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What's Your Favorite Dinosaur? · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Okay, you bozos out there, this is Stephen Chiodo, and
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  Speaker 3: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million.
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  Speaker 2: Kilowatts of power. When I was a kid, when I
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  Speaker 2: was a little boy, I always wanted to be a dinosaur.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to be a Tyrannosaurus Rex more than anything
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  Speaker 2: in the world.
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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I am Brian.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Norris.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Phillip.
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  Speaker 1: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 1: the Kitty Corral. to discuss the most important thing in
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  Speaker 1: the world dinosaurs dinosaurs now i know i posted earlier
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  Speaker 1: i think this year because it it happened i saw
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  Speaker 1: the meme and then it happened in the real world
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  Speaker 1: in a different way which rarely happens because usually memes
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  Speaker 1: run everything they're in charge of our lives now but
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  Speaker 1: there's one that came up that it's some i've seen
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  Speaker 1: a couple variations i feel like but it says to
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  Speaker 1: some extent whatever i'm paraphrasing when you grow up no
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  Speaker 1: one even asks you what your favorite dinosaur is it's
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  Speaker 1: like they don't even care i know and then within
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  Speaker 1: like a day of seeing that i'm this wasn't it
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  Speaker 1: was even weirder that it was a random person did
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  Speaker 1: not know them it was some weird thing online that
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  Speaker 1: i ended up talking to somebody and i haven't really
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  Speaker 1: talked to him since but like out of the blue
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  Speaker 1: they went Hey, what's your favorite dinosaur? And I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: good question. And you've thrown off the whole thing. So
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  Speaker 1: there is no scale anymore. That's not true. Obviously, the
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  Speaker 1: cool people will ask you, what's your favorite dinosaur? So
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was sort of the theme for all
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  Speaker 1: of this, really. So we can get to that for ours.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably going to take a while because we also
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  Speaker 1: want to think of dinosaurs in movies. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lot to process. So we're going to take
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  Speaker 1: a while. We're going to consider what our favorite dinosaurs
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  Speaker 1: in movies are and favorite dinosaurs in general, all of
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  Speaker 1: these things. So in the meantime, I also recently sat
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  Speaker 1: down and talked with Don Lessom, which, I mean, his
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  Speaker 1: name is Dino Don. So if that's your nickname, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to be like the coolest guy ever, right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean. And kind of, you know, an authority on dinosaurs, maybe.
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  Speaker 5: I would hope so.
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  Speaker 1: Possibly. Well, to put it in perspective, was he a
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  Speaker 1: consultant for Michael Crichton? Yes. Yes, he was. Did Steven
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  Speaker 1: Spielberg ask him to be involved in Jurassic Park?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And did he go on after all of that to
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  Speaker 1: build full-size robotic dinosaurs?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes to all three of those.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 1: Can you get much cooler? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 5: Not really.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's enough of my intro. I'm just going
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  Speaker 1: to let him tell you about all of it. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: while we think of our favorite dinosaurs, you guys listen
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  Speaker 1: to me talking to Don Lesson. Well, normally I start
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  Speaker 1: like at the beginning with people and performers and stuff
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  Speaker 1: and see like where they grew up and how they
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  Speaker 1: got involved in stuff as kids. Yours is different just because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if it's like the arts or sports or
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  Speaker 1: what kids are into, every kid likes dinosaurs. So, like,
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  Speaker 1: were you already that kid that was just like dinosaurs
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  Speaker 1: are awesome or did it find you later in life?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Both.
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  Speaker 2: Both. I did the normal thing, which is be obsessed
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  Speaker 2: from three to eight. And I lived in New York,
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  Speaker 2: so I got to go to the greatest collection of fossils.
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  Speaker 2: I had a great aunt who took me every Sunday
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  Speaker 2: to meet T.
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  Speaker 1: Rex.
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  Speaker 2: And it was like love at first sight, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I used to give tours. Nobody asked me to.
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  Speaker 2: So it was already a show off when I was five. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I loved them until I was eight. And
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  Speaker 2: in those days, we'll get back to it. But the
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  Speaker 2: big influence then was there wasn't a lot of dinosaur
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  Speaker 2: stuff out there. So the books, there were a couple
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  Speaker 2: of books like The Golden Age of Dinosaurs written by
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  Speaker 2: a guy who turned out to be the real Indiana Jones,
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  Speaker 2: Roy Chapman Andrews, who explored in Mongolia in the 1920s.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I read. And I thought, oh, when I
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  Speaker 2: grow up, I'm going to go out and do this.
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  Speaker 2: And then, of course, other things came along like girls
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  Speaker 2: and baseball. And I didn't even think about dinosaurs. I
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  Speaker 2: studied gorillas. And I didn't want to be a scientist
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  Speaker 2: because the work was too hard. And it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: every five minutes, gorilla scratches butt. Gorilla scratches butt. I
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  Speaker 2: can't do this. So I thought, okay, I really like
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  Speaker 2: what these guys produce as research. So I'll be the middleman.
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  Speaker 2: They can't talk to the public because they're scientists. And
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  Speaker 2: that'll be my job. So I got a job as
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  Speaker 2: a reporter. And I worked for the Boston Globe. and
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  Speaker 2: the editor of the magazine section when they said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: these two dinosaur scientists are on TV all the time
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  Speaker 2: and they look insane. And they were. So why don't
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  Speaker 2: you go hang out with them and write a story
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  Speaker 2: about them? So I said, sure. So I went out
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  Speaker 2: to Montana and Utah and I thought, whoa, this is
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  Speaker 2: way cooler than being a reporter. And I just, different
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  Speaker 2: things about dinosaurs impressed me as a grownup than as
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  Speaker 2: a kid. As a kid, it was the size of
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  Speaker 2: the animals themselves and the ability when you had a
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  Speaker 2: little to really feel like you're in the world of dinosaurs. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: like everybody else, I lose that as a grown-up. But
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  Speaker 2: the expedition, the scavenger hunt for pieces of a thing
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  Speaker 2: that no one has ever seen before, and these guys
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  Speaker 2: who can read an ancient landscape from a desert that
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  Speaker 2: you're in and be able to envisage what it was
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  Speaker 2: actually like 65 million years ago, that was fascinating to me.
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  Speaker 2: And then, of course, the guys are crazy, so that
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  Speaker 2: was fun too. Food is terrible and the weather is awful,
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  Speaker 2: but I love being in the exotic places too. So
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  Speaker 2: everything about it really appealed to me. And I thought
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  Speaker 2: I had a fellowship, mid-career fellowship that exists for journalists,
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  Speaker 2: different subjects. There's one at MIT for science. And so
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  Speaker 2: I had a year off paid. So I thought I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to go to every dinosaur dig in the world.
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  Speaker 2: And it turns out there's only like 35 people in
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  Speaker 2: the world who dig dinosaurs. So you could do that.
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  Speaker 2: So that's how I got started working with the real thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought there's so much going on in the
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  Speaker 2: science that people don't know that I can write a
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  Speaker 2: book about it, which I did, and about 12 people read.
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  Speaker 2: And I realized, oh, I should be writing for kids.
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  Speaker 2: But that's how I got started.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, going from journalism, I mean, do you
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  Speaker 1: have to invest official schooling time, or did you just
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  Speaker 1: hands-on jump into dino digs and learn there?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I never pretend to be a paleontologist, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't publish scientific papers, so I'm still a popularizer, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like low-budget David Attenborough kind. So just in different media
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  Speaker 2: over time, and I have a kind of ADD personality.
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  Speaker 2: So every five years I would do something different, but
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  Speaker 2: always with dinosaurs. So movies, TV, books, uh, now I'm
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  Speaker 2: doing VR and the last five years with robots. So
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  Speaker 2: different things, but, uh, you know, you can learn about
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  Speaker 2: dinosaurs a fair amount just by reading and by being present.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like brain surgery, you know, uh, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: qualified to do either, but it's a lot easier. It's
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  Speaker 2: a lot easier to, to dig a dinosaur. It's a
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  Speaker 2: very 19th century kind of technology still. Dig a hole
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  Speaker 2: and get things.
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  Speaker 6: Out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Brain surgery is a lot to deal with. Dinosaurs have
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  Speaker 1: been dead for a while, so you don't have to
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  Speaker 1: worry about it.
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  Speaker 2: No, but I always thought it would be cool to
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  Speaker 2: write a book about a mystery where you dug a
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  Speaker 2: hole for dinosaurs, but you found a dead guy from
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  Speaker 2: like 100 years ago. Then you had to discern the mystery.
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  Speaker 1: That has to have happened at some point, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we've been burying dead bodies around this country for years.
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  Speaker 2: I know. Maybe Jimmy Hoffa is in it.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: With a dinosaur somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Hoffa was a dinosaur. That's the revelation we've come across.
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  Speaker 1: So you've gotten to the point of at least being
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  Speaker 1: notable as somebody who kind of knows what they're doing
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  Speaker 1: enough that before we even get to the movie part
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  Speaker 1: of it, Michael Crichton came to you?
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  Speaker 2: A little bit the opposite.
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  Speaker 1: You were hanging out at his house.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just waiting outside. So he, I read
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  Speaker 2: in one of the sort of advanced publications of books,
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  Speaker 2: I was doing book reviews at the Boston Globe, and
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  Speaker 2: I read Oh, this guy, you know, popular author is
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  Speaker 2: doing a book on dinosaurs. Oh, I should meet him. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, his publicist was happy for him to talk
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  Speaker 2: to the newspaper. So I interviewed him about the book.
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  Speaker 2: And he was a very brilliant, likable guy. And I
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  Speaker 2: told him about the charity he was starting for dinosaur
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  Speaker 2: research because I go on all these digs and these
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  Speaker 2: guys had no money at all. And yet there's all
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  Speaker 2: this money made out of popularizing what the researchers they did.
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  Speaker 2: So it just seemed unfair to me. and I knew
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  Speaker 2: nothing about the charity and he said you know nothing
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  Speaker 2: about a charity and let me help you and he
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  Speaker 2: said well first I'll give you a little money which
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  Speaker 2: was very nice and then he said I'll introduce you
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  Speaker 2: to this little guy with a lot of money Spielberg
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  Speaker 2: so I said sure and I didn't actually think about
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  Speaker 2: it for a while I knew they were making the
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  Speaker 2: movie And then like the third assistant producer called me
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  Speaker 2: up one day and said, where do I get Amber?
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  Speaker 2: We want to put it in the cane. Where do
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  Speaker 2: I get it? So I called some guys in Dominican
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  Speaker 2: Republic and found some Amber.
