Latest / Financial Survival Network / Homeless to Millionaire - Grace Vandecruze #6096
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- 0:00So how it works is we all have a history, a financial history,
- 0:06a family financial history, and a personal financial history. And so there's a
- 0:11roadmap of walking through what's your first money memory? And I had a very
- 0:18poignant first money memory that really, as a seven year old child, left
- 0:24me in fear. You are listening to Carrie Let's's Financial Survival Network, where
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- 0:48now more than ever. And welcome. You are listening to and watching the
- 0:57Financial Survival Network. I'm your host. Carry Let's say we're in mid June
- 1:00here, already hard to believe. Things are crazy out there. Economic ills
- 1:06are mounting for sure around the globe. And I thought I would bring you
- 1:11somebody who specializes in overcoming adversity. Her name is Grace Vandakruz. Grace,
- 1:19for thirty years, you've dedicated yourself to helping individuals, clients, corporations to
- 1:26overcome adverse adversity. And hey, we need your advice now more than ever,
- 1:34so tell me first, how do you define adversity? I think that's
- 1:40the most important thing, because one man's adversity is another man or woman's challenges
- 1:45in life. So true. So look, in addition to being an investment
- 1:52banker working on Wall Street for thirty years, also CPA, also masters at
- 1:57the Wharton Business School and so forth, one of the things I do is
- 2:02climb mountains. And I've climbed twenty five mountain peaks and over three continents.
- 2:08And one of the things I learned with climbing mountains it's like life, and
- 2:14it doesn't matter where you are in life, whether you're sitting in your office
- 2:19or standing on the foot of Mount Everest. We are climbing mountains. And
- 2:23what an adversity is It is an attack or a series of attacks, or
- 2:30an insurmountable a goal that we have that is exceedingly difficult to overcome. Sometimes
- 2:42it seems that the strength required to get to the other side is beyond us,
- 2:49and we're just sitting there saying, how are we going to deal with
- 2:53this? And so that's the fine an adversity, all right? So those
- 2:59inversive comes strictly from without or is it also from within? Your reaction.
- 3:06Is it your reaction or is it external circumstances or both. I think it's
- 3:10both. I think adversity comes from without, but a lot of it is
- 3:16based on how we act, how we react to the adversity, based on
- 3:22our own inner strength, tenacity, resilience, and our desire to just move
- 3:29beyond it. So someone wants told me or I read or whatever. You
- 3:37know, you're never a failure unless you believe you're a failure. Yeah,
- 3:40you know, it's interesting because in mountain climbing, the word failure is never
- 3:45used. You know, if there's an accident, if someone dies, it's
- 3:51always let's go back to base camp, let's regroup, let's use the experience
- 3:58as a learning exercise for us and retool and repivot in par as how we
- 4:04go forward. And so that's you know, that's the way I view life,
- 4:12that every failure, or what people call failure, it comes with a
- 4:17gift, and in that gift is a learning opportunity. And your ability to
- 4:24move on and my ability to move on is based on what we've learned from
- 4:28that last gift, which was wrapped in sack paper. In terms of an
- 4:34adversity, just to give me with my life and perspective. My major adversity
- 4:42came when I was in college and I went home and the home that my
- 4:47family. I'm second oldest of seven, so the home that my family shared
- 4:53with me on a beautiful summer's day. As I turned the corner to the
- 5:00home, I saw a lot of flames. As I got closer, I
- 5:04realized it was our home being engulfed in flames. And as a family of
- 5:11seven in a home that worked hard to get and we were renting at the
- 5:16time, it was difficult to see how can we staying together as a family.
