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The Housing Collapse is Starting (And It’s Going to Get Ugly) - John Perez Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Wholehouse. So as the Fed continues to hike rates in a desperate attempt to curb inflation, A collapse of the real estate market market is starting to rear its ugly head. And according to my guest today, financial wizard John Perez, it's gonna get worse, much worse. But there are ways we can not only get through this, but even thrive.
• 0:26
  And John and I gonna be talking about all this and more on today's show. But before we get started, today's show is brought to you by Rise TV, a Patriot owned streaming platform. With all the big tech censorship and demonetization going on right now, the subscribers at Rise TV are literally the reason I can bring you this critical information today. Over at Rise, our mission is to uncover the truth no matter how dark and difficult while always holding on to hope. We've got a massive content library, an amazing community of patriots, and you get to hang out with me and my guests the second half of every show and ask your questions and share your thoughts and ideas.
• 1:00
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• 1:18
  And also make sure you're watching me on Rumble and subscribing to me on Rumble. Alright. So without further ado, let's jump in today's discussion. So I've had John on before, and he's been called the crypto nostradamus before. But what a lot of you may not know is that he's actually an expert in real estate.
• 1:35
  And I was actually having a discussion with my father-in-law yesterday about the real estate market. I could tell how much he was weighing on him, and I was seeing all the headlines popping up of this collapse that's happening. It's the beginning is here. And I thought, you know what? I gotta get John on.
• 1:48
  So I shot him a message on Telegram. He quickly responded and said, I'm on it. So I am excited for this conversation. And, look, this is a doomy and gloomy type talk. You know?
• 1:58
  It's it's just the world we live in right now, but we're also all about solutions. So we're gonna talk about how you can protect yourself in this time. So without further ado, let's go and bring on my guest, John Perez. John, thank you so much for joining me on Man in America.
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: Glad to be back, Seth. Glad to be back. You have a wonderful show. I always love this show, and I'm glad you're on all these different platforms also. That is really important access.
• 2:26
  And yeah, I'm just happy back. Had such a great time the first time around and many of your listeners have joined and have come on board and it's been great. And many of my listeners have come in and have subscribed to all your different channels. I'm always getting feedback on that there. So happy to be back here to talk more about what's happening in this world.
• 2:43
  And especially in the real estate world, which has been my specialty since really since childhood.
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's, you know, as I look at what's happening, I, you know, I feel very, very fortunate. My wife and I, we bought a house a little over a year ago, and we locked in a thirty year mortgage at, like, three point, you know, three and a half percent or something, which I feel is just like the ultimate blessing in this day and age. But Yes. I I within the past couple of days, we saw the feds, you know, hike up the rates against over 6%.
• 3:14
  So, also, you know, in preparation for the show, I I just went online. I just searched in Google. I put in housing collapse. And every major media, you know, whether it's CNN, Fox, they're all talking about this. So, you know, you've got an extensive background in real estate and finance in general.
• 3:34
  What do you see happening with the housing market? Is this a correction from the the boom we seem to somehow experience during the COVID? Is this another 02/2008? Is it worse? You know, how do you look at what's happening right now?
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna give you a little background on me so your listeners can get an idea where I'm coming from. Back in, let's see, I started a channel called Real Estate nine eleven back in December, December '20 '20 '1. I created the channel 12/13/2021 called Real Estate nine eleven. Well, 911 is a reference to Nineeleven World Trade Center. December Thirteenth, 20 20 1.
• 4:19
  My first post was regarding the Zillow CEO, just some problems they were having because real estate market crashes, they don't happen in a vacuum in a weekend. They really are slow motion crashes, and the signs are out there. So that channel now, every prediction I made on there has come true. Now, let me give a background on myself. As a child, I remember going out looking at real estate, almost seven, eight years old, with my parents going out to a place called Palm Springs in the mid-60s, which was really the hottest place to be back then.
• 4:55
  All the celebrities were out there, it was completely different. But Palm Springs back then was a little tiny enclave next to the mountains there in SoCal, and it was just open land all over. And my dad was buying real estate out there into what areas they're now completely built out. It was like, okay, you got this ampoule piece of real estate. Everything has grown.
• 5:16
  So as a child, I was out talking real estate. Parents were buying real estate in the 60s and the 70s, and that real estate obviously grew in value, and so I was exposed at a young age, going out, walking property. Of course, dad, there's nothing here. I see just a bunch of dirt and lizards and tumbleweeds. He says, Don't worry, son, just give it some time.
• 5:37
  Okay. So that was my first exposure to real estate. Fast forward during the nineteen eighty seven crash, the summer of 'eighty seven, I was pretty much almost a full time triathlete, but I was working part time with my parents, my dad's company. And in that summer of 'eighty seven, that was right before the nineteen eighty seven crash. Read my lips, no more new taxes, stock market straight down.
• 6:06
  That 'eighty seven crash was the worst crash since 1987. That summer I worked with my father's company, and I remember there was all these sales going on, and I said, Dad, where's all these sales? We had a lot of sales going on here. But a lot of it was credit and leverage, And everyone in the entire industry was leveraging out. 1987, summer of '19 '80 '7.
• 6:28
  And I remember I was getting ready to go back to school, August was coming, gold and silver were starting to move again like they normally do. And before I left, I went home, I was just doing some research. There was no internet the way there was now. Had to do real digging. You couldn't find anything out.
• 6:44
  You had to go through magazines or whatever you could, publications. And I remember right, the last week I was at work, I said, Dad, I think we need to pull back on credit. I don't think we should be giving these people credits. This is too much. Because I was going through, have all these accounts that are like back, they're not paying.
• 7:02
  They're like, they're not sending their money in. I'm going out there doing collections, they don't have the money. So everyone's leveraged out. This is 1987 crash. Because after 'eighty seven, what happened?
• 7:11
  Housing crashed. And then put 1987 in perspective, it's either Orange County or national level. In 1996, the average median housing price in America was lower than the average median housing price was in 1987. That was the summer of 'eighty seven. We were peaking up.
• 7:37
  I was like, Deb, no more credit, no more. And we're going back and forth. He was like, Yutan, you're coming here, you don't know how to run this business. I go, Dad, I know credit. I go, This is not good.