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  Speaker 1: Let me get my Amber guy.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on. Amber guy. I find the Amber guy. And
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  Speaker 2: then I just kept getting questions like this. And so
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  Speaker 2: the involvement in the movie came along kind of slowly,
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  Speaker 2: accidentally like that. And I was really the secondary person,
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  Speaker 2: the number one person. The character in the movie is
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  Speaker 2: loosely based on is Jack Horner, a paleontologist who was
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  Speaker 2: at the museum of the Rockies who, They changed completely
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  Speaker 2: because he loved kids and hated adults. In the movie,
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  Speaker 2: the guy hates kids and loves grownups. And then I
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  Speaker 2: started getting calls like Sam Neill, the guy who plays
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  Speaker 2: Alan Grant. So he calls up and he said, I
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  Speaker 2: heard you're the guy I'm supposed to talk to. I said,
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  Speaker 2: what can I help you with? He said, well, I
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  Speaker 2: want some VHS tapes of David Attenborough. I said, why?
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  Speaker 2: You're playing a guy from Montana who doesn't really speak.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I didn't ask your opinion. Welcome to Hollywood.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So what came out of that experience was at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the movie, I said, can I have all
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  Speaker 2: the sets and props and the dinosaurs? Because no one's
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  Speaker 2: listening to me. And this is not accurate about dinosaurs.
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  Speaker 2: And we can raise a lot of money for charity.
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  Speaker 2: And Spielberg is a good guy. He said, sure. And
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  Speaker 2: Universal is afraid of Spielberg. So they said, sure. And
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  Speaker 2: we gave Universal a 20% royalty on the exhibit, which
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  Speaker 2: they had to then give to the research. So they
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  Speaker 2: got a tax break. We got $ 3 million for research,
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  Speaker 2: and I got into the museum exhibit business, which really
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  Speaker 2: fascinated me a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Which, I mean, just kind of working with Spielberg, what
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  Speaker 1: was that? Because at that point, I mean, he was
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  Speaker 1: already such a huge name. Post-Jaws, like everything he did
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  Speaker 1: after that was huge. So being, you know, one of
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  Speaker 1: the few directors that a normal person on the street
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  Speaker 1: could name, like, he's kind of huge in the industry.
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  Speaker 1: So just kind of being thrown in there with him,
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  Speaker 1: what was that like?
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  Speaker 2: Well, for me, it was fun. You know, Crichton actually
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  Speaker 2: said it. because he directed some movies and he hated
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  Speaker 2: the actors, so he stopped directing. But he said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the first day on the set is the most interesting
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  Speaker 2: thing in the world. The second day is the most
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  Speaker 2: boring and it stays the most boring because they do
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. You know, they might do a hundred takes,
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  Speaker 2: but it was fascinating to first see. And I joined
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  Speaker 2: the excavation, the fake excavation in Montana, which was really
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  Speaker 2: in the Mojave Desert in California. And the first impression
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  Speaker 2: I had before I even met Spielberg was this is
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  Speaker 2: so bizarre because, you couldn't dig a hole in a
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  Speaker 2: national park. So they made a fake rise with a
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  Speaker 2: fake hole in it to put the fake dinosaurs in
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  Speaker 2: to have the fake scientists dig. And then, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: sitting way back with a hundred people, you know, Spielberg's
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  Speaker 2: way up in the front of his director's chair. And
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  Speaker 2: I said to the third associate producer I was with,
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  Speaker 2: this is wrong. You know, these guys are wearing like
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  Speaker 2: buttoned down shirts. People on digs, they haven't had a
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  Speaker 2: bath in two weeks. They should be wearing dirty t-shirts.
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  Speaker 2: And she said, oh yeah, I don't know where to
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  Speaker 2: get them. I said, I have a suitcase full of
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  Speaker 2: dirty t-shirts. So that was one of my big contributions
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  Speaker 2: to the movie. And then Laura Dern, if you remember
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  Speaker 2: the movie, there's a scene where a guy on the
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  Speaker 2: dig is looking at a screen and he's able to
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  Speaker 2: see the fossil in the ground. Unfortunately, no such thing exists.
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  Speaker 2: It would be great if it did. And she was saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: it took a million years for the tail to curl
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  Speaker 2: up like this. Actually, it takes about two hours because
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  Speaker 2: you get rigor mortis just like a person. But in
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  Speaker 2: their case, the tail bends back. So I said to
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  Speaker 2: the third assistant, this is wrong. So she went, it
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  Speaker 2: was like a Merrill Lynch commercial. She went to the
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  Speaker 2: second to the first. So we finally got to Spielberg
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  Speaker 2: and he said, who said that? I said, ah, shit.
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  Speaker 2: I just got here and I haven't had lunch yet
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to get thrown out. And he said,
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  Speaker 2: come up here. We'll rewrite the line. So then we
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  Speaker 2: got to talking and I think actually he enjoyed talking
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  Speaker 2: to somebody who didn't want something from him. By this point,
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  Speaker 2: as you say, he was such a big deal that
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  Speaker 2: the movie set is filled with suck ups. You know,
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  Speaker 2: and they all want to get in his face and
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  Speaker 2: get promoted so they can be the second assistant director
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  Speaker 2: the next time. So, you know, he's just tormented by this.
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  Speaker 2: So I just sat there and he would come over
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  Speaker 2: and talk about, you know, could ET happen or stuff,
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  Speaker 2: you know, hydroponics on Mars, anything that interested him. And
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  Speaker 2: he was a very nice guy and amazing to watch
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  Speaker 2: because obviously he knows what he's doing. And at this point,
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  Speaker 2: there was 100 people on the set working Yeah. He's
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  Speaker 2: got electricians who are lighting the desert in daytime that
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  Speaker 2: he has to bark orders to. He's got actors he
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  Speaker 2: has to coddle. He's got kid actors who he's really
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  Speaker 2: genuinely nice to because he had young kids. He's running
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  Speaker 2: the camera himself because he wanted shots. I guess they
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  Speaker 2: don't advertise that. And then he's controlling, too, all the
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  Speaker 2: PR who has access to take pictures of the dinosaurs.
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  Speaker 2: If you come on the wrong day, he told Good
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  Speaker 2: Morning America they have to get lost because they came
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  Speaker 2: a day early. So, I mean... he's directing everything and,
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  Speaker 2: and being at the same time, having to deal with
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  Speaker 2: the studio and be tough with them. So it was,
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  Speaker 2: it was quite impressive. And he's not a guy with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of formal schooling. Um, and I said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: trying in my own way to suck up, actually, um,
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  Speaker 2: I'll name a dinosaur after you because I know lots
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  Speaker 2: of scientists, you know, I thought that would appeal to him,
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  Speaker 2: but he did not egotistical that way. He said, nah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. But what he did say was, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we have a rap party at the end where,
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  Speaker 2: The actors usually get a car or something. They don't
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  Speaker 2: need cars. Let's name a dinosaur after them, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: give money to the scientist, and we'll give them a
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  Speaker 2: bronze plaque instead. It was like, eh. And so we
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  Speaker 2: named an armored dinosaur from China, Gerasosaurus. And then the
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  Speaker 2: species name, like T. rex, was Nettigoa perforcumorum. Rolls off
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  Speaker 2: your tongue because N-E for Sam Neill, D-E for Laura Dern,
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  Speaker 2: G-O for Goldblum, A for Hattinborough. Anyway, down the list.
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  Speaker 2: So that mouthful. So they all came to the party.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't there. Instead of getting in their cars, they
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  Speaker 2: got a bronze plaque. I'm sure they were pissed as hell.
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  Speaker 2: But I thought that was very cool that he did that.
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  Speaker 1: There should definitely be a Jeff Goblum-asaurus out there.
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  Speaker 2: And he was wonderful. He was exactly, as you would think,
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  Speaker 2: insane and very nice. And all the suck-ups were mad
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  Speaker 2: at me because I was talking to the director. So
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  Speaker 2: they said, you know, after this movie's over, you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to see Steven again. Yeah, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: Not normally how it happens, really.
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  Speaker 2: And they were wrong because when they were doing the ride,
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  Speaker 2: I worked on the ride too for Jurassic Park. So
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: he came to the opening of the ride and I
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: was at the urinal and he pulls up right next
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: to me. So we renewed our acquaintance. So yes, we've
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: kept up. That was it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Well then, I mean, again, that became certainly such a franchise.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Did they approach you for any of the sequels or
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: now the Jurassic World and all of that stuff? Or
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: was it just kind of that first one and you
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: were kind of done?
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: The first one was kind of done because I was
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: a little bit tied to Crichton. He worked on the
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: second one. I worked on promoting it and on the
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: toy line. That was kind of interesting. But I didn't
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: get along with the screenwriter. And I really don't think
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: they're very well-written movies, even the first one. I mean,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: it's great special effects. I had great appreciation of dinosaurs.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: At one point, I went to one of the producers,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Patrick Crowley, and he's still producing the latest one. And
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: he was the rudest human being I ever met in
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: my life. So, a friend of mine who's a director
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: had arranged the meeting. I go over to his office
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: and he said, what do you want? I said, well,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: we arranged to meet. What are you so hostile for?
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: He said, I'm busy. I said, well, I came all
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: this way. He said, what do you want? So I said, well,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: could you infuse this shitty sequels? I didn't say that,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: but the sequels with some of the appreciation, the reverence
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: for dinosaurs, instead of just making them into be monsters,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: he said, get out of my office. Nice.
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: Nice.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: So I had, I had, I had a lot of
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: sets of props still from the movie, And I had
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: a head of a velociraptor and I brought it with
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: me to give him as present. And I left it there.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: And then I got a call later from Kathy Kennedy,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: who was Spielberg's friend, who was a direct producer and
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: worked on ET and stuff. She said, you know, the
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: head that you left in his office was infested with
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: wasps and all the wasps escaped into his office. I said, yes.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Your trap worked.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: My evil plan. So no, no connection to them. I
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: worked on the Disney dinosaur movie and that's really it
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: for Hollywood until lately. About three years ago, two years ago,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: a guy calls me and says, I was in your
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: daughter's fourth grade class.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: That's how the real connections are made.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I'm 42 years old or whatever. He said, you helped
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: me with my dinosaur paper. And I said, well, yeah,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: a little late. He said, no, I worked for Spielberg
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: and we're making a dinosaur movie, all dinosaurs. And I
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: know you were frustrated because you came along. It's too
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: late in the day to really influence the dinosaurs, which
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: are so inaccurate. why don't you work on this one?
