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Inside Scoop with Breitbart News - Kaleb Caruzo · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Coming out of City Hall today, locally, nationally, everywhere in
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  Speaker 1: between fifty five KRS the talk station eight O five
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  Speaker 1: colto six at fifty five kr CD Talk Station, A
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  Speaker 1: very happy Tuesday to you, Daniel Davis, Steve Divan, bottom
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  Speaker 1: of the Error Curse. Of course, we'll be talking about
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  Speaker 1: Venezuela as we will with my next guests, and it
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  Speaker 1: is a pleasure to have him on the program. Christian
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Cruzer goes by Caleb Cruizer, We'll call him Caleb.
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  Speaker 1: He escaped Venezuela in twenty twenty four, but prior to
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  Speaker 1: escaping venor at Venezuela, he was hired by Breitbart to
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  Speaker 1: write a column called My Socialist Hell, which he began
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  Speaker 1: doing in twenty nineteen. Caleb, it is a pleasure to
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  Speaker 1: have you on the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Welcome sir,
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  Speaker 1: good morning man.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having.
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  Speaker 1: Me, and thank you for being on the program and
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  Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. It's so important that you were
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  Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. And I'll remind my listeners as
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  Speaker 1: I always do when I start out this segment. Inside
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  Speaker 1: Scoop at Breitbart News, book mark the site Breitbart b
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  Speaker 1: R E I t BA RT dot com. You'd be
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  Speaker 1: glad you did, and you could read what Cayleb's been
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  Speaker 1: writing about. Can I ask you it? We'll die have
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  Speaker 1: obviously so much to talk about unpackaged with Venezuela right now.
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  Speaker 1: You were writing for Breitbart doing the my socialist Hell
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  Speaker 1: column from Venezuela. Did that present a threat to you
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  Speaker 1: given the how crazy the administration there was under Baduro.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, people have told me that. I kind of
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  Speaker 2: downplay it personally, but it was a huge risk because
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  Speaker 2: I have this president. This is an actual story. Back
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  Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen, one of my neighbors happened to be
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  Speaker 2: a journalist and she got kidnapped in broad daylight the
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  Speaker 2: right offs at her home. This was covered by Brightboard
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  Speaker 2: at the time. It was one of the few outors
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  Speaker 2: in internationally that actually covered this story. Thankfully, she was
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  Speaker 2: able to leave Venezuela and safe and sound. She was found,
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  Speaker 2: she was rescued. But I had that president already, like
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  Speaker 2: that personal president, that there is always a risk of
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  Speaker 2: with the regim because we're talking about a authorative regime
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  Speaker 2: with a brutal, repressive apparacess that has jailed journalist that
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  Speaker 2: has jailed people. Last year, they jail sixty elderly doctor,
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  Speaker 2: sixty something year old doctor simply because she posted a
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  Speaker 2: message on what'sapp critical of the REGIN. So it was
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  Speaker 2: a risk, Yeah, it was. It was definitely worth it
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  Speaker 2: to get the boys out there. And I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm always thankful to brag, but for giving me that opportunity,
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  Speaker 2: because it was a very important thing to say, how
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  Speaker 2: to tell the story of how things just how bad
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  Speaker 2: things got down there under the maduro regyms and its
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  Speaker 2: socialism policies.
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  Speaker 1: And judging from what I'm reading about your life in
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  Speaker 1: vent as well, and nobody better to speak about it
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  Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that Bernie Sanders and the
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  Speaker 1: likes of Sean Penn think it was a utopia that
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  Speaker 1: we all need to emulate. Not quite. So let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about your mother who had who passed away in Venezuela
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  Speaker 1: for want of medicine that isn't even available in the country.
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  Speaker 1: How long has this been kind of going on?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the healthcare situation in Venezuela is a complete disaster.
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  Speaker 2: There was lamp and there are still lamp and shortages.
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  Speaker 2: You just cannot you just cannot go to kind of
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  Speaker 2: expect to go to a hospital and actually receive treatment,
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  Speaker 2: even in private clinics. That's just how bad things things were.
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  Speaker 2: So my mother, she was a doctor, so I was
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  Speaker 2: always had some insight without the shortcomings of the Venezuelan
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  Speaker 2: healthcare system under the both public and private. She got
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  Speaker 2: diagnosed with cancer in twenty fifteen, and by then the
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  Speaker 2: situation in Venezuela was already collapsed. Getting the treatment she
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  Speaker 2: needed was outright impossible. We had to get some alternate
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  Speaker 2: chemotherapy that wasn't the ideal one, but it was better
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  Speaker 2: than nothing. Nothing obviously without the right treatment. Eventually she
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  Speaker 2: passed away in twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: You know, not the interject personal realities. I literally had
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  Speaker 1: my update doctor visit with my cancer doctor. I have
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  Speaker 1: lymphom and I got to go back to treatment. I
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  Speaker 1: literally said to my wife when I got back from
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  Speaker 1: my appointment, I'm glad I don't live in Venezuela. As
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  Speaker 1: upset as I am about having to get chemo again.
