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"6 Wolves & 5 Sheep on the Planning Commission" (FTTxJT Mon 110226 hr4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Are we awake?
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  Speaker 2: First Thing Today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
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  Speaker 3: We're not sure.
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  Speaker 4: Joe works at a steel mill, works damn near every day.
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  Speaker 5: Leaves for work when the sun comes up, drops.
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  Speaker 6: The kids to school and on the way.
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  Speaker 5: Joe has everything he dreamed of, all the.
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  Speaker 7: Treasures that he needs.
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  Speaker 8: No wonder Joe's always smiling, he only aims.
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  Speaker 9: To please you.
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  Speaker 1: Bless you for letting me be of service to you
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  Speaker 1: this morning. You've heard me say this before when we
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  Speaker 1: talked about term limits. There's a group that I want
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  Speaker 1: term limited, and it isn't the elected officials. It is
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  Speaker 1: the people who circulate around Washington, the permanent D.C. class,
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  Speaker 1: the culture of the operators, the technicians, the folks who
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  Speaker 1: run all these congressional offices. They're the ones who are
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  Speaker 1: on speed dial with the K Street crowd. They write
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  Speaker 1: so much of the legislation. And sure, it could be
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  Speaker 1: a politician's laziness that allows them to. But along with
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  Speaker 1: the non-government organizations and foundations that we give government authority to,
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk to the folks within DataRepublican.com. Many
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  Speaker 1: of you text with me that follow Data Republican on X.
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  Speaker 1: Joshua Lisek is author of the book Unelected, works with
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  Speaker 1: Jenica Pounds at Data Republican, and he's going to join
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  Speaker 1: us in a little while to talk about these folks
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  Speaker 1: inside government. Also, the folks of the Property Rights Institute. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we were talking about democracy. You want to see,
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  Speaker 1: there's a phrase that's come up in the last three
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  Speaker 1: or four years, democratic capitalism. Maybe capitalism would be okay
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  Speaker 1: if it was democratic. Go to a planning commission meeting
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  Speaker 1: in your neighborhood, especially if homestay or a data center
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  Speaker 1: comes up. And you will see what Democracy looks like.
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  Speaker 1: Democratic capitalism looks like. It is literally six wolves and
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  Speaker 1: five sheep voting on what sort of restaurant to allow
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  Speaker 1: on your downtown Main Street shopping area. Well, we have
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  Speaker 1: before us a proposal for souvlaki or falafel. Who votes souvlaki?
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  Speaker 1: That's six votes for souvlaki and five votes for falafel.
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  Speaker 1: I guess... Suvlaki texted, where are they getting the lamb from,
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  Speaker 1: by the way? Where'd everyone go?
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  Speaker 6: Hello?
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  Speaker 2: Hello?
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  Speaker 1: Where'd everyone go? That's democratic capitalism at work, boys and girls.
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  Speaker 2: First Thing Today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
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  Speaker 1: Just don't try to arrest me if I won't sell
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  Speaker 1: you the ball.
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  Speaker 9: Come on in, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: So we were talking about, you know, and if there
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  Speaker 1: is a cornerstone of conservative Western civilization, it is the
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  Speaker 1: idea of property ownership and sovereignty. And most of us
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  Speaker 1: will chuckle about, you know, property taxes and why your
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  Speaker 1: local government can threaten you with taking your property away
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  Speaker 1: if you don't pay them their taxes as, you know,
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  Speaker 1: arbitrarily foisted upon you. And Charlie Colleen is on with
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  Speaker 1: us from the Property Rights Institute. An interesting piece regarding
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  Speaker 1: our favorite whipping boy, data centers. And of course, I
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  Speaker 1: cut a different path when it comes to data centers. Charlie,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for taking some time out with us and
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  Speaker 1: talk about the rights of the property owner when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to data centers. So what is happening?
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  Speaker 18: So the Private Property Rights Institute Build Out America campaign.
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  Speaker 18: And we're focusing on six key states where we believe
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  Speaker 18: they're going to be front and center to the data
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  Speaker 18: center build out in the United States.
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  Speaker 14: That's Texas, Georgia, Virginia, Ohio, Utah, and Nevada.
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  Speaker 1: And Virginia is already here. And I've made the case
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  Speaker 1: to folks for several reasons that I'm not following the
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  Speaker 1: herd in if you will. I'm watching too many politicians
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  Speaker 1: chasing their tail on this. I have 16 different research
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  Speaker 1: papers that show how China is behind the anti-data center campaigns,
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  Speaker 1: and I just, I don't work for them. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not working. But I also want the data centers in
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  Speaker 1: the country that has the Bill of Rights. And we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about it in the Third and Fourth Amendments, You're
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  Speaker 1: obviously taking the Fifth Amendment stand on this, saying, damn it,
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  Speaker 1: it's my land and I can do with it what
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  Speaker 1: I want to. So are these certainly we see the
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  Speaker 1: challenges here in Virginia where people are pushing back on it.
