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Jags Drive Time: Monday, October 14 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football, and the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: are going to Goodish Jaguars Digital Jack Jack Warris Digital
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Speaker 1: Jaguarris Drive Time Right and Sex Steps John Jack Jaguarris
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Speaker 1: Drive Time starts right now. Well, yeah, they put you know,
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Speaker 1: lad woman, but they also have a safety on for
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Speaker 1: most of time. So um d J. If he's one
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Speaker 1: on one, I'll take him first anybody, Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: But when when they start putting two guys and get
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Speaker 1: he gets tough, Um, well you know we got we
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Speaker 1: got enough guys you know in that room that can
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Speaker 1: make plays, and we're gonna do better. And that, folks,
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Speaker 1: is the story. Garnerman Choo's worst game we've seen since
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Speaker 1: he's been hearing Jackson. The Saints took away his number
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Speaker 1: one target with DJ Chuck and the Jaguars dropped to
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Speaker 1: two and four, but they lost the Saints at home.
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Speaker 1: As we welcome in Brian Sexton and John Osier for
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time on Monday Morning, brought to you by
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Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans. We talked about earlier in the season
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Speaker 1: when we saw the Carolina and the Saints game coming up.
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Speaker 1: You said, most likely you want to win one of one.
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Speaker 1: You go one of one. Now you're O and two
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Speaker 1: with these two big games, and it's far from ideal.
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Speaker 1: It is far from ideal. You would have liked with
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Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks to have gotten a little bit of traction here.
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Speaker 1: But you know, you wake up this morning and a
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Speaker 1: couple of teams. The Cowboys have lost three in a row.
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Speaker 1: They're a playoff favorite, right the money that they're spending,
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Speaker 1: all that roster. Uh. The Falcons have lost four in
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Speaker 1: a row, and they lost yesterday to an Arizona team
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Speaker 1: led by a rookie quarterback in Arizona, the Rams have
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Speaker 1: dropped three in a row all of a sudden. Um,
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Speaker 1: you are seeing teams that have high expectations flounder a
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Speaker 1: bit too. The Chiefs have lost two in a road home.
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Speaker 1: Who would have thought that was possible. So with six
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Speaker 1: games down, there is a lot of football to be played. Um,
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Speaker 1: the quarterback question comes in now, Um, you know, do
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Speaker 1: you have the quarterback? They can get you there? Um,
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Speaker 1: there are the questions to ask as well, but hey,
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Speaker 1: you're you know, there's you're at the what are you
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Speaker 1: don't even halfway pole? At this point, there's plenty of
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Speaker 1: time for them. Yeah, yeah, something like that. Was it
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Speaker 1: the two thirds poll or the third poll? You're you're
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Speaker 1: in a moment where you're not panicking if you're these coaches,
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Speaker 1: because your defense has shown you they can play a
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Speaker 1: whole lot better. The offense has played better at times.
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Speaker 1: The question and plays Campbell said it best ter today's
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Speaker 1: can we play all three phases together? Can we get there?
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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out. Well, this touches on my hot take,
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Speaker 1: so I'll go easy here. I will say, remember last Friday, Brian,
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Speaker 1: that was a good day. Why did you pick the
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Speaker 1: Chargers in the Steelers game to be your hot? Did
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Speaker 1: I say that to you? Hot game? Right? And I said,
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Speaker 1: because the Steelers in that situation somehow go out and
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Speaker 1: they do it. They did last night. Only playing into
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Speaker 1: what you were said earlier, I would have thought the
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Speaker 1: Chargers were team. But you bet that's another one. You've
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Speaker 1: got six or seven teams that are are doing this. Um. Really,
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Speaker 1: the reality the NFL season is always starting in about
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Speaker 1: week nine, four or five teams get hot and become
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Speaker 1: the teams and all the stuff we've talked about. One
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Speaker 1: of these teams that we just mentioned is going to
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Speaker 1: get hot and be one of those teams. It does
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Speaker 1: no matter which team does it, and it charges absolutely
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Speaker 1: in there at the concern comes and we'll get to
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Speaker 1: it in a Big Thing three about the af C South.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, once you hit big things and then we'll roll.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into big things. Big Thing one
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Speaker 1: is Minshew muted. It was a difficult day to say
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Speaker 1: the least, a hundred and seventy three yards, no touchdowns,
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Speaker 1: one interception, and we saw what happens when a defense
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Speaker 1: takes away his number one target, d J Chark. No.
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Speaker 1: Marshaw followed me with safety help over the top, which
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Speaker 1: takes away uh, pretty much a lot of the routes
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Speaker 1: on my side out of field. So you know, we
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Speaker 1: had to find different ways hit the middle rod calling
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Speaker 1: across the mead orlines. But um, you know they had
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Speaker 1: a pretty good game plan, said tip over the time,
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Speaker 1: making sure that gets over uh pass like yards. You know,
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Speaker 1: big thing too is did their job. The Jaguars defense
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Speaker 1: held the Saints, a very good offense to thirteen points.
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Speaker 1: They didn't enough to win. It goes back to the
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Speaker 1: inconsistency we've been talking about this season. When all three
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Speaker 1: phases played together, they can win. When we can play
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Speaker 1: with all the fenses altogether playing our best, you know
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be tough to beat. This team can be
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Speaker 1: very very special. You know, they have affect. The bill
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Speaker 1: whis Keep guys believing, keep understanding that. You know, when
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Speaker 1: we play all three phases together, you know, I don't
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Speaker 1: think it's a kid in the league that could do this.
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Speaker 1: And I really believe that. I know there's really good
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Speaker 1: teams in this league. But we played with all three pases,
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Speaker 1: you know, playing what we're capable of playing, I think
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Speaker 1: we could beat anybody in the living And I mean
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Speaker 1: that for the Bottomore and big thing three, like Brian mentioned,
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Speaker 1: is the a f C. South. Like Miles said yesterday
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Speaker 1: in the locker room, we have to win, and we
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Speaker 1: have to And now the Texans and the Colts beat
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They're both for into. The Texans have the
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Speaker 1: tiebreaker over you from the win earlier in the season.
