Latest / Bearded And Crunchy / Episode 18: Bearded and Aging Gracefully
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- 0:19SPEAKER_01: From good your heights to aging people everywhere.
- 0:24SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to Bearded and Crunchy Episode 18.
- 0:32SPEAKER_01: Bearded and aging gracefully.
- 0:34SPEAKER_01: This is this is one we're gonna get into uh I guess we're an unc status.
- 0:39SPEAKER_01: I I don't I don't know how that works.
- 0:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean technically I'm a great uncle.
- 0:43SPEAKER_01: I uh yeah.
- 0:45SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm technically have children that could have kids.
- 0:51SPEAKER_01: So that's fair.
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: That's fair.
- 0:53SPEAKER_01: Uh but yeah, uh I do too.
- 0:56SPEAKER_01: I I should I have been my niece, my niece's son is the same age as Ty.
- 1:03SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 1:04SPEAKER_01: So that'd tell you.
- 1:05SPEAKER_01: Damn.
- 1:05SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:06SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, you got older older siblings.
- 1:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh my one sister's 11 years older than me.
- 1:11SPEAKER_01: My other brother's uh I got a brother and a sister that's 11 years older than me, then a brother that's 10, and then a sister that's nine, and then I had another brother that was eight years older than me.
- 1:21SPEAKER_01: But that was the one we talked about that passed away.
- 1:24SPEAKER_01: Poo-poo.
- 1:24SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but Yeah, it's just me and the me and the sissy.
- 1:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:28SPEAKER_03: And I'm the I'm the oldest out of the both of us, so yeah, yeah.
- 1:32SPEAKER_01: But well, we figure we just talk about like, you know, being middle-aged and what that means in 2026, and the types of things we go through realizing that we're not old, right, but we're older.
- 1:46SPEAKER_03: We're starting to feel the beginning effects and aging.
- 1:49SPEAKER_01: And there is a difference between old and older.
- 1:52SPEAKER_01: So um, I don't feel old, and most of the time I I don't feel 45.
- 1:57SPEAKER_01: Um, there are times when shit hits me and I go, okay, yeah, you're 45.
- 2:00SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
- 2:01SPEAKER_01: Most of the time, you know, I'm I'm I'm okay.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: Um, but until winter hits, then you go, oh man, I'm 45.
- 2:10SPEAKER_02: No kidding.
- 2:11SPEAKER_03: I you know, we've talked about it before when you can you know predict the weather with your joints, you're like, yep.
- 2:16SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're at that age.
- 2:17SPEAKER_01: That or the pr sinus pressure.
- 2:20SPEAKER_01: You're like, oh shit, something's coming.
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: But on that, let's get let's get into the question, Bob.
- 2:26SPEAKER_01: You always bring bring the best question, so let's hear it.
- 2:28SPEAKER_03: I don't know if it's the best question, but it's a question.
- 2:34SPEAKER_03: I might tweak it here as I'm reading it.
- 2:36SPEAKER_03: Because, you know.
- 2:38SPEAKER_03: There you go.
- 2:38SPEAKER_03: See, there's the yeah, so when did you first notice that you were starting to age and that you weren't a young buck anymore?
- 2:49SPEAKER_01: Um, I I wish I could say that it was something physical, but it wasn't, because I was having knee problems when I got diagnosed with diabetes, and I atoned that to be an overweight and everything else.
- 3:07SPEAKER_01: But it was about I don't I don't know.
- 3:11SPEAKER_01: Um around COVID.
- 3:14SPEAKER_01: Um, I just remember looking in the mirror and uh and that's when I started noticing the white streaks.
- 3:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 3:21SPEAKER_01: Um and up to that point, I think when you get one or two, you're just kind of nitty.
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: But then when you start to notice them, and then I was like, oh shit, like it's it's it's time.
- 3:31SPEAKER_01: It's time.
- 3:32SPEAKER_01: Like I'm I'm moving over that threshold.
- 3:34SPEAKER_01: It is time.
- 3:35SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, I think it was more so that.
- 3:38SPEAKER_01: And like sometimes like when I when I wake up and I go to the bathroom and you know, I brush my teeth and brush my hair and get ready for the morning, and I and I just see my face, and there's just eyes a little darker, you know, a little darker.
- 3:53SPEAKER_01: And I just just little things like that make me go, um, and and probably like I don't move as fast as I used to.
- 4:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: And and not in the fact of like a sports, I just mean I walked quick everywhere, everything was fast.
- 4:08SPEAKER_01: Now I'm a little more calculated and less slowing down a little bit.
- 4:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:12SPEAKER_01: But I mean that that was kind of the where what I noticed, but what what about you?
- 4:17SPEAKER_01: What was where was it when you know you noticed?
- 4:22SPEAKER_03: Kind of funny you mentioned the uh white in the beard.
- 4:24SPEAKER_03: Uh it's peppered in mind now.
- 4:26SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 4:27SPEAKER_03: And that kind of started in my mid-30s.
- 4:30SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 4:31SPEAKER_03: Um so yeah, that was kind of the first signs.
- 4:36SPEAKER_03: And I think now kind of just yeah, slowing down.
- 4:41SPEAKER_03: I was always a little slow after my knee injury, anyways.
- 4:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 4:44SPEAKER_03: Because, you know, I always walk with a limp.
- 4:46SPEAKER_03: Shit hurts.
- 4:47SPEAKER_03: It is what it is.
- 4:49SPEAKER_03: And yeah, it's just it's little things like that.
- 4:52SPEAKER_03: Uh basically wake it up in the morning sounding like a box of rice krispies.
- 4:56SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 4:56SPEAKER_03: You know, thus the whole crunchy, crunchy part of it all, you know.
- 5:00SPEAKER_03: And yeah.
- 5:03SPEAKER_03: And that and now having teenage kids ultimately reminds me of that fact.
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's I I think what did it for me too was last year when we took Ty Kennywood and me and me and Rihanna looked at each other and we're just like, man, we ain't built for this.
- 5:15SPEAKER_01: No, not anymore.
- 5:16SPEAKER_01: No.
- 5:18SPEAKER_01: But um that leads us into our our, you know, what will start, and that's the different ways our bodies betraying us.
- 5:29SPEAKER_01: I'll I'll I'll let you start it off because I'm sure these first couple we're both gonna have the same ones because we we definitely uh experience the same ones for the most part.
- 5:43SPEAKER_03: So yeah, for the most part.
- 5:45SPEAKER_03: I I'm gonna start with last year when my vertigo started and happened.
- 5:49SPEAKER_03: That was a major I mean that was like espionage.
- 5:53SPEAKER_01: That wasn't even betrayal, that was just like Yeah, and it was out of left field for both of us.
- 5:58SPEAKER_01: It's like, wait a minute, where'd this come from?
- 5:59SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 6:00SPEAKER_03: So that that's kind of Yeah, that was the starter of it, man.
- 6:03SPEAKER_03: That uh and I just mentioned, you know, my knee has been slowly I don't want to say degrading, but it's degrading.
- 6:12SPEAKER_03: You know, I've got a cartilage tear still.
- 6:14SPEAKER_03: The ACL here healed, but the cartilage it it clicks, it pops, it groans, it creaks, it winds, it grinds.
- 6:22SPEAKER_03: You know, it's it's a fun time.
- 6:23SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 6:24SPEAKER_03: You know, my shoulders don't work as good as they used to, so I gotta we talked about that in a previous episode.
- 6:30SPEAKER_01: I got that frozen shoulder from being a diabetic, and that's yeah, it's it's it's and and I I I agree with that.
- 6:38SPEAKER_01: I I actually didn't, you know, think about that part of it.
- 6:40SPEAKER_01: I thought you were gonna go like knees or something like that.
- 6:42SPEAKER_01: But oh yeah, my knees the vertigo was a good one.
- 6:45SPEAKER_01: I I I I think when I started getting the because you remember I had the clogging in my ear for a couple of years in that part of it uh before the vertigo stuff started.
- 6:56SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 6:56SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, that was like I I now that you mentioned it, I'm I'm glad you brought that up because I can remember one night when I was having one of those bad ones, you know, where like even when I closed my eyes it was spinning.
- 7:08SPEAKER_01: Oh god.
- 7:08SPEAKER_01: And I remember thinking, like, if this is what old is gonna be, I don't want no parts of this shit.
- 7:13SPEAKER_01: Oh man, it's it's this dude.
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: This is this is garbage.
- 7:19SPEAKER_03: They didn't they didn't mention that in the memo when we were young.
