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- 0:20Mosher Mail. Bag monday our mail bag Questions For jeff.
- 0:24BOCHER today a lot of them center AROUND The, NFC
- 0:28east a lot of Commanders and.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Dallas.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Stuff today we took a lot of questions on that
- 0:33throughout the last couple of days to get you ready
- 0:36For A mosher monday. Mail bag here on The Sports
- 0:39Best jeff Bocher from phillyvoice dot com And the Inside
- 0:42the birds podcast joins us right now for football. At four,
- 0:45what's up, mosh.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Right it's pretty hot. Out there it.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Is hot you should be at. The beach what are?
- 0:51YOU doing i think.
- 0:52Speaker 3: It's too hot to be at. THE beach i want
- 0:55to be in a ice. Cold bathtub.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Tell you what we are Now inside one month to.
- 1:02Training camp yesterday was one month officially To the eagles
- 1:06reporting that. Training camp today we are inside a Month
- 1:09to eagles, training camp and obviously The, the eagles they're
- 1:14gonna be around the next couple of weeks here in
- 1:16terms of they've Got The jason kelsey event, Down here
- 1:19you've got we're Gonna Have connor barwin on. The show
- 1:21he's got an event coming up, as well so you'll
- 1:23still hear A little eagle stuff here and there. Popping
- 1:26in but let's get some Of the Mosher mail bag
- 1:28questions For a Monday mail. BAG edition a lot of
- 1:30these are kind of centered AROUND, the nfse some other ones.
- 1:33In there we got some good questions for you. This
- 1:35week so let's see what we Got For jeff mosher
- 1:38here On The Sports. Bash, live now you guys Have
- 1:40a Inside the birds podcast series where you guys are
- 1:43starting to break DOWN the. Nfc opponents that's why we
- 1:46kind of tried they had questions based ON The.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Nfc, east yeah and we do.
- 1:50Speaker 4: It differently, you know We'd Bring greg cosel in and
- 1:52we don't just opine on who we think is good
- 1:55or now we give We get greg's breakdowns on newcome,
- 2:00draft picks, scheme Changes Like brian schottenheimer now.
- 2:04Speaker 3: Taking over For. The cowboys that was today's In.
- 2:06Speaker 4: The cowboys and then we, you Know between ADAM, and
- 2:09i with our intel on how the teams think about,
- 2:11these things we combine.
- 2:12Speaker 3: That all it's really.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Comprehensive, stuff well let's make sure everybody out there listening
- 2:17subscribe To the Inside the Birds podcast football. At four
- 2:19Let's go tom And. Mar mora you're up, First, today
- 2:22tom what matchup concerns? You more jeff Moschert the cowboys
- 2:26offense Versus the eagles defense Or the commander's offense Against the.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Eagles, defense yeah that's a.
- 2:33Speaker 4: GOOD question i think, You Know dak prescott's healthy history
- 2:36Against the eagles is you look at it and, you,
- 2:39say man when, he's healthy he's good. To GO but
- 2:43i would say in, THIS regard i think It's the
- 2:46Commanders Because jayden daniels Showed the eagles something that, you
- 2:51know you don't see around the league, very much which
- 2:53is a guy who can throw and move and just,
- 2:56you know will a game by himself.
- 2:58Speaker 3: To win that is a very difficult to do in.
- 3:00Speaker 4: This league We've Seen jalen hurts do that at times
- 3:02earlier in his career With, the eagles, you know twenty
- 3:05Their First, super bowl Not For, super bowl their first.
- 3:09Playoff Season For, JALEN hurts i think two down to, twenty,
- 3:12one right he had to win some games with his
- 3:14legs there and.
- 3:15Speaker 3: His arm, But Yeah jayden daniels is.
