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Live with The Joy Jolt: Featuring bestselling author Arielle Ford · The Joy Jolt Podcast

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  SPEAKER_01: Here we are.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're live.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Joy Jolt Podcast, everyone.
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  SPEAKER_01: My name is Natalie Ledwell.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm Susan Patrick.
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  Super excited to be here and give you a little bit of jolt of
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  energy,
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  jolt of joy today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we are joined by our very good friend, Ariel Ford.
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  SPEAKER_02: How are you, Ariel?
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  SPEAKER_02: I am jumping for joy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yay!
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  SPEAKER_01: We love, I think that's your necklace.
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  SPEAKER_01: We love that you are here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that what I'm seeing?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Love, love, love.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Ariel is, where's the moniker of Queen Aja?
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  SPEAKER_02: And we're going to unpack what that means.
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  And we were just having a little chat before we went live today
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  about what the word
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  SPEAKER_02: retirement means.
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  you know what that actually means or what they could look like
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  and how you can
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  navigate that time of your life with joy so this is what we're
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  going to be
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  unpacking today so welcome to all of you who are joining us
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  live if you have any
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  questions or anything that you'd like to contribute while we're
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  here please make
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  SPEAKER_02: sure that you type it in the chat box there
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  SPEAKER_02: So let's start,
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  SPEAKER_02: Arielle,
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  with the term Queen Ager because I know that you've started
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  using that of late and
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that term.
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  SPEAKER_02: Love.
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  SPEAKER_02: Love.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what does that term mean to you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well,
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  SPEAKER_00: for me,
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  SPEAKER_00: a Queen Ager is a woman of a certain age,
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  SPEAKER_00: let's just say over 45,
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  SPEAKER_00: somewhere between 45 and deaf,
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  SPEAKER_00: who has as much freedom as a teenager
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  you know and as much curiosity and wants to explore the world
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  and have adventures
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  only now she has the keys to the car and the credit card and
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  can do anything she
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  wants so I first came across the term from Chip Conley from
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  Modern Elder Academy
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  and I did some research on it it turns out there's this woman
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  in the UK that
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  actually coined the term only she uses it much differently she
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  uses Queen Ager
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  SPEAKER_00: for women who are having a hard time finding work because of their age.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what happened to her.
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  SPEAKER_00: She was a pretty well-known print journalist.
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  And then she got laid off and,
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  you know,
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  it just threw her whole world upside down.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for me, being Queen Agers, like I'm a seven in the Enneagram.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm all about the party and the fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's why we love you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I want to keep having parties and fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's see, I think we're all sevens, Heath.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think we might all be sevens.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, we should probably do a seven retreat.
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  SPEAKER_00: No downer people allowed.
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  SPEAKER_01: A party retreat for partiers?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, there you go.
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  SPEAKER_01: That sounds like a joy jolt.
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  Okay,
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  type now in the chat functionality if you'd like to go to the
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  seven joy jolt retreat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so anyone can declare themselves a Queen Ager.
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  I actually have a Facebook group page up where there's a quiz
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  that you can take
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  SPEAKER_00: to see what kind of queen age you are, because there are culture queens.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are.
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  SPEAKER_00: What are they?
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  There's one that's all about the environment and there's the
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  fashion queens.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can take this quiz to determine what kind you are.
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  SPEAKER_00: I should know this stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: But anyway,
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  SPEAKER_00: if you just go to Facebook and look up Queen Agers Celebrate,
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  SPEAKER_00: you can ask to get the quiz and join for free.
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't charge anything to anybody.
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  I love it I love it because your your handle here on Substack is
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  at Aria Ford but
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  SPEAKER_02: the name of your publication is Musings of a Dream Agents
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I didn't even, I don't really understand Substack.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't understand much technology.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like a true dinosaur.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't need to, Dowling.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't need to.
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  Well,
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  and I don't,
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  you know,
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  it's like I have figured out,
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  writing's my thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can write and then I can cut and paste and put up one photo.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what I can do.
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  SPEAKER_00: And beyond that, no skills, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And people say, well, how many followers do you have?
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I have followers.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're like, where are they?
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like I write for myself and then if it helps somebody else,
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  SPEAKER_00: well,
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  SPEAKER_00: that's kind of a nice bonus.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's a great place to do that on Substack.
