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(JR Nyquist Interview) LEAKED: China’s Plan to Attack USA by November & Reason for Shanghai Lockdown · Man in America Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. So leaked audio from a meeting of China's War Generals reveals detailed plans for potential land invasion of The United States sometime by the end of the year. So what indicators do we see that the CCP is preparing for war? Are war machines in a wartime economy already being prepped for a last ditch effort before they crumble? This is going to be a very important interview with communism expert, Jeff Nyquist that you will not want to miss.
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• 2:22
  Alright, folks. So we're gonna jump right into today's interview. There is some incredible information coming out about potential plans that the Chinese Communist Party has for Taiwan, and it looks like there's a good chance of plans towards an attack on The United States. And on my show today, I'll be joined by an absolute expert and author on everything as it relates to communism, especially Russia and the CCP. So folks, let's go ahead and welcome Jeff Nyquist.
• 2:52
  Jeff, thank you so much for joining us today.
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, Seth.
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: And this is I I think this is our fourth interview, our fourth discussion about what we're, you know, we were before had referred to as China's endgame, which they're now referring to as the final war as things are heating up. So this leaked audio was had come out recently. It was Jennifer Tsong who had broke this information, and I know that you've studied it in-depth to validate it. So can you just tell us what is this? What is it that has what information has come out of the CCP, and what's it telling us about what they're potentially planning?
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: Well, actually, Jennifer was the first person to beat everybody to translating the recording from from the Chinese dialect, that was spoken at this Guangdong standing party committee meeting that happened apparently on May 14. It was actually the Luda Group that their network of contacts in China that got it out. And I had a chance to speak to people involved in that. Doctor. Lee Meng Yan was the person I spoke to.
• 4:04
  They have more information than is on the tape, and I should sort of frame this by something everyone can look up. It's the May 19 Wall Street Journal article. The headline is China insists party elites shed overseas assets, eyeing western assets. That is about how China is preparing to seize Western assets in China, and they want to pull their assets back from overseas so they don't get seized. This is a prewar move.
• 4:38
  It's a very unambiguous prewar move. Just like their stockpiling of food and fuel and war materials, just like their other preparations, for example, this recorded meeting where they talk about a mobilization order that was given by the central committee of the Communist Party of China to mobilize for war. The they call it the transition from normal to war. So what we are talking about is China is going to war. It's not if or whatever they're going to war.
• 5:14
  And from analyzing the transcript, it's gonna start anytime from now this meeting was May 14. From ninety days from the fourteenth to before, I'm told, before November 1. That's the window that I'm told. I mean, this can change, I assume. Countries getting ready for war, they they have things that go wrong.
• 5:37
  But this is what we get from the intelligence we're receiving.
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: So in this transcript, which I've read the majority of, it's quite a long transcript, that was the one thing that I saw consistently mentioned in there was just a transition into a wartime economy, wartime production, you know, and also even internally, both internally and then externally, you know, kind of around the world, propaganda surrounding this wartime effort to make sure that all the Chinese people are on board with it, they're they're pridefully fighting for the motherland. So so what is am I correct in understanding that what you're seeing here is the very concrete actions of China really gearing up to, like, take actually very real actions of a of a war, a kinetic war in the in the world today.
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: Two years ago last March, we started seeing Chinese military publications saying that war is coming. We saw it in the Eastern Theater. Their official publications said this is not gonna be a drill. We are going to war. You had, Chinese nationals on Twitter, on other social media saying, yeah.
• 6:51
  We're being told that China's going to war. I had a Hong Kong businessman. I'm on the committee for the present danger of China. He's told the committee he had he had extensive contacts in Beijing that his contacts were telling him, and this was a year ago this month, that China was preparing for a war within months, that they were actively getting ready. And now, you know, from all kinds of sources, I had sources from Southeast Asia, from from the countries of Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, that those countries were being told that both China and Russia were getting ready for war against The United States, and they were beginning the actions of process.
• 7:28
  Now we're seeing you can't organize for a war on this scale without it basically becoming widely known because we're talking about look. They're talking about mobilizing in just one province of China, almost a thousand ships. Right? They're talking about, retrofitting sixty four ten thousand ton RoRo ships that can carry more vehicles than were used by Hitler to invade Russia. K?
• 7:57
  We're just talking about the logistical preps that they were discussing there. So forty five days to, retrofit the RoRo ships, and the guy was saying responsible was saying, I can't do it in forty five days. I can almost do it. Right? And then you had you had, in addition, you had, 588 railcars.
• 8:20
  And if you did a calculation, it would take you about maybe forty five, fifty days to move all the vehicles that you could put on those railroad ships by train to the ports in Guangdong. That's just Guangdong. That's not even the theater that's normally assigned to invade Taiwan. The Eastern Theater Command is to invade Taiwan. What the heck are they doing?
• 8:42
  And then there's the coordination with Russia, which we can talk about.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And and that's an interesting point. Really wanna get your thoughts on that because the transcript is talking very specifically about Taiwan. But do you believe that they anticipate that if they attack Taiwan, that Biden is gonna retaliate in some form and that they will then have to mobilize a fleet to come over to America? And what how do you think that would play out?
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: Well, there's towards the end, the latter part of the transcript is really interesting because it's about defending the targets in Guangdong. Right? And then how they're gonna deploy. This was the one argument the officials had. They had an argument that was so nasty that the governor they asked the governor to mediate, and he absolutely refused.
• 9:30
  He put it on the military district commander. He said, you decide, commander. I don't want any part of this. They were arguing about how to deploy the people's armed police. Or were they going to, put the police to defend against riots and social unrest that would be triggered, the suggestion was, by military strikes on the province, creating social disorder.
• 9:55
  Or were they going to defend against those military strikes, implying that there would be maybe sabotage agents coming in maybe from the coast. Lurking spies was the translation in Jennifer Zhang's translation. And this argument broke out. No, we have to defend the four nuclear power plants and the command center. We have to have the people's arm.
• 10:20
  And then others saying, no. We have to defend against the an uprising in the mega cities. And that was an interesting element. And the commissar, the political commissar Wang Shujin chimed in. And he said, well, we can help by using propaganda and psychological warfare.
• 10:40
  We need to explain to the Chinese people that it's America's fault because America is counterattacking us on these targets and causing the problems. And this was the most alarming, maybe the most alarming sentence in the whole meeting because he used the word counter attack. That's in more than one translation. And one lady who listened to it who has defense background said this implies that they're gonna use d f 40 ones, their ICBMs on The US, and that they're expecting a counterstrike. This is the way some analysts read it.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: And so how would they if they're gonna is it DF 41, is that what it's called, the type of missile?
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's Dongfeng 41. It's the most recent, most modern Chinese ICBM. It was deployed starting in 2019.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: So how would they get those close enough to The United States?
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: I know that there's been discussion ICBMs. I see.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: So they're anywhere in United
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: States from China. Yeah.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: I see.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: They can hit anywhere. They have multiple warheads can be put in each of them. So each one can hit more than one target. We don't really I don't think we know the exact number of of those that they've had. They were rapidly building missile silos.
• 11:58
  This was detected many months ago. How many missiles are in those silos now? This is very alarming. Right? Because it sounds like they're anticipating a nuclear war.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: And do you think so something that I'd also seen in this discussion is that part of the reason for the Shanghai lockdowns was so they could pause a lot of the international shipping. And you see this being discussed a lot in the transcript, the conversion of regular cargo ships basically into war machines. I know that I'll pull up a graphic here really quickly, but there and the previously was a lot of information had come out about China's their container ship missiles. And basically how China could could retrofit a container ship, park it off the coast of America, and all of a sudden, open up these missiles. Now here's a different image.
• 12:53
  This is from China. Right? Where then one day, these they open up and they start firing on the mainland. Do you see that?
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: The Russians developed this technology. It's been dubbed Club K. The idea is you can put cruise missile systems in these containers, And they're hidden inside, and they can open up. And suddenly, a merchant ship can become a missile platform for launching cruise missiles. The cruise missiles, of course, could have nuclear warheads or conventional.
• 13:23
  And, monocruise missiles are pretty accurate. And they could do a Pearl Harbor style attack on San Diego Bay, on, you know, Bremerton, on Pearl Harbor, on various military facilities that support our fleet.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: And so you mentioned the the most alarming part of this transcript for you was the counter attacking from America. And so and that was also one thing I pulled away from that was more so it just seemed like they're preparing for something much greater than just an an interaction with Taiwan. Like, it was almost like they're preparing for World War three.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: Yes. You're exactly right. It is well, look. We're talking about one province, and you've got more ships being mobilized and more assets than the than we did for the invasion of Normandy, which is the biggest invasion. Now, obviously, I I have to make this statement.