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  Speaker 1: At least we've got it here. Caleb.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no, but you got this. You got this.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be rooting for you.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for him. I'm not looking for Sybothy, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: thankful for the American medical system. As crazy as as
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  Speaker 1: it might be from time to time, it's nothing like
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  Speaker 1: the pain that you're living or that the Venezuelans are
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  Speaker 1: living through. Also, I understand you had spend a lot
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  Speaker 1: of your day searching for food on the black market.
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  Speaker 1: How do every day Venezuelan survive? I just it's beyond
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  Speaker 1: me to understand that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So the situation in Venezuela has rapidly evolved unchanged
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  Speaker 2: over the past ten to fifteen years. Back then, when
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  Speaker 2: I wrote those articles, it was extremely difficult to find
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  Speaker 2: even the basic things like toilet paper and oil or rice,
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  Speaker 2: what have you? Even toothpaste. I actually I always say
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  Speaker 2: this story because I got into a fight over toilet
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  Speaker 2: paper in late twenty thirteen. It wasn't my proudest moment
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  Speaker 2: in my life, but it happened. But that's how, that's
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  Speaker 2: how the country situation pushed me to behave that that day.
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  Speaker 2: Had to fight over people and push people just to
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  Speaker 2: secure a bit of toilet paper because I were only
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  Speaker 2: limiting one per person just to have something for my family. Eventually, yeah, eventually,
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  Speaker 2: the rush the shortages got so severe especially between twenty
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  Speaker 2: fourteen to twenty eighteen, that the regime instead of picking
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  Speaker 2: things up, they just clamped it down with the socialist policies.
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  Speaker 2: But they did first was implement weekly rations based on
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  Speaker 2: the last number of your national edic car. Let's stay
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  Speaker 2: for instance, mine my Benzula national edit card as in
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  Speaker 2: the number eight. That meant I was only allowed to
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  Speaker 2: purchase some of that stuff on Fridays, but by Friday
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  Speaker 2: there wasn't By Friday there was nothing left pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: And eventually this change into a system that doesn't function anymore, thankfully,
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  Speaker 2: wherein you would have to scan your fingerprint outside in
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  Speaker 2: supermarkets to be allowed to purchase things. Over time, the
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  Speaker 2: regen sort of maybe they saw light, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: They ease some of these restradictions and now the thing
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  Speaker 2: is that you can find things. But the regim pushed
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  Speaker 2: everyone into such levels of extreme poverty that most people
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  Speaker 2: just can't afford it buy food and buy anything.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you would think even under the least under the
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  Speaker 1: Biden administration, as open as our border was and as
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  Speaker 1: many Venezuelans who left the country and fled, I know
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the wealthy Venezuelans got outnder the job
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  Speaker 1: as resume. At least that's what I understand. But the
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  Speaker 1: rest see, you been know to make your way to
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  Speaker 1: the border, you had to escape Venezuela and you did
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  Speaker 1: so in twenty twenty four. Was it a difficult thing
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  Speaker 1: to do? It was like escaping sort of like Nazi
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  Speaker 1: occupied Berlin or something when the wall was up. What
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  Speaker 1: do you have to go through to get out?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the way they do it is that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they have to save face and pretend that they are
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  Speaker 2: the good guys fighting the good fight against America and
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  Speaker 2: the world, et cetera. The way they do it is
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  Speaker 2: not unlike the battling wall in which they let they
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  Speaker 2: contain people in. You can go out, but they don't
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  Speaker 2: make it easy for you to go out. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: because not everyone has the money to travel right and
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  Speaker 2: secondly because getting you can go out. But if you
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  Speaker 2: go out without your documentation let's say, passports, birth certificates,
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  Speaker 2: your work, your diplomas, you know, diplomas have, you have
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  Speaker 2: to go to the legalization apple still process to be
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  Speaker 2: able to have some validity of them outside the country.
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  Speaker 2: At the time my mother passed away, she was undergoing
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  Speaker 2: that process, so after she died, I have to go
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  Speaker 2: to every office and get all her diplomas back for
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  Speaker 2: safe keeping. The way I left Venezuela because maybe maybe
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  Speaker 2: it was just me. And on the last day my
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  Speaker 2: mother died, I promised her I would take care of
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  Speaker 2: my brother because he has he has some disabilities, and
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  Speaker 2: I promised her that I would take care of him
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  Speaker 2: no matter what, and I will get him out of
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  Speaker 2: the way, find a way healthy out of the country.