- 7:22SPEAKER_03: No, as I like to say.
- 7:24SPEAKER_03: No, that wasn't part of the book.
- 7:26SPEAKER_01: No.
- 7:27SPEAKER_01: Uh the book that nobody can seem to find.
- 7:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 7:30SPEAKER_01: Um, but I I was gonna go with like, you know, arthritis, knees, joints, you know, we kind of you kind of touched on that, but you know, frozen shoulders, fingers, man, ooh, and you know, my wrist and stuff, because I'm a designer and I'm at a computer, and then I do the editing and shit.
- 7:46SPEAKER_01: By the end of the week, man, if I don't have carpal tunnel, I will by this time we yeah, um, but I think that was a big one.
- 7:54SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, if we're being honest, I mean there's probably a billion ways we could we could go about it.
- 8:04SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, you know, one of the things I was gonna bring up was like the the forgetting simple shit.
- 8:09SPEAKER_01: Bro, um like I'm not kidding you, and I'm like I'm being serious.
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: Every single week I go to the store, um, I have a list and I still end up forgetting something.
- 8:21SPEAKER_03: You you ever have the one happen where you walk into the room and you forget why you walked into the room?
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: Well, there's actually a study, and and I'll I've done it before, but I'll put it up.
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: Um, what it is, is that's your brain's supposed to do that.
- 8:34SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
- 8:35SPEAKER_01: Um, what happens is is it's called, I think it's called like the threshold um like paradox or something crazy like that.
- 8:43SPEAKER_01: But when you walk into a room, your body's resetting as if like you're turning the page of a book.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
- 8:49SPEAKER_01: And your mind goes, So what you're saying is it's trying to adjust to the new thing rather than remember everything.
- 8:54SPEAKER_01: Um I I could be butchering that a little bit, but I I have seen that where but I don't disagree um because I do that very often.
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: But the the the forgetting is what you know there's times like you know, Rihanna will be like, oh, you know, I I I told you this, and it sucks because I can go, okay, did you really tell me?
- 9:16SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 9:17SPEAKER_01: Or did you forget?
- 9:18SPEAKER_01: But you don't, you know, you don't want to might want to think that you know, whatever.
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: And uh but I just the forgetting is what yeah, I I mean we were just talking this episode, like you know, we kind of want to get away from our outline kind of thing.
- 9:38SPEAKER_01: Like right, we're gonna have t a topic, but we just kind of want to do what we do best, yeah.
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: Bullshit.
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: Um but as we came in, I I told you when we were talking about it, I'm like, man, these are that's great, let's do that.
- 9:50SPEAKER_01: I suggested let's let's have the one thing we start with and then just fucking go from there.
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're like, yeah, let's do it.
- 9:56SPEAKER_01: Didn't write anything down until we got here.
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: It's all right, you know why?
- 9:58SPEAKER_01: Because I forgot that I didn't put down in my mind.
- 10:01SPEAKER_01: I told myself, hey, you talked about it, that was enough.
- 10:04SPEAKER_03: And it's okay because nobody's listening, anyways, at this point.
- 10:07SPEAKER_01: So it's yeah, yeah, the numbers are abysmal.
- 10:10SPEAKER_01: Uh the last few weeks are kind of again.
- 10:12SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, I I try not to hold too much to that.
- 10:17SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's hard because like we do put a lot of time in this, yeah.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: And and and you lean too, and and we'll be honest with you.
- 10:25SPEAKER_01: You know, with you having a new job and and and you know, Rihanna's been doing book events and she had to take care of, you know, I've had to do a lot at home, so I've been slacking.
- 10:33SPEAKER_01: When I get free time, I actually kind of use it to lounge.
- 10:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, when I should be, uh, I did get a lot of editing done yesterday.
- 10:40SPEAKER_01: You you know that.
- 10:41SPEAKER_03: But looks good, looks good, looks good.
- 10:44SPEAKER_01: I just uh yeah, I I I I don't know what it is.
- 10:48SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm just assuming, you know, and and and thank you to to Rihanna uh for for saying she was like, look, you guys don't give up.
- 10:57SPEAKER_01: You're not even if you're successful, there's not gonna give up.
- 11:00SPEAKER_01: Well, of course not, but you know, it's nice to hear people rooting for us, yeah.
- 11:05SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, guys, we had four days this week with zero downloads, man.
- 11:11SPEAKER_01: Um, but we're gonna we're gonna keep doing it.
- 11:13SPEAKER_01: And and again, you know, people are busy, it's summertime.
- 11:16SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 11:16SPEAKER_01: Um, I I chalk it up to that.
- 11:19SPEAKER_01: Um I I I really think, and again, this is something that Rihanna pointed out.
- 11:24SPEAKER_01: Uh, she was like, I really think you guys are gonna really strive when it gets cold.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: I think so.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: When people are inside and they can't do a lot, I said your videos are gonna come into play.
- 11:34SPEAKER_01: Yep, and I was really, really thankful that she opened my eyes to that because I, you know, I not saying you don't, but like you know me.
- 11:41SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 11:42SPEAKER_01: You know, just in the last six years, we've gotten to know each other, right?
- 11:45SPEAKER_01: Like somebody that knows each other.
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: I'm very sensitive and I take things to heart.
- 11:49SPEAKER_01: And you know, I never look at it as if you have done anything.
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: I always look at what I can like what can I do better?
- 11:58SPEAKER_01: Is my editing wrong?
- 11:59SPEAKER_01: Am I interrupting you too much?
- 12:01SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, there there's things that I go to because you know we've said this a million times, and I'm sorry to beat a dead horse.
- 12:10SPEAKER_01: Um, but like we're not doing it to be successful, no, but it is a goal, yeah.
- 12:17SPEAKER_01: Of course, and and so when you know, especially when we got that one spike, boy, you want to talk about a fucking blue ball's cock tease.
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: It was like a joke.
- 12:25SPEAKER_01: That was like, holy shit, like what was it, 117 in 24 hours at one time.
- 12:30SPEAKER_01: It was crazy.
- 12:30SPEAKER_01: That was I don't know who did what I don't know where that came from, but I I was like, okay.
- 12:37SPEAKER_01: And then literally every week after that has been less than 25 a week.
- 12:41SPEAKER_01: And it's like we shot our wad and that's it.
- 12:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I guess uh that was the top of the mountain, and now it's all downhill.
- 12:47SPEAKER_01: I guess so.
- 12:48SPEAKER_01: Just kind of hoping it wasn't that early on.
- 12:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, you know, hey, you're uh premature, but you know what though?
- 12:54SPEAKER_01: We we can segue that into this because I think if we'd have done this 10 years ago, we might have quit.
- 12:59SPEAKER_01: We might have been like, man, nobody's listening, but we're older, we're wiser, we under we understand that the reason we're doing this and what we get out of it is is is more valuable than anything we're gonna get out of it in the future right now.
- 13:14SPEAKER_01: So I I I think us getting older, you know, it it makes me go, I think if we would have done it when we originally did, something would have happened.
- 13:24SPEAKER_01: I just we're wiser than that.
- 13:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I hate to say it, but everything does happen for a reason.
- 13:29SPEAKER_01: And the fact that we waited till now, I think it was I think it was perfect for what I've been going through in my life.
- 13:36SPEAKER_01: Um, unfortunately, with you having to find a job and you dealing with with with with your car situations.
- 13:42SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
- 13:43SPEAKER_01: Just I mean, I I think this is a good time because this is our getaway from the week constantly punching us in the dick.
- 13:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 13:50SPEAKER_01: Um, and that's a fact.
- 13:51SPEAKER_01: And and and not saying some of it we don't bring on of ourselves, but that doesn't, you know, like guys, we do a lot.
- 13:58SPEAKER_01: He's a father, I'm a father.
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: Um, yes, I'm divorced, but me and Rihanna have to work together to raise our son, so there's still that aspect.
- 14:07SPEAKER_01: You know, I I I still take care of how you know the house as best as I can and stuff like that.
- 14:12SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it's not like we just have all day to do this.
- 14:16SPEAKER_01: Like we're not, you know, we have jobs, we have lives.
- 14:20SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're full timers, man.
- 14:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and and yet I mean, me personally, I mean, I put I mean, if we talk about what the four four and a half hours we meet on Sunday, and then the amount of editing, I mean, I and then you with with the ideas and and and searching for getting sound stuff for the for for for the pop like dude, we put a lot of time in this.
