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Love and Rockets Book Club #83 - Vol. 2 #13 · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tad Eggleston: Good evening, everybody! Morning in Australia! Welcome back to the Love & Rockets Book Club on 22 Panels. I'm joined by Maria and Marisol, and we are looking at Love and Rockets Volume 2,
• 0:18
  Tad Eggleston: Number 13.
• 0:21
  Tad Eggleston: I gotta say about this cover, I don't feel like Beto had to do a lot of work.
• 0:27
  Maria Pena: There's an awful.
• 0:28
  Tad Eggleston: awful lot of black.
• 0:30
  Maria Pena: Oh, that's like a lot.
• 0:33
  Maria Pena: I think I'll have time to ink that. Yeah, I will give…
• 0:38
  Marisol: You can see it.
• 0:38
  Tad Eggleston: Credit for adding a certain amount of detail to his moon?
• 0:44
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 0:45
  Maria Pena: the craters, the surface of the moon.
• 0:48
  Tad Eggleston: But it…
• 0:49
  Maria Pena: It's amazing!
• 0:49
  Tad Eggleston: It's almost like the polar bears in the snowstorm.
• 0:59
  Tad Eggleston: And of course.
• 0:59
  Maria Pena: Very minimalistic.
• 1:02
  Tad Eggleston: Seahawk.
• 1:03
  Maria Pena: gap.
• 1:04
  Tad Eggleston: Song of the Seahawk is where we're.
• 1:07
  Maria Pena: Oh, I was trying to come up with a melody for that.
• 1:11
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah?
• 1:11
  Maria Pena: Oh, I came up with this. Hulu, hula, ling.
• 1:16
  Maria Pena: Come swim with me in the blue sea. Hulu, hula, lay. I swim on my back with no cares all day. There you go.
• 1:27
  Tad Eggleston: I like it!
• 1:28
  Marisol: I like it. There we go.
• 1:34
  Maria Pena: Now we know what it sounds like, anyway, in this, in this, podcast, anyway.
• 1:41
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:42
  Tad Eggleston: That's what it sounds like for us.
• 1:45
  Maria Pena: For us, that's right. Yeah.
• 1:47
  Maria Pena: If you're happy to accept it, I suppose.
• 1:49
  Tad Eggleston: I totally accept it.
• 1:51
  Tad Eggleston: I'm all for it.
• 1:54
  Tad Eggleston: I do, I, I do like the… the ears and eyes above water.
• 1:59
  Tad Eggleston: Shock.
• 2:00
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 2:01
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 2:03
  Maria Pena: It's like his, his, eyebrow… his forehead wrinkles kind of…
• 2:09
  Maria Pena: Are a reflection of the little wrinkles in the ocean.
• 2:12
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 2:14
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 2:16
  Tad Eggleston: And for that matter, the lightning's pretty cool. I like how he did all the hashes. Hashes for the cloud.
• 2:24
  Tad Eggleston: And just the white for the lightning.
• 2:27
  Maria Pena: Yeah, he figured he did all this work.
• 2:30
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 2:31
  Maria Pena: Yeah, I guess it would be a rain, wouldn't it? Yeah. But it's also that the…
• 2:36
  Tad Eggleston: Amazing.
• 2:37
  Tad Eggleston: Both? Because you gotta have… you gotta have an overclass sky for…
• 2:41
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 2:43
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it's led up by the,
• 2:46
  Tad Eggleston: Bye.
• 2:46
  Maria Pena: By the lighting, but you need something to…
• 2:50
  Maria Pena: for the lighting to stand out, I guess. And… and I was gonna say, this took a little… this took a bit of work.
• 2:57
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I…
• 2:58
  Maria Pena: So he went straight.
• 3:00
  Tad Eggleston: Because he certainly spent some time.
• 3:02
  Maria Pena: They are…
• 3:03
  Tad Eggleston: Flash page.
• 3:04
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:06
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that's a lot of… Yeah, hatching. Well, not hatching.
• 3:11
  Maria Pena: Edible.
• 3:12
  Maria Pena: Shading.
• 3:13
  Tad Eggleston: No… no, that's hatching.
• 3:15
  Tad Eggleston: There's just no cross-hatching.
• 3:16
  Maria Pena: There's no cross-hatching, yeah, it's hatching, isn't it?
• 3:19
  Tad Eggleston: That's catching.
• 3:19
  Maria Pena: Correct.
• 3:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 3:21
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 3:21
  Maria Pena: Okay.
• 3:23
  Tad Eggleston: And then we're back to Mark and his wives.
• 3:27
  Maria Pena: Yeah, so…
• 3:27
  Marisol: Yes.
• 3:28
  Maria Pena: And how he, he, he uses them to promote his, you know, his project with the C-Haul.
• 3:36
  Marisol: This seahog thing.
• 3:39
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 3:40
  Tad Eggleston: And none of them can remember each other's names.
• 3:43
  Maria Pena: Oh, they're all bitchy about each other, though. Right. They all have a little something to say about the next… the next swap.
• 3:53
  Tad Eggleston: That's funny. And here we have… Dora Elise wrote the movie.
• 3:56
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 3:57
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 4:00
  Maria Pena: That's right.
• 4:01
  Maria Pena: Jean-Claude Baptiste.
• 4:04
  Marisol: Yep.
• 4:05
  Maria Pena: Yeah, so they're all kind of giving, having little digs at the wife's.
• 4:13
  Maria Pena: Previous works.
• 4:15
  Tad Eggleston: I really like…
• 4:16
  Maria Pena: Bitch.
• 4:17
  Tad Eggleston: water stuff here.
• 4:18
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 4:20
  Maria Pena: I, I love that top panel, that really caught my eye as soon as I saw it, and that's the seah shaded above it, you see, it's kind of swimming under the seahul.
• 4:30
  Marisol: Oh, I didn't even notice that!
• 4:31
  Tad Eggleston: I also like the air coming out of his nose, and the…
• 4:35
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 4:37
  Maria Pena: Yeah, he's getting… I think he's getting, kind of, you know, Tossed around by…
• 4:46
  Maria Pena: You know, some kind of turbulence in the water, maybe the seahog.
• 4:51
  Maria Pena: Now, I saw a burlesque show a few years ago, maybe,
• 4:58
  Maria Pena: Actually, maybe 20 years old now, but, 15 years ago, maybe, like, I think it was…
• 5:04
  Maria Pena: Well, it must have been 2007. Okay, so whatever that is. And, and there was a, and there was a woman,
• 5:13
  Maria Pena: at the time, she was doing this, exactly this. She was, she was doing, this sort of sexy thing, and she had a veil over her face, and then she took it off, and she had a beard.
• 5:24
  Maria Pena: And these days, that's, you know, so passe, because now it's, like, real, actual men with beards, you know, and doing drag, and nobody cares. But at the time, it was like, whoa, you know, everybody was,
• 5:40
  Maria Pena: sort of, it was kind of a bit… a bit surprising and fun, but I… I… I wonder whether…
• 5:47
  Maria Pena: the idea, well, existed before this comic, whether the idea got, you know, kind of picked up by that performer or not, because this is 2001, so that's quite a few years.
