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(Approximately) 10 Things That Vanished Mysteriously · Stuff You Should Know

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.
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  Speaker 1: There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over there.
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  Speaker 1: So this is stuff you should know the podcast. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: him and a Jerry's not there all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: it says she's vanished without a trace. No, she's right there.
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  Speaker 1: There's just a miso dust lingering in her where she
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  Speaker 1: once sat. Jerry, do you either want a So it
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  Speaker 1: seems like she's eating me so soup a lot, but
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  Speaker 1: she probably just did that once and I extrapolated that
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  Speaker 1: over years. She's eating Indian food right now. I know,
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  Speaker 1: our tiny little studio smells like we need a spice kitchen.
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  Speaker 1: You know what that is. It's a kitchen full of spice.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's a second kitchen for cooking really stinky food.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, huh, I need it. I
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  Speaker 1: want a spice kitchen so I can cook my rich
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  Speaker 1: game meets that Emily can't stand the smell. What's your
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  Speaker 1: favorite game meat? I'm just getting on like game meats.
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  Speaker 1: What do you like the stinky? Oh? I mean, dude,
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  Speaker 1: if I cook bacon or country ham or steak in
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  Speaker 1: the Josh Clark cast iron fan steak. It stinks at
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  Speaker 1: the house for two days. You know, She's just like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, like that animal in here. You need
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  Speaker 1: to get like good air purifier, air filter works works. Wonders. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have a stove hood yet, you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which is that's probably the biggest rub. Yeah, And I
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  Speaker 1: think like, depending on the stove hood, I think someone
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  Speaker 1: are just kind of like, but there's ones out there
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  Speaker 1: that are really good. Yeah. I bet those are the
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  Speaker 1: expensive ones. Yeah, but I'll bet you can find a
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  Speaker 1: good one that's at a lower price point. Maybe, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe I could just hire a guy they got a
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  Speaker 1: window right behind the stove to just sit, a little
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  Speaker 1: short guy to sit in the window with some fireplace bellows.
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  Speaker 1: They'd be good. Or one of those people who like
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  Speaker 1: fan things with palm franz. Yeah, maybe that's cheaper. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. But for the life of your stove, probably
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  Speaker 1: not weirdest start ever. So, Chuck, you remember when David
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  Speaker 1: Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty disappear. I remember it happening.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. You didn't watch it. No, I've
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  Speaker 1: never been a big fan of his his magic work.
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  Speaker 1: Even as a kid. Nah, not into it. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: guess you would have been about fifteen at the time.
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  Speaker 1: I could see you like being like, this is dumb. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you were eleven. It was the coolest thing ever. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to do this. Oh my gosh, he did it?
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  Speaker 1: What I like? What is that? Even? I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, he put up basically a curtain
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  Speaker 1: around the Statue of Liberty and painted and the Statue
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  Speaker 1: of Liberty wasn't there. I'm sure it's all smoking mirrors. Well,
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  Speaker 1: of course it's you mean it wasn't real magic, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm pretty sure it wasn't dark arts,
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  Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think Satan was involved. It
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  Speaker 1: was too patriotic for that, you know what I mean. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, my point is to this super lay intro
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  Speaker 1: is that David Copperfield brought the Statue of Liberty back.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't disappear forever. It just disappeared temporarily. It's amazing,
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  Speaker 1: But there are some things, mostly people and some socks
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  Speaker 1: that do just disappear forever that have disappeared forever, and
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  Speaker 1: who's like mystery mysterious disappearances are still unsolved to this day.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Do you lose a lot of socks? Uh? No, No,
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  Speaker 1: Umi does our laundry. She keeps tabs on the socks. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they make little tabs that you clip on keep your
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  Speaker 1: socks together when And I've also seen there's this one
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  Speaker 1: company that tried to sell socks and as three socks,
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  Speaker 1: so you always had a backup superfluous sock. But it didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that took off like it should have.
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  Speaker 1: Coulda who knows the person who invented it. They know,
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  Speaker 1: believe me, they wake up every day and they're like,
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  Speaker 1: three sacks was a great idea. So let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: some of these things that have disappeared without a trace. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is one of our famous top tens. It'll be
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  Speaker 1: what six eight, something like that, Solomon Northrop number one.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen twelve years of late yet? Man? Still No.
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  Speaker 1: It's sitting on my DVR staring me in the face
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  Speaker 1: and watch daring me to be sad and watch it.
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  Speaker 1: You just gotta get it over with it. There's a
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  Speaker 1: certain amount of Catharsis to it. It's not just gonna
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  Speaker 1: bring you down to the depths of depression and leave
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  Speaker 1: you there necessarily. Yeah, I've been ticking off the really
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  Speaker 1: sad ones at a rate of about two per year.
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  Speaker 1: Like I just watched Beast of the Southern Wild like
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  Speaker 1: a few months ago. I haven't seen that one. That's
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  Speaker 1: a good one. Is it good? Yes? Very tough movie,
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  Speaker 1: is it? But yeah, long story short, I need to
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  Speaker 1: watch Twelve Years of Slave. Okay, I'm shamed. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: mean the same. I'm just saying it's like the third
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  Speaker 1: time I've been shamed. It's a kid. It's a good movie.
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  Speaker 1: So Solomon Northrop was the uh. He was the man
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  Speaker 1: who wrote the memoir on which the movie was based,
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  Speaker 1: because it's a true story about his life and he
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  Speaker 1: was born free uh an African American in eighteen forty one.
