• 3:51:38
  Speaker 1: Anton Harrison? Oh somehow this pick? So, now, I gotta
• 3:51:43
  Speaker 1: tell you, this is lending credence to your theory Fred
• 3:51:46
  Speaker 1: about they not all talk, yeah, and they all tell
• 3:51:49
  Speaker 1: everybody what they're doing. Yeah. So they were gonna take
• 3:51:51
  Speaker 1: him at twenty four and evidently they found out, well,
• 3:51:55
  Speaker 1: no one's taken him, so we're just gonna wait. I
• 3:51:58
  Speaker 1: don't know, yeah, Like I do wonder if there's like
• 3:52:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit of you don't want to be the
• 3:52:03
  Speaker 1: team that lied, right, right, that's true. So maybe there's
• 3:52:09
  Speaker 1: everybody kind of comes together and it is like, all right,
• 3:52:11
  Speaker 1: we're going we're all we know where we're all going for.
• 3:52:14
  Speaker 1: You know, who's your guy, who's my guy, and we
• 3:52:17
  Speaker 1: go from there. And if you end up if you
• 3:52:19
  Speaker 1: both ways lie to somebody like that, that comes back.
• 3:52:22
  Speaker 1: But I don't think you have to lie to not
• 3:52:24
  Speaker 1: necessarily want to tip your hand. Yeah, Like I I
• 3:52:28
  Speaker 1: think Evan's right. I think that you end up doing
• 3:52:30
  Speaker 1: more damage to yourself. Yeah, if you you flat out
• 3:52:33
  Speaker 1: dishonest about it. Yeah, But I don't know. I mean,
• 3:52:36
  Speaker 1: maybe there's more of the one suberfusion. Yeah, gotta play
• 3:52:41
  Speaker 1: the game. Tow Winder from Bay Areas on the line,
• 3:52:44
  Speaker 1: what's up, tow Winder? Hey? What do you mean? Guys? Hey? Hey,
• 3:52:48
  Speaker 1: I like it, like everybody was talking about, we like
• 3:52:50
  Speaker 1: to pay Christian Gonzales. I have a theory. I think
• 3:52:53
  Speaker 1: if we would have picked up fifteen and then Jed
• 3:52:56
  Speaker 1: would have picked up Jones from Georgia. Now with us
• 3:52:58
  Speaker 1: being created a couple of picks back, Jones went to
• 3:53:02
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and you blocked the Jets from getting Jones. That's
• 3:53:05
  Speaker 1: my theory. I was est note his baby, but you
• 3:53:08
  Speaker 1: know it's Pittsburgh blocked the Jets from getting right. But
• 3:53:11
  Speaker 1: he's saying, he's saying, no, I know what he's saying.
• 3:53:13
  Speaker 1: But Pittsburgh traded up because they wanted Jones. Yes, but
• 3:53:16
  Speaker 1: he's saying that the Patriot Jones. They didn't. I agree
• 3:53:21
  Speaker 1: to get Brodrick Jones. I agree with all that, but
• 3:53:24
  Speaker 1: they wanted but Pittsburgh had to want the guy. I
• 3:53:26
  Speaker 1: like this theory Chess not checkers. Baby like you did it.
• 3:53:31
  Speaker 1: You did it. I don't know how you did it,
• 3:53:33
  Speaker 1: but you did it. You you like, I mean, I mean,
• 3:53:38
  Speaker 1: I totally everything. Take the Jets guy. Everything Evan just said,
• 3:53:42
  Speaker 1: I agree with. I think the Jets would have taken
• 3:53:43
  Speaker 1: Broderick Jones. That's why Pittsburgh had to get in front
• 3:53:46
  Speaker 1: of the Jets, right, because that's the guy they wanted.
• 3:53:49
  Speaker 1: Yea love It's that. That's how that's how it works.
• 3:53:52
  Speaker 1: Just like if Buffalo wants Dalton Keene, I mean Dalton kincaide,
• 3:53:56
  Speaker 1: they clearly had to get up in front of Dallas,
• 3:53:58
  Speaker 1: who everybody thought wanted Dalton kincaide. That's how trades work.
• 3:54:02
  Speaker 1: The Patriots got the Steelers to take Roder Jones away
• 3:54:06
  Speaker 1: from the Jets, and the Jets drafted a two hundred
• 3:54:09
  Speaker 1: and thirty pound and so let's let's let's continue. This
• 3:54:18
  Speaker 1: is what is the guy? McDonald like? Two thirty eight
• 3:54:20
  Speaker 1: to forty? What is von Millerway? Yeah, okay, forty eight
• 3:54:24
  Speaker 1: Von Miller is von Miller. I'm just saying. So let's
• 3:54:27
  Speaker 1: not tell Taylorway. I don't. Let's not saying the guy
• 3:54:31
  Speaker 1: can't play because he's small. That's the size of athletic
• 3:54:34
  Speaker 1: edge defendant. Like, if he can't play, he can't play.
• 3:54:37
  Speaker 1: That's a whole different. And look, the Jets. The Jets
• 3:54:39
  Speaker 1: were in a position we talked about the Jets a
• 3:54:41
  Speaker 1: little bit that they could kind of do whatever, honestly,
• 3:54:44
  Speaker 1: because their roster is really good right now. So they
• 3:54:46
  Speaker 1: were in a position to draft a guy that might
• 3:54:49
  Speaker 1: be a situational player. But when I watched Will McDonald,
• 3:54:52
  Speaker 1: I thought, for the Patriots, this guy would be Josh
• 3:54:54
  Speaker 1: and he beyond the field forty to fifty percent of
• 3:54:56
  Speaker 1: the downs to come in and rush the passer. So
• 3:54:59
  Speaker 1: they they drafted a situational sub rusher and the first
• 3:55:03
  Speaker 1: and that could be true, and he could and if
• 3:55:05
  Speaker 1: he's good, that's fine. If he's not, it's you know,
• 3:55:08
  Speaker 1: obviously a disaster. And I like, that's a bad first
• 3:55:11
  Speaker 1: round pick, But I would also say that that's what
• 3:55:13
  Speaker 1: he would have been here with. The Jets might be
• 3:55:16
  Speaker 1: able to get a three down player out of him
• 3:55:18
  Speaker 1: because their system is a little bit different and ask
• 3:55:20
  Speaker 1: a little bit different things from their edge guys. The
• 3:55:22
  Speaker 1: Patriots edge guys have to set the edge. Like, if
• 3:55:24
  Speaker 1: you can't set the edge for Bill Belichick, you're not playing.