• 6:00
  Tad Eggleston: 2001 was when the series started, I think by.
• 6:04
  Maria Pena: Oh, okay. Oh, okay. 2005, it looks like. Okay.
• 6:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, 04 for the front cover, so probably 05.
• 6:13
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 6:14
  Tad Eggleston: Does the coverage generally get done?
• 6:16
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 6:17
  Tad Eggleston: Right on.
• 6:17
  Maria Pena: Or maybe it was, you know, it probably was… had already been done in the US, who knows?
• 6:24
  Maria Pena: I would think that Beto would come up with that as an original idea of his.
• 6:30
  Tad Eggleston: I am also loving the background people here. I love this, this…
• 6:35
  Tad Eggleston: The guy with the tooth in the first panel.
• 6:38
  Marisol: I love that.
• 6:39
  Tad Eggleston: The random… the random… she… Turkish guy in the second panel.
• 6:46
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 6:47
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, the third panel, right.
• 6:49
  Maria Pena: And the screaming.
• 6:51
  Tad Eggleston: In the middle, in the bottom panel.
• 6:55
  Maria Pena: Yes. Yeah. The glasses and the…
• 6:58
  Marisol: Kinda wide.
• 7:00
  Tad Eggleston: Alright.
• 7:00
  Marisol: But the lady with the glasses, for some reason, kind of reminds me of boots.
• 7:05
  Tad Eggleston: Little nut.
• 7:05
  Maria Pena: Oh, yeah, yeah, a little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 7:07
  Tad Eggleston: A little bit.
• 7:12
  Maria Pena: Yes, indeed.
• 7:14
  Tad Eggleston: And then, then another, another wife page. And this is, like, it goes back and forth between the wife pages and the, the C pages, for the most part.
• 7:23
  Tad Eggleston: And… and other than the one where Fritz is dancing and… and…
• 7:30
  Tad Eggleston: We've got all the fun background stuff.
• 7:34
  Tad Eggleston: The C pages are so much cooler.
• 7:36
  Maria Pena: Oh, yeah.
• 7:37
  Tad Eggleston: The wife pages are good places to have dialogue, and, like, not uninteresting in terms of what they're doing.
• 7:45
  Marisol: Yeah. But…
• 7:47
  Maria Pena: Misty Hogue.
• 7:48
  Tad Eggleston: The C pages are really, really cool.
• 7:52
  Marisol: And I find it funny how on page 11, it's like.
• 7:55
  Marisol: going through each of the panels that we have, Mark, each one of his exes and his current wife.
• 8:02
  Marisol: I don't know why, I just feel like the expression on his wife's face just gets angrier and bitchier by the panel.
• 8:08
  Maria Pena: Yeah. Until she walks out and grabs him.
• 8:14
  Maria Pena: Shit.
• 8:15
  Maria Pena: Odo le- yeah.
• 8:25
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 8:27
  Tad Eggleston: This is one of my favorite hymen.
• 8:30
  Maria Pena: These stories, yeah.
• 8:30
  Tad Eggleston: Just because I love baseball, and he does it so well.
• 8:35
  Maria Pena: Oh, so well, like, these pedals, incredible.
• 8:41
  Maria Pena: I love the… when, the… the slide into base, and
• 8:46
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 8:47
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that top right panel.
• 8:49
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 8:50
  Maria Pena: And then she's out! You're a…
• 8:53
  Tad Eggleston: For that matter, the rounding the base is great, you know?
• 8:57
  Maria Pena: Yeah, right, yeah.
• 9:00
  Tad Eggleston: the dust with the tag, and yeah, I just…
• 9:03
  Maria Pena: I wanna know who… who is this girl?
• 9:07
  Tad Eggleston: This is, this is, one of the… one of the girls that lives in…
• 9:13
  Tad Eggleston: Because we're gonna see her, I think, 3 times in this comic. But if I recall correctly, she lives in the…
• 9:22
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the apartment complex that, that… Maggie.
• 9:26
  Maria Pena: That Maggie, manages.
• 9:28
  Tad Eggleston: Manages, yeah.
• 9:29
  Maria Pena: Yeah, right, okay.
• 9:32
  Marisol: I was wondering who she was.
• 9:34
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 9:34
  Maria Pena: I was like, who is this chick?
• 9:38
  Maria Pena: I mean, any excuse to see Jaime do something, you know, incredible, a different sport. Not wrestling.
• 9:48
  Maria Pena: Oh, it's great.
• 9:49
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and, like, I know…
• 9:52
  Tad Eggleston: I know just because I know, and because he's done a couple of interviews and that sort of thing, but he's a huge baseball fan, but if I hadn't known that, I'd know it just from looking at this.
• 10:02
  Maria Pena: Mmm, oh yeah.
• 10:03
  Tad Eggleston: You know, the, the…
• 10:05
  Marisol: True.
• 10:06
  Tad Eggleston: The particular stuff that he catches.
• 10:10
  Tad Eggleston: A musician?
• 10:11
  Marisol: To detail with it, too.
• 10:12
  Tad Eggleston: Right. You just… you just don't do that level of…
• 10:21
  Maria Pena: Just the body language, everything. Right.
• 10:26
  Maria Pena: No, it's spot on, yeah.
• 10:29
  Tad Eggleston: And this… this panel right here, with her…
• 10:33
  Tad Eggleston: smacking the pitch might be my favorite Jaime panel ever. Now, again, that has to do with the fact that I'm also a baseball nut.
• 10:43
  Tad Eggleston: It's just… It's just so spot-on perfect.
• 10:50
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 10:51
  Maria Pena: Yeah, I think I think mine is the, yeah, the…
• 10:54
  Tad Eggleston: The next hit's really good, too, with the runner breaking from first.
• 10:58
  Maria Pena: I think that's great.
• 10:59
  Tad Eggleston: I like the one with the catcher even better, just…
• 11:02
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 11:06
  Maria Pena: Yeah, no, great. To me, the, you know, the slide into base and the next panel are kind of contenders, but I love the… all the storytelling in the… in that era.
• 11:19
  Maria Pena: And she's looking up at him expectedly, and the other… the other player's got the ball, and then the opposite player's going, yeah, you know, like, that's a lot of story in one panel.
• 11:31
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 11:31
  Maria Pena: messy.
• 11:32
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 11:33
  Maria Pena: That's all these… everybody's got their own, like, four people, and they're all telling the story, like…
• 11:39
  Tad Eggleston: And then the coach being mad.
• 11:42
  Tad Eggleston: Because, how dare you smile? You are out.
• 11:45
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 11:46
  Tad Eggleston: It's like, yeah, but everybody's playing.
• 11:48
  Maria Pena: Someone?
• 11:48
  Tad Eggleston: And they're playing it well.
• 11:50
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 11:51
  Marisol: Like, I'm sorry. And I love the way that, though.