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Speaker 1: The time is now. The Colts are interesting to me
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Speaker 1: because they get plowed at home by the Raiders and
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Speaker 1: then they go on the road and they smack the Chiefs.
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Speaker 1: Um the Texans. To me, it's the Deshaun Watson story.
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Speaker 1: Because he didn't get any help from his receivers yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Their defense is okay. Obviously they played really well yesterday,
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Speaker 1: but they don't have that explosiveness that they had when
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Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney was healthy on the field for them. But
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Speaker 1: that quarterback is playing It's like a goalie in the
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Speaker 1: Stanley Cup playoffs. When the goalie stands on his head,
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Speaker 1: you can't beat them. And Watson is playing like that
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Speaker 1: goalie right now. And I'm not sure how you stop
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Speaker 1: that team because he's winning despite some of his offensive
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Speaker 1: weapons being irrelevant. Well the an NFL schedule, sometimes it
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Speaker 1: matters when you play teams. I didn't watch the Chiefs yesterday.
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Speaker 1: I watched part of their Colts game. Clear he's not
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Speaker 1: moving on his ankle like he is when he's right,
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Speaker 1: meaning Mahomes. So the Chiefs, I mean the Texans, and
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Speaker 1: the Colts caught them when Mahomes is a little down.
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Speaker 1: Credit then they take advantaced situation. That's like breaking served.
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Speaker 1: They now have an advantage because they beat a team
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Speaker 1: that most people thought they wouldn't beat. Uh. The Jaguars
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Speaker 1: now have a spot in their schedule where they're supposed
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Speaker 1: to get healthy. But that's my aunt tape. All right,
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Speaker 1: we'll hold off on that. So let's go back. Let's
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Speaker 1: let's let's go back and talk about about Gardner Minshew
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Speaker 1: and they really missed not having a presence in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the field a tight end. Right, they're playing
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Speaker 1: with Jeff Swain, and Jeff Swain and Ben Koyak are
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Speaker 1: essentially the same guy. If they're your two, you'd rather
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Speaker 1: than be your three. Right. They are blockers, they are
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Speaker 1: reasonable pass catchers. They're not field stretchers. They're not guys
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Speaker 1: that are going to help you a whole lot in
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Speaker 1: the passing game. You don't have two game plan for
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Speaker 1: him if you're on defense. Right. But so the point
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Speaker 1: is is that the Saints job, and they're very talented, right.
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Speaker 1: The Saints scheme was to make him hit the honey hoole.
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Speaker 1: You know, in the zone there are gaps. They didn't
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Speaker 1: give him anything easy underneath, they didn't give him anything
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Speaker 1: easy floating down the sideline. They kind of squeezed everything
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Speaker 1: with those safeties over the top and said put the
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Speaker 1: ball right here. Well, and then it was it was
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Speaker 1: paired with a fierce pass rush. I mean, Cam Jordans
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Speaker 1: dominated the rookie. You want Taylor, the pass rush got home,
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Speaker 1: forced him to stay in the pocket and throw. He
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Speaker 1: had a bad day. He looked like a rookie sixth
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Speaker 1: round draft choice. But it was clear to me, besides
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Speaker 1: the fact that the scheme was well executed by a
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Speaker 1: talented team, that they really missed having a tight end
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Speaker 1: on the field, and James O'Shaughnessy, for whatever you think
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Speaker 1: of him, had become a go to guy for Minshew.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully this week Josh Oliver can jump in and make
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Speaker 1: a couple of plays in the middle of the field,
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Speaker 1: because John the Bengals are gonna copy this defense next
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Speaker 1: un to the Jets after them. You've got to be
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Speaker 1: able to hit those honey holes in the defense. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they forced him to do it. It's the classic. They
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Speaker 1: forced him to do what they want to do. You
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Speaker 1: could tell earlier. I tweeted a couple of times he
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Speaker 1: looked like he didn't know what he was seeing for
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Speaker 1: the first time, and it was clear to me that
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Speaker 1: they had a game plan, they had things they wanted
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Speaker 1: to do, and in the first quarter it was clear
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Speaker 1: that the Saints were taking those things away and you
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Speaker 1: saw sort of the hesitancy of Okay, well I can't
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Speaker 1: go there. Then you compound that with when when he
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Speaker 1: tried to run. The Saints actually in the post game
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Speaker 1: yesterday talked more about what they did with their pass
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Speaker 1: rush against Minshew. Then they talked about their defensive backfield scheme.
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Speaker 1: They kept him in the pocket. They didn't wanted him
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Speaker 1: to have mobility, and they did a nice job. If
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Speaker 1: you look against Carolina, Minshew ran for forty five yards.
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Speaker 1: What it was, uh, there was any game early in
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Speaker 1: the season the Texans where he ran. He had two
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Speaker 1: carries for a half a yard yesterday, and even when
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Speaker 1: he was outside the pocket, you could see him not
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Speaker 1: quite sure where to set up. They didn't allow him
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Speaker 1: to get outside and at his feet the way he
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Speaker 1: had maybe the keeling cold play against Denver. So they
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Speaker 1: took the way what he wanted to do. That's what
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Speaker 1: teams do now. Flip and mins you have to figure
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Speaker 1: out what can I do well against this to get
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Speaker 1: them out of this and get back to normal. Look,
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Speaker 1: and we're talking about minshuw magic being overhold on that.
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Speaker 1: This is what happens. Defense has a couple of games
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Speaker 1: on you and they scheme you and if you're a
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Speaker 1: rookie and a sixth round pick at that You're gonna
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Speaker 1: struggle when they do that to you. How do you
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Speaker 1: flip it? What if he goes out this week right
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Speaker 1: understands what he sees. If flipped does an excellent job
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Speaker 1: putting a game plan together and the players go execute it,
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Speaker 1: that's right. You have the planning, you have the execution.