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  Speaker 1: Went well, it says here was lured from his home
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  Speaker 1: in New York to Washington, d C. And then kidnapped
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  Speaker 1: forced into slavery in Louisiana. Yeah, he was lured by
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  Speaker 1: being basically hired as a musician, and while when he
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  Speaker 1: went to d C, he was kidnapped and solding the slavery,
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  Speaker 1: and man, it just gets worse from there. Whe they're like,
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  Speaker 1: you should come down and play the nine thirty Club.
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  Speaker 1: Basically yeah, He's like, great, let's see it. And they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: there is no nine club. There's just horrific slavery on
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  Speaker 1: a plantation in Louisiana. Um. So he actually, uh spoiler
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  Speaker 1: alert for those of you, like Chuck who haven't haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen the movie, he um is basically rescued from slavery.
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  Speaker 1: He figures out a way to basically pass a message
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  Speaker 1: along in the people who know and can confirm that
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  Speaker 1: he was a born of Freeman, Um come and get him,
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  Speaker 1: which is pretty great. Uh. The and at the very
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  Speaker 1: end of the movie in it it says basically like
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  Speaker 1: the circumstances and date and whereabouts of Solomon Northrop's death
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  Speaker 1: are unknown. Okay, so they just finish it with a
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  Speaker 1: They do graphic, yes, but basically it's almost like an
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  Speaker 1: off handed thing. You don't think anything about it. But
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  Speaker 1: it turns out he he disappeared. It was mysterious. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he like people don't know where he went. He went
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  Speaker 1: back to the North and ended up working in the
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  Speaker 1: underground railroad. There's some um rumors that he became a
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  Speaker 1: spy for the Union during the Civil War. And it's
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  Speaker 1: so at some point he went you know, he wrote
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  Speaker 1: Twelve Years of Slave, Yeah, and he went on a
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  Speaker 1: book tour, um and abolitionist book tour, and he never
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  Speaker 1: came home from it. Yeah. In eighteen sixty three was
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  Speaker 1: about the last time that there were any records of
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  Speaker 1: his existence. And there are a bunch of different theories
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  Speaker 1: out there of what might have happened to him. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: One that while he was a spy he was captured
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  Speaker 1: and killed. One is that he was kidnapped again and
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  Speaker 1: sold into slavery. But um, I think I read that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people just count out because he was
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  Speaker 1: kind of too old to be valuable at that point
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  Speaker 1: as a worker, yea. And or maybe he encount well,
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  Speaker 1: we know he encountered some financial difficulties, so maybe he
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  Speaker 1: just assumed a new identity and kind of skipped down.
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  Speaker 1: There's also one that's like the saddest but also probably
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  Speaker 1: the most realistic, that he died in a place where
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  Speaker 1: they didn't know who he was and they weren't inclined
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  Speaker 1: to to properly bury him, so he just led a
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  Speaker 1: regular life and died unknown, Yeah, or like he got
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  Speaker 1: run over by a horse or something on the book
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  Speaker 1: tour and no one knew who he was. He just
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  Speaker 1: thought he was like some African American, you know, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe even a slave and they just buried him in
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  Speaker 1: on mark Grave, Pauper's grave. Yeah, very sad. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Well that is uh, that's the first one. Um. I
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  Speaker 1: think Jimmy Hoffa is a great way to follow that up.
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  Speaker 1: Who Jimmy Hoffa? M hmm, famous teamster uh, teamster boss.
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  Speaker 1: I was reading a little bit about his huge beef
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  Speaker 1: with Bobby Kennedy. They hated each other. They didn't like
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  Speaker 1: each other, I mean hated each other. Like apparently Jimmy
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  Speaker 1: Hoffa shoved Bobby Kennedy at a restaurant once because he
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  Speaker 1: felt yeah, because he felt like he had snubbed him. Wow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Hoffa didn't like that kind of thing. Bobby Kennedy
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  Speaker 1: sent he wrote a book called The Enemy Within and
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  Speaker 1: it was about like the Mob and um, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure if Halfa was named in it or not, but
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  Speaker 1: it was basically like all of his friends. Bobby Kennedy
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  Speaker 1: wrote a book about it, and he sent a book
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  Speaker 1: a copy of it to Jimmy Hoffa, and he wrote
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  Speaker 1: a little inscription that said, to Jimmy, I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: make sure you've got a copy of this from me
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  Speaker 1: so you wouldn't have to use pension funds to buy
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  Speaker 1: one zing zing indeed, and he said have him killed.
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  Speaker 1: And he finally Bobby Kennedy finally got his mitts on
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Hoffa and sent him to prison for a little while.