- 3:18Speaker 4: He's scary so even though they don't have great, playmakers
- 3:21either but Neither, does dallas they have they have a more,
- 3:25formidable TEAM so i would worry more about.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Their, offense yeah the, you know both teams added weapons in,
- 3:31the offseason right most you got both teams adding new wide,
- 3:35receiver targets which obviously makes things a little bit more
- 3:38challenging For the. Eagles defense which is an interesting question
- 3:42that came in Here from let's go to this One
- 3:44from Will. In pleasantville Will in, pleasantville says which situation
- 3:52Will the eagles? Use Quinyat, we actually, he says let's
- 3:55get this Question from Will. And, PLEASANVILLE first i kind
- 3:57of skipped over the one that had to do with that.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Last One but.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Will, And, pleasanville Well the Eagles Use quinyon Mitchell and
- 4:02cooper de gene any differently in twenty, twenty five now
- 4:05that they have more experience in.
- 4:06Speaker 4: The defense that's actually a, great question especially based on
- 4:10some of the things that we've seen. In OTAs, for
- 4:13example We've Seen quinnon mitchell playing both left corner and,
- 4:18right cornerback whereas last year he was the. Right cornerback
- 4:22so maybe there's a chance he's playing the. Left side
- 4:25MAYBE and i doubt, this right BUT when i see
- 4:28a guy, cross train it enters. My mind maybe there
- 4:30will be some Opportunities Where quinnon mitchell plays and trails
- 4:35the number one wide receiver of the. Other team that's
- 4:38that's NOT something i imagine happening a lot Because the
- 4:41eagles play so, much zone but you can still do
- 4:44that and play zone within those concepts and move the
- 4:47the cornerback around in.
- 4:49Speaker 3: Your zone so that's that's the.
- 4:51Speaker 4: Potential there and then, YOU know i THINK quin I
- 4:55think Cooper de gene.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Will Definitely use it's not that it'll be used. That
- 4:58differently i'll just be. Used more he's gonna play the.
- 5:01Speaker 4: Nickel position vic made that, very clear and that's what,
- 5:04they're in, you know anywhere between seventy five and eighty.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Two percent of.
- 5:08Speaker 4: The time but it also sounds like you might start
- 5:11at either a cornerback in base or safety.
- 5:13Speaker 3: In base so that remains to Be seen Calvin.
- 5:17Speaker 1: And northfield you're. Up next Can the eagles dominate the?
- 5:19Division again they went five to one. Last season they
- 5:24beat everybody twice Except for washington they. Beat once and
- 5:27you know that's what Made the eagles And The andy
- 5:29reid era. So tough they just constantly beat up ON The.
- 5:32Nfc east but IT'S The nfc EAST of fata company
- 5:35like it was, back then because those teams IN The
- 5:37nfc east During the andy days were not.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Very, Good, right no.
- 5:41Speaker 4: They can't and it's doesn't mean anything worse About. The
- 5:44eagles it just means THAT The nfc east is tougher
- 5:47than you. Might think they went five to one. Last
- 5:50Year Obviously dak prescal. Was hurt Obviously the giants were
- 5:53two wins that were fairly simple for them.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Last year But this GIANTS defense i think is really.
- 6:01Really good with the.
- 6:02Speaker 4: Off, season editions, they made the Draft Of, abdul carter
- 6:05they had good pass rushers to Begin With, Dexter Lawrence.
- 6:08Speaker 3: BRIAN burns i.
- 6:09Speaker 4: Think that they as long as, they're healthy they will
- 6:11be better and if their offense gives them. A BREAK
- 6:14and i do think the offense is, still bad but
- 6:17not horribly dysfunctionally bad as.
- 6:20Speaker 3: It was They Will.
- 6:23Speaker 4: Andrew thomas being healthy left tackle is a big deal
- 6:25for them him coming back because they weren't terrible upfront
- 6:28on the offensive line when, he plays and they've made
- 6:31some additions to their.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Offensive line they have.
