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I Am All In…Again: A behind the scenes fun fact about the graduation speech and ceremony, not even the biggest fan of Gilmore Girls would know! (Season 3 E22 “Those Are Strings Pinocchio”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I am all in again with Scott Patterson and
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  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast, one
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  Speaker 1: of the productions iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast. We are going
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  Speaker 1: to recap episode twenty two, season finale, Season three. Those
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  Speaker 1: are String Pinocchio special guest Mitch Silpa. He's returning. Hi, Mitch, Hi,
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  Speaker 1: good to be back. Good to have you. You played Terrence.
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  Speaker 1: You played the hilarious role of Paris's life coach once
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  Speaker 1: she moved in with Rydy Yale. Two episodes. Welcome back, Mitch.
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  Speaker 1: We had a we had you on a few years ago,
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  Speaker 1: but we are back to recap.
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  Speaker 3: I talk about another episode one that I wasn't on,
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  Speaker 3: Like I got to talk about another episode though.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well your your your breakdown skills are strong, so
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  Speaker 1: we thought let's bring Mitch back.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. I love my breakdown skills.
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  Speaker 1: May twenty, two thousand and three was the air date synopsis.
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  Speaker 1: Rory's graduation is upon us. She strikes a deal with
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  Speaker 1: Richard and Emily so that Lorella and Rory can go
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  Speaker 1: after their dream of being in owners. Luke struggles with
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  Speaker 1: the idea of going on a cruise with Nicole while
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  Speaker 1: Rory makes peace with Dean. Directed by Jamie Babbitt, written
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  Speaker 1: by Daniel Palladino. Before we get into it, Mitch, do
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  Speaker 1: you think this was a good finale episode?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually really loved this episode.
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  Speaker 3: And I actually I had never seen this episode and
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  Speaker 3: I'm it made watch it a couple times. I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was a really good episode, Like if I had
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  Speaker 3: just been watching it the whole season, This was a
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  Speaker 3: great one to sort of like end on and make
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  Speaker 3: me want to come back. But I think every storyline,
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  Speaker 3: like her going to Rory going to Yale, uh, Luke
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  Speaker 3: and Larela. I that the trip, the dream that he
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  Speaker 3: has at the end where she tells him not to propose,
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  Speaker 3: and that his dream, all of it was great, great cliffhangers.
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  Speaker 1: Got all good. All right, let's get into it. Luke
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  Speaker 1: and Laurla, we're gonna We're gonna start with Luke and Laurai.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Luke tells Rory and Laura he's going on trip with Nicole.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a cruise to Alaska. They tease him.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a love boat cruise and he's
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  Speaker 1: going to get engaged. He just shluffs it off, and
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  Speaker 1: at graduation Luke tells Laurla he isn't going to go
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  Speaker 1: anymore because it is too much of a commitment, and
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  Speaker 1: she worries that she got into his head about it
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  Speaker 1: with the teasing, and she urges him to go, and
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  Speaker 1: then he says he will. After the graduation, Luke falls
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  Speaker 1: asleep on the couch and has a dream of Laurel
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  Speaker 1: I coming to Luke Steiner and telling him not to
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  Speaker 1: get engaged. Mitch, do you think if Laurel and Rory
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  Speaker 1: hadn't mentioned the love boat comments, he would have he
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have questioned going on the cruise with Nicole.
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  Speaker 4: That's great.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think that planted a scene in his head.
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  Speaker 4: He might have had second thoughts, but I definitely.
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  Speaker 3: Think that that planted a seat in his head for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And this begs another question. Do you think, Mitch, that
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  Speaker 1: Luke is always looking for validation from Laurel I that
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  Speaker 1: it's okay to date other people. It's like kind of
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  Speaker 1: like a heat check with her and see what her
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  Speaker 1: her reaction might be. Do you think, yeah, that's the case.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that that's the big case.
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  Speaker 3: I think they I think he relies on her a
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  Speaker 3: lot for approval. I mean, he seems like he tries
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  Speaker 3: to act like, you know, he's he's tough, he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: need any I mean that's just like the whole thing
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  Speaker 3: is like I don't I don't feel emotion, but he
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  Speaker 3: deeply does, and I think he really needs her. Her
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  Speaker 3: validation means a lot to him. It seems like, m m,
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  Speaker 3: they're so right for each other.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, they're both so crazy.
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  Speaker 4: They're so crazy.
