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Notre Dame Game Preview · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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  I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian Sigler, buddy.
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  How you doing tonight? Winds Today, let's do it.
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  It's hump day coming off the bye week, feeling refreshed not as
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  much stress on the body over the last weekend.
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  Not as much stress as having to go through three and a half hour
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  stomach ache. As Justin Fuente has said
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  consistently this year about our team.
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  I got to go through a hour and a half stomach ache on Sunday
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  watching, the 49ers play the Seahawks when we Hold them.
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  Hold them. Hold them drive drive drive, get
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  three. Freakin points.
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  Yeah. Yeah, y'all definitely figure
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  out a new way to do it. There we finally got one in the
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  books. The Colts put one on the the
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  good side of the board there. Hopefully we get a little bit
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  more healthy as we go into the middle part of the Season here
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  because I mean we've been banged up all over the place.
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  Yeah he's wise call me back and yeah you know also missed his
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  first start. I mean you got that you got T
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  wise been on IR. Other guys on offense and
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  defense have been banged up. Jonathan Taylor got a little
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  Nick this week. He might not be full.
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  Go coming into this week, so true.
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  It's been an interesting year. Although it looked they looked
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  about the same as my fantasy team.
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  So, well, the Niners Is didn't start Trail ants in the second
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  half and it's like people, like all he doesn't look good.
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  He looks shaky. It's like he had no script, he
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  had no first team preps, he had nothing.
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  He scored 14 points against Seattle.
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  I feel good about that your fantasy doing great.
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  You know, I got lucky the first two weeks of fantasy season.
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  I couldn't barely break a hundred Brock take W is, and
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  then last two weeks, I'm starting to put the points
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  together. People are getting healthy.
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  I'm finding the right. Mix of the line up, boys, and
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  eat it. There you go.
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  I'm sitting in the bottom third right now.
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  I'm kind of hanging in there by thread right now.
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  I just got to get my running backs healthy, you know, weird
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  piece, we're in the same league, everybody, you, and several
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  other people who were in the semis Is last year or just at
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  the bottom. It's got nothing to do with
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  draft position like, no, because it's been bad luck.
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  Well, you told me the other day. Ryan texted, me.
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  You were like, dude, I now know exactly what you went through,
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  until Johnny concerning injuries and I'm like, I even got the Joe
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  Mixon thing going on. Like, I'm just a half of
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  parallels, I just gave one running back healthy.
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  And then Joe Mixon might miss this week.
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  So one in one out. The life of fantasy football.
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  Obviously folks. This week, we are going to be
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  talking about the Notre Dame game here in a few minutes.
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  But before we get into that, get some general things we want to
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  hit on a couple Hokies notes. But Brian, let's talk about this
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  for Hokies basketball, what a pickup?
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  I mean, an absolute pick up getting Rodney rice to combo
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  guard, out of DeMatha, not a shock there.
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  Top 50 player top 10 combo guard, one of the best players
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  in the state of Maryland. I mean the We don't follow
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  basketball as close. A it's tough.
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  If you are a Avid follower of basketball, feel free to DM us.
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  You like it have a show with the penalty Corner up.
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  Cast basketball version, but, you know, the team already looks
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  good Mi kyung. Great pick up the coach out of
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  DeMatha. Clearly get this kid.
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  Now, I mean you mentioned to me, you were, you were just reading
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  an article What is it? Two more?
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  Guys, we can pick up and it could be best class ever.
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  And that would probably be a top-15 class.
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  It definitely be one of the better classes that they've had
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  clown. He's the big, the big other
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  Target that we're trying to pull in there.
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  But I mean, this is, this is Mike Jones.
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  Higher already paying dividends and he loved to see it out the
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  gate. Getting a major major pick up
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  like Rodney rice. Guy that's probably probably
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  going to give you a lot of good quality minutes out the gate but
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  isn't necessarily quite at that one and done level.
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  So you probably going to get him for three years in the program
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  which is going to be big as well.
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  So I think that's good for the long-term and the short-term.
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  So that's going to be a big pickup for us.
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  Looking forward to seeing him in the maroon and orange next year.
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  Absolutely. And as much as you can say with
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  Mike Jones being at the Matha, You look at my Jones resume and
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  how many like 16 and under teams and stuff like that.
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  He's coached I think that's just him coming in and making the
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  immediate impact on because this kid you know you could probably
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  list the schools. He went to he probably could
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  have his choice of probably any 15 or 20 schools of where he
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  was. So again my mic young, Mike
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  Jones tearing it up. Let me tell you who's not
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  tearing it up behind, this was like story of the weekend and
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  just a lad. Is Urban Meyer?
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  um, I mean tearing it up in the wrong way, I guess.
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  More than I will say this, right now, if he had any thoughts
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  about going back to Collegiate football, that's never going to
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  happen again. And honestly, once he gets fired
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  from Jackson, that's probably it.
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  Because I don't think what he did in that bar, and it's not so
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  much 20, he was in a bar drinking.
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  It's like the pitch. The video that came out
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  yesterday. And what he did, that's it, like
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  you like are you really going to hire a guy and put him around
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  coeds? Obviously, there's going to be
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  female trainers, female student, I mean, Louisville might be, oh,
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  you know, they do, but but I mean, what a shit show that he
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  is, it's been at every stop. It's, you know, it's been a lot
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  of questionable things. Whether it's, you know, some of
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  the things that were swept under the rug in Florida, whether it's
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  in how he left that situation, some of the things that got
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  pushed to the side and swept under the rug and Ohio State,
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  and how we left a gap. Like this guy doesn't do himself
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  any favors when it comes to The public relations of the
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  universities in programs that he works with.
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  Yeah. Usually it takes about a year or
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  two for it to start to you know come to come to a head here, we
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  got it, you know, four weeks into the season.
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  So what I'll do less than that though because the higher in
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  the, the old Iowa, what strength coordinator was immediately like
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  this guy got fired. Oh yeah yeah that'd be that.
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  That was hurting you hurting their.
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  Then I'm going to have to And then I'm going to put Tim Tebow
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  as one of my 90 where it's like, okay, you're really not taking
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  this seriously. Tim Tebow has been out of
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  football for six years. Why are you putting him on your
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  team? So it's a complete joke.
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  Again, I think because of this incident and whether it be USC
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  pens, whoever If you seriously go approach and say we're going
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  to hire him, like okay immediately it's like you're a
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  joke of a program because of that incident in general along
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  with all the other excess baggage.
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  So I think he's preferably I think it's done.
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  I think his TV career is over 2 because again doing this type of
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  stuff and getting busted he's done and maybe it's a good
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  thing. Yeah.
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  And you know at least if nothing else we got the solid Urban
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  Cowboy Meme out of this thing because yes, that was sent me
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  man that one sent me. So I was like absolutely great
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  chefs kiss Chef sky. So Braun last Saturday night.
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  You're sitting there probably like me why can't some of the
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  late game? Probably twittering and you're
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  thinking about game day where they'll go next?
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  Because this is the week. We thought you know if we can
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  somehow get 4 and 0 and Notre Dame gets 25 and 0.
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  Tennessee, game day comes here. We lose West Virginia.
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  They lose Cincinnati last week, in your sitting here looking.
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  It's like, well, they're going to Iowa.
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  It's going to be two top, four teams.
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  Yeah, instead, we're going the Red River.
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  Shootout. Hmm.
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  And I set their Brawn the 90th time, but not before, you know,
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  you taking the sum of the times, the mid 2000's and even the
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  later, part of the 2000s, they were usually in the top five.
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  It made sense, at least one of them was right, at least one of
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  them was well back mid 2000's. Yeah, mid-2000s Consistently a
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  top five, top eight match up. Exactly.
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  And I mean that this is probably the the year where both teams
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  collectively are ranked the lowest, right?
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  Both crank the lowest boat, not both not looking good.
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  Texas is 21 Oklahoma's hanging on to a top five team, but if
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  they're a top five team, then you know, we're a top 15 team.
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  That's just the way I feel about that.
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  Just they've won every game, but it's been ugly, LeBron.
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  I did more digging. And do you realize how much the
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  new ESPN SEC? Contract is per team?
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  I would say, it's very healthy. Assignments.
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  One of the figures but I think it's very healthy.
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  It's almost 70 million dollars. Okay, you know what?
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  It was just a few years ago which go 55 million.
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  So you're telling me that they are getting.
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  What is that about? A 26% increase?
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  You smell it? Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and
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  just outright put this out here. I think ESPN was significantly
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  behind the Which to get Texas and Oklahoma into the SEC.
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  Because you look at that contract and you say, how are
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  you going from mid 50's to damn near 70 million dollars?
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  It's one thing they had in mind we're going to get two, great
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  big ol fan bases, And they're going to come over here.
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  We're going to get we can get control of the Longhorn Network.
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  We don't have to compete with Fox with them anymore.
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  It makes sense. So if you're the, if you're the
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  Big 12, do you not lawyer up and would you ever do something you
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  got to do something? Because and I'm with you, I'm
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  with you. It's a, it's definitely, you
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  know, there were hints that they were already scheming against
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  the Big 12, and this is showing out right Market, favoritism
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  towards the SEC as well. So we got kind of tooth two
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  things working in tandem to really kind of fuck the Big 12
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  here, right? Oh, absolutely.
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  And then you're not going to Big Ten.
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  And again the Big Ten, this game is on this game is on Fox at
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  4:00 It's not an ESPN game and if anybody who's our age, if you
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  remember what Gameday used to be?
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  It doesn't matter what network the game was on it did.
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  They went to what was going to be one of the biggest games and
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  they'll sometimes they got to midseason, they sort of
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  fluctuate, they be like okay we're going to go to an ACC game
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  this week and the next week we're going to go to a big 12
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  game and then next week we're going to, you know, we're going
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  to go a little off kilter to an FCS.
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  Yeah. You know.
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  And they can people can say, well as you get the late October
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  and early November, some of those matchups usually have one
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  in every conference that you can really make a good case for you
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  know. Once you get towards Halloween
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  and then pretty much the entire month of November.
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  So the it does get harder than but we're still we're talking
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  about the first week in October here.
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  We're talking about a clear-cut case that are getting, is not
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  the better game. It's not it's not even
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  negotiable in terms of where they're ranked and their resume,
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  all the things that you want to talk about.
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  There's, you know, it's an even the Nay.
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  I mean, Penn State is, is still a big name in terms of The fan
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  base travels how they show up all that stuff.
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  So there's still some marking names there, Iowa has become a
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  really good kind of secondary. Yep, you know, smaller game day
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  atmosphere in the last half decade or so, we were or a
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  little bit even before that. So, yeah, that would have been a
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  good choice. But, you know, we get to see
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  Texas and Oklahoma. Again you know we'll get to talk
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  about all the all the fun things that comes along with that but
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  it just seemed like a missed opportunity, massive missed
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  opportunity. But you know it is what it is.
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  Well alright ESPN is really kind of started to cater more towards
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  Certain sectors, anyway, and it's really sad, where ESPN is
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  gone with anything that isn't there live sports presentations
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  and even then, I mean, you can tell who's getting the second
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  tier equipment and all that shit.