- 14:45SPEAKER_01: And again, like we're not trying to say this to make it well, we don't get paid, like we're money out of our own pocket.
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm I'm buying stuff for the computer so we can record more and get like we're we're doing the things, but um, before we stray too far away from our topic, guys, engage with us, please.
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: Tell us what you like, tell us what you don't like, because we really only have like three people that constantly give us feedback, and that's Layla, your daughter, um, Jermaine, uh, and your sister.
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: Um, and we want more.
- 15:23SPEAKER_01: Um, not that we I we love you, you know, you three for doing that and continue to do so, but you know, we need to know what works.
- 15:30SPEAKER_01: You know, we're we're going on what we think works.
- 15:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what we're feeling.
- 15:34SPEAKER_01: You guys are listening.
- 15:35SPEAKER_01: You have to tell us, like, oh, you know, you know, if you have a specific episode because of the subject matter, or because of the way we laid that out, or if like like for us, we love doing the main episodes, we truly do.
- 15:48SPEAKER_01: We do, but we love the bull sessions because that is the genesis of bearded and crunchy.
- 15:56SPEAKER_01: So, like, but uh I won't stray too away from the topic.
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: We kind of did a little bit, but I I kind of segued it in.
- 16:04SPEAKER_01: But you know, getting old, you know, like I remember it was kind of the same thing with my dad, and maybe you can relate.
- 16:11SPEAKER_01: It was like one day I remember seeing him, and he was like 35, and then the next day he was like 60.
- 16:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I know there was that time frame, but it was like, you know, he started to get gray like around when he had his heart attack in 05 and shit like that.
- 16:24SPEAKER_01: And then my mom got sick, and then it seemed like from like when my mom got sick to where my dad died, like he aged like 30 years, and it was crazy watching him do that, you know.
- 16:37SPEAKER_01: I I I assume it's the same because like my dad still was like salt and pepper.
- 16:41SPEAKER_01: I mean, your dad looks like a colonial statesman, like well, we're I mean, we're blonde-haired, blue-eyed people.
- 16:48SPEAKER_03: That's true.
- 16:49SPEAKER_03: And he went I don't want to say well, he went a darker shade of of blonde because he was like platinum.
- 16:59SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like platinum toehead blonde.
- 17:01SPEAKER_03: That's how he was.
- 17:02SPEAKER_03: I'm not quite that blonde.
- 17:03SPEAKER_03: No, you you have a I'm a darker dirty blonde.
- 17:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 17:06SPEAKER_03: Where honestly, Bubba is more of a he's actually more like grandpa.
- 17:11SPEAKER_03: Like a more pure blonde.
- 17:12SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 17:13SPEAKER_03: So but you know, yeah, he started in like 06, 07, kind of starting that that change, and it was a couple years after he had his first heart attack.
- 17:24SPEAKER_03: And then just a couple years ago, I I hadn't seen him for a little bit, because you know, we moved and lives happen, people are busy.
- 17:32SPEAKER_03: I hadn't seen him for a couple of months.
- 17:34SPEAKER_03: I talked to him on the phone.
- 17:35SPEAKER_03: Right, right, right, you know, every other day, whatever.
- 17:38SPEAKER_03: But I I saw him and I'm like, bro, you look like Santa Claus now.
- 17:43SPEAKER_03: Like, what the fuck is going on?
- 17:44SPEAKER_03: Like and for me, it's like it's hard to watch sometimes because it's like, man, like I mean, this is the guy that you know, we'd throw a ball around outside, you know, he coached little league and bowling, and he still coaches softball on Mondays for church, but Oh, I didn't even know that.
- 18:01SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 18:02SPEAKER_03: He he took when he had his his bypass surgery last year, it was already after the season was over.
- 18:09SPEAKER_03: And by the time they started this year, man, he was good to go.
- 18:12SPEAKER_03: He was like, that's awesome.
- 18:13SPEAKER_03: Like, let's rock.
- 18:14SPEAKER_03: So at least he's keeping himself busy.
- 18:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 18:16SPEAKER_01: You know, that's you know, I I think about my father-in-law, um, and I it's crazy because I know watching him and and and stuff like that, like he wants to retire.
- 18:30SPEAKER_01: But if he does, he just doesn't know what he would do with his time.
- 18:33SPEAKER_01: And like he gets so frustrated with work and shit like that.
- 18:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 18:36SPEAKER_01: I mean, hell, he's been doing what you know what he's been doing for ever 30 plus years.
- 18:42SPEAKER_01: He's worked for the rail yard.
- 18:43SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, seeing that, and it's like, I don't know.
- 18:49SPEAKER_01: Maybe our generation is different, but I will have no problem no giving up on working.
- 18:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 18:55SPEAKER_01: Um I have plenty to keep me busy.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I don't I I would love to not have to like I'm comfortable in my job, I know what I'm doing.
- 19:05SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but there's still that anxiety that comes with having a job, and you know, especially in my place twice now, and it's happened at Rihanna's place a few times, like when the profit's not turning as much, right?
- 19:24SPEAKER_01: The mass layoffs, and hey, can we cut?
- 19:27SPEAKER_01: And it's like Yeah, who can you get rid of?
- 19:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know, I don't care how much you know or how valuable you are to a company, they don't need a reason they don't care.
- 19:35SPEAKER_01: Fuck, you found that out.
- 19:36SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 19:37SPEAKER_01: But you're just an employee number, man.
- 19:39SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 19:39SPEAKER_01: And the older I get, the more I go.
- 19:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 19:42SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 19:43SPEAKER_01: They don't care.
- 19:44SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 19:44SPEAKER_01: Like I'm older.
- 19:46SPEAKER_01: They're like, eh, get rid of the old guy.
- 19:47SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 19:48SPEAKER_03: And that's the thing, you don't think about that when you're young, you're like, I'll just find another job, but then you get to a certain age and you're like, I don't want another job.
- 19:53SPEAKER_01: Well, the one good thing about what I do is you can do what I do into your 70s.
- 20:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's you know, it's not as comfortably demanding, it's not, you know, as long as you got cognition cognitive cognitive.
- 20:09SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 20:10SPEAKER_01: Um, there you go.
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: I don't read and write well.
- 20:14SPEAKER_01: I went to active public schools.
- 20:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 20:17SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh yeah, so you know, I think for me that's honestly the pain and like the aches and and the arthritis and that I think doesn't bother me as much as I'm scared about like dementia and again and and um Alzheimer's Alzheimer's.
- 20:38SPEAKER_03: You're already on the road, man.
- 20:39SPEAKER_03: Look, you can't remember Oh, dude.
- 20:40SPEAKER_03: As my dad are you telling as my dad would say, you you suffer from CRS.
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: Can't remember shit.
- 20:47SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, you know, and I don't know, like, you know, and uh it might be a little more prevalent with you.
- 20:54SPEAKER_01: I mean, luckily, you know, you drive and and you can do that a little bit, you know, older.
- 21:00SPEAKER_03: It keeps you sharp.
- 21:01SPEAKER_03: It it's more it depends on the volume of stuff and the and now for me as aging with my back being you know stupid, it's more the the sheer weight of things.
- 21:15SPEAKER_03: And and right now I'm in a position where I'm at now, it's just coffee.
- 21:19SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 21:20SPEAKER_03: So nothing is like ridiculously no, it's not like throwing around a 75-pound tire.
- 21:25SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 21:25SPEAKER_03: If I was in my twenties, that job would have been amazing.
- 21:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it would have kept you kept you in shape.
- 21:30SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
- 21:30SPEAKER_03: It did, it got me into better shape, but you know, you hit a certain point where you're like, I don't want to do physical labor anymore.
- 21:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, shit hurts.
- 21:39SPEAKER_01: And and you know growing up, you know, we heard a lot.
- 21:44SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know, there's nothing about getting your hands dirty and that, you know, physical.
- 21:48SPEAKER_01: And it's like that's fine.
- 21:49SPEAKER_01: I've done that.
- 21:50SPEAKER_01: Like I I've done masonry work, like I was a bricklayer.
- 21:54SPEAKER_01: Uh um what do they call them?
- 21:56SPEAKER_01: Um I just you know.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: I mixed the creed, took it to him.
- 22:02SPEAKER_01: Like I did that.
- 22:03SPEAKER_01: I've worked on roofs.
- 22:04SPEAKER_01: I helped my buddy and his dad like build a like I've done all of that shit.
- 22:08SPEAKER_01: I've worked in factories.
- 22:09SPEAKER_01: I don't like it.
