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Ken's Back! Recapping USA over Canada in hockey, Iowa & ISU men fall, Hawkeye Women's Big win & hockey talk with Joe O'Donnell · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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Monday, the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Trent Condon, Ken Miller for the next couple of hours to talk
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sports with you. Thanks for starting your
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afternoon here with us. Here's what's coming up on our
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program. Bottom of the hour, Joe
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O'Donnell. He is the voice of the Minnesota
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Wild. We'll talk hockey with Joe
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O'Donnell at the bottom of the hour.
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Recap yesterday coming up here at 12:30 in the one O clock
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hour, Bill Seals covers Iowa State cyclonereport.com, part of
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the rival slash on three network.
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Bill Seals, the latest on Iowa State men and women as they both
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went down to defeat over the weekend.
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We'll get some football information in there as well
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from Bill Seals and then John Bowen Camp will double dip with
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John the women. Iowa had a nice win yesterday
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over Michigan. Meanwhile, the men fall on the
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road in Madison. Trent will have some plays of
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the day before we sign things off to off the bench coming up
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here at 2:00. So we've got you for the next
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couple of hours. We appreciate you being here
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with us. TC, good to see you.
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How are you? I'm doing great.
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How was vacation? I'm good.
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Good. This is good.
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Good. Yeah.
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Lost my glasses the very first night on the road and had to
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drive 5 hours without those. That were five days rather,
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which was kind of unpleasant. But plan was to go to
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Charleston. Never saw Charleston other than
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passing through maybe the Folly Beach.
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And Cindy and I both love beach towns.
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We just parked right there. Nice.
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Yeah, it was great. It was really good.
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So no trials and tribulations on the way outside of the glasses.
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I was kind of waiting for a disaster.
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Like, Oh yeah, we actually turned around on Tuesday.
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Yeah, No, no, there really wasn't.
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It was a country we'd never seen before.
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I'd never driven through Tennessee and never been to the
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Carolinas. Charleston was a disaster for
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for the traffic we got there in rush hour.
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And of course you're listening to Siri.
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And it means it's just, you know what rush hour traffic in a big
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city is like. It's the infrastructure.
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You exit. You exit a, you know, an
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Interstate and you're in the far right lane and there's bumper to
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bumper traffic and it's turn left in 50 feet.
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Well, how the hell am I supposed to do that?
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Yeah, Yeah. But we found the beach.
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We stayed there and had a ball and, and just, you know, kind of
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deprogrammed a little bit. Not that I didn't watch sports.
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I watch sports every night. OK.
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But so it was that a shutdown? No it.
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Wasn't a total shutdown, No. I could have taken yesterday
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morning off. That would have been fine.
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But we will get to the curling. Yeah, OK.
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A lot of celebration. Recapping.
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The the, the men's curling at some point during the program
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here today, But look at let's let's start with a puck from
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yesterday. It was a phenomenal game.
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It was an unbelievable hockey game.
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Hats off to, to Team USA for pulling that off.
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I think it's great for the game that they won.
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I do it. I've been saying it for years
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that US and Canada are essentially on the same plane
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when it comes to talent. And it's true.
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And it was proven out yesterday. I think Canada was a better team
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on the ice yesterday, but the court score doesn't indicate
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that. Into the winter go the spoils
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and they star spangled banners playing when the when the boys
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are standing on the podium. So well done.
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Phenomenal tournament really was Olympics was good.
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I enjoy the curly personally. Yeah, I love Curly.
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I watched a lot more than I anticipated and it just sucks.
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You win. It does, doesn't.
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Yeah, it's one of those weird sports that it's enthralling.
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It is a little too long sometimes.
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Maybe at 10:10 A's is a long time, so when so growing up cool
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guys played hockey. Of course, yes, yeah, yeah.
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The guys that couldn't skate curled.
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I think us hockey players, in hindsight, had it wrong.
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Yeah, you've seen women's curling.
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Right. Absolutely right.
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And everything that comes along with women's curling, I think we
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had it wrong. But I think I wish I would have
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curled because it would have been maybe a lot more social
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opportunities. Yes, absolutely.
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Where I'm going here, but that was great.
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The Olympics were fun. I love the Winter Olympics, but
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and just to culminate them and look at they had to play the
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game at that time of day, right? There's a time zone difference.
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They're not going to delay the closing ceremonies to midnight
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in Torito, right? For us, yes.
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Right. Did you watch any of the closing
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ceremonies? Not a second as soon as the
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game, soon as they scored the overtime, when I clicked the TV
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off I'd had. Enough I I'm sure.
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Yeah, that would go for a little walk with the mark.
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Yeah, that left the mark. Stinger Yeah, two things.
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The closing ceremonies, they're just weird.
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Are they? I flipped them on last night.
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We're watching. Oh, you're watching J Delay.
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Yeah, the tape delay. And it's just what is going on
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here? What has happened?
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I couldn't wrap my mind around it.
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It's too, it's too kind of big picture, kind of weird stuff
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that that for me and I, I didn't get it at all.
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So that was enough for me. So it's more than just the
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countries walking in, yeah. Yeah.
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And it's not that because it's there was, I don't know, music
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acts that were going on and a lot of things in Italian and
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then passing the torch and all these different things.
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Yeah, I guess not built for me by anyways the way that that was
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built, but what other thing on the hockey?
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I got one more 2. Hellebuck yeah.
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So this year gets. So damn frustrated with this.
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I mean, I watch this guy game, right?
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I watch every Jets game. This is Connor Hellebuck, every
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regular season game. And then the playoffs get here
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and you realize why I get so pissed off?
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Because he stinks. He was so good.
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I mean, let's talk about standing on your.
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Head, Oh my God. That was without him.
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They could be 52, probably 5-1. Yeah, probably you.
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You just put a standard goalie in that, right?
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That's probably what it was because that ice was tilted.
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It was the whole time, other than the first, say, 8 minutes
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of the game. The Americans came out on fire.
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On fire. But you're right, the ice was
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tilted for the rest of it. And Hellebuck was the major
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difference in the in the hockey game.
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Three on three. I like 3 on three, Yeah.
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And if you're going to let Canada start Makar and McKinnon
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and oh, McDavid, yeah, I take our chances.
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Feel like you're in pretty good shape you.
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Feel like you're in pretty good shape, but but look at those
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three. Gave up the goal.
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Not for this season, because The Jets aren't going to make no.
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They're not going to make playoffs.
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However, going forward, does it give you a little bit of hope as
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a fan that what we saw in this pressure pack of environment is
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you're going to find that this is going to be potentially Hella
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Buck say next season they get in the playoffs and finally he can
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translate the best regular season goalie and become the
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best playoff. Goalie, and he is.