- 5:25And everyone that came to give this advice, look, your family of
- 5:28seven, why did you split into your family of nine? Actually seven kids
- 5:32little to two or threes, until you can get yourself together and then come
- 5:40back as a family. And my dad, I have to say, my
- 5:45late dad, amidst in those ashes, his result of us being together as
- 5:50a family was never more stronger. He always reminded us that the saddest day
- 5:57of his life was when he was eight and he was orphaned and he was
- 6:00separated from his two brothers, and he said, there is absolutely no way
- 6:05we're separating, and the only place we can go as a family and be
- 6:11together. Is a New York City homeless shelter. So data began with me
- 6:16heading off to school, ended with me walking into the shelter with a thirteen
- 6:23gallon trash bag which contained all of the memories that I estalviashed from the flames.
- 6:31And it wasn't lunch. There was a lot of room in that bag
- 6:34walking into a shelter and that was our home. It was our home for
- 6:41eight months. But what's interesting about me in my life is that my grandmother
- 6:47was a very oppositive positive force within me, and she always told me to
- 6:54believe beyond your limits, meaning never planned your life based in your circumstances.
- 7:00That your gives, your goals and your talents exceed the capacity for you to
- 7:11hold them in your current circumstances, that you have to really keep pressing forward.
- 7:16So while I was in that shelter, that shelter was never within me,
- 7:21and it has taught me resilience, determination and courage in moving forward.
- 7:29Wow, that is an amazing story. Off and say, being a podcaster
- 7:32for the past fourteen fifteen years, all we have are are stories. And
- 7:39so now if you hit once you got through that hitting adverse and in your
- 7:44life it's like, hey, I've been through worse than this. I can
- 7:46take it, and I can turn it to my advantage and help it help
- 7:53me achieve my goals. Scott Adams wrote a book called Failing Your Way to
- 7:58Success Right, and so failure like is an integral part of success, isn't
- 8:07it. Yes, it's like bawling forward. You know you fall, but
- 8:11it's not how many times you fall, it's how many times you get up.
- 8:16I just want to get up one more time than I fail in order
- 8:20to be successful, resilient, determined and accomplish my goals. And interesting in
- 8:28climbing the mountains because I've been in situations where I remember, right before COVID
- 8:33in twenty nineteen, I decided to summit the highest speaking Euroute month El Bruce
- 8:39climbing month. El Bruce with a Russian guide and mouth. Elbruce is in
- 8:43Russia, right at the border of the Republic of Georgia, and it's you
- 8:48know, around approximately nineteen thousand feet in elevations. It solid rock of iceism
- 8:56in its almost one of the most insturmountable mountain. Didn't stub mean on And
- 9:01I've been to Everest, and I would say Mount l Bruce rivals it if
- 9:05not more, and we're climbing, and all of a sudden, a beautiful
- 9:11clear day became completely dark with a storm coming in. And one of the
- 9:18things I'll remember about this storm is that the noise was deafening. I mean,
- 9:24the noise was louder than the New York City subway. And that's not
- 9:30wild, that's wild. I mean it was so loud it was dark.
- 9:35I couldn't see in front of me, and of course the snow and the
- 9:39ice is coming down. And I remembered that it's my guide that is in
- 9:45front of me, and he knows the way better than I do. Of
- 9:48course he's an expert. So what I had to do was not focused on
- 9:52the storm and the noise and the snow, was focused on my next step.
- 9:58It's my next step that matters the most. And make your next step
- 10:03the very best step, so heartening. Back to what you said, once
- 10:09you've been through an adversity, it's easy to go to the next Because I
- 10:13had pined Kilimanjaro, and because the guides there would say poly poly, which
- 10:18is step by step, measure your step carefully, make it your best step,
- 10:22and they'd say it like a mantra in the storm, I just zeroed
- 10:28in on my next step, and because I had a guide, he left
- 10:33clues in terms of his bootprints, and I just kept step by step by
- 10:37step. And I think that sometimes that's what life is all about. It's
- 10:43a series of steps we take, even when we'd don't have the strength to
- 10:48take a full step, taking that half step. But the series of steps
- 10:52we take, even in the storm, even in darkness, even in all
- 10:58the uncertainty, they matter the most because those are the steps that will get
- 11:03us during destination. That's a great story and I think we can all learn
- 11:09from it here. So when clients come to you and I think their situation
- 11:16is hopeless, what's the first thing you tell them to do? Interesting?