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  Speaker 1: What's happening in these other states?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well.
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  Speaker 18: We were founded with the core mission that if you
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  Speaker 18: own your own land, you should be able to do
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  Speaker 18: whatever you'd like on it, whether that's build, develop, or
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  Speaker 18: conserve it. And you mentioned this disinformation campaign propagated by
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  Speaker 18: the Chinese government. I think it's really important that we're
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  Speaker 18: able to focus on some of the positives that come
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  Speaker 18: out of data centers. So just for example, like Loudoun County,
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  Speaker 18: it's one of the largest concentration of data centers in
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  Speaker 18: the world. And through our research, what we found is
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  Speaker 18: data centers fund roughly 38% of the county's general fund,
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  Speaker 18: and they only take up 4% of the commercial land.
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  Speaker 14: And because of this, like it's a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 18: It's allowed Loudoun County to enjoy basically a decade of
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  Speaker 18: tax cuts. And if data centers weren't around, this would
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  Speaker 18: have resulted in residential property tax rate increase of around 91%.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just, just to make up that revenue of, well, I
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  Speaker 1: hate that phrase, uh, the tax collections for the government. Um,
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  Speaker 1: is there a.
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  Speaker 14: Brass brass tax?
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  Speaker 18: That's around $ 5, 800 on average per homeowner.
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  Speaker 14: Is what that equates to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 14: Just imagine paying.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 18: Without these data centers, if you live in Loudoun County,
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  Speaker 18: you'd be paying 58, uh, 5,800 more per house, uh,
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  Speaker 18: which I don't think anyone would like.
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  Speaker 1: And, and, Obviously, and I know that there's a balancing
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  Speaker 1: act in terms of resource management. My grandfather was a
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  Speaker 1: zoning commissioner in Greenwich, Connecticut in the 50s. And you
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  Speaker 1: don't want an infrastructure overwhelmed. You don't want 10 apartment
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  Speaker 1: buildings on a two-lane road, for example, that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think Pennsylvania does it better than Virginia when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to what you build and what you have to
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  Speaker 1: make sure is available for your infrastructure. But that being said,
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  Speaker 1: I think the data centers here in Virginia have grasped
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  Speaker 1: that they don't want Dominion Energy or Appalachian Power overwhelmed
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  Speaker 1: by them. And I think they have been trying to
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  Speaker 1: address some of those non-property rights concerns. Charles, is that
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  Speaker 1: been the case in all the other places as well?
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  Speaker 18: I think when you're a local community and you're considering
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  Speaker 18: allowing one of these major developments come in, uh, you
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  Speaker 18: obviously need to first and foremost take into account the
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  Speaker 18: property owner, uh, and respecting their right to do what
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  Speaker 18: they want on their own land.
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  Speaker 14: Uh, however, I also think there's other concerns that I realize.
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  Speaker 18: Uh, and you know, if a developer has a good reputation,
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  Speaker 18: a good track record, and is willing to invest heavily
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  Speaker 18: in the infrastructure and the community, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 18: positive benefits that I just feel people are overlooking, or
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  Speaker 18: they're just misinformed about some.
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  Speaker 4: Of these benefits.
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  Speaker 1: One of the arguments I hear, Charles, is that, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be gone in five years, and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to have these big hulking buildings doing nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And you pointed out, this has been going for 15 years,
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  Speaker 1: these data centers, and it's certainly picked up with artificial
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  Speaker 1: intelligence i don't see where these data centers are going
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  Speaker 1: to be empty in five years i mean i'd see
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  Speaker 1: that more likely in a football stadium than i do
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  Speaker 1: at a data center.
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  Speaker 14: Totally and you.
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  Speaker 18: Know realize too on most of these developments it's the
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  Speaker 18: developer and the landowner who shoulder all the risk uh
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  Speaker 18: so i think like Just purely to talking about private
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  Speaker 18: property in the state of Virginia.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, there's roughly 20.
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  Speaker 18: There's there's more than 2400 rules that property owners in
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  Speaker 18: Virginia have to abide by to be able to use
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  Speaker 18: their own property.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, it's like the property.
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, the Private Property Rights Institute, we're coming out with
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  Speaker 18: what we call our Private Property Rights Restriction Index. And
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  Speaker 18: just for context, like Virginia ranks 41 out of 50.
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  Speaker 14: Oh, that's not good. That's not good. Yeah, for having
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  Speaker 14: restricted property. But also think about this too.