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He's won three Vesnas. I mean, a baseball analogy.
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Cy Young winners don't win the MVP.
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Vesna winners don't win the MVP. Hella Buck did last year.
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They had to give him. He's that good during the
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regular season. My God, he was good yesterday.
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He was so good yesterday. And I got a little note that you
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were going to sing that Canadian National anthem if it were you
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guys to. Start because I got so many of
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those texts as well. I could I could I actually, I, I
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sang it to myself just to make sure.
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I still it's been a long time anyways.
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And you got, well, you between the two, you are definitely on
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the top tier of our singing voices.
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Yeah, I Can't Sing. At all, Yeah.
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If I and I get to hear every commercial break, yeah,
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sometimes with a little Jingle. You never know what's going to
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come out of kids about 3 commercials.
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Absolutely. So let let's kind of recap what
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we what I've, I guess I don't want to go all the way back to
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the Super Bowl, which wasn't much of A game.
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No. Pretty boring.
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Pretty boring game. Which commercial won the day?
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Because I did not see it had to be the Budweiser.
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The Budweiser, that's exactly where my mind went.
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So yes, that had to be the one. It was, it was so far and away
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for me anyways. I thought that was the best
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commercial when, when the eagle flies off the Clydesdales back.
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I mean, come on. Yeah.
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And that did make me cry, Did it?
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It got you? Yeah, a little bit.
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I told you I cry at commercials. And that was an example.
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Of another one of. Them.
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But the basketball, I mean, you could see Iowa State going into
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BYUBYUI had to, you know, had to put it together.
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Iowa yesterday against Wisconsin.
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I was gonna make the tournament. Yes.
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They got four games left and they got kind of 2.
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Penn State, Ohio State. And then Michigan.
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No. Ohio State, Penn State,
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Michigan, Nebraska. Yes.
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Correct. Those final 2, Michigan's just
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daunting. You mean you talked about
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matchup problems? That game against Duke on
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Saturday, that was high level basketball.
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Oh my God. The guys weren't making shots
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because the defense was so good. Yeah, we tried to envision the
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Iowa offense against that Michigan defense.
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Yeah, good luck, I know. Getting anything going against
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them and then what they probably have waiting for him in Lincoln.
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Yeah. After that last week, yes.
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That was a hell of a game. That was fun.
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It was a hell of a game, yes, and very entertaining.
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We got a lot of mileage, as you can imagine, out of that.
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A lot of different angles and both during the game and then
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after the game. So we got a lot out of that one
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boy. Sanford's having a year, isn't
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he? Yes, unless he's got Ben Sturtz
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on him. Well, true.
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But yeah, that's true. But you know, he's not playing
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Iowa and being guarded by starts.
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He is putting together one hell of a campaign.
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This week is incredibly important for Iowa because.
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Especially Ohio State Game I. Think and talk about bad
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matchups. What's Iowa struggled with?
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And we saw it again yesterday with Nick Boyd, guards that can
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get to the rim and what can that dude do?
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He can get to the rim. And now Bruce Thornton comes to
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town as good of a one-on-one player as we maybe have in the
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Big 10. That's saying something.
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Yes, and there's a lot of them. That's how good Bruce Thornton
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is. He doesn't have a lot of pieces
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around him, but you have that concern.
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We had a guy that had, what, 22 points going in from USC that
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goes off and scores 32 and just go into the rim time and time
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out and it's continued throughout the course of the
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season. That is a tough matchup.
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You win these two games this week, though, You're fine.
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Yeah, I think you. Are you're not going to Dayton?
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No. You're solidly in the
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tournament. Although is that a bad thing if
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you go to Dayton? I mean, I know it's obviously, I
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think I'd rather be in 11. I really do.
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And I know you have to play your way to get to that.
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Yeah. Got.
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An extra game? Sure.
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More travel? But I mean, you win the 8-9 and
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who's waiting for? You right, exactly because
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there's there's at. Least three heavy, I don't
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think. Iowa State, obviously, you know
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the loss to BYU, I was going to knock them down a peg.
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I was not beating Duke or Arizona, No, no.
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Yukon, No. Michigan.
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No, I mean, obviously they wouldn't see that, but.
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No, they potentially can now. Oh.
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That's true with the new rules. We saw that Des Moines a couple
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years back with Minnesota and Michigan State.
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Yeah, relatively new. If you only play a team once
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during the regular season, you can see them in the round of 32.
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So even Michigan's not completely crossed off, but
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unlikely. Still, regardless of that group,
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I was not beating any of those. Teams Duke.
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No. Boy, boozer something, isn't he?
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Who's the best player in the country?
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Boozer is the runaway favorite for Player of the Year, but boy,
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watching Saturday night, it's hard to say no to De Bansta,
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isn't it? De Bansta.
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What a game he had. His ability to do so many
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different things too. It's not just he's a scorer,
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though. He is the leading scorer in the
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country in the Big 12. Now, we're not talking about a
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kid from the Horizon League. He's doing it in the Big 12 as a
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freshman, and I know everybody. Darren Peterson, NBA honks
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Darren Peterson. Darren Peterson, How?
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Can he trust him? You can't.
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You absolutely can't. He doesn't like the game trend.
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I'm convinced of it. I really.
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AM get a lot of Ben Simmons vibes.
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Yeah, kind of. That's a good one.
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That's a good one. And that's not that's not good
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to have those. Vibes.
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No, not at all. Because this guy does not like
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the game one little bit. It wasn't a talent thing ever
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for Ben Simmons. It was a want, and the want
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doesn't feel like it's there for Peterson, even though he played
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over 30 minutes against Cincinnati.
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They got blown up by Cincinnati. By 16, he.
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Was playing better and Cincinnati pulled away well,
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they. Got a couple of good wins.
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The Bearcats. They do They're, you know, I
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saw, I think it was Lenardy. He still has Oklahoma State in
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the next 4 out. And no.
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Cincinnati and looking at the resumes and the comparisons and
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I, I couldn't wrap my mind around that.
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It's just not what they've done lately.
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Overall resumes that wasn't exactly close, but to Saturday
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night, you get the late tip off. You rewatched it?
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Yeah, no, I watched till 10, No 8 minutes left in the game.
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OK, yeah. And then got up and watched it
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before they dropped the puck. And just seeing that environment
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that the way that they support that building used to hold
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22,000 they've gone through. And is there really only one bar
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in Provo? Is that true?