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  Speaker 1: They're so crazy man. The local.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the moment at the beginning that where
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  Speaker 3: they they come over, they have their backpacks on and
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  Speaker 3: he's like, you know, don't leave that here, and just
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  Speaker 3: their whole relate, the whole dynamic of like they don't
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  Speaker 3: really listen to him, and he kind of just begrudgingly goes, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to take care of it.
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  Speaker 4: It's just they have such a great relationship.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like an older brother. Yeah, so you can't
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  Speaker 1: do that. Mom and dad don't want it there, move it,
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  Speaker 1: get it out of my room. It's like his it's
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  Speaker 1: like it's his room. And his sister comes in and
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  Speaker 1: tries to dump her stuff in there and he's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: get it out, now, get it out. No, and she.
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  Speaker 3: Just goes, all right, I'll talk to you later, and
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  Speaker 3: the stuff is still there and he's like, I guess
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  Speaker 3: I have to take care of it.
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  Speaker 1: Lorele and Roy are training for their Europe trip, walking
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  Speaker 1: to Luke's with their big backpacks. Those are very large backpack.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way they used to be. Roy Racey's dean
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  Speaker 1: in a town meeting working with Taylor, hired by Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: and she talks to him about his wedding and offers
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  Speaker 1: him a magazine with pages marked for a wedding gift.
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  Speaker 1: He's thankful they make him amends, so clearly she's okay
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  Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, Laurel, I tells Laurel. I tells Rory
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  Speaker 1: they didn't get financial aid for Yale. She thinks it's unfair,
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  Speaker 1: so she goes, I mean, Rory goes to Emily and
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  Speaker 1: Richard the day of the graduation and asks for them
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  Speaker 1: to pay for it, and she strikes a deal she
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  Speaker 1: will pay them back and do Friday night dinners by herself.
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  Speaker 1: And then Rory gets call after graduation, but nobody is there.
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  Speaker 1: She thinks it's Jess and tells him goodbye and she
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  Speaker 1: thinks she loved him, but she's moving on. That shows
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  Speaker 1: real maturity on her part. That takes a lot. I
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  Speaker 1: mean for a person that's eighteen years old, that takes
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  Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of strength to do that. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: how many people in her position would make the mistake
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  Speaker 1: of continuing on.
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  Speaker 4: With this disaster of a.
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  Speaker 1: Of a relationship. Yeah, what do you think about that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think when you're eighteen year most of those
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  Speaker 4: relationships are disasters.
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  Speaker 3: Especially, I mean maybe it doesn't even end as you
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  Speaker 3: get older.
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  Speaker 4: It's the same.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought she handled that like you said,
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  Speaker 3: like she's an incredibly mature.
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  Speaker 4: Eighteen year old and has a lot of wisdom. And
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  Speaker 4: also that she was getting calls I guess through about
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  Speaker 4: the day of.
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  Speaker 3: Just nobody there and just assuming it was Jess and
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  Speaker 3: being right about it. And I don't know what it
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  Speaker 3: says about him that he's just calling her, not saying anything.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's his I think I also saw that
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  Speaker 1: as as Jess displayings love and strength to just not
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  Speaker 1: say anything, and it was almost noble, where you know,
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  Speaker 1: he cares so much and he loves her so much,
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  Speaker 1: but he knows he's bad for her right now at
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  Speaker 1: this point in his life, so he's withdrawing, but he
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  Speaker 1: still wants to hear her voice. Very sad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he You're right, because you just kind of
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  Speaker 3: he listened, and I think he really like, I think
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  Speaker 3: he heard what he had she had to say and
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  Speaker 3: couldn't really fight what she had to say because it's
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  Speaker 3: you know, everything she said was the truth. She was
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  Speaker 3: hurt by him, and and then said, I have to
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  Speaker 3: I love I loved you, well, I loved you, I
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  Speaker 3: think I loved you, but I've got to move on
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  Speaker 3: right Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know she Yeah, she's she's the sounding board for
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  Speaker 1: his where he's at in his emotional life, in his
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  Speaker 1: capacity to care for and love for another person in
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  Speaker 1: a selfless way, he's just not there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: For me, it just wiped away, you know, all of
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  Speaker 1: his misdeeds throughout the couple of seasons, and you just
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  Speaker 1: see what a bad spot he is in. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: you really now I'm really pulling for him.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, I understand that.
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  Speaker 4: They kind of just maybe have just met at the
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  Speaker 4: wrong time. You know, that's sad.
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  Speaker 1: It is, it's very sad, clearly. Rory had big moments
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  Speaker 1: in this episode. She's making a deal with Richard and Emily.
