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USF DB Ayden Jackson Joins 4th AND BULL · 4th AND BULL

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Fourth and Bowl presented by Blue Terra. My
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  Speaker 1: name is Nick Wise. On today's show, we will talk
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  Speaker 1: to Aiden Jackson from the USF Bulls defense. He is
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  Speaker 1: the leading tackler right now. And in this conversation, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to learn a lot about him, about football and
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  Speaker 1: outside of football, like what he wants to do after football.
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  Speaker 1: He is a criminal justice major. What he wants to
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  Speaker 1: do after football is pretty interesting. So we'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he played against Buccaneers wide receiver Ted Hurst
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  Speaker 1: in college multiple times.
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  Speaker 2: Before he arrived at USF.
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  Speaker 1: So we talked a little bit about that, what he
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  Speaker 1: remembers from Ted Hurst, and he's a Falcons fan, and
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  Speaker 1: they're playing the Bucs this weekend. So we got into
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  Speaker 1: that as well. Plus, we talked about what he did
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  Speaker 1: during the bye week. All of that and more coming
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  Speaker 1: up on today's show. Do want to let you know,
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  Speaker 1: now we take you to the conversation with Aiden Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: How was the bye week outside of ball? How did
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  Speaker 1: you spend the bye week not having a game last Saturday?
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  Speaker 3: Like what I did on Saturday or like during the week? Well, both.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with Saturday, but then let's go through the
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  Speaker 1: whole week as well. What did you do on Saturday?
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  Speaker 3: Saturday, I kind of just chilled in the curb, played
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  Speaker 3: a lot of video games, watched a lot of ball and.
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  Speaker 1: Everything like that. What games did you get to check
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  Speaker 1: out on Saturday?
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  Speaker 3: What game I had watched? I don't even know what
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  Speaker 3: game I had watched.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think.
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  Speaker 1: Did you watch Michigan and Indiana by chance? No, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't watch Michigan and Indiana. The reason why I bring
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  Speaker 1: that one up, there was a roughing the passer in
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  Speaker 1: that game where the defender's thumb literally hit the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: and they called roughing the passer. I was going to
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  Speaker 1: ask you, what's it like playing defense nowadays with those
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  Speaker 1: rules where when you go in for a hit, how
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  Speaker 1: many things are going through your mind?
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  Speaker 2: I've got to have this position, that position.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I just feel bad for defenders these days trying
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  Speaker 1: to play with some of the rules. And I get
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  Speaker 1: the rules. They're for safety. But what's that like for
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  Speaker 1: you as a defender, you know, in those moments?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's a bunch of, like, different limitations they
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  Speaker 3: done put on hitting, tackling somebody. But, like, I say
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  Speaker 3: what I look for going in to go make a
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  Speaker 3: tackle or want to break up a ball, shoot, I
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  Speaker 3: look for that chest plate down. Anywhere from right there,
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  Speaker 3: I know I'm gold to, you know, go make the play.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever caught yourself in one of those situations?
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever gotten a targeting call against you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, sir. I definitely got a targeting last year.
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  Speaker 3: It was a little ball across the middle. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I had one in there, put my shoulder in there, but, like,
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  Speaker 3: I guess I was too hot. And I had got
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  Speaker 3: thrown out in the third quarter versus Georgia State last year.
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  Speaker 2: So then you had to sit out the following game too?
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  Speaker 3: I had to sit out the following first half of
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  Speaker 3: the next game.
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  Speaker 2: And you guys were playing Georgia State? Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: So did you go up against Ted Hurst at all,
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  Speaker 1: plays for the Buccaneers now?
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  Speaker 3: Sure. I played him every single year I was at
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  Speaker 3: Georgia Southern, all three years.
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  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on him?
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  Speaker 3: That dude, a roller, he can run for sure. You
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't think of a guy that big, that long, would
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  Speaker 3: be able to run, but he definitely get out in space.
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  Speaker 3: He going to run away from you for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I did a TV show yesterday with Keontae Scott, and
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  Speaker 1: I asked him who the biggest trash talker was on
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  Speaker 1: the team, on offense, and he said, He said Ted
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  Speaker 1: Hurst was the biggest trash talker.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember him talking trash at all when you
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  Speaker 2: were going up against him?
