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#244 Crimes At The Breakfast Buffet! · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

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  Speaker 1: I just looked at my right then and I saw
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  Speaker 1: a very lovely picture of two beautiful women.
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  Speaker 2: It's us. It's good to be back in the studio again.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like I never left. I went quick, two quick?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have it?
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  Speaker 1: Though?
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  Speaker 2: No pay anything?
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  Speaker 1: This is it? Could you see? We're where to go?
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  Speaker 2: That's that's Welcome back to two doting dads.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Maddie Jay and I'm Ash.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a podcast all about parenting.
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  Speaker 1: It is the good, it is the bad and the and.
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  Speaker 2: We will never ever not even if our lives depended
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  Speaker 2: on it, give advice, no chance, thank you, no thank you,
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  Speaker 2: nothing relevant anyway. Hey, welcome back post holidays.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, first of all, that's for all your parents out there.
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  Speaker 2: Also for the parents who didn't go away. I think
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  Speaker 2: they deserve a bigger applause, yourself included. Yeah, thank you,
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  Speaker 2: that is directed at you.
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  Speaker 1: It's although today it's a pup of free day, so
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  Speaker 1: well done for tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: The finish line is insight.
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  Speaker 1: It is so close. Like the last days, they're so ratty.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you run out of things to do for them.
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  Speaker 1: My kids are just like they're like I'm bored. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: why don't we give you toys to other kids? That'll
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  Speaker 1: be fun. They're like, oh, I'll play with them, sucker.
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  Speaker 2: Like I did feel guilty. I was, of course away
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  Speaker 2: in Bali and in the group chat, I was sending
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  Speaker 2: my holiday pictures and Vic is still away. Is in Vietnam,
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  Speaker 2: of all places, still there. And a little update from
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  Speaker 2: her this morning. Lost their camera. That's going to be
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  Speaker 2: so bad. She believes she may have left it on
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  Speaker 2: the planes. If anyone is flying in Vietnam, Champagnes on
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  Speaker 2: that fly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah fuck.
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  Speaker 2: Actually Ash and I were talking, were like, did see
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  Speaker 2: her stories last night? And she was having a couple
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  Speaker 2: of cocktails.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the messages like it was such a day.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give a proper update on Barley kind of you're
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  Speaker 2: chomping to hear about my holiday.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear about all the fun things
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  Speaker 1: you did.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I don't want to just going to get that wound,
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  Speaker 2: open it up, put a little bit of salt in there.
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  Speaker 2: But that's for Wednesday's episode. Yes, we should also say
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  Speaker 2: a little hello to Lockeyeh, where'd you go from? He's
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  Speaker 2: come from life on Cat but also he's been working
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  Speaker 2: with us for a little while helping out with our videos.
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  Speaker 2: He's now the new VIC.
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  Speaker 1: For this week. This week, don't worry, we can't afford him.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I can't afford it. He's very expensive. The headcount
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  Speaker 2: for this podcast growing, there's more.
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  Speaker 1: People than Dad's. So Vick will be back next week.
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  Speaker 1: That's good to hear.
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  Speaker 2: Look, there are two things that I want to talk about,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't want to be a one trick pony
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  Speaker 2: and just talk about the holiday for the next two weeks. However,
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  Speaker 2: it's all.
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  Speaker 1: I've got right now. It's called memories, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to I'm reliving the trip through you.
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  Speaker 2: Two things I want to talk about. Firstly, I hate
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  Speaker 2: to attack any group of individuals.
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  Speaker 1: This is directed to me, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, you are I identify as
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  Speaker 2: a group individuals. You were safe, Thank you. The group
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  Speaker 2: I want to attack that. The group I have a
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  Speaker 2: problem with. Oh god, both elbows on the table. Is serious.
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  Speaker 2: They're nonnas. Okay, I've got a problem with the nonners
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  Speaker 2: of this country.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about Italian grandmother's.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think they were Italian. I'm pretty sure she
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  Speaker 2: had the little stumpy walk like. That's all you need.
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  Speaker 2: She had a bottle of pasta.
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  Speaker 1: Was she consistently in awe of all the concrete she
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  Speaker 1: was watering the concrete. Okay, of course she was.
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  Speaker 2: Baby Jesus statues around like, well, look, we got to
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  Speaker 2: the airport and we're flying out to BALI. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure Ash if you saw what I hosted, but we
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  Speaker 2: had some uniforms from costumes for Marley and Lola. They
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  Speaker 2: were the air hostess uniforms. I did see that for corners.
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  Speaker 1: He kept that under wraps.
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  Speaker 2: Thought you would have talked to me about that before.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, April was like, did you know about this?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, not about what about? What?
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  Speaker 1: This is news to me?
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  Speaker 2: She's like, where did you get I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean I didn't think. I showed them to
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  Speaker 2: Marley and Lola. This is before we flew out, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, look, this is pretty cute, and they
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  Speaker 2: were like, we're wearing that on the plane and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, if you want to, like sure, and they
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  Speaker 2: were parted. They had their hair slipped back, they got
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  Speaker 2: the lipstick on. I was like ready to fucking clock
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  Speaker 2: them in and start a ship. And so we parked
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  Speaker 2: the car. We're walking to departures and we get in
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  Speaker 2: an elevator. Ash, I'm familiar with the concept. Who was
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  Speaker 2: in the elevator the captain Alona. Okay, okay, and I'm listening.
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  Speaker 2: Lola is someone who I think isn't aware that she
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  Speaker 2: puts herself in a situation where she's going to get attention.
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  Speaker 2: She was like, oh, that outfits great, like cool, end
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  Speaker 2: of I don't think she understood what that would then.