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I don't know. Because I saw on Twitter Cyclone
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fans found that. Not surprised, right?
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Exactly. And there's only one bar.
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Does the does it only serve me your beer too?
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I wonder. You wonder, right?
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Right. That was like that.
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Weird thing thing here on Sundays that.
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Was Minnesota was the one that. That where it was.
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That's where I remember it too. I think because wouldn't I'd be
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going back home and I got to take as much American beer as I
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can. Yes, and I think we'll leave it
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on Sunday. You could only Was it?
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Was it called 3 two or something?
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Yes. Yeah, that sounds right.
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Yep, absolutely. Yeah, I remember those days, but
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that was just a Minnesota thing. I.
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Think so you want to stock up on Saturday because Sunday you
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wouldn't be able to get the full freight, right?
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It's like, are they, are they actually brewing it differently?
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I'd be wonder, right? I always wondered that too.
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That was it was almost one of those things was isn't really
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true anymore because I was a little bit later getting to
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Minnesota than you were and drinking beer.
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And I just always wondered if that was something that was
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real, but it was for Iowa State. Okay, I guess you have the road
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woes. The question I guess continues
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there. But on the heels of getting that
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final number one seed, the good vibes that were happening all
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day long, the losses that were happening for some teams across
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the country and you started dreaming a little bit.
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Boy, you kind of look at this path here and, and solidifying
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yourself as that number one seed.
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They're fine. I, I didn't see anything.
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Oh boy, here we go again. Or anything.
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Did you have our bracket guy on what's his name?
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Dave Oldman. Dave Oldman, yeah.
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Did you have him earlier in the week?
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Did he? I did he at that time.
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Now, that was before the UConn loss to Creighton.
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Of that was another head scratcher.
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I thought it was interesting too, that UConn was ahead of
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Houston when you looked at it because I thought it would come
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down to Iowa State or Houston, so that.
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Houston Iowa State game earlier last week obviously carried some
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weight. Yes, it is interesting and
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listening to the other side and hearing Houston fans
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specifically because that loss to create, that's a quad three
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loss for Yukon. I mean, that's pretty
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debilitating to your resume even with the name brand of
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Creighton. And obviously the Midwest
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matters a little bit more I'm sure than it does nationally.
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Still, you look at the 2 Iowa State losses that they have in
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comparison to what Houston has. I know it's a head to head, but
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it was at Hilton. If that game was in Houston, it
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probably maybe went the other way.
15:04
Speaking of Houston, so we've got Kansas and Houston tonight
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on Big Monday. What gives?
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Houston? Do they lose three in a row?
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No. Does Kansas lose on a Monday at
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Fog Allen? Yes.
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I mean, I think they do, but you get my point.
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Absolutely. Yes.
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That's almost like a free square.
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Kansas at home on Monday. I don't care who they're
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playing. I'm taking The Jayhawks.
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Bill Self seems more known. He's had the health problems
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now, Peter. 'S just got to be killing him.
15:29
Oh absolutely. How do you coach this guy?
15:32
He is at times feels like he's at a loss for words.
15:35
I mean, he explains it. He's been certainly more
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outright and truthful. Lately.
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About his viewings these last couple of weeks.
15:43
It's taken a long time. It's.
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Frustrating him to know him. He is incredibly frustrated
15:47
about all of this and he can understand it.
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I mean to not know. Oh, before a game, right?
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A big Monday. Was that two weeks ago?
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Yeah. You just.
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Nope. Sick.
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No, I'm out. I'm out.
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That was the Arizona game. I think so I.
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Think it was, yeah. And then and then he makes the
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three. I don't know what game it was
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that. Was the Texas Tech game that he
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hit the three hit? The three in terms Take Me Out.
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I'm ready. I.
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Mean come on, no T for me. Right.
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Come on. This guy is so talented.
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Yeah, but for you, I I wouldn't want him on my team.
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I really wouldn't. Because you can't trust him.
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And then what's he going to do? You know, I put the Big 12
16:21
tournament aside. I mean, that's not the goal.
16:24
The goal is to, you know, advance and March in the in the
16:27
big dance, right? But how can you how can you be
16:29
sure he's going to be there And when it comes right down to it
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and you need him to make a shot because I mean, this is this
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guy's that good. He can make a shot and you can
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count on him most times to do so when he's on the floor.
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But is he going to be on the floor?
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You just don't know. I think it's got to be
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frustrating to build self to no end, but it's going to be a hell
16:47
of a game tonight. I can't wait.
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So then we get Iowa State, Utah tomorrow and I got to believe
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the clones stayed out there, right?
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They did. They did.
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And then Iowa Wednesday. All right, let's go to the
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women's game. Ava Haydn was unbelievable
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yesterday. So she came out right away and
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little too excitable. She she was a little bit off
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early in the game, maybe trying to do too much.
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I think you saw that what we've I did.
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Because I wasn't back to the TV. Oh, yeah.
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So I was still in the morning. I could imagine that.
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And then she got ticked off a couple of times, Did she?
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And I think we're learning. I mean, this has happened now a
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couple of times that it jumped out.
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Oh, I think I've seen this before with Ava Haydn.
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You piss her off, don't do that good, because after that she was
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incredible and she's talking junk and telling the girl that
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she got into it a couple of times.
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You can't garbage. I mean, I think we're learning
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Ava Haydn. She's wired.
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She's the kind of player that you like.
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You like those people that talk junk.
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You like those people that aren't going to backed out and
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that was Dave definitely Ava Haydn, the high, low action that
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been waiting for really the last couple years.
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All right, if you're going to play Stalky out there with
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another big, you want to see that high, low action and Stalky
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passing the ball was about as good as she is.
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Was she that pressure defense against Michigan now, they still
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struggled, 18 turnovers in the game.
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Yeah, that's what Michigan does, though, much like Ohio State, a
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lot of pressure. They're going to turn you over
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and they turn it over too much. Still, you had Stalky.
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She's really good. I was shocked that it was senior
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day yesterday. That would totally cut snuck up
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on me. It came quiet.
18:20
Now they play Thursday at home against Illinois.
18:22
I think they just. Wanted to do.
18:24
It on the weekend, yeah, big opponent.
18:26
They've won I think 3 consecutive games now against
18:28
top ten teams on senior day. That had something to do with
18:31
the two and this Michigan team they didn't look at yesterday.
18:34
They look terrible. I was 6 in the country.
18:37
They were the only team in the Big 10 that has pushed UCLA.
18:39
They had UCLA close to beat, lost by three three weeks ago
18:45
against them. They almost beat UConn.
18:47
They lost by three to UConn. Jesus.