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  Speaker 1: But Halfa was a huge contributor to Nixon's campaigns against
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  Speaker 1: the Kennedy and so when Nixon became president, he'd pardoned Halfa.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, in nineteen seventy one, he was pardoned. And
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  Speaker 1: then on July thirtieth, n sventy five, just four years later,
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  Speaker 1: he went for a meeting at the uh macas Red
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  Speaker 1: Fox restaurant. It's a great name in Bloomfield, Michigan's great
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  Speaker 1: outside of Detroit, suburban Detroit. And he was never seen again,
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  Speaker 1: never seen again, disappeared, no bones, nobody, no nothing. And
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  Speaker 1: there's been tons of theories and suppositions and rumors about
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  Speaker 1: what became of him. Right, yeah, Supposedly he was there
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  Speaker 1: to meet um a couple of mafia bosses Anthony uh
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  Speaker 1: Gia Cologne and Anthony pro Bazan though which was no
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  Speaker 1: Tony Jack and Tony pro most were their nicknames. And um,
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  Speaker 1: they denied later that they had a meeting scheduled and
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  Speaker 1: they were they ended up actually having an alb because
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  Speaker 1: I read that and I was like, well, duh, he
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  Speaker 1: goes to meet with two mafia guys and disappears. But
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  Speaker 1: supposedly they had an alibi and they yeah, exactly, and
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  Speaker 1: they were not there. Um, so they were at church, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: with their mothers. There was a truck, like a you know,
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  Speaker 1: a semi truck pulling into the parking lot and almost
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  Speaker 1: hit got hit by this car pulling out of Mercury
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  Speaker 1: and he said he looked in and he saw Haffa
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  Speaker 1: in the back seat with another guy with what looked
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  Speaker 1: like a rifle like under uh, like a blanket in
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  Speaker 1: between them. Oh yeah, I mean the mafia killed Jimmy Hoffa. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's virtually no dispute over that. It's just what happened
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  Speaker 1: to his body exactly. So some people said that he
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  Speaker 1: was buried under the old Giants Stadium in New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: that the meadow Lands or is the new one at
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  Speaker 1: the meadow lands. The old well, the new one may
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  Speaker 1: be there too, but the old one was definitely there.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't happen? Did they ever dig it? Dig out the field?
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  Speaker 1: And look? No, I think the MythBusters actually went there
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  Speaker 1: with some equipment that could detect whether or not. Is
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  Speaker 1: there anything those guys couldn't do? I don't know, get
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  Speaker 1: along off the air. Yeah. Uh, we can also verify
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  Speaker 1: that um, a couple of weeks before he disappeared, hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of millions of dollars we're missing from the pension. And
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  Speaker 1: um again, you know no secret that the mafia probably
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  Speaker 1: had him done in right, So where's the body? Right? So? Um?
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  Speaker 1: And I think two thousand and fourteen, a guy named
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  Speaker 1: Tony Zarelli, another Tony, he wrote a book. Is that
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  Speaker 1: what his? I'm just kidding his his His book was
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  Speaker 1: called Half a Found and in it he detailed how
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  Speaker 1: half of his body was buried under some concrete slabs
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  Speaker 1: in a barn in upstate Michigan. I thought you gonna
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  Speaker 1: say it was a pop up book, and at the
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  Speaker 1: end he just pops up in right, here's half of um.
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  Speaker 1: You got me with that one. And apparently the FBI
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  Speaker 1: read this book and they went and dug up the
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  Speaker 1: field and didn't find anything. Yeah, they've looked. Um, they're
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  Speaker 1: quite a few locations in suburban Detroit that they've done
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  Speaker 1: some digging over the years, all yielding nothing. And there
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  Speaker 1: are other rumors he was fed to alligators in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Quite possible. It would be a good way to get
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  Speaker 1: rid of a body and run through a wood chipper
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  Speaker 1: was another one. Yeah, I'll fargo. Yeah, I think they
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  Speaker 1: will never find him. I think. I also read that
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  Speaker 1: one um, supposedly reputable mafia source said, yeah, we killed
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  Speaker 1: him and we buried him in a shallow grave nearby,
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  Speaker 1: and we were supposed to move it, but we never did.
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  Speaker 1: So he's just, you know, not too far from the restaurant. Um.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, we never thought about that place. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't think they'll ever get anything.
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  Speaker 1: To be one of those enduring mysteries that is lazy
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  Speaker 1: who are too lazy to move a body to a
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  Speaker 1: better right, just leave him in the shallow grave? All right?
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  Speaker 1: Should we take a break, Yeah, why not? All right,
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  Speaker 1: we'll come back and talk about more disappearing X. I
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  Speaker 1: love this, Uh, one of these chuck, we should at
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  Speaker 1: least give a shout out to is the three guys
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  Speaker 1: who escaped Alcatraz. Oh yeah, and if you guys are
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  Speaker 1: interested in that, go listen to our entire episode on Alcatraz,
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  Speaker 1: where I believe we talked about this in depth. I hope.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm pretty sure we did, because if not, people
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  Speaker 1: are gonna be like, or just go watch the great
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  Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood movie Escape from Alcatraz. Yeah, because it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: darn accurate to the real story. Um, so we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: breeze by that one. I mean, we can talk about
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  Speaker 1: it if you want them, endlessly fascinated by. When we
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: were in San Francisco for our most recent tour for
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  Speaker 1: Sketch Fest, Actually, did you go? No? I was. I
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  Speaker 1: ran down to the bay and looked out across it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I couldn't swim that, no problem. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go, but you gotta get reservations far in advantage. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: I've never been to Alcatraz. I want to go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, let me call and get tickets and
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  Speaker 1: they were like, we've been sold out for weeks. I'd
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  Speaker 1: also like to go take a tour of Eastern State
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  Speaker 1: pen the Tentry one of those old like crazy asylums. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would love to do that. It'd be pretty cool,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Well, yeah, let's talk about it, why not. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty two, Frank Morris and the Anglan brothers, Johnny
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  Speaker 1: and Clarence. They were bank robbers. Frank Morris is sort
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  Speaker 1: of a lifelong crook. Yeah, very very super intelligent guy
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  Speaker 1: who had escaped from several prisons. Uh. And finally they said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna put you in Alcatraz because
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  Speaker 1: it's inescapable. It's like the Titanic of prisons. You saw
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  Speaker 1: what happen with that. So they devised a brilliant plan
