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- 0:00It's the worldwide sports radio network.
- 0:05The nflpa executive director Lloyd, Howell Jr.
- 0:09And chief strategy officer JC tretter have both resigned in
- 0:14Wake of a huge Union. Scandal the VIP visits for
- 0:17Howell and Associates in Champaign rooms across the
- 0:21country, likely collusion with the NFL against the players who
- 0:25he's supposed to represent in getting their guaranteed
- 0:27contracts and a shady involvement in firm that invest
- 0:31in NFL ownership, may only be the tip of the iceberg.
- 0:34Max Holloway finally overcame Dustin porier in, what was his
- 0:39retirement match in UFC 318? We will reflect on a great MMA,
- 0:43career and discuss the likely rematch of Holloway.
- 0:45And Elliot's Papyrus, that should be coming our way to the
- 0:48Delight of fight fans everywhere.
- 0:50And before we dial it up and see if Errol can retain his crown
- 0:54and King of the Hill, we will crack a six-pack with speedy and
- 0:57talk some New York, baseball on another outstanding and original
- 1:01all new and live Monday night edition of Java, and the mouth.
- 1:11Is bad. Why?
- 1:12Not put it in one of the top three offensive players in the
- 1:15league. We're gonna be looking at Aaron
- 1:25judge and saying that you can't win the big game.
- 1:27Michael Jordan said I played 82 games, you don't see the one
- 1:31doing that again where you got to go before I told you.
- 2:37Let's do it, your listening to Jabba, and the mouth.
- 2:47Be your back, ladies and gentlemen, it is a warm hot
- 2:51sticky day here in Long Island, New York and around the country.
- 2:55If you're loving the summer, I'm not.
- 2:57We're at the tail end of July. We're heading into August, and
- 3:01yes, the new episode of job in the mouth.
- 3:03You know why I am. My name is Arrow marks my
- 3:05co-host, Java, Chamberlain, and the speecher executive producer,
- 3:10Mr. Aaron Fishman, on the board as we all know, Mr. Tommy poops,
- 3:14RNR. Our man, our PR guy.
- 3:18He's in the, he's somewhere in the back room.
- 3:20You know, him as the nif, I know him as Nathan aka the job of
- 3:25man, the Joba Joba Joba as we always say yeah we have a great
- 3:29show lined up for you guys a little bit later in the show.
- 3:32I will tell you we have two very great.
- 3:35Great guests we will be talking to former 10 year NFL linebacker
- 3:39Jamie winbourne he'll be joining us at 8:45 and at night 30 will
- 3:44be talking to the one and only jet.
- 3:47Elf, he does a jet show. He does an island to show.
- 3:50He's been on a show plenty of times.
- 3:52He's got a huge following. Matt O'Leary is going to be
- 3:54joining us. So we like Matt, Matt here from
- 3:56Long Island, he's been on every single platform over the last
- 4:00couple of years. So we love them.
- 4:02So we're excited to get them on again.
- 4:04So huge following. So as everybody knows, you can
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- 4:32We have a lot of coals over the last couple of weeks, really
- 4:35last two months. But hey, you know what?
- 4:37It lets us get out to content because usually when we have a
- 4:40crazy call crazy, call like Jeff for, you know snug or one of
- 4:45these nut jobs. Usually takes up a lot of
- 4:48content time. I'm just kidding.
- 4:50Jeff, are you random? Basketball debates with Keith.
- 4:52That's true too. I miss Keith Keith is working.
- 4:55He's doing well. I heard he's getting healthy.
- 4:57You lost a lot of weight. He's doing a lot of walking so
- 4:59I'm very happy for Keith. He hasn't really been on the
- 5:03back end of our show for the last couple of weeks, but
- 5:06hopefully soon he'll be joining back in and giving us his rough
- 5:10takes for the New York Knicks. But yeah, it's it's Long Island,
- 5:14New York guys. And if you don't know where
- 5:16where registering out here, it's it's a very hot and musky place
- 5:22to live right now. This is the worst worst day,
- 5:25worst year, worst part of the months of this weather, I can't
- 5:31stand it. And and I will say this, I don't
- 5:33even want to talk about the traffic because I I don't know
- 5:35what is going on with these unions because if you're not
- 5:38seeing people stand out with, you know, stupid signs about
- 5:42what's going on in the government, know what is going
- 5:45on right now? Is they have they Shut down
- 5:47lanes and they have all these different they're filling in
- 5:51holes or opening up. You know, I don't even know what
- 5:54you call it. I and it doesn't make any sense.
- 5:57I don't understand why they're closing up different Lanes.
- 6:00It starts really through Rocky Point.
- 6:04If you know anything about Long Island all the way down to
- 6:07Manhattan, and it's just horrible on 347.
- 6:10So, stay if anybody's driving on the road, listening to us right
- 6:13now, here in Long Island, do not go on 347 right now.
- 6:17I live right off of 347 and Middle Country.
- 6:20Road is just absolutely horrible too.
- 6:22So it's not my favorite place to live.
- 6:24I do love Long Island, the cultural part of this, you know,
- 6:29this place I do like the weekends when they have the beer
- 6:32fest. I don't drink but I like to see
- 6:34people get drunk. They had the, what is, what did
- 6:38they have this weekend? They had some kind of meat meat
- 6:41thing in Santa Maria richest. I'm it'll pop into my head.
- 6:44I'll tell you guys but there were something going on in
- 6:46riches. This weekend and there was some
- 6:48kind of meat Fest and sweetie you should be at the meat Fest.
- 6:51I would be something like that. I do like barbecue.
- 6:54I don't know what types of meat it was but I do like my brother.
- 6:56It wasn't sausage. Okay so it wasn't that I'm not
- 6:59limited to just it was rips. It was a rib contest.
- 7:02A lot of our out there at Santa Moriches and it's all the best
- 7:05ribs of New York and Long Island.
- 7:07So, there was like 40, 50 different rib, you know, rip
- 7:12platforms that were over there and they were pitching hours.
- 7:15I think it was. I think it was St.
- 7:19Louis, I think it was Saint Louis Park.
- 7:21I think it was all different kinds and they were putting
- 7:24their own sauce to it. Spicy, cold hot.
- 7:28I mean old, I say cold because people like their ribs cold,
- 7:31believe it or not. There are a lot of people that
- 7:33like their ribs called so I I didn't get a chance to I'm a
- 7:36ribs eater but I didn't get a chance to go to the ribs, the
- 7:40rib contest, this this year. So unfortunately, I am going to
- 7:44the chili contest, which is going to be at Nassau and NASA
- 7:48it's going to be alright by the national Coliseum.
- 7:50They're doing some kind of like chili contest.
- 7:53I think there's like 150 companies that are going to be
- 7:56over there and they're gonna there's gonna be a big
- 7:58competition so I love my chili. So I'm gonna have the
- 8:01opportunity to go to that event. Maybe actually helped host it.
- 8:04So that'll be fun. That'll be at the tail end of
- 8:07the summer. I'll announce it.
- 8:08I think it's at the second week of August, so it'll be alright
- 8:12by the national Coliseum. If you guys want to go also,
- 8:14there's a chocolate place, I forget what did they call it.
- 8:18It's like a chocolate event out in Nassau, right by the national
- 8:21Coliseum. I go every single year.
- 8:23I've gone the last three years and they have a lot of different
- 8:26actors and actresses, come and sign autographs there.
- 8:28But they have all the top chocolate from dark to caramel
- 8:32chocolate, all over there and you get to go into this.
- 8:34You gotta pay its $30, but you, you get a chance to taste all
- 8:38the different chocolate. Is it pretty good?
- 8:42It's fun. It's fun.
- 8:44I always go with Brittany. It's it's a cool time he had A
- 8:47last year yeah I don't like the hot chocolate.
- 8:49They had a bunch of hot chocolate then use over there.
- 8:52I didn't I didn't really like to.
- 8:55I don't like hot chocolate so I like chocolate it just don't
- 8:58like hot chocolate. But anyway, stop at how are you?
- 9:01Good, good. Yeah, the I'm not a big sweet
- 9:03guy but it'd be fun. I like going to those things.
- 9:05We have the rib one, it's called Ribfest here, that's always fun.
- 9:10And then you'll get like some of the carnival things like the
- 9:12spiral spuds. I love those things where they,
- 9:15you know, just basically spin it on a drill and then, and then
- 9:17fry it. So yeah, we yeah, they do
- 9:19concerts with it, too. So I love those chili chili, I
- 9:23can get down with I, I'd like all kinds of chili.
- 9:26It does not matter. I don't know.
- 9:29Some people prefer the Texas style with no Bean, know people
- 9:32like me. Um, I like it with anything.
- 9:35I think. Like a Chili Dog.
- 9:37Yeah. Really there's no beans in a
- 9:40chili dog. I mean that's just my opinion.
- 9:42Fish, I do Denver green chili. I I first time I went there,
- 9:46somebody told me to try it because I gave them like, I was
- 9:50like, I'd love Chile and standing roles, and they, you
- 9:52guys gave the same responses everywhere usually does it.
- 9:54Like, seriously, and Blue Skies of Pappy's bride in Saint Louis
- 10:00barbecue. That's what I love about
- 10:01barbecue though. And food.
- 10:02In general. Like, it tastes like regionally
- 10:05where it's at like Saint Louis. Memphis like Texas.
- 10:08Like it's all different but yeah.
- 10:10Denver is very, very underrated. Do you do you?
- 10:13I know you guys have saw this. Do you get down with Cincinnati
- 10:15chili? I'll eat anything.
- 10:17I know everybody keeps saying, we had somebody actually come on
- 10:19the show talking about Cincinnati chili, but I, I've
- 10:23had it. Well, I think once, but I like
- 10:25old chili, it doesn't matter where it's from.
- 10:27I know each each place has a hotter chili.
- 10:31I know Saint Louis, Chili's, very, very hot.
- 10:33So I've had some of that chili, but I don't really like it hot.
- 10:37I like it mediocre. I like it medium.
- 10:39I don't really like it too hot because I don't want to burn the
- 10:42hell out of my throat. I can't enjoy the chilies.
- 10:44So I love all different kinds of chilies.
- 10:47I like more beans, and in my chili obviously because it makes
- 10:51me fart, and it makes me want to go to the bathroom.
- 10:53That's why each Ellie. Because, if I'm constipated and
- 10:56I need to let one go. I eat some chili in.
- 10:58It'll definitely let me one go Java.
- 11:00My friend actually won my friend actually undo.
- 11:03He grew up, he grew up in Kentucky but he grew up a
- 11:06Cincinnati sports fan. He's a Bengals fan and he was
- 11:09mentioning that he's like he likes us Skyline.
- 11:12I think it is. But can't stand the other one
- 11:13gold star I think is the other one.
- 11:14Yeah, so that you can buy him out of the can Yeah, I like it.
- 11:21That to me, I don't, I'm not eating chilling.
- 11:24Let's it's freshly made. If you gotta get a crock pot out
- 11:27and I'm I could because chili could sit in your frigerator for
- 11:31a week and you can eat it all week long, depending on how you
- 11:34close up and make sure that's wrapped up, very, very well
- 11:37because you don't want any germs or any of that goes.
- 11:40If you're making yourself, do you make it spicy?
- 11:41I don't, I actually don't make, chili Brittany, makes the chili.
- 11:45She's really good. She makes a really, really good
- 11:47chili. And it's, it's like medium.
- 11:49She does add a little spice to it.
- 11:51I don't care if it's a little spicy, if it's really spicy, I
- 11:54can't eat it. So and then I got to drink a lot
- 11:56of water or whatever juice. So and I remember that out of my
- 12:00I remember that remember the week and I had to stay in the
- 12:02during the snowstorm at your house.
- 12:03Yeah. You drink it entire carton of
- 12:05juice with that showing it was horrible.
- 12:07I mean she's spiked it out man. She really burned the hell out
- 12:11of my throat. I she it admitted that she put,
- 12:13I think what she put in it but she put some kind of spice
- 12:16pepper in it and it really Burn the hell out of my throat.
- 12:20She usually cuts it down where it's not.
- 12:22It, like melts into the chili, she put him in like really in
- 12:27Speedy likes it hot. So Speedy was guzzling down and
- 12:30he wasn't even drinking anything.
- 12:31I was sweating, by the time I was done with my chili.
- 12:35I was sweating that's out. It looked like it came out of
- 12:37the shower Speedy sitting there. I remember, all I remember, I
- 12:41ate like a bunch of tacos with that chili and whatever else he
- 12:44was making that and like early a good amount but like I think he
- 12:48I forget if it was Snapple or lemonade or something, you chose
- 12:51the entire thing I did it was it was really, really hot and when
- 12:55it's really, really hot, I can't enjoy it.
- 12:56I like to taste like Speedy says, it's the taste.
- 12:59It's the, it's the. What do you what do you say it's
- 13:02over the flavor. That's what it is.
- 13:04It's Gotta Have this beautiful soft feeling right down the pit
- 13:09of your stomach. Speaking of soft, CBS Sports
- 13:12reports that the NFL players are sociation.
- 13:15President JC tretter is stepping down.
- 13:19From his position, following the recent NFL collusion Scandal
- 13:22nflpa executive director Lloyd, Howell Jr.
- 13:26Also stepped down from his position after he was caught
- 13:30charging the players union. Over 3,000 dollars for strip
- 13:34club visits. How old was also involved in a
- 13:392015 incident with another employee where they got
- 13:43thousands of dollars from a strip club leading to people
- 13:47losing their jobs, how will also worked as a consultant with a
- 13:53company called Carlyle Group and where seeking minority ownership
- 13:58of some NFL teams which would go against CBA.
- 14:03Rules the association press been violin reports that JC tretter
- 14:08bent the rules to higher Howell covered up.
- 14:12A lot of the scandals and hit a lot of the information on
- 14:17arbitration decisions from Other nflpa members, several former
- 14:22NFL players, including Ben Watson, Damien Woody took shots
- 14:26at tretter saying that the nflpa should have.
- 14:30Well, I'm sure it should have yes removed him.
- 14:33Why a while ago, NFL PA senior director of player Affairs.
- 14:38Don Davis is likely to become the next nflpa president, after
- 14:43Trevor stepped down, you know, it's an interesting story.
- 14:45I obviously I got it. I got my message from fish that
- 14:49we were going to talk about this because it's been a story for
- 14:52the last, I would say 72 hours and it's really been the whole
- 14:57week. It's been back and forth.
- 14:58The story, hit, there was a writer that brought it out to
- 15:01the public. And and it started to grow legs.
- 15:04And obviously, he's just been going on for a long, long time.
- 15:07It's not like the players union or the players did not know
- 15:09about this because they were involved with it.
- 15:12So it wasn't hidden. The fact is, is when the NFL
- 15:15got, you know, it came out to the NFL and, and Some of the
- 15:19owners they got pissed off about it.
- 15:22Now, I'm sure the owners didn't think it was a collusion because
- 15:26they were, I believe they knew something about this too.
- 15:29It couldn't have just happened over the last couple of years
- 15:32and completely just been thrown onto the rock.
- 15:35Obviously, owners knew about it players knew about it, but it
- 15:39finally came out because there had to be a story.
- 15:41The NFL there was no stories where where we went from the
- 15:45draft to free agency and everybody's trying to find
- 15:48something. All these writers are trying to
- 15:49find something before OTAs or you know pre-season starts which
- 15:54is a right around the corner you're talking about the
- 15:56pre-season. What is it?
- 15:57Three weeks away. You're Gonna we're gonna see the
- 15:59Hall of Fame in doxy and then we're going to see the first
- 16:02preseason game over there in Cleveland.
- 16:05So I obviously the NFL and and these writers are trying to find
- 16:11a story. So, this story was something
- 16:13that was brewing. It was brewing from last year
- 16:15because obviously, over the last three years there was Was
- 16:19something going on with Jon Gruden in, those text messages
- 16:22and those emails and everything and Jon Gruden lost his job with
- 16:26the Raiders. What was it three years ago and
- 16:28then nobody not. Anybody has come out with that
- 16:31list of guys because they were like 70 own 70, different
- 16:35people, including owners GMS coaches that were on those
- 16:40emails but the only wasn't it like 10 years, though, like 10
- 16:44going back to 2012, like 21. It was going on for a while, but
- 16:48nobody knows who was on those lists except Jon Gruden and
- 16:51then, obviously, Schneider and Goodell.
- 16:54Those were the only three guys I think were released and that on
- 16:58the 70 or 80 guys that were involved in that Scandal.
- 17:02Now, this Scandal is starting to grow legs.
- 17:04Now, I don't know if it was so much of a scandal unless there's
- 17:07more to this Scandal that meets the eye.
- 17:10Now, I don't know. And there's nothing that's come
- 17:13out. Maybe the NFL's gonna brush it,
- 17:15under the rug, as they've done it.
- 17:16So very well over the years. Go ask the New England.
- 17:19Patriots. How many times they brush those
- 17:21onto the rug? I we all know about spy gate
- 17:24deflategate, wasn't anything about a gate but obviously the
- 17:27NFL was trying to drop the hammer on Tom Brady and Bill
- 17:30Belichick and and Robert Kraft because owners did not like the
- 17:34fact that those tapes were not shown and they burned the tapes
- 17:37before it could even get out there.
- 17:38But there's and it's not just the NFL professional sports, the
- 17:42MLB their scandals. It happens all the time and it's
- 17:45covered up the NBA. How many scans have been with
- 17:48the NBA as we all call it, the LJ.
- 17:50Well, I call it the LJ because LeBron James.
- 17:53I'm sure when he retires and he steps away from the end of NBA,
- 17:56they'll be stories coming out there, where some kind of
- 17:58scandals involved with LeBron James.
- 18:00And some of the, the better players in Elite Dwayne Wade
- 18:03over the years, was very connected to the players union.
- 18:06Chris Paul was the voice of the players union.
- 18:09So I'm sure the NBA has stories and stories that haven't come
- 18:12out yet, but the NFL is the biggest sport in the United
- 18:17States. It's the number One sport, it
- 18:20sells billions and billions of tickets, and billions of
- 18:22billions of merchandise and then obviously what it brings in for
- 18:27the Super Bowl is just absolutely ridiculous.
- 18:29So the NFL where they were selling five and a half million
- 18:33dollar, 30 second commercials at the Super Bowl this year, you,
- 18:38you look at the money that is bringing in.
- 18:40I'm not surprised that this story comes out and how old is a
- 18:45guy that was trying to be a part of ownership?
- 18:48He was trying to buy a team, he was involved with it, he was
- 18:51taking millions and millions of dollars from the players union
- 18:53and the players. Remember, 3 million dollars is
- 18:56in a lot of money. Okay.
- 18:57I want to I want to get that through to you guys.
- 19:00There was stories coming out that he was stealing millions of
- 19:04dollars and that I'm hearing through a different story that I
- 19:07was reading today. It was like three million a
- 19:09year, that's what he was making about 3 million dollars.
- 19:11That's not a lot of money when it comes to a sport that's
- 19:15bringing in billions and billions of dollars last year.
- 19:18The NFL Audience almost 20 25 and a half billion dollars the
- 19:23year before that almost 17 or 18 billion.
- 19:25So it went up almost six billion dollars and and with the CBA and
- 19:30the TV deals that they're bringing in.
- 19:31And now the options that some of these players are going to get,
- 19:35look at JJ, I'm a TJ watt. Look at the contract day, he
- 19:39just got recently. What was it over the weekend?
- 19:41It was the biggest contract besides of Court, a quarterback,
- 19:44he, I think he's making 42 and a half million dollars a year now.
- 19:47Well, deserved, by the way, I'm not saying that it wasn't and it
- 19:50isn't. The fact is the NFL PA knew
- 19:53about this, this is not something that was hidden for
- 19:57years. It's a story that came out
- 19:58because a writer wanted to get something out where he can
- 20:01become the center of Attraction and that's what these Riders are
- 20:05doing. Now, they're trying to find a
- 20:07story and then it comes. And a lot of these players I was
- 20:10watching things on YouTube today.
- 20:12A lot of these next players that are still involved with the
- 20:15Union, they said that, obviously, this is a Story.
- 20:19This is not a happy story for the players union, but they said
- 20:22there's a lot of collusion that goes on.
- 20:24It goes around in professional sports.
- 20:26And then also, I watched I'm not gonna mention the show that I
- 20:30was watching. He had at one of these ex
- 20:32players that were involved with the union for many many years.
- 20:35He asked them and he said, well, this goes on in unions in every
- 20:39single, you know, every single Union just goes on and not just
- 20:42sports, but every single Union, and this particular guy said,
- 20:46well, wait a second, not every Union, every guy, every player
- 20:49or every person is a millionaire.
- 20:51So he's actually right when when you see this kind of money being
- 20:55flashed around and 3,000 dollars is nothing to the players union.
- 20:59As a matter of fact, it only gives you a thought in your mind
- 21:02how much money is getting thrown around under the table.
- 21:05That's what scary about the NFL, and everybody talks about and I
- 21:09have attacked dotani for the betting scandal at the MLB was
- 21:13trying to cover up for over the last, what, two years now, we're
- 21:17talking about this now, This is a scandal but is it really that
- 21:22big of a scandal when we know that professional sports for
- 21:26years have been how about college sports, what they've
- 21:29been doing for players. Now, all of a sudden we have the
- 21:31nil deals and these players are making money, how many times
- 21:34before the FBI got involved with it before, the mafia got
- 21:38involved with it, how much money was being pushed under the table
- 21:41for these players to decide. Hey, you know what, I want to go
- 21:44to this school, I want to go to that school.
- 21:46So it's been going on collusions.
- 21:48But going on forever. Let's not forget the Arabs that
- 21:51fun to Deion Sanders. Yeah, so obviously this is
- 21:55obviously a big story, the NFL is trying to cover it up and how
- 21:59will stepping down? And obviously, the the Treader
- 22:02situation him. Stepping down.
- 22:04Here's the thing. The senior director of player
- 22:07Affairs is not an important position just to let everybody
- 22:10know. It's it's a position, it's not
- 22:13the biggest it's not the most important position when it comes
- 22:16to the NFL players union. Now, there's a line of players
- 22:20that are involved in communication with these lead
- 22:23Guys, these lead guys that are running the players union.
- 22:26This is a position that is highly touted because there's
- 22:29money, there's a lot of money that these guys make.
- 22:32If you're on the board, you're making money, okay?
- 22:34So when you're speaking, you're going to strip bars and you're
- 22:38embarrassing yourself. I understand why you would bring
- 22:41some of these guys, these players to strip bars, why it
- 22:44attracts it attracts money, it attracts women, and attracts
- 22:49everything. And it gets the players wanting
- 22:51to come to the players union and sit down and have a
- 22:54conversation. How do you actually discuss any
- 22:57of this when you go to a strip bar?
- 22:58I mean accepting because the type of guy that would have all
- 23:02his buddies. Go to a strip ball and have a
- 23:05conversation. Should not just about money but
- 23:07tits and ass. I mean listen would be the only
- 23:09person I know would go to a strip bar and have a business
- 23:13conversation. I don't think anybody
- 23:16intelligent would actually take a multi-billion dollar
- 23:21organization. Players union to a strip bar to
- 23:24have a business conversation unless you were going for your
- 23:27own hidden agenda. And that's what I think it was.
- 23:30I obviously there's a lot of perverts in the game as we all
- 23:33know, and I'm not gonna mention some of these ex-athletes,
- 23:36actually, I can name, there was a quarterback and a cornerback
- 23:40that was very distinct on going to strip bars, every single year
- 23:45in the NFL. And I think if you think back
- 23:48one of them play for Tennessee and the other one played for the
- 23:51bankrolls a quarterback, played for the Bengals.
- 23:53And the other one was a quarterback.
- 23:54That was a top draft pick what Matt liner.
- 23:57So am I throwing you guys a bone here?
- 24:00I think everybody knows who I'm talking about that.
- 24:02Love to go to strip bars and hang out at strip bars and I'm
- 24:05Short Java at some point. Before he got married love to go
- 24:09to ship bars. Athletes love to go there
- 24:11because got a lot of money and they could throw whatever they
- 24:13want to these girls and they're gonna give them nice lap dances
- 24:16and pull down their panties and have a little fun with them.
- 24:18It to me if you're going and you're working on a business
- 24:22deal, you're not going to a strip bar.
- 24:24But again, this wasn't about business.
- 24:26This is about satisfaction satisfaction.
- 24:29And the problem right now with the NFL is the NFL thinks
- 24:33they're on, touchable, professional sports, think
- 24:36they're on touchable. There's so much money to be had
- 24:39and nobody really cares about the, the players or at what the
- 24:44players are getting. After the fact, after they
- 24:46retire. And that's why the NFL has
- 24:48gotten away with it for many, many years.
- 24:50And then you'll look at now, all the money that's getting thrown
- 24:53in the union and what these players are making.
- 24:54Now it's sad, because let's go to Joe, Montana, Joe Montana
- 24:58played in wet, the 90s, the, the late 80s, actually early 80s and
- 25:04it's in Ideas. How much money was he making
- 25:07100,000 dollars 150. He made more for his video game.
- 25:12I'm just saying yeah they were making no money now you have
- 25:15quarterbacks backup, quarterbacks making more money
- 25:18in in a four-year span and they made their whole career.
- 25:22Just think about how much money is out there with the NFL, with
- 25:26the cba's and and the television deals and all the, the
- 25:30different, you know, memorabilia that they're selling autograph
- 25:33signings, all the different things that these players are
- 25:35making on and off the field. It to me the NFL and and I, I'm
- 25:41not saying the FBI, I need to get involved with authorities,
- 25:43need to get involved because if they wanted to get involved,
- 25:46they should have gone involved a long, long time ago.
- 25:48Because ladies and gentlemen, this is been going on for tens
- 25:52of years. I'm talking about that.
- 25:54Make the FBI gets involved. Doesn't feel like like when
- 25:58they're smoke, there's fire. Oh yeah, I'd be more to it.
- 26:00Of course, there's gonna be a lot more to it.
- 26:02There's a lot more to this story.
- 26:03It's not just, oh, Go to strip bars, they're doing other
- 26:07things, at the strip bars there. How do we know there's no
- 26:10betting Scandal over there at the strip bars?
- 26:12You know, obviously betting is so illegal, and players
- 26:16shouldn't be betting on their Sports.
- 26:18As we've seen this over and over and over again in basketball.
- 26:21And what we've seen in baseball over the last couple of years.
- 26:23Now, I do believe the NFL, there will be scandals and we're gonna
- 26:27hear many, many skins. This story is a scandal for one
- 26:30reason. These guys step down because
- 26:32they knew that the NFL probably gave them a nice, I don't know,
- 26:36the players union. Probably gave them some nice
- 26:38money to step away because yes, severance pay because they don't
- 26:42want him to go out there. They don't want to speak to the
- 26:44Press because if they speak to the press and they throw other
- 26:46guys under the bus, how bad is the NFL going to look how bad is
- 26:50the players union? Going to look if some of these
- 26:53big stars, now I do believe one of these guys are going to come
- 26:58out in the next couple of years and write a book.
- 27:00Why? Because it's all about Mucho
- 27:03Dinero. It's all about Money and one of
- 27:07these idiots are gonna come out and say, you know what, I want
- 27:09to write a book, I'll give you 10 million dollars.
- 27:12Let me write a book about it and he's gonna come out.
- 27:14One of these, two idiots are gonna come out and give away a
- 27:18lot of different people. A lot of people that were
- 27:19involved with it, that you wouldn't even expect was
- 27:22involved with it. You think Roger gadel, didn't go
- 27:24to one of these strip clubs. Come on, guys.
- 27:26Roger Goodell's the biggest pervert of them all.
- 27:28I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and try to beat around a bush.
- 27:31This is the same. Roger Goodell that just got an
- 27:34extension. What was it?
- 27:35Two years ago that made a deal with the owners dating that he
- 27:40wanted him and his children, and his wife to have a lifetime of
- 27:44insurance at medical insurance me while he won't give former
- 27:49players a lifetime of medical insurance, and he made sure that
- 27:53he had his own jet when or lose a decide to step down on not, he
- 27:57has his own jet to use and his own his own, you know, the only
- 28:01occasions to go fly to his family's reunion stuff like
- 28:04that. The NFL lets this man do
- 28:06whatever he wants. As what we we know he did to
- 28:10that CTE doctor when the story was coming out, how the NFL was
- 28:14trying to brush that Under The Rock, how many players have come
- 28:17up or stories coming out that players where it diagnosed with
- 28:20CTE grade, one grade two great three.
- 28:22We've had a couple of months show and the NFL don't want to
- 28:24speak about it anymore. As a matter of fact, nobody
- 28:27speaks about CT as much. Is they did five six years ago,
- 28:30why? Because the NFL probably paid
- 28:33these guys off to shut their mouths.
- 28:35Yeah. And we allow Powell was a big
- 28:37one that mentioned to it because he does a lot of the CTE
- 28:39studies. So, and he was saying how the
- 28:40NFL players union as a whole has to get stronger and I think he
- 28:44was another one that I think was pushing for these types, same
- 28:47types of treatments. And they get looks even worse
- 28:48where you have a former player? In JC tretter as well.
- 28:52He was a center for the Packers and then he played a couple
- 28:54years with the Browns that allowing this kind of thing to
- 28:57happen covering it up. And Basically, stealing money
- 29:00from other players, too. Because Yeah you mentioned three
- 29:02million dollars is not much for the leak, but for somebody's
- 29:05contract, several amount of NFL players contracts, that kind of
- 29:08thing still could hurt them percentage wise.
- 29:11Yes, there are other unions that aren't making a lot of money
- 29:13too, but The percentage factor and the principle that has to go
- 29:16into it. And that's why a lot of these
- 29:17unions have these kinds of protests too.
- 29:19And the nflpa, we've said a lot of our guests have said has to
- 29:22be stronger because of that, but it's hard for them to be
- 29:24stronger when you have all these guys that are covering it up
- 29:27like JC tretter, and then you have another guy in Howell,
- 29:29that's essentially playing. But what are they covering up?
- 29:31I mean, this story came out. I mean, they go to strip bars
- 29:34and they're going to strip clubs and and negotiating deals for
- 29:38the players union. I mean, what is it?
- 29:41That has come out, that we have heard so far in the story that
- 29:45has grown legs. The only thing we know is these
- 29:47guys are stepping down at their positions because they don't
- 29:52want story. Some of these stories that come
- 29:54out in the open. So well, let me give you the
- 29:57conspiracy theory situation here.
- 29:59Arrow, The Conspiracy Theory says that all of the four
- 30:03stories and we started with a story on this one, there was a
- 30:06collusion thing that got brushed on the road with DeShawn
- 30:09Watson's guaranteed contract. Now, pay attention.
- 30:12What's going on with the second round?
- 30:14Right now, how they were all assigned until recently because
- 30:18they wanted guaranteed money in their deals.
- 30:20Guess what? Team decided to sign their
- 30:23second round. Picks to a fully guaranteed
- 30:25deal. Causing all this the very same
- 30:27Cleveland Browns. So now we have this situation
- 30:30where we know and it came out through this Pablo Torre
- 30:35podcast. That the first thing that came
- 30:37out was that they had a collusion case dead to rights.
- 30:40And they just let it go. So that they wouldn't have these
- 30:43guaranteed deals. As, if the players union
- 30:46president, or executive director, or whatever, his title
- 30:48was, should be doing anything against the players.
- 30:51Best interest. Of course, the players union
- 30:53President should be advocating for, as much money in hand as
- 30:57possible. It's unbelievable that he did
- 31:00that, but they were not saying he did that until now.
- 31:03It's obvious that that's what was going on.
- 31:05So the second part that they covered up was with Trevor now
- 31:09tretter is, was behind the organization committee.
- 31:12They had to come up with, who the next executive director was
- 31:16going to be. So when they hired this guy, it
- 31:18used to be a transparent process, they would let
- 31:21everybody know. They made it a backroom deal.
- 31:24And nobody was allowed to know why they picked Lloyd Howell Jr.
- 31:28They didn't, they didn't disclose the strip club stuff
- 31:31from a decade and a half and the other company too.
- 31:33He's trying to buy ownership stake in a team in on top of
- 31:36that. He resigned today, like in the
- 31:38last hour, it came across the SPN from that other company that
- 31:42with the team. Because now all the strip club
- 31:44stuff came out and the thing is, he's using public funds.
- 31:47That's the money that's supposed to go to funding, you know,
- 31:50these players health insurance policies?
- 31:53Sounds like a bright Farm on his own sounds like Bruce fall.
- 31:56Well, very far thing was like a Medicaid scam.
- 31:59It was like, it was different and like, honestly, the
- 32:01government in that state had a lot to do with it being corrupt.
- 32:04This was just simply a guy who's gotten away with shit his whole
- 32:08life. Was enabled and put in this spot
- 32:11by people that are very good, but here's the problem.
- 32:13Even the guy from the podcast, that the story was coming out,
- 32:16he was very well respected around the NFL.
- 32:19These guys were actually friends with this guy and he comes out
- 32:23guy. Yeah, he comes out on his
- 32:26podcast and throws the this collusion out there and through
- 32:30these guys under the bus. Meanwhile their buddies, he
- 32:32probably was at that strip bars hanging out with them so now all
- 32:36of a sudden he comes out with the story and now the NFL is
- 32:39trying to cover it up. Try to find ways to to get these
- 32:43guys away from the product in the and the the programming and
- 32:48and now the NFL is, but here's the thing.
- 32:50The best part about this story is you have pre-season right
- 32:54around the corner. You have the Hall of Fame right
- 32:56around the corner. So even though this is a story
- 32:59and there's nothing to talk about with the NFL camps are
- 33:02opening up right now, it's all going to be brushed.
- 33:05On the rug, the NFL is going to cover this up and nobody's gonna
- 33:08talk about this. Again, probably until the season
- 33:12is over, or there's another story that's going to be
- 33:14connected to this. Like, you were just saying the
- 33:16Brown story with the Watson and then the second round picks, and
- 33:19then obviously, who was the one that got your door Sanders.
- 33:23The Cleveland Browns. Yeah, I mean just think about
- 33:26it. The Cleveland Browns are
- 33:27connected to so many of the so much of the distress of the NFL
- 33:31over the last couple years, everybody makes fun of the Jets.
- 33:34And over the years, Bob just say the Jets Cincinnati for years,
- 33:39they could never get over the hump.
- 33:40Now, they got a quarterback but this is organizations that can't
- 33:44find a way to get out of their own way.
- 33:45And now you have the NFL. There are multi-billion dollar
- 33:48organization. The NFL's, right?
- 33:50The seasons right around the corner.
- 33:52Nobody's gonna be talking about just like the old tiny thing.
- 33:54Do you remember how big of a story that was, as soon as the
- 33:58FBI got involved with it and brushed it under the rug and
- 34:01probably got paid off. Nobody's talking about the Otani
- 34:03story and betting on baseball anymore.
- 34:06No, nobody even forgot everybody, forgot about it.
- 34:08And this is a story again, it's a story, there is collusion and
- 34:13less, there's something that's connected to this that could
- 34:15really burn a hole in the players.
- 34:18Union, nobody's even going to be talking about this in the next
- 34:20two or three weeks. Yeah, you judge in the Outside
- 34:23influence to its other companies, too.
- 34:24Even besides just the NFL and I agree with you, I think there's
- 34:27other NFL league Executives that probably could be like you were
- 34:29talking about with the Gruden, they're paid off.
- 34:30Yeah, these guys, I know, I believe it in some combination
- 34:33of it, too. And like I said, it makes it
- 34:34even worse when it's a player doing that because I had
- 34:37problems with Troy Vincent, when he was the nflpa president for a
- 34:39while. So he did not do a lot of very
- 34:40good things. So when they transition to
- 34:42treasure it seemed like there was a little bit of some amount
- 34:43of progression. But now you're seeing all these
- 34:44guys come out and take shots at him as well.
- 34:46But again, it's also these other companies are being factored in
- 34:48and that's the same thing that happened in college football.
- 34:50These scandals we've talked about too with the Yamaha with
- 34:53the Vanderbilt quarterback Bobby and all those guys, getting all
- 34:57these money from these other companies, too.
- 34:58Like I said with Deion Sanders, finally found from all these
- 35:01different other countries, by the way, nobody's talking about
- 35:03that anymore. Has anybody brought on that
- 35:05Dion's brought up that Deion Sanders Scandal?
- 35:08That was a big Scandal, think about how much money he was
- 35:11taking from the Saudi Arabian, a princess, and all these business
- 35:15owners over there, and he was using it to draw a players to
- 35:19come through the portal and pay them.
- 35:20All right, to come to play for his school.
- 35:22Just think about that and nobody's talking about it
- 35:25anymore. No.
- 35:26Buddy, Deion Sanders took Millions upon millions of
- 35:29dollars and was getting away with it and nobody's talking
- 35:32about it. It's Deion Sanders.
- 35:34Its prime nobody cares anymore. I think it was north of 20.
- 35:37It was a lot of Law. And again it was going on for a
- 35:41while too where we get other Rich guys involved too.
- 35:44Especially in a country like that and an area like that
- 35:47that's very rich in the world and same kind of thing with some
- 35:49of the other ones. I think the the Pavia one was a
- 35:51Italian mob Mafia. And again, there's gonna be a
- 35:56lot of connections when you hear unions, you hear Mafia, say
- 35:59whatever you want, that unions are connected to the mafia.