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  Speaker 1: She handles a jest phone call. What would you have
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  Speaker 1: wanted just to say? If you wanted him to say anything?
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  Speaker 1: What could he have said?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the only thing he could say
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  Speaker 3: is I mean, obviously I'm so, and you're right. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I hear you're absolutely right, and I'm sorry I fucked up.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's all he can say.
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  Speaker 1: But I think this is yet another example of great
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  Speaker 1: writing where you know, not to write anything, you don't
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  Speaker 1: need to just let it sit there and let the
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  Speaker 1: audience sort of wonder about and ask this question that
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  Speaker 1: I just asked you.
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  Speaker 3: Also that moment where she ends the call and they
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  Speaker 3: cut up to him and he's at the phone booth,
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  Speaker 3: it's just kind of everything on his face says that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's you're right.
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  Speaker 4: It's good writing because you don't have to say it.
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  Speaker 4: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: It's just fraught with what's the word on we?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Is that on we?
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  Speaker 4: On?
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  Speaker 1: We?
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  Speaker 4: Is? I think? Is it on we like boredom? Or
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  Speaker 4: is it like? Is it wistful? Is on week? Is
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  Speaker 4: it boredom?
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  Speaker 1: Hang on? Let's I'm gonna look up on week.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good word. I remember learning that in school
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  Speaker 4: and you I.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, you're almost right. A deep feeling of weariness, listlessness,
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  Speaker 1: and dissatisfaction, arising from a lack of interest, excitement, or purpose.
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  Speaker 1: It's more profound than simple boredom.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it's deep boredom.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's more profound.
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  Speaker 4: It's profound.
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  Speaker 1: It's more profound than boredom. So it's a level up
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  Speaker 1: from border, often described as a gray haze or chronic apathy.
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  Speaker 1: Common common synonyms include tedium, lastitude, languor apathy, and melancholic.
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  Speaker 1: I would say that was melancholic.
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  Speaker 3: It was definitely melancholic. I don't think it was like
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  Speaker 3: deep boredom, but it's melancholic. It's with full mm hmmm,
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  Speaker 3: it's sad.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe anwi is not the right word, all right, but
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  Speaker 1: it was a good attempt, Scott. If the professor marked
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  Speaker 1: me wrong on that one, I'm gonna argue. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: argue my case here, just based on this definition. Okay, uh,
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  Speaker 1: all right, So let's go the independence in all right?
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  Speaker 1: You ready? You ready to go to independence? And the dragonfly?
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  Speaker 1: Here we go, Yeah, jump on, Suki Laurel I and
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  Speaker 1: Luke and Kirk check out the Dragonfly and to let
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  Speaker 1: them know what needs replacing. Actually, Suki and Michelle are
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  Speaker 1: going nuts at the Independence End, not having many guests,
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  Speaker 1: and they're nervous because the owner's son is there.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He later tells Lorelai they're going to sell the in
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  Speaker 1: the sun does of the owner because it's too much
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  Speaker 1: money to repair it. Lorelai comes over to Suki and
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  Speaker 1: Jackson's with Champagne to celebrate a new challenge the Independence
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  Speaker 1: End closing. They're getting a severeign's pay and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: They're so sad about it that they decide to celebrate.
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  Speaker 1: Lorelai tells Rory she can't buy the Dragonfly because she's
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  Speaker 1: lost her job at the graduation. Rory tells Laura I
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  Speaker 1: she can buy the ind now because of the deal
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  Speaker 1: that she struck with Emily and Richard. So Lorela is
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  Speaker 1: predictably upset at first, but then she because she thinks
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  Speaker 1: Rory's being manipulated. Of course she does. Laurela I tell
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  Speaker 1: Suki the news and she makes a phone call to
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  Speaker 1: the realtor. They got the end, all right, match the
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  Speaker 1: roles are reversed. Now Rory is doing something for her
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  Speaker 1: mom to help her achieve her dreams. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: lorel I recognizes that or is she too clouded by
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  Speaker 1: what's happening been thinking that Roy's being manipulated.
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  Speaker 4: I think it could be both. I think at first,
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  Speaker 4: I think she's cut.
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  Speaker 3: Off guard clearly by it, and her first reaction is
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  Speaker 3: you're being manipulated.
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  Speaker 4: But I think she also you could tell she can
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  Speaker 4: see that her daughter's trying to do something.