• 7:47
  And there was really no writers, there no internet. All we had was fake news telling us that everything was just fine. And there was no internet, there was no analysts, there was no YouTube, there was no Rise, there was no Man of America, was no JP on Telegram warning people this. Well, of course that's what happened in 1987, the worst crash since 1929. Real estate was just still going around.
• 8:11
  When the stock market crashed, it was going down, real estate was still buzzing along because real estate agents were selling, doing business, and you turn on the TV at the 05:00 news, it's like, Oh, look, the stock market's crashing. Oh, that's stocks, we're in real estate. And that's the way people thought, Oh, that's stocks. Well, my father was in the furniture industry. And when you build houses, what do you do?
• 8:33
  You buy furniture and put them in houses. And lo and behold, probably the last two weeks, we've all noticed, I go, Dad, it's like furniture sales are dropping off the cliff. And I said, We need to just cut off all the credit and just go full collection, let's bring the money in. So I just spent the last couple weeks just bringing money and get the money in, get the money. Here, you owe us this much, I'll give you a 20% discount, just send me the cash.
• 8:59
  I was out there negotiating at 87. And Mike said, How are getting all this money? I said, Dad, I'm just giving them a break. 10% off, 20% if you pay today. You send me a cash, I will come over there and pick it up right now, 20% off, 25% off.
• 9:11
  And here I am, if you saw the scene in margin call, when they were selling the market out, the Bear Stearns, they were, you know, discount, a hundred million, you get 10% off, 15% off cash, and they close. That's how you get the deals done when you had to. Well, as this money's coming in, I see school coming in, stock market's crashing. After I left, credit is being lowered down here. Dad tells me, Hey, John, furniture sales have dropped off the cliff just as you said.
• 9:41
  I said, Dad, the stock market's gonna crash. And lo and behold, it crashed. And so that was my first Now what happened now, the reason why I gave the story about my growing up as a kid with real estate, soon, eventually, that market caught up to my father, and we were forced to dump off cash real estate to make up for margin calls on credit lines. These credit lines, they came due. They held you accountable.
• 10:11
  The courts came in and said, You're gonna have to pay this or liquidate. And I said, Dad, it's time to liquidate. This is the way it goes. And thank God we had a ton of real estate that was paid in cash. So I was like, that was paying off the loans that these guys did not make because these were recourse loans.
• 10:27
  In the past, you gave up your house, you filed for bankruptcy, you walked away. It was non recourse. Sure, you had a bankruptcy, but you moved on. So that was my first experience at a housing crash. And then the experience of having to make margin calls and sell off assets.
• 10:43
  Well, what was he selling off? He was dumping real estate to make the business margin calls. You think my dad was picky about getting the highest price? No, it was dump it because the courts are calling. I gotta raise this money.
• 10:57
  I've got ninety days, dump the real estate. So as that real estate's dumping, everyone holding onto their real estate's not real, everything's being sold off. Why? Because the business people, the speculators, the investors, they have to dump that real estate to make their margin calls. And that was my first experience.
• 11:14
  That was a tremendous learning lesson. That was 1987. And by that time, it was in 1991, 'ninety two, I started working for a company called the Sports Club LA, Sports Club Irvine, Sports Club New York, as a trainer, back to being an athlete. And of course, on the side, was real estate and industry with my dad. It's about 1992, '19 '90 '3, suddenly I had all these clients losing their houses.
• 11:41
  And of course, I was busy, busy, busy. I'm like, What? You're not gonna We can't work? And he goes, Yeah, we're losing our house. You're foreclosing.
• 11:48
  And of course me yelled, What's a foreclosure? You know? And I was like, Oh, okay. Well I had like three clients go into foreclosure. 1992, '19 '90 '3, this is four, five years later, the housing market was finally responding to the crash in the real estate market because people were being liquidated, and my father was one of them.
• 12:07
  So now housing's going down, and it went down, down, down all the way until it didn't bottom until 1996. Housing bottomed, because housing always overshoots two or three years over. Probably the real bottom in real estate financially on paper was probably 1993, '19 '90 '4. But real estate, just simply because the banking system, it overshoots two or three years over. So at 1996 prices, that was pretty much the bottom.
• 12:35
  And of course, on my research, I was leaving my career as a trainer at that time, and I had access to a large trust that I was working with through a client that said, I want to go into real estate. I said, Not yet. I I'm moving into real estate now full time, leaving my personal training career, and now I've gone through that bubble, saw my father get liquidated in certain areas here, had to pay off these loans, watched my clients go into foreclosure, very wealthy people losing all these houses there in Laguna Beach and Newport Beach, high end real estate. And here I am, I'm getting ready to go into real estate, but I got a big pile of cash with the client working with me. So I'm sharing you this story so you understand it wasn't like I just decided to pick up real estate and start researching it and broadcasting it here.
• 13:19
  I have a lot of experience in this personally in family, and then personally from having clients in there, and then eventually the third round going into it in 1998, I had access to millions of dollars of cash, and I said, We are going all in on real estate. There's a real estate bubble coming. We are gonna ride this bubble. We're gonna make a lot of money. And I have one client with a lot of cash.
• 13:42
  We piled in, and starting in 1998 from Orange County to Aspen, Colorado, piled in. And to summarize that story, that went in as about 02/2004, '2 thousand and '5. I said, We've been killing it for six years straight. It's time to get out of real estate. It was in 02/2003, '2 thousand and '4, said, It's time to get in gold and silver at the same time.
• 14:03
  We need to accumulate gold, ride the bubble out, bail out at the top, and then let it crash, and then come back in at the crash from there. So that's a history of my background there in the real estate sector. It was in 1998 when I had access to a lot of capital to come in and buy up all these beautiful, beautiful high end properties. I had never worked with a real estate transaction under a million dollars starting in 1998. '1 house we did, we bought for $815 and flipped it for like 1,100,000.0 in about eleven months' time.
• 14:42
  At that point, the real estate agents I was working with, I was more or less a fund manager working with brokers. The real estate agents were saying, How do you come up with these prices and these numbers? You're not a real estate person. I said, I am, I'm just not an agent. That's why I said, I'm a banking guy, I'm a money guy, I am a financial guy.
• 15:01
  I know what the banks are writing, what they're not writing, what they're going to write, and I know when they're gonna pull the rug out, and that rug pull is coming here.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: So Yeah. So with all so
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: as you can I'll pause right there.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. Just because, you know, you've got a lot of reference points for what's happening. So when you look at what's happening right now I mean, you know, we saw I mean, you know, like I said, my wife and we bought a house in the last year. It was the most difficult process. We're getting outbid by a hundred thousand on some homes.