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And it's just starting. I said, oh, what's the story?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: He said, we don't have one. Why don't you work
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: with the writer? And the writer is the guy who
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: wrote A Jungle Book, the movie, and he wrote Top
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Gun and Shogun, so big cheese writer. So I worked
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: with him. We had some phone calls and I contributed
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: maybe 1% to the story. He wrote and got it
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: in just before the writer's strike. And it was a
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: really good script, but because It was Universal, and Universal
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: does Spielberg's ambulance films. They tabled it in favor of
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: all these Jurassic Park sequels. And unfortunately, the new movie
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: made a lot of money. They did make a lot
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: of money. They're going to make Jurassic Park 57. And
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I hope this thing doesn't stay on the shelf all
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: the time because it's a really good story just with dinosaurs.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: It would have really cool animation, very accurate dinosaurs. But
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: that would be a Spielberg-produced movie but not directed by him. Yeah, yeah.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Well, and then I know you've, like you said, you've
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: had some issues with inaccuracies and stuff. So how does
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: that factor into, I guess, even just watching other things?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Because that's what I was thinking. I've loved so many
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: cheesy dinosaur movies over the years that I'm like, can
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you watch those? Or are there certain ones that you
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: know are so wrong, but you still kind of enjoy
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: them for the fun of it? Oh, yeah.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love Valley of the Gwangi, which was
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: like an iguana dressed as a dinosaur.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I love those.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a riot. And I'm not such a stickler, but.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: When you could do it right, I see no reason
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: not to.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Especially now when you have budgets like these.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And so when I worked on the Disney cartoon movie,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: they had dinosaurs from all different time periods. I said,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: why don't you put them all, just take a group
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: of dinosaurs that live at the same time. He said, no,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: we're Disney. I said, and do you have to kill
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: off the mother in the beginning of the movie like
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: you do every single one of your movies?
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: We're Disney.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: He said, yes, we're Disney. Exactly. This is what we do.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: We traumatize children. So they just went ahead and did
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: whatever they wanted. But, you know, if you made an
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: accurate movie about dinosaurs, a really accurate movie, it'd be
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: the most boring thing in the world. T-Rex would miss
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: nine times out of ten. The other guys would be
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: going to the bathroom all the time. It just would
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: be terrible. So I understand. But, yes, if they're depicting
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: them in any way, this is more a case when
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you do kids' books or, you know, there's some scientific article.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Then you want to get the illustration right. Yeah.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, just why teach people wrong? If it's just
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: entertainment purposes, it's a little different. But yeah, especially kids'
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: books like that. You would want to get it right.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: So I'd written this grown-up book, and then I looked
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: around at the kids' books, and they were so bad
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: then because it was written by a librarian who read
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the book that was in the library. So it was
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: like three sets of books, which was wrong 20 years
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: before that. So I wrote this thing in the New
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: York Times book review section about what's wrong with this,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you know, up on a soapbox. And of course, nobody
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: could care. So then I realized, I'm talking to myself.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: So then I started writing kids' books on what was
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: really happening with the science and using good illustrators and stuff.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: So that was fun for a while to do that. But,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: you know, I realized that I hate to be on
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: a soapbox, but that, you know, we find as grown-ups,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I think, that there's still pretty interesting dinosaurs, but If
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you're three days, this is the most important thing in
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: your life. As it should be. Yeah, as it should be.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: And I envy them how much they can immerse themselves
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: in it. So this is the way we complain about
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: how they're not interested in science. They're interested in science.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: So use the dinosaurs as the gateway to making kids
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: science literate. So I kind of feel like that's the
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: most important thing to do in this field.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: That is one of those things that, especially as I've
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: gotten older, it is amazing that it just never changes.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I remember having those same little plastic bag of dinosaurs.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: They're still selling the same mold and everything. I'm just
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: like little kids 50 years later doing the exact same thing.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: We think of it as grown-ups. We think everything has
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: to be a fad. Oh, there's another dinosaur fad. No,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: you're right. It's constant. We just didn't supply them the product.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: At one point when toy companies used to buy television.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: They could buy a half hour. I forgot what they
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: were called. They were dinosaur men. They were up on dinosaurs.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I definitely remember this.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: They were like ant men or something.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I think I have some version of them in a
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: box somewhere now.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So like Mattel made the toy. Nobody watched the show.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Nobody bought the toys. So they got rid of the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: ant men and they just sold the dinosaurs. They got
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Smithsonian to get a license to use them. And they're
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: still selling them as dinosaurs. Yeah.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, it never goes out of style. Dinosaurs,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: they're always cool.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: And so, I mean, they really do something. You know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I try to think about why this is. And people
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: have written articles about different theories about it. But it's
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: so special what they can do. Because if you're three
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: years old in a world of fantasy, you can have Barney.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: You're eight years old and you collect things. You can
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: collect all the names of dinosaurs. If you're digging things,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: you can dig dinosaurs. If you want to say the
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: names of the dinosaurs. and have your parents tell you
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: how awesome you are, because you could say stegosaurus. It
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: does that. If you want monsters, but you know they're dead,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: so they're not under the bed, you're not scared. You
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: want something bigger than your parents. I mean, they can
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: do all that. So it's an amazing thing.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: And again, just sort of moving forward, the actual accurate
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: representations of it, like just outside, I was walking around
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: looking at them, and it is kind of a different
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: thing to put them in scale. and have them actually
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: sort of be an actual version of what would be
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: standing there if you were in Jurassic Park. So, yeah,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess at what point did it occur
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to you that was what you wanted to do?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: It was November 22nd. I was in China six years ago,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I think, because I always wanted to go to this
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: quarry that I'd read about long before. In the 1960s,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: a gas company had excavated in this town, a little
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: town in Sichuan, and they found the best, Remains of dinosaurs.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: It just looked like a museum had been toppled. I mean, seriously,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: they had the tails, which you rarely find. They had
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: complete skulls of giant dinosaurs, of which there are only
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: 20 in the world. So I always wanted to go
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: to this place. I went. And while I was there,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the guide said, you know, this is the town where
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: we make all the robots. Do you want to go
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: see them?
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: I said, no.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: They suck. They look like they have Parkinson's, and they're
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: not accurate, and they're half the size. And he said, well,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: what else have you got to do? Go anyway. So
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I went. And it turned out there's no mold. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: assumed it was like a toy, like a giant toy.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: And they just kept making the same shit. Well, they
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: make different shit each time. And it was little old
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: ladies with X-Acto knives and couch cushions carving the foam, seriously,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: over a metal armature with windshield wiper motors to power
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: these things. And I thought, geez, if I get a
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: scientist and maybe an engineer and an artist, we can
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: make full-size dinosaurs. And I'm still not excited about the
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: limited movement of robots. But you're right. To be able
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to create... full size. You can't even get that in
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: a movie. And so that's part of the, how magnificent
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: they are that there's could be a living thing, a
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: hundred feet long walking on the earth. And so, okay,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I can recreate that. So that was pretty cool.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: And there weren't that many. I remember the only thing
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I had seen, um, Indianapolis children's museum had like a
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: couple of them, like, again, this was decades ago, but like,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: That was the only thing I remember seeing as a kid,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and nowhere else had anything even close to the real thing.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: So getting the scale out there and just kind of
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: standing next to it is sort of amazing, just to
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: kind of get a feel for what you would have
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: been dealing with right before you got eaten. If people
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: were around with dinosaurs, which, depending on who you talk to,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: there's a.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Lot of confusion there.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: In Kentucky, they were around.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Let's not go down that road.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: It was cool, too, for me, because I could recreate
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: any dinosaur. I mean, you want to do the favorites
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: because kids love them, but I had excavated Argentinosaurus, which
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: is probably the biggest. And so I thought, oh, what
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: the hell? I could make this. I did it twice.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I'll never do it again because it's four containers, 40
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: foot containers to make, to put the one dinosaur and
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: then have to put it together and then move it again. So,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: but to be able to remake the things that I've
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: been working on or the dinosaur here, they have this
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: named after me that I can actually make them. So
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: it's kind of, I'm like, oh, I can build these toys.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: How long does the assembly take when you get to
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: a new city?
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: It's not me. It's people who know what they're doing. Thankfully.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I can show up when it's done. But we have
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: these cruises. They're like roadies, you know. And they love traveling,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: thank God, because what a life. So we do about
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: 20 exhibits a year. And we have five different crews.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: It takes them between a week and two weeks to
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: put them together. And half of the work is the sewing.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Because the big things, bigger than 20 feet, are in sections.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: And each time you sew it, you want to cover
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: over the stitches so it doesn't look like he's been seen.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Frankenstein dinosaur.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Right. And so that takes a little effort. And these
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: guys are really good. So two weeks to install, maybe
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: a little less to de-install. So we have a lot
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: of guys going all the time around the world doing this.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Well, that's where I was originally going to go, but
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: then I knew it was a different question for you,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: because now everybody is like, what's your favorite dinosaur? When
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: you have your own dinosaur, I feel like that's an
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: unfair question, dude.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: It's not my favorite.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess tell people how you got your own dinosaur,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and then you can tell us what your favorite is.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I went to Kmart, aisle six. No, you can't name
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: a dinosaur after yourself. And I'm not the lead scientist
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: or a scientist dealing with this, so it's not kosher
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: for me to do it. a scientist in Argentina who
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: was finding a lot of dinosaurs and was kind of
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: an opportunist guy. He thought, Oh, that's some guy must
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: have a lot of money because he's doing these exhibits.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I'll name a dinosaur after him and then he'll give
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: me money.
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: Funding.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: That's all about funding.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely all about, he named another dinosaur after an
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Italian publisher because he thought he'd get some money. I
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: think he got money out of that guy, but he
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: was absolutely wrong about me too late. So I'm sitting
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: home one day and a paper arrives on the porch,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: you know, a magazine from Argentina and, And I'm looking
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: at it, and, you know, a scientific article has a
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: little Precy in English, then the rest is in Spanish
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: in this case. But it says, you know, named after
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: philanthropist Don Lessam. And I said, holy shit.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I'm a philanthropist.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I'm a philanthropist, and I have a dinosaur. And, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: half of all the dinosaurs named are inaccurate and are
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: thrown out. So my first worry was I'm going to
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: be invalidated. But then he found three complete skeletons and
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: it turned out to be actually a fairly significant transitional
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: animal between the early four and two-legged giant plant eaters
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and the really big four-legged guys. So I'm going to
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: survive as a dinosaur. But he's kind of dopey, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have much going for him. Big stomach, little brain.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: So my favorite is.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: That's the way to be.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: It's accurate. It doesn't have a mustache. But the Troodon
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: is my favorite. It's a little meat-eater, feathered guy, who was,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: at the end of dinosaur time, smartest dinosaur of all.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: He's smaller than us, but he had a brain the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: size of an avocado pit, which is pretty big. Bigger
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: than mammals, our ancestors of that time. So I just
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: like the idea that there's a smart little dinosaur.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: And that's how he survived, probably. Just outsmart the big
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: dumb ones.