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  Speaker 1: The knock on effect of that, which is people gonna
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  Speaker 1: ask questions.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So we're all cramming to this elevator. There is
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  Speaker 2: a family with a non it's not as a single
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  Speaker 2: Nona by herself. And so we get on in the elevator
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  Speaker 2: and Lola is standing in a way where she's like
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  Speaker 2: next to the nana, and the nanna is just like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, look at these little beautiful babies. And
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  Speaker 2: she's like it gives Lola a hug, and she's like
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  Speaker 2: and kisses her in the forehead. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: but it was like a beautiful Nona. I couldn't be like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: she could have been in fuck off, touch my children. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but it was like it was very brief and the
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  Speaker 2: Nana was just, you know, just doing what nanas dove
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  Speaker 2: And then we get out of the elevator and they
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  Speaker 2: walk off like okay, bye, like have you guys have
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  Speaker 2: a good trip. And Lola's just like.
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck just happened? And she was like what
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  Speaker 1: did you do something? And I was like what do
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  Speaker 1: you mean? She's like, who the fuck was that? It's
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  Speaker 1: such an awkward situation.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like in a moment where there's Nana thinks
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  Speaker 2: that she's just being a loving grandma giving some affection
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  Speaker 2: to a young child that she doesn't know. You don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be the one who goes back the fuck off, lady,
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  Speaker 2: get away from my fucking kids.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you start with one, not non of then what
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  Speaker 1: you just move on to the next one.
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  Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden you're just like, kid, I've
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  Speaker 2: got the Nana's with pitchforks at my house being like.
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  Speaker 1: Let us touch our children. The problem is I've with
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  Speaker 1: this go on is the country and the region of origin.
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  Speaker 1: They're very kissy.
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  Speaker 3: They are.
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  Speaker 1: They're very kissy Europeans in general. The doubles like it's sprints, germs,
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  Speaker 1: It's okay, It's un hygienia. COVID would have been way less.
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  Speaker 2: I actually like I lived with when.
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  Speaker 1: I lived in London, I lived with.
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  Speaker 2: The Spanish guy Sergio, and he fucked me in the mornings.
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  Speaker 2: He used to wake up and be like hello and
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  Speaker 2: if you're right my face and I pull away and
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  Speaker 2: he'd be like, what are you doing today? That's a
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  Speaker 2: terrible accent, that's pretty good? Am I going to get
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  Speaker 2: canceled from there? Should we take that out?
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  Speaker 1: Nah?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? And he like, they're just very in your face,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, just I haven't brushed my teethio relaxed,
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  Speaker 2: and neither of you said face. But afterwards I was like,
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  Speaker 2: how should I have handled that situation? Like how do
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  Speaker 2: you politely tell Anna who's completely unaware that she's behaving
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  Speaker 2: in a way that's kind of inappropriate Considering it's a
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  Speaker 2: child that you have no idea connection with.
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  Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot you can do because you
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  Speaker 1: can't preempt they're going to do that. To be fair,
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  Speaker 1: kids are short. Nona's pretty short, so they kind of
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  Speaker 1: maybe like are too fast for you to stop?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a little one, You're better off after it's done,
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  Speaker 2: being like you're going to catch it. Whatever my kid's got,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to catch it. So I don't think they're
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  Speaker 2: not as care they're instructible. They're like they're like seventy,
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  Speaker 2: they're like fuck it. But then when we got into
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  Speaker 2: the departures and we're trying to find, you know, our
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  Speaker 2: check in area, Lola was like she's coming back because
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  Speaker 2: it was coming through it. And I was like, get
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  Speaker 2: behind me. And it was like, you know, wild dog
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  Speaker 2: was coming to attack your children, and I was like
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  Speaker 2: they're ready. Yeah, I was like kick this. But then
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  Speaker 2: everyone was like looking at Marley Lola and be like
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  Speaker 2: look at these beautiful children. And Lola was like, gut
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  Speaker 2: it up me and I was like, you should try
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  Speaker 2: to kissing them.
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  Speaker 1: It's really good.
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  Speaker 2: So I just want to say, I look, if you
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  Speaker 2: are a nonna listening to this episode, and I'm sorry
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  Speaker 2: to say this, I don't want to be the bearer
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  Speaker 2: of bad news here, but you've got to stop kissing
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  Speaker 2: kids that aren't yours. You've got to say that, And like,
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  Speaker 2: I think that needs to be a message that we
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  Speaker 2: should put out there.
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  Speaker 1: Need to be though, Like it's just they've got no
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  Speaker 1: self awareness.
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  Speaker 2: No self awareness. They love the kids love your own
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  Speaker 2: grandchildren don't love mine.
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  Speaker 1: I mean if I walked around kissing kids, it'd be
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  Speaker 1: a fucking crime. Well literally if you.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a thing, like you're the nonas for so long,
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  Speaker 2: I've gotten away with it.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm more of all scared the kids off sort
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  Speaker 1: of vibe kids excuse rat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think someone someone's got to put the nanas
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  Speaker 2: in line. And I don't even know if she was
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  Speaker 2: Italian or not.
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  Speaker 1: And they also like they might do something like that.
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  Speaker 1: And then you're like, oh, it's completely fine, it's completely fine.
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  Speaker 1: It's like just it's not fine. It's not touch my kid.
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  Speaker 2: Let alone with your lips. And Lola was like, defend
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  Speaker 2: me next time you prick. I was like, sorry, next time,
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  Speaker 2: I'll leave you there. But second thing I want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about, and I know that I get hung up
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  Speaker 2: on seats on a plane. Yeah, that's your thing, that's
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  Speaker 2: your hobby. If there's one thing that gives me anxiety,
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  Speaker 2: it's selecting seats for the family on a fly.