• 15:32
  It was just insane, the amount of money people were spending. So but now it's interesting because you look at home prices. And my parents, you know, they live in a very desirable area of Columbus, and, you know, they saw their home price go up and up and up and up the past couple of years. I talked to them a couple of days ago, and it's now dropping. And that's it's it's frightening, but, of course, what goes up must come down.
• 15:55
  But what do you see happening right now to to the market?
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if everything's compact, everything is going to be impacted much greater here. Have said this, anyone's listened to me for a long time, I've said that the housing crash in 2022, '20 '20 '3, and it's going to go for years. I think it's going to be five times worse than the crash of February I say 02/2008, the truth is, in the February, I worked for the third largest REO company, real estate owned, doing foreclosure. We were getting hundreds, hundreds of subprime, literally an avalanche of subprime loans, and the subprimes returned this week. They're now doing zero down.
• 16:44
  And I'm looking, said, Here we go again, here we go again. And they were coming in hundreds, but it wasn't even in the news. This was the February, which eventually, the paper I was working at belonged to a very large bank that we would all recognize. And that bank was consumed by another big bank, a monster bank that's related to silver. The initial is JPM.
• 17:07
  They took over this bank, and the more I looked at this, I said, Wait a second. I was brought in because people wanted to know, What's your opinion, John, on the market? Someone was following me closely and brought me in and hired me. And I said, It's over, man. It's game over.
• 17:19
  That was 02/2005. And of course, everyone debated me and argued with me. I said, It's going to happen. And the stock market started crashing in 02/2008, it was September, October, '2 thousand and '8, which I believe we're repeating right now, the stock market's gonna crash. Think we're gonna see a 1929 crash here probably in the next six weeks between now and Halloween.
• 17:42
  When that
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: marks that within the next six weeks, we're gonna see not just a crash, like a 02/2008 crash, but a nineteen twenties crash. What does that look like? What what what kind of percentage are we losing on that?
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I I think we're gonna see a the Dow Jones pull back between 8,000 points. We had a thousand points on Monday, and that was just breathtaking. And gold and silver decoupled, but I see a 3,000 to 5,000 move here based on a number of events. The meeting with Vladimir Putin and Xi with the SCO today talking about they're moving to a new gold standard with the Goldback Ruble, Goldback Yuan, which are not announced publicly yet, but they will be soon. We've got another rate increase coming from Powell, which is when he does that rate increase, I mean, it's just going to kill real estate amongst everything else, and then it's gonna increase inflation.
• 18:39
  I mean, there's no way for them to stop inflation at this point. We've had all this money printing now that's all out there, but now it's all being reeled back in. People are trying to save a lot of what you talked about. You go to buy a house, and it's like, Where's all this money coming from? They turned real estate into a casino.
• 18:59
  And so now people were gambling and throwing money and bidding houses up. Well, now you can look it up. The story I looked, Zillow is in big trouble because there's some stories out there talking about these big hedge funds driving the prices up so they can connect with the loans on the outside. And it's out there. Zillow CEO, this headline here, Zillow CEO on getting out of the home flipping business.
• 19:24
  What were they doing flipping homes? Because Zillow was controlling the price. This is another story, it's on my telegram channel, it's called Real Estate nine eleven. I document all this, all straight references. I give a commentary, one sentence.
• 19:36
  You can see when you look at this, what they were doing, they were artificially pumping up these prices, which of course the banks love that, why? It's just more loans to get interest on here. And so
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: They're pumping up because the Fed just printing money nonstop, and most of it's going to be big banks, which are then injecting it into the market, which is why is it right? Yes. We're seeing the stock market's doing great. The housing market's doing great, and it's because they're just it's almost like the great push before the collapse. Is that the correct way of understanding it?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: It's free money. You yeah. Because see, like, you get an you get a loan for 3%, and you can go buy a house. That's that's a good rate for a retail buyer, but the hedge funds and the banks, they're getting it for nothing. So they can go in there and say, Look, we're gonna get this for like damn near nothing, half a point, three quarter of a point.
• 20:21
  We can go ahead and just buy this bunch of real estate, push it up one or two points, and then flip the real estate. And then we make our one or two points on a couple billion. And this happened last time during the dot com bubble, they had people pumping the stocks up, and it was the same thing, but the hedge funds, there was something going on, and I document this at Real Estate nine point one, there's something very smelly going on where, and it's proven now, it's actually proven. They were artificially buying up real estate, pushing the prices up, and now they're getting rid of these. Well, who loses here?
• 20:54
  The man on the street, the man and woman in America who's just looking to buy a house, raise a family, live the American dream, and you go out there, you're struggling, Why are these houses going up? They've turned it into a casino, and now that they're done playing their game and they've got their money locked in, their profits, and they're ready to dump off this real estate. Even if it's a loss, they've made their money, we're gonna see the pullback coming. And soon, when the stock market crashes, during the last crash, a lot of people never saw this. I had friends I warned for two years, Get ready, get ready, they didn't listen.
• 21:30
  When the stock market crashed, the bank stocks went down. What a lot of people didn't see was they froze all the HELOC loans. They froze equity loans lines, they froze HELOC lines, and they froze business lines of credit. And that was the bunker buster of economics that was never Small, small news here, but all of a sudden the banks are not giving out loans. Well, the investors that are real estate speculators, a lot of them, I own three houses, they're cash flowing.
• 22:03
  It's okay, they're cash flowing, but what's your debt here? What are you carrying? That sounds like a liability to me. Oh, I'm using my credit line from the third house to pay for all the things here, rent, and I got rent coming in. It's like, so as soon as that HELOC is over.
• 22:17
  And I saw people that were renters at houses pound on the door, boom, boom, boom. You got three days to get out. Three day notice to quit, get out. You're being evicted. Why?
• 22:28
  I'm a renter here. The owner owns a house. Well, know, this owner, he owns a bunch of real estate. Say, Owning a bunch of real estate does not mean you own anything here. You gotta look at the paper.
• 22:39
  Well, come to find out, many of these spectators, it's gonna happen again too. People need to be careful. Who owns your house and are they leveraged? What happened back then, and this happened everywhere. It was all over the news because of course I was a full time real estate guy at that time, and I was moving full time into gold and silver.