- 6:34Speaker 4: Leak nighbors now They're Expecting theo johnson to be a
- 6:37better player in year two at. Tight End so i'm
- 6:40not sitting here telling You the giants are going to,
- 6:42be CONTENDERS but i do expect them to be better
- 6:45than a three. Win TEAM so i think If the
- 6:47eagles go five, and one that would, be really really
- 6:50tough in.
- 6:50Speaker 3: This, division now.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Good breakdown let's go to how about this one most
- 6:56your Mail bag Monday from Kevin And. Kate may what's
- 6:59the one air Area where dallas still has a personnel
- 7:02edge Over the eagles that could close, the gap maybe cause,
- 7:06a problem you know when they, Play.
- 7:09Speaker 3: Man I'm not i'm not really sure that. They do.
- 7:13Speaker 4: So that's that's and you don't have to, you know
- 7:16like if if we talked About the eagles Versus the
- 7:20commanders last year and said where's? The edge you might
- 7:23Give the eagles every, single edge, you know especially if
- 7:25you weren't convinced by the second Game That jane daniels
- 7:29was gonna, be amazing now maybe you Could Say jane
- 7:31daniels is on his way to being a better Quarterback.
- 7:33Than hurts that that's for fans to. ARGUE about i,
- 7:36don't Know but i'm just. Not sure, you know if
- 7:39you if you want to make, The Argument dak prescott's
- 7:41a better thrower of the football between the Numbers Than.
- 7:43Jalen hurts he, Absolutely is so does that make him a?
- 7:46Better quarterback that's again for, an argument up. For debate
- 7:49they're all on. YOU know i always think that there's
- 7:51like the upper tier that maybe the three, best quarterbacks
- 7:54and then you get to four, or, five, six seven.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Eight nine you can put them in. A blender they're different.
- 7:58Speaker 4: Every year but even if you wanted to call that,
- 8:01A wash I just i just don't know Where the
- 8:04cowboys are definitively better outside, all right, All right i'll.
- 8:08BE fair i didn't really think. ABOUT this i Like
- 8:11the eagles, edge rushers but they Don't Have. Micah PARSONS
- 8:14so i think you can argue That the cowboys may
- 8:17have a better set of bookend.
- 8:18Speaker 2: And the eagles have done a good job of.
- 8:20Speaker 4: Handling him they have well in, certain, games yes other
- 8:24games not.
- 8:25Speaker 1: So much, but well you always say anytime the other
- 8:27team's strength is their, pass rush you Feel the eagles
- 8:31have something to neutralize that strength to the best of most.
- 8:34Speaker 5: Team's, Abilities right they've USED the rpo game and the
- 8:37quarterback threat of a run To neutralize you can't rush
- 8:42Upfield Against jalen hurts the way you Can Against.
- 8:45Speaker 4: Matthew stafford so that neutralizes some of your best. Pass
- 8:49rush doesn't make it doesn't make Guys Like michael parsons.
- 8:52Speaker 3: Any worse it's.
- 8:53Speaker 4: Just an advantage That the eagles have to be able
- 8:56to keep them.
- 8:56Speaker 3: Off.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Balance absolutely it's like, you know when you Have aj
- 8:58brown and the other team has allow corner at least,
- 9:01your strength they feel like they can do their best
- 9:04to neutralize.
- 9:04Speaker 2: Your.
- 9:05Speaker 3: Strength exactly, all right.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Let's get A Motion malbag Monday question rick and apseekin
- 9:10should we be more Concerned about washington's offense adding debo
- 9:14and to starting? Offensive linemen they drafted one in the.
- 9:18First round they also trade it for one pretty.
- 9:21Speaker 4: Good one by, The, WAY yeah i would say yes
- 9:23and yes because they were sorely lacking outside of McLaurin in. Another,
- 9:28playmaker now if deebo is not the guy from two
- 9:32or three and three years ago when he Was An
- 9:34all pro and twenty one and eleven hundred yard plus
- 9:36yards and double digit touchdowns at, Twenty two if he's,
- 9:39that guy that's a really good addition for them and
- 9:42makes them that much more.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Multi dimensional if.
