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Calcio Carousel - Inter, Azzurri, Europa League - Ep. 218 Ft. SauceGMP · The Calcio Guys

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  Unfortunately a sad way to start the podcast this week. Sad news coming out
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  of Florence, coming out of Farantina. Joe Baroni passed away this back past
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  weekend, you know on the Coulcher guys Giano Nicholas and joined this week by
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  John Marco. We just do want to start the episode send your condolences to
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  the Barone family. I mean, I don't think we we could do a
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  podcast about Caulcho justice without bringing this up first and foremost. You feel for
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  the team, guys. You feel for the team because it feels like they've
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  they've gone through this with a player a couple of years ago, right wir
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  Stordy. You know, I don't know if there's a whole lot to say,
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  you know, but one thing I'll say, uh before we continue,
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  is that since Comiso and Barone took over the team, it seems like they
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  helped grow the game in uh in the States, John Marco, you as
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  an Italian American for sure, I'm sure you felt some of that represent representation
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  with Fiorentina too. It's just it's a tough situation, especially now that Italy
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  is playing in the States. So uh, we just want to send our
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  condolences before continuing, Yeah, no, absolutely, and uh, you know
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  today which is even which is even more of a shock of a news,
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  is that uh you know, finding out that today it was his fiftieth birthday
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  would have been so you know, it just incredibly sad. You know,
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  we obviously, like Nick said, we sent out our our our well wishes,
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  our condolences, our our love, you know, over to to the
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  family, to to Fiorentina, to his loved ones, obviously everybody that's that
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  was close to him. Also in his you know cultural journey obviously born in
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  Italy coming to the States. Uh, and you know he kind of brought
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  cultural back to the States obviously with with this project with Fiordentina. And just
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  incredibly sad. Obviously the postponement, postponement of the Atlanta Fiordentina game that we
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  saw saw the news, it was it was because of of of his his
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  situation, uh, you know, heart attack whatever. So just you know,
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  just terrible, terrible news. Yeah, there's not much more to say,
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  obviously, you know, we we hope. Yeah, it's the most
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  I know to to from TV all those very close to him in New York.
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  So it's you know, It's one of the things where you never want
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  to see this in sports and life and everything. So again, uh,
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  and ours is through the family, Yeah, Joel, Joe will definitely be
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  in the in the cultural community. Yeah, I mean, I gotta really
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  just echo the same things I know. Alessandro, my co host uh on
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  the pod is uh, he actually coached and played with within his organization,
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  and he actually played with his son, so that was uh, he kind
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  of hit home with him, you know. And when you think about it,
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  it kind of puts like your own life in perspective too. You kind
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  of start to recognize your own mortality and you're in your parents mortality. Like
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  he was only fifty seven. That's so young. I mean, that's that.
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  It's definitely a tough loss. You gotta feel for, like you said,
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  for Fiondina because they had, you know, the incident with a study
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  and now that now Joe Badona, It's I gonna say it is pretty pretty
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  dark times there. And I just hope that they are able to recover from
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  this and and and just be able to u continue the good run of form
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  that they've had. So yeah, that's a good point. Man. Enjoy
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  life, Enjoy every day because we don't know what what comes tomorrow. And
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  you know, we could get all philosophical here on the podcast, but be
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  happy, don't don't get sad over stupid things. I know we like to,
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  uh, we like to get angry and upset sometimes when our teams lose,
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  you know, rightfully so, but don't let it affect you the next
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  day and uh all your loved ones for sure. But uh, you know,
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  we we we can sit and talk about that phil philosophical point all day,
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  but you know, moving on to the on field stuff. If you're
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  in Tina, by the way, does play their next game against Melan,
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  so I expect that to be an old, an emotional one for against your
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  team Agiano. And there is that connection there between Melan Fiorentina even regarding hostilities.
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  So it's going to be an interesting game. But we'll we'll, we'll
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  move on to the other side of Milan. That's why we have John Marco
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  on this week inter who uh they didn't win this weekend, which is pretty
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  shocking. One one against Monopoli. A lot of people talking about a lot
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  of other things besides this, besides what happened on the field. But you
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  know, sticking out what happened on the field, John Marco, You know,
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  dharmiad for forty three minute having a fantastic season scores and then one Jesus
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  replies in the eighty first. So Inter was close to finishing the job.
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  But they don't. I mean there's still what eighteen points above first now,
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  so it's not the worst thing. I mean, not always a good team.
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  Fourteen fourteen. Okay, there you go. But what did you make
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  don't don't show, don't don't sell his milan too short? You know,
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  yeah, he thinks he's got a shot. So okay, what what did
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  you think of the game that Marco? Once they once they started playing,
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  well they come out of the woodworks from left, right, and right.
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  Nobody knew there was any fans in Charlotte, Carolina. Oh my, it's
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  all long. That's what I have you on. Uh yeah, about the
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  match before I get angry, you know, and get all worked up after
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  you just told us. I think you just told us to be calm.
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  Yeah, no, it was, uh listen, I kind of expected it
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  to be a difficult one. You just played one hundred and twenty minutes in
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  the Champions League. You lost on penalties. I was disgusted, and I
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  think it's hard to just bounce back up and and kind of go as business
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  as usual in the league. And I think, you know, part of
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  it. Obviously, not only are the players tired, but I think they
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  also may have underestimated, you know, Monopoly. I'm sure that they thought
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  it would be an easy, easy opportunity for them to, uh, to
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  take advantage of this and be able to to maybe get a quick three points.
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  And what it feels like lately, especially for them. You know,
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  when you look at the game that they had against Atletico, right, they
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  score early, you think that's it. They're broken. They're not gonna want
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  to, you know, be willing to fight back. Obviously not the case
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  with the Diego Simeona side, and then now the same thing with Monopoly.
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  Like I'm sure they were thinking that they were still in it the entire game.
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  I was concerned that as the game progressed, we didn't get that second
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  goal to just kind of kill it off. But I mean, I'm not
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  I'm not too shocked that we didn't. We didn't win that though, to
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  be honest, not that I was, you know, rooting for a job,
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  but I just I thought that they would be a little tired and it
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  kind of showed in the second half there. Yeah, and guys, just
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  just to be clear going forward that it's all love. It's it's it's no
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  personal shots jam Marco and I. It's it's it's all it's all good,
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  it's all love. But yeah, joking aside and all that. You know,
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  you brought up some good points, you know, I think if there's
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  any I mean, obviously you don't want to you don't want to slip up
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  at any point in the season, but with the season that has been having,
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  I think, you know, a slip up wasn't you know, the
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  worst case scenario. I think the bigger slip up, if you want,
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  was in the Champions League for sure. Obviously it's not the way to that,
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  you know things, Yeah, exactly the things we're supposed to go.
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  I guess if you want to say that this is a team that you know
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  made it all the way to the to the final last year, and you
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  know what, even though I'm a Milan East, that they even probably could
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  have won it, right so or maybe you should have won it. So
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  you know, it's it's one of those things, you know, not be
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  besides the season that they're having is still you know, a quality opponent,
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  you know, So I again, you know, I'm not gonna take too
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  much out of it. I don't think. I don't know about if you're
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  if any into these these did, but I wouldn't take too much, you
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  know, into that. I don't know if you want to kind of you
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  know, touch upon you know, the stuff off the field. I know,
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  we don't really like to get into the controversy Jamaco, but it seems
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  to be the biggest or one of the you know, bigger headlines obviously,
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  uh, you know, of the week. So just for me before I
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  let you take the four, it just it's just crazy that we're still talking
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  about things of this nature right in this league, in this game. So
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  people are gonna people are gonna pick whatever side they want, and that's fine.
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  You know, defend your player, defend this. Defend that I understand.
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  At the end of the day. You know, it seems to be
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  that it's more than just you know, something that you can kind of sweep
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  under the rug. It seems to be we don't know for sure, right
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  obviously we're not We're not there, uh, you know, we don't know,
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  we didn't get picked up what the mike said and everything, but you
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  know, I had seen something before that this kind of even exploded a bit
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  more that I think it was the zone because I think it Wasta that interviewed
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  run His after the game and she kind of tried to ask a question concerning
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  the concerned the situation, and he kind of just even you know, dismissed
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  every like dismissed it like, you know, whatever's on the pitch, it's
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  on the pitch, he said. You know, he said what he had
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  to say about a story being you know, obviously a good player, a
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  good person, a good you know, good uh good good player, I
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  guess, And it was kind of it was kind of over if, I
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  felt like, and then you know, different news comes out and you know
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  it's it's kind of like who do you believe? And like I said earlier,
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  we'll never know, but it's just something that obviously shouldn't be in the
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  game or in life and just in general. Right, so just I guess
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  your quick thoughts on on the situation at hand, and because it also affects
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  not only your inter but you know, our adualty as a trio here tonight,
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  you know, not getting on the point to the States and can potentially
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  face you know, ten ten match band whatever it may be. So just
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  your quick thoughts to on the whole situation. Yeah, I mean we kind
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  of talked about it on our podcast that's going to be coming out later later
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  tonight, And you know, I said even on there, and I tweeted
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  out that if it comes out that this was exactly what he said, then
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  I feel like his contract should just be terminated. You know, there's no
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  reason to have that on on the team. You know, if you're gonna
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  suspend them ten games, what's I mean to me, what's the point?
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  Like, I mean, his season's over, And I think it sends a
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  clearer message to not just in de East, but even players within the locker
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  room that you know that this type of behavior will not be tolerated, you
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  know, and you know, yeah, fans want to do it. That's
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  one thing I'm not saying I candone that either, But like you can't really
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  just go around, you know, just banning people because you may not know
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  like this, we know who the people are involved, is what I mean.
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  Sure, if it comes out that Jun Jesus, you know, was
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  was making it up or maybe elaborating or making you know more making something out
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  of nothing. I don't know. Again, like you said, we were
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  not going to know really what happened. I know the federal prosecutor is going
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  to be meeting with Shelby tomorrow if I'm not mistaken to kind of get a
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  little bit more information about this and and kind of dig a little deeper.
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  I mean, yeah, it's it's it's disgusting. There's really there's no there's
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  no need for for that, you know. I I I jokingly said,
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  you could have said it. You could have called them a trash defender.
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  You could have said all these things about haun Zus without going to that,
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  and yeah, those would have been right, you know, like you would
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  have been able to get away with it. So it's it's kind of sad
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  that, like you said, like in this day and age, that this
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  is still how people talk and this is kind of like the mentality of so
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  many Italians that it it just brings a it's a shame that the news that
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  we always get, you know, or the light that's always shine on on
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  Setia is when it's something like this, you know, it's never you know,
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  if when when when Inter goes to the Champions League final. No,
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  no, it's a fluke. You know, they got lucky. They negative
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  always negative, it's always negative, like we we never get anything good,
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  uh for the league. And and again like here's here's another instance. And
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  and I I hope as a fan that that this isn't true. You know,
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  you don't when you hear someone who you know, who's who's being cancer
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  twice and you hope that they have a better outlook on life and more respect
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  for life and for people in it. So it's kind of hard to believe
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  it. But hey, you know what it's it's kind of like he said,
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  he said, kind of thing and we'll see, hopefully what comes out
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  of it. But yeah, and I mean, what's crazy this whole situation.