- 22:10SPEAKER_01: No.
- 22:11SPEAKER_01: Like if if I'm not doing it for some sort of personal gain, I don't like it.
- 22:16SPEAKER_01: I just don't.
- 22:16SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
- 22:17SPEAKER_01: Like you guys can call me lazy.
- 22:19SPEAKER_01: Uh I I enjoy sitting at my desk designing shit every day.
- 22:23SPEAKER_01: I do.
- 22:24SPEAKER_01: I mean, and I I don't sit there all day at least twice during the day.
- 22:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 22:29SPEAKER_01: What I'll do, because I'm old, is I get up and stretch my legs.
- 22:33SPEAKER_01: So I put the safety glasses in.
- 22:35SPEAKER_01: I walk around.
- 22:36SPEAKER_01: Take a walk, just look at what's running, see what's going on.
- 22:39SPEAKER_01: I go back to the sample shop and talk because the head of our sample shop, um, he's also in our our our meetings where we go over because oh nice.
- 22:47SPEAKER_01: I'll give you guys a little insight.
- 22:48SPEAKER_01: I don't think I've gone into it.
- 22:49SPEAKER_01: What I do is is I design packaging for not just our automotive, but mainly automotive.
- 22:56SPEAKER_01: So like on like say like a GM assembly line, if they're putting in like let's say a drive shaft, yeah, it comes packaged specifically to hold it in place with foam and stuff like that.
- 23:07SPEAKER_01: I design what holds that.
- 23:08SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
- 23:09SPEAKER_01: We have to design for people pulling shit out of it, we have to design for robots pulling out of these things.
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: And uh what happens is is we get okay, this part needs to go here.
- 23:22SPEAKER_01: This is how many, and there's there's restrictions.
- 23:25SPEAKER_01: You can't just take like let's say an alternator, and let's say we have a big 44 by 41 bin.
- 23:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah you can't just put 50 of those in there.
- 23:34SPEAKER_01: There's weight limits and they stack, so there's there's there's things that go to it.
- 23:39SPEAKER_01: But what I do is I design for that, and our sample shop will build a prototype, we'll send that to the customer, they go, hey, we like it.
- 23:46SPEAKER_01: Hey, tweak works, this doesn't, yeah, let's do this.
- 23:48SPEAKER_01: Uh, and that's what I used to do.
- 23:50SPEAKER_01: Then I moved what's it called back end.
- 23:54SPEAKER_01: And um so now what happens is is let's say we get done with that, and the customer, so what'll happen is as a front-end designer, we'll design it and then we'll send it off to the sales guy, they'll show it to the customer and they'll go, hey, we're good.
- 24:07SPEAKER_01: They want to order the prototype.
- 24:10SPEAKER_01: Then it comes back to what's called DFM, which is design for manufacturing.
- 24:13SPEAKER_01: So we go back over it and we go, hey, was there a sample built?
- 24:17SPEAKER_01: If not, there's a specific number we have to do it because there has to be one built for a first article inspection.
- 24:22SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 24:23SPEAKER_01: If there has been one built, then we just go over it and we might change things.
- 24:26SPEAKER_01: There's times people get a reorder from a job they ordered five years ago because we design packaging that's plastic so it's sustainable, so you don't have to use cardboard and stuff like that.
- 24:37SPEAKER_01: So we'll get orders, and sometimes our processes change or uh certain hardware items change, our rivets might change, this might change, or the part itself changes.
- 24:48SPEAKER_01: And it needs tweaks.
- 24:49SPEAKER_01: Um, that's where I come in.
- 24:51SPEAKER_01: Nice.
- 24:51SPEAKER_01: We go through that, we go, hey, that's the wrong velcro for this.
- 24:54SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait a minute.
- 24:56SPEAKER_01: Um, right here, we don't do our slot cutouts that way anymore.
- 25:00SPEAKER_01: You gotta fix that.
- 25:01SPEAKER_01: That's what I do now.
- 25:02SPEAKER_01: I'm the last line of defense before it goes to the shop and built and built a customer.
- 25:07SPEAKER_01: You're like you're like quality control too on top of it.
- 25:09SPEAKER_01: Kind of.
- 25:09SPEAKER_01: I'm yeah, a little bit.
- 25:11SPEAKER_01: Um, but that's to give you an idea.
- 25:13SPEAKER_01: But what I'm getting at is like I like my desk.
- 25:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I'm not like guys, you don't have to go, oh, I couldn't do that.
- 25:20SPEAKER_01: I well, that's okay.
- 25:21SPEAKER_01: I can't and I'm going to.
- 25:23SPEAKER_01: Um, I've worked the hard jobs.
- 25:24SPEAKER_01: I've worked in factories for 10 years, I've worked in the uh um back of the house kitchens for decades.
- 25:32SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've done it all, and I don't like it.
- 25:36SPEAKER_03: No, I just don't honestly.
- 25:38SPEAKER_03: I've gotten out of it the last couple years of doing that heavy lifting all the time and just like I said, between my shoulders, my back, my knees.
- 25:46SPEAKER_03: And I've noticed too now for driving so long, is when you're getting and out of these trucks all day, my hips at the end of the week, bro, like I need a day.
- 25:57SPEAKER_03: Like I I work Monday through Friday, I need Saturday.
- 26:00SPEAKER_01: Hips don't lie.
- 26:01SPEAKER_03: No, and it well they hurt, yeah.
- 26:04SPEAKER_03: It's like that aching, like, uh and then I get a I get a half a day on Saturday to just kind of chill and relax at home.
- 26:12SPEAKER_03: And by that evening, I'm like, okay, I feel better.
- 26:15SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then I feel great.
- 26:16SPEAKER_01: You need to recover, you need a recovery day.
- 26:19SPEAKER_03: You didn't need that when you were in your 20s and early part of your 30s.
- 26:22SPEAKER_03: It was a little bit more manageable.
- 26:24SPEAKER_03: Shit didn't hurt all the time like it does.
- 26:26SPEAKER_01: I would go out drinking until two o'clock in the morning, wake up at 5 30.
- 26:30SPEAKER_01: I go to work and work a six to six shift.
- 26:32SPEAKER_01: Of course.
- 26:33SPEAKER_01: Bro, I couldn't drink now.
- 26:35SPEAKER_01: If I if I drank, let's let's let's say not even drank like that.
- 26:38SPEAKER_01: Let's say I just got drunk.
- 26:40SPEAKER_01: Oh, you'd be dead.
- 26:41SPEAKER_01: Probably calling off the next day.
- 26:42SPEAKER_01: If you did it on a Friday, you're calling off Monday because it's like the recovery time is oh my god.
- 26:48SPEAKER_01: Uh just uh I was gonna talk about a little more in the bull sessions, but a little bit, I I met with my buddy that I hadn't talked to, and it was it was it was really good talking to him.
- 26:59SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 27:00SPEAKER_01: Uh we were bringing up, you know, shit like that.
- 27:02SPEAKER_01: It's like, bro, we kept saying in our conversations, like, we ain't young bucks no more.
- 27:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, we're shit's creaking and cracking, and and that's when I told him, I said, that's where the fucking crunchy comes from in our podcast.
- 27:14SPEAKER_01: Does he listen?
- 27:15SPEAKER_01: Uh he said he's listened a couple of times.
- 27:17SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 27:17SPEAKER_01: Uh I at least I think that's what he said.
- 27:20SPEAKER_01: But I I know he follows us on socials.
- 27:21SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
- 27:22SPEAKER_01: Um, but he's a truck trucker.
- 27:25SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
- 27:25SPEAKER_01: And he also he runs this.
- 27:29SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna put it out there because he didn't tell me to, but he he he's a partial owner of this shitty bar in Akron.
- 27:37SPEAKER_01: Um and uh and those are his words.
- 27:42SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
- 27:43SPEAKER_01: That's actually where I'm I went down and met him there for a little bit because he has to make an appearance because he's a of course.
- 27:50SPEAKER_01: Um, but we met there and we talked.
- 27:51SPEAKER_01: I think I hung out with him for like an hour and a half, man.
- 27:54SPEAKER_01: That's sweet.
- 27:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was cool.
- 27:55SPEAKER_01: We were talking, but we were talking about getting old and back in the day, because like, you know, me and him, like we were causing so much trouble in Study Hall because at middle school, at Goodyear, you remember, Study Hall was in the cafeteria.
- 28:07SPEAKER_03: And the the prison cafeteria layout.