- 11:20So I have two distinct set of clients. One is I am an advisor.
- 11:26My company advice on merchants and exquisitions in the insurance industry. So many
- 11:31of my clients are coming because they like to grow and the industry is very
- 11:35fragmented. So many companies have timey market shares and they're looking to expand.
- 11:43For me, it's a terrific opportunity because The first thing I say to my
- 11:46clients is, look, I'm not just an advisor in the space. I
- 11:52lived through a series of disasters that if my parents had insurance, if they
- 11:58had a net, then that homeless shelter could have been in a brand new
- 12:03apartment. So not just an advisor of an advocate for financial security and financial
- 12:11wellness and empowerment. And I service my clients with a great deal of pride
- 12:18because I love what I do. I love building their brands and bringing them
- 12:24additional opportunities to expand their network. In addition, I work with a number
- 12:31of communities where individuals are looking for their next step in their financial wellness and
- 12:37in their financial goals. And so what I do is I give them a
- 12:41roadmap. I give them a roadmap of how do you start to do an
- 12:45inventory not just a physical inventory of how many assets you have, but a
- 12:50psychological inventory. What was your first money memory? Think about it, because
- 12:56many of us are first money memory is just tainted by some sort of lack
- 13:03insecurity. We have memories of family members not repaying each other and putting someone
- 13:09else in deep financial distress, or you know, parents being laid off and
- 13:15some financial crisis so I tell my clients, regardless of how wealthy you are,
- 13:22many of us are still suffering from some sort of financial PTSD. So
- 13:31yes, because before we work and you know, here's what stocks to buy,
- 13:35or here's the insurance or the other things. The foundation needs to be
- 13:41laid where we can get a wellness mindset regarding our money, regarding our finances.
- 13:50And my book tells the readers how to re cast your money memory,
- 13:56how to a regardless of what happened in the past. Here is my money
- 14:03destiny because wealth is my birthright, success is my birthright, Wellness is my
- 14:09birthright, and the book just gives it a complete road map of how to
- 14:13do that. That's great because I remember my first money memory and when you're
- 14:18talk about PTSD, it kind of haunts me to this day. One minute
- 14:24everything was fine. The next minute found out my father is a business partner
- 14:28who is a relative embezzled. Back in the sixties, this was three hundred
- 14:33and fifty thousand dollars, which is a huge amount of money. That is
- 14:37a fortune today, yeah it's millions, and you know, like we were
- 14:41all freaked out. My mother went to work. It was like wor it's
- 14:45time in my life. But within eighteen months my father had turned the whole
- 14:50thing around and my mother was driving a new Cadillac. But what the amazing
- 14:54man. Yeah, but the damage to my psyche was done and it lingers
- 15:00to this day not to like where then. But no matter how good things
- 15:03are, I often find myself fearful, not often on occasion, fearful of
- 15:11the future of the You know, I am in my sixties. Am I
- 15:16going to outlive my money? Or is it going to outlive me? And
- 15:20you know, it's caused me to make mistakes in my life that I shouldn't
- 15:22have otherwise. And you know, you really resonated with me because I realized
- 15:30that some of the mistakes were to get rid of the pain from when I
- 15:33was that ten year old kid, rather than making sound financial decisions. Oh,
- 15:39that is such a great point. You know, there's a statement that
- 15:43says we spent our whole life trying to shield from our childhood trauma. And
- 15:50you know, if we're not going about that the right way, it detracts
- 15:54completely from planning for the future. And like you said, making the right
- 16:00financial decisions really good. So one of the things I noticed you do is
- 16:06the personal inventory here. How does that work? So how it works is
- 16:11we all have a history, a financial history, a family financial history,
- 16:18and a personal financial history. And so there's a roadmap of walking through what's
- 16:25your first money memory? And I had a very poignant first money memory that
- 16:32really, as a seven year old child, left me in fear and shame
- 16:37over the fact that we were entertaining an uncle my mom had not seen for
- 16:42years, and she was laying out the finest we had in the home,
- 16:48and we had everything laid out for his tea except we did up milk and
- 16:52it. You know, she laid out everything. She said, Grace,
- 16:56go to the kitchen and bring the milk. I was dreading that walk from
- 17:02the living room to the kitchen because I knew we didn't have milk. And
- 17:04as I'm about to enter the kitchen, my mom said to my uncle,
- 17:10she said, Uncle, Leslie, the cow gave us black milk this month.