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  It was the the no seasonal weekend in city and like you said,
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  it's a it's a bad look. Again, we'll wait and see, uh
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  see what comes out of it. And the fact that spile at the thought
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  a charity shouldn't uh be part of the ADZUITI you know, it could mean
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  one of two things. Could mean that it's his punishment punishment or just wanted
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  to avoid distraction of the team. But like you, like you said,
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  Marco, just it feels like whenever there's a story out of the city,
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  it's always this type of stuff and it's frustrating a man, just just if
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  you're going to trash talk someone talk about their skills. You know, we
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  we've all we've all played it's easy, yeah, you know exactly, we've
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  all played sports. We've all heard bad things said on the on the playing
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  field, but you know, it's it's rare, right, and especially when
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  you get to that level when you're a professional player and you're I don't know
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  how old the chervy is, thirty six, thirty five, thirty six,
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  Yeah, want to Yeah, like you know, just no better if that's
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  true what he said. And you know what, kudos to one Jaysus who
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  you know, he scored the goal. Ah, he didn't make a big
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  deal out of it first, but he only he only really said something when
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  he when it became a big deal afterwards. You know, Yeah, I
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  think he just handled it well. Like yeah, I think if if if
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  he had a say, it would probably just be all dealt internally, you
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  know, because obviously after the game, the referee who was at LA Panna.
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  I think obviously supposed to be you know, report referee, report this,
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  and that there's a process that they go through, but there's so many
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  cameras around, it's so hard to avoid these things coming public, you know,
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  And it's just it's just sad that there's always a negative stain on the
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  city and it's always the same thing. But you know, again, Lloyd
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  and see and I hope that the city actually does something, if that's what
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  I said. But moving past this, this inter this Snapoli game. Sorry,
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  you know you kind of touched on it before Champions League losing penalties.
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  It's it's tough to lose on penalties. It's I feel like, especially at
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  the club level. Uh, it's not like there's many opportunities to play in
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  penalties. I'm sure they practiced it beforehand, but it's not like when a
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  team goes to a national national team goes to a tournament and they're practicing for
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  multiple hours penalties. So uh, you know, it's really lucky to draw
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  sometimes. But uh, I mean, what did you make of this whole
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  this whole two like two leg battle against Athletico man I tried not to be
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  biased when I was talking about it. Initially, but I thought that this
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  was going to be the toughest tie of the round the sixteen. I thought
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  if you looked at every matchup that this, that these two teams were the
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  most evenly matched. You know, of course, we're not like Man City
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  where we get Copenhagen, you know, in the around the sixteen and you
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  can just like slap them around and and and get through easily. You know,
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  we had to go up against Diego Simone, who I think is one
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  of the best tacticians out there. He really knows how to play a strong
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  defensive game, very organized, and the first leg, you know, I
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  thought we should have won that and get matched two three nail. You know,
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  our Nato bitch had two opportunity one the first, I mean people say
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  that he you know, he screwed up the first one. That's tough,
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  that's that's that's coming in across the field on a volley that's always gonna be
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  tough to hit clean. Sure, he probably could have done better and got
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  it on goal, but I still think that that wasn't really a clear cut
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  chance. The other one, I mean, into this season have had a
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  lot of problems where they their strikers lean back. I mean, you're taught
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  as a kid to get over the ball and not lean back when you're shooting,
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  you know, because it's just going to go straight over the net.
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  And he did that when he would have he could have literally put it anywhere
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  on net and it probably would have gone in, to be quite honest.
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  So we won one nil, all right, cool, we're up. Then
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  the second leg we go up too nil, and I'm like, this is
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  this is it? I don't think we're going to give them two goals.
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  Sally I was wrong. You know. I don't like to say that there's
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  luck in these games, but look does play a little part. You have
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  to have a little bit of luck with certain instances. And you know Pavard
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  I bet you if he tries to clear that ball one hundred times, he
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  does it ninety eight times. And this just happens to to to somehow go
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  over his foot backwards off Bostoni's hand and right time Twan Griesman. And now
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  you're now you're one one in the match, two to one in the on
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  aggregate, and Electico feels like they have an opportunity. And I was worried
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  going into this one, you know, I said it in some Twitter spaces
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  that I was I thought that the first twenty five thirty minutes, Ilectico was
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  going to try to get a quick goal that they wanted to to kind of
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  like re establish themselves in the tie and and kind of give themself confidence.
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  I'm sure they didn't expect to go down one, but then they were able
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  to equalize quickly after that, and I think gave them hope and we left
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  that door open. You know, uh Bla and Touram had opportunities in the
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  second half. We didn't capitalize on those, and unfortunately Stephan de Rye was
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  was caught sleeping and allowed Memphis to Puy to kind of turn him and he
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  got a beautiful shot on goal and we're able to take the two to one
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  lead and then push us in the extra time. And I thought Inzagie had
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  got his substitutions wrong in the in that tie. I think that, you
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  know, he had opportunities to bring on different guys. I was saying specifically
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  Tejan Buchanan, you know, shout out you guys in Canada. Like I'm
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  I'm a believer in him. I think he's a fantastic dribbler. He's got
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  incredible pace and when you're going up against tired legs, I think that type
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  of attacking style would have benefitted us greatly. For whatever reason, Stemoni disagreed
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  and decide to bring on Davey Classen of all people, who I mean is
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  just I think any one of us could go out there and do the same
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  thing that David Classen does when he gets time on the pitch, So if
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  not more, if not more exactly, and then we go to penalties.
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  And the only I said it too, I was like, Summer has to
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  save this for us, Like, the only way we're gonna win this if
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  Summer, you know, make some big saves. And the only guy I
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  had faith in Hakkun was the one who scored. And then the next two
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  you know, unfortunately missed in Sanchez and in Classen. Now it was kind
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  of interesting because I don't know if you saw the clip where the close up
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  when they all him, the all three guys that missed for ended when they
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  ran up to the ball, the ball kind of bounced. I don't know
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  if that was I've never seen that in my life. You see it leave
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  the ground like I insane stuff, And they all just happened to kind of
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  not hit it cleanly. Sanchez had his eyes closed though, so I don't
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  think he was gonna score regardless, But I kind of got mad at at
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  Lotao when he missed his penalty, although I had zero faith in him making
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  it, but I'm like, how do you look? Like? What are
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  you looking at the ground for? And then when you see the replay,
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  it's like, oh my gosh, okay, I could see why you're looking
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  at the ground. You're like, how did that even happen? But listen,
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  it's the look of the draw. I could have gone the other way
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  too. You know, who knows jan Jano Black is a fantastic penalty saver.
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  I wish we would have. I don't think the player studied enough going
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  into penalties, because if you look at previous shootouts that he's done, every
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  time teams beat him, they went to his left side, so the shooter's
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  right and his left. We just kept shooting to his right and are like,
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  if we would have studied a little bit better, I think that we
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  would have recognized that that that was weakness of his apparently, because Real Madrid,
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  every shooter that they have shoots it to his left foot or his left
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  side. So it is what it is. We lost. I was I
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  was hoping to get Arsenal in around the sixteen. I you know, I
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  had a nice little beef with with some of their those EPL guys about it.
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  But I think that I think because of what we did last year,
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  expectations were a little higher this year, which is kind of unfair in some
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  Yeah, I mean it's normal, but I think it's unfair because that was
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  such a perfect you know storm really of things to play out the way it
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  did for us to be able to get there. That even though I think
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  we were stronger this year, I still think we did have some weaknesses.
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  And you see it with with the substitutes that we brought on compared to what
• 21:42
  I let to go brought on. So sure, I kind of wanted to
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  hit on to a bit of a bit of that point there. You know
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  what, Like we said, last year, incredible season for them, you
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  know, made it all the way to the final face of tough Men City.
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  I don't get one nothing game. And you mentioned obviously the expectations were
• 22:03
  definitely higher. I mean, this is an inter squad that even though maybe
• 22:07
  maybe to a man, if you want to say, you know, it's
• 22:10
  not the same caliber of other teams in Europe like an Atletico. Okay,
• 22:12
  sure, but I think, like you said, like they also have improved
• 22:15
  in terms of depth, in terms of players that they could they could bring
• 22:18
  on that are still quality. And I don't really want to use this word,
• 22:22
  but because it's it's it's a big word with which you know, you
• 22:26
  know, clubs, seasons and stuff like that. But was this because I
• 22:32
  think, again, I think it's normal to have those expectations higher, but
• 22:37
  I think they obviously should have done a lot better. But this is not
• 22:41
  where you wanted to end up in the Champions League, right, I mean,
• 22:44
  you know this is a this is a club that's that's doing not only
• 22:48
  incredible things in Italy but but in Europe as well. Like you know,
• 22:52
  the eyes are on inter this season because they're playing you know, out of
• 22:55
  this out of this world. So would you say it's a bit of a
• 22:59
  failure? Is that the word to use? Because I don't really like to
• 23:00
  use all those types of words. But you know, overall in this Championshape
• 23:03
  campaign, you know you didn't progress past this point. Would you say it's
• 23:08
  a failure? Would you say there's a bit of regret, like, like,
• 23:11
  I don't know where you kind of stand on on even though it was
• 23:15
  you know, obviously a tough draw, this is still a quality inter side.
• 23:18
  So I just kind of want to know, like hear your thoughts on
• 23:22
  like people saying that, yeah, you know, this is a failure into
• 23:25
  the you know they're they're running away with said the yeah, but they you
• 23:26
  know, they couldn't get past you know, I want to go in Champions
• 23:30
  they you know, they could have made it to the run of sixteen and
• 23:32
  you know, people are even saying they had a clear another quar run to
• 23:34
  the final with with the type of matchups that uh, you know kind of
• 23:37
  we saw in the unveiling of of the Running sixteen. So just your overall
• 23:42
  thoughts and all that drama goal, Yeah, I think I think for a
• 23:45
  fans point of view, it's definitely a failure, you know when when you
• 23:48
  when you look at what we did last year, what we're doing this year
• 23:52
  in the league. It hasn't really translated in the Champions League. Of course,
• 23:56
  even in the group stage, we we kind of just coasted really,
• 24:00
  I mean, granted we were able to get some big wins early and then
• 24:03
  we were able to rotate and then you know, we went down three nil
• 24:06
  to Benfica, but then when our subs, you know, we were able
• 24:08
  to to come back and make it three three. So that kind of just
• 24:11
  gave you know, a lot of people hope that this team, even with
• 24:15
  our B team, we can beat anybody. Blah blah blah. I think
• 24:18
  that again more more unrealistic expectations. I think, you know, we saw
• 24:25
  there was a little bit of a lull when when inter the Los Latado for
• 24:29
  for a few games in January. We didn't lose any games, but it
• 24:33
  just felt like things were a little bit slower without him in the lineup.
• 24:36
  And then to what im got hurt and then we you know, even though
• 24:38
  still able to perform, it just felt like guys were not really clicking.
