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FULL SHOW: Don't Forget The Pear · KIIS Breakfast

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Speaker 1: Half-price now at Chemist Warehouse. Hello, good morning, Mikey. Amy
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Speaker 1: Gerard for Chemist Warehouse.
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Speaker 2: Morning.
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Speaker 1: September 11 today. We will be having a look back
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Speaker 1: at that. and Sandra Sully, who covered it, the only
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Speaker 1: Australian news person that was on that night. We're going
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Speaker 1: to get her on a little bit later.
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Speaker 4: Amazing.
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Speaker 1: Hey, how are you?
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Speaker 2: How many years ago?
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Speaker 1: That was like 25 years. Yeah, so it's a big
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Speaker 1: anniversary this year.
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Speaker 2: That feels so... Like, I remember exactly where I was
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Speaker 2: on the day and everything.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like that long ago.
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, 25 years.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: How are you? You said you're getting sick.
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Speaker 2: Look, I'm extremely happy it's Friday. Put it that way.
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Speaker 7: I'm just going to turn into a sloth all weekend.
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Speaker 7: I mean, around all the kids' birthday parties and soccer
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Speaker 7: and netball presentations that I've got.
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Speaker 1: But, you know, when you're on the verge of- Oh,
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Speaker 1: is it presentation season?
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Speaker 2: It's presentation season.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So much fun.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I'm just smashing Armor Force. Have you ever had Armor Force?
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Speaker 1: No, I've heard people talk about it. Does it actually
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Speaker 1: work or is it like a wives tale?
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Speaker 7: No, I think it actually works. However, it says on
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Speaker 7: the box, take one a day for two weeks.
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Speaker 2: I take like six.
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Speaker 7: But then a lot of people have warned me that
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Speaker 7: you can lose your taste buds and your sense of
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Speaker 7: smell and it's.
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Speaker 1: Not actually- You're not meant to double dose or triple
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Speaker 1: or six dose. No, because kidneys and stuff. Because there'd
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Speaker 1: be a huge amount of vitamins in it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is. Lots of echinacea, vitamin C and all
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Speaker 2: those things.
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Speaker 1: I remember my mum back in the 90s. To dad,
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Speaker 1: have you taken your echinacea? Echinacea is such a 90s herb.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so good though.
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Speaker 1: Does it work?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Does it though? If you still get sick, this armour
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Speaker 1: force is not working.
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Speaker 2: Here's the trick.
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Speaker 7: When you start getting sick, you start smashing the armour force.
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Speaker 7: And you can't stop. So you have to do two weeks. No,
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Speaker 7: you have to do a solid two weeks.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I take six.
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Speaker 7: I only like quadruple dump it the first one or
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Speaker 7: two days to try and like really nip it in
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Speaker 7: the butt.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: But you know when you can feel it, it's like
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Speaker 7: right there and it's like it's about to come out.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I just keep smashing it with armour force. Like
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Speaker 2: you will not defeat me.
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Speaker 1: And you reckon it'll work?
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Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. Yeah, well, if I'm in on Monday,
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Speaker 2: then you'll know.
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Speaker 1: If you're not, well.
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Speaker 2: Let's sue Armiforce.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't know. I don't take any vitamins, eh?
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Speaker 4: Nothing?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. If you have a healthy diet, you don't need vitamins.
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Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 1: I've heard people just call them expensive urine because you
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Speaker 1: just piss most of it out.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: Well, what vitamins apart from Armiforce are you on?
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Speaker 2: I take iron because I've got really low iron.
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Speaker 1: So you might need that, right?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: But if I've got good iron, I don't need it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but when was your last blood test?
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Speaker 1: I've never had one.
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Speaker 5: Oh.
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Speaker 11: What?
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I've said this on the show.
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Speaker 2: So you could have chlamydia and just be spreading it.
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Speaker 7: Nah.
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Speaker 1: How do you know? The doctor told me I don't
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Speaker 1: have it.
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Speaker 2: But you've never had a blood test.
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Speaker 1: I don't have chlamydia.
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Speaker 2: Chlamydia is asymptomatic. You know that. You have no symptoms.
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Speaker 1: Okay, right. But my girlfriend would be tested and she
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Speaker 1: doesn't have chlamydia, therefore I wouldn't be spreading it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah. So she's had a test since she's been
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Speaker 2: with you? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Is it a thing where every girl, once you sleep
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Speaker 1: with them, they go and get a test?
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Speaker 2: Is that what you do? Yeah. A hundred percent.
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Speaker 7: When I met my husband, I... Like a couple of
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Speaker 7: months afterwards, I went and got a test.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Every woman does it, right? You don't trust the guy.
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Speaker 2: If you've given me anything. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And he didn't, right?
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Speaker 2: No, he didn't. And then once I was like, right,
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Speaker 2: I've got a clean slate. I was like, great, we're
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Speaker 2: good to go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And now if I get anything, you die.
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Speaker 1: Oh, can you imagine if you got chlamydia now? It's
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Speaker 1: the toilet seat.
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Speaker 2: It was a koala at the zoo.
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Speaker 1: What were you doing with the koala?
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Speaker 2: Cuddling it. I'm pretty sure koalas carry chlamydia.
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Speaker 1: They do, but I think it's more eye chlamydia. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: hopefully you're on the course.
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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm all good and hopefully you're all good too.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we're great. All right. So, yeah, like I said,
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Speaker 1: Sandra Sully coming up on the show, that'll be really
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Speaker 1: impactful because she was on air covering it, the only
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Speaker 1: person in Australia when it happened. Now, Lindsay Clancy, you're
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Speaker 1: into it, but your friends are really into this murder trial.
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Speaker 1: So she's charged with murdering her three children in a.
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Speaker 2: So she's admitted to actually doing it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but saying that it was what?
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Speaker 2: Well, no.
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Speaker 7: So the prosecution are trying to say that she was
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Speaker 7: in a perfectly normal state of mind, whereas her lawyer
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Speaker 7: has come out to defend her saying, like, she was
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Speaker 7: in postpartum psychosis.
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Speaker 10: Right.
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Speaker 7: They're trying to basically get her admitted to a hospital
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Speaker 7: to see out her sentence.
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Speaker 1: And the whole world.
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Speaker 2: Not get her acquitted, but, yeah, the whole world is.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: especially women, especially mothers.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and I would have thought mothers would not be
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Speaker 1: supporting her, but a lot of mothers.
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Speaker 2: Are, right? And I think that's the thing, because....
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Speaker 7: For me, I can't read too much into it because
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Speaker 7: I get really upset. I've got three of my own kids.
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Speaker 7: I can't even fathom it. But I feel like the
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Speaker 7: system failed her. I feel like she was reaching out
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Speaker 7: for help, crying out for help. And she just didn't
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Speaker 7: get what she needed.
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Speaker 1: Well, we've got an American reporter that was actually in
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Speaker 1: the courtroom with a mistrial that happened this week. And
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Speaker 1: we're going to chat to her. And we're doing tradie
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Speaker 1: versus lady. Your chance to go see Dom Dollar. Let's
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Speaker 1: get into it right now. Here we go.
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Speaker 2: Morning, Emily.
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Speaker 9: Hello.
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Speaker 1: Good morning.
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Speaker 12: How are we doing, guys?
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Speaker 2: Good morning. How are you?
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Speaker 5: I am fantastic, thank you.
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Speaker 4: That's good.
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Speaker 2: Are you on your way to work or you've got
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Speaker 2: the day off?
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Speaker 5: No, I'm actually at work. I'm about to finish night shift.
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Speaker 4: Oh no.
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Speaker 2: So at least you can go home to bed, right?
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Speaker 5: I cannot wait.
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Speaker 2: So you work as a dog man. Is that construction?
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Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So I attach like big stuff to cranes and then
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Speaker 5: it goes from point A to point B and I
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Speaker 5: make sure it gets there safely.
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Speaker 1: Right. Dog man.
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Speaker 2: That's an interesting.
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Speaker 5: Dog man, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Dog man. I've never heard of that before. That's cool.
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Speaker 7: You drive a Holden Captiva, married with one kid. And
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Speaker 7: where exactly was this one child of yours born?
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Speaker 5: Part of her was born in my car on the
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Speaker 5: way home.
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Speaker 11: Part of her.
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Speaker 2: Well, it says here that you were booked in for
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Speaker 2: an induction and Is that because you had gone over?
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Speaker 2: Were you well and truly past your due date?
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Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, girl.
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Speaker 5: I was like 10 days over almost.
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Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 7: And so you were driving to the hospital and your
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Speaker 7: daughter was like, right, the time to arrive is right now.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I was booked for an induction. We started going into
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Speaker 5: labor early. Hospital was like, yeah, no worries. Take your time. Induction,
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Speaker 5: like your time contractions are pretty far apart. And then
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Speaker 5: they got a lot closer together, a lot faster than anticipated.
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Speaker 5: And we were an 11.
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Speaker 14: Minute drive from the hospital.
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Speaker 5: And I'm not even joking, like five, six minutes in,
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Speaker 5: I'm like, Getting a lot more uncomfortable than it should be.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Emily, I don't know how you did that.
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Speaker 7: Like those nine, the eight to ten centimetres, those two
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Speaker 7: centimetres of where you're dilating are excruciating and you're just
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Speaker 7: like raw-dogging the birth in the front seat of the car.
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Speaker 2: Like you're a superwoman.
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Speaker 5: Thank you. It was not my favourite experience.
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Speaker 2: In the world. I bet it wasn't. Did you birth
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Speaker 2: the rest of her in the hospital?
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Speaker 5: Out front, yeah, like in between, like we got on
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Speaker 5: a gurney pretty quick. The journey from the car to
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Speaker 5: the inside of the emergency department is a painful blur.
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Speaker 2: And also because the head is the most painful part.
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Speaker 7: And usually when you, once that's popped out, the body
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Speaker 7: kind of just slimes on out.
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Speaker 1: Some babies come out feet first. Is that a thing?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, they do.
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Speaker 1: No, no.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they do. But this is not the case. We
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Speaker 5: had a relatively, um, as far as like deliveries go,
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Speaker 5: it was aside from like my transition, the baby transition
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Speaker 5: was pretty textbook.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, how old is she now?
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Speaker 5: Two.
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Speaker 2: Oh, cute. Well, I'm glad she's all healthy and mum
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Speaker 2: all healthy and you recovered.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, mostly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, mostly. Just a little bit of PTSD. Probably had
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Speaker 2: to burn the car. I get it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I would pay my therapist a lot of money.
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Speaker 2: I can understand.
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Speaker 7: Weighing in at 75 kgs, it's backseat baby Emily.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to meet our tradie now. We got Matt.
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Speaker 1: How you doing, Matt?
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Speaker 9: Good, mate. How you doing?
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Speaker 1: Good, man. You're a carpenter and a concreter. Double trade.
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Speaker 1: Double dippy.
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Speaker 9: Bit of a jack of all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man. You've got a Mazda BT50. Married with two kids.
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Speaker 1: Tell us when you were 18. You moved in with, well,
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Speaker 1: she's your wife now and her parents. And did you
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Speaker 1: get caught doing something to yourself?
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Speaker 12: Oh, no.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I got rained off work one day just after
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Speaker 9: we moved in together. And I thought I was all alone.