- 36:02It's always been that way since the 1960s.
- 36:05So for anybody said Jimmy Hoffa, Jimmy Hoffa who, by the way, you
- 36:08watched the Irishman by the way. Yes.
- 36:10Of course, the three hour and a half hour is like, four and a
- 36:13half, it was forever but he like details that the mobs ties with
- 36:18the teamsters, dating back in the 50s and before that, and
- 36:21it's one of those great, you know, it's a long, you got to
- 36:24like really commit to a movie like, It was great and it's kind
- 36:27of tough like watching De Niro at age 80.
- 36:30DH know what's tough. What was tough is De.
- 36:33Niro's, usually the boss or he's like the the Prime leader and
- 36:36then it's Joe Pesci. Joe Pesci was the leader and he
- 36:40was the mean main bad guy, and Robert De Niro, and yeah, and
- 36:44Robert De Niro was the, the lonely guy.
- 36:47The guy on the outskirts of the mafia it was, it was definitely
- 36:50not something that you would expect on a mafia movie.
- 36:53But I, I will say this, when you hear you need to hear Italian
- 36:57mafia, there's the mafia's involved with this, and, and
- 37:00there's going to be a scandalous, not pass shoes
- 37:02Pacino. Pacino, played, was it?
- 37:04What I was half a? Yes, it was Pacino.
- 37:07Yes, but I'm talking about I'm talking actually I know it was
- 37:11who was who played from the Hoffa movie?
- 37:13The the he was in it too. How she was in it, too.
- 37:16Yeah. But who played?
- 37:17She had a advisory role. Who would, who was bad?
- 37:20Who's the Joker from the Batman? I always know the first Batman.
- 37:24The first Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicholson played Hoffa in
- 37:28the old house. Yes.
- 37:29Yes. Yeah.
- 37:30The original one. Yes.
- 37:32And he was great in that movie by the way, he was great and and
- 37:35again I when you hear Mafia, when you hear unions you know it
- 37:39has something to do with the mafia but again we don't know.
- 37:41The the full end of this story, I don't think we will this year.
- 37:46I think as the season moves forward and the season tells and
- 37:50tells to the end and the Super Bowl and everything like that.
- 37:53I think we're gonna hear a lot more in depth on this story.
- 37:56I just think the NFL is going to try to cover it up and they can
- 37:59now because training you know, obviously I guess you call.
- 38:04What do they call a camp training?
- 38:05They have camp that starts and then there's a preseason, a
- 38:08couple weeks in the Hall of Fame.
- 38:09So nobody's gonna be talking about this.
- 38:11What I really want to know is when's that still, when is that
- 38:14list of owners and Executives, that were on that email, with
- 38:19John? I said I wanted to know because
- 38:22John noted I I know it'll never happen.
- 38:24Could be connected to that story.
- 38:26So never you're absolutely right job and it'll never happen
- 38:28because the NFL is all about collusion.
- 38:31They're all about, you know, brushing things under the rug,
- 38:34as the CTE thing was brushed under the rug for many, many
- 38:37years. And now, they're trying to
- 38:38figure out what is going to protect these players.
- 38:41Nothing is going to protect these guys heads.
- 38:44Nothing unless you wear, those weird things on their helmets,
- 38:47with some of the players are nothing is going to protect
- 38:50these players from concussions and all the different things
- 38:53that they helped some, but you still can get a concussion.
- 38:57With the way these rule changes isn't going to help the game.
- 39:00It hasn't helped the game. Kakashi's are still very high,
- 39:03so you can't sit here in the NFL and you know what?
- 39:05Nobody's talking about it, why? Because the NFL is making money
- 39:08they're making billions and billions of dollars and and what
- 39:11they're bringing this year, I believe you're going to see the
- 39:14NFL sell their first commercial for 10 million dollars.
- 39:16Just think about that for a 30 second to minute commercial
- 39:20they're going to make 10 million dollars.
- 39:21Its sickens me. How much money the NFL is
- 39:24bringing in and You can't, you can't knock an organization that
- 39:28knows how to make it me and Java can be the commissioner of the
- 39:32NFL and bring in that kind of money.
- 39:33Why? Because if it's a good product,
- 39:35and people are watching it and spending all this money, and
- 39:37betting, and betting is becoming legalized everywhere in the
- 39:40country, nobody's gonna take away from the growth of an
- 39:44organization. That is always tried to build up
- 39:47through the players. And the players aren't getting
- 39:49anything at the tail end. The owners are and that ladies
- 39:53and gentlemen, is something that the players union need to figure
- 39:56out even though they're making a lot more money and with the TV
- 40:00deals they're bringing in more money and that's why guys.
- 40:02Like, as we said, teach a lot is making 42 and a half million
- 40:05dollars to play at the defensive position.
- 40:07It's still bothers me that these owners are bringing in this kind
- 40:11of money. And not not willing to protect
- 40:14the former players and give them a lifetime of insurance to help
- 40:19these guys. After they walk away from the
- 40:21sport, when they have knee injuries, head trauma problems
- 40:24with their, you know, Mental issues and all the different
- 40:28things that we've heard over the last couple of years.
- 40:29Yeah, mental health is something that the new players union
- 40:32actually was doing a good job, progressing, with at the
- 40:34beginning of Traders tenure too. But again, maybe it wasn't even
- 40:37his influence. Not even a lot of other guys,
- 40:39too. Like you said, how many owners
- 40:40could be involved in. Looks like you said, they're not
- 40:41gonna care. They're not gonna, they're gonna
- 40:43taste taken all the money that they can get.
- 40:44So, oh, these, this player that was a 50 second guy, on our
- 40:48roster is doing stuff with a strip club in bezel money.
- 40:50Essentially, they're not gonna care.
- 40:51The owners are not going to care about that the same level that
- 40:54they would care about their own money.
- 40:55And, you know, Roger Goodell's, not gonna care about that
- 40:57because he's just not a 55 million dollar contract, like he
- 40:59said, lifetime benefits. So they're gonna be more of
- 41:01that. Who said there's other more, not
- 41:02other more leak Executives on their fire for this kind of
- 41:05thing, too. And like I said, it's just hard
- 41:07for the players union to have that kind of thing where you
- 41:09have somebody in Lloyd. Hell, that's playing both sides
- 41:11and trying to get money from himself.
- 41:13So you don't want that. Like, I had a bad enough as a
- 41:18teacher in New York, in New Jersey, Florida doesn't even
- 41:21have Union. It's like a fake, like fugazi
- 41:23Union that they have there and you don't get any support from
- 41:26the union. They tell you didn't give you
- 41:28support. If a school wants to fire you,
- 41:29they're gonna fire you and it's a team wants to get rid of you.
- 41:32They're gonna get rid of you and these Sports as well.
- 41:34It's just how the world is. It's not any different.
- 41:36What is a union? Get you, you can get you more
- 41:38money, you can get you better benefits, a unique can help you
- 41:42with things like mental health. Like you were saying Speedy that
- 41:45they started doing more recently in the more recent calls.
- 41:49Yeah. And if you because, like, it's
- 41:52all about the players, if the players don't care, they're
- 41:55stupid is basically what some of these four.
- 41:57These guys were saying in the media and they should care
- 42:00because this comes out of your check, everybody knows if you
- 42:02belong to a union, when you look at your pay stub, that money
- 42:05that they take out, there's a code that that money's for the
- 42:08union and everyone looks at their pay stub.
- 42:11As far as I know, maybe not show, hey ohtani because he lost
- 42:1417 dollars and know anything about it, but more than that,
- 42:17that we know about publicly, but it's that you should know.
- 42:23If you're giving that money, do you really want the guy in
- 42:25charge to be working against you?
- 42:27I mean, I would be livid if I was a player, especially if I
- 42:31was a player making league minimum, right?
- 42:33Or like maybe I was, I got a rookie contract.
- 42:36I was a mid round pick. Now, I'm sticking around.
- 42:38I get another smaller deal. I don't have a ton of money.
- 42:42I might not make it to that threshold where I get the
- 42:45retirement benefits. I really want someone to fight
- 42:48for me. I would be really, really Be mad
- 42:51if I was one. Yeah but again a veteran
- 42:52linebacker. You have all these guys in and
- 42:54again Treader was a guy that you know, spoke for the players but
- 42:57the players speak for the players.
- 42:59As much as he's the last guy to go through these guys, to me,
- 43:02they're puppets, that's what they are.
- 43:04You pull the string? Hey, you want to be in sync, you
- 43:06want to you know bye bye bye that that song and they like
- 43:09little little tea body freaking puppets Marinette.
- 43:12Yeah, there you are right there, as you Choppa knows more than I
- 43:15do. The fact is they're puppets.
- 43:18They're the players puppets. We have a list of guys that go
- 43:22around table and they talked to this one guy.
- 43:23So this guy's making millions and millions that I sit millions
- 43:27and millions of dollars sitting there with a bunch of players
- 43:29and making decisions for the players to me.
- 43:32It smells if it smells like crap and it looks like crap, it's
- 43:36crap. And that's what the NFL is,
- 43:38trying to sell to the fan. And the fact is the fan doesn't
- 43:42care, you know why? Because all they care about is
- 43:44their fantasy team. They care about what do they
- 43:46betting? When's the season started?
- 43:48Are you adding an 18th game and players?
- 43:50Don't want to 18th game because in their eyes.
- 43:53Yeah. All right, there's more money
- 43:55that could be, you know, spread out for the wealthy, especially
- 43:58the players. But here's the problem, more
- 44:00chances for injury and seizing, ending injury, or maybe career
- 44:03ending injuries because these guys are going down like a
- 44:07hotcakes as we see these Achilles tears.
- 44:09These hamstrings situations that these players are getting
- 44:12because they're playing on Turf, if the nflpa or in the NFL
- 44:16players actually care about what's going on.
- 44:18Instead of this can look conclusion, collusion what they
- 44:21should be looking at is the football fields, is there?
- 44:24Not too many collusion things that is happening out there
- 44:27right now on a football field? Just think about it.
- 44:29There's two NFL football fields that is grass and the rest is
- 44:33Turf. How many injuries do we see?
- 44:34Strategically every single year bed entries to quarterbacks and
- 44:38everybody's talking about, well, you gotta find a good backup
- 44:41quarterback. How many quality backup
- 44:43quarterbacks are there any NFL, four, three at best?
- 44:47So if you don't have one of them, your season is over.
- 44:50The NFL needs to figure out. Hey, if you're gonna waste money
- 44:53on plant, paying idiots like Treader 3 million dollars a
- 44:57year. Well, then, why don't you go and
- 44:59pay for a nice football field which is grass, which will maybe
- 45:03cost you 10 or 11 million dollars.
- 45:04What is that? 7 million dollars more where it
- 45:07could protect your players and put your players in better
- 45:09positions to succeed for the season instead of going out and
- 45:13still have to paying them through insurance policies
- 45:15maintenance? Well yeah, sorry sweetie, but I
- 45:18just want to, I just wanted to say one thing, a touching on
- 45:21that. Before I forget I would like to
- 45:22know if what the players union because I know that like hours,
- 45:28we have a representative from every team that goes and speaks
- 45:32your mind and everybody's allowed to go.
- 45:34There's, there's just one rep that basically submits and has
- 45:39to be on the calls, and which I love.
- 45:41And I was a part of it, my entire career.
- 45:43So you kind of have an idea of what's going on.
- 45:45Not just one player that has to get it to the whole league.
- 45:48I would be interested to find out. if they do have a player
- 45:51rep, For each team and do they. Necessarily not required.
- 45:57But when there's a call, do they Jump on the call whether it's a
- 46:03zoom, a FaceTime, you know, whatever.
- 46:04And get this knowledge out so that they can build.
- 46:08I mean, It was, I was very interested to having an
- 46:12ex-player. Be our Union lead.
- 46:14And it's obviously turned out great and it's just it's tough.
- 46:17When you see, you know players, you know, being taken advantage
- 46:21of in certain ways when they're in that position.
- 46:24But then also the players that are still playing and the guys
- 46:27that are battling and yet, you're getting all these execs
- 46:31and front office, people lifetime deals for everything.
- 46:33So I would that would be interesting to find out to see
- 46:37if they do. They do.
- 46:37So job, they do. Each team has an NFL player
- 46:40representative and at least one coat, alternate player
- 46:42representing it, every two years is electrical kind of team.
- 46:47Speaking of organizations that have been up and down the UFC
- 46:51318 featured. Several main card fights that
- 46:55came down to unanimous decisions.
- 46:57Daniel Rodriguez vs, Kevin Holland.
- 47:00Well, obviously defeats and beats.
- 47:02Kevin Holland in a welterweight main card fight event, winning
- 47:06by unanimous decision in the third round.
- 47:10Paulo cost us and beat Roman Coppola off in a co-main event.
- 47:15Also waiting in a third round you know, Anonymous decision.
- 47:18The honestly this card was just actually putrid, it was bad.
- 47:23And I'll say this and I I'll finish up my monologue because I
- 47:27know Speedy put this. I don't know why you added the
- 47:30top thing because nobody cared about those fights including
- 47:33yours. Truly anybody that has watched
- 47:36the UFC over the years, there was nothing that was exciting
- 47:39throughout that card. Even even through through the
- 47:43early night of those fights, the preliminaries the preliminaries
- 47:46were horrible. What really stood out to me was
- 47:49Dustin poirier's farewell tour throughout Louisiana and that's
- 47:54what everybody was looking. And they made an extravaganza.
- 47:56I got to give Dana White a little bit of credit for what he
- 47:59did from Thursday night, all the way into Saturday, the way ends
- 48:02having fans get a chance to go to the stadium.
- 48:04There had so many different autograph signings where some of
- 48:07the fighters will line up, and it was some of the time, some of
- 48:11those events were actually free where a lot of people got a
- 48:15chance to meet some of the fighters and got a chance to
- 48:17meet Dustin Poirier. The main event of the night
- 48:20feature, Dustin Poirier Max Holloway the fight was A final
- 48:24fight as he announced his retirement, after the fight
- 48:27Holloway beat Poirier by unanimous decision in the fifth
- 48:31round and pour it called out all three judges for their cards.
- 48:36Their scorecards Holloway said he respects Poirier as a fighter
- 48:40but says he would never get a whole card built around his
- 48:45retirement like poor, he did Holloway now has a 27 and 8
- 48:50career record and moves to fifth in the current UFC lightweight
- 48:56ranking, poor. He finished his UFC career with
- 49:00a 30 and 10 record with 15 of those 15 of those 30 wins by
- 49:07knockout, eight by submission, and seven by decision.
- 49:11And Speedy loves to put these numbers and nobody really cares
- 49:14about all they care about is the 30-10 in it.
- 49:17And I want to bring Jake in because I know he's a real big
- 49:20UFC fan, so he can join us and we can talk about This fight,
- 49:24the card was horrible and Dana White.
- 49:27I know he wanted to put it together and he wanted this this
- 49:30fight to stand out from all the rest and it did.
- 49:32This was the only fight that anybody cared about throughout
- 49:36throughout the night and even away ends.
- 49:39The way the fans really just loved us in Poirier.
- 49:42He's from Louisiana, he's really repped Louisiana for so many
- 49:46years and it stood for something, the brand of the
- 49:51obviously a place, like New Orleans a play.
- 49:54And we were there at the Super Bowl and and all the fans wanted
- 49:57to meet him, we even wanted to interview him.
- 50:00He was just too busy jumping from table to table.
- 50:03Max Holloway. To me, has a chance to continue
- 50:07moving forward. As one of the, the elite
- 50:10fighters in the UFC and he is obviously the lightweight
- 50:13Division and he could fight and met multiple divisions.
- 50:16This guy is one of the best boxers in the UFC, one of the
- 50:19best stand-up Fighters I've seen in a very, very long time
- 50:22problem with Max Holloway, as he goes on these, he goes on these
- 50:26Tendencies where he is. He's a dominant Fighter for
- 50:29three fights and he loses one Bears, three four.
- 50:32Yeah, he'll lose one bad fight and then everybody thinks his
- 50:36career is all over and then he comes back and he dominates
- 50:40again and he kind of hides, you know what he did in the fight.
- 50:42Before the two fights before that Max Holloway is, is one of
- 50:46those tough guys. He could fight, he could stand
- 50:48up with anybody. I, I would love to see him and
- 50:51Justin gauging again. I think that would be fun.
- 50:53He's guys, love to beat the hell out of each other and, and those
- 50:56guys are stand up Fighters and that's what you want to see.
- 50:58You want to, you want to go out all out brawls Boris?
- 51:02Like that, those two guys are stand, Up Fighters, they like to
- 51:05beat the hell out of each other. I thought it was a good fight.
- 51:08I just thought the way it was the build-up, the BMF title,
- 51:13nobody cares about the BMF title.
- 51:15It was really creative for Nate Diaz.
- 51:17Why? Because Nate Diaz wanted the bed
- 51:20and I don't know if anybody knows what the title stands.
- 51:22For bad motherfuker. That's what it stands.
- 51:24That's what it sounds. That's what it stands for the
- 51:26BMF title. So and the fact is Nate Diaz
- 51:31ever since he lost the title. He lost the title, pretty fast.
- 51:33I think you lost it against Max Holloway, if I'm not mistaken, I
- 51:37think he lost it against him. I'm not sure.
- 51:39So don't quote me on that, but he lost ever since he lost the
- 51:42title. Nobody cares about the title.
- 51:43Nobody could give a crap about the title but it stands for
- 51:47Holloway Holloway's. He's a toughest soapy, he's a
- 51:50great stand-up fighter. I want to see Max Holloway get
- 51:53into a ring against a champion. That's what I want to see.
- 51:56Max Holloway has not been in a ring with the champion for a
- 51:59while. And again, this is not a real
- 52:02Champion ship and pour And by the way, I want to give a
- 52:05shout-out to the UFC for doing what they did at UFC 318 after
- 52:10the fight, letting Poirier put his gloves in the middle of the
- 52:13octagon, giving him a chance to really say his goodbyes.
- 52:18This is something. I thought.
- 52:19Dustin Poirier should have walked away after he beat Conor
- 52:23McGregor the second time. I, and I remember when he kind
- 52:26of McGregor broke his leg on his, when he kicked him, he
- 52:29broke his leg after that, Poria has not been the same fires
- 52:32fighter since then he really hasn't.
- 52:34He he's got a lot of money invested in his hot sauce.
- 52:37He's doing very very well with as an entrepreneur.
- 52:40I he he's gonna make his millions just like kind of
- 52:43McGregor is because of who he is and what he stands for as it in
- 52:47American known fighter. I just think when you look at
- 52:51this fight Max Holloway and him I wouldn't if I was pouring I
- 52:55would have never fought Max. Holloway is my final fight.
- 52:58I would have waited until something came up.
- 53:01Maybe again, something because I, I just think backs.
- 53:04The way is just still a good fighter and he's Max Holloway
- 53:09could still fight a champion. He's still could be the champion
- 53:11of the world in his division in the lightweight division.
- 53:14So at Pourri is just he's not there anymore.
- 53:17Mentally, he's not there anymore.
- 53:19He just had his daughter. What I think his daughter is
- 53:21like six or seven years old. Now he's he wants to be a family
- 53:25man. Now I think I think the fact is
- 53:28the UFC was trying to find something to stabilize.
- 53:31You have c318, there was just nothing there and I don't want
- 53:35to talk about the undercards because they weren't good Paulo
- 53:38Costa. I mean Apollo's a good fight,
- 53:41he's not a great fighter and he had what was the last time?
- 53:45Jake. You remember the last
- 53:46championship fight? Paulo cost to have was like a
- 53:49couple of years ago. Right?
- 53:49Well he was banned. He was banned for a while.
- 53:52Yeah. He fought a chance.
- 53:53It's been a long time. I mean honestly the last he's
- 53:59been like it's been really underwent like this was very
- 54:01shocking. A great performance Honestly by
- 54:03Paul costley he kind of just Dominated all over Roman Coppola
- 54:07like it kind of looked like he was a little bit timid and Paul
- 54:09Casta was really aggressive and it was really impressive flight
- 54:12for him. But like it was weird.
- 54:13We haven't really seen that Paul cost in a long time.
- 54:15All And again, going back to the USC.
- 54:18I just think they're trying to bring these guys back.
- 54:21They come they disappear or and Holocaust has been fighting over
- 54:25the last last couple of like last two years but he
- 54:28disappeared for like a year because he was suspended.
- 54:30I think a sterile, I think he was doing steroids.
- 54:32He was caught with steroids and that last time I remember he
- 54:36fought. He was a title fight.
- 54:37He got his butt whipped. And I was the last time I
- 54:39remember Paulo Costa was actually, I actually paid
- 54:42attention to what holocausto is doing.
- 54:44This was a good fight. Roman is a registered actually
- 54:48was it was back in 2020 and Israel.
- 54:50When is he kind of was the man he just dominated the crap out
- 54:55of them. And I remember that fight.
- 54:57It came out is that when he came out with the choreographed
- 55:00dance, right? It might have been.
- 55:02Yeah, I think it might. I just say, I just think UFC's,
- 55:06they reached for UFC 318. I love what they did before, the
- 55:09fights the Wayans, how he made it.
- 55:12An extravaganza Louisiana, I love that Dana White did that
- 55:16for Thursday into Saturday. He had all these different
- 55:18events in the stadium. He had all the different young
- 55:21kids, get a chance to meet and the autograph signings out of I.
- 55:25Forget what they called it. They were doing something on
- 55:27Friday night, which it had all the fans actually get to get to
- 55:32go and actually stand in the Octagon where the fighters were
- 55:35just, I don't even know what they called it.
- 55:38He didn't call it a Fan Fest. They call it something else, but
- 55:41he, I thought they did a really, really good job when it came to
- 55:45promoting it all the way to the fight.
- 55:47I just thought the car was crap. It wasn't something like your
- 55:51C3. 317 was really. It was a really good guard.
- 55:53That was a fun every single fight really.
- 55:56And the two main events, the the co-main event in the main event
- 56:00was Sensational. I thought it was very well put
- 56:02together and that's the problem right now with the UFC and I'll
- 56:05say, Again, when you look at the fight there's there's a lot of
- 56:09older Fighters that are trying to make a statement again and
- 56:12come back and, and there's a couple of old Fighters that are
- 56:15champions. And then these young
- 56:17up-and-coming Fighters, they lose a fight and they fall off,
- 56:19you know what I mean? And then, and then the UFC's
- 56:22trying to find the next Conor McGregor and, and all that other
- 56:24stuff. It it's a problem because there
- 56:26they hyped these guys up. And then they go right after
- 56:29they lose, they bring them right back down it.
- 56:31And again, the UFC still doesn't have a guy that really stands
- 56:35out Jon Jones stepped away from the UFC for good now, so where
- 56:40they go and the heavyweight division, who's who's an
- 56:42up-and-coming Superstar and the heavyweight division, does
- 56:46somebody move up in the light heavyweight division to try to
- 56:50compete with some of these other the other two who are the two
- 56:53fighters right now. The English kid Who wanted to
- 56:57fight, John Jones, who was the other?
- 56:57I'm sorry, absolutely, definitely one time.
- 57:02Aspen all to be there guy. I mean, Aspen all he said, he
- 57:04might drop away to go to a five. That's what I also heard.
- 57:07Aspen all might want to fight at 205 because there's nobody, that
- 57:12would be a big job or time as well.
- 57:13He's a big boy, he's 240, he's 24.
- 57:15He's yeah. So I think he kind of wants to
- 57:18defend his belt. Probably for a little bit
- 57:20because they were waiting on that Jon Jones fight for
- 57:21forever. I think they've said they might
- 57:23have agreed to a fight with him and Cyril, God.
- 57:26I don't know if it's 100% confirmed yet, but I think
- 57:27that's probably the matchup their targeting.
- 57:29So I think Tom's probably just gonna be raised saying his
- 57:32division. So, you know, I mean John Jones
- 57:33used to control everybody saying he's back in the testing pool
- 57:36but you know, who knows he's not again, he's never, he's never
- 57:39gonna go away, you know, even when he was even when he was
- 57:43awake, as he had to be, he still somehow stayed and relevant what
- 57:48he comes down to Dana gave him every every opportunity to do
- 57:53everything. And basically could have handed
- 57:55him over the damn company at some point.
- 57:58But the Carter welding I think there was like, you could have
- 58:01gone two ways, you could have basically told and put a card
- 58:05together and be like, hey, this is kind of a last two Raw.
- 58:08But I think that was like, well if he's gonna get one, then I
- 58:11deserve one at this point. So I think it was more like the
- 58:15younger and not big names where they got a little bit more
- 58:18exposure to, you know. try and build it out but yeah, I think
- 58:22it was I wouldn't say it was a complete loss.
- 58:26I mean if we're ranking it from a to F, I'm gonna give it a c
- 58:31minus but that's that's a thing. When you're looking at, these
- 58:34guys like Daniel Rodriguez, Daniel Rodriguez is a good
- 58:37fighter. He's a great fighter but Kevin
- 58:39Holland. We're bringing about Kevin
- 58:41Holland. He beat Kevin.
- 58:42You think though, like you're right, like this star power was
- 58:45lacking and look, it was card built for Dustin before he was
- 58:48in New Orleans, close to Lafayette Louisiana.
- 58:50But I do think it did over perform a little like it was
- 58:54under under, you know, under promised over delivered.
- 58:57Like if you did live, if you did watch that fight Kevin Holland,
- 59:00Daniels, that was a great fight. And I did think that Kevin
- 59:02Holland, you could have gone either, what?
- 59:04It was a really solid good fight.
- 59:06And, you know, other than that, like again, like I think you
- 59:09hear, did you hear they? Did you hear how much they sold?
- 59:1317,000 tickets, and the fight brought in more money than any,
- 59:17of the cards over the last past, six months?
- 59:20This car is where is that? Yeah, this Card, if you get like
- 59:25the right, they build it around, Dustin Poirier.
- 59:28So obviously was gonna have the huge pole and draw of that kind
- 59:30of like 450 dollars for a what do they call it nosebleed ticket
- 59:36to see dust Emporia? I will say you see, I don't know
- 59:39how they do. They do get people in there for
- 59:41those crazy pricey tickets. Like, it's a very hot commodity
- 59:44and even for like a lackluster card, they have the fans.
- 59:47They get people to want to pull in and buy for those seats.
- 59:50I was so hurt over the years that Dana White was buying a
- 59:53ticket and then raffling off to people.
- 59:55Of course, I've heard stories about that many, many times
- 59:58about Dana White and dating. I'm not taking shots at Dana
- 1:00:01White, I think he's a good businessman, the guy knows how
- 1:00:03to make money. You can't really attack anything
- 1:00:06that he's done for mixed martial arts in the UFC there's no way
- 1:00:09you can attack what he's done. He's brought a ton of money and
- 1:00:12he's he actually helps sell the product, which he made, I think
- 1:00:15250 million dollars off of and he honestly a guy that was a
- 1:00:20president. Now I if I'm not mistaken was a
- 1:00:22finance guy. And was brought in to really
- 1:00:25just help build the product in the finances, he wanted to go
- 1:00:28some other than promoting box. Yeah.
- 1:00:30And he was a fight. He was a boxer actually.
- 1:00:33I remember when Ortiz wanted to fight him and he he was he was
- 1:00:36trying to cut weight and Ortiz back to actually Ortiz backed
- 1:00:39out of the fight when Dana White wanted to fight him.
- 1:00:41So the whole fact here is the UFC is trying to build their
- 1:00:47product. Now the economic Gregor is no
- 1:00:50longer going to be about. Yeah, I don't know if he's gonna
- 1:00:52fight in bare, Knuckles. He he did sign a contract to
- 1:00:54fight three fights at bare Knuckles.
- 1:00:56But when's that gonna happen? It seems like he goes, He
- 1:01:00promotes it and we don't see him there.
- 1:01:02It's free. I think he's there just to be a
- 1:01:04commissioner. I don't think he's ever gonna
- 1:01:05step into another, that's his UFC, but even that I just, yeah,
- 1:01:10I think Connor fighting. I don't think I should No.
- 1:01:15I mean the only reason I would say is because he is a showman
- 1:01:18and like going out on the losses that he did specially breaking
- 1:01:21his leg to dust Emporia. And like there's that still is
- 1:01:24that beef between him and Michael Chandler.
- 1:01:25And I know it's played out all the time because Michael
- 1:01:27Chandler, just continues to call Conor McGregor, but like, it
- 1:01:31would be kind of shitty. If like, that's the lasting
- 1:01:33memory, we have of Conor McGregor's been breaking his leg
- 1:01:35and just like, looking sad and kind of like it's, it's just the
- 1:01:39former Champion how great he was.
- 1:01:40Like, I would like to see one more time just to get that bad
- 1:01:43image, out of my head. I don't care.
- 1:01:45Honestly, I've had my problems with Conor McGregor from us on
- 1:01:49social media, I have for years. And I don't think people
- 1:01:52understand. I had an MMA show, which I want
- 1:01:55to bring back and at least do it once it once a month.
- 1:01:57But it's caged in MMA and I used to talk so much about Conor
- 1:02:02McGregor. I had a line of guys that came
- 1:02:05on the show and Conor McGregor's team actually attacked me
- 1:02:09threatened, me and told me all this crap.
- 1:02:11I was at the Barclays Center when he was through that.
- 1:02:15That chair into the window. I was right there yelling at him
- 1:02:20and screaming. I'm in the back end so he's to
- 1:02:23me. Is it immature ass?
- 1:02:24But nevertheless, he's a showman and he knows how to sell the
- 1:02:27UFC. Don't have that anymore, they
- 1:02:28just don't have those guys. They have two or three really
- 1:02:32good Fighters that you're we've seen.
- 1:02:34And we, we spoke about on this show, but they're, they're
- 1:02:37actually besides the, the Italian kid besides him.
- 1:02:41They're a lot of them are in admit 30s.
- 1:02:43How much time do they have left as Fighters?
- 1:02:46And we were, we were talking about some of these 19 year olds
- 1:02:48coming up now. They have the, the next Ultimate
- 1:02:50Fighter. They're trying to find the next
- 1:02:52guy. I mean, Matt Sarah was doing
- 1:02:54something on YouTube but traveling around the country in
- 1:02:57the world. Trying to find the next big
- 1:02:59fighter. They just can't.
- 1:03:00That's so wasn't entertaining. Yes, it was.
- 1:03:02Of course it was, it's always an entertainment.
- 1:03:04I, the problem right now is the UFC, there's just not enough
- 1:03:08guys that want to fight mixed martial arts now because there's
- 1:03:11so much money in boxing. Still these young guys, he's
- 1:03:14young kids, it's better off being a prize fighter.
- 1:03:17If you fight five or six price fighting, you're going to bring
- 1:03:20in more money and those five fights thing, you'll probably
- 1:03:23bring in your hole UFC career even if you make it to the UFC
- 1:03:26that's the problem. There's just no money in it.
- 1:03:29There's no players union, they're not protecting.
- 1:03:31Do you know that the undercard Fighters make 10,000 dollars?
- 1:03:35The undercovered fighters make 10,000 dollars.
- 1:03:38So they're training their asses off for three to six months to
- 1:03:42get into a ring for 10 or get into the Octagon for 10,000
- 1:03:45dollars. You got to pay your trainer as
- 1:03:47you got to pay all your dues and all that.
- 1:03:49Yes, you have sponsors and all that other stuff in the end, how
- 1:03:53much you really bringing in in a fight on an undercard fight.
- 1:03:55And I know a couple of you have seen a former UFC fighters, I
- 1:03:59speak to them all the time, I was just at an event, a backyard
- 1:04:03event that I knew two UFC fighters that were invited to
- 1:04:06and I I sat with them and I had a good conversation about the
- 1:04:09UFC and what the UFC did to them it did help them with their
- 1:04:13businesses when they walked away from the UFC because who they
- 1:04:16were. But its also hurt them because
- 1:04:18they could never bring in money to support their families.
- 1:04:21One of them actually got a divorce to their first wife.
- 1:04:25Now he's obviously remarried but it's a big problem.
- 1:04:28The UFC needs to figure out a protect their their their
- 1:04:31Fighters and bring again another way where they can get.
- 1:04:35Insurance for life when they walk away from the sport.
- 1:04:37Because a lot of these guys, after they walk away from the
- 1:04:40sports, they're permanently injured and they can't some of
- 1:04:42them can't even walk anymore. So did you hear about randy
- 1:04:45couture? What happened to Randy Couture
- 1:04:46recently? Randy could tell us that was
- 1:04:49scary. Randy Couture is racing cars,
- 1:04:52that's what he's doing. He does brake car racing and all
- 1:04:56that stuff. He got into a car accident and
- 1:05:00he was rushed to the hospital. Almost died in the car accident.
- 1:05:03He's not paralyzed, but his whole face.
- 1:05:07Got messed up horrible. It was, it's a horrible and
- 1:05:10there's pictures all over social media.
- 1:05:11If you guys and Randy Couture is one of the nicest people you'll
- 1:05:15ever meet and a job, but you probably meant Randy Couture.
- 1:05:17He's a great person, a great guy.
- 1:05:20I love those fights. I think it was, it was a solid
- 1:05:23fight. Again, it was built around,
- 1:05:24Dustin and Max, you know, support, he hanging up the
- 1:05:27gloves. He pretty much knew like, that
- 1:05:28was the end, and I know you touched on an arrow at the
- 1:05:30beginning. He called out the judges a
- 1:05:32little bit thought that, like, you know, maybe the decisions
- 1:05:34and weren't quite how he thought it was.
- 1:05:36He thought it was a closer fight, looking back at it.
- 1:05:38I'm like, I see these statistics Max Holloway through 378 total
- 1:05:43strikes, like, that's, that's crazy.
- 1:05:45And like he landed 200 and one of them and And dusting through
- 1:05:48255 and he landed 109. So you know, Max, his volume was
- 1:05:54unbelievable. Like that's where he won the
- 1:05:56fight. Like I think Dustin did land a
- 1:05:58lot of good significant tricks. He stung Max a lot and he did
- 1:06:00add to the fact that you know. Now he and aliens aporia are the
- 1:06:04only few guys to drop Max Holloway but other than round
- 1:06:06two I think Dustin he just you know he really didn't have it
- 1:06:11like he what? He looked a little bit older.
- 1:06:13I think like you said like mentally he's not quite there
- 1:06:15like he knows he wanted to hang it up.
- 1:06:17I thought pretty much his last great fight was is against
- 1:06:20Islam, hot Chef. Like he gave it to Islam.
- 1:06:23A lot like, you know, Islam won that fight definitively but like
- 1:06:26Dustin made it so difficult on him.
- 1:06:29And I think he put up the best performance so far and trying to
- 1:06:31defeat Islam hot chef. But, you know, Max like,
- 1:06:34obviously, look, he already lost three times a night.
- 1:06:36I think, in his mind, he's like, there's no, I'm not letting
- 1:06:38somebody three Peach sweep me again.
- 1:06:40So max got his get back, you got the win and, you know, now for
- 1:06:44lightweight, it's completely and utterly chaos as well.
- 1:06:47Because now you have Max right back into the picture.
- 1:06:50So personally, what I would think you should do is I would
- 1:06:53probably do our monster rookie inverse, Justin gaethje and then
- 1:06:56you'd probably do maybe Max Holly versus Patty pimblett.
- 1:06:59You also have Dan hooker on standby and then of course,
- 1:07:01Charles Oliveira when he gets back, I wouldn't I wouldn't put
- 1:07:04Patty against Max Holloway and Patty's right now growing and
- 1:07:08you get into the ring with Max. Holloway.
- 1:07:09He can end Patty Patty's gonna try to stand with him and Max
- 1:07:12Holloway is just too strong, he throws too many punches if the
- 1:07:16UFC's trying to build Patty pimblett into this Superstar
- 1:07:19fighter you don't want to put him in the octagon with a hard
- 1:07:23partying like Michael Chandler and Michael Chandler.
- 1:07:26Kind of has been like, come on my Michael Chandler.
- 1:07:28Are we really listen though? Like he's kind of been the
- 1:07:31gatekeeper to those that Elite Fighters like where he's beating
- 1:07:34all the guys like underneath below him.
- 1:07:36But when he fights the top like the dust Emporia Justin gagey
- 1:07:39Charles Oliver, Michael Chandler's kind of been that
- 1:07:41Miss test and Patty just crushed him.
- 1:07:44Like I know you're saying like right, he's not quite have the
- 1:07:46luster of those top. Elite and guys, but, you know,
- 1:07:50if you want to see what Patty's got, you got to have and he
- 1:07:52wants to fight for the title, he's not ready for Elliott yet,
- 1:07:55but you got to see what he does. Against one of those top-end
- 1:07:57guys. So, maybe maybe not Max.
- 1:07:59But Dan hooker, I think that would probably dead hooker.
- 1:08:01Dan hooker makes a lot of sense. I would not put them against Max
- 1:08:04Holloway, Max Holloway throws, too, many punches and Patty
- 1:08:08takes too many chances. And Matt, all Max Holloway asked
- 1:08:11to do is lay in one. He's gonna knock him the hell
- 1:08:12out and you don't want if you're building Patty pimblett in up to
- 1:08:16this and I like Patty, I think, Patty's a showman, I like him so
- 1:08:19much more than Conor McGregor and what he does.