• 24:42
  You know. Avnatovich was was getting a lot of criticism Alexis Is Alexis I
• 24:48
  can't you know, if people listen to my podcast, they know how I
• 24:51
  feel about Alexis Sanchez, and it was just very uh, it was gonna
• 24:56
  be hard. But when you look at for the club's view, thebjective,
• 25:00
  I mean they said it all season, even before the season started, the
• 25:02
  objective was getting the second star. That's it. Last season was great,
• 25:07
  but they they said round the sixteen and second star. So in the eyes
• 25:11
  of the club, we're pretty much doing what's what's expected. We as fans,
• 25:15
  we get a little carried away. We want everything. We want to
• 25:18
  get all the trophies. We want to be able to have the bragging rights
• 25:21
  or our rivals and be able to talk to the you know, the Milanista
• 25:23
  and Juvandini and be able to rub it in their face. And but I
• 25:27
  think when when you when you look at it from from the club's perspective,
• 25:30
  this is this is going according a plan. You know. I was kind
• 25:36
  of hoping that we would have been able to be Nopoly and hopefully you know,
• 25:38
  have a chance to break the record that Contes said. Now, at
• 25:42
  best we can tie it. We'd have to win every game out, which
• 25:45
  I think is going to be a tough tough call, especially when we have
• 25:47
  a you know, a derby with with Milan, you know, in a
• 25:49
  few weeks. Yeah. So, yes, I'm disappointed we didn't progress in
• 25:55
  the Champions League. I really think that, and I don't want it to
• 25:59
  sund arrogant, but I really think that when we are playing to the best
• 26:03
  of our potential, there's not a team in Europe that really really scares me.
• 26:10
  And you could say that's that's crazy or you know, and I'm sure
• 26:11
  there's gonna be people who aren't fans that in't there who are gonna like laugh
• 26:15
  at that comment. But yeah, at our best, I really think we
• 26:18
  could go toe to toe with anybody. Now when there's times when like you
• 26:22
  know, Badella doesn't play to his potential, which has been happening sometimes,
• 26:26
  Mickey Tarian is turning the ball over, Bastoni is lasadaisical in defense. Yeah,
• 26:30
  things can can turn to turn bad, for sure, But if everyone
• 26:34
  plays to the best of their abilities, I truly believe that it's it's where
• 26:40
  one of the if not the toughest out in world football. And in terms
• 26:48
  of the rest of the season, you know, obviously they saw need to
• 26:52
  country the school that though there's what nine games left, Yeah, nine games
• 26:57
  left, so I think mathematically they could probably clinch hit what five six games,
• 27:04
  let's say, uh, probably even less. But now that you know
• 27:08
  they're out of corporatality, they're out of Champions League, do you think it
• 27:11
  could almost be a challenge for the players to not get complacent with such a
• 27:18
  such a big lead, and I mean it helps that it's only nine games,
• 27:22
  but a big lead and really not much else to fight for. Do
• 27:25
  you think it could backfire a bit? I mean, yeah, it's definitely
• 27:29
  possible for sure. You know, like you get a little too comfortable,
• 27:33
  You're you're just looking in your rear view, you're not really too worried about
• 27:36
  it, and then next thing, you know, you know, you could
• 27:37
  drop points to Empleie, you could drop points to like that's our next three
• 27:41
  matches. Yeah, I mean, I think if you get maximum points then
• 27:45
  it's kind of to me it's over, you know, But if you drop
• 27:48
  any points in those games and Milan Is it just goes three for three there
• 27:52
  and then they're coming into the derby confident having won three in a row.
• 27:56
  I think it's the fourth one if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong,
• 27:59
  but you know, if they're able to win out and leading up to
• 28:02
  that match and then we dropped maybe you know, points against with and GAGLIERI,
• 28:07
  now what now instead of you know, a fourteen point lead, you're
• 28:08
  looking at an eight point lead, and you know, I head to head
• 28:11
  left and then it turns into five like you could leave the door open and
• 28:15
  you know, and things can turn fast. I I hope they don't get
• 28:19
  complacent. I thinking Zaggie has them in the right mindset. You know,
• 28:22
  I really think this game against Napoli was more fatigue than anything. I don't
• 28:26
  I don't think it was really any indication of of just you know, taking
• 28:33
  the foot up the guests. I think it was just hey, we're tired,
• 28:34
  man like, and he did. I think he did a poor job
• 28:37
  of rotating. But again, maybe he thought that, hey, I got
• 28:41
  to play my best players and try to get the points early. And he
• 28:44
  was hoping that if I take a two zero lead into the sixtieth minute,
• 28:48
  maybe then I can get some fresh legs on there and let them rest.
• 28:49
  But it just didn't play out that way unfortunately. So hopefully hopefully we're able
• 28:55
  to rebound against emply and and this not even be you know, just a
• 28:57
  blip on the radar. Yeah, listen, it's was like no last season,
• 29:03
  you know, they ran away with things and they had a you know,
• 29:06
  a crazy leader over everybody. And I mean, I don't think it's
• 29:10
  obviously the same as as as into this year in terms of the points,
• 29:12
  I don't believe, but still they've been, you know, as much as
• 29:18
  we hate to say it, as as opposing fans, I mean, they've
• 29:21
  been the best team in Seria. I would say majority of this of this
• 29:26
  Citia campaign. You know, maybe at the beginning you could have said,
• 29:29
  you know, I could argue some other things, but almost from the get
• 29:32
  go Inter was was was one of the stronger teams, and then so alway
• 29:36
  solidified themselves as obviously the best team in Italy and and a competing force in
• 29:40
  Europe as well. So yeah, man, but no, you broke it
• 29:44
  down right. I mean, anything is possible, especially in this league.
• 29:47
  We always say it, there's no easy games in Seraya. It's it's it's
• 29:49
  COmON knowledge, it's common knowledge at this point. I mean, anybody that
• 29:53
  really follows the league knows that. People that don't and and see like an
• 29:57
  inter step up to and I an nas or a kality like you said,
• 30:02
  I can be like, oh, well, what the hell of this inter
• 30:03
  is? Is not what we thought they were? I mean, but you
• 30:06
  know, you watch the league week in week out, and and are you
• 30:07
  know, become these like diehard fans kind of like we we are, and
• 30:11
  you realize that you know, that's it shouldn't happen, but there's always that
• 30:17
  that possibility that it does. And you know there's a lot of times in
• 30:19
  history and and just even these past couple of seasons that we've been you know,
• 30:22
  producing content around the city. Yeah, and you know you guys as
• 30:25
  well, you know these these games happen, right, so we'll see.
• 30:30
  I think it's uh, it's it's only a matter of time in terms of
• 30:33
  like obviously until we know how things are really gonna pan out. But just
• 30:37
  quickly, I want to get your thoughts because you mentioned that you mentioned the
• 30:41
  Derby coming up in a couple of weeks. Obviously it's a huge game,
• 30:45
  not only for for for inter but also for me. And I think it's
• 30:49
  it's it's it's a big anytime it's a derby, it's always huge. But
• 30:52
  I think this one come come you know, in about a month's time,
• 30:56
  is is, uh is really big. So I saw today obviously the big
• 31:02
  news. I know, you know, my meal and chats and stuff like
• 31:04
  that with you know, monchaw and stuff like that. But where you know,
• 31:07
  there's there is gonna happen on a Monday. Now what the hell is
• 31:11
  going on? Said? Yeah, blah blah blah. You know, I
• 31:14
  want to before I say my thoughts. I can't just want to get your
• 31:15
  touch to jam Marcos as an interast on the show tonight, biggest game of
• 31:21
  the weekend maybe if I have the season, but potentially uh played on a
• 31:25
  Monday. Uh you know they they the Italians, I think like to think
• 31:30
  that. You know, people are on the world still don't work right,
• 31:33
  so but we do. We do work, guys, we have jobs.
• 31:36
  I don't know if we can really catch the game on a Monday. We
• 31:37
  make it work when we can. But it just for me a bit crazy.
• 31:41
  But I know it's because of Europe that's been played obviously, Milan's playing
• 31:47
  uh Roma in in in Europa League on the on the eighteenth. Like I'm
• 31:52
  saying about the rest and all this again, before I say continue my my,
• 31:56
  my thoughts on the jam Marco, just your thoughts on and the would
• 32:00
  be there be on a Monday. Come in a month's time, it's Monday
• 32:05
  night football. Yeah, not the one we want to we want exactly you
• 32:09
  know. Unfortunately there'll be no uh no Troykman doing doing coverage for us.
• 32:14
  But it's a shame really, it's it's a shame for our for our you
• 32:20
  know, us as fans who are unfortunately not over there in Italy or even
• 32:22
  in Europe really to to be able to enjoy it and you know, and
• 32:25
  you know go home and and sit down and watch it, you know.
• 32:29
  I mean, I'm fortunate where I get to work from home, so I
• 32:31
  I will be able to have it up on my second monitor. But you
• 32:35
  know, if you if you're a fan of either club and you and you
• 32:37
  know, like I got friends in New York who are who I mean an
• 32:39
  East who are you know, in the plumbers union and stuff. They can't
• 32:43
  just like just stop what they're doing to to be able to watch the game,
• 32:45
  unfortunately, you know. And then you know, my my my cousin
• 32:49
  is is I mean, I'm about to disown him, but he's a he's
• 32:51
  a big Mealan fan himself, you know, he's he's a state trooper.
• 32:53
  He can't he can't you know, just pull over and just just put it
• 32:57
  on the phone or whatever, like yeah, it doesn't work, yeah,
• 33:00
  unfortunately, But like I just don't get what what what Setia is thinking.
• 33:05
  I I get Listen, I don't want either team, whether it's Melin or
• 33:09
  Roman, to have an advantage, you know, going into a matchup of
• 33:14
  that magnitude in the Europa League. You know you want to SETI a team.
• 33:17
  Listen. I'm not a fan of either ones, but I think for
• 33:20
  the league, it's good if we if we have some kind of another European
• 33:22
  trophy winner, whether it is you know, Conference League, Europa League,
• 33:25
  Champions League. I mean, it speaks it's good for the league, So
• 33:30
  I I understand it for that matchup. I just don't think it's it's good
• 33:36
  for for a fan, like you said, fans around the world to be
• 33:39
  able to enjoy it when you move it to a Monday, So I mean,
• 33:45
  yeah, I listen. I hope that it still turns out to be,
• 33:47
  you know, a fantastic matchup. I know that your side has been
• 33:52
  a bit a bit rough going in the last last few matchups. I hope
• 33:58
  we keep that. Dude, It's I would be yeah, I'd be pretty
• 34:04
  pretty annoyed myself if it was the other way around. So yeah, I
• 34:06
  can only imagine how you feel. But yeah, hopefully hopefully we for me
• 34:10
  we can keep the street going and uh, and it'd be good for us.
• 34:14
  And then you know, you guys can go focus on the Europa League
• 34:15
  and now you know, take this match off actually, you know, focus
• 34:19
  on that. We'll see, we'll see. But easy, what do you
• 34:22
  think of this Romo matchup? Too bad? We don't have Janny here.
• 34:24
  I mean we'll obviously talk to him when the time comes for that. Yeah,
• 34:29
  well it's a couch of guys derby on in Europa League. What what
• 34:31
  do you make that matchup? Well for just to continue on onto the onto
• 34:36
  the Monday scheduling with with with inter for the thereby. I mean, it's
• 34:38
  it's it's it's a bigger shame also for you know these I'm grateful enough to
• 34:44
  be a part of Miracle motrel here here in the city. But and you
• 34:47
  know, there's fan clubs all over in North America, right, you know,
• 34:51
  I know in there has some has some big numbers coming out of uh
• 34:55
  the New York City Fan Club. But from my mistake in Manhattan, you
• 35:00
  know, you know, they have some big numbers that come out and they
• 35:02
  do a really good job out there. I know obviously are good buddies and
• 35:07
  and our friends over at Melan Club, New York City, Frank and the
• 35:10
  boys. So you know, it's it's tough. Now. Now you're gonna
• 35:15
  have to not be able to get together on a on a Sunday where it's
• 35:17
  more accessible to to your members and and kind of you know, gather around
• 35:22
  it and and watch this really really big game, right because you know that
• 35:24
  thereby is is huge no matter where they are on the table intern meal,
• 35:30
  and it doesn't matter, it's always it's always a big, a big matchup.