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Speaker 9: The wife's mum's car was at the mechanic's. So I
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Speaker 9: walked in, went down the bedroom. Got nice and comfortable.
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Speaker 9: Started watching some of my favourite videos. Yeah. And before
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Speaker 9: I knew it, door burst open. I've got my pants
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Speaker 9: around my ankle with the old ball and tackle in
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Speaker 9: the hand. There's a mum standing there staring at me.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God. The future mother-in-law, yeah.
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Speaker 2: I've walked in on Ryan once.
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Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Like my husband. How do you handle that?
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Speaker 1: And it's so.
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Speaker 2: He's so awkward. Like I'll walk in and he'll go, oh,
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Speaker 2: and he's like a deer in the headlights.
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Speaker 7: And then he goes, do you want to join me?
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Speaker 9: No.
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Speaker 1: Are you offended that he's doing that instead of coming
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Speaker 1: to you?
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Speaker 4: Not at all.
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Speaker 1: And why didn't you want to join him?
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Speaker 15: Because I couldn't be.
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Speaker 2: Bothered.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Knock one out, mate.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, man. Weighing in at 79 kilos. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I got a bit of repeating there. It's caught red-handed match.
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Speaker 1: All right, Matt, your questions are coming from Amy. Let's go.
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Speaker 2: All right, Matt. Question one. What colour is an acai berry?
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Speaker 5: Purple?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we giving that? Yeah, it's dark purple.
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Speaker 1: I tried one of these. My girlfriend bought one. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I just overrated this.
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Speaker 2: Is it a sigh or a sigh-ee? I say acai.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, acai.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that the beer butt? No, that's acai. Yeah, that's acai.
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Speaker 1: It is acai.
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Speaker 2: That's acai.
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Speaker 4: Acai.
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Speaker 1: Whatever. Are you into this berry crap?
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Speaker 2: I always get acai bowls, but that's definitely wrong. Acai bowls. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I love them. Delicious. Okay, Matt, question two. On an iPhone,
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Speaker 2: what is burst mode?
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Speaker 1: Burst mode?
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Speaker 6: Burst.
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Speaker 12: Nah.
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Speaker 9: Nah.
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Speaker 7: So Burst Mode, it's the camera feature that takes multiple
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Speaker 7: photos in rapid succession.
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Speaker 1: So just like click, click, click, click, click, click.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you basically can hold your phone, like the
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Speaker 2: press button, and it goes.
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Speaker 1: Do you use it?
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Speaker 2: No, I hate it.
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Speaker 1: You're like a boomerang, I heard.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't like a boomerang. Your mum likes a boomerang.
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Speaker 2: All right, question number three.
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Speaker 7: What is the brand Nutribullet famous for selling?
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Speaker 9: A juice mixer.
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Speaker 1: Oh, what do we want to do about that?
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Speaker 2: What are they called?
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Speaker 1: Like a blender.
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Speaker 2: Hey, you got there.
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Speaker 1: You got two, man.
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Speaker 2: Two out of three.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not bad at all. Let's go back to our lady. Emily,
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Speaker 1: you ready to go?
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Speaker 12: Oh, yeah, go on then.
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Speaker 2: Good luck, Em.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you need to get at least two to
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Speaker 1: bring it to a tiebreaker and hopefully three. How many
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Speaker 1: gigabytes in a terabyte?
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Speaker 10: Um....
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Speaker 1: A thousand.
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Speaker 16: Yay!
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Speaker 1: We were talking about that yesterday because of the new iPhone.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know what Meg is
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Speaker 1: and stuff. But Nat was saying your phone's one terabyte
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Speaker 1: and the new one's two.
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Speaker 3: No, so all iPhones you can select your memory.
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Speaker 2: I've got a one terabyte and it's full. But yes,
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Speaker 2: you can get two terabytes with the new iPhone Duo
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Speaker 2: and it's like $ 5, 899.
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Speaker 6: Wow.
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Speaker 2: It's way too expensive for a phone. That is such
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Speaker 2: a rip-off.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Good work. What is... Shot creting. Shot creting. You
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Speaker 1: might know this. Workaround construction.
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Speaker 14: It's like a.
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Speaker 15: It's.
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Speaker 5: Concrete. Like, you spray it, like, on the pools and stuff, or, like,
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Speaker 5: on the surf.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll give you that, yeah. Yeah, I've seen
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Speaker 1: it on one of those, like, I don't know, the
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Speaker 1: Block or Grand Zones or something. It's like a hose,
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Speaker 1: a high-pressure hose used to spray concrete. Into surfaces. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so you've got two.
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Speaker 2: So they're already at a tiebreaker, so Emily can take
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Speaker 2: this out.
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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Why would you apply threadlocker
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Speaker 1: bolts and screws? Threadlocker.
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Speaker 2: Threadlocker to bolts and screws.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, why would you apply threadlocker to bolts and screws? Sorry.
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Speaker 5: To, like, give it, like, thread or to stop them, like, shaking.
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Speaker 5: It's like a super glue shit, right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, to stop them shaking.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: All right.
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Speaker 2: She's completely right. Yay!
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Speaker 1: All right, the girl wins.
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Speaker 15: Wow.
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Speaker 1: I did not know you were going to beat out, Matt.
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Speaker 1: Well done. A double pass to go and see Dom
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Speaker 1: Dolla's show at Marvel Stadium. You're going, Emily.
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Speaker 12: Congratulations. Thank you, guys.
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Speaker 2: Now you can go home to bed.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're waking up this morning. It is September 11,
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Speaker 1: and really hard to believe 25 years ago when the
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Speaker 1: September 11 attacks happened. No one will forget, if you're alive, obviously,
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Speaker 1: where you were when you heard it. I know personally, Amy,
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Speaker 1: I was watching the late news in bed. I was
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Speaker 1: in year 11. Yeah. And Sandra Sully came on, and
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Speaker 1: this is the moment. Have a listen.
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Speaker 17: Now to some breaking news just through and CNN is
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Speaker 17: reporting tonight that a plane has crashed into the World
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Speaker 17: Trade Center. That is all the information we have just now.
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Speaker 17: We will bring you an update as soon as the
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Speaker 17: details come to hand. But a major breaking story in
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Speaker 17: the United States. New York as we speak, you can
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Speaker 17: see the pictures there coming in now live from CNN.
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Speaker 17: The news, the details, a plane has just crashed into
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Speaker 17: the World Trade Center.
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Speaker 4: We will bring you the details as soon as we
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Speaker 4: get them.
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Speaker 1: I think from memory when it first happened, they just
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Speaker 1: thought it was a light plane or something.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I remember them all, it was just one initially.
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Speaker 1: It was one. Yeah, well, actually, we got the moment
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Speaker 1: when the second plane hit, and I think that's the
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Speaker 1: moment when everyone thought, okay, this is an attack, right?
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Speaker 1: Have a listen to Sandra here.
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Speaker 17: We can now confirm a second plane has crashed into
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Speaker 17: the second tower of the World Trade Centre. As you
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Speaker 17: can see, the pictures there, these details are literally, you know,
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Speaker 17: the events are unfolding as we speak. Again, no confirmation
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Speaker 17: of casualties or cause. The World Trade Centre in New
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Speaker 17: York is, of course, the scene of a terrorist bombing
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Speaker 17: back in 1993 in February.
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Speaker 2: That killed six people.
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Speaker 17: There is no speculation or confirmation at the moment that
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Speaker 17: terrorism is to play in this incident. but nevertheless, it
15:40
Speaker 17: cannot be discounted.
15:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, no. I remember that, like I said, lying in bed,
15:44
Speaker 1: and then I ran downstairs, and my old man, he
15:47
Speaker 1: always stayed up late, and I said, put the news on.
15:49
Speaker 3: Yeah.
15:50
Speaker 1: And we watched it, the whole thing, I remember.
15:52
Speaker 2: Just live.
15:53
Speaker 5: Live. Yeah.
15:53
Speaker 1: Would have been up till 2 or 3 in the morning.
15:55
Speaker 7: Yeah.
15:55
Speaker 1: So I think it was about 10, 30, 11 o'clock
15:57
Speaker 1: here in Australia when it happened.
15:59
Speaker 10: Yeah.
16:00
Speaker 1: And I remember that second plane. I remember watching it
16:02
Speaker 1: go in. I then remember watching it. It was an
16:05
Speaker 1: hour later. The tower started falling down. It was just like,
16:08
Speaker 1: you will never forget that. Sandra Sully is coming up later,
16:11
Speaker 1: by the way. I want to talk to her because
16:13
Speaker 1: back then we didn't really have like rolling 24 hour
16:16
Speaker 1: news and stuff like that. She was the only one
16:18
Speaker 1: on air across all of Australia.
16:20
Speaker 2: So she was on air at the time when it
16:23
Speaker 2: all happened.
16:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we'll have a chat to her later about
16:25
Speaker 1: how it happened. But from, from what I've heard that
16:28
Speaker 1: we're just doing a normal, you know, news and then
16:30
Speaker 1: sports tonight was going to come up. Remember that show?
16:32
Speaker 9: Yeah.
16:33
Speaker 1: And then all hell broke loose. We've got a little
16:35
Speaker 1: bit of something else, though. Howard Stern, big breakfast host
16:39
Speaker 1: in America. He was on air in New York at
16:42
Speaker 1: the time. So to be a bit like you and
16:44
Speaker 1: I are sitting here now and something happens, let's have
16:47
Speaker 1: a listen to how it went down on Howard Stern.
16:50
Speaker 5: I don't mean to interrupt the fun, but this is
16:52
Speaker 5: a breaking news story, a serious news story.
16:54
Speaker 13: A plane has crashed.
16:58
Speaker 1: Hold it. Into the World Trade Center.
17:00
Speaker 14: You're kidding.
17:01
Speaker 1: The World Trade Center is on fire. What is going on?
17:04
Speaker 9: Really?
17:05
Speaker 1: Let me look out my window. It's the tallest. I
17:07
Speaker 1: just heard you say that John made out with Pamela Lake.
17:09
Speaker 1: Look out the window.
17:10
Speaker 12: You can see it or you can.
17:12
Speaker 1: I don't see any fire. There's a fire at the
17:14
Speaker 1: World Trade Center.
17:15
Speaker 2: It's on the other side, Ralph, from you.
17:16
Speaker 11: Take a look, seriously.
17:17
Speaker 1: Holy crap. That's terrible.
17:19
Speaker 5: I was just there.
17:20
Speaker 1: I was at a wedding right there.
17:22
Speaker 2: Was it like one of those private places?
17:24
Speaker 1: Oh, dude.
17:25
Speaker 14: Do you see it?
17:26
Speaker 1: Dude, it's just hot.
17:27
Speaker 6: Oh, my God.
17:28
Speaker 14: I've got to go out on my roof.
17:29
Speaker 1: This is incredible. See you.
17:31
Speaker 10: The whole thing is on fire.
17:32
Speaker 1: You're right. I mean, not a little fire.
17:34
Speaker 10: No, it's huge.
17:35
Speaker 1: Oh, it's huge.
17:36
Speaker 13: The plane hits a building.
17:37
Speaker 1: I've got to run. I mean, even in that moment,
17:40
Speaker 1: you can say they didn't quite know what was going on. Yeah, incredible.