• 3:55:27
  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to pretend to know a lot
• 3:55:28
  Speaker 1: about him McDonald's because I don't. Um, I just you
• 3:55:32
  Speaker 1: know the whole Like he's two thirty eight, so he
• 3:55:34
  Speaker 1: can't play like yeah, I mean, I mean, just they're
• 3:55:37
  Speaker 1: not asking him to go out there and set the
• 3:55:39
  Speaker 1: edge on every running play, Like that's not what they're
• 3:55:41
  Speaker 1: gonna ask him to do. Now, he can play, Like
• 3:55:43
  Speaker 1: I said, he's got a lot of tools in his toolbox.
• 3:55:45
  Speaker 1: He's one of those edge rushers. He can spin, he
• 3:55:48
  Speaker 1: can stab, but he can duck under the edge. He
• 3:55:51
  Speaker 1: turned the corner. He's got four or five different counters
• 3:55:54
  Speaker 1: in his bag, so that those guys are tough to flock.
• 3:55:56
  Speaker 1: Do you think there's any like interesting kind of comparison
• 3:55:59
  Speaker 1: to be drawn between Tamiko Ryan's obviously he ran the
• 3:56:03
  Speaker 1: San Francisco defense, taking Will Anderson up at the top,
• 3:56:06
  Speaker 1: and then the guy before him is Robert Sala and
• 3:56:08
  Speaker 1: San Francisco ran that defense, and you know, kind of
• 3:56:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's no much, but I also
• 3:56:12
  Speaker 1: think that, you know, Jermaine Johnson, I seem to remember
• 3:56:14
  Speaker 1: him being a little bit more of a bigger, stouter guy.
• 3:56:16
  Speaker 1: So maybe it's a little bit of a balance too
• 3:56:18
  Speaker 1: for the Jets on between those two guys and you're
• 3:56:20
  Speaker 1: trying to find you hit on Sas Gardner and Garrett
• 3:56:23
  Speaker 1: Wilson in the last draft, and then you trade for
• 3:56:25
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. You can kind of take the guys that
• 3:56:28
  Speaker 1: maybe will only be fifty percent players. And I'll say too,
• 3:56:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, just continuing the theme, I mean, I like
• 3:56:33
  Speaker 1: the pick of Anton Harrison for the Jacks, you know,
• 3:56:35
  Speaker 1: I mean the team that's you know, got putting those
• 3:56:37
  Speaker 1: pieces together slowly, got no Trayvon Walker didn't quite blow
• 3:56:40
  Speaker 1: it up last year's face. What's the guy that got suspended, Yeah,
• 3:56:43
  Speaker 1: Cam Robin Robinson. So obviously you gotta you gotta take
• 3:56:48
  Speaker 1: these things. Bengals pick is in. Do we have a tip?
• 3:56:53
  Speaker 1: I have not seen one. No. I think Breer went
• 3:56:56
  Speaker 1: to Miles Murphy, Murphy Durphy. They did for a completely
• 3:57:03
  Speaker 1: unpredictable draft. There have been a lot of guys selected
• 3:57:07
  Speaker 1: in the exact areas that they were sort of mocked. Yeah, yeah,
• 3:57:10
  Speaker 1: I mean I would say I was definitely surprised that
• 3:57:13
  Speaker 1: Darnel Right was you know, was the second tackle off
• 3:57:16
  Speaker 1: the board. That was surprising to me. I mean, not
• 3:57:18
  Speaker 1: go crazy, but a little bit of a surprise. Gibbs
• 3:57:21
  Speaker 1: was a surprise, going as quick as he did. That
• 3:57:24
  Speaker 1: was a real surprise. Uh, that one, I mean the
• 3:57:27
  Speaker 1: woman donald one. I just I never was that high
• 3:57:29
  Speaker 1: on him to begin with, So I don't know, I
• 3:57:31
  Speaker 1: think other people probably had him. There was definitely some
• 3:57:37
  Speaker 1: buzz goming last week or so that the league really
• 3:57:41
  Speaker 1: really liked Darnel Right a lot, But I don't think
• 3:57:43
  Speaker 1: anybody saw him tent overall. How does the whole league
• 3:57:46
  Speaker 1: like him? Everybody? No one had a differing opinions. Chalk
• 3:57:53
  Speaker 1: Mike's in South Carolina what's up, Mike, how's it going, guys?
• 3:57:58
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on UM. Kind of bummed about
• 3:58:03
  Speaker 1: the Zay Flowers pick Zay Flowers going through the ravens Um.
• 3:58:07
  Speaker 1: I think that Patriots needs to do something dynamic on offense.
• 3:58:11
  Speaker 1: I know the draft's not over, I know it's this
• 3:58:13
  Speaker 1: night one, but I think it's a bummer that we've
• 3:58:17
  Speaker 1: now let Zay Flowers join with the re energized Lamar
• 3:58:23
  Speaker 1: Jackson and Odell Beckham in in Baltimore. So I think
• 3:58:27
  Speaker 1: that poses to be a problem for us in the future.
• 3:58:30
  Speaker 1: I think every offense right now poses to be a problem.
• 3:58:33
  Speaker 1: You know, it's we're we're looking up to the big
• 3:58:37
  Speaker 1: offenses in the league. Thanks Mike Miles. Yeah, it's it's
• 3:58:42
  Speaker 1: it's kind of tough right now because I mean, while
• 3:58:45
  Speaker 1: there are you know, a handful of receivers that you
• 3:58:48
  Speaker 1: still like, are there any really left that really truly
• 3:58:51
  Speaker 1: are going to move the needle day one? I mean
• 3:58:53
  Speaker 1: downs perhaps, but I think once those guys start to go,
• 3:58:57
  Speaker 1: it's gonna start getting You're developmental, You're cycle fifth receiver.