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was actually, he had big eyes.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe he was a twilight hunter or something.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I guess what is the best way for
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: people to track down your dinosaurs and see them? You
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: say you're touring around. Is there just an overall site
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: where they kind of map out where they're going?
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: No, they should buy one for their living room.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Funding.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: It's all about funding.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I went on Shark Tank.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I did see that.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: As a result, we did get some crackpot people wanting
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: one for their living room. But that's not common. So
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: you can go see on our website where to find
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the dinosaurs. There are about 20 zoos now and a
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: couple of museums in Europe and the U.S. And because
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: you don't want to show dinosaurs every year at a zoo,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: so next year they won't be here. Every three years,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: there's a new generation of fanatics.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Kids, you know, they keep having kids. They keep rolling
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: in here with them.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: So many little kids here.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: It's great.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: And so we do now Ice Age animals, exhibits of those,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: pollinator insects, giant sized, and dragons, which basically are dinosaurs.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Pretty much, yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: And so we have all these other animals. And I
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: once made a Dino Don, a 15-foot high version of me.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: It's really frightening. Everyone thinks it's like a Mexican restaurant
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: advertisement Like a taco salesman. It should be. I know.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe it will be because nobody wants it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I want to go there and get a burrito. I've
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: got little.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Dinosaurs hanging off me. So one day, he can go
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: on display someplace. And all the sick dinosaurs, after they
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: go on tour, end up in my yard. That's even cooler.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: That's cool. Yes, it's cool. I can have dinosaurs at home.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Well, and since you brought it up, what's Mark Cuban
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: like to work with?
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know about.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say we work with him.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: He likes to make it seem like that on the show.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And he did a good pitch on the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: show about how he's going to help us, and I
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: believed it. We knew he was going to be the one,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: which is why we printed on the back of our shirts,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Mark Cuban, to do it. And on the show, it
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: appears that we are doing this for 25% of the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: company for $ 500, 000. In reality, he lent us $ 500, 000 at 7%.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: And a lot of restrictive covenants. And Disney had a
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: whole bunch. And ABC had a whole bunch. By the way,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: ABC has the rights to my life story and has
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the right to disparage me in any media. I had
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: to sign on to that. I don't know why they
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: want to do that.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: That's why you have to create the giant Mexican restaurant
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: version of you and tell your real story, the unofficial
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: version of you.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: As told to.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: As told through the Mexican restaurant. On the back of
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a menu, I'll tell you my story.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So Cuban, what he wants is the publicity. This is
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: chump change for him. It's lunch money. But he does
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: not want you to fail. I would reflect poorly on it.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: So I like to do different things, like I'm doing
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: VR now. And he would not approve of that. And
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: so he had the right to say no. So most
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: of my conversations with him, I would email him. He
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: would respond instantly. Any hour of the day, I don't
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: know what he's doing.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: Nothing, it sounds like.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: And the answer was always no. so as soon as
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: we could we paid him back and he's gone but
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: he didn't have any contacts to give us at least
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: in the world at one point we thought we were
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: going to build a dinosaur city because he owns a
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: ghost town in Texas of course he does that was
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: actually a very nice thing he did this guy who
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: owned this derelict town where somebody had been murdered and
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: there was like three strip clubs and they all burned
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: down anyway the guy was dying and needed the money
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: and so Cuba nicely bought the town And so he
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: thought he would make it into Dinosaur City, which was
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: a really cool idea. Then somehow he changed his mind
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: and it never happened.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Now it's just met in the middle of Dinosaur Strippers,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: which is kind of a good idea if you ask me,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: but I have different tastes than most people.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: No, you are like most people, actually. I have a
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: friend who's a documentary producer and he's telling me about
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: how the quality of documentaries goes down all the time
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: and he does a lot of stuff for Discovery Channel, whatever.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: And so he had to pitch stupider and stupider ideas.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: And finally, just as a joke, he said, how about
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: fire-breathing strippers explaining physics? And they said yes, and it
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: got made.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you kind of need at this point, yeah.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: So maybe I can get fire-breathing stripper dinosaur exhibit.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Hanging out in the Mexican restaurant. I like how this
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: is all coming together. All right, well, yep, definitely go
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: out and find your dinosaurs and go see them, and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: then buy one for your yard. But thank you for
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: talking with me.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: My pleasure. On the whole face of the earth today,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: there is no place more terrifying than the Valley of Gwangi.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: In Technicolor. Alright, so thank you to Don, and as
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: we ease our way into our decision, I also had a, um, hey,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: what have you been watching, only a lot of times
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: it's creepy for us. This, you know, there's a lot
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: of spookiness going on in this in their own weird way,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: but it also was dino-related, because I just in the
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: last day watched The Lost World, colon, Jurassic Park. When
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: was the last time you've seen that one? Cause that's
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the thing. That was kind of my reason is like,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I think the last time I saw it was the theater. I.
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: You know, I, I will fully admit I've only seen
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: two or three of the Jurassic.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I've seen all of them. And that's the thing that
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: first one, like I just know by heart at this point,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: like it is just, I've seen it so many times.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I've had it on in the background back in the
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: day at work on a loop. Like I just, I've
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: heard it so many times. I know the dialogue. I
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: know the dinosaurs, some of them by name. So yeah,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: it's like, I'm so used to that first one that like,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: and then I hadn't seen three like for at all
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: when it came out because at that point everybody was like, eh,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: who cares? We're all over it now. And then I,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I just in the last, I don't know, six or
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: eight years finally got around to watching three and that
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: was the only one that was like missing. But then
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the more I thought about it, I was like, I
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: don't think I've even rewatched that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: Not that it's, So which one is that in the series?
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: It's the second one. It is, oddly enough, based on...
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: It's so weird. So the first one is based on
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the book by Michael Crichton. The second one, he didn't
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: want to do a sequel. So he set it up
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: in his contract. You can only make a second movie
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: if I write the book. And I don't want to
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: write another book, so you guys are screwed. And then
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: they convinced him to write another book. So it's then
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: a version of a sequel to the book, but the
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: book was different than the movie. So it's kind of
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: a sequel to the movie in novel form, which is
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: then going to be taken by a screenwriter and turned
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: into a movie. It's the weirdest thing. It's very strange.
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: And then did someone come back afterwards and make a
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: novelization of the movie?
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Probably.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: And if it was Alan Dean Foster, you're welcome. Because
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: that man, he's an artist.
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: But.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I rewatched it and it was, I guess, as
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: good as I remembered. And that's maybe, I don't know
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: that that's a slam.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: But even at the time, I remember before I heard
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: any other behind the scenes stuff, I was like, yeah,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: it's just not really full on, not only as a
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: movie as a whole, but also it's not full on
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Spielberg either. Like, it's weird that it's so.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Seemingly uncommitted.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Well, did he direct it?
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: He directed it, technically. Now, that's another one of those
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: weird things. The screenwriter that came on board was David Koepp,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: and David Koepp had it in his contract that he
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: would write the screenplay, got a huge amount of money
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: for doing an adaptation, but would do it only if
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: he then was the second unit director. But... unbeknownst to him,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: what was coming up was Spielberg was not really into this.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Like he was so into the first one and had
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: so much fun. And after the fact, I think even
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: he said like, I kind of came in too cocky
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: and was like, he didn't want to storyboard stuff. He's like,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I just want to make a movie and it'll be fun.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: And like, he just kind of came in and as
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: he got in there, he wasn't all that committed. He also,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: this is that transition where you've got like 70 Spielberg
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: where like, who cares about kids and family? It's all
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: about your dad went off and left you and you're
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: raising yourself. And, you know, so like the 70s version
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: of him is a very different, but we're getting to
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: like 90s. And by then he's a dad. So you
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: also get father mode kicking in. So he also had
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: real world things going on. Like the story I heard,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and I haven't gone back to double check and make
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: sure this is a real thing. But who cares? It
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: matches everything else I've heard. At one point, this is also,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: we saw the technology in that first one of, like,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: how we can make dinosaurs. Well, this is also the
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: technology of, like, being able to beam yourself back and
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: forth via, you know, 90s-wise. It is funny watching it.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: They're satellite phones like a freaking suitcase.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, sure.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: So you forget how quickly those things changed. But that
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: was also, like, the beginning of you being able to, like,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: get on a FaceTime type of thing and talk to
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: somebody across the country. So he started doing that. And
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: then he had stuff come up with the kids and
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: it was like his kid's birthday. And he's like, well,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I want to be there for my kid's birthday. So
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the story I heard was he went to wherever versus
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: where they were shooting to be with his kid's birthday
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and like directed via the zoom version at the time,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: like whatever thing they were using, he was like beaming
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: in and going, Oh, Yeah, okay, now shoot that over there. Yeah, okay, cool.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: We're going to go do Hick.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: Bye.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: So, like, if ever there was a phoning it in, literally, like,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: he was phoning in the directing job on this. And
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: then there were several other times that they were like,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: because David Koepp was the second assistant director or, like,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the second, he was supposed to be doing, like, second
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: unit stuff when Spielberg took off and decided he was,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: you know, bored with this. He got moved up a
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: notch and had to do the actual directing. So they
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: said there's like a good eight days where he's just
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: not there. So he's just full on directing. And then basically, normally,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: you're still shooting the key scenes if you're the director.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: But in this case, if the leads weren't in the scene,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: he was shooting. So the whole cold open that has
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: other people, that's all David Depp. It's just.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: It ends up being like 30% of the movie is
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: not Spielberg. So that's kind of a big thing, especially
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: for somebody like Spielberg, who is as talented and committed
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: as he normally is. So watching it, yeah, I see it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Like it's there. But it is interesting because it's one
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: of those that's both because he's so damn good. Like
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: you'll get to a section, not even like a full
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: scene sometimes. It's just like, oh, this scene's just kind
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: of dragging on, whatever. And then there's a visual that
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: kick in. Oh, like, oh, oh, he planned that. Like,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: that's Spielberg. Like, that is a visual that only he
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: came up with. He planned that ahead of time and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: showed up enough to make sure that happened. And then went,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: all right, now go shoot that stuff over there with
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the dinosaur wandering around or whatever. So there's just moments
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: that kick in. You're like, oh, there he is. He
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: was there that day. So there's still these really good sequences.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: There's a super tense sequence. Again, we already had weird
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: stuff going on with the T-Rex in that first one.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: This one, they like shove an RV, caravan type RV
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: off of a cliff and we're like hanging there. It's
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: super tense. I mean, that one is very effective. So
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: like there's definite stuff that's really well done. And the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: wrap up is the most fun thing ever. So I
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: won't go into that, but that wasn't even in the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: screenplay originally. It's just something he wanted to do. And again,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: he's winging it. So he's just like, I think that's
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: the difference. If anybody else did that, this would just
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: be garbage. But when, when Spielberg half asses a movie,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: it's still so much better than most people out there
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: that it's, yeah, it's, it's a different experience. So it's,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: it's fine. That's my takeaway. It's fine.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: It's fine.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: It's also interesting. I forgot how long ago it was
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: because everybody's like freaking kid. I'm like, I totally forgot.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Vince Vaughn is in this thing.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Is it really?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: But it, It's like Swingers Vaughn. Because I thought maybe
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: it was because of that. Swingers wasn't even out yet.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: He'd shot it, but got this as a regular gig
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and just happened to become the biggest thing in the
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: world when Swingers took off. And then luckily was already
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: booked in the next giant moneymaker coming out. So that
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: was interesting. Watching a not turned into Vince Vaughn yet,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Vince Vaughn. He's a weird character in that. Because you're
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: not really sure what to do with him. Yeah, Julianne Moore.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: She was sort of a thing. Still like nine months,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I guess, is like her biggest thing at that point.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: So not quite action star that you would expect, but
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: weird and possible weight. Again, he's pulling people out of
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: like art scene stuff.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: That was good. At that point, I was like, oh,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: the guy from Romeo plus Juliet.