17:42
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the right word I would
17:44
Speaker 2: have used.
17:46
Speaker 1: Anyway, and then obviously we know what happened after that. But, yeah,
17:49
Speaker 1: you remember what you were doing? Everyone would. I mean, 131065,
17:53
Speaker 1: if you wanted to talk about that this morning.
17:54
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I wasn't awake.
17:58
Speaker 1: So you would have gone to bed.
17:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I remember the next day.
18:00
Speaker 1: Can we check that, by the way? Guys, what time?
18:02
Speaker 1: I think 11pm.
18:03
Speaker 2: It says 10.46pm.
18:05
Speaker 9: Yeah. Our time.
18:06
Speaker 7: I wasn't awake when it actually first happened, but I
18:08
Speaker 7: just remember waking up and my mum and dad both
18:12
Speaker 7: had the news on and it was just live coverage
18:15
Speaker 7: of it. And just the videos were being shown.
18:18
Speaker 1: Do you remember going to school? Because we went to
18:19
Speaker 1: the same school. They put the TV on in the hall,
18:22
Speaker 1: like a giant monitor. And for days we were just
18:25
Speaker 1: watching coverage of it.
18:26
Speaker 7: Yeah.
18:27
Speaker 1: It was something you'll never forget, I think. Yeah, so
18:30
Speaker 1: Sandra Sully on the show a little bit later. It'd
18:32
Speaker 1: be really interesting to speak to her about what that
18:35
Speaker 1: moment was like. It is the 11th of September. Kind
18:38
Speaker 1: of weird when your birthday is on a date like that.
18:41
Speaker 4: Yeah.
18:44
Speaker 1: Who's calling, Amy? 131065 for our first calls.
18:47
Speaker 2: Oh, Mark is on the phone. Morning, Mark.
18:51
Speaker 10: Morning, Amy.
18:52
Speaker 6: How are you?
18:53
Speaker 2: Good.
18:54
Speaker 12: I remember where I was on September 11th because I'm
18:57
Speaker 12: also born on that day.
18:59
Speaker 2: Oh, well, happy birthday.
19:01
Speaker 9: Thank you.
19:02
Speaker 12: So I was out with friends that night and we
19:05
Speaker 12: had an American, because I was in the military, we
19:09
Speaker 12: had an American serviceman with us. Now, in the whole
19:13
Speaker 12: heat of the thing, he worked at the Pentagon with
19:15
Speaker 12: his wife.
19:16
Speaker 1: Where were you, though, mate? Here in Australia?
19:19
Speaker 12: Yeah, yes, he was in Australia. So he phoned in
19:22
Speaker 12: the heat of the thing. He phoned his desk in America.
19:26
Speaker 12: She ran up to take the phone call. But if
19:29
Speaker 12: she'd been in her desk, she'd be dead now because
19:33
Speaker 12: her desk was where the Plane hit the Pentagon.
19:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, because a.
19:36
Speaker 2: Plane hit the Pentagon as well, didn't it?
19:38
Speaker 1: It was the third plane.
19:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
19:39
Speaker 1: So you're saying your mate was here in Australia with you.
19:41
Speaker 1: His wife worked in the Pentagon. He called her.
19:45
Speaker 7: And she moved where she was sitting to take the
19:48
Speaker 7: phone call and that essentially.
19:50
Speaker 2: Saved her life.
19:51
Speaker 12: Yes, because he told his desk, not her desk.
19:54
Speaker 2: Wow.
19:55
Speaker 1: That's just, I mean, what a story, man. And then
19:59
Speaker 1: you were with him when the planes hit and stuff
20:01
Speaker 1: like that?
20:02
Speaker 12: Yeah, because we then had to, we were all drunk,
20:06
Speaker 12: but we had to go back to work because We
20:09
Speaker 12: worked in a sort of a military thing that worked
20:12
Speaker 12: with the Americans and all that. So we had to
20:14
Speaker 12: all go into work late at night.
20:17
Speaker 7: Yeah.
20:18
Speaker 3: Wow.
20:18
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah.
20:19
Speaker 1: Well, he saved a life.
20:20
Speaker 2: He saved his wife's life.
20:21
Speaker 1: Yeah. 131065 doing first calls. Guy's on. Hi, Guy.
20:25
Speaker 2: Hi, Guy.
20:26
Speaker 15: Hey, how you going, guys?
20:28
Speaker 5: Good.
20:28
Speaker 1: You wanted to talk about 9-11 as well.
20:30
Speaker 15: Yeah, so at the time, I was training to be
20:34
Speaker 15: a motor mechanic in the UK. I was originally from
20:36
Speaker 15: the UK, been over here for 11 years.
20:37
Speaker 1: Yeah.
20:38
Speaker 15: And, yeah, all we heard was a light plane hit
20:42
Speaker 15: one of the towers at college, and, yeah, we thought, oh, well,
20:45
Speaker 15: you know, that's a bit out there.
20:46
Speaker 1: Thought it was an accident.
20:48
Speaker 7: I think everyone thought the first one was just an
20:50
Speaker 7: accident or maybe like a rogue.
20:52
Speaker 1: Yeah.
20:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, pilot.
20:53
Speaker 1: Well, we heard Sandra Sully before they did. They thought
20:55
Speaker 1: it was a light plane.
20:56
Speaker 2: Plane.
20:57
Speaker 1: And I think it was like eight... 46 in the morning,
21:00
Speaker 1: the first one, and then 903, the second one, something
21:03
Speaker 1: like that. So that time period then, everyone just thought
21:06
Speaker 1: it was a horrible accident. Yes. I mean, how could
21:08
Speaker 1: you not see those two towers? But that's what people thought, yeah.
21:13
Speaker 15: Well, I mean, yeah, because I finished up from college
21:17
Speaker 15: at 5 o'clock, went home, and when I got home,
21:20
Speaker 15: my mum had it on the TV, and it became
21:21
Speaker 15: very apparent that it wasn't a live plane at all.
21:24
Speaker 15: And I got there just in time. to see the
21:27
Speaker 15: second plane hit. And all I can say is throughout
21:33
Speaker 15: the whole of my life it's been the most shock
21:35
Speaker 15: and awe moment ever. And then we were obviously glued
21:40
Speaker 15: to the TV and then we saw both the towers
21:43
Speaker 15: collapse and to see that many lives lost in that
21:48
Speaker 15: short of time frame.
21:50
Speaker 6: You could really feel the loss.
21:52
Speaker 1: I'm with you, man, because I remember being up. I
21:54
Speaker 1: remember seeing that plane, that second plane hit. And the
21:58
Speaker 1: TV person at the time was like, another one's hit.
22:00
Speaker 1: And they weren't quite sure. They thought it was like
22:02
Speaker 1: a replay. They rewound it.
22:03
Speaker 2: And then when did the third one hit the Pentagon?
22:06
Speaker 1: Not long after. Maybe within that hour.
22:09
Speaker 7: Could you imagine if something like that happened now? Like
22:11
Speaker 7: back in 25 years ago, there was no social media.
22:14
Speaker 2: No.
22:15
Speaker 1: On the videos that would be around now.
22:17
Speaker 7: The videos that would come out now about it would
22:19
Speaker 7: be horrific because you'd have people close by, further away
22:22
Speaker 7: from their apartment buildings.
22:24
Speaker 2: It would have just been the live coverage.
22:26
Speaker 1: I mean, it was crazy then, but yeah, all we
22:29
Speaker 1: had was TV, right? All right, one of our listeners
22:31
Speaker 1: sent a, well, I'm going to say shocking screenshot to
22:34
Speaker 1: our producers yesterday, Amy. And we don't know how we
22:38
Speaker 1: missed it. So you were in Italy with your husband
22:41
Speaker 1: for a 10-year anniversary trip. How was it?
22:45
Speaker 2: It was lovely.
22:46
Speaker 9: Yeah?
22:46
Speaker 1: You enjoyed your time there?
22:47
Speaker 6: Yeah.
22:48
Speaker 2: I mean, who doesn't enjoy their time in Italy?
22:50
Speaker 1: I reckon there's people that could go and go, no,
22:52
Speaker 1: this is awful.
22:53
Speaker 2: I highly doubt it. But, yeah, no, it was lovely.
22:56
Speaker 2: Nice weather, good food, drinks.
22:58
Speaker 1: What did you get up to? Like anything out of
22:59
Speaker 1: the ordinary?
23:00
Speaker 2: We did a lot of eating and drinking and swimming.
23:02
Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
23:03
Speaker 1: And wine tasting.
23:03
Speaker 2: What did you pack? What did I pack? Clothes.
23:07
Speaker 1: So anything else that maybe a listener would have sent
23:09
Speaker 1: a screenshot of to us?
23:15
Speaker 12: No.
23:15
Speaker 2: A hair straightener?
23:17
Speaker 1: Well.
23:18
Speaker 2: We've already played the one where I accidentally let one slip.
23:21
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. I mean, it is a machine. Oh, yeah. Yeah?
23:26
Speaker 1: Is it true you take your sex toys with you
23:28
Speaker 1: on an anniversary trip? Can you explain this?
23:31
Speaker 2: Firstly... Yes. Why wouldn't I? I don't know. What do
23:38
Speaker 2: you mean? Like that is a huge shocking relevation. You
23:43
Speaker 2: took a photo of it?
23:44
Speaker 7: You know, I am very good friends with Rach.
23:48
Speaker 2: It's a little device. It's not anything.
23:51
Speaker 7: Aggressive and big phallic looking. It looks like the pear.
23:54
Speaker 7: So I've actually coined it the pear.
23:56
Speaker 2: It looks like a pear. It's in the shape of
23:58
Speaker 2: a pear.
24:00
Speaker 1: Are we looking at it now?
24:01
Speaker 12: Yeah.
24:02
Speaker 2: They'll bring it up for you. See that? That's what
24:04
Speaker 2: it looks like.
24:06
Speaker 5: Oh.
24:06
Speaker 2: So it's actually in the shape of a pear.
24:08
Speaker 1: Right.
24:08
Speaker 7: This is good education for men. I talk about it
24:11
Speaker 7: always on my socials because.
24:14
Speaker 1: Amy Gerard. Bell's back.
24:15
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, Amy Gerard. Socials, yes. Oh, no, she's coming
24:18
Speaker 2: to get the bell. Come and get the bloody bell.
24:20
Speaker 2: Burn the bell.
24:21
Speaker 13: I did.
24:23
Speaker 1: And I had it. You can't hold it and ring it.
24:25
Speaker 1: I had it lubricated up so it sounds louder.
24:27
Speaker 9: Yeah.
24:29
Speaker 2: So the pair comes with me. Yeah, the pair comes
24:31
Speaker 2: with me everywhere.
24:33
Speaker 1: Why, though? You're on an anniversary trip with your husband.
24:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we.
24:37
Speaker 1: One would think one doesn't need that one.
24:39
Speaker 2: Well, okay.
24:40
Speaker 7: I mean, do we really want to get into my
24:43
Speaker 7: sex life on the show here?
24:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:45
Speaker 1: I'll put the music down, too.
24:46
Speaker 2: Oh, gosh. Oh, my God. Put the bed back up.
24:50
Speaker 1: It's so.
24:51
Speaker 9: It's awkward.
24:52
Speaker 2: It's so awkward.