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  Speaker 1: It must feel so good when it pays off, like
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  Speaker 1: the right choice pays off.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, the best part of the trip the flight. So
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  Speaker 2: the issue was do you want the bowlhead and non bulkhead.
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  Speaker 2: For those of you who aren't up to speed with
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  Speaker 2: the lingo of the airline industry, the bulkhead is the
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  Speaker 2: end of economy one step further. You're a business.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you're not quite there.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to be as close to business as possible.
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  Speaker 2: I fucking could smell it. I was like, that's lamb,
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  Speaker 2: that's good with Oh my god, it's silver aware. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, I mean there, I belong here.
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  Speaker 1: He's sitting on someone's lap.
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  Speaker 2: But the extra leg room that is a.
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  Speaker 1: Godsend for people who are tall, like six six to
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  Speaker 1: you're sick one and a half one and a half.
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  Speaker 1: But like Lockie's like, what six twelve is he seven
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  Speaker 1: foot's Scottish giant.
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  Speaker 2: But I think when you're with an infant, Poppy is
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  Speaker 2: always ten months. We had the bass in it had
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  Speaker 2: the option of the bassinet, but she wasn't sleeping at all,
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  Speaker 2: Like she's not going to sleep in a bast it's
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  Speaker 2: too well.
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  Speaker 1: The first time on a plane, but no, no, it's
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  Speaker 1: not someone on international flight. It's exciting.
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  Speaker 2: You just got that extra room to like put the
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  Speaker 2: carry on. You can cut some laps, bob up.
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  Speaker 1: And down not hindered to get out because there is
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  Speaker 1: that like, the only thing hindering is your family.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the downside is long way to walk to
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  Speaker 2: the toilets. Yeah, okay, but it's the business. I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to who's that jacuzzi? I wanted to. But then I think,
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  Speaker 2: like the best part of all on the flight back
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  Speaker 2: overnight flight red eye flight from Balley ten thirty departure,
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  Speaker 2: it's tough. That's the fucking dumbest fly. It's tough. But
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  Speaker 2: then the kids were like, hang on a second, where's
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  Speaker 2: our fucking screens? Everyone's got screens? When we have screens?
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  Speaker 2: And I wanted the kids to fall asleep straight away
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  Speaker 2: because I was like.
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  Speaker 1: You don't get one.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh they're broken, they're not here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, why would you do that?
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  Speaker 2: And then Laura was like, yeah, I actually like to
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  Speaker 2: push the button. I was like, I hit it, like
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  Speaker 2: like I hit a on.
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  Speaker 1: You guys got to be on the same page.
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  Speaker 2: And the kids are like, oh, there's no screens, like sorry,
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  Speaker 2: and no, I guess we'll sleep, And I was like
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  Speaker 2: I guess you will and fell asleep straight away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. See, that's the thing with that flight. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like the intention is to go, oh, kids will sleep
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  Speaker 1: on it, kids will sleep. It's not time. But a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the time at backfires because they're also overtied.
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  Speaker 1: They're fucking were the time we moved from that flight
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  Speaker 1: to the day flight back from Bali game changer.
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  Speaker 2: See, although, because that's the activity for the day. But
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  Speaker 2: then how did you go with the time difference? Because
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  Speaker 2: the only good thing was because that was so they
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  Speaker 2: got you know, they got four or five hours sleep
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  Speaker 2: going to bed the next night.
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  Speaker 1: Nah. So see you fly out there at like eleven
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  Speaker 1: thirty am.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 1: And by the time I walk in my front door
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  Speaker 1: it is like eight pm and the kids go in
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  Speaker 1: the shower, into bed. Seat he later, because that day
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  Speaker 1: is the activity is the floor out of them.
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  Speaker 2: And then you're like, April's got, as we know, so
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  Speaker 2: fucking organized.
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  Speaker 1: She's got like the stuff to play with and the screen.
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  Speaker 2: They have a full day of activities.
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  Speaker 1: Really by the time they get home, they're fucking Sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Last time, Macey and Oscar fell asleep in the car
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  Speaker 1: on the way home from the airport, straight into bed,
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  Speaker 1: woke up next morning. We moved on with our lives.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: But I would much rather run that risk than them
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  Speaker 1: not sleeping at home than not sleeping on up in
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  Speaker 1: the air.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you that's high risk, Poppy. She's normally having like
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  Speaker 2: the blacked out room. Yeah, the fucking noise machine of
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  Speaker 2: full pelt. And in the plane she was like, what's this?
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  Speaker 1: But you're good with playing. You can't nap unless it's
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  Speaker 1: on a plane or a bus. No. We've had this
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  Speaker 1: conversation before because when we went to Vegas. As soon
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  Speaker 1: as we got on a plane, you're like, so, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I'm back in the womb, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I know you think that kids they've got so much
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  Speaker 2: room because they're so tiny, it should just be pretty transferred.
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  Speaker 1: But I understand the excitement of it all. For us,
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  Speaker 1: it's worn off because unless you're like, hello, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to get off. But for them, they're like, this
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  Speaker 1: is fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And I did forget to order them kids meals, which
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  Speaker 2: is that always gets me.
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  Speaker 1: And usually a flight to like Indonesia, it's like would
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  Speaker 1: you like a piping.
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  Speaker 2: Hot spicy Nazi, oh God for the baby, or into
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  Speaker 2: Cabanara like real creamy.
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  Speaker 1: My kids are like when they bring out the seafood
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  Speaker 1: and an everyone it should be Okay, we need to
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  Speaker 1: start something.
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  Speaker 2: We need to start. We started attacking, then ban seafood.
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  Speaker 1: That's why flights.
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  Speaker 2: You want to go after the seafood industry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. First of all, I don't think I've ever had
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  Speaker 1: fish belonging the sea, not in the sky, well said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think serve it on a cruise ship up there.