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  Speaker 1: over the course of several months, along with a guy
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  Speaker 1: named Alan west Um who sadly was left behind um
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  Speaker 1: to Uh, he wouldn't wake up. No, he couldn't fit through,
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't get his little vent open. They what they
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  Speaker 1: did was they carved out in vent over the course
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  Speaker 1: of months with like these little homemade chisels. He ain't
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  Speaker 1: too much bread pudding in the meantime, maybe, I mean
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  Speaker 1: the guys tried. They were trying to kick out from
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  Speaker 1: the other side, and eventually like we gotta go do
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  Speaker 1: so Um. The plan was over the course of months
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  Speaker 1: to carve out this space to get out, work their
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  Speaker 1: way through the guts of the prison to the roof,
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  Speaker 1: slide down some drain pipes, and then swim away with
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  Speaker 1: homemade life vests made out of raincoats that they had
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  Speaker 1: collected and glued together. But didn't they run into like
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  Speaker 1: some construction or something like that that just totally through
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  Speaker 1: their their plan off, improvise and go around, and it
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  Speaker 1: just was exponentially harder than they thought it was going
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  Speaker 1: to be getting out, I believe it. But they made
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  Speaker 1: life rafts out of raincoats that they sewed together to inflate, well,
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  Speaker 1: glued them together. Yeah, that's awesome. It is awesome. And
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  Speaker 1: they also made um bodies, well heads at least, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: paper mache heads to lay in their bunks that um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they look like paper mache heads in the light,
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  Speaker 1: but when you're walking the rounds at night and it's
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  Speaker 1: just sort of tucked into a pillow under some blank
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  Speaker 1: ets with real human hair from the barbershop, it fulled
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  Speaker 1: the guards. Yeah. Really, don't they have those on display
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  Speaker 1: in Alcatraz still? Oh, I'm sure they do. And here's
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  Speaker 1: a neat little fact that I didn't know until my
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  Speaker 1: friend Stacy told me. The they didn't have cold water
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  Speaker 1: in Alcatraz because they didn't want you to be able
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  Speaker 1: to acclimate yourself to the frigid baywaters over time. So
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  Speaker 1: all the water was warm, luxurious, the bay waters about
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  Speaker 1: fifty degrees. It's like an omni it is And uh,
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  Speaker 1: they don't know, I mean the FBI, and everyone says
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  Speaker 1: now they died for sure. That says that about everybody.
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  Speaker 1: They can't catch you now they're dead. There's no way.
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  Speaker 1: Just don't bring it up again, right, just shut up. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they don't think they could have survived the swim. Um.
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  Speaker 1: The original plan was to go to Angel Island, go
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  Speaker 1: to the opposite side of the island, and then swim
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  Speaker 1: to Marin. I guess open a coffee shop. I guess
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  Speaker 1: me dely right. When they crossed the county, they were
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  Speaker 1: imbued with wealth. I don't know if they made it
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  Speaker 1: or not. Apparently a couple of weeks later there was
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  Speaker 1: a freighter ship that saw a body floating. Uh, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't report it until October though. They went from July
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  Speaker 1: to October and then said, oh, by the way, we
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: saw body floating. That looked like he was wearing prison denims.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: They finally got to that on their to do list.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, yeah, report dead body. Well it's a
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: fraighter ship. They didn't care, you know, their laws, their
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: allegiances to the sea, not a man on land. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: they also found a few pieces of other evidence. Um,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: they found a life vest with teeth marks near the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: valve and um, human teeth marks. Yeah, human teeth marks. Yeah,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: not Barracuda teeth marks. Isn't someone who was probably holding
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: it in their teeth trying to blow it up while
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: they were swimming. Where would they have gotten a life vest? Oh,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it was one of the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: homemade ones. Oh well, so, I mean that doesn't mean anything.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: They could have ditched. Well that's what I said. And
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the fact that the body was unidentifiable. Yeah, and they
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: never uh, they never you know, resurfaced. The plan was
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: to rob a store on Angel Island and get clothing,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and there were never any robberies planting. You know. That's
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: kind of about That's a little telling, although they could
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: have been like, I'm too cold to rob anything, let's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: just go to Muran and hug Yeah. Uh so who knows.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Pretty neat, pretty neat? Indeed, when was that cool? I
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: think we'll never know, just like the rest of these
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: unexplained mysterious disappearances. Should we move on to the candy heiress. Yeah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Helen Brock. Um, I can't remember where I saw something.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I saw it. I guess the documentary on this case.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's an amazing true crime cold case. Helen
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Brock's mysterious disappearance. And this our own article gets a
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: little bit wrong. Um, but let's talk about it, okay.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: So Helen Brock was the heiress to the Brock Candy
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: fortune because her husband and Frank Brock um it, was
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a co founder of the company and when he died,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: he left his wife Helen. Um, I think, basically everything.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And she was a very very wealthy woman, and she
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: liked to do things like go to the Mayo Clinic
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to get her annual physical like Mr Burns, although she
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: was nothing like Mr Burns from what I understand. She
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: was a very um, lovable, conscience is cool person. Um.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: But she was very very wealthy, so why not go
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: to the Mayo Clinic? Back in she went to the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Mayo Clinic and got to work out, and the last
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: reliable person to see her alive was a woman who
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: was working at the Mayo Clinic gift shop where Mrs
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Brock stopped to get a gift for her niece. A
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Mayo Clinic snow globe exactly right, right, yeah, what else?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Anything else? Spooned spoon to Mayo Clinic spoon. People click those,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: uh Mayo Clinic sock puppet. Big seller. So she said
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: to the lady, I'm in a hurry. My house man
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: is waiting. House man was one Jack Matlick, and she
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: was never seen again. Um, Mattlick had dropped her off.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's for the outbound flight to Minneapolis. And then
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: he said, no, man, she came back. I picked her up.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: And then she spent four days. I didn't call anyone,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: but she was here home at home, even though there's