24:53
Speaker 9: Yeah.
24:54
Speaker 2: It is. It's empowering for me to take that with me.
24:57
Speaker 2: You know, Ryan and.
24:58
Speaker 7: I enjoy being intimate together. That's part of our marriage
25:04
Speaker 7: and our relationship.
25:05
Speaker 2: I would hope so.
25:06
Speaker 7: And, yeah, well, you would hope so, especially after being
25:09
Speaker 7: married for 10 years.
25:10
Speaker 10: Yeah.
25:10
Speaker 7: And if the pair can come out and we can
25:13
Speaker 7: both hit a home run, then why wouldn't I bring it?
25:16
Speaker 2: Otherwise, sometimes it takes me a little longer to get there.
25:19
Speaker 1: Yeah. How often would you guys need the pair?
25:22
Speaker 2: Every time.
25:23
Speaker 6: Oh.
25:24
Speaker 1: He's not offended?
25:26
Speaker 2: No, he loves it.
25:27
Speaker 1: It's not like replacing him?
25:28
Speaker 2: He's the one that's like, get the pair out.
25:31
Speaker 1: Oh, I just want to watch the footy, get the
25:33
Speaker 1: pair out.
25:34
Speaker 13: No.
25:36
Speaker 2: Not every time.
25:37
Speaker 7: Like if there's just a quick thing in the bathroom,
25:41
Speaker 7: you know, while the kids are downstairs and stuff like that.
25:44
Speaker 2: No, I don't bother then. Right, right. But like.
25:48
Speaker 2: And it's not like it's there straight away. It's more.
25:51
Speaker 1: Because that would be offensive, right? He goes to kiss
25:54
Speaker 1: you and you're like, hold on. Bring out the pair.
25:57
Speaker 2: Potentially. But I think most secure men wouldn't have an
26:01
Speaker 2: issue with it.
26:02
Speaker 1: I reckon there would be men that, I don't care.
26:04
Speaker 1: I reckon there would be men that are bothered by that.
26:06
Speaker 2: 100% there would be.
26:07
Speaker 1: Who's not replacing me?
26:08
Speaker 2: But it's not about replacing him. Like, you know, the
26:11
Speaker 2: pair's great on its own. Yeah. And so is Ryan.
26:14
Speaker 2: But they're better together.
26:16
Speaker 8: Right.
26:17
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:18
Speaker 1: So it's a form of replacement.
26:20
Speaker 2: No, it's not a form of replacement.
26:23
Speaker 9: Okay.
26:23
Speaker 2: It just means that if the pair's not around, Ryan
26:25
Speaker 2: has to hold out longer.
26:26
Speaker 1: Ha, ha, ha. So the pair is Ryan's friend.
26:30
Speaker 2: Exactly right. And my friend.
26:32
Speaker 7: And can I just say, so many, hundreds and hundreds
26:37
Speaker 7: and hundreds of women have bought the pair since I've
26:40
Speaker 7: been raving about it. And I've had women message me
26:43
Speaker 7: being like, I have never, ever had an orgasm.
26:46
Speaker 1: Really?
26:46
Speaker 2: And thanks to the pair I have.
26:47
Speaker 1: Like, ever?
26:49
Speaker 7: It is an incredible product. Rachel, the founder, is doing
26:52
Speaker 7: God's work for women.
26:53
Speaker 2: Because, yeah, I just.
26:56
Speaker 7: Why shouldn't women be able to enjoy self-pleasure and get
26:59
Speaker 7: themselves there with or without a partner?
27:01
Speaker 1: Was that the first thing you packed when you did
27:04
Speaker 1: your packing for Italy? I need the pants.
27:06
Speaker 7: It wasn't the first thing, no, but I was almost
27:09
Speaker 7: wrapping up and I was like, oh.
27:11
Speaker 1: Oh, the pear.
27:11
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
27:12
Speaker 2: It's Saturday, Sunday.
27:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. And this will make you paranoid before
27:16
Speaker 1: the weekend. Science has confirmed what a lot of us
27:21
Speaker 1: have thought. I don't know what your thoughts on this are.
27:23
Speaker 1: Once a cheater, always a cheater.
27:27
Speaker 2: Oh, I disagree with that.
27:29
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, a study has been done by a psychologist,
27:31
Speaker 1: University of Denver, and they have found if you cheat once,
27:36
Speaker 1: you are three times more likely to cheat twice. again.
27:41
Speaker 1: So if you've cheated once, you're going to cheat again.
27:45
Speaker 1: I feel definitely in the relationship, right? If that person
27:49
Speaker 1: cheats on you once and then you forgive them, it's
27:52
Speaker 1: like a permission. But I also feel like it's a
27:55
Speaker 1: type of person that plays up.
27:57
Speaker 7: I also, I remember talking to my brother about this
28:00
Speaker 7: and he has this analogy. He reckons that If someone's
28:03
Speaker 7: cheating and they consistently get away with it, they're just
28:06
Speaker 7: going to constantly cheat, right?
28:07
Speaker 2: Well, why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they?
28:10
Speaker 7: Whereas there's two types of cheaters, the ones that never
28:12
Speaker 7: get caught and do it forever and the ones who
28:15
Speaker 7: get caught and almost become like reformed better citizens.
28:19
Speaker 1: Right, and do you think it could be circumstantial as well,
28:21
Speaker 1: like they weren't happy in that relationship or something?
28:23
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I also think some people when they're younger
28:26
Speaker 7: in their 20s, I'm not condoning it by any means,
28:28
Speaker 7: but they're not super serious about their partner at the
28:32
Speaker 7: time and they might play up a bit. I think
28:35
Speaker 7: just because they've done that in their early 20s and
28:38
Speaker 7: let's say they then... get married to somebody, I don't
28:41
Speaker 7: think that that means that marriage is going to be
28:43
Speaker 7: tarnished with infidelity either.
28:44
Speaker 1: Because that relationship wasn't as serious. Is that what you mean?
28:46
Speaker 1: I can see where you're coming from.
28:47
Speaker 7: Well, and I just think people grow up and they
28:49
Speaker 7: mature and then, you know, they find the right person
28:53
Speaker 7: for them.
28:54
Speaker 9: Yep.
28:54
Speaker 1: I get you. Well, what about this? Yeah. If you're
28:57
Speaker 1: the victim of cheating, you're two to four times more
29:00
Speaker 1: likely to be cheated on again.
29:03
Speaker 9: Yeah.
29:04
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like it's your fault.
29:06
Speaker 2: Have you ever been cheated on? I have.
29:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I could never... You know what killed me?
29:10
Speaker 2: Yeah?
29:10
Speaker 1: Is I could never quite prove it. And I know, like,
29:13
Speaker 1: I know this chick. She was playing up, man. Oh,
29:17
Speaker 1: she was. But I just couldn't prove it.
29:19
Speaker 11: Oh, see.
29:20
Speaker 1: But anyway, that means I'm... Two to four times more
29:23
Speaker 1: likely to be cheated on again.
29:25
Speaker 2: Have you only been cheated on once?
29:27
Speaker 1: Well, that girl, I reckon she was doing it multiple times.
29:30
Speaker 1: She was a lowie. A lot of fun, though. Just
29:33
Speaker 1: shouldn't have tried to wife her. But what about you?
29:35
Speaker 1: You been cheated on?
29:37
Speaker 2: No, not to my knowledge.
29:38
Speaker 15: Yeah.
29:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, not.
29:40
Speaker 2: To my, I mean, not to anyone's knowledge, right?
29:42
Speaker 6: Right.
29:43
Speaker 2: But no, I've never actually caught a partner. I had, yeah. No,
29:48
Speaker 2: not really.
29:49
Speaker 1: Oh, well, you're fine then. And you've never cheated and
29:51
Speaker 1: never been cheated on. You never even patched a guy?
29:54
Speaker 5: No.
29:55
Speaker 7: Oh, I think like I remember being in high school
29:57
Speaker 7: and I had a boyfriend and then I went out
30:00
Speaker 7: and kissed another guy.
30:01
Speaker 2: That's cheating. So I went home, yeah, but I went
30:03
Speaker 2: home and broke up with him.
30:05
Speaker 5: Oh, right.
30:06
Speaker 1: You did the right thing.
30:07
Speaker 2: Well, because I was like, oh, I kissed another guy
30:08
Speaker 2: and he was like, I'm not okay with that. And
30:09
Speaker 2: I was like, well. That's the end of us then.
30:12
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I suppose you're not really a cheater then.
30:15
Speaker 2: Not if I... Yeah, cheaters are the people who conceal
30:18
Speaker 2: and hide the evidence, right? Yeah.
30:19
Speaker 1: Also, let's go with your analogy of you were young.
30:23
Speaker 1: That didn't count.
30:24
Speaker 2: I was like a fetus.
30:25
Speaker 5: Yeah.
30:25
Speaker 1: But you haven't like pashed anyone since you've been with
30:27
Speaker 1: Ryan or anything.
30:28
Speaker 2: Oh, I sleep with people all the time.
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Speaker 9: No, not.
30:32
Speaker 2: I could not. Where do I have the time? I've
30:34
Speaker 2: also got three kids.
30:35
Speaker 1: You've got no time to cheat.
30:37
Speaker 13: No.
30:38
Speaker 2: And also, I just wouldn't.
30:39
Speaker 11: Like, no.
30:40
Speaker 2: I'm content.
30:41
Speaker 1: What do you think, Nat? Once a cheater, always a cheater?
30:43
Speaker 1: You believe with a study? Believe the study?
30:45
Speaker 18: No.
30:46
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm with Amy here. So if you're like
30:48
Speaker 2: a cheater in your marriage, I think you would cheat again.
30:51
Speaker 9: Yeah.
30:51
Speaker 2: Because you don't respect a relationship. If it's like an
30:54
Speaker 2: early days thing, nah.
30:55
Speaker 1: So we can all agree you're allowed to cheat until
30:57
Speaker 1: you're what, 21?
30:59
Speaker 2: You're not allowed. We're not giving anyone a green light.
31:02
Speaker 1: No. All right. Hey, this is really exciting. Alec the Pom,
31:09
Speaker 1: you know, one of our producers here. You hear him
31:11
Speaker 1: do our birthday wheel. Alec, you're trying to get on
31:14
Speaker 1: the chase. You're auditioning to be on the chase. Is
31:18
Speaker 1: this true? Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 8: I'm really excited. I applied like ages ago and then
31:22
Speaker 8: completely forgot about it. And then, yeah, yesterday I got
31:25
Speaker 8: a call asking me to audition.
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Speaker 2: You did, didn't you?
31:27
Speaker 1: Actually, come into the studio, mate.
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Speaker 8: Okay, coming.
31:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got a call yesterday for the audition process.
31:33
Speaker 2: Isn't it, Chase? It's really hard.
31:35
Speaker 7: Some of the questions are quite hard.
31:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, were you just doing it on a whim
31:39
Speaker 1: or you actually think you could get through or what's
31:42
Speaker 1: the deal?
31:43
Speaker 8: I think I'd be all right at it. Like, I'm
31:45
Speaker 8: all right at a pub trivia. I did a pub
31:47
Speaker 8: trivia by myself once and I beat teams that had
31:49
Speaker 8: multiple people.
31:50
Speaker 1: By yourself? Yeah.