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  Now, it's really nice. Well, you could well, not as
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  good as last year, was the ACC networks videos compared to this
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  year because last year, some of that, Stuff was grainy.
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  It was very very yuck. Now this year it looks like they
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  are getting the better video so maybe it was just covid.
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  It's still just very fishy. All right, folks will announce
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  something. If for the next month, you see
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  me in Brian's head? Brian will be Stevie Ready Set
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  Go. You do.
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  We do this, which we will be doing a lot of playoff baseball
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  here from one currently St. Louis La 11 Brian's beloved
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  Bravo's. Are in the, I'll be starting
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  what Friday night or Friday. After just the Brew Crew is the
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  Brew Crew that's going to be a heck of a matchup myself.
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  My Cubbies are not there. We sold the farm.
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  Thank you know. You sold it early and but you
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  know No, got some return but you know, got some Red Sox, are
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  there atmosphere in Fenway. Last night was electric and then
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  that also stop bitching about the green monster Yankee fans.
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  It's been there for a while. It's been.
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  Well, you know what I kind of laugh is people were like, well,
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  that ball would have been out in any other Stadium.
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  It would have been close. It wasn't a guarantee or because
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  he was in he was in a power. He doesn't pull down the line.
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  That moment Power Alley and it was coming down, that's why I
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  didn't go out. So it would have been out in
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  maybe a third of the parks it would have been close and
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  another third and there's probably about about a third of
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  that it would have been in one try.
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  So yeah so completely quit complaining about that.
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  We both have the same Rudy interest tonight.
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  I don't care if La has 100 plus wins and they're paying
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  everybody. A million dollars.
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  We hate the Cardinals if your Cardinals fan of there.
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  If you're a Cardinals fan we're sorry it's just Cubs fan and
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  what happened a few years ago with the Braves and the infield
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  fly rule. Yeah and that was before, I mean
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  historically the Cardinals have been a team that has eliminated
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  the Braves in the playoffs. So the incident with infield fly
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  was just sawed open wound to already a history that I really
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  Unlike with that team. So Cardinals fans, nothing
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  personal. Just tired, just tired of losing
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  the Cardinals, in the playoffs. I don't want to see him.
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  Exactly. All right, Brian.
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  I threw this to you a little earlier today.
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  I think I'm decided, I think that October is the number one,
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  the goat Sports 1. Are you there or something?
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  Competing with you? I'm absolutely there.
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  I've always been there. It's just so, so much happening.
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  You got, you know, NBA and hockey gearing up.
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  You got baseball coming to a close college basketball, Oak
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  gearing up your, in the meat of the schedule for college
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  football. You got NFL, you got kind of
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  the, the downswing of the golf season.
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  I mean, you got a little bit of everything.
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  Nothing. And it's literally going to
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  starting last night in going forward.
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  I don't think there will not be a live sporting event of some
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  type on from now, until November like legitimately.
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  I think if you look at the schedule between Collegiate
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  football, pro football, baseball, and then obviously,
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  it's a preseason NBA games and preseason, hockey games, and
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  they'll be starting near the end of the month.
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  It's like one of those. if you're out there and you're
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  married, if you haven't watched many sports over the last couple
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  months, Go for it, just not what watching baseball tomorrow.
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  What about tomorrow night football?
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  Then what baseball? Then what everyone else
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  everything then, you know, Virginia Tech's playing a
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  preseason game that's on the Acca but just all some Monk, the
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  weather's cool them down, you go outside, you know, went to a
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  neighbor's house last Saturday night had a little whiskey neat
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  had to Fire pit gone. We were watching the Clemson
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  game for a little while, so it's just that time of year, man.
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  It's perfect. It's lovely, it's cooling down.
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  You get to like pair it with some other like, good fun,
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  family activity. So you kind of are off the hook
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  for sitting in front of a TV. The rest of the day.
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  Yeah. Actually let's get this into the
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  morning, ladies and gentlemen. So we, so I can go and sit in
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  front of the television, from noon to 7, O'clock depending on
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  how many games you want to watch and go and go into the night.
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  Exactly. And depending on the good gains
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  that good game starts at nine. Like go ahead and book me for a
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  good 12, 13 hours on my butt. And I'm sure with you Brian to
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  lot easier to smoke in the fall. You're not.
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  Yeah, it's going to be better once we move in January, but
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  right now it's nice. Is because where I usually am
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  smoking in the backyard gets like direct sunlight in the
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  afternoon, so it gets hot even under the shade there so it'll
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  be nice in the in the new house with better better shade.
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  But yeah, it once it cools down in October, it gets nicer.
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  We're getting into Chile season here.
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  So we are officially last weekend.
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  You could not last In two weekends ago you would be okay.
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  Last weekend was do warm this weekend.
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  What are we looking? Look whether looking like we're
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  going to give you a fish oil chili score here it is going to
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  be 72 it some chances of rain on Saturday okay I give that an
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  a-minus few degrees cooler would be an A but a - really cook
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  usually under seven is perfect but under 70 is perfect.
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  You can get away with under 75 if it's raining it.
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  And that's, that's what here in the RV.
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  VA and it's looking like that up in Blacksburg to Brian.
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  So let's turn over a couple Hokies Notes From The Four
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  Winds, a press conference. There was no update on Silas
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  tansy and basically he said they're going to find out as
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  they go through the week. What do you take from that?
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  Sounds like it's day-to-day and sounds like they are preparing
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  this week as if they don't have him and we'll adjust
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  accordingly. If he is available, you don't
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  think it's gamesmanship where it very well?
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  Don't be it very well could be, but it's hard to tell with
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  Wednesday though, right? Because everything is played so
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  close to the chest. You can't tell when when he is
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  being a little little hesitant with the truth there.
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  Exactly, so hard to tell. Well, let's hope he's there
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  because he is one of our best five offensive linemen.
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  I think it's our Collective opinion.
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  Wherever there are even if he's playing tackle or guard, he
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  helps the team significantly. All right, Brian, let's talk
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  about the next thing. They were talking about the
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  young players and he talked about primarily the to Jalen's
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  out of Virginia, down strowman and Jalen Jones out of here, out
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  here, in the 804 talk about they had Been close to playing, but
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  they've been held back for various reasons.
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  I must we know about Jones injury.
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  We hadn't heard about Stroman, we saw strowman, the first game
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  had not seen him since You know, wide receiver wise.
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  It's like I'm not worried because the way it looks for not
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  rotating guys, you know, although Justin Fuente has said,
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  we need six to eight guys rotating.
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  We've never rotated anymore in like 4 and when we do see it,
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  the second team doesn't really get a whole lot of run when
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  they're in there. They're mostly there to block
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  and make way for, you know, throws to the running backs and
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  tight ends or the old definitely.
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  Still get the judges. We get motion.
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  What strong even though it's sort of strowman.
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  You feel like, because of what happened with Taylor, you feel
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  like starting was pushing too deep and then you saw him quite
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  a number of special teams play against North Carolina and then
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  he's been out. The kid has a head for football.
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  I think if nothing else even as good as his special teams has
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  been hitting him back and just getting him some reps.
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  In some way you're going to just quickly.
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  We develop him and obviously, what the safety position.
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  Depth-wise long term. Yeah, and I think, you know, in
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  terms of front end, I think we're okay there, we don't need
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  him to be there, but having him, there would definitely give us a
• 24:46
  little bit more cushion and obviously probably, you know,
• 24:50
  push forward his development as well, which I think is important
• 24:53
  for the long-term abso-freaking-lutely.
• 24:56
  All right, Brian. The next comments.
• 25:00
  Oh buddy. So, Justin Fuente decided to say
• 25:05
  they must tailor make this offense to have success in any
• 25:08
  mentions about getting the running game going and he has to
• 25:11
  find ways to get Playmakers involved.
• 25:15
  I'm gonna go on this one first. Yep.
• 25:18
  You have Middle Tennessee, State, and you had Richmond to
• 25:21
  do that. Against Middle Tennessee.
• 25:25
  State has Brian stated, you went so vanilla and then it gets
• 25:30
  Richmond, more vanilla. So to me no you don't.
• 25:36
  You don't because if you wanted to try to get people involved
• 25:39
  and try to tailor, make an offense, your to lesser
• 25:42
  opponents, who would have less chance to win a game.
• 25:46
  Even if you made some mistakes, you chose not to Yeah, it's
• 25:55
  really weird statement and this has been something historically
• 25:57
  that we've seen with this team, right?
• 26:00
  Yeah. We kind of saw new wrinkles and
• 26:03
  changes being made, you know after Duke before Miami in 2019
• 26:10
  we've seen this staff, typically make these wholesale changes of
• 26:16
  how we're approaching the offense going into games that
• 26:20
  are big Not those tune-ups, it's something something that
• 26:24
  matters, either in that, in terms of the coastal or
• 26:27
  something that matters in terms of the program perception.
• 26:30
  And not just, you know, take Taking games, like, as you said
• 26:34
  Richmond, Middle, Tennessee, State to really kind of smooth
• 26:37
  out the edges. We haven't taken advantage of
• 26:40
  that and then we've had to hope that we're doing it on the Fly
• 26:43
  against better competition, which is strange because Playing
• 26:49
  off of that. We've played down to lesser
• 26:52
  competition, and play up to the competition in games that we
• 26:57
  thought. You know, we there we were at
• 26:59
  least a 50% chance of losing if not more.
• 27:03
  So it's really interesting how they approach this because of
• 27:06
  that history as well. It's very true man.
• 27:10
  And again, you hate trying to make any wholesale changes going
• 27:14
  into this game especially and then going back out of season
• 27:19
  when you had those games. And again, when I hear Taylor me
• 27:23
  in an offense, I will not believe it until I see it.
• 27:26
  Yep. Mom leave until I see it because
• 27:30
  you're now selling me the empty bill of goods.
• 27:34
  Oh, we're going to tailor, make it 0 best passing game ever,
• 27:37
  dude. I just, I don't believe you
• 27:38
  anymore. Like, until you show me on the
• 27:41
  field and whether it, whether some of those comments are
• 27:46
  trying to gas up players that you think are listening to what
• 27:50
  you're saying during these pressors versus actually talking
• 27:53
  to the media. Like, at some point.
• 27:58
  You know, you're losing the fans Goodwill as your gassing up,
• 28:03
  these players that you think you're helping.
• 28:06
  But doing so, because we're not seeing anything.
• 28:09
  Yeah, we're not seeing, there's not either a visible change of
• 28:14
  something. Different happening on the
• 28:16
  offense, a something verbalized to us saying well fans Weiss is
• 28:21
  going to call the plays so it's nothing visual.
• 28:24
  It's nothing verbal, it's just or, you know, oh we're going to
• 28:29
  Let's go away. Find that.
• 28:32
  Yeah. Define it.
• 28:33
  What are you Taylor making? What are you doing?
• 28:36
  Are you actually going to throw the ball?
• 28:38
  Are you actually going to do things different?
• 28:40
  Because you know, I can't take your work.
• 28:44
  I can't take your word anymore. Yeah we'll stick it at that.
• 28:47
  All right. Something that somebody brought
• 28:49
  up. I wish I could remember the poor
• 28:50
  who asked a question about playing in the big games because
• 28:54
  we have played into very big game this year you and see you
• 28:57
  know prompt Time 6:00 packed Stadium.