18:49
This is a Michigan team. I know.
18:50
If this was the first time you saw the Wolverines yesterday,
18:53
how's this team? The 6th best team in the
18:54
country. That also says about this
18:57
defensive. They they almost beat UConn.
19:00
UConn and UCLA. Where was the game is stores?
19:04
I don't remember where that one was.
19:06
I know the one against against UCLA was in Ann Arbor, but those
19:11
are a couple of eye opening ones.
19:12
And Iowa completely took them out and it was the defensive end
19:15
again. And that's a couple of times we
19:17
brought up this Iowa team and and the upside that they have,
19:19
it comes on the defensive end of the floor.
19:21
Why? Some of the past teams you go
19:23
back to early and Caitlin, even Mega Gustafson's teams, squads
19:26
like that and they just weren't good enough defensively.
19:29
This team is good enough defensively where they could
19:32
beat a really good team in the Sweet 16.
19:35
They're not going to beat UConn, they're not going to beat South
19:37
Carolina, Texas, any of those teams.
19:39
But with the right match up, I think they can get to an Elite
19:42
8. I think it is there for that
19:44
squad because of what they do on the defensive end.
19:46
Now. Hayden's still got to be great.
19:48
She has to stay out of foul trouble, all those different
19:50
things. But.
19:50
Somebody's got a poker A. Little bit, maybe do that a
19:53
little bit. Maybe you need to find an
19:55
agitator on your own bench. Can you find one of those?
19:58
And that pisses her off and gets her.
19:59
Position is it gonna help you 'cause?
20:01
She was so, so good. Yeah.
20:03
And also the Iowa State women I know they got got away against.
20:07
The fourth quarter, 31 to 15 outs scored.
20:09
And. They take a nine point lead into
20:11
the final quarter. Come on.
20:12
The gap between TCU and everybody else, I think in the
20:15
Big 12 is pretty significant. That would have been a huge role
20:18
in the Adam. The thing that's so weird is the
20:20
Big 12 is down in women's basketball.
20:22
It's certainly what we're used to because you look at the
20:24
bracket projections and there's not nearly as many.
20:26
There is on the one side with bracket matrix.
20:29
But the Charlie Creans of the world, Iowa State's still
20:31
sitting in the 8-9 line. You kind of look at, you say,
20:33
all right, they had a big losing streak, but when they have had
20:36
obviously their full complement players, this is a top minimum,
20:39
top 15 team. So Abby Brown's been back for
20:41
what, two games now? Yeah, the.
20:44
Problem though, 4 Iowa State is the rest of the league because
20:48
the Big 12 is so down there just metrically isn't opportunities
20:52
for them to take a big step forward.
20:54
Bart Torvik, which is Ken Pomeroy, they're 31st in the
20:57
country at 21 and seven and that is the knock against them.
21:01
Resume wise, it's a game. Same kind of vote for them when
21:04
you go through and look at their resume.
21:06
I'm bringing up Iowa State right now.
21:07
Let's go to net in women's basketball.
21:11
Iowa State is 31st there also on top of it.
21:14
You dig a little bit deeper into it and you look through the
21:17
resume that the Cyclone women have.
21:19
They are just two and four in quad one games, the win against
21:24
Iowa, The other victory they have is that road win against
21:26
Texas Tech. But just two quad 1 victories.
21:29
That's not going to get you very high at the NCAA tournament
21:32
because the Big 12 is down this year.
21:35
One of those side Hawk games seemed like a long time ago.
21:38
They do. My gosh, kind of was.
21:40
All right. Good stuff underway on a Monday.
21:43
Joe Donald's going to join us. Talk a little puck with Joe.
21:45
Do you remember who we interviewed the first day he was
21:49
a pro? Matt Boldy.
21:51
Matt Boldy, I do about that. That's always the name that I'm
21:53
like, hey, I know that name. We the very first day he signed
21:57
his pro contract Trent and I had him what a goal that to open up
21:59
the a gold medal game yesterday they split taves in my car right
22:03
down the middle and dipsy doos and in on Bennington and back of
22:07
the net one nothing USA and away we go is underway.
22:10
Yeah Matt Bolton good stuff. Of course Joe calls all of his
22:13
games Quinn Hughes as well. We'll talk puck with Joe
22:15
O'Donnell and what if anything what does this mean?
22:18
What did that win do yesterday for US hockey, which was Arrows
22:21
already pointing up? In terms of the national team
22:25
board hockey in general, hockey in.
22:27
General. It helps.
22:29
Now you have to take this momentum and you need to take
22:32
this momentum and you can't have a finals that has Florida,
22:36
Edmonton. Yeah, please.
22:37
No, no. More We You need big brands, you
22:41
need somebody to take a step forward.
22:45
But do you? Think people will go out of
22:46
their way to find Jack Hughes who scored the golden goal, or
22:51
just Connor? I mean, it's, it's too bad.
22:53
Well, it's not. I'm glad he's a Jet on one hand.
22:56
On the other hand, it's too bad Hellebuck doesn't play in an
22:58
American market, right? Because I think maybe you would,
23:02
you would search his team out more.
23:04
And I mean, say, play for Nashville or whatever.
23:06
Jack Hughes, I don't know. Does he play for Vegas?
23:09
No on New Jersey, NJ. See, I don't even know I'm a
23:12
sport sports fan. I'll get into it in April.
23:15
In fact, outside of Hella Buck, I would struggle probably naming
23:20
90% of the roster who they play with as a sports guy, that's a
23:25
problem. Sure.
23:26
So now it's up to the NHL. You need to market this
23:28
correctly and you need the ESPN's help, but you need to
23:32
take this momentum and push forward because it was there and
23:35
we'll see the TV ratings, which I'm sure you.
23:37
Know I'm I'm anxious to see them because sports bars were.
23:41
Packed. I loved the fact that, you know,
23:44
bars were opening up at six AM, 5:00 AM in anticipation of, you
23:48
know, people showing up to watch the game, you know, with, with
23:52
fellow fans. I don't think it'll come close
23:56
to what was it, 2010 when it was in Vancouver middle of the
24:00
afternoon, which also went overtime.
24:02
That was Crosby's golden goal. But I think it's going to do a
24:05
really good number. I think it's going to do a
24:07
really good number. You're looking for some original
24:09
6 so they got the Red Wings that are in.
24:12
Yeah, Dylan Larkin, the place for the American the.
24:15
Bruins. I mean, you kind of need those
24:17
name brands too. You need them to make a run, at
24:19
least get into the second round, you know, those kind of things.