• 11:53
  Tad Eggleston: finds this character as, like, I play hard, But I… but I'm playing.
• 12:00
  Maria Pena: Yeah, no, she's… She's just a happy soul, isn't she? She's, yeah.
• 12:08
  Maria Pena: Just a…
• 12:10
  Tad Eggleston: Kids… kids' stuff was also fun.
• 12:13
  Maria Pena: The… I love the… the… this fee where the… the cat, pulls the previous cat to show it. I'll show you. I'll show you.
• 12:21
  Marisol: Break down.
• 12:22
  Tad Eggleston: See?
• 12:23
  Maria Pena: That was just great.
• 12:28
  Maria Pena: Okay, that's just pushing the comic book, medium to the, to the, you know…
• 12:36
  Maria Pena: Using it, like, so well, like…
• 12:38
  Tad Eggleston: So, so great.
• 12:41
  Marisol: I just love this bottom series of panels, just the grabbing…
• 12:45
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 12:46
  Marisol: The first panel, or…
• 12:48
  Marisol: What is it?
• 12:50
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and it reminds me, have either of you read Mr. Invincible?
• 12:55
  Maria Pena: It's a French word. No.
• 12:57
  Tad Eggleston: Where the superhero's power is he can move between panels.
• 13:02
  Maria Pena: Oh, you've told me about, huh?
• 13:04
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, so it reminds me of that, only… only it's got that extra level. I can move between panels and steal the panel from above, and it,
• 13:14
  Maria Pena: Yeah, and it's like a memory, you know, because it's not really an ink, it's just the outline.
• 13:20
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 13:21
  Maria Pena: Yeah, and then it kind of floats away back up to… it's like you… she pulled it like it's on an elasticated kind of thing.
• 13:29
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 13:29
  Maria Pena: Right. Back up.
• 13:31
  Tad Eggleston: though, that, like, she climbs up kitty Corner, because that's where the panel is.
• 13:37
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, it is.
• 13:37
  Tad Eggleston: straight up, she climbs up at the angle, because that's where the panel is. She comes back down from the angle, and then throws it back up at an angle.
• 13:48
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:51
  Marisol: That last panel is too funny to me, just that now you hate me.
• 13:54
  Tad Eggleston: Now you hate me.
• 13:57
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 14:01
  Maria Pena: Thursday. So cool.
• 14:03
  Tad Eggleston: I, I, I, I really enjoy this…
• 14:08
  Tad Eggleston: the day by day with Hopi here. This week in the life of Hopi.
• 14:13
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, we so rarely see Hopi without Maggie to begin with.
• 14:17
  Marisol: True.
• 14:17
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 14:19
  Tad Eggleston: But also, like, he just captures that transition between ending one job, moving to another, you know…
• 14:28
  Maria Pena: There's this guy who…
• 14:29
  Tad Eggleston: Crushing on whoever. Right.
• 14:32
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 14:33
  Tad Eggleston: Dealing with the guy that's got the crush on her…
• 14:37
  Tad Eggleston: Crushing… crushing on the… the… the… the glasses…
• 14:42
  Maria Pena: The Eggleston lady here.
• 14:44
  Tad Eggleston: Upsetting her own girlfriend.
• 14:48
  Maria Pena: Yeah, and yeah, getting a bit of the cold shoulder from the girlfriend. Right.
• 14:54
  Maria Pena: she tries, she goes, fine, I'll go out, we'll find some people who want to be with me. She fucks up. She tries to carry it to the…
• 15:03
  Tad Eggleston: Into the…
• 15:03
  Maria Pena: wall, the thing, the post there, yeah.
• 15:08
  Maria Pena: That was great.
• 15:11
  Maria Pena: And then she runs back in. And there's our girl again. Yep.
• 15:14
  Tad Eggleston: There's our girl again. She's a gymnast, too.
• 15:18
  Maria Pena: She's a job, this girl.
• 15:23
  Maria Pena: But she's… she plays baseball, she does gymnastics.
• 15:31
  Tad Eggleston: I love the, no ray on the panties.
• 15:37
  Tad Eggleston: With the 25% off sale.
• 15:41
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 15:43
  Maria Pena: Well, she's… he's just… he's in the friend zone with her, and they're just going to the, to the discount store.
• 15:51
  Marisol: Yep.
• 15:52
  Maria Pena: And it doesn't… I thought… I thought for a minute it was gonna improve, but it didn't.
• 15:57
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I love… I love, I love the way he imagines her while he's waiting, though.
• 16:02
  Tad Eggleston: Now, it just becomes the mural on the wall behind him.
• 16:06
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. And it's really kind of brilli… rather than a thought balloon, you've got the…
• 16:12
  Tad Eggleston: The spread-out frog mouth behind him.
• 16:15
  Marisol: Yeah,
• 16:16
  Maria Pena: And she's semi-transparent, because it's just, you know, the thing that goes in front of the window is semi-transparent, because it's just an image in his mind. Right.
• 16:26
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 16:27
  Maria Pena: Damn.
• 16:31
  Tad Eggleston: Penultimate issue, or story from Julio's day.
• 16:36
  Maria Pena: Yep, yep.
• 16:39
  Tad Eggleston: Where he's got somebody going off to the Korean War.
• 16:44
  Maria Pena: Yale.
• 16:45
  Maria Pena: And then, Benjamin died. I mean, I guess it's sort of not very nonlinear.
• 16:55
  Maria Pena: That's a few years later.
• 16:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is… this is after Korea now.
• 17:01
  Tad Eggleston: Did it snow in Korea most of the time.
• 17:05
  Maria Pena: That's the woman that went to Korea.
• 17:07
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 17:09
  Tad Eggleston: And then what…
• 17:09
  Maria Pena: Notice, what…
• 17:12
  Maria Pena: On that last panel at the back, in that last panel there, the hill, the three crosses.
• 17:19
  Tad Eggleston: That's what it crosses.
• 17:20
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 17:21
  Maria Pena: I didn't notice that it did just then.
• 17:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 17:26
  Tad Eggleston: And then our Angel of Tarzana is all…
• 17:30
  Maria Pena: Oh, this…
• 17:30
  Tad Eggleston: also a lifeguard.
• 17:33
  Marisol: School business.
• 17:35
  Maria Pena: I love that panel with the old man, I like the drawing of the old man getting out of the pool, that is incredible.
• 17:40
  Tad Eggleston: Can't you see I'm coming?
• 17:43
  Marisol: This is a tad.
• 17:44
  Tad Eggleston: Catch you!
• 17:45
  Maria Pena: Oh yeah, no, but the next panel, when he's on profile, like, the way he's depicted, they all…
• 17:50
  Tad Eggleston: Without a doubt, the rudest, most infantile.
• 17:56
  Maria Pena: Thank you, ANDRE. Yes, sir.
• 17:58
  Tad Eggleston: I just hope she's not getting fired here, because it ends with, like…
• 18:01
  Maria Pena: Like, somebody… Yeah.