31:52
Speaker 2: Are you quite smart?
31:53
Speaker 1: I'm smart-ish. But everyone else is in a group, and
31:56
Speaker 1: you're just sitting there by yourself.
31:58
Speaker 8: I only went in to charge my phone, and then
31:59
Speaker 8: this woman was like, hey, do you want to do
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Speaker 8: the trivia? And I was like, yeah, go on then.
32:02
Speaker 10: So what did you do?
32:03
Speaker 1: You went on the website, signed up.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, applied, gave more information, then heard nothing for months.
32:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then yesterday you got a call.
32:10
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I completely forgot about it.
32:11
Speaker 2: I was well excited.
32:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a phone call audition.
32:15
Speaker 8: Yeah, they wanted to know things about me. They asked
32:17
Speaker 8: me loads of questions, just to suss out if I'd
32:20
Speaker 8: be good TV talent.
32:22
Speaker 2: Okay. Was.
32:24
Speaker 1: Was the person you spoke to, was her name Carly? Yeah.
32:27
Speaker 1: Do you know her? Oh, we know her. Yeah. That
32:31
Speaker 1: was someone here, mate. There was no chase.
32:34
Speaker 8: You're kidding.
32:34
Speaker 7: No.
32:35
Speaker 1: Well, let's have a listen to the phone call. This was, yeah.
32:38
Speaker 1: Our producers knew that you were replying. You've got to
32:42
Speaker 1: remember you don't tell people stuff here. Oh, look how
32:44
Speaker 1: sad he looks. Yeah.
32:45
Speaker 2: Who did this to you, Alec?
32:47
Speaker 1: Who was it? This is our friend Nettie from downstairs,
32:50
Speaker 1: level 16. Oh, sorry, Carly. Have a listen to Carly.
32:54
Speaker 17: Oh, my God.
32:57
Speaker 2: They would have been so enthusiastic.
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Speaker 10: Hello?
33:02
Speaker 2: Hi, Alec.
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Speaker 10: That's me.
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Speaker 16: This is Carly. I'm part of the team at The Chase.
33:07
Speaker 16: I just wanted to have a quick chat about your
33:08
Speaker 16: application to be a contestant. Do you happen to have
33:10
Speaker 16: a few minutes?
33:12
Speaker 10: I can have a couple of minutes, yeah.
33:13
Speaker 16: Amazing. Thank you. I've just got a few questions, and
33:16
Speaker 16: what we're really looking for is to get a sense
33:18
Speaker 16: of your personality, really who you are.
33:20
Speaker 10: Yeah, sounds good to me.
33:21
Speaker 16: Okay, first question. Can you describe yourself in one sentence?
33:26
Speaker 10: Um, bloody hell. Slightly chaotic. I enjoy being alive.
33:33
Speaker 16: Why do you want to be on The Chase?
33:34
Speaker 10: Oh, I bloody love The Chase. When I was at uni,
33:37
Speaker 10: me and my housemates always used to watch it at
33:39
Speaker 10: tea time. It is my favourite quiz show.
33:41
Speaker 16: Are there any topics that you're super knowledgeable on?
33:43
Speaker 2: Um.
33:46
Speaker 10: Music from the noughties and 2010s, I'm pretty solid on.
33:51
Speaker 10: Like in pub trivia, that's always where I really shine.
33:54
Speaker 5: Okay.
33:55
Speaker 16: What's your taste in music like?
33:57
Speaker 10: Oh, God, my music taste is so daggy.
33:59
Speaker 9: All of it.
34:01
Speaker 10: I love camp stuff.
34:02
Speaker 16: Can you give me an example?
34:04
Speaker 10: I think the best song ever made is California Girls
34:06
Speaker 10: by Katy Perry.
34:07
Speaker 18: Really?
34:08
Speaker 16: You think that's the best song ever made?
34:10
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
34:11
Speaker 10: Absolutely.
34:12
Speaker 16: Do you have any hobbies?
34:14
Speaker 6: Um.
34:15
Speaker 10: I used to go to Krav Maga classes. I've not
34:18
Speaker 10: picked it up again since I've been in Australia. But
34:21
Speaker 10: I got to a yellow belt in that, which is
34:24
Speaker 10: they give you a white belt just for showing up.
34:26
Speaker 10: And then the yellow belt is the next one after that.
34:29
Speaker 10: So I wasn't very good at it. Other than that,
34:32
Speaker 10: I'm a bit dull.
34:33
Speaker 16: Would you describe yourself as good looking?
34:38
Speaker 10: I'd describe myself as having potential. If I dropped 20 kilos,
34:42
Speaker 10: I'd be all right.
34:43
Speaker 16: Now, getting a little bit more personal with you, are
34:46
Speaker 16: you single?
34:47
Speaker 10: Very much so. Why, do you know someone?
34:53
Speaker 16: Is there anything in your past we should know about?
34:55
Speaker 16: Any scandals or any skeletons in your closet?
35:00
Speaker 10: I once had to apologise to a lord.
35:02
Speaker 2: A lord?
35:04
Speaker 10: A proper lord, yeah, who sat in the House of
35:07
Speaker 10: Lords in the UK. He came in to do a
35:09
Speaker 10: talk at my school. At the end, he's like, right,
35:12
Speaker 10: You can ask me any question in the world, and
35:14
Speaker 10: I will do my best to answer it. And nobody
35:18
Speaker 10: asked anything, and there was this awkward pause. And I
35:21
Speaker 10: was sat right at the front, and I was like, well, see,
35:24
Speaker 10: if nobody else is going for it, I will. And
35:26
Speaker 10: I stood up, and I was like, good morning, Your Lordship.
35:28
Speaker 10: What was it like when you were arrested? Which he was,
35:32
Speaker 10: but cleared of all charges. But he really hated that question,
35:35
Speaker 10: and I had to write a letter of apology. And
35:37
Speaker 10: I'm told by people who've met him since that he
35:40
Speaker 10: always brings this up. about the incident that happened when
35:43
Speaker 10: he visited the school. He's like, oh, that horrible boy.
35:46
Speaker 10: Someone put him up to it. It was just me
35:48
Speaker 10: being a dickhead.
35:49
Speaker 16: Alec, thank you so much for your time today. I've
35:51
Speaker 16: really enjoyed chatting to you. We think you'd be a
35:53
Speaker 16: great fit.
35:54
Speaker 10: Oh, man, really?
35:56
Speaker 16: Absolutely. We'd love to have you.
35:57
Speaker 6: That's sick.
35:58
Speaker 16: Welcome to The Chase.
35:59
Speaker 10: Thank you so much. My mum's going to love this.
36:01
Speaker 2: And we'll be in touch.
36:02
Speaker 10: Oh, we're sorry.
36:03
Speaker 1: Alec, you're so cute. There was no Carly.
36:07
Speaker 2: I like being alive. Describe yourself in one word.
36:11
Speaker 8: So we're not going on the chase?
36:12
Speaker 1: You are not going on the chase. No, you are not.
36:15
Speaker 2: No, we don't know. He could be. Just not yet.
36:18
Speaker 2: He hasn't been rejected. We just faked a call.
36:21
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
36:21
Speaker 2: There's still hope for you.
36:24
Speaker 17: Oh, Lord.
36:24
Speaker 2: You answered those questions really well, though. I was so vulnerable.
36:28
Speaker 2: You were really good.
36:29
Speaker 1: I would put him on. Like he was that good thing, yeah. Sorry, sorry.
36:34
Speaker 6: Um.
36:35
Speaker 1: This is.
36:37
Speaker 8: I don't know how to say this, but Larry Emder
36:39
Speaker 8: has called through, the host of The Chase.
36:41
Speaker 10: He was listening to this in the car.
36:43
Speaker 6: Hello, good morning.
36:45
Speaker 2: Hi, Larry.
36:45
Speaker 6: Good morning, guys. Alec, nice job.
36:49
Speaker 1: Can we put him on there? I mean, you just
36:50
Speaker 1: heard our fake audition.
36:53
Speaker 2: Yeah.
36:54
Speaker 6: Look, I don't think so. Once you start throwing out
36:56
Speaker 6: things like, I love Katy Perry, I'm not sure, but.
37:01
Speaker 6: But Alec, mate, I love the heart and the enthusiasm
37:04
Speaker 6: that you can go to a pub and have five
37:06
Speaker 6: Southern Comforts and Coke and think, oh, yeah, I've gone
37:08
Speaker 6: on the chase.
37:09
Speaker 7: Yeah.
37:10
Speaker 5: Oh.
37:10
Speaker 1: Come on, man.
37:11
Speaker 8: So crushing.
37:12
Speaker 1: The fact you were listening and you heard it and
37:14
Speaker 1: you still won't put him on, what do you need?
37:16
Speaker 2: He likes being alive. He's got potential.
37:18
Speaker 1: He caught a lot of dirty.
37:22
Speaker 6: That's actually the bit that got me. I thought, oh,
37:25
Speaker 6: that's going to sound good on the telly, the Lord thing.
37:28
Speaker 1: What did he get arrested for?
37:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I wanted to know. What did the
37:31
Speaker 2: Lord get arrested for?
37:32
Speaker 8: It's quite boring. There was some, like, late naughty scandal
37:34
Speaker 8: where people were donating to politicians and getting, like, Lordships
37:37
Speaker 8: and stuff.
37:38
Speaker 2: Oh, that is boring.
37:39
Speaker 1: I thought it was sex. Yes! Sorry.
37:43
Speaker 6: I'm just glad they didn't ask me those questions when
37:45
Speaker 6: I was auditioning for the show about skeletons in the
37:47
Speaker 6: closet and things you've got to hide.
37:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, what have you got, Larry?
37:51
Speaker 17: Yeah.
37:53
Speaker 6: I think I don't have to answer now because I've
37:54
Speaker 6: got the job. I don't have to answer.
37:56
Speaker 1: So do they do that, what we faked up? They
37:59
Speaker 1: do a proper phone call?
38:01
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need to see that.
38:03
Speaker 6: And I think they run through some questions. I've never
38:05
Speaker 6: been part of the process, so I don't really know.
38:07
Speaker 7: Do you– Obviously, Alec applied a few months ago. Do
38:12
Speaker 7: you think if he hasn't heard by now, he's not owed?
38:16
Speaker 6: No, no, no, not at all. Some people come in,
38:19
Speaker 6: they say, I applied a year ago.
38:21
Speaker 2: There's still hope.
38:22
Speaker 6: You're still in the game. You're still in the game.
38:24
Speaker 1: And is there anything you can do? Like, we feel
38:27
Speaker 1: bad now that we set him up. He had his
38:29
Speaker 1: hopes up. How old yesterday you were thinking you were
38:31
Speaker 1: going on?
38:31
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was telling everyone.
38:32
Speaker 1: Everyone was so excited.
38:33
Speaker 2: And you said your mum would be so happy.
38:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.
38:38
Speaker 6: Look, I think it was a pretty good audition. Alec,
38:42
Speaker 6: I reckon, like, mate, for $ 100, I can make sure
38:46
Speaker 6: the right people see that.
38:47
Speaker 1: There we go. A bit of bribery. Corruption. Have you
38:50
Speaker 1: had a contestant on there that you hate?
38:53
Speaker 13: No.