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Speaker 1: They have to go hand in hand. Well, if that's
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Speaker 1: the case, the minshree magic is back. If if it matters.
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Speaker 1: The point is is that sixth round picks are eventually
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Speaker 1: going to struggle. That's what rookie quarterbacks do. Yeah, if
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Speaker 1: this game hadn't happened, eventually, you'd be fitting for a
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Speaker 1: goal jacket in three years. I mean, so we all
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Speaker 1: knew it was coming. It would have been unusual. I thought.
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Speaker 1: Chris Conley was very interesting after the game yesterday, the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars wide receiver. He talked about a lot of this,
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Speaker 1: as a lot of the players did about um the
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Speaker 1: details of what happened, and Chris also said, look, we
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Speaker 1: as wide receivers didn't win in the middle of the field.
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Speaker 1: We didn't adapt as quickly as we needed to in
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Speaker 1: this situation. So yes, they should have come out of it. Yes,
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Speaker 1: Gardner didn't see it, but it's a collective thing. When
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Speaker 1: this happens. There were routes to win in the middle
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Speaker 1: of the field and Chris we didn't do good enough
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Speaker 1: job at that point. Uh. They'll be prepared for it.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure they will handle this situation differently next week
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Speaker 1: when they face it. And now the question is can
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Speaker 1: you turn this into something that's enough of a strength.
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Speaker 1: The teams can't do this, which gets you back to
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Speaker 1: what you like to do, which is go downfield deep.
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Speaker 1: Since you talk about the receivers, I have to say
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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore, that was the first firsthand look I got
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Speaker 1: him on the field. He's tremendous. Uh. The safety Vonn Bell,
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Speaker 1: who was also a high pick, was a force all
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Speaker 1: around the line of scrimmage. I thought the Williams q
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Speaker 1: to who blew up so badly in the Saints Vikings
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Speaker 1: playoff game, was a really nice player. And I'm forgetting
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Speaker 1: the corner on the other side. Their secondary is very
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Speaker 1: talented and you've got a cover guy who plays it helps. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: key well, and look, don't this is not just a
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Speaker 1: backward slap at Jalen he's on the field playing. When
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Speaker 1: you watch him, he comes off as the best corner
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Speaker 1: in football. And by the way, you know we talked
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Speaker 1: about Jalen as being this elite extreme talent. Apparently you
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Speaker 1: can find them from other schools too, So it would
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Speaker 1: behoove the Jaguars to start drafting with Corner and mine
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Speaker 1: next year and finding another one of those guys. Before
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Speaker 1: we go to highlights. I have a question because I've
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Speaker 1: been seeing it all over social media and fans reaction
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Speaker 1: about Gardner Minshew holding onto the ball too long, which
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Speaker 1: in my opinion he does do at times. But if
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Speaker 1: you look at yesterday with the pass rush coming at him,
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Speaker 1: forcing him in the pocket, the routes not being what
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Speaker 1: he sees, what's the guy supposed to do? Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean he helded too on yesterday. Um, I think I
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Speaker 1: don't for Gardener, but it looked like he held the
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Speaker 1: ball at times in the past. He's done it and
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Speaker 1: he's created plays out of it. Okay, well, yesterday he
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Speaker 1: did it. Because when you're not sure what you're seeing
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Speaker 1: and you don't want to make a mistake, uh, and
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Speaker 1: you're not playing instinctively, which once those receivers on the
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Speaker 1: outside were taken away. That was clearly their first option.
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Speaker 1: Their their comfort zone is to go outside. Uh, and
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Speaker 1: and and go to the wide receivers. Now he's holding
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Speaker 1: the ball too long going to the middle of the field,
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Speaker 1: because the Saints had their defense geared towards that and
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Speaker 1: they were ready for it. Gardener knew me through the
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Speaker 1: middle of the field. It was gonna be trouble. It was.
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Speaker 1: But that's what caused the hesitancy. I don't I think
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Speaker 1: that's more young quarterbacks stuff. Uh, you didn't mind it
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Speaker 1: when you're making plays. Off held the ball a long time.
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Speaker 1: When on the past Armstead in Denver and he was
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Speaker 1: a hero, people used to complain about how quickly playing
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Speaker 1: Gabbert got rid of the ball because he didn't want
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Speaker 1: to take a hit. This kid will hold onto the
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Speaker 1: ball and allow the route to develop. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's not the tallest and and the line is being
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Speaker 1: pushed back into him by the pass rush, and he's
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Speaker 1: called he waits. He's giving his receivers a chance hold
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Speaker 1: on if he makes plays. No one says he's holding
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Speaker 1: the ball too long. That's low hanging fruit. People are
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Speaker 1: just looking for any explanation. You want this guy to
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Speaker 1: hold the ball to make the play. No one got open.
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Speaker 1: And as much as he looked like a rookie, the
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Speaker 1: one thing during the game, you know, if it had
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Speaker 1: if it had been he had played out differently, had
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Speaker 1: written this more on the website. He's still maintained his
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Speaker 1: composure and still got you a couple of field goal
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Speaker 1: drives when things were going really bad. Uh, he had
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Speaker 1: the one turnover, He had a couple that could have been,
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Speaker 1: but he maintained his composure. He still had a couple
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Speaker 1: of plays where he made it and I got you
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Speaker 1: into it. I thought all the stuff that he had
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Speaker 1: shown in the first four or five games, he's still
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Speaker 1: had in terms of uh, not panicking, not letting get
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Speaker 1: away from him. Yesterday he just ran into something that
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Speaker 1: they didn't have an answer for. And uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's not a sixth or seven and there a guy
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Speaker 1: where he can go to the sideline after the first
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Speaker 1: series and say, okay, I've seen this. DJ. You switched
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Speaker 1: to this, Chris, you switched to this, and then we're
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Speaker 1: going he doesn't have that encyclopedia of knowledge, yet he's
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Speaker 1: got a pamphlet of knowledge sixth round pick uh And
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Speaker 1: one other thing. Did I hear people complaining about toddwalh oh?