• 18:03
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 18:03
  Tad Eggleston: Their head out of the…
• 18:05
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that boss or whatever. Maybe he complained about her.
• 18:11
  Tad Eggleston: We get some… some more Ray, and…
• 18:14
  Tad Eggleston: This is the one where you really think, maybe… maybe…
• 18:18
  Maria Pena: Maybe…
• 18:19
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but no.
• 18:20
  Maria Pena: Get it out.
• 18:21
  Tad Eggleston: open his stupid mouth and ask about Maggie.
• 18:24
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 18:26
  Marisol: And that's where he fucked.
• 18:27
  Maria Pena: 3, 2, 1, ignition brush!
• 18:30
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 18:30
  Maria Pena: Right.
• 18:32
  Tad Eggleston: Right. I also love the,
• 18:35
  Tad Eggleston: She's talking about how great of a kisser Maggie is, and he's just sitting there going, I know.
• 18:43
  Marisol: Yeah. I'm aware.
• 18:45
  Tad Eggleston: that part of me wants to bang you, and part of me is very jealous that you've been banging Maggie.
• 18:55
  Maria Pena: But he does it, like, has Dachy really been begging her, or has it been just…
• 19:00
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 19:00
  Marisol: Yeah, because at this point, they're still, Frogmouth and Maggie just hanging out, or together, right?
• 19:07
  Tad Eggleston: No, I think they've already…
• 19:10
  Tad Eggleston: I think we already could… because remember, it was when Maggie started treating it like something, rather than just random kissing and messing around and stuff, that frogmouth went, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not.
• 19:22
  Maria Pena: I'm one of those fears.
• 19:23
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 19:23
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:24
  Marisol: Right!
• 19:27
  Maria Pena: So maybe she's a little bit… Shitty about that.
• 19:30
  Maria Pena: mouth that she couldn't really make the leap.
• 19:33
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, alright.
• 19:35
  Maria Pena: You know what I mean?
• 19:38
  Maria Pena: Oh, and that's up, and that's it. And that's it.
• 19:41
  Tad Eggleston: That's it for this.
• 19:42
  Tad Eggleston: I do… I do love that… that it gave a nice teaser for the next one.
• 19:47
  Tad Eggleston: Look out for chapters Thursday and Friday of Day by Day with Hopi, as the clock ticks away towards her new life and career. On the Beto side of the ledger, Mark Herrera returns to his abusive family for a visit, and the latest installment of Julio's day.
• 20:05
  Tad Eggleston: Julio's grandnephew encounters the long-disowned Uncle Juan.
• 20:11
  Tad Eggleston: Plus another one-page Kids Stuff Kids.
• 20:15
  Maria Pena: Oh, I love…
• 20:16
  Tad Eggleston: get next week. I do.
• 20:17
  Maria Pena: Excellent.
• 20:19
  Maria Pena: Wait a minute, back, back, back cover, Angel of Tarzana is also.
• 20:25
  Tad Eggleston: Also about you, Claire. Yep.
• 20:28
  Maria Pena: What a joke, man.
• 20:29
  Marisol: My goodness.
• 20:30
  Tad Eggleston: No, she's a serious athlete.
• 20:33
  Marisol: doing everything.
• 20:35
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 20:35
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 20:38
  Maria Pena: Oh my gosh.
• 20:39
  Marisol: It feels so weird to only have one issue to discuss this week.
• 20:42
  Tad Eggleston: I'm so used to…
• 20:44
  Maria Pena: I know, it's like, it's taken half an hour. We need to go through again. Like, that's it?
• 20:52
  Marisol: That… are you sure there's not more? Are you positive?
• 20:55
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, we could read the next one live! I don't care.
• 21:01
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah, no, you know, I mean, Beto finally slowed down, and… or… we've been reading them slightly faster than Beto made them? I don't know, something like that.
• 21:16
  Marisol: Somewhere in between.
• 21:18
  Tad Eggleston: Because we know it was… it was, it was Beto's prolif…
• 21:24
  Maria Pena: Prolificness? Prolificity?
• 21:26
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, great.
• 21:29
  Tad Eggleston: That had us having to read so many extra comics.
• 21:32
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, we do have… wait, wait, we do have the,
• 21:38
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think that the first of the B-movies has… has come out at this point. There are… there are four B-movie comics to read. Chance in hell we keep seeing the,
• 21:50
  Tad Eggleston: The poster, too.
• 21:51
  Maria Pena: Post this.
• 21:52
  Tad Eggleston: I desperately want to read two books for next week. We could…
• 21:57
  Maria Pena: We could! We could.
• 22:00
  Tad Eggleston: But Chance in Hell is longer.
• 22:03
  Tad Eggleston: It's… it's…
• 22:07
  Maria Pena: How long are we talking? Oh, JCL.
• 22:10
  Tad Eggleston: Chance in Hell is a hundred…
• 22:12
  Maria Pena: 730.
• 22:13
  Tad Eggleston: ages.
• 22:14
  Maria Pena: Well, we could do it in installments.
• 22:20
  Marisol: It's a lot of pages, my goodness.
• 22:23
  Tad Eggleston: Well, it's a whole movie!
• 22:25
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 22:25
  Marisol: That's true.
• 22:28
  Maria Pena: Usually it takes an hour and a half, though, to read the 130 pages. It takes a little bit longer.
• 22:36
  Maria Pena: I'm thinking movie, one hour and a half, no.
• 22:40
  Tad Eggleston: Right? Right.
• 22:42
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 22:43
  Maria Pena: Well, we could, could we do it in, in installments, or…
• 22:49
  Tad Eggleston: We can do whatever you guys want to do.
• 22:53
  Tad Eggleston: If we want to start with… Or we could just…
• 22:54
  Marisol: Take one… one day to do that one, and that's the only one we do, because it's so long.
• 22:59
  Maria Pena: Yay.
• 23:00
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, honestly.
• 23:01
  Marisol: So we don't have awkward breaks.
• 23:02
  Tad Eggleston: I was thinking that we should start mixing them in when we get to the… the Lovin' Rockets…
• 23:13
  Tad Eggleston: news stories, the ones that are 100 pages, the ones that Marisol started with.
• 23:20
  Marisol: Oh, yeah.
• 23:21
  Tad Eggleston: I read news stories number one first.
• 23:23
  Marisol: Yep.
• 23:28
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 23:29
  Tad Eggleston: That, that…
• 23:30
  Maria Pena: So what, so we do,
• 23:31
  Tad Eggleston: I have to read.
• 23:32
  Maria Pena: A new story is one, and then we do a movie, is that what you say?
• 23:35
  Tad Eggleston: Right. Or maybe a movie, news stories, because Chance in Hell will definitely have, like, had teased enough by the time we get to the end of Volume 2 that it seems like we should read it sooner rather than later.
• 23:49
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 23:51
  Tad Eggleston: I can't remember the name of it, but there's actually a Dark Horse book that isn't officially one of the B-movies, but I think he said on my podcast, even, that it is, so I might have to grab that and bring it in, too.