• 3:59:02
  Speaker 1: We gotta work it, but you're not going to get
• 3:59:03
  Speaker 1: what I think, you know, the last caller was, you know,
• 3:59:06
  Speaker 1: kind of getting at which was we need to get
• 3:59:07
  Speaker 1: an instant in flex of talent, which you know, I
• 3:59:10
  Speaker 1: would almost say, let's look at tight ends in the
• 3:59:12
  Speaker 1: second round, like, let's look at this coop and get
• 3:59:14
  Speaker 1: get the top of the tight ends rather than the seventh, eighth,
• 3:59:18
  Speaker 1: ninth receiver. Let's get two, three, four somewhere in there
• 3:59:21
  Speaker 1: of this tight end class and make that the you know,
• 3:59:24
  Speaker 1: somebody that you're expecting to come in and you know
• 3:59:25
  Speaker 1: at least chip in something. Yeah. I like Josh Downs
• 3:59:28
  Speaker 1: a lot. I think that he's got a lot of
• 3:59:29
  Speaker 1: the same traits as a Flowers. I don't think he's
• 3:59:31
  Speaker 1: as explosive after the catch as z is, but he
• 3:59:34
  Speaker 1: gets he gets open like Zay does in the middle
• 3:59:37
  Speaker 1: of the field and could control the middle of the field.
• 3:59:40
  Speaker 1: I really really love Sam Laporter from Iowa, and they
• 3:59:42
  Speaker 1: continue to bang the table for that. If they're looking
• 3:59:44
  Speaker 1: for quickness and a guy that can control the middle
• 3:59:47
  Speaker 1: of the field and be an inside presence, I think
• 3:59:50
  Speaker 1: he can definitely do that for you. And he gotta
• 3:59:52
  Speaker 1: mention Darnell Washington. I mean he's still sitting there as well,
• 3:59:55
  Speaker 1: and I think he'll be there tomorrow. So I think
• 3:59:58
  Speaker 1: any of those three guys personal would come in and
• 4:00:01
  Speaker 1: give that what that caller wants. Somebody that can come
• 4:00:04
  Speaker 1: in and make a difference as a pass catcher. Maybe
• 4:00:06
  Speaker 1: not at the levels that that that a j Cent
• 4:00:09
  Speaker 1: or is a Flowers would have, but still at a
• 4:00:12
  Speaker 1: pretty good rate. It's interesting what they do with like
• 4:00:14
  Speaker 1: Kisiki too. I mean, I like Hunter Henry. Those are
• 4:00:16
  Speaker 1: guys that are NFL players, and I mean I think
• 4:00:17
  Speaker 1: we're all intrigued by what Kisiki can do. How does
• 4:00:20
  Speaker 1: that change if they bring in one of those guys,
• 4:00:22
  Speaker 1: how do they work? I mean, I love your You're
• 4:00:24
  Speaker 1: bringing up Washington though, because I feel like for him,
• 4:00:28
  Speaker 1: even though he might not be what Laporte is as
• 4:00:30
  Speaker 1: a receiver right out of the gate, like he could
• 4:00:32
  Speaker 1: immediately come in and phil a role as a blocker
• 4:00:34
  Speaker 1: or as a big body guy that you can throw
• 4:00:36
  Speaker 1: out there that fills the need immediately. I know it's
• 4:00:38
  Speaker 1: not the sexy part that we all want, but still
• 4:00:40
  Speaker 1: he's a presence. He's a big dude. Let's go to
• 4:00:43
  Speaker 1: Chris and Scottsdale, Arizona. What's up Chris? Hey, guys, it's
• 4:00:49
  Speaker 1: good to u have Paul back from vacation. Can you
• 4:00:54
  Speaker 1: hear me? That was a shot. That's a first. No
• 4:00:58
  Speaker 1: one ever said. It's just it's just honoring the man.
• 4:01:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, Paul's uh you know, Paul, it is what
• 4:01:04
  Speaker 1: it is, thank you. Yeah. So all right, so here's
• 4:01:09
  Speaker 1: my thing. I'm really happy about the Gonzalez pick. Like
• 4:01:12
  Speaker 1: like everybody, UM, I was kind of like hopefully, wishfully
• 4:01:18
  Speaker 1: thinking that the guy from Florida, Anthony Richardson would slip
• 4:01:23
  Speaker 1: to a point where maybe we would entertain that, you know,
• 4:01:25
  Speaker 1: because to uh, Evan's point about like if you're going
• 4:01:29
  Speaker 1: to roll the dice on a project between him and Levice,
• 4:01:31
  Speaker 1: like obviously go with Richardson. Um. And then I'll close
• 4:01:35
  Speaker 1: with these last two points. I was hopeful that they
• 4:01:38
  Speaker 1: would hop back in for the wide receiver run. And
• 4:01:41
  Speaker 1: I wasn't as big on they Flowers as as everybody else's.
• 4:01:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, the guy looks pretty small to me. I'm
• 4:01:48
  Speaker 1: not saying that he's you know, doesn't bring anything to
• 4:01:50
  Speaker 1: the table. You know, he's obviously very fast, shifty, all
• 4:01:53
  Speaker 1: that good stuff, and I and I really dig all
• 4:01:55
  Speaker 1: those qualities. I'm kind of along the lines with with
• 4:01:59
  Speaker 1: with one of Johnston, Clinton Johnston only because of the
• 4:02:02
  Speaker 1: length and speed and and he's a guy that we've
• 4:02:05
  Speaker 1: just not been able to hit on. And I think
• 4:02:07
  Speaker 1: there's less of those guys floating around to pick from
• 4:02:10
  Speaker 1: than there are in the z A Flowers ilk Um.
• 4:02:13
  Speaker 1: With that being said, the last comment that I wanted
• 4:02:15
  Speaker 1: to make is um, I think you would know, isn't
• 4:02:18
  Speaker 1: there like still a kind of a Johnston kind of
• 4:02:21
  Speaker 1: clone guy who has like three names. He's one of
• 4:02:23
  Speaker 1: those guys that has like three names, super fast, you know, huge,
• 4:02:27
  Speaker 1: think yeah, yeah, West virgin So there we go. But
• 4:02:32
  Speaker 1: but he's not he's going to be late. But I
• 4:02:34
  Speaker 1: like him. I like, if you're if you're looking for
• 4:02:38
  Speaker 1: outside bigger receivers, we know we do call him BFW
• 4:02:42
  Speaker 1: that that's true. I mean, come on, me and Barts
• 4:02:46
  Speaker 1: have to have some like acronyms for playing us just whatever,
• 4:02:52
  Speaker 1: say you know yet I introduced him to the world.