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't really guarding him. He was the outside receiver,
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  Speaker 3: but I hear him getting our cornerback's face and everything
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  Speaker 3: after plays and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Who's the biggest trash talker on your guys' defense?
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  Speaker 3: I had to say me, honestly. You? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. I've asked that question to a few people.
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  Speaker 1: I've never gotten me as the answer. I appreciate the honesty.
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  Speaker 1: What about on your guys' offense when you're going up
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  Speaker 1: against them? And I know you guys don't go up
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  Speaker 1: against them every single day. Sometimes you guys are doing
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  Speaker 1: your own things. But who's the trash talker on offense?
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I got somebody in mind who it
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  Speaker 1: might be, but I'm curious to who you got.
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  Speaker 3: For sure, 100% Luke Crumlinop.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to always talk it back to you.
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  Speaker 3: You wouldn't expect that of him, but he's definitely going
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  Speaker 3: to talk trash right back to you.
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  Speaker 2: That was not who I was going to get.
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  Speaker 1: My guess was going to be Bryson just because– Bryson?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I figured it would be him.
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  Speaker 3: Now? I don't know about Bryce. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 3: ain't really heard him say too much for real. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Luke Cromanhook is the last person that I would have thought.
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  Speaker 1: So when he's running those touchdowns there from the one
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  Speaker 1: or two-yard line, the defense is absolutely hearing from him.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to get right up in your face, and
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  Speaker 3: you're going to hear him. He might spike the ball,
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  Speaker 3: get all up in your face. That's really what he
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  Speaker 3: was doing last week on the bye week.
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  Speaker 2: Just talking crap to everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: So besides watching– well, actually, what other games– do you
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  Speaker 1: remember what games you did get to watch on Saturday?
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  Speaker 3: I definitely watched the Miami and Pitt one. I was
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  Speaker 3: pretty much watching that one the whole time. And then
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  Speaker 3: I had watched like the back half of the Cincinnati
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  Speaker 3: versus Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, they destroyed them.
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  Speaker 1: And then, yeah, that was– the last couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: have been so crazy in college football. That's what makes
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  Speaker 1: college football so awesome. How did you end up spending
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the bye week? You know, Saturday watching ball,
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  Speaker 1: but how was the rest of the time off?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was good. We definitely got to it
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  Speaker 3: the whole week through the bye week. Highly competitive, you know,
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  Speaker 3: trash talking back and forth. But I felt like that
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  Speaker 3: was really good, and that's really what we needed to
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  Speaker 3: roll into UAB.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, big game this weekend. Yeah, I know you're from Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Are you a Falcons fan by chance?
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: There was a question I told everybody on Twitter. I
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  Speaker 1: had you on the fourth and bowl today, and that
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  Speaker 1: was one of the questions. They wanted to know if
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  Speaker 1: you were a Falcons fan, and were you trying to
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  Speaker 1: go to the game on Sunday, or do you guys
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  Speaker 1: have practice?
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  Speaker 3: We had to be back earlier in the day, so
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't make it back home for real.
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  Speaker 1: Man, the last person I had was Bryson on here.
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  Speaker 1: He was a Cleveland Guardians fan when they were playing
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  Speaker 1: the Rays, and so it's like every time I get
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  Speaker 1: one of you guys, you're always a fan of the
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  Speaker 1: other team. So will you get home in time? Do
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  Speaker 1: you get to watch football on Sunday, or is it
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  Speaker 1: How does the schedule work out on Sundays for you guys?
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  Speaker 3: We most of the time get to watch the back
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  Speaker 3: half of it, for real, but sometimes we might catch
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  Speaker 3: a game starting, but yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Does that bother you?
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  Speaker 1: Because I love watching football, whether it's Saturdays or Sundays,
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  Speaker 1: and if I ever have to work on a Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I'm missing the game. Are you at practice,
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  Speaker 1: or is it different for you guys because you're playing football,
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  Speaker 1: but are you ever at practice on Sunday like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I wish I was at home watching that game?