• 24:08
  Tad Eggleston: And for that matter, I mean, I think we even noticed, the posters for grip.
• 24:16
  Tad Eggleston: Which was another one of his Dark Horse books that Kinda plays like a movie.
• 24:25
  Tad Eggleston: He was… he was just doing so much at this time.
• 24:30
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 24:32
  Maria Pena: I know.
• 24:33
  Tad Eggleston: No rest for the wicked.
• 24:36
  Marisol: Very, very busy.
• 24:39
  Tad Eggleston: No rest for the wicked.
• 24:42
  Maria Pena: Alright, so… So we took… favorite…
• 24:46
  Tad Eggleston: We should definitely talk, Panels.
• 24:48
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I'm gonna say my Jaime panel, we've already established.
• 24:53
  Tad Eggleston: I love watching Rivera slug her single.
• 24:58
  Tad Eggleston: And it's, like, amazing to me that it's a single, because it looks like she smacked it.
• 25:04
  Tad Eggleston: So much harder and farther than that.
• 25:07
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it looks like a home run, doesn't it? But maybe… Right. Yeah.
• 25:11
  Tad Eggleston: But, you know, I mean, that's another thing.
• 25:12
  Maria Pena: You never know.
• 25:13
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 25:14
  Maria Pena: baseball.
• 25:15
  Tad Eggleston: Sometimes if you hit it really hard to the wrong place.
• 25:19
  Maria Pena: Here comes a single.
• 25:20
  Tad Eggleston: Whereas if it had been hit the same hardness, like, 5 feet one direction or another, it would have been a triple.
• 25:28
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:29
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 25:31
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 25:32
  Tad Eggleston: Or, for that matter, if it had been hit softer and dribbled out to the outfielder, rather than getting to the outfielder on, like, a bounce.
• 25:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, there's so, so many weird about baseball.
• 25:47
  Tad Eggleston: things I love about the game.
• 25:52
  Maria Pena: Well, I'll have to say, well, mine is that, that you're at…
• 25:56
  Maria Pena: panel, even though there's so many other panels in this beautiful, obviously, but I think that's a fantastic panel.
• 26:05
  Maria Pena: For all those.
• 26:06
  Tad Eggleston: So literally the same spot on the next page.
• 26:09
  Maria Pena: Yes, literally.
• 26:13
  Maria Pena: Like, I had the kind of… The ones you have, like…
• 26:16
  Maria Pena: chosen the one before, because I thought, wow, that's amazing, because I love that.
• 26:21
  Tad Eggleston: It is great.
• 26:21
  Maria Pena: girl in the front. But looking later, analyzing the next panel, I thought, that's just some serious storytelling.
• 26:29
  Tad Eggleston: Well, particularly because you can, like, just barely still see… Rivera…
• 26:34
  Maria Pena: Yeah, looking up at the referee, and…
• 26:37
  Tad Eggleston: Right, looking up at the umpire.
• 26:40
  Maria Pena: Buyer, sorry, yeah.
• 26:41
  Tad Eggleston: No, it's okay.
• 26:44
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 26:47
  Maria Pena: I think.
• 26:50
  Marisol: My highman one would have to be the full page of Hopi taking her girlfriend's car and backing into
• 26:59
  Marisol: The post of the driveway.
• 27:02
  Marisol: I just love that whole story.
• 27:03
  Tad Eggleston: Just the whole page?
• 27:04
  Marisol: her… Her little, her little gremlin hands, sneaking with the keys.
• 27:09
  Marisol: Yes. Turn it on the car.
• 27:11
  Marisol: Backing up, not noticing that it's not…
• 27:14
  Marisol: Even with the actual opening of the driveway.
• 27:18
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 27:18
  Marisol: And then immediately parking back again and going inside.
• 27:22
  Tad Eggleston: Who'd be stealing.
• 27:23
  Tad Eggleston: Slash crashes car. Yep.
• 27:26
  Marisol: That is true.
• 27:28
  Maria Pena: That's a great page.
• 27:29
  Tad Eggleston: It is.
• 27:30
  Maria Pena: You can see her little brain going, I'm gonna go out.
• 27:33
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and like, I also love that her going back in is silhouetted and has the motion slash sweat lines.
• 27:42
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yup. Like, -oh!
• 27:45
  Tad Eggleston: And it's just so perfect.
• 27:48
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 27:48
  Marisol: Her face, looking at the… at the damage.
• 27:51
  Tad Eggleston: Did you get the day?
• 27:52
  Marisol: I just…
• 27:52
  Tad Eggleston: Oh my god.
• 27:53
  Tad Eggleston: For that matter, her faces, she's backing up.
• 27:57
  Maria Pena: She's like, okay, cancer. And then she's, like, sheepishly driving back on the next, you know, driving back in, and you see a little movement latch that she's driving forwards.
• 28:10
  Marisol: Just like, maybe there's a sign not to go out.
• 28:13
  Marisol: Stay inside.
• 28:15
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:16
  Tad Eggleston: That's a great page.
• 28:19
  Maria Pena: is…
• 28:21
  Tad Eggleston: It's hard not to take something from the kids' stuff, kids.
• 28:26
  Maria Pena: I know.
• 28:28
  Tad Eggleston: I think… I like… the opening Seahawk panel too much.
• 28:37
  Tad Eggleston: Not to pick all of that hatching.
• 28:45
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it's just so delicate. I mean, I love the way…
• 28:48
  Tad Eggleston: That… that the lightning is defined by being blank, but also, like, there are the places where the hatching doesn't line up, which is what makes it look like more of a…
• 29:01
  Tad Eggleston: Cloudy sky, you know, just…
• 29:07
  Tad Eggleston: And I'm not certain I've seen it done that way by anybody else. I mean, it's so brilliant that you'd think that it would be the way that tons of people did Skies.
• 29:16
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know that I've seen this technique used very often. It feels very beddo to me.
• 29:22
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 29:23
  Marisol: I know I've never seen this, other than here in Lovin' Rockets.
• 29:28
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 29:30
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 29:33
  Maria Pena: I mean, probably old artists, like Cole, what was his name? Cole, C-O-L-L. I can't remember his name, his first name, but yeah, he used to work in Pena, maybe, but,
• 29:51
  Maria Pena: But yeah, this… it's very Beto, or Bernie Wrightson, stuff like that.
• 29:57
  Maria Pena: you know, when he was doing his Frankenstein.
• 30:02
  Maria Pena: But it's… but it's definitely something that Beto uses really well.
• 30:08
  Maria Pena: Well, I like the… the one in the ocean where you see him,
• 30:16
  Maria Pena: Full body with the seahog in the, sort of, in the background, kind of, same sh… usable.
• 30:28
  Marisol: Oh, like where the… it's got the shadow of the hog, or…
• 30:31
  Maria Pena: Yay.
• 30:31
  Tad Eggleston: This one…
• 30:32
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that one, yeah. Because, sometimes I'm reading, and a panel just catches my eye, and I go, oh, there's a.
• 30:41
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah.