24:21
That would mean upsets for both of them, at least in terms of
24:24
seating right now. Rangers, Blackhawks are out.
24:27
Yeah, you can't get those ones, but probably the Avalanche
24:30
rooting for them. That is at least a known.
24:33
That's I think what also hockey needs.
24:34
You can't have the Vegas's and the Seattle's and the Edmonton's
24:38
of the world. You need to have Dame brands
24:40
that are going to help push it. And when you get that and you
24:43
start to get the casuals, we're trickling in and how many people
24:46
are watching hockey for the first time maybe in years to get
24:49
them back in. But it's not going to be easy
24:51
because you look through and you kind of look at the standings.
24:53
Oh look, Carolina's good again. Yeah, So when when hockey
24:57
resumes on Wednesday night, I don't think it's going to do.
25:00
I don't think people are going to go out of their way to watch
25:02
it. I think the playoffs maybe, and
25:05
Mike Palm texted me yesterday, You know what he text said
25:07
yesterday? I know how I don't know how I'm
25:10
going to watch hockey on Wednesday and Thursday night.
25:12
It's going to be such a let down.
25:13
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. There's such high level, Such
25:17
high level. Take a break.
25:17
We'll come back. We'll be joined by more by Joe
25:20
O'Donnell Moore, Hockey conversation hour number two,
25:22
Bill Seals covers Iowa State. John Bowenkamp was a Carver for
25:26
the women. We'll do women and men with John
25:29
Trent's plays of the day. How are your plays been doing,
25:31
by the way? You on a roll?
25:32
Yeah. Good day yesterday.
25:33
Good day yesterday. Yeah, we faded Iowa three
25:35
different times, so we went two and one on that.
25:37
That worked out well on the wrestling mat.
25:39
By the way, what's going on wrestling wise?
25:41
It looked awful. Yes.
25:42
Is Beth Katz got a really difficult decision to make?
25:44
Is that coming? I think very simply comes down
25:47
to the money people, the money people that invest in wrestling
25:49
over there. There is one high level donor
25:51
that spends a lot and their return on investment has not
25:54
been very good, but a couple with.
25:56
Are they starting to get vocal? I haven't seen anything yet.
25:59
Okay, but I think that's the simplest answer.
26:01
I haven't heard anything. I haven't seen anything.
26:03
It is a non revenue sport. Sure even this Carver brings
26:06
people in. We know just like women's
26:08
basketball, even though sell out crowds, women's basketball under
26:11
Caitlin Clark still lost money. Same thing with wrestling, as
26:14
good as it is supported, it is still a losing proposition
26:17
overall. If that big money donor though
26:19
says time for a change then he make a change.
26:22
The biggest thing yesterday, he's a wrestling Oklahoma State.
26:25
They had taken a step back under John Smith and what weren't the
26:27
same program that they were, What do they do?
26:30
They went out and hired a young guy and Steven David Taylor
26:34
after his success as a wrestler at Penn State, he has come in
26:37
there completely reinvigorated that program top to bottom.
26:41
They're young, they're fun, they're doing things
26:43
differently. And the guy the state wrestling
26:45
tournament this week, Drayshon. Which is where I'm going next
26:47
cuz I would be remiss if we didn't talk a little bit about
26:50
that. I know how much you love it,
26:51
especially it's on Saturday night.
26:53
How was? Was it?
26:54
It was incredible. How were the crowds?
26:56
Great. We had two, four timers.
26:58
And normally Saturday night, by the time we get towards the end,
27:00
a lot of people trickled out. Yeah, people make their way to
27:03
the exits, get to the bar, get back to the hotel.
27:05
It's a long week. And so you see what did.
27:08
The Blizzard come through Thursday night into Friday.
27:10
When was it? Wednesday into Thursday, I think
27:13
it was it. Was awful.
27:14
What did that do to the tournament?
27:15
It hurt, yeah. There were a lot of people that
27:17
were staying away, I think because of that.
27:18
And certainly attendance both Wednesday and Thursday suffered.
27:21
Because all 99 counties make their way to poke, right?
27:23
That's right. Well, 98.
27:25
That's the way that it happens every single year.
27:28
But Drayshon Ross, he's going to Oklahoma State and to see the
27:31
kind of story that he put on. But we got 24 timers, including
27:34
one for Mos Age. Yes, absolutely.
27:37
Green Devil, another four timer, the second in Osage history,
27:40
joining Mark Schwab, Doug Schwab's oldest brother.
27:43
He is a four timer. So we got Fox, we got Ross that
27:46
are 4 timers. And it's so cool because, you
27:49
know, I'm kind of old school as it pertains to being on the
27:53
radio, play by play, no cheering in the press box, those kind of
27:58
things, right? Yet at state wrestling when you
28:00
get a four timer and it happens all across.
28:02
Or Nebraska football. But go ahead.
28:04
They're different over there is everybody comes to their feet
28:08
and gives a round of applause, as they did first for Fox.
28:11
But even the guys in the radio row, and we got 3 rows of us
28:13
there and there are 30-40 different radio stations all set
28:17
up and everybody stands up. That's awesome.
28:20
Stands up. It's not cheap to do.
28:22
No, no, absolutely not Those people that are able to do it.
28:26
One thing talking to a lot of different radio people is it's
28:29
different than the old days where you just covered your
28:30
school kind of covering all the surrounding schools and and
28:33
doing that. But to see everybody stand up
28:36
and celebrate those four time state champions, awesome every
28:38
single time, those goosebumps moments, the grand March, all
28:41
the place winners coming through.
28:43
That's always cool every single year.
28:44
So another great mid state tournament run away for Don
28:47
Bosco and 1A run away for Southeast folk and we got a tie
28:50
in Class 2A, a tie for the team title there.
28:53
I came down to the end. So really fun tournament as it
28:56
always is. Great work out of those guys and
28:58
just commend every single one of those guys getting there on the
29:01
mat. It is not an easy sport.
29:02
I. Bet not.
29:03
No, I never did it, but growing up, don't know anything about
29:06
it, but certainly moves the needle here.
29:08
No doubt about it. All right, 1230.
29:10
Joe Donald is next. Miller and Condon, glad you're
29:12
with us as we talk sports with you.
29:15
We'll do so until 2:00 on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
29:34
I'm Millery Congon, welcome back.
29:36
Iowa Sports Radio Network, wherever listening in the state
29:39
of Iowa. We are grateful that you are.
29:41
Trent and I take you until 2:00 off the bench, 2 to 5.
29:44
Let's continue the puck conversation.