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Speaker 1: Of course, when a defense holds an NFL offense, especially
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Speaker 1: one that put up thirty one points the week before,
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Speaker 1: and I think they're averaging during your thirty points a
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Speaker 1: game to thirteen, they did their job. It's it's we
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Speaker 1: expect nothing less. Sean Payton is one of the great
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Speaker 1: offensive minds in the game. He found some mismatches with
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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas in the second half and got him working
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Speaker 1: against linebacker um. They got rid of the ball in
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Speaker 1: a hurry. They didn't drop back and take these seven
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Speaker 1: step drops too often. It was well executed, but you
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Speaker 1: you held him too. Thirteen points. That should be good enough.
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Speaker 1: I always get complaints. Fans always complain when defenses don't
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Speaker 1: blitz well. When you're down your best cover corner, you
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Speaker 1: tend to blitz a lot less because blitzing takes people
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Speaker 1: out of coverage, and if you blitz, you're gonna have
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Speaker 1: a lot more big plays. That wasn't the that wasn't
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Speaker 1: the design. You stay, They held them. Their defense is
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Speaker 1: not the same without Jalen Ramsey. That's not news to
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Speaker 1: anyone we've definitely they still yeah, they still held the
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Speaker 1: Saints to thirteen points. Defense was not the problem. It's
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Speaker 1: inconsistency we talked about week to week. Don't know what
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get. All right, let's dive more into this
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Speaker 1: This weekend into some highlights from yesterday's lost the Saints
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Speaker 1: thirteen six Here in jackson Let's go first quarter Saints
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Speaker 1: driving and we've seen it now the past few weeks.
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Speaker 1: Picking on Trey Herndon Bridge Water far side of the
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Speaker 1: field that is hold right at the course down marker.
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Speaker 1: It's little things like this. Well, and they converted on
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Speaker 1: that drive alone. They can for the third and thirteen
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Speaker 1: and then third and nine to get on the board first.
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Speaker 1: And and that was a mismatch. That was the tight end.
18:06
Speaker 1: Jared Cook a late signing and free agency, if I recall,
18:11
Speaker 1: and a guy who had kind of you know, we've
18:13
Speaker 1: wandered around at the Titans, and the Rams, and the
18:15
Speaker 1: the Raiders and now the Saints. He's always given this
18:18
Speaker 1: team trouble. And that was a classic mismatch. I got
18:20
Speaker 1: a six ft five and thirty five pounder Andre Herndon. Well,
18:24
Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy that teams that are close,
18:26
Speaker 1: and the Saints are proceeds being close to the Super
18:28
Speaker 1: Bowl team. Veterans tend to sign with those teams. You
18:32
Speaker 1: think they got shot the Super Bowl, which is that's
18:33
Speaker 1: the way of the world. Uh. I didn't necessarily think
18:36
Speaker 1: that was a bad play by Trey Herndon. I tweeted
18:39
Speaker 1: out yesterday that teams target Trey Herndon over and over
18:42
Speaker 1: and over, which they clear they do. But I thought
18:44
Speaker 1: yesterday he handled it about as well. I didn't really
18:49
Speaker 1: see Jalen's absence as being just glaring yesterday in terms
18:53
Speaker 1: of certain plays that weren't made. It's always glaring because
18:57
Speaker 1: it allows you to do so many different things in
19:00
Speaker 1: the secondary that we don't even see. But yesterday I
19:03
Speaker 1: thought Trey Herndon played maybe his best game since he's
19:06
Speaker 1: been in the starting line up. Well. And look, if
19:08
Speaker 1: if you're the offensive coordinator, if you're the quarterback, of
19:11
Speaker 1: course you're gonna go after who you're gonna throw it.
19:15
Speaker 1: You're looking for the weak spot in the defense. And
19:18
Speaker 1: I don't mean weak in a negative term towards Trey Herndon.
19:21
Speaker 1: That's where you're gonna target spot, absolutely the spot where
19:24
Speaker 1: you have the chance. And again they did a great
19:26
Speaker 1: job getting the tight end on him when the Jaguars
19:29
Speaker 1: were playing some version of zone and he got stuck
19:32
Speaker 1: with him. And by the way, he's off topic of
19:34
Speaker 1: better game from Miles Jack yesterday and people were ready
19:38
Speaker 1: to pounce on Miles Jack. Yes, Jack got a lot
19:40
Speaker 1: of emails. Uh, you know, when's he gonna get his
19:43
Speaker 1: head out of his rear end et cetera said there
19:46
Speaker 1: was a player too early that he chased. Uh, there's
19:50
Speaker 1: also a play where he's on Michael Thomas, which immediately
19:53
Speaker 1: that's gonna you know, you're gonna lose that if you're
19:55
Speaker 1: Miles Jack, if your linebacker. But Miles hadn't been playing
19:58
Speaker 1: as poorly as people had been saying, despite the film,
20:02
Speaker 1: and I thought he played better yesterday. One of the
20:04
Speaker 1: credit because he was your hot take on Friday, Well
20:08
Speaker 1: that too, trying to take too much credit around here,
20:10
Speaker 1: but not right in the lineup they benched Quincy Williams
20:16
Speaker 1: until all of a sudden, You know, the environment around
20:19
Speaker 1: you matters. When you have a guy that you're not
20:20
Speaker 1: having to put in provision, right, it makes him better.
20:26
Speaker 1: The reason that I used him as my hot take
20:27
Speaker 1: last week or my my right was because he stood
20:32
Speaker 1: in the locker room after Caroline and he took all
20:34
Speaker 1: the blame. And if he took all of him, then
20:36
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of credit for the way that
20:38
Speaker 1: these guys played. Camaro was not Latavius Murray ran hard.