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  Speaker 3: Definitely when the Falcons play, but I'm kind of more
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  Speaker 3: of a Saturday night guy. I like to watch college
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  Speaker 3: football for real.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, same.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm just playing, I like to tune into that.
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  Speaker 1: When you guys play a nooner like you have this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: do you prefer the noon game so you can get
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  Speaker 1: home and watch college football on Saturday night?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Definitely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, college football.
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  Speaker 3: At that Army game, you know, that one was early
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  Speaker 3: on in the day. And the whole bus ride back,
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  Speaker 3: everybody was just watching ball.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, those are probably the best rides back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: That Army game, you had 10 tackles, man.
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  Speaker 1: What were you doing different on that? I mean, you've
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of great games. You're the leading tackler
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  Speaker 1: of the team. But 10 tackles, one game, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's something to be proud of. Anything that you were
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  Speaker 1: doing differently on that day or just was just kind
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  Speaker 1: of coming to you? Talk to us a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about that game against the Army.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing different at all. But, you know, they're just a
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  Speaker 3: super run-heavy team. So you know what you're looking for
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  Speaker 3: every down, most of the downs. You know, they finna
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  Speaker 3: get ready to run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: What was it like for you on the sidelines when
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  Speaker 1: your offense is driving it down for that final drive?
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  Speaker 3: That was probably the most surreal moment I had in
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  Speaker 3: college football because we had the cadets behind us. And
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  Speaker 3: the whole time, they were talking trash, especially when they
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  Speaker 3: were up on us at the end of the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 3: So they were smiling, talking trash. And then, boom, after
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  Speaker 3: the catch, I turned around immediately. I turned around and
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  Speaker 3: immediately started, yeah, started talking about Schmidt.
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, people don't think of the cadets as the trash talkers.
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  Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to go to Army-Navy last year,
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  Speaker 1: and it was a really cool experience if you ever
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  Speaker 1: get the chance. Like, obviously, it's different than any other
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  Speaker 1: college football game, but it was, like.
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  Speaker 2: Hearing those guys talk so much trash to each other.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you know, I guess, like, when you think of them,
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  Speaker 1: you think, like, they're, like, and they are respectful, but
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're at a football
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  Speaker 1: game and, you know, me going in there as a civilian,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of forgot, you know, and, and, and when
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  Speaker 1: they're just, when they're going back and forth, man, they,
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  Speaker 1: they will jaw each.
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  Speaker 2: Other all day. And, uh, cause you know, I always.
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  Speaker 1: Want like, what is it like going up against one
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  Speaker 1: of the academies? Like, do you, do you talk trash
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  Speaker 1: back to them or is it be like, do you
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  Speaker 1: look at them differently because they're, they're members of the
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  Speaker 1: military or like, how does, how does it work for
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  Speaker 1: when you're up against one of those teams?
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  Speaker 3: Um, I didn't really look at them differently. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's ball in between those sidelines. But I honestly thought
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  Speaker 3: it was going to be more trash talking from them. But, like,
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  Speaker 3: they were cool. Like, they weren't really talking smack. They
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  Speaker 3: would just laugh and just say, like, he'll let you
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  Speaker 3: know when he got the best of you on the plate.
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  Speaker 3: But they weren't really talking too much smack for real. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: More just the cadets in the stands.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I love that you turned around and uh, and you
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  Speaker 1: talked back to him. Cause it's gotta be hard sometimes
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  Speaker 1: like to, I always, I don't understand how you guys
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  Speaker 1: go into the tunnel when people are screaming at you
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  Speaker 1: and you just like ignore it. Like, is that a
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  Speaker 1: skill or do you usually chirp back and we just
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  Speaker 1: don't catch it on the cameras? Like, cause I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I would have a hard time just ignoring it.
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  Speaker 3: Um, I'll be honest with you. I, Y'all might not
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  Speaker 3: catch some of it on the camera, but there's definitely
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  Speaker 3: some words being said about it.
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  Speaker 2: I love it, man. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So tell me about the transfer portal and coming to USF.