- 28:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because they had tables set up with they were like basically four-sided tables, like you had four plants, and like they would scatter you caddy cornered so you wouldn't be close enough to anybody.
- 28:21SPEAKER_01: And I was here, he was here, and we were making rackets.
- 28:26SPEAKER_01: So then they moved him over here, and we were still looking.
- 28:29SPEAKER_01: Dude, we got in so much trouble that they didn't even get us in trouble.
- 28:32SPEAKER_01: They made us helpers for the counselor.
- 28:35SPEAKER_01: Oh no, when they used to give people slips to go, they made us those so we would quit cause so much.
- 28:40SPEAKER_01: We were talking about that.
- 28:41SPEAKER_01: It was like that's awesome.
- 28:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
- 28:43SPEAKER_01: We were and and he has told me over the years that like you know, he was made fun of and bullied a little bit growing up, and he said it was nice to know that like somebody like me could look past all that.
- 28:53SPEAKER_01: And I said, bro, I was looking for the same thing you was.
- 28:56SPEAKER_01: I just wanted somebody that I could be myself around, right?
- 28:58SPEAKER_01: Shit like that, and you were one of those people.
- 29:01SPEAKER_01: But you know, getting older, you look back and you you you see things like that, and you go, Man, like that that school doesn't even exist anymore.
- 29:08SPEAKER_03: They tore it down.
- 29:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and to think of the memories.
- 29:11SPEAKER_03: I re here's a memory.
- 29:12SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it I remember my sixth grade year there at Goodyear Middle School.
- 29:16SPEAKER_03: We were walking down the hallway to the cafeteria past the main office.
- 29:20SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 29:21SPEAKER_03: And at the time, Dr.
- 29:22SPEAKER_03: Dr.
- 29:23SPEAKER_03: D.
- 29:23SPEAKER_03: Man, was she a ball buster, wasn't she?
- 29:25SPEAKER_03: She had played the show.
- 29:26SPEAKER_01: You know what though?
- 29:27SPEAKER_01: That school had some issues when I went into sixth grade, and she turned that shit up around.
- 29:31SPEAKER_01: She did.
- 29:32SPEAKER_01: And a lot of people didn't like her.
- 29:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:34SPEAKER_01: And I can understand her way of she ruled with an iron fist.
- 29:39SPEAKER_01: It was kind of archaic.
- 29:40SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 29:41SPEAKER_01: But unfortunately, it produced results.
- 29:43SPEAKER_01: It needed to be done until and it produced results.
- 29:45SPEAKER_01: It did.
- 29:46SPEAKER_01: Um, and there was you could only walk one way, like going this way down the hallway, you had to be on the right side.
- 29:56SPEAKER_01: And like you always had to be like on the right side of the of the hallway when you were going, and there was no talking in the hallway.
- 30:02SPEAKER_01: No, you couldn't.
- 30:03SPEAKER_01: Not even like going into like the lunchroom.
- 30:05SPEAKER_01: No.
- 30:05SPEAKER_03: And remember the stairs.
- 30:06SPEAKER_03: They had the one the one staircase for up, and the other staircase was for down.
- 30:11SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 30:12SPEAKER_03: But I remember we were at open house, me and my dad were, and we were walking past the office, and she walked out.
- 30:17SPEAKER_03: And she goes, Oh, well, what do you think about our school?
- 30:20SPEAKER_03: And my dad looks at her and he goes, Lady, I went here in the 60s.
- 30:25SPEAKER_03: He goes, same dungeon, different decade.
- 30:28SPEAKER_03: And walked.
- 30:29SPEAKER_03: Like he just walked.
- 30:30SPEAKER_03: I'm like I'm you know, a sixth grade year.
- 30:33SPEAKER_03: I'm like, what, 11, 12 years old?
- 30:34SPEAKER_01: And that was mortified.
- 30:36SPEAKER_01: That would have been my eighth grade year, so we would have been there at the same time.
- 30:39SPEAKER_01: And if my memory serves me right, my eighth grade year was I think her first year there.
- 30:45SPEAKER_01: It was either that or my seventh grade.
- 30:47SPEAKER_01: Because my sixth grade year, it was Mr.
- 30:48SPEAKER_01: Averett.
- 30:49SPEAKER_01: Oh.
- 30:49SPEAKER_01: He was the one that would he had fifths hidden in his desk.
- 30:53SPEAKER_01: Because he always reeked of alcohol.
- 30:55SPEAKER_03: I mean, if you worked there, you probably had to be half drunk.
- 30:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know how she was.
- 30:59SPEAKER_03: What was his name there?
- 31:00SPEAKER_03: What was it?
- 31:00SPEAKER_01: The chest lock that worked there?
- 31:02SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 31:03SPEAKER_01: Always smelled like booze, man.
- 31:05SPEAKER_01: What's funny is a lot of people didn't like him.
- 31:07SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 31:08SPEAKER_01: I did because he was a big sports guy.
- 31:10SPEAKER_01: And I had him for homeroom, and then eventually I had him for history because he was a history teacher.
- 31:15SPEAKER_01: But he would put all the athletes on the board for their sports and stuff like that.
- 31:22SPEAKER_01: Like he was he was yeah, he he was a cool dude.
- 31:25SPEAKER_01: Um, a lot of people didn't like him, but yeah, he he smelt like sweaty piss and booze.
- 31:29SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:30SPEAKER_01: Straight up.
- 31:30SPEAKER_01: But but he was because he pissed himself from being passed out drunk.
- 31:34SPEAKER_01: Probably.
- 31:34SPEAKER_03: But he worked at Goodyear Middle School and had to deal with those asshole fucking kids.
- 31:37SPEAKER_03: So I would have been the same way.
- 31:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we were not.
- 31:39SPEAKER_01: We were the last generation that, like, not saying these kids don't cause a rectus, but like we were lawless at certain points, man.
- 31:47SPEAKER_01: And there were some of us that just did not give a fuck.
- 31:51SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna ask you a question.
- 31:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I want to I I want I want a question.
- 31:54SPEAKER_03: Because I was thinking about this earlier today, and it deals with aging, of course, but have you ever been in traffic, like bumper to bumper, heavy traffic, and before that traffic happens, you've just been jamming with the radio up in the car, and you hit that traffic and suddenly you turn into your dad, and you're like, I better turn this down so I can pay attention.
- 32:13SPEAKER_01: Dude, I do it's the same if I'm like going somewhere new and I can't find it, I gotta turn the music down.
- 32:20SPEAKER_01: Like it's affecting my emotional skills.
- 32:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it doesn't.
- 32:24SPEAKER_01: No, I yeah, of course I do that shit.
- 32:26SPEAKER_01: Like I do it a lot.
- 32:26SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay.
- 32:27SPEAKER_01: Matter of fact, since Meneers, I don't even listen to music as loud as I used to because uh half the time I can't hear out of my fucking left ear anyway.
- 32:33SPEAKER_01: Well that's that's fair.
- 32:35SPEAKER_01: It makes it we can talk about that.
- 32:37SPEAKER_01: That's another thing, man.
- 32:38SPEAKER_01: Your hearing going, you know how hard it is to play video games with headphones when you gotta be able to because like with Call of Duty, if they're on your left, like in the game, you'll hear the footsteps louder on the left side, on the right side.
- 32:50SPEAKER_01: Me, it's just all out on the right side.
- 32:52SPEAKER_01: So I'm like spinning around hoping I can find the guy.
- 32:55SPEAKER_01: Causing the vertigo going, I gotta stop this mic.
- 32:57SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, it's so it's so rough.
- 32:58SPEAKER_01: I gotta stop playing this goddamn game.
- 33:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 33:01SPEAKER_01: And and another thing that I'll say is getting older that I've noticed is like younger, like I would feel bad for putting things off.
- 33:11SPEAKER_01: It's like, man, I just I don't want to do that today.
- 33:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 33:14SPEAKER_01: Um, but then now I'm just kind of like, you know what?
- 33:20SPEAKER_01: I it doesn't need to be done today.
- 33:22SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 33:23SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna do it.
- 33:24SPEAKER_01: I think I'm gonna do this instead.
- 33:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 33:25SPEAKER_03: So I'm gonna talk more in the bowl session about my weekend.
- 33:29SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna bring it here because it's gonna come out a month from now.
- 33:32SPEAKER_03: That's fine.
- 33:33SPEAKER_03: But that's why I like the bowl sessions too, because it's more like current affairs.
- 33:36SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 33:37SPEAKER_03: Oh.