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  Speaker 3: Like very sweet and very thoughtful for both of them.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Rory keeps saying this is a win win
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  Speaker 3: win situation, we all win. But you know, Laura has
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  Speaker 3: issues obviously with her parents, and and she her first
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  Speaker 3: reaction is like, you know, I just want I think
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  Speaker 3: she says, like, I want to win, and I want
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  Speaker 3: you to have a win, and I just want at
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  Speaker 3: one point to have it just you know, basically us
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  Speaker 3: and not THEAM. But I think she sees it eventually
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  Speaker 3: that this is a good situation and and what Rory
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  Speaker 3: just did was incredibly sweet, thoughtful and smart.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean at the end of the day, someone's
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  Speaker 1: got to pay for yeah, and then ain't cheap. So
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  Speaker 1: not even loral I is going to stand in the
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  Speaker 1: way of that.
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  Speaker 3: It just means she has to go to have dinner
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  Speaker 3: with them sometimes with her parents because of this deal.
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  Speaker 1: You know they got they get good food, they get
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  Speaker 1: good meals.
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  Speaker 4: I bet they do.
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  Speaker 1: I I often often fantasized about sitting down at that table.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that I ever got a chance to
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  Speaker 1: sit down at that table. I stood there once like
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  Speaker 1: it like an idiot. But I don't know that if
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  Speaker 1: I maybe once I got to sit down, uh and
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  Speaker 1: and try some food.
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  Speaker 3: I bet they have, like I mean court, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're like four course meals or they have courses.
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  Speaker 4: Right. They do it right, They do it right.
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  Speaker 1: They Emily, Emily does it right.
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  Speaker 4: They dress for dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Who does that right?
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  Speaker 4: Whore?
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  Speaker 3: You see the movies and they're like they come home
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  Speaker 3: like I'm gonna go dressed for dinner.
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  Speaker 4: Dressed for dinner.
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  Speaker 1: You know what that is? That's that that is at
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  Speaker 1: various studio observation, it's so obvious, it's right in our faces.
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  Speaker 1: But nobody else dresses for dinner in this show. And
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  Speaker 1: Emily's in her in her you know, her channel for
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  Speaker 1: Richard's and Richard's in a full suit and bow tie
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  Speaker 1: and they're having dinner. He has his jacket on every night.
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  Speaker 3: They could every night for dinner, and like, if I
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  Speaker 3: have dinner, I'm like, at that point, I'm already in
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  Speaker 3: my pajamas.
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  Speaker 4: Right, That's how I dress for dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Right, You're getting your sweats and your T shirt and
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  Speaker 1: get comfortable.
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  Speaker 4: You don't dress up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Different, And it's just them. It's not like they're having
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  Speaker 3: guests over. It's kind of it's very charming and exhausting.
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  Speaker 1: Exhausting, right, imagine the dry cleaning bills.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine that. Wait, I wanted to say a line that
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  Speaker 3: was said in the scene where they're they're checking out
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  Speaker 3: the Dragonfly and Kurt is upstairs like he's like mold.
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  Speaker 4: He has a line.
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  Speaker 3: You know when they have just like throwaway lines on
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  Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls all the time, it's never done. He has
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: a line about Ed McMahon's dog that I'd never heard
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  Speaker 3: of before getting a mold. He's chacking from mold because
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I guess Ed McMahon's dog got affected by mold and
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: lost its memory. And like I had to look at him,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: like what happened to Ed McMahon's dog, And I guess
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  Speaker 3: that's true.
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  Speaker 4: Ed McMahon said his.
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  Speaker 3: Dog got affected by mold and had like respiratory issues
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: and was a smart dog and then the mold affected it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to have that level of research, yes, but
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  Speaker 1: I get I guess it was something that was happening
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  Speaker 1: at the time, might have been.
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  Speaker 3: It's also like one of those things that if you're
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  Speaker 3: a writer, like it's something that you heard one time
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  Speaker 3: and it just burrowed its way into your brain and
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  Speaker 3: it just popped up like it's such a random fact.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: You know, Amy and Dan are uniquely attuned to pop
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  Speaker 1: culture weirdness and oddities.
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  Speaker 3: It's a perfect and it's a perfect thing for Kirk
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  Speaker 3: to just throw out there.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely perfect. Yeah, that's another thing I love about the show.