• 30:41
  Maria Pena: And I think that's, I like that.
• 30:44
  Maria Pena: And even the way the clothes are all wavy, because it's underwater, so it gives you that water feeling, you know.
• 30:52
  Marisol: Yeah, that's cool.
• 30:56
  Marisol: I think I'd have to pick mine as the last panel of Julio's day.
• 31:02
  Marisol: mostly just because I like… The side-by-side of… the family picture?
• 31:09
  Marisol: with.
• 31:10
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 31:10
  Marisol: The window view of the hilltop and the three crosses.
• 31:14
  Marisol: the grade.
• 31:16
  Tad Eggleston: And… and the sad old mom.
• 31:20
  Marisol: Who's now outlived.
• 31:22
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 31:23
  Marisol: Her…
• 31:24
  Tad Eggleston: My child dies before her mother.
• 31:26
  Maria Pena: And if you look at the first… Panel, that heel of that…
• 31:32
  Marisol: Oh, there it is!
• 31:33
  Tad Eggleston: Did you see him up there.
• 31:34
  Maria Pena: It's only two.
• 31:35
  Marisol: that, too.
• 31:36
  Maria Pena: Because that's before Benjamin died. Before, yeah.
• 31:40
  Maria Pena: the industry.
• 31:43
  Maria Pena: Damn.
• 31:45
  Maria Pena: So there's 2, and then there's 3.
• 31:51
  Maria Pena: It's only Julio.
• 31:52
  Marisol: missed the two crosses in the first…
• 31:55
  Tad Eggleston: I did, too.
• 31:56
  Maria Pena: Well, I just noticed it then.
• 32:01
  Maria Pena: So that's all her three children. Oh, no, because Julio's still there.
• 32:05
  Marisol: No, Julio's still alive.
• 32:08
  Marisol: It's her… two of her kids and her husband.
• 32:11
  Tad Eggleston: That's fair.
• 32:11
  Maria Pena: Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 32:13
  Maria Pena: That's short.
• 32:16
  Marisol: Yes, Julio's the only one of her kids left alive.
• 32:19
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 32:22
  Maria Pena: -
• 32:24
  Maria Pena: Oh, the other thing that I noticed in the, the Jaime story when Hopi's waiting for the, bus.
• 32:34
  Maria Pena: And then you see all these different people going past in cars. It's very Norman Rockwell, I love that.
• 32:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:42
  Maria Pena: And it's just watching people go by their cars, all the different types of characters, and the last woman looks at her.
• 32:52
  Maria Pena: It makes me wonder what's up with that.
• 32:56
  Tad Eggleston: I love the old couple.
• 32:59
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 33:00
  Maria Pena: So well observed, as always.
• 33:06
  Maria Pena: I do.
• 33:07
  Marisol: What happened to the box she had?
• 33:11
  Tad Eggleston: That's a good question.
• 33:12
  Maria Pena: It's at her feet. I think I see the edge of it on her feet there.
• 33:18
  Maria Pena: You know, on the top, top right.
• 33:20
  Marisol: Huh.
• 33:22
  Maria Pena: Just under the bench line.
• 33:24
  Tad Eggleston: No, I…
• 33:26
  Maria Pena: And then there's a little…
• 33:27
  Tad Eggleston: And to the house, where is it? Is she still carrying it? I can't tell.
• 33:31
  Marisol: She looks like she has her hands in her pockets.
• 33:34
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 33:35
  Maria Pena: Mary, she left it.
• 33:38
  Marisol: Disappearing mystery Box.
• 33:40
  Marisol: Yep.
• 33:42
  Maria Pena: My behind me forgot. They have a problem with it.
• 33:49
  Tad Eggleston: She decided that it wasn't that necessary.
• 33:52
  Marisol: Yeah, it wasn't worth it.
• 33:57
  Maria Pena: Oh, that guy has a… has a prosthetic arm.
• 34:02
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I…
• 34:03
  Marisol: No, no.
• 34:03
  Maria Pena: in.
• 34:03
  Tad Eggleston: Well, he's… he's… that's the sexual harassment one, the one that pokes people.
• 34:09
  Maria Pena: Oh, with his, okay, right.
• 34:11
  Tad Eggleston: Apparently poke… pokes them with his prosthetics.
• 34:15
  Tad Eggleston: Because he doesn't have one, he's got two.
• 34:16
  Marisol: You have both hands.
• 34:18
  Maria Pena: I will not have both hands.
• 34:22
  Maria Pena: I've noticed, the other hand with the CRA.
• 34:26
  Tad Eggleston: Which… Lighting that scene.
• 34:28
  Maria Pena: It's a real break.
• 34:30
  Maria Pena: Yeah. Yes.
• 34:32
  Maria Pena: Yeah, I'm doing?
• 34:37
  Maria Pena: Yeah, holy crap.
• 34:39
  Tad Eggleston: Because those are both… those are both hooks.
• 34:42
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 34:43
  Tad Eggleston: More the grabber hooks, probably, but…
• 34:47
  Marisol: Folks nonetheless.
• 34:49
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 34:51
  Tad Eggleston: But not like Captain Hook Poke Your Eye Out Hook.
• 34:55
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 34:57
  Maria Pena: They're…
• 34:57
  Marisol: Like, I like the little grippy ones.
• 34:59
  Maria Pena: Slow.
• 35:02
  Marisol: Bill, grippy claws.
• 35:05
  Tad Eggleston: No, I caught that as I went through, and I'm like, wait a minute, that's AB?
• 35:10
  Maria Pena: 18.
• 35:10
  Tad Eggleston: He wasn't there because he was having to go to the sexual harassment training. That's AB.
• 35:16
  Maria Pena: Yeah!
• 35:22
  Tad Eggleston: Cool.
• 35:22
  Maria Pena: What does, you know…
• 35:23
  Tad Eggleston: And what did he do? He poked her in the arm.
• 35:29
  Maria Pena: You know how he's always poking people, tickling them?
• 35:35
  Maria Pena: I've been poked and tickled by him hundreds of times!
• 35:42
  Maria Pena: But it's not like he can feel… feel it through… fill you up, you know, because he can't feel. It's just… Right. So it's a power thing, so it's… maybe it's worse.
• 35:54
  Tad Eggleston: Or it's an accident.
• 35:56
  Maria Pena: Or the next thing, well, no, because it likes to tickle.
• 35:59
  Tad Eggleston: That's true. Who knows?
• 36:02
  Maria Pena: Who knows what's up with AB?
• 36:05
  Tad Eggleston: I do… I do like the, despite the fact that he's so crushing on her, when Hopi touches…
• 36:13
  Tad Eggleston: Guy, go forth, it's… and sexual harassment goes for women, too!
• 36:18
  Maria Pena: Oh, good.
• 36:18
  Marisol: Yep.
• 36:18
  Maria Pena: He knows he's just… you know, she doesn't… Yeah.
• 36:24
  Maria Pena: Maybe, yeah.