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  Speaker 1: What was it that stood out about USF for you?
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  Speaker 1: What made it the perfect fit? Why did you choose USF?
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  Speaker 1: Was it between USF and any other options? What was
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  Speaker 1: the whole transfer experience like for you?
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, it was a very short experience for me. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I came on my official visit here. Me and my
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  Speaker 3: brother and some more of my family, we got to
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  Speaker 3: sit down with Heartline personally. And just everything he was saying, like,
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  Speaker 3: on my visit, like, when we were sitting down eating dinner, like,
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  Speaker 3: it's literally, like, you can tell his mentality is different,
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  Speaker 3: especially me coming from Georgia Southern having another head coach. Like,
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  Speaker 3: his mentality, the way he was saying it, like saying
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  Speaker 3: words describing describing everything you knew like I knew honestly
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  Speaker 3: that's who I wanted to play for right then and
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  Speaker 3: there just hearing hearing him talking everything.
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  Speaker 1: What are official visits like I feel like I feel
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  Speaker 1: like all of them have to be so awesome to
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  Speaker 1: where when you leave one you're like oh I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go there and then you go on the next visit
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  Speaker 1: and you're like oh I'm gonna go there like how
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  Speaker 1: awesome are like the official I mean I'm sure they
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  Speaker 1: every place you go they just treat you so great.
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  Speaker 3: Um my official visit to the USF I say like
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  Speaker 3: it was great like good food. You got to, you
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  Speaker 3: get to see the whole area and nightlife too. Like
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  Speaker 3: you get to see like what Tampa is really about.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, that is smart.
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  Speaker 1: Take a young guy like you. Hey, here's where everyone
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  Speaker 1: goes to hang out. Take a nice look at everything
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  Speaker 1: over here. Cause you see the Tampa nightlife, especially over there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they took you over, uh, Hyde park and
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  Speaker 1: all that area.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of where we're eating dinner and everything. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You go over to Hyde park and you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is, this is, this is for me. Every time
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  Speaker 1: I go to Hyde Park, I feel broke. I'm like, God,
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  Speaker 1: there's so much money over here. But, yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 1: nice area. So what was your first impression of the
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  Speaker 1: USF defense when you guys got together, your first impression
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  Speaker 1: of them, and then kind of your impression of the
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  Speaker 1: defense now?
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  Speaker 3: You know, speaking on my official visit, I came in
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  Speaker 3: to meet with Coach Aldridge in his office. He basically
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  Speaker 3: broke the whole defense down for me, told me things
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  Speaker 3: would be running, and That's another reason why I also
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  Speaker 3: fell in love and wanted to, like, choose USF. But
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  Speaker 3: being in it and actually playing in it, it's, like,
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  Speaker 3: it's there for you to make plays. It's for somebody
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  Speaker 3: to go make plays.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they've given you a ton of opportunities. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, you're the leading tackler of
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  Speaker 1: the team. That's got to be something you're pretty proud of.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, do you let the guys know that in
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  Speaker 1: the group chat often, like I'm the leading tackler of
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  Speaker 1: the team?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, I just go out there and make my
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  Speaker 3: plays when they come to me for real.
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  Speaker 1: When the cadets were yelling at you, were you like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I had 10 tackles today?
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm pretty sure they heard my name a lot
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  Speaker 3: on the loudspeaker, so they couldn't really say too much
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  Speaker 3: for real.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: How awesome is it, though, playing for Aldridge? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: talking to a couple of your guys on the team
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  Speaker 1: from the defensive side of things, I got to meet
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the Bulls players at FanFest back in August,
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  Speaker 1: which it feels like that was just yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're over halfway through the season, right?
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  Speaker 1: And any time we talk to anyone from defense, they
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  Speaker 1: just talk so highly of Coach Aldridge. I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: makes him stand out to you maybe compared to other
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  Speaker 1: defensive coordinators you've been with?