• 14:17
  Look. Taiwan has a 70,000 standing army. They have 1,500,000 reserves on an island. This is a much bigger Taiwan has actually military capacity actually as great as Ukraine. Only in an island that is mostly mountain and rough terrain where the flat areas around the coast, particularly on the west side of the island, are very urbanized.
• 14:51
  So the flat areas where you would use armor tanks are very urban. Of course, tanks aren't really suitable to use against cities. It's infantry that you want to use, infantry and artillery, as we see in the Ukraine war. And so knowing operational art of war, the number of vehicles just in Guangdong province there preparing to load by retrofitting the RORO ships is more than they could practically use on Taiwan Right? Because of the terrain, because of the urbanization of Taiwan, you would be using mostly infantry and artillery in that battle.
• 15:29
  And that's not what we're we're seeing. You know, this is enough for, I don't know, eighteen, twenty motorized mechanized, Chinese call mechanized divisions to move the vehicles. Well, where the heck are they going to I mean, First of all, if you're invading Taiwan, that's a short distance away from. You don't need 64 and you don't need that many. You could use 20 RoRo ships with repeat trips, right?
• 15:57
  Because they can go back and forth. Besides the port, you got to get a port to offload a railroad ship. You can't offload it on a beach. Even if you have Mulberry's, we did that at Normandy to offload, the offload capacity isn't going to be for 64 ships. It's impossible.
• 16:13
  So it's way too for Taiwan. Mean, there's way too many ships for Taiwan. This is very obvious. And then there's another consideration that everybody should consider. This would be on the level of invading Operation Olympic, the invasion of Japan.
• 16:30
  And you know the invasion of Japan, horrific. Some people said we'd lose a million men. This would be way above Normandy. This was the biggest amphibious invasion ever contemplated by The US. This kind of invasion by China would be on that scale, but the type of ships they're preparing aren't the type of ships you would use in that kind of invasion.
• 16:55
  Very, very intriguing and alarming just from analyzing. And that's just one province in one military theater command, which isn't even the one they would invade Taiwan from. So
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I know that you've talked a lot in the past about the coordination between Russia and China, and the timing of what's happening in Ukraine is almost you couldn't plan a better time because as I understand it, a lot of our resources, The United States resources are assigned and over in Ukraine leaving us very vulnerable, and even the ability that we would have to say, manufacture more of what we would need to combat this. We you know, I I was listening to an interview recently with you and Mike Adams where you said it we're a couple years out of the ability to produce what we would need. So has the do you think that the what's happening with Ukraine was part of a plan between China and Russia to lure The US's resources to that region, leaving our country more vulnerable?
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: It does appear to be that the Russians have drawn our attention to Eastern Europe to help the Chinese in what they're preparing for. That is an obvious conclusion that any strategist would be likely to make. What I would say is that when you look at America moving 110,000 troops to Eastern Europe, sending more Javelins, it would take us two years to double our production of these anti tank weapons. And we've used up four years supply by sending them to Ukraine. This is alarming, especially when you look at the number of vehicles the Chinese are preparing to put on the water tanks, APCs, self propelled artillery.
• 18:53
  And that's just from one province, as I said. There's several coastal provinces that have, by the way, more military resources than that one does. So yeah, it does look that way. And I would add, I asked the people who smuggled this recording, fifty six minute recording of the generals and officials meeting, I asked them, what are they hearing through their sources in the Chinese military about Russia and about the Ukraine operation. And the one thing they told me was that, well, the generals and the People's Liberation Army are saying that the Russians have not used their best troops in Ukraine, that Russia's best troops are hiding in the Far East.
• 19:48
  They're hiding in Siberia. And I said, okay. And of course, you got to remember that on February 4, Putin went to Beijing at the beginning of the Olympics and met. They made a joint statement saying that China and Russia is the most powerful combination of great powers, more powerful than anything during the Cold War. They made this kind of a statement.
• 20:15
  So it does indeed look like the Russians are going to participate in whatever this is in the Pacific. And what's alarming is if you look back to an operation, an exercise called Vostok eighteen took place in 2018. It was a Russian practice involving Chinese and Mongolian forces to invade Alaska. They massed ships at the Bering Strait. So what are they going to do now?
• 20:50
  What are they preparing?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: It's yeah. The the more evidence stacks up, you can see that it really points towards one thing. You've spoken before about the fifth column. Can you explain that? Because that's also something I'm seeing surrounding a lot of discussion is large weapons caches, and even in this leaked audio talking about activating foreign assets of of people to kind of fight and push for put forth this war.
• 21:22
  So can you explain what the fifth column is and how that relates to United States?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The fifth column is forces that are sympathetic would be sympathetic to an invader that are in the country that's being invaded that would help them. For example, the pro Nazi activists in Norway before the Nazis invaded Norway in 1940. You had the defense minister of Norway was a Nazi sympathizer, Quisling. We get the word Quisling.
• 21:51
  That's his name, Defense Minister Quisling. He helped the Germans get a foothold in Norway. He was actively supporting them. He ended up becoming the ruler of Nazi occupied Norway afterwards. So it's a combination of traitors and sympathizers and infiltrators of the country in advance.
• 22:16
  And we have lots of Chinese all over Canada, United States, Mexico, South America. They control port assets. They've been managing ports in The United States. They control container areas of the port, storage areas. This has been a very dangerous thing for us to do.
• 22:37
  Look, when people talk about Normandy, it's a beach invasion with small craft supported by 150 ships that basically then brought across the English Channel, the rest of the invasion force. When we look at this, Norway wasn't a beach invasion. The invasion was done when Norway was at peace with Germany. They were trading partners. The German trading ships, the merchant ships came into the ports.
• 23:05
  But instead of having merchandise, they had troops and equipment that came out, seized the port, opened the port up for other ships to come in. And by the way, it wasn't a giant fleet that showed up. It was one ship they were trickling in. The reason why, they had to get by the British fleet, which was right off the coast of Norway laying mines. So the Germans conducted an invasion, and the British fleet ruled the seas.
• 23:28
  It was the biggest navy in the world at the time. So the British fleet is along the Norwegian coast laying mines. And here, this German invasion of these merchant ships spaced apart, infiltrated by them. They did sink a few of them. Infiltrated right by, got in the ports, and took all the ports up and down the hole.
• 23:46
  Norway is just a giant coastline. It's a huge coastline. From Narvik to Bergen, of course, they had to force their way up Oslo Fjord. They lost, I think, a pocket battleship fighting their way up. There were gun defenses.
• 24:00
  But other than that, it was just an infiltration. And this is alarming for our friends in Latin America because the Chinese control so many ports. They're building a giant port in Peru. It's alarming for our friends in Australia. Any country that trades with China is gonna have this threat.
• 24:21
  Because if the ships are all set out, you got your stopwatch. You all arrive. All the ships will arrive at a certain time. They'll offload. They'll seize the ports.
• 24:29
  How much of the Pacific Rim could be captured by this giant movement? I've heard military people say this ridiculous thing that China doesn't have the sealift capacity. Are you kidding? The Chinese transport ministry says they have 142,000,000 tons of shipping capacity in China, in two forty Chinese owned shipping companies. Give that, people don't know what that means, 142,000,000 tons.
• 25:02
  Japan, when they attacked Pearl Harbor, had 7,700,000 tons. And with that, they occupied French Indochina. They invaded The Philippines, Borneo, Indonesia, a vast archipelago, New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Wake, Guam, the Aleutian, the two outermost Aleutian Islands. And if they won the Battle of Midway, they would have occupied Hawaii. That's on 7,700,000 tons.
• 25:29
  Alright? We're talking about almost 20 times Wow. The lift capacity. Right?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: So we know that China has been very long term in their approach with this, and part of this process has been infiltration of governments to weaken those governments. Do you think that Biden is aware of what China is doing? Do think that Biden is actually acting on behalf of China? Because if you look at a lot of the actions that he's been carrying out, it's almost as if he's trying to weaken America and make us right for the picking for China.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't even think that if somebody had been in China's pocket paid for, if they knew what was being prepared, they would continue to cooperate with it. Because nobody wants to be hanged or lynched by their own countrymen, which is what would happen if this played out. The I would give him zero chance of physical survival. His own secret servicemen would probably shoot him out of hand if he had if it becomes clear that he had cooperated.
• 26:30
  And then this I don't I don't think that I think he's playing playing the role of useful idiot. We know that from the Hunter Biden laptop, if that's to be taken seriously, it appears they've taken a lot of money, the Biden family, from the Chinese sources. I think the Chinese have been very expert at involving us in business that's very lucrative so that large corporations and politicians who receive money from those companies China's going to withdraw their company if we're too anti Chinese. Hollywood tried to make Red Dawn as a Chinese invasion, And Hollywood couldn't do it because China said, you can't make a movie where you depict China as invading America. That was very sensitive to China.