- 1:08:22And all these other big mouth guys that go out there and open
- 1:08:25their mouths, because Patty actually is a straightforward
- 1:08:28guy. He's gonna talk crap, but he's
- 1:08:30gonna go out there and produce it and he, and he doesn't in
- 1:08:33such a proper way. After the fights, he respects
- 1:08:36the fighters, he doesn't throw any of the fighters under the
- 1:08:38bus, like, Conor McGregor did over the years and even what's
- 1:08:41his name again? Mr. Puffy hair, cock, cock and
- 1:08:44balls over there. Sean O'Malley, showing them Ally
- 1:08:46Who Just doesn't shut his mouth even after losing again and
- 1:08:51getting his butt whipped. He's still opening his mouth
- 1:08:53saying the things that he's saying.
- 1:08:54So Sean needs to step away and figure out a weight class that
- 1:08:58actually fits him. Maybe go up a little bit of
- 1:09:02weight even though it's it. Usually when you go up and wait,
- 1:09:04it's not a beneficial thing. But Sean likes to throw punches.
- 1:09:08Maybe he needs to get into get into a weight class where
- 1:09:10there's more stand-up Fighters than ground fighting Fighters
- 1:09:14because we saw, he can't handle that.
- 1:09:15But like you were saying I would not put Patty against Max
- 1:09:19Holloway. I just, I understand what you're
- 1:09:21saying if he wants to fight the best, he's got to go through the
- 1:09:23best. It just doesn't make sense.
- 1:09:25Patty is a 28 year old kid growing into his man body.
- 1:09:29I just don't put him against Max.
- 1:09:31Holloway is the type of guy he would love to go against Patty
- 1:09:34first of all, because it'll be a main event fight and Patty's the
- 1:09:38kind of guy that opened his mouth to somebody like, Max
- 1:09:40Holloway Max Holloway is, he's a quiet guy.
- 1:09:42He's just gonna go out and he's gonna throw a lot of punches,
- 1:09:44and try not to get that out. And I don't think I think, Patty
- 1:09:48would have at least a pretty good.
- 1:09:50He does have a really good ground game at a good submission
- 1:09:52game. Where a good choice you would
- 1:09:54not want to trade with Max Holly and you actually pointed to the
- 1:10:00center of the Ring like Dustin. Like he said like yeah, fuck
- 1:10:02that he wanted. No part of Max Holloway he
- 1:10:04clinched immediately. I was like, you know what, man?
- 1:10:06Let's just go out like he's so hard.
- 1:10:08I heard. I heard he was peace in about
- 1:10:11pretty good like he wanted no part of that at all.
- 1:10:13So, I mean, like I hear what you're saying, like, you trying
- 1:10:16to build him up as a star. So maybe you don't want to.
- 1:10:18But like, I mean, hey, who's better than him when it comes to
- 1:10:21a fan favorite? Honestly, Yeah, or yeah.
- 1:10:25I would tapori is a nice kid. He's small.
- 1:10:27I love what to pour it does and he's probably the best fighter
- 1:10:31right now. The UFC has to provide These
- 1:10:32Guys, these these small Fighters that they have, they're small,
- 1:10:35you know, you Max Holloway. He's a, he's a big lightweight.
- 1:10:39He's a big man. Has anybody seen Max all the way
- 1:10:43in person? He's tall.
- 1:10:44He's not a small guy. He cuts a lot of weight.
- 1:10:47He's he's tall. I've seen him not like up close
- 1:10:51but yeah. He's taller than you think.
- 1:10:52Yes, he's he's taller and again when you see it does support.
- 1:10:56He has a great fighter. There's no question he's to
- 1:10:58stand up. Fighting likes to Max Holloway's
- 1:11:00just a way better stand up fighter.
- 1:11:02I don't think there's a stand-up fighter right now in the UFC
- 1:11:04head-to-head wants to just box with somebody back box with Max
- 1:11:08all the way. I don't think there's anybody
- 1:11:10that can outbox Max Holloway. Yeah she did put up the fight
- 1:11:14but he did get his lights turn. Yeah he did he was willing to
- 1:11:18Boston but it didn't end very well.
- 1:11:19Well support, yeah, definitely will as well.
- 1:11:21And the only reason why I say that, Should fight someone like
- 1:11:24Patty, like get like a young hungry competitors because you
- 1:11:28ever talked about the fact that the rematch like he should not
- 1:11:29fight Ilya yet as a rematch. Because, you know, you talked
- 1:11:32about it as well and still the BMF Champion.
- 1:11:35Like I know the title isn't on the line, but again, it's a
- 1:11:38gimmick Bell and like he got knocked out by Elliott support
- 1:11:40for him to then say, like, I think I believe that was the
- 1:11:43first time that anyone was ever actually defended the BMF title
- 1:11:45because when Jorge masvidal won the inaugural title from Nate
- 1:11:49Diaz. Yes, I don't think he ever
- 1:11:50defended it. Like, he lost a Camaro Usman.
- 1:11:52And then kamaru Usman, never was the BMF champion.
- 1:11:55And that's right. I forgot who beat tomorrow's and
- 1:11:58then he, you know, he lost a lien.
- 1:12:00Edward Leon Edwards, never became the BMF champion and then
- 1:12:03they just decided to put the fight between Justin gatine,
- 1:12:06Dustin Poirier and then just engage he beat Dustin Poirier
- 1:12:08and then, you know, they did it for Max Holloway and Max
- 1:12:11Holloway won the title. But like, you know, if you could
- 1:12:14have done a double fight, that would have been crazy.
- 1:12:15If you had the featherweight title and the BMF title.
- 1:12:18So Ilya, technically is the champion.
- 1:12:19But again, it's a gimmick Bell. It doesn't really mean anything.
- 1:12:22It's kind of just there. To, you know, they'd be like,
- 1:12:25oh, here's a little bit more of a, by the way, I want to cut you
- 1:12:28off. I want to give it Manny Pacquiao
- 1:12:30fought this weekend, and I thought he was absolutely
- 1:12:32robbed. He Bareilles, he beat Bareilles.
- 1:12:35I really believe he won the belt.
- 1:12:37He got absolutely screwed again. And I've seen this with Manny
- 1:12:41Pacquiao. It's a shame Manny Pacquiao
- 1:12:43comes back. He wants to win the belt.
- 1:12:44He wants to be the oldest champion in boxing history.
- 1:12:48He goes out there and loses a very, very close fight that
- 1:12:52fight. And then usik, did anybody watch
- 1:12:54the Lucic? Fight Lucic is now the
- 1:12:57Undisputed heavyweight champion of the world?
- 1:12:58A very well deserved. I think he's the best fighter.
- 1:13:01Best heavyweight champion we've seen.
- 1:13:03I, I know. Everybody's gonna think I'm
- 1:13:05crazy. He's the best heavyweight
- 1:13:07champion we seen since Fred Lennox.
- 1:13:10Lewis, not. I would say this.
- 1:13:12The last time I seen the heavyweight division have just
- 1:13:15done and everybody says fatality Klitschko and how great Batali
- 1:13:18kitchen, the lot of Mayor Klitschko the two brothers I
- 1:13:22Lennox Louis was the last. The last great heavyweight
- 1:13:26champion usik is, is the next. It's gonna be very, very hard to
- 1:13:31beat. He's one of the best fighters
- 1:13:32right now in boxing. I, I think, if even cut weight
- 1:13:36and fought in the, in a small, in the light heavyweight champ,
- 1:13:39I don't, I don't know what the, the under the undercard, the
- 1:13:43other weight class under heavyweight.
- 1:13:45I think that if he caught maybe 20 30 pounds, he could fight and
- 1:13:49still be the the champion in that division, as well.
- 1:13:51So, I I watched you sick fight. That was absolute domination.
- 1:13:55So I think he's the best fighter right now in the world in boxing
- 1:13:58that even more than Canelo Alvarez and all those other
- 1:14:01guys, everybody and that fight coming up, which by the way, the
- 1:14:05UFC is promoting. I can't believe this is the
- 1:14:07first fight that the UFC is promoting, and that's going to
- 1:14:10be a good one job. You're guy, man.
- 1:14:12No, Brassica Zone Nebraska's, own vs, Canelo Alvarez, and I
- 1:14:18think he's got a good chance to be Canal.
- 1:14:19I really do. I think canelo's talking a lot
- 1:14:22of crap again and Canelo, I don't know if he can withstand
- 1:14:25that speed. Now obviously going up in that
- 1:14:28way. So, the fight Canelo, that's,
- 1:14:29that's gonna be hard on it, but a guy that is ambidextrous, and
- 1:14:33that can fight many multiple ways.
- 1:14:35I think he's gonna cause a lot of problems in specialty the
- 1:14:38footwork for cadillo Alvarez. Let's go to the one and only
- 1:14:42Golf Club of the day. The golf clap of the day is
- 1:14:52pretty simple. It's football and there's a
- 1:14:55story that came out the Washington commanders.
- 1:14:57Obviously they went from Washington changed.
- 1:15:00Their team multiple times. Well ownership now wants to
- 1:15:04change it back to the old name and everybody knows it starts
- 1:15:08with an R. Harris came out throughout the
- 1:15:11last couple of days. They were stories coming out
- 1:15:13from the organization that they want to change the name back to
- 1:15:16the Washington. I can't say it because people
- 1:15:19are gonna get angry and I believe that the NFL is going to
- 1:15:23fight this all the way the end. And if, if need be, I believe
- 1:15:28the government will get involved with this to try to keep that
- 1:15:30from happening. But how is and the organization
- 1:15:33wants to do that and what makes it?
- 1:15:35So, first of all, their known their organization that won
- 1:15:39championships in the 90s. This was a really good football
- 1:15:42or Organization for so many years.
- 1:15:44It was a likable name, likeable jersey, and a likable hat, and
- 1:15:49then you change the name. The way from that name to the
- 1:15:53Washington football team to the Washington commanders.
- 1:15:55I don't think the commanders sound right, the the other name
- 1:15:58really stands out. So my golf clap on a day goes to
- 1:16:01the Washington commanders, trying to, and Harris.
- 1:16:04Well, I think is one of the best owners in professional sports
- 1:16:07right now. Owns the Devils owns.
- 1:16:09The the 76ers even though to the 76ers are an absolutely
- 1:16:13laughable organization, that's not because of him.
- 1:16:15He, he's provided a lot of money invested.
- 1:16:17A lot of money into organization.
- 1:16:19It's just unfortunate, they got a stupid GM over there, but my
- 1:16:22golf club goes to the Washington, commanders and
- 1:16:25ownership, wanting to change their name, back to the
- 1:16:28Washington. You know what?
- 1:16:29So the golf club right there? That's a story, I can't say it
- 1:16:33because I'm gonna get myself into trouble, but I have no idea
- 1:16:36why they changed the name. I understand, obviously, they
- 1:16:39feel it's racist. It's a racist name.
- 1:16:40This is been around for how many years, I mean, even the
- 1:16:45Washington. I mean, the Cleveland 32.
- 1:16:48Yeah, Cleveland Guardians changing their name it with they
- 1:16:50Were always the Cleveland, you know what?
- 1:16:52As we remember them in Major League.
- 1:16:54What I can play you guys can. But yeah, no.
- 1:16:58But the story behind Chief Wawa who is the reason.
- 1:17:01Like, if you look into this story wasn't a very good person.
- 1:17:04No, I understand the other one, the other one it came up every
- 1:17:0720 years. Somebody would go to the Supreme
- 1:17:11Court and be like in it. It never ran any legs.
- 1:17:14I mean it's is what it is. Some people are going to look at
- 1:17:17it. Some tribes will look at it.
- 1:17:18Some ways, some will look at it the other way.
- 1:17:20Yeah. It's just when white people say
- 1:17:23it's a little different. So yeah, I mean coming as a
- 1:17:27native and my family lives on a reservation.
- 1:17:29Eh So you wouldn't want the name to be changed back to the
- 1:17:33Washington. I mean, it's the same thing.
- 1:17:36You can you can bring up all these teams like the Chiefs, the
- 1:17:39Blackhawks. Those are real people like the
- 1:17:40Seminoles. That's an actual Indian, their
- 1:17:42mascot isn't Indian, I think that was, that was part of kind
- 1:17:45of, oh, good call Jake nice. Um, And so yeah.
- 1:17:50So it's just it's kind of how it is.
- 1:17:54I guess portrayed. And how so you wouldn't read.
- 1:18:00So you wouldn't you wouldn't want to be traded back to the
- 1:18:03old game you. So that's what you're saying,
- 1:18:05you know what, it wouldn't. I wouldn't lose any sleep over
- 1:18:10it. I know people would make a big
- 1:18:11deal out of it but It. I mean, does does government
- 1:18:16need to get involved in a football team?
- 1:18:18Like I it just yeah, it's frustrating because they they
- 1:18:23started out as the Braves and now the Braves can't even do
- 1:18:26tomahawk chop. The tomahawk was a very integral
- 1:18:29part of our hunting. Like why wouldn't a tomahawk be
- 1:18:31allowed like see it's the context in the way.
- 1:18:34It's used like the. Similarly he slams a spear and
- 1:18:37the 50-yard line dope. That's awesome because a seminal
- 1:18:41is an actual Indian but like when you look at it and then
- 1:18:43even me saying Indian could be derogatory some Native Americans
- 1:18:48and vice versa. They didn't even cultures very,
- 1:18:52very interesting, it's awesome. It's, it's something.
- 1:18:55I'm not saying that it is in. I just think that, you know, I'm
- 1:18:58just saying it's like, it's just weird like, how some people take
- 1:19:01things differently than others like, but all right, now we got,
- 1:19:06we gotta get, we gotta get our gas station.
- 1:19:09So what do we why do we go to a quick break?
- 1:19:10We got a sports minute and when we come back we will be talking
- 1:19:14to former 10 year NFL linebacker Jamie winbourne.
- 1:19:16But first, I was Sportsman with the fish.
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- 1:19:28here with your Sportsman it got a few stories before we get into
- 1:19:31the baseball scores tonight the WNBA All-Stars took the court
- 1:19:35Saturday night for their All-Star Game, wearing black
- 1:19:38t-shirts that read. Pay us what you owe us the act
- 1:19:42of protest by WNBA players was Universal as a new collective.
- 1:19:46Bargaining agreement will be needed.
- 1:19:47Starting this November revenues are way up across the league and
- 1:19:52a lot of that attention has been the rise of star player.
- 1:19:55Caitlin Clark despite her injuries this season, that
- 1:19:58didn't seem to be how all star, Kelsey Plum felt about the
- 1:20:01situation and an awkward post game interview, which led to
- 1:20:05fellow All-Star Sabrina School rolling, her eyes at Plum.
- 1:20:08It was a very powerful moment Plum set of the shirts.
- 1:20:12We didn't, at least his players, we didn't know what that was
- 1:20:15going to happen. I think it was kind of like a
- 1:20:17genuine surprise, but the T-shirt Just united front was
- 1:20:21determined this morning that we had a meeting for and you know,
- 1:20:25not tattletale but 0 members of Team Clark were very present for
- 1:20:29that. The shots taken at Katelyn Clark
- 1:20:31seemingly came out in nowhere but have been a persistent since
- 1:20:35she has entered the league. Perhaps a meeting about a
- 1:20:38t-shirt isn't as important as the money.
- 1:20:40She is bringing in. That is the focus of that
- 1:20:42meeting in the first place. Titans quarterback will Levis
- 1:20:47will miss the 2025 NFL season, after undergoing surgery, on his
- 1:20:52throwing arm ledis. Who had been working on
- 1:20:54refining, his drawing motion is offseason.
- 1:20:56After struggling to the point of the Titans picking cam work Ward
- 1:20:59first in this year's NFL Draft to replace him.
- 1:21:03While it looks like it didn't work.
- 1:21:04Now, Levis will have to see the job to Ward on day, one of the
- 1:21:07NFL season, without any competition, if that wasn't the
- 1:21:11plan already, and we'll need the entire season to recuperate.
- 1:21:15Likely will need to find a new NFL team and the not so distant
- 1:21:19future to revive his fledgling. And it felt career.
- 1:21:22Ward now has no obstacles blocking his path to start in
- 1:21:25this year and Brandon Allen. The journeyman quarterback will
- 1:21:28likely back him up. If another Camp body, doesn't
- 1:21:30beat him out for the spine. And finally, the Portland Trail
- 1:21:34Blazers have agreed to a three-year 45 million dollar
- 1:21:37contractor, former franchise Superstar, Damian Lillard
- 1:21:41Lillard, who tore his Achilles tendon in the playoffs this year
- 1:21:44with the Bucks was released and had his contract stretched by
- 1:21:47Milwaukee and will have part of the salary paid by the Buffs
- 1:21:50this season. As he sits out, we had in this
- 1:21:53injury, the league is generally perplexed by the deal, which
- 1:21:56includes a full no trade clause, and a high salary for a
- 1:22:01declining player. Coming off an injury.
- 1:22:02That is difficult to come back from, for most players entering
- 1:22:06their final years of their careers.
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- 1:24:19only former 10 year NFL linebacker Mr. Jamie winbourne
- 1:24:24Jamie, what's up buddy? What's up fellas?
- 1:24:27What's happening, man? I'm sorry.
- 1:24:29But if you can't see me as good because I had to get in the car,
- 1:24:32I made it though, I owe you guys one.
- 1:24:34So I'm sorry about that. I was going on.
- 1:24:36Y'all, I want to tell you something Jamie because it seems
- 1:24:39like it's like the number one place for NFL football is to do
- 1:24:43interviews. We had LeRoy Butler on our show
- 1:24:46Hall of Famer. Where was he hanging out?
- 1:24:48He was hanging out in his car, Peterson, former NFL player.
- 1:24:53Where did he hang out? Hang out in his car, he was
- 1:24:56heading to I, if I'm not mistaken, Green Bay, when he was
- 1:24:59going from Minnesota to Green Bay driving.
- 1:25:00So it's seems like it's like a trend for NFL players.
- 1:25:03So we're not hating you. We love you and I want to get I
- 1:25:07want to get into this collusion story.
- 1:25:09I don't know if you've heard anything about it.
- 1:25:11This this story has just been an absolute debacle as far as the
- 1:25:16NFL's concerned. It's not one of the biggest or
- 1:25:19the dumbest ones. We've heard over the years as we
- 1:25:22all know, deflategate was just as dumb or even stupider we've
- 1:25:25ever heard when the NFL was trying to find some way to
- 1:25:28suspend Tom, Tom Brady when they should have suspended him years
- 1:25:31ago, including the, the New England Patriots, your thoughts
- 1:25:34to. This collusion story, my friend,
- 1:25:36man. You know, it's kind of, its kind
- 1:25:39of crazy man. You know, I'm I ain't gonna lie,
- 1:25:43I ain't gonna put it past NFL, man.
- 1:25:44I, you know, I mean, I love what, you know, the Tornado part
- 1:25:47of and stuff. But you know, those guys, they
- 1:25:50got some powerful people behind him, man.
- 1:25:51And, you know, wherever you find powerful people, you find some
- 1:25:54type of corruption and that's just historically, you know,
- 1:25:57within a lot of things in this world.
- 1:25:59And, you know, I just hate to have to be like this man, you
- 1:26:03know? I thought we were taking a lot
- 1:26:04of steps forward. And um, but you know, hey, it's
- 1:26:08about itself to the Forefront and, you know, we're gonna have
- 1:26:11to see what happens with you say.
- 1:26:12What's gonna happen to it and I don't know if, you know, Lloyd
- 1:26:15Howell. I'm sure you've met him one once
- 1:26:17or twice. I'm sure a lot of guys have met
- 1:26:20him once or twice at the strip bar and then there's Mr.
- 1:26:22Tretter, who has been a part of the organization for such a long
- 1:26:26time and a guy that doesn't lie or maybe probably doesn't keep
- 1:26:29his little snake in his pants. Um, have you met any of these
- 1:26:33guys? What kind of people are these
- 1:26:35guys? If you ever met them?
- 1:26:36I mean, you know, The main guy. I feel really man.
- 1:26:46And he's straightforward guy, you know what I mean?
- 1:26:48But, you know, I have to do is look at the title of people,
- 1:26:51man. You know what I mean?
- 1:26:53Look at the job title, that tells you who their bosses are
- 1:26:55and whose what, you know, and you could just follow the train.
- 1:26:59I mean, basically has come out this time anyway.
- 1:27:02Um, but you know that's that's my main guy, you know, I if for
- 1:27:07me in my eyes, he's a good dude, you know, he does the best he
- 1:27:10can do, you know, sometimes guys hands are tied.
- 1:27:12You know what I mean? And, you know, you gotta
- 1:27:14understand people have family. B and, you know, me standing up
- 1:27:19for something, you know, hey, it takes a hell of a guy to lose
- 1:27:23their position and what they have and put the families at
- 1:27:26Jeopardy for something that they think is is Right.
- 1:27:29Jamie. But, I mean, I don't think that
- 1:27:31we have enough people doing that, Jamie, I love anytime I
- 1:27:34love you and I had to cut you off because you just said, Roger
- 1:27:37Goodell is a good guy. All right.
- 1:27:38I don't personally, I haven't sat down and had a conversation
- 1:27:41with him and his basement test. We've heard that he likes to
- 1:27:44hang out in his basement and and watch whatever he likes to watch
- 1:27:48probably porno. I don't know, maybe he's hanging
- 1:27:50out, the strip bars with tretter.
- 1:27:51I don't know what Roger could tell he's doing.
- 1:27:53Roger, Goodell is making 55 million dollars a year.
- 1:27:57He has life insurance. I mean, I just health insurance
- 1:28:00for him and his kids for life, he has his own Jets from the NFL
- 1:28:05owners and you're going to tell me he's to stand up guy.
- 1:28:07Come on. How stand-up could you be?
- 1:28:10You're making all that. No, no, I mean you gotta look at
- 1:28:13it like this. No, no, no, no, that's that's
- 1:28:15what I was saying, if the last part of that stand up, as you
- 1:28:19can be, but look at the time he works for He works for the
- 1:28:24Masters. He works for.
- 1:28:25He works for owners. I mean, for the National
- 1:28:28Football League and I mean in the and what does that made up
- 1:28:31of, that's made up of owners, right?
- 1:28:32So essentially, you know what his title is?
- 1:28:36Keep them in line. Do as we say, or lose your job,
- 1:28:39I already move on because you're a defensive player and a lot of
- 1:28:41the rule changes that Roger Goodell in the the players union
- 1:28:45made really affecting a lot of defensive players.
- 1:28:47A lot of the ways of tackle and stuff like that.
- 1:28:49You as a former linebacker. What are your thoughts to that?
- 1:28:51This is one of the one. What's the name?
- 1:28:53Ryan, John Ryan. Paul Ryan, I forgot what his
- 1:28:55name was alignment. He's over all of those illegal
- 1:28:59hits and finds and stuff. And he used to not he knocked I
- 1:29:02got a play where he just come clean me up after the after the
- 1:29:05play was so weird. But top broke.
- 1:29:07It's the same thing. Now, they're paying guys,
- 1:29:10ridiculously amount of money and they just don't want people
- 1:29:12getting hurt, man. It's offensive game.
- 1:29:14It is what it is. You know, back when I played,
- 1:29:17you know, pro bowlers, were making five, six million dollars
- 1:29:21each, you know, in that range, you know what I mean?
- 1:29:23Now you got a guy, you got one player, one player, making 60,
- 1:29:2860 million dollars in a year, right?
- 1:29:31So and me if I was the owner and the league, it's like shit.
- 1:29:35Yeah. We gotta we gotta make sure that
- 1:29:37nobody can touch these guys, man.
- 1:29:39I mean in this sucks as being a defensive guy because I like
- 1:29:41knock the shit out of them and I know the rest of those guys
- 1:29:44would love to but you know, it's a big business these days.
- 1:29:47And it also protects them to. I mean, hell, they don't
- 1:29:50practice as hard as they used to practice when I play, right?
- 1:29:53So, they just trying to protect their investment when when like
- 1:29:57as the agreement and everything up.
- 1:30:00You've been in it. How much Satan is the player
- 1:30:03actually have or does their opinion matter?
- 1:30:05When it's a new rule or something comes into place?
- 1:30:08Like how much are you guys heard or do they just do it because
- 1:30:12they, they have to listen. We're just employees, bro.
- 1:30:16You know, the owners that they don't have to tell her shit.
- 1:30:19Really, the paper down there with that seal on it that says,
- 1:30:21this is the real change don't have any say, so at all, that's
- 1:30:24way above our pay grade. That's, that's the owners that
- 1:30:28the and commissioner. Roger, Dale.
- 1:30:30Those guys get together about how to protect the money that
- 1:30:33they've spent. I mean, I'm paying 40 million
- 1:30:35dollars for a receiver. I don't really want people to be
- 1:30:38touching them too much, you know, it's just business.
- 1:30:40That's all, that's all it is man.
- 1:30:42We're just Commodities out on the field, just just pieces and
- 1:30:45those pieces can be replaced as we have seen.
- 1:30:47And you know, it's by the way, if anybody doesn't know or
- 1:30:51you're listening, we are talking to former 10 year NFL
- 1:30:54linebacker. Jamie winbourne, he played from
- 1:30:562001 to 2010 for the 45. Niners, the Jaguars, the Bucks,
- 1:31:02the Broncos, the Texans and the Titans had a nice long career.
- 1:31:0510 years is a long time. Speaking of defensive players,
- 1:31:09TJ watt becomes the highest paid defensive lineman in NFL
- 1:31:13history, very well deserved you're watching.
- 1:31:15All this money, go to these guys Myles Garrett, got a big
- 1:31:19contract a little while ago. Now you're seeing TJ watt your
- 1:31:22corner. You have sauce Garner making the
- 1:31:24most money out of in NFL history for Corners.
- 1:31:27What are your thoughts to the money?
- 1:31:28That is being delivered now to these great defensive players?
- 1:31:32And I'm happy for him, man. I'm happy for the league itself.
- 1:31:34You know what I mean? I mean, I'm not one of those
- 1:31:37jealous, guys. You know, we, you know, I know I
- 1:31:40had a big part and just helping any player that played in the
- 1:31:43past, has a big part in helping this game get to where it's at
- 1:31:46today. And I'm so happy for those guys
- 1:31:49getting paid that amount of money and I understand I
- 1:31:51understand the Dynamics on how it got to that very well.
- 1:31:54I mean you know you got games on them Amazon you got all kinds of
- 1:31:57stuff Hulu game you know you got a lot of more exposure and a lot
- 1:32:01more a lot more Outlets other than just NFL films like you
- 1:32:05used to be in a couple of stations so these guys you know
- 1:32:08the money's flowing bigger contracts for the owners big you
- 1:32:11know the league is slowly coming up too so I love it.
- 1:32:14I mean those guys TJ all those guys man, those people man.
- 1:32:18Those are some top notch, guys. You know, they deserve the
- 1:32:20money. They're getting man, I'm happy
- 1:32:22for him. You mentioned TJ.
- 1:32:23Have we ever seen a brother Duo dominant like JJ?
- 1:32:27And now teaching, I mean JJ was a great player.
- 1:32:30He was sensational I wasn't a big fan of his.
- 1:32:33I thought, if you look at what he did on a football field, he
- 1:32:36did it against really bad teams, but he put up some really big
- 1:32:39numbers teaching is doing it against anybody.
- 1:32:42Have you have we ever seen two brothers dominate the defensive
- 1:32:46side of the ball like these two? No, not at all.
- 1:32:48I mean, you know, I when I think about it, I mean, You know you
- 1:32:52got those guys from Green Bay. I believe that were brothers.
- 1:32:55I forgot their names one plate, like the end and one Lineback
- 1:32:58Matthew. and and and you know, back when I played what it was,
- 1:33:08different sizes, the ball you had run day and then you had
- 1:33:10damn Tiki but that's different side to the ball but it's but
- 1:33:16but I can't I don't know if I put Tiki on that particular
- 1:33:19level but he's a great player should you know, probably have a
- 1:33:23chance hall of fame or something but Yeah, these two guys man I
- 1:33:26mean I love seeing backyard football came up playing because
- 1:33:30good Lord I something's in the water with that fan.
- 1:33:34I ain't a lot, like his brother, you know, the first they just,
- 1:33:40they just have this this meanness and toughness about
- 1:33:43him. That, you know, you just can't
- 1:33:44train anybody for that shit that you're either come out of the
- 1:33:47womb like that or you don't, you know, but both of them are a
- 1:33:50super, super Elite. Another guy got a big contract
- 1:33:52this offseason from of your team but with the 49ers and Brock
- 1:33:55pretty five years, six, 2654. He he knows what to do, he knows
- 1:34:18where the balls going, he's just like, you know, he knows what
- 1:34:21the offensive coordinator. And Kyle wants to do.
- 1:34:23I mean, he just he just makes the right decisions and he makes
- 1:34:26and he's consistent he's been that way since he started on the
- 1:34:29football field and that's what you're looking for man.
- 1:34:32And he deserves it Man based. On the market and everything and
- 1:34:35he got just what he deserved you think they need?
- 1:34:38What do you think they need in San Francisco to to get it done?
- 1:34:42Is it? Something more on the defensive
- 1:34:45side, on the front five, another weapon.
- 1:34:48Like what do you think? You know, better, you start for
- 1:34:51Naughty. They just got a fucking play
- 1:34:53better. It's got a play.
- 1:34:55No, I mean, it's we got there. We just, you know, we just we,
- 1:34:58you know, we just gotta play better, bro.
- 1:35:00Like, when we're getting a big games, we gotta close it out,
- 1:35:02man. You know, came fucking going to
- 1:35:04overtime with guys and all that other shit.
- 1:35:06We can't do that. We got to get out of there.
- 1:35:08You get up on guys, step on the neck.
- 1:35:10Don't fucking let up and just keep playing, you know what I
- 1:35:13mean? So, And health health.
- 1:35:15And, you know, we got to be healthy, of course, you know,
- 1:35:17you the team that stays at the healthy, the longest in the
- 1:35:21stretch down, you know, in the playoffs.
- 1:35:22That's the team that's gonna have the best chance.
- 1:35:24You got all your weapons and people ready, you know, people
- 1:35:27available, right? I think that I don't know what's
- 1:35:30going on with that. Ew, shit.
- 1:35:32And and parcel right now, I mean that that hurt my heart, but
- 1:35:35hopefully they'll come back time to see some stars but we just
- 1:35:38got to play man. And and don't think about the
- 1:35:40last year's and all that other shit does not count right now.
- 1:35:43Eagles are the reigning Champions right now with the
- 1:35:46best ring I've ever seen in my life by the way.
- 1:35:49And we just got to get to the to the dance.
- 1:35:52Get to the playoffs and we got a fucking perform.
- 1:35:55You know, you speak about the 49ers because you played for
- 1:35:58them and and you were mention, I can and all the story.
- 1:36:01But the story that really sticks out to me.
- 1:36:03As far as I'm concerned, is how many defensive coordinators
- 1:36:06they've gone through over the last five years?
- 1:36:09I mean, ever since Soul has been gone, they've gone through so
- 1:36:12many of them. And Wilkes was there for what?
- 1:36:15One year, they got rid of him and now he's the New York Jets
- 1:36:18defensive coordinator. It's like a flip-flop, will goes
- 1:36:21to the Jets and Robert AK, Bambi Salah.
- 1:36:24As we call him a deer in a headlights, he heads back to San
- 1:36:27Francisco. That was the last time I believe
- 1:36:29the San Francisco 49ers defense was so great.
- 1:36:31And I've spoken about this on the show, is this the year, if,
- 1:36:35if they fall short this year, with everything that we've seen
- 1:36:38in the last three seasons, do The 49ers decide to part ways
- 1:36:43with Kyle Shanahan, if they don't make the playoffs, that's
- 1:36:46back-to-back Seasons, not making the playoffs.
- 1:36:48Does that, does that does that? You know smell like a firing for
- 1:36:53the 49ers if Kyle doesn't get over the hump and get them in
- 1:36:56the playoffs based on. Yeah based on the way way turn
- 1:37:00around going and how owners want to win right now man.
- 1:37:04And you know you're right you know this is a big gear for him.
- 1:37:06You know what I mean? We love you.
- 1:37:09But it is a big year for you, but we, you know, we're close
- 1:37:13getting. I mean, he's gotten us into, you
- 1:37:14know, into the playoffs and all that man.
- 1:37:16But I think that right now, this is the year for him, because if
- 1:37:19he doesn't get there, you know, I do think that there's a
- 1:37:23potential change right there. I just I just really do I just
- 1:37:26now who they will get. That's gonna be better than him
- 1:37:29is a big question, that's not already with.
- 1:37:32Somebody is the question Jamie. Hold on, hold on, but better
- 1:37:35than him. What has Kyle Shanahan done for
- 1:37:38the organization? He went to two, Super Bowls and
- 1:37:40showed. He stopped running the ball and
- 1:37:43it's like, yeah, he hate that, I did hate that but let me
- 1:37:48explain. It is not an easy job to just
- 1:37:51consistently get in the playoffs and consistently be a contender.
- 1:37:54That's what he's giving us. He's been a consistent
- 1:37:56contender. As a head coach, right?
- 1:38:00That's that's his thing just had.
- 1:38:02Just that alone is a big deal, right?
- 1:38:04Because if you train him, you get him out of there.
- 1:38:06You bring some some some okie dokie here.
- 1:38:09That doesn't know what he's doing.
- 1:38:10He's only gonna get one or two. Yeah, we're gonna get at 49ers,
- 1:38:14is organization where you? We don't give you all day to get
- 1:38:17your wins in those days are gone.
- 1:38:19Now, they want it. Now, they don't want to wait and
- 1:38:22build and all that we don't do that.
- 1:38:23Jamie Jamie. When was the last time the 49ers
- 1:38:25won the Super Bowl? Oh shit.
- 1:38:27Now long time ago so long time. So that's what I'm saying.
- 1:38:32What is it? What is he brought to the 49ers?
- 1:38:35He hasn't brought a championship he had he choked and two Super
- 1:38:39Bowls because he stopped running the ball.
- 1:38:41Just look at what they were rated as far as often the
- 1:38:44offensive turn when he was the offensive coordinator over there
- 1:38:48within Atlanta. They had the best run, the
- 1:38:51runoff it all the football. They have two of the best
- 1:38:53running backs in football back to back.
- 1:38:55Then you go over there to say you choke against the The
- 1:38:59Patriots. They come all the way back
- 1:39:00because he stopped running the ball.
- 1:39:01Then he goes over there to the 49ers.
- 1:39:03The first time he met Kansas City in the Super Bowl they had
- 1:39:07a chance to win that game. What did they do in the fourth
- 1:39:09quarter? They stopped running the ball
- 1:39:11and what and all they had to do was run the ball.
- 1:39:13They run the ball, they keep the ball out of Patrick Mahomes his
- 1:39:16hands. They win the game.
- 1:39:18Then what you saw against they, what they did against them, who
- 1:39:22was the other team, that what the Kansas City, what they did
- 1:39:25against these really, but they what did they do?
- 1:39:27They had the best running back in football.
- 1:39:29The best running back in football was up for an MVP.
- 1:39:33What did they do in the second half?
- 1:39:35They stop running in the pool, he barely touched a boy, I think
- 1:39:38he touched up all four times five times for the rest of the
- 1:39:40game. How do you win when you're
- 1:39:42offense is predicated Ron Ron? Ron, Kyle, you're an idiot.
- 1:39:47I think Kyle chenin should have been fired this off season.
- 1:39:51The guys are complete jackass, everybody has a Love Fest for
- 1:39:54him. He got fish, you got everybody,
- 1:39:57you had Owen. Every single person on this damn
- 1:40:00panel of show loves this guy and he hasn't won deadly squat.
- 1:40:05I love it. I'm gonna be biased towards in
- 1:40:07regardless, right? Because I played for his dad and
- 1:40:10I remember back then so I'm always gonna love him.
- 1:40:13And and whoever's with the Niners I'm gonna love, you gotta
- 1:40:17understand that. I do think that he's done a hell
- 1:40:19of a job getting us in position. Now the thing is, when we get to
- 1:40:23those playoffs, it's not just about a coach calling just run.
- 1:40:27Run the ball, run the ball know we're the players bro.
- 1:40:30You gotta play better. Y'all there was plenty.
- 1:40:32Miss tackles missed opportunities.
- 1:40:34All kinds of shit that went on his way.
- 1:40:36It's not just a coach actually the coaches.
- 1:40:38They don't really do that for fucking much to be on with you,
- 1:40:41man. They got, they make a call.
- 1:40:43It's about those guys on the field, bro.
- 1:40:45They got to play better when I talked to my buddy that used to.
- 1:40:48That was on the sidelines that when the Falcons when he was
- 1:40:52with the Falcons. And you know what?
- 1:40:53He told me in about the DBS and the defense over there, they
- 1:40:57freaking let up and He kept telling them, you can't do that.
- 1:41:00That's Tom. Brady over there and they just
- 1:41:02thought they had it made, right? And then they fucking lose the
- 1:41:04game. Oh God.