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  Speaker 1: It's really paying attention to what is happening in the
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  Speaker 1: in celebrity culture and pop culture, you know, past, past
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  Speaker 1: and present. It's it's quite an interesting element to throw
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  Speaker 1: into a show and to be that loose with it
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  Speaker 1: that it can work. You know, imagine the West Wing
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  Speaker 1: doing that. You know you are. Let's go to the
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  Speaker 1: Chiltern graduation, shall we, Mitch, and we won't tress up
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  Speaker 1: for it either. You wear your pajamas. I'm gonna wear
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  Speaker 1: my sweats perfect. Let Luke wear the suit. But I'm
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: going like just as this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The students at Chilton are recording a goodbye video for
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  Speaker 1: their graduation. Emily and Richard call laurele I at the
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  Speaker 1: end to check about their seating arrangement at the graduation
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  Speaker 1: ceremony and inform her they want to buy Rory a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: carr for her graduation gift. Jackson, Sukie, Luke, and laurele
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  Speaker 1: I are at the graduation basically as backup singers. They're
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: not really in the band, are they. Emily and Richard
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  Speaker 1: throw a fuss about sitting next to laurele I. Rory
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  Speaker 1: goes up to do her speech and thanks Lorelei and
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  Speaker 1: her family. It makes everyone cry. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: those were all real tears. I want to say this,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: and here's a little behind the scenes for the fans.
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  Speaker 1: I Okay, so when you're on set, most actors, if
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  Speaker 1: they have cry, they get that little glass tube blown
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  Speaker 1: into their eye to create tears. Not one of us
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  Speaker 1: did that on that day. That was all real stuff.
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  Speaker 1: The first time I saw somebody having that applied to
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  Speaker 1: them by the makeup department. You know, they hold up
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  Speaker 1: the glass tube and they they'd blow into their eye,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, what in the heck is she doing?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what, I didn't know what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: I said, is this that maybe she got something in
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  Speaker 1: her eye and they were removing something from her eye
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  Speaker 1: to get it out, and the only way to do
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: it was to be careful and just blow it out.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: But anyway, that's that's a technique, and it produces real tears.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe not with the emotion behind it, but it produces
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  Speaker 1: real tears. And it's look, it's it's it's one of
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  Speaker 1: the most difficult things to do for some people. For
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, it's very difficult. For other people,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: it's it's really easy to do to cry on cue.
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  Speaker 1: It is. It is definitely not the sign of a great,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: great actor, but it's certainly not the sign of a
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  Speaker 1: bad one.
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  Speaker 3: That's so sweet that you guys all were genuinely moved
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  Speaker 3: by it, that all all of you just those are
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  Speaker 3: real tears.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody, nobody got air blown into their eyeballs on that day.
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  Speaker 1: And that was a long day. That was a long shoot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot going on in that graduation.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not only hard to cry on cue
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to keep doing it take after take.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they have to like turn it around
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  Speaker 3: or they have to like get it. It's it's a
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  Speaker 3: master shot than the close up. It's like you have
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: to keep that emotion going if you're gonna yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that's really okay, So more more bts for the fans.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: That is when people get That is when actors and
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: actresses get the most prickly, they get the most anxious,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: they get the most you know, nervous, and is when
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: they know they have to cry. It's their close up.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: They've already done the master shot. They've already done the uh,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the semi wides or the or the you know for
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the waist up shots or the two shots or the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: three shots or whatever. And then last but not least,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you know, hours after you have done your your master
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  Speaker 1: shot and held back tears, you know, do you get
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to really let them flow? But you're dry
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: because you've done it too many times. Now, what do
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: you do? Well, you get anxious and nervous, and you've
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: been in that You've been in that situation. Everybody, everybody,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: everybody pretty much has everybody reacts differently.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: The minute it says in a script he cries, you
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: might have just cried on your own, but like if
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: it says he cries you, it's really hard to not
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: like get in your head about it.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I would love. I think if a
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: writer puts in that kind of direction, it's bad writing.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you should.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Just if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: An actor knows, an actor worth assault, knows when or
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: when not to do that. And most of the time
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it's no.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: And sometimes you don't need the tear or sometimes like
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: you know, you can convey everything that you're feeling and
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: if the tears don't come, you can still feel.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: It, you know.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: You know, it's that old theater adage. You know, if
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: you feel one hundred percent, show seventy. If you feel seventy,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: show forty. If you feel forty, don't go to the theater.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Stay stay dressing room. But it's like, yeah, it's like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you know, they didn't pay all that money to sit
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  Speaker 1: there and watch you be emotional. Your job is to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: make them emotional, right.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's the it's the old the old actor stuff,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: but it's not the tears that may usually that make
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: people cry.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: It's the fight. It's the fight to not cry what
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: people cry?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yea many times, many times. Yeah.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Anyway, that scene is great. That's great, between all four
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: of you trying to cry.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: It's funny. And it's a specific kind of crying too.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: It's like funny cryme. Yeah, it's like comedy crying.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's and it's and you're proud.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: It's like a proud you're proud of her, it's you're
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: sad that she's moving on.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: It's all of it. It's sentimental crying. It's great.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: The backup singers had to do comedy crying.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I love that album. The backup singers had a new
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: comedy crying.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the backup singers weren't really getting their moment.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: They just had to go ooh.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Also, I just want to say before I forget, two
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: of my favorite lines in the entire episode are during
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: that graduation and one is just once again throwaway lines.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: When Paris gets her diploma and the dialogue is the
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: headmaster's's congratulations Paris, and she says she takes.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: It from him with a smiler.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Her face says no hard feelings, and he says okay,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: and that's the dialogue.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Just no hard feelings. What are you talking about?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: And also when she's asking you louralies asking for a pen,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: and she's like asking, Luke, Luke, give me a pen,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: and I think you said you have to something like
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: you have to stop assuming I take pens with me
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: everywhere I go, Like this has.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Been a conversation you have had before with her?