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  yeah it's a great place for for writers for for artists and so
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  forth and yeah so
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  it's a good place for that um so would the other thing I want
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  to I want to chime in
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  because you said something that I think is so important to
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  emphasize I love that in
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  your definition it's it's it's that you're owning curiosity and
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  I think about how
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  SPEAKER_01: curiosity and joy go hand in hand but so many times as we age
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  SPEAKER_01: Both of those things feel like they wane.
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  And so what do you do to just because that's one thing I love
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  about your energy,
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  SPEAKER_01: you are curious,
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  SPEAKER_01: you are doing your in creation,
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  SPEAKER_01: how and where does your sense of curiosity,
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  SPEAKER_01: where does it come from?
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  I absorb a lot of media so I get all day long I'm getting
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  alerts and it's from
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  media like the New York Times knows what I like so I'm like oh
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  here's an article
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  you're gonna like here's a story about this you're gonna like
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  and the LA Times is
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  sending me stuff and I'm scrolling on social media looking for
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  articles and stories
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  SPEAKER_00: and stuff and then my husband watches a lot of TV and he DVRs everything
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  SPEAKER_00: So all day long, he's saving things to show me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like right before we got on here,
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  SPEAKER_00: he was showing me the latest Jon Stewart rant,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I was laughing so hard.
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  SPEAKER_00: I get a lot of joy from comedy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  And then I had never actually watched a visual podcast until my
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  husband was
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  SPEAKER_00: discovering all these people.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like, no, no, no, you got to sit down.
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  SPEAKER_00: You got to see this guy named Rich Roll and you got to see this one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm constantly looking.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then when I find a new word or a new phrase that I glom onto,
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  SPEAKER_00: then I start writing about it and having fun with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I
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  Doing stuff like that really works and then going to live
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  comedy shows and going to
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  SPEAKER_00: live music,
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  SPEAKER_00: that sort of thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to be out, you know, I want to be in the fresh air.
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  I want to I want to see who's living in the surrounding
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  neighborhoods,
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  you know.
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  There's a woman who lives across the street from us who I
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  nicknamed Mrs.
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  Kravitz.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I'm referencing?
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  SPEAKER_00: There was a TV show named Bewitched.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mrs. Kravitz.
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  SPEAKER_00: I really know that name.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nosy neighbor was named Mrs. Kravitz.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have one who lives across the street from us.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the truth is, I'm really kind of like a Mrs. Kravitz.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know who's doing what and how.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the life that you've built for yourself now,
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  SPEAKER_02: that you get to enjoy and that you get to love,
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  SPEAKER_02: is this your version of joy?
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  I know we were talking before about the difference between joy
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  and happiness.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like is joy the journey to happiness?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, what's the end goal?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, for a long time, in my 20s, I was very depressed.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was seeing a psychiatrist.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was suicidal, taking drugs for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was just a mess.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I decided one day when I was 28,
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  SPEAKER_00: I was at this very fancy schmancy party in Key Biscayne,
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  SPEAKER_00: Florida.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, everybody's having so much fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm the only one not having fun.
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  And I decided in that moment,
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  I was going to dedicate my life to figuring out how to be
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  happy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I started studying happy people.
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  And the first two happy people I focused on was my aunt on each
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  side of my father's
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  SPEAKER_00: sister,
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  SPEAKER_00: my mother's sister.
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  and what I noticed about them was that they were the happiest
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  people I knew because
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  SPEAKER_00: they didn't have any children.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, that's the first thing I'm going to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: No kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because the most miserable people I knew were mothers.
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  SPEAKER_00: So no kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: No comment from me about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: There we go.
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  And yeah,
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  so I started doing that kernel of truth,
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  kernel of truth,
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  finding happiness.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then as I,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: over the years,
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  SPEAKER_00: because I'm a pretty good student,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I I did every self-help course.
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  SPEAKER_00: I represented every self-help author known to man.
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  And I learned a little bit or sometimes more than a little bit
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  from each one.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then I noticed most of them weren't really happy people.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were very ambitious people, but not necessarily happy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I remember thinking one day, okay, well, what's beyond happiness?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I found this Sanskrit word called Santosha.
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  SPEAKER_00: Actually, I had this thing made on Etsy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Santosha.