- 1:41:05You know, so now now player, now, I'm coming.
- 1:41:08Now, I'm coming back at you on this.
- 1:41:10You want to bring up that Atlantic game, all they had to
- 1:41:13do in the fourth quarter they were up by, I think 17.
- 1:41:17All they had to do was run the ball on third down, okay.
- 1:41:34Isis. A Hall of Famer.
- 1:41:41You're gonna blame that on here. I'm not blaming it on him but
- 1:41:45I'm saying this is bro. You can make you gotta take over
- 1:41:48sometimes, dog. That coach might not be calling
- 1:41:51him. We need to run the fucking ball.
- 1:41:53Let's just I know I know what the hell going on in the game.
- 1:41:57We keep trying to throw it when you.
- 1:41:59All right, so you need to run it.
- 1:42:04Why did you stop running the ball?
- 1:42:06I doesn't make sense. It's so stupidity.
- 1:42:09The best thing to do. That's the fucking problem.
- 1:42:16Everybody thinks he's coaches are just fucking Geniuses know.
- 1:42:19That's fucking guy over there. Just Elite.
- 1:42:21He knows what he's doing is, well, if he fucked up in the
- 1:42:24coach looks stupid, Right. If he made I can make the closer
- 1:42:30look really good if I intercept the ball, come on down, you know
- 1:42:33how it is. You make an interception for six
- 1:42:37and win the game hosting make that fucking call, he was on the
- 1:42:40sidelines. So hey, sometimes the players
- 1:42:42got play better and you can't just pick one plate.
- 1:42:44Now you gotta go back in the game dog.
- 1:42:46Everybody could have did something better man it you win
- 1:42:49as a team you fucking lose his team.
- 1:42:50Yeah that's the way I look at it in the coach I'm not I'm not I
- 1:42:54can't I can't blame put too much on those guys you know I I'm not
- 1:42:57with that. I players play better.
- 1:43:00Now, let's take a dump with the team.
- 1:43:02How about that? Apple, we all line up, right by
- 1:43:04the next, you know, Pearl. What do they call them?
- 1:43:06Bowls, portals, whatever the hell.
- 1:43:09Hey, let's sit sit together. And we'll have well, Kyle sit
- 1:43:13between them and take a nice big rocket dump because that's what
- 1:43:16it smells like, anyways. Jamie, we love you, man.
- 1:43:20I know you're fuking go to the game.
- 1:43:23Did you know that? Oh you know what?
- 1:43:25Let's go kick me out. They're not gonna make me come
- 1:43:28to a game. Let's go to a game together.
- 1:43:29How about that? Let's let's hang out together.
- 1:43:32I'll scare the hell out of you. Hey, let's do it.
- 1:43:35I let's let's play it. I'm speedie.
- 1:43:38Let's go to a game together. Let's all go to a game together.
- 1:43:40I think it'll be freaking fun, you know, by the way, there was
- 1:43:43an excellent player, that's an excellent player that owes me a
- 1:43:47football game and speed, you know, I'm talking like no, he's
- 1:43:51a running. Oh, Jacob from a while, Brandon
- 1:43:53Jacobs, that lost the bet with me, about two years ago, and
- 1:43:57still owes me a Jet's job. Oh my, Yes, we might have
- 1:44:02touched the ball in that neighborhood.
- 1:44:03We might have dodged a boat know that gate was in the snow and
- 1:44:07the Jets was like 10 7 and over time doesn't matter, they won.
- 1:44:09I know they won. What is Speedy?
- 1:44:12You always make excuses. I'm tired of your excuses.
- 1:44:14They just beat the Giants. No excuse as are as Jamie comes
- 1:44:19out and tells us. It's not about a count to the
- 1:44:22back of his. So we love you.
- 1:44:24Jamie, you see I like to have fun with you.
- 1:44:26I know your Internet's been on and off but we really appreciate
- 1:44:31you joining us. It's not very easy obviously
- 1:44:33coming on this crazy show and and and working with us really
- 1:44:37enjoyed. Jamie, thank you for joining us,
- 1:44:38buddy. All right, thank you.
- 1:44:42Born. Anyways, let's go to our next
- 1:44:45Sam segment, sounded out. So here I do.
- 1:44:50You mean Jacqueline, let's sound it out.
- 1:44:58All right, guys. Welcome to sounded out phonics
- 1:45:03arrows. God, I don't know about that,
- 1:45:06but let's go. Let's get it going.
- 1:45:08Arrow as always, we have some names here.
- 1:45:12It's NFL de big NFL day. We got a few NFL names.
- 1:45:17The first one is a brother of one of the best players in the
- 1:45:21NFL. Here we go, sounded out.
- 1:45:30What the hell is that? Equanimous Saint Brown.
- 1:45:42This is good try. It was closed.
- 1:45:43Equanimous equanimous, where did you get these names?
- 1:45:48Man who gives them? My name is father as you know
- 1:45:51was a Mr. Olympia. If you remember a documentary
- 1:45:54and he was featured on it. Equanimous Saint Brown.
- 1:45:58Oh for one Arrow. Let's see if we can't get the
- 1:46:01next one. Let's get the music back on.
- 1:46:04Here we go. Errol Sound.
- 1:46:11No chance. Affectionately known as Alberto.
- 1:46:16Albert. Oh no.
- 1:46:24Oh bottom. From the NFL.
- 1:46:33This guy was the backup tight end for the Broncos for a few
- 1:46:36years. It's ok Google.
- 1:46:38Thank God. I don't have to pronounce his
- 1:46:44name. Oh well over two Arrow.
- 1:46:48One more though, you may get it, get us up to 333 All-Star type
- 1:46:53level numbers the music's on Arrow.
- 1:46:56Here it is. Last one sounded.
- 1:47:00Oh, what the hell is this? Oh my God.
- 1:47:06Where do these who names their kids?
- 1:47:10These names? I mean seriously.
- 1:47:13Odie. Hold on ad.
- 1:47:21By wall. Oh man, you actually Got it
- 1:47:28wrong again, but the first name was, right.
- 1:47:31You actually got the first name completely, right?
- 1:47:34Really? Tough one right there.
- 1:47:36Arrow. ADI to me.
- 1:47:42I go to baraf, to freaking listening to these names, I'll
- 1:47:46get drunk. Who the hell names their kids?
- 1:47:49These type of names. I, I'm lost, I'm gonna tell you
- 1:47:53this right now. If, if you guys were not up,
- 1:47:56obviously, you probably couldn't sound it out.
- 1:47:58I know. Speedy probably couldn't have
- 1:47:59sound half those names out. I know that I know the first
- 1:48:02one. I didn't know the other two
- 1:48:03definitively. So I got the first name right on
- 1:48:08the last one. And not the last name on the
- 1:48:11second one. I say I'm with you, but I, in my
- 1:48:13head, I'm like, I sound like an idiot.
- 1:48:16Yeah, you can't sound it out because it's like he can't sound
- 1:48:19it out. I mean, it, because it's a, and
- 1:48:21a is an all and An always. An, ooh.
- 1:48:24I mean, it's, it's ridiculous. How the hell you sound something
- 1:48:27out? That doesn't make any sense.
- 1:48:28If I've never got to think, like, the spelling, oh, I gotta
- 1:48:32say, I mean, like nothing on the nation of origin, which of
- 1:48:36origin, you know, like all that I know about orgy.
- 1:48:41I mean, that's a different thing.
- 1:48:43Yeah, I'm lost. Where these guys get their
- 1:48:45names. I mean, obviously, they're from
- 1:48:47South Africa or they're from Africa, or some of them are
- 1:48:51from, you know, some Greek goddess place in this world.
- 1:48:54Rome I these names. How do you sound out a name that
- 1:48:58you can't sound out? So it just, I'm gonna lose no
- 1:49:02matter what, unless it, actually you could sound it out.
- 1:49:04So maybe you should like, you know, chop up the name and make
- 1:49:07it sound like, so I can pronounce it or the
- 1:49:10pronunciation. I am, I'm lost with these names.
- 1:49:12I bet you Matt O'Leary couldn't add probably couldn't sound
- 1:49:16those names out either. I mean, I guarantee you Mac
- 1:49:19couldn't sound those out. I'm just say.
- 1:49:21All right, you know, that would be fun if you have one fish.
- 1:49:25Let him just try one. Yeah, I'll be well, maybe we
- 1:49:28will, and he does, he doesn't announce names.
- 1:49:30So he has to, he has to get him. He might have, I bet you he
- 1:49:34won't. I bet she doesn't get one.
- 1:49:35Right. I bet she doesn't get one,
- 1:49:37right. I don't put it back up.
- 1:49:38Know what to go to aren't? We going to a break first?
- 1:49:41Are we going to a quick? No, we're not going to.
- 1:49:43All right, so let's bring him in.
- 1:49:44Let's bring Madeline now, what's up buddy?
- 1:49:48Hey guys. Thank you so much for having me
- 1:49:49tonight. Absolutely, well, thank you for
- 1:49:51coming on. As always, I, we we love when
- 1:49:53you come on, and if you guys don't know who I'm at O'Leary as
- 1:49:56well, then you guys are idiots. I'm just kidding.
- 1:49:58He is the host of jets pod and talking Jets.
- 1:50:03He also does an Islander show Sensational if you're an
- 1:50:06Islander fan, which we'll talk some Islander hockey, the big
- 1:50:09news and a lot of good news for the New York Islanders, I think
- 1:50:11the Islanders are sitting pretty for the next three years.
- 1:50:14I give the island, just three or four years and the Islanders are
- 1:50:17going to be cup contenders. They added some young superstars
- 1:50:19in this year's draft. I love what I love what Matthew
- 1:50:23did in the draft. And I'm interested to see what
- 1:50:26they do and the next two seasons, and if they land one of
- 1:50:29those big free agents next year and we all know who they are,
- 1:50:32there's one of them is gonna make David.
- 1:50:34Yeah, I think he's staying with the Edmonton Oilers, but a lot
- 1:50:37of Ranger fans, quote on quote. Think that there's a
- 1:50:39possibility, I think they're on drugs, but there's somebody in
- 1:50:42Minnesota that the Islanders are gunning for and I hope there's a
- 1:50:47possibility. For that.
- 1:50:48But not. I want to give you I we have a
- 1:50:51segment called sounded out. I cannot pronounce certain names
- 1:50:55in professional sports and I'm sure a lot of other people cant.
- 1:50:59So we're gonna give you one or two names.
- 1:51:02Let me see if you can sound it out.
- 1:51:03Are you ready? Yeah, let's do it.
- 1:51:05All right, here we go. Let's get some music.
- 1:51:07Let's get the music on. Let's get the music from Matt.
- 1:51:09Here it is, Matt. Errol just went over three on
- 1:51:14this list, I think anybody would go over 300 sounded out.
- 1:51:20Equanimous Saint Brown. Yeah, that's pretty good.
- 1:51:24We're gonna give him credit for that.
- 1:51:25Hey, wait a second, what is it? Equanimous.
- 1:51:28Same brown. All right, I give him back.
- 1:51:30Give him credit. All right, give them.
- 1:51:31All right. Next one music back on.
- 1:51:35This one, he's not getting I promise you this.
- 1:51:42Should be working in a second. And here it is.
- 1:51:48Hey, Matt. Albert.
- 1:51:53A quick Uno. All right, so this one is Ocoee
- 1:52:01bun. The other one.
- 1:52:06Wanna give him another one. Give him the last one because I
- 1:52:09want all that's the hardest one. The last one.
- 1:52:12Yeah that's the hardest one. This guy is a cold steel lineman
- 1:52:17Sounded out. And it's at it to Mila.
- 1:52:23Oh God, at a out of a war egg. Oh, I give it to.
- 1:52:30All right, it is Addie. Tomiwa Eddie Barrie, not fun,
- 1:52:35not not pretty close, not pretty close.
- 1:52:37I think, that's, I think that's a one and a half out of three.
- 1:52:40He's better. He was better than me at that,
- 1:52:42that's for sure. He better at sounding names out,
- 1:52:45all right, I'm not. I I'm the horrible.
- 1:52:48I'm a horrible person and hockey names are even worse.
- 1:52:51So if you put a hockey name up there, I can absolutely butcher
- 1:52:54hockey name. But Matt, there is a lot to get
- 1:52:57into with the New York Jets. The Jets made some interesting
- 1:53:00moves in the offseason and one of the big moves that just
- 1:53:04happened over the last 40. I would say the last week was
- 1:53:08the signing of Garrett Wilson and sauce Garner.
- 1:53:11There was a lot of questions with the Garrett Wilson one
- 1:53:14Garrett Wilson is paying he's getting top five money.
- 1:53:17I don't think he's a top five receiver.
- 1:53:20We Have not seen top five acrobatic, you know, wide
- 1:53:26receiving plays from this guy, he made one last year, which was
- 1:53:29incredible, but he not. He's been in the league for over
- 1:53:32three years. He hasn't had one season with 10
- 1:53:34touchdowns and he has broken 1000 yards and all three
- 1:53:38seasons. But Just inches.
- 1:53:40Not make, you're not breaking the 1000 yards.
- 1:53:43I I think they overpaid for him, but sauce Garners very well
- 1:53:47deserved even though last year was an off-year for him.
- 1:53:50Your thoughts to both signings and why do you think the Jets
- 1:53:54gave Garrett Wilson that kind of money?
- 1:53:56Yeah. So for Garrett I hear what
- 1:53:58you're saying, right? I think some of that contract is
- 1:54:01a little projection based, but when you look at where the wide
- 1:54:05receiver Market is right now and you see like top guys, like
- 1:54:08Justin Jefferson getting close to 40 million dollars a year.
- 1:54:12I think they actually got okay value for Garrett when special.
- 1:54:16When you consider DK Metcalf God, I think 30th.
- 1:54:19So a little bit higher too, and I think Garrett's a better
- 1:54:22receiver than what DK is. But, you know, 32 and a half the
- 1:54:26Caps going up every year and, you know, unfortunately, with
- 1:54:29just how the contracts structures go, you know, just
- 1:54:32because he was the next man up, he's gonna be the one who's
- 1:54:35gonna get, you know, a lot of money and, you know, Drake
- 1:54:38London, who was in that same draft class, hasn't gotten paid
- 1:54:41yet. I'm sure he's gonna beat the 32
- 1:54:42and a half or whatever it was for Garrett Wilson.
- 1:54:45So timing is really important with these ones and you're right
- 1:54:49with sauce, you know, he gets paid, you know highest paid
- 1:54:52corner in the NFL, just 30.1 million a little bit more than
- 1:54:55Derek Stingley got I get it, he's coming off, a little bit of
- 1:54:58a Down year for his standard last year, but to me, you can't
- 1:55:02ignore the two All Pro Seasons that he had in his first two
- 1:55:05years. So I'm all good with both of
- 1:55:08these contracts and I think you want to have those two guys, as
- 1:55:11you're building block pieces, going forward over the next few
- 1:55:14years. Yeah, I wanted to mention sauce
- 1:55:15because I've always brought up the fact that I think a lot of
- 1:55:17his even though he had a down here for his standards.
- 1:55:19I think a lot of it was lack of effort, I know but people were
- 1:55:22questioning his tackling throughout the year I think
- 1:55:23stole his Advanced metrics were still a lot of them were still
- 1:55:26very good where he was still kind of a top 10 top 15 Corner,
- 1:55:29even with those circumstances, do you think that was the
- 1:55:31biggest reason or is there something else?
- 1:55:32Yeah, I look at it that way too. The tackling to me was the
- 1:55:38biggest concern with him. He had if you look at his stats
- 1:55:41last year, it was really only one, not so great game against
- 1:55:44Tennessee. I think he gave up like 97 yards
- 1:55:46and a touchdown in that one, but other than that he pretty much
- 1:55:50was locked down and coverage. I know a lot of people want to
- 1:55:52see him turn, you know, create more turnovers and I think
- 1:55:55that's probably the next step in His development and hopefully
- 1:55:59something that, you know, his head coach, former cornerback
- 1:56:01Aaron, Glenn can help him with, you know, improving and creating
- 1:56:04more turnovers, but I agree. I think, even, you know, to his
- 1:56:07standard, he wasn't, you know, top three guy, but he's still a
- 1:56:10top 10 corner and, you know, you have two first team All Pro
- 1:56:13Seasons, you're gonna get paid as the top guy.
- 1:56:15So I think you're on the money with that one, man.
- 1:56:18What do you think, how important this year is for Jermaine
- 1:56:21Johnson? Obviously we've seen the money.
- 1:56:22They've given on that side of the ball.
- 1:56:24Do you think like this is a maker break year?
- 1:56:26Because they picked up the extra service contracts through 26.
- 1:56:29But do you think for the extension like how big and
- 1:56:33important obviously the numbers that they've spent on that side
- 1:56:35of the ball? Yeah, it's going to be a huge
- 1:56:38year for him, especially coming off the Achilles injury.
- 1:56:40I think you just you want to see where he's at in the recovery,
- 1:56:44he's gonna start on the pup list, which I'm not all that
- 1:56:47surprised with. If they're gonna take it slow
- 1:56:49with him, he seems, you know, on social media, he's putting out
- 1:56:52videos of him training and he says, he's ready to go.
- 1:56:54But, you know, I would expect them to take it easy with him at
- 1:56:58the beginning of the year, just because that's such a
- 1:57:00devastating injury, especially for a defensive lineman where
- 1:57:03using so much torque to get off the line of scrimmage and, you
- 1:57:06know, beat the snap count. So, it might take him a few
- 1:57:09weeks, but it is a huge year for him, because, you know, it's
- 1:57:12your four, you'd be going into next year.
- 1:57:14Your five of the rookie deal the last year of his rookie
- 1:57:17contract. So if he has a good year, I do
- 1:57:20think he would be someone that they looked to extend, but it's
- 1:57:23gonna be really, really dependent on health and how you
- 1:57:26know, he comes back from this injury We are talking to the
- 1:57:29host of just Jets pod and talking jet show.
- 1:57:33Matt, O'Leary has been on a show, he's a big jets guy.
- 1:57:36He's a big Islander guy and we're talking Jets football
- 1:57:39right now and Aaron Glenn, to me was an important signing for the
- 1:57:43New York Jets, and the Jets over the years.
- 1:57:45They've reached when it came to coaching and I, I'll say this,
- 1:57:49Robert Saleh was not a jet Rex. Ryan's father, obviously, was a
- 1:57:53coach for the New York Jets, but he wasn't a jet.
- 1:57:55Todd Bowles was a Washington Commander.
- 1:57:58We could go on and on in the Jets coaches over the years,
- 1:58:01they were not yet, facts are facts.
- 1:58:04This guy was drafted by the Jets.
- 1:58:06This guy was a pro bowl player for the Jets.
- 1:58:08In four years. He was one of the top five
- 1:58:10corners in all the football, the last Jet and we talked about it,
- 1:58:15the three jets that you think about over the years that the
- 1:58:18Jets have drafted. Obviously Darrelle Revis.
- 1:58:21Now you have sauce Garner and Aaron Glenn.
- 1:58:24Now he is the head coach, they should hide him hired him when,
- 1:58:27when he was Getting interviewed, when Robert solid got hired.
- 1:58:30They went the Robert solar out, because of what he did with the
- 1:58:3249ers, it was a bad move. As Bambi was a deer in the
- 1:58:36headlights as we speak about. He's back with Samford Cisco.
- 1:58:38What kind of Coach do you believe Aaron?
- 1:58:42Glenn is going to be with the New York Jets.
- 1:58:44What is he bring to the table, which other coaches haven't done
- 1:58:47over the years? To me the first word that I
- 1:58:51think of with Aaron Glenn is intensity.
- 1:58:53I just think, you know, anytime you hear him talk and you get
- 1:58:56those behind the scenes, you know, looks at how he's talking
- 1:58:59with the team. He comes across as very intense
- 1:59:02and, you know, I would still categorize him as a player's
- 1:59:05coach and Robert. Salah was as well.
- 1:59:06But Robert Saleh wanted to be everyone's buddy and I don't
- 1:59:09think that's really the approach that Aaron Glenn's gonna take
- 1:59:11here. What I like about him is
- 1:59:13something that you mentioned, right?
- 1:59:14This guy who was drafted by the Jets played here and he was a
- 1:59:17part of the Jets won of the Jets biggest turnarounds, and their
- 1:59:20franchise history, right? Like they go from a bottom
- 1:59:23feeder team with Rich coat as their head coach Bill Parcells
- 1:59:27gets hired and they go on a run, you know, a 98 and that kind of
- 1:59:30set the foundation for the success in the early 2000s.
- 1:59:33And, you know, he was there when they were at their bottom and he
- 1:59:36was able to see it get better progressively year over year and
- 1:59:40so they finally make that AFC Championship game in 98.
- 1:59:43So, with the experience that he had one under Bill Parcells, but
- 1:59:47two then as a player here with the Jets, I think he knows what
- 1:59:51it takes to win a New York, which is really important.
- 1:59:53I don't, I don't know if Robert Saleh or Todd Bowles or Adam
- 1:59:58gase. Really knew what they were
- 1:59:59getting into when coming here but you certainly don't have
- 2:00:02those concerns with a guy like Aaron Glenn.
- 2:00:03So what are your, what was your thought with a lot of the draft
- 2:00:06picks, a lot of people were saying that they made a mistake
- 2:00:08passing on Tyler Warren. They draft on my member who I
- 2:00:10think is a really good counter to fashion.
- 2:00:12Like I think they're two very opposite style but they make it
- 2:00:14work. Mason Taylor, the second round
- 2:00:16pick. I was a big fan of Malachi more.
- 2:00:18The safety they got in the fourth round.
- 2:00:19Like what were your thoughts with some of the values they got
- 2:00:21in this draft? Yeah, I really liked the
- 2:00:25approach. They took early on, right?
- 2:00:26Like there was a debate, it was a fair side if you wanted them
- 2:00:30to take Tyler Warren. Because head-end was such a
- 2:00:32position of Need for this team. But you know, finishing the
- 2:00:36offensive line with Armand. Member it makes sense, right?
- 2:00:39Like, there's a team that wants to be, you know, a run-heavy
- 2:00:42dominant, you know, intense football team and Armand
- 2:00:46members. Like that's all the qualities
- 2:00:48that he has. He's gonna be a dominant force
- 2:00:49in the Run game. That's really his strength.
- 2:00:51And then you get Mason Taylor in the second round to, you know, I
- 2:00:55really like the receiving production that he had at LSU
- 2:00:58and another one with NFL lineage, right?
- 2:01:00Is that Jason Taylor had a long and NFL career.
- 2:01:03So as long as they came away in my opinion with a, with a right
- 2:01:08tackle and tight end in the first two rounds, I was gonna be
- 2:01:10happy with it. They went offensive tackle first
- 2:01:13and then tight end, I think, you know, Taylor in the second
- 2:01:16round, this good value. And you mentioned more on day
- 2:01:19three. I think that was my favorite
- 2:01:20pick on day three. So, some of the other pics I
- 2:01:23thought, Were, you know, a little bit of a head scratcher
- 2:01:25like Aryan Smith, the wide receiver goes, you know, a few
- 2:01:28rounds earlier than I think. Anyone was expecting him to go
- 2:01:30and then they take the two guys from Miami at the end of the
- 2:01:33draft, but you know, Malachi Moore specially at strong
- 2:01:36safety. He's gonna compete for a
- 2:01:38starting job and training camp. Yeah, so we got training camp.
- 2:01:41I'm glad you brought that up and I segue.
- 2:01:43What do you think? The goal of this training camp?
- 2:01:45Obviously, with Aaron getting the head and, you know, bringing
- 2:01:48these guys. What do you think?
- 2:01:49The goal is for Something like this with the kind of creating a
- 2:01:55nucleus with the head coach and and certain things like that
- 2:01:58because I get it's not a long time but there's value to it and
- 2:02:01getting know each other and what is expected.
- 2:02:03So what do you think one of their things or multiple things
- 2:02:06that they're going to focus on in this camp?
- 2:02:09Yeah I think you know it's specially when it's a new
- 2:02:11coaching staff like you you mentioned and they have a new
- 2:02:13quarterback this year with Justin Fields coming in.
- 2:02:16So the biggest thing that I'll be looking for in training camp
- 2:02:19is you know how the installation of the offense is going?
- 2:02:22We know with the defense there's a lot of Talent on that side of
- 2:02:25the ball. Erin's a defensive minded head
- 2:02:28coach, Steve Wilks veteran, defensive coordinator.
- 2:02:31I'm not as concerned on that side but you know, Justin
- 2:02:34Fields. He has to a lot to prove this
- 2:02:36year. This is probably his last chance
- 2:02:38to prove that he could be a starter in the NFL.
- 2:02:40And you have a first time, offensive coordinator and tenor.
- 2:02:43Angstrom. So the thing, I'll be keeping my
- 2:02:45eye on is just how well it's seems like the offense is
- 2:02:48adapting because anytime you're installing a new offense, that's
- 2:02:51hard enough. But when you insert a new
- 2:02:53quarterback into the full two, who has to build chemistry with
- 2:02:56these receivers here, that that takes a little bit of time, he
- 2:03:00was never coached very well in Chicago.
- 2:03:02He was never coached very well in Pittsburgh.
- 2:03:04No offense to my Tomlin, he doesn't know how to develop,
- 2:03:07quote backs. Let's be on us.
- 2:03:09He had Kenny Pickett there, did he develop him know?
- 2:03:11He didn't even, he didn't develop Ben Roethlisberger.
- 2:03:14So I had a great quarterback at Ben.
- 2:03:16He did win a championship with been good for him, but the guy
- 2:03:20has never gotten over to hump with the quarterbacks.
- 2:03:22As a matter of fact, eight years in a row, getting knocked out in
- 2:03:25the first round. So we all know what the
- 2:03:26Pittsburgh Steelers are. The I think Justin Fields has
- 2:03:30been really thrown to the, the Wolves over the last couple of
- 2:03:33years. Not getting a chance that
- 2:03:35Chicago, Chicago Bears are an organization that edits and
- 2:03:38pieces. They added more over there but
- 2:03:40he never stayed healthy, and never gave him a good offensive
- 2:03:44line. The offensive line was
- 2:03:45absolutely garbage. So, Justin Fields is a running
- 2:03:48quarterback and he really wasn't coached right to.
- 2:03:51We see. Lamar Jackson look what?
- 2:03:53Look at the Lamar Jackson. We've seen over the years,
- 2:03:56really, develop into a pass. Happy quarterback when he came
- 2:03:59into the league from Louisville. What was he was a running
- 2:04:02quarterback that can throw has a gun for an arm but couldn't
- 2:04:05complete passes. Now, look at him, he's one of
- 2:04:07the best pastures and Elite. If If Justin Fields is put on
- 2:04:11the right roster with the right coach, I think he could develop.
- 2:04:15And by the way, Aaron Glenn, I heard before, and I knew Aaron
- 2:04:18Glenn was gonna get hired because they were stories coming
- 2:04:21out. That Aaron Glenn.
- 2:04:21When he went in his first interview that they asked him,
- 2:04:24where would you go for quarterback?
- 2:04:26And he said the first move, I would, I would have this is what
- 2:04:29I heard from an inside source. If I were to make a move, I want
- 2:04:33Justin Fields, I played, I played against Justin Fields, I
- 2:04:36think he would be a good fit over here.
- 2:04:37The way we want to run the ball and what did they Jets?
- 2:04:40Do once trade once the free agency market opened up and I
- 2:04:43called it the first move they were going to make was bringing
- 2:04:46Justin Fields. So I expected that the guy that
- 2:04:49I want to talk to you about was Will McDonald's will MacDonald
- 2:04:53had a sensational year taking over for Jermaine John Jermaine
- 2:04:57Johnson, who went down your thoughts to what this guy could
- 2:05:00be. Because a lot of people took
- 2:05:02shots at the the thought of bringing him in drafting him as
- 2:05:07the 15th pick in the first round.
- 2:05:09Some people thought he was a second round early second round
- 2:05:11Allen. What are you think?
- 2:05:12Will McDonald's could be as a stretch defensive end in this
- 2:05:16league? I think he's immensely talented
- 2:05:19and we saw it last year as the pass rusher.
- 2:05:21What excites me about him this year?
- 2:05:23Is he finally put on a little bit more weight?
- 2:05:27I think he had a 15 pounds in the offseason which He could use
- 2:05:31it one and I don't think he's gonna lose the speed off the
- 2:05:34edge. That's his calling card but he
- 2:05:35wasn't very good against the run.
- 2:05:37That was part of the reason why he wasn't on the field as much
- 2:05:40earlier in his career but the added weight should help him
- 2:05:43shedding blocks and being a little bit more of a factor in
- 2:05:46the Run game. So honestly you know entering
- 2:05:48his third year in the league. This could be someone who's
- 2:05:51becoming a more complete Edge player, which again, is
- 2:05:54important. It's nice to have someone who
- 2:05:56can give you 10 plus sacks. But if they're a liability in
- 2:05:59the Run, are they going to be playing on early Downs?
- 2:06:02Probably not as much. So I would expect to snap count
- 2:06:05to increase a lot this year, and I'm very confident in him taking
- 2:06:10another step in his development. So more sacks better against the
- 2:06:13run and just a better overall player in your three.
- 2:06:16So this offense is now coming into this kind of lions mold
- 2:06:19offense and Aaron Glenn mentioned, he wanted Justin
- 2:06:21Fields he's played against him. Actually played very well
- 2:06:23against the Lions defense. A lot of the time and obviously,
- 2:06:26Breece Hall has been a feature running back at certain points,
- 2:06:28but the lions always did the running back by committee with
- 2:06:30Montgomery. And Gibbs and making that kind
- 2:06:31of thing work, Brandon Allen second round or third round pick
- 2:06:34last year. Like do you expect that kind of
- 2:06:36approach offensively to be similar to the Lions?
- 2:06:38Or do you think it'll be kind of their own Niche still?
- 2:06:41Yeah, I do think it's going to be similar.
- 2:06:43You mentioned the two backs and gives in Montgomery.
- 2:06:46I think the Jets are going to try to use Breece Hall and
- 2:06:48Braille and Alan as their own version of that duo especially
- 2:06:52when they get down by the goal line.
- 2:06:54I would I would think that Braille and Alan has the bigger
- 2:06:56back is gonna come in in the short yardage situations.
- 2:06:58And you know I thought early on in the season he looked good.
- 2:07:02There were points where it looked like he was taking a step
- 2:07:04forward then kind of got a little bit quiet in the second
- 2:07:07half of the year. You know Breece probably didn't
- 2:07:09have the season that he wanted to last year.
- 2:07:12I really think a big reason for that was this offensive scheme?
- 2:07:16Just in general wasn't very good.
- 2:07:18And you know, the offensive line coach Keith Carter and how they
- 2:07:20schemed up the Run game. I look at as a really big
- 2:07:23weakness and you know they're no longer here, it's a new
- 2:07:25offensive staff. And you know, I'm still holding
- 2:07:28onto my priest Hall stock and now he's going to last year's
- 2:07:30deal. We'll see if they extend them or
- 2:07:32what they want to do there, but I think he could have a big
- 2:07:35season in this offense. I'm glad you brought all up
- 2:07:38because in and as we talked about Jermaine Johnson, earlier,
- 2:07:41when you, when you're getting into like, you know, Different.
- 2:07:47Offense is an expression in the last year of your contract.
- 2:07:50Do you feel like it's they put more pressure to perform or to
- 2:07:55like, hey, what can I do to help this team win?
- 2:07:57Because you're going to run a double back set at some point.
- 2:07:59And especially going into your last your last contract year.
- 2:08:03Basically. I mean, that's a tough to do
- 2:08:05anytime because you do put pressure on yourself.
- 2:08:08But do you think it makes it a little harder going into it and
- 2:08:11trying to learn a new offense? Yeah, I would say that it
- 2:08:14definitely does because that's just, you know, an added extra
- 2:08:17Factor Weighing on his mind, right?
- 2:08:19Like there's no guarantee for him and injuries have
- 2:08:22unfortunately, been, you know, a part of his career through the
- 2:08:25first few years of his career has been very banged up.
- 2:08:27So you know, there's nothing guaranteed he needs to have a
- 2:08:30big season in order to cash in on that payday but you know, all
- 2:08:34so and then you had on top of that too.
- 2:08:35Like you said he's learning a new offense which you know isn't
- 2:08:38easy. But as I was saying with, you
- 2:08:41know the the new scheme that they're implementing, I think
- 2:08:43they're going to get back to running more of a wide Zone
- 2:08:46Russian attack, which kind of fits his skillset more so than
- 2:08:50just running up. The middle inside Zone.
- 2:08:52All day, I don't think it was really, you know, the best or
- 2:08:56way to get the most out of him and plus two.
- 2:08:58I think he'll be used more as a pass catcher which he showed a
- 2:09:02signs his last year that he could do that very well.
- 2:09:04So, yeah, I do, you know, it's answer your question.
- 2:09:07I do absolutely think that, you know, the, the contract is
- 2:09:10something that could be weighing on him and it does that Edit
- 2:09:13pressure. I want to get into the New York
- 2:09:15Islanders. They had a sensational law
- 2:09:16offices in their draft. Was what?
- 2:09:19First of all, I love what the NFL.
- 2:09:21I'm sorry, the NHL did having the draft on television,
- 2:09:24actually watching the Bulls fall to the New York Islanders, how
- 2:09:27it felt. I actually watched your podcast
- 2:09:30after it all happened. And I saw how excited you were
- 2:09:33and I saw that you wanted Higgins or Misa.
- 2:09:37I was I was looking at that too but Schaefer was just that kind
- 2:09:41of talent. I even made a bet with somebody
- 2:09:43to take him to dinner because I just didn't think that the
- 2:09:45Islanders were gonna go with shave.
- 2:09:46Her and I was reading stories about how he interviewed at the,
- 2:09:50the combined and how much they love this kid, what he did, you
- 2:09:54know, the back end of his mother passing away and yeah as a young
- 2:09:58man, how he's growing so fast. He's 17, 18 years old and they
- 2:10:02say he's he's like a 26 27 year old.
- 2:10:04This guy could be the future captain of the, the New York
- 2:10:07Islanders and then making that trade trading, one of their
- 2:10:11young defensemen and no adoption.
- 2:10:13I was at his draft, I interviewed him when he was
- 2:10:15drafted, where everybody thought he was the future for their
- 2:10:18defense, he's one of the better offensive defenseman in a
- 2:10:21league. As soon as they went with shea
- 2:10:23fry, I knew they were going to move from Noah's option because
- 2:10:25they didn't want to pay him nine and a half million dollars.
- 2:10:26And then there were stories coming out.
- 2:10:28I heard a story that at four what Utah, sitting there, the
- 2:10:32Islanders reached out to Utah because they wanted to trade up
- 2:10:36after trading. No adoption.
- 2:10:38They had, they were sitting at, I think, 16 and 17.
- 2:10:40They wanted to move those picks and move.
- 2:10:43Somebody else to move up to four to get James Hagen.
- 2:10:46And the Utah wanted barsell, there was no way they were
- 2:10:51trading bars out. That was the story.
- 2:10:52They were not doing that. Your thoughts to the Islanders
- 2:10:56draft especially in the first round, where I think slam dunk
- 2:10:59the first round. And they added another
- 2:11:01defenseman at number 17, who a lot of people think is the steal
- 2:11:05of the draft. Yeah, I really loved the
- 2:11:09approach that they took and you're right, you know what, my
- 2:11:11initial reaction, I thought, okay, great, like, get a goal
- 2:11:14scorer, here, James Hagen's, local kid.
- 2:11:16That would be a great story or Michael Meese escort, you know,
- 2:11:19like 60 goals this past year. But the more the process went on
- 2:11:24and whether it was the interviews or the stories that
- 2:11:27came out with Matthew, Schaefer it felt like there was a bit of
- 2:11:30a transition to, okay, like this, kid's the obvious number
- 2:11:33one, and from there like he's such a good skater or, you know,
- 2:11:37you pulled up the video right here of him going Coast to
- 2:11:39Coast, that's such an important part of today's game.
- 2:11:41For these defenseman, you have to be able to get the puck out
- 2:11:44of your own end. It was an issue that the
- 2:11:46Islanders had or have had for a really long time and he's gonna
- 2:11:50help with that. I think he's someone, you know,
- 2:11:52as a number one overall pick that he's gonna be a number one
- 2:11:55defenseman sooner rather than later.
- 2:11:57And then Plus on top of that, after you trade, Noah Dobson,
- 2:12:00you mentioned that you had, you know, Victor Ecklund who a lot
- 2:12:03of people had in their top 10 fell to them at 16 and then Kay,
- 2:12:07Sean. HSN.
- 2:12:07He's just a massive human being. He throws the body around, he's
- 2:12:12not afraid to get physical so they add, you know, two
- 2:12:15additional prospects in and you get into the Brock Nelson trade
- 2:12:19from in season. You have another first round
- 2:12:21pick next year so you have two first next year.
- 2:12:23Three from this year, really feels like the Islanders are
- 2:12:27going with the youth approach which is desperately needed.
- 2:12:29Yeah, I won't ask if, like kind of trading a lot of those
- 2:12:32veteran pieces because I have contracts that didn't seem like
- 2:12:34they were very movable. Obviously, Anders Lee is the
- 2:12:37biggest one. That's probably gonna be very
- 2:12:38hard but then you get the other two defense with Pelican pool.