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  Speaker 1: We should be eating birds chicken only like fly fly
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  Speaker 1: What about steak?
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  Speaker 2: Steak's fine?
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen a cow jump very high?
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  Speaker 2: There?
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  Speaker 1: You go? Hey, just on the back of your trip,
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  Speaker 1: because obviously everyone on my holidays on the Wednesday. But
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  Speaker 1: on the back of your trip, I noticed there was
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  Speaker 1: an ongoing theme and families love going to and especially
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  Speaker 1: like me. If I go away, I'm all inclusive and
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: none of these villa crap. Okay, I want food on demand,
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  Speaker 1: I want drinks on demand. I want my kids entertained
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  Speaker 1: on demand. Yes, I might as well stay home if
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to.
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  Speaker 2: A villa, I don't think I'll have a saying a
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  Speaker 2: villa again.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't need it anyway. The buffet breakfast is
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  Speaker 1: a must now, family, Yes, and I noticed that you
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  Speaker 1: were hoarding food for the rest of the day, which
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  Speaker 1: families do.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't know everyone was doing this.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: It's the old thing where it's like, quick, let's eat
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: heaps here so we can save money on the next meal.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: But then as soon as you leave the buffy, you're like,
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: I'm hungry.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: I really wish I had one more cross on.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, So then you start going, okay, well, the
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: kids are easy because you can the things they really like,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: you can hold those. I noticed that you were like
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: packing pastries and stuff like that, and what was your
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: form of carry in a bag?
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: So we initially started out pretty old school, very primitive.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I think in a bucket.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: We would just go the old napkin unfolded on the table,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: loaded in fold a napkin, and then I'd like kind
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: of carry it like down the side of crime, like
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: I'd shimmy out. And it was always like the Balie nine,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: like you doing I'm not fucking doing it, And I
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: don't think the stuff cares.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: They couldn't give two shits.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Some people did come for me and say, like, you're
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: teaching your children that it's okay to steal.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: That's a life lesson.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Bro, And I'm like, but that food's just going to
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: get thrown out right right?
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Ash?
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I don't know. I don't work
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: in the hotel industry, so I don't know. But people
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: did say. The number one bit of feedback I got
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: is that I should start using ziploc.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Bags no offense yep, amateurs okay, what and you fall
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: into that category nappy bag nah?
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, because we use that.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I saw that a weird smell about them.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: They do to hide the sense. Yeah my food, yeah,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: my cross on. Now it tastes like fucking lavender.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Not for me, not even uncentered somehow centered Yeah, not
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: for me either. So I will say that good start.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I would say that you're a novice in this situation.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, which I would accept. We've only we're new to
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: this industry of crime.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: So for me and my family, I'm thankfully I'm married
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: to an expert in this field, the most organized person
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: on the planet. Because she's not organized, she's crazy.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, and that the most loving way possible.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, love her for this, okay. So if it's
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: slightly out the organization, mate, you can see the steam
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: coming out of her ears like she's just like not
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: functioning with it.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: So the buffet is her area of expertise.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: It's one of the areas of expertise.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Because actually, because she is just going back, she's the platumum, right,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: She's a platam. She's a platumum. And they're the crazy one.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Yes they are. We love them. So my wife checked
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: in a tackle box, a clear fisherman's tackle box.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Why tackle box?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: She checked it into a flight, flew it over to
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Bali for the one purpose the buffet tackle box to
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: hord items for the children to eat throughout the day.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: But don't you okay not. I don't want to question
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: your wife's methods here, But do you think the tackle
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: box is like it seems like an unusual item to
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: bring into a buffet, like if she's ever fishing rods
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: and like a hat in the tackle box in the morning,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Like that would raise alarm bells to me if I
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: was working at a buffet.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: No, it's like I'm gonna show your photo on a
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: say it's a clear for the listeners at home. It's
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: a clear, single story tackle box, right, okay, So you
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: can see it's got all different segments and it fits
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: perfectly in her oversized travel handbag.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: That's okay, that's a key bit of a faae.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: But that's still doesn't eliminate the fact you've got to
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: whip it out onto the table or does she do
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: that under the table?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: On top of it?
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Started with under the table and then then she she's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: like a bird. She's brazen.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Just she'd get on the table and eat a chip.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Off your fucking plate and take off.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: That's how brazen she is, so expand it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: She's the tackle box bandit And realistically I didn't know
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: any of this was happening until I got there, and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, only you knew the kind of person
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: that you were marrying.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: There's two photos. This is the first one of young
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Macy full tackle box.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Actually that is a good tackle box. Also Macy looks
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: like I know that is fucking and then Oscar as
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: well buy the pool tackle box? Is that is amazing?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Can I just take back any questions that I had
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: about April and her methods because I thought it was
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: like a tall one that you're.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Like, that'd be the next one, that would be the
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: next one. When did she buy her? I think she
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: just got it from Kmar that is genius. But it's
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: not the first time she's done it. And I said to.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Her yesterday, I was like, has she ever gone on
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a trip if you've gotten the tackle box?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she must, I said it. Yes.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you wouldn't happen to have any
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: photos of the tackle box down and.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, I've gone right here. She's gone on
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: for a future reference album.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Bro, the organizational skills of my wife are next level.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Like just an insight. Okay, when my parents come to
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: babysit our kids, there's a fucking folder.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll bring some of the folder in next time.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: But I just saw your thing. I thought that's amateur.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to steal that. People did say you need
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: to bring a lunchbox, but that's like a lunch box
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: on steroids and we'll put these, We'll put that on
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: social media. So people are like, but how good can
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: a tackle box be?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Just you wait, you wait, it's look it segregated into differences.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: You've got sandwich and that's the thing issue with you're
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: just taking pastries. My wife's making full fucking sandwiches at
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the table and chopping them up with f that I.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Was limited pastries, only get some eggs in that I
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: went a boiled egg. But I was looking at the
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: fruit salad like you know there was there was and
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the fruit and balley is delicious. I was looking at
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: the watermelon, the pineapple, and I was like, I.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Cannot so April has separate containers for the fruit.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. I know she's like walking in there,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: like see her.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Coming, and they're like, no one question her. She knows
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: what she's doing and she's just spread out making sandwiches.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, there were a couple of mornings where like
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Laura would get the kids ready and the next thing
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: she'd be like walking off the table, by the way,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: make sure you bring some pastries back, and I'd be
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: like fuck, you know. So then I'm at the table
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: by myself, and they also then like I'd go, I
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: went to go and take some pastries and I was
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: anxious from being honest. Then I come back and because
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: we had a big table all the kids, then there
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: was a team of the white starting the table and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: then I was like.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Just sit back down and started.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: He was like.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I just fucking ran.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I had to run back to the room and Laura
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: was like, what did you what's your hole?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: What have you got?