• 27:14
  They didn't want Red Dawn made with Chinese invaders. Why? And Hollywood self censored itself. They made it ridiculous about an invasion from North Korea. North Korea can't invade The US.
• 27:26
  It's impossible. It's absurd. Right? But Hollywood changed the movie for China. This shows if China has the influence imagine if the original Red Dawn was in the eighties, was the Soviet Union invading Valor Forty Eight, which was the Soviet Union's plan at the time, by the way.
• 27:44
  Made
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: sense. The movie made sense by
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: that But the Russians didn't have the influence in Hollywood to cancel the film. But China had the influence. So you see how dangerous Chinese influence is and how it paves the way for this preparation that, oh, no. They're not going to invade. Don't listen to that conspiracy theorist.
• 28:03
  And they're retrofitting the ships. Right? For what? Where are they going with that much armor? Is it really Taiwan?
• 28:12
  I'm skeptical. Let me read you the Defense Minister of China's statement about invading Taiwan. This was made twenty years ago. It was the Defense Minister of China, Qiao Chen, at the end of a speech about attacking America using biological weapons on America, which some people feel that COVID was a Chinese biological attack. Here's what Qiao Chen says in the speech.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: This was the minister of defense from China? This is around, what, twenty
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: years ago? Qiao Chen, twenty years ago. This is what he said. This is a quote. This puts everything in context for me.
• 28:44
  He says, As long as we resolve The United States problem at one blow, our domestic problems will all be readily solved. Therefore, our military battle preparation appears to aim at Taiwan, but in fact is aimed at The United States. And the preparation is far beyond the scope of attacking aircraft carriers and satellites. Is out of the horse's mouth here. Now, I'll give you two other data points that support this quote.
• 29:12
  I was contacted by a British journalist who was very upset. This is seventeen years ago, eighteen years ago. She said, I need to talk somebody about an experience I had, and I've almost wrecked my career talking about it within the BBC and other British media. But I have to relieve my conscience. I have to tell somebody.
• 29:38
  And I'm told you're somebody that might be able to use the information that you would actually credit it because I'm told to shut up, to say nothing. She was part of a film crew doing a documentary in the South China Sea, and they were allowed to be filming an amphibious exercise by the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy. And they actually, I guess you could say, made the mistake of actually interviewing sailors. They started asking the sailors this question, How do you feel about invading Taiwan? You're practicing for invading Taiwan.
• 30:17
  How do you feel about it? And the sailors would say, We're not practicing to invade Taiwan. We're practicing to invade The United States. And pretty soon it got back to the Chinese officials that this is what they were recording. Chinese officials kicked them out of the fleet, took away their cameras, and she ended up going back to England.
• 30:40
  She started repeating this story to other journalists and to her bosses. And they ended up telling her, Shut up. Do not repeat that story. This is because of the involvement of British commercial companies in China, that it would damage their commercial relationships. That's another data point.
• 30:59
  Now I'll tell you a third data point. Years ago, I worked with Colonel Stanislav Lunev on different projects. He was the highest ranking defector from the GRU, the main intelligence directorate of the Russian General Staff. He spoke fluent Mandarin. He worked in China.
• 31:14
  And he told me about after the fall of the Soviet Union, there was this military conference that he attended. He was one of those people that read plans, knew how to read and be involved in military planning. And it was about a future invasion of North America. And they said, look, Russia's military is shrinking because of the transition from the Soviet Union to the Russian Federation, but we're not, terminating our plans to for war with The United States. We're gonna go ahead with those only with China as our partner.
• 31:49
  We have made certain agreements with China. We are going to invade Alaska and parts of Canada. China's going to invade the Lower 48. We provide the missile firepower. They provide the overwhelming bulk of the manpower, the invading force.
• 32:03
  And that this is obviously a long term preparation because you can't just pop up and do this without really long term coordinated planning between Russia and China. And I asked him seriously, I said, Do you think China and Russia could defeat the United States? And he says, Yes. And I said, Right now? Well, they could do it right now, but it's better to wait.
• 32:26
  They have better chances the longer they prepare. And that was his analysis. And I had many conversations with him about it and how it would work. And it's very frightening when you put these data points together with this recording of this military civil meeting of the Communist Party standing committee in Guangdong because it actually fits together. All the information fits with what I know.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: And the most interesting part that you just talked about is just how they are using Taiwan as a mask. It's all about Taiwan when in fact they're talking about America. So the one thing I wanna really understand your thoughts on is Shanghai. Because that's something I've had a really hard time making sense of of why they're locking down nearly 30,000,000 people in Shanghai. How does that fit into this big the bigger picture?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I think that the total number of people being locked down is over 280,000,000 now, and the number of ports locked down is more than just Shanghai. Why? Because in the transition from normal to war, you're not going to be making stuff for Walmart anymore. If you're going to war with The US, you're not going to be shipping consumer goods. You're not going to be making anything for our supply chain whatsoever.
• 33:49
  So you have to transition your factories. Chinese factories are made with the idea of dual civilian military use. They can be converted to war production. So I understand that when these lockdowns started, they were already converting the factories over to war production. So you were making junk for Walmart.
• 34:08
  Now you're making ammunition or spare parts for tanks tanks or vehicles or trucks or uniforms, whatever. Instead of making clothing, you're making military uniforms. So it seems to me that that's one aspect. Then if you have to get the ports ready for thousands of ships to be prepared to load troops, you can't have those ships loading consumer goods. And you don't want your population to know everything because then all the details leak out through social media.
• 34:44
  They end up you need to cut the Internet off. You need to maybe target American satellites before you do this. It's impossible to make this preparation without it being observed. So it's very important that when we see the preparations, we think it's all for Taiwan. Oh, wow.
• 35:00
  This is an Olympic style operation. Taiwan has 1,500,000 troops. The Chinese have to mass an enormous invasion. So that's what all this is. But look, The United States in World War II thought, We're not going to invade Taiwan.
• 35:16
  And the Japanese forces on Taiwan weren't even as powerful as the ones that we're seeing now that the Chinese have. I mean, the Taiwanese have. So we said, it's too ridiculous. We're not going to sacrifice men invading this because we can just blockade it and bypass it. It'll have to surrender, which it did.
• 35:35
  Surrendered without a fight. Most of the Japanese island strongholds surrendered because we had them surrounded. And they surrendered at the end of the war or after the end of the war. Why would they do that? So talking in terms of practical military operations, We're looking at something much larger involving all the Chinese, all five of the Chinese theater commands, not just one province.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: What about all of the guns in America? I'm sure that they fear. I mean, really, America is the world's largest standing army if you look at the the civilian held, you know, guns and ammunition. So how does that do you think they see that as a significant threat? Could that be also some of the pushes for gun control?
• 36:25
  Do you think maybe there's some strings being pulled there for these politicians in The United States to disarm Americans? Like if you look at California, for instance, which is, you know, would be one of their, you know, say, kind of beachheads to to invade, you know, through, you know, the coast of California, where Newsome and I've heard a lot of rumors of suspicious ties and bribes from China where it makes it very difficult to get the kind of guns that you would actually need to defend yourself against a military invasion.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Obviously, civilian small arms would be very important for defending really terrain with a lot of forest, like they have in Northern California, cities, urban areas. But you do need anti tank weapons, which we've sent so many to Ukraine. Look. How does a guy with a rifle stop an APC or a tank?
• 37:22
  He can't. You can have millions of guys you know what what did general Yamamoto say? Every blade of grass will have a rifle behind it. That's a misunderstanding of how war works. Let me give you a statistic that is kinda helpful.
• 37:40
  World War two. In the first half of World War II, the number one thing that killed soldiers on the Allied side was the German Mauser rifle. The rifle was the number one killer in the first half of the war. It killed the most. Second half of the war, the number one killer was American aircraft.
• 38:03
  They killed more German soldiers than any rifles. So in terms of the kind of war you're waging, you can have a war where artillery is killing more people or armor is killing more people because modern wars combine arms. If you have just infantry, you're vulnerable to artillery and tanks. If you have just tanks, you're vulnerable to infantry if those tanks advance into places where infantry is hiding in buildings or covering terrain. So it is a complicated thing.
• 38:37
  But you've to remember that China could raise 30,000,000 troops. And with the size of its lift capacity, it could send five, ten million troops here. And then you have weapons of mass destruction. You have biological weapons. You have nuclear weapons.