- 9:44Speaker 4: He's not if he's more like the guy, last year
- 9:47then it's not as much of. A, concern however it's
- 9:50still probably Better Than noah Brown Or diami brown whenever
- 9:54they were getting from their number two guy. Last YEAR
- 9:56but I do i Agree with rick IN that i
- 9:59think the starting offensive line is a real especially those
- 10:03tackles that They Added laramie tunsall And Drafting, josh connery
- 10:07which You Know sam cosmy can come back and play
- 10:09right guard from That acl terry he was a very good.
- 10:12Right guard beatis is a good. Enough Center brandon coleman
- 10:14will probably move to. Left guard he started left tackle
- 10:16as a rookie last year and for a rookie left
- 10:19tackle didn't do a. Bad job ADAM and i, said
- 10:22this If the commanders avoid the shiny toy in the
- 10:25draft and go offensive line, this offseason that they will
- 10:29show that they are no longer the commanders of, the
- 10:31past and that they are for real with their team
- 10:34building approach. And philosophy so to come Away With laramie
- 10:37Tunsell And josh connery be able to move from guys
- 10:40And now mike one of the biggest things is whenever
- 10:43they had, an injury they were screwed up front because
- 10:46they had not only a bad, starting five but they had.
- 10:48No depth right now You've got wileye and You've Got,
- 10:52al garetti two guys who've started in, this LEAGUE and
- 10:54i think both Won A super bowl With the chiefs.
- 10:56Speaker 3: As your top two guys off.
- 10:57Speaker 4: The bench so now not only are they figuring it
- 11:00out with their offensive line as a, starting group but
- 11:03they have depth that they've.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Had well and one thing you wonder about their offense
- 11:06is do they have more peals of the onion now in?
- 11:08Year two we as somebody asked the question about year Two,
- 11:11of deebo excuse me of a Dejene, and mitchell do
- 11:15they now have a better Feeling to daniels and can
- 11:17add more to him than they did? Last year, you
- 11:20know last year you're feeling, him out and you know
- 11:23you have better understanding to him in week ten than
- 11:27you did in. Week one but now you have all offseason, and,
- 11:29SAY hey i know a lot more about him and
- 11:31WHAT more i can do?
- 11:32Speaker 4: With, him yeah and you would have to, think that
- 11:35just Like the eagles, talk about part of their success
- 11:38would be about evolution and building off of last. Year's,
- 11:42Foundation offensively i'm sure they're gonna want to do More
- 11:45And cliff kingsbury is good enough to be able to add.
- 11:47Speaker 1: To that, all right let's get a Motion your monday
- 11:51mail back Question from Kevin In. Washington township he wants
- 11:54to know more twenty twenty five Wins most Cowboys.
- 11:58Speaker 4: Or commanders, you know the thing About, The, cowboys mike
- 12:02is that everybody's down, on them but they have more
- 12:04talent than, People realize so they could easily have more
- 12:09wins Than. The commanders but the, thing is if you're
- 12:12going to talk about boom, BUS potential i Think the
- 12:14cowboys have far more, bus potential whether it be injuries
- 12:18or aging or their secondary where they have a lot
- 12:21of both injuries. And AGING so i would SAY that
- 12:25i think from a from coaching staff to an infusion
- 12:28of talent to. Young nucleus that, to Me the commanders
- 12:33are way better shape to win more games Than.
- 12:34Speaker 3: THE cowboys i.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Agree with you On the dallas thing that they had
- 12:41so many injuries, last year so it's hard to get
- 12:43a read on what they could, have been, you know
- 12:45because they won what thirteen games.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Year.
- 12:47Speaker 4: Before, yeah yeah and they've Averaged when dak is healthy
- 12:52over the last five or six years or whenever McCarthy,
- 12:55was coach they averaged either twelve or thirteen wins.