• 22:57
  In 02/2006, I became a broker. But in 'five, 'six I was watching the collapse, and while this collapse was going, they were lowering the interest rates, they were making these teaser loans, you can get in on zero down, you can get in with zero down, and a small interest rate that bumps up. When you got bumped up, you got bumped out. Well, now all this stuff is happening again. But when the bank stocks pulled back in the crash of 'eight, Who came into office in 'eight?
• 23:29
  It was Obama, and Obama came in, and of course the famous video says, Oh, Obama's going to pay our mortgage. We're not going to have whole payments. Everything's going be great. Oh my goodness, the end is here. It's like the biblical end, or like maybe the end.
• 23:43
  And what happened when the banks pulled out their key lock credits, equity lines, and business lines, they did that because the CDS loans were coming in, the derivatives were coming in, and all the banks were exposed. They bought all this bad paper, which was senior paper, but now the derivatives were coming in and the banks were being hit across the board. The hearings came later where you had all these guys hearings, they were under house arrest, they wrote all these bad loans, but these loans were It wasn't like the regulators didn't know, this is just the way the industry works. It doesn't Wall It doesn't help Main Street when you see these events, and to me personally, my opinion is these are all scheduled events. This is just You know, like right now what I see coming here is a crash much worse because there's, number one, there's so much money out there, so many people are leveraged.
• 24:36
  And then we had the COVID. We didn't have COVID back then. Businesses have just vanished. There are so many empty malls, empty businesses, and you know, we've had all the fires in California. Now we've got all this money going to Ukraine.
• 24:52
  There's thousands, record homeless in California since the housing crisis. A lot of people are homeless, they've been homeless since the last crash. We've got record homelessness, but this COVID thing here, there's the possibility of this COVID thing going to another phase of Marburg, and if that happens here, they do another lockdown, businesses are going to be punted right out of business. The banks, when the banks pull back, there's gonna be nothing there. And then people say, well, John, gold and silver are not going anywhere.
• 25:26
  I said, gold and silver are the last line of defense and the last warning label. I said, For now, there is no canary in the coal mine. The canary has been removed, and they put a rubber duck there. So the canary, even if there's no oxygen, the canary will just sit there and smile, because they removed the canary of what? The CPI inflation numbers, consumer inflation, they removed fuel, housing, and there was one other piece.
• 25:54
  You take out fuel and housing from the sea, and these numbers are false. I've, so you gotta go to, what's it called, shadow stats to get the real numbers here. So many, I'm sorry, to go on and on, there are so many variables that are coming in that it's overwhelming, but I've said this since last year, that this housing crash will be five times worse. It'll be far more aggressive, and we have Europe crashing too because of the Ukraine situation. And then we've got propane Armageddon coming this winter.
• 26:28
  We have energy suicide in Europe, and these things are not talked about on the news, which is maddening in and of itself, because I think for me it's a responsibility to get the word out, to get people aware so they start to see what's happening there in the markets.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: And so when you say that they it's a great analogy that they've taken the canary that was in the coal mine and replaced it with a rubber duck so that you can actually see there's no warnings. And so are they intentionally hiding? It's like they know that this collapse is coming. They know that the fiat currency has run its course and that they they can't just keep printing it. And they're in this deadlock between hyperinflation yet raising rates, and they can't raise rates to counteract hyperinflation.
• 27:11
  It's just the more they do anything, it's gonna spin it out into an absolute currency death even quicker. And so Yeah. You mentioned the CPI, the, you know, the consumer price index, which is showing by them removing fuel, food, the the things that are actually really going up and they're driving people's and really hitting people's wallets every month, they're hiding the fact from us. Mainstream media is not talking about the facts that we're entering into what seems to be based upon what you're saying in my own research, almost like an apocalyptic period of just collapse of of currency, housing, real estate, food systems. And it's not like World War one, World War two where the government was on the side of the people, and they're saying, plant victory gardens.
• 27:57
  You know, here's how you can survive this. It's almost as if they want people to hit the wall going a hundred miles an hour and not knowing how to brake until it's too late. Is that correct? And and and what do you think about that?
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I agree. I think you hit the nail on the head. Actually, I was probably being very businesslike coming off in the first part, but yes, I believe this is an absolute planned detonation. This is a planned demolition of the middle class. This to me is an extension of the W.
• 28:27
  E. F. Claus Schwab Great Reset. If you stop and look at it, what I see here is like, well, in order to fulfill Claus Schwab's dream in Europe, this is how you do it here. I talk about propane Armageddon, nobody sees this, there's something coming, and it's a propane Armageddon.
• 28:46
  We're going into what I would call the death winter mini ice age this winter. Actually, there's an Arctic blast coming to UK right now. Energy's a big problem. Starting in October of twenty twenty one, all of our liquid natural gas and propane has been shipped to Europe to make up for the losses of, well, what's happened? They've shipped all the supply to where the demand is, and leaving Americans with no supply, therefore having to bid up the price.
• 29:15
  So as people suffer financially, they're gonna suffer even more this winter. We're gonna see energy bills 300, four hundred, five hundred percent more, just as these markets start to crash here. So in my opinion, yes, If we were to do just a video on just this planned detonation, at the end of an hour, two hours, This is absolutely planned. There's no way you can have these markets disintegrating like this without it being planned. You have I mean, you look at the things I've been saying for a year here, it's like, this guy was talking about this six months, eight months ago, how is it so accurate?
• 29:50
  Because I know the plan. I know what their plan is, and I don't trust their plan. This is a planned detonation and it's part of the great reset in my opinion. I think Biden is just doing the Klaus Schwab on America. And of course they'll point at Russia, Oh, Russia's fault, Russia, Russia.
• 30:09
  Well, of course the dog ate the homework here. Yes, this is a planned detonation against the economy, and I think people really need to I think right now, what I'm telling my people at Silver's Money and my people at Silver Gold Stocks in preparation, I mean, I'm a hardcore there, I don't hold back. You've got to get ready right now, run. You need to like, you know, I don't trust the banking system. I looked at the bail in system, I don't trust it.
• 30:34
  Why is it? There's nothing stopping them from grabbing it. Look it up, bail in laws here. If your money falls under some sort of custodial situation, legally they have the right to take that money. Imagine if the stock market crashes, energy goes up 300%, and then they have a bank holiday on September 24, and all of sudden you can't access your cash because there's some event comes up September, and all of a sudden, wait a second, I have no cash.