• 38:51
  They can nuke the major cities and bypass them. Look, the streetcars were operating the next morning in Hiroshima. You could nuke the major cities. Wouldn't kill everybody unless they use multiple nukes on singular cities. They might do that in some cases.
• 39:10
  But they could use these kind of terror tactics to force areas of the country just to give up. And then you have the problem with, how are your riflemen with the rifle behind every blade of grass? How are they eating? Where are they getting their food? If transportation, communications, food, if they use an EMP and it knocks out the electricity, how are they able to pump water out of the ground to drink?
• 39:35
  How many people are going to die of dehydration? How many are going to die of starvation? These are questions we don't know the answer to. And look, if 3,000,000 German troops invaded Russia and occupied huge areas of the Soviet Union, major cities, the third largest city in Russia, the two largest cities in Ukraine. How is it that China couldn't do it?
• 40:05
  They don't care about casualties. They're 1,400,000,000 people. Countries are taken over by armies all the time. And the Chinese, above all, are able to sustain the casualties. 1,400,000,000 people.
• 40:26
  If they lost 10,000,000 people, that would be nothing to them.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: They're they're voluntarily killing 10,000,000 of their own citizens just for religious belief or organs or anything. They they will sacrifice people very quickly.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: That's a very good point. You know, I was just rereading the history of Mao's civil war thing. He actually killed more of his own people mobilizing his army in the civil war than the enemy killed. So you have to understand, they are right now one of the things Doctor. Li Meng Yan told me was that they are now combing through part of these lockdowns are combing through the population, and they are eliminating who they consider to be unreliable, which is what Mao did in the two years leading up to the finale of the Chinese Civil War in the 1940s.
• 41:19
  He cleansed his army of 150,000 people that he thought were unreliable. They either were executed or they knew they were going to be executed and they fled. They just deserted and fled. In the scale we're talking about, that's nothing. Look, 1,400,000,000 people, if they murder 100,000,000 of their own people, Mao is I think the Guinness Book of World Records credits him with 60,000,000.
• 41:52
  And some people say it's a lot higher than that, that Mao killed. And these are the followers of Mao. They believe the same things Mao did. In fact, Xi Jinping is a big guy on Mao Zedong thought. And he has three people that he admires, according to Steven Mosher, who wrote a book on this.
• 42:11
  He's a China expert. He said, Xi Jinping admires Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler. He's even had a statue of Hitler made that he keeps in his, I think Mosier said, in his residence. So these are his models, right? Those are three big bad models.
• 42:32
  The three biggest mass murders. Go to the Guinness Book of World Records. The three biggest mass murders in history, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. And and Mao makes Stalin and Hitler look like pikers by comparison. He was the real big killer.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: And that's just a quick side point there is that it's interesting how in Hollywood, every movie about mass killing is always about Hitler. It's never about how many blockbuster movies have been about China and about Mao Zedong?
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Never. Right. And and by the way, Mao Zedong's great buddy, Pol Pot, who used to play pool with Mao in China, but Mao liked to play pool. He killed between a quarter and a third of the population of Cambodia when he took over. Was the Cambodian genocide.
• 43:20
  The killing fields, as they call it. So the communists if people think the communists are bloodthirsty, murderous, power lusting, they're psychopaths. They're criminals of the most unbelievable kind. If you read the more recent Chinese and a Western scholar got together and did a biography of Mao, you literally want to vomit. He is so violent.
• 43:48
  He is so foul. He took control of an army. And all of a sudden, all the commanders in the army started dying. Now, there's other red armies at the time, and nobody was dying in any of them. And all the commanders are dying, and you figure out he's killing them all because he wants to put his own puppets in that army.
• 44:09
  Wants to be sure he controls it. Control was Mao's obsession. It Deng Xiaoping's exception. I'm sorry, it is his obsession too, to control. And when we look at the lockdowns of the port closures, as sources of this, as Doctor.
• 44:32
  Lee Meng Yang has explained to me, it's about control. All of this is about control. And if they can control the population, they can make the transition from normal to war. They can feed the war economy. They can organize the forces.
• 44:45
  They can win the war.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: So just for for just a quick note for anybody that is just joining. So there's there's a lot of people that are joining and watching live. I'm interviewing Jeff Nyquist. This is a critical, critical discussion on China basically preparing for war. So we always do a q and a at the end of the show.
• 45:04
  It's over on Rise TV only. Because this information is so important, we're going to keep the q and a portion still public. However, if you want to ask a question, I'm only going to be fielding questions from over at Rise TV. So if you want to, if you have a specific question for Jeff you want to ask, and you want to be part of that discussion, head on over, there's a link in the description below for a free trial to Rise TV. But we'll be taking questions from Rise TV.
• 45:28
  But as I mentioned, for those of you that are watching on YouTube, Facebook, you know, Rumble especially, we'll keep this public for you to watch this because this is a very important discussion. Now, Jeff, you spoke recently about how some of your contacts on Wall Street were telling you they expected a collapse of China's economy within the next year. So can you touch on that a little bit, but also talk about is that also what's propelling them? Like, they have to transition to a war economy because they're on the verge of a collapse? They have to change something to survive?
• 46:01
  Is this a last ditch effort for them?
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. I, you know, I put it in the context. I think they've been preparing for this for a long time. But last October, a Wall Street Banker who's an expert in economic warfare made the statement before a group meeting that I attended that China's economy was going to collapse by the end of the second quarter in '20 '20 '2. And he thought that they would have to go to war in March or April.
• 46:36
  And of course, he was rather more elated, more happy at the March. I think it was late February after the Russian invasion of Ukraine. He saw that they weren't going to China, was not going to go to war in March or April. So he thought they were just going to hit the wall when it comes to the June. So he thought they were done.
• 47:02
  They were going to unravel. But what we see in this war preparation is if they can successfully transition from a normal economy, they're stopping their trade. They're changing over their industry. They're going over to rationing. They're not going to have the money to pay their workers.
• 47:21
  They're just going to give them ration tickets. And aren't they going to be glad when they're let out of their apartment? Oh my gosh, I'm not under house arrest anymore. I'm not in my apartment. I'm able to go out now and I can actually go to work and I can see my friends.
• 47:35
  They're going be elated. And it's like, Well, who cares if they're not paying me? I'm being fed and now I can move outside my apartment. Is probably the logic how they get people to accept.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So almost as if these lockdowns, which right now, there's I think we're nearing 300,000,000 people that are locked down in China, that as that's part of a psychological operation to prepare the Chinese people for a war economy and a war system. But also, I'm sure it's been really effective at doing what you mentioned earlier at weeding out the dissidents so they can see the people that are on social media trying to talk about the lockdowns, people that are denying you know, not obeying the lockdowns. It's a really good exercise to get people in line for the control of the population that's needed once they move into a war. Is that how you understand it?
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah. It is because they're gonna see who follows the rules and who doesn't, don't Mao made the statement back in the 1940s, Let's just kill everyone who doesn't follow the rules. And it worked for him. You would think it wouldn't to be that sanguinary, to be that bloody.
• 48:47
  You would think it wouldn't work. He won the civil war. It's really creepy, but he did. And yeah, I think you've got that right. Absolutely.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: What's also I I have also been studying, you know, communism in China that part of their whole philosophy and how they've run their their communist system is to really at any given point, keep about 5% of the population under some form of persecution, which really keeps the other 95% in line. Like going back to '99, when they outlawed the practice of Falun Gong, where you had, you know, nearly 100,000,000 practitioners of this overnight became enemies of the state. They're rounding them up, torturing them now, selling their organs. It's just this has been similar to how this has been a hundred year war on the West, They've also been waging this war on their own population to get them in line with what they need to do this.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. These are the techniques pioneered by Mao in the twenties, thirties, and forties, how he ended up getting, becoming the ultimate warlord of China. And and you have to remember there there's foreigners. There's Westerners in China. They're locked down here.
• 50:00
  There's Chinese liberals who sympathize with them. So being able to identify them, separate them out from the population without them being able to organize, they can't form a crowd. They can't get sympathy. They can't reach the media. They're isolated.
• 50:15
  Imagine when you're locked down, you're isolated. You really are helpless. Then they can come for you one at a time. They can, all right, we'll come to this neighborhood. We'll get the bad people out here.
• 50:25
  Oh, look, there's some Brits and Americans and Australians here. We'll put them in a camp or we'll put them in What do you do? You put foreigners when you go to war, you put them in internment camps. Or maybe you just kill them. But internment camps both Britain and The United States put people who are sympathetic to the Axis or, in the case of America, Japanese Americans in internment camps.