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: Cool.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Or like technically he's an alien three, but you know,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: any random bald headed dude was an alien three. So
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that much. And then Peter Stormare, do
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: you know him by name? Cause every time I see him,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh yeah, that guy from Fargo. So the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: big guy, not the funny looking guy. He's in there
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: and he's just an ass. Like he just sucks. And
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's just kind of what you cast him for.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: You need somebody to come in and be a cad.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: And yeah.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: He does pretty good. But it is, again, coming out
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: of Fargo and then going to this big, goofy blockbuster
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: with dinosaurs and whatnot.
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: It was interesting. I enjoyed it as much as I
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: thought I was going to.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: At least you weren't disappointed.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: No, no. Again, for as long as it had been
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: since I'd seen it, I kind of remembered how I
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: felt about it last time, and that was pretty much
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the same, so.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Now I just know the backstory of how much he
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: didn't really care about doing that movie. So it makes
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: a little more sense now, because otherwise you'd be like,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: what the hell's going on with Spielberg? Well, now you know.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Sounds like no one was really committed to it, you know?
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Not really. I mean, I guess Cap was like, here's
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: my chance. I get to direct the biggest movie in
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the world. And we all know him as the biggest
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: director now.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, wait, not really, so.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Didn't really work out for him. Totally. But I guess
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: he got a good paycheck out of it.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: I hope so.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: How many Jurassic Park movies are there now?
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: 94.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: There's a trilogy.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Especially in like the last three years. I feel like
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: they've put out 10.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Well, they got to keep that franchise going.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: It is weird the gap we had though.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Because there's a trilogy and then a reboot trilogy. And
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: then they acted like, okay, and we're done. Except no,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: we're not. Yeah. Yeah. Can we get Scarlet? Okay, we're back.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: And again.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: And even that one, I went and saw it because
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: it's a freaking Jurassic Park dinosaur movie. I want to
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: see it in the theater. So I went and saw it.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: It's actually probably one of the more entertaining ones. Now,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: plot wise, whatever. I mean, it's so like, it's almost
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: video game-esque of like, quest fetch. Here's this case and
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: we have to get samples of dinosaurs. So this is
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: your mission to get this first dinosaur and fill the case.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Then move on to the second dinosaur. Like it's so
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: specific in those things.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And then you've just got, I mean, just sort of
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: paper thin side characters. And even the two or three
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: that are main characters, like even Scarlet, we don't really
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: know anything about her, which is, It's weird, because that's
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: one of the things on that first movie that is
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: so good. It's like the structure as a whole is perfect.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: It's kind of your go-to. If you need a modern
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: era blockbuster type of movie that holds up, it is
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: just structurally perfect. And so this one, you know... But
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: it also, as much as it made a caricature of
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: the basic people, it also then gave the actors room
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: to like, okay, now you guys... develop the hell out
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: of this so like those handful of actors in that
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: first movie like you really feel like you get to
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: know them and you know without them spelling out the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: backstory they fill in just enough that you know why
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: they're there and what their motivation is and yeah this
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: one i'm just like scarlet wants to shoot a dinosaur
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: with that tranquilizer again like just yeah everybody there you're
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: just like i know who they are i kind of
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing and I don't even know that
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: dude's name and he's going to die in a minute.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: There's ones that I'm like, you might as well just
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: put a red shirt on, dude, because you ain't going
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: to be, you are not long for this fake world.
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: So to answer your question, there are seven Jurassic Park movies.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, trilogy, trilogy, and a one. Wow.
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but according to this, Jurassic World Rebirth is intended
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: to kick off a new trilogy.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: It made a fortune. That's the thing. For something that
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: people didn't seem to care about, at the same time
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: they were like, dinosaurs on the movie screen, let's go back.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: So people all ran back and it made a fortune.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: So why would they not make more dinosaur movies? So yes.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: And also, side section, there's at least one, maybe I
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: think two... There's at least a running series of animated stuff.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: Camp Cretaceous.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Since the Jurassic World era, they started this like offshoot
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that's sort of for kids, but also from what I've heard,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: kind of scary. Like, so it's an animated show that
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: takes place in the Jurassic Park setting and has some
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: of the same characters and has some of the same
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: dinosaur characters. And so, yeah, it's another, that's how huge
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: this universe is. It's a lot of stuff going on there.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: yeah so we'll start with the main question i don't
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: know if you want to go into non-related to movies
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: do you want to pick a favorite dinosaur or just
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: go with our movies and then it'll probably be the
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: same thing mine's kind of the same thing i don't
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: think i have any movies What the hell are you thinking?
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: I know. I've seen the first Jurassic Park. It was good.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I just mean dinosaurs in the movies. We were coming
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: up with our favorite dinosaurs and then favorite dinosaurs from movies. So,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: do you have an outside of this favorite dinosaur that
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: you sit around and play with your plastic dinosaurs on
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: a daily basis? And you're like, this is my favorite one.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Roar!
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: And you attack the cats with it.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: Why are you saying that like it's supposed to be
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: a joke?
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I know, that's why. I assume that's what the two
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: of us are doing every day. I only then assume
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: you want to torment your cats with dinosaurs.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: Well, do like saber-toothed tigers count as dinosaurs?
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I think that's a mammal. That's a totally different period
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: of time. I don't know. I'm not a dinosaur person.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Now you're in the ice age for it. So all
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: your movies are going to be Ice Age characters.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't like those either.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Pass.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: I don't think I've watched any of them. I pass. Go, Phillip.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: Well, after doing much consideration, I was able to pare
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: this down to three with an honorable mention.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: As we threw out the... Because, again, I was like,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I wanted to separate... So we'll throw that out, too.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I wanted to separate out the Jurassic because... Like your
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: go-to's are all going to be Jurassic Park if that's
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: what you do. So I'm just like, there's so many
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: characters that are also dinosaurs that I'm like, okay, let's
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: do that as a whole separate thing. So if you
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: take out Jurassic Park, what are your favorite dinosaurs from
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: movies became the question. And then I didn't make it
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: a like top 10 list because I'm like, Nora will die.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: She's going to be like, I don't know what the
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: hell you idiots are talking about. So I was like,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: let's just come up with three. So from that.
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: I will start with the worst of the bunch, but
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: it's still awesome in its own right.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: It's Tammy and the T-Rex.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: See, I came up with a few silly ones because,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: you know, why wouldn't I? And most of the Jurassic
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Park ones are very serious.
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: My number one on this list is very silly.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: There were a few that I wrote down that I
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: was like, this might be on my list. I can't
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: even believe there are some of these that I haven't seen.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: So I'll let you finish so I don't steal anything.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: No, you're good.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: But one of them written here is Tammy and the T-Rex,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: which I haven't seen.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God, Brian.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: How is it that I haven't seen starring vehicle for
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Denise Richards? I'm sure she's so proud. Tammy and the T-Rex.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: So that's why it's not on my list. It's a.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: It's a big hole in my geekery.
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: If you can find the bootleg unedited version, I highly
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: recommend it.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: The director's cut.
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Criterion edition.
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: Terrible, terrible movie where a young woman's boyfriend has her
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: brain transplanted into a mechanical dinosaur, which is... Yeah, I
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: know how that sounds, but the animatronics.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: All of these sound ridiculous as we get into this.
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: The animatronics for the dinosaur for that time were really,
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: really impressive.
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: The rest of the movie is so bad.
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: They don't even find a way to make the dinosaur
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: robot with the living human brain. They don't even find
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: a way to make it talk, which I would have
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: thought would have been.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: The whole thing.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: That was day one.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: You're like your main push for this if you're trying
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: to convince them that people, dinosaur, you know, like brain switching, whatever.
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: I don't know how the standard cut is because I
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: was really lucky and got to see the director's cut.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: And I don't feel like I need to watch... Really lucky.
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: I don't feel like I need to watch this movie
• 53:16
  Speaker 7: ever again in any version.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: However... The hell yeah.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: The rest of the special effects are just so bad.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: So bad and so stupid.
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: It's worth watching, just to say, I saw that. That
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: was a thing that someone made.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Do you want to bounce back and forth with me?
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's do that.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Are you totally sitting out on this one?
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go take a nap.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I gave you a heads up so you could do
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: dinosaur homework if you wanted.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: How did she even get involved in this show?