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: no evidence to corroborate this, right, And then he said
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: he dropped her off again at the airport, had to
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: go to Florida, right where she had a condo. Correct.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: And it was when she didn't show up in Florida
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: as planned that people started noticing she was missing, and
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: they called her house and Matlick answered and two different
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: people gave varying stories about where she was. Did he
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: say Matlock residents? Right? I mean I mean resident. So
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: here's a couple of pinky details. Matt Matt like I
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: think was the guy, although he disagreed. Uh he um. Well,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the people on the original flight, like the flight crew said, Now,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: she was never on this plane to begin with. Oh,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: from the Mayo Clinic back to Chicago. Yeah, okay, so
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: that stands out as super hinky. Well he wasn't there,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: then he was going to pick her up in Chicago.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't have been in Minneapolis. So if she wasn't
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: on the flight from Minneapolis to Chicago, he wouldn't have
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: had anything to do with that, seemingly, but he Why
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: would he say that he picked her up if she
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: didn't arrive. I'm not saying he didn't know what happened,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: but I don't think he was the one that killed her. Sorry,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: just go well, he he cashed. He was found out
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: later to have cashed thirteen grand and checks with the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Fords signature from It wasn't his handwriting and it wasn't hers,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that's right, but he's clearly working with someone. Sure, that's
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: where I'm going here. Uh. And her brother Charles Voor
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: he's that and Matt like actually burned her diaries after
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: she died, and there's super weird. Well, her brother's explanation
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: was that she was into automatic writing, which is basically
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: where you get a piece of paper and a pen.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Super Victorian, right, and um, you say, oh, spirits speak
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: through me. Oh excellent airbag. Let's see what you got, right,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and you just start the spirits move your hand. And
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: her brother said, uh, she would not have wanted people
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to see this stuff, so we just burned it. It's
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: like the weg Wegia writing. Right, It's exactly like that,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: except with a pen. Interesting. So they were just embarrassed
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: and didn't want that to get out, that's what he said. Well,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a crime to destroy your papers.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: A lot of people made the case that um uh,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Mark Twain should have destroyed his papers rather than allowing
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: them to be published posthumously. I thought you were gonna
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: say Mark Twain got rid of got rid of her,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: But that's impossible. It is in nineteen seventy seven. It
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: is impossible. You imagine Twain in the seventies. I think
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: it would have been much the same. Yeah, yeah, whimsical musings,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: yea with a searsucker suit, sharp, sharp wit, you know, yeah,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: with the series, Yeah, he would have been Tom Wolfe.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: So there's another guy named Richard Bailey who was a
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: vacuum salesman. Apparently he was sort of like dirty rotten scoundrels.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: He would swindle old ladies out of their dough. I
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: think it's more like American gigolo. Uh. Well, no, I
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: don't think he was jigglowing. I think he was. Oh
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: he was. Oh, I thought it just had to do
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: with horses. That was his. Like, invest in this thoroughbread,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: give me your dough, but also come and lie down
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: with me this in the sock, in my jeans. You
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: know that's a gigolo thing to say. Uh. So he
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: was eventually pinched for fraud and racketeering, sentenced to prison.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Um and people thought that he had a role in
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: her disappearance. He said, no, I didn't. And a judge said,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: do you know what I think you did? And he said,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: who cares what you think? Judge? Well, the judge said, well,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you why you should care, because I'm giving
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you a thirty years sentence because I suspect that you
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: had something to do with Mrs Brock's disappearance and likely death.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: So who do you think it was him? I do
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Although he wrote a book, um, that said he loved her,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that he yes, he was a jigglo, just a jigglo,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: but he fell in love with her and his love
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: was sincere and real. Um. And he said that he
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: was going to give the proceeds from his book to
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: her favorite charity, which is an animal welfare charity. And
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: she had her own foundation that she endowed upon her death,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and she was declared dead seven years later in nineteen
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: eighty four, just because that's what they do when you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: don't turn up for seven years and people think you're dead, um.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: And her her endowment basically went toward almost exclusively animal welfare. Well,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: he had already stolen all of her money when he
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: killed her, right, Well, that was the thing. So we
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: sold her some bumb racehorses for three grand and they
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: later sold for one dollar. That's how bad off these
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: race horses were. He said, by Limp Joe, he's a
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: great investment. And the one eyed Pete and they they
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: think that he had her whacked because um, she was
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: going to blow the whistle on him. Interesting, Yeah, that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the theory, right, and I mean he's in prison for
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it right now. He's not in prison for her murder,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: although the judge just said, like, yeah, I gave you
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: a stiff sentence because I think you killed her, kind
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of like when O. J. Was sent in to prison
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: for armed robbery, yeah, and kidnapping and yeah, all these
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: other things. I think it's the exact same thing watching
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that show right now. Now, I'm waiting until it's done
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and then I'll start it. Terrible, well, terribly awesome. Oh okay, cool, Yeah,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I like that. However, I think I'm bailing on it
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: because after a few episodes that was the novelty of
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: it being terribly awesome kind of war off and I'm like,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if I have time to watch
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: something that's good, bad or bad. I think you don't
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: like it's too short, you know, I like it, though,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: you never know. I'll try it for sure. It's bad casting.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Cubic Gooding Jr. Is he not a good O J. Well,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: he's just he's too nice. He's just small, like he
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't look like a football player. Even though he played
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: one Jerry McGuire, Yeah, he did. He played a wide
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: receiver though, what was he He's a running back, was he? Yeah?