29:46
Our friend Joe O'Donnell, the voice of the Minnesota Wild, he
29:50
joins us to recap which was a phenomenal tournament, both
29:53
women and the men, overtime games both knocking off their
29:56
archrival Team Canada to win the gold medal.
29:59
And Joe joins us. Joe Trenton, Ken, thanks for
30:01
coming on. Joe O'Donnell, what a game.
30:03
Always a pleasure guys. Kenny, how are you today?
30:08
It left the mark. I'm not going to lie.
30:10
It did leave a mark, Joe. It was a hell of a game though.
30:12
And you know what? And I think it will.
30:14
I think that the trickle down effect will bring more eyeballs
30:18
to the sport that you make your living out.
30:20
And I absolutely love with a passion and I know you do as
30:23
well. But I think it's good for the
30:25
game, Joe. I really do, as much as that
30:26
pains me to say, because I would much rather hurdle Canada than
30:29
smart Star Spangled Banner, no offense.
30:32
Yeah, I'm with you. I knew that would be a little
30:36
painful for you and a lot of your fellow Canadians, but great
30:41
for the game. I was really hoping that it
30:44
would be close and a tight game in the third period because, you
30:49
know, with the start time, think about people on the West Coast
30:52
that, you know, there are a lot of hockey fans all across the US
30:55
as this game has grown specifically in the last 30 or
30:59
so years. But, you know, some of those
31:01
people weren't getting up probably at 5:00 AM to watch
31:04
puck drop, but by the third period, they're probably having
31:06
their coffee, getting their act together.
31:08
And hopefully they, too did. So.
31:09
I haven't seen the ratings yet. I'm sure they were outstanding.
31:12
I can just tell you that being around Minnesota, our kids had a
31:16
ton of youth hockey over the weekend.
31:18
I was at a rink in Eden Prairie. We were watching overtime on my
31:22
phone with a couple of the dads as our kids skating around out
31:26
there. And then, you know, a bunch of
31:28
youth kids start running through Channing US after Jack Hughes
31:32
scored some borderline lunatic dad had a flag.
31:36
He was running around the arena and and I saw videos online last
31:41
night of, you know, similar situations that youth hockey
31:43
rinks all across the country. So great for the game, great for
31:46
these kids. I thought Mike Tirico spend off
31:48
on NBC was was poignant, was spot on just as far as, you
31:53
know, following your dreams. And for a lot of these kids
31:56
watching what what we witnessed as adults, special time,
32:01
certainly probably similar to what, you know, my dad and that
32:04
generation went through in 1980 when, you know, I was just born
32:07
essentially. So kind of cool for all of that
32:11
and for the players. I mean, a lot of those guys,
32:14
Matthews, Clayton Keller's, the the Hughes boys, the Kachuck
32:18
boys, I mean, you name it, they were, you know, when when they
32:21
grew up playing hockey, they were sort of like the next
32:24
generation of getting USA Hockey on the map.
32:27
You think about the Saint Louis hockey team with guys like Luke
32:31
Conan and Clayton Keller. You know, so many of these kids,
32:35
the Kachuck boys, like, you know, coming out of the same
32:38
program is remarkable. The way the game has grown.
32:40
Austin Matthews growing up playing in Arizona.
32:42
I mean there's just so many cool stories from non traditional US
32:46
hockey markets from decades ago that have their fingerprints all
32:50
over this thing. Big conversation afterwards and
32:53
not just for the men but also on the women.
32:55
You go to overtime and it's cut down to three by three.
32:58
I mean, is there a way? And certainly when we maybe get
33:00
into the knockout round, even making a four on 4 or 10 minutes
33:04
of full and then you switch over that way.
33:07
What do you think is the best path here?
33:08
Because a lot of hockey purists, yes, I like it because you know
33:12
you're going to get a score pretty quick, usually when it
33:14
goes to three on three. What do you think would be the
33:16
best course for just in general for hockey when we get to this
33:19
medal round? You know, Tran, I, I'm kind of
33:22
traditional here. Like to me, if you just if you
33:25
don't want anybody upset, you just played five on five like
33:28
you do the Stanley Cup playoffs and at some point somebody's
33:30
scoring a goal. I'm not, I'm not sure when they
33:34
put three on three into the Olympic setting.
33:37
Again, we only get it every four years.
33:39
And with COVID in there at one point, things were kind of wacky
33:42
as far as the actual years. And NHL players haven't always
33:45
participated. So I haven't done my research on
33:48
when that change was made, if it was just this Olympics or prior.
33:52
But you know, I could see why people are going to be upset.
33:55
You know, no matter who won or lost either of the men's or
33:57
women's game, you know, it's the first thing you're going to go
34:00
to. Wow.
34:00
It was three on three. You know, just play 5 on five,
34:04
put 20 minutes on the board, resurface the ice after that and
34:06
play Stanley Cup Playoffs and play till somebody'd legs fall
34:09
off and we got a winner. Indeed, Speaking of a winner,
34:12
Matt Boldy, a winner, gold medal around his neck.
34:15
Also Quinn Hughes. You call both of their games as
34:17
they're both outstanding players for the Minnesota Wild Boldies
34:21
goal. I mean, we we both been waiting
34:23
for it, right, Joe? We know that this kids been
34:25
special since the time he strapped them on, you know, here
34:29
in Iowa. And then once he made his way to
34:31
the big club, what a goal, what a beauty for him to split Taves
34:34
in Mccarran, then Deke Bennington and find the back of
34:38
the net. What a player he is and you see
34:39
him every night. Yeah, he's special.
34:41
And I know I've told you this, Kenny, like, you know, I don't
34:44
this is not a knock on Karil Caprice off, but you could say
34:47
Matt Boldy is the wild best player.
34:49
He is a superstar. And I think I've told you guys
34:53
this as well, like just talking with John Heinz the last couple
34:55
years, the Wild head coach who was on the Team USA bench for
35:00
the Olympic gold medal in the World Championships the last
35:02
couple years, he has said that experiences like the Four
35:06
Nations last year and the World Championships in the summer have
35:09
helped a player like Matt Boldy immensely.
35:12
It's allowed him to see how the other star players do it, how
35:15
they prepare, what they say, their leadership, how hard they
35:18
work, what they bring to the table.
35:20
And it's given him an immense confidence in his game and
35:22
really allowed his game to flourish for Minnesota on a
35:25
nightly basis. So I think that's one of the
35:27
kind of the things that I would look at, you know, no matter who
35:30
your team is, if they had an Olympian, what does it do for
35:33
them? Yeah, they might be a little
35:35
tired when the NHL season resumes.