• 50:52
  And of course, the Germans famously had their concentration camps. That anyone that disagreed with the regime and certain ethnic minorities like Jews were put in those camps. And, of course, Russia famously had its concentration camp system. So all war powers in World War two did this, basically.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you you can see that lead you can see that happening. You can see the foundation laid for this. So we're gonna now open this up for the q and a portion, because I've seen I've been seeing the questions coming in, and there's some incredible questions. So for those of you that are watching, like I said, we're gonna keep the q and a portion public.
• 51:34
  But if you wanna ask a question, it's only gonna be done through your account over on Rise TV. There's a free trial in the description below. So I'm gonna start with this question, and this came in from Deb's and Michelle, who's asking about the Chinese troops in Canada. And so said that, you know, Canada allows Chinese troops in their country. Do you think that they will try to invade The US through Canada and also up through Mexico, South America, etcetera.
• 52:02
  Basically, is that part of what you see happening?
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess we've seen this film taken from British Columbia of Chinese people in, you know, military utilities or camouflage utilities, hiking, you know, without weapons. And there's some kind of Chinese camp. And, of course, there's a large Chinese population in British Columbia in the Vancouver area. And the question is, are these Chinese citizens you know, the the question is assuming that there's a Chinese army there. Not that anybody knows there's a Chinese army there, but if you have Chinese have infiltrated Vancouver, British Columbia, have they then smuggled in weapons and uniforms?
• 52:48
  And can some number of Chinese suddenly put on those uniforms, get those weapons, and take over the Port Of Vancouver? I think the answer is yes. When you look at the German operation Vessel Rebung that they invaded Norway, this is what they did. They had infiltrators already in Norway. They put on the uniforms and got their machine guns.
• 53:09
  They grabbed airfields and ports. The German came in through the airports and the ports. This is very possible in Western Canada. It's definitely possible. As far as them advancing against The United States going across into British Columbia from British Columbia into Washington State.
• 53:32
  Yeah. But probably not right away because there has to be something done to Seattle. Right? You have to what are you gonna do to Bremerton, Washington? That's kind of in between there.
• 53:46
  That's our big boomer base. You would have to strike that base at the beginning of a war that involved invading North America. And that strike would probably have to be nuclear, which means and it would have to be a ground burst. So you'd have a heavy fallout area. So you probably couldn't even operate troops there at the outset of the war.
• 54:04
  You'd have to wait thirteen to eighteen days before you could go through that area because the fallout dissipates. The intense, short term fallout dissipates. So that would be my only comment. I hope that makes sense.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Something that I'm seeing a lot in the comments in general, when this is not just this interview, the handful of interviews I've done with you, people are saying, oh, you're just fear mongering and this, but this is very real information. You're someone who's been studying communism, especially the Russian and, you know, the CCP, Soviet Union, for a very, very long time. But for people that are that are kind of saying, look, you know, this is fearmongering. I don't want to look at it.
• 54:46
  What would you say to that?
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: No, I don't. You know, obviously, it's unpleasant. Look. I've been studying this unpleasant subject for thirty five years or more. I I hope it's not true, but I'm what I'm relating are facts.
• 55:04
  People, you can read the transcript of the standing party meeting in Guangdong. You can read the Wall Street Journal about them preparing to seize Western assets and to pull their assets out. And all their war preparations, they have 67% of the world's food stockpile in their country. Why are they doing this? They've been stockpiling gold and raw materials of all kinds.
• 55:26
  China has a ten year supply of oil, of what they would need. That's how big their petroleum reserve is. They could go without oil imports for ten years. And you can look that up on the internet. The numbers are there.
• 55:44
  What they produce and what they import. They import something like 7,000,000 barrels a day. You look at what do they have? 25,000,000,000 barrels in their stockpile. You could do the math.
• 55:56
  Turns out to be seven years. Yeah. So unless I made some mistake, so why have they made these preparations? This is not innocent. And look, if you know the history of the communist party, Soviet Union Communist Party of China, their goal is to make the world revolution, rule October, take the whole world over, make it communist.
• 56:24
  And if you think I'm making it up, let me quote the former head of the Communist Party of China, Hu Yintao in 02/2008. He was the general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party. And this is a quote from him. In history, the Western powers used warships and opium to colonize China. Now the opposite has happened.
• 56:44
  We will use our open policy, seize the economic crisis in the West as a historical moment, and use effective measures to turn them into socialist China's economic and cultural colonies. Our colonization of these countries is the historic process of communism's triumph over rotten capitalism. We Chinese communists must shoulder the great historical mission and use socialism to defeat capitalism, eventually liberating the entire humanity with communism. It's pretty clear. Look, there's hundreds of these statements made by Chinese leaders right up to the present.
• 57:20
  And I'm not making it up. So you can have a fantasy of an Easter bunny and a tooth fairy and whatever. I'm sticking with the facts.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I have a good question that has come in from Kate who's asking, do you think that the lockdowns and the ties between the WHO, Tejas Rose, Xi Jinping that crippled the economies and countries around the world were also laying the groundwork for what we're seeing right now.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If you look at the World Health Organization, the WHO, it has been said by people who have studied this organization that it is controlled by China. It is a Chinese puppet. And the the leaders of it have been communists. Communism is not just in China.
• 58:03
  It's a world movement. These crazy people exist in The US. Look at look at Black Lives Matter and Antifa. These are communist organizations. I think that two of the leaders of Black Lives Matter admitted that they were Chinese communist trained.
• 58:18
  You've got them all over Latin America. You've got Cuba as a communist country. Venezuela. Nicaragua was under Daniel Ortega's communist country. Peru now has a communist president.
• 58:31
  Argentina signed all kinds of agreements with China now. They're pushing Brazil even despite Bolsonaro being there. They're pushing Brazil into the arms of Russia and China. Brazil is a brick country. Right?
• 58:41
  They're part of a a block. It's called the Brazil Russia India China Alliance or economic combination, and they've added South Africa to that. So, yeah, I hope that answers your question.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: It certainly does. Here's actually a very good question from Montana Dude. This is something I've been wondering as well. He says, is there any information regarding American countermeasures? Are there any rumblings of American military plans?
• 59:12
  If it's obvious that China can't hide their preparations, is America able to hide their preparations for what's to come?
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Well, you may notice that there has been increased you know, people living near air bases and stuff have noticed increased practicing, increased missions, increased helicopter and air flights. Of course, we are moving things into Eastern Europe, but we've also moved troops into Australia. I don't know how many. So we've also been aware of this problem. The first sign of preparations came after COVID nineteen.
• 59:48
  COVID nineteen outbreaks began in January around Chinese New Year in 2020, '2 years ago. In late March, if you go back in late March, the US government sent its nuclear war staff for running a nuclear war. They sent them to deep bunkers in Colorado in late March of twenty twenty. And then within a few days, the strategic command dispersed all of its aircraft to various bases. And the reason they gave was the threat of storms, weather.
• 1:00:24
  Right? I didn't think so at the time. I thought, Oh, they know. Because this is when the first signs of China getting ready that we started to see. We started to see, for example, in the Eastern Theater, I mentioned before, their military publications were openly stating that war was coming.
• 1:00:46
  And so we had those kind of preparations. And some of my military contacts went cold starting two years ago this month and would not talk to me. So there was something secret going on. There's a fascinating if you General Todd Walters, our NATO commander, he's an Air Force commander. He's brilliant, by the way.
• 1:01:10
  He in his testimony to Congress the last two years and then more recently, he talks about China and Russia being together and how we can put pressure on them and and and actually succeed if if a war is between both of them. So this shows a high level of awareness from one of our top generals. And I think admiral Richards, the head of the strategic command, has made some comments. It seems to me they're aware, even if you don't you know, you listen to Blinken, the secretary of state or the president, they seem to be clueless. I think our military leaders are not.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Which is probably a good thing that we have no idea what they're doing about this.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It might be. What I have heard over the last year or so is there is a kind of there's a certain level of desperation of getting things together because it's like the Chinese and the Russians have been preparing for years. We just became aware within the last two years that something is going on with them, And we're trying to play catch up. And you're trying to play catch up.
• 1:02:12
  They've been preparing for thirty years. We're trying to catch up in two. And then we stupidly moved our industrial base to China. And so they make supply chain things. I mean, we got infiltrated and compromised up to the political level.
• 1:02:28
  And now we're going, uh-oh, we got a problem. How do we dig our way out of it? Now we're pretty ingenious as a country. I think we can do it. We've been coping with it.
• 1:02:39
  And I don't know We have real problems with our political leadership. I don't think we have people you can call leaders. I think you've got useful idiots all over the place, not just our top business people. Yeah. And in both political parties, I'm not going to pick on one or the other.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: I think we've got a lot of that. And in Europe, it's bad too. There is in Europe an awakening regarding Russia. But look at a lot of these people What would the KGB file be on Boris Johnson, the prime minister of England? It's kind of interesting to see him becoming anti Russian when you think of the blackmail they've got to have on him.