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  I would have put it in the chat,
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  S-A-N-T-O-S-H.
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  And it means utter contentment.
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  SPEAKER_00: and I started to realize that happiness wasn't the place to get to,
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  SPEAKER_00: because let's say,
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  SPEAKER_00: OK,
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  SPEAKER_00: I want a new job.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want a new car.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want a new boyfriend.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want this diamond necklace.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you get all those things.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then when they go away, you're not happy anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: I saw that happiness was dependent on people, places and experiences.
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  SPEAKER_00: But contentment is the choice.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the choice that regardless of what's happening around me,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to choose just for this moment,
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  SPEAKER_00: not like what's going to happen tomorrow,
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  SPEAKER_00: but right now in this moment,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to choose contentment.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I first started doing it,
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  SPEAKER_00: I would say things to myself,
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  SPEAKER_00: well,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: in spite of XYZ happening,
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  SPEAKER_00: I have people who love me and I would visually see them in my head.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have fresh air to breathe, clean water to drink, a chair to sit in.
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  SPEAKER_00: food to eat.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it may not be the food I want or the chair that I'm hoping for.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I can choose in this moment to have Santosha.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And that's made all the difference because,
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  you know,
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  I no longer have a bucket list.
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  SPEAKER_00: I no longer have a wish list.
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  SPEAKER_00: I no longer have a vision board.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't need a vision board.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's and the craziest thing about it is the more I've let go of
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  coming from a place of ego or willfulness oh I want this
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  because you know I taught
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  this shit for years I know how to make stuff happen but what I
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  do like yeah sure I
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  can I can manifest just about anything yeah but I saw during
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  the pandemic when I
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  was the most miserable during the pandemic is I'm a seven I
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  can't go anywhere I
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  SPEAKER_00: can't handle anybody um
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  SPEAKER_00: I saw that the biggest,
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  SPEAKER_00: greatest,
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  SPEAKER_00: most amazing stuff that ever happened to me,
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  SPEAKER_00: I did not manifest.
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  And I saw that I didn't manifest it because my imagination
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  wasn't big enough to
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  SPEAKER_00: actually dreamed up the stuff that fell into my lap.
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  Where it came from was getting to a low point of misery where I
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  threw up my hands
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  SPEAKER_00: and I just said,
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  SPEAKER_00: okay,
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  SPEAKER_00: God,
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  SPEAKER_00: Just show me the next little baby step.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to do.
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  I'll look for the breadcrumbs and the breadcrumbs led me to the
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  most amazing stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So now just to sort of wrap it up,
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  SPEAKER_00: I plan to spend the rest of my life not being willful,
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  SPEAKER_00: not consciously manifesting,
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  SPEAKER_00: but just like opening my arms and receiving my destiny.
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  SPEAKER_00: And whatever that is, I'm just going to embrace that and make it fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, our definition of joy is just open yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Open yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I see it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can't see my arms right now because I'm cut off on the...
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  SPEAKER_01: I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're only going to sliver.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's the physical act of opening your arms to the world,
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  SPEAKER_01: opening your heart,
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  SPEAKER_01: opening your mind,
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  SPEAKER_01: opening yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just open yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're living in such a world of so much tension.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was hearing you say,
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  you're not living by those lists and making those hundred phone
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  calls and doing all
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  SPEAKER_01: these things,
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  SPEAKER_01: which,
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  SPEAKER_01: gosh,
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  SPEAKER_01: as you were saying it,
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  SPEAKER_01: it's like,
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  SPEAKER_01: God,
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  SPEAKER_01: how many people are living so
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  SPEAKER_00: Tight and closed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hey,
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  I was phrased with my list that if I did something that wasn't
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  on the list,
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  SPEAKER_00: I would write it down just so I could cross it off.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, this is so stupid.
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  SPEAKER_00: No one ever looks at my list.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, look at my list.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm still doing old school.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
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  SPEAKER_00: I still have one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  But it's only because my memory's gotten so bad that if I don't
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  write it down,
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  SPEAKER_00: it won't get done.
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  SPEAKER_00: But so it's different now.
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  It's not about like,
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  oh,
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  I,
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  you know,
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  I got to reach my goal of 100 calls a day.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's gone.