• 29:02
  It was one of the three best games of that.
• 29:04
  We opening weekend, and the West Virginia game of that weekend.
• 29:08
  You know, 12 o'clock game. You know, FS1.
• 29:13
  Lot of publicity about it hostile atmosphere.
• 29:17
  Yeah. So, you know, the point was made
• 29:20
  that, yes, it, this is actually good for the team going into
• 29:22
  this game because again, it's a sellout.
• 29:25
  You're going to have the stadium, absolutely jam-packed.
• 29:28
  It's going to be loud. You know what?
• 29:31
  She was on ABC, colleague would be on ABC if they hadn't forced
• 29:37
  this to the ACC Network because they're showing their doing
• 29:41
  Nebraska Michigan and you know we only can get Notre Dame a
• 29:47
  couple times a year. I think they would have thrown
• 29:49
  them on ABC because they know it's going to do a number.
• 29:54
  By the way, how are you watching the game?
• 29:56
  Since it's not on, you know, it's only if you see network I
• 30:00
  am signing into my father. My father-in-law's Verizon FiOS
• 30:06
  account to watch it again. Nah, you don't have Hulu, Hulu,
• 30:14
  has it all. I've got ESP n plus but they you
• 30:19
  don't get the ACC Network. Proper you just get a sec
• 30:22
  Network extra really? Yeah.
• 30:25
  Okay. For the was it 23 million
• 30:29
  people? That would Comcast, which I
• 30:31
  think 17 or 18 of them. Are all these goes, call your
• 30:36
  cable subscriber and tell them to just get the SEC network, or
• 30:41
  do with everybody else. There's been so many people wise
• 30:45
  cable losing customers things like this.
• 30:49
  So super interesting big time. All right, well Brian before we
• 30:53
  jump into knowing the enemy, he knowing the Irish we are going
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  Now back to the episode. All right Brian let's start it
• 31:29
  off. You know the enemy we're going
• 31:31
  to jump on the offensive side of the ball.
• 31:33
  And let's start, let's start the offensive line because there has
• 31:36
  been some struggles, their form and Brian.
• 31:39
  Here's some of the data I've got for you.
• 31:41
  They are out of 130 teams. They are 128, insects allowed,
• 31:46
  they're averaging over four and a half per game, and they're
• 31:50
  losing close to 25 yards. Again, it's that is a big
• 31:54
  number. Regardless of the number of
• 31:56
  sacks tackles for loss allowed. They're 129 out of 130.
• 32:05
  No judge. Yeah.
• 32:07
  Just about nine and a half per game allowed, and right at 36
• 32:12
  yards. So, this team's losing behind
• 32:16
  the line of scrimmage close to 60 yards a game.
• 32:19
  I mean, that's insane. What is to take telling you?
• 32:21
  Brian. The tape is telling me that the
• 32:25
  interior that offensive line is giving up a ton of penetration
• 32:28
  and the tackles are only average at Best in past Pro.
• 32:33
  So they're getting their mostly in Mobile quarterback sacked a
• 32:37
  lot and they are making their running backs up to run the hump
• 32:43
  and get outside in the alley because the only weird place
• 32:46
  they're gaining positive. Yardage is when they are able to
• 32:49
  get to the outside alley. They are not getting hardly
• 32:52
  anything up the gut. Yeah, probably across the board.
• 32:57
  I mean, big-time tackles for loss and they're not allowing
• 33:02
  their backs to really We get to the second level in the middle
• 33:04
  of the of the offense, and that's a big problem because
• 33:09
  that means that they're their backs are having to run,
• 33:11
  laterally, way more than they should in the running game.
• 33:18
  Yeah. And it makes sense, right?
• 33:20
  I mean they lost three NFL lineman, you know, Liam
• 33:24
  eichenberg when the second round and Banks went in the second
• 33:27
  round, the guard and Robert Haynes doing in the fourth round
• 33:31
  most teams. Even the really, really teams
• 33:33
  that recruit at the level they recruit at when you lose that
• 33:37
  kind of experience and talent and guys, who are getting
• 33:40
  evaluated and getting drafted that you don't replace it.
• 33:44
  I think it's interesting. Brian, you talk about the
• 33:47
  rushing? Numbers.
• 33:48
  Like, I like how bad is that? I mean, are they even cracking
• 33:51
  100 a game? Now, they're averaging one of us
• 33:57
  e 2.7 yards per carry. Oh, they're making us look good.
• 34:02
  It's atrocious. And a lot of that is that
• 34:07
  negative yardage that you're talking about.
• 34:11
  They're you know, they're not getting thrown for a 1-yard loss
• 34:15
  and then they're throwing a Of yard gain on top of that,
• 34:19
  they're getting thrown for a five or six yard loss and then
• 34:22
  throwing a 7-yard gain on it. So the net is pretty bad and
• 34:28
  it's trickling down and you know when you don't have a
• 34:32
  quarterback that can move around a lot that's not opening up any
• 34:37
  other lanes. For those rushers to really get
• 34:41
  to that second level route, they're really dangerous when
• 34:44
  they can get to the second level.
• 34:45
  They've just having such a hard time doing it right now.
• 34:47
  Now I hear you and you already mentioned the quarterback a
• 34:51
  couple times. They're in a true debacle right
• 34:53
  now. Brian, you've got the 63, 220 63
• 34:57
  star Jack cone, the Wisconsin transfer, he's got solid
• 35:01
  numbers, through five games, 1,100 yards, 9 touchdowns, three
• 35:04
  interceptions, 60 percent completion.
• 35:07
  His best game was clearly out of the gate against FSU in that
• 35:10
  shootout. You mentioned him being a
• 35:15
  mobile. Obviously if he was So a mobile
• 35:18
  that he's getting killed. Why is he still the quarterback?
• 35:20
  What is he bringing to the table something.
• 35:24
  So the big thing he's bringing to the table, is he can make all
• 35:27
  the throws, he's got the arm and he is definitely.
• 35:31
  The more polished the more seasoned, the more experienced
• 35:35
  player of the the big to we'll talk about Pine here in a few
• 35:41
  minutes. Yeah.
• 35:42
  And he's and he's the known quantity, he's the safer choice
• 35:45
  and I feel like that's kind of where they are.
• 35:47
  They are especially with their struggles, on the offensive
• 35:49
  line. They kind of went with the safer
• 35:52
  Choice, thinking that would kind of buoy them a little bit.
• 35:55
  Despite his shortcomings with his athleticism.
• 35:59
  Yeah. It makes sense too because a
• 36:01
  couple years ago at Wisconsin, before he got overtaken, he had
• 36:05
  a solid season had like twenty three touchdowns to like nine
• 36:08
  interceptions 62 percent completion percentage.
• 36:11
  It was like okay this makes sense.
• 36:15
  And then, you know, last week, Drew Prime.
• 36:18
  The 511 200 pound four star. He gets some significant playing
• 36:23
  time and it was on top of a game after the Wisconsin game where
• 36:27
  he got some time there too. You know so far only include
• 36:32
  completing 50 percent of his passes on for 224 yards and a
• 36:35
  couple touchdowns but clearly if watching that Cincinnati game
• 36:39
  when he came in he was a spark, he has a spark, he got them back
• 36:43
  in that game. What do you see on the tape from
• 36:46
  him? I mean he's not the elite
• 36:50
  athlete but he's a significant upgrade in athleticism from cone
• 36:54
  morion book for it. Okay, yeah.
• 36:58
  Yeah you know he's not going to be a that guy that's going out
• 37:02
  there and completely tearing you up.
• 37:04
  But he's, you know, he'll get first downs.
• 37:07
  He'll scramble, you can you can design runs to him and feel
• 37:11
  comfortable doing that. And in the passing game, he does
• 37:14
  throw a pretty decent deep ball. He's not super accurate in the
• 37:19
  intermediate and that's where a lot of his incompletions are
• 37:21
  coming in, okay. But when he sees guys coming
• 37:24
  open in the in the back of the defense he does a good job of
• 37:29
  getting the ball out there to them and he still does a pretty
• 37:33
  good job of kind of that short passing game to the running
• 37:37
  backs where they can get those athletes out in space.
• 37:40
  All right, let me ask this Braun when you when you were looking
• 37:43
  at the tape with him. Was he much quicker?
• 37:47
  Because obviously we're showing here and the tape showing the
• 37:51
  debt, the stats are showing, is he quicker to just as soon as
• 37:54
  the line breaks down, is he immediately moving getting out
• 37:58
  the pocket trying to do something?
• 38:01
  Or she staying in there a little longer he, when he is
• 38:06
  comfortable with the play, he will stay in there longer.
• 38:10
  When, even, if there is pressure bearing down when he isn't as
• 38:16
  comfortable with, The play as soon as that first read isn't
• 38:19
  there. He's willing to take off if he
• 38:20
  feels any sort of pressure, so it's really kind of a mixed bag.
• 38:24
  A lot of times when it says, throw that he's comfortable
• 38:27
  with, he'll hang in there to try to make it.
• 38:30
  But, I mean, based on the depth chart that Notre Dame put out
• 38:34
  there, it looks like cone is still the number one guy will
• 38:36
  see how many, how long that lasts, how quick the hook is and
• 38:42
  what, or whether they end up mixing in Pine with comb
• 38:46
  through. Out the game.
• 38:47
  Like, we've seen a couple of other teams do against the so
• 38:50
  far. All right.
• 38:51
  Let me ask this, Brian just straight-up.
• 38:53
  What's your preference for Saturday night?
• 38:55
  Who takes, who do you want to take an 85, or 90 percent of
• 38:57
  snaps? I won't cone.
• 38:59
  I want, you know, because he's the known quantity, he's the guy
• 39:03
  that we've got the most tape on. And he's also the guy that if we
• 39:07
  can, hold their running game and check, we can make a very
• 39:11
  one-dimensional offense. All right.
• 39:15
  Yeah, I'm with you on that. And also just from hearing from
• 39:18
  the different beat reporters throughout the week.
• 39:23
  In South Bend, it looks like they're going to go to Jack comb
• 39:26
  route. How quick is the hook?
• 39:28
  I think that's going to be very interesting to see.
• 39:32
  Although with J Hamm, I think you would make a quick
• 39:34
  adjustment. I don't think we'd have to wait
• 39:36
  for two and a half or three quarters, but the other piece
• 39:40
  too is, you know, is go back to the offensive line.
• 39:43
  But also So Pine, if you decide to throw five, offensive
• 39:47
  linemen, who have never been in an atmosphere, like it's going
• 39:50
  to be Saturday night. And then you three quarterback,
• 39:54
  In an atmosphere like it's going to be Saturday night.
• 39:57
  At least you can say with cone. Well, you know, he played some
• 40:02
  Big Ten teams he played in tough environments, he's got that
• 40:06
  going for him. So do you want five guys or
• 40:10
  three guys who have played in tough environments or do you
• 40:13
  want six guys who've never played in a tough environment.
• 40:16
  Yeah yeah and Cone cone definitely has played in games
• 40:21
  that matter in atmospheres like that before.