• 36:26
  Tad Eggleston: I'll really miss our lengthy conversations about bowel movements.
• 36:31
  Maria Pena: As we lie!
• 36:37
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, Hopi…
• 36:42
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 36:42
  Marisol: She's a riot every time we see her. And a little bit of a mess.
• 36:48
  Tad Eggleston: Yup.
• 36:49
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and that's… that's one of the… I mean, and this is where I… I, like, have the advantage of having read a lot of the newer stories, too.
• 36:58
  Tad Eggleston: But, like, this week is really a major transitional week for Hopi.
• 37:04
  Maria Pena: Right.
• 37:04
  Tad Eggleston: about to go be… I mean, she makes a big deal out of it being a teacher's assistant, but I know that, like, depending on who you ask, that's what I am, and I'm still a teacher, you know?
• 37:16
  Tad Eggleston: And she's about to discover that, and she's about to, like…
• 37:23
  Tad Eggleston: Things are gonna go from, like.
• 37:26
  Tad Eggleston: this is what I do because I need to pay rent to, like, this is what I do, and we're…
• 37:34
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, you can already see that, like, she's looking forward to it, and that's got her more contemplative.
• 37:42
  Maria Pena: Whoa.
• 37:43
  Tad Eggleston: You know, this is… this is like…
• 37:46
  Tad Eggleston: This… this, in some ways, we're looking at the week where Hopi grows up.
• 37:51
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 37:53
  Maria Pena: find some meaning to her life. Pretty spot on. Right.
• 37:57
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, she's still hopey, but…
• 38:02
  Marisol: Right.
• 38:02
  Tad Eggleston: But you, you can see just the way she's…
• 38:10
  Maria Pena: That because of the.
• 38:11
  Marisol: Thank you, Philippe.
• 38:13
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 38:16
  Tad Eggleston: But, I mean, again, like, we saw it last time with the flirting with the glasses girl.
• 38:26
  Maria Pena: Dude!
• 38:27
  Tad Eggleston: Like, but also being aware, why do I always do this? I'm in a relationship that I like, and here I am flirting with the grasses girl.
• 38:35
  Tad Eggleston: And my girlfriend's completely aware of it, because she knows me.
• 38:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 38:42
  Tad Eggleston: Boop.
• 38:44
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 38:44
  Tad Eggleston: You know… But then she still gives her a hard time about it.
• 38:49
  Tad Eggleston: In this one, she's like, should I get contacts?
• 39:03
  Tad Eggleston: OP.
• 39:05
  Tad Eggleston: Like them all.
• 39:06
  Marisol: So, do we only have one more for Julio's Day story?
• 39:11
  Tad Eggleston: I could be wrong.
• 39:14
  Tad Eggleston: Because I think when I read this earlier.
• 39:17
  Tad Eggleston: I read it as, and in the last installment, but it says the latest.
• 39:22
  Maria Pena: The latest.
• 39:24
  Tad Eggleston: So… so we probably have more than one.
• 39:27
  Tad Eggleston: Okay. I want to say Julio was a century.
• 39:31
  Tad Eggleston: And right now, we're in, like, the… the 50s, because it's… it's Korea.
• 39:38
  Tad Eggleston: So, so I think we have more Julio.
• 39:42
  Tad Eggleston: This is the first time I've read it as parts, rather than as a graphic novel, so it's…
• 39:47
  Marisol: Gotcha.
• 39:48
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know how it… how it plays out quite.
• 39:55
  Tad Eggleston: I do love the volleyball.
• 39:58
  Tad Eggleston: And what is this down here like?
• 40:01
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, that green arm…
• 40:03
  Maria Pena: Game show. Game show.
• 40:06
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but it's like a sci-fi game show.
• 40:10
  Marisol: Yes.
• 40:11
  Tad Eggleston: Because they've got the planetary pins, and the arm coming in from the side is green.
• 40:18
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:19
  Marisol: Those weird shoulder pad thing.
• 40:21
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 40:22
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 40:25
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it's definitely futuristic.
• 40:27
  Maria Pena: Any, any clues in where it says cars on Decker? Is that anything?
• 40:35
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 40:36
  Marisol: No idea.
• 40:36
  Tad Eggleston: I almost said that Johnny Carson could be…
• 40:39
  Tad Eggleston: or the Carson could be Johnny Carson, almost.
• 40:42
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:43
  Maria Pena: Bicker? Bicker? Yeah, I don't know.
• 40:49
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 40:51
  Maria Pena: Anyway, a little clue from Jaime that… We don't…
• 40:57
  Tad Eggleston: I'm trying to remember.
• 40:58
  Marisol: little thing.
• 41:00
  Tad Eggleston: who the Tonight Show hosts were. It was, well, Steve Allen, Jack Parr, Johnny Carson. No Deco. No, no, no Decker.
• 41:10
  Tad Eggleston: Not on The Tonight Show.
• 41:12
  Maria Pena: We're bigger.
• 41:14
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, back, girl.
• 41:16
  Maria Pena: Whoa.
• 41:17
  Marisol: Could that be maybe the name of another kind of game show host?
• 41:27
  Maria Pena: But it almost looks like, they're the first letters of something that people need to guess. Like, it feels like…
• 41:34
  Maria Pena: They're black.
• 41:37
  Maria Pena: After each letter.
• 41:38
  Marisol: Exactly.
• 41:39
  Maria Pena: space. Does that mean, you know, they're… they're… it's like,
• 41:43
  Maria Pena: Like, Jeopardy, you know, where you have to… Jeopardy? Jeopardy, whatever.
• 41:48
  Maria Pena: One of those shows.
• 41:49
  Marisol: And I know what kind of game you're talking about, though, but yeah, it's like one of those where…
• 41:54
  Marisol: You have, like, the first letter of something, and then they tell you some type of category or whatever, and you have to…
• 42:01
  Marisol: Your answers have to start with those letters.
• 42:04
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 42:06
  Maria Pena: I get it, I get it.
• 42:11
  Marisol: Yes.
• 42:12
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 42:14
  Marisol: She fell.
• 42:14
  Maria Pena: mystery.
• 42:16
  Maria Pena: Hey, Mr.
• 42:19
  Tad Eggleston: I'm not finding a good answer to it either in the short… short term.
• 42:24
  Tad Eggleston: Not… not if it's…
• 42:33
  Tad Eggleston: Not if it's tied to Carson, and that is Johnny Carson.
• 42:38
  Tad Eggleston: if… if… if… Carson and Becker. Well, actually, let's… let's Google Becker and Carson.
• 42:47
  Tad Eggleston: Or Decker and Carson, because I can't tell either.
• 42:50
  Tad Eggleston: Check out.
• 42:51
  Maria Pena: 0 D.
• 42:54
  Tad Eggleston: There's a Carson Becker who's faculty at Columbia College in Chicago right now, but I don't think that that would be…
• 43:06
  Tad Eggleston: That doesn't… that doesn't seem like it would be.
• 43:09
  Tad Eggleston: The… the thing.
• 43:25
  Tad Eggleston: Let me try it with a D.