• 31:00
  This is what I'm telling people, you need to have cash, you need to have six months of cash at home. You need to have 1,000 ounces of silver. You you need to have enough propane and liquid and natural gas or firewood to last six months in a bad winter. You just have to have that. You know?
• 31:15
  Yeah. You got two Harleys? Sell one of them. Get silver and and energy. We're at that point now where I I have to scream now and just tell people, Get ready.
• 31:25
  There's like no time. How do you know? I've been to this before. But now I said And I tell people that, Okay, it's 01:30, market's closed. What are doing, Perez?
• 31:32
  I am panicking and preparing right now because I see what's coming, and I know too much. And I said, But you know, I can only tell people so much, don't want people to listen, but right now people should quiet People right now should privately panic. What I mean private Okay, I just heard what this guy said. I've been seeing the signals here. I'm gonna sit down.
• 31:52
  I tell people, get yourself a legal pad, put a line right down the middle, put need on this side, want on this side. Whatever you need, you need right here. On your want side, get rid of it, unload it, because if you don't unload it now, as soon as hyper deflation hits after the banks don't have any money, your $20,000 classic car is gonna be worth $3, so just unload it, you know? But gold and silver are not moving, why? Because they're suppressed.
• 32:18
  I covered that in the silver SIOP here. So at this stage of the game, and for your audience, I would say it's time, it's right now, it's right now, you gotta go to work right now. Don't wait, don't wait to see the tsunami. You know, I just heard there was an earthquake and sunset. Tsunami alert, let's go run down.
• 32:36
  No, no, prepare. You know, don't look for it, run from it. Why? Because go to the high ground, but I don't see it yet. If you see it, it's too late.
• 32:47
  When you people see these things happen, it's too late. You have to prepare. I gotta read this quote here from, this is from an old article on Weimar Germany regarding personal properties. There's a lot to this article here. But it says, Capital was preserved by those who early changed into objects of lasting value.
• 33:07
  Rare coins, gold, silver, platinum, palladium. Jewelry, gold, silver. First two things, rare coins, stamps, jewelry, works of art, I'm not art guy, no, not NFTs, antiques, or merchandise such as clothing fabrics, because you won't be able to get this stuff here. Of course, most people did not understand the advantage of accumulating such property until the inflation was well along. In other words, there's this tsunami of inflation, too late.
• 33:37
  You should've went to the high ground earlier. By that time, the price of all goods had ridden so much that they seemed outrageously bad bargains. In the event, however, cash proved to be an even worse bargain. Now imagine cash in the bank and there's a bail in. I mean, switch it out from physical metal.
• 33:56
  I tell people, said, John, I got this, I got all this silver, I got this, I got that, I got money in the bank. Just flip it from metal and said, Wait the coast is clear. Said, The way I see it right now, I see a tsunami of things now to where even me as a researcher, completely overwhelmed by all the various It's like watching that The perfect analogy is the tidal wave in Fukushima. When there's a clip of a van going down the street, and all of sudden it stops, it sees it coming, and it turns around and it takes off. And what do you see?
• 34:31
  Like a 30 foot wall of debris, not water, debris, mudflow, houses, everything, cars, people, bodies, boats. That's what I see coming right now in the financial world. And Wall Street's not gonna tell you, CNBC's not gonna tell you, CNN's lot, because fake news. If there's fake news, there is what? There is fake business news.
• 34:53
  If there's fake news, there is fake weather news. It's all fake to me. At this stage now in the business world. I do recall, remember what Jim Kramer said about Bear Stearns stock? It was trading at $100.109.
• 35:07
  Someone asked, Should I sell my Bear Stearns stock? And it was in the movie Margin Call. Should I sell my Bear Stearns stock? No, no, keep your money in the markets. And John Stewart roasted him for that.
• 35:19
  And the Bear Stearns stock went from $100 to $2 a share because they were buried in this bad derivative. As Warren Buffett would say, derivatives are weapons of mass financial destruction. So in a nutshell, your people on your show, what I tell people, anyone comes up to me and say, Dude, you gotta move right now. You gotta move right now, but why? It's too late to ask why.
• 35:41
  If you look at my work, you'll say, well, this guy was screaming Chicken six months ago. Well, now Chicken Little was right. It's coming here right now. You know? So Actually, so, John, I've a I've
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: got a quick note from our sponsors, which happens to be quite on topic. So let me get through this really quickly, we'll jump back in this conversation. So, folks, by now, we all sense that we're in for a bumpy ride for the foreseeable future. And as this conversation shows you, much of the world is going through a process that experts are calling dedollarization. So what does this mean?
• 36:10
  Well, the US dollar is a fiat currency, meaning it isn't backed by anything of value. You can thank Nixon in the seventies for doing that. The only thing that gives our dollar real value is its demand around the world. But by now, especially under the corrupt and incompetent Biden regime, the rest of the world is fed up with the Federal Reserve printing money out of thin air and demanding a trade for things of real value. So this is why Russia has already backed its currency with gold, and many other nations are expected to follow.
• 36:36
  But what happens if the dollar loses its global reserve status? Well, for most of us Americans, the US dollar is all we know. All of our hard earned money is completely tied to it, whether it's through stock market, bank accounts, pensions, four zero one k's, etcetera. The value of our dollars, our life savings could be literally wiped out in a matter of months, weeks, or even overnight. And look, I'm not a financial expert.
• 36:58
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• 37:19
  Most importantly, you can trust your wealth with Noble Gold. They've got an a plus rating with the Better Business Bureau and hundreds of positive reviews from the folks they've helped. So, look, I wanna be really clear, though. You don't buy gold and silver to get rich. You do it to protect your wealth.
• 37:33
  But if things get really tough, history has left us many stories of folks scooping up land or other valuable assets for a few gold coins. So now is the time. If you wanna learn more about this, open up a new tab right now and go to goldwithSeth.com, or you can call (877) 646-5347. Again, that's (877) 646-5347. Also, so another quick message for you.
• 37:57
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• 38:23
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• 38:54
  It's a hundred dollar value for free. So be sure to use my promo code Seth, s e t h, for your free title scan at hometitlelock.com/Seth. Alright. Thank you for listening, folks. It's interesting, you know, John, because I am not someone if, you know, people that watch my show, I'm not pushing hardly anything.