- 33:38SPEAKER_03: Here we go.
- 33:39SPEAKER_03: And this is this is how the Kool-Aid is made is I'm passing a note for time.
- 33:44SPEAKER_03: This is what I do.
- 33:45SPEAKER_03: I pass notes for time so you don't hear it.
- 33:47SPEAKER_03: It's just like you're in school passing notes to your friends.
- 33:50SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, and it's funny because you, you know I I I've talked very, very candidly about the relationship I've had with my father and some of the things I absolutely disagree with that he did, but you know, a lot of the times when they said you'll see when you get older, uh that's one of the biggest face smacks in the world because it's like, you know, especially with kids, like I I thought about this the other day, like I was looking at Ty and his voice is changing, and he's got hair under his arms.
- 34:28SPEAKER_01: I think he told me he's getting it.
- 34:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I'm like, Is that that anything?
- 34:32SPEAKER_01: And I started crying, and I was like, like, where did the time go?
- 34:36SPEAKER_01: I dude, I know.
- 34:37SPEAKER_01: And I'm gonna show you this.
- 34:39SPEAKER_01: Um I found this TikTok and it made me think of him, and it says, Hey kiddo.
- 34:51SPEAKER_01: I may not have been the perfect guy, but I've lost my patience, I've missed moments, I've gotten things wrong.
- 34:57SPEAKER_01: But through it all, there's one thing I hope you never doubt.
- 35:02SPEAKER_01: I love you, and always have, and always will, no matter what.
- 35:05SPEAKER_01: That's nice.
- 35:06SPEAKER_01: And he comes back with look under it.
- 35:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man, you're gonna be.
- 35:13SPEAKER_01: And I cried guys, he put back, you are a perfect papa in my eyes.
- 35:18SPEAKER_01: You are man and and guys, like, I'm trying not to tear up now, but I think I'm gonna have emptiness syndrome more than Rihanna.
- 35:29SPEAKER_01: Because like guys, you don't understand, like, Bob is my hero, Jermaine is my hero, Vonnie is my hero.
- 35:40SPEAKER_01: But Ty gives me my will to continue.
- 35:44SPEAKER_01: And I and when I say that, guys, I don't want you to think like I'm suicide.
- 35:47SPEAKER_01: That's not what I'm saying.
- 35:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what I'm saying is is when things get rough, I look at him and I go, mm-hmm, I'm doing something right.
- 35:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
- 35:56SPEAKER_03: For sure.
- 35:57SPEAKER_01: You know, that's and and I'm segueing into that because that's part of getting older.
- 36:01SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, you know, because that's how I was feeling when I seen that.
- 36:04SPEAKER_01: You know, I was thinking about like, you know, the times when like I was tired and he was like, Papa, do you want to play a game?
- 36:10SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, you know what, but I'm just I'm tired.
- 36:12SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, and now those questions to play a game are few and far between.
- 36:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and now there's days when I want to, and he's playing with his buddies, right?
- 36:22SPEAKER_01: And it's just you know shit, wasted that moment.
- 36:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but we're human, you know.
- 36:27SPEAKER_01: And my dad said, and and you're gonna love this, this is a quote that he said, and I use it often, and he always said, If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.
- 36:36SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 36:37SPEAKER_01: And he's right, because you know, if you live your life with regrets and and what ifs, and and guys, hindsight's always 2020.
- 36:44SPEAKER_01: It is, you know, going through my divorce, there was a billion things I could have done differently and probably better.
- 36:50SPEAKER_01: Um, but overall, I think if you look back and go, you know what?
- 36:57SPEAKER_01: I did alright.
- 36:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 36:59SPEAKER_01: I think that's ultimately what we're shooting, shooting for.
- 37:02SPEAKER_03: So it's one of those things I I tell you all the time about him.
- 37:06SPEAKER_03: He's such a good kid.
- 37:07SPEAKER_03: I mean, he's he's the sweetest kid.
- 37:10SPEAKER_03: He literally is.
- 37:11SPEAKER_03: I I love that boy.
- 37:13SPEAKER_03: I mean, he's such a good kid.
- 37:15SPEAKER_01: I I I don't listen.
- 37:18SPEAKER_01: I know I'm a good person, and for the most part, I treat people very well.
- 37:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 37:23SPEAKER_01: Yes, I've been a dickhead to people in the past, and if you ever hear this, I'm apologizing now.
- 37:29SPEAKER_01: Um but like that kid, like doesn't like I I don't understand.
- 37:37SPEAKER_01: Like, I look at him and I go a lot of times stuff that happens to me, I go, I deserve that.
- 37:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, sometimes you know, I I get it, like I deserve that.
- 37:47SPEAKER_01: But when I see him, I'm like, what did I do to deserve that?
- 37:50SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 37:51SPEAKER_01: I I'll tell you that's the present of all presents.
- 37:54SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I'll tell you something.
- 37:55SPEAKER_03: When I came over the other day, the last time, uh, you were in the what were you you were in the bathroom?
- 38:01SPEAKER_03: Could have been.
- 38:02SPEAKER_03: I could have been doing a shaving or something.
- 38:04SPEAKER_03: You were trimming up.
- 38:04SPEAKER_03: Oh, it was when you stopped by and I was shaving when you came by, yeah.
- 38:08SPEAKER_03: And uh Ty answered the door, and I was like, Oh hey buddy, how you doing?
- 38:12SPEAKER_03: Where's your dad?
- 38:13SPEAKER_03: He goes, Oh, he's in the bathroom.
- 38:15SPEAKER_03: Oh, cool, man.
- 38:16SPEAKER_03: How you been?
- 38:17SPEAKER_03: Like we're just kind of small talking.
- 38:19SPEAKER_03: And I just looked at him, I was like, God damn, son, you're getting big, boy.
- 38:23SPEAKER_03: Like, I hadn't seen him for a while.
- 38:24SPEAKER_03: It's been like a year, and I'm like, and I don't mean like, I just mean up.
- 38:28SPEAKER_01: He's a big he's but he's growing up, yeah.
- 38:31SPEAKER_01: He's tall, he's turning stocky and not he's chubby, so but he's he's he's gaining inches in dude.
- 38:37SPEAKER_01: He's two or three inches taller than Rhiannon.
- 38:40SPEAKER_01: I was not prepared for that.
- 38:41SPEAKER_01: I'm six foot and he comes up to hear to me.
- 38:43SPEAKER_01: Wow, he's getting there.
- 38:44SPEAKER_01: Oh, he's gonna probably be about six two, six, three, I think.
- 38:47SPEAKER_01: That's how I think Bubba's gonna be.
- 38:49SPEAKER_01: He's Bubba's gonna be tall.
- 38:50SPEAKER_03: But that was the one thing, like he was he was kind of like lanky a little bit as a yeah, but he was very stretched out, so well he's yeah, I think he's also a picky eater, too, and now that's starting to slow down where he's eating more stuff.
- 39:02SPEAKER_01: Ty was the same way, but let me ask you a quick question, and we're off topic, but I don't care.
- 39:08SPEAKER_01: This is still gonna be a great episode.
- 39:09SPEAKER_01: I'm already loving how this episode.
- 39:12SPEAKER_01: Is there any like he because Ty was picky as shit too?
- 39:15SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, it still kind of is.
- 39:17SPEAKER_01: Was there like as picky as he was?
- 39:19SPEAKER_01: Was there that one thing that you went as picky as you are, but you'll eat that?
- 39:24SPEAKER_01: Ooh, because Ty has one.
- 39:28SPEAKER_01: So for Ty, it's sushi.
- 39:30SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 39:31SPEAKER_01: Dude would not like my chili mac, can't stand it.
- 39:34SPEAKER_01: Certain ways you cook chicken, can't stand it.
- 39:37SPEAKER_01: Certain, like, just doesn't certain mac and cheeses don't like it.
- 39:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, mashed potatoes, if they're not plain or garlic flavored, doesn't want them.
- 39:44SPEAKER_01: But the dude will fucking eat a plate full of sushi and crab legs.
- 39:48SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he he's weird.
- 39:49SPEAKER_03: I mean, he because he was so picky, he didn't eat a lot of anything.
- 39:54SPEAKER_03: Like he doesn't eat eggs.
- 39:55SPEAKER_03: Who doesn't like eggs?
- 39:56SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Ty even likes runny eggs.
- 39:58SPEAKER_03: He hates eggs.
- 39:59SPEAKER_03: He didn't like pizza for the longest time, and just in the last like two years, he's really started to like pizza.