38:54
Speaker 8: No.
38:55
Speaker 6: I'm not a hater.
38:56
Speaker 1: You like them all? Yeah. All right, so $ 100.
38:59
Speaker 6: I love it that I'm there for their journey, like
39:02
Speaker 6: standing next to them as they go on this. crazy
39:04
Speaker 6: ride so no i i really feel i'm excited for
39:07
Speaker 6: them i feel for them if they miss out no
39:08
Speaker 6: absolutely i'm on their side.
39:10
Speaker 8: All right 100 bucks and you'll get on i can
39:13
Speaker 8: scrape something together after payday yeah i'd.
39:17
Speaker 1: Love him it's a deal i think yeah well why
39:21
Speaker 1: don't we put him on hold go and get his
39:22
Speaker 1: uh pay id yeah see you soon larry yeah see
39:25
Speaker 1: you mate hey you can watch the chase The Pom
39:27
Speaker 1: won't be on there, apparently. The Chase Australia 5pm weeknights
39:31
Speaker 1: on 7 and 7+. You might even see Alec there
39:35
Speaker 1: one day.
39:36
Speaker 10: Nah.
39:37
Speaker 1: You guys are dicks. Yeah. Yeah, there it was. There
39:41
Speaker 1: was the moment Sandra Sully broke it to all of Australia.
39:45
Speaker 1: It is the 25th anniversary since September 11. And Sandra
39:50
Speaker 1: is joining us right now. Good morning.
39:51
Speaker 4: Good morning, team. How are we?
39:53
Speaker 1: Wow. I mean, so just to paint the picture, I
39:56
Speaker 1: remember I was in bed. I was a year 11
39:58
Speaker 1: or something. I was watching you on TV.
40:00
Speaker 18: Thanks for reminding me how old I am.
40:03
Speaker 1: And I still remember that. And then I ran down
40:06
Speaker 1: to my dad and I said, I'll put the news on.
40:08
Speaker 1: And we put you on and we watched the whole
40:11
Speaker 1: thing with you. Can you tell us what that moment
40:14
Speaker 1: was like? It was just an ordinary late news kind
40:17
Speaker 1: of night, right?
40:17
Speaker 4: An ordinary day.
40:18
Speaker 18: And news by its very nature is unpredictable, right? It
40:21
Speaker 18: happens without warning. I just didn't expect it to be
40:24
Speaker 18: as significant as it was that night. So, you know,
40:27
Speaker 18: typically I'd essentially put Australia to sleep with my news
40:30
Speaker 18: and everyone was winding down.
40:32
Speaker 1: Were you the only one doing late news then?
40:34
Speaker 5: Yeah.
40:35
Speaker 7: Yeah.
40:35
Speaker 9: Yeah.
40:36
Speaker 18: And, you know, we'd started news as per usual and
40:39
Speaker 18: we were in a commercial break and we were told
40:41
Speaker 18: that a small plane had gone into the World Trade
40:44
Speaker 18: Centre and I.
40:44
Speaker 4: Said, have we got the pictures?
40:46
Speaker 2: And they said, yes.
40:47
Speaker 18: I said, all right, let's have a look at them.
40:48
Speaker 18: And I went, guys, that's not a light plane. That's
40:51
Speaker 18: a jetliner.
40:52
Speaker 8: Yeah.
40:52
Speaker 18: Let's turn that around. So seven minutes after it happened,
40:55
Speaker 18: we got it to air.
40:56
Speaker 1: Okay.
40:56
Speaker 18: And then, you know, within that seven-minute window, America was
41:00
Speaker 18: in shock. Most of your broadcasters in America were literally
41:05
Speaker 18: lost for words. They couldn't believe what was actually happening
41:08
Speaker 18: because it was happening to them. The majority of your
41:11
Speaker 18: mainstream media in the U.S. was East Coast-based. So they
41:14
Speaker 18: were under attack and they were in shock. International wires
41:18
Speaker 18: went dead. So we had turned it around in seven minutes,
41:21
Speaker 18: but in 17 minutes from woe to go, which is
41:23
Speaker 18: another 10 minutes later, we knew that we needed to
41:26
Speaker 18: stay with the pictures because things were unfolding ever so rapidly.
41:30
Speaker 18: And then while we were on air, we watched the
41:33
Speaker 18: second plane go in.
41:34
Speaker 1: So you saw it as we saw it. I remember
41:37
Speaker 1: watching it.
41:38
Speaker 4: As it happened.
41:39
Speaker 1: And then you knew you were like, this is a
41:41
Speaker 1: terrorist attack.
41:41
Speaker 4: Correct.
41:42
Speaker 18: Yeah, because it was two jetliners. It wasn't mechanical failure.
41:45
Speaker 18: It wasn't a navigational error.
41:47
Speaker 4: This was a deliberate act.
41:48
Speaker 9: Yeah.
41:49
Speaker 1: And did you have like people in your ear? Like,
41:51
Speaker 1: was it just crazy in the moment?
41:53
Speaker 4: No, the newsroom was virtually empty.
41:55
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, of course, we were late at night. And
41:58
Speaker 18: I think we were on a bit later. It was
42:00
Speaker 18: always Rove's fault, you know.
42:01
Speaker 2: Because he kept us up.
42:02
Speaker 1: The Rove days, yes.
42:03
Speaker 18: And we were never on at a set time. It
42:05
Speaker 18: was always sort of a moving beast. And I think
42:10
Speaker 18: it was about quarter to 11 or something. So the
42:12
Speaker 18: newsroom had emptied and there was just Sports Tonight. Tim
42:16
Speaker 18: Webster was, you know, getting ready to go on after
42:18
Speaker 18: me and I think two producers.
42:20
Speaker 4: I had one producer.
42:22
Speaker 18: Michael Reed, and he ran out of the control room and.
42:26
Speaker 4: I looked at him as if to say, where are
42:28
Speaker 4: you going? And he went, keep talking.
42:31
Speaker 18: I went, okay, because he went in to ring the
42:34
Speaker 18: troops and also to track down, we had two reporters
42:36
Speaker 18: on the ground.
42:37
Speaker 4: So we had Michelle Stone, who was our LA correspondent.
42:40
Speaker 18: We'd flown her to New York for the US Open
42:43
Speaker 18: late and he would have just won the US Open.
42:45
Speaker 18: She was on the ground. So he said, he didn't
42:47
Speaker 18: tell me what he was doing. He just went, keep talking.
42:50
Speaker 1: Well, we've got a moment. Shall we have a listen?
42:52
Speaker 1: So I think this is when the second plane hit,
42:54
Speaker 1: but I think you can tell you don't really know
42:56
Speaker 1: what's happening. Let's have a listen.
42:58
Speaker 17: We can now confirm a second plane has crashed into
43:01
Speaker 17: the second tower of the World Trade Centre. As you
43:05
Speaker 17: can see, the pictures there, these details are literally, you know,
43:09
Speaker 17: the events are unfolding as we speak. Again, no confirmation.
43:13
Speaker 2: Of casualties or cause.
43:16
Speaker 17: The World Trade Centre in New York is, of course,
43:18
Speaker 17: the scene of a terrorist bombing back in 1993 in.
43:21
Speaker 2: February that killed six people.
43:23
Speaker 17: There is no speculation or confirmation at the moment that
43:27
Speaker 17: terrorism is to play in this incident.
43:30
Speaker 4: But nevertheless, it cannot be discounted.
43:32
Speaker 1: Do you remember that moment?
43:34
Speaker 18: Absolutely, because as random as these things are, life can be.
43:38
Speaker 18: I was an exchange student back in the day in
43:40
Speaker 18: America and I was on the East Coast in Pennsylvania
43:43
Speaker 18: and a friend of mine Through that experience, her father
43:46
Speaker 18: was rescued from the World Trade Center in 1993 by
43:50
Speaker 18: Fari's ladders in the street. And why would I know that?
43:55
Speaker 18: But I randomly did. It was sort of a back
43:58
Speaker 18: pocket moment where I yelled out to Tim Webster and
44:01
Speaker 18: the producer at Sports Tonight, because why is it frozen?
44:05
Speaker 18: I had no other information other than I had knowledge
44:09
Speaker 18: that the World Trade Center had been hit by a
44:11
Speaker 18: terrorist attack in 1993.
44:11
Speaker 4: I mean, how random? I said, get me everything you
44:15
Speaker 4: got on that.
44:16
Speaker 18: And the guys just gave me some detail. And then
44:20
Speaker 18: I asked the producer to put CNN in my ear
44:22
Speaker 18: and I just had a pen and paper.
44:24
Speaker 9: Yeah.
44:25
Speaker 7: Even listening back to you 25 years ago, I mean,
44:29
Speaker 7: I was asleep when it happened, but I remember the
44:32
Speaker 7: next day like that feeling of like heaviness, right? Does
44:36
Speaker 7: it conjure up some feelings for you when you hear
44:39
Speaker 7: yourself back?
44:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.
44:40
Speaker 2: Like does it bring up some emotion? Yeah, I think.
44:44
Speaker 18: Look, it was, you know, there's been world wars and
44:47
Speaker 18: I'm not going to sort of rank us where it fits.
44:50
Speaker 14: Of course.
44:51
Speaker 4: But no one to this day.
44:52
Speaker 18: I believe, had watched what they thought was the beginning
44:55
Speaker 18: of World War III unfold. It was unprecedented. unprecedented scenes,
45:00
Speaker 18: an unprecedented moment of that magnitude, watching it unfold. Imagine
45:05
Speaker 18: watching Pearl Harbor live. Imagine watching all of these other
45:10
Speaker 18: significant global events live.
45:12
Speaker 2: This was the first time.
45:14
Speaker 18: And 25 years ago, there were no smartphones, no social media,
45:18
Speaker 18: no Twitter, Facebook, These days you're drowning in information.
45:22
Speaker 4: Then there was a dearth of information.
45:25
Speaker 18: So I felt like everyone who watched it with me
45:29
Speaker 18: actually lived the horror and the drama of it because
45:35
Speaker 18: it was in real time.
45:38
Speaker 4: And initially you worry that it was surreal.
45:40
Speaker 1: Did you think it might have been fake?
45:42
Speaker 4: For a second.
45:43
Speaker 8: Yeah.
45:43
Speaker 18: For about 10 or 15 seconds we– I had that sinking,
45:47
Speaker 18: sick feeling that what if someone's playing a horrendous joke?
45:50
Speaker 18: And we quickly sort of determined that it wasn't. But,
45:54
Speaker 18: I mean, I was ill for a second thinking it
45:56
Speaker 18: could be. Once we determined it wasn't, then we had
45:59
Speaker 18: to go with it. And, of course, there were no
46:01
Speaker 18: facts other than what was unfolding.
46:03
Speaker 1: Because these days you'd go, oh, it's just AI or something.
46:06
Speaker 14: Of course.
46:06
Speaker 18: Well, even then, AI didn't exist. But it still could
46:10
Speaker 18: have been generated to some degree.
46:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, some sort of prank.
46:14
Speaker 2: Yeah.
46:14
Speaker 4: But we quickly determined it wasn't.
46:16
Speaker 9: Yeah.