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: You gotta be a little stock here and that bigger
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and boy Malcolm Jamal Warner is a c and he's
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: way over the top. Yeah, but it's worth it for
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: just to watch Travolta. It's that's something else he plays.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Robert Shapiro, right, Oh does he? I can't wait to
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: see this now, man. Yeah, it's you should definitely check
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: out of psych the first one at least. Well, since
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: we're so psyched, we should take another break. What do
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you think let's do it? Okay, how about a quick one.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: George Washington's teeth Yeah, here today, gone tomorrow. Yeah. So
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: they were in a storage room at the Smithsonian. They
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: were on loan in uh from since nine from the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: University of Maryland dental school. Right. Yeah. Washington had terrible teeth,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: like me. That's his like that was his cross to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: bear in his life. By the time he was inaugurated,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: he only had one tooth remaining, so he very famously
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: had full dentures in his mouth. Uh. And the providence
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of those dentures is up for debate. They're clearly not
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: they're not wood or wooden teeth. That's an old wives sale.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: But there's things like ivory um gold, real human, real
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: human teeth. And that's where like the debate comes up
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: because some people are like, he these were forcibly taken
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: from his slaves, and other people are like, they might
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: be slave teeth, but he probably bought them. If you
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: really look at his character over the course of his lifetime,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: he most likely wouldn't have had his teeth his slaves
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: teeth forcibly extracted. He probably would have compensated for and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: if you look at contemporary ads at the time, that
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: was a common practice to buy teeth from people who
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: are willing to give him up. Although I'm quite sure
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that somewhere in the US dentures were made out of
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: forcibly extracted slaves, which is like one of the most
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: horrific things I've ever heard of. So in the end,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Washington ended up having four. They're well, probably more than four,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: but there are four existing sets left on display, and
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: one of which was at the Smithsonian until they disappeared
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: um from storage room where only employees had access, so
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: it double locked stories. Yeah, it very much. Is seems
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: like an inside job almost invariably. But it gets a
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: little more interesting because half of them showed back up. Yeah,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the lower the lower half, I think, leave those the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: lower half. Yeah, like a year later, they just suddenly
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: reappeared out of nowhere, and they think that, Um, rather
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: than sell these on the market to somebody like Steven
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Spielberg or something, they they they melted them down for
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: their gold, which is terrible. You know, that's I'd rather
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: have some rich jerk have the full set and just
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: know that they're out there still, then have them melted
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: down for gold. Right. They're like, you can get that anywhere? Um,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: that would be very sad. Indeed. Uh. And to this day,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: they still don't know where those the top set. I'm
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: sorry the Yeah, the top set remains missing. Yeah, it
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: might be someone's wedding ring right now. Wouldn't that be weird?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: That would be really weird, you know. Yeah, Flight nineteen.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Are we moving on? Yeah? I love this one. We
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: covered this one a little bit in their Bermuda Triangle episode. Yeah,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I remember not liking that episode for some reason. I
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. It was basically like, look
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: at all this hokum. Yeah. Yeah, we spent the whole
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: time explaining why that it's not a real thing. Okay,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: well maybe I did like it then, Oh yeah, yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: because it's not a real thing. No, it's not. There's
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: not some mistake. There has been a lot of weird
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: disappearances in that area. That's indisputed, indisputable. Don't even try
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Flight nineteen in December nineteen forty five, there were five
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: planes TBM Avengers, which are torpedo bombers. They took off
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: from Fort Lauderdale on a training mission. Uh supposed to
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: be a couple of hours. Don't go more than a
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty miles, guys, and uh, just come on
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: back and we'll have some hot soup waiting on you, right,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: or maybe it's Fort Lauderdale, some good spato, yeah, or
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Cuban black bean suit maybe oh yeah. Yeah. But they
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: never came back, No, they didn't. Um and back back
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: in Fort Lauderdale. I think at the Fort Lauderdale Hollywood Airport,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: which is what it is now. Back then it was
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: like Fort Lauderdale, right, Um, the they were waiting anxiously
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: for him, and and they never came back, although they
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: did get a radio transmission from the guy who was
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the trainer, Yeah, the flight leader. He said, both my
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: compasses are out for some reason, and we are in
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: big trouble. We have no idea where we are. And
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: they went back and forth with the tower for a
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: while trying to figure out where they were. Uh, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: they changed courses a few times. Then that was the
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: last anybody heard of him. Yeah. So they sent a
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: plane after them, a Mariner aircraft with thirteen men aboard.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: So they already lost fourteen, I believe, from these other flights,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: five planes, and then they sent another plane, right, said,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: another plane. That one didn't come back. People need a triangle. Well,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: that one's no big mystery. They attributed that to an explosion,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: so they think it actually exploded, and well what man,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: it explode aliens, But it didn't seriously disappear, Okay. The
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: other ones definitely did mysteriously disappear, and um they most
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: people thought that they just went um further and further
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: out into the Atlantic. That at one point they were
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: over the Bahamas or Bermuda, which they mistook for the
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Florida Keys, which is not the same thing. And if
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you use that mistakenly, as your bearings, you're going to
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: be in big trouble, and that they ended up just
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: running out of feeling crashed in the Atlantic. But uh,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: in the last year or two, a couple of independent