- 40:06SPEAKER_03: Here's the question chicken, nuggets, or french fries?
- 40:09SPEAKER_01: He loves them.
- 40:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I figured.
- 40:11SPEAKER_01: That's a staple for every kid.
- 40:12SPEAKER_01: Very few kids don't like pizza.
- 40:14SPEAKER_03: Tater tots.
- 40:15SPEAKER_03: Uh he's now to the point where he will eat a hamburger with like ketchup, mustard, pickles.
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
- 40:22SPEAKER_03: You know, stuff like that.
- 40:23SPEAKER_01: Before Thai was just ketchup for the longest.
- 40:25SPEAKER_01: That's how Bubba was.
- 40:26SPEAKER_01: It was just ketchup.
- 40:27SPEAKER_01: And then he added a little bit of mustard.
- 40:29SPEAKER_01: And he found the way see, and this is what pisses me off.
- 40:32SPEAKER_01: This could have gone on the annoying episode.
- 40:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 40:34SPEAKER_01: We'll try new shit, and Ty will he'll he'll like take so when he was in in preschool, they had a thing called the Two Bite Club.
- 40:41SPEAKER_01: They're like, no matter what it is, you've got to take two bites.
- 40:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 40:44SPEAKER_01: And if you don't like it, you don't have to eat it.
- 40:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 40:46SPEAKER_01: So we would do that to him, and he would do the I don't like it.
- 40:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 40:51SPEAKER_01: You didn't even taste it, bro.
- 40:52SPEAKER_01: Bruh.
- 40:53SPEAKER_01: Um, I've been there.
- 40:55SPEAKER_01: But now this motherfucker will go stay the night at a friend's house and try every fucking thing they have and come back like, hey, guess what I found out I liked.
- 41:02SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 41:03SPEAKER_01: Bro, I've been trying to get you to like that shit like that.
- 41:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like you go somewhere else, and now he's eating like now for like um like I make BLTs pretty often.
- 41:11SPEAKER_01: That's a big hitter at my house.
- 41:13SPEAKER_01: BLTs, man.
- 41:13SPEAKER_01: And the dude wants mayo, let us tomato on it, hated mayo for the longest time.
- 41:18SPEAKER_01: Like, it's crazy.
- 41:19SPEAKER_01: But you know what?
- 41:21SPEAKER_01: Uh, I think that was a success successful episode.
- 41:25SPEAKER_01: Uh, it doesn't need to run over.
- 41:26SPEAKER_01: Um, but I would like for us to get into Bob's segment that I fucking you know, guys.
- 41:32SPEAKER_01: I'm starting to think that the only reason we're even as successful as we are is because of this fucker over here.
- 41:37SPEAKER_01: Because I don't feel like I fucking provide anything editing to this goddamn thing.
- 41:41SPEAKER_03: But I feel like I don't provide anything we've got.
- 41:43SPEAKER_01: To come up with a name for it now, too.
- 41:46SPEAKER_01: It is called Shh, huh?
- 41:49SPEAKER_03: That's your idea.
- 41:50SPEAKER_03: It was my idea.
- 41:51SPEAKER_03: There you go.
- 41:51SPEAKER_01: All right, uh, it's called Shuffle It.
- 41:54SPEAKER_01: Um, and this is where we do our weekly, and regardless of what episode, we won't do it for the bull sessions, but for our main episodes, we're gonna give you guys a glimpse into the songs that we have on our phones.
- 42:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 42:08SPEAKER_01: And I love this.
- 42:09SPEAKER_01: Put them up for you.
- 42:10SPEAKER_01: And as you guys, well, you'll know by now, um, but as of recording, you guys don't know this.
- 42:17SPEAKER_01: I made playlists in Apple Music and took pictures and screenshots and threw them up so you guys can add if you only want to add one or two of them.
- 42:25SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah, I understand that uh people that look like me uh typically aren't the biggest hip-hop fans.
- 42:32SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 42:33SPEAKER_01: Uh so I know a lot of those will get skipped, and especially a lot of the hip hop that I listen to is real.
- 42:38SPEAKER_01: Some people call it drug rap, some people call it gritty rap.
- 42:42SPEAKER_01: I like it.
- 42:42SPEAKER_03: Um, but this this week for me, a lot of people are gonna go, what in the fuck are you listening to?
- 42:48SPEAKER_03: Because it is brutal.
- 42:50SPEAKER_03: Brutal.
- 42:51SPEAKER_03: And I'm okay with it.
- 42:53SPEAKER_03: So am I.
- 42:55SPEAKER_01: But let's hear them.
- 42:57SPEAKER_01: Let's hear your let's hear your your shuffle it five of the week.
- 43:00SPEAKER_03: I shuffle it five of the week.
- 43:02SPEAKER_03: I started off with a song by Lama God called Broken Hands.
- 43:07SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 43:08SPEAKER_01: And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie when we do these.
- 43:11SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna pretend I know songs I don't.
- 43:13SPEAKER_01: I don't know that one, but it's called Broken What?
- 43:14SPEAKER_01: Broken Hands.
- 43:16SPEAKER_01: I I like the name of the song.
- 43:17SPEAKER_03: I love Lama God, I've listened to them for a long time.
- 43:20SPEAKER_03: I didn't know that.
- 43:21SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um they they just released a new album here a couple months ago, and it's Killer.
- 43:26SPEAKER_03: Like Killer.
- 43:27SPEAKER_03: And then my next one is Seek and Destroy by Metallica.
- 43:31SPEAKER_03: That is that was a shocker.
- 43:33SPEAKER_03: I haven't heard Seek and Destroy in a long ass time.
- 43:36SPEAKER_03: That was one of the first Metallica songs I fully learned how to play rhythm-wise on the guitar.
- 43:40SPEAKER_03: Oh, no kidding.
- 43:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love the hook on that.
- 43:41SPEAKER_01: That's a good that's a that's a great instrumental song.
- 43:44SPEAKER_01: That's a song that if it didn't have lyrics, right?
- 43:46SPEAKER_01: It would be a banger.
- 43:47SPEAKER_01: It's just the I mean, not that it's not without, but I'm just saying, like it was just good by itself.
- 43:52SPEAKER_03: Just the nice hook, the nice hooks in it are oh man.
- 43:55SPEAKER_03: And here's where it kind of gets a little crazy and different for me.
- 43:58SPEAKER_03: Uh open arm.
- 44:00SPEAKER_03: By journey.
- 44:01SPEAKER_03: It goes journey.
- 44:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it goes from my head to I love you.
- 44:04SPEAKER_01: Real quick, that I I told you the story about Journey and my parents.
- 44:09SPEAKER_01: My parents went to see Journey Live in 1980 while my mom was three months pregnant with me.
- 44:14SPEAKER_01: Oh really?
- 44:15SPEAKER_01: And I often wonder if that was where my love of Journey came from.
- 44:18SPEAKER_01: Maybe because obviously that was something they connected on.
- 44:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 44:21SPEAKER_01: And they say babies at a certain point can hear music.
- 44:25SPEAKER_01: So I wonder if that's where my because I I I still have their greatest hit CD from like 20 years ago.
- 44:30SPEAKER_03: Dude, I I love Journey, man.
- 44:32SPEAKER_03: Journey's amazing.
- 44:33SPEAKER_03: I don't care what the shit they get.
- 44:34SPEAKER_03: It's like, dude, they're awesome.
- 44:35SPEAKER_03: Fuck fuck anybody that hates Journey.
- 44:38SPEAKER_03: I don't and I believe it was who was it?
- 44:39SPEAKER_03: Was it Neil Schoen that played?
- 44:41SPEAKER_03: Well, he's the guitar, they're guitarist, but I believe he played with Santana way back in the 60s.
- 44:47SPEAKER_03: Oh, when they first when Santana first started.
- 44:49SPEAKER_01: He was part of Santana.
- 44:50SPEAKER_01: Because Santana was at Woodstock.
- 44:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dude, Santana's a mistake.
- 44:53SPEAKER_01: He's like a hundred years old and can still play the guitar like he's fucking 20.
- 44:56SPEAKER_03: Well, it's funny you say Woodstock.
- 44:58SPEAKER_03: There's some foreshadowing.
- 44:59SPEAKER_03: Maybe we'll talk about that before we go off on this episode about what's coming.
- 45:02SPEAKER_03: Oh shit, I didn't even Yep.
- 45:04SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 45:05SPEAKER_03: I didn't even think about that.