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I got nothing?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I can just picture all like the Balinese staff in
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the back, just talking shit about all the whities. Yeah yeah,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: and they're like, what did you see that person?
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: She had a tackle box? May want a fucking plastic bag.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: It's got a poop bag over there, Matt. Some would
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: say that tackle boxing is a hack. Some would say
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that I would say that, I'd agree. I have stumbled
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: across a video hacks very short. Yes, that I would
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: like to show you and just see what your thoughts are,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: because I think it's genius and I will be trying it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: It says playing who can get the dirtiest clorox?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: What's clorox?
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: It must be like a spray and white copy that.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: And the best part of this plan is no one
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: can start me.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: You get it?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: That is very good. So for people who are wondering,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: it's a classroom and the teachers they're the cleverest.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, they spend the most time with kids.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: They've been type a set of skills.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I hate to go to baring one of them.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: So they've got each child with a wet wipe type
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: cloth and then whoever gets the dirtiest, Oh my god.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: So they clean up with them and then whoever's got
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the dirtiest wind. So it's a trick.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Teachers need to share more more of their wisdom.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to try with Oscar and Mason be like, hey,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: they'll probably see through this, but I'll be like, we need.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: To wipe all of the surfaces in the house.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: But whoever gets the dirtiest wipe gets something that.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Makes He's going to do one of the huge ships
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: in the toilet, and she's going to hold along.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: She's just so good at shitting and leaving it. My god,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: but you cannot touch your own ship with the wipe,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and she's like, god, damn it out.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Last time we went away, she was like, I just
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: got to go to the toilet. Sweet, we're pretty much
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: in the car. And got in the car and I said, day,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, before we leave, can you please go
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and check the toilets to make sure she flush because
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: last time she just left it in there.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Remember, Can I actually ask you a question?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: And Vick would hate this. Lucky for reference, Ash and
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I talk about ejaculating and ship at least one of
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: those topics get to mention every episode prerequence and so far.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: VIC would be listening and being like, oh my gosh,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: they were just talking about buffets all episode's.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about a come buffet. Wow, there is So.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Do you find that the toilets in the toilet shape
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: is a unique design specific only to that region of
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: the world. BALI, Yeah, it's like that's not the squat
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: ones flushing ones, like the flush is on the side.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: But I was like, I don't know if it's the
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: design of the scoop.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: In the it's very American.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my ships looked bigger. I don't know if I
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: was shitting more because I was at the buffet every morning. Yeah,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: you think, so okay, what it was the I like,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like no strange level of PSI just
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: it was like I was doing two ships. It was
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the same, the brand of the toilet, because that's what
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I was gonna I was gonna be like, what's the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: what's that?
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Boy, that's ridiculous, It's crazy. The array of toilets across
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the world.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: That's what I was looking at. I was every time
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I went to a bathroom, I was like, well, look
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: at this bad boy. I've got a Frank fifty two
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: design here, and.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: They got what side flash top flush?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Also they got the bidet as well, so I thought
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I was flashing it. And then the fucking day came
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: and gave me a facial.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I was like a good bi day.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't mind it, a good biday.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: When I got back from Japan, I was like, I'm
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: get one. And then it was like to get a
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: good one and get it in the store.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: It's too much. It takes a care.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: It's like a forever home piece, and.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: You don't want that with the little kids because they've
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: got a plane and it's a nightmare. But sorry talking
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: about toilets though. Within an episode recently, we talked about
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the dad he took his daughter into the female toilets,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: and I never realized how much women are okay with
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: dads taking the daughters, young daughters into it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I had no idea.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I thought that was entirely out of bounds. I thought
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: there was like like I thought I would get fucking murdered.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I only people that were the problem with it. I'm
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: middle aged white man.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, And now maybe.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: The common denominator here, bro is that you're a problem.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: So I do an announcement and I say, I'm a
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: man coming in here with a child. And I was
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: just like, I am, I'm a nana coming in here.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: So I announce it and then and then I'm allowed.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: It's like I'm allowed, and that's good.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Thing.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: So far, so good. That's courtesy. Thank you, thank you age.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Because I was also it's hard because at the resort,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you know, I was like, the last thing I need
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: is to come in there and someone's getting.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Changed because they like the pool changes.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: And then I'm like getting done, you know with the
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: like aren't you the guy's stuff from the buffet and
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: now you're a pick of tim And I was like,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I can't handle.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: You've got a crime list very long.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I think that's something I've learned recently.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like if you're who knew, I feel like,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: if you've got a girl child, you're allowed your parents.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: City, Yeah, you can do whatever you like. Hey, just quickly,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: your book is still available. I still have it's actually
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: you're still steal pretale. So it's the secret ingredient.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, what a story.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: It's riveting, the turning into a movie. Spielberg's onto it well,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Sealburg's onto it, Neel the Seal, Neil the Seal. We're
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: performing in it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: It's a great book. What do I dare say? One
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: of the greatest I've ever read.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I know. I was just about to say that.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I just gave it to you. Yeah,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that's great. Anyway, So I took a shit the other
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: day it was like this big I was like, fuck, yes,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: it is available from big W.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Get it from BW.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Why not it's cheaper. I don't know what book like.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll put the link in the show notes.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: The link in the show notes. Yes, yes, hey, something
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: has come to my attention, Matt. We talk a lot
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: on this podcast about your wife's feet. Yeah, here and there.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a lot, but yeah here it comes
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: up every and them. Let's take a little trip down
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: memory lane. First of all, we found out that she
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't shower at night.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: She just puts her feet in the sink. Correct, she
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: gets the nozzle and just.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Like washes the feet, washes the feet. Just give them
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: a little rints in the morning. Since she will wash