• 39:13
  I I you know, if if I was making money from all the Bitcoin companies that wanted me to promote their digital wallet programs or anything, but I've told them no because I've been so cautious about only recommending something that I truly, truly believe in. And, you know, for me, it's like right here on my desk. I've got a little 10 ounce bar of silver. This is Yes. This is what I believe in.
• 39:35
  This is real. It's not a number in some wallet. And so you know? And, again, like, whether someone goes with Noble Gold or any other company, to me, it doesn't really matter. Right?
• 39:45
  Like, what I wanna see happen is when all this stuff hits the fan that the folks that were smart and planned ahead, you know, that tsunami isn't coming, and they're left without a boat. So, anyway, thank you for sitting through that, but it's an important message.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the most I think it's the most important message. I I mean, that was one of the things that you know, I've been asked to do a lot of different interviews, but I was very selective, And one of the things that caught my eye is that, wow, great, you were talking about Noble Gold's been around for a long time. And it's a great service that you are offering this to people, because people are not aware. They don't teach about gold in the education system. Your banker doesn't talk about gold, that's the last thing.
• 40:23
  Your broker's never going to talk to you about gold, buy it, because you might decide, Hey, you know what? I got $100,000 in the market. I'm going to buy 50% gold and just bury it. Buy it, forget it, and bury it. You know what, I'm going buy some gold here, I'm going put another part into noble gold.
• 40:38
  I'm going have some over here, I want some at home. And so I think you're doing a big service here because now that's your insurance. I mean, I always give this analogy. For example, there was a ship called the USS Central America, which sank with tons of gold. I've picked up a Central American gold mine, massive.
• 41:03
  Anyhow, once the ship sank, all souls were lost, tragedy, people died. Well, here come the treasure hunters, the gold is still there. If you have a house and you have a floor safe or a freestanding safe that's fireproof, and your house burns down, and your goal is for you to open up the safe, oh, my gold is still there. It's your insurance. No one can take When it's in your hand, it is your baby.
• 41:27
  You know, you're not You can't hack gold, you know, and it's yours, it can't get stolen. Oh, well, you know, someone made off with the gold. It's like, it is your I think that having a layered strategy where you've got gold in places like Noble Gold and Silver and Gold is part of a layered strategy, and it's the way to go. I think that the best thing you've done, you've been consistent on this too, which is wonderful, because people really need to know, and the general public doesn't have all the information at their fingertips, and it's somewhat complicated sometimes. Noble Gold's been doing it for quite a bit times.
• 42:02
  I have a few clients that work with Noble Gold. But I think what's critical here, I talked about the stock market crashing and housing. This was an interesting situation that happened. During the last crash, part of our exit strategy was, okay, so we're gonna get rid of all the real estate. We dumped everything in 'five and 'six.
• 42:22
  And of course everyone thought, so you're crazy, real estate's going up forever. I'm like, obviously you don't know my father and my relationship here. I know this market. I've already been through it, this is my second one. This time I came in, I was ready.
• 42:35
  And boy, we was like, during the last crash, we killed it. So I started prying my client, we had them buying gold at $3.65 an ounce, we ran those houses up to the highest prices, I jacked the prices up 15% over the asking because I knew the banks were at that time doing what they were doing, stated income loans. It's the top of the hill, Newport Beach, Newport Coast, everybody wants to live there, so I wanna buy the house. How much do I need? Well, go down and make a statement to your banker, your loan guy, it's like, I need 2,000,000.
• 43:08
  Stated income, you state what you want, you'll get the address, you'll have the beautiful house, you'll see the ocean, and all the pretty girls will chase you. What more can you buy? Sign right here, sign right here. Client gets our money, we get our profit, gonna buy some more gold, we sold all the real estate, housing's gonna crash when it comes down, we're gonna buy the bottom. We bought gold at $3.65.
• 43:27
  At the end of this market, we were at $1,200 gold and picked up a house at 60%. That person never has to work again, and I went through that entire strategy. The house is paid off cash now, doesn't matter about the rise, doesn't matter, it's already paid off. House drops 50%, they don't, it's paid for. Gold's gonna go to 2,000, that's gonna continue to make money.
• 43:47
  And that's where your position on gold, and my position and now I'm a big stock guy. I'm in this gold stock market. So what about the stock market's gonna crash? Said, you cannot crash gold and silver, my friend. You cannot bankrupt gold and silver, my friend.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and finish about gold and silver stocks, but I have a really important question about the stock market I wanna get to.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: During during the stock market crash, there was a stock out there, and people hope look it up. Homestake mining. Homestake mining from 1891 to 1987. The stock went from $9 a share in 1891, and in 1987, and they made that, they disappeared that company for a reason, and I know why it disappeared. That stock went from $9 a share to what?
• 44:37
  $5,000 per share. And during the stock market crash, I think it averaged 3538% from 1924 to 1932, and during the Depression, World War II, people made on average 30 They were paying dividends and making money. I worked with a family that made a lot of money during the Depression because they own that stock, which is part of my portfolio strategy. If you go back and look, home stake mining, everyone should go, Homework, okay, home stake mining, stock price. Because people always say, Well, John, if the stock market crashes, about your gold and silver mining stocks?
• 45:14
  I said, How do you bankrupt real estate that's backed by gold and silver in the ground? If at the end of the day, really not the It is the stock market, but we're talking about real estate. In the real estate market, the value of the money is on top that they bid it up. When real estate crashes and finally goes upside down, the value goes to the ground because people sell and they panic and they go into housing. If you look at the price of housing back, the price of gold back in 02/2007, it was like $5.95, 6 20 5.
• 45:47
  I was a broker at Monarch's at that time managing about 16,000,000 in silver and gold. And then what happened? 06/00/5750 housing crashed, and what did gold do? Gold took off, and it took off. Silver went to $50 in 2011.
• 46:02
  That was only what? Three, four years after the crash, silver went from $9 to $50. All my clients, I had put tens of millions of dollars of my clients in the gold and silver, and when it finally crashed, they were like, What's up? It didn't affect us one bit. And then I had them in gold mining stocks.
• 46:20
  So there are certain stocks, but homestake mining, everyone should know. I'll read one sentence here. Homestake Mining was able to increase in value from $71 a share to $528 a share in the period when? From 1920, the roaring twenties, to 1940, while every other stock that wasn't gold related went off the Yeah. Yeah, so if you're holding your physical gold, you got something noble, and you got some in the stock market, that's what I call a layered defense.