• 40:25
  More than likely something. That was, that would be akin to
• 40:27
  Beaver Stadium. I would imagine big house.
• 40:31
  I can't remember how many games he played in, whether he saw
• 40:36
  both the stadiums, but he's definitely having to have that
• 40:39
  big 10 resume. He's definitely played in at
• 40:41
  least one stadium. That will have something in the
• 40:45
  ballpark of what Lane will offer.
• 40:47
  So he's probably the better better choice in terms of being
• 40:51
  able to handle that type of environment.
• 40:54
  The Horseshoe and, and then the Sea of red down in Nebraska
• 40:59
  tokenism, who big ones. So and he also played in a Rose
• 41:04
  Bowl atmosphere. So, um, yeah.
• 41:07
  Alright Braun. Lets Roll onto this.
• 41:10
  You mentioned those running back a couple times.
• 41:12
  They're not looking to the best so far this year.
• 41:15
  But man, we know that they are dangerous and I want to start
• 41:19
  with the one-two punch. Let's start with kind.
• 41:24
  Eames 59, 199 pounds or Star. So far this year to .89 289
• 41:31
  yards, 3.8 per carry and three touchdowns.
• 41:34
  Also, 174 receiving yards, 12.4 perception with two touchdowns
• 41:41
  and I tell you last year, man. 1,400 yards from scrimmage hell
• 41:46
  of a year. What is he bringing to the table
• 41:49
  of this one? Two punch with him and Chris
• 41:51
  Tyree. Yeah, he's the more Shifty
• 41:55
  running back and probably a hair better in the passing game, then
• 42:00
  Tyree great use of patience. When running the outside Zone,
• 42:05
  kind of lets things set up and then kind of gets in the alley
• 42:09
  and can make us miss at the second level and does a really
• 42:12
  good job of catching the ball out of the Outfield and kind of
• 42:15
  hitting home runs that way. Good Vision in the open, feel to
• 42:20
  turn a small gain into a big one for that offense.
• 42:23
  Ants. Nice and obviously the second
• 42:28
  guy of this one-two punches, a guy if you're a hockey fan to
• 42:33
  hook you and you should be familiar with them.
• 42:34
  If you're here in the RV with us you should be super familiar
• 42:37
  with them. Chris Tyree out of Thomas Dale
• 42:40
  in the r-va here or Star. He was the top all-purpose back.
• 42:45
  When he came out, he was a top 75 player.
• 42:48
  He was a top-five player in Virginia.
• 42:50
  One of those we missed on. Yep. 59 and a half hundred
• 42:54
  ninety. Pounds a triple threat to me.
• 42:59
  Haven't got that many carries this year 98 yards with a
• 43:02
  touchdown. 117 yards in the passing game with a touchdown
• 43:08
  and then to 38 in the kick return game with a touchdown.
• 43:12
  He's averaging almost 30 per kick return.
• 43:15
  So we see another Elite kick returner, which is becoming this
• 43:20
  very, very worrisome, as good as its played and you know last
• 43:26
  year thousand all-purpose yards. 4 touchdowns on he's fast.
• 43:32
  Like super fun. Yes.
• 43:35
  Yeah. He's definitely fast.
• 43:37
  He's more the one cut back and go.
• 43:40
  He's got speed for days. Once he gets to the The second
• 43:43
  level can really affect the game in the return game.
• 43:46
  I know he did fumble a kickoff return against Cincinnati that
• 43:52
  set them up for a field goal to make it a 10 nothing game there
• 43:56
  but you know when he when he gets them in there he's doing a
• 44:00
  lot of good things with a football setting them up and
• 44:03
  pretty good field position in the kick return game and he is
• 44:08
  also very dangerous in the passing game much like Does a
• 44:13
  good job in the open field. He has that Vision which you
• 44:16
  expect from a guy that is also a kick returner, right?
• 44:19
  Getting the ball in the open field and be able to read those
• 44:21
  blocks in space. So, in terms of Home Run threat,
• 44:26
  he's a little bit more of the Home Run threat.
• 44:28
  But isn't as much of a impact For You Down by down just
• 44:34
  because it is a little bit of more little bit more feast or
• 44:36
  famine with him because of his run Style.
• 44:41
  Absolutely and again it's just one of those guys that it's a
• 44:45
  pain to see and especially it's more of a pain to see you and
• 44:48
  you when he says, I can't wait to smell Virginia Air and play
• 44:52
  in that stadium. That always is a little just you
• 44:56
  just ripped it out. Just ripped out the heart.
• 44:59
  Chris don't say things like that.
• 45:01
  Yeah. I mean, you look at saying if
• 45:03
  you love if he was saying it, you know, as a hokey and not
• 45:09
  visiting from bashing. So I mean when we first started
• 45:13
  this podcast we they had just kind of closed on that class and
• 45:18
  we talked we talked about how that was a big Miss for us and
• 45:22
  you know, we're seeing that kind of come to fruition here, you
• 45:27
  know, with him having some success, good success, as a
• 45:29
  freshman, and even with a completely shoddy offensive
• 45:35
  line, still being able to make some plays here.
• 45:37
  And there in this offense this year Yeah, so that's to me,
• 45:41
  that's the big thing is we've kind of correlated that
• 45:44
  offensive lines bad, but if you give one of these guys or both,
• 45:47
  these guys are Kris, they can make you pay.
• 45:50
  So you know we'll discuss some of those points later.
• 45:54
  All right? Brian this guy.
• 45:56
  Jesus Lord their top receiving threat.
• 45:59
  Michael Mayer. The tight end.
• 46:00
  The 2025 star. S.
• 46:04
  Tightening the country. Top 25 player.
• 46:06
  He 64 hes 249. I looked at some of his when he
• 46:11
  was at the, the showcases runs like a low 48, his shuttle
• 46:16
  drills are pretty much, those Elite like what you see in FL
• 46:21
  tight ends do and then obviously his size, he's built like a
• 46:26
  prototypical paid in. He's like 19.
• 46:29
  You know, so far this year, 360 yards, three touchdowns 11.3 per
• 46:34
  catch, again, leading the both in yards and receptions.
• 46:39
  He could be a big problem even if we are able to create
• 46:43
  pressure and he, yeah, and he's the guy that's we with the
• 46:47
  sticks for them. You know, they try to do the
• 46:50
  short passing game with the running backs.
• 46:52
  And then hit Mike. Mayor on some stick movie where
• 46:56
  out And I think the big thing that he brings to the table.
• 47:02
  Is like you said, a good combination of above average
• 47:06
  speed for a tight end, at the Collegiate level paired with the
• 47:10
  typical NFL size and that's going to be something that we've
• 47:15
  got to keep in check because we want to be able to get this team
• 47:19
  off the field and he's the guy that it's extends drives for
• 47:21
  them and the receivers they are. They're solid, but they are more
• 47:30
  they'll you know they'll hit them on like a 20 or 30 yard
• 47:33
  play and then they disappear for a quarter.
• 47:37
  This is the guy that you've got to worry about down by down
• 47:39
  series by series every time they're on the field essentially
• 47:44
  whether it'd probably be calling our Pine.
• 47:45
  They're going to be looking for him it's probably their first
• 47:48
  read. Every time is going to be
• 47:49
  wherever he's going. He's either the primary threat
• 47:54
  or he is the 100% secondary route, no matter what the
• 47:59
  primary this let me ask this, just looking at the tape.
• 48:04
  Is he primarily in line? Are we going to see him at
• 48:07
  several positions? He's going to line up all over
• 48:10
  the offense, they'll split them out.
• 48:11
  They'll put him in the wing, they'll put him in line, you
• 48:15
  know, they'll even move him into the backfield on occasion.
• 48:18
  So, he'll line up all over the field, they try to find creative
• 48:20
  ways to get him out. And where you can't just jam it
• 48:24
  off the line of scrimmage to get him off his route.
• 48:26
  So that's going to be something we need to definitely focus on
• 48:30
  and make sure that we don't die a death by a Thousand Cuts and
• 48:34
  that they keep their offense on the field for four long extended
• 48:37
  drives. And when that time of possession
• 48:39
  some we can't do and I just hate using the word creative with
• 48:46
  somebody else's offense and not ours, but I digress.
• 48:50
  All right, we're going to roll on guys and now.
• 48:51
  We're going to look at the defense and, you know, let's
• 48:54
  just be straight up. If you are Virginia Tech Hokies
• 48:58
  fan and you don't know who Marcus screaming is, you
• 49:00
  probably haven't been paying attention.
• 49:04
  He is a super up-and-comer in the world of the Collegiate
• 49:06
  football coaching ranks. He's a former Buckeye.
• 49:10
  He only played one year in the NFL back in 2009, for a couple
• 49:14
  teams because essentially in the offseason and 2010, they
• 49:18
  discovered he had an enlarged heart, he had to retire and not
• 49:22
  long after that, he started the coaching ranks started as a grad
• 49:26
  assistant back. Has State then been coaching
• 49:29
  linebackers. Kent State worked his way up.
• 49:32
  Got to Purdue have to be a co-defensive coordinator.
• 49:35
  And then, obviously, over the last few years, with another
• 49:38
  Buckeye, Luke fickle down at Cincinnati where last year, they
• 49:43
  were one of the, you know, one of the best teams all around the
• 49:46
  country. In the defense, he created
• 49:49
  brine. They were a thin points per
• 49:51
  game. There are 15,000 yards, they
• 49:52
  were 11th and boisterous forced turnovers.
• 49:55
  They were Elite. Lost a close game to Georgia and
• 49:59
  then essentially got snatched away by Notre Dame and Brian
• 50:05
  Kelly. And I'm Kelly said that he hopes
• 50:09
  that he's the next coach there. I hope he's not What are you
• 50:13
  seeing from him schematically though?
• 50:16
  Brian, we've got the story behind who he is.
• 50:18
  What is he doing on the field? Yeah, so when he was at
• 50:24
  Cincinnati they ran a slightly different system than what
• 50:27
  they're doing. Now, you know, some of that is
• 50:31
  just preference. Bye bye.
• 50:32
  Kelly. Some of that is Personnel that
• 50:35
  you don't quite have to to make a wholesale transition but
• 50:40
  they're still running kind of a 4 to 5 but they Are going more
• 50:43
  of that multiple front. Look, that Freeman was famous
• 50:49
  for at Cincinnati with occasionally getting that that
• 50:54
  dollar that 326 look up front. But the base defense is still a
• 51:00
  425. They run a lot a lot of cover 1
• 51:05
  and cover three on the back end, they're very much likes to with
• 51:12
  that. You said it reminded you yeah
• 51:15
  reminds at least on the back end reminds me some of Bud in terms
• 51:19
  of how they like to work their coverages and then mix that with
• 51:24
  blitz packages. All right.
• 51:27
  What terms of just philosophy? You know it since I just said
• 51:30
  you know, but it's an aggressive philosophy and their goal is to,
• 51:35
  you know, really clog the A and B gaps on both sides of the
• 51:38
  offense and kind of force everything in to see Gap in the
• 51:40
  running game. And you in terms of the passing
• 51:44
  game, they're coming after you and try to make you make
• 51:46
  mistakes and and get some turnovers there.
