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Fictional Women Around the World: Fennec Shand · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.
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  Speaker 2: I'm welcome to Stephan never told any prediction of iHeart Radio,
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  Speaker 2: and welcome to another sub sub sub sub sub.
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  Speaker 1: Segment of fictional women around the world.
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  Speaker 2: Leave. There will be two for me this month, because
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  Speaker 2: that is our May tradition.
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  Speaker 1: This is the May tradition.
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  Speaker 2: It is, and yes, we are talking about a Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars character. Today is May the fourth, as we record it.
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  Speaker 2: I've been having the time of my life. Unfortunately though
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  Speaker 2: I actually, I mean unfortunately, I actually have a job,
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  Speaker 2: so I can't just read fan fiction and buy all
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  Speaker 2: the stuff I don't need that's on sale today as
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  Speaker 2: I my heart's desires.
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  Speaker 1: But just bust Christina's ear drums.
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  Speaker 2: All right, These people are like, are you celebrating? And
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I mean I would, but I got
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  Speaker 2: this job.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be talking about Star Wars on Yes, I love
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  Speaker 1: my job.
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  Speaker 2: Please, but it has been hard. It's been temptation all day,
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  Speaker 2: all day, Yes, all day. I woke up early. I've
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  Speaker 2: already watched one of the movies. Oh wow, oh for tonight, okay,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, because we're going to see Empire Strikes Back
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  Speaker 2: in theaters tonight. I may or May not have already
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  Speaker 2: watched The Fire Strikes back today. I've got a system,
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  Speaker 2: I've got a plan. So today we're talking about Finnic
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  Speaker 2: shand standard disclaimer about canon. This one's actually not as
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  Speaker 2: complicated because she's a newer character. But Star Wars canon
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  Speaker 2: is messy. It's gone through several revisions, it's gone through
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  Speaker 2: several red cons, which I realized. I use that word
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  Speaker 2: a lot, and I don't explain it. It's it's basically
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  Speaker 2: when people go back and change a storyline to make
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  Speaker 2: it make sense, they retroactive change.
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  Speaker 1: And also there will be spoilers for I guess.
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  Speaker 2: The Mandalarian bad Batch and the Book of Boba Fett,
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  Speaker 2: which I mentioned recently. I was going to talk about
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  Speaker 2: a show I didn't like.
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  Speaker 1: This is it.
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  Speaker 2: I really did not like. I really really didn't. I'm
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  Speaker 2: like underplaying how much I didn't like it. And it
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  Speaker 2: is pretty rare for me to dislike something in the
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars universe as much as I disliked it. Because
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  Speaker 2: I have a pretty forgiving limit. I will defend things
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  Speaker 2: I don't even like that much, but I'll be like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: but once you pass it, you passed it, and this
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  Speaker 2: one did me. I was literally like a show somebody
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  Speaker 2: made too specifically piss me off. However, it has nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with Finnick, who I think is one of
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  Speaker 2: the best parts of the show, if not the best
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  Speaker 2: part of the show. And if you liked it, no
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  Speaker 2: judgment at all from me, for real, I just want
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  Speaker 2: to put that up.
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  Speaker 1: I like there was a lot of people just not
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  Speaker 1: liking it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like so love Ooba Fed exactly,
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  Speaker 2: and I feel like that was more.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the issue of one of the big things.
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  Speaker 2: When I tell people that I didn't like it, they
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  Speaker 2: always bring up certain things.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that had nothing to do with it.
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  Speaker 2: They're always like that guy who did the spin, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, people do ridiculous spins in Star Wars
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  Speaker 2: all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care about that.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think because that character, and I've been
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  Speaker 2: pretty open about it, I never really got why people
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  Speaker 2: loved him so much, but I was I was gonna
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  Speaker 2: be open minded for the show, and I was excited
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  Speaker 2: about like the actor, but he was never my character.
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  Speaker 2: But dudes, especially, I'll say, really loved him. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was a costuming thing, but whatever, I think the
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  Speaker 2: toy was really cool. Yeah, as an outsider looking in,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, why he's barely in this?