• 1:03:19
  And it may just be that we're going to see all that blackmail being poured out in the not too distant future. You've got Germany. Look, the Prime Minister Scholes of Germany, he is flatly pro Russian. Even the Green Party people have complained about him. And the people there, there's great worry.
• 1:03:39
  But I talked to a friend of Putin's, thirty one year friend of Putin's last week. And he gave the Russian point of view on a lot of things. But he's very worried. And he's a guy that he's very worried about where that's going. And Russia could very well make this nuclear and, in coordination with China to to create a new security infrastructure in Europe, to force Europe.
• 1:04:08
  And and by the way, the economic problems with oil you're seeing in Europe, you've got connected to this is we know that in about a month, it's thought that Iran's going to get nuclear weapons. So there's talk that Israel, maybe with American help, is going to do a preemptive strike in Iran. That almost certainly will result in the Persian Gulf being closed down at least for some time. What's that going to do to Europe and Germany that depend on that oil? How are they going to survive that?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: And they're already extremely weakened, not getting oil. Exactly.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: The Russian natural gas. They're actually paying in rubles. They're meeting the Russian demand in rubles. You can't embargo Russia. It's too self sufficient.
• 1:04:55
  It's more self sufficient, especially in raw materials than Europe is. So who is really coming out ahead? Is Europe going to end up breaking down? Is European economy going to collapse if this thing goes on in The Middle East and added on to the war in Ukraine? It seems to me that Moscow and Beijing has thought through this period much better than we have.
• 1:05:17
  Yeah.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Well, that leads to actually a good question from metal avenger who asked, where do you think it would be safe if China attacks? Are there safe places in The US or Europe or anywhere?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a difficult question because, look, you have missiles, nuclear weapons, biological weapons that can reach anywhere. You are obviously safer in a small town or in a rural area than in a major city. In a megalopolis, they're going to have troubles in that, not only with social order, but they are potential targets of biological and nuclear weapons that can cause serious economic dislocations or serious damage to the cities with a lot of loss of life and a lot of people injured. So obviously, to have a cabin in the woods, to have a place where you put some food and water away, somewhere where you can know to get out of the city, I hope that if a war does break out, I hope that we have enough warning that people can shelter themselves and prepare. I I really hope.
• 1:06:27
  I mean, the US government, hope, is watching this, and civil defense measures will be engaged at some point.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: You made a good point earlier when talking about when I was asking about the Second Amendment and the guns in America. You said, well, if people can't have water or feed themselves, and that just really goes upon the importance as you're talking about now, just for folks watching, you look at do you have a water source? If the power goes down, and you're just relying on city water, do you have a well to tap into? Do you have a river nearby that you can get and filter water? Also, you produce food?
• 1:07:00
  You know, can you grow food? If you can't just go to the grocery store because supply chains are completely shut down, which would be a very real possibility. But just it's really important that people just think about these things. Here's actually a good question. You kind of addressed it earlier, but I want to hear more information about this.
• 1:07:16
  This is from JEK who says, how can anyone be absolutely certain that this leaked information isn't propaganda?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: The way you analyze information is you look at the context of the information. So the context is I've given, you know, thirty years of study to what Russia and China are doing. This is consistent with everything they've done. The meeting itself, a number of experts have looked at it. Now I've I've you know, it's been shared.
• 1:07:46
  I've alerted other people I know. Nobody has found anything suspicious or wrong footed about it. This is a very boring meeting, by the way. It's fifty six minutes of old guys talking about two and thirty something administrative tasks under 20 something categories of things to do. The analysis of it is not you know, you gotta be motivated even to read it.
• 1:08:13
  It's so dull. You gotta analyze it. So propaganda, not very effective. Nobody's gonna pay attention to it. Nobody except for experts anyway.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Here's actually another good question. This is from Wonderful who says, do you think that China has the capabilities to shut down iPhones, other electronics that are made there? Do you think they might do that in conjunction with attack on the power grid?
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: That's an interesting question because the components of a lot of iPhones and things like that are made there, whether they have a backdoor into those things, that would maybe be a greater concern that they could monitor our social media and track people and listen to what people are doing if they use those phones in the defense of the country. You know, maybe, you know, people wondered why the Russians didn't take down the social media or the power grid in Ukraine. They have different military doctrines and ways of doing things that are a bit mystifying to us. Maybe the big question is when you read Chinese and Russian military literature, they conceive of a war as nuclear weapons. They don't understand why you wouldn't use them.
• 1:09:28
  They got great blast radius. They're quick. You can put them on missiles. We don't have that thinking. We're appalled by those weapons, and we think it's the end of the world.
• 1:09:38
  And people have a mythology about it. So as far as electronic media, look, EMP strikes, at least local ones are possible. Their satellite attacks on our satellites would probably greatly constrict the use of our phones. So I wouldn't be so sure. I think we're going to end up using landlines back again.
• 1:10:07
  I'm not sure that that kind of media or those kind of phones are going to be working if this thing really gets hot and gets awful. I'm not sure.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: That's that makes sense. I just wanna just tell folks that are, joining and watching that if you wanna follow Jeff's work let me pull up your blog here, Jeff. It's just jrnyquist.blog. So just his name there. It's jrnyquist.blog.
• 1:10:35
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• 1:10:55
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• 1:11:16
  I think that all of the insane events that we've seen happen the past couple of years, I think are leading up to a lot of what you're talking about.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It it does seem the problem with the information is it seems to fit with other information. That's the disturbing thing. And you have to always have an explanation for why things fit together if they fit together really well. And that's what's disturbing to me about it.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: So one other question that I have that's very important is what's happening with the US dollar? Because we're seeing that, you know, China is talking to the the Saudis about, you know, kinda supplanting The US as a petrodollar status, do you think that China is also deliberately waging an economic war to try to collapse the US dollar in our financial system as part of this overall war?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. China, Russia, their allies are definitely trying to destroy the dollar. And, of course, it's been talked about a long time. They wanted to create a bores at one point where they were with Iran where they would make people accept you know, pay for oil in something other than dollars. You know, they talked about a basket of currencies.
• 1:12:34
  Now the Russians have a gold backed ruble that's that has basically prevented their currency from devaluing during this war. It's quite an interesting measure. It's a very bold measure by the Russians. But so far, it's proved to be effective. Whether or not it's going to last, we don't know.
• 1:12:54
  When China and Russia have tried these kind of moves in the past, they've been abortive and they've been failures. This one, it looks like it has promise. Nobody knows. It's an economic warfare. Their economic weapons are they're using fertilizer, food, restricting food going to Africa and The Middle East, for example, from Ukraine, and fuel, petroleum, natural gas products.
• 1:13:22
  And this really has impacted the dollar. You look at what the gas pumps are doing. It is having a real effect on Japan and Europe that has no great Japan has no supplies of petroleum within their country to draw. And they have to import everything. Europe is quite dependent on Middle Eastern oil and Nigerian oil and whatnot.
• 1:13:48
  So well, when you take Venezuela, which is in the Chinese Russian camp, and you take Iran out of the picture, if they start playing this game and saying, Look, we need the oil to be paid for in something other than dollars, Suddenly people don't need the dollar as much overseas. See, we export our inflation. Exporting our inflation has allowed us to do the kind of spending deficit spending that we've done because It's paid
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: for our wars in the past. We've put more money-
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: our And it's like a person in a government in Australia or Japan or Europe will tell you, Yeah, we might complain about it, but we really like it. This is America's tax on us for defending us. So they are okay with it, with us having this exporting our inflation and paying for everything in dollars because we defend them, because they're under our nuclear umbrella. But if we can't defend them, if they realize that we're not you know, when you have the threat from of war in Europe, Middle East, and the Far East at the same time, we can only cope with one word at a time. So it's like, oh, no.
• 1:14:55
  We can't defend them all. They're going, oh, the American promised to defend. Why should we support the dollar? We're going to pay for it in rubles. Right?
• 1:15:03
  This calculation goes on, and then the dollar starts to erode. And we could get very serious inflation here, which we're seeing tick up in The US. And inflation of food prices and fuel price, look, everybody needs food and fuel. It's one thing you can't. You can get away with not going to the clothing store for a year.