• 35:32
  And it's a shame. It's a shame, you know, we're not
• 35:36
  going to be able to you know, be out in numbers in terms of
• 35:39
  you know, with our fan clubs, you know, just with with with
• 35:43
  the guys, you know, even if you're not part of a fan club,
• 35:45
  just getting together. It's it's it's a bit of a shame. But
• 35:47
  again and I kind of understand, I guess, you know, maybe the
• 35:50
  tactics behind it in terms of you know, having the flexibility to to move
• 35:55
  these games and to to to kind of get maybe an even plain field,
• 36:00
  if you will, for for both sides. As long as you know,
• 36:04
  we always wish that in these types of games that it's best eleven versus best
• 36:07
  eleven, best team win, no controversy. You know, the t folds
• 36:12
  are always top at the w DE La Madelina. I've always said it.
• 36:16
  I'll continue to say it. Uh, they're they're they're amazing all times.
• 36:21
  So yeah, it's just it's a shame and I think it will be a
• 36:24
  good match. But yeah, we'll have to wait and see. Uh maybe
• 36:29
  take off the day off of work. I don't know. People people can
• 36:31
  always do that, right, So we'll see. But in terms of the
• 36:36
  in terms of the obviously the Europe Week draws mel and Roma, I was
• 36:40
  joking obviously with Johnny on the pod, Uh maybe a Meal and Roma final.
• 36:45
  Unfortunately it's not to be in the final. It's at this stage of
• 36:49
  the Europe Week. So what do I think. I mean, listen,
• 36:52
  it's it's it's familiarity. Obviously, we know this this this club. You
• 36:58
  know, we we handled business with them. I'm you know, during during
• 37:01
  the year, but you know it was under Jose Mourinho and not this this
• 37:08
  Roma side. So I think it's gonna be tough regardless. You know,
• 37:14
  obviously it's not a it's not a pushover matchup even though as as having friends
• 37:20
  of opposing teams, you like to banter, You're like, oh yeah,
• 37:22
  my team is better, your team ship whatever, this and that. But
• 37:24
  I think it's it's always gonna still be tough. Uh, you know,
• 37:30
  European Nights, no matter the level, is is always is always exciting,
• 37:35
  It's always tough. So I'm curious to see how this plays out. Obviously
• 37:42
  Roma has them has has Roma playing you know, lights out so far since
• 37:45
  he's taken over. I think, and if I'm not mistaken, the only
• 37:50
  there's still the only loasses to to your to your inter if I'm not mistaken,
• 37:55
  because I'm trying to I'm trying a bit of a blank if if they
• 37:58
  lost anybody else, But yeah, no, I listen, it's it's gonna
• 38:02
  be tough. We need our big players to step up. We've had a
• 38:06
  pretty pretty good campaign so far. And I think, you know, if
• 38:12
  everything pans out, if if everything you know goes how it's supposed to go,
• 38:15
  and I can see this Mealan side, you know, in in the
• 38:19
  final, uh and you know, hopefully maybe you win it, win it
• 38:22
  all. So h I would be so happy. You know what it's it's
• 38:30
  it's a rock and a hard place, uh, for for Poli, for
• 38:32
  for me. But yeah, no, listen, I think it also helps
• 38:37
  in terms of and I didn't realize how much it's really helped, but in
• 38:40
  terms of us getting a fifth spot for champions come next year, all these
• 38:45
  all these you know, these uh, these these advancements and tournaments uh in
• 38:52
  Europe are are are crucial. Obviously, Unfortunately only one of us, one
• 38:58
  Italian team out of this matchup is is going to go through. So you
• 39:01
  know it's gonna it's gonna end a journey for for one. But I'm excited.
• 39:07
  I'm excited, you know. Obviously Johnny is part of the show and
• 39:09
  and and the banter and uh and and the back and forth is gonna be
• 39:13
  fun. So I think we're both excited, Johnny said in in our group
• 39:16
  chat. Just made the best team win. That's that's typical Johnny nice sky
• 39:21
  Johnny answer. So I know we'll get into a little bit more when once
• 39:24
  he's back on the on the podcast. So uh, looking forward, looking
• 39:29
  forward to that matchup because it's two crucial matchups. But again it for me,
• 39:32
  the only downside is is where falls obviously in this in this in this
• 39:37
  calendar. You can't pick these things obviously, but it's it's it's in a
• 39:40
  it's in a tough stretch of games, uh for me Land, so you
• 39:45
  have to face room at twice. Obviously we have intro on on Monday night
• 39:49
  football, uh in the derby, and then I think you've went to the
• 39:52
  following weekend. So it's not gonna get any easier. You obviously has to
• 39:58
  take a one game at a time and if they and perform like they did
• 40:00
  over the weekend, I think, uh, you know, uh, dis
• 40:04
  guy's the limits so excited, I guess is the overall overall feeling for for
• 40:08
  this mashup. Back to inter we do have a couple of questions that we
• 40:14
  got on Twitter before we talked about the answer. Some of them serious,
• 40:19
  some of them are not so serious. I saw them quickly. I was
• 40:21
  like, not serious out all these questions, but yeah, one of them
• 40:24
  from your friend Julie out to Belly ask him if you if we would replace
• 40:28
  Mike Con with Dumfries in the trouble winning side. I think I think the
• 40:31
  answer to that is yes, because you're a huge Dumfries fan. Yeah,
• 40:35
  die hard fan. Everybody everyboybody knows I'm the biggest Dumfrees supporter, exactly,
• 40:42
  not even not even if I was blind, I would say that, like
• 40:45
  it's crazy. If if I could launch someone into space, it would be
• 40:50
  Denzil Dumfries. Leave him floating out there forever. Yeah, this this other
• 40:59
  question about uh, you know Andre Radyeah. So the context behind me to
• 41:04
  replace Summer next season, mister alpha bravo. Yeah, the context behind that
• 41:09
  is before the Bologna matchup, when Hondanovich, who ended up having a back
• 41:15
  injury, and Radu was stepping in, I said foolishly that he is ready
• 41:22
  for this instant. I will die on the hill of you know, Andre
• 41:25
  Radhu being you know, good enough to be the keeper for freeing. And
• 41:30
  then we we know how that played out, and I got it. I
• 41:34
  mean it was relentless what I got from from me, ded ast which rightfully
• 41:37
  so I probably will never be able to live that down. But yeah,
• 41:43
  he's another guy that he just backfired on me. I mean he listened.
• 41:47
  If you would have seen him at the under twenty one Euros, he got
• 41:50
  Romania to the quarterfinals, he ended up losing to Spain and he was fantastic.
• 41:54
  I mean huge saves. I mean just catlike reflexes. I thought that
• 42:00
  he was going to be, you know, a legitimate goalkeeper, but that
• 42:02
  guy's got so many errors in his game. And uh yeah, mister A
• 42:07
  B. I will say, Summer is not going anywhere. We could we
• 42:09
  can leave it off the squad. So yeah, and yeah, I listen
• 42:15
  Summer. I mean many people were like saying, like, oh, why
• 42:17
  Summer, but like, I don't know, man, He's always been a
• 42:21
  quality keeper. It's it's it's interesting to see him in this in the city.
• 42:24
  How he was going to adjust and it seems to be that there's no
• 42:28
  there's no there's no you know, skipping his staff and he's just there's nothing
• 42:31
  really stopping him. I think. I mean, how many goals have you
• 42:35
  guys can seen so far the season? It's what thirteen fourteen? I think
• 42:37
  it's like thirteen fourteen might actually might be fourteen goals now fourteen right with with
• 42:42
  the Knaple game and after this weekend, so you know, best best defense
• 42:45
  in the league, even though I don't I'm not a big fan of of
• 42:51
  some of the players in that back line, but uh, you know,
• 42:54
  I think as a unit is really where they're shining. I don't know if
• 43:00
  to a mind like individually, like if they would be elsewhere, they can
• 43:02
  maybe replicate that. I think, you know, as the unit, I
• 43:06
  think they're a really strong unit, is my point. So and that's I
• 43:08
  think only I think only Pivard could actually go somewhere and be able to be
• 43:12
  successful. I think the other guys are are are only good because of the
• 43:15
  system they're in. Uh. I have problems with BOSTONI as a defender.
• 43:20
  I don't think that he's a strong I like BOSTONI, but I see where
• 43:23
  you're where you're Yeah, on the ball, I don't think anyone's better than
• 43:27
  him on the ball, like being able to pass and cross and stuff like
• 43:30
  that as a center back. But yeah, when it comes to actually defending,
• 43:34
  I think there's a lot of deficiencies in his game, and I was
• 43:37
  expecting some growth that hasn't really shown up yet. But listen, he's uh,
• 43:40
  he's a young guy, you know, I still think there is room
• 43:45
  for development. Most defenders don't hit their peak till twenty eight anyway, so
• 43:47
  you know, he's he's got a couple of years there to be able to
• 43:52
  grow in that, and I'm not saying that we give up on him,
• 43:54
  but yeah, I think that there is just some things he needs to iron
• 43:59
  out. I just want to before we move on to the talk. I
• 44:01
  just had a couple more you know, question point and points on on into
• 44:07
  you know, just now that we're talking about this this this defense, and
• 44:12
  it kind of tails into uh, tails into the AJI. So I'll ask
• 44:15
  that second. But I guess like, what's like, what obviously the season
• 44:22
  is going great, the scudetto is is more in your backyard than it is
• 44:29
  out if you want to say, I know it's obviously gonna be tough and
• 44:32
  there's still time to to to be had, but you know, uh,
• 44:36
  it's it's it's almost there, unfortunately. But what's kind of like, where
• 44:42
  do you see this this, this, this team, this club going into
• 44:45
  next year. I know it's obviously very very early, but I just want
• 44:50
  to, like you guys covering into every week over on your show, right,
• 44:53
  you guys know better than better than us or better than me, we
• 44:57
  only see it from the outside in like where do you see growth in this
• 45:01
  in this in this in this club, in this in this in this team.
• 45:06
  Uh, where do you see this team going going in in the future,
• 45:09
  and is in Zagie the the guy to continue on this path for in
• 45:15
  there? And it would And a follow up to that is like, is
• 45:19
  he the guy that can even take you to that next level in your opinion
• 45:22
  before we move on to the Ajuy. Yeah, No, those are those
• 45:27
  are questions that we we definitely think about too. I think that in terms
• 45:30
  of you know, growth, there's just some players excuse me, that you
• 45:36
  would want to see be able to mature and be able to have you know,
• 45:38
  key roles in this team. You know, we brought in in the
• 45:42
  summer. Not that he's played poorly by any means, but like you would
• 45:45
  hope that he would have taken over that starting role from Mickey Tarion by now.
• 45:49
  He's admitted himself that he hasn't been able to, uh, to get
• 45:54
  a firm grasp of the position. And also really his passing has been a
• 45:59
  little bit you know, leaving leaving some to want more because he just what
• 46:05
  you love about Barella is his vision, his ability to to pick out a
• 46:08
  man and play a ball fates. What his strengths are is having a motor
• 46:13
  that just doesn't stop, which Butela also has but being able to get in
• 46:15
  goal and be able to to to find those pockets of space and score.