- 2:12:41Lock that have any injury issues in recent years.
- 2:12:43Do you see this front office exploring trade for a?
- 2:12:45Lot of those veteran guys. This soft seasoning.
- 2:12:46Are you think it's more in season maybe with them?
- 2:12:50Yeah, I think the two guys that I would look at in season are
- 2:12:53and there's Lee who you mentioned, and also JG patio.
- 2:12:56I feel like there's been a lot of interest in Pedro's name
- 2:12:59going back to last trade deadline.
- 2:13:01And, you know, you look at the deadline teams, are always
- 2:13:05looking to trade for depth scoring and guys who win face
- 2:13:09offs and our playoff performers and that's, you know, JG Peugeot
- 2:13:12to a tee and you have Kyle Richie, you know, the prospect
- 2:13:15that you got in the Brock Nelson trade, who's knocking on the
- 2:13:18door. If he's ready at some point this
- 2:13:20year to get called up to the NHL, they're going to need to
- 2:13:23open up a spot in that forward group.
- 2:13:24And the next man out, I would think would be JG.
- 2:13:28Pedro via trade. I'd like to get your perspective
- 2:13:31because you covered both football and hockey.
- 2:13:34Do you prefer one of the other or do you like the Dynamics of
- 2:13:38how this sports are similar? But different Yeah.
- 2:13:42For for me I've been into football a lot longer and that's
- 2:13:47been my number one, sport for a lot longer that I've covered.
- 2:13:49So I just feel like I'm more comfortable with that but I
- 2:13:53think the Stanley Cup playoffs are the the best playoffs in all
- 2:13:56of sports. So I'm a little biased for that
- 2:13:58because I cover it but it's just the intensity is really what I
- 2:14:02love about and you could say in both Sports too in football and
- 2:14:06in hockey, but I think what sets hockey apart is what they what
- 2:14:11happens to come play off time and how it becomes a different
- 2:14:14game. I think it's an underrated
- 2:14:16sport. You know like football's number
- 2:14:18one here in the country and a lot of people are basketball and
- 2:14:20baseball fans and hockey's a little bit under the radar but
- 2:14:22man when it gets to play off time there's nothing better than
- 2:14:25playoffs. Don't you age like seven years
- 2:14:27every playoffs just because it's so long in the intensity of it.
- 2:14:30Like I get exhausted and I don't have to cover it, ya know, 100%
- 2:14:35like when the Islanders were going on there you know deep
- 2:14:37runs in 2020 and 2021 it felt like like you said, losing Years
- 2:14:42off your life, watching those watching.
- 2:14:44Those games and over. That's what we call them
- 2:14:47sleeping. Up, the lightning took up the
- 2:14:50Islanders on the Rangers twice at like seven years, you know,
- 2:14:52Matt I it's funny every time I'm around every time I've been to
- 2:14:56an Islander, you know, event and I've been to quite a few of them
- 2:14:59I get invited because obviously, I host a radio show, I'm an
- 2:15:02Islander guy and I'm the voice of the Islanders on 103.9.
- 2:15:05So I we do the pregame shows for them.
- 2:15:08So it's funny because when I go to these events, you see all the
- 2:15:12old Islanders, nystrom's always there and you and that Bobby is
- 2:15:16so nice. So gracious, so I love having a
- 2:15:19conversation with him. Lou was a year ago, I went to an
- 2:15:22event loose shows up. He's so small and he, he's so
- 2:15:25weird, he's standing in the middle of once he walks in, he's
- 2:15:29standing right there. And you would think that
- 2:15:31everybody would be running to Lou lamaraux because he's,
- 2:15:34obviously, he's a Hall of Famer or he's won.
- 2:15:37Three Stanley Cups with the New Jersey Devils.
- 2:15:39I mean, he was the face, okay? Of the New York Islanders, and
- 2:15:43nobody gave a crop. And I went up to Lou and I'll
- 2:15:46never forget the story and I walked up Him.
- 2:15:49I said, listen, I I don't want to mention any of the players
- 2:15:51that you brought in but Sorokin is expecting contract.
- 2:15:54Where are you going with that? He says, well what do you think
- 2:15:56I'm gonna do with it? I said I think you're gonna
- 2:15:58assign him. He's like, well, that's a good
- 2:15:59bet. So well, I mean where did you
- 2:16:01get your information? He was being a smart-ass.
- 2:16:04So I said, so I started being a smart-ass?
- 2:16:06Damn, I said, well, how do you like the trades over the last
- 2:16:08couple of years trading all those picks and not Landing or
- 2:16:11not bringing in a Stanley Cup? Like you, you thought you were
- 2:16:14gonna do back-to-back years and he says, well, you know, you you
- 2:16:17win some, you lose some. I say no.
- 2:16:19The Islanders lose some, a lot of some.
- 2:16:21So, and he looked at me and he was like, wow, you're you're a
- 2:16:24sensational person, maybe I should give you another
- 2:16:26interview. I said, maybe she should it and
- 2:16:28I walked away from him, so I and nobody cared that he was there.
- 2:16:32So I go back to the Islanders now, and I look at the
- 2:16:35organization they brought in Matthew darsh now.
- 2:16:37I I like Matt he's been a successful assistant over there
- 2:16:43with Tampa. He want to Stanley Cup.
- 2:16:45He's he's been with an organization that knows how to
- 2:16:48win. A winning culture.
- 2:16:49Very young talented team. Over the years now they've
- 2:16:54become a veteran team. What are your thoughts?
- 2:16:57What I was listening to Holland? I heard Holland's name being
- 2:17:00brought up all these different old, you know, managers or GMS.
- 2:17:04And, and I said, what are the Islanders thinking if they bring
- 2:17:07one of these idiots? In it's, it's like bringing
- 2:17:09another sleeping Lewin, but they went with the younger guy when
- 2:17:12when they brought in Matthew. What were your thoughts?
- 2:17:15Were you happy, were you excited?
- 2:17:16What type of guy do you think Matthew brings to brings to the
- 2:17:20table for the New York Islanders?
- 2:17:22Yeah, I was definitely excited like you I didn't want to go
- 2:17:25down like the older retread route with the general manager
- 2:17:28just because it would have felt too similar to what they had
- 2:17:31with Lou Amarillo and you know darsh is a younger guy.
- 2:17:34This is his first shot at being a GM but was with an
- 2:17:37organization in Tampa Bay. That's been so good for so long.
- 2:17:40I think you're obviously hoping that he takes some of, you know
- 2:17:43what, he's learned there and applies it to the island.
- 2:17:46There's what I like is how much he's put an emphasis on speed
- 2:17:50and defense that anytime we talk to you talks about speed and
- 2:17:54defense and you know the defense has gotten worse over the last
- 2:17:57few years. That was the owners calling card
- 2:17:59in the barry trotz era but that's kind of gone away and
- 2:18:02speeds been an issue for a long time.
- 2:18:03So this off season, I think they did a lot to try to get faster
- 2:18:08and play a more modern style of hockey which is which is good.
- 2:18:11But I I think what I like about darsh is just you understands
- 2:18:16where the game is going. He didn't really give out too
- 2:18:19many long-term contracts outside of Alex Romanov.
- 2:18:21So he's Himself some flexibility, and he's trying to
- 2:18:24make the team younger. So, I think it's exciting times
- 2:18:26for the Islanders Romanoff. Really proved himself to be a
- 2:18:29first line defensive player last year when he stays healthy.
- 2:18:32We all know why, Montreal drafted him now.
- 2:18:35He was a first-round Talent. He he's got the ability.
- 2:18:38He's very young, still, he's 26 years old, so he's quite capable
- 2:18:41of being a star in this league and being one of the faces of
- 2:18:45the Islanders defense. He's gonna help out Schaefer
- 2:18:47when he comes to the league and he'll probably be up sometime
- 2:18:50this year, he's afraid, he's the number one pick.
- 2:18:52So I expect to see a young guy, the young kid come up and and
- 2:18:55develop in the NHL. The one thing I could say and
- 2:18:58there's a couple of guys that I want to see and I I love talking
- 2:19:01hockey with a guy that knows Islander hockey because I know
- 2:19:04Islander hockey because I speak about the Islanders, I know Java
- 2:19:08could care less and certain ways.
- 2:19:09I mean, you know, some Rangers that actually but Cole iserman
- 2:19:19is a guy I want to see. The Islanders drafted.
- 2:19:23I'm a couple of years ago because I think the the 19th or
- 2:19:2621st pick he's he was 17 when they drafted him.
- 2:19:29I think he's 19 gonna be 20 this year.
- 2:19:31He's a guy that we were talking about reaching a guy that is
- 2:19:35going to be called up sometime this year, coal is still playing
- 2:19:38college hockey. I I think coal has a chance
- 2:19:40after this year to go to the AHL and maybe even be called up
- 2:19:44sometime at the end of the season.
- 2:19:46Maybe early next season, your thoughts to him and and where do
- 2:19:52the Islanders, go with some of these old players?
- 2:19:53I don't want to see any of these old players anymore.
- 2:19:56I I want to see Casey's gone. I we saw that Manny Martin just
- 2:20:01retired. Thank God.
- 2:20:02He retired. I want to see him on the ice
- 2:20:04anymore. I caught a box finally came out
- 2:20:07and retired that God. I love you, but I want to see
- 2:20:11him on Ice anymore. And the Paso thing.
- 2:20:13I get rid of that contract. I can't stand watching.
- 2:20:17He's a Grace fake, he's a great face off guy.
- 2:20:19How many goals has this guy scored since?
- 2:20:22He's been an Islander. I mean seriously.
- 2:20:23It's absolutely pathetic. So, the coal eyes in thing and
- 2:20:26all the other things that I just went through, I just absolutely
- 2:20:29sickens me. Yeah, so on Yzerman, I really am
- 2:20:34expecting big things from him in college.
- 2:20:35He he showed it last year and what I noticed most with him,
- 2:20:40his goals came in big spots, it felt like every time his team
- 2:20:44was needed a goal, it was coal Yzerman, who's the one who's
- 2:20:47coming up with it, which I don't know.
- 2:20:49I again, I kind of like that from a young player rising to
- 2:20:52the occasion and, you know, playing in those tournaments at
- 2:20:55the Collegiate level too. Like that's I know it's not the
- 2:20:58NHL but that's high-end hockey right there and there's a lot of
- 2:21:01pressure for those kids. So um, I think like you said,
- 2:21:05maybe the end of this year depending on, when his season in
- 2:21:09college ends, he might get a look.
- 2:21:11But he is another one who's knocking on the door and I think
- 2:21:14he has you know top six upside with the goal scoring ability.
- 2:21:17He should be someone who plays on a first or second line, maybe
- 2:21:20a Winger for Matt bars. Al finally who could score some
- 2:21:22goals, that'd be nice to have. So I would absolutely love that
- 2:21:27on some of the older guys. I'm with you patio, I would be
- 2:21:30Be shocked. If he made it past the trade
- 2:21:33deadline this year, I think it's really going to depend on how
- 2:21:36fast Kyle Richie is developing and ready to make that call up.
- 2:21:39And you know, there's some other veterans that I'm sure they're
- 2:21:42looking to move to Taziki's one of them.
- 2:21:44I will say this. And if your island of fan in
- 2:21:47Ireland are fans listening to the show right now, you
- 2:21:49shouldn't really question what the Islanders have done over the
- 2:21:51last month. I think the island just slam
- 2:21:54dunked everything. They brought in this Russian
- 2:21:56kid, who everybody would, there was 18 going for him and I
- 2:22:00Speedy, you're better without shopping off.
- 2:22:02Oh, I'm bad with, you know, I always pronounce his name, like
- 2:22:05Shaman or whatever. Now shopping off is, is a guy
- 2:22:09that the Rangers were interested in Carolina was interested in
- 2:22:12him. Las Vegas was interested in him.
- 2:22:14I, I read how small he is, but speed is something that the
- 2:22:18knowledge is a preaching. This guy, a lot of people
- 2:22:20compare his skills to a Panera in a guy that can put the puck
- 2:22:24in the net. He has a tremendous ability of
- 2:22:26finding the net, your thoughts. Why he picked the Islanders was
- 2:22:30it? So Broken or the island is
- 2:22:33trying to make this the Russian Islanders, because there's
- 2:22:35somebody in Minnesota, there are stories coming out that is very
- 2:22:39intrigued with the Islanders organization, and what they've
- 2:22:42done so far this off season. It certainly feels that way with
- 2:22:46maximum shabanov this year maximum silicon last year comes
- 2:22:49over from the KHL. You have romanovs Sorokin for
- 2:22:53lemov to a lot of Russians. So hopefully that leads.
- 2:22:57You've been hinting at it to Krill capris off in the
- 2:22:59off-season. That'd be a lot of fun if he
- 2:23:01comes over from Minnesota. But yeah, shabanov is a really
- 2:23:04interesting one. He's small.
- 2:23:06So, some questions on if his game will translate to the NHL
- 2:23:11level, which is much more physical than it is over in the
- 2:23:13KHL, but there's no doubt that the goal scoring there.
- 2:23:17He's a playmaker too. He honestly gets some
- 2:23:20comparisons to croak capris of which would be great.
- 2:23:23Why not pair the two of them together but he's someone that I
- 2:23:27think maybe starts on the third line, but if plays well gets
- 2:23:31bumped up into the top six and hoping that he does play well,
- 2:23:34you know, I don't remember so because I want to throw myself
- 2:23:37under the bus because I always Jinx my teams and they never get
- 2:23:40the guy, but I think Caprice off, if he leaves him in a soda.
- 2:23:43I I don't see any other team where he wants to go and play
- 2:23:47besides the Islanders. I think the Islanders are really
- 2:23:49building it where there's if he has any interest and the story
- 2:23:54is what I've been reading. If Minnesota, doesn't get this
- 2:23:57deal done. Before before the preseason
- 2:24:01starts, he's not signing in the middle of the season, so he will
- 2:24:05go to free agency and they they believed that if he goes to free
- 2:24:09agency, he is not signing back. Even if they get the, even if
- 2:24:12they can give him the 8th year, he will not sign back with
- 2:24:15Minnesota and he will go to free agency and go to the highest
- 2:24:18bidder and the Islanders are opening their, their making it
- 2:24:21available where the Islanders are going to be able to offer 11
- 2:24:24or 12 million dollars, which could very much be the, the goal
- 2:24:27scorer, they needed the Superstar, they needed to add to
- 2:24:31their top top two lines where they could be success story.
- 2:24:35I'm going to tell you something. I want to ask you because, you
- 2:24:37know, a lot about hockey and I'm, I'm an Islander guy too,
- 2:24:40Matthew barzel, and I love Matt. I think he's The best skater.
- 2:24:44Second best skater right now in the NHL right behind Connor.
- 2:24:47McDavid, he is an unbelievable skater.
- 2:24:49I've never seen somebody gracious as fast and so good on
- 2:24:53the edges. He reminds me of Alexa call off
- 2:24:56me and my key, see, I went back and forth on the phone.
- 2:24:59You don't know, Mike. He was my old partner on my show
- 2:25:01and we used to argue all the time about certain players.
- 2:25:03He's a big hockey guy electrical off.
- 2:25:06If you look at his career, It's almost identical to Matthew
- 2:25:10barzel. It's now, Alexei had over 300,
- 2:25:13and some of my goals in Matthew barzal, doesn't have anything
- 2:25:15close to that, but the way they play their game speed, Puck
- 2:25:20handling skills, but could never find the net.
- 2:25:21It took him. I think he had one season with
- 2:25:2440 goals, the rest of the seasons, I think.
- 2:25:26Yeah, 130 Gold season. That was it mother Bothell
- 2:25:30hasn't even hit 30 goals yet. What are your thoughts to that
- 2:25:33comparison? Like sickle off to Matthew
- 2:25:34barzel? And I said that Danielle Smith
- 2:25:36and he says, wow, that's a good comparison.
- 2:25:38So, Yeah, I do. I do like that.
- 2:25:41That's one that I haven't heard before.
- 2:25:43So this is the first time that I'm hearing it, but I do think
- 2:25:45it makes sense, right? Because you look at him as more
- 2:25:48of a playmaker, exactly like what Matthew barzel is, you kind
- 2:25:51of delayed it out there. He hasn't hit 30 goals.
- 2:25:53That would be the the nice next step, but I think he needs to
- 2:25:57shoot more in order to get there.
- 2:25:58He's, he's always looking for the past first and that's fine.
- 2:26:01If he has someone who could pot 35, 40 goals on his line, they
- 2:26:05don't have someone like that to put with him.
- 2:26:06So it gets a little frustrating at times and with the turnovers
- 2:26:10too, like the pucks on a stick a lot.
- 2:26:11So he's kind of prone to those turnovers.
- 2:26:13He's such a driver of offense, though.
- 2:26:15I think he's, you know, such, you know, useful piece for this
- 2:26:18team, but I like that come. It's not one that I have heard
- 2:26:21of or thought of before, but I think it's a good one.
- 2:26:23Well, that you gotta invite us on the show.
- 2:26:26Yeah, we can, I can hook you up with some hockey information,
- 2:26:29especially Islanders because me and speedy.
- 2:26:31Speedy. Actually when it comes to
- 2:26:33statistics and hockey I mean his knowledge and hockey is probably
- 2:26:37just as good as any sport he plays Is in these fantasy
- 2:26:41leagues. He's just absolutely huge.
- 2:26:42So he's just so bad. Hold on.
- 2:26:45So he's bad to put in perspective, his partner, Mikey
- 2:26:50see that he mentioned we actually played.
- 2:26:52I didn't play last year but we actually played in a 20 team
- 2:26:54category league for hockey. So you really have to know depth
- 2:26:58player. So that way, I just, I don't
- 2:27:00play Fantasy besides football. I do play basketball too.
- 2:27:03I'm pretty good at that. But these guys, they talk so
- 2:27:06much. Crap.
- 2:27:06They go back and forth. Oh look, good.
- 2:27:08And then they have these these different rules, like it's a PPR
- 2:27:12League or its are you make sure that you cover rebounds and all
- 2:27:15this up? Nobody, nobody gives me the
- 2:27:17information until I draft and then after the draft, why don't
- 2:27:20you draft big guys? I mean, it doesn't make sense
- 2:27:23rebounding. And and you know blocks, just so
- 2:27:25very importantly why don't you say something before?
- 2:27:28I drafted you idiots. so, I Don't play in hockey league, but
- 2:27:32I know my hockey, I, I will say this, I'm terrible, I butcher
- 2:27:37hockey names more than any other sport, my agent, actually, when
- 2:27:42he listens to me, talk hockey, he tells me all the time, dude.
- 2:27:45He got a, you got to figure out these names, man.
- 2:27:48You gotta figure out how to pronounce these names if you
- 2:27:51want to talk hockey when it comes to you.
- 2:27:53If you want to work on the NHL network and I was like, dude,
- 2:27:55Brian, relax. Brian, if you listen to the
- 2:27:57show, that's why we have this segment sounded out.
- 2:28:00I just embarrassed the hell out of myself.
- 2:28:01And then, you know, you can laugh at it and we can go back
- 2:28:04to stupidity on this show but Matt, I, I follow you, man.
- 2:28:10I love what you do and we got to stay in touch.
- 2:28:13I don't know. Speedy has got your number, what
- 2:28:14state, let's stay in touch. I'm gonna be doing some live
- 2:28:18shows in the winter time speak. Java has a couple of nice
- 2:28:24restaurants out in Manhattan and New Jersey and we're gonna be
- 2:28:28doing some live shows over there and maybe some here on Long
- 2:28:31Island. Maybe one in this on a in on a
- 2:28:34beach and before the summer is over, we'd love for you to come
- 2:28:37down and you know talk a little hockey, talk a little football
- 2:28:40and have a little fun with us with some of the fans and
- 2:28:44promote your product. Because I love what you do.
- 2:28:46I'm not throwing anybody under the bus and I know you were you
- 2:28:49do a lot of shows jet shows? I think your your show is to me.
- 2:28:54I I respect what you say because I I'm not going to throw anybody
- 2:28:58on a. There's things that people say
- 2:28:59on their show that just like are you getting paid by the Jets?
- 2:29:02I honestly, that's what I think and I'm not gonna throw any, but
- 2:29:06I'm not gonna say it on the show but I you I think you're honest.
- 2:29:10I watch your Island to show. I support what you do with the
- 2:29:13Islanders and gracious, enough to come on our show but also
- 2:29:17support what we do. And I just want to let you know,
- 2:29:19we broke 130,000 downloads on Spotify and apple last month.
- 2:29:23So we're we're, yeah. It's we're doing a lot of great
- 2:29:28things on this show and Java. You know, since he's joined the
- 2:29:31show, it's been fun and choppa's learning a little bit about us
- 2:29:33as personalities and some of the crazy things that we do on this
- 2:29:39show as we always go, as we know or this one.
- 2:29:42My rear end is burning. Oh this blow my back out.
- 2:29:46I love Lisa Ann we do a lot of different things on this show
- 2:29:49and would like to mess up mess around with job as Joba is not
- 2:29:52an athlete. Anyways, we appreciate the time.
- 2:29:56You're a sensational person and I love what you're doing.
- 2:29:58Let's stay in touch and let's get together, man.
- 2:30:02Is it that all sounds great. Thanks again for having me guys,
- 2:30:04really appreciate it. And by the way, when we do the
- 2:30:06Islanders this summer, this winter, when the season starts,
- 2:30:09we do every Saturday. What do we do on Islander
- 2:30:13pregame pregame show every Saturday?
- 2:30:14Let's get you on the show. I think the fans would love.
- 2:30:18You can hang us out and we do like a 25 minute take before The
- 2:30:22Islander game starts and they go to the, The Islander pre-games
- 2:30:25over there and we go back and forth, and we argue island or
- 2:30:28hockey. I think you'd be great and I
- 2:30:30think it would be great for the fans to hear what you got to
- 2:30:32say. Yeah, that sounds awesome.
- 2:30:34I'm totally in for a little aisles pregame action.
- 2:30:37Hey, go on 103.9. You get your your program and
- 2:30:40all the stuff that you're doing right now on your on your
- 2:30:43product, which is Sensational by the way.
- 2:30:45So we really appreciate the time.
- 2:30:48Absolutely guys, thanks so much metal.
- 2:30:50Leary, I love Matt, its Speedy. When you told me Matt was gonna
- 2:30:54come on the Shelf, I am a fan of his because he's an Islander
- 2:30:57guy. He's a jet guy so me and him
- 2:31:01have something in common. The only thing that I would say
- 2:31:04about Matt that I give him a lot of credit for is he says a lot
- 2:31:07of good things about his teams. I just dropped the hammer on my
- 2:31:12teams so me and Matt would be pretty funny on a show.
- 2:31:16If we went back to Fort back and forth, bantering about our teams
- 2:31:18because he would be the bright side of things and I would be
- 2:31:22like, oh the world's gonna end. Yeah.
- 2:31:24What was last year, too? Which is very weird.
- 2:31:26What we did the Islanders pregame show.
- 2:31:28The first year in 2023. It was kind of like it was kind
- 2:31:31of a steady course throughout the season they started slow but
- 2:31:33they were like pretty steady after that last year like all
- 2:31:36our pregame shows like the first three months of the season.
- 2:31:38So it was like all like all the negative ends of the Islanders
- 2:31:41then they fight nearly start making the good trades after
- 2:31:43that. So like the youth movement like
- 2:31:45last three months or so he didn't get to us much, I love it
- 2:31:48and, you know, we got Nick in, we got to have Dan Rosie.
- 2:31:51He's better part of our show, he's gonna help us.
- 2:31:53But first, ladies and gentlemen, we got to go to Speedy six pack.
- 2:31:59Let's have a sensor. Hey, who wants to play drink the
- 2:32:03beer? It's time for the Speedy, six
- 2:32:05pack of the way doo doo doo doo. My pinky is bigger than yours.
- 2:32:11I would imagine it as niffin, right?
- 2:32:13I've never been one to measure, pinkies, but Daniel, why don't
- 2:32:16you say hello to Danny? We haven't seen Danny on the
- 2:32:19scope for a long time. You guys don't know, Nick, Nick,
- 2:32:21goody Danny, if you don't know, nick, nick, no Yankees played
- 2:32:25for the Guardians 6 year career in the major league and you know
- 2:32:28who job is Joba Chamberlain. Everybody, this is Dan riziki.
- 2:32:32He's been riding for me since I started 12 13 years ago.
- 2:32:35It's been a fan of the show. He's, you know, he's a fan of
- 2:32:39some of the teams that I root for and he just loves to drop
- 2:32:42the hammer, he worked for Sports Illustrated before.
- 2:32:45He was let go by Sports Illustrated for some of his
- 2:32:47takes on the Islanders, and Charles Wong.
- 2:32:50I love him. He actually introduced me to
- 2:32:53fish and that's why fishes with us right now.
- 2:32:56Is Damaris. Ezekiel told me that fish is Guy
- 2:33:00that is up and coming thinks that he's a good personality and
- 2:33:03he would help me out on the back end of the show.
- 2:33:04And here he is Dani razooqi. We have three three stats from
- 2:33:08each of the New York baseball teams.
- 2:33:09I'm gonna do them a Yankees one first, and you're a Mets fan
- 2:33:14where to get a lot of stuff with the New York Mets later,
- 2:33:16obviously, a big weekend for one of their best players and their
- 2:33:18franchise history, but I'm gonna start with the Yankees, I'll
- 2:33:20start with Marcus Stroman. A guy that you guys have been
- 2:33:23criticism criticizing of in the past.
- 2:33:25I had a very good start against the Braves go to Yen and Java
- 2:33:29specifically with you guys because this was one that I
- 2:33:31found interesting, 11, Splitters versus the Braves all with the
- 2:33:34left all against lefties and got a lot of swing and misses and
- 2:33:37only used 14% of the sinkers, which is usually usually does a
- 2:33:41lot more sinkers in his starts and had a lot more success doing
- 2:33:44it that way. So I had an approach thing that
- 2:33:45stroman's, got the change because they might need him to
- 2:33:47start more often. well, yeah, I couldn't get any worse so you
- 2:33:52got to make an adjustment and I mean, He throws so many
- 2:33:57pictures. It's hard to figure out what
- 2:34:00children's best and what's working.
- 2:34:02So yeah, I think if you're seeing obviously balls going
- 2:34:06down on a running, getting swings and misses and and I
- 2:34:09think it's a game plan but also a field type of thing.
- 2:34:12And sometimes we either have it or don't and sometimes you try
- 2:34:17to do too much. So I think if you see everything
- 2:34:19going arm side and have multiple weapons to be able to do that, I
- 2:34:24think it's more. So a game plan other than feel
- 2:34:28because obviously hasn't been very good since he came back.
- 2:34:31I agree with that if you throw the pitch that works at night.
- 2:34:34So if it's a splitter that's working and that's what you're
- 2:34:36throwing and you said it was down, you say through to the
- 2:34:40lefties. Yeah.
- 2:34:41Yeah, so he threw it the splitter.
- 2:34:43He threw it 11 times against lefties in that game and it was
- 2:34:47he got a lot more success rate of it.
- 2:34:49He said the previous analytics were saying like he's up a lot
- 2:34:52of the time. That's what he was struggling.
- 2:34:53So, I was more predictable and then he 14th century, only 14%
- 2:34:57singers, which he normally does around 30%.
- 2:35:01Yeah, so I mean they have a book out on them, right?
- 2:35:03So if he's throwing more, if he's.
- 2:35:05So the hitters for the hitters know, exactly.
- 2:35:08What's gonna come and what counts, are they have an idea,
- 2:35:11percentage was what's gonna come?
- 2:35:12And what counts? And so, I'm sure strowman's, a
- 2:35:16guy who would probably like to flip the book around and and
- 2:35:18instead of being heavy on the Sinker, he's mixing it up,
- 2:35:21mixing his pitches and Us splitter traditionally will go
- 2:35:25down in a way toward to a lefty. Some guys can can manipulate it
- 2:35:29to go to both sides of the plate and it's probably just like a
- 2:35:33little bit of a harder change up, so if he's having success
- 2:35:36with it, then That's what you throw.
- 2:35:38I'm looking for graphic there and I'm so horrified by this
- 2:35:41it's it's fantastic and awful at the same time.
- 2:35:43I just I've been staring at it. It's mesmerizing it's not on
- 2:35:48some level. Why?
- 2:35:50Because I was bored. And it's summer, you know, you
- 2:35:55go to the beach Speedy, you know, like to go get his hand
- 2:35:58know. We doesn't, I don't think I've
- 2:36:00ever seen. I go very, very rarely gotten.
- 2:36:02I don't think he's ever gone to the beach.
- 2:36:05Not around me in 10 years, I've never heard.
- 2:36:08Hey, let's go to the beach Harold.
- 2:36:10The only time he goes to the beach is when we, we celebrate
- 2:36:12his birthday and he's throwing up all over the place.
- 2:36:14That's about it. That's the only time I I seen
- 2:36:17Speedy actually enjoy the beach with me.
- 2:36:19Yeah, I've only gotten probably tan twice in my life, Dan.
- 2:36:24As you know, most of my good ideas happen either half in the
- 2:36:28bag or just because I was born. It's a half in the bag.
- 2:36:32I got you covered. You have to tell me I already
- 2:36:35know. Well Speedy's.
- 2:36:36Uh, you know, Speedy doesn't know how to work the bag, so if
- 2:36:39he has the bean bag and it works in Two Nuts, Two Nuts.
- 2:36:42Is better than one, right Speedy.
- 2:36:44I'm not gonna judge anything on nuts.
- 2:36:46This is a, by the way, this is a six pack.
- 2:36:48They come in a lot more than nuts coming.
- 2:36:49A lot more than by the way. I can't stand Marcus Stroman and
- 2:36:52the fact that Marcus Stroman is somebody we're talking about,
- 2:36:55makes me sick to my stomach, blockchain strowman, Patrick
- 2:36:58Medford, native long island native.
- 2:37:00I know his family, his brother is going to be a sensational
- 2:37:03draft, pick and Sensational player.
- 2:37:05Playing for Patchogue switch hitter.
- 2:37:06He he's at least a nice guy. His brother Marcus, every time
- 2:37:11I've been around him. I was at his draft party at
- 2:37:13doubling doubling deck. I'll never forget it.
- 2:37:17His father is such a nice dude. And he just doesn't know how to
- 2:37:20respect people everywhere. He's gone.
- 2:37:22He's been an ass. A lot of people that have been
- 2:37:25around Marcus Stroman, probably would tell you that he's not an
- 2:37:29easy person to be around so I Why we bringing up Marcus
- 2:37:32Stroman? What is numbers are?
- 2:37:33He's not even an important factor to the New York, Yankees
- 2:37:36moving forward in a second. So that's number five.
- 2:37:40All right, so we'll go on to so they had a comeback on Friday.
- 2:37:43Five Run come back, it was the Yankees first ninth inning
- 2:37:46comeback this season and only their 18th comeback went into
- 2:37:49the season which actually tied for six lowest in baseball with
- 2:37:52your team. Go to the Guardians only have 18
- 2:37:54as well. Are you concerned about that?
- 2:37:56Or is it flukey? What is your thoughts?
- 2:37:58All that night didn't come back, I don't really know.
- 2:38:01I mean, it's baseball like, yeah, I don't know how to
- 2:38:03explain. I don't know how to explain this
- 2:38:04one. Maybe the picture had a rough
- 2:38:06night 8 times in a row. Nine times in a row like, you're
- 2:38:09supposed to win the games that year that you're leading in the
- 2:38:12night inning. So, To be honest with you, I
- 2:38:16haven't watched New York, Yankees, baseball, and been
- 2:38:18watching my summer league baseball, Moses on.
- 2:38:21So I didn't catch that one but you're up when you're up,
- 2:38:25eighth, ninth inning, 789, inning, like those, your
- 2:38:27lockdown relievers was the game you're supposed to win and if
- 2:38:29the Yankees are very special up five.
- 2:38:32Yeah. If the Yankees come back and and
- 2:38:34when like that's huge and that that you have momentum going
- 2:38:38into the next game Yankees. Baseball.
- 2:38:43It really hasn't been good and anybody that thinks and
- 2:38:46Giancarlo Stanton is, is been pretty good.
- 2:38:49He's the only one hitting him and Aaron judge.
- 2:38:51Thank God, he's back. So it adds a little bit more
- 2:38:54boom to that lineup. This is a lineup that a lot of
- 2:38:57people thought, hey, adding Goldman, he was playing well in
- 2:39:00the beginning of the the first half.
- 2:39:02He's kind of falling falling falling off and Bellinger he's
- 2:39:05up. And he's down.
- 2:39:06He goes on a 13 game industry and then he can't hit a lick for
- 2:39:09like 10 games. The problem with the Yankees is
- 2:39:12consistency, if they want to win, they just lost against the
- 2:39:15Blue Jays tonight. Florida one, if they want to the
- 2:39:17win the division and they want to go on and try to make another
- 2:39:20world series. They got a police, they got to
- 2:39:22be better at the plate. Pitching is Gonna Come.
- 2:39:24I think they're going to add another picture and another arm
- 2:39:27at the trade deadline. They need to add two bats at
- 2:39:31least if they expect to make another run to the World Series.
- 2:39:34I, this lineup is not good enough.
- 2:39:36She's not looking at, Mitch Keller right now.
- 2:39:38From Pirates. I don't know if you if you saw
- 2:39:40that but colors like hot. Like 13 like starts in a row
- 2:39:45where he's got to get two and a half era and like a one whip,
- 2:39:48which is not really what his numbers were in his career.
- 2:39:51He had a couple of hot streaks earlier in his career but he's
- 2:39:54he's like a guy that will kind of middles off similar to like
- 2:39:57strowman's numbers in that game that you were talking about
- 2:39:59before where, you know, a couple of strikeouts, limited the hits
- 2:40:03to less than one per inning. He's gonna get one of those
- 2:40:06every once in a while, the Yankees need to get it off and
- 2:40:09the Yankees need to get rid of all pay.
- 2:40:11I don't know what's going on with this organization.
- 2:40:12Volpe is been horrible defensively.
- 2:40:15He had another era tonight. I mean, he's making too many
- 2:40:18mistakes, and he's not hitting enough.
- 2:40:20If you can't, your strength is your defense and you, you want
- 2:40:24to go glove last year and you were the best shortstop in the
- 2:40:27American League. And you, you don't produce this
- 2:40:30year, the Yankees need to either send them down or trade him, but
- 2:40:33he's not worth anything right now, so you might as well send
- 2:40:36him down. He's says, he's all he's a
- 2:40:39Savage. The rest of them, it's horrible,
- 2:40:41but he didn't, he say Elite. he's Elite and a Savage Elite,
- 2:40:45you know, it's I let me ask Donny because I've said this
- 2:40:49Danny Good teams. Don't have this problem.
- 2:40:52Do they? Good teams might have good coach
- 2:40:55teams, have a lot less problems. It's almost like coaching
- 2:40:58matters on some level. If a team is coach 12, they know
- 2:41:01what to do with certain moments and what teams not coach looks
- 2:41:04like it's the first time they're playing a game which is really
- 2:41:07scary. I mean, like, we got two Pros
- 2:41:09but out here who know that they've had different coaches
- 2:41:12different managers. And I bet you, they can tell you
- 2:41:15guys that could resem that can make changes effectively and
- 2:41:18then other guys who were there, because they were there.
- 2:41:21Yeah, thank you so much. Good one.
- 2:41:23Wait a second. So, so now we have another guy
- 2:41:26that is going to point their fingers at Aaron Boone.
- 2:41:29This is someone someone has to do it at this point.
- 2:41:32It's constant. Its, they play Bad based on and
- 2:41:37lose games, they shouldn't play baseball.
- 2:41:39Baseball is a sport and, and Jabba Nick know this more than
- 2:41:44anything you go on the mountain, you pitch your game, it has
- 2:41:47nothing to do with the manager, you go to the plate, is the
- 2:41:50manager gonna hit for, you know, Joe Torre.
- 2:41:52He had a load of great talent around him for years.
- 2:41:55Those lineups, the Kora players you're going to tell me Joe,
- 2:41:59Torrey was a great manager. He was the last person that
- 2:42:02George Steinberg wanted to bring in.
- 2:42:03He didn't even want him there and he talked about the guy
- 2:42:07before him buck who always had the great fundamental defense
- 2:42:10and the great fundamental bass running and the great
- 2:42:13fundamentals that carried over to that Tori team, which might
- 2:42:17not have been Tori's strength and then they had that great
- 2:42:19run, it happened with buck everywhere, right?
- 2:42:21Where the, after he left, because people couldn't take
- 2:42:23Buck after a while that, but they had those intangibles that
- 2:42:27made them good teams. I don't see that with the bun
- 2:42:30teams. The bun teams, make bad bass,
- 2:42:32running mistakes. I mean, we can show the video of
- 2:42:34viva's getting gunned down by Acuna, where he doesn't even
- 2:42:37slide in a game that they lost because they made it.
- 2:42:41He made the out of Third Base. So, oh.
- 2:42:43So now we're gonna try to compare a guy like Aaron Boone.