20:41
Speaker 1: Those two guys had seventy five yards rushing. The veteran
20:46
Speaker 1: played like a veteran. That was important. And Miles made
20:48
Speaker 1: it known yesterday in the locker room that he likes
20:50
Speaker 1: him in the lineup. All right, let's go to the
20:53
Speaker 1: second quarter, things get rolling somewhat for the Jaguars offense.
20:56
Speaker 1: He needed to see more drives like this to win.
21:00
Speaker 1: On third and five, Minshew dancing okay over the middle
21:05
Speaker 1: wide open is d J. Chark and Chark inside the
21:09
Speaker 1: thirty five to about the thirty two yard long Minshoe
21:13
Speaker 1: and the Jacksonville offense throwing out over the middlelards complete inside.
21:17
Speaker 1: It's tad So this drive leads to a field goal.
21:21
Speaker 1: Would have liked to get a touchdown here. Yeah, same
21:23
Speaker 1: thing with the fourth quarter drive, you know. I mean
21:25
Speaker 1: the inability in the red zone to get into the
21:27
Speaker 1: end zone cost them yesterday. As as poorly as the
21:30
Speaker 1: offense played, they still gave themselves a chance to win
21:35
Speaker 1: the game. And that was the story the week before
21:38
Speaker 1: when they played well in Carolina. They just couldn't get
21:42
Speaker 1: the deal done. A couple things by those highlights you
21:44
Speaker 1: could even see on the chart play across the middle,
21:47
Speaker 1: try to get outside and they wouldn't let them. I mean,
21:49
Speaker 1: that's the different thing that we're talking about defensively, but
21:52
Speaker 1: they could not get to the size of field. Everything
21:54
Speaker 1: was geared out there. It seemed to me. I haven't
21:57
Speaker 1: talked to flip about it, but they tried to use
21:59
Speaker 1: Leonard for Nette the slant a little like they normally
22:01
Speaker 1: would have a tight end, trying to get something going inside. Uh.
22:05
Speaker 1: And a status saw yesterday after the game out of
22:10
Speaker 1: the Jaguars eight or nine drives first forward punts, which
22:13
Speaker 1: tells you, I'm not quite sure what you're seeing. Okay,
22:16
Speaker 1: we're not gonna throw it downfield into coverage, not taking
22:18
Speaker 1: a chance and get out the field and see what's
22:19
Speaker 1: going on. Uh, trying to play smart. Early also only
22:23
Speaker 1: had one drive with more than two first downs, So
22:25
Speaker 1: that's I'm not converting. Uh. Doug talks about it, and
22:29
Speaker 1: he's he's talked about several times when Doug was talking
22:31
Speaker 1: about Leonard at very end of his prescott and said, again,
22:34
Speaker 1: didn't get him enough carries. When you're not converting third downs,
22:38
Speaker 1: you don't get your guys enough opportunities. Uh. That's been
22:41
Speaker 1: in a Chila's heel of they're offense so far. All right,
22:43
Speaker 1: let's go to the fourth quarter. Game basically slips away
22:46
Speaker 1: at this point, and we see why Michael Thomas is
22:48
Speaker 1: so talented on this drive. Are you's gonna throw for?
22:52
Speaker 1: Pulls it down now? Throws and so all taught and
22:55
Speaker 1: touched down touch downs to their tight end. But this
22:59
Speaker 1: entire drive was Michael Thomas getting them there, and that
23:01
Speaker 1: was Sean Payton moving him around, getting matched up with
23:04
Speaker 1: Nagy Good a couple of times, and that's a complete
23:07
Speaker 1: and utter mismatch. And there the ball was just thrown
23:10
Speaker 1: perfectly to a spot where a six ft five tight
23:12
Speaker 1: end with long arms can go up and get it.
23:15
Speaker 1: It was to ask the defense to keep them out
23:18
Speaker 1: of the end in the entire game was way too much,
23:20
Speaker 1: especially without Jalen Ramsey. True, they let him in once,
23:24
Speaker 1: They let him in once. Yeah, and U I have
23:28
Speaker 1: nothing more to add on that comment, simply just true.
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Speaker 1: by n c u A. The one thing I can say,
25:26
Speaker 1: we know we're right there in every game, seven points
25:30
Speaker 1: things like that, So we just gotta, you know, continue
25:33
Speaker 1: to fight, Uh, try to be the explosive offense that
25:36
Speaker 1: we can be. In our defense, continue to be who
25:39
Speaker 1: they were today. The fight of the team is there
25:43
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. You've seen it in every single loss.
25:45
Speaker 1: They haven't given up. It's been close games, just hasn't
25:48
Speaker 1: gone their way. And now it is time for Bernie
25:50
Speaker 1: wood Fire. Grill hot takes Brian hit it. He says,
25:55
Speaker 1: John here tagline, Oh, how could you forget grill light?
26:03
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. What d J. Chark said
26:06
Speaker 1: leads right into what you have to say. And the Jaguars,
26:10
Speaker 1: I don't think they're in real trouble yet. And I'll
26:12
Speaker 1: explain why. Um, when the Minshew thing happened, meaning when
26:17
Speaker 1: Foals went out, we all said, hey, you know, if
26:21
Speaker 1: they can get to five and four by the time
26:23
Speaker 1: Foals gets back, they'll be in good shape. Right, I mean,
26:25
Speaker 1: wasn't That's sort of the given? And I think the
26:28
Speaker 1: thing we learned yesterday, as much as I said, my my,
26:31
Speaker 1: he will, he won. He might last week was Gardners,
26:33
Speaker 1: the guy. Garners the guy. Well, let's see what happens
26:36
Speaker 1: in the next three weeks now, because now we're at
26:38
Speaker 1: a point where that's got to be proven. Got to
26:40
Speaker 1: play it out. Um. But I thought going into all
26:44
Speaker 1: this that they'd be two and four at this point.