• 46:20
  You want him to be able to also add the passing range to his game,
• 46:23
  which right now hasn't been able to to to grow into his game.
• 46:28
  So hopefully, you know, that's something that will be able to change.
• 46:31
  We have a young defender b Sek who's been fantastic. You know, He's
• 46:35
  got a little bit of room for growth to and maturation and hopefully maybe not
• 46:38
  take over the spot for Machedaby, but maybe you know, be able to
• 46:43
  to carve out more and more time for himself as well. I mean,
• 46:45
  there's rumors already about Into being interested in Bonjoro and Calafioti in the summer,
• 46:51
  which I'll take either one of those guys, you know, I'll let yeah,
• 46:54
  I'll let I'll let you know, Milan and Juvia fight over whoever's left.
• 46:58
  But we got to get one of them, you know. That's that's
• 47:00
  that's I think that's the the key goal. And I think that he might
• 47:04
  be the key player, or one of them will be a key player for
• 47:06
  the summer. You know. We we have that Emmy and from Porto and
• 47:10
  Zielenski from from Napoli coming in the summertime. So that pretty much solidifies some
• 47:16
  other positions. You know, our our forward line has has doesn't have the
• 47:20
  depth. I think that Emmy definitely upstaff for us. And then you got
• 47:23
  Zielinsky who's probably going to step into the starting role and allow Mickeytarian to take
• 47:29
  less of a role off the bench, and especially with Davey Klassen going to
• 47:31
  be done after this year, it'll probably be you know, Mickey Tari and
• 47:36
  Aslani and Flats off the bench, so the depth will definitely be improved.
• 47:40
  Which I mean, listen, say what you want about in Dead and you
• 47:45
  know, I know the jokes about Mato Ta League and stuff, but the
• 47:46
  guy knows how to work, you know, the free the free signings.
• 47:49
  He finds the guys, he he locks them off and gets them to want
• 47:53
  to come you know early, and you don't have to worry about competing with
• 47:55
  anybody else like these guys are are are locked in with us, which I
• 48:00
  think is huge. The really which we talked about today in our pod was
• 48:06
  the main thing that we're kind of worried about is what's going to happen with
• 48:07
  this loan with Oak Tree and what's going to happen with Steven Jang and the
• 48:10
  ownership and are they going to have to surrender the ownership to oak Tree?
• 48:15
  And is oak Tree just going to settle the first person that makes an offer,
• 48:17
  Like we really don't know how that can go. And that could be
• 48:21
  a scary thing because you see what's happening with with Milan and Red Bird.
• 48:24
  You know, we don't want that kind of, you know, ownership kind
• 48:28
  of thing to happen where now you're wondering who took over here and who's really
• 48:31
  the owner and all that stuff. Like I'm not saying it's going to mess
• 48:35
  anything up for Melan, but like you just don't want that kind of drama
• 48:37
  and that distraction at the club. And like you know, Ethan already have
• 48:40
  had enough with the Jiang family and everything that goes on with Sooning and listen,
• 48:45
  I have my my feelings towards them, but like I just don't need,
• 48:47
  I don't want more drama. You know, we had a rough year
• 48:50
  after we won the school that though, or we lost a manager, three
• 48:52
  players, and we kind of had to like refresh and kind of build it
• 48:57
  back up to where it is now. That now I'd like to have sustained
• 48:59
  sex. And I think any fan of you know, whatever club you support,
• 49:02
  that's all you want. You want sustay in success. You want to
• 49:05
  continue to be winning trophies, continue to be competitive, and then be able
• 49:08
  to grow, not just in Italy, but then you know in Europe as
• 49:12
  well, which when you got a taste of the final and we were literally
• 49:15
  so close to being able to to get that our hands on the on the
• 49:19
  big years as we like to call it, I think Anzagi is the right
• 49:23
  guy, you know, going forward, not just for for INDD in the
• 49:25
  club, but I think you know to to take us to those places.
• 49:28
  I think his style of play is actually better for Cup competitions than it is
• 49:35
  for the League. And I only mean that because he is able to listen.
• 49:38
  He knows how to counter a lot of managers. He knows how to
• 49:40
  pick their weaknesses and how to exploit it. And I think in Europe when
• 49:45
  you have teams that don't play as defensive as they do in City, yeah,
• 49:49
  it leads them more vulnerable at the back to be able to expose them
• 49:52
  on the attack and stuff like that. And and with the pace that we
• 49:53
  have with Turam and now with you know Buchanan, who I hope can really
• 49:58
  carve out some time for him start. And you got a player who's on
• 50:02
  a streak like Lottado. If he's able to carry that over in the next
• 50:06
  season, that could be another great weapon for us to just be able to
• 50:08
  continue this kind of run of Forem in Europe and hopefully be able to to
• 50:14
  get to another final and ideally win it. That's you want to be considered
• 50:17
  the best team in Europe. I mean it's more so because I feel like
• 50:22
  any Setia club doesn't get the respect outside of Italy. You know, the
• 50:25
  English they make fun of our league La Liga fans, you know, they
• 50:30
  think Setia is a joke and that all they all they know is corruption,
• 50:32
  is what they say. So like, oh, you're clearly you don't watch
• 50:36
  then, because it's it is a very good tactical league, you know.
• 50:38
  I mean when you could see a club like Bologna for example. I mean
• 50:45
  I think the casual fan, if if I wanted to introduce someone and get
• 50:49
  them not to support one of the big clubs, I would want them to
• 50:52
  watch Bologna and Haltiaga Malta play, or even maybe you know, I mean
• 50:55
  Palladino with Monza, Yes, it's not you know, they may not win
• 50:58
  the match, and it's probably more so because of the quality of the players
• 51:01
  they have, but he does have them play in a very good, structured
• 51:04
  form, and you know, it'd be I think it's it's really a disservice
• 51:10
  the way people talk about it and and don't educate themselves in watching the league.
• 51:14
  I wish more people would and I hope that you know, now with
• 51:17
  you know, de Rosie and Roma or even with what Mila I'm doing in
• 51:21
  the Europe that will bring more eyes to the league to be able to see
• 51:24
  like, Okay, it's not as bad as I thought it was. You
• 51:27
  know, there there is some talent there. There is players worth watching,
• 51:30
  you know there. I mean there's so much talent that that's going un noticed.
• 51:32
  Scala Fioti, you know, in particular, I think him and you
• 51:37
  know him ensures like I feel like, if he didn't get hurt, that
• 51:40
  could have been the best center back duo in the league. Really, Like,
• 51:44
  I mean, I don't think you could have had a better like it's
• 51:46
  yeah, it's kind of sad. Yeah, I agree, you know,
• 51:51
  so, I mean that being said, you know, yeah, I'm hoping
• 51:54
  that in Zagie is here for the long haul. There's already rumors that Liverpool
• 52:00
  was going to want to try to poach him. Now that club is stepping
• 52:01
  down after this year with them, and we'll see what happens. You know.
• 52:06
  I I hope he stays because then if that, if that door opens,
• 52:10
  then you got a potential like the three biggest clubs in Italy are going
• 52:14
  to potentially have a coaching carousel and then we're all going to be fighting for
• 52:17
  is it going to be or this guy? You know, it's a mess.
• 52:21
  It'll be crazy. Yeah, yeah, I know one thing I will
• 52:24
  say, and I've said it on the show before. I mean within Zogie,
• 52:28
  I mean I can't say I was a big fan of his when he
• 52:30
  first started. I'll be honest me, neither one thing. And yeah,
• 52:34
  imagine I'm just an opposing final I can imagine if you watch him on the
• 52:37
  touch on every week. But you know, and then just you know,
• 52:40
  all BOSTONI gets a yell card, oh I'm taking them off. This happened
• 52:46
  though, I got right like he was really known for that maybe a season
• 52:52
  or two goal and but you know he has I think evolved. I think
• 52:58
  he's uh, he's he's definitely improved. Again, I don't I still don't
• 53:01
  think he's maybe at his peak and and he obviously has stuff to improve.
• 53:07
  And I'm not still the biggest fan of him, but you have to get
• 53:09
  and give the credit where credit is due. And he hasn't improved, and
• 53:13
  he hasn't involved and he has made, you know, the steps in the
• 53:15
  right direction in terms of of you know, implementing his style and and getting
• 53:21
  you know, players on board and everybody buying in. And you know clearly
• 53:24
  this season it's it's it's really paying off. So we'll see that. That's
• 53:29
  kind of rude. The reason why I asked you that question, and jam
• 53:30
  Marco just because you know obviously you, like you said earlier, you just
• 53:36
  want you as a fan, It's it's only normal. You only want more
• 53:38
  and more and more and more more, and you want to get trophies.
• 53:42
  And you know this, this league hasn't seen a champions League winner in in
• 53:45
  in a long time, right, so you know it's who was the last
• 53:50
  Italian team to win the championship? I don't know, guys, remember name
• 53:54
  in not named inter Milan. It was it was okay, so yeah,
• 54:00
  skip two teams and it was you okay, yeah, yeah exactly, but
• 54:07
  no, no, But my point is is that you know, it's it's
• 54:09
  it's a question about you know, these are time managers taking you know,
• 54:13
  Italian teams to the next level. And that's why I was curious to see
• 54:15
  your perspectivecause we have you on tonight and just your your your opinion on Zaggie
• 54:20
  and you know it's uh, it's it's it's it's you know, something to
• 54:24
  like you said, Earl, your sustained success, I think is a big
• 54:28
  crucial point that I hope people are listened that are listening, you know,
• 54:31
  understand because you know, like you probably thought after your school detto what was
• 54:38
  it twenty twenty, no, nineteen twenty season, nineteen twenty sorry right was
• 54:43
  it? No? No, no, twenty twenty one my bad? Yeah,
• 54:46
  twenty one, twenty one bad? Yeah, yeah, only one it
• 54:49
  next year and then not pully and now this year. Right yeah, so
• 54:52
  yeah, I'm sure INTRODUCD after that time thought that it was gonna write like
• 54:58
  that sustained success was gonna continue. Obviously that didn't happen in the way that
• 55:02
  it maybe should. Have and again I'm guilty of saying the same thing about
• 55:07
  me one after they won. Right you you saw all the glory and and
• 55:09
  you know something that you have been touched in in a while, And these
• 55:15
  are both both clubs that went to the banter era right around the same time,
• 55:20
  right for about the same amount of time. It kind of brought you
• 55:23
  on that that high of saying, Okay, well now we're here, and
• 55:27
  now we're here to stay again. Unfortunately, things don't go according to plan
• 55:30
  and you're kind of still chipping away back to where you want to be.
• 55:35
  So listen, it's gonna be exciting. I think in the future for these
• 55:38
  for these top Italian clubs. I think it's just to be seen how these
• 55:43
  things, uh you know unfold going forward. UH national team they played tomorrow
• 55:51
  against uh powerhouse Venezuela team and Sunday against Here we Go. Is this guy's
• 55:59
  doing down? It's a friendly, it's a friendly. Who cares. I
• 56:04
  don't give a fuck with friendly pickup Toro Campo. I don't care. Anyways,
• 56:08
  Venezuela win. Venezuela needs to win, guys, they need to win.
• 56:13
  I don't know they have to when I don't want. I don't want
• 56:15
  like a two to one win. I don't want. You know that hasn't
• 56:19
  won in thirty fucking years. I don't care. They need to win.