• 46:55
  And that's what my focus is. I want people to have five Actually, it's a seven layered defense plan where you've got It's like you go to play A good craps player I had a client who was a professional craps player, a lot money. I used to sit there and he's, Okay, we're gonna do this Perez, we're gonna do this here, do this here, do this. This guy's throwing 2,000, 3 thousand, dollars 7 thousand per number, and I'm watching It took me a while, following, I saw a pattern. And I saw a It was five moves that he always used.
• 47:24
  I said, know you're always doing the same thing. He goes, That's my money right there, that's my foundation. These here are the long shots. Got the 50 to one, got the 100 to one, but I gotta do these here consistently. I thought, This is no longer gambling.
• 47:36
  This guy's got a strategy. Well, worked. So it's to say I did the same thing in this market. Lessons that I learned in the prior cash, where I had one client who was already a high net worth client, They already were multimillionaires. I was able to take that strategy and put it into a larger pack, and now this time I plan.
• 47:57
  This time I am waiting for this crash. I am waiting for this tier. We got Basel III, we got Russia going to the gold standard, we got China going to gold standard, and we got the dollar collapsing, and we got Powell self destructing the economy. And what's really gonna throw us off the cliff is when we hear about the Russian oil cap, the Inflation Reduction Act by Yellen is a Trojan horse. We're only gonna pay $60 a barrel for Russian oil.
• 48:24
  Russia's gonna say, Niet, we're not gonna sell it to you. You will have no oil because you shipped all your oil and natural gas to Europe. Now we have nothing, and it's gonna backfire. It is gonna backfire.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: So I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: wanna talk about came out the article yesterday.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the in terms of you know, you said that the you expect the real estate to be five times worse than 02/2008. So what is the timeline of that? Let's just say that right now a house is worth a million dollars in your average area. I'm not talking about, you know, in the reddest county of Florida where everyone's moving to, but it's your average house in America's worth a million dollars.
• 48:58
  In six months, what do you see the value of that house being?
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: I'll say a million dollar house in in pretty much average area. I think by spring, I'm gonna say spring, I'm gonna say May, we bottomed in The stock market bottomed in 03/09/2009. The S and P 500 went from I forgot what the high was. From October 2008, it was in March 2009 that the S and P five It was just collapsing. Went all the way down, it bottomed at six sixty six S and P 500 on 03/1800.
• 49:37
  And from there, that's when the stock market based. But as I said, the housing market tumbled all the way until 2012, in some cases never recovered. So that was the paper side of things, but it was that I was out in the field and I was like, Oh, well, the stock market's got a base. I go, Yeah, but that's only a small number of Americans have stock. A lot of people don't have stock.
• 50:00
  That's a small sliver. It's not legitimately representing Main Street America, very important here. It was by that spring and that summer, it was like the cartoon where the big snowball's coming down and there's hands and steep poles sticking out of the big avalanche. The snowball's getting bigger, and it kept going, it kept going. Even though the stock market based out, they had done enough damage to where the rug was pulled out.
• 50:24
  So if I was to take a number, I'll go with the summer. Let's say take a number from housing's already pulled back now. Let's take a number from today, 09/15/2022. If a house is like a million dollars right now, it probably was probably 1,100,000. Three, four months ago, were probably asking 1.1.
• 50:42
  It's now a million because the price cuts are coming in. I'm gonna say by next summer, the selling summer, selling time comes along, that house is gonna be selling somewhere between 600,000 and 700 and At least, and 800,000. 6 hundred, it's a big gap there. All depends, but I think it's gonna be a big pullback. And the equation that nobody's talking about, I'm the only one on planet earth who's gonna even say this, the energy situation this winter is gonna be a black swan event that investors and the average person are just not gonna see it.
• 51:18
  I'm telling people, Get a wood stove and call up your wood guy before Halloween and ask for three or four cords of wood.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, we just bought, like, 15 cords of wood. My whole back my whole backyard is a mountain of wood. Yes. Yes.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So Seth? But Man in America. Yes.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But see,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I I this
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: is like, I would never recommend for people to do something that I don't personally do. Right? I've got backyard chickens. I've got lots of firewood getting my wood stove installed in the next couple of weeks. But so, John, if there if so if real estate, say, comes down within six months, say, 30%, which is that's big.
• 51:55
  That's significant.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: That's monster.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: What you know, what happens to the stock market? And most importantly, I mean, we've talked a lot about solutions here. And, also, I wanna encourage people to quick side note to if you're on Telegram, go follow John. Go just search for silver is money, and you're gonna find John's group. It's about 5,000 active people.
• 52:17
  Hopefully, after the show, it gets to six, seven, 10 thousand. That's it'd be fantastic.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Super active.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: If you're not on Telegram, then create an account and go to the silver is money group. It's a great place where you're very, very active, and that's where people are gonna find a lot of solutions because, look, you know, the people that rushed out and they're on their third or fourth booster and they think this is all conspiracy, you know, as much as I want to, we can't help them because they won't listen to us. But for
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: all of
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: you that are watching, you know what's going on, and you've got really smart people like John that are trying to say, look. This is what you can do to really protect yourself. So I wanna encourage you to go follow and join John's group on Telegram to search for silver is money. But the you know, one thing I really wanna know, John, is what happens to the stock market? You know?
• 53:02
  And this is not even getting into the collapse of the dollar. You know, once OPEC comes out and says, you know what? You know, the US dollar is no longer the only major currency. We're gonna be doing tons of other currencies. You know, when we lose that reserve status, that's a whole other you call it the black swan.
• 53:18
  That's like the black dragon from hell event that happens globally. But just looking at the normal trajectory of the housing market coming down and all this, what do you see happening to the stock market? And I'm talking the the mainstream stock market, not the silver and gold mining stocks.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Perfect question. Perfect question. I'll tell you this what I see. This is one scenario, and there could be many, but this the one scenario I have is that the stock market loses 50%, fifty, sixty %. It can overshoot.
• 53:46
  So we're talking, I'm not sure what the Dow is today. Let's get a live price here. So the Dow is down, it's at 31,000. Okay, perfect. 31,117.