26:47
Speaker 1: I've said that a couple of times, and I don't
26:49
Speaker 1: think you would have thought that. The way they got
26:51
Speaker 1: to two and four is very unusual. They lost to
26:54
Speaker 1: the Texans in the Chiefs, who might be two of
26:55
Speaker 1: the best teams in football, and they beat the two
26:58
Speaker 1: beatable teams, the Heightens and the Broncos. And the last
27:02
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I thought, Carolina on the road and
27:04
Speaker 1: home agains New Ones, we're gonna be really, really tough.
27:07
Speaker 1: But you thought that they could win and should win. Frankly,
27:11
Speaker 1: Cincinnati the Jets, and you ought to beat the Texans,
27:15
Speaker 1: who you lost by one point too in what for
27:19
Speaker 1: you is a home game. So you thought on paper
27:22
Speaker 1: five and four that maybe the Texans and Titans things
27:26
Speaker 1: have already happened, might go the other way. But two
27:29
Speaker 1: and four wasn't illogical. You ought to win these next three.
27:32
Speaker 1: Now the problem is you have to there's no wiggle
27:35
Speaker 1: room to get to that point. But I think they'll
27:40
Speaker 1: be favorite the next two weeks. I would think, or
27:42
Speaker 1: I'll consider him a favorite there three and a half
27:43
Speaker 1: point favorite, and I wouldn't be You know, the way
27:47
Speaker 1: they play in London, the way they played against the Texans,
27:50
Speaker 1: if it was just that game with me surprised that
27:52
Speaker 1: they won. That they're not in trouble unless they lose
27:56
Speaker 1: one of these next three and then all of a
27:58
Speaker 1: sudden they're fighting uphill. Ye good take, you're fired up? Ye?
28:06
Speaker 1: All right, Brian, what do you got? Uh? Jalen Ramsey
28:09
Speaker 1: UM is going to make himself irrelevant here in Jacksonville.
28:12
Speaker 1: He once again last week was the story he was
28:15
Speaker 1: practicing a bit, the owner met with him, and then
28:18
Speaker 1: the owner on the floor of the New York Stock
28:19
Speaker 1: Exchange has yeah, something like that. Um told the street
28:25
Speaker 1: that he expected Jalen to play. Well. I don't expect
28:28
Speaker 1: that the owner is going to have anything to say
28:30
Speaker 1: this week, right Uh, either way, I don't expect that
28:33
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is going to make himself available to play.
28:36
Speaker 1: Uh this clearly, and look, he's not talking and when
28:40
Speaker 1: you don't talk, people in our position have to infer right.
28:44
Speaker 1: So my take on this and it's it's it's coming
28:47
Speaker 1: up here in ozone two. Is that where he would
28:49
Speaker 1: play through injuries before and he has you know, we
28:51
Speaker 1: all know that. They're from Fridays where you thought is
28:53
Speaker 1: he going to play this week? And he always did.
28:55
Speaker 1: Now he's not right. He's not taking one for the
28:57
Speaker 1: team because he's not getting what he receives is what
29:01
Speaker 1: he deserves. So he is pouting right, um, And I
29:07
Speaker 1: think that what's gonna happen is the media is gonna
29:09
Speaker 1: grab onto another story because the owner is not going
29:11
Speaker 1: to make it about Jalen this week, and Jalen will
29:16
Speaker 1: not play in Cincinnati and not play in New York
29:18
Speaker 1: and get to the twenty nine and the in the
29:20
Speaker 1: deadline and still be here but not playing, and then
29:22
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's not the story at all
29:24
Speaker 1: and he becomes irrelevant. Especially if the Jaguars do what
29:27
Speaker 1: you said, go win a couple of games without him
29:30
Speaker 1: about then it's a matter of why is he even here?
29:34
Speaker 1: Just go home. You know, we'll do with you what
29:37
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers did with Keyshawn Johnson all those years ago,
29:40
Speaker 1: and that is you're inactive until we tell you that
29:42
Speaker 1: you know you're not, or you tell us you're ready
29:44
Speaker 1: to play, and then he just slowly fades from consciousness.
29:48
Speaker 1: Other teams won't be talking about him, which means Schefter
29:51
Speaker 1: and Rappaport and that whole Twitter crew won't be bringing
29:54
Speaker 1: him back to the forefront. To the benefit of the
29:56
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Ravens and the Eagles and the teams
29:59
Speaker 1: that were interested in him trying to kind of force
30:01
Speaker 1: this trade as part of the news cycle, He'll just
30:04
Speaker 1: become oh, yeah, he's not playing a Jackson Well on
30:07
Speaker 1: the pregame shows today, Tony Boselli and I talked and
30:10
Speaker 1: I think it's party now. I'm worried about Jim. Will
30:13
Speaker 1: he ever play again? I mean, if this back is
30:16
Speaker 1: keeping him out three weeks, can he return and play
30:19
Speaker 1: at a high level in the NFL? I think I
30:20
Speaker 1: think that becomes the story. The concern, uh A, godspeed,
30:27
Speaker 1: you're a sensitive guy, that you're that worried. Well, I mean,
30:31
Speaker 1: he's a great player, and if his back is bothering
30:34
Speaker 1: him this much as much as he loves his teammates,
30:37
Speaker 1: which he made clear three weeks ago, if if, if
30:41
Speaker 1: this is keeping him out. Then this is a real concern,
30:43
Speaker 1: you know, one of the thing. And I don't know
30:44
Speaker 1: what was said, but I was coming off the field
30:47
Speaker 1: from the halftime the twenty five team as he was
30:49
Speaker 1: coming out of the tunnel, and a fan yelled something.