• 56:22
  They need to dom My name before is yours? Next? Sort? Yeah?
• 56:27
  Venezuela on Venezuela tomorrow, Ecuador on Sunday. It's cool. It's in
• 56:30
  the States. Uh. They play at inter Miami Stadium, Chase Stadium,
• 56:34
  Chase Field, whatever it's called tomorrow, and then Red Bull Arena on Sunday.
• 56:38
  Yeah, I mean, more than anything, it's fun for the Italian
• 56:43
  Americans going. Like, you know, I'm happy for our friends who are
• 56:45
  gonna go. But I was telling John Marco before you joined the Diano,
• 56:49
  I'd rather spend the money and and go if they qualify for World Cup in
• 56:52
  two years, you know. Actually actually with forty eight teams now, they
• 56:58
  better qualify for the World Yeah. Yeah, hopefully, hopefully. But a
• 57:01
  lot of talk coming out of the Zudi camp, Spiletti saying how he wants
• 57:06
  to take inspiration from Guariola, how he wants to play modern football. Guys,
• 57:10
  what the heck, what the heck does that even mean? Just go
• 57:15
  like you try, just said, just go ahead, and win. Who
• 57:17
  who cares how you play? I'm on the camp. You know, you
• 57:22
  see people on Twitter, Oh they play beautiful football and then yeah, okay,
• 57:24
  it is fun to watch. But you could play beautiful football and ty
• 57:28
  three three, or you could play an ugly game and wine nothing. What's
• 57:30
  the better result? You know? Again gotten in his head. You know
• 57:37
  the ball. Guys stick together, right, support one another till the end.
• 57:42
  So at the end of the day you look back to Euro twenty twenty.
• 57:45
  The win, the win against Spain was ugly as hell. Spain dominated,
• 57:49
  but it'll be battled through. They succeeded winning pealies. They played better
• 57:52
  against England whatever, winning pealies. But yeah, whatever Spiletti could talk,
• 58:00
  you know at the end that you just want to see results on the field.
• 58:04
  Probably a different formation coming out. What is it? What we discussed
• 58:07
  the last time was three five three four, three four two one. That's
• 58:10
  it? Three four yeah, yeah, John Marco, what do you expect
• 58:15
  out of these two games? And what do you make of these changes?
• 58:20
  I'm hoping, I'm listen. I'm hoping we see some more rotation, you
• 58:23
  know, I want to see some of these guys. These games need nothing
• 58:25
  like, yes, we want to win, but like, let's get one
• 58:28
  Jordan in there. Let's get some of these other midfielders who don't typically start
• 58:30
  in there, because I want to see what we got like going into the
• 58:35
  Euros. Listen, call me crazy, but I really think that we can.
• 58:37
  You know, some people think that we don't have a shot. It's
• 58:39
  it's people are saying that it's going to be England. I'm not buying that.
• 58:44
  Listen, they're not They're not built for these tournaments. No offense to
• 58:47
  them, but I think that when you know the national team gets to like
• 58:52
  go under the radar is when we're the most dangerous. And I think again,
• 58:55
  once you know we're doing it again, coming under the radar and not
• 58:59
  a lot of expectation, I would like to see Vicatio, you know,
• 59:01
  from the start one game. I really think he's actually earned it. No
• 59:05
  like, no disrespect to don Aruma, but Vikati has been playing fantastic for
• 59:09
  Spurs, and I think that they would be much lower in the table had
• 59:12
  it not been for him and his ability to play, and he's much better
• 59:15
  with the ball at his feet. You know, if if Spaletti serious and
• 59:19
  he wants to play modern football. Well, then you need a goalkeeper who
• 59:21
  can play with the ball at his feet. Don Aruma is not that guy.
• 59:25
  Maybe he is better as a pure shot stopper. I know this season
• 59:29
  he's been playing great. I don't really pay attention to PSG, but just
• 59:31
  looking at the statistics, he seems to be doing really well there. But
• 59:36
  I don't really take that league seriously though. I don't think they really have,
• 59:38
  you know, strikers on a level like you see in in the EPL
• 59:43
  or SETII even you know, so I would take that with a grain of
• 59:46
  salt personally. And then we have these young defenders. You know, we
• 59:52
  look at our back line. There's rumors that the national team going into the
• 59:55
  Europe I mean before this whole thing, with that shed, it would have
• 59:59
  been that. I mean on a Chedabe and BOSTONI now, listen, I
• 1:00:02
  love Inte, but that's not the defense I want going into the Euros unfortunately,
• 1:00:07
  Like I want guys who who have pace, who are able to go
• 1:00:10
  up like you can't have a Chad to be marking a guy like like Jude
• 1:00:15
  Bellingham running up the middle, you know, being able to come in through
• 1:00:19
  the pockets. Yes, he did good against Holland and people keep pointing to
• 1:00:22
  that. My gosh, Holland is a stationary player for most of the time.
• 1:00:27
  He is not one to really just try to beat you in the channels
• 1:00:30
  and get behind you killing him. Bape will smoke you if you give him
• 1:00:34
  the time and pay, you know, space, like you need a guy
• 1:00:37
  like whether it is a Bunjo or a cala Fioti or someone who can actually
• 1:00:39
  be able to run with him. And I think that we need to see
• 1:00:42
  what we have in these young guys who have loads of potential, and we're
• 1:00:45
  seeing it in the league, but now I want to see it transit to
• 1:00:49
  Nationals. I know Calafioti wasn't a guy called up. Unfortunately they brought Mancini.
• 1:00:52
  So you're gonna get rid of one alleged racist for one confirmed one.
• 1:00:55
  I just I don't understand it, but you know, it is what it
• 1:00:59
  is. I'll let it slide this time. But Tela Fioda should not be
• 1:01:04
  with the under twenty twenty one team. And that's that's my opinion. And
• 1:01:07
  you know, I'm hoping that we see some of these other midfielders that we
• 1:01:10
  do have too to get in there and listen, you guys know, I'm
• 1:01:14
  a big mateo Retegi fan. I think he's the guy that should be the
• 1:01:16
  striker. I no offense to a mobile Skamaka. I thought that he would
• 1:01:24
  would take that next step, but I don't see it. I think he's
• 1:01:29
  too lazy. He kind of reminds me of of bottle Telli with less skill.
• 1:01:32
  You know that it just he decided he plays when he wants to.
• 1:01:36
  He doesn't really bring it every game, you know, it's I don't know,
• 1:01:40
  I don't know. Skamaka another one I wouldn't really trust, and I
• 1:01:45
  would actually would like to see if he's gonna do that too behind the one.
• 1:01:49
  You know, maybe you put Raspaloi and and Pelgrini behind Retegi and I
• 1:01:52
  think that that would be like a pretty pretty potent a tap personally. But
• 1:01:55
  we'll see what he does. I'm I'm kind of excited to see what how
• 1:01:59
  he lined them up. But hopefully we see someone, you know, some
• 1:02:01
  of these young guys get in there. Yeah no, I listn't again.
• 1:02:06
  People are gonna say, oh, international break, it's a friendly ought this
• 1:02:09
  so that me personally, guys, I don't care when when the Italian national
• 1:02:14
  team plays. I don't give. I really don't care like what it is
• 1:02:16
  like we personally get hyped, like I as much as like you hate these
• 1:02:22
  international breaks like points in the season. We all watch, we all buy,
• 1:02:28
  we all consume. It's it's you know today, I saw that,
• 1:02:34
  right, you know, the barela on the back of anybody wondering. But
• 1:02:39
  no, listen, I'm like you said, Jamaica, I'm on board with
• 1:02:44
  with the changes. I think, you know, Speletti, even though when
• 1:02:49
  Nick said, you know, he wants to take inspirasual from this and Guardiola
• 1:02:52
  that and you know, modern football, you know, beautiful game whatever,
• 1:02:57
  I don't know. I think so far, I think he said a lot
• 1:03:01
  of the right things. I think he's he's he's showing where he wants to
• 1:03:06
  take this this this national team and that that that that excites me. Right,
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  you know there's certain guys that you know, he said he wants to
• 1:03:15
  call up guys based on merit, right, that was like the big talking
• 1:03:20
  point. I think a lot of guys have been on merits. Some suspect
• 1:03:23
  still sketching your head obviously, Uh, you know two guys that started with
• 1:03:28
  a Z. You guys can fill in the rest. But Uh, it's
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  it's you know, you know, in his even in his in his pressers,
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  right, you know, he wants to he wants to put on the
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  show for you know, these these uh you know the twenty million you know
• 1:03:45
  Italians in the States, whatever the number was that he that he put out
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  there, right, he really wants to touch those, you know, Italians
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  abroad and you know from us being you know, come from Italians that you
• 1:03:54
  know are abroad. I mean, it really touches home, right, It
• 1:03:58
  means a lot obviously to us, as you know, Italian Americans in Jern
• 1:04:02
  Marco's case, Italian Canadians like ourselves. So you have to see that,
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  and I think spell it is so far, so good, but again we
• 1:04:11
  need to see it on the pitch and we need to see these changes happen.
• 1:04:15
  Sure, but like I said earlier before we segue into the Ajuri talk,
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  we need to win, We need to be dominant, We need to
• 1:04:24
  Like these are friendly games, yes, I understand that, but again you
• 1:04:27
  can't take these friendly games like they are friendly in a in a in a
• 1:04:31
  tournament year. You know we're going into the Euros, uh, you know,
• 1:04:36
  as defending champions, we need to continue to play like we're defending champions.
• 1:04:42
  You know, this is a team that didn't make the World Cup.
• 1:04:44
  Once again, how many more times are we going to have to say that
• 1:04:47
  on the show? Guys, it's it's it's it's enough. So again,
• 1:04:51
  I know it's Venezuela, I know it's Ecuador on Sunday, but I want
• 1:04:56
  to see the rotation. I want to see the the dominance. I just
• 1:05:00
  want to I just want Italy to be playing the way we all want and
• 1:05:03
  know Italy can play. So I like your points on on on the defense.
• 1:05:10
  Uh, Jamarco. Obviously I've been I've been a fan of of of
• 1:05:14
  BNO, but also Sculvini. I've liked s Calvini over these this past couple
• 1:05:18
  of years. I know he doesn't always have his best game, but I
• 1:05:23
  think those two players are are players that can produce a lot, that can
• 1:05:27
  really, you know, maybe be the backbone of the future of this national
• 1:05:31
  team. Right, So the players that I want to see get in there,
• 1:05:36
  and yeah, this this whole formation change. I think this three four
• 1:05:40
  two one. I think it's it's exciting. You mentioned Retegi up Top.
• 1:05:45
  I agree. I again, guys, I'm I've been on this the retegie
• 1:05:49
  bus call me crazy. I don't gonna fuck. He's for me. You
• 1:05:53
  have to put him up there, and I said this. I said this
• 1:05:57
  also, It's like it almost seems with with the players that we have around
• 1:06:01
  that number nine position, because we'll always be talking about who's it is number
• 1:06:08
  nine, who's literly striker, who's italy is this? It seems to be
• 1:06:11
  the running you know topic when you talk about you could throw whoever the hell
• 1:06:16
  you want up there. I think the surrounding pieces are are a bit more
• 1:06:20
  crucial in terms of who can get that number nine the ball. Obviously,
• 1:06:25
  you want your number nine to to to be able to play out, you
• 1:06:28
  know, you know, play off, play off the defense, get behind
• 1:06:31
  the defense. You'll find those pockets of space, you know, back to
• 1:06:33
  goal or you know, you know, maybe you know, really attacking those
• 1:06:36
  those those defensive lines. But I think you throw up anybody there. But
• 1:06:43
  with the correct surrounding pieces, I think it can work because you know,
• 1:06:46
  career we saw that in the Euros. Right, do we have an out
• 1:06:50
  again? I don't like the mobile a slander personally, that's my opinion.