• 4:02:56
  Speaker 1: But anyway, go ahead. Talked about him in Vegas and
• 4:03:03
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, So if you're gonna go big outside receivers,
• 4:03:07
  Speaker 1: I think Rosie. I think there's three kind of layers there.
• 4:03:09
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Mingo from Ole Miss, Cedric Tillman from Tennessee and
• 4:03:13
  Speaker 1: then your guy Bryce Ford Wheaton, Like those are sort
• 4:03:15
  Speaker 1: of the tiers there. Tillman is not quite as explosive,
• 4:03:19
  Speaker 1: but I think it's a better route runner than Mingo.
• 4:03:21
  Speaker 1: Mingo has got a lot of explosiveness in a lot
• 4:03:23
  Speaker 1: of yards after catchability, which I think, and I think
• 4:03:25
  Speaker 1: both of those guys are gonna go way before those
• 4:03:28
  Speaker 1: those guys will go in somewhere tomorrow. Yeah, and then
• 4:03:31
  Speaker 1: Bryce Ford Wheaton will be that version of that player
• 4:03:35
  Speaker 1: on day three. So if you're looking for that, that's
• 4:03:38
  Speaker 1: those are the three guys to look for. Uh, let's
• 4:03:41
  Speaker 1: go to Josh. What's up, Josh, John Josh, Josh Joshua.
• 4:03:50
  Speaker 1: Eric's in New Jersey, what's up? Eric? Freddie Man, Paul
• 4:03:54
  Speaker 1: Haven't Man. We got it, man, We we finally got
• 4:03:57
  Speaker 1: one right. I think I think we I think we
• 4:03:59
  Speaker 1: find got one right and I'm happy. I'm astatic. H
• 4:04:03
  Speaker 1: I wanted to think about Jerry Judy. He still you
• 4:04:06
  Speaker 1: think he's maybe off the table with that extra fourth
• 4:04:08
  Speaker 1: that we got. Um, you know, maybe some guys fall
• 4:04:10
  Speaker 1: in that Denver light. Do you still think that? I
• 4:04:12
  Speaker 1: think probably maybe our last point at it and I'll
• 4:04:14
  Speaker 1: take it off the line, and I'm so e static
• 4:04:16
  Speaker 1: that we got Gonzo, so I'll take it off the line,
• 4:04:19
  Speaker 1: Thank god, Thanks Eric. We're gonna have to give up
• 4:04:21
  Speaker 1: more than a fourth for Judy. Yeah, it's not gonna
• 4:04:23
  Speaker 1: help much. But I don't take any of these trades
• 4:04:26
  Speaker 1: off the table. I think that you know that there's
• 4:04:28
  Speaker 1: still possibilities. I mentioned earlier that Monte Austin Ford had
• 4:04:32
  Speaker 1: mentioned that uh Watson was not going to be available
• 4:04:36
  Speaker 1: during the draft, But I don't I don't think any
• 4:04:38
  Speaker 1: of those things are binding. I think everybody, you know,
• 4:04:40
  Speaker 1: as the million dollars mint says, everybody has a price.
• 4:04:42
  Speaker 1: You mean Hopkins, hop would I say Watsons? Yeah, DeAndre Hopkins,
• 4:04:46
  Speaker 1: Kurt that. Thank you for correcting that, because someone would
• 4:04:49
  Speaker 1: have I'm sure added me. Uh don't add Sean Watson's
• 4:04:53
  Speaker 1: gonna get trade. Um. Yeah, So I think that Judy,
• 4:04:57
  Speaker 1: you know, in these guys, I don't think it's gonna happen.
• 4:05:01
  Speaker 1: I think Jerry Judy's gonna stay in Denver. Yeah, but
• 4:05:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be knocked over if someone makes a
• 4:05:06
  Speaker 1: trade for him. And who knows, maybe if the Patriots
• 4:05:08
  Speaker 1: can't get one of these guys, that they want early
• 4:05:11
  Speaker 1: day two. Yeah, maybe they know maybe that, you know,
• 4:05:14
  Speaker 1: increases the urgency to get someone if they get Jerry
• 4:05:17
  Speaker 1: Judy and Christian Gonzalez out of about forget about about
• 4:05:22
  Speaker 1: your jersey, Mike's for everybody. Your lighthouse is just getting
• 4:05:26
  Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. One. I've been waiting on that all day.
• 4:05:38
  Speaker 1: He's a he's I love that guy. He's a handful.
• 4:05:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he is. I don't know if
• 4:05:43
  Speaker 1: he's an and I don't know if he's a linebacker,
• 4:05:45
  Speaker 1: but that he's a football player. He just gets the football.
• 4:05:47
  Speaker 1: His high school highlight film with like him just like
• 4:05:50
  Speaker 1: tossing one hundred and ten pound kids around like they're
• 4:05:53
  Speaker 1: like it just it looked like it should have been illegal.
• 4:05:55
  Speaker 1: You can just tell for some guys that they just
• 4:05:58
  Speaker 1: have like a natural feel for the game. They might
• 4:06:00
  Speaker 1: not be the best athlete, but they're just always find
• 4:06:03
  Speaker 1: the football and the trenches. And he's one of those
• 4:06:05
  Speaker 1: guys that just gets off blocks just somehow, I don't
• 4:06:09
  Speaker 1: know how, but he does it. It's guys like him
• 4:06:10
  Speaker 1: of the reason that they wouldn't let me play Pop
• 4:06:12
  Speaker 1: Warner guys. I was like, I'm one hundred and thirty
• 4:06:15
  Speaker 1: two pounds and they're like, not too big. I'm like,
• 4:06:16
  Speaker 1: how are you too big for football? And then I
• 4:06:18
  Speaker 1: see those highlights and it's just like he's going to
• 4:06:20
  Speaker 1: town on these kids. But I digress. Yeah, it's fun
• 4:06:24
  Speaker 1: like that was from childhood. I really picked a scabb well.