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  Speaker 18: I mean, if you're in Virginia– and there's a potential
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  Speaker 18: data center coming into your community, realize too that there's
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  Speaker 18: already a lot of rules in place to make sure
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  Speaker 18: that it's going to be a good operator putting something up,
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  Speaker 18: who's going to run the property, who's going to do
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  Speaker 18: a good job. And so it's not like people are
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  Speaker 18: coming in as the Wild West and just throwing something
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  Speaker 18: up where there's no feasibility study done to it.
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  Speaker 1: Now, one of the Favorite whipping boys, obviously, is the
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  Speaker 1: electric utility and data centers are being blamed for progressive
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  Speaker 1: policies like the Clean Virginia 2030 Act that has had
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  Speaker 1: us already in the last five years closed three power
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  Speaker 1: plants that were generating electricity problem free. But we had
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  Speaker 1: to close them because the law said we had to
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  Speaker 1: close them, which is mania to me. You wrote the law,
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  Speaker 1: cancel the law, but they wouldn't do it. And now
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  Speaker 1: they're using this almost like it's, hey, this is fun,
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  Speaker 1: discovered that if they blame the data centers for our
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  Speaker 1: higher utility, we don't ask the questions like, hold it,
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  Speaker 1: our utility rates were going up anyway. Is that an
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  Speaker 1: important part of this argument as well? Because people who,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on their private property want to sell to
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  Speaker 1: first off, because it kind of makes the case we've
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing this morning?
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  Speaker 4: I'm well. Thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 4: I've been a nonfiction book ghostwriter for more than 15
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  Speaker 4: I've ghostwritten, I've edited, I've co-authored, and I've authored books
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  Speaker 4: on the matter. And it was almost a decade ago now,
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  Speaker 4: first Trump administration within the federal bureaucracy. Tens of thousands
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  Speaker 4: of employees that go back to even the Jimmy Carter administration,
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  Speaker 4: if you can imagine, had still been existent in our
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  Speaker 4: began giving interviews. And he also shared with me that
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  Speaker 4: I think that is, but here's the issue. People will
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  Speaker 1: Well, the issue is.
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  Speaker 4: That is, on the technicality, That is what you might
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  Speaker 4: to see.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I think my listeners are most upset
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  Speaker 4: I think that is a correct way to look at it.
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• 35:40
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• 37:08
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• 37:15
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  Speaker 2: This is Independence from Virginia. Again. First thing today by
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  Speaker 2: Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
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  Speaker 1: Damn, dawg, we're all afraid to speak the truth. And
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  Speaker 1: the more afraid we get, the more we hate the
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  Speaker 1: ones who do. You're ashamed to be American? Okay, that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: Because honestly, we are all ashamed of you, too.
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  Speaker 23: Y'all are so fake.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: Visiting with Joshua Lysak, author of Unelected. So you were
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  Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the referees. So who are we
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be looking to referee this? Joshua, who was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be the one, you know, doing these perp
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  Speaker 1: walks when somebody breaks the law and, you know, is
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  Speaker 1: reigning with seemingly impunity from below the elected representatives of
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  Speaker 1: the people?
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  Speaker 4: Well, what we continue to hear from our side of
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  Speaker 4: the aisle is That the federal government, it moves very slowly.
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  Speaker 4: We would like it to move faster. We have to
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  Speaker 4: follow all the procedures and protocols. But we all remember
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  Speaker 4: what happened during the Biden administration. And what occurred was
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  Speaker 4: the largest manhunt in history in which no expense was
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  Speaker 4: spared to ruin the lives of as many patriotic Americans
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  Speaker 4: as possible. Of course, 2,000 people. experienced the gulag system
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  Speaker 4: which is specifically designed to deprive the j6 defendants of
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  Speaker 4: the right to habeas corpus i don't think people realize
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  Speaker 4: that habeas corpus was suspended For the J6, let's say,
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  Speaker 4: political prosecution victims. And then you had immense lawfare engaged
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  Speaker 4: in where new laws were written, new rules were made,
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  Speaker 4: so on and so forth, in order to get Trump.
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  Speaker 4: And to get his allies, et cetera, et cetera. And
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  Speaker 4: so when we hear our side talk about how, oh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we have to move slow and have to
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  Speaker 4: follow these protocols and we're doing our best. We all
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  Speaker 4: remember what happened during the Biden administration.