- 45:06SPEAKER_03: I'll finish our playlist.
- 45:08SPEAKER_03: We'll go.
- 45:10SPEAKER_03: Okay, so here's another great one for me.
- 45:13SPEAKER_03: It's called Blood Milk and Sky.
- 45:16SPEAKER_03: It's by White Zombie.
- 45:17SPEAKER_03: It's off Astro Creep 2000.
- 45:20SPEAKER_03: Blood Milk and what?
- 45:21SPEAKER_03: Sky.
- 45:22SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 45:22SPEAKER_01: I just want to write these down.
- 45:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 45:25SPEAKER_01: White Zombie.
- 45:26SPEAKER_01: They did a lot of the music for the original uh Matrix movies.
- 45:32SPEAKER_01: And and that was where I got introduced to them.
- 45:34SPEAKER_01: Uh and I love them.
- 45:35SPEAKER_03: And but yeah, which is funny because that's after Rob Zombie went solo and became Rob Zombie.
- 45:40SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes.
- 45:41SPEAKER_03: Which I it's hit or miss with me on White Zombie, Rob Zombie.
- 45:44SPEAKER_03: I love both of them.
- 45:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 45:46SPEAKER_03: But if you've never listened to Astro Creep, dude.
- 45:48SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's a great song.
- 45:49SPEAKER_03: That's a great album.
- 45:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 45:52SPEAKER_03: That's what I meant.
- 45:52SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 45:53SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 45:54SPEAKER_03: And then to round out my five is Viking.
- 45:58SPEAKER_03: By Slaughter to Prevail.
- 46:01SPEAKER_03: That one will make you want to punch the steering wheel.
- 46:04SPEAKER_03: That's a great song, though.
- 46:06SPEAKER_03: It's just Yeah.
- 46:07SPEAKER_03: It sounds like one.
- 46:08SPEAKER_01: I love the title.
- 46:09SPEAKER_01: Dude, I'm I still say Heavy Metal has the greatest titles of albums and songs ever.
- 46:16SPEAKER_01: Alright, guys, you're gonna see it here.
- 46:18SPEAKER_01: We're gonna do it live for me.
- 46:19SPEAKER_01: I always do it live because we'll do it live.
- 46:22SPEAKER_01: Let's see what it gives us.
- 46:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 46:24SPEAKER_03: No intros, though.
- 46:26SPEAKER_03: Oh gotta skip those.
- 46:30SPEAKER_03: So make sure you turn off your blizzard.
- 46:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 46:33SPEAKER_01: I don't want to hear you.
- 46:35SPEAKER_03: I paused it.
- 46:35SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 46:37SPEAKER_01: So the first one is Zombie by Bad Wolf.
- 46:41SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude.
- 46:42SPEAKER_01: Can't go wrong with that.
- 46:43SPEAKER_01: No, that's a great cover.
- 46:45SPEAKER_01: So yeah, uh, one of my favorite covers, and I think we talked about it.
- 46:49SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 46:50SPEAKER_01: Um, the next one, of course.
- 46:52SPEAKER_01: Uh it's called Spot Rushers by Ray Kwan from Wu-Tang Clan off of only built for Cuban Lynx.
- 46:58SPEAKER_01: My hip hop heads will know that.
- 46:59SPEAKER_01: Nice.
- 47:00SPEAKER_01: Um the next one is Waiting for the Worms from Pink Floyd off of the wall.
- 47:09SPEAKER_03: Wow.
- 47:10SPEAKER_03: Man, you're running the gamut here, bro.
- 47:12SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 47:12SPEAKER_03: That's amazing.
- 47:13SPEAKER_01: Uh oh my god.
- 47:15SPEAKER_01: Uh-oh.
- 47:17SPEAKER_01: Uh-oh.
- 47:18SPEAKER_01: I don't have a lot of Christmas songs on here.
- 47:21SPEAKER_02: Uh-oh.
- 47:22SPEAKER_01: Have you ever heard DMX's rendition of Red uh Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer?
- 47:26SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 47:27SPEAKER_01: That.
- 47:27SPEAKER_01: Alright, Christmas.
- 47:28SPEAKER_01: What is that?
- 47:29SPEAKER_01: That's four.
- 47:30unknown: Yes.
- 47:31SPEAKER_01: And then my last one is Changes by Tupac.
- 47:35SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
- 47:35SPEAKER_01: Good song.
- 47:36SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that's that's that's my that's my five.
- 47:40SPEAKER_01: That's great.
- 47:40SPEAKER_01: That was great, man.
- 47:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was a good one.
- 47:42SPEAKER_01: That ran all over the place.
- 47:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 47:44SPEAKER_01: Like that's why I like doing it live too, because it even surprises me.
- 47:47SPEAKER_01: Obviously, guys, he would too, but we use his phone to record so uh the video.
- 47:53SPEAKER_01: So eventually we'll have camera.
- 47:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, we'll get there.
- 47:56SPEAKER_01: Um, we're we're trying to build everything else.
- 47:58SPEAKER_01: Right now, our camera and and that isn't our main priority.
- 48:02SPEAKER_01: We just want to make quality shit for the podcast.
- 48:04SPEAKER_01: We'll get there.
- 48:05SPEAKER_01: We'll get there.
- 48:06SPEAKER_01: All right, and now to the foreshadowing.
- 48:08SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes.
- 48:09SPEAKER_01: To the foreshadowing.
- 48:10SPEAKER_01: What's coming up after this week?
- 48:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so and and again, guys, this was Bob's idea.
- 48:17SPEAKER_01: Um, we our next seven episodes are gonna be music oriented, but we're gonna go from the 60s to the 2010s.
- 48:29SPEAKER_01: Yes, um, such a good idea.
- 48:32SPEAKER_01: Um, I love the idea, but I was scared at first.
- 48:35SPEAKER_01: And I'm sure you could tell by my text.
- 48:37SPEAKER_01: Isn't it funny, guys?
- 48:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, how in this day and age, when somebody texts you when you know them well enough, you can kind of tell, you know, and I could tell with your responses, you're like, he's not feeling it.
- 48:46SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 48:46SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, it wasn't that, it's that I'm not super familiar with the 60s.
- 48:52SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 48:52SPEAKER_01: Um, but that shouldn't be a reason to not do it.
- 48:56SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna start with the 60s next week.
- 48:58SPEAKER_01: You guys won't see this episode for at least a month, but um, we're gonna start with the 60s and then every week.
- 49:05SPEAKER_01: They probably won't be our long.
- 49:07SPEAKER_01: Maybe when we get into the 90s, 2000s, those will probably be super long.
- 49:11SPEAKER_01: But I figure the 60s and the 2010s might not be quite as long because we're old grumpy men now, so new music doesn't really we like as much.
- 49:18SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, so that's where we're going, guys.
- 49:21SPEAKER_01: So to give you kind of a uh insight to what our next few episodes are gonna be, we're looking forward to that.
- 49:26SPEAKER_01: So for all you music lovers, um, make sure you tune in.
- 49:29SPEAKER_01: But now oh, do you have something to add?
- 49:31SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
- 49:32SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say that I figure that we're not to not to become a music niche, but we are very music heavy.
- 49:38SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 49:38SPEAKER_03: Because that's what kind of brought us together, anyways.
- 49:42SPEAKER_03: And that was a lot of the revolving conversation when we were first, you know, becoming friends, and we just love music, and I figured, man, that'd be I I see people do it all the time, and I'm like, I'd like to put my twist on it and see where we're at.
- 49:58SPEAKER_03: And it's gonna cover, I mean, it's gonna be everything from like folk to singer-songwriters to you know, Motown, Motown, early hip hop, early hip hop, um 80 synth pop.
- 50:10SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, I mean I'm I'm excited for it.
- 50:12SPEAKER_03: I really am.
- 50:13SPEAKER_01: Wait, wait, wait till you guys see how far back my knowledge goes in hip hop.
- 50:17SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, I can't wait because I don't know that.
- 50:19SPEAKER_01: Uh but yeah, so on that we're gonna go into my favorite part of the show.
- 50:24SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
- 50:33SPEAKER_03: Oh boy.
- 50:34SPEAKER_03: Because you're an engineer.
- 50:35SPEAKER_03: Oh shit.
- 50:36SPEAKER_03: Eric, what did the triangle say to the circle?
- 50:41SPEAKER_03: What?
- 50:44SPEAKER_03: You're pointless.
- 50:50SPEAKER_01: And on that note, we'll see you next week.