- 17:17I've never heard that before. And he laughed, he said, oh,
- 17:22you know, the cow does that sometimes. So my mom herself was
- 17:26embarrassed, but she made a joke out of it. It was a unique
- 17:30joke. And you know, at that time, the bear left me,
- 17:34but still I'm serving tea without a critical ingredients, And that was my first
- 17:40money memory of black scarcity, of not having enough and also internalizing that like
- 17:48I'm not worthy, you know, you know, I'm not worthy to even
- 17:52entertain this wonderful guest because we did not have all that we needed, and
- 17:57that gets translated into our lives where we can earn as much and yet not,
- 18:04so that the roadmap in the book help you identify those stories that either
- 18:11consciously or unconsciously shape your money memory. And I know from climbing a mountain
- 18:18that everyone asked me, hey, you know how physically prepared you are,
- 18:22and they focus on the physical, but I have passed lots of mountaineers stronger
- 18:27than me who either turned back or didn't make it. And I know it's
- 18:33ninety percent plus of a mindset more than the footsteps. Your mindset will guide
- 18:41your footsteps. So really shifting that mindset from a lack to abundance, from
- 18:48a feeling of lack of self worth to the fullness of the person you can
- 18:53be within you, because your net worth can never exceed your self worth.
- 19:02And it's working on the inner work where the out of my manifestation of value
- 19:08wealth and abundance can blow. Hey, so your book Homeless to Millionaire,
- 19:14Six Keys to Uplift your financial abundance, right, Yes, and we can
- 19:18get that wherever fine books used to be sold as well as Amazon. That
- 19:22is correct, that I'm really inspired by your journey here, and like going
- 19:33back to what I said earlier, you're never a failure unless you believe that
- 19:37you are. And because you've failed, there's lessons in every failure that lead
- 19:42to a greater success if you're open to it. And you've helped open my
- 19:48eyes to a couple of things that I realize, you know, issues I've
- 19:53dealt with throughout my life, but that I realize having fully resolved. So
- 19:57I'm getting the book and I'm going to have you back on after I read
- 20:02it. And he is there a website where you're at? Or do I
- 20:06just give your LinkedIn it? There is a link. Raceglobalcapital dot com is
- 20:11my website and real masterclasses based on the chapters on our book. And that's
- 20:18my National Abundance with Grace dot com. Okay, excellent, Well links in
- 20:23the show notes, this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com and if you
- 20:30got a question for Grace or myself. Please shoot me an email at Klatcarrie
- 20:36LUTs dot com. When you're at the site, please sign up for your
- 20:38free newsletter. Hey, Grace. One thing I wanted to run by you
- 20:41like I started helping entrepreneurs with failing businesses because when I thought back to that
- 20:49time in my life where literally, you know, it was synchriswim for my
- 20:55family. You know, basically within eighteen months my father had turned it around.
- 21:00Later on in my life, I faced a similar challenge and within one
- 21:07hundred and eighty days I turned my company around. We were making more money
- 21:11than ever. Just because you face your demons, you don't run from them.
- 21:15That's the important thing. So thank you from a personal thank you from
- 21:22my own demons that we all deal with. And I'm going to get the
- 21:27book. We'll have you back on then and have a nice conversation about it.
- 21:32Thank you so much, Carrie, all the best, Thanks for listening
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