• 1:06:56
  Everybody has their own, and that's fine because Toots as as as As has
• 1:07:00
  been a polting goal scorer almost his entire career. Obviously later stages as he's
• 1:07:06
  really popped off in that department, but never was able to really do it
• 1:07:10
  in the on the national team. I get it. I understand the slander
• 1:07:13
  for me is it's enough of that. But you know, he was able
• 1:07:17
  to do his part, but the surrounding pieces were able to also do their
• 1:07:20
  part and really take this team to the next level as well. So I'm
• 1:07:25
  excited because I think if he does, if Paletti does go with his three
• 1:07:29
  four two one, those two behind the striker are very interchangeable. Guys.
• 1:07:34
  I don't know if you have what your guys opinions are. I know,
• 1:07:38
  obviously jam said, uh, Pegdori that's one, right, that's one,
• 1:07:44
  that's one alternative, right, you know, Pelgrini or Salini like you know,
• 1:07:50
  these are these are very interchangeable. I think, you know. I
• 1:07:56
  don't know. I'm just I'm excited for for tomorrow, for for Sunday,
• 1:08:00
  and obviously going into a tournament year we got said so much joy last time
• 1:08:04
  around that I kind of just want to feel that that joy again. But
• 1:08:10
  yeah, guys, is there any is there any I guess I'll what ranser
• 1:08:14
  first, But is there any position or position group that you're that you're that
• 1:08:17
  you're worried about MCO in terms of uh, you know where you see we're
• 1:08:23
  lacking the most if if you if you could say any any position group,
• 1:08:29
  I mean when you when you look at the twenty eight guys that he's bringing,
• 1:08:31
  I would say maybe the midfielders. You know what I mean? Yeah,
• 1:08:35
  it's I mean, we don't know how these guys are gonna perform together.
• 1:08:44
  Yes, there's names I like. I mean, I mean to me,
• 1:08:46
  like with it gonna be for like I would personally I would want to
• 1:08:50
  see Lo and Barella together. I think that they would they would work.
• 1:08:55
  But then what what happens? Then what happens if you gotta sell wan out?
• 1:09:00
  You know we also got that kid? What is it a full of
• 1:09:02
  ruin show? Right right? If you'll be the you know, exciting,
• 1:09:10
  yeah, like I mean, but but I don't know what to expect.
• 1:09:13
  I guess is what I'm going with with that one? You know, and
• 1:09:15
  then you got and you know that no offense to Georgino. I'm kind of
• 1:09:19
  tired of of of you getting called up. I think it's time to bring
• 1:09:24
  bring somebody else in and allow someone else to have their their their moment,
• 1:09:28
  you know, especially given I hope that if he, if he does play,
• 1:09:31
  then he never takes a penalty again for us, because I can't do
• 1:09:35
  that little hop skip stuff anymore. You don't, you've missed your last.
• 1:09:40
  What is it for for for the national team? You know, bonavent Duda,
• 1:09:45
  I think is there on merit. You know, I think he's had
• 1:09:46
  a fantastic year with with Fiorentina. He's very deserving. But but again another
• 1:09:53
  guy who's a little bit on on on the latter stages of his career.
• 1:09:56
  So I'm a little a little curious to see what he's gonna do with that,
• 1:10:00
  if he's gonna do like a lot of heavy rotation, if he's not
• 1:10:01
  even gonna like I thought Pelgony would be better up front, especially given the
• 1:10:05
  way that he has been playing with with Roma this year, or now that
• 1:10:09
  you know Mordinho's gone. So yeah, I mean, I think the position
• 1:10:14
  I'm most excited about is actually really our wing backs. You know, I
• 1:10:17
  think there would it'd be really cool to see maybe this first game, you
• 1:10:20
  know, U DOGI and maybe Beleanova, you know, left and right,
• 1:10:24
  and then maybe the next game you got you know, Di Marco and came.
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  Yeah. So you know, I think that that could be like a
• 1:10:29
  real weapon for us. I'm fans of all four of those guys. I
• 1:10:34
  don't have really whoever he wants to put in whatever games, I don't,
• 1:10:39
  I don't. I don't think it'll be a mistake. I think it'll be
• 1:10:42
  fun though, given our lack of pace to let Beleanova maybe get that first
• 1:10:45
  one and your DOGI on the other side, and you got like guys with
• 1:10:49
  really quick quick movement to be able to uh to get it in behind defenders
• 1:10:55
  and and maybe even free of space for your attackers, you know, and
• 1:10:58
  they can both cross. So then you got a guy like who's a pretty
• 1:11:01
  good target man up front. I think that that could be a weapon,
• 1:11:03
  you know, But we'll see. I'm I'm I'm genuinely I think this is
• 1:11:08
  the most excited I've been for the national team since the last Euros. I
• 1:11:12
  mean in the sense that I like the players that we're bringing, and I
• 1:11:15
  feel like there could be like a lot of a lot of growth there and
• 1:11:17
  in some of these young guys who are finally getting a chance. Yeah,
• 1:11:23
  it'll be interesting. I mean, it's friendly, so there's gonna be a
• 1:11:27
  lot of subs like that, might be guys playing forty five minutes, you
• 1:11:30
  know. Yeah, it it's just they have what two three and these two
• 1:11:40
  games and then another two one or two friendlies before the Euros, so there's
• 1:11:44
  not a lot of time. So there's guys that are on the edge of,
• 1:11:46
  you know, making the team. This is their chance to prove themselves.
• 1:11:50
  Obviously, you know they're they're also proving themselves in the city, but
• 1:11:54
  that's also why they've got in this call up. So yeah, it's gonna
• 1:11:59
  be interesting. I mean, for me, what I'm most interested is to
• 1:12:04
  see Kasa because these past four or five months, it's all been oh ruining
• 1:12:11
  kisas ruining Kisa. It's a coach this, and that's his positioning. But
• 1:12:15
  guys, I watch you a week in and week out, and and Kiza
• 1:12:17
  he has good flashes. Don't get me wrong, he has good flashes.
• 1:12:20
  But there's just something missing there and is it? Is it the coach?
• 1:12:26
  I don't think so, Honestly, I don't think so. I've talked about
• 1:12:28
  that on the podcast. He he doesn't pass the ball a lot, shut
• 1:12:33
  up or you know, he's very selfish with the ball. So it'll be
• 1:12:36
  interesting to see what he does in a different system, you know, in
• 1:12:40
  a system in which he is closer to the striker. Uh what what's that
• 1:12:45
  going to mean? You know what, Watch if he scores one goal or
• 1:12:47
  gets an assist, everyone's gonna be like, oh, it's it's the coach,
• 1:12:50
  it's a coach. No no, no. But then if he doesn't
• 1:12:53
  play well, all the AL fans all see it's Gayza. But I honestly
• 1:12:58
  think for him this is almost make to break it. Like he has his
• 1:13:01
  spot in the team. He does come to the Euros as long as he's
• 1:13:05
  healthy Jrmarco, he probably doesn't. I don't know, spot, I love
• 1:13:14
  it. I see. I see the way you go at it with some
• 1:13:16
  of the UA fans about yes, listen, I know mostly control. But
• 1:13:23
  I agree with you honestly, like, I, yeah, go ahead.
• 1:13:30
  I think he has to fight for his starting his starting position because you know,
• 1:13:35
  with the twenty six guys going, it's hard to not have him there
• 1:13:39
  if he's healthy, you know, especially in the depth that we have forward.
• 1:13:43
  But right now, I don't know if he's a starter. I don't
• 1:13:45
  know if he's starting tomorrow. I don't know. I mean well, I
• 1:13:48
  literally do not know if he's starting tomorrow. But we'll see, we'll see.
• 1:13:53
  He has to prove himself straight up. Yeah, I don't think.
• 1:13:57
  I don't think there's anybody that it's the red carpet, uh in terms of
• 1:14:01
  these in terms of these players. Obviously, again this is like we said
• 1:14:04
  earlier, the friendlies. You know, there's there's certain guys that are called
• 1:14:09
  up like that you're probably maybe sketching your head about. Obviously, there's still
• 1:14:14
  time to work it in. You know. Jamaica mentioned Skamaka not even included
• 1:14:16
  into the into the call up list. For me a frustrating player because I
• 1:14:20
  think he has all the tools in terms of you know, the measurables,
• 1:14:26
  the uh, the ability when he wants, but it's it's it's you.
• 1:14:31
  You know he's been scoring a bit. Wait wait sure, I do see
• 1:14:34
  that, but again it's maybe the consistency, the mentality a bit. I
• 1:14:40
  don't know. So things like that frustrate me because I think he should be
• 1:14:45
  included into this, into this, into this mix, and I would like
• 1:14:48
  to see him in a tournament. But you know, he has to be
• 1:14:53
  fully on board. He has to be there mentally, and and and again,
• 1:14:56
  like even a Kisa. And you know we've said on the podcast before
• 1:15:00
  and again, Nick doesn't think that you know, like has impacted him.