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  Speaker 9: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And there's a saying. in our popular culture that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: often men and women will complain, men and women will
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  Speaker 4: complain about, uh, one another and say, Oh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if she, if she wanted to, she would, if he
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  Speaker 4: really wanted to, he, he would. I think we can
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  Speaker 4: say that about our guys. If our guys really wanted to,
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  Speaker 4: they would because the other side always wants to and
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  Speaker 4: they do. And so we have an issue with, where
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  Speaker 4: the left always will do anything to get power and
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  Speaker 4: keep it. And our side is like, well, we have
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: to follow the rules and go slow. And so we,
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  Speaker 4: this is what I say. We're, we're in like a
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  Speaker 4: one-sided civil war, a one-sided cultural revolution. And I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to take it up myself. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing that strikes me is we want to
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  Speaker 1: be for the rule of law. And, and I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe it's my industry, Joshua Lysak on with us. Let's,
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  Speaker 1: let's put the magnifying glass on the media. Because I
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: sit here day in and day out saying, how hard
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: is it to make these cases? I am a nitwit
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: by comparison to some of the folks with multi-graduate degrees
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  Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. And yet they seem
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: incapable of making these cases clearly for the public. And
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: so these politicians say, oh, well, I can't. And they're
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: all afraid of being made look bad by the press.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a complicity in the American media? that goes
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: along with these authoritarians in, in the state that, that
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  Speaker 1: creates this nexus?
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  Speaker 4: Well, certainly if there's ideological alignment already, then you don't
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  Speaker 4: need conspiracy. You don't need secret collaboration and backroom deals.
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  Speaker 4: You just need alignment. And if you all possess an
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  Speaker 4: identical worldview, something like orange man, bad, then you need
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  Speaker 4: no coordination whatsoever to effectively move in lockstep in order
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  Speaker 4: to kill stories that make Orange Man look good or
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: kill stories that– or censor some media that makes Orange
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  Speaker 4: Man enemies look bad, you see. And so that's why
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  Speaker 4: it looks like there's a vast conspiracy when really it's
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  Speaker 4: merely ideological alignment for people who see themselves as elites–
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  Speaker 4: as better than Trump's base of working class conservative Christian Americans.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think, yes. And then of course, I
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  Speaker 4: think that word is helpful because even though that was
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: used by candidate Clinton years ago, that is still how
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  Speaker 4: the vast majority of powerful people in the federal government,
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  Speaker 4: the staffers of Congress, certainly the democratic party and every
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: institution from academia and education to media news, entertainment, and
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  Speaker 4: even big tech. That's how they view the vast majority
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  Speaker 4: of Americans.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't invent the word.
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  Speaker 4: As backwards people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she, I think, was repeating what other people had
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  Speaker 1: told her. Joshua Lysak, where do people get the book?
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  Speaker 1: Should they go to just Amazon? I can't imagine Amazon
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: wants to sell this book, but unelected, where do they
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  Speaker 1: get it?
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  Speaker 4: Fortunately, there's one thing that every big tech company values
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: more than politics, and that's profits. Unelected is, of course,
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: a New York Times bestseller, so you can get it
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  Speaker 4: in select bookstores nationwide. You can also get it from Amazon,
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  Speaker 4: but also booksamillion.com, bookshop.org, barnesandnoble.com, etc. And then again, some
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  Speaker 4: stores near you, it's going to be it.
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  Speaker 1: And it gives me heart to think that it's a
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  Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller. I bet that really rankled them
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  Speaker 1: to publish that particular fact, Josh. Thank you for everything
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  Speaker 1: you do, and thank you for taking us on this
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  Speaker 1: tour through the book, and I hope more people pick
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  Speaker 1: it up. for Christmas gift-giving. Bless you, sir, and have
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  Speaker 1: a great morning.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 434-882-4217 in the time we have remaining. You know,
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  Speaker 1: but that's the... See, this is part and parcel of
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  Speaker 1: what I've said all along, is we've asked the government
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  Speaker 1: to do things the Constitution gives it no authority to do.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about, is this bureaucracy that
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  Speaker 1: exists to administer a government that is doing things it's
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  Speaker 1: not supposed to be doing. What you're seeing is a
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  Speaker 1: government doing things that some of us claim they want
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  Speaker 1: the government doing. I don't know them and you don't
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  Speaker 1: know them, but they're out there. There are people out
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  Speaker 1: there who say, I want the government administering this program
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  Speaker 1: or You know, doing these things so that these people
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  Speaker 1: will feel taken care of, looked after, whatever the platitude
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  Speaker 1: is that the politician wants to claim sovereignty over, I
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  Speaker 1: guess would be the closest thing to the right word
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  Speaker 1: for it. And so you wind up with... obviously a
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  Speaker 1: bureaucracy to operate those programs because somebody needs to be
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: looking after the work product, right? Somebody has to be
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: out there saying, oh, here's who gets what and how.
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  Speaker 1: And those people wind up being the ones that profit
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  Speaker 1: the most from it is that they're the ones who
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  Speaker 1: are trafficking in these profits because you send a dollar
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  Speaker 1: to Washington and only about 10 cents, 15 cents, maybe
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  Speaker 1: 40 cents. Be fair. Come on, Joe, be fair. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: 40 cents gets to the folks who need it the
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  Speaker 1: most after all.
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