• 53:59
  The Dow losing fifty, fifty five, 60 percent would put us at what? $15,000 Dow. Now, if the Dow went to $15,000 my one of one scenario of many, because I corner myself with scenarios because there's too many variables here. So I would call this a Mr. Various Variable Scene.
• 54:17
  There are so many variables that it's like, but I will say one scenario I have is a one to one Dow reset, which has happened before. That is the Dow Jones going down 60% down to 15,000. And then what does gold do? It corrects back up to a one to one. One ounce of gold equaling one share on the Dow.
• 54:38
  And you can look this up. This has happened before. This is not an obscure conspiracy theory. So all of a sudden, you're sitting at home, you're like, Wait a second here. If gold goes to $15,000 and then the gold to silver ratio resets, then it goes to 10 to one, and all of a sudden that would put silver at $1,500 an ounce.
• 55:00
  Well, yeah, if you got 1,000 ounces, you got $1,500,000 You lost 70% of your house, but you made it back on your gains in silver. So they're your insurance. That's what your insurance plan is there for. That's your bulletproof vest. Economic body armor is silver and gold.
• 55:19
  So a DAO to gold ratio of one to one, dollars 15 thousand DAO, dollars 15,000 gold, and to add silver in there, if silver corrects back to its normal ratio of 10 ounces of silver for one ounce of gold, that would put silver at 1,500, that would put gold at 15,000, the Dow Jones at 15,000, housing down 50%, and all of a sudden, you've got a potential basis there for a total reset that you can restart from there. Now, I can go one step into conspiracy land, talk about the IRS going away, and The United States no longer being a seventeen ninety three corporation belonging to a foreign state, becoming a republic again, a US constitutional republic, and suddenly that housing debt wiped away in a jubilee. You're, oh God, I'm down on my house. You know what? You really shouldn't be down.
• 56:16
  Why? Because the bankers created this fake number here. So in my opinion, I don't believe Americans I personally don't believe that Americans who lose any equity in their house, I don't believe it's their debt. I believe it belongs to an entity that created that debt here. So I have a kind of If I had a dream scenario that I would speak about in public, it would be that scenario where we have a debt jubilee, housing lose 50%, Dow Jones fifty %, gold up to 15,000, silver follow-up back to its normal ratio.
• 56:49
  All this debt to me, in my opinion, should be put All this debt should be taken away, put into the Federal Reserve, since it's a private corporation, and flush that whole thing down the toilet and bring back a gold backed constitutional republic with the Second Amendment and First Amendment, because much of this debt was created by bankers who were influenced by foreign entities. So to me, one If I was running the country and I was a central planner for The United States, and I had to look at some realistic situation, because I'm not a doom and gloom black pillar. I believe there's hope, and if the meek are to inherit the earth, then we are not leaving. Somebody else is leaving. But the meek, if they inherit the earth, that means they're not leaving here.
• 57:35
  So on the other side of things, I think a Dow at 15,000, gold at 15,000 would be a great place for a guy like Trump to come back in here and talk about a gold standard since China will be on a gold backed yuan. Russia, this may be the place for United States to step in and intervene in the current vegetable administration we have called Biden, which he did not win the twenty twenty election here. Trump repositions himself back into play. Americans will be oh, at that point, most Americans in this kind of situation, most Americans will be suffering so much, they will be at the precipice of realizing that this whole situation that we had was unfeasible from the beginning, but the Democratic Party should never exist again after this. It should never it should
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: it is over. And most of the Republican Party too. It's not like we need a whole
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Yes. The RINOs.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And you know
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Trump said.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: It is you know, you bring a really good point too because it's easy for people, especially looking at the overall discussion on the show, it's like, oh, you're blackmailed. It's like my perspective is this. I I also believe, similar to you, that we're going to go through a significant collapse of a lot of our systems. And the reason is because a lot of our systems are evil to the core. They're corrupted, evil, rotten systems.
• 58:53
  Mhmm. If you wanna get rid of them, it's like if you have cancer on your body, you have to cut it out. It's a painful process. It doesn't just remove because you ask it to. So we have to collapse this old system, and that's what I'm preparing for is to get through that period of time the best I can and help my friends, help my families, help the audiences that's watching to do make the right decisions now to protect themselves because God's gonna need us on the other side of that.
• 59:19
  Because on
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: the other side of that,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna need, you know, true God fearing, you know, patriotic god.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: It must be people now. Yeah. To to really rebuild now.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: The nation and rebuild the world. So I I'm I'm right with you on that. So, John, we're now gonna trans transition into the q and a portion of the show. And I've I'm seeing we've got a huge list of questions, which are gonna be a lot of fun. And I also I wanted there's a lot of discussion about September 23, so I wanna get your thoughts on that September 23, September '20 fourth.
• 59:52
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  We can have that entire discussion over on Rise TV. So I just wanna make sure that everyone that's watching goes to Telegram and finds silver is money and joins your chat group because there is so much important knowledge that is being shared in that. And you're, I mean, you're dropping messages and and content. It seems like every five minutes, you're interacting with that group. So it's just a fantastic place because all of us that are watching, we have a role to play.
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  And whatever's ahead of us, we have to be able to get through it, which we will, and rebuild mankind on the other side of this. So any final words before we jump into that q and a, John?
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you. September 24, September '20 third, I believe that date that's a key date here. That was pretty much when the stock market started crashing back in 02/2008. So there were a lot of things that came out during that time. I believe that we I think in that time period between within twenty four to forty eight hours of the twenty third to the twenty fourth, We're probably gonna be some seeing some sort of event.
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  I I I think we're gonna see I think Russia is gonna start bombing leadership in Ukraine. I think they're pretty much they they realize they have to go to the next level. I think I wouldn't be surprised to see China invade Taiwan during that period of time there. You got the Vatican pulling in all their The Vatican's pulling in all their money, their assets. So if the Vatican is doing it now, then you better get it.
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  You better hurry and move quick quicker. So It's not just the Vatican.
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  Speaker 1: You look at the COMEX, the elites, the big banking families, they're all pulling in physical gold and silver. They have been for the past couple of years. I mean, I've got Andy Shechman coming in on pretty often. We've talked a lot about that. So, hey.
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  Let's go ahead. Let's continue this conversation over on Rise TV. I wanna dig into the Vatican a little more over there. But so if you're watching on the public streams, we're gonna to say goodbye to you, but please come join us on Rise TV. So, Dom, you can go ahead and cut the public streams.