• 51:49
  So they do a good job on the back, end of keeping things in
• 51:54
  front of them, their corners. Aren't Elite, but they do a good
• 51:59
  job of not like getting beat deep very often.
• 52:04
  Now, when you talk about A and B is going to see, this is what
• 52:06
  bud? You should talk about spill
• 52:08
  Lanes, right? You want it to spill outside but
• 52:10
  we are allowing the fast guys to get there versus just punishing
• 52:15
  you up the middle. Yep.
• 52:17
  Exactly. Yep.
• 52:19
  That your funneling everything to the spill Lanes that's where
• 52:22
  you got your. Usually you have your in the
• 52:27
  Older system. The whip, the Rover can make the
• 52:29
  play there your your, your backer is there as well.
• 52:34
  So that that's generally the idea of trying to force
• 52:37
  everything to those spill Lanes. Absolutely.
• 52:40
  I said, let's talk about some of these guys.
• 52:41
  Brian. Because, you know, somebody, you
• 52:44
  know, the Virginia guy, they had to replace Jeremiah who sue
• 52:47
  Kimora? You know, they had her place in
• 52:49
  and that guy was all over the place in the old system.
• 52:51
  And I think because of how They're running this new system,
• 52:57
  there they found that guy who was already a proven starter and
• 53:01
  Kyle Hamilton you know, 64, 220, you know, safety. 20:25 star.
• 53:09
  He was the top safety in the country top 15 overall and so
• 53:15
  far this year, twenty seven tackles two tackles for loss
• 53:18
  three interceptions. I'm assuming he's everywhere.
• 53:24
  Yeah he's everywhere. I mean he's technically He's
• 53:27
  listed as a free safety but they use him in just about every way
• 53:31
  that you can use a defensive back.
• 53:35
  He's at free. He's at their strong safety,
• 53:40
  sometimes. He's in the nickel.
• 53:42
  He plays their equivalent of the whip which they actually call
• 53:45
  Rover. He kind of, does it all on the
• 53:49
  back end there and And really solid tackler, but really great
• 53:54
  and coverage, both Zone and man uses his length really well and
• 54:02
  does a good job. When he gets his hands on
• 54:06
  receivers in ball carries, getting them to the ground as
• 54:08
  well. So keep an eye on him.
• 54:11
  He He had some of the sound bites.
• 54:14
  I think this week with what the referee was saying on a would
• 54:18
  look like a blatant hold against him on.
• 54:21
  I think a quarterback scramble last week ref said something
• 54:25
  about. You know you're at all American
• 54:27
  you can't get blocked or something like that or you can't
• 54:30
  get held. So he was in the, he was in the
• 54:33
  headlines this week, making a comment on that.
• 54:36
  So keep an eye out and see what what he does this week, but he's
• 54:40
  definitely one that we've got to account for.
• 54:44
  Every snap because he's going to he's going to make some plays.
• 54:48
  All right, let me let me just look for a little bit behind
• 54:52
  because obviously, he'll have one more year of Eligibility.
• 54:55
  After this, he's going to be his size, his length, whatever he's
• 55:01
  going to be a first-round safety and he which is very few and far
• 55:04
  between. Yeah, he's if he's not he's
• 55:08
  definitely a early day to guy. He's going to be one of the
• 55:14
  first to two safeties off the board more than likely.
• 55:18
  So, all right, definitely keep an eye out for him because he
• 55:21
  is, he's a playmaker. All right, well, let's now
• 55:26
  something you talked about earlier, Braun, you talked about
• 55:29
  how Marcus screaming loves to clog those A and B gaps in kind
• 55:36
  of looking through here. He's got JD Bertrand.
• 55:40
  First year starter at linebacker as a four-star 61 230 made a big
• 55:46
  impact right alligators and starter 48.
• 55:48
  Tackles one half sacks so far this year.
• 55:55
  Where is he specifically? Is he Mike, is he will.
• 55:58
  Is he weak side? Where is he linebacker while
• 56:01
  Grand? Yes.
• 56:02
  Oh he's will he does a lot in the in disrupting both the Run
• 56:07
  game and then has a good amount of coverage responsibility in
• 56:10
  the past game but he does a good job of disrupting the running
• 56:14
  game. He's the reason why they're
• 56:16
  really Stout against the run and he's a good tackler and
• 56:21
  surprisingly really he really good in coverage.
• 56:25
  I've seen him run with, you know, really good really fast
• 56:30
  running backs in coverage, really good, running with some
• 56:34
  of the slot receivers as well. Doesn't really look out of
• 56:40
  place. There he doesn't look like he's
• 56:43
  losing any athleticism to those guys.
• 56:45
  So definitely looks the part there he does.
• 56:48
  Sometimes lose leverage in the running game, so that's
• 56:51
  something. If we can get Kind of outside.
• 56:54
  We might be able to exploit that a little bit.
• 56:56
  He gave up a couple of runs where he had kind of edge
• 57:00
  responsibility and lost that leverage.
• 57:02
  So that might be a way we could take advantage of him a little
• 57:05
  bit but in terms of his style of play he's definitely a disrupter
• 57:09
  and a solid overall tackler. Excellent.
• 57:14
  Brian. What are the core?
• 57:16
  What are the core of the linebackers?
• 57:18
  Look, I mean is it is? Is everybody liked him door?
• 57:22
  They like Hamilton. You feel like there's, there's
• 57:25
  no weaknesses in his game Bertrand.
• 57:28
  You've talked about that outside run, Leverage is the linebacking
• 57:31
  corps. More like that, they're good.
• 57:33
  But they have their spots where they can be beat.
• 57:36
  Yeah, very much. That there are times where you
• 57:40
  can you can take advantage of them.
• 57:42
  But they're very good between the tackles.
• 57:45
  I hope that we can run between the tackles against them, but
• 57:48
  that's what they do. They do a really good job of
• 57:51
  kind of pushing. Everything outside is your hope
• 57:55
  we is your hope. We don't start by running
• 57:58
  between the tackles early. Yeah.
• 58:01
  I hope we kind of spread them out a little bit and get them
• 58:03
  out of that at 425 looking maybe into the more 3 to 6 and then we
• 58:08
  can kind of hit them in the middle, got it.
• 58:11
  All right well And even if we get them out of that little and
• 58:14
  we have to drop back to pass and the Isaiah foskey is a scary
• 58:19
  scary looking defensive end 65 to 60 a four-star.
• 58:25
  He was a top-15 defensive end when he came out.
• 58:28
  I mean, he's prototypical that build is a prototypical
• 58:31
  defensive end build, you know, really started producing this
• 58:35
  year. 21, tackles five, tackles for loss, five sacks in a forced
• 58:40
  fumble and You educate the people because you're going to
• 58:44
  hear this on Saturday night. They call what he plays Viper,
• 58:49
  which is cool. But what is it kind of aside
• 58:52
  from sounding cool. You know, aside from sounding
• 58:55
  like you're in Top Gun, Viper is essentially a hybrid defensive
• 59:02
  end in this system so if they're in a four-man front look, he's
• 59:06
  going to be the one of the Russians.
• 59:10
  He will play Sam line. Backer.
• 59:13
  In some of the other three man front looks and especially the
• 59:20
  32 or 33 and if they go with the like a three, four look, he will
• 59:27
  line up as a traditional Edge rusher there.
• 59:30
  So you kind of had has three hats that he wears in this
• 59:34
  defense and with that build. I mean he really does a good job
• 59:40
  of doing all of those, he's just athletic enough.
• 59:43
  Enough to kind of make make all that work and he does he is I'd
• 59:48
  say pretty heavy for a like a true Russian or Edge Defender
• 59:53
  but that size helps him when he slides into the linebacker role
• 59:56
  and is kind of running downhill. So you got to watch him.
• 1:00:01
  Especially, I saw him. Had he had a sack fumble against
• 1:00:06
  Cincinnati. He's made some other plays and
• 1:00:09
  some other games, so he can definitely impact the game.
• 1:00:13
  Mmmmm, and he impacts the game even when he's not necessarily
• 1:00:16
  at the football. So we got to make sure we get a,
• 1:00:20
  get a hat on him every time. All right, I got a quick
• 1:00:23
  question about when he's on that when they're in the four to five
• 1:00:28
  you said he's down at the end position.
• 1:00:30
  Is he playing like a nine technique?
• 1:00:32
  Or see a little closer to the offensive tackle there.
• 1:00:37
  So sometimes he is in a six hand in the dirt, sometimes he's in a
• 1:00:45
  nine handed the dirt, sometimes he's standing up.
• 1:00:47
  Okay, kind of kind of moving around between techniques So it
• 1:00:52
  really kind of depends they do it, they let him kind of
• 1:00:55
  freestyle a little bit, and that's one of the Hallmarks of a
• 1:00:59
  Freeman defense is that he trust the instincts of his players.
• 1:01:04
  So a lot of times, you know, you'll see them freestyle a
• 1:01:08
  little bit within the parameters that he set, right?
• 1:01:13
  Okay. So that's something to keep an
• 1:01:15
  eye on, as well. Got it two other guys to look
• 1:01:20
  out here for Brawn. I know we don't have as much
• 1:01:22
  info on them. Twin brothers couple Ford three
• 1:01:27
  stars about a New Jersey Jason and just Anatomy Ola Jason Plays
• 1:01:34
  defensive end I think he's a secondary Viper might play the
• 1:01:39
  opposite side as well and then Jason is a defensive tackle so
• 1:01:45
  just two other names to listen for on.
• 1:01:47
  Saturday night, guys, two brothers.
• 1:01:50
  They're all right. Brian.
• 1:01:52
  So last 30 minutes or so we've been talking about them.
• 1:01:56
  And what we've been doing every week is we've been talking about
• 1:01:59
  versions of the Hokies Alpha was great.
• 1:02:03
  Yeah, it was okay. But the last two versions
• 1:02:09
  hadn't, been that good. So yeah.
• 1:02:11
  So this week we're Epsilon in. If you I'm a nerd and the
• 1:02:18
  Epsilon definition is an arbitrary.
• 1:02:21
  Small positive quantity. Ha ha ha.
• 1:02:27
  Who's that? We need to win the quantity for
• 1:02:34
  the defense is going to be. Really solid like where they
• 1:02:38
  are, you know, statistically and how they've been playing for the
• 1:02:42
  offense who I'll take small positive versus small - right
• 1:02:47
  now crime because, you know, as we've been talking about it,
• 1:02:51
  we've got, you know, three keys here and the first thing that
• 1:02:54
  when we were talking the other day and you said to me, we've
• 1:02:58
  got to win at the point of the time we get.
• 1:03:00
  Freaking got a block to run the ball.
• 1:03:03
  Yeah, we got to be able to run the ball and like I said, I
• 1:03:06
  don't think necessarily attacking right into the meat of
• 1:03:08
  that defense. Early is the answer but we got
• 1:03:11
  to find effective ways to hopefully get to that spill
• 1:03:15
  area. But get have have blocking
• 1:03:17
  there. We can get up the alley and and
• 1:03:20
  start to get them out of their preferred look there, but I
• 1:03:24
  think Some of the other things that we're going to need to work
• 1:03:28
  in some play action because, but we need to get the running game.