• 4:06:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're kind of the chubby kid,
• 4:06:29
  Speaker 1: and they're like you can't play football. I'm like, what, like,
• 4:06:32
  Speaker 1: come on, what else? What do I got in this world? Chubby?
• 4:06:34
  Speaker 1: Did you catch it though? When Macro was up on
• 4:06:36
  Speaker 1: the podium and he's like, oh, it looks like, you know,
• 4:06:38
  Speaker 1: the lighthouse is getting bigger and whoa? And then I
• 4:06:42
  Speaker 1: worked it in later. You know, it's a callback, you know,
• 4:06:44
  Speaker 1: connects in the show we're doing Magic Kid. Yeah, I
• 4:06:46
  Speaker 1: caught it for a different reason, Freddy. Okay, after he
• 4:06:49
  Speaker 1: came out show Whoa, after the key came off the podium,
• 4:06:54
  Speaker 1: Macro walked by recent I and he goes, I gave
• 4:06:57
  Speaker 1: you a lot there, didn't I? And it went, yeah,
• 4:07:00
  Speaker 1: you could have just told me that you're gonna draft
• 4:07:02
  Speaker 1: Christian Zalez and this is a lot easier, right, Are
• 4:07:04
  Speaker 1: you gonna go up and like hug him? After this, like,
• 4:07:07
  Speaker 1: you know what, I really I really do feel strongly
• 4:07:10
  Speaker 1: that he had a voice in and I don't think
• 4:07:13
  Speaker 1: he did last year in the first round. I really don't.
• 4:07:16
  Speaker 1: I think that that was all Bill and he liked
• 4:07:18
  Speaker 1: the kid down at the Senior Bowl and he took
• 4:07:20
  Speaker 1: Cole Strange and this one, I really feel like Macro
• 4:07:23
  Speaker 1: was like, Bill, this is our highest rated player on
• 4:07:26
  Speaker 1: our board. He felt to our in our laps and
• 4:07:29
  Speaker 1: we're taking the corner like let's not mess around with this,
• 4:07:33
  Speaker 1: and and like and you know when they do the
• 4:07:37
  Speaker 1: video after the fact and they always are we all
• 4:07:39
  Speaker 1: good with this, right? Yeah? I really think that this
• 4:07:42
  Speaker 1: was one of those that they were like, we are
• 4:07:44
  Speaker 1: all good with this, you know, we're this is what
• 4:07:46
  Speaker 1: we're doing. This was our pick. Yeah. Uh, Eagles on
• 4:07:50
  Speaker 1: the clock. And there's just two more picks. Is the
• 4:07:52
  Speaker 1: Eagles in the champs the Chiefs, So that'll round out.
• 4:07:58
  Speaker 1: Eagles got another freaking fur round pick like cheapest. They're
• 4:08:02
  Speaker 1: just they're doing a good job right now. They have to.
• 4:08:04
  Speaker 1: You have to respect how they're building their team, how
• 4:08:07
  Speaker 1: they're going about it. Um, they're they're doing it right,
• 4:08:09
  Speaker 1: and they're probably gonna be a problem in the NFC
• 4:08:12
  Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. Yeah. This was the fun part
• 4:08:15
  Speaker 1: of this draft though, is even though there wasn't that
• 4:08:18
  Speaker 1: elite talent at the top, like we all talked about
• 4:08:21
  Speaker 1: a lot from like fifteen fourteen where the Patriots are picking,
• 4:08:26
  Speaker 1: to all the way into tomorrow, there's all a lot
• 4:08:29
  Speaker 1: of really good guys that can that can play and
• 4:08:31
  Speaker 1: that can make contributions in the league. It might not
• 4:08:34
  Speaker 1: be those elite blue chippers, but now there's gonna be
• 4:08:37
  Speaker 1: still a lot of really good football players that are
• 4:08:40
  Speaker 1: on the board now. And even the team like the
• 4:08:42
  Speaker 1: Eagles at thirty, I mean, Joey Porter Jior still hasn't
• 4:08:45
  Speaker 1: gotten drafted. Joey Port, you know, Michael Mayer is still there,
• 4:08:48
  Speaker 1: Nolan Smith still hasn't gottene drafted, Brian Branch still hasn't
• 4:08:51
  Speaker 1: gotten drafted. So there's a lot of intriguing names left.
• 4:08:55
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Alex says, how would you guys feel about
• 4:08:59
  Speaker 1: packaging forty six one, twenty one, thirty five? I love
• 4:09:03
  Speaker 1: it for Hopkins or Judy and then a tackle at
• 4:09:06
  Speaker 1: seventy six. No way, just like sure he would I
• 4:09:11
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have traded for t Higgins I think those packaging
• 4:09:16
  Speaker 1: those three picks I was in. I don't even care what.
• 4:09:18
  Speaker 1: I don't even care. Let's fix the better correct how
• 4:09:22
  Speaker 1: about just what if they got rid of all their
• 4:09:24
  Speaker 1: seventh round picks? Why would you feel great? So so
• 4:09:27
  Speaker 1: all right, let's look him to chat. Yeah, yeah, you know,
• 4:09:30
  Speaker 1: let's let's take it seriously. So it was there. I
• 4:09:34
  Speaker 1: assume three was a three forts they have four force
• 4:09:38
  Speaker 1: now no, But like with in the trade that he wanted,
• 4:09:40
  Speaker 1: did you already do you think? I think it was
• 4:09:42
  Speaker 1: the second and the two force, so you could probably
• 4:09:45
  Speaker 1: get him for that, right, yeah? Absolutely for Judy? Is
• 4:09:51
  Speaker 1: that too much? It's definitely not too much for Judy.
• 4:09:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit too much for Hopkins.
• 4:09:56
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and I don't want to be here,
• 4:10:00
  Speaker 1: but I mean you can get Judy for a second, right, Yeah?
• 4:10:05
  Speaker 1: I think if Judy was available for a second, he
• 4:10:07
  Speaker 1: would already be traded. Okay, all right, I don't know.
• 4:10:12
  Speaker 1: That's just my my gut on that. But you don't
• 4:10:15
  Speaker 1: know how the league feels, though, Yeah, I don't know
• 4:10:17
  Speaker 1: how the league feels. I'm a little confused with Denver.