30:51
Speaker 1: Didn't hear what it was, and he turned and gave
30:53
Speaker 1: it right back to him. So now he's feeling the
30:56
Speaker 1: fans have turned on him. He was beloved and now
30:58
Speaker 1: they've turned on him quick too quickly. So the sense
31:03
Speaker 1: here is is that by the twenty nine the whole
31:06
Speaker 1: thing just kind of slides into obscurity. I mean, frankly,
31:08
Speaker 1: after the he is irrelevant because why bother talking about
31:12
Speaker 1: anything At that point, there's unless he's playing, there's no
31:15
Speaker 1: point in having the conversation. And by the way, if
31:17
Speaker 1: I send him home, if I'm the general manager, I
31:19
Speaker 1: send him home and I say we'll call you. Don't
31:22
Speaker 1: call us. We don't there's nothing we can say. In fact,
31:25
Speaker 1: if he calls here, right the only person I let
31:29
Speaker 1: him talk to is the owner. Technology being what it is,
31:31
Speaker 1: I'm sure they can connect him hold on one SEC,
31:33
Speaker 1: connect him to to Mr con cell phone wherever he
31:35
Speaker 1: is in the world. The only person I let him
31:37
Speaker 1: talk to is the owner. I try to distance him
31:40
Speaker 1: from the locker room. And by the way, it got
31:41
Speaker 1: the sense last week maybe you did too, that the
31:43
Speaker 1: players are worn out on this as well. They just
31:46
Speaker 1: they don't even want to hear about whether he is
31:48
Speaker 1: he gonna play, is he not gonna play? Is he
31:49
Speaker 1: gonna practice today? Or is he not going to just
31:52
Speaker 1: let the whole thing go away? Uh? And Jalen, it's coming.
31:55
Speaker 1: The twenty nine is coming. It is two weeks from tomorrow,
32:00
Speaker 1: and then it's over for the rest of the season.
32:03
Speaker 1: And who knows if he plays again, right, I mean
32:06
Speaker 1: if again, if I send him home, I don't call him.
32:09
Speaker 1: I don't call him in February. I don't call him
32:10
Speaker 1: in March. I don't call him in April unless someone
32:12
Speaker 1: gives me a hall. I might. I might make him
32:15
Speaker 1: wait till August before I call. Are you coming to camp?
32:19
Speaker 1: Because if not, we're not paying you, You're not getting
32:21
Speaker 1: We're going to start finding you. We're going to start
32:23
Speaker 1: making this uncomfortable on you like you had made it
32:26
Speaker 1: uncomfortable on your teammates. And I don't foresee I don't
32:29
Speaker 1: think any of us foresee anything happen while I'm going
32:32
Speaker 1: let me go all the way down the road. You know,
32:35
Speaker 1: if he is just not if this is what it
32:37
Speaker 1: seems like, he's impacting people's lives. He has impacting coaches, players, futures. Right,
32:44
Speaker 1: he's part of the team. He's supposed to be working
32:47
Speaker 1: for his teammates. There are coaches and assistant coaches who
32:51
Speaker 1: if the defense doesn't perform, who get fired, right, Players
32:54
Speaker 1: who could get cut it you start impacting other people's
32:58
Speaker 1: lives when you start doing this, it looks completely and
33:01
Speaker 1: utterly selfish. His life is about to be impacted because
33:03
Speaker 1: he's not going to be on the field, he's not
33:05
Speaker 1: going to be in the public arena. He becomes irrelevant
33:09
Speaker 1: and that is a heavy word. And let's hope we're
33:11
Speaker 1: wrong on all this. And as I said, you know,
33:16
Speaker 1: a three week back injury, it's serious. Beautiful. Yeah, that's good,
33:25
Speaker 1: all right, just the negatives. Now, let's go to the
33:27
Speaker 1: positive in the secondary, and that is d J. Hayden.
33:30
Speaker 1: My hot take is DJ Hayden is the m v
33:32
Speaker 1: P of the defense right now. Yes, for what he
33:35
Speaker 1: does on the field, twenty tackles in a sack on
33:37
Speaker 1: this season, but he's so even keel, and he is
33:40
Speaker 1: doing the opposite of what Jalen is doing right now
33:43
Speaker 1: because it goes unnoticed and I think it's highly underrated.
33:46
Speaker 1: What happened last week in Carolina. He was hurt, He
33:48
Speaker 1: was in a boot on Saturday, and it was up
33:50
Speaker 1: to a game time decision whether he would play in Carolina.
33:54
Speaker 1: He goes and tested out right before the game. He
33:55
Speaker 1: goes to coach Maron and says, Yeah, I want to play.
33:58
Speaker 1: Even though I'm hurt, I'm still It's the complete opposite
34:01
Speaker 1: of what we've been seeing with this team in the secondary.
34:03
Speaker 1: His on field performances even kill in the locker room.
34:06
Speaker 1: He's a guy we need to talk more about. We
34:08
Speaker 1: didn't get the chance last year because that toe injury
34:10
Speaker 1: robbed him of a big By the time he got
34:12
Speaker 1: back from the toe injury, UH, the Jaguars season was complete,
34:15
Speaker 1: So we didn't get a chance to see him at
34:17
Speaker 1: his best. We didn't get a chance to really get
34:19
Speaker 1: to know him at old. UH. Completely different story with
34:22
Speaker 1: him this year. A veteran guy, a guy who was
34:25
Speaker 1: a first round pick in expectations and in oapland he
34:28
Speaker 1: goes to Detroit. He finds a place here where he
34:31
Speaker 1: feels comfortable. And one of the reasons I think the
34:34
Speaker 1: defense has a chance to be successful without Jalen, he's
34:37
Speaker 1: because he's back there. Yeah, and I got some tweets yesterday,
34:40
Speaker 1: Oh why don't they put him in Jalen's all the spot. Well,
34:44
Speaker 1: he's really flourishing in the nickel role. He has awareness, Uh,
34:49
Speaker 1: you blitz more from there. He's a good tackler. I
34:51
Speaker 1: don't think you would see quite the impact if he
34:54
Speaker 1: and he could do the job outside. I don't know
34:56
Speaker 1: if you would see him at the same impact. I
34:58
Speaker 1: think what you started to say, Brian really pertinent. This
35:01
Speaker 1: is a guy who was I think number twelve. We're
35:03
Speaker 1: all picking the draft and they're not a saken a
35:05
Speaker 1: lot of high expectations and uh probably disappointed at his
35:10
Speaker 1: first stop more than anything in terms of where he
35:13
Speaker 1: was drafted, and a lot of guys in that situation
35:16
Speaker 1: never find a niche here. He has turned himself in
35:20
Speaker 1: a in an era where the the nickel corner matters
35:23
Speaker 1: a great deal, He's turned himself into one of the
35:25
Speaker 1: better nickel corners in the NFL. It's not easy to do.