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: her body and not her feet, she.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Keeps her feet outside the door of the show.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then since then, I think every now and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: then it comes up in different ways. Well, it's come
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: to my attention courtesy of young Lockie over here, who's
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: provided me with the internet, has rated your wife's.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Feet rated my wife's feet.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so but they've also rated your feet.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Oh who's got better feet?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Well that's that's where it comes from.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Here, can I I'll be honest here and I'll say
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I do have a large big toe.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: You know, if I could change anything about feet, it
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: would be the size of the big toe. So there
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: was any mention of the big toe.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: No, nothing on that.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: What I will say about Maddie Jay's feet is, though,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: according to this rating, are a five star foot out
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: of what five? Wow? And it says gorgeous feet. So
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that those two playing at home its is on Wiki
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: feet and Young Laura BYRN four point six. My gosh, wow,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: no comment next to that one, because they're obviously not
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: gorgeous feet like Maddie Jay's. Let's have a look at
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: these bad boys.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: He's got little chippo lads, little toe trotters. Yeah, hey,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: it's you know, it's not something I thought i'd be
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: known for. But I'd like to thank defeat loving community
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: out there for admiring my work.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: You do have a girthy big toe. Maybe that's what
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: these foot lovers are into.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: They're into the big toe.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy how interfeet people are.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's two types of feet lovers. People who
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: love more like more of the toe.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And people like to fuck them. No, I mean.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: People are just like to look at them, and people
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: like to people like the souls. Yeah, I'm not much
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: of a souls don't do it for me. But people
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: are the underside. Yeah, they're like us, the underside. Give
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: us the part that you can't see.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: A friend of mine has a amputation. It's a fake
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: an ampute foot flashlight. Sorry, yeah, so it's the it's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the ankle down and then the top of the ankle
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: is the foot is a vagina.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: So he's fucking your ankle. But you're looking at the foot. Okay,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to yuck anyone's yarm.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: But that's interesting. The pussy ankle, what'll call that?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, jankle?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, how did we get here?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Somewhere? We were doing so well once
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you started with the calm thing, I was like, fuck,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: come buffet.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Once that happened, it was all down here. It was
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: all down here.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: It was all down here. Let's move on there.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Let's go to a segment to separate this up. Okay, look,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I've got one pair.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Rant Okay, here do we do it? Intro music? It
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: go on, let's do it. What I want to.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Say?
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: What? Man?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I feel like a pair of rant Okay, I got
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: one here, Ash. This was sent in on the Facebook
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: group and I thought it was who good not to
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: share because I know this will rall you up. And
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: if there's one thing I love in this world, that's
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: when you get riled up and doesn't know it doesn't
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: happen often. Well, talking about the angle for JJ is
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: what are they called again? The vag vaijankle.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I can't take credit for that term because the guy
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: who he stole it, the guy who we're talking about.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I love how you have to like be like I can't.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I'm a professional, okay, And I don't only use my
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: own material.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: You've known me for long enough now that I must
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: use my own material. The vaj who one of my race.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: League friends also I won race league. There you go,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: there you go. One.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: How did you celebrate? I jerked off, I joked it
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: in the seat.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I ordered a Vajt Line Express. They do all sorts
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: of limbs. I literally got a risty. Oh my god,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: it's good to be bad. It is good to be bad.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: So this one is from Celeste Pie Celeste, she says,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: pair round in For context, I have a three and
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: a half year old and a nearly two year old.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: My two year old does not like getting her nappy
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: changed in parent rooms. Interesting, just on that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Did you see that they did a swab test on
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: all of those fold down thing and the traces of
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: cocaine on every single one. Really not surprised.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Whenever they're doing the swab test, I don't need to
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: know that information.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: They're like, we'll swap test this.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Hang on a second, now, swab testing anything in the bathroom,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: you just know it's not going to be a good result.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: No, what do they think is going to be on that? Oh, sunflowers?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like cocaine. Seamen, come pubes and fucking shit.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: That's my kind of change room. Wait, oh god, that's
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: right up rally.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: For context, says, yeah, sorry, the three and a half
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: year old two year old. The two year old does
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: not like getting a nappy changed in parent rooms, will
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: literally screen bloody murder if we do. It. Interesting that
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: the two year old is such a like. It knows
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: a reaction you have.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: It knows already it's going to be a very perceptive.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: So we usually resort to the car boot because we
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: don't want to make life more stressful for us. The
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: car boot is effective, but obviously not as private. Okay,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: now the rant they weigh. My blood boils when I
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: am unpacking the prem placing my older child in their
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: car seat, then changing my youngest snappy, keeping everything running
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: calmly and smoothly, because you know toddler's she says ash.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Then having someone pull up behind you, peeping their head
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: out whilst my toddler is fully exposed from the rear,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: just to say, are you leaving? I actually think that's
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: a fair question.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: If you can't, I don't think.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I think the car boots not as obvious to others.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I think if I look, I edge on the rule
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: of go on. If I'm in a car park looking
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: for a car space, if I see a family leaving.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I'd give that a wide berth because of And I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: would say the question from the driver fair. Nothing wrong
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: with the question, because you're just asking if they're leaving.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: But I think it comes down to the awareness of
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: who you're asking. So if I'm driving past and I
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: see a mum loading a baby into a car, I'm
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: going straight past because she doesn't need the added stress
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: of waiting for me.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: It does. It does add a level of pressure to
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: an already very stressless And so if.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: You've got a couple of kids involved the area for
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: things to go wrong, it's much greater because it could
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: be so simple as maybe bumping your kids head on
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the way into the car. Then you've got to melt down. Kid,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you're trying to change your nappy and fuck with behind
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you turns up and goes are you leaving? Yeah, I'm leaving,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: But how about you come and finish changing my baby's nappy?