- 12:58Speaker 3: Per game you can't do that.
- 12:59Speaker 4: With talent they have a lot, of talent they just
- 13:04don't have the right mix of it.
- 13:06Speaker 3: At times and.
- 13:07Speaker 2: The coach is a wild card, for them.
- 13:09Speaker 3: Total, wildcard absolutely.
- 13:11Speaker 2: All Right thanks Kevin And.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Washington township It's gonna Jeff And Margate mosher, monday mailbag
- 13:17And the eagles revamped secondary Handle the commander's Weapons McLaren
- 13:22Deebo with daniels. UNDER center a lot of people will
- 13:25seem like they're worried About that deebo.
- 13:27Speaker 2: McLaren, tandem, well look it's, to me it's more.
- 13:31Speaker 4: About How the eagles played defense versus How the commander's
- 13:34playoffense And. The eagles it's not like they shut Down
- 13:39the commander's offense. Per, se well we know in the
- 13:42second game they give up a lot of points, They
- 13:43lost but even IN The nfc, CHAMPIONSHIP game i don't
- 13:46know if people, remember it But the commanders opened the
- 13:48game with an eighteen play drive that ended in a.
- 13:52Field goal Because the eagles were really good on, third
- 13:56down and they were also really good. At Turnovers the
- 13:58eagles created three turkeaways in that game that were not
- 14:02the Fault of Jade. And daniels it was a two
- 14:04fumbles right and one got bounced off a hand for.
- 14:07An interception they were sloppy with, the football but they
- 14:11know how to break down.
- 14:12Speaker 3: A zone they, know how and if, You Remember.
- 14:15Speaker 4: Austin eckler caught a lot of balls, against them and
- 14:18McLaurin was able to beat them both deep end on.
- 14:21Speaker 3: The inside and now again They've.
- 14:22Speaker 4: Got debo they have a, second year so they know
- 14:25how to patiently move up and down, the field which
- 14:29to me is not a oh this is the fault Of,
- 14:32Say quinnon Mitchell or.
- 14:34Speaker 3: Cooper de gen or the.
- 14:35Speaker 4: Pass rush it's just about the ability to play those
- 14:39kind of zones and still be. Turnover driven that's gonna
- 14:42be the, Big challenge mike for. This team can they
- 14:45create the same number? Of takeaways BECAUSE. Remember Cj gardner
- 14:48johnson is no. Longer there he was a big part of, their,
- 14:51takeaways right their edge rushers getting to the quarterback.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Causing disruption, No more, No More josh Sweat And, milton williams.
- 14:59Speaker 1: All, Right both let's get one or two more here.
- 15:02For you let's pop this one into the old machinery
- 15:06here so that everybody can. Read it who's watching Most
- 15:09your monday? Mail Bag which washington offensive player is the
- 15:12toughest matchup For the?
- 15:14Speaker 2: Eagles defense that's a, Good Question.
- 15:16Speaker 3: Jaydon daniels are we leaping him out of? The EQUATION
- 15:19but i mean, it's.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Like how do you match?
- 15:21Speaker 1: Him? Up right, You know, it's, like hey do you
- 15:23have the personnel to minimize what McLaren can do? For
- 15:28you their run game is like this explosive, run.
- 15:31Speaker 4: Game, RIGHT well i think in the spirit of, the
- 15:34question we'll put the quarterback aside because.
- 15:36Speaker 3: That's Obvious and i'll, say this.
- 15:41Speaker 4: It's sort of a Tie between eckler And maybe Debo.
- 15:45Slash ert the point is that they are not going
- 15:50to be able to move the ball Deep against eagles
- 15:52defense a. Whole lot maybe once in a while like
- 15:54the mclaurinbamb but they're going to try to attack a
- 15:57zone deliberatelythodically and in.
- 16:01Speaker 3: The voids which is the.
- 16:02Speaker 4: Flats especially That's why ECKLER had I think eckler had eight.