46:16
Speaker 18: But, yeah, of course, like there's almost– it was surreal
46:20
Speaker 18: and seismic and galvanising and I still at times feel
46:27
Speaker 18: lost for words to actually fully explain what it does
46:30
Speaker 18: to me. There's always a visceral... visceral reaction and an
46:34
Speaker 18: overwhelming sense of sadness because we watched so many people die.
46:37
Speaker 18: I was just watching the vision of the falling man.
46:41
Speaker 18: Do you remember the image of the falling man?
46:43
Speaker 1: So this is the man that would have jumped out
46:44
Speaker 1: of the window and they never quite knew who he was.
46:47
Speaker 4: They found out.
46:47
Speaker 13: They did.
46:48
Speaker 18: There was a journalist in New York who wrote a
46:51
Speaker 18: story called The Falling Man and they identified Who he was,
46:54
Speaker 18: he was a chef at the restaurant at the top
46:57
Speaker 18: of the World Trade Centre and the family.
47:01
Speaker 2: That's the picture there.
47:01
Speaker 1: And you were watching all that too. I'm guessing, well,
47:04
Speaker 1: you got the CNN feed, but you would have been
47:06
Speaker 1: seeing things that people didn't necessarily see at the same time?
47:09
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
47:10
Speaker 18: If you were with me that night, we saw images
47:13
Speaker 18: that no one ever saw again after about five or
47:17
Speaker 18: six in the morning and just as.
47:18
Speaker 4: Well because they were too horrific and horrendous.
47:22
Speaker 18: But I think You know, seeing people above where the
47:24
Speaker 18: planes went in and on window ledges waving flags and clothing,
47:29
Speaker 18: desperately trying to alert authorities that they were there and
47:32
Speaker 18: please come and save us.
47:34
Speaker 4: And everybody knew that. They were going to die.
47:37
Speaker 1: And it was about 3,500 people that had died. But
47:40
Speaker 1: I hear they're talking about it a lot today, the aftermath,
47:43
Speaker 1: because all that concrete and asbestos and everything, there are
47:45
Speaker 1: many victims now.
47:47
Speaker 18: There are three times the number of victims that have
47:50
Speaker 18: been living with toxicity in New York. And just in
47:54
Speaker 18: the last 24 hours, they're now accusing New York officials
47:57
Speaker 18: of lying to them for 25 years of the toxicity
48:00
Speaker 18: that they were living with in their apartments. And New
48:04
Speaker 18: York officials allegedly deliberately deceived them and denied what they
48:09
Speaker 18: were trying to do was protect the city from liability.
48:12
Speaker 1: Well, the whole world changed that day. Sandra Sully, you
48:14
Speaker 1: were part of history here in Australia.
48:16
Speaker 4: Unfortunately.
48:17
Speaker 1: Yeah.
48:19
Speaker 18: It's always worth remembering what happened. And we're still living
48:22
Speaker 18: in the shadow of September 11. And it's worth remembering
48:25
Speaker 18: everyone who lost their lives then and as a consequence.
48:28
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming in. You can catch Sandra
48:31
Speaker 1: on 10 News First weeknights at 5 on 10 and
48:35
Speaker 1: 10 Play. Thank you, Sandra.
48:36
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
48:40
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, just quick warning. This chat is going to
48:42
Speaker 1: touch on things like death, mental illness and suicide. So
48:45
Speaker 1: a bit of a warning for you there.
48:47
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Lindsay Clancy trial has seriously gripped America for
48:50
Speaker 7: weeks and has made headlines around the entire world.
48:54
Speaker 2: So obviously.
48:55
Speaker 7: Lindsay Clancy was accused of murdering her three children. Their
48:59
Speaker 7: ages were five, three, and eight months old. She was
49:02
Speaker 7: at her Boston home in 2023.
49:03
Speaker 2: And after weeks in court, this case has been declared
49:08
Speaker 2: a mistrial.
49:09
Speaker 1: Which is huge, right? Yeah.
49:11
Speaker 2: Huge.
49:12
Speaker 7: I think there was, I don't know how many jurors,
49:14
Speaker 7: but everyone, you have to get to a unanimous decision,
49:17
Speaker 7: and there was one who wouldn't agree.
49:20
Speaker 3: Yep.
49:20
Speaker 7: So what happened and what happens next? To break it down,
49:24
Speaker 7: we've got Sierra Gillespie joining us on Zoom. She hosts
49:28
Speaker 7: the podcast Scandal on the Law and Crime Network in
49:31
Speaker 7: the US, and she's actually been inside the courtroom following
49:34
Speaker 7: everything single detail of this case.
49:37
Speaker 1: All right, Sierra, hello.
49:39
Speaker 2: Good morning.
49:40
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.
49:41
Speaker 1: All right, can you tell us what are the prosecution
49:44
Speaker 1: actually accusing her of doing?
49:46
Speaker 2: So this is.
49:47
Speaker 3: Really confusing for everyone all over. Even if you have
49:50
Speaker 3: followed the case closely, it's confusing because Lindsay Clancy admits
49:55
Speaker 3: that she killed her children. Usually in a murder case, it's,
49:58
Speaker 3: I didn't do it. I wasn't there. There was someone else.
50:00
Speaker 2: It's a whodunit.
50:01
Speaker 3: That's not the case here at all. Straight up, her
50:03
Speaker 3: defense says... Yes, Lindsay Clancy did kill the kids. The
50:08
Speaker 3: question here was criminal responsibility. Was she of sound mind
50:13
Speaker 3: at the time? So the prosecution says she was. This
50:17
Speaker 3: was cold-blooded murder calculated. She planned it out. That's kind
50:20
Speaker 3: of what goes into first-degree murder here in the States
50:23
Speaker 3: is that it needs to be premeditated. So they argue
50:26
Speaker 3: she was of sound mind. She was good to go.
50:28
Speaker 2: She planned this.
50:29
Speaker 3: She wanted her husband to leave the house so she
50:31
Speaker 3: could murder the kids. But the defense says that this
50:34
Speaker 3: was a mental break, that she's not criminally responsible because
50:38
Speaker 3: she was in the throes of postpartum psychosis. Something that's
50:41
Speaker 3: commonly known, at least here, as not guilty by reason
50:44
Speaker 3: of insanity. So it's kind of different than a normal
50:48
Speaker 3: case because we know who did it, but they're arguing
50:51
Speaker 3: her mental status at the time of the deaths.
50:54
Speaker 2: Are they trying to.
50:56
Speaker 7: get Lindsay to serve out the rest of her time
50:58
Speaker 7: in like a mental institute as opposed to jail?
51:01
Speaker 2: Exactly.
51:02
Speaker 3: That's exactly what they want because they've talked a lot
51:04
Speaker 3: about her mental health issues. They say that they want
51:06
Speaker 3: her to get help.
51:07
Speaker 7: How was Lindsay Clancy's behavior during the trial? Like I've
51:11
Speaker 7: clocked a few things, you know, her eyes, sometimes I'm like,
51:14
Speaker 7: she looks a little bit dead behind her eyes. Then
51:16
Speaker 7: I feel for her. This case is really horrible. I
51:19
Speaker 7: have three of my own children. So It hits home
51:21
Speaker 7: really hard. What was her behavior like in the courtroom?
51:24
Speaker 3: You're so right. This is such a hard case to
51:27
Speaker 3: watch because the facts are terrible. No matter whose side
51:30
Speaker 3: you're on, it's just tragic. But Lindsay inside the courtroom,
51:34
Speaker 3: because I was there inside the courtroom for a decent
51:36
Speaker 3: amount of it, she does look... She has a range
51:40
Speaker 3: of emotions, obviously, like all of us do. But she,
51:43
Speaker 3: for the most part, looked sad. Just, you know, blank face. Oftentimes,
51:49
Speaker 3: I would see her almost looking like she's zoning out,
51:52
Speaker 3: like just not with it. Other times, she did pay attention, though.
51:55
Speaker 3: She could follow along with whoever's talking. But honestly, most
51:59
Speaker 3: of the time, she looked sad. I saw her coming
52:02
Speaker 3: into the courtroom with What looked like mascara kind of
52:04
Speaker 3: running down her face as if she had been crying previously.
52:07
Speaker 3: I'd seen her cry in the courtroom. She put her
52:09
Speaker 3: head down on the desk. There was never really a
52:12
Speaker 3: time where she was happy. Again, this isn't a happy case.
52:14
Speaker 3: She was very upset most of the time.
52:17
Speaker 1: Now, then last week, a big thing happened, right? So
52:19
Speaker 1: can you explain that to us? It was like one
52:21
Speaker 1: juror that couldn't reach a verdict. It was dismissed. Explain
52:25
Speaker 1: that and tell us what happens now.
52:28
Speaker 3: So deliberations were seven days and at least how we
52:31
Speaker 3: have it here. I'm not super familiar with the judicial
52:34
Speaker 3: system in Australia, but it's.
52:36
Speaker 2: Got to be somewhat similar.
52:37
Speaker 3: But I guess I'll just explain it. So basically, we
52:39
Speaker 3: have a 12 person jury and they have to reach
52:42
Speaker 3: a unanimous verdict. So every single person has to agree
52:45
Speaker 3: on what usually it's not guilty or guilty. In this case,
52:49
Speaker 3: it could have been a myriad of different things. But
52:52
Speaker 3: the way that it ended up shaking out is that
52:55
Speaker 3: 11 of the jurors, so almost 100%, felt that she
52:59
Speaker 3: was not guilty by reason of insanity. They thought that
53:01
Speaker 3: the defense made a strong argument that she was going
53:05
Speaker 3: through a lot of mental health issues. At the time
53:06
Speaker 3: of strangling each of these kids, she was not mentally
53:09
Speaker 3: right in her mind. She wasn't criminally responsible. But there
53:12
Speaker 3: was one singular holdout, one male juror. And the way
53:15
Speaker 3: the jury was broken down, by the way, it was
53:17
Speaker 3: nine women and three men. So there were only three men,
53:21
Speaker 3: two of which agreed with the rest, but that one
53:23
Speaker 3: holdout juror. And he's the reason that this was a
53:26
Speaker 3: mistrial because they went back multiple times. The jurors came
53:29
Speaker 3: forward and said, hey, we can't reach a unanimous verdict.
53:32
Speaker 3: And the judge sent them back. I think it was
53:34
Speaker 3: three different times. I was there for it all, seven
53:36
Speaker 3: days altogether. What's going to happen? What's going to happen?
53:38
Speaker 3: And eventually, it was a mistrial. So now, I don't know.
53:42
Speaker 3: There's a lot of options, right? So the DA, Tim Cruz,
53:46
Speaker 3: for the Plymouth County District Attorney's Office, has said, we
53:49
Speaker 3: haven't decided if we're going to retry this case. Because
53:51
Speaker 3: there's so much that goes into it, right? I mean,
53:53
Speaker 3: it's taxpayer money. We've got to find a new jury pool,
53:56
Speaker 3: which you're in Australia. I'm in Massachusetts. How can we
53:59
Speaker 3: find somebody who doesn't know about this case if in
54:01
Speaker 3: Australia you guys are talking about it?
54:03
Speaker 17: True.