• 4:10:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they would trade him yeah, with
• 4:10:23
  Speaker 1: the first year coach coming in, like I would think
• 4:10:25
  Speaker 1: that he's a young guy that you want to see play,
• 4:10:27
  Speaker 1: and then you decide if I want to keep on.
• 4:10:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, given what the Patriots are going through and
• 4:10:32
  Speaker 1: we've been watching him go through for the last few years,
• 4:10:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know why you would try. Alex says, still
• 4:10:36
  Speaker 1: waiting to see where Levice and Hooker go. How would
• 4:10:39
  Speaker 1: you rank the current AFC quarterbacks? In my opinion, I'm
• 4:10:41
  Speaker 1: not even sure if Matt Jones cracks the top ten.
• 4:10:44
  Speaker 1: But I'm very happy with the Gonzales pick, and I
• 4:10:46
  Speaker 1: think this is a great step forward. I could get
• 4:10:49
  Speaker 1: back to my old persona and say you don't have
• 4:10:51
  Speaker 1: to think hoping for a tackle, and Cedric Tillman um, yeah,
• 4:10:55
  Speaker 1: tackle and said, who's the Cowboys and all their sorry
• 4:11:00
  Speaker 1: the Eagles and all their guys in suits? I mean serious,
• 4:11:02
  Speaker 1: they are all in. If you need to let this
• 4:11:04
  Speaker 1: many guys in the draft, like we could have been
• 4:11:06
  Speaker 1: in the draft room if they opened it amendment? Are
• 4:11:09
  Speaker 1: they about to sing about? I look at the clapping,
• 4:11:17
  Speaker 1: there's how we why are we making this draft? You know,
• 4:11:21
  Speaker 1: at least he Rannie's got the courage to wear some
• 4:11:24
  Speaker 1: tight jeans, you know, like some skinny jeans in there
• 4:11:27
  Speaker 1: has got the you know, that's a good look. I
• 4:11:30
  Speaker 1: like that look. I go for that look sometimes. But
• 4:11:32
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't. You know. They have this this need to
• 4:11:37
  Speaker 1: show the world that we're all on the same page.
• 4:11:42
  Speaker 1: I think it would be great if one of these
• 4:11:43
  Speaker 1: years they did that, and it'd be like, you know,
• 4:11:46
  Speaker 1: Smith Smith, like like one of those one of those
• 4:11:50
  Speaker 1: stouts aft for the that's just really mad that they
• 4:11:53
  Speaker 1: didn't take his guy, like just in the corner. Start arguing,
• 4:11:57
  Speaker 1: and that would be great. Ahead, take don't get dude,
• 4:12:01
  Speaker 1: take your guy. Throw this pen across the room. That's
• 4:12:05
  Speaker 1: what I'm looking for. Anyone next, I'm out. I'm done
• 4:12:09
  Speaker 1: thee Eric Skellivino Scouting School. Fine, Fine, I just want
• 4:12:15
  Speaker 1: to scut anyone but my guy, my d two corner
• 4:12:18
  Speaker 1: is just as good as Gonzas. I'm sorry. They make
• 4:12:24
  Speaker 1: the pick and some guy in the back takes a
• 4:12:26
  Speaker 1: spit take it, just sprays coffee all over because you're
• 4:12:29
  Speaker 1: a rocky, talk to me in three years. Hey, how
• 4:12:32
  Speaker 1: about a special shout out to the Dolphins forgetting that
• 4:12:34
  Speaker 1: pick taken away so we don't have to we only
• 4:12:35
  Speaker 1: have to sit through one today. Again, it's an early
• 4:12:38
  Speaker 1: evening things Dolphins, so with you gonna be midnight before
• 4:12:42
  Speaker 1: with the Eagles picking Nolan uh Stevens. Stevens was Northeast Mark. Yeah,
• 4:12:50
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs are on the board and they are
• 4:12:53
  Speaker 1: the last pick of round one. So we made it.
• 4:12:57
  Speaker 1: We made it pretty much, we're already done. Well. It
• 4:13:01
  Speaker 1: was an interesting uh, I mean, they still got eleven picks,
• 4:13:05
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I just I'm hoping for some some movement.
• 4:13:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think again to connect it to the
• 4:13:11
  Speaker 1: beginning of the show. Need those you know, elite players,
• 4:13:15
  Speaker 1: and I think you got a potential one and I'd
• 4:13:17
  Speaker 1: love to get one or two more. You know. Sure
• 4:13:21
  Speaker 1: we got a chance. We've got plenty of ammunition and
• 4:13:23
  Speaker 1: money to move up as far as you want. All
• 4:13:25
  Speaker 1: you need is a partner. All you need is someone
• 4:13:28
  Speaker 1: to do the dance with you, right. Um, So we're
• 4:13:31
  Speaker 1: gonna have one more pick um, But I want to
• 4:13:34
  Speaker 1: remind everybody that tomorrow will be live from seven o'clock
• 4:13:39
  Speaker 1: PM Eastern Time until ten o'clock, so seven to ten tomorrow,
• 4:13:44
  Speaker 1: doing it during the second and third rounds, and then
• 4:13:47
  Speaker 1: these guys have to do some writing because we expect
• 4:13:50
  Speaker 1: the Patriots will have multiple picks tomorrow, um, and so
• 4:13:55
  Speaker 1: it's a big day tomorrow. Yeah, and uh, you know,
• 4:13:58
  Speaker 1: we'll have big content put get put up on social
• 4:14:01
  Speaker 1: and patriots dot com throughout the day tomorrow. I think
• 4:14:04
  Speaker 1: we've got a nice uh Josh Uche or Cole Strange
• 4:14:08
  Speaker 1: draft journey that we might be dropping tomorrow. So that'll
• 4:14:11
  Speaker 1: be cool. Yeah, be on the lookout for maybe Christian
• 4:14:13
  Speaker 1: Gonzalez down on the field too. Uh yeah, hopefully that
• 4:14:16
  Speaker 1: pulls together right now, they have the lookout for me
• 4:14:18
  Speaker 1: to give him a hug. Would not know. There'll there'll
• 4:14:21
  Speaker 1: be a restraining order against Evan probably by four o'clock.