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  Speaker 1: I'm very confused about him and as a character, yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So I think a lot of people were angry because
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  Speaker 2: they really loved that character and then like he's not
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  Speaker 2: in almost two episodes. I don't know, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: But also I think there's a kind of level of
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  Speaker 2: fan toxicity that is not what I'm talking about when
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  Speaker 2: I say I don't like it, but I think is
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  Speaker 2: what a lot of people were talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Jesse, to be clear, Jesse, to be clear, But
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 2: I loved Finnick in it, and I do love Ming
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  Speaker 2: Nowen and Mark Hamill geeking out over each other.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's very cute. Yeah, I love En so much.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so yeah. Finnick Shand is portrayed by mingnaw
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  Speaker 2: Win and is a human woman master assassin slash mercenary
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  Speaker 2: slash bounty hunter. I love how to specify human. It
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  Speaker 2: sounds so weird. But in the Star Wars universe, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she is primarily a sniper, but in general I went
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  Speaker 2: with her. She was first introduced in season one, episode
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  Speaker 2: five of The Mandalorian in twenty nineteen and would go
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  Speaker 2: on to appear in the second season in the Book
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  Speaker 2: of Boba Fet and in The Bad Batch. Her name
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  Speaker 2: is based on the Finnic fox, which thrives in the desert,
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  Speaker 2: so during the reign of the Galactic Empire, she worked
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  Speaker 2: for some of the most dangerous and powerful crime syndicates.
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  Speaker 2: She worked her way up the ranks and earned a
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  Speaker 2: name for herself as a ruthless and skilled mercenary. Because
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  Speaker 2: of this, she was given a lot of the most
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  Speaker 2: lucrative and difficult bounties. One of her first was hunting
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  Speaker 2: down the Clone Omega from The Bad Batch, who tried
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  Speaker 2: to get her to join the Bad Batch before realizing
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  Speaker 2: who shand was and why she was there. Finnick did
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  Speaker 2: say that was the best offer she'd gotten a long time.
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  Speaker 2: This led her to fight it out with cad Bane,
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  Speaker 2: another bounty hunter who I hate, I despise, and now
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  Speaker 2: I think because the cowboy hat is loosely based on
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  Speaker 2: day Floy.
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  Speaker 1: You really do hate that character, like you yell at
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  Speaker 1: the TV. I hate him. So when he showed up,
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  Speaker 1: when he showed up mad, you were so mad. I
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  Speaker 1: was furious.
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  Speaker 2: It was like one of the last dominoes of like, Okay, this.
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  Speaker 1: Is sad I forgot because every time he popped w
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  Speaker 1: we just get angrier.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't like him. I really don't like him. Again,
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  Speaker 2: apologies to anyone who does. I'm not here to I'm
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  Speaker 2: just saying, oh, my own opinion, and that is it.
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  Speaker 1: I will not bother you about yours. I'm funny.
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  Speaker 2: She Finnick ultimately did not succeed, but it didn't knock
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  Speaker 2: her down, and she worked for other big criminal syndicates
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  Speaker 2: like the Huts. When the empire and therefore most of
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  Speaker 2: her employers fell, she was forced to go on the run.
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  Speaker 2: She had to take less than reputable bounties where she could,
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  Speaker 2: and of course she ended up on tat To Wound
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  Speaker 2: because that's where everyone is up and is now hunted
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  Speaker 2: by bounty hunters, including Din Dejarn aka the Mandalorian, who
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  Speaker 2: had heard of her and hesitated on chasing after her
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  Speaker 2: because he knew how deadly she was, and a new
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  Speaker 2: bee named Toro Kalakan. So basically, this Toro guy was like,
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  Speaker 2: who helped me out? I want to get this phoenix
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  Speaker 2: shand and Din dejarn was like, you were new to
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  Speaker 2: the game if you're going after finish, shand she put
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  Speaker 2: up a really good fight because they did end up
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  Speaker 2: working together Dinn and Toro, but they eventually overpowered her.
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  Speaker 2: Shand attempted to convince Kalakan to turn on Dajarn, but
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  Speaker 2: he shut her and left her to die, citing her
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  Speaker 2: own advice that you can't trust anyone. After being left
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  Speaker 2: for dead, she was rescued by Boba Fett, a process
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  Speaker 2: that involved a lot of cybernetics. Now indebted to Boba Fett,
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  Speaker 2: she joined him as his partner in crime in his
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  Speaker 2: quest to become the Dimo basically the king of Tattooine
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  Speaker 2: or the Mayor of Tattooine, it depends on your politics. Okay, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Together they go to tithe Them in search of FET's armor.
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  Speaker 2: The Mandalorian had come into possession of the armor on Tatooine,
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  Speaker 2: and they make a deal that they would help Mando
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  Speaker 2: get his foundling Grogu back after he'd been captured by
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  Speaker 2: Imperial remnants led by Moth Gideon in return for the armor.