- 2:42:47Who's never managed anywhere else, remember, he came, he was
- 2:42:50a sport. He was on, ESPN working for
- 2:42:53baseball night and this guy got a chance.
- 2:42:56He's father was a background as a GM.
- 2:42:58Its brother has worked, you know, for different
- 2:43:01organizations and was a good baseball player.
- 2:43:03So we're gonna blame our bun where he has one of the best
- 2:43:06winning percentage and Yankees history, and we're gonna sit
- 2:43:09here and say, oh, our boot doesn't do this, right?
- 2:43:11He doesn't do that. Right.
- 2:43:12There are a lot of managers that don't don't do things, right?
- 2:43:15There's one of them over there with the Dodgers and he's won
- 2:43:19and he's won chairs. Aaron Boone is is not, he's the
- 2:43:24manager, he's not necessarily the coach, the coach of the
- 2:43:26analytical team. In New York who makes.
- 2:43:28Yes, they make. All the decisions.
- 2:43:30They pull the strings there, but he is.
- 2:43:33I mean, I'm sure he makes some game time decisions, but for the
- 2:43:36most part, he's getting fed all the analytics from their
- 2:43:39analytical department and it all gets streamlined, write to him.
- 2:43:42Either has a game, he has a game playing going into the game and
- 2:43:45I'm sure that that game plan will deviate throughout as
- 2:43:49different scenarios happen throughout the game.
- 2:43:52And I know that he's getting fed information, you know, before he
- 2:43:57makes a decision on who to bring in and whatnot, they have
- 2:44:00numbers, they have everything in the book that you can possibly
- 2:44:03go through. And so like, yeah, he's gonna
- 2:44:05get beat up in the media because that's his job, he's the
- 2:44:07manager. So, he gets beat up in the
- 2:44:09media, but at the end of the day, like, If you were to peel
- 2:44:12back, you know the layers, if you will.
- 2:44:15The people who get be getting beat up in the media or probably
- 2:44:19the analytical department on who they signed, and who they're
- 2:44:22putting in certain situations, not can Aaron Boone play?
- 2:44:26Making an impact, of course he can set the temperature of the
- 2:44:30locker room. You know he can go around and
- 2:44:32give guys confidence and just let him know like Tito did that
- 2:44:38for me and I wanted there's something about it that you want
- 2:44:41to play harder for that guy. And by the way, by the way, I'm
- 2:44:44sorry Josh is saying that he thinks he's a good manager.
- 2:44:47I'm sorry to cut you off. Good guy.
- 2:44:48Yeah. No, I mean, I I I mean, he went,
- 2:44:51he was in the World Series last year and he's got one of the
- 2:44:54best teams in baseball now. So like How can we sit here and
- 2:44:58say he's a good or bad manager? I mean he's he's hot, he has a
- 2:45:01winning record. I have a question for Nick and
- 2:45:04for Joba. Joba.
- 2:45:07So my question is this, the Yankees pitching staff?
- 2:45:14Right? How many of those pictures?
- 2:45:15I mean, just to take on the Yankees and, and their manager,
- 2:45:19how many pitchers have come to the Yankees organization that
- 2:45:23are currently a team that are worth Their weight, right?
- 2:45:26Like look at the Yankees. Starting to have right?
- 2:45:28It's free with Rhode Island. From where?
- 2:45:33Was San Francisco. It's like, what are the Yankees
- 2:45:43doing with their minor leagues at that?
- 2:45:45No one is coming through to be effective, it would it be bad?
- 2:45:48Coaching would be would that's that's my point, Dan.
- 2:45:51Like I just see a lot of mediocrity Dan and everyone
- 2:45:56seems to want to defend Boone. I haven't forgiven him for
- 2:45:59putting Nestor Cortes into face, Freddie Freeman, and that's why
- 2:46:03one of the world, and that's why you're not a GM.
- 2:46:05And that's why you're not a coach buddy, they lost the game
- 2:46:07that way and they went to Nestor who was cold for month.
- 2:46:12He has a high school come up and can handle the pressure's in New
- 2:46:16York Louise Hill's, one of them who can do it, so guys can do
- 2:46:19it. So guys, can't a lot of people,
- 2:46:20I think when people come up to the Yankees system and they get
- 2:46:25traded away and they have success, they can find, they can
- 2:46:28they, they find who they are. As a major league baseball
- 2:46:31player than they can come back to New York as a more mature
- 2:46:33veteran, if you will. And then The able to handle the
- 2:46:37New York media and everything outside of baseball.
- 2:46:40I mean, they're pretty good. They do produce good.
- 2:46:43I mean, there's two guys in the Boston Red Sox.
- 2:46:45Opener, every night every day, pictures.
- 2:46:48I mean, Whitlock and wiser are both homegrown Yankees that are
- 2:46:52putting together, decent. Seasons are hot, put together
- 2:46:56decent Seasons so it's sometimes you have to get away from New
- 2:47:00York and then you'll end up coming back if it if it's in
- 2:47:04your cards, but they coaching it, there isn't bad.
- 2:47:07I mean, they, there's a reason why a lot of young players get
- 2:47:10poached from the Yankees minor league system.
- 2:47:12Not only players but coaches as well because they produce, same
- 2:47:16with Cleveland, same with LA, they produce like if you look at
- 2:47:20the top five or ten, whatever Cleveland LA and the Dodgers at
- 2:47:24the top, three for minor league and producing pitching, our last
- 2:47:28one for the Four Speedy. Yeah, last time for the Yankees
- 2:47:32and Aaron judge ties, Alex Rodriguez, 351 home runs as a
- 2:47:36Yankee and he did it in 4717, less games and Abraham played
- 2:47:401505 games as a Yankee and Aaron judge 1000 902, what are your
- 2:47:45thoughts up? More historic history for Aaron
- 2:47:47Schatz. Aaron judges, Aaron judges, one
- 2:47:50of the most dominant players we've seen with the New York
- 2:47:53Yankees since Mickey, Mantle, since Don Mattingly when he won
- 2:47:58on a five-year stents since Derek Jeter.
- 2:48:01When he went on that stent of, you know, that hitting spree and
- 2:48:04Alex Rodriguez, doing what he did when he came to the New York
- 2:48:07Yankees. When we think of star players,
- 2:48:10star players that don't go out there, throw his team, under the
- 2:48:13bus, I'll say it over and over and over again.
- 2:48:15What makes Aaron judge? So special is when he goes out
- 2:48:18there after the game win or lose.
- 2:48:20He doesn't, he doesn't rep. What he does.
- 2:48:22He doesn't Pat himself on the back.
- 2:48:24Oh, I hit three home runs in a game.
- 2:48:25I was four. I was four for five.
- 2:48:27No, he says, listen if we when we win it's more important to
- 2:48:31win than putting up the numbers that I am doing.
- 2:48:33If I'm not winning those numbers mean nothing that is a star
- 2:48:38player. Not Mike Trout.
- 2:48:39People forget what my trout said over the years when he was a
- 2:48:42dominant force over there with the angels, the Angels sucked
- 2:48:45when my trout was one of the best players in the world and
- 2:48:48what in My child say every time after the game, when people
- 2:48:50didn't even know who Mike, Trout was my child said, listen I
- 2:48:54could put up all the numbers you want.
- 2:48:55I could not be a five tool player if we're not winning.
- 2:48:58Why does it even matter? And it's it's true.
- 2:49:01They never had any pitching to win either.
- 2:49:03So but it's It's crazy to think. And okay this this will go back
- 2:49:10to kind of what you said fish too and and Dan, he's well.
- 2:49:15Okay. So is he gonna play long enough
- 2:49:18to like break everything? Because he got a late start,
- 2:49:21because they did wait later as a first round.
- 2:49:24Draft. Pick got a Fresno State, so he
- 2:49:26had the college pedigree. And he didn't make his debut
- 2:49:30until he was 24. So is and and we've talked about
- 2:49:35this before, it's kind of its kind of Catch 22, right?
- 2:49:38It's like, do we bring a spark right now?
- 2:49:42and you know, ruin our wrist that chance Or do we do we kind
- 2:49:48of let him be successful? And we've seen what that's
- 2:49:51turned into, obviously. It's a lot of hard work and
- 2:49:54dedication and understanding but I get I understand both sides of
- 2:49:59it. It, but he yeah, he's gonna go
- 2:50:01down as one of the best Yankees ever.
- 2:50:04It'll be determined to see if he goes.
- 2:50:07I mean, he's gotta, he's gonna hit 400.
- 2:50:09Is he going to hit 100? Is the question.
- 2:50:12So for me it's is he going to win?
- 2:50:15You know, if he's gonna compare to the best Yankee because of
- 2:50:18the tradition of the team, you have to win a championship to
- 2:50:21consider one of the best Yankees in this story franchise right
- 2:50:24there. Says it in our.
- 2:50:25And in the opening, before we get going, are we going to have
- 2:50:29this conversation and be like? Well, he didn't win.
- 2:50:33But he's got 600 homers. Four MVPs whatever.
- 2:50:38I'm just throwing numbers out. But are we gonna say that about
- 2:50:41him if they don't make it? Like they have to make some type
- 2:50:45of change? I don't know if that's bun, I
- 2:50:48don't know if it's cash. I don't know.
- 2:50:50Sell the team. I'm just throwing weird stuff
- 2:50:53out and you can't keep getting there without winning and just
- 2:50:58like Alex Rodriguez, until Alex Rodriguez went on that run in
- 2:51:012009, nobody thought he was a winner now, I know everybody
- 2:51:04hates Alex Rodriguez, but Alex Rodriguez is gonna go down as
- 2:51:08one of the top four players of all time steroids are not go.
- 2:51:11Look at his numbers. That numbers don't lie.
- 2:51:13Was he a good person? No.
- 2:51:14Was he a sensational? You know, person off the field.
- 2:51:19I heard that he has been good and by the way, he owns the
- 2:51:22Timberwolves. Now, he's a good businessman.
- 2:51:23I I do believe Alex Rodriguez, if he didn't win a championship
- 2:51:27in 2009. Nobody cares about all his
- 2:51:30accolades. He want, he helped the Yankees
- 2:51:32win in 2009. So Aaron judge has to win a
- 2:51:35championship to be considered one of the greatest Yankees of
- 2:51:37all time. If he wins one which I believe
- 2:51:39he will, the Yankees are going to win at least one before he's
- 2:51:42done. So you say he won't go down if
- 2:51:45it's one of the greatest showman because again, when we think
- 2:51:50about Out some of the great Yankees of our time.
- 2:51:52Joe DiMaggio, he won Mickey Mantle, he won Babe Ruth when
- 2:51:58they won World Series, those guys doesn't matter, like the
- 2:52:00one The one like 96 teams now. Come on, man.
- 2:52:04So why you just think everything before the Mets was like, fake?
- 2:52:08Baseball like fake news baseball in 62.
- 2:52:12All right? Come on, man.
- 2:52:15All right, he's gonna go down one of the greatest Yanks.
- 2:52:18I I don't you know one of the best.
- 2:52:23I think the question is does he go down in Yankees history?
- 2:52:26Like similar to the guys like Mickey Mantle if he does if he
- 2:52:29is he's gonna have to win championships.
- 2:52:31If he's the best player, he's the best championships ship, he
- 2:52:37compared to those ones. What if he had 600 home runs?
- 2:52:40Yes, if he's a Hall of Famer at this point, 100%, he's all the
- 2:52:44family now. So just because of the pace,
- 2:52:46he's on like two more years and he's at 400 something home runs
- 2:52:51it's kind of hard to argue with what he's doing.
- 2:52:54He's gonna win, he's gonna win another NBA last two years.
- 2:52:57This would be three nvps in the last four years.
- 2:53:00I mean, how many players? How many players have done that?
- 2:53:04I mean Mike Trout, he's the most in the regular season since I
- 2:53:11can't remember. And we see what he did, for one
- 2:53:14sort of with the Yankees vers wants to do with the Mets.
- 2:53:17It's two different hitters All right.
- 2:53:21Speedy. Move on to those Mets with
- 2:53:23number three. All right.
- 2:53:24So could I send the return tonight?
- 2:53:26Unfortunately had a rough start following four runs in just
- 2:53:28three Innings, but before that, here's a stat, that's
- 2:53:31interesting. So top 10 in Barrel rate against
- 2:53:33could I send a 6.4% which up to the same as two weeks?
- 2:53:37Google has been the best picture in baseball, pretty much all
- 2:53:39year. So second half expectations for
- 2:53:41saying coming off, injury was kind of a month Dan, what were
- 2:53:45your thoughts to what you saw tonight?
- 2:53:45And then you guys all the pictures and all come in right
- 2:53:49after that, we'll start with you.
- 2:53:52I get deleted. Awesome.
- 2:53:53Oh yeah. It's the first up that that goes
- 2:53:56Fork is for real and I don't get it because to me that's a split
- 2:54:00finger fastball I'm old right? So I still Mike's got the 80s,
- 2:54:03you know, and I saw Bruce Cedar in the 80s it's saying that
- 2:54:07image and for some reason, his looks more deceiving and we've
- 2:54:12got two pictures here. That goes to speak to this way
- 2:54:14better than I can. But like I don't get what makes
- 2:54:17a pitch devastating for one guy and makes it pedestrian for the
- 2:54:21next guys. So maybe she does the pros
- 2:54:24because like they are both majorly pictures and they will
- 2:54:27tell you that guys in a bullpen or on their staff, they play
- 2:54:30with through the same, exact goddamn bitch and it broke six,
- 2:54:33six inches more or it's fun at the end and tells off inside,
- 2:54:37like what makes a pitcher be able to take a picture?
- 2:54:40Everyone's throwing for 100 years and just make it their
- 2:54:42own. I mean, you could you could say
- 2:54:44that about every pitch really like why does why does
- 2:54:47basketball run and it's manipulating the baseball how
- 2:54:51you you know, have a I guess pressure on index finger pinky,
- 2:54:58like there's so many ways to do it.
- 2:55:00Some guys arm slots play a part of it some guys just naturally
- 2:55:06that's what it does. Use Devin Williams example he
- 2:55:11over pronates. Instead of just a regular
- 2:55:14Change-Up like he does it on purpose because his basically is
- 2:55:18internal rotation as is more than normal.
- 2:55:21So I think there's a lot of things that play a part into it.
- 2:55:24Yeah, it's like hey yeah we offer changeups but mine.
- 2:55:27Suction years is really good. We hold it the same exact way.
- 2:55:30I mean that's just there's no Rhyme or Reason.
- 2:55:32Oh, you're spin rates. Not this your horizontal
- 2:55:35different like they're gonna tell you that but honestly it's
- 2:55:39like I I tried every change in the world and they all sucked.
- 2:55:44So I yeah, I was terrible but that's like the that's like
- 2:55:49Mariano Rivera throwing the cutter and made it his, you
- 2:55:52know, he threw one pitch. I mean, he threw forcing, you
- 2:55:56know, every now and that's sporadically, but like it was a
- 2:55:57cutter. He made his what made his
- 2:55:59cutter. So good.
- 2:56:00I think it was his control and being able to locate it whenever
- 2:56:03wherever he wanted to and whatever count he wanted to as
- 2:56:06well. And then be able to buzz a force
- 2:56:08him in there, straight pitch there and then you have the
- 2:56:11cutter that goes there. So like setting up pitches a lot
- 2:56:15of it could be deceptive. A lot of it could be what job is
- 2:56:18said now. They now they have pitched
- 2:56:20design Labs, where you can get the exact horizontal, the exact
- 2:56:24vertical break that you want spend.
- 2:56:29You, you can increase spin all the sticky stuff, you know, well
- 2:56:34that that will increase spend. Now that they're checking for
- 2:56:37that. I think spend rates probably
- 2:56:38more like a fingerprint, you know.
- 2:56:40It's it's related to who you are as a pitcher.
- 2:56:45I think the pressure that you put on the back of the ball and
- 2:56:48on the seams as you come through.
- 2:56:51I'm sure there are ways to create more spin, but a lot of
- 2:56:56that has to do with accepting this, you're delivery your
- 2:56:59release point. If you look at Miserables, the
- 2:57:04guy for the Missouri, that's what he is.
- 2:57:07When he throws a fastball 100 to 102.
- 2:57:10So just Paul schemes like why don't those guys obviously it's
- 2:57:13102 but he has the most extension in the league by far
- 2:57:17and it looks like it's just jumping on guys and it looks
- 2:57:20like it's alright and guys will call they come back and they're
- 2:57:22like, you know, he threw a 98 mile an hour slider How, you
- 2:57:27know, it doesn't it just like it's just, it's crazy work.
- 2:57:30What's going on? Makes sense?
- 2:57:32Some of it just doesn't like it's gotten.
- 2:57:34Let me try to make some sense of it for you guys.
- 2:57:37Here's a baseball Savant. If you guys aren't on this, this
- 2:57:41has been pretty new the last couple years you could take a
- 2:57:44look. These are senga anything in red
- 2:57:46is good, blue is generally bad. It's easy way to look at it
- 2:57:50down. The middle is average.
- 2:57:51So saying that with extension that's like how the ball gets
- 2:57:54on. How you?
- 2:57:54I don't know. You guys explain to me, but the
- 2:57:56ball gets on top like you so Miser ski.
- 2:57:58So his is kind of average but he's been really kind of
- 2:58:01crushing it. He doesn't have the best
- 2:58:03philosophy, he's throwing almost 94, he walks too many guys, but
- 2:58:06everything else is well above average, he might be, if he gets
- 2:58:11to stay healthy, he's great. And this is the one that you can
- 2:58:13see the best red one. There that 98 that's off speed
- 2:58:16run value. I'm assuming that's about the
- 2:58:19movement of the ghost fork and just how on hidden bowl that
- 2:58:22pitches. So you can kind of see it,
- 2:58:24analytically these days. All right, moving on Speedy.
- 2:58:28Number two, moving on to Francisco Alvarez.
- 2:58:31Finally got called back up, we talked about him getting demoted
- 2:58:33about a month ago and he's back at 12 home, run to 975 Ops in
- 2:58:37the minor leaks, he had 267 points higher than his MLB
- 2:58:40career and then 323 higher than this season, which was in the
- 2:58:43600s. So big, a turnaround for Alvarez
- 2:58:46job actually said when he went down that he's going to be
- 2:58:50called up. There's no way they're keeping
- 2:58:52him down for the rest of the season.
- 2:58:53He's a, he's a big part of their offense, he was a big part of
- 2:58:56their offense last year. This guy's got a strong bad.
- 2:59:00He's got a big bad and the Mets are gonna need him.
- 2:59:02If they want to make a run to the playoffs and make a run
- 2:59:05throughout the playoffs, he he was very good in the playoffs
- 2:59:08for the New York Mets especially against certain teams.
- 2:59:10I remember if who was it was Milwaukee, it was a Phillies in
- 2:59:14Milwaukee was a big part of their offense and Philip
- 2:59:17Philadelphia to the Mexican, eat his bad.
- 2:59:20He's a great defensive player. That's what he had problems with
- 2:59:22and why they sent him down. He was making mistakes throwing
- 2:59:25the ball. I think he's got better.
- 2:59:27And I expect him to make a speedy, a speedy, a present
- 2:59:33presents for the New York Mets now in the second half of the
- 2:59:36season. So I think that's good news for
- 2:59:37the New York Mets that he was hot and Triple-A.
- 2:59:39We talked about that too. It's like do you send them now
- 2:59:42or I don't remember the catcher that we was a common Arrow,
- 2:59:46whoever we sent there. They just basically released him
- 2:59:49an Odom, 24 million and You're talking about.
- 2:59:53Was literally. it can help this kid because the pressures often
- 2:59:58and he's able to just go out and work on those things and I think
- 3:00:02part of it, he was taking What he was doing in the field too,
- 3:00:05is that bats? And now you got to work on
- 3:00:08everything. It's good for him for not, you
- 3:00:10know putting his dauber in the dirt and feeling bad for
- 3:00:13himself. Going back to AAA.
- 3:00:15And being able to you know, just be like look yourself in the
- 3:00:18mirror and it's like I'm gonna get back there.
- 3:00:20You know these are some things I need to work on and it's not
- 3:00:22like I'm still not playing baseball getting paid so it was
- 3:00:25I'm proud of him for doing it because it's not easy when you
- 3:00:29when you get the big leaves and get sent down it.
- 3:00:31You know it kicks you a little bit.
- 3:00:32I like I like the copper and a dirt.
- 3:00:34That was pretty funny. I didn't This great play
- 3:00:41Alvarez. Did I believe his other his last
- 3:00:44season? He takes himself, just an
- 3:00:46unbelievable. Double play steps on the bass,
- 3:00:48on a broken bat guns at the first.
- 3:00:50This guy has all sorts of Talent on both sides of the ball.
- 3:00:54He actually was involved in two of the runs in the rally in the
- 3:00:59seventh and eighth inning tonight for the Mets and they're
- 3:01:01in their comeback, win against the Angels.
- 3:01:03So fish wearing dividends for the Mets with Alvarez.
- 3:01:07Speedy number one, rounded out with Mets.
- 3:01:11Legend. Now Ring of Honor, remember
- 3:01:13David Wright? He got his number retired, the
- 3:01:1510th Mets, have his number retired, first time.
- 3:01:17It was retired for a Mets player that was there for his whole
- 3:01:20career and some stats on him. 87 of his 248, home runs are
- 3:01:23actually go ahead home runs and he is 8 walk, all farm runs
- 3:01:27which is the most in New York Mets history, right?
- 3:01:29One of the best defensive third baseman's golf you were talking
- 3:01:31about me earlier about a 4 8. 3, 4 9, Three.
- 3:01:47So great player, wasn't he? The captain dude.
- 3:01:51David Wright number five, he's made all these great defensive
- 3:01:54plays. I remember there was one like he
- 3:01:56was kind of running backwards and like listening to the bare
- 3:01:59hair and five. Yeah, it's just this legendary.
- 3:02:02I've got my own feelings to David write.
- 3:02:04First of all, every time I met David Wright, he's an ass.
- 3:02:06That's that's of course you don't like the most likable
- 3:02:09player in the history. He was an ass.
- 3:02:11I met him three times, incredible Captain America as he
- 3:02:14came out and he actually him in John Caldwell standing at
- 3:02:18helmet. You know, to put in front of his
- 3:02:20face when he died. They're the ones that created
- 3:02:23those new helmets that a lot of these baseball players are
- 3:02:25wearing because it was right. And yeah.
- 3:02:28And John Carlos stands so David Wright.
- 3:02:30Well, he had like the big head helmets too, didn't David?
- 3:02:32Write that like? Yes, that's what he's Aaron's
- 3:02:37talking about. In 2012.
- 3:02:38He started using that for a little while.
- 3:02:40Then he went back to the normal one I go.
- 3:02:42I was never a big David Wright fan.
- 3:02:45I remember obviously I, if I'm not mistaken, he came, he played
- 3:02:49in Virginia. Yes, actually, with Ryan.
- 3:02:53Zimmerman and Ryan's brother. Yeah, yeah.
- 3:02:55And, oh, God, God damn what you say?
- 3:02:59I'm sorry. I just like, like, is it
- 3:03:02amazing? How like, in some areas they
- 3:03:04produce Major Leaguers and then in some areas they don't.
- 3:03:07Like I would just say before like to stroll in.
- 3:03:10Right? There's gonna be markets, his
- 3:03:12younger brother. Stephen Matt's all came from
- 3:03:14like, long one time. Yeah, right.
- 3:03:17Yeah. But no one else's big ass place.
- 3:03:18It's 3 million people here. It's it's big but like one town,
- 3:03:21amongst 3 million produced, three major league players,
- 3:03:23right? David writes have like oh what's
- 3:03:27the name Lindor? With Winker right?
- 3:03:30And like it's like some High School from my home town.
- 3:03:35She's like, oh, we produced 50 major league players, my high
- 3:03:37school. We produce one guy who sucked
- 3:03:40for Toronto like for fancy like Oh shoot, I should know that
- 3:03:46because, no, I should because he sucked, but he also never came
- 3:03:52back to work with the team. Like, you think you were, it was
- 3:03:55your home town, like, well, I almost made it for a year.
- 3:03:58Like, let me go back and show you guys how to do not know that
- 3:04:01shit. So, um, it's too much, there's
- 3:04:04too much of a Love Fest for David Wright, okay?
- 3:04:06I, I, to me, you were one of the best, dude, him and Jose Reyes
- 3:04:11on the left side of the infield. Like I remember playing and all
- 3:04:13the show same as an impairment. This same Jose, right?
- 3:04:17Yes. At the final game of the season
- 3:04:19for him to win it, bad in town, he decided to pull himself out.
- 3:04:22Yeah, great. Good job, Jose.
- 3:04:23We love you buddy. That's why he don't know.
- 3:04:28You know what I, you know what I think about certain players for
- 3:04:34the New York Mets, organization and absolute joke, you guys are
- 3:04:38gonna see here and tell me about David Wright, how great of a
- 3:04:41player he was, yeah. When he actually played on the
- 3:04:43field, he was a great. I've told player for like, what
- 3:04:46four years David Wright to me could have been great but he
- 3:04:51bitched and moaned and then the one run that he had in the World
- 3:04:54Baseball Classic as they gave him as they call him the one and
- 3:04:58only Captain America That season.
- 3:05:00He got hit in the head and he was never the same player.
- 3:05:02Congratulations to a great career of that's what I think
- 3:05:07about David Wright. I think Met fans should stop
- 3:05:09kissing his ass. I think he saw overrated.
- 3:05:12Let's talk about guys like Carlos Beltran when the Mets
- 3:05:15brought him to the organization, what he did for the New York
- 3:05:17Mets? How about how about that, guys?
- 3:05:20Okay. Yeah, I don't know.
- 3:05:27Yeah, you're gonna tell me what was it, right?
- 3:05:30The best player on that team. That went to the World Series
- 3:05:33though? No, I don't think so.
- 3:05:35He got hurt beginning of the Season, he was Daniel Murphy.
- 3:05:38Daniel Murphy made that run. That's why the best player on
- 3:05:42this is not their, Daniel Murphy was the best.
- 3:05:44Defensive player in the playoffs.
- 3:05:46When they went to the World Series.
- 3:05:47Go look at it. You could go right with a gold
- 3:05:50glove defensive player good for him, good for him.
- 3:05:53Arrow makes me a better player, now he wasn't a better player.
- 3:05:56David Ryan was a player and almost one of the most overrated
- 3:06:01mats of all times. So like he's just under the Hall
- 3:06:04of Fame 50 to 70 War, we always talk about Speedy stop at 49
- 3:06:09point something because of all the injuries, he's bringing up
- 3:06:12these really close to a halt analytics.
- 3:06:14That means crap. I'm so tired of it.
- 3:06:17Stop with the warcraft. He was an elite player for you,
- 3:06:20good. He's an old pretty good.
- 3:06:22Is that what it is? Hi, he's gonna have the same
- 3:06:24issues as Mattingly. He's probably the best
- 3:06:30comparison to be honest. You an answer who's better?
- 3:06:33David Rider got Madeline. I'm taking Tom and Lee baseball.
- 3:06:36Let's say like the war is I'll stop towards stop with your war
- 3:06:42with your your what should be high.
- 3:06:44Because he Was a great defensive play.
- 3:06:45All right, Don what this this segment Speedy six pack of the
- 3:06:48and my New York baseball I'll tell you what I'll do today,
- 3:06:55David right? If I ever see him, I'll take my
- 3:06:57shoe right here. You see this?
- 3:06:58Nice little flat and shove it where the sun doesn't dress.
- 3:07:01That's right. I can't stand David Wright.
- 3:07:04So, overrated overrated player of all time for the New York
- 3:07:09Mets. All right, let's go into it.
- 3:07:11King of the Hill and here's the King of the Hill.
- 3:07:15This Bobby is the Beltline you never ever.
- 3:07:18Hit below that. Not that kind of King of the
- 3:07:21Hill. You dumb.
- 3:07:22This is King of the Hill Glory. Oh I need Brittany.
- 3:07:28Also. And welcome back to King of the
- 3:07:36Hill where we will take on the King after all the peasants
- 3:07:41fighting out in round one, followed by the joust in round
- 3:07:45two for a chance to take on the king, king Arrow has kept his
- 3:07:49crown every week, except for one, will he keep it this week?
- 3:07:53It looks like we got good job of Dan, radzi key, and Speedy Petey
- 3:07:59playing tonight on King of the Hill.
- 3:08:02Kenny radical, what? Let's get it straight here.
- 3:08:05All right, here we go. All right, here we are to start
- 3:08:09it off. First one, best receiving
- 3:08:11running backs of all time so they have to be known for their
- 3:08:17hands out of the backfield the way it works.
- 3:08:20We'll go in order and then snake back like a fantasy draft.
- 3:08:25So we'll set up the camera right here.
- 3:08:27Dan's your first time playing. We'll let you go first on this
- 3:08:31one. We'll put the king up top in his
- 3:08:33slot for king of the hill, but he said and tell us why.
- 3:08:42Because I watched him with the Jets when he was quote, unquote
- 3:08:45Washington, and he was excellent, and the Jets always
- 3:08:49sucks. So, if you get with the Jets, he
- 3:08:50must All right, Speedy. All right.
- 3:08:57I'll go with another one. That was a great, a little
- 3:08:59before him, but I was on Marshall Faulk, he's not better
- 3:09:02than LaDainian Tomlinson like Eric Coleman, thanks.
- 3:09:04But I do think he still was one of the best one.
- 3:09:06He was one of the best ones that I talked about.
- 3:09:09That offense being one of the best of all time that offense, I
- 3:09:12got game changer for a passing running, back in the running
- 3:09:15backs, more involved in that. All right job.
- 3:09:20I'm gonna go with one of my guys from Nebraska and Rodger Craig,
- 3:09:25I think it's all around. The game was, was really good
- 3:09:29and being able to watch him go and do.
- 3:09:33What he did. I mean he had he had over almost
- 3:09:375,000 receiving yards. So that's just tell you
- 3:09:41something with only eight. All right, goody for two.
- 3:09:47Oh, I'm going with my guy CMC. Christian, McCaffrey 500 and 9
- 3:09:52receptions. He's still on a role.
- 3:09:54He has 4400, plus receiving yards, 29 plus touchdowns, he
- 3:09:59caught 116 passes and 2019, which was the most ever by a
- 3:10:04running back in a season. He's a basically, a wide
- 3:10:06receiver and running. and he's still in this Prime, new knee
- 3:10:10and all Number two, we're gonna go at Larry Center's.
- 3:10:16I don't know if you know who he is, but he's technically, he had
- 3:10:25101 catches in 1995, 6,797 yards, 28 studies.
- 3:10:34Back to Jabba, do? I don't know if you know who he
- 3:10:37is. Great.
- 3:10:40Oh, had a great rating in Madden 96.
- 3:10:43Yeah, my pinky is bigger than yours.
- 3:10:45What do you love him? That's so good.
- 3:10:49I like my sim cocktail. A guy I watched kick our butts
- 3:10:55over and over from Kansas State and Darren Sproles.
- 3:10:58Yeah, that was the name of his game.
- 3:11:01Like you didn't know what especially in college but then
- 3:11:04you know to watch him get in and everybody's like talking about
- 3:11:07his size and whatever. Yeah, I was a little dude, but
- 3:11:09he was very lucid and very, very good with you know, more
- 3:11:13receiving yards than he had rushing yards.
- 3:11:16But all so I mean great returner in that too.
- 3:11:19But when you're able to You know, grow and build, and be
- 3:11:23that size. And and have the amount of yards
- 3:11:25he had over 11,000 total yards. So Darren Sproles even though
- 3:11:29that's for years Another guy that played in a mic Mart's
- 3:11:34offense and did very well that was Matt Forte.
- 3:11:36Another guy that Joy close to 100 catch is pretty much every
- 3:11:40year. I didn't, I don't think he had
- 3:11:41the receiving yard totals, like McCaffrey did because I wasn't
- 3:11:44like as big. He did it the way you're saying
- 3:11:47it. And that Cody, I don't think
- 3:11:49he's better than McCaffrey, he definitely still for that for
- 3:11:52that time in that offense, which I Jake Cutler who was a
- 3:11:55gunslinging quarterback. So didn't check it down as much
- 3:11:57as he should have. Still had a lot of catches, both
- 3:12:00the screens and with route running too was very precise for
- 3:12:02him. So Matt Forte second Now.
- 3:12:08Dead. Let me let me use the goody
- 3:12:10method, not me. Oh yes.
- 3:12:14So I looked up in the game but I'm gonna go with someone
- 3:12:18because clearly these guys are way better football than I am.
- 3:12:21OG Simpson as he running back at cut off, two people's heads.
- 3:12:27So I'm like these guys like any player in football so I'm gonna
- 3:12:34go to OJ. Are you sure about that?
- 3:12:37Aaron Hernandez. Got a couple like just plays a
- 3:12:41different position? I didn't lose that.
- 3:12:45All right. Dan last pick of the round.
- 3:12:47He's a crybaby. I didn't even know the player.
- 3:12:50Yeah. So you pick two now.
- 3:12:53You gotta do the last one. Oh remember.
- 3:12:57For the Jets because those seats are so bad.
- 3:12:59They had to throw to somebody to avoid the quarterback dying and
- 3:13:02I'm sure he's a lot of receptions, I gotta guess like a
- 3:13:05thousand just because that team was so terrible with Richards.
- 3:13:07Going back. It must have been a lot of
- 3:13:09receptors like lifesaving ones though.
- 3:13:13All right, Speedy. All right.
- 3:13:15I'll finish it off with the modern one.
- 3:13:16I got that. I think Mario very precise has a
- 3:13:18route Runner as well and I still playing not as good of a runner
- 3:13:21as he used to be. But Alvin Kamara as a receiver.
- 3:13:23I think you definitely saw. I think the combinations in
- 3:13:26that, Sean Payton offense, he was Rookie of the Year and when
- 3:13:29they outside of Michael Thomas, they didn't have much when it
- 3:13:32came to offensive all around skills.
- 3:13:33That Kamara actually was kind of that second receiver on that
- 3:13:36team for a long time. I was the injuries caught up to
- 3:13:38him later in his career, never was the amazing Pure Runner all
- 3:13:41the time and later Parts was Kerber, receiving wise.
- 3:13:44He's always been close to 1,000 yards and probably the best
- 3:13:47route running that I've seen at probably besides McCaffrey.
- 3:13:49I got to go back off. No.
- 3:13:52Job. I'm gonna go Thurman.
- 3:13:54He had a lot of rushing yards, but I just think when those
- 3:14:00years, they were going back and forth with the Cowboys, how he
- 3:14:03was able to, you know, compete with with Emmett and I mean, she
- 3:14:08had 23 receiving touchdowns, and almost 5,000 receiving yards
- 3:14:13Community played a while. But I always loved, when they go
- 3:14:16back and forth and they're kind of like the Yankees, they just
- 3:14:18could never went breaking news hoodie to finish it out as know
- 3:14:22Woody, I'm going where Mr. USC himself Heisman Trophy winner.
- 3:14:26Reggie Bush one of the most electrifying running backs.
- 3:14:30We had his rookie season 88 catches nearly 10 yards per
- 3:14:35reception that guy was incredible.
- 3:14:37Drove Mercedes-Benz had Hotwire Scott, tons of money and won the
- 3:14:42highest man got red band from the Heisman Trophy and then once
- 3:14:46the nio came back, my boy got his trophy back.
- 3:14:49So that Kardashian do I know where which I'm sure it does.
- 3:14:54She live in New York? I know rushing yards. 18 tuddies
- 3:15:01I need Brittany. All right arrow who is moving
- 3:15:04on. I Gotta Give goody a lot of
- 3:15:07credit because I like everyone if it's but him reading call.
- 3:15:12I'm not reading it. You talking about, he's got a AI
- 3:15:17chip in his brain, that's what it is.
- 3:15:20I'm gonna I, you know what? I'll give it to good.
- 3:15:24Evening because I just joked on a fruit.
- 3:15:31He's never made it to the second round.
- 3:15:33I'll take goody, I'll take speedy.
- 3:15:35Speedy, is always all right, Dan and Java.
- 3:15:39Pop up, the screen. You'll come back for the third
- 3:15:41rounds, where we vote if someone can beat Errol in a democratic
- 3:15:45way to, oh, you serve Dan his monarchy.
- 3:15:49You number two, the joust. A wonderful.
- 3:15:58Best. Scrambling quarterbacks of all
- 3:16:02time, this type of quarterback has to be famously known for
- 3:16:07their running ability. Let's go back to the screen.
- 3:16:13This is easy dog. Fighting himself.
- 3:16:18Michael Vick. For example, from the cops and
- 3:16:22he was scrambling on the field career, rush yards, 6,100, nine
- 3:16:26most, ever by quarterback, he was the best player.
- 3:16:29And all the NFL games I ever played, I always pick with that
- 3:16:31Lana because all I would do is fake rush it around the corner.
- 3:16:35Take it for a hundred and we call it 46 yard walk off, TD
- 3:16:40versus the Vikings in 2010. I mean, it's Michael Vick hands
- 3:16:43down, not even a question. Let's go to the other game,
- 3:16:46whatever the ones after this. All right.
- 3:16:49I'll go with Randall Cunningham in the 80s and 90s.