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: First year? Fuck with?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: There?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: He is? There he is. But I would say it
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: comes out the question is not the problem, it is
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the who you are.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: She says, I'm already operating like it's an emergency because
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: of toddlers. She's diffusing a bomb and not only are
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: you glaring right up the ainus of my child, but
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: you're also adding the unnecessary pressure for me to pack
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: up and leave very quickly so that you can save
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: a couple of minutes to find elsewhere.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Fuck, I'd slow down.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Some extra context. This is in a westfield in western Sydney,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: which has plenty of parking, as it was mid morning
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: and not peak season. If it were Christmas, I'd be
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: a little more reasonable. This sounds. This is like Celeste
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: is like the female ash. It sounds and she's like,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: and let me get don't get me started on.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: The vas It's like, if there's plenty of parks, this
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: person's just a lazy fuck. I agree trying to get close,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: but I think I would much rather prefer you to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: sit in your car, idling with your blinker on two
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: cars back and waiting for me. Okay, I'd much rather
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: that because as soon as someone gets a bit pushy,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I slow down.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: It takes me fucking ten minutes, especially at the beach, yeah,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: to get you.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Know, the kids in and like that's and I've had
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: someone ask me when the kids. So what I would
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: do from the beach specifically is April would go wash
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the kids off. I would carry every belonging that we owned,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: because we had to take everything we owned the beach.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Apparently that's what you need.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: The fucking couch of the fridge anyway, carry all that
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: to the car so that I can load that in
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: and when the kids come, we can get in and go. Right.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: But sometimes, especially in summer, which is fair, someone to
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: come and go, hey are you leaving? Mate? Oh? Go yeah,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: but I'm waiting on two kids under five, And ninety
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: percent of people go, ah, yeah, come out of here
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: because they've got a brain, because they've got a brain.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: But old mate, who fucking can't go three spaces back,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: whether it's free, wants to put someone else's day under pressure.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Get real, get real.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I love the pattern. This is. This is when you're
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: at your best.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Actually have a couple of doted dilemmas. I think we
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: have a song for this. We have a song, Yeah,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: we do.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: We have a song for everything. Well, let's make another song.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Now you need us more than ever, know that we
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: still have each other. You can send sure doting dilemma.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: You can send sure doting dilemma.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: All right, Matt, I don't know who This is from
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: It's anonymous, and it goes like, so are you a
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: good parent if the only thing you do is bring
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: in the money?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: So you're the primary provider, the breadwinner, the bread and
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I think like breadwinner.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Is a bit of a shit way to put it.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I think like everyone's got their job. I just think
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the word breadwinner is a bit like.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's obviously an important part. It's a good
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle that needs to be there. You know,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: if you're in a relationship where one person is working
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: and bringing in financial security, then other person is not
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: looking after the kids. Obviously it's it's it's.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: A critical part.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: But I think I look at when I was growing up,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: and when you're a kid, like you don't really appreciate
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the fact that you've got food on the table or
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: a roof over your head. You're just like that's fucking
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: pretty standard, right, I mean.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: At that age you think it standard. Yeah, yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: And I think the issue is those types of parents,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: mainly dads, who are looking at that responsibility as being
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: like they're kind of ben end all your only job
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: responsibility as a parent. I think they're going to find
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: it pretty tough because the kids don't really have any
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: level of appreciation for and so you're also going to
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: get prestred at the kids. I remember my dad would
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: be like, I work so hard with this family, and
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: we're like, yeah, but I just I would rather hang out.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: With you for sure, and like it's let's just take
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the word good for a sec. That's pretty subjective in
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: terms of parenting because everyone they're better at certain things
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and they bring certain things to the table. So I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: think the word good probably doesn't. I wouldn't say you're
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a bad parent for just providing finances. Maybe that's how
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: it was discussed and agreed upon and whatever.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Everyone's going to be different.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I think what would make a good parent to a
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: great parent in that situation would be that you are
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: open to it being more than just providing money. Right,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: So if you've had a kid because you made that choice,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: you can't just be like, well I pay for them.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: The way I see that there is it's like, okay, well,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, why did you become a parent
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: when you could have just got animals pets? And then
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: also as well, I think like it is so old school,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: yeah about this, you're the breadwinner Okay, I hate that word.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: But you're the breadwinner, aright, and you come home and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: you love getting your hands dirty with being a parent
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: as well. What sort of parent are you? Then you're
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: a fucking great parent.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're going to build the relationship with your
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: child is going to be so much more robust as
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: opposed to that person who just comes home and goes, hey, Billy,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: you know I put in two thousand dollars into the
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: bank account this week.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Good night?