• 43:27
  Tad Eggleston: Just in case it's Decker.
• 43:31
  Tad Eggleston: There's a Carson Decker.
• 43:35
  Tad Eggleston: Who's in recent movies.
• 43:39
  Marisol: Oh.
• 43:43
  Tad Eggleston: But too recent for it to be, like, appropriate to… to… To fit that.
• 43:52
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, no idea.
• 43:57
  Marisol: Another mystery.
• 43:59
  Tad Eggleston: Another mystery.
• 44:03
  Tad Eggleston: There's so many of them that I can't even say if we ever have Jaime on, because the chances that I would remember this one to ask about just…
• 44:10
  Tad Eggleston: just aren't high.
• 44:13
  Maria Pena: And to be honest, now that we're all getting older, he probably doesn't even remember.
• 44:18
  Tad Eggleston: That's also possible.
• 44:19
  Maria Pena: She's like, I don't remember.
• 44:21
  Maria Pena: Hi, I did that!
• 44:24
  Tad Eggleston: Well…
• 44:25
  Marisol: I'm sure it was something I did. Why? I cannot tell you?
• 44:29
  Tad Eggleston: the…
• 44:30
  Tad Eggleston: The guy in this picture looks very much, like, somewhere between Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin in, like, their Las Vegas years.
• 44:41
  Maria Pena: Well, instead of looks like someone from Star Trek, to be honest, like one of the Star Trek teams.
• 44:46
  Tad Eggleston: A little bit, yeah.
• 44:47
  Maria Pena: It's got some.
• 44:47
  Tad Eggleston: Sulu?
• 44:48
  Marisol: Where's decay?
• 44:49
  Tad Eggleston: I'm George Takei.
• 44:50
  Maria Pena: Heh, yeah, yeah, right?
• 44:54
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 44:55
  Maria Pena: That's what I think. I kind of went, is that guy from Star Trek? I've never watched… I'm not a Trekkie, so…
• 45:03
  Maria Pena: But, yeah, he looks like one of the, yeah, crew, yeah.
• 45:08
  Maria Pena: Classic Star Trek.
• 45:11
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, he definitely has a George Takei vibe.
• 45:13
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 45:17
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 45:18
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know.
• 45:20
  Tad Eggleston: So many options.
• 45:22
  Maria Pena: Indeed.
• 45:25
  Tad Eggleston: Well, we stretched it out. Now we're, like, 45 minutes, 50 minutes, that's a regular episode. Yeah.
• 45:35
  Marisol: We did it!
• 45:36
  Tad Eggleston: That's so much fun!
• 45:37
  Tad Eggleston: Should we take the quick, quick glance at next month? Let's take a quick glance.
• 45:43
  Maria Pena: Sure.
• 45:43
  Tad Eggleston: next month.
• 45:44
  Marisol: That's a little sneak peek.
• 45:46
  Tad Eggleston: A little sneak peek of… not even next… well, next quarter back then, next week, hopefully, for us, as long as we don't get too busy.
• 45:59
  Tad Eggleston: I do love this cover.
• 46:01
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly with the little girl doll on the, the…
• 46:06
  Maria Pena: Oh, Maggie's a little Maggie, isn't it?
• 46:08
  Marisol: Aww.
• 46:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 46:10
  Marisol: It looks like it.
• 46:11
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it's a little dollop of me. Oh, look at that.
• 46:15
  Tad Eggleston: We got some sci-fi going on, yup.
• 46:19
  Marisol: It's been a while since we've seen her.
• 46:22
  Maria Pena: Give me more Magic Hoppies!
• 46:25
  Maria Pena: Hoppy days.
• 46:27
  Tad Eggleston: Video…
• 46:28
  Maria Pena: Julio…
• 46:30
  Tad Eggleston: Another Hopi Day… Wait a minute, was that… do we… oh!
• 46:40
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, Maggie. See, see, we've got… we both have Maggie, and…
• 46:45
  Maria Pena: And Rivera.
• 46:46
  Tad Eggleston: Rivera, right.
• 46:47
  Maria Pena: whatever, and there's Angel.
• 46:49
  Tad Eggleston: Angel, yeah.
• 46:50
  Maria Pena: Oh, rose.
• 46:51
  Maria Pena: He said, hi, Angel, is that your real name? No, it's Rose, but my dad's name is Ange.
• 46:56
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 46:57
  Maria Pena: So…
• 46:59
  Tad Eggleston: So there we get them tied together.
• 47:03
  Maria Pena: Okay, now…
• 47:06
  Tad Eggleston: Kid stuff kids actually have kids this time, they're not in… they're not in costumes.
• 47:10
  Maria Pena: An indole customer.
• 47:13
  Tad Eggleston: The more dumb solitaire.
• 47:18
  Maria Pena: Oh, was that a Mario? Is that the whole… let me see who it is.
• 47:23
  Tad Eggleston: It is! There's… it looks like there's a one-page Mario story.
• 47:26
  Maria Pena: I don't marry a story, yeah.
• 47:28
  Tad Eggleston: with Beto Pencils.
• 47:30
  Maria Pena: Nice.
• 47:32
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it's pretty nice inking there by Mario.
• 47:38
  Maria Pena: Very nice.
• 47:39
  Tad Eggleston: Mario's got the story and layouts and inks, and Beto did the pencil and the lettering.
• 47:45
  Tad Eggleston: and the tweaks.
• 47:48
  Maria Pena: tweaks, yeah.
• 47:52
  Maria Pena: Great. Okay.
• 47:53
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 47:54
  Maria Pena: forward to it.
• 47:55
  Tad Eggleston: Me too. Me too.
• 47:58
  Tad Eggleston: So it looks like Julio stayed.
• 48:00
  Maria Pena: I don't think.
• 48:00
  Tad Eggleston: It's sad.
• 48:03
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 48:04
  Tad Eggleston: Doesn't it?
• 48:06
  Maria Pena: to the collection.
• 48:06
  Marisol: Yes.
• 48:07
  Tad Eggleston: Don't just feel like a sad Julio's day.
• 48:14
  Maria Pena: Nope.
• 48:16
  Marisol: It does.
• 48:19
  Tad Eggleston: Hmm.
• 48:20
  Maria Pena: this… Or…
• 48:22
  Marisol: Boom.
• 48:23
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, wow, that's a lot of…
• 48:25
  Maria Pena: That's a lot of tightening.
• 48:26
  Tad Eggleston: foods.
• 48:28
  Marisol: Ow.
• 48:29
  Tad Eggleston: That is…
• 48:30
  Marisol: It's a hefty word bubble.
• 48:33
  Maria Pena: Sounds like… yeah.
• 48:36
  Maria Pena: Biggest word balloon in the world, ever.
• 48:40
  Maria Pena: Is she 14?
• 48:41
  Tad Eggleston: next week.
• 48:43
  Tad Eggleston: For the Love of Rockets Book Club on 22 Panels, this has been Marisol, Maria, and myself, and we will see you after the next page.