- 3:16:52Oh Eagles dual threat type guy. We talked about some of his
- 3:16:55receivers a couple weeks ago like really making it extending
- 3:16:57plays the way he did it but again trembling with his legs
- 3:17:00too. And again this I was the start
- 3:17:02of the mobile quarterback. They Roger.
- 3:17:04Staubach did probably a little bit in the 70s but I would say
- 3:17:07like in terms of like the electric like freak athlete
- 3:17:10running type quarterback. Randall Cunningham was kind of
- 3:17:12the first of that boat. Back to goody.
- 3:17:16We're gonna kick it all the way back to my man.
- 3:17:18Steve Young. He was the perfect balance of
- 3:17:21rushing. Passing dangerous Scrambler with
- 3:17:25the legs. How to arm to carry himself over
- 3:17:27any new, how to slide to the left, slide to the right or take
- 3:17:31off, Super Bowl champion and MVP career, rushing yards 4,239 and
- 3:17:37rushing TDC ended his career with 43.
- 3:17:39This guy was electrifying one of the best to do whatever Hall of
- 3:17:43Famer. Speedy.
- 3:17:45Oh, you gotta go with the one currently right now in Lamar
- 3:17:47Jackson. He's the only quarterback.
- 3:17:48That's rust for 1000 yards at a season and then he's had close
- 3:17:51to it on several other occasions when he's gotten, when he stayed
- 3:17:54healthy, he's at 800 900 in a couple of Seasons.
- 3:17:57Well, first MVP year was about in that range.
- 3:18:00And again, Mike Michael Vick was probably, like, in terms of like
- 3:18:03the fastest one. The, the I am a legend biggest
- 3:18:06threat, but when it comes to, like Lamar the way he's able to
- 3:18:08run an improvised the way he does it to, in this era, it's
- 3:18:12very impressive. What he's doing and what is kind
- 3:18:13of a power scheme with the Ravens when Greg Roman was their
- 3:18:16kind of transitioning into a different one.
- 3:18:18I need a 1000 yards at the season it kind of have to make
- 3:18:22that a leverage point. And last one goody, I don't care
- 3:18:27about rush yards in the season. I care about getting a job done,
- 3:18:29and that's touchdowns in the most ever touchdowns ever was by
- 3:18:32my main Cam Newton. All right, 75 most ever by a
- 3:18:36quarterback. Big ass quarterback, running
- 3:18:40people over left and right getting the job done.
- 3:18:43Five over five thousand, 600 rushing yards.
- 3:18:46Play for multiple teams, stole laptops and Florida.
- 3:18:49This guy was a true Gator. Ruined through went to the
- 3:18:52league put on a show. Now he's doing his own podcast
- 3:18:55and the guys incredible best scrambling.
- 3:18:57One of the best scrambling quarterbacks I've ever seen in
- 3:19:00my entire life. Speedy and I'll round it out
- 3:19:03with Steve McNair. Steve McNair, A Rest in Peace.
- 3:19:05By the way, what happened to him?
- 3:19:06I was such a sad. Sad story.
- 3:19:08You like that because that's Ariel's guy.
- 3:19:10Well yeah again he was out. He was a guy that I get an
- 3:19:14offense to again that was very run Donovan.
- 3:19:15Yeah run Centric offense with the Tennessee Titans in the
- 3:19:20early stages of Jeff Fisher. And then even with the Ravens
- 3:19:22too kind of rebirthing that quarterback position before Joe
- 3:19:25Flacco came along there and his running ability.
- 3:19:28His dual threat combination with not a lot of Great Wide
- 3:19:31receiving Talent throughout his career too.
- 3:19:32I think was very impressively played with a lot of good
- 3:19:34running backs. But top 10 all time when it
- 3:19:36comes to rushing yards for a quarterback as well.
- 3:19:38I want to go see if there was my last one.
- 3:19:41All right. Arrow, who's moving on to take
- 3:19:43on the king. I'm gonna tell you this Nick
- 3:19:45Goode I got it. I'm gonna go with Nick because I
- 3:19:48like all three of his guys. I mean, Speedy actually knew
- 3:19:51what he was talking about Nick is reading off the screen, so
- 3:19:54I'm going to talk ten, it was special, man.
- 3:19:59What in the top 10, I got it, I got the list.
- 3:20:02You gotta watch that documentary about how it's crazy, crazy.
- 3:20:06All right, so let's get everyone back in.
- 3:20:09We're gonna go up here for the taking on the king rallying, all
- 3:20:15of our earlier, competitors. And here we go for round three
- 3:20:21Arrow here. I know, it's kind of like gonna
- 3:20:24be easy for you. But the worst Jets draft picks
- 3:20:28of all time. You're gonna have to tell me the
- 3:20:33worst picks they've ever made in the NFL draft.
- 3:20:38There are many to choose from for this one.
- 3:20:41Errol, would you like to go first or second?
- 3:20:44I'll go first. Because I remember one that came
- 3:20:48from the Ohio State Buckeyes and his last name is galston, do
- 3:20:53remember him Speedy, defensive linebacker, worst six packs.
- 3:20:59He was he was, I think he was the sixth pick of the first
- 3:21:02round if I'm not. I don't even worse in front of
- 3:21:05me. And the guy had one tackle in
- 3:21:09five years in the NFL, he was moved to special teams.
- 3:21:13He was horrible and this guy. His combine was ridiculous.
- 3:21:17We talked about it. He was breaking records his
- 3:21:19combined. I think his his bench press is
- 3:21:22still there. If a linebackers, I think he
- 3:21:24benched it like 36 times. 225. I mean he was unbelievable at
- 3:21:29the company. Just shows you combine mean
- 3:21:32nothing as gold stand, was the worst defensive lineman or
- 3:21:37defensive? Top front seven.
- 3:21:39We've ever seen the jet straps so I'll go, I'll go with that.
- 3:21:43Goody. We're gonna kick it all the way
- 3:21:45back to Johnny lamb Jones, number two, overall, the 1980s
- 3:21:49graft. Alright, this guy had Olympic
- 3:21:52speed and no hands. This man couldn't even catch a
- 3:21:54cold. Only have one season, right
- 3:21:57arrow, I know you're looking it up.
- 3:21:58I see you over there, making sure Yeah.
- 3:22:02Okay look I'm good only have one season.
- 3:22:05All right. Actually, 700 receiving yards
- 3:22:07and was out of the league in five years.
- 3:22:09I know much. You got his bag but at the end
- 3:22:13of the day he's out home eating ramen noodles.
- 3:22:19All right, arrow. I I will point this guy out.
- 3:22:22This guy was the number one Prospect in the country when he
- 3:22:27was brought to Penn State. Remember this guy Christian
- 3:22:32Hackenberg remember him who couldn't hit a broadside of a
- 3:22:36barn when he came to the New York Jets.
- 3:22:38The Jets. Yes, the New York Jets and Mr.
- 3:22:41M, as we called him as the GM or Mr. Idiot.
- 3:22:45Drafted. This guy in the second round.
- 3:22:47This guy wasn't even shouldn't have been on top five.
- 3:22:50First round draft pick, he should have been a 67 Beyond
- 3:22:53drafted player. This guy was the worst
- 3:22:56quarterback. The Jets have ever drafted in.
- 3:22:59I would say 40 years when you talk about quarterbacks and the
- 3:23:03highest out of all of them and I'm talking about first Rider
- 3:23:05and we'll go into the Zach Wilson Trend, but this was
- 3:23:08horrible. Horrible.
- 3:23:10Okay, this was worth in Zach Wilson, it's crazy to say that,
- 3:23:14so I'm gonna go Christian Hackenberg.
- 3:23:18I'm gonna go with current quarterback.
- 3:23:21Zach Wilson. This guy's great at banging moms
- 3:23:24terrible at throwing the football.
- 3:23:25All right. Let's go.
- 3:23:28He was the number two. Overall.
- 3:23:29Pick showed the elite skills. I think, where do you go?
- 3:23:32Where do you go to Penn State or something?
- 3:23:33BYU BYU. One of those schools where they
- 3:23:38sell. All right, cord.
- 3:23:39Port decision making leadership skills or trash.
- 3:23:43Doesn't get it done and he's not improved in three years and he's
- 3:23:47been benched multiple times. I mean, he's the number two
- 3:23:50pick. All right?
- 3:23:50You're signing for 50 million dollar deal, expect the guy to
- 3:23:54show up and play in this guy, hasn't got anything done.
- 3:23:56Stopped behind Aaron Rodgers, think you would learn something.
- 3:23:58He hasn't next question. He was like the only school
- 3:24:02where he wouldn't be able to do that because they're all Mormons
- 3:24:04there, but Errol you're up. This is gonna be a head
- 3:24:09scratcher because I remember this draft very, very well
- 3:24:11because this is the draft. They could have drafted Warren
- 3:24:14Sapp. Yes, yeah.
- 3:24:15And I remember this draft very, very well because head shaking
- 3:24:18scratch shaking ass shaking was everything about this draft
- 3:24:23pick. I didn't even know who this guy
- 3:24:24was. When he was drafted, I was right
- 3:24:26in front of the television screen, when they called his
- 3:24:28name, that's Kyle, Brady Kyle, Brady tight ends when he came
- 3:24:32out of the draft. And I remember it very, very
- 3:24:34well because it made me sick to my stomach.
- 3:24:36Came from Penn State. This guy was picked over Warren
- 3:24:41Sapp. If the Jets and the Jets were
- 3:24:43sitting right there to grab them and they went over him for Kyle.
- 3:24:47Brady. I enough said, I don't even have
- 3:24:49to talk about it. I make me sick to my stomach.
- 3:24:52I just another stupid dumb move by the New York Jets.
- 3:24:56A Hall of Fame, Warren Sapp for Kyle.
- 3:24:59Brady, I'm done done with the hands goody finish it off.
- 3:25:03Well, that's great. But it's Warren Sapp comparable
- 3:25:06that Emmitt Smith. Who would you rather have on
- 3:25:08your team? Aren't tap Warren Sapp over and
- 3:25:10it's Smith. Oh, I'm talking about the Jets
- 3:25:14were primed to pick Emmitt Smith but instead they passed up on
- 3:25:17Emmett Smith to go with this guy and Blair Thomas.
- 3:25:20Run it back at the night, Thomas and second overall, 2009 career
- 3:25:24yards and four seasons. Trash, Java can get that right
- 3:25:28now. Are you taking over Smith?
- 3:25:31And that's enough. Said what was that?
- 3:25:32All right, yeah, no birth. He had no durability and despite
- 3:25:38being a good Penn State Career player like that was all he had.
- 3:25:41That was it, he ain't nothing. I'm taking Emmitt Smith over
- 3:25:44Warren Sapp any day of the week and Blair Thomas, you could kick
- 3:25:46rocks. All right, we'll start the
- 3:25:50voting. I'm gonna go with arrow on this
- 3:25:52one. The Burning Goldston horses you
- 3:25:54are. Was he a lamb bone?
- 3:25:57Hey, goody. How many yards did Zach Wilson
- 3:26:02have for his career? According to that website, you
- 3:26:04were reading off of, oh, no. I don't have a website.
- 3:26:08Or you have the you don't have glasses.
- 3:26:10I should get one of those where it's like just absent there.
- 3:26:13You're great. There's no.
- 3:26:15Yeah, I've been improving three years and he's good at banging
- 3:26:18moms. He is, he wasn't allowed to in
- 3:26:21college. Perhaps, that's why he did when
- 3:26:22he got to the pros, Hackenberg was unplayable.
- 3:26:26So I agree. Horrible and the Kyle Brady pick
- 3:26:29is a legendary bad pick in history of the NFL draft.
- 3:26:33So I got to go with our old. The only one I didn't hear was
- 3:26:35the kennel, Brian pick. I was gonna use Channel.
- 3:26:37Brian. Probably wasn't the worst
- 3:26:39player. No trap.
- 3:26:40Yeah, well kid O'Brien was a good quarter, right?
- 3:26:43He wasn't over Dan Marino but he was a good quarterback.
- 3:26:46He wasn't bad. It's a famous story.
- 3:26:49A lot of people could have went with Dan Marina.
- 3:26:53I am Mark Sanchez on there. No, back to back East.
- 3:26:58All right, so Errol, the that's my vote.
- 3:27:03Let's go to Joba because the delivery if you didn't know, you
- 3:27:07couldn't stop laughing. I mean this it was like if you
- 3:27:14didn't, if you didn't damn you, he was like I don't know this.
- 3:27:18But I like him like we're seeing here because usually it's off
- 3:27:22the real stuff. And you literally, I was like,
- 3:27:26if I've never listened to this show and never listened to me.
- 3:27:29This is one of the smartest human being Because it flowed so
- 3:27:34good and you didn't make it look like you but knowing you that
- 3:27:38was unbelievable. But Ariel yet.
- 3:27:41Oh my God. That's too long bones.
- 3:27:42All right. Speedy finish it off.
- 3:27:45I got it actually, I do love the presentation.
- 3:27:47That was easily the best president.
- 3:27:49I said okay the hell history I will I will I'm the king.
- 3:27:52I'm the king. I don't care if he the king.
- 3:27:55I'm the king. You are the king of the
- 3:27:56presentation of your answer. That was truly remarkable Errol.
- 3:28:01There's a player so forth. Look in the sky up.
- 3:28:05I don't even know who he is. Great Christian.
- 3:28:08Yeah, how long Chris probably would have been my first
- 3:28:15technology like of other thing. The only one that I didn't hear
- 3:28:18fish, you brought up. You brought up kind of Brian.
- 3:28:20The only one I was gonna say too possibly would have been demoner
- 3:28:22as well. Who I thought was gonna be good
- 3:28:25too. At the time, all day in the 2013
- 3:28:28draft, he probably would have been in my other one about the
- 3:28:30Louis Vuitton Slugger. Remember him.
- 3:28:32The safety. Oh, why are you talking about?
- 3:28:36Yeah. Again I think he was probably he
- 3:28:39was not a great player. Obviously I don't think he was
- 3:28:41as low of a low as we had. We had one, we had had a guy on
- 3:28:45a show. That was a high draft pick for
- 3:28:47the Jets. He wasn't really good.
- 3:28:48Yeah, I was gonna include him though.
- 3:28:50He's been a good guy to have the show.
- 3:28:53You're right. Don't worry, we'll get him back
- 3:28:57on the show and Travis hunter gets his first career reception.
- 3:28:59Remember love, quit and coals but he was never gonna, I was
- 3:29:03never gonna include putting coals and that love you, love
- 3:29:07you, but email says that good. He's the king there, he's not,
- 3:29:13he can cut the music. Arrow stays the king.
- 3:29:16Can I get another week? Yeah, because I would think of
- 3:29:19the hill I probably would have went Hackenberg than Goldson and
- 3:29:22then email or my three that I was thinking, but Brady was,
- 3:29:24that's what you were in the second round.
- 3:29:25That was key because you're the king of the presentation.
- 3:29:30I am not mad. You made it over me.
- 3:29:31I like it is rigged. Jake, I know it.
- 3:29:35This game is rigged. I get out of here.
- 3:29:37What is Jake's smoking? All right, I never said, I had
- 3:29:41to be a fair last round for the king like no, I I thought that
- 3:29:45was I didn't think as soon as you told me that I know good.
- 3:29:48He could look at all up. There's no way he's beating me.
- 3:29:51I know it. I'm good.
- 3:29:53I think I Know that Jets a little bit better than you.
- 3:29:57Anyways. We call this segment dial it up,
- 3:30:03winner up, this regular scheduled hot mix, bringing an
- 3:30:06important news. We got a big broadcast to do
- 3:30:09here. We're about to dial it up.
- 3:30:11I got the Bubble Guppies All right guys.
- 3:30:17Welcome back to dial it up. This is everyone's favorite
- 3:30:20lightning round as far as segment where we have a bunch of
- 3:30:24stories that Errol has not seen is gonna have to dial up a tape
- 3:30:27and one of us will comment on what Arrow has to say.
- 3:30:30Are you ready? I like tonight's episode with
- 3:30:35Scotty Scheffler winning. The, don't call it.
- 3:30:38The British Open. It's in Ireland.
- 3:30:39The Open Championship. Yes.
- 3:30:42I'll still call the 25th here in Royal Port Richey Northern
- 3:30:48Ireland's. He led for most of the
- 3:30:50tournament after finishing one stroke back after day one.
- 3:30:53Here's the quote, from Rory, McIlroy who had a real charge on
- 3:30:58the third day of the tournament, was not able to hold it up for
- 3:31:01day four. None of us could hang with
- 3:31:03Scotty this week. He's an incredible player.
- 3:31:06He's been dominant this week. Honestly, he's been dominant for
- 3:31:09the last couple of years. He is the bar that we are all
- 3:31:13trying to get to and historical context.
- 3:31:16You could argue that there's only maybe two or three players
- 3:31:19in the history of the game that have been on a run.
- 3:31:23Like the one Scotty's been on here for the last 24 to 36
- 3:31:27months, incredibly impressive. That's a pretty pretty High,
- 3:31:32Praise Errol time to dial it up. First of all, Scotty chefler is
- 3:31:38been in an unbelievable phenomenal player.
- 3:31:41If you look at what he's done in in the last couple of PGA,
- 3:31:44tournaments Masters, he won in 2022 and 2024.
- 3:31:48PGA Championship 2025 US, Open 2022 and in obviously the Open
- 3:31:54Championship. Now, in 2025, he has been the
- 3:31:57most dominated golfer over the last three Seasons, Four
- 3:32:01Seasons. He could argue this guy's been
- 3:32:03consistent and guess what? New Jersey born East Coast born.
- 3:32:08He's been one of the best and you're looking for the next
- 3:32:11American Born player to be a superstar.
- 3:32:14I think, sheffler's the guy, I think, He's been a proud guy
- 3:32:17that's gone out there and played the best games that the best
- 3:32:20game. He could possibly go out there
- 3:32:22and be. And by the way, I'm going back
- 3:32:24to all the greats that we've seen over the years, the Phil,
- 3:32:27Mickelson's and the Tiger Woods. We're always looking for that
- 3:32:30next guy. That kind of bringing United
- 3:32:32States golf back to the fair. You know, to the high points, I
- 3:32:36think Scheffler is the guy. He's one of those guys that are
- 3:32:38gonna stand out for the near future and the future is now for
- 3:32:42Scotty Shuffle. Congratulations to Scotty.
- 3:32:44If I recall we can go back, we had a segment.
- 3:32:48Where we talking about best athletes in the last?
- 3:32:51I don't know what it was and you I think it's Gotti wasn't that
- 3:32:56great Falls. Know, I said that he's not in my
- 3:32:58top five. And well.
- 3:33:01Okay, but no. Other since Tigers, nobody's
- 3:33:05done it, he'll never had a run like this.
- 3:33:07Um he never stayed number one as long as Scotty has and it's just
- 3:33:11I don't know if you guys ever get a chance.
- 3:33:16Listen to Scotty Shepherd. Talk about golf.
- 3:33:19And he doesn't care about. No.
- 3:33:22He literally is like why would why do I care about this?
- 3:33:25He asked himself, why do I care? He goes to my great.
- 3:33:31This my wife be, thank you for working so hard to love.
- 3:33:34Getting up every day and doing good but I don't really care.
- 3:33:38And like just the way he approaches it is what makes him
- 3:33:41so good. And he can.
- 3:33:43I mean it's just it's remarkable to see somebody like him. be
- 3:33:49this great and then you see other guys like with emotion and
- 3:33:52you know how Tiger Woods look And it just it's good for golf
- 3:33:57and it's good for the average dude.
- 3:34:01That's not you know, crazy. In the Limelight doing
- 3:34:05everything, just a normal dude that chilled hangs out of the
- 3:34:08family and plays golf. That's really what he does.
- 3:34:10But yeah, it's been super fun to watch.
- 3:34:12It's kind of getting boring seeing them, when everything
- 3:34:15it's like you come into a tournament.
- 3:34:17It's not quite to Tiger level. But like who's gonna be in the
- 3:34:22top three with Scotty? It was when tiger was at his
- 3:34:25feet. They're like, who's playing for
- 3:34:27second. He's within Striking Distance,
- 3:34:29y'all got no change. So, it's been fun to see and
- 3:34:32he's done a great job for golf and people getting to know who
- 3:34:36he really is, and he's honest about him.
- 3:34:38I think people really love. I just love that he's from the
- 3:34:42New Jersey area, the East Coast Area and that's good for as far
- 3:34:46as I'm concerned. That's the metal real quick,
- 3:34:48though. That's right.
- 3:34:51Ridgewood New Jersey, that's where he's from.
- 3:34:54So he's from the minutes away from me.
- 3:34:56Yeah, it's a really nice town and he also got arrested in one
- 3:34:59that? Yes, he did.
- 3:35:00That was he was All right, let's move on.
- 3:35:05We're going into from golf to a record extension.
- 3:35:11For TJ watt. You mentioned it when we had
- 3:35:14Jamie winborne on earlier tonight.
- 3:35:16Well, the Steelers and Edge rusher, TJ watt agree to a three
- 3:35:20year. 123 million dollar extension with 108 million,
- 3:35:25guaranteed, which is the same amount of sacks.
- 3:35:28What has in his career. ESPN's Adam chapter went on
- 3:35:32macphee, on Monday, saying they were really far apart.
- 3:35:35Disagreeing on the length of the contract.
- 3:35:37I think he would have wanted for years.
- 3:35:38I think they like to they compromise The Meta 3 Steelers
- 3:35:42report to camp on Wednesday Errol.
- 3:35:48Biggest player on defense now, I guess the biggest contract.
- 3:35:53Waiting for this contract. I couldn't believe that the
- 3:35:56Pittsburgh Steelers, waited this long, this guy is the best
- 3:35:59player on that team. He's been the best player on
- 3:36:01that on that or in that Organization for such a long
- 3:36:04time. If you look at where he was
- 3:36:05drafted, if I'm not mistaken, he was drafted 30 in the first
- 3:36:09round. This guy fell.
- 3:36:10As far as he did, he's better than his father, his brother JJ,
- 3:36:13this guy's gonna go down as one of the top, I would say.
- 3:36:16Three or four defensive players ever played the game.
- 3:36:19He's been so dominant, not just for Steelers football.
- 3:36:22So I'll delete. When you talk about Myles,
- 3:36:24Garrett and all these top-end pass rushers, Micah Parsons, who
- 3:36:28wants that big time contract, who's probably gonna break, TJ
- 3:36:31Watts contract, because he waited so long, I Teach a is
- 3:36:34been the best one. I don't think there's a
- 3:36:37comparable even thought for any of these guys, he has been the
- 3:36:41best player in the league for the last three years from from
- 3:36:45quarterback, take away the quarterback.
- 3:36:47This guy is been the best player in the league, right?
- 3:36:49Ball behind Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen.
- 3:36:52Patrick Mahomes. If you'd asked me right now, if
- 3:36:54I'm building a team right now, if away from the quarterbacks
- 3:36:59that I can, I could go after player that's gonna change my
- 3:37:01organization. It would be TJ watt.
- 3:37:04He is a game-changing. Terror changing defensive
- 3:37:08lineman in this league and he changes the game automatically,
- 3:37:11ask look at what Pittsburgh's done.
- 3:37:13They haven't had a quarterback in such a long time and they
- 3:37:17make the playoffs every single year.
- 3:37:19Go ask everybody why they make the playoffs every year.
- 3:37:22Dominant defense, dominant playing and dominant TJ Watt.
- 3:37:26That's why and by the way always stay healthy.
- 3:37:28If you look at his career besides maybe one or two
- 3:37:31seasons, this guy early in his career, he has been the most
- 3:37:35healthiest defensive lineman in all of the him and JJ have the
- 3:37:38same injury. Yep, they're packed or whatever.
- 3:37:40Yeah. He had a bad Peck and dry.
- 3:37:42I think at the end of the 2019 season that was a reason they
- 3:37:44collapsed in the playoffs. But I think since then most of
- 3:37:48his injuries are just smaller, injury is where he plays through
- 3:37:50them. And like you were saying, Place
- 3:37:51through the injuries because it's one of the toughest guys in
- 3:37:53the league teams which Championship.
- 3:37:55Yeah. And this is a guy that is
- 3:37:56turning into the last 15 years. The greatest outside rusher this
- 3:37:59generation like more of a stand-up linebacker than Drake
- 3:38:02directly on the line but can play on the line too and already
- 3:38:05a Hall of Famer. Tires today and he definitely
- 3:38:07could get up there if he does, stay healthy the rest of his
- 3:38:10career to levels the sack totals of what you're looking at.
- 3:38:13Probably Charles Haley at Terrell Suggs.
- 3:38:15DeMarcus Ware. These other outside rushers that
- 3:38:16you're looking at is probably those best, like, outside
- 3:38:19linebackers passing wise of all time.
- 3:38:21He's been that good very well deserved.
- 3:38:22I didn't know if they could get it done with the way that Omar
- 3:38:25Khan has been kind of up and down.
- 3:38:26Operating this offseason, he was one of the guys, TJ Watts that
- 3:38:29didn't want Aaron Rodgers there. So I wasn't sure how that
- 3:38:31relationship, but they made the relationship work.
- 3:38:33He always like the ownership and congratulations.
- 3:38:35He's a great face of that organization.
- 3:38:37By the way, he is such a good guy, everything that I've heard
- 3:38:40about him and what he does off, the field is special and and
- 3:38:44even he's so nasty on the football field off the field.
- 3:38:48Everybody says this guy is the kindness, most gentle person
- 3:38:51you'll ever meet. He's built like a frigate trunk
- 3:38:55too. Bye.
- 3:38:56By the way. So at one time, all three
- 3:38:57brothers were in the NFL. Okay.
- 3:38:59Dad that they had JJ and TJ. And then the third brother Derek
- 3:39:04was a fullback. Derek was play with him playing
- 3:39:06with Pittsburgh. Yeah.
- 3:39:07For a little bit and then I think he was with the Patriots,
- 3:39:09I believe he sought. No offense to him.
- 3:39:11I mean, yeah, it's not a lot of place for fullbacks isn't where
- 3:39:14you gonna go with those two? Yeah, not only that your
- 3:39:18brothers were the two best defensive guys and you just, you
- 3:39:22know what I mean? Like but whatever, let's move on
- 3:39:24to baseball. This one was this story.
- 3:39:28I couldn't believe got didn't get more play.
- 3:39:30The strange Gordon accused Rob Manfred over Revenge suspension.
- 3:39:37Yes, Dee Gordon. Went on the road room podcast,
- 3:39:41made a startling accusation against commissioner Rob
- 3:39:44Manfred. He said he was suspended in 2016
- 3:39:47for StoryBots, after not complying with manfred's
- 3:39:50request, to allow an unnamed player who was up for the
- 3:39:54batting title in 2015 so he could win the Triple Crown.
- 3:39:58Of course, that player was easy to find out was Bryce Harper.
- 3:40:01Who was the MVP That season Gordon went on to win the
- 3:40:04batting title on the last day going for Four and says he was
- 3:40:08suspended for steroids even though he's 165 pounds soaking
- 3:40:13wet and has never done. Would never do something like
- 3:40:16that. I think this is fascinating.
- 3:40:19This would have been the first year of Manfred as commissioner
- 3:40:23Errol. Dial.
- 3:40:25Oh I haven't heard anything about this story, that's why
- 3:40:28it's great. I I'm not going to I'm not going
- 3:40:31to think that D Gordon's lying about this.
- 3:40:33Rob manfred's, a complete ass. He's the type of person that
- 3:40:36would do something like this to a player and and again Bryce
- 3:40:39Harper's a star, he's all about the Stars.
- 3:40:41These Commissioners are all about the Stars, the lja, Adam
- 3:40:44Silver, and LeBron James. He's all about the Stars.
- 3:40:47If you look at the NHL Connor McDavid, what Connor says, goes
- 3:40:50Connor's getting the most money in the NHL because he's the best
- 3:40:53player in the NHL. This is the problem right now,
- 3:40:55in professional sports. It's not Dee Gordon isn't a big
- 3:40:59name. He's a small stature guy.
- 3:41:01Nobody gives a crappy play for the Marlin's who gave a crap
- 3:41:05about them all. Like the mall, it's all the
- 3:41:06organization for years. Have had so much good talent.
- 3:41:09Go look, Josh Beckett provano, you go and and then they go Josh
- 3:41:14back. He was a pretty good guy, pretty
- 3:41:16good boss, the Red Sox, I mean call Papa was powerful with the
- 3:41:19Yankees, but if you look at the players that the Marlin 5 Miguel
- 3:41:23Cabrera remember him, he goes The Detroit and wins the Triple
- 3:41:26Crown. There are so many good players
- 3:41:28that came from the Marlins over the years.
- 3:41:30D, Gordon is not one of those names that really pop out to
- 3:41:34you, but when you hear a story like this, it only tells you one
- 3:41:37thing about a guy like Rob Manfred, or whatever the hell
- 3:41:40you want to call him as job is as he's a jackass.
- 3:41:43He's a guy that doesn't protect or even share Superstar players
- 3:41:48to the league. He always wants to put the
- 3:41:50superstar in front of the No Name, players.
- 3:41:52Remember the Jose Reyes thing? I love that, that was a butt
- 3:41:56Sealy time. Perfect to stand out for what
- 3:41:58the major league's All About. They let players like that.
- 3:42:01Do something like that, so they can win a batting title and make
- 3:42:04some more money. It's just pathetic.
- 3:42:06It's about marketing though. Isn't it isn't baseball
- 3:42:09struggling and Manfred takes the job over he was I know what I'm
- 3:42:13gonna do. Drinking to get us, drink it
- 3:42:15right Harper, triple crown and then we can create some buzz and
- 3:42:19we can make him into our Superstar even though he already
- 3:42:22is you know, it did its I believe it.
- 3:42:28Stupid. Because it's so stupid.
- 3:42:30Who cares? If he is the MVP, he was a great
- 3:42:34player. He's one of the best players in
- 3:42:35the last dozen plus years. We all know who Bryce Harper is
- 3:42:38Decor Gordon was also really good player.
- 3:42:41He wasn't Bryce Harper. He was a unique type of players.
- 3:42:44A Speedster, who hit for high average.
- 3:42:47Give him his dude. I like I like Bryce Harper.
- 3:42:49He for a guy that everybody expected him to be like just
- 3:42:54like the next big thing he was very overrated and and High
- 3:42:58Praise when he got it when he came out of the draft this high
- 3:43:01as he did. I I think he's overrated for
- 3:43:04what he should have been. That's just my opinion.
- 3:43:06I think he's a great player but this guy was like the next
- 3:43:09coming I'm here. I remember when there was a
- 3:43:11single Sports Illustrated at 14 years old.
- 3:43:13His first couple years were kind of freaky, right?
- 3:43:15I just I think since he's joined the Phillies he's like Sure
- 3:43:18Fire. Yes, he's definitely better than
- 3:43:19he was when he was with the national.
- 3:43:21He's very sure that the deal with those relief pitchers too.
- 3:43:24You know, he was really aggressive and now he's plays
- 3:43:29first base. He's so easier from this to keep
- 3:43:32it together. Dan, what do you look like?
- 3:43:34You want to share something about this one?
- 3:43:36She pop on in Arrow, the breeze Harper whenever he did.
- 3:43:40So that year know he Know he's a World Series know one world.
- 3:43:46He would. Yeah, no, no, he never won a
- 3:43:49World Series Soto the Nationals. Won the year after Bryce
- 3:43:52Phillies. Yeah, he never won with the
- 3:43:54Phillies. I bet 31, the Phillies he won
- 3:43:57with the Phillies in 2022. He went he lost to the Astros.
- 3:44:02They didn't win the World Series.
- 3:44:03They didn't win the world, so he didn't hear the world.
- 3:44:06He played in the world. He never won in the World
- 3:44:09Series. He never won.
- 3:44:10Sorry world. Sorry.
- 3:44:11Right? I start to regress of admission
- 3:44:13that was, I'm not gonna yell when I make a mistake, you I
- 3:44:23love messing around and I love messing around with you, but I,
- 3:44:27when you said that, when fish said he want to World Series, I
- 3:44:31was like, when I don't remember anyone in the world series, I
- 3:44:33don't remember he did. But I guess he was, you know
- 3:44:36what? He left, he left the Nationals
- 3:44:38and then they won here Soto was. Yeah, I know.
- 3:44:40But then he went with the Phillies won one now they lost
- 3:44:44to Houston in 2022. There you go.
- 3:44:46All right, well, I mean and they're, they're fully on this
- 3:44:49but regardless he was NLCS MVP that year Harper, but he did not
- 3:44:53win the World Series. Makes sense.
- 3:44:55I'll say it's kind of a great player.
- 3:44:58Like, you know it has limitations and be like like for
- 3:45:02pitches, right? I can't be starter.
- 3:45:04I was being awesome reliever because I can throw tunings a
- 3:45:07million miles an hour or like Hey listen.
- 3:45:09I used to be able to run like a deer in the Outfield but now I'm
- 3:45:12kind of slowing up. So I'll play first base.
- 3:45:13Like that's normally like look at um Robin yeah like that guy
- 3:45:18was a senate of the game, shortstop, right.
- 3:45:19Or they pull them out or who was like Alpha game with DH
- 3:45:23sometimes and both whole fingers like you need to sometimes.
- 3:45:26Go listen, I'm slowing down. So let's make let's take the
- 3:45:30best way to do and maximize it like that's smart.
- 3:45:34And so, yeah, I mean the guy I'm not saying he's not a great
- 3:45:39player, Dan a career, a 281 hitter.
- 3:45:42But if you look at his career as a player, he was expected to be
- 3:45:47like Aaron judge, that type of good.
- 3:45:49Aaron judge was not drafted as a big, that's what I respect.
- 3:45:55Your opinion. But I'd like to talk to the guys
- 3:45:56are actually Pro major for a second, like, like so, like You
- 3:46:02guys younger than me, because I'm old shit.
- 3:46:04But, like, you guys, like, I heard you guys play video games
- 3:46:07or you going up. Be like, oh, I played like, you
- 3:46:09know, Tech Mobile, whatever. Like, if RBI Baseball, like,
- 3:46:14what happened to because this is so, I went to Minsky yesterday
- 3:46:18and I watched them. barely winning us, a bad team but I'm
- 3:46:23like There's one 300 hit International League.
- 3:46:26Currently today. What the fuck is that about?
- 3:46:31Because like, I don't know, like years ago, they were like 15,
- 3:46:35guys hitting 320 plus and now there's like, one, dude, it's
- 3:46:40almost like he's in an island of like, what's wrong with this
- 3:46:42guy? Like, like why is it that
- 3:46:45hitting used to be? You had to 320 50 home runs. 120
- 3:46:50RBIs, or even back in like the 80s before.
- 3:46:52Steroids hit 3203 RBIs like that Iran.
- 3:46:57Vanished and I don't know why. This um, when I'm watching the
- 3:47:01Majesty, they put up on the players, the opiates.
- 3:47:04Like this guy's Opus is 517, like that guy.
- 3:47:07Shouldn't be in baseball. So like, like your PS is like
- 3:47:11everything you do is barely half.
- 3:47:15The fuck out. Like that was my company.
- 3:47:17And I had a guy was like, listen, I punch holes and paper.
- 3:47:20I hit about right after the time, you don't belong here.
- 3:47:24Like so what happened? Where like manly, like Ariel
- 3:47:27said before, 3503 43, home runs, 145 RBIs in 85.
- 3:47:33And now, you like her first base, like, well, he took 60 MVP
- 3:47:38candidate. What happened?
- 3:47:41Pigeons gotten way better, man. that's how that's how it is and
- 3:47:45they can't and the hitters have changed their approach from
- 3:47:47basically slicing the ball in half, To trying to create launch
- 3:47:52angle to hit more home runs because Homer's pay.
- 3:47:55So, if a guy goes out and hits 35 homers and that's 220
- 3:47:58incredible. But if a guy goes out, it's
- 3:48:01whatever 265 270 with like 12. It's like as a Kyle schwarber,
- 3:48:07you know, and then they show up in the postseason.
- 3:48:09Same thing within a show up in the postseason and You know,
- 3:48:12that he can go deep at any point.
- 3:48:14But the pitching is, what is like what?
- 3:48:16I talked about misky, they got those 102 miles an hour.
- 3:48:18Like do you think and 1990 to 2000?
- 3:48:22Guys? Were just blowing 100 on
- 3:48:24average, the average fastball and I'm sure he Like to learn
- 3:48:29through anything that second part is like so pictures as oh
- 3:48:34have always thrown hard. I mean like some guys are you
- 3:48:38know off the charts like Chapman throws 105 sometimes which I
- 3:48:42don't know, I don't know what a batting against that.
- 3:48:44But the other part is that, if that's the case, then why are
- 3:48:49there no pictures of arrays like 0.04 or Point like 92?
- 3:48:54Like everyone just like three and a half.
- 3:48:56Last year we had a manual class a red like a 0.71 as a reliever
- 3:49:01out of the out of the bullpen and he throws him as a strike.
- 3:49:05A lot of guys out but he's still produces.
- 3:49:07So I mean it's their eras I think are are lower.