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: That made me laugh really hard.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: By the way, just to emphasize how important back singers are.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm going on tour with the band and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: we just brought in a backup singer and she ain't
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: no backup singer. She's the lead. She's unbelievable and it
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: really really enhances the whole thing. So I'm not trying
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: to disparage backup singers or make jokes about them. They
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: are crucial and super important. All right, Emily and Richard
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: give Y a car, but they but the lot is
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: filled with cars with Bo's on them, which is really
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: funny visual it's a prius, the one Leo DiCaprio drives.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: All right, Mitch, did did Rory's graduation speech make you emotional?
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: You know it didn't. I didn't, and it didn't me.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I found it more funny. It was heartwarming, you know.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: Well I felt I felt, I don't I didn't cry,
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: but like it's so yeah, it made me feel something,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: especially when she's talking about her grandparents that part, and
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: I thought that was like and honestly, Emily and Richards
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: react the post such good actors, but like their reaction
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: to hearing their grandfathers say those things, I mean, they
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: just you know.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: We're so moved by it was really sweet, I thought.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: So the support that Rory is receiving is is everything.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: It means everything. And this has been known to fans
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: of the show as a favorite episode of the series.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Why do you think that is much?
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Ah, that's a great question, because I feel like, well,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: everything kind of comes to a head and like it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: the end of a chapter, you know, like it's an
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: end of a chapter of.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Rory and Laura Lai literally living together.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: And the end of Rory's chapter at her school and
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: going on to a whole new thing with the Yale.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: And I think that's that's a huge reason why it
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: just feels like like a line in the sand for
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: the series, like something is a change.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: It's just a big change. For both of them. And
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I think it's also really like people.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Get emotional anyway with people moving, kids graduating high school
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: and going to college's people, it's really moving between a
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: parent and a child to let your child move on
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, I can only imagine I'm facing that
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: in a few years and I can't even imagine it.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: It's hard to even imagine it. But I don't know.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get sick of them, We'll be like happy
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: to get rid of them. I don't see that happening. Yeah,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: but yeah, huge moment, huge.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Huge, And it's like something that I imagine when you
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: have a kid, You're like, I know this is just
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: going to happen, and you want it to happen for them, but.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: When it happens, it's it's like, no, I want some
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: more to Yeah.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: All right, closing thoughts, Final thoughts, How would you rate
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: this top ten? Have you seen all the episodes and all?
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen all the episodes in every season, so
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: what you've seen this is one of my favorite episodes.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I just really liked this episode. I thought it was
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: so well written. I mean, they all are, but this
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: was particularly well written and for what we said before,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: it just packed so much in it because it's such
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: a change for the characters, and Rory's moving on and
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: the two of them are no longer going to be
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: together all the time. So yeah, it's it's it's it's
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: just the emotional impact of it is great.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. Very very special episode.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: And they all are in their own unique way. It's
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: hard to pick the most are so good that it's
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: hard to pick, you know, it's even hard to pick
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a top five, top top ten. All right, Mitch, we
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: are out of time. Unfortunately, you're gonna have to come
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: back again. Sure be a three timer. Uh you want
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: to be a three.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Timer, I'll in the three camera club.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: We'd like you to be a three timer. Right, all right,
• 30:18
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• 30:20
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• 30:26
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• 30:28
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