• 1:15:21
  Just wear the same old clothes. You can go get away without buying a new car or whatever. You can't get away from buying your food and your fuel.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's no escape. Also, especially as you head right now, we're in the summer months and approaching summer, so it's not a worry. But as we head into the winter for people that are heating their home on natural gas or oil, you know, we might see a lot of in America that can no longer afford to heat their homes even because of the ramifications from this happening.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's why September, October are really the ideal months for starting a world war if you're Russia or China.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Here's a very good question from the Dane who asks, if all you say is real, is there a way out? And, you know, I'll add to that question by asking that if China is in this difficult state where it's almost go to war or see your economy and country collapse, does that mean that even though it feels like there's this grand plan that is calculated and we're very weak, that they are also taking a significant risk, and this may not play out for them very well. And this could actually end lead to the end of the CCP and the fall of China as we know it.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Yes. Very much so. I mean, you look at the stumble that the Russians had in Ukraine. We pretty much know the Russians thought they were gonna get through Ukraine in a matter of days, and they didn't. And it was, doctrine training, very simple things that they they weren't up to date on that nobody really realized the state of the Russian Armed Forces got them stuck there.
• 1:17:03
  China, famously, they have the similar doctrines. The Chinese military was trained by the Russians starting back after the Chinese civil war ended. They have always helped each other out, especially in recent years since they've gotten back together again. There's a lot of unknowns here, but China could certainly misstep. The Chinese sources I have described Xi Jinping as a gambler.
• 1:17:32
  And this would certainly be a tremendous gamble. This one Hong Kong businessman who basically foretold this war plan, he said, look, the Chinese plan was to do this in 02/1935. They wanted an extra thirteen years plan for this. But because of the way Trump damaged their economy with his trade policy, they suffered a kind of damage that they couldn't correct for. And so they were on the skids and their economy has been unraveling.
• 1:18:08
  They've got really horrible banking system. They have more debt than The US. I mean, people talk about how much money they have. People don't realize how much debt there is in China, how much malinvestment there is, and how the Chinese economy is a house of cards. So it may you know, some people think they're just gonna they're not even gonna get to start the war because their economy is gonna flatline, and they're gonna have their people are gonna rise up.
• 1:18:32
  There does seem to be a kind of, desperation about riots and revolt in the megacities. I mean, you're sitting in the powder keg of 1,400,000,000 people. Can you control them if you're going to take their livelihoods away and say, you're just working for food? You know? Will that work?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's also a major risk that they that they have. And then they they address that in the discussion that was leaked as well, talking about how to control using their propaganda to how to control the population, but also then how to deal with the people very swiftly that aren't buying into the war efforts to, you know, to save the motherland from the imperialist Americans, basically. So, yeah, that's also a giant risk, and the population is a powder keg.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: I was kind of astonished that 6,000, peoples aren't police doesn't seem to me enough if those mega cities go. That kind of I thought 6,000 peoples aren't police? That's not enough.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: It'd take more than that for Chicago.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: I would well, maybe not Chicago, but certainly the Pearl River Delta cities, they make Chicago look like a small town when you combine the population there. Don't know. There are these curiosities. And I think they do mention other militia resources, but they don't give the numbers. Those have got to be pretty large.
• 1:19:58
  But then what is their loyalty? You know what happened in the Russian revolution, what's called the February revolution, which actually happened by our calendar in March 1917, is that it was elements of the Russian army that turned against the czar. Turned they were asked to fire on crowds, riding crowds, and they wouldn't shoot them. And they turned their guns back on the government. And when they sent other troops to put down these troops, those troops joined them and joined the people.
• 1:20:30
  They'd send whole armies in then. All right. We're going to and then the armies would flip over. So that's how it happened. The czar had to abdicate.
• 1:20:39
  I think the Chinese, they know this history, the Chinese Communist Party, and they know the danger of this.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: And that's just just an important point just to really reiterate for all the all of you that are watching right now is that though a lot of this is very real and the the China, Russia, these are very powerful nations. China is at a very, very weak place in so many ways. So just always keep that in mind that we're not up against, yes, they're a powerful nation, but they are at a very, very critical time in history. Here's another question. This is a question that came in from Beachbound who says, if we know that if we know this, then our military leaders, Congress, Senate, etcetera, all know.
• 1:21:20
  So are they all in on it, sending our defenses to Ukraine and leaving us as sitting ducks?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: No. I I don't you know, people give other people too much credit. You know, I've I've had I've had colonels tell me that generals aren't that bright. Look. Politicians what do you think the real intelligence of politicians who are doing this all the time?
• 1:21:45
  They're taking polls. Do these people have even their own initiative for thinking their own thoughts? Do you think you get elected to Congress by thinking for yourself? There's the famous Gilbert and Sullivan operetta about the guy who became the first Lord of the Admiralty. And I thought so little.
• 1:22:07
  They sent me to parliament, basically, because he didn't think for himself at all, the lines of the song. I think people don't realize how systems work, social systems. It's like, you really think people get rewarded for brilliance? Try to think of brilliant thought and open your mouth and see if the corporate executives or the government leaders or even the people listening like what you're saying. They don't.
• 1:22:37
  The idea of people, Oh, Nyquist, you're making all kinds of money. You're going to scare people. You're tickling their ear. I know. I can't make a living from saying this.
• 1:22:48
  I've got other sources of income. I'm not doing this for money. I'm doing it because I'm very interested in this, I think there's great danger to the country. And I think we're terribly misinformed, and I don't think our leaders have served us very well. I don't think we have the right leadership.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: I certainly agree with that. So we've got over 5,000 people watching, and we have a lot of questions coming in. I that we had a stop at 03:30. Are you able to go a little bit longer than that, or is it still a hard stop
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: for you? Sure. No. I can go. I don't have another meeting.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, fantastic. Thank you. And thank you again for being here. And just a reminder for all those of you that are watching, if you want to follow Jeff, head on over to jrnyquist.blog. This is where you can contact him.
• 1:23:31
  Know, Jeff's very active in the comments on all the posts. So this is a great place to to kind of peer into Jeff's mind, and you can learn a lot over there. So here's another this is a question from Wings Over Texas. It kinda goes back into the question about our political leaders who asked, do you think this is why Biden has been in favor of opening the southern border to help facilitate an invasion?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Well, it's very interesting that a person whose family has taken so much money from the communist Chinese wants the border open. This is something that people who traditionally were on the left, they supported the Viet Cong during the Vietnam War, which were the side that communist Chinese and the Russians supported. Why they're suddenly they want America of all the countries in the world not to have a border, which means anybody can cross over. Why do they want that? One of the things people don't realize is that spetsnaz commandos, saboteurs that could bring biological, chemical, toxic weapons of destruction and nuclear satchel weapons across that border if it's not guarded, if people can pull across.
• 1:24:37
  The other thing is that you've got millions of illegal aliens who have no means of support coming here to be supported by us. We don't have enough jobs for our own people with the economy going down. What are we going to do with an extra million or 2,000,000 people pouring into our cities? That creates an economic problem and a social problem in the cities. And then it makes criminal networks.
• 1:25:00
  And this is something I haven't touched upon, but the Chinese triads and the Russian mafia are very active in Mexico. The drug trafficking, you go back and you read old issues, old Los Angeles Times really covers the border pretty well. They're a pretty good newspaper for the news. And they have stated in their pages that the Mexican Mafia is the subsidiary, is that subordinate to the Russian mafia in terms of drug trafficking and other kinds of trafficking. And you know they're trafficking in weapons.
• 1:25:33
  The Chinese look. You had Scott Goldbranson write a book about how the Chinese twenty years ago were moving weapons through the Port Of Ensenada into Mexico and nobody knew where they were going. He thought they were going over our border. They were setting up weapons caches in The US. He had a number of his witnesses killed after he interviewed them.
• 1:25:56
  And his life was even threatened. His book is The Silent Invasion. I think you can get a used copy online. That was a long time ago. So this whole thing of organized crime in the open border, this is an avenue of an attack against The United States.
• 1:26:12
  And the Canadian border, read, there's something called the Sidewinder Report that was a joint report of the Canadian intelligence service, CIS, and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Sidewinder report was how the Chinese People's Ablation Army wanted to use Canada to attack America in the flank by infiltrating Canada. The earlier caller talked about what was happening in British Columbia and Vancouver. So this is not new. Right?
• 1:26:37
  This infiltration of Canada and Mexico is a huge part of this.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: Now as we're discussing ground forces and ground troops is a good question from the Dane who says that nuclear war is suicide, so it never makes sense. Why a physical war makes no sense. And I remember, you know, reading some of the literature about this, and it might have actually been the the Minister of Defense's speech, you know, out of China, talking specifically about using a biological weapon to kill off a large part of the population so as to preserve the land for farming, which is one of the main reasons why China needs the Continental United States. So do you think that the so much that is pointing to a, you know, kinetic land based attack, is that because maybe COVID had failed? Maybe it was supposed to be worse of a biological attack?