35:37
But that experience for all these players, no matter where
35:39
they are in their career, just listen to them talk.
35:41
Guys with Stanley Cups and gold medals still saying what a great
35:44
experience it was for some guys, their first experience.
35:48
I just think you can't put enough value on what an
35:50
experience like that the Olympics does for these guys
35:53
from their own confidence, whether they had a huge role in
35:55
the team or they were healthy scratches, being around, you
35:59
know, the the upper, the 1% right of of your profession for
36:04
that much time. And seeing, you know, getting to
36:06
know the guys, but also seeing how they work and how good they
36:08
are, how detailed they are. I think it'll help a lot of
36:11
these players as their careers move along.
36:13
Well, we know with Boldy there, yeah, you might be a little bit
36:16
tired, but one guy that shouldn't be and should be fresh
36:18
to go is going to be Karil Caprisov in the second-half of
36:21
the year. We know what a talented score he
36:24
is and what he can mean. What do you look at the back
36:26
half? This was a red hot wild team
36:28
going into the Olympic break. Colorado, five points in front
36:32
of them right now for that top spot.
36:33
Getting home ice in the first round.
36:35
How important that will be against the stars and
36:37
potentially in the second round. Lot of good vibes it feels like
36:40
up in Minnesota. How good of a chance do you feel
36:42
they have to make a run? I think it's your best chance
36:46
you've had in a while. Last year trend, you could say
36:49
that they should have won that playoff series against Vegas.
36:51
I think the players in the locker room felt that, but they
36:53
didn't get it done. You can say whatever you want,
36:55
you didn't get it done, you didn't get it done.
36:57
So this feels different. The addition of Quinn Hughes,
37:00
we've talked about it last time was all with you guys.
37:02
Like the special player, he's going to make this team a
37:06
different team come Stanley Cup playoff time.
37:08
They get 24 games to go. I don't think catching the ABS
37:12
is super realistic as Colorado has a few games in hand and they
37:16
just, you know, be hard pressed for them to finish with less
37:19
than 110 or 12 points. You know, I don't know that the
37:22
Wild could get to that threshold.
37:23
But the biggest thing for Minnesota is going to be their
37:26
health, How they're playing down the stretch Is the goal standing
37:29
dialed in and then how much, you know, what will they do with
37:32
trade deadline looming? Can they make another move?
37:34
Will they bring in a center Iceman like so many people
37:36
expect to boost their top 6 to give them one more score, give
37:40
them more depth to make them a harder team and a best of seven?
37:43
I'm excited for it. It's going to be a great run,
37:47
kind of a Sprint to the finish line here.
37:49
I think Minnesota is going to finish strong.
37:51
I really do believe that. The guys that have been back and
37:53
skating now the last handful of days are getting really pushed
37:56
hard by associate coach Jack Capuano, again with John Heinz,
37:59
the head coach over in Milan. Cappy's been running practices
38:03
and he's been working hard. The players have said it, but he
38:07
said it. He's kind of an old school guy.
38:09
He's a Rhode Island guy. Like he's not going to, he's no
38:11
nonsense, right? He's an old school coach and I
38:14
think he's got this team in the days he was running things,
38:18
getting back into great condition and that that can only
38:20
bode well for guys who were a little banged up, guys that
38:24
maybe went to Cabo, guys went to Cancun.
38:26
You come back, sweat it out and get back into good game
38:29
condition and be ready to go because then you get 24 games
38:33
from basically, you know, essentially March 1st and on.
38:36
It's going to be 1 heck of a push.
38:38
And if I think it's the wild have good health, I really
38:40
expect them to to finally to punch their take and get out of
38:44
the first round this year. I'm.
38:46
With you, coaches don't get medals, Joe.
38:49
Is that true? Do you know that?
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I don't know that Kenny and actually really.
38:54
That's crazy, right? That is crazy.
38:57
And well, because I, you know, so I mentioned John Hines
39:01
obviously is on the Team USA staff.
39:02
We know Bill Guerin put the team together.
39:04
Chris Kelleher was director of player personnel.
39:06
He's a Wild assistant GM and the team orthopedist doctor.
39:11
Joel Boyd is a Minnesota Wild team doctor and two of the
39:14
athletic training members and John Worley and Travis Green are
39:17
part of Minnesota staff of the Wild.
39:19
I thought all those guys were coming back with medals.
39:22
I hope they do, but that's news to me.
39:25
If they don't, it kind of surprising.
39:27
And you would think like, I don't know, this might sound a
39:29
little off putting, but like what?
39:30
What's the cost of one more gold medal?
39:33
Yeah, I just got a text. They do not, they do not get
39:36
medals. I just got a text from a bloody
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of mine. That sounds crazy to me.
39:40
Hey, you know, you mentioned Bill Guerin.
39:41
We'll end it on this. Let's Tresco one more man.
39:44
The pressure he was on to put this roster together and some
39:47
incredibly difficult decisions as Canada did.
39:50
And I'm sure there were other countries that had difficult
39:52
decisions as to the the the make up of the roster.
39:56
This has to that had to be a huge, huge relief for Guerin,
39:59
not only to win the overtime game to get to this point, but
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then to beat their rival yesterday and capture the gold.
40:06
Right. Could you imagine if they got
40:07
knocked out in the quarters? The amount of scrutiny,
40:10
everything's validated now for Team USA, right from their
40:13
process to how they did it. And you're right, there are
40:16
snubs. It's like every All Star game
40:18
and end of the year award ceremony when it comes to
40:20
picking these elite teams. Like there are going to be guys
40:22
left off just the way it is. Certain fan bases, players,
40:26
organizations, you're going to feel that way.
40:28
Could Jason Robertson have made a difference for Team USA?
40:30
I'm sure you know, but they got it done.
40:33
They got the gold medal and that's really, you know, that
40:36
was their goal. So you can still second guess if
40:40
you'd like, but they got it done.
40:41
They punched the they punched their way to the to the finish
40:44
line there. It wasn't always pretty, but I
40:47
think again, Bill Guerin talked about they don't want the best
40:49
players necessarily. They want the right players.
40:52
You know, they felt the guys on that fourth line, the JT
40:55
Miller's, the Vincent Trochecks of the world, if those were the
40:57
guys that do the little things or not complain about 12 minutes
41:01
or 9 minutes of ice time, those are the guys you want in those
41:03
settings. And the five on three penalty
41:05
there was those guys on the ice, just unbelievable.
41:08
Great stuff. Joe O'Donnell, appreciate you
41:10
doing this as always. I think you're in for a busy
41:14
first couple of months. May hopefully into June will be
41:17
better for business for us if the wild can make a long, long
41:20
run in this thing. We shall see if they do.