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  Speaker 3: He's definitely a player's coach. Like, he'll get hyped with you,
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  Speaker 3: you know, talk like, you know, shoot the whole thing
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  Speaker 3: with you, you know, get you hyped up. And he's
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  Speaker 3: just always going to be in your ear for you,
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  Speaker 3: like even when you do mess up. like do the
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  Speaker 3: wrong play, he's going to tell you to go out
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  Speaker 3: there and make the play again.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, man, everyone loves him.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, the game against Kent State, the 96-yard fumble return,
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  Speaker 1: take us kind of through that. I know that was
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  Speaker 1: a great moment for C.J. Hicks, but just what does
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  Speaker 1: that like do for a defense? I mean, how pumped
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  Speaker 1: are you guys as a defense? I mean, that was
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  Speaker 1: a game-changing play. You're either going to go down possibly,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you could be down 10-0, 9-0, all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden– You're up 7-2. I mean, what do you
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  Speaker 1: remember specifically about that play that happened in the game?
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  Speaker 3: I really knew it was a play that was going
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  Speaker 3: to get everybody rolling, like get the confidence back on
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  Speaker 3: our side, get the energy back on our side. So
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: I feel like the best thing for us to do
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: is just get everybody pumped up about it.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of like a– I mean, that
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: felt like– do you feel like the energy kind of
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: shifted in that moment? Because, I mean– They just couldn't
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: really do much against you after that.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the stadium went crazy after that play, and you
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: could tell right there, like, that's what made us flip
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: the switch.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tied the record for the longest in program history,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: which is pretty– I can't believe there was already a
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: 96-yarder on the board, which is pretty impressive. But, yeah,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: it was interesting. Have you ever played in a game
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: where the score was 29-2? I mean, that's a bizarre score.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: I never have, honestly.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: What about two safeties in a game? Have you ever
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: even played in a game with two safeties.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: In a game?
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Two safeties? What do you mean by that?
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Well, there was two safeties in that game.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: You guys had a safety against them, and they had
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: one against you.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, no. I ain't never played in a game with
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: that many safeties, for real, honestly.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I remember later that night, we were getting ready for bed,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: and my wife's like, did USF win? And I go, yeah,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: it was 29-2. And I was, like, waiting for her
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: to go two. And she's like, and then she stopped,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: and she goes, I had to explain to her everything
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: that went down.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: It was a weird score.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Playing defense at USF, is there a specific play that
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: gets called that when it gets called, you're like, oh,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: hell yeah, I can't wait for this?
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: For sure. It's one play. I know it's my turn
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: to go make a play, and the team count on
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: me to make that play right then and there. So, yeah,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: it's definitely some plays I look forward to.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: You got one sack on the season.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Take me through the sack that you had and what
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: that moment was like for you. I believe it was
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: against UTSA, if I remember correctly.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, first sack ever, so I was super,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: super pumped about it. I even fell on the ground
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: after trying to celebrate. But, yeah, definitely something I want
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: to do again for sure.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: What was it about that play?
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, just take us through the whole vision of
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: the time the ball was snapped and what you remember
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: from that moment, knowing it was your first sack. I'd
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: imagine you can probably still see it clear as day today.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: You know, it was some seconds left in the second
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: quarter going into the third quarter. You know, they were
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: getting the ball back at halftime, and it was fourth
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: downer in that play, I'm pretty sure. So I knew
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Coach called a play for me to go make the play. So...
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I know I had to go make the play, especially
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: with them third and the scorers before they went into halftime.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: That's awesome, man. Congrats on that. That's cool.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that was your first one ever. I
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: know you're a criminal justice major. Did I read that right?
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: What is it you want to do life after football?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: What is it that you want to do?
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Secret service for sure. Something I definitely get interested in.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Secret service. That's no joke.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I had a relative who was in the secret service.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: That's kind of cool.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Can they tell you stories once they're out, or are
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: they just super secretive?