• 1:03:31
  Going first for that to be truly effective, right?
• 1:03:34
  Yeah, absolutely. You know, if we, if we don't get
• 1:03:37
  the running game going, early play action is going to mean
• 1:03:39
  nothing to them because anything that he burned them pretty good
• 1:03:45
  because they had an effective running game.
• 1:03:47
  Even if it wasn't necessarily, you know, burning the world up.
• 1:03:50
  They were effective in the running game and they were able
• 1:03:52
  to hit them over the top a couple times on play action is
• 1:03:55
  true. So the other thing Braun, we
• 1:03:58
  were been talking about. You talked about scrambled
• 1:04:00
  drills getting now field, is this a game?
• 1:04:03
  You'd like to see, we hated what they did with West Virginia,
• 1:04:06
  running some Sprint outs, essentially where we can get,
• 1:04:11
  it's in a way, it's a little scramble because if he rolls out
• 1:04:13
  and there's nothing there and they stay disciplined, he might
• 1:04:17
  have beating might have 45 yards every time to just pick the
• 1:04:20
  angle. Go.
• 1:04:21
  I know you don't like cutting off a field but in this case
• 1:04:24
  yeah and I'd like To see when when BB escapes, the pocket kind
• 1:04:29
  of escaping laterally, at least initially where he can still try
• 1:04:33
  to make that throw down, fill in The Scrambled row because I feel
• 1:04:36
  like our receivers may not be open initially but I saw on tape
• 1:04:41
  where especially in the Cincinnati game but also against
• 1:04:44
  FSU where as a play kind of Drew on there were opportunities to
• 1:04:48
  get the ball down field in the passing game.
• 1:04:52
  So I think that's one way to get it going and in the short
• 1:04:55
  passing game is owing to be important as well because you
• 1:04:59
  know I think we can get them kind of moving laterally and get
• 1:05:03
  them. Like open that box up a little
• 1:05:05
  bit that will enable us to try to run between the tackles a
• 1:05:08
  little bit more and hopefully get some movement in there.
• 1:05:12
  So probably things like we saw out of the UNC game that we
• 1:05:16
  have, amazingly not been there as much before the little swings
• 1:05:21
  and stuff, through the running backs, the, the, the bubble
• 1:05:25
  screen, not the tunnel, the bubble.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah, I'm going to and run variations off that, right?
• 1:05:30
  So once you, once you show that, look, run some stuff, run some
• 1:05:33
  variations off that where they'll, you know, potentially
• 1:05:36
  bite on something they've seen and now something else is open.
• 1:05:40
  Yeah, I mean I think the short pass game is going to be
• 1:05:43
  critical because they they are going to, they're going to get
• 1:05:47
  some sacks. They're going to get us
• 1:05:50
  scrambling off times because they are a good defensive line.
• 1:05:54
  They have some solid linebacker play.
• 1:05:59
  And the one thing that we've talked about is and you hit it
• 1:06:02
  here. We didn't talk about any of the
• 1:06:03
  defensive backs, because in reality, none of them jumped off
• 1:06:06
  the tape and you've already mentioned it.
• 1:06:09
  They can be Gotten there. Can they be absolutely exploded?
• 1:06:12
  Probably not definitely not. By the way.
• 1:06:14
  We've been playing offense. But, you know, we've had, we've
• 1:06:17
  had 13 days since our last game 13 gave to self evaluate.
• 1:06:24
  If we don't start seeing the changes coming and they're not
• 1:06:28
  coming and and if you're going to say, well, we're going to win
• 1:06:31
  with what we've got. We're not going to win many with
• 1:06:35
  what we've got, because you don't have a dominant offensive
• 1:06:38
  line. Get that running game springing
• 1:06:42
  for 200 yards again. Yeah, we if we don't improve on
• 1:06:46
  offense, we've got enough to get us to a bowl game but we don't
• 1:06:49
  have enough to challenge for the coastal.
• 1:06:52
  I mean, if you look at the teams that are in a as good or better
• 1:06:57
  position than us at this point, you got to look first at at pit,
• 1:07:01
  right? And the thing that scares me
• 1:07:04
  about pit is that I'm not so much concerned that we won't be
• 1:07:08
  able to score some points. It's against their defense.
• 1:07:12
  I'm just worried about it, they keep rolling the way they are.
• 1:07:14
  That they'll be able to score more points on offense than we
• 1:07:17
  can score on offense exam that and that's not knocking our
• 1:07:20
  defense but if they can get to 30, that's probably enough.
• 1:07:25
  Yep, I agree with that. Alright, let's talk about the
• 1:07:27
  Epsilon version of the defense bar.
• 1:07:29
  And we mentioned, Tyree and Williams.
• 1:07:33
  I mean, we have to tackle like we did Carolina middle.
• 1:07:37
  Tennessee Richmond. We For we cannot afford to
• 1:07:42
  tackle like we did against West Virginia against those guys.
• 1:07:45
  Yeah. Got to bring these guys down
• 1:07:47
  because if they get to that next level they are dangerous.
• 1:07:52
  And you know I think the another thing that we need to talk about
• 1:07:55
  is that we need too much like a lot of teams have already
• 1:07:59
  against Notre Dame this year, we need to force snaps behind the
• 1:08:03
  line of scrimmage need to get some tackles for loss very
• 1:08:06
  consistently. I'd say, you know, close to a
• 1:08:09
  our of their total snaps need to be either a sack or some sort of
• 1:08:14
  tackle for loss. If we can do that then that's
• 1:08:17
  going to put them behind the chains and make them extremely
• 1:08:20
  one-dimensional and that's when they get in trouble and really
• 1:08:23
  they would have to lean on their tight end to kind of bail them
• 1:08:25
  out. Yep.
• 1:08:26
  And we've already talked about it.
• 1:08:28
  They're giving up close to about 14, tackle behind the line and
• 1:08:32
  Brian, you're saying about a quarter.
• 1:08:33
  I mean, so you're saying we've got to even go above their
• 1:08:36
  average and probably hit 15 15 to 18.
• 1:08:39
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:08:40
  Yeah, which would be a lot which would really, which would really
• 1:08:44
  set the game up for Waller and strong in Armani to attack is,
• 1:08:50
  you know, you get a second and third and 15 either either
• 1:08:54
  they're going to run draw and say, well your offense in going
• 1:08:57
  to do anything, we'll just punt it away and the last piece,
• 1:09:01
  Brian, I think me. And you talked about and it's
• 1:09:04
  what I've defensive been good at George don't matter, right?
• 1:09:10
  Points matter, I don't care what's matter, you've been
• 1:09:13
  saying, I don't care if you take it to 15 and you drive it to the
• 1:09:17
  30 you and yourself, you just got 55 yards but that is going
• 1:09:23
  to be one long field goal that goal that you're known Brian
• 1:09:29
  Kelly. He's not going to take the risk,
• 1:09:31
  go punt deep. So Drive Stoppers when they
• 1:09:35
  cross that Midfield, you mentioned to me.
• 1:09:37
  You said they cross Midfield, that's where they have stopped.
• 1:09:40
  Top dip and and Hamilton has done a good job of mixing in
• 1:09:47
  some some blitzes, or some different coverages that really
• 1:09:51
  throw teams off. Once they cross the 50, this
• 1:09:53
  year, yes he has. And so hopefully he keeps that
• 1:09:56
  up, where it gets us off, the field forces, a field goal, you
• 1:10:02
  know, whatever may be and hopefully even you know, force a
• 1:10:04
  turnover or a sack fumble or something like that,
• 1:10:06
  interception, that gets us the ball back.
• 1:10:10
  And they've done a good job with that this year and hopefully
• 1:10:12
  they keep that up against Notre Dame because they did turn the
• 1:10:15
  ball over against Cincinnati. So they are not a clean and
• 1:10:19
  perfect team with the football. So there's going to be some
• 1:10:22
  opportunities for the defense to get the ball back on those on
• 1:10:25
  those plays. Absolutely.
• 1:10:29
  Well, Brian, we talked about them, we've talked about us,
• 1:10:32
  it's time to give our predictions here.
• 1:10:34
  Brian, and I'll let you leave the way this week, man.
• 1:10:40
  You know, I feel good about this game in a lot of ways but I'm
• 1:10:44
  just concerned about the offense and I'm so concerned, I think
• 1:10:48
  that it's just going to be too much.
• 1:10:50
  I think it's going to be 23:14, I think we're going to struggle
• 1:10:54
  to really consistently, run the football and I think that's
• 1:10:58
  going to be our undoing. And ultimately, probably have
• 1:11:03
  have a turnover that really kind of, kind of puts the puts a
• 1:11:06
  knife in our back to close it out there.
• 1:11:08
  But I think it's a close. Game four for three quarters and
• 1:11:11
  then they kind of we finally make that mistake.
• 1:11:14
  They really gets them the double-digit advantage there at
• 1:11:17
  the end. Yeah, I'm not far behind you.
• 1:11:20
  I put it close. I do put Notre Dame, winning
• 1:11:23
  this game 2117, and for me it's just the, the offensive eyes I
• 1:11:30
  tested. We're failing it in every way in
• 1:11:33
  the statistics prove it and you can say, well, we're just
• 1:11:36
  missing one or two passes. One or two passes.
• 1:11:39
  Don't Make you almost, you know, one of the basically, the
• 1:11:46
  quarter worst teams in the country of Italy, they don't, if
• 1:11:49
  you want to argue that point, that it's just a pass here.
• 1:11:52
  Just one run Lane if you cut this way?
• 1:11:54
  No, no. If you were 50th.
• 1:11:58
  Yes, one or two passes. Put you in the top 25 one or two
• 1:12:02
  passes, doesn't bring you from being terrible to being a really
• 1:12:06
  good offense. It just doesn't.
• 1:12:09
  And I I think what I think it's going to be bronzed.
• 1:12:12
  I think our defense are going to probably play their asses off.
• 1:12:15
  I think that crowds going to be electric.
• 1:12:16
  I don't think they're going to have a tough time hearing
• 1:12:19
  they're going to probably have some false start penalties but I
• 1:12:22
  think what's probably going to happen is where one time you
• 1:12:28
  know I think defense is going to put us in good positions and
• 1:12:31
  their defense is going to put them in some good positions and
• 1:12:34
  they're going to capitalize just a little more and you We've been
• 1:12:39
  going through this every time when one of us or both of us
• 1:12:43
  choose a loss. We're going to say how we win
• 1:12:47
  and Brian kick it off of what you got the first, the first,
• 1:12:50
  big thing. Yeah, in already said it, we
• 1:12:52
  were talked about the defense, but the defense has to force
• 1:12:54
  field goals instead of touchdowns.
• 1:12:56
  If they have good drives, they need to end in three points.
• 1:12:59
  Not touchdowns. All right, so key one there guys
• 1:13:04
  field goals and obviously in brine scenario, you've got them
• 1:13:08
  getting down there. Five times, kicking three field,
• 1:13:10
  goals, you say you need left. You need less than three.
• 1:13:13
  Any more than three you need 2025 for us to win.
• 1:13:18
  And I'm I'm similar, I've got them scored three touchdowns.