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  Speaker 2: Now I tried to do. I tried several approaches. I
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  Speaker 2: just been other resources or things that I didn't wanted
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  Speaker 2: to do it illegally, so ultimately my last resource to
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  Speaker 2: get my brother out was to get him Italian sediasenship
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  Speaker 2: to our father, who is an Italian man. This took
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  Speaker 2: me several years to gather all the documentation and the
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  Speaker 2: birth certificates. I even had to bribe my way in
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  Speaker 2: to get my own birth certificate because that's just how
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  Speaker 2: cor OpEd Venezuela is nowadays. It took me years, but eventually, I, thankfully,
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  Speaker 2: thank God, I got everything done and the right way
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  Speaker 2: and we're here.
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  Speaker 1: And in spite of the fact that you're now living
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  Speaker 1: in Italy, you're still reporting on things in Venezuela. I'm
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  Speaker 1: certain that you have many contacts remaining in Venezuela. Do
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  Speaker 1: you with the general sense of the population as you
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  Speaker 1: understand it, Caleb, about the reaction to the capture of
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  Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro and his wife and the prosecution of him
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  Speaker 1: in the United States? What what? What do you get
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  Speaker 1: a sense of from the reaction of the people you've
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  Speaker 1: talked to?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, from the people that I've talked to. Dave told
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  Speaker 2: me that everyone is happy, but you cannot express just
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  Speaker 2: how happy you are because, Okay, Maduro is gone, his
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  Speaker 2: wife is gone, but the regime is still there. The
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  Speaker 2: entire brutal, repressive apparatus is still intact, so you don't
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  Speaker 2: have the freedom to go out and celebrate in the
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  Speaker 2: same manner that you see all the pnessula out side
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  Speaker 2: of the country have been doing.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So I've spoken to some relatives and acquaintances, and we've
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  Speaker 2: told me that the general consensus is that everyone has
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  Speaker 2: no idea what's going to happen. Everyone's in on a
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  Speaker 2: shutout of uncertainty. But everyone is just trying to live
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  Speaker 2: their lives right now. Because I don't playing it safe
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  Speaker 2: and don't make it. Don't don't don't go in out celebrating.
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  Speaker 2: This is the smartest thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I might pretend no, go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I know people that have told me no, We're just
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  Speaker 2: going to pretend like nothing happened. They went to work
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  Speaker 2: yesterday Monday, just like any other day. They came back home,
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  Speaker 2: they eat some food and the rest, because that's the
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  Speaker 2: smartest thing to do with unless the one according to
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the regime.
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  Speaker 1: I understood, And we're in a state of flux right now,
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  Speaker 1: and I understand why the citizen room might not be
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  Speaker 1: out celebrating given that there's still this police apparatus in place,
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  Speaker 1: which is run. I know, Vice President Delsi Rodriguez is
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  Speaker 1: sort of a question mark right now which direction she's
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  Speaker 1: gonna do. But she's currently the acting president. But the
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  Speaker 1: Interior Minister, a person named Dio Sado Cabello, and the
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  Speaker 1: Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino sound like they're more thuggish loyalists
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  Speaker 1: to the majuro type regime. They remain in power, and
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  Speaker 1: they also are under indictment here in the United States
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  Speaker 1: of America. Do you have any understanding or expectation what
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  Speaker 1: those two individuals, Padrino and Dioso out of Cabello, might
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  Speaker 1: do by way of response to Donald Trump's imploring them
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  Speaker 1: to play nice or suffer the same faith.
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  Speaker 2: Well, President Trump gave Maduro several chances over the past month.
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  Speaker 2: They gave him several opportunities to leave the country under favorable,
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  Speaker 2: favorable terms that personally, I don't think he deserved. But
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  Speaker 2: it is what it is, and we will see. We
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  Speaker 2: we don't know how they're going to react. Because the
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  Speaker 2: Socialists of Regin the highest, the top brass, let's call
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  Speaker 2: it that way. The top brass is composed of several suctions.
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  Speaker 2: You had Maduro and his wife, the dad or the
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  Speaker 2: interior minister, and the defense minister patrinal Ops. They come
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  Speaker 2: from the military wing of the of the VAGIN. They
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  Speaker 2: were alongside Hugo Shavis, who was also a military man,
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  Speaker 2: whereas Maduro was part of the civilian wing of the
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  Speaker 2: VAGIN because he used to be a bus driver and
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  Speaker 2: a union worker syndicate leader back in the day. Now
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  Speaker 2: they all see the current acting president, she's also a civilian.