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I definitely tried to nudge the Area 51 question, but
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: it was always just a deflection for real.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: That's a great question, so you couldn't get any information.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Because I've always wondered about Area 51, too, man.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: That's one of.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: My biggest interests, what goes on there.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Now, here's the thing.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: If you get into the Secret Service and you start
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: learning about Area 51, are you going to be able
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: to keep it to yourself, or are you going to
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Have to tell somebody.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: It's going to be my job to keep it to myself,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: so I've got to.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: That's awesome, man.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on, you know, I know you
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: like college football.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: We were just talking about that at the beginning.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: What do you think about college football going to the
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: 2014 playoff? You can be honest, man.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest. I don't like it. I love college football,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: but I don't like it.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's kind of, you know, too
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: many games, for real, honestly. Yeah. 2014 playoffs, like, I
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: feel like there's going to be a whole big thing
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: of who gets in there or if they take the
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: whole AP24 or whatever, AP25. So I didn't really put
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: in too much thought to it for real, but it's
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: something I definitely had to, like, look more into.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, growing up watching college football, and I'm
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: sure you were the same, it was like every regular
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: season game is a playoff game, you know? And I
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: felt like that's what made it different than the NFL,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: and I feel like that's why I liked it more.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Now I feel like it's kind of becoming more and
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: more kind of like the NFL in a way. But, yeah,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. I mean, we know why
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: they do it. It all comes down to money, and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I can't find a single person that's like, yeah, I
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: can't wait for the 2014 playoffs. At the end of
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the day, though, as much as we all hate it,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: we're all going to sit there and watch it, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's more ball. I don't think anybody would be.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: mad no i'm more ball.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah no i'm excited for the more ball i
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: just i i i guess i there's some things that
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: i would rather change about it and you're right though
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: there's always gonna be controversy who gets in we had
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the bcs there was controversy went to four controversy 12
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: there's controversy like last year with Miami and Notre Dame,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and this year I'm sure we'll have our own controversy.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I know throughout your career you played against, you know,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: USC and Wisconsin, a couple teams. Is there a stadium
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: that stands out to you that you remember playing in
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: that you're like, man, that's pretty cool being here?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Definitely Wisconsin, but I'll say playing that Army with the
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: whole cadets, like it was packed to the brim, and
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: they were strong.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I believe that.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was definitely one of the most surreal stadiums
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I played in, for real.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I believe that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Plus, you guys were there the day after 9-11. I mean,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: there was just so much going on. I was just
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: happy you guys came home with the dub, man. That
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: was just such an awesome. I just remember sitting on
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the couch. How many text messages? Because I was sitting
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: on the couch. I got so many text messages after that,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: just as a fan. A lot of them were like,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Brian Hartline's got the biggest balls ever. And how many
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: text messages did you get on your phone? Like, when
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: you got back to your locker and then grabbed your phone, like,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: how many text messages did you have after that game?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: It was definitely a lot, especially how you said about
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Coach Hartline. It was like, game on the line, fourth down,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: and you go for a fade ball. It was like,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: that was kind of crazy.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: What did you think on the sidelines? Were you like,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Coach is crazy. Why is he not sending Nico out there?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Nico's a great kicker.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Or were you like?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, what were you thinking when they went for
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: it rather than kicking a field goal?
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Because I'm like, what's he doing?
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't honestly know what was going on
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: too much with, like, what they were trying to get together.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: But when I seen the offense out there, I was like,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: let's go make this. Let's go get this fourth down.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: And then, boom. That's awesome. Look up. You see the
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: pass from Van Buren. Fade ball for the game. I was,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I think I ran back and forth on the sidelines.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: That was a hell of a throw.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I would love to be able to interview those cadets
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that were on the sidelines in that moment behind you.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Real quick, just on the game this Saturday, anything you
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: see on film that they do really well on offense
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that stands out to you that you've got to prepare
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: for this weekend?
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they definitely got their playmakers, you know, the receivers
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: to the running backs. But, yeah, they got some ballplayers
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: on that team. Awesome, man.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate your time. I'll let you get back
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to what you were doing. I know you've got a
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: busy week. Game on Saturday. Appreciate you so much joining us. And, Aiden,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I wish you guys the best of luck going forward.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And I definitely hope we talk again soon.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Thank you.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Big thank you to Aiden for sitting down and talking
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: with us today and letting us get to know him.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: We will preview this Saturday's game on the podcast on
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: either Wednesday evening or Thursday morning.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I will get that out to you.
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• 23:55
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