• 4:14:24
  Speaker 1: Small Gonzalz going like you know that that dude's not
• 4:14:26
  Speaker 1: gonna do that every day. Honestly, I was thinking about
• 4:14:30
  Speaker 1: this if the Patriots had drafted Zay. I was like
• 4:14:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit concerned that he would think I was
• 4:14:34
  Speaker 1: like following him around or something like that. It is
• 4:14:37
  Speaker 1: like the mole, the whole is there all the time.
• 4:14:41
  Speaker 1: I know you, but but this freaking kid again. I
• 4:14:44
  Speaker 1: just got some tape on this tablet. Can we just
• 4:14:46
  Speaker 1: watch this together? So it's right now, on paper, it's
• 4:14:49
  Speaker 1: just forty six in the second, seventy six and the third.
• 4:14:52
  Speaker 1: But again those four fourth round picks, the Philadelphia No Smith, Georgia.
• 4:15:03
  Speaker 1: What do you guys thinking Nolan Smith? I love, Yeah,
• 4:15:07
  Speaker 1: he was. I would say he's a little bit of
• 4:15:09
  Speaker 1: a drop, but playing with those guys in front of him,
• 4:15:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, he and I think I think he's pretty good.
• 4:15:15
  Speaker 1: It might. I was just being as a chance to
• 4:15:19
  Speaker 1: be snarky, um freddy to you a point. I saw
• 4:15:23
  Speaker 1: a couple of people had him mocked to Philadelphia at ten. Yeah, no,
• 4:15:28
  Speaker 1: I know, so Philly ends up getting him at thirty
• 4:15:32
  Speaker 1: and get Carter's run Nolan Smith, And I mean that
• 4:15:36
  Speaker 1: is some talent, yeah, in this draft. But that was
• 4:15:39
  Speaker 1: sort of you know, That's the point that I'm trying
• 4:15:41
  Speaker 1: to make with this entire draft. Everybody's been killing this draft.
• 4:15:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like, oh, there's no blue chip talent, there's
• 4:15:46
  Speaker 1: no receivers. But Nolan Smith going thirtieth overall, that that
• 4:15:52
  Speaker 1: there's some depth to this draft. To have a player
• 4:15:54
  Speaker 1: that good make it to third I mean, Joey Porter
• 4:15:56
  Speaker 1: Junior is going to make it out of the first round.
• 4:15:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, and he's I mean he's a four to
• 4:16:01
  Speaker 1: three week outside linebacker, right. I mean, he's just gonna play.
• 4:16:04
  Speaker 1: He's gonna get covered up. I mean, and with you
• 4:16:05
  Speaker 1: got what Jordan Davis from last year. Uh, you know
• 4:16:09
  Speaker 1: this year's pick. I mean, those guys he'll have, he'll
• 4:16:12
  Speaker 1: have space to operate in that defense. Sale quick and
• 4:16:15
  Speaker 1: get in there. So macro is scheduled to speak at
• 4:16:18
  Speaker 1: eleven and fifty. Well, as soon as the round is over,
• 4:16:21
  Speaker 1: which could be any second. I think the round is
• 4:16:24
  Speaker 1: over for the Patriots, is my part. No, no, no, no,
• 4:16:27
  Speaker 1: Well they're gonna but they're not for them. They're gonna
• 4:16:29
  Speaker 1: wait to see who gets picked. And then do there
• 4:16:32
  Speaker 1: make you wait things? Yeah, yeah, well guys draft show.
• 4:16:36
  Speaker 1: Huh well one down, two to go. LUs Freddy just
• 4:16:40
  Speaker 1: got up. This is the hardest Well, it's the easiest
• 4:16:42
  Speaker 1: one to do because you have more to talk about,
• 4:16:44
  Speaker 1: but it's the longest one in duration. So yeah, and
• 4:16:47
  Speaker 1: you slowly, you know, acquire each pick. You got a
• 4:16:50
  Speaker 1: little bit more to talk about tomorrow. But it might
• 4:16:52
  Speaker 1: be a little bit of a little bit of a
• 4:16:54
  Speaker 1: weight there as they but hopefully not. I mean, they'd
• 4:16:57
  Speaker 1: love to see him use some of that some of
• 4:16:58
  Speaker 1: those fourth rounders, get back up, get some guys that
• 4:17:01
  Speaker 1: can come in right away. Yeah, That's where I'm at
• 4:17:04
  Speaker 1: right now. You know that they've made that trade so
• 4:17:07
  Speaker 1: many times at this point, and this is a great
• 4:17:10
  Speaker 1: draft to do it with the talent that's still available.
• 4:17:12
  Speaker 1: To go get a pass catcher, you'd go get a
• 4:17:15
  Speaker 1: Josh Downs, Go get Darnell Washington, even drive if you
• 4:17:19
  Speaker 1: want to draft to tackle, you know, Dawan Jones, Matthew
• 4:17:22
  Speaker 1: Berger on those are two guys I think that could
• 4:17:24
  Speaker 1: be there. Uh, you know for you in the mid
• 4:17:27
  Speaker 1: to late thirties that you're not trading a ton of
• 4:17:30
  Speaker 1: picks to really get up. And I feel like adding
• 4:17:33
  Speaker 1: that that fourth round pick has to be to use
• 4:17:36
  Speaker 1: it as AMMO. At some point you're not gonna draft
• 4:17:38
  Speaker 1: four guys in the fourth round. I can't imagine that's
• 4:17:40
  Speaker 1: the plan. So I would think that at some point
• 4:17:43
  Speaker 1: tomorrow there's a trade up, whether it's at from forty
• 4:17:46
  Speaker 1: six or seventy six. Right fearlessly, there's coming and then dawn.