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: searchers who had this same theory independently came together and said,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you know what, there was in nine a Broward County
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department helicopter spotted the wreckage of one of these planes,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the TBM Avenger, in the Everglades, next to Jimmy Hoffa's body,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: and um, they said, it was so far off from
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: where they thought flight nineteen had been that it couldn't
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: have been one of them. And then they went back
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and looked at the records and they were like, well,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the only missing Avenger planes are from flight nineteen, so
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: it has to be one of them, basically, And they
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: found an aircraft carrier off of Daytona had tracked six
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: unidentified planes that night turning into the Florida mainland, so
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: they think rather than going out to see they turned
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: inland and didn't realize they were inland because the weather
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: was so bad. They were way off course right, and
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: they at least one of them crashed in the Everglades. Yeah. Um.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: The only thing I knew about this previous to this
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: research was the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Oh really they showed up in that, Yeah, I remember
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: that was Um. I never saw the whole thing. Oh man,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: it still holds up. Yeah, like Spielberg knows what he's doing. Yeah.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: And the special effects even still look pretty decent considering
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: you know what what we're how long ago it was, Um,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: they found the planes and the desert. Uh. And the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: idea was that the aliens had had gotten ahold of
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the guys because at the end of the movie, the
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: big mothership lands and they lowered the thing and George
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Clinton comes out, not George Clinton, but all these people
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: come out, and um, people again abducted over the years,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: and the cruise of the Flight nineteen came out still
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the same age as when they disappeared in their flight uniforms.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And they were like, wow, that was weird. They're like,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: what a night And then they went, oh my god,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: it's Richard Dreyfus. I love Jaws. Yeah, I didn't say that.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of it. Was that any good?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Did you watch it? And I didn't catch my attention. Yeah,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I did watch Jaws again the other night for like
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the eightieth time. That's an all time. That'll be great
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: a hundred years from now, and I can watch it
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: every single time. I get right back into it. Amazing. Uh,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Mary Celeste, I thought we had covered this, but we haven't. No,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: this doesn't isn't super mysterious to me. What do you
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: think happened? Well, here's the backstory in case there's anyone
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: on earth that doesn't know about the ghost ship. Uh.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: It was UM in eighteen seventy two, in December UM
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: there was a British vessel about four hundred miles east
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: of the Azores Islands, thousand miles west of Portugal, and
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: they saw this ship, the Mary Celeste, and they went, oh,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: my god, look at that ship. We know that ship.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Let's go over to it and say hello. But there
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: was nobody on board, and they knew that it shouldn't
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: be where it was and that there's something up because
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: the crew that spotted it the um what is it
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the day? Would you pronounce the E and the I? Uh,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I'd pronounced that the de Garrazia. Oh nice, okay, but
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: it's a British vessel so that's probably wrong, so okay,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: but still they could have it named like that, you know.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: So the de Garrazia UM said, well, this Mary Celeste
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: left eight days ahead of us, it should be like
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: all the way to Jenoa basically by now, and it
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be there. And when they looked, there was no
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: one on board. But there wasn't any obvious reason for
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: there to be no one on board. There was a
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: ghost ship, which is awesome in and of itself. I mean,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: it is fairly mysterious UM because is well here here's
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: some of the facts. There were seventeen hundred and one
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: barrels of industrial alcohol on board UM. Only nine were
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: empty because there was one theory that the crew got
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: drunk and they an industrial alcohol industrial alcohol, and UM
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: had a mutiny, right, But that doesn't hold up. It's
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: not a likely story. Now they think the nine barrels
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: UM they were made of a different kind of oak
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: than all the others, and it was a leaky oak,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: so they say it probably just leaked out what else,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: food and water? They had plenty of it still on board,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: six months worth left on board UM. And I think
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: a woman named Mary Thorogood created a documentary about this
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and really like investigated it, and um, these are mostly
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: her findings and they're pretty recent. But um, one of
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the one of the big weird mysteries that the lifeboat
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: was gone right, kind of weird. I think that's because
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: they got on it and left. There was a pump
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: disassembled and there's a little bit of water. But upon inspection,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the Dea Gratia found like, no, those things totally seaworthy.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: She can make it all the way to Genoa and
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: we'll even tow her. And they towed her to Portugal,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I believe, right. Yeah, But here's the thing. Apparently the
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: whole where the flooding was was so crowded that the captain,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Benjamin Spooner Briggs, couldn't get down there. He said he
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: didn't know how much water. So one of the theories
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: is that he thought they had taken on way more
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: water than they had and his family was on board,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: including a little two year old daughter, and he said,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: uh no, let's just get the heck out of here.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not taking any chances, which was a big chance
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: that didn't pay off in and of itself. Yeah, but
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: the abandoned ship is a lass resort like, you don't
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: just say, oh, I think we might be in trouble,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: let's get on out of here on the one lifeboat
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: for all of us, and yeah, in the middle of
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: the Atlantic. That's not yeah, no, you're not going to
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: do that. What do you think happened. I think that
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: that's what happened. I think that he thought they had
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: taken on way more water, he had his family aboard,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I saw they had just been through a bad store