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  Speaker 2: Because if you have not watching, the Mandalorian armour is
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  Speaker 2: very very important. Although oh gosh, people fight about whether
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  Speaker 2: or not Papa Fet is Mandalorian, but it was his
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  Speaker 2: father's armor and it was important to him.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So once session was successful, Bennick and Fet returned to
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  Speaker 2: Tatooine and they take control of Job of the Hut's
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  Speaker 2: former palace by killing Bid Fortuna, who's in return of
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  Speaker 2: the Jedi. Vet tells Finnik that he intends to rule
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  Speaker 2: with respect, to which Fenix says, sometimes fear is a
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  Speaker 2: sure bit and it isn't smooth sailing at all. There
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of folks trying to fill the vacuum
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  Speaker 2: left by Jaba Antike power for themselves. A Finic and
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  Speaker 2: Fet attempt to make alliances, but many of their allies
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  Speaker 2: are killed by a rival group. A Finnic proved herself
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  Speaker 2: time and time again to be a powerful ally in
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  Speaker 2: hand to hand combat, weaponry and strategy, though she was
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  Speaker 2: generally much more suspicious than Fet, Like she's always saying
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  Speaker 2: things like the only person you can trust as yourself
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  Speaker 2: is constantly playing on the fact that you can't trust others,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, that is something that did almost get her
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  Speaker 2: killed that one time. Fet and her sort of balance
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  Speaker 2: each other out in that way. I guess she was
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  Speaker 2: pretty convincing in swaying people to serve their cause to
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  Speaker 2: whe they're through words or resources or exchanges. They gather
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  Speaker 2: their allies and go to war with the Pike Syndicates,
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  Speaker 2: and with the help of pinch hitters like Mando and Grogu,
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  Speaker 2: they succeed.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess Vet is ruler. I don't know that's
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  Speaker 1: what it looked like.
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  Speaker 2: I so I feel like he's only for that one area,
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  Speaker 2: which seems like a lot to just rule at one
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  Speaker 2: part of.
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  Speaker 1: But whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they go on this mission to Blackspire Outpost take
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  Speaker 2: out any stragglers of the syndicate.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, Blackspire Outposts.
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  Speaker 2: Being Disney World essentially where you go and I think
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  Speaker 2: you can see Finix Shand and Boba Fett as character
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  Speaker 2: encounters there. But yes, they go there and they find
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  Speaker 2: more people to join them. Though her debt to Fete
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  Speaker 2: was a long repaid, she decided to stick with him.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to put this note about the now Win
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  Speaker 2: stunt doubles because I found a lot of stuff about
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  Speaker 2: that about that. So she has two There's Laura and
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  Speaker 2: Mary Kim, who does several Star Wars characters, actually not
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  Speaker 2: just Phinick shand and then there's ming Cho and here's
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  Speaker 2: a quote about her, and I had an incredible stunt
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  Speaker 2: double ming Cho. She's a WU shoe master and I've
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  Speaker 2: been with her for over ten years now and she's
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  Speaker 2: been my trainer, my confidant, my ballbuster. I love her
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  Speaker 2: to death and definitely, you know, she's my incredible mentor
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  Speaker 2: my sense So I just love that. And then this
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  Speaker 2: is a snippet from an interview from like a preview
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  Speaker 2: of an interview that she did for Star Wars dot Com.
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  Speaker 2: I think and that the snippet said about mcnowen. She
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  Speaker 2: talks about seeing Luke Skywalker on the big screen and
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  Speaker 2: identifying with him, her and Dave Filoni being from the
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  Speaker 2: same town and going to the same high school, which
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And I found a really interesting article about the trope,
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  Speaker 2: about the trope of a man literally fixing a woman,
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  Speaker 2: like molding her out of clay or what have you,
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  Speaker 2: and how Finnick's story subverts that in a lot of
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  Speaker 2: ways because she's not portrayed as a sex doll, which
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  Speaker 2: is usually what they're doing, and she wears combat friendly,
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  Speaker 2: useful attire. She isn't romantically involved with Fet, I'll put
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  Speaker 2: yet in here, but that didn't seem like it was gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Happen, and that'd be weird. No, it would be, but
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  Speaker 1: you never know.
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  Speaker 2: And Fet saved her because he respected her skills and
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  Speaker 2: wanted her help, so kind of it was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: It was an interesting article about that.
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  Speaker 2: And then I will say with this character, and with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the newer women characters especially that have
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  Speaker 2: been introduced, it was a lot written about the importance
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  Speaker 2: of costuming in terms of you know, this is actually
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  Speaker 2: like a useful an outfit you would wear if you
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  Speaker 2: were a bounty hunter as opposed to like the sexy
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  Speaker 2: whatever not useful thing. Yes, yeah, so I think that
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  Speaker 2: that is really interesting and people love this costume. There
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of breakdowns about the costume. So yes,
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  Speaker 2: very cool, very cool, and I'm sure Finnik will be around.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens, what happens next, what she gets
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  Speaker 2: into next. But for now, that is the end of
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  Speaker 2: this fictional.
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