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I threw it out just as like she'd
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: be like, this is ridiculous. No, you two get away
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: from me. And you didn't say that. So this is
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: really your own fault. So first I have to start
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: with my, I guess, honorable mention because I have to
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: get it out of the way. Well, I have to
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: get it out of the way because it was my
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: first thought when I came up with this dumb idea.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: And immediately I was like, ah, but that's TV. And
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: then kind of it's not. So my first thought of
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: a fun dinosaur that I, from childhood on, have been like,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: that's awesome. When they have the dream sequence on Gilligan's
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Island and there's dinosaur, big dinosaur. Yeah. That is, like, again,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: my attachment to Gilligan's Island is probably sad. But it's
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: pretty committed.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: It's worrisome.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be. But it's okay, Marianne's going to
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: come save me. Yes, she is, Brian. With a coconut
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: cream pie. So what I then found out recently in
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: checking on this, I was like, well, that's obviously a
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: TV show, so that can't count. But even funnier is
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: they stole that footage. So the dinosaur itself is from
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: the movie Dinosaurs. And I'm saying that with an exclamation
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: point because the title has an exclamation point. From 1960.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: And if you go and watch it, that same footage
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: of the dinosaur that they very briefly cut to is
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: in Dinosaurs. So technically, but since I've never actually watched Dinosaurs,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I couldn't count that one. Yeah. But that was the
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: one I thought of initially. So my actual number one option,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: and these aren't, these actually aren't in any order. This
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: is just what I came up with in this ridiculous
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: brain order. Along those same ridiculous lines, the T-Rex from Caveman.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Is that on? Yeah. Well, I came up with alternates,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: so we can share that.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: No, you're good.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: If you don't have alternates.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: You're good.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Or you can use your honorable mention. I can use
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: my honorable mention. So then we both have something to
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: say about that. First off, I'm not really a fan
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: of the star. I don't know how you feel about
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: that guy.
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: You don't like Ringo Starr?
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I really don't. How can you not?
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: I never have.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: And as time's going on now, I really don't. Because
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: every time I see footage of him as his old
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: version of himself, he's just being an asshole. And I'm like,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: I don't like that guy. So, I don't know how
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: you feel about him as a drummer. But as an actor,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: he's also.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Not that great. Oh, no.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: I never said he was a good actor.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Where are you staying on drummer?
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: Well, drummer, no. I think he's an amazing drummer.
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I've had this debate many times with many people.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: And I will not.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I have nowhere to really gauge it. I have no
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: authority on that one. But as an actor, I can
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: say I'm not impressed. But it is weird that that's
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: where he went. Like, you're coming off of the career
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: that he was, and he's like, I'm going to make
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: a movie with dinosaurs, and it's going to be really ridiculous.
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: You're also coming out of a band with three of
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: the world's greatest songwriters, and you're not known for your
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: songwriting ability.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: And that I will give credit to for the other three,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: as much as I have issues personally with some of them.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: One of them is kind of an asshole as well. Well,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not denying that. They all can write songs, the
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: other three. Octopus's Garden, on the other hand, well, you know.
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: That's a great song. I don't care what anybody says.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: That is a catchy song.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Only because you picture an octopus playing drums the whole time, which,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: that as a visual is pretty awesome.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: Partly.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Anyway, there's a T-Rex. He's cheesily animated. He's very silly.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: At one point, he eats special plants. and gets kind
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: of loopy.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: It's a ridiculous movie. Oh, it's a, yeah. Again, if you,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: assuming you haven't seen it, Nora, if I told you
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: that there was a movie that had Ringo Starr as
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: a caveman wearing loincloths and giant beard and carrying, I'm
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: assuming there's a club he carries around the whole time.
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: I don't know if he does, but I know he's chased.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Somebody definitely does.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: Because that's how you date. He's chased by Bull Shannon
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: with a club. Well, yeah.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Again, the rest of the cat, yeah, that's the thing,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: that it stars... Ringo Starr, Dennis Quaid, and Shelley Long.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: And there are, by the way, almost no actual English words.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: What?
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Just gibberish words and grunts and zug-zug and random nonsense words.
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: It's an hour.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: And a half of ridiculous slapstick comedy.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: It is so ridiculous.
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: It is very ridiculous.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, why did Ringo Starr do this?
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: Because someone said, would you like some money to make
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: this movie?
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: It is a very odd choice, though, I have to say.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: And there are a couple of English words. There's one character,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: that's the joke, is he.
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: Well, right.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: He.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: He has a few words for us, so we'll put
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: it that way. But it is a ridiculous movie, and
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I do like the dinosaur. So that was where I
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: went with that one. What's next on your list?
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: I have not seen it in years, but as a child,
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: I was a huge fan of Baby, Secret of the
• 58:48
  Speaker 7: Lost Legend.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: See, that was on my, sort of, but that's one
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: of those, I feel like I kind of watched it
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: on cable at the time. I have not, because I
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: know people are like committed to that movie.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Like, one recently, and they like freaked out. They were
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, no, it's awesome. They were attached at
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: a level of childhood that I don't think you could
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: have convinced them any different. This was the best movie
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: ever made.
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: Well, I remember as a child, the special effects were
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: very impressive, and the dinosaur was very believable looking.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: And now... I feel like I remember the visuals and
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I'm like I don't know how I'd feel about him
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: if I watched it now I still probably will watch
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: it but I just haven't gotten to it in recent years.
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: I'm going to look up pictures of this and try
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: not to be.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Disappointed I guess at that point I would have said
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: he's a brontosaurus I think now is that one of
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: those there isn't a brontosaurus they're all brachiosaurus and nine
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: other versions of types of animals that aren't a brontosaurus
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: anymore Well, this.
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: Actually, looking at it now, this looks like a dinosaur
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: that they made based on.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: Oh, he's cute.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: He is cute.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: He is cute.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: It's very cute. And it's all practical puppetry because this
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: was pre-CG world. So it's a real animal type thing.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: It's sitting there being manipulated.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 7: These pictures of the puppet give it these just dead eyes.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: That's not good.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: There's a picture of Baby with his mommy and it's like.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: They both look like they're just, there's nothing behind those eyes.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Again, that's why it's so impressive when you see, you know,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: when you get to your Jurassic parks, cause I'm like,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to make that look real when
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: you're not doing, you know, for comedy purposes. Like you
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: can make a Muppet when it looks like, you know,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: the funniest thing ever and you're going to love it.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: But like when you're trying to make it look real
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: and still perform actions, that's a rough, that's a rough job.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: So yeah.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of that movie it's a classic for
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of people.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: It was shown on tv as dinosaur secret of the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: lost legend for reasons that i'm still not familiar certain.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I think they're just trying to trick people sometimes oh
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: and it's available.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: On youtube apparently there's a lot of nudity which is odd.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: Well it's it is set in africa so they are
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: tribes people yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah because that's the thing as you said that i
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: was like i don't remember i remember that i remember
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: it being kind of a family feature but.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: Because that's that's in like the first scene that's your
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: your thanks killing moment baby two seconds in pretty much.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Here they are all right if we're moving on my
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: next one is a very brief one but again i
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: was trying to think of something fun So this also
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: might be one of yours. I kind of have a
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: feeling it is.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: Now that I think of it.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Also dream sequence, the dinosaur that eats Pee Wee's bike.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: No, but I did.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: That was my original honor roll mention.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: It's very, yeah, it's very minimal. But as I went
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: back to look at it, and it's fun that it
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: almost matches the one they're sitting in.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was thinking of that dinosaur that they go
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: up and sit in.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there's that one. So we've already got two
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: dinosaurs like in the real world. And then he has
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: his horrible dream sequence. And I'm guessing it was all
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: clay animation because of the director.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's kind of so much fun. And he
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: just beats Pee Wee's bike. So yeah, I mean, how
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: do you not love Pee Wee's Big Adventure?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I have heard. I have.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: People that i have seriously considered stop being friends with
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 7: tell me they don't like it i mean i can't
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: give me a good reason why well.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Again i know people have issues with peewee in general
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: so i've heard someone recently and i was like it's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: almost fighting words at this point i'm like no because
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: what you're saying is wrong because they always have reasons
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: and they're always misinformed about the reasons and i'm like
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: no no and no so yeah i it's best to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: not talk to those people because it's gonna be a
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: fight But dinosaurs, eating bikes. It's fun for the whole family.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: Well, even just the way they have them, the big
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 7: ones in the movie, the way they have them lit
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 7: up and the way they shoot them.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: That's one of the few.
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  Speaker 5: I want to go to there.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. I was going to say, that's one
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: of the few decent things I can think of about
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: the world is as far as I know, they're still there.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: I hope so.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: When, I know at least at the time, I think
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: when he passed away, they painted it where he was
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: wearing a little suit like his.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: That was adorable.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, they're still out there and people still love them.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: So I also like those two.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: That was a good one.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: Now, what was my honorable mention, I guess is now
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 7: my number one on my list for today, is Palm
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 7: Springs with Andy Samberg.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, I heard there is one and then
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: totally forgot about Palm Springs altogether. So I have not
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: seen that.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: Well, it is a Groundhog Day. they rip off. There
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: are a lot of those.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: For lack of a better word, I don't mean it
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: in a bad way. That has become its own sub-genre now.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: But there is, it all involves them being stuck in
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 7: the time loop, all involves this like cave that they
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 7: stumble on. But there's one night where Andy Samberg, and
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 7: unfortunately I can't remember the female lead in that movie,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: they're camped out around the cave and a parade of
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 7: dinosaurs walks out.