- 16:06Speaker 3: If, you could you could fact. CHECK me i thought he.
- 16:07Speaker 4: Had eight catches for eighty yards in the. FIRST game
- 16:10i think. He missed the second game he had he
- 16:13was out, in concussion and THEN The nfc championship game
- 16:18he caught. Some passes but you fall before that behind
- 16:21from turning the. Ball over you can't just throw thinking
- 16:22dunk passes to your your. Running back but that's how
- 16:25they when they move the ball effectively Against, the eagles
- 16:28It's because Ertz and eckler and the short catch.
- 16:32Speaker 3: Guys are doing.
- 16:33Speaker 4: Their JOB so i would look for the spirit of
- 16:36this question to see how McCaffrey in, year two who's
- 16:39supposed to be their more dynamic, Slot receiver. Luke McCaffrey
- 16:43let's see how, he EVOLVES because i could see him being.
- 16:45Speaker 3: An issue.
- 16:46Speaker 1: All right, last one let's go To a John in.
- 16:48Summer's point most of Your mailbag, monday question how do
- 16:50you expect the safety rotation to? Play out IS. C
- 16:53J gardner johnson too big of a loss?
- 16:55Speaker 4: To, replace yeah that's a, Great, question john because one
- 16:58of The things ADAM and i have talked about and
- 16:59Inside the birds is if you Look At, read blankenship
- 17:03he's played really well two of the last, three years
- 17:06and those were the YEARS. That Cj gardner johnson was next,
- 17:09to him giving him that he can be that.
- 17:11Speaker 3: Deep safety he can make.
- 17:13Speaker 4: The plays, you Know Allow read blankenship not have to
- 17:16handle as much responsibility. Like that we'll See How read
- 17:20blankenship not only plays next to someone WHO. Isn't Cj,
- 17:24gardner johnson but who's very likely to be a Rookie in.
- 17:27Drew mccuba, SO yes i think that the LOSS. Of
- 17:30Cj gardner johnson is it too big? To replace, that's
- 17:34hard that's a. HARD quin i, don't know, you know
- 17:35we're gonna have to. Go see BUT can i certainly
- 17:38see us? Having things, SO yeah, i MEAN can i
- 17:42have as good.
- 17:42Speaker 3: Can we have a conversation by week seven, where.
- 17:44Speaker 4: Man it's they're not creating as many turnovers they're not
- 17:47as nasty in the on the defense on the back
- 17:49end because they don't have a GUY.
- 17:50Speaker 3: Like, CJ yeah i can see that, conversation.
- 17:52Speaker 1: Happening right that's where you Know the eagles struggled without
- 17:57him the year before is they didn't get anything from
- 17:59their safe in terms of turning the. Football over they
- 18:01just could not, get anything and they was a. Revolving
- 18:03door so the question is. Certainly valid the, safety rotation
- 18:07you're hoping it's not much of. A rotation you hope
- 18:09somebody secures that, spot.
- 18:12Speaker 4: Absolutely and you hope all three of Them And sydney
- 18:15brown plays well so that you have optionality if you
- 18:18want to throw three safeties on the field you want
- 18:20to give a big.
- 18:21Speaker 3: Nickel look against certain type of offensive. Sub packages, All.
- 18:24Speaker 1: Right jeff moscher From the inside the Birth podcast Inside
- 18:27the birds. Dot com you could Get the inside Of
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- 18:32sure you Check out jeff's work Over at phillyfoice. Dot
- 18:35com As the eagles go into hibernation for the Month,
- 18:39of june but we are inside a month from the
- 18:42reporting of, Training Camp jeff moscher will be all Over
- 18:45at football at four here On The. Sports bash, all
- 18:47right most. Tax, buddy hey.
- 18:49Speaker 3: Thank you that was a great set. Of questions talk, To.
- 18:51You wendy.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Yeah man we'll do Another mailbag Monday with mosh here
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