• 1:15:03
  I do think a bit he has personally, not to the point where people
• 1:15:09
  are saying, oh, it's only this guy's fault. There's only that guy's
• 1:15:12
  fault. This guy, you know, pretty devastating the injury, right,
• 1:15:15
  It's it's not something easy to come back from. It's these types of injuries
• 1:15:19
  that like you're almost never the same once you come back, and you really
• 1:15:24
  have to, you know, really work hard to try to get as close
• 1:15:27
  as you can to what you want what you want to were. And obviously
• 1:15:31
  people have in terms of talking about the national team, obviously people have our
• 1:15:36
  whole kids in a high regard just because of what he did. Obviously,
• 1:15:40
  you know, a year of twenty twenty. So but again, you guys
• 1:15:45
  are right, I think, you know, no player, like I think
• 1:15:47
  he has to earn it just like everybody else does. I don't. I
• 1:15:53
  don't, like I said, I don't see anybody really getting the red carpet
• 1:15:56
  treatment in terms of yeah, you're like, yeah, you might think you're
• 1:16:00
  like to ourselves, right, Oh yeah, this players a lot, players
• 1:16:02
  a lot, but still at the end of the day, they still have
• 1:16:03
  to prove it. They still have to they stove to earn it. You
• 1:16:06
  know, this is this is you know, a heavy shirt to wear and
• 1:16:12
  and it's your shirt that means a lot and and it's a shirt that you
• 1:16:15
  know holds a lot of history, uh and and a lot of and a
• 1:16:18
  lot of a lot of success. Even though there's been a lot of recent
• 1:16:20
  failures, there's obviously a lot of success behind this shirt. So you have
• 1:16:26
  to you have to earn your right to to wear this shirt. And I
• 1:16:29
  think so, but surely Spalletti's kind of ingraining that mentality back into these into
• 1:16:34
  these players, into uh, into being a called up and then be you
• 1:16:41
  know, getting minutes and then you know, see maybe potentially you know,
• 1:16:43
  earning their spot on a on a europe on a euro squad. So you
• 1:16:48
  know, I know we've been talking a bit about you know, different players
• 1:16:50
  and formations and this and that, but Jamark, maybe like before we wrap
• 1:16:55
  this up, maybe like your ideal, your ideal, like we're gonna stick
• 1:17:00
  with the three four to two one. But anyway, maybe an ideal lineup,
• 1:17:04
  maybe not that we want to see tomorrow, but maybe just in general
• 1:17:08
  with this, with this new formation change potentially that we might see with what's
• 1:17:11
  Paletti. Yeah, I mean, if let's say we're talking about the Euros
• 1:17:16
  like not so much this game, like what I would want in general,
• 1:17:20
  Yeah, yeah, like I would, I would, I would want Vicadio
• 1:17:23
  in net personally. OK, if I'm starting my three center backs, I'm
• 1:17:28
  probably going with I'm probably going Scalvini, bon Giorno and Bostoni as my three
• 1:17:36
  my wing backs, I'll go with Di Marco. And I'll say, this
• 1:17:45
  is the thing that's tough because I don't know if they're gonna use the Lorenzo
• 1:17:47
  as a right wing back or if they want him to play more of a
• 1:17:50
  center back. I think that he should be a center back, and I
• 1:17:56
  would rather see somebody else. Like I'm a big Andrea Cambiaso fan. I
• 1:17:59
  would Cambiaso left and right, and then you could have you know, you
• 1:18:03
  Dodgy and and and Beanova off the bench, you know, because I will,
• 1:18:06
  I will see. But I think that Spaletti will do kind of what
• 1:18:11
  Inzagi does, where like the first guys off for the wing backs, so
• 1:18:14
  then at least you have those guys off the bench, and then with the
• 1:18:16
  two midfielders, I would go probably yeah Localianbarella and then the two behind the
• 1:18:24
  striker. Right now, I'll say, listen, I'm not I'm not Kiez's
• 1:18:31
  biggest fan. I think it's more so his fan boys that kind of turned
• 1:18:35
  me on on Quieza really, like I didn't have a problem with him,
• 1:18:39
  but they they hype him up like he's the greatest Italian player ever. And
• 1:18:45
  I'm sorry, like we we've had legends like the Piero Totti and Vieri and
• 1:18:48
  Baggio on this team, you know, like one one good you know Euros.
• 1:18:54
  Doesn't mean that he's all of a sudden like better than those guys,
• 1:18:56
  in my opinion, honestly, is no offense. He doesn't shine, he
• 1:19:02
  doesn't shine any of those issues. He doesn't tie those guys shoes. Sorry,
• 1:19:06
  but people treat him like he like he does and it's like, you
• 1:19:10
  know, and no, like Spinazzola was probably the best player of the tournament
• 1:19:13
  really until he got hurt, Like would we be talking about Kiza. If
• 1:19:15
  Sinazola even gets hurt, probably not. To be quite honest, yes,
• 1:19:18
  he had some good moments. I'm not going to take that away from him.
• 1:19:21
  But it's it's just I don't see it. And and you know,
• 1:19:26
  I kind of agree with Nick, like he just there's I watched some UB
• 1:19:30
  games and it is difficult to watch. So, I mean, you guys
• 1:19:33
  are fans, I understand why you watch, but like if you're not a
• 1:19:36
  fan and you just want to watch SETI, it is hard to watch them
• 1:19:40
  play sometimes and you could blame, you could blame legally. I'm not his
• 1:19:45
  biggest fan. I think he's a lot of his tactics are are antiquated,
• 1:19:48
  and I don't think he I'm not expecting him to turn into you know whatever,
• 1:19:55
  Well, I just want blank on on what the all out or anything,
• 1:19:58
  but I expect you to have a little bit more of an attacking mindset
• 1:20:01
  in certain aspects. Yes, once you have that lead, I could I
• 1:20:04
  you know, listen, if if inter went thirty eight and oh and we
• 1:20:08
  won all our games one nil, I would be okay with that. And
• 1:20:11
  if it was like ugly football that doesn't winning one nothing isn't doesn't have to
• 1:20:15
  be pretty, but I do think, you know, to get that goal,
• 1:20:18
  it does have to be a little bit of art to it, and
• 1:20:20
  I feel like he doesn't really have that. He's lucky that he has players
• 1:20:25
  who can rely on some moments of brilliance. But I'm not the biggest fan
• 1:20:28
  of Kieza and even Vlaovic personally. I think that I don't think it's all
• 1:20:32
  on allegedy. I think it's a little bit of a mixture of the of
• 1:20:34
  the both. Really, so Kieza would not be starting for me, and
• 1:20:40
  then I listen. It may not be a popular opinion. People may want
• 1:20:44
  other guys, but I think that teg is and I don't say this lightly.
• 1:20:48
  I think that he's another mouth of Ecardi in terms of his ability to
• 1:20:54
  be a fox in the box, and I think his finishing is not at
• 1:20:57
  the level of Ecardy, but he could be there. Like he's he's a
• 1:21:00
  fantastic goal scorer, and I think that if you you you have a player
• 1:21:03
  who can be like that a little in good movement in the box and knows
• 1:21:06
  when to make the runs at the right time. Like I don't think he
• 1:21:11
  was an accident that when his first two games he scored two goals, you
• 1:21:14
  know, and I think that he could be like a real, real legit
• 1:21:18
  threat for us going forward. And I just hope that that he gets those
• 1:21:23
  opportunities because the guy's a weapon any any any and he seems hungry, which
• 1:21:27
  I like, you know, you want to make an impression for the national
• 1:21:29
  team and I and I think that he he almost has a little bit of
• 1:21:31
  a chip on his shoulder one because I don't think he was getting there the
• 1:21:35
  call ups from the obviously the Argentinian national team, Italy wanted him. They
• 1:21:40
  welcomed in with open I mean, he is part Italian, and I think
• 1:21:43
  now he's like I got something to proved to those guys. You know.
• 1:21:45
  Yes, he didn't win the World Cup obviously and they did. But I
• 1:21:48
  think that he wants to show like you missed out on me being the next
• 1:21:50
  you know, big striker up front. So hopefully hopefully he can do that
• 1:21:55
  with us. All said, but uh, I think that'll do it for
• 1:22:03
  tonight, guys. I'm excited for tomorrow. I don't know what Chandle it's
• 1:22:06
  on in Canada. I'll be honest, I don't know how to watch it.
• 1:22:11
  I don't in the US, but not on FOO in Canada? So
• 1:22:15
  uh is it on t M or No? I saw t l N for
• 1:22:20
  the Sunday game. I would have seen and also for tomorrow wars Man.
• 1:22:28
  It's it's different. It's different in Canada US. I mean Canada, we
• 1:22:32
  have Premier League City on it like it's fine. We got to be in
• 1:22:35
  sports part of it. Yeah, we don't have We don't have it all
• 1:22:39
  up. Yeah, you have to get like five different packages and then you
• 1:22:42
  have just to get the international games. It's it's grazy. Yeah, there
• 1:22:45
  you go. But John Marco, thank you so much again for joining us.
• 1:22:48
  Where can people find you and your podcast on social media? Yeah,
• 1:22:55
  no, I'm listening. If you want to follow me on on Twitter,
• 1:22:57
  it's at Sauce g MP. That's from my soccer playing days. And you
• 1:23:03
  know, we me and my my co host Alessandro, we have the interviews
• 1:23:08
  podcasts where we just talk pretty much everything inted. Very rarely do we dive
• 1:23:12
  into the rest of said Yah. We leave that up to you guys to
• 1:23:14
  to be able to handle you know, those big shoes and yeah, we're
• 1:23:18
  you know, if you want to follow that, it's probably easier to follow
• 1:23:21
  it by following me because it's in you know, I got the link in
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  my bio and stuff, and just explaining it would be a bit of a
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  headache. Yeah, it's Interviews Underscore pod with like a zero instead of a
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  oh because somebody had it. But yeah, that's that's where you can find
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  us, and we're on every every podcast platform, Apple, Google, well
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  Google's going away, but Spotify, whatever else you may use. So yeah,
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  check it out. No, guys, definitely the new show like New
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  Ish in terms of in terms of people, you know, creating content in
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  the podcasting world, I would say, but definitely, uh, you know,
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  two good people behind the behind the show and and really producing quality content
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  on a weekly basis, which you know, just fans of this league,
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  uh, you know, and and fans of of of the content that's been
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  put out. It's it's amazing to see. So guys, definitely go give
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  them a follow, even if you're no, but even if you're not an
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  inter fan, right because I say it a lot, but you know,
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  uh, people that produced you know, clubs specific content. I think it's
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  still important for other fans too, you know, support to go and and
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  listen or watch or or share or like whatever it may be, because I
• 1:24:39
  think it just it broadens your It broadens your your horizon a bit, it
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  broadens maybe your opinion. You kind of get to see and and and have
• 1:24:48
  the camarditi of meeting obviously new people, uh in these types of spaces.
• 1:24:53
  So no, definitely, definitely guys will get these guys a follow interviews pod,
• 1:24:59
  I mean sold you guys up to now. I saw it. We
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  forget we just we just did seventy six tonight, So seventy six so roll
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  to one hundred for the guys in Blocking Blue. So guys, give them
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  a follow, like like I said, And I don't think you'll be disappointed
• 1:25:16
  because the conversations are great. I know you guys got some guests in the
• 1:25:20
  past. Yeah, you were unfortunately too busy for for some of the derby
• 1:25:27
  games. We've been trying to to get you, but hopefully the next one
• 1:25:30
  we'll get you on. So yeah, no ammonia ammonia message away, but
• 1:25:33
  we'll definitely make it work for for for the future. That's that's that's a
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  guarantee, one way, one way or another. So yeah, guys,
• 1:25:41
  go follow them, like we say every week for us follow us at the
• 1:25:44
  culture guys Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, all that good stuff,
• 1:25:47
  guys. Subscribe on YouTube for for all video clips and and and video podcasts.
• 1:25:57
  Again, still do on that on that aspect of thing in terms of
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  YouTube. But subscribe post notifications, you know, like share it. It's
• 1:26:03
  all that good stuff. Continue to do it, guys. And for all
• 1:26:06
  the audio versions of the podcast on all your favorite podcasting platforms. And uh
• 1:26:13
  yeah, just to sum it all up again, we started off the show
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  with with command. Uh. You know, we're sending our our love and
• 1:26:18
  condolences to to the on the family. Uh. And and we'll end the
• 1:26:23
  show I think as well by by by saying that just a huge loss in
• 1:26:28
  the in the Italian in the Italian Sadia community and just in the Italian football.
• 1:26:34
  Again, we we send our well wishes to and our condolences to to
• 1:26:39
  Joe butt on his family, gone way, way way too soon today.
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  Like we said earlier, fiftyeth would have been his fiftieth birthday. So everybody
• 1:26:48
  puts a lot of things into perspective. You know, we're grateful enough to
• 1:26:51
  do, you know, this show and and and spread the love of culture
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  every week. And you know it's uh, it's nothing's ever I guarantee in
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  life. So again to to Fiorentina, to the commissios, to to the
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  guys that I have TV that I know are close to him in Brooklyn,
• 1:27:10
  everybody, his loved ones, Joe Bartoni, he will definitely be missed and
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  yeah, wrest in peace and we'll be back next week to talk about more
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  cultural h Thanks so se jure Y