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  Speaker 5: And it's just really cool.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's just like, it's just a, four second
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: shot and but it's it's them having this magical moment
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: but they uh you you know you can barely even
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 7: make out the dinosaurs but the movie overall is quite
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 7: good that's a cool scene so i want to see
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: dinosaurs walk out of a cave they gave me magical
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: time i mean.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: That's the thing even the the smaller ones because there
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: were two or three others that i thought of that
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: i was just like well again they're not in it
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: much because i was like i know there's a i
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: know there's a a t-rex i think in my science
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: project and then i went back to find that scene
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: and they're just attacking him with automatic weapons this is
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: just sad i don't want that one to be my
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: list like it's just sad for the dinosaur but i
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: remember that movie being kind of awesome i watched that
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: a lot in the day you didn't so you're done
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: with your honorable mentions now because you didn't neither of
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: us got to the other one that's like the most
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: ridiculous i want to see if you're familiar with this
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: one nora how familiar are you with theodore rex not
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: at all once again if i told you there was
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: a futuristic sci-fi buddy cop movie starring whoopi goldberg and
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: a giant robotic looks like a dinosaur from the tv
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: show dinosaurs t-rex movie Does that seem like a thing
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: that actually exists or I'm making all those things up?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: And the sad thing is I'm not making them up.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: That sounds wild.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: But this is another one of those. Surprisingly, I haven't
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: watched it. I don't understand why I haven't watched it.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: You know, same here. I can say the same things.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I've seen just enough of it to go, that looks insane.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: And who gave you money to do this? Oh.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: Exactly. Okay, I was trying to pull it up.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is wild.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: So now you totally want to watch it.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 7: But let's hold on for a second because that poster
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 7: does sum up.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: The 90s so well. I mean, it covers all the bases.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 7: You know, buddy cops, ridiculously cheesy movies.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: The world's toughest cop is getting a brand new partner.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: He's a real blast from the past.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Why? Why?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Now also keep in mind this is released five years
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: after she won the Oscar. So whatever the hell went
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: wrong with her career after that? I mean.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: Is this before or after Ted Danson?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Probably right. I feel like they were coming to a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: close around that time because they still like Made in
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: America came out about that time and I feel like
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: as that movie was coming out that they co-star in
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: the relationship was coming to a halt. So, I don't know.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Ted seems all right. He made a few bad choices
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: at the time, but we won't go down that road.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 7: I didn't know this. Originally intended for theatrical release, the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 7: film would direct a video.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's why I didn't know about it for
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: the longest time. And then later people would reference it
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: and be like, what the hell is this?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: I remember seeing a trailer for... For the movie in
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: front of God only knows what. And I remember seeing.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: Posters for a while.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: And then nothing.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: All that Theodore Rex money fell out from under him.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: Theodore Rex was poorly received by critics and audiences. On
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 7: Rotten Tomatoes, 0% of five critics are positive with an
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: average rating of 1.7 out of 10.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Again, that's another one of those that I was like,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: just to make sure you're aware that they exist. I
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: had to bring that up. So that is not, again,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen it. Couldn't put that on my list. So
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I actually went somewhat real on the last one. So
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: my official real one was the Redosaurus, which is the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: beast from 20,000 Fathoms. Which is kind of not a
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: real dinosaur. But then as you get into these, like
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: half the ones in the next category aren't real dinosaurs.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: So if it's kind of a dinosaur, like because I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: couldn't pick the King Kong remake because I love that.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I watched that nonstop as a child.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: But they went not like the original King Kong had dinosaurs.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: The Peter Jackson has dinosaurs. The one in the middle,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: they just went real world.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Or giant. Instead, it's just a giant snake. So he's
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: fighting like a giant boa constrictor, and it's an awesome fight,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: as my childhood brain tells me. and i love that
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: but it was just a giant snake so and i
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: was re-watching the one from peter jackson and like it's
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: like a tag team like it's like a wrestling match
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: because there's at first i thought it was two then
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: there's like a third t-rex so he's like battling three
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: t-rexes rolling around While hanging on to our faerie, who's
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Naomi Watts in this one, but they're coming to eat
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: her and he wants to protect her, so he's got
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: her in one hand while fighting off three T-Rexes. I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: was like, all right, that kind of makes him a badass.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 7: What a great day she must have had.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Some sort of neck injuries, I would think. There's a
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: lot of being slung around in his hand as they're fighting,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: so some sort of whiplash, I would assume.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: Does Godzilla count as a dinosaur or is he just
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: a big lizard?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Well, again, with my loophole, I would probably count him
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: because he's a fake version of a dinosaur. But because
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: that is such a big thing, much like Jurassic Park,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's its own category. We don't want
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: to open that door.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 7: As far as I know, and I know there are
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 7: people out there who can either back me up or
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: correct me violently.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: And they will.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: As far as I know, he is only ever mentioned
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 7: as a prehistoric creature brought back to life. But again,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 7: I'm sure if you know, please subscribe and let me
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: know how.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: Angry you are with me.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: Leave us a comment.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: He's got a loophole too because he's more or less
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: created by nuclear issues. So like he's a radioactive creature.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: America.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: America. America screwed everything up.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's exactly what Godzilla is.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: We did it.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: It's our fault. It is our fault that movie exists.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: It's an entire country trying to rationalize what we did.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: How about a kaiju movie? That'll be something. Then we
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: don't have to think about the real thing we did.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: So yes, I kind of unofficially would say that, but
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: then you've got 4,000 other characters that he fights with
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: that are also awesome dinosaurs, then You wouldn't get to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: anything else.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: One of them is literally a dragon.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 7: Which I am all for saying dragons and dinosaurs are
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: the same thing.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, Rodan's just kind of a big pterodon, pterodactyl,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: whatever the hell they are now. Yeah, all of them
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: are just kind of variations of that basic idea, more
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: or less.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: Does Mothra count as a dinosaur?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: How about a prehistoric creature? Yeah.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: If moths were that big in prehistory.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like most of the stuff, I mean,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: you look at, we're looking at alligators now and that's
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: essentially the same thing. I'm just assuming they were giant
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: based on what the sci-fi movies have told me. It's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: exactly the same, except they were bigger. So I did
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: see a lot of those that I didn't go to.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: I could have been talking about the, there's so many
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: of those.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: Well, you got, you just got the Megalodon.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 7: At least, which again, I'm not a gator.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: And then, what's the other one? The Velocipastor.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Once again, how I have not seen that, I don't know.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: They're all on the list. I'm getting around to them eventually.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: There's just only so many.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: I can get to.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: This is a true story. I sat down one day
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 7: and I said, I have time for one movie. I
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: want it to be as bad as possible. And I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 7: had to make a decision. I had to choose between
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: Velociraptor Or Bigfoot's Wild Weekend. I went with Bigfoot's Wild Weekend,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 7: and I don't know if I regret it or not.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Yikes.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: But yes, the Redosaurus is actually Ray Harryhausen. I kind
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: of wanted to get something of this. Again, he's done
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: many other things that are in that category, or an
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: offshoot version of his monster that he created that's kind
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: of like a dinosaur, so.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 7: Well, the dinosaurs in Caveman, I think they wanted to
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: look like it was Harryhausen.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: I think everyone from that point on wanted to look
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: like Harryhausen. Most couldn't even hold a candle. I wish
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: I looked like I was animated by Harryhausen. I would
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: prefer at this point to look like a stop-motion dinosaur.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: But the other ones... Because the giant behemoth is also
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: very cool. And he's another unofficial but looks pretty damn
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: close to a regular dinosaur.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: The other crazy one I came up with when I
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: was doing this, looking through the list, the Valley of
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Gwanga has cowboys riding dinosaurs. So I feel like if
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: you're making a list, put that on there. And we
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: didn't even get into animated. Land Before Time. Obviously, I
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: assumed all of yours were singing along to Land Before Time.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: I've never seen that movie.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: See, the first one I remember I really liked is
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: I was still relatively young when the first one came out.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: And to me, I was just like, It says, like,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: George Lucas and Steven Spielberg got together and said, I
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: want to make an animated movie about dinosaurs. I'm like,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sold. Yeah. And then I think Don Bluth came in.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: He might have been.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: And, like, everybody was involved. It was super cool. I
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: was just like, okay, I think I want to.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: Pizza Hut had cool puppets.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Exactly. So, yeah, that first one. And then they did
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: straight-to-video sequels times 1,000. And all of those are musical,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: and I didn't remember the first one being a musical.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: I don't remember.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: But I haven't rewatched it.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: That was 35 years ago or some bullshit.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: There's also The Good Dinosaur. That's a recent one that
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I still haven't watched.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen that. No, I did see that.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: It's Pixar-y.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: So it looked cool.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: It was okay.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: But he's a very simple version of a Bronte, Brachio,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: whatever they're called.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: It was just nothing exciting.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: I just thought he and the kid looked pretty cute.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: And that says a lot for me. Yeah. The kid
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: looked cute. He's got to be a pretty cute kid
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: because normally I could care less.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: So there's our personal non-park related ones. We at least
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: just have to do a rundown since we were discussing
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Jurassic Park earlier in many different ways. So I feel
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: like you have to start from the top because otherwise
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: we're just going to go to it immediately. How can
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: you have anything but Rexy? Rexy is our T-Rex. from
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: the first movie and was so cool. They rewrote that ending. Yeah.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: She wasn't supposed to be there. Like it's just the
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: velociraptors are coming after them. They're climbing up like one
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: of the big, uh, skeletons and like fall one impales itself.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: One impales itself on a rib or something like, so
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: they just like die instead. Again, this was on the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: day Spielberg was like, Oh no, it would be cool. That,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: that real, we as making it love the T-Rex already.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Like it would be cool if it came back and
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: sort of saved the day.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: So you get the most monumental shot ever of roaring
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: and the banner and like, it's, it's amazing. So yeah,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: I was just like, as if that wasn't enough, what
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: I thought was interesting was that's the same as we revisit,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: as we come back to our reboot, I guess, who
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: knows what the timeline of how long they live. So yeah,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: She's in the next series of movies. So the next
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: three in that next trilogy, she's still around. So it's
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: that same dinosaur. Most of the other ones, that's not
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: the case. But that's the same T-Rex that comes into
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: play and then becomes kind of the lead. And then, well,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: lead dinosaur. And then there's a villain dinosaur. And then
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: she fights him and kicks his ass. With a little
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: help this time.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 7: Is that the dinosaur that can turn invisible? Whatever.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Are you on Tammy and the Deer?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 7: No, no, I'm up to Jurassic World.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: The one that's smart enough that knows how to camouflage itself. That's, yeah.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: That's the, wait, I think that is, I was going
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: over them all is the sad thing. I think that's
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Indominus Rex. He is like, again, this is where once
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: you get like the first, maybe, I don't know if
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: the third one gets, the first two definitely are all
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: just real dinosaurs. They went, got some amber DNA, made them.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: They're more or less regular dinosaurs. I don't know if
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: that third, because the third one was the, what the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: hell is he? Spinosaurus, which is kind of a badass.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: I know some people don't like that one. So the
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: internet says, God forbid people complain about things on the internet.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if he's official or if he's