• 4:17:52
  Speaker 1: Then we'll look to Saturday. For Saturday. I was just
• 4:17:56
  Speaker 1: I just had to go to the bathroom, so I'm back,
• 4:17:58
  Speaker 1: But I was just thinking about that Eagles pick. You know,
• 4:18:01
  Speaker 1: thanks for taking your micro with you. I do, I do,
• 4:18:04
  Speaker 1: no I make river, although I did, I could have
• 4:18:09
  Speaker 1: got an electrocute. But um with that pick for the Eagles,
• 4:18:15
  Speaker 1: that's where one I can understand if they did high
• 4:18:18
  Speaker 1: five each other. Yeah, because they got a guy that
• 4:18:20
  Speaker 1: could way. I mean the first round, they they've had
• 4:18:23
  Speaker 1: a that's a great first round for them. Yeah. Well
• 4:18:26
  Speaker 1: they got the pizzas on offense. I mean again, I
• 4:18:29
  Speaker 1: don't have a problem with the high flat. You know,
• 4:18:30
  Speaker 1: like we're all in this together, We're all we're all
• 4:18:33
  Speaker 1: team team, all right, we got it. There's one of
• 4:18:35
  Speaker 1: the guys we really wanted. We got them. There's a
• 4:18:37
  Speaker 1: difference between high five and the one they showed there
• 4:18:39
  Speaker 1: in the middle. Oh like that like that that Dan
• 4:18:43
  Speaker 1: Campbell we're vikings. Yeah, I think it was the fighting.
• 4:18:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, you know, like that to me is
• 4:18:51
  Speaker 1: a little over the top, and I think it's mostly
• 4:18:54
  Speaker 1: for the cameras. I think they do it for the camera. Yeah,
• 4:18:57
  Speaker 1: there's Andy Reid and then one of his one of
• 4:18:59
  Speaker 1: his shirts there. What are they gonna bring on the
• 4:19:02
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Large? Uh so, what what are they are
• 4:19:09
  Speaker 1: they going to bring out? A third Super Bowl track
• 4:19:12
  Speaker 1: the clock run. What happens if the clock runs out? Fred?
• 4:19:14
  Speaker 1: Are they on the clock until the crapp opens tomorrow?
• 4:19:16
  Speaker 1: I get. I don't know that they lose the pick. Yeah,
• 4:19:19
  Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, Chiefs. Is that a new rule, No,
• 4:19:23
  Speaker 1: that's all They've always had that if you if you
• 4:19:25
  Speaker 1: the last pick of the round, you know, any pick,
• 4:19:27
  Speaker 1: if you know, if you don't make the pick by
• 4:19:30
  Speaker 1: the time it expires, the next team is on the
• 4:19:33
  Speaker 1: correct but the next pick on the next team on
• 4:19:36
  Speaker 1: the clock would be tomorrow. Yeah, that's why I'm I
• 4:19:39
  Speaker 1: don't think. Yeah, I don't think number one today goes
• 4:19:42
  Speaker 1: into this pick. Yeah, well I'm asking that might be
• 4:19:45
  Speaker 1: the case. I don't know, it could be. It's like,
• 4:19:47
  Speaker 1: don't go home. We've seen it happen, right, The clock
• 4:19:50
  Speaker 1: has run out on teams before. Yeah, we have seen
• 4:19:54
  Speaker 1: that happen. So there's a chance. Is there a chance
• 4:19:56
  Speaker 1: that the Chiefs, Yeah, for one of the quarterbacks, right,
• 4:20:00
  Speaker 1: I mean Will Levice and Hendon Hooker sitting right there.
• 4:20:03
  Speaker 1: This is what Baltimore did all those years ago for Lamar.
• 4:20:05
  Speaker 1: They stuck in back in the first round, in the
• 4:20:07
  Speaker 1: last pick of the first round. So you think they
• 4:20:10
  Speaker 1: right now the middle of the middle of the night,
• 4:20:12
  Speaker 1: not at that time maybe, and they they come up
• 4:20:16
  Speaker 1: right pick. Thank god, I don't have to image my
• 4:20:20
  Speaker 1: my my story that I already praised Michael. Now everybody,
• 4:20:24
  Speaker 1: just Gloster. They didn't even hear that. That was a
• 4:20:27
  Speaker 1: great joke by me. But that's sorry'll pull it out.
• 4:20:31
  Speaker 1: Matt Rose at eleven fifty. Oh yeah, just continuing with
• 4:20:36
  Speaker 1: a nine fifteen minute behind a strong show strong, strong show,
• 4:20:41
  Speaker 1: strong or quite strong. I'm just telling him he didn't.
• 4:20:44
  Speaker 1: I know, we talked about it. I know he didn't
• 4:20:46
  Speaker 1: have his phone on. I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready. Yeah,
• 4:20:48
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for my head. I was waiting for them.
• 4:20:50
  Speaker 1: And they also said after the round was over, which
• 4:20:53
  Speaker 1: it technically still isn't the pick The pick is in.
• 4:20:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, he'll give us all. Sorry, guys,
• 4:20:58
  Speaker 1: was reorganizing the board, were setting the board. Yes, this
• 4:21:01
  Speaker 1: is more manageable war room here. Although who's that guy?
• 4:21:05
  Speaker 1: That guy looks like a skinnyish Andy Reid. But just me,
• 4:21:10
  Speaker 1: I guess Burt Brewer went to sleep. He just he
• 4:21:13
  Speaker 1: tipped like the first sixteen picks and then he just
• 4:21:15
  Speaker 1: tapped out and hit the Felix or maybe you got
• 4:21:18
  Speaker 1: a call not get off your Felix from Kansas State.
• 4:21:20
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a good player. Yeah, Felix new Decay a
• 4:21:25
  Speaker 1: Zoma from Kansas States. Defensive end, edge rusher, really good
• 4:21:30
  Speaker 1: pass rusher. Somebody gave Tyler Steins some problems in that
• 4:21:34
  Speaker 1: Sugar Bowl. One of the few players on Kansas State
• 4:21:36
  Speaker 1: that held their own in that Sugar Bowl game. He's
• 4:21:39
  Speaker 1: a fun player. I liked his film a lot. That
• 4:21:43
  Speaker 1: does it all right, Well, that does it all right. So,
• 4:21:45
  Speaker 1: as I said, tomorrow seven o'clock, join us again. The
• 4:21:49
  Speaker 1: gang will be here. It should be action packed, lots
• 4:21:52
  Speaker 1: of ammunition for the Patriots. They could be doing anything.
• 4:21:56
  Speaker 1: They have a pick in the second, but who knows,
• 4:21:58
  Speaker 1: they could be moving up and picking a little higher.
• 4:22:01
  Speaker 1: So we'll find out tomorrow. Thanks for listening, Thanks for watching.
• 4:22:06
  Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, from seven to eight we
• 4:22:08
  Speaker 1: will be on videos. All right, all right, we'll talk
• 4:22:11
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