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, they get like you said, give a shit.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I just put myself in the position and it's like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I come home, I've put I've been able to provide
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: my family. First of all, I feel proud about that.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: But then I get my I get stuck in with
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the kids and enjoy it, and then my wife's happy
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: about I think I'm fucking happy. My wife would be
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: about that. She's like and then also as well, she's like, fuck,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: this guy's attractive. There's so many knock ons for being
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: from going from good to great?
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I reckon? Maybe I'm putting till
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: into to make five here, but I think if I
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: had the option of just someone was asking what do
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: you think is going to be an easier day for
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: you. You're either going to work, like do your admin and
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: emails all day, or you're going to have the kids
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: all day. Obviously, I get like a lot more out
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: of emotionally working with the kids, being with the kids,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: But it's an easier day if I'm just on my
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: own working. And I think there's a lot of people
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: out there, dads especially, who lean on the fact that
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: they're like, well, I'm providing for the family as a
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: way of ignoring the fact that it's just a hell
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: of a lot easier being at work and not being
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: with the kids.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like, look, everyone's situation is going to be different.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: People have got really stressful jobs that are important, right,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Like we've got we're talking about, you know, doctors, you know,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: loyal all those sort of people that like society really
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: relies on. But at the same time, why did you
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: have a kid? If you're willing to do nothing but
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: pay for them, You might as well be single and
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: pay supportive, supportive family financially if you've got nothing to
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: do with it. I think it's very like it is
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: definitely being bred out because I think like one of
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the guys in Oscar soccer team. He's on a sabbatical
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: this year, and he was like, like, it's crazy that
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: as soon as I took a step back from working
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: so much, everything in my life is so much better. Yeah,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Like the relationship with his kids, He's like, I'm doing
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: drop off at a reasonable time, and he's like he
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: and his wife were both high up corporate drop off
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: at seven am, pick up at six pm, like, but
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: they love their kids. But at the same time, it
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: was like, he's like, I'm so thankful that I've taken
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: this break just so that I can see that the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: providing is great.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: But my kids want me as well, right, And I reckon,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: especially when they're still in primary school. And obviously it's
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: easy for someone to say, well, just like pause your career. Yeah,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: but I think if you're going to clock in those
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: crazy hours, I think it's when the kids don't want
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: you when they're in high school and they're like fuck off, dad.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also think like you find some balance somewhere.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: It might not be like every day that you have
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: time to invest so much into your kids, but if
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: you're going to work fucking ridiculous out If I'm working
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: ridiculous house. I'm saying, Aprile. Look, the next two weeks,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I'm fucking back to back, but I've taken an extra
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: day off work after that so that i could spend
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: it with you guys, because obviously we need to and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: cost a living.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Of course, people got to work more and more and
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: more and more and more. That's it is what it is.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: But I think like you've still got to find those
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: moments as a parent at any time of the day
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: to be like I am more than just a money
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: bank a bank account.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Ash. We've got to have one more
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: question here. This is from Jess. It was sent in
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: on the Facebook group, which is just such a fantastic group. Ah,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: if you are a parent actually and you're like having
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: an awful time with the kids, just put the TV
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: on and jump on the Facebook group. Oh yeah, come
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: and join us AND's scroll it. She goes, I am
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: dying with back to back daycare sicknesses and I'm in
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: my third trimester. Congratulations. All the flues, the gashtro you
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: name it. The question is do I pull them out
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: before baby comes or push through for some one on
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: one time with the new baby. I feel guilty either way.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I would say, look, everyone's fucking sick at the moment.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I would say, everyone is sick at the moment. What
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: the fuck is going on? Just like I feel like
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: there's always like bird Flu's coming, bird flu.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is how it works, right, one
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: year everyone's sick, the next year everyone's like, we're sweet,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: next year sick. Very cyclical, cyclical sick lickicl.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: That's in the episode right there.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I think with this one, I reckon. I'll just say
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: what I think.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Go please, that's all I ask for, ash, is it?
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I would push through what Yeah, i'd push through because.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've come this far.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: You've come this far. Also, you're better off building the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: immune than coddling it too much. So I think you'll go,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: all right, I'll bring him home, things the right thing
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: to do. And then all of a sudden you're like,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: oh fuck, this kid's sick and they're here and it's
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: like or it's like, this kid's home. I can't get
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: anything done. Like I think that time when you're about
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: to have another child, Yeah, you need to spend those
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: first little time really putting the work in there. I
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: am not having someone because that kid's not going to
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: understand just thinks, oh, I'm off school. But then also
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: it's going to be like I bored, I want to
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: do things.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: But you're also like this kid is going to be
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: a machine when they're older. Oh yeah. The amount of
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: illnesses that they receive, like that immune system is going
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: to be when people are like wash your hands, Timmy.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, let them play with this shit and
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: have lunch. Yeah, for system. Immune system needs cough on
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: my kid. I don't know yet. If you want to
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: build an immune system, just go to an old people's
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: home with there's lots of honors and just sending your
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: kid there. Oh yeah, they'll be kissing your left, right,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and center. I don't know if it's true. You know
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: how they always say, like when the kids sickle was
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: from daycare, they're like, the immune system needs it.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: It does. We went a good couple of years of
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: my kids not being sick, and then this year sick.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I would say, like, you've got to hit it head on.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I think the days that they need to be home
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: to rest fine, but the days where it's like okay,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: well they've come off the back of a little sickness,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: they've picked up from school, they've got to go straight
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: back because if you're hot withhold them. I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: not I'm a doctor, but I would say that, like
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  Speaker 1: you definitely knows when like your kid's been sick, then
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  Speaker 1: then they've come good. They've built that immune and they
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  Speaker 1: go through the back end of winter and completely.
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  Speaker 2: Find Guys, we're halfway through winter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're another half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So whether you pull them out now you've come halfway,
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  Speaker 2: just finish it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, finish the finish the season. Finish the season, and
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