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: a mutated one. But as you get further into this,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: once we get to Jurassic World, they're all just genetically different.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: messed with they're all throwing things in a blender and
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: like okay sure we as the audience love the t-rex
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: but what if we made the t-rex more awesome so
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: like they start taking other things from other dinosaurs mixing
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: them all together and making their own giant weird dinosaurs
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: well and.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 7: I think part of that which i like this i
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 7: think part of that was their answer to everyone being
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: like that's not really what we want to wrap.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Which is true it's true it's very true as i
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: heard it was like they show the picture and it's
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: just like a big weird bird Yeah. Now there is
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: one that looks like the Ross, but they don't go.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Velociraptor sounds way cooler. Yeah. And they were like, we're
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: just going with that. So again, that's sort of what
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Don was fighting with was like on the set. They
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we're going to do this because it's cool.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: And he's like, but that's not how dinosaurs work. So
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: that was a good portion of his fight. And he
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: was out by that first one. So all of the
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: crazy shenanigans that go on in these sequels, he had
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Then they're free to just be like, eh, we Frankensteined
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: this one, so good luck figuring out what he is.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Indominus Rex was the villain. It's
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: fun that there's a villain dinosaur as they go on.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, if it was just a villain dinosaur, it
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 7: would be one thing. But it's that they have a
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 7: villain and a hero dinosaur. A hero that previously tried
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 7: to eat you and will do so again if given
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 7: the chance.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Which at first I thought I was going to go
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: with the Jurassic World for the next, if we're counting
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: that as the top one. But I swear going back
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: and thinking, I was like, I almost have to go
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: with the Velociraptors in that first movie.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: Because they're so damn good. And the main one, I
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: think that one doesn't get a name. I think they
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: refer to her as the big one and or clever girl,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: as you find out, as someone finds out. So yeah,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: because they have so much personality for a dinosaur that's
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: about to murder you, that you're still so impressed with them.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: You're like, well, I'm scared to death of them, but damn,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: these things are cool.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 7: So i want whatever sort of prehistoric creature that kills
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 7: me to have a personality i feel like that's only
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 7: fair yeah.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: So i feel like yeah i've got at least pencil
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: in the big one there as the velociraptor for the
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: next one just because they could have just been a
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: random dinosaur but like again they stole the show and
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: became the villain of the movie even in a scene
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: where like it's like terrifying what's going on with the
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: t-rex but by the end of the movie you're like
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: no man that t-rex is cool so like The T-Rex
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: is the hero of the movie and they become, they
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: claim being the villains in that movie. And that's amazing
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: that these CG dinosaurs are that damn good.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: What about the guy who fans out his.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that kills Newman.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: That is, let's see, diphthosaurus. That's where I look up
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: those words so I know what words I'm using. The diphthosaurus.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: So yes, that is the spitting dinosaur that I think
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: is pretty, I think that one is pretty close. There
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: is a one that does that out there. That also
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I heard referred to as one of the ones that
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: like started crossing that line because before you get to
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: the spitting part with the big hood, it's super cute.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: So it's like them already laying the ground where for
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: people that go, oh, I want a dinosaur, which then
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: becomes their bread and butter as time goes on. So yes,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I had that one down there, so we can definitely
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: put that one on there. The other one, let's see.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: That was my next go-to, but I had to bump
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: them for the Velociraptors from the first one. But Blue,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: if you watch Jurassic World, again, there's like a new
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: batch of Velociraptors. And the other ones are just kind
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: of regular old Velociraptors.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: Blue is... has a name, has personality, becomes friends with
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: our lead. Like, it becomes, like, the... It's just Lassie
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: at this point. You know, it's like it's so... You're
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: so attached to it that, like, you're like, oh, God,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: nothing could happen to Blue. Like, so Blue is, again,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: kind of the dinosaur hero for those next three, more
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: or less, because it continues on, and then she has
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: a kid by the third one. So it's, yeah, it's
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: a whole... A whole thing. Let's see.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: It worked.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Blue's adorable. And then she had a kid and of
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: course the kid's adorable.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: So I figured we had to work blue in there. Um,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: the other one I thought that I immediately thought of,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: but again, you have to start jumping to Jurassic world
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: for all these other crazy ones. But the, again, trying
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: to figure out what the actual name there in Xenosaurus. Sure.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: That's the one from Jurassic world. That's essentially just like
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: giant Wolverine.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: It has three giant-ass claws on each hand. Oh. So
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: it's got regular back legs and then just huge Wolverine
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: claws on the front. And, like, was a real dinosaur.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: And they certainly make use of those claws in that
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Jurassic World movie. So that one's pretty badass. And it's
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: definitely used good. So, I mean, that's five. You can
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: pencil in. If you want personality, if you watch that
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: last one, the... Again, it's got a freaking name. Dolores.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: It's like a.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: Aqualops?
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: It looks kind of like a Triceratops, like a little Triceratops.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: But literally, there's a kid in the new movie, finds it,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: it's adorable, and then it spends the rest of the
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: movie in her backpack, and she takes it around and
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: names it Dolores.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: I want a backpack dinosaur.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's how Jurassic Park works. They find the best
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: way to be like, we market this somewhere we're gonna
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: sell a stuffed version of this and 10 000 kids
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: are gonna buy it and philip so yeah there you
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: go dolores is pretty adorable i have to say so
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: yeah they're still doing it i will.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 7: Give jurassic park world land whatever credit for not bowing
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 7: down to the pressure of the paleontologists and sticking feathers
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 7: on all their dinosaurs.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, they still throw out those theories, you know.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: They at least acknowledge that it's a thing.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: Wait, she's so cute.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: I told you. That's how it works.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: I'm too lazy to look at her.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: I know. Here.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: A little backpack.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: I thought Baby Yoda was cute.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: I wanted Dolores.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: Marketing.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just like.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: That's how it works.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: Hanging out.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I will, and again, for as much as
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: eventually you're just like, are they still making these? That
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: first Jurassic World is pretty successful.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: It's Colin Trevorrow, and like, he just got it. Like, again,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: as time went on, I don't even remember if he
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: directed the next two, but the next two, like, lose it. Like,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: the second one, there's barely, like, a plot. They add
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: new things that barely make sense that then... They keep
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: doing by the third one, but they add 17 new things.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: The third one is insane. There's so much going on
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: in that third movie that they really needed to throw
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: out a whole lot of it. There's a lot. But
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: that first one is so successful because it doesn't try
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: to steal the thunder of the first movie, because you're
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: not going to, but it gets what that one was
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: trying to do and then is almost commenting on it.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: It's almost smart enough to be looking at that one going, okay...
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: You see what they did there? What if I turn
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: up that to like 11 and like we're really looking
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: at the commercialism aspect of this and like the fact that, yes,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: we're going to make this a bigger, better, dumber decision.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: And this time we're going to put a Margaritaville on
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: the island. And it's that level of cheesy. Sell out
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: everything and make money off of dinosaurs. And like, yeah,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: that's not going to go well. So I think, yeah,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: that one is almost... smarter than you know the next
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: two sequels anyway so they still have fun dinosaurs i'll
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: give them that so yeah.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 7: You know i remember watching jurassic world thinking i would
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 7: be safe if this ever became a thing because there's
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 7: no way in hell i could afford a day ticket
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 7: to jurassic world.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: That was the key to the second one as i
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: re-watched it again they're just trying to find a way
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: to make this work they're like well we can't do
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: the same damn thing again although they still How many
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: freaking islands are out there? Every movie now, they're just like, well,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: there was another island that you didn't know about. But
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: they also were making dinosaurs on there. So that continues
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: to happen in this series. At some point, it seems
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: like it might be ridiculous. And yet, it does not
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: stop them. So, but yeah, the second one, they were
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: just like, his original, like the Hammond's original idea was
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: going to be to make a park more or less. Well,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: not even. like a theater, essentially, and so more of
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: a circus almost. And like, you were going to come
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: see the dinosaur and then that just didn't work. And like,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: so it, again, I'm sure there's like, you know, legal
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: issues there. So if you put it on an island,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: it's safe. Nothing bad can happen. So that is why
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: we kind of get the super awesome wrap up to
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: that second one. Whereas even if you don't care about
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: the rest of the movie, the last like 20 minutes
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: is worth watching. So. But yeah, it's basically he was
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: going to bring dinosaurs here and do more of a
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: King Kong. Look, here's the eighth wonder of the world.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: That's probably not going to break loose and kill everyone.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that does come into play in the second one.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: But that was why he was just like, bring the
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: dinosaur to the people. That way more, you know, you
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: don't have to be a millionaire to go to Dinosaur Island.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: You can just go down the street and go to
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: Dinosaur Theater and maybe get eaten.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: No, keep those over there.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Fine, we're totally gonna build a dinosaur park here in town,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: but never mind.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: You don't need to bring them to the people. They
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: can stay in there.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Do I get to pick a spot? Can I pick
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: which people I want to go see a show? I
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: want to go see a show. No, you're missing my point.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 7: I don't care.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: You can watch from the back. That's fine.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: I'll sit in the back row.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: You can watch the carnage and then escape at the
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: last minute.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: That's what I do. Escape the carnage.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Well, we've discussed a couple of dinosaurs along the way.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: So I feel like we've accomplished a lot today.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: It's about time.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like this had a lot to cover. And
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: we have come up with a lot of things. So
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know that any of that's definitive. We just
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: sort of picked some things and threw some stuff out
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: there so we could talk about dinosaurs. So that's the
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: most important part. The dinosaur friends we made. along the way.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: And Don. So thank you to Don for coming and
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: talking to me about dinosaurs and the crazy life that
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: he's led. Otherwise, that about does it. We will return
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: next time. Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 7: Bye.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: Bye everybody.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: This 40 million years ago, I lit a cigarette, picked
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: up a monkey skull to go. The sun was spitting fire,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: the sky was blue as ice.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: I felt a little tight, so I watched Miami Bites.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: Everybody wants a dinosaur.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: Open the door, get on the floor.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: I met you in a cave. You were painting buffalo.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: I said I'd be your flame. Follow wherever you go.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: That night we split a rattlesnake and.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Danced beneath the stars.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: You fell asleep.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 6: I stayed awake and watched the passing car. And walked
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: the dinosaur. Everybody want the dinosaur. Open the door, get
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: on the floor. Everybody want the dinosaur. Open the door,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: get on the floor. Everybody want the dinosaur. Open the door,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 6: get on the floor. Everybody want the dinosaur.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: One night I dreamed.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: Of New York. You and I roasting, we're parking the
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: statue of liberty. Talk to me. I'm a leopard.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: Much too big to be a bird.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: A screaming, crashing noise. Louder than I've ever heard.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: It looked like two big silver trees that somehow learned
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 6: to soar.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: Suddenly, a summer breeze.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: I don't mind a lion roar.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: It's like a really niche business idea though.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: Being a dinosaur authority.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: Traveling dinosaur authority.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: Did you say niche or neat?
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: Niche.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: Both.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: They are both true.
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