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  SPEAKER_00: But now it's just like, oh, my stupid memory.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what I also love about what you're saying,
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  SPEAKER_02: and this is something I've become to realise,
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  SPEAKER_02: because,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: this last year has been a doozy,
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  SPEAKER_02: like a doozy of all doozies.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when I think about,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: manifesting,
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  SPEAKER_02: because,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: with my movies,
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  SPEAKER_02: I've been teaching that for 18 years.
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  SPEAKER_02: What I'm thinking about now is not necessarily stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like you were saying before.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now it's like, how do I want to feel?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: How do I want to feel and who do I want to be?
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  Which is why Susie and I have teamed up with The Joy Jolt here
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  because it's like
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  SPEAKER_02: it's not about,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: doing things,
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  SPEAKER_02: accumulating things,
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  SPEAKER_02: achieving things as much as it used to be.
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  SPEAKER_02: But for me it's more about, well, how do I want to feel?
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  SPEAKER_02: Because when we're feeling happiness and joy and gratitude,
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  SPEAKER_02: then we manifest things we didn't even know we wanted.
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  SPEAKER_02: without a lot of effort.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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  But for me,
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  the goal these days is to be in that frequency as much as I
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  possibly can.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is a frequency.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's totally it.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's like this.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm just kidding.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: But I think it's a frequency.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's a learned plugging into.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like,
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  I think people are more used to the frequency of busy and tense
• 14:29
  than like joy is
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: contentment.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: Joy is peaceful.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I think we think joy is like, like, no, joy.
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  Joy is actually being able to take an intentional deep breath
• 14:41
  in and really just
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: smile in the moment.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: Just be like, you know, to yourself.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that frequency, I think that's a learned skill.
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  And the other piece to that is because there still are things
• 14:56
  that will rattle me,
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: plug me in,
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: piss me off.
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  SPEAKER_00: Only now I've trained myself.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't react,
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: and then I get out my spiritual toolkit,
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: which is,
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 15:09
  it's either EFT tapping or the Sedona method or taking a
• 15:13
  lavender bath or cutting
• 15:15
  cords or doing all of those things until I can get back to what
• 15:20
  I like to call my
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: heart neutral space.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not up here.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not down there.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: I just want to get to neutral.
• 15:29
  and breathe as opposed to,
• 15:31
  I can't believe that person just did blah,
• 15:34
  blah,
• 15:34
  blah.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just going to rip them a new one.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's huge advice.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: Whoever's going to watch the recording of this,
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: it's so easy to say,
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: but it is really a conscious practice to do,
• 15:48
  getting to the neutral space because it's in that spot where
• 15:52
  now you have choice.
• 15:54
  Because when you're not neutral,
• 15:56
  you are applying meaning to whatever's happening around you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so that lavender bath, really important.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and that works so well.
• 16:06
  Yeah,
• 16:06
  my bathtub gets a big workout at least once a day,
• 16:09
  sometimes twice a day.
• 16:10
  That's actually my creative space,
• 16:12
  like being in water,
• 16:14
  you know,
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  and just kind of.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: and I'm very fortunate that my bathtub has an ocean view.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: So it's got a breeze coming through.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: And quite often, my dead sister will talk to me when I'm in the bathtub.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's always like a wild surprise.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: In my head, I'll have a question about something.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: And then I hear this voice say, oh, call this one, do that.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: What is your sister's name?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: Her name's Debbie Ford.
• 16:43
  Debbie Ford hi Debbie she doesn't have to log in hey Debbie
• 16:49
  she's probably saying
• 16:50
  you don't know who I am sorry she was very famous she was very
• 16:58
  famous she was on
• 16:59
  Oprah multiple times multiple times yeah and she was she was a
• 17:02
  bit of a pioneer in
• 17:03
  our you know space yeah she wrote it she wrote a book called
• 17:06
  the dark side of the
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: light chaser she was all about shadow work
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I was her guinea pig, so imagine what that was like.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds like it still is like.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's fun.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: I love it when dead people come to me and give me messages.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's just because I know they're just like right there.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right there.
• 17:30
  I mean,
• 17:30
  you can't really hug them,
• 17:31
  which is kind of a bummer,
• 17:33
  but they're never gone.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: The veil is so thin.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: And once we get past our own human grief,
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: which is that's the quagmire of kind of the physical experience.