• 1:27:31
  Or how do how do you make sense of that?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, am I allowed to talk about that?
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: Well, we are on YouTube. So we talked we talked a little bit about it. We don't talk much about the
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think it was interesting that this Doctor. Bakhti, the American born Thai doctor who works in Mainz, Germany, made a statement that really caught my attention. He said that he believed that COVID-nineteen was made in a lab, and he believed that it was a weapon meant to kill many, many, many more people. That it was really meant to kill.
• 1:28:07
  But he said, I to quote him exactly, the human immune system is such a marvel that it defeated this weapon. That's what he said. And I thought, wow, that's so interesting. Because in following that, I thought it is a weapon. But did this weapon fail?
• 1:28:25
  Was this the attack that Qiao Chen wanted to do and the weapon didn't work the way they thought because it mutated too fast? It mutated down towards the common cold too fast. I don't know the answer to the question. A very interesting possibility. But about nuclear war, look, folks, you believe myths about nuclear weapons.
• 1:28:49
  I'm sorry. All of you are children when it comes to nuclear weapons. You haven't read about what radiation really does or these bombs do or what generals do. Nuclear weapons are perfectly usable. Chiao Chen in his speech talks about, We have clean nuclear weapons.
• 1:29:03
  Yeah, fusion bomb. If you air burst it, which most targets are going to be air bursted, there's no fallout. It's just a blast that knocks things down and kills people. It's just a blast. You could detonate hundreds of these things and produce no meaningful fallout.
• 1:29:19
  The Australian government did a study on nuclear war in 1980 about how Australia would be affected by fallout. This is if The Soviet Union and The United States, the height of the Cold War, blew up every hydrogen bomb they had. And the Darcels are much, much smaller than they are. They're just a fraction of what they were then. It said, Okay, there would be some increase of leukemias and cancers in Australia from the war, from the fallout that atmospherically goes around the world.
• 1:29:49
  Some. But the cancer rate in Australia would go down because the import of tobacco from The US would be cut off.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: I'm not making it up. Look, people have exaggerated the effects of these weapons, and it's coming from active measures from the Russians. Look, nuclear winter, I saw a scientist that was promoting nuclear winter on YouTube. Somebody posted it on the I watched it. It was brilliant.
• 1:30:17
  He did a mea culpa. He said, Oh, I'm wrong about nuclear winter. It's not real. There is no such thing. And he actually showed scientifically why nuclear winter doesn't happen in a nuclear war.
• 1:30:29
  Well, the US government did a study, which I read thirty years ago, it that completely destroyed the theory. And they said, look, in order to create nuclear winter, you'd have to make a nuclear bomb the size of the Empire State Building. It would take more weapons grade uranium than all the uranium on the earth. You'd have to go to the moon to mine the uranium. It would cost more than the domestic product of all the countries in the world put together.
• 1:30:54
  And he said, Then you can make an explosion big enough to cause the nuclear winter. That is to send the plume of debris up above the stratosphere to cause that effect. The nuclear weapons just don't send the debris that high. The fires from the cities Look, we dumped on Germany the equivalent of 600 atomic bombs during World War II in conventional explosives. It didn't affect the climate because rain just took all that smoke and ash out of the atmosphere.
• 1:31:26
  It did not. We had a volcanic eruption in the South Pacific that was the equivalent of hundreds of millions of fusion bombs. And yes, they've just now recorded the coldest temperature ever in Antarctica last month. So there's global cooling. It's part of what in the Southern Hemisphere.
• 1:31:47
  But it's not nuclear winter. We don't even have the explosive power to imitate what nature did.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: So we've watched too many hours of Doctor. Strangelove, perhaps.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's our consumer society. We want it to be true that the weapons are not usable. I was in a conference with Colonel Lunav and I said, I want to tell you something. Before we went in, we were talking to a bunch of American security experts.
• 1:32:21
  And I said, Americans don't believe nuclear war is possible. They think it's the end of the world. And he looked at me and says, they do? And I said, yeah. They think all the whales and fishes are going to die.
• 1:32:29
  The environment's going to die. Everybody's going to die. And he said, well, how can they think that? It's like, no. Mean, will be some areas will be turned into desert because the short term fallout will kill all the plants and the trees.
• 1:32:47
  That's immediately downwind of And that will be terrible, but it isn't the whole surface of the earth. It's a fraction of the part of the earth. But what people don't realize is most of the people that die in such a war are going to die not directly of the blast and radiation effects. They're going to die because of basic infrastructure breakdown. Look, the war in Ukraine has upset There's 40,000,000 people that don't have enough food in Africa right now that are going to starve just because of a conventional war.
• 1:33:20
  Imagine the destruction of a nuclear war on a bigger scale. How many people in other continents are going to starve to death because our food exports will be interrupted. That's the real loss of life in a nuclear war, not the nuclear weapons.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: Here's a good question. This is from Laura Joe for truth who says, I've heard a theory that Biden would surrender The United States to China. Do you think America has military leaders who will fight against others with our military to defend our freedom?
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: I think that's possible. I don't think that anybody in this country is gonna agree on a surrender of the country if the country's bombed. You look at the Ukrainians. Their cities are being hit by conventional ordinance. Their psychology is to dig in and fight harder.
• 1:34:18
  The same thing happened to Britain in World War II when the Nazis started bombing them. It made them more determined to resist. We did the strategic bombing survey after World War II, what the effect on Germany was. Like I said, we dropped the equivalent of 600 atomic bombs on Germany during the war in conventional ordinance. A very controversial study, it said, No, the bombing really didn't have much effect.
• 1:34:46
  When the Soviet army captured the Romanian oil, it had the biggest effect on the German production. They didn't have enough oil and raw materials to run their factories. They moved factories underground. They built new factories that were more efficient than the ones we bombed. And the bombing, because we did firebombing of cities that killed innocent civilians, the population became angry that, What are these monsters we're fighting that are bombing women and children?
• 1:35:12
  So we're going to resist harder. So Germany fought to the bitter end in that war. And the strategic bombing survey suggested that the strategic bombing had negative effects rather than positive effects for the people doing the bombing. That is, it increased the will to resist of the Germans. It didn't demoralize them.
• 1:35:32
  It made them more angry and determined to defend.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: And I think that we would see a spirit like that emerge in America. We're already starting to see it as people start to realize that what's happened with our government, what happened with the election, everything. We're seeing a lot of Americans really standing up for that. So we're gonna end with one last it's more of a comment. I thought it was a very beautiful comment to end with.
• 1:35:58
  This is from chicken coop lady, who's one of my favorite audience members who says, Jeff, you sir are my favorite guest Seth has ever had on. You're so well researched, intelligent, and refreshing. I really appreciate your viewpoint. Thank you for the strong reality checks.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate those words. Thank you very much. That's very kind.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: So, Jeff, I just want to thank you for taking time. I know you're a very busy man, and you've been on a lot of big shows lately. I just want to thank you for coming on and just sharing your thoughts with myself and our audience here. Very important information. So just as a as a, you know, just a, you know, recap and where to follow you, is jrnyquist.blog?
• 1:36:40
  Is that the best place to follow what you're doing?
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: Yes. Jrnyquist.blog is good. And, you know, I'm working out a longer piece right now. And it's hard because so much stuff is breaking and I have to follow so many things. But yeah, there's the next several weeks that are going to be very important in terms of what's happening.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good. Well, I'd love to have you continue to come on for updates, because I also agree that over the coming weeks and months that we're going see a lot of things unfold in our world, and having you and your perspective is really important. So thank you again for thank you again. And look, for those of you that are watching, I hope that we're wrong. I hope that, you know, all this is you know, I hope that the whole war is gonna be like anything made in China, it's gonna break.
• 1:37:25
  It's not gonna work properly after a little bit, and we're going end up victorious. But I also hope that everyone is preparing the best that you can, you know, learning how to grow food and, you know, find water supplies, you know, thinking about how to heat your home in a winter. These are all really important topics that I hope that you're also thinking about because, you know, America might need us to live to fight to defend our country.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. I agree completely.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Jeff. Take care. God bless. And until next time, you just just, you know, keep doing what you're doing. It's very important.
• 1:38:01
  I'll be continuing to follow your blog. And just let me know if there's any important information you want me to share. I can get it out because I know you're on the forefront of this.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: Alright. Thank you, Seth.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: And thank you for everyone who watched this. I hope you enjoyed this. And for those of you that are on Rise TV, I will see you tomorrow at night for Friday Night Live at 07:30PM. And we'll go from there. So thanks everyone.
• 1:38:24
  Have a wonderful day and take care. Thanks again, Jeff.