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: arm and he saw the mainland with his own eyeballs
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: and said, this is our chance. Let's not screw around here.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I don't want to sink with mainland and insight. But
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the thing is that the mainland wasn't insight. The Azores
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: are like in the middle of nowhere. They're like halfway
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: between the Atlanta between Europe and um North America. Well
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: that's where they found it eventually. But supposedly he saw
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: the mainland oh yeah, And I think so. And that's
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: why I think that he just said, all right, it's
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: time to go. So there's long been a suspicion that
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: the crew of the day Grazia were the ones who
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: did away with the crew of the mart The last
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: wouldn't it go ship when we found it. Right. So
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the reason they would have done this is because under
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: maritime law, if you find a ship that's insured, the
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: insurer has to pay you a salvage feeds insured amount,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: which they did. They did, but they only got one
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: sixth of the insured amount, which suggests that the British
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Maritime Admiralty Court believed that they were crooked, that they'd
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: done something to the Mary Celeste. We shall never know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: no unsolved mystery. Yeah. In fact, I was gonna say
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: we should do an episode on that and full but um,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I think maybe we should just refer people this stuff
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: he missed in history class, because they did a great
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: episode on that. Yes, Mary Celeste. So we got one
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: more chuck. Alrighty, this might be my favorite one of all.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I had never heard of this, uh pro basketball player
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: who disappeared without a trace. I had neither. His name
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: is John Brisker, right, that's right. He's from Detroit, and
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: he went to your University of Toledo. Actually go uh rockets, Rockets.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: And the thing is while he was at YOUTU, apparently
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: he had had a racially harmonious upbringing in Detroit and
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: got to Toledo and experienced racism firsthand and grew up
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: fairly bitter from it. He was um uh he He
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: had a reputation of having a short fuse after that point,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: which he didn't have before growing up. Yeah. He went
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: on to play pro ball with the A B A
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Condors, and then eventually Um made his way
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: to Seattle with the SuperSonics, and he was good too.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: With the Condors. Over three years, he averaged twenty six
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: points a game the first year. It was the second
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and third years it was about thirty points a game
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: for the year. That's a that's amazing even for the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: A B A. Um, I'm not knocking to A B A.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: They were great. Actually, was there an Atlanta team in
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the A B A. No, it was always NBA. Where
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: did Atlanta get its team from from? Why do I
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: want to say Milwaukee? That was the Braves, jeesu, I
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: can't remember. And the Thrashers were the Flames right. Well,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: now we had the Flames and they just went away,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: and then we created the Thrashers and Flames went out.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: They went out. Now the tough The Thrashers went to
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Canada or something. Yeah, they went to a different city. Uh,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: don't have hockey in Atlanta. I think we've learned our
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: lesson not There's a lot of transplants, but apparently not enough.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: So back to Brisker, he Um eventually played for the Sonics.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: After that he said, I'm gonna open a restaurant that failed,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: and then in night he said, you know what, I'm
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: going to Africa and I'm gonna open an import export business. Yeah,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: but he he wasn't just going to Africa. He went
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to Africa under the invitation of the Ugandan dictator Idi
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: A mean who loved basketball. Loved basketball, and I guess
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I'd heard of John Brisker, and John Brisker said, sure, man,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: let's uh, let's hang out kind of like Rodman with
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Um Kim Jong Un. Yeah, and uh he went and
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: hung out with the d I mean definitely Um. And
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I guess about six weeks after he made it to Uganda,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: he placed a call to his girlfriend and the mother
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: of one of his children, Um Melvis Diane Williamson, right,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and he said, hey, baby, we are going to get
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: back together. I'm gonna have you guys come over here soon.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just laying the foundation. It's all good. I'll see
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you guys, I'll call you in a little bit. And
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: now is the last anybody ever heard from him? Yeah,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: and there, Um, there are many theories on this one.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: One is uh well, I mean figures in a couple
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: of ways. One is that maybe he ran a foul
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: of I mean and was killed by uh, he and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: his soldiers. The other is that he was killed by
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: anti I mean revolutionaries because he was pals with I
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: mean and he was there when the Immane regime was
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: top old, like that's when he was there. Uh. And
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: another one that I don't think it's true at all
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: is that he eventually made his way to uh to
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Jonestown and was part of the Jonestown Jim Jones suicide people.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: That one actually has more legs than it appears at first.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: He had a great aunt who was there who tried
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to get him and other family members to come join
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: her in Jonestown. All right, So we'll give that up.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: So it's like not just totally random. Yeah, you know, um,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: but that's probably probably didn't happen. I think they can't
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: find any real evidence that happened. His brother Ralph said
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: up until he was declared dead, and um, I think
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: nine five, His brother Ralph held the idea that his
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: brother had just assumed another identity to get away from
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: debt because he had like twenty grand and taxes just
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: from that restaurant alone. Um, that used to be a
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: viable option in life. You could just like you, did
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: we ever do a show on that? Yeah? Okay, that
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: was a long time ago. That one might need a
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: dusting off, But it's I think the answer now is no,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: you can't. Yeah, exactly is that it? Sir? I think
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: that's it. Man, unsolved mysteries that may stay unsolved forever.
• 44:44
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