- 3:49:12With the higher velocity, you have more chance to meet you
- 3:49:15have more chance for. Are you have a higher chance for
- 3:49:17are not getting dinged up versus the guys who throw 90 to 90?
- 3:49:21Probably 99 or now is probably considered pretty average, if
- 3:49:26not slow. And guys, if you missed that
- 3:49:29994, you're getting touched. It's a different game.
- 3:49:34The game is Just evolved. That's that's all it is.
- 3:49:36It's a game is evolved and The hitters are the hitters
- 3:49:40approaches are much different than they were in the 90s.
- 3:49:42Like there's a guy. What's his name Freddy for ditto
- 3:49:46or what something on Twitter, I think ready for you. yeah, the
- 3:49:52guy who talks about hitting he's a he's ready to f r i e t a It's
- 3:49:57like he's got, he's got a dash in his name.
- 3:49:59Yeah, but he's that's not his real name like his real.
- 3:50:02Yeah. So he talks about the Swing Man
- 3:50:06or the the teacher manner heating coach, how he wants the
- 3:50:10bat back and all this. And and he yeah they blast each
- 3:50:15other on social media because that's the new approach and it's
- 3:50:19leading to more homers but a much less adding average where
- 3:50:24back in the day. It was let's focus on line drive
- 3:50:28and if you missed it and it goes out of the park will then you
- 3:50:30miss it and it goes out the park for a home and now guys are
- 3:50:32actively trying to hit homeworks.
- 3:50:34Well and average is taking away. Like, sure had 200 walks to 200
- 3:50:39strikeouts and hit below them in those other one. 198 thing goes
- 3:50:43out in balls out, you're gonna take that because it's Ops is so
- 3:50:46different. They're gonna take the more
- 3:50:48analytical approach, Yes, it is, is a nice hit 350.
- 3:50:53But if you're hitting 350 and 50, it's a you're just
- 3:50:57different. And that that just doesn't
- 3:50:58happen anymore. Just pitching has gotten better.
- 3:51:00The analytics have changed. And then from the pitching side,
- 3:51:03it's like what your spin rate, what's your horizontal vertical?
- 3:51:05But yeah, there's it's just the game changing and it's It's part
- 3:51:10of it. So it's like, strikeouts are
- 3:51:13going to be up. The homers are going to be up.
- 3:51:14That's just the way it is. All right, then we got up on
- 3:51:17this one. I gotta, I got this follow up
- 3:51:20and you can go on but I thought, right?
- 3:51:21So if that's the case, why don't the pictures have lower ears?
- 3:51:25Because they're still making mistakes and they're still in
- 3:51:28the Major League? Those are more not everybody
- 3:51:29knows those 100 and eventually hitters will time that up.
- 3:51:34If you see 100 a couple times in a row like Nathan of all, he's a
- 3:51:37good friend of mine, but his 100 doesn't play like 100, you know,
- 3:51:40like some guys fastballs play different.
- 3:51:42So some guys fastballs play up a 92 that with like 20 inches of
- 3:51:47vertical. Break is going to play it to 95
- 3:51:49and actually hold played longer to where it looks like.
- 3:51:51The ball is actually Rising versus a guy throws a hundred
- 3:51:54with let's say 12 vertical horizontal.
- 3:51:57It's considered a dead red fastball even though it's 100
- 3:52:01miles an hour, it's a dead red. Fastball and hitters are trained
- 3:52:03to see that over time. There was a guy back in the day,
- 3:52:07like when the Yankees were really Elite, like, around the
- 3:52:10time you were playing their job, Billy cotch was a reliever like
- 3:52:14that for the Blue Jays bounced. Around a little bit of closer
- 3:52:17for a little bit. He threw it.
- 3:52:18But it was straight as an arrow every single time and people
- 3:52:21killed that guy, and that was before everyone showing 100, but
- 3:52:25let's move on. We got to get to the next one.
- 3:52:27Let's go to basketball. And yes, that is the Golden Boy
- 3:52:31from duke and Noble the summer league.
- 3:52:34It Envy P. The Charlotte Hornets defeated,
- 3:52:37the Sacramento Kings 83 to 78 Sunday, to win the NBA Summer
- 3:52:41League Championship number four, overall, pittcon canoe was named
- 3:52:45Summer League MVP with a 21.5 rebound effort in the
- 3:52:48championship game in Vegas, knuppel joins the such
- 3:52:52luminaries such as Jalen Wilson, cam Whitmore Keegan Murray,
- 3:52:56Davion Mitchell and cam Thomas as MVPs of the summer league
- 3:53:00since the pandemic knobel joins, a Hornets roster headlined by
- 3:53:05lamelo ball and Brandon Miller that is likely destined for
- 3:53:08another season in the draft lottery, despite a down Eastern
- 3:53:12Conference. It's your boy Errol, dial it up,
- 3:53:16he's not my boy. Okay, I know he's a Duke Blue
- 3:53:20Devil and I like canoe. I think he could be a good
- 3:53:22player and I think he could be a good addition for the Hornets.
- 3:53:25But look, the Hornets win the championship for the summer
- 3:53:29league, who airs? Remember the Lakers won the
- 3:53:33tournament last year. Remember that stupid in in
- 3:53:36season tournament, they win. They win that.
- 3:53:39And they barely at one point. Make the player.
- 3:53:41Well, they made the playoffs. Say she has a four seat.
- 3:53:43That's only because of LeBron James and Luka Duncan the second
- 3:53:46half of the season. I honest to God I think knuckle
- 3:53:50and the Melo ball gonna be good players but they're gonna be an
- 3:53:53all shooting team. I don't know how long that's
- 3:53:55going to work and I'm interested to see what his brothers are
- 3:53:58gonna be. I think all four brothers could
- 3:53:59be NBA players. They have a swarm of talent from
- 3:54:02that family, but I I think knuppel should have waited
- 3:54:06another year before he get. When it went into the NBA.
- 3:54:09Obviously, he was one of the best Shooters.
- 3:54:12He was the best shooter coming out of the draft.
- 3:54:13So everybody expects him to be a good player.
- 3:54:15We'll see how he develops the NBA's, very different.
- 3:54:17If you're a good shooter in the NBA and you can work, you can
- 3:54:21have a pretty good release and a fast release, like this kid
- 3:54:24reminds me. If he turns out to be this guy,
- 3:54:26he's gonna be a great player. He's just not a good Defender.
- 3:54:29Like this guy, that's Klay Thompson, his release.
- 3:54:32And the way he really is the ball is Just like Klay Thompson.
- 3:54:35Watch his shooting technique and watch Klay Thompson almost The
- 3:54:39Identical. The way they shoot the ball, but
- 3:54:42Klay Thompson's a good two-way player.
- 3:54:43This guy doesn't play a liquor defense.
- 3:54:45That's the difference. And by the way, if Cooper flag
- 3:54:48was actually playing throughout the summer league, he wins the
- 3:54:53nvp, the Dallas, Mavericks are a stupid organization trying to
- 3:54:57take away the one American Superstar that's going to hold
- 3:55:01the American flag up and be the face of Teen USA Basketball for
- 3:55:06the future. What a Croc, the wrong Duke, you
- 3:55:09know, devil I don't know if it's Klay Thompson that I see when I
- 3:55:12watch him today. I have a different dookie that.
- 3:55:16I'm gonna compare him to. But before I do that, right?
- 3:55:19No, it's not ready. It's your fourth pick.
- 3:55:24You came out at the right time because let's face it can opal
- 3:55:27is not getting higher than that and next year's draft, I just
- 3:55:29gave me a loaded draft. It's gonna be a loaded draft,
- 3:55:32you wouldn't get away his athletic profile rates in the
- 3:55:36top five. Next year, I disagree, with no
- 3:55:38way, I disagree, I I think that another year under that offense
- 3:55:41with the talent that they have, are there and his shot shooting
- 3:55:44ability, he's gonna score 2530 points for the Duke Blue Devils
- 3:55:47maybe wins the national Player of the Year, that's how good.
- 3:55:50I like his size. A great job size reminds me of a
- 3:55:54different dude guy and that's Kyle Singler coming into the
- 3:55:59listen. He was a really good player.
- 3:56:01He had mental problems and we saw what happened to him.
- 3:56:03We did a thing on him a year ago, he was like homeless or
- 3:56:06something like that. He's got a lot of issues but he
- 3:56:09was French, you know, gonna be like on the verge of possibly
- 3:56:14being on the way to an All-Star game.
- 3:56:16One year he really was, he was really good and I'm sorry to cut
- 3:56:21you off. Ladies and gentlemen, when you
- 3:56:22have a chance to watch a canopy shoot And go look Klay Thompson.
- 3:56:25Almost identical releases the way they shoot the ball.
- 3:56:29Go look at it, very fast, very quick release the way they jump
- 3:56:33and they shoot the ball. Unbelievable, jump shot is one
- 3:56:36of the best jump shots. I've seen come out of the draft
- 3:56:38since Klay Thompson. It's it's the release the
- 3:56:42release point and if you get played defense half as good, no,
- 3:56:45it's not until he is not. I mean he's not but that's the
- 3:56:48thing which which Charlotte though, they draft guys that
- 3:56:50don't play defense. They're not gonna be good.
- 3:56:52So they're gonna get another really high lottery pick next
- 3:56:56year. I don't know if he's worth
- 3:56:57number four. Like you're saying Errol, I
- 3:56:59agree with you that but he got paid the fort number four money.
- 3:57:02So I think it's the right movie, he can always develop while
- 3:57:04you're sitting on the bench in the NBA.
- 3:57:05If you got to come off the bench here first year, he's gonna that
- 3:57:08skill, set plays in the NBA, we all know that he can play.
- 3:57:11Halfway, decent defense. He'll be playing a long time.
- 3:57:13We got one story left. It was mentioned earlier.
- 3:57:18By when different guests, I believe here's the Eagles Super
- 3:57:22Bowl rings. Yes, it makes me sick, just to
- 3:57:25look at them, but it might be the coolest ring I've ever seen.
- 3:57:28All right, they revealed to the public 41 millimeter ring, 12
- 3:57:31carats in diamonds, and total covered in white gold, and green
- 3:57:36sapphires, our Super Bowl, jeez, what was it?
- 3:57:40Super 59 championship, ring represents the commitment.
- 3:57:43Determination and sacrifice of every member of our organization
- 3:57:47who helped deliver another world championship for Eagles fans
- 3:57:50everywhere. This is Jeffrey Lurie.
- 3:57:52If you Eagles owner and CEO from the start of training, camp,
- 3:57:57ourselves celebration on broads to our celebration on Broad
- 3:58:00Street. This team was deeply connected
- 3:58:02on every level, our players coaches in front office, staff
- 3:58:04all work, so tirelessly throughout the season to raise
- 3:58:08another Lombardi trophy on the Philadelphia Eagles.
- 3:58:10I like to thank Jason of Beverly Hills for the expertise and
- 3:58:13craftsmanship around the design of This truly magnificent ring.
- 3:58:17It will forever serve as a reminder of just how magical the
- 3:58:222024 season was for organization and fans.
- 3:58:29Errol. Dial it up.
- 3:58:32First of all, congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles while it
- 3:58:35deserved. I love that your man.
- 3:58:37Yes! Saquon Barkley is gonna earn
- 3:58:39himself. A nice, beautiful ring to shine
- 3:58:42bright and it's not gonna have a giant emblem on it.
- 3:58:45All I could say about this is I can't wait to hear Nick
- 3:58:49Sirianni. Brag about this one when he
- 3:58:51flosses and he dances and princes around the football
- 3:58:54field when the season starts and he gets handed that wonderful
- 3:58:57ring on Thursday Night Football. Well deserved.
- 3:59:00I'm so excited to see the Philadelphia you know,
- 3:59:03Philadelphia Eagles earn their rings and shine.
- 3:59:06It bright on Thursday night. The first game of this season.
- 3:59:11Congratulations. To the one and only Philadelphia
- 3:59:14Eagles. Yeah, I just got to say it's
- 3:59:16great. The fact that they got those
- 3:59:18rings that saquon came to where he truly always belongs the Penn
- 3:59:21State play. Pennsylvania boy, came back.
- 3:59:23You wanted to Philadelphia should have not with those lame
- 3:59:28ass Giants. That no one cares about the
- 3:59:30developments, really 20, you know, 15 or whatever.
- 3:59:33But you know, gamer won the championship and, you know, I
- 3:59:37love the quote there on next year out of the ring right
- 3:59:39there. You can't be great without the
- 3:59:41greatest reference to lock. My Jalen hurts too.
- 3:59:43It's really was a team win. You know, Underdog mentality
- 3:59:47from the first ring was great, but this one felt like, you
- 3:59:50know, we were really in that came together.
- 3:59:51They worked hard all year and I believe another cool.
- 3:59:54Interesting fact about the ring is, I think he said there was
- 3:59:56about 155 diamonds. Yeah.
- 3:59:58In the ring, which is about how many points.
- 4:00:01The team 12, carats 12 carats was that, Yeah.
- 4:00:06So again there's another great look at it and then you know,
- 4:00:08I'll say fish, you are lucky the Giants.
- 4:00:10Don't open the Eagles home opener.
- 4:00:12So I am kind of happy that it is Dallas.
- 4:00:14They get to watch the banner drop as the Eagles.
- 4:00:16Just receive the Rings this summer and they have to just
- 4:00:19suffer and watch because, you know, of course, the last time
- 4:00:21they won the championship, they have to watch them on VHS
- 4:00:24because they're relevant poverty franchise.
- 4:00:26Just yeah. Congratulations.
- 4:00:28You know, you you were being nice.
- 4:00:31Now, you're going after my Jets. Oh, I thought you said the Jets.
- 4:00:38Oh no, I love you again. I will say, but don't sleep on
- 4:00:51the Giants this year, man. Don't sleep on us.
- 4:00:53First of all I can't wait. You know, 10 20 years from now.
- 4:00:57How many players are going to sell that ring?
- 4:01:00Because how much that ring is going to cost on the market?
- 4:01:04When somebody is well ready to try to make, they lost so much
- 4:01:07money in bedding and gambling, and they need something to
- 4:01:11deliver to deliver for whatever their they lost over these, by
- 4:01:14the way, who's the first Eagle to sell their ring, big Dom.
- 4:01:17Oh God. No, we assume big Dom's gonna
- 4:01:20need the money first. Yeah.
- 4:01:21After he have a falling out those he's got this mafia ties I
- 4:01:26would be surprised I wouldn't be surprised if the Philadelphia
- 4:01:29Eagles give Jason Kelce a ring even though he wasn't a part of
- 4:01:32the team, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets one because
- 4:01:35he's been such an important piece to that organization.
- 4:01:38All those years, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets one.
- 4:01:40I'm just saying. So he might have and I think
- 4:01:42that's fair to say, but personally, to me, I think it's
- 4:01:45like, if you're a player, you deserve it the most and like,
- 4:01:47even though he is a great fixture and a great, you know,
- 4:01:49representation of the team and he's a great, you know,
- 4:01:52spokesman. I think it's just you keep it to
- 4:01:54the players. It's kind of more legendary.
- 4:01:56Look, he and Fletcher Cox, I'm dealing.
- 4:01:58Do you know, do you know the Waterboys and you're short?
- 4:02:01Do you know the Waterboys, they get a ring you know that.
- 4:02:04But there's a levels there's an a b and c ring dot would you get
- 4:02:10a buyer ring from your guy cam Jerkins oh yeah I mean small
- 4:02:14town Nebraska. What?
- 4:02:15What a great dude like You gotta learn behind the best, right?
- 4:02:19So Yeah no. It's it's I've never I mean I've
- 4:02:23seen where the top comes off. But like the wings coming out I
- 4:02:26mean it's pretty sweet, like, it really is like I think about my
- 4:02:32rings and I'm just like Man, our suck my these These are way
- 4:02:40better and I say we know designed them so that's why
- 4:02:43they're boring. So, oh, I feel like they always
- 4:02:47got like, like obnoxiously huge over the years.
- 4:02:50Like, you probably back more in the day.
- 4:02:52The championship rings were a little bit more to simple and
- 4:02:55design, but they've got like crazy and crazier.
- 4:02:57They've gone along. And I even thought when I first
- 4:02:59saw, I was like, wow, that's a really big ring but then it
- 4:03:01makes sense. When you see the wings pop out
- 4:03:03they probably had to design it around that too.
- 4:03:05So like okay that makes sense for the size for it but I'm like
- 4:03:08even wearing it then. I'm like I don't know how much
- 4:03:10you would want to wear because it's a big ring.
- 4:03:12It's a nice job that they have them go like all the cross.
- 4:03:16And you see how they just steady, get bigger and keeping
- 4:03:19and then there's some like, dude, that's a paperweight.
- 4:03:21That's not, like, that's not real, is it?
- 4:03:23It's like, it's like the modern day iPhone.
- 4:03:26They're just gonna get bigger and bigger until you carrying
- 4:03:28around an iPad. Oh, please enjoy it.
- 4:03:30So, Jake, you know, by the way, you seem so great, there's no
- 4:03:33chance that they're not gonna that anyone's gonna get hurt
- 4:03:36this year. And just, you know, that they
- 4:03:38may not repeat like it's a guaranteed repeat, probably
- 4:03:40undefeated season. I'll tell you, the only thing I
- 4:03:43smell is this, I smell a lot. So we call this segment.
- 4:03:47What's that smell? Somebody's called.
- 4:03:51Well what's right, you don't see that every day, my rear end is
- 4:04:00burning. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 4:04:05it's pretty simple. Everybody's gonna have a chance
- 4:04:06to pick a story that they think it smells or what it smells like
- 4:04:12or just tell me if it stinks. It's dentures and and tell us
- 4:04:15what you know I have you know Speedy has the most interesting
- 4:04:18you know combinations it gives you a story and gives you a
- 4:04:21really weird smell. So what you're gonna do is pick
- 4:04:24the story, it doesn't matter what it's about as long as it's
- 4:04:26not liberal or, you know, any other crap.
- 4:04:29That, you know, that's going on in the world.
- 4:04:30Make sure make sure that it's something with sports ladies and
- 4:04:34gentlemen. So well, we'll go, we'll go
- 4:04:36first. I don't want to say anything
- 4:04:40stupid, you know, I'm gonna go Speed Sports, I'm gonna go
- 4:04:45Speedy. Well, it could be music, it
- 4:04:46could be, you know, the world just don't go a little off track
- 4:04:49here. I'll go.
- 4:04:51Speedy goody Dan. Scoops or poops.
- 4:04:56Jabba fish me. Here we go.
- 4:05:00All right, I will start it off in college sports.
- 4:05:02So there was a report of Memphis making a 200 billion dollar deal
- 4:05:07where they wanted to become big 12 members and the Big 12
- 4:05:11decides to turn it down. According to Ross, Dellinger of
- 4:05:13Yahoo sports and the reason why it smells like it doesn't make a
- 4:05:17lot of sense for the Big 12 who's trying to claw their way
- 4:05:19back into becoming like the high with the Big Ten and the SEC,
- 4:05:23especially in an nil era. Why would you not want to seem
- 4:05:26like Memphis? That's generated.
- 4:05:27A lot of Revenue, Penny Hardaway with the basketball team has
- 4:05:30generated a lot of Revenue, some really good nil deals over
- 4:05:32there. Now, obviously, James Wiseman
- 4:05:34was investigation at the time, but still, he was getting a lot
- 4:05:37of big ones, like, why was you not want that?
- 4:05:38Kind of thing you're football. Team is been one of the better
- 4:05:41offensive teams in the country for a couple of years.
- 4:05:43They didn't pretty much in every bowl game since even when Mike
- 4:05:47Norvell left for Florida State. So I don't know why the Big 12
- 4:05:50would not want that. So what is that smell?
- 4:05:52Like, it smells like John Morant shooting a bunch of guns with
- 4:05:55rotten eggs in them all over the city of Memphis 200.
- 4:06:00Million times. 200 million fish for context.
- 4:06:06There's actually like they say that the the the gas there
- 4:06:09sometimes smells like rotten eggs.
- 4:06:10That's why you just that's a lot of run.
- 4:06:12Thanks to shoot sulfur. So sulfuric acid.
- 4:06:16All right, good one, let's see it.
- 4:06:18Mine is in the crypto world. Xrp is the native digital asset
- 4:06:23of The xrp Ledger, which is an open source decentralized
- 4:06:26technology that was launched in 2012.
- 4:06:29And I don't know how many of you guys are Krypton or not.
- 4:06:32But xrp's trading volume Rose 8% since Sunday.
- 4:06:36Evening maintaining its top five positions among layer ones.
- 4:06:40Despite a recent 4% price drop the market is outperformed.
- 4:06:45Their one category with the plus 286% weekly gains are off the
- 4:06:49charts, it joins ethereum and Dogecoin and recent Market Surge
- 4:06:53and I'm getting back into the crypto games.
- 4:06:57So if you and in it, you better get some xrp because it smells
- 4:07:00like you, boys. Fit number Tire a second time.
- 4:07:05Odell Beckham, he'll get all the stock back.
- 4:07:07That he lost his what you pay with when you steal someone's
- 4:07:10kidney out of their back and a back room dungeon is that what
- 4:07:13is that what we're talking about here?
- 4:07:14I mean if it gets the job done, that's what I'm paying with.
- 4:07:17If I need a kidney, I'm getting a kidney Bitcoin.
- 4:07:21Did you if you see any of the story again?
- 4:07:23Dave Portnoy actually pulled out a week before the the number
- 4:07:29spunk boomed. And he lost about it, he lost
- 4:07:32like millions. Millions and millions of
- 4:07:34dollars. Sure, he's gonna be just fine.
- 4:07:37I'm sure he is. All right, Danny Boy.
- 4:07:39Let's hear your. What's that smell?
- 4:07:41So not crypto. Not sports but on Saturday I am
- 4:07:47going to see Pantera play at Jones Beach.
- 4:07:49Not like I don't plugging for money but just saying I'm gonna
- 4:07:53be down the block from house and here's my question.
- 4:07:57Half the Pantera original band are dead.
- 4:08:01So can you say I'm seeing Pantera play when half the band
- 4:08:06is dead? Is it called something else?
- 4:08:11Do you say it's like after like what do you do?
- 4:08:15Whenever I don't know but like like after the original members
- 4:08:19are not there anymore, it can never be there again, it's like
- 4:08:23if Ringo Starr and, and Paul McCartney played as the Beatles,
- 4:08:26would it be the Beatles? So, my question is, when I see
- 4:08:30the show on Saturday, I'm gonna be like It like what do I do
- 4:08:37with that? Well, you don't have either of
- 4:08:39the brothers left, right? Like the positions from the
- 4:08:43band. So that is a problem that it's
- 4:08:47horrible. What happened at Skynyrd like,
- 4:08:49no one, let's go. You guys might not know this,
- 4:08:53but Dimebag Darrell was murdered on stage by.
- 4:08:56Yes. Some of the gun and you want to
- 4:08:58hear you want to hear even a crazy story.
- 4:09:00What that that week that weekend.
- 4:09:04That's what it's freezer. That's it bro.
- 4:09:06No, no that weekend in Connecticut when he was
- 4:09:09murdered. I was down the block DJing and
- 4:09:13what was oh was it? Oh I thought it was in
- 4:09:15Connecticut but well I I was in Connecticut DJ that day.
- 4:09:19So in Connecticut. So when I heard that the dude, I
- 4:09:23really like so, so what do you get a big concert over there?
- 4:09:28Half Tara's gonna smell like Dan Shit Noel's asked this.
- 4:09:37Here in the pink one. In the stink Ram, Jam On It, I
- 4:09:42shut up on your face. Can I slap your ass?
- 4:09:44That's funny. Okay, so for mine, I'm gonna be
- 4:09:48going into My Lovely Sam. I'm gonna be going over to the
- 4:09:50NFL world because the Steelers just debuted some brand new
- 4:09:54alternative uniforms. And honestly, there's not much
- 4:09:57to say about it Lulu because it's, it's straight up, dog
- 4:10:01shit. They don't look good, Scoop sits
- 4:10:03on the shiter. I'm gonna take this off for a
- 4:10:05second because I can barely hear myself but they look absolutely
- 4:10:08beautiful. They don't look good.
- 4:10:09What's the weather? I know a lot of I know the theme
- 4:10:11is to try to get a lot of orange to reach these alternative
- 4:10:14jerseys for certain teams but the Chargers came out with one
- 4:10:18the Patriots a little while ago, I feel like those weren't as
- 4:10:21iconic as you know, the killer bee, Stealers alternative
- 4:10:24uniforms, you know, I could just remember so many times, we can
- 4:10:26weak out seeing Big Ben and all those guys are Steelers, guys on
- 4:10:30old football, Sunday going, get those wins.
- 4:10:31And now it's gonna be in some ugly.
- 4:10:33They look like a bus, I don't know.
- 4:10:35They look like a school bus and the short bus kind.
- 4:10:37Not the long bus but what does it smell like?
- 4:10:39It smells. It smells like some rotten
- 4:10:44Ayahuasca that's been crammed up Mike tomlin's ass.
- 4:10:47So there we go. That's called sex.
- 4:10:49Yeah. Look at those jerseys.
- 4:10:52Not so horrible. I kind of look like, I don't
- 4:10:55know what they look like. If you're playing lacrosse, it's
- 4:11:01not bad. They don't look like you're
- 4:11:03playing football whatsoever. Premier League soccer.
- 4:11:06I was, I don't know what team it is.
- 4:11:07There's a team that literally just a soccer team.
- 4:11:09I look so big donuts over there. Yeah.
- 4:11:13Have you ever seen the fuck it out of fisherman?
- 4:11:16Jersey, I don't think I'm gonna argue this makes my pecker hard,
- 4:11:23pulled it out of my ass. I, I got a highlight to share
- 4:11:27with my what's that smell? My watch that smell happens to
- 4:11:31go to Yankees your vit Vivas who was gunned down going to Third
- 4:11:37Base by Ronald Acuna Jr. Flat-footed from the corner and
- 4:11:41right Fields. He doesn't even slide into third
- 4:11:45base, he's deeply in football. It's true with third baseman on
- 4:11:50cutoff throws late hands. Don't show that you're going for
- 4:11:53the ball until the very end and you can make that tag viviz.
- 4:11:57Got tagged out Aaron Boone, a third baseman, most of his
- 4:11:59career said he used to do that to people every single game and
- 4:12:03he would try to get that to happen.
- 4:12:05He actually the US, get the funk and guess what?
- 4:12:08Bun didn't even bench him for it.
- 4:12:10I'm putting you on a leash. You know, just keeping that
- 4:12:13culture. Well, what is it?
- 4:12:14What is it smell like? Well, I'm going to go to Las
- 4:12:17Vegas because it reminds me of Viva Las Vegas, but this is Viva
- 4:12:22La Scranton and whatever, crappy food they have theirs.
- 4:12:26Probably gonna smell like the shit of Elvis when he used when
- 4:12:30he died the day. Eating a lot of ladies.
- 4:12:34Faking sandwiches, on the time I farted, you want to drive lost.
- 4:12:38Granted Glory banana and Elvis Presley having a heart attack.
- 4:12:45Yeah, you need a peanut butter and banana bacon sandwich.
- 4:12:48I was Flick it and stick it, the king died on his throne.
- 4:12:53All right job. mine is on the baseball side and we kind of
- 4:13:00touched on this with betting early on this year, and So it
- 4:13:05was Pat hoberg who is a 38 year old umpire in Major League
- 4:13:08Baseball. Supposedly had a joint gambling
- 4:13:12account when it went legal in Iowa in 2019.
- 4:13:18And the there was no evidence that he had ever used the
- 4:13:22account. His buddy was a poker player and
- 4:13:25newy Gamble, and they shared an account and they appealed and
- 4:13:29they peeled it and our Gradle commissioner was like, no.
- 4:13:35The appeals are dropped. We fired June.
- 4:13:37He was, he was actually one of my favorite.
- 4:13:38She was great. He had actually talked to you
- 4:13:40and not be a dick. But yeah, I think it's
- 4:13:43unbelievable. It wasn't even his account
- 4:13:45doesn't even they have no. Evidence that he even bet on it
- 4:13:50is just him in his buddy and so I think it's smells like man
- 4:13:54free. Where's the song and puts Icy
- 4:13:57Hot and then takes a poop and rubs on his face so you can see
- 4:14:00what it smells like. Job.
- 4:14:02Good question. Ohtani his interpreter.
- 4:14:06That's a bullshit. A tiny bit.
- 4:14:09So beautiful. And his serpent is taking the
- 4:14:13fall for it. What's your thoughts on that?
- 4:14:16No Tony's. The best player in baseball.
- 4:14:18Yeah. Other boldest white guy in
- 4:14:23America. But but It's like, I feel kind
- 4:14:26of betting on sports and he's blaming his interpreter.
- 4:14:29And I, I feel no evidence. Go to casino and find Asians,
- 4:14:36plenty of evidence, like that, or are you happy to see me?
- 4:14:40I'm not saying that. I understand where you're coming
- 4:14:44from, bro, but we don't know. But Nobody will ever know you
- 4:14:50can say, you know, but you won't.
- 4:14:52Sure do. But how do you know, 100%, how
- 4:14:56do you know, 100 is looking to build a casino next to Steve,
- 4:15:03Cohen's field is a fuk going to beans Little Korea, Little
- 4:15:07China. Let's just Field of what else my
- 4:15:15dog wants your pussycat. All right.
- 4:15:17So damn. Basically, we have to warn code.
- 4:15:18I sent it to not start betting please.
- 4:15:19I need a Blow Pop. Like yo, I've been extended for,
- 4:15:26I'm sure you have well, oh, what is the casinos?
- 4:15:29And you that's that's really interesting.
- 4:15:35Sometimes you just miss play 17 million.
- 4:15:36He takes himself. Yeah, sometimes you do if you
- 4:15:40what All right, ladies and gentlemen, the final.
- 4:15:46What's that smell? Well, I'm gonna go to NFL
- 4:15:49conversation as anybody checked out the Netflix quarterback part
- 4:15:55two season, two, ladies and gentlemen.
- 4:15:57Well, it was built on three, quarterbacks Kirk Cousins again,
- 4:16:02Joe burrow and Jared Goff. And the story that really stuck
- 4:16:07out to me, I watched the whole season and we'll talk about it
- 4:16:10on on Wednesday Jericho, came out and took shots at Sean McVay
- 4:16:15and said that, Sean McVay when the trade happened, when he was
- 4:16:18traded to the Lions. He said, that Sean McVay didn't
- 4:16:21even go up to him. He didn't even speak to him
- 4:16:23about. It didn't reach out to him.
- 4:16:24He just pretty much said, you're getting traded to the Detroit
- 4:16:27Lions and Jared Goff said that to me it was just there was no
- 4:16:31respect their, you know, I was your starting quarterback, I
- 4:16:34took you to the Super Bowl and then you just, you didn't even
- 4:16:37sit down, you didn't even have a conversation and give me a whole
- 4:16:39rundown on why you're doing it. He was hurt.
- 4:16:42And obviously, That's why the lion fans we there they cheer
- 4:16:46for Jared Goff and obviously they have those tears every
- 4:16:50single time they play the, the LA Rams, because they want to
- 4:16:55stick it to the Rams on what they have in Jared Goff.
- 4:16:58So, you know what? It smells like, oh, it smells
- 4:17:00like Sean McVay. You know, putting his head up,
- 4:17:02his wonderful beautiful wife's ass and, you know, pulling, you
- 4:17:06know, daisies out of his own ass while he's doing it.
- 4:17:09So, there you go. So that's what it smells like.
- 4:17:12I mean it, I've seen show me phase wife.
- 4:17:15She is wonderful sexy. Any ideas I'm telling you, I go
- 4:17:22check it out. She is so hot.
- 4:17:24She's like, one of the hottest like wives out there so it's
- 4:17:28definitely something to look at if you've never seen Sean
- 4:17:30mcvay's woman, so look it up. She's sexy as hell, man.
- 4:17:35And Sean, mcvay's wife. I'd stick my head up our ass.
- 4:17:37There's no doubt about it. I just wouldn't be pulling
- 4:17:40daisies out of mine, but yeah, so Jerry goslee know it's not
- 4:17:45anybody's name, maybe it's, maybe you've been sticking
- 4:17:48yourself your head up. Somebody's, you know, ask maybe
- 4:17:51fishes ass. I don't know somebody, somebody
- 4:17:53that's not like, you know, fish, you get it fish Speedy.
- 4:17:58You know what I'm talking about. It's the one that I'm tired.
- 4:18:04That's the one I want to stick his head up, Sean, mcveigh's
- 4:18:06wife's ass. I'll let you lick my butt.
- 4:18:09And then once I thought that was Matt, liner's wife at her and
- 4:18:14who's the other? Oh, Do go.
- 4:18:20Look at her body. Go look at it.
- 4:18:22Hello, I love Goodyear Jared gospel.
- 4:18:25I love him with his pecker, dude.
- 4:18:27I'm telling you go look at Sean. Mcvay's wife, go.
- 4:18:29Look at our swimsuit and everything.
- 4:18:30She's hot, man. All right, that's a folk show,
- 4:18:33but she's, but I prefer goody with the.
- 4:18:35I have a phone now, for hot chicks, but not for AI.
- 4:18:39Look up sports, that he takes himself.
- 4:18:42All right, don't worry. There's enough Larry centers,
- 4:18:45terrible reference. So we go.
- 4:18:46I'm a little tired, where a little bit overboard here.
- 4:18:50Ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank Danny for joining us.
- 4:18:53I like to thank our guests because they were Sensational
- 4:18:56every single one of them. Obviously, the one and only
- 4:18:58Jamie winbourne. He joining us in his car as a
- 4:19:02lot of NFL players like to do. Matt, O'Leary fantastic.
- 4:19:05Thank you, Matt. For joining us.
- 4:19:06Talking little Jets and Islanders hockey.
- 4:19:09So I love Matt, thank you to Matt.
- 4:19:11Thank you to all the fans tuning into us and, and downloading a
- 4:19:15show on Apple and Spotify audio over 130,000.
- 4:19:20Over the last, I would say the last month, thank you to all the
- 4:19:24tiktok Instagram, Facebook all the different sectors.
- 4:19:29YouTube Spotify, apple video all the guys, all the girls, all the
- 4:19:34gals following us on all the social media markets, and, and
- 4:19:37all the different platforms that were on Odyssey, too, Odyssey.
- 4:19:40We're doing pretty well, too. I just want to give a shout out
- 4:19:42to them and odyssey, letting us Post our show on their network.
- 4:19:45Uh yeah, we'll be back on Wednesday Speedo.
- 4:19:48Do we have on? All right, joining us away
- 4:19:50again, for the first time in a couple years 8:45 will be our
- 4:19:52friend up a shop Breeland, former commanders Chiefs Vikings
- 4:19:55cornerback at a 45 and then, two be determined on time is our
- 4:19:58friend, Mr. Jim Miller, I want to say something Bashaud
- 4:20:02Breeland. The last time he was on his
- 4:20:03show, I had to get a lot out of him, and it took a while to get
- 4:20:07him open. And then two weeks after we
- 4:20:09interviewed him, he was arrested for play.
- 4:20:12Well, what did he write? Jeff told us at the time, he got
- 4:20:15some kind of drug around. He got a drug arrest, he had
- 4:20:19like a machine gun. He was caught with a machine gun
- 4:20:21and and I we read the story. It was absolutely crazy.
- 4:20:24And Breeland was fantastic on the show.
- 4:20:27I remember, I remember that was at the time, the giant seen a
- 4:20:29lot of Corners. I was trying to recruit him to
- 4:20:31come to the giant. Yeah.
- 4:20:32So that he burstiq we had on like what?
- 4:20:35The perfect for the Giants because yeah time.
- 4:20:36Yes, no. You know why it would have been
- 4:20:38perfect because you had another guy that, you know, had a dead
- 4:20:41body in his basement because of his good old chakra.
- 4:20:44Yeah, the jackrabbit. Remember that story?
- 4:20:46He had a couple of good years. He was pretty good in coverage.
- 4:20:52Yeah. So was I cover ups?
- 4:20:55Apparently, I said he was good. His brother raped, the dead body
- 4:21:00in his basement and put it in the corner.
- 4:21:01Nobody saw it. Nobody saw it.
- 4:21:03Dead body in the corner for things happen.
- 4:21:05I'm sure it does. He was definitely jumping over
- 4:21:08it. If you know what I mean.
- 4:21:09Yeah, hiding. A dead body for a week or two
- 4:21:14and his basement. How do you not?
- 4:21:15Yeah, I figure anyways. Thank you.
- 4:21:20All the fans. And again, we'll be back on
- 4:21:21Wednesday. It was a great job.
- 4:21:22Speedy, you have anything, you have anything.
- 4:21:25Give us a funny. Funny, funny.
- 4:21:27Go goody goody he's wrapping up but maybe that he just
- 4:21:33something. No, because you gibbering and
- 4:21:35jabber good. Are you sure that dead body
- 4:21:36wasn't Eli Apple's Giants career, as long as she doesn't
- 4:21:40do? What taken care of my two hole.
- 4:21:42I'm good. All right.
- 4:21:42Good night, farewell. We're gone.
- 4:21:44It's the worldwide sports radio network.
- 4:21:49This makes my pecker hard.