41:23
Great stuff, Joe, Thanks for jumping on.
41:24
Appreciate it. And we'll talk to you down the
41:26
road. OK, buddy.
41:27
Yeah. Thanks guys.
41:28
Yeah, good to talk to you, Joe O'Donnell, voice of the
41:31
Minnesota Wild, formerly the voice of the Iowa Wild.
41:34
So we got to know Joe. And now living his dream,
41:37
calling NHL games. They return on Thursday night in
41:41
Colorado. Take on the LATCH.
41:43
Our breaks are shorter. Yes, yes, that's good.
41:46
Yes, we're through football season.
41:47
So back to the condensed versions of the.
41:50
Commercial. That's good because I mean, my
41:51
God, there was like 7 minutes sometimes.
41:53
That's ridiculous. I'll take a time.
41:55
I'll come back after this short break.
41:57
Miller and Condon talking sports with you.
41:59
Glad you're with us on Des Moines sports station One O 6.3
42:02
KXNO. I'm Miller and Condon.
42:14
Welcome back. Iowa Sports Radio Network.
42:16
Scott Dockerman usually joins us on Monday.
42:19
He'll join us middle of the week sometime.
42:21
Can't believe the Combine's here.
42:22
Already. Isn't it crazy?
42:23
You take two weeks off, NFL gives you 2 weeks off and then
42:27
bang right back into the into the news.
42:31
Were you surprised Aaron Graves wasn't invited?
42:33
Yeah, that's shocking to me. Yes, obviously he'll have the
42:37
opportunity here in front of scouts, but yeah, just that
42:39
chance to get in front of all of them in one place, I was
42:43
surprised. And he's another guy.
42:45
I mean, we've heard about the story.
42:46
He got his a A before he was even out of high school.
42:49
There's a guy that is high level.
42:51
He would be great. Just talking to the scouts, you
42:53
know, when they're going out of the interviews, it probably
42:55
would have helped him even more and they'll get that
42:57
opportunity. But you think it was scouts?
42:59
It's not like they just go to Iowa City and that's it, right?
43:01
How many stops are they making throughout the course of those
43:03
weeks when they're going to? They're in Iowa City in the
43:05
morning and it aims in the afternoon and then.
43:07
And there's not the same time to meet with those scouts, to meet
43:09
with those front office people and the people that'll be there.
43:11
So that was a little bit of a blow.
43:14
I know DACA has talked a little bit about that.
43:16
So we'll get his perspective and a whole lot more from the
43:18
combine. Later.
43:18
Yeah, I look forward to that. As we said, Doc will join us.
43:22
He's doing something to Purdue early in the week as well.
43:24
Speaking of that, Ronthale Moore passed away.
43:26
Wow. Yeah.
43:26
Took his own life, apparently. Jesus, what a player he was in
43:30
college. Good.
43:31
God, Swiss Army knife. Oh my God.
43:33
So many different things. Yeah, that Ohio State game.
43:35
What, that clip where they got him surrounded and somehow
43:39
escapes? Yeah.
43:40
He was such a hell of a player and didn't play this year,
43:42
right? He was hurt with the Vikings.
43:44
I think he was, anyways, yeah. Did you, did you get much run on
43:49
Monday after the Super Bowl? I mean, I know it's the Super
43:51
Bowl, so you're going to kill some segments with it, but that
43:54
had to be tough. It was such a boring game.
43:56
Yeah. I, I mean talked about it, but
43:58
it was, yeah, an opening segment.
44:01
I don't even think that was a full opening segment.
44:03
Yeah, normally it would have been in into the, you know, the
44:05
segment #2 and found a way to reintroduce it in the second
44:09
hour. But it was.
44:10
Just so bad it was. It was not an entertaining game.
44:13
Didn't get a touchdown to the fourth quarter.
44:14
No, do I did pose this question, this was kind of the one thought
44:19
exercise that I did have. We saw the Seattle team and
44:22
outside when they played the Rams, nobody could move the ball
44:24
against him. Our defense is coming back.
44:27
Eagles 2 years ago, Seahawks this year, and very simply, I
44:33
have a front four. I have a front four.
44:34
They can get to the quarterback and that can cure a lot of ills
44:38
because that Eagles team, we've seen, there's some warts there.
44:40
We certainly saw them show up this season.
44:42
Seattle, we've seen them at different times this year.
44:45
But if you can very simply rush the passer, we saw Denver.
44:50
Yes, absolutely. We've seen the change in the
44:52
evolution of football and all the passing offense and maybe
44:55
we're finally starting to. I like that the other way.
44:57
Yeah, that's a good point. I'm all for it.
44:59
I mean, I love defensive matchups.
45:01
I really do. Seattle was just much, so much
45:04
the better team. How about Tirico's week too,
45:06
right? Signs off the air, gets on an
45:08
airplane and off he goes to Milan.
45:10
And he was really good. He was really good.
45:12
He's such a pro. Wonder what they're paying him.
45:14
He's got to be amongst the highest paid broadcasters,
45:18
right? I mean, who else would be in
45:20
that genre? Nance.
45:21
Not anymore. Yet like Van Pelt is well
45:23
compensated I'm sure, but that again guest debating maybe in
45:27
the five to $7,000,000 range something like that him 1520
45:33
because both did buck get 15,000,000 a year.
45:36
Not sure what he got I. Think for whatever reason, that
45:38
number is kind of sticking in my mind.
45:40
I was in that $15 million range. They're getting a whole lot more
45:43
than ESPN is for Buck with Tarico.
45:46
And now you throw basketball on top of it in the Olympics and he
45:49
is so talented. He really is so good.
45:51
Yeah, Smooth, very smooth. Had that little, not his fondest
45:56
moment back in the early 90s. We got in trouble at ESPN, but
46:01
he's resurrected his career, no doubt about that.
46:04
All right, our number two Bill Seals will kick things off.
46:07
We'll get back into Iowa State as they fall to BYU.
46:10
Stay out in Utah and play Utah tomorrow night.
46:13
They'll be a huge favorite, right?
46:15
Yeah, that's a favorite. Double digits, I'm almost
46:17
positive I saw when I was looking earlier in the week.
46:19
They'll be maybe 14 if memory serves as what it is.
46:22
Huge favorite. Yeah.
46:23
So men's and women. For the youths.
46:26
Oh, I forgot about the FS. We'll see him tomorrow night at
46:30
8:00 and that's an FS1 game. I think hour 2 is next.
46:33
Miller and Condon back with more after this.