• 1:13:22
  So if you tell him, either we hold them to a couple field
• 1:13:25
  goals. Yeah, we can win this game.
• 1:13:28
  That's next thing we brought up here was in Bryan, has already
• 1:13:31
  said, we have to establish the run early and then mixing the
• 1:13:35
  passing attack as we get into the game.
• 1:13:38
  And it's true in, in a, we sin is in a rethinking Ron and then
• 1:13:44
  start taking shots start. No.
• 1:13:47
  Start pepper and easy passes, start pepper and smart passes.
• 1:13:53
  Essentially what I hope we don't do Brian has I really hope we
• 1:13:57
  run. I hope we start outside Zone us.
• 1:13:59
  Hope we start outside in running the ball.
• 1:14:02
  I hope this is not weak Force last year where we literally ran
• 1:14:06
  it their best player, the whole game.
• 1:14:09
  And we know that the best part of this defense is here.
• 1:14:13
  So I hope that doesn't happen. But if we can get it, Only this
• 1:14:18
  attack the edges to meet earlier where the linebackers are, maybe
• 1:14:22
  hesitating a few second tenth of a second in the middle of field.
• 1:14:26
  Where later in the game, when you run a jet motion then you
• 1:14:30
  can come back with that inside Zone and because they took that
• 1:14:32
  awkward step. One of them can get up here and
• 1:14:35
  drive them out the way. Yeah.
• 1:14:38
  What about some actual true read option.
• 1:14:45
  My eye twitching here. Yeah.
• 1:14:47
  Read options. Yes.
• 1:14:49
  Yep. Because again, it's attacking
• 1:14:51
  the outside, right? And then it's making them have
• 1:14:55
  to make decisions and eventually they make the wrong decisions.
• 1:14:59
  You are able to go up on that inside, low, something like
• 1:15:01
  that, we can run talk about them again.
• 1:15:04
  Yeah, we talked about them occasion, losing leverage in the
• 1:15:07
  running game on the edge. That's what we got to take
• 1:15:10
  advantage of early, so we can kind of loosen.
• 1:15:12
  Them up so we can run inside. But the other thing we need to
• 1:15:15
  do, you know, back to the defense, we got to force them to
• 1:15:17
  drive the field long, and we've done a good job with that,
• 1:15:20
  right? So far this year, we've done a
• 1:15:22
  good job with controlling field position to making them Drive
• 1:15:25
  the field and what that does is the more plays.
• 1:15:29
  They have to run to move the ball down the field, the more
• 1:15:31
  prone they are to make a mistake at some point whether that is,
• 1:15:35
  you know, on the offensive line where they give up a key sack on
• 1:15:38
  third down, or whether that's making turnovers or you know,
• 1:15:41
  giving up a fumble Ever may be the further, you make a team,
• 1:15:45
  have to go the more at they are to do something to screw up that
• 1:15:49
  drive. Very true.
• 1:15:52
  Last piece we've done this very well, this year.
• 1:15:55
  It's why we're three in one. And I know if you follow Twitter
• 1:16:01
  or social media, or listen, you would swear some people, the way
• 1:16:05
  they react, where your Owen 14, we're three in one, we're in a
• 1:16:10
  division race, the a ACC and the reason we've been able to do
• 1:16:14
  that is offensive and special teams have played super clean
• 1:16:19
  minimal turnovers. We have to keep that here.
• 1:16:22
  If we turn the ball, if we turn the ball over in any sort of
• 1:16:25
  capacity driving in for a score Deep In the Zone like we did
• 1:16:30
  against Richmond or in the middle of the field.
• 1:16:35
  If we do that, we're giving them the extra opportunities.
• 1:16:37
  We have to get those opportunities as Brian just said
• 1:16:40
  a few seconds ago, well, we're going to need them to generate
• 1:16:43
  points on our end. We can't give them something
• 1:16:45
  back to offset that. Now, if we do all this, do I
• 1:16:51
  think, like we blow the doors off of them.
• 1:16:53
  Win by 23 touchdowns? No, I think it's just a flip
• 1:16:56
  script of probably what we're thinking of our scores.
• 1:16:59
  Yes, the motor dame. We think Virginia Tech because
• 1:17:02
  we did everything. Perfect.
• 1:17:06
  Yeah. I mean, it's definitely like a
• 1:17:08
  329 Point Victory. The other way we can put all
• 1:17:11
  these things together and a lot of that's going to depend on if
• 1:17:16
  we put those things together and we also Force like a pick six or
• 1:17:19
  a special teams touchdown or something like that.
• 1:17:23
  That's something that could really kind of put it, put it at
• 1:17:25
  the higher in there. So yeah, I mean, we are picking
• 1:17:29
  against the Hokies this week but we are still positive, that
• 1:17:33
  there's a chance out there. To pull, pull the pull the wind,
• 1:17:38
  we just got to we got to put a lot of pieces together this week
• 1:17:40
  us and we got to see improvement from a certain part of the team.
• 1:17:44
  All right Brian. Let's head over to Saturday.
• 1:17:46
  Pick them's. You boys want 500 last week very
• 1:17:51
  rough week. You know.
• 1:17:52
  Spelled all out. Brian Steele, 27.
• 1:17:55
  And 25. Two games above.
• 1:17:56
  I'm right at 26 and 26. Here's the funny part. we
• 1:18:03
  literally line up and just say, let's pick these games we aren't
• 1:18:07
  going through games saying, like, you know, I don't like
• 1:18:13
  that game. If I was actually a bet, I would
• 1:18:16
  be read that on that game, but because we want to talk about
• 1:18:19
  the ACC teams and some of the bigger matchup.
• 1:18:21
  That's why we're pulling these on here, maybe.
• 1:18:24
  Next year. Brian will have this.
• 1:18:25
  Like, I am doing this on this game, but this is my I'm not
• 1:18:28
  counting it gonna be, I think that game.
• 1:18:31
  Well, the game we're leaving off with, you know, we're not
• 1:18:35
  stacking the deck because no, no.
• 1:18:37
  If I had any fucking saying this, I would not be picking
• 1:18:40
  this game. But you have to Bryan, and guess
• 1:18:43
  what? Since you are leading, you get
• 1:18:45
  to be honors. Maybe this is a coin flip.
• 1:18:49
  So like I mean Duke is weird. Georgia Tech is, we are polar I
• 1:18:57
  don't know what to expect from them.
• 1:19:00
  Yeah so you got a little bit of flavor.
• 1:19:05
  I'm going to take Georgia Tech and hope I don't have to curse
• 1:19:08
  them next week because I think they're there, maybe improve,
• 1:19:13
  just enough, and I think Gunners just not quite get to be able to
• 1:19:16
  get it done against them. So yeah, I'll take I'll take GT
• 1:19:21
  here. Um, I'm actually going to go
• 1:19:23
  with you right there. Georgia Tech did not have a good
• 1:19:28
  game last week. I can remember, right?
• 1:19:32
  Yeah, they it's Evan flow. It's happened there having flow.
• 1:19:35
  So this is there good week, I think I'm right on.
• 1:19:38
  I gotta check that out. My brains.
• 1:19:41
  Yeah, they had the bad because they got blown out by pit.
• 1:19:43
  Georgia Tech rebounds to win this week Duke.
• 1:19:48
  You know, got blown up by North Carolina.
• 1:19:50
  I think the Jew trajectories there, Georgia, Tech later,
• 1:19:55
  three-and-a-half. Georgia Tech wins by 10 in a,
• 1:19:57
  probably a fun game to watch. All right, Brian will go with
• 1:20:01
  the next one. Here UVA Louisville.
• 1:20:05
  Louisville lane two and a half there at home.
• 1:20:08
  Essentially Louisville's getting the home flavor and I'm gonna go
• 1:20:13
  with Louisville with Louisville, at least parts of this season.
• 1:20:18
  We've seen their offense, click and score.
• 1:20:20
  They're going against UVA who as bad as mine.
• 1:20:25
  He looked Miami still, almost got 230 and almost beat the is
• 1:20:29
  bammy. Miami look ratchet.
• 1:20:31
  Like Mammy hadn't business in that game.
• 1:20:32
  And UVA. Let them potentially have the Us
• 1:20:35
  to win the game. Louisville has looked more up
• 1:20:38
  than down, but I think Louisville will have enough of a
• 1:20:42
  defense to where there's probably going to be about eight
• 1:20:45
  possessions of Peace in this game.
• 1:20:47
  I think Louisville is going to school in six to seven, because
• 1:20:50
  uva's offense, defense is just horrible.
• 1:20:52
  We're UVA is gonna swarm 5, so something like, forty two,
• 1:20:56
  thirty five, forty, nine, thirty, But in that case, give
• 1:21:01
  me Louisville and I'll lay the points to UVA.
• 1:21:05
  I'm going to take that as well. Give me Louisville and it's very
• 1:21:09
  much a similar similar story there.
• 1:21:12
  I think Louisville is settling in and trending in the right
• 1:21:15
  direction, on both sides of the ball, particularly on their
• 1:21:17
  offensive side. And I think they're going to do
• 1:21:20
  enough to score against that awful awful UVA defense that
• 1:21:27
  That offense for UVA is going to have to be damn near perfect in
• 1:21:30
  order to pull out the W. It's very, very true.
• 1:21:34
  Alright, Braun surprising game of to pretty solid teams
• 1:21:39
  Syracuse and Wake Forest Lake Wake, Forest Lane the
• 1:21:42
  six-and-a-half. What say you on this one?
• 1:21:46
  I'm going to go with wake here. I think they're going to be able
• 1:21:49
  to do enough to win that one, by about 10 points.
• 1:21:55
  I think use is a much better. Than previously advertised team,
• 1:21:59
  their running game and defense are respectable, but I just
• 1:22:04
  don't think they have enough in the tank to go for quarters of
• 1:22:07
  waken and keep it that close. I'm with you on that one all the
• 1:22:12
  way I think I think use came back to Earth last week against
• 1:22:15
  FSU and especially the way FSU and looked they got into a fight
• 1:22:20
  with them and loss. I think you can see that
• 1:22:22
  downward spiral continue on especially when the one of their
• 1:22:28
  better receivers goes into the portal and lines up o interest
• 1:22:31
  from Texas A&M after hearing the Jerrod story andand the other
• 1:22:36
  week, I wonder what happened while he was in the portal and
• 1:22:39
  again, When portals going to be good but man, it's going to be
• 1:22:42
  some dirty crap in the portal or the next few years.
• 1:22:46
  All right, Braun. Next one, FSU versus UNC.
• 1:22:51
  I had a double check this number and I'm going to again just to
• 1:22:54
  make sure I'm looking right FSU. Is the underdog.
• 1:23:02
  Not surprising. No, North Carolina is Lane 17
• 1:23:06
  and a half points. I don't FSU has looked like a
• 1:23:11
  dumpster fire. They looked much better last
• 1:23:14
  week. I can't least 17 and a half.
• 1:23:16
  The way Carolina's has been up and down and has placed a, they
• 1:23:20
  have also been very bipolar. They just their their highs have
• 1:23:24
  been higher than Georgia Tech, and their lows, haven't, quite
• 1:23:26
  been as low as Georgia Tech. But Yeah, they've definitely
• 1:23:32
  been kind of up and down, as well, but you pretty much as to
• 1:23:37
  say, in this case, FSU has one of its worst days.