• 17:43
  It is like the relationship with the veil is so different on
• 17:46
  that when you're on
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: the other side of that grief.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 17:48
  I my mom's been gone for 20 years and she still continues to be
• 17:52
  such a huge source
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: of joy in my life.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: And so I really love that.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: I have to tell you the funniest story.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody.
• 18:01
  Oh,
• 18:01
  Marcy Shyamoff gifted me a reading with this channeler and it
• 18:07
  took like forever.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: But I finally got on the phone with this woman.
• 18:10
  and she said don't say a word I'm just going to start talking
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  and she said first
• 18:16
  thing that's happening is your mother Sheila she named her by
• 18:19
  name your mother
• 18:20
  Sheila is here and she wants you to know she forgives you for
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  selling her car
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because when she was still alive, she shouldn't have been driving.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: So I just sold her car.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I just thought, this is for real.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: How does this woman who doesn't even know my last name,
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: knows nothing about me,
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: and she's talking to my mother.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: And my mother was a very funny person.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: So she starts with, yeah, I'm forgetting.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well,
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: and I love,
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: too,
• 18:48
  because I feel like that's part of when you are in what you're
• 18:51
  describing as that
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: opening your arms to the world.
• 18:54
  That just really struck me as you said that it's like you're
• 18:56
  opening yourself to
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: things that are beyond explanation,
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 19:01
  and then all of a sudden the world is a little bit more playful
• 19:03
  and you can enjoy,
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: your relationship with your dead mother,
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: and your dead sister.
• 19:10
  And like,
• 19:10
  you know,
• 19:11
  but if you're not open,
• 19:13
  that conversation feels totally different.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: And there's people who don't believe it.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: They think it's like this better not be it.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: I've had lots of lifetimes on planet Earth,
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: and I enjoyed most of them,
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: and I'm not coming back.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're not coming back.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not coming back to this space and time.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: I want to try something new.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Try something new.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Curiosity.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sounds like that's right.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: What's next?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: What's next?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: Where else is next?
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: So,
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: Arielle,
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: it sounds like you have a lot of things that you do throughout your day,
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: and when we come back for our paid subscribers,
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'd really love to dig deeper into your spiritual toolkit.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: Some tangible things that they can apply themselves.
• 19:59
  But what are some of the things other than practices that you
• 20:03
  do to protect your joy?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: Oh,
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: so the number one thing that I do is that there are people in my life,
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: probably yours too,
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: whether they're
• 20:15
  old friends or relatives that are really annoying and you
• 20:20
  really don't want to be with them.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: And you can't you can't lose them completely.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: OK. Those are the people that are on my homeopathic doses list.
• 20:32
  So when they show up,
• 20:34
  I immediately say,
• 20:35
  oh,
• 20:35
  my God,
• 20:36
  I'm so happy to hear from you.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I need you to know I have exactly 12 minutes to talk.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: and I set very strict boundaries.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Or if they're coming to town, it's like, oh, yes, I want to see you.
• 20:49
  I can meet you over at Bird Rock Coffee for 17 minutes,
• 20:52
  but it's just a crazy day.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just that's how I most protect myself because there are people,
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: they've been in my life for 40,
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: 50 years.
• 21:02
  They're very like they're the three o'clock in the morning
• 21:05
  people that if I call
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: them,
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: they do anything for me.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so I can't really lose them.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: but I also can't let them suck me dry.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why they're not listening to this.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: They would never admit it.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: What I always love about hanging out with you,
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Ariel,
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: is it is always fun,
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: and it is always in discovery,
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: and I always learn something new for you.
• 21:31
  I'm excited about what we're going to talk about in the deeper
• 21:34
  conversation,
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: and so we're at time right now,
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: so thank you for everyone's time,
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: energy,
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: and life.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Our paid subscribers,
• 21:41
  we're going to be jumping back on in a few minutes with Ariel
• 21:45
  Ford to learn more
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: about what's in her spiritual toolkit.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so thank you for joining us on the Joy Jolt Podcast.
• 21:51
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• 21:55
  please come over and find us at natandsue.substack.com or just
• 22:00
  go to thejoyjolt.com
• 22:02
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• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: See you in a bit.