54:03
Speaker 3: True. Right? So that's got to be really hard. There's
54:06
Speaker 3: so many different things that go into it. Getting the witnesses,
54:09
Speaker 3: their schedules, you know, there's so many different things they
54:11
Speaker 3: got to think about. So they haven't decided yet. They
54:14
Speaker 3: could retry it as first degree murder. They could bump
54:16
Speaker 3: it down and try second degree murder or manslaughter. They
54:20
Speaker 3: could reach a plea deal with Lindsay Clancy's defense team
54:22
Speaker 3: so that we don't have to go through this at all.
54:24
Speaker 3: We kind of just would move to the sentencing phase.
54:26
Speaker 3: Or they could drop it all together and say, we
54:29
Speaker 3: had a good run.
54:30
Speaker 2: We tried it out. It didn't work.
54:31
Speaker 3: It's not worth our time and money. I don't think
54:33
Speaker 3: that's going to happen just because this case is so divisive.
54:36
Speaker 3: I would guess that it's going to go back to trial.
54:39
Speaker 3: And last week when I was in the courtroom, the
54:41
Speaker 3: judge said, all right, let's get something on the books
54:43
Speaker 3: for the fall. Meaning I don't know when that could be. What, October, November?
54:47
Speaker 2: We're in September.
54:48
Speaker 4: It's coming.
54:49
Speaker 2: I don't know. Sierra, can I ask?
54:50
Speaker 7: And I know there's so many conspiracy theories going around
54:53
Speaker 7: and like my girlfriends are adamant that there's been foul play.
54:58
Speaker 2: Do you think that there was some foul play here?
55:00
Speaker 1: I don't. I really don't.
55:02
Speaker 3: And I know that goes against TikTok and the rest
55:05
Speaker 3: of the world.
55:05
Speaker 10: No, no, no.
55:06
Speaker 3: I love a conspiracy theory. Let me just say that.
55:09
Speaker 3: But In this case, I kind of feel like the
55:11
Speaker 3: conspiracy theories took a life of their own. And it's
55:14
Speaker 3: interesting to lead into. We all want to solve a mystery.
55:16
Speaker 3: That's why we like true crime, right?
55:18
Speaker 2: Yes, we all want to be a detective. Yep. Yeah, exactly.
55:20
Speaker 3: But in this case, I really don't think that any
55:23
Speaker 3: of it holds water. Because if Patrick Clancy really did
55:27
Speaker 3: kill his children and frame his wife, Kevin Reddington is
55:31
Speaker 3: such a strong attorney. I don't think there's any way
55:34
Speaker 3: he would be pleading not guilty by reason of insanity, essentially.
55:37
Speaker 2: He would say.
55:38
Speaker 3: hold the phone, somebody else did it, and here's all
55:39
Speaker 3: the reasons why. And he didn't say that. The Commonwealth
55:42
Speaker 3: didn't charge him. I just, I don't think that the
55:44
Speaker 3: conspiracy theories hold water.
55:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, but, you know, TikTok will make you think that. Oh, yeah, yeah.
55:49
Speaker 3: Oh, God, TikTok will make you think a lot.
55:50
Speaker 1: Okay, so for now, is she in jail or is
55:53
Speaker 1: she at home?
55:54
Speaker 3: She's back at a hospital. And she also, I'll note,
55:57
Speaker 3: she's been on suicide watch since this happened in January 2023.
56:00
Speaker 2: There is a.
56:02
Speaker 1: Chance, though, that she will get off completely? So.
56:06
Speaker 3: It's a possibility. It could happen. On the jury form,
56:09
Speaker 3: there was the option for not guilty, which means she's
56:12
Speaker 3: good to go. But that wasn't the plea. So it's very,
56:17
Speaker 3: very unlikely she would be– if she was found not
56:19
Speaker 3: guilty by reason of insanity, she would be remanded to
56:22
Speaker 3: a hospital or facility.
56:23
Speaker 2: Yeah.
56:23
Speaker 1: Well, Sierra Gillespie, we will be in contact with you
56:26
Speaker 1: as soon as we know more.
56:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me.
56:29
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on.
56:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you need support or someone to talk to,
56:33
Speaker 1: Lifeline is available 24-7, 13-11-14. Now, you can get The
56:38
Speaker 1: Scandal with Sierra Gillespie on the free iHeart app and
56:42
Speaker 1: keep up with the reporting on that case on the
56:45
Speaker 1: Law and Crime Trials YouTube channel. And last calls now.
56:49
Speaker 1: Let's get you on 131065. Hello, Deb. Hi, I was.
56:54
Speaker 11: Listening to you guys talking about the Vegemite.
56:57
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah?
56:59
Speaker 11: My daughter, she's 23 now, but when she was about three, oh,
57:04
Speaker 11: it was terrible. I'm sure I got her addicted to it,
57:07
Speaker 11: to Vegemite. To the point where people would come around
57:11
Speaker 11: and say that she smells like Vegemite. And I had
57:16
Speaker 11: to think about it.
57:17
Speaker 10: Yeah.
57:18
Speaker 11: And I'm like, yeah, well, she has Vegemite toast, Vegemite sandwiches,
57:22
Speaker 11: Vegemite crackers. Everything was all about Vegemite with her.
57:24
Speaker 7: Listen, I feel like there's worse things that she could
57:27
Speaker 7: have been addicted to, Deb, and I feel like when
57:29
Speaker 7: you're three, you're eating Vegemite, but you're also wearing a
57:32
Speaker 7: little bit of it.
57:33
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, all over you.
57:34
Speaker 2: She's probably got.
57:34
Speaker 7: Some underneath her nails and on her clothes and stuff
57:38
Speaker 7: like that, so she would have smelled delicious.
57:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, how good is Vegemite? Oh, Vegemite in spaghetti bolognese.
57:44
Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't heard that.
57:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a teaspoon. Add it to the mix.
57:48
Speaker 2: I guess it's just kind of like adding salt, right?
57:50
Speaker 6: Yeah.
57:50
Speaker 2: Make it really salty. I'm going to try that.
57:53
Speaker 1: Give it a go. Yeah, teaspoon, I reckon.
57:55
Speaker 2: Do you know what I add to my spaghetti bolognese?
57:57
Speaker 1: What?
57:57
Speaker 2: Nutmeg.
57:58
Speaker 1: Oh.
58:00
Speaker 2: Try it out.
58:00
Speaker 1: Gives it a nutty flavor.
58:01
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's kind of spicy. Not spicy, but it gives
58:05
Speaker 2: it a spice. Try it.
58:06
Speaker 10: Okay.
58:07
Speaker 1: It's my secret recipe. I'll do that if you try Vegemite.
58:09
Speaker 2: Done.
58:09
Speaker 1: All right, Kate, you're on. Hello.
58:11
Speaker 2: Hey, Kate.
58:12
Speaker 10: Hello.
58:12
Speaker 11: How are you going?
58:13
Speaker 3: Good.
58:14
Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about?
58:15
Speaker 14: Thanks for having me. I'm in Melbourne, and I just
58:19
Speaker 14: wanted to let people know, I was listening to you
58:23
Speaker 14: talking about the Alanis Morissette and that sort of perinatal period, pre-pregnancy, post-pregnancy.
58:30
Speaker 5: Yes.
58:32
Speaker 14: Um, and during the pregnancy and, and really what I
58:36
Speaker 14: just wanted people to know that there's so much free
58:39
Speaker 14: stuff out there.
58:41
Speaker 2: Is there, where can they find it? Like where, how
58:44
Speaker 2: can they access it?
58:46
Speaker 14: I can send some stuff to the person that I
58:48
Speaker 14: spoke to prior to talking to you so that you
58:51
Speaker 14: can put it on your website. But I work for
58:53
Speaker 14: a place called Drummond Street Services and we run a
58:56
Speaker 14: perinatal program. It's completely free. We've got counsellors. We've got
59:00
Speaker 14: literally outreach support to go to people's homes and help
59:04
Speaker 14: them through. Also, your maternal child health nurses, they, you know,
59:10
Speaker 14: can do your screen for you to help you through that.
59:13
Speaker 14: It's a certain sort of depression scale or something that
59:18
Speaker 14: people can do is if they're concerned about their partner
59:22
Speaker 14: or they feel it themselves, it can be something that
59:28
Speaker 14: they can Ring Panda for P-A-N-D-A. My program's called Ready
59:35
Speaker 14: Steady Family. It runs all the way through the north,
59:39
Speaker 14: all the way through the west of Metro Melbourne, outreach,
59:44
Speaker 14: telephone service, online, you know, groups and seminars. So the
59:49
Speaker 14: thing is, sorry.
59:51
Speaker 2: Sorry, Kate.
59:52
Speaker 7: Is this just, is it localized in Melbourne or is
59:55
Speaker 7: it national as well? Like, I know Panda is, but
59:59
Speaker 7: Ready Steady Family, the thing that you work with?
1:00:02
Speaker 14: It's not nationalised, unfortunately, but we'd love to have the funding. Yeah.
1:00:08
Speaker 2: A little shout out.
1:00:09
Speaker 1: So there is help out there.
1:00:10
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I love what Kate's doing because it is
1:00:13
Speaker 7: such an important cause and women pre and postnatal and men,
1:00:17
Speaker 7: they need help. Bringing children into the world is such
1:00:20
Speaker 7: a big change and a big shock to the system and,
1:00:24
Speaker 7: you know, We always talk about having a village and
1:00:27
Speaker 7: having that support, and so many people don't.
1:00:30
Speaker 1: It feels like things are hopefully getting better with that.
1:00:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, getting better for sure.
1:00:34
Speaker 8: All right.
1:00:35
Speaker 1: Last call. Let's go. Peter.
1:00:36
Speaker 2: Hey, Peter.
1:00:37
Speaker 6: Spaghetti sauce.
1:00:39
Speaker 1: Oh, all right.
1:00:40
Speaker 2: Spaghetti sauce.
1:00:41
Speaker 1: So we will say I said Vegemite, Amy said Nutmeg.
1:00:44
Speaker 1: What are you adding?
1:00:45
Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
1:00:47
Speaker 13: Into spaghetti sauce. Well, look, I'm adding garlic, and it's
1:00:51
Speaker 13: a special sauce, mate. It's got to be half beef
1:00:53
Speaker 13: mince and half pork mince.
1:00:55
Speaker 9: Yes.
1:00:56
Speaker 2: Okay.
1:00:56
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. Pork. No, pork and veal.
1:00:59
Speaker 13: Virgin olive oil.
1:01:01
Speaker 7: Pork and beef mince, tomato sauce, garlic. Are you throwing
1:01:07
Speaker 7: in onion?
1:01:08
Speaker 13: We definitely don't start off with the tomato sauce, but yeah,
1:01:12
Speaker 13: start off with the garlic and the butter and the... Oh, butter.
1:01:16
Speaker 2: Oh, butter.
1:01:18
Speaker 1: Butter, yeah. You're making me want to make spaghetti bolognese.
1:01:20
Speaker 2: I make spaghetti bolognese once a week. It's like a rotating.
1:01:23
Speaker 10: It's the go-to.
1:01:23
Speaker 7: It's a rotating dish in my household that everybody eats.
1:01:27
Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. That is it for this week. Nine
1:01:31
Speaker 1: o'clock now. So tomorrow is Saturday. We'll be back on Monday.
1:01:34
Speaker 11: Yes, we will.
1:01:35
Speaker 1: I do that every bloody Friday.
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Speaker 2: With your fairy hands, yeah.
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