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  Speaker 2: She was Maduda's vice president. She was she was also
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  Speaker 2: her foreign minister and occupied other positions in the past,
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  Speaker 2: and her brother or her Rodriguez is the current head
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  Speaker 2: of the parliament or the Venezuelan Parliament, which is also
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  Speaker 2: completely controlled by the virgin So the Lodligous family is
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  Speaker 2: essentially one of the most powerful families in the in
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  Speaker 2: the country because you have the sister that he controls
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  Speaker 2: the executive right now as acting president, and you have
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  Speaker 2: the brother who controls the parliament. The way I see
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  Speaker 2: it is that they I hope that they understood that
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  Speaker 2: President Trump isn't playing and they gave Maduro. He gave
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  Speaker 2: Maduda several chances. He didn't took any of that. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't took any of those chances. He kept up playing hard.
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  Speaker 2: And now he knows the consequences of it because Cavejo
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  Speaker 2: and Paderino are also wanted on drug trafficking charges and
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  Speaker 2: they are included in the entire made of that that
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  Speaker 2: just got un sealed against Madudo.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the entire world seems to be unified in their
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  Speaker 1: assessment that Maduro stole the election, meaning Vice President Rodriguez
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  Speaker 1: is currently in power also the beneficiary of a stolen election.
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  Speaker 1: Will they in state the properly elected UH president at
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  Speaker 1: some point do you think or are we going to
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  Speaker 1: start all over the brand new election. What's your what's
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  Speaker 1: your understanding about where we're going to go from here
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  Speaker 1: on that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, as you mentioned, Delsey is the acting president
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  Speaker 2: on the BARBI. This is under the assumption that Maduda
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  Speaker 2: was a legitimate president, which he was not, which he
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  Speaker 2: was not. Uh, they are even ignoring the constitution that
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  Speaker 2: says that if a president isn't unable to serve his
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  Speaker 2: functions before the first half of his term, you will
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  Speaker 2: have to call for snap elections, which isn't happening right now.
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  Speaker 2: But we are that it's a complicated, uncharted waters scenario
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  Speaker 2: in which the we should maybe probably hold new l
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  Speaker 2: actions where we are not. The conditions to hold free
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  Speaker 2: elections are simply not there, so we will have to
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  Speaker 2: go on to some sort of transition period little by
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  Speaker 2: little until things until the conditions for a new election
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  Speaker 2: perhaps can happen. And because the Elegy controls the military,
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  Speaker 2: there is no they control the electoral Council. The conditions
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  Speaker 2: for a free elections are simply not there right now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and at some point I suppose the US is
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  Speaker 1: going to have to get involved in maybe bringing about
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  Speaker 1: some stability for the elections. I don't know how that's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen. What do you see at this point
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  Speaker 1: to be the biggest challenge maybe that Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 1: facing and trying to bring about the stability that we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about here, sir.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest challenge would be they'ls herself, because although she's
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  Speaker 2: allegedly co operating with America, she is also acting all
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  Speaker 2: taf and almighty inside the country. They just passed a
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  Speaker 2: decree that supposedly Maduro signed on the same day he
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  Speaker 2: got captured. Don't ask how, don't I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how. Yeah, perhaps, maybe, maybe maybe, But the decree
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  Speaker 2: there is a specific article that says that grants the
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  Speaker 2: police are law enforcement in Venezuela, the authority to arrest
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  Speaker 2: and detail people who are quote unquote cooperating with the
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  Speaker 2: attack on Venezuela.
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  Speaker 1: Well, sir, I cannot thank enough Caleb Caruzer for spending
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  Speaker 1: time my listeners and me today. I appreciate what you
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  Speaker 1: have been doing since twenty nineteen year bridebart and despite
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  Speaker 1: of the fact that yes, you were under threat of
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  Speaker 1: maybe uh disappearing as the case may be, you did
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  Speaker 1: the right thing. You continue to do the right thing.
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  Speaker 1: We will continue reading what you write and hopefully have
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  Speaker 1: you back in the program real soon to talk about
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  Speaker 1: things as they unfold and develop, hopefully for the benefit
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  Speaker 1: of the Venezuela and people. Caleb, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. You can. You can. Obviously, you
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  Speaker 2: can find the stuff right at bridebar dot com.
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  Speaker 1: You will.
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  Speaker 2: You'll find all the breaking news at the homepage. But myself,
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  Speaker 2: you can find it mostly at the top at the
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  Speaker 2: international section. I do it several sections, and there's one
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  Speaker 2: for Latin America.
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  Speaker 1: I do it every single day. That's why I always
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  Speaker 1: recommend my listeners bookmark the website brightbart dot com, caleeb Cruiser,
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  Speaker 1: God bless you, sir. You're always welcome here on the
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  Speaker 1: fifty five KRC morning shows. Stay well and keep up
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  Speaker 1: the great work.