• 1:23:40
  While UNC has one of its best if they're going to cover that 17
• 1:23:44
  and a half. So I'm gonna go f issue here.
• 1:23:47
  Yeah, we're locking again together.
• 1:23:49
  Here we are locking up across the board here so far.
• 1:23:53
  That's okay though. All right, I got a smelly line
• 1:23:56
  for you for Friday night on the west coast.
• 1:23:59
  Stanford coming off the upset of Number three, organ goes to
• 1:24:03
  Arizona State, Arizona, state has looked good and bad at
• 1:24:06
  times. They are ranked currently, they
• 1:24:09
  are laying 12 points to Stanford.
• 1:24:15
  I don't get that. I mean, I would say this should
• 1:24:23
  be like a six and a half. Maybe seven and a half line.
• 1:24:27
  Yeah, not 12. Give me Stanford just because
• 1:24:34
  that's, that's a weird. That just maybe Vegas know
• 1:24:40
  something. I don't know.
• 1:24:43
  Well, I've known they've known before and I'm and and that's
• 1:24:48
  why I'm going to just go against you, because we need to break
• 1:24:50
  the monotony of going on the same thing.
• 1:24:52
  And I'm wondering if it's whole thing of did Stanford, just is
• 1:24:56
  the thought that Stanford play their best game against a really
• 1:24:59
  good team. And now they have another sock,
• 1:25:03
  another very good team. In front of them.
• 1:25:04
  Can they get up again? And, you know, Taking a look,
• 1:25:09
  leave this one, you know, it's at Arizona State the line.
• 1:25:15
  Wow, well, we like these in earlier so we're going to just
• 1:25:18
  stay at the 12 line. Actually, went up a point since
• 1:25:22
  earlier today, when we put these down Brian.
• 1:25:25
  So I'm going to take Arizona State.
• 1:25:30
  Okay, I think hangover and short week on the road, probably going
• 1:25:39
  to be a good environment. They're in Tempe, we already
• 1:25:43
  mentioned this game once Braun and Red River, shoot outside,
• 1:25:49
  the Red River. Robberies the Red River
• 1:25:51
  shootout, at State, Fair of Texas, Texas and Oklahoma
• 1:25:54
  Oklahoma Lane, three and a half, very short line.
• 1:26:00
  And you know the question you have to ask yourself is when is
• 1:26:04
  Oklahoma going to get right? When is it going to click eunos
• 1:26:09
  Rattlers a good quarterback? You know, they have some
• 1:26:12
  talented you know you know playmakers all over the field
• 1:26:17
  when is the offensive line going to get right?
• 1:26:20
  And I think in this case it's going to be in a rivalry game.
• 1:26:23
  I think it's going to be how many times do you see it?
• 1:26:26
  We're a team has been playing other teams, they look mediocre.
• 1:26:31
  They look blah and then all of a sudden the teen you hate pops
• 1:26:36
  across the street and everybody gets focused at week.
• 1:26:39
  So I'm going to take Oklahoma lay the three and a half.
• 1:26:44
  I'll go against you here. Okay.
• 1:26:48
  Now, I'm not saying Texas is back.
• 1:26:50
  We don't say that on this program, if we do it
• 1:26:53
  sarcastically. Yeah.
• 1:26:57
  But I think, Oklahoma just hasn't found.
• 1:27:01
  It has a found the offensive clicked.
• 1:27:04
  They really need and I feel like Texas does a good job of kind of
• 1:27:08
  keeping them a little bit off balance on defense so I think
• 1:27:13
  overall ends up probably going to take taxes out right here but
• 1:27:19
  I think Texas pulls pulls it off here.
• 1:27:21
  All right, so, upset week 12, cannibalizes itself, even more
• 1:27:26
  Brian takes Texas. I'm going to take Oklahoma.
• 1:27:29
  All right, we've got some Virginia Tech ties to the next
• 1:27:32
  game. Brian.
• 1:27:33
  And yes, we do, everyone in the fighting Shane.
• 1:27:35
  Beamers go play Tennessee and potentially Hendon hooker.
• 1:27:41
  I know he got knocked out of the Florida game, but, you know,
• 1:27:48
  it's college football. It seems like these guys come
• 1:27:50
  back quicker than other things. Yep.
• 1:27:53
  Um, and He did play last week against Missouri, so many
• 1:27:58
  played, it had a great game. So I'm by week is completely
• 1:28:02
  thrown up where we are in my Head.
• 1:28:04
  Tennis haha. Yeah, it's like it's messed up
• 1:28:07
  my mind. You know, you didn't come in
• 1:28:10
  what games happened last week? Oh yeah.
• 1:28:12
  Happened two weeks ago. Tennessee's laying
• 1:28:15
  ten-and-a-half and Tennessee for this game is at home.
• 1:28:21
  It's a high noon, kick grind ten and a half ago what you got.
• 1:28:27
  Give me the fighting hookers. Over the fighting, Shane
• 1:28:30
  Beamers. Find hookers over the cocks.
• 1:28:35
  Yeah. Fighting hookers over cocks.
• 1:28:37
  I'm Liquors are take. Hookers are taken down the Cox.
• 1:28:43
  Hey it's a machine on the board here I'm with you.
• 1:28:48
  Tennessee's play significantly better look solid against
• 1:28:53
  Florida for a while there and don't get me wrong.
• 1:28:56
  Shame has started out the gate find three and two you know wins
• 1:29:02
  over Well, Eastern Illinois is East Carolina and Troy and
• 1:29:09
  losses to Georgia and Kentucky, but the Kentucky game was
• 1:29:12
  competitive but I think in this scenario it's going to be every
• 1:29:17
  game where unless they play Perfect, they're likely, they're
• 1:29:23
  not they're going to lose by two touchdowns or more.
• 1:29:26
  So, I'll take Tennessee on this one.
• 1:29:28
  Braun. All right, buddy, the night game
• 1:29:33
  on ABC this week, Battle of traditional Powers, Nebraska and
• 1:29:37
  Michigan Michigan, laying three and a half.
• 1:29:41
  And this is going to be at Nebraska and this is the one I
• 1:29:45
  have mold over more than anything because Nebraska has
• 1:29:48
  looked better since that, absolutely awful showing at the
• 1:29:54
  beginning of the Season against Illinois, the one where
• 1:29:57
  literally you probably thought they were Fire Scott, Frost the
• 1:30:03
  Monday morning. After that happened.
• 1:30:06
  You know. There there are there like a
• 1:30:08
  handful of coaches that were immediately on the hot seat that
• 1:30:12
  have since that's cooled off a little bit.
• 1:30:15
  Yeah. And they're three and three and
• 1:30:16
  you can say, well, that's still terrible record, but the losses
• 1:30:20
  were seven points to Oklahoma. And three points to a very good
• 1:30:25
  Michigan State team. Who's undefeated right now blew
• 1:30:29
  the doors off. Northwestern last week.
• 1:30:32
  But the way Hardball has his guys playing, it reminds me of
• 1:30:37
  2011 and as a Niners fan, that was close to my heart.
• 1:30:43
  So I think hard by goes down to Nebraska.
• 1:30:47
  I think they get a win, by more than three and a half points.
• 1:30:50
  And I think last week against Wisconsin, proved that.
• 1:30:54
  Jimmy would go and continue to score on people and, you know,
• 1:30:59
  because you take a look at that game last week, you know, 3817
• 1:31:04
  at Wisconsin and, you know, they scored 25 points in the second
• 1:31:10
  half. When you know, that's just
• 1:31:13
  something they hadn't done. What about you?
• 1:31:15
  Yeah, I'm taking the Wolverines as well.
• 1:31:20
  I think this is a, this feels like a different mission.
• 1:31:24
  Team of the one we've kind of seen of late.
• 1:31:27
  I think that lack of preseason expectations has done wonders
• 1:31:33
  for their confidence, they look like they're playing very
• 1:31:37
  confidently in that offense. And the defense is playing as
• 1:31:42
  good as they played in the harbor.
• 1:31:43
  Our era there at Michigan. So used to him, I'll take the
• 1:31:48
  Wolverines here. All right.
• 1:31:50
  Got you down here? All right, Braun, lets take a
• 1:31:54
  look next at the Deep South oldest.
• 1:31:56
  Wobbly Auburn and Georgia, Georgia, Lane 14, and a half
• 1:32:02
  points Auburn coming off that kind of the bone X Mirage,
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  whatever he did late in that game to LSU in Georgia, just
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  absolutely stomping a mudhole in Arkansas in the first quarter.
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  Well, you think on this one? This is the one that I've been
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  struggling with because it's one of those where the line is fine.
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  But you just have a huge problem laying more than two touchdowns
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  in this type of game, right? I think I'll go is definitely
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  capable of putting that type of Victory against them up there
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  but if I got to make a pick I think that it's going to be a
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  little bit closer than that. Probably seven to ten point
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  game. So give be Auburn.
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  And I don't feel good about it but I'll that's what I'll go
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  with bronze going Auburn. Even with the question marks
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  around, JT Daniels the way that they're doing everything else in
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  Georgia. I can't go against them right
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  now. It's like Alabama Alabama is
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  laying like 20 against am this week at that was on our board.
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  I would I would lay the points. I'm going to lay the points
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  because I think George is going to win this game by 20 plus I
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  think it's games will be like 4220 4217 in bone X.
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  You're not going to be able to do pull Houdini this week.
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  You try to pull a Houdini this week, you might not get a
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  straight jacket. All right, Braun.
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  The big one, Saturday afternoon. We will get to enjoy this game
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  before the hoax. Yeah, yeah.
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  Very good. Free beers.
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  Penn State Iowa. I'm going to check this line one
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  more time. See if anything's changed.
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  Nope, still it to Iowa, getting the home to at kinnick.
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  We know the stuff with kennick teams, who have been big ranked
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  of went in there before. But Iowa's time is also bigger
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  ink. And you pick the last one first.
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  So I got to pick this one and I'm going to go Iowa.
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  I think Iowa might not have as many athletes at Penn State, but
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  they are essentially doing what they do on both sides of the
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  ball. And right now, I don't think
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  Penn State haven't has enough. They don't have enough athletes
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  to overcome that. Okay.
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  I'm gonna go Penn State here and I don't like it, but, okay.
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  I think I think, I think Penn State is playing as consistent
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  football, as we've seen them play in a while.
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  And I think they see some vulnerabilities in other areas
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  of the conference this year, and they feel like, if they can get
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  past this, hump, they've got a pretty good path to potentially
• 1:35:10
  the Football playoff. So give me Penn State here.
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  Alright John, Braun down for Penn State on that.
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  He will get two points. Anything breaking since we've
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  been doing this for about an hour and a half.
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  Number on Urban Meyer is not groped.
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  Any other coeds in the time that we've been on air that we know
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  of that, we know of that, we know of I'm just looking through
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  here that he deserved a night out.
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  Well the baseball game 1-1, bottom 7th chairs are in
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  Wainwright or both out. So they have finished this off
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  and buddy, let's just do it. Let's wrap it.
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