35:28
Speaker 1: So it's a cool story that You're right, got lost
35:31
Speaker 1: because he was hurt last year, and I think so
35:33
Speaker 1: maybe right he's playing as well as anyby on the
35:35
Speaker 1: defense right now besides Josh Allen, which I almost said
35:39
Speaker 1: he's the best player on defense right now, but Brian
35:41
Speaker 1: reminded me that Josh Allen's playing Josh Allen is really
35:43
Speaker 1: playing well. There's some guys who are playing well. It
35:45
Speaker 1: just gets lost despite the fact they only gave up
35:48
Speaker 1: thirteen points. So there's more than a few guys playing well.
35:50
Speaker 1: All Right, let's visit the ozone mail back the all right,
36:04
Speaker 1: we're gonna summarize this one. It's a bit of a
36:06
Speaker 1: long one. Mike's on a bit of a rant here.
36:08
Speaker 1: It's about pass interference. It's the old thing, you know
36:14
Speaker 1: every time coaches challenge right now, this stupid defensive pass
36:19
Speaker 1: interference rule, that you can challenge it. It's exactly what
36:22
Speaker 1: you thought it would be. Teams challenge it, they go
36:25
Speaker 1: to the booth and they and they say, well, we
36:28
Speaker 1: can't find enough to overturn. It was the problem with
36:31
Speaker 1: the rule in the first place, that when you try
36:34
Speaker 1: to challenge what is by definition a judgment call where
36:38
Speaker 1: there is contact, some level of contact on most plays,
36:41
Speaker 1: the clear and obvious is what they have trouble finding.
36:46
Speaker 1: They clearly don't want to find it. In some cases.
36:49
Speaker 1: Um uh. There's different takes on it, and I understand
36:53
Speaker 1: them all. The bottom line is it's not so much
36:56
Speaker 1: New York not wanting to overturn all this, but it's
37:00
Speaker 1: where you find the line. It's it was the problem
37:03
Speaker 1: with the rule in the first place. If I do
37:05
Speaker 1: this to you, Brian and the balls on the way,
37:07
Speaker 1: is that interference? If I do this to you, I
37:09
Speaker 1: do where's the line this technically is interference? Well, that
37:13
Speaker 1: doesn't you know? It's it's a bad rule that should
37:16
Speaker 1: have never been playing in the first place. Get it out.
37:18
Speaker 1: It slows the game. It was silly, it was reactionary.
37:22
Speaker 1: It was because of twitters with everybody was mad about
37:24
Speaker 1: the Saints. You can't legislate every bad call in every
37:29
Speaker 1: bad situation out of the league. Sometimes they're going to happen.
37:32
Speaker 1: They have been in life. It's just the way it is.
37:34
Speaker 1: You can't control everything. What I thought was absurd, and
37:37
Speaker 1: I don't need to suggest that I think that Trent
37:40
Speaker 1: Green was absurd to say this, but he was trying
37:42
Speaker 1: to explain how they don't just watch it in slow motion,
37:45
Speaker 1: because when you watch it in slow motion, you can
37:47
Speaker 1: easily see that the defensive back collided with the receiver.
37:52
Speaker 1: They've got to watch it in full speed to understand
37:54
Speaker 1: exactly why it was or was not called. We'll hold
37:57
Speaker 1: on the whole reason for instant replay was to slow
37:59
Speaker 1: it down one. But now you're saying that in slowing
38:01
Speaker 1: it down, you got to speed it back up. And
38:03
Speaker 1: what's the point. It's stupid, you cannot And here was
38:06
Speaker 1: the worry on my part at least, was okay, if
38:09
Speaker 1: they had success with this, in other words, if it
38:11
Speaker 1: was fifty fifty. I think yesterday the stat was twenty
38:14
Speaker 1: out of twenty one challenges so far in the league
38:16
Speaker 1: this year, the last twenty one since Week three, I
38:20
Speaker 1: think was the stat. But regardless, over the top preponderance
38:24
Speaker 1: of evidence said leave the play the way it was called. Um,
38:27
Speaker 1: I was worried that it would have success. And they say, okay,
38:29
Speaker 1: well let's now use it for offensive line holding, right yeah.
38:32
Speaker 1: I mean you can't interpret everything. You just can't. You.
38:36
Speaker 1: At some point you have to live with it. I
38:38
Speaker 1: used that the scenario before. I'll just summarize it World Series.
38:42
Speaker 1: Baby Don Denkinshire called garth word safe at first base,
38:46
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals lost the World Series in that moment
38:49
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the of the eighth inning. No
38:51
Speaker 1: one died because of it, No one. Cardinals have won
38:54
Speaker 1: a bunch of World Series, but you're still talking about it.
38:56
Speaker 1: I'm just pointing out that. I mean that moment the St.
39:00
Speaker 1: Lois Cardinals lost the World Series on a bad call.
39:03
Speaker 1: No one died because of it. I'm sure they're hockey
39:05
Speaker 1: fans and football fans. You can point out other situations.
39:08
Speaker 1: How about Colorado's fifth down, infamous fifth down at Missouri.
39:13
Speaker 1: No one died of it. Mistakes happen. They happen all
39:16
Speaker 1: the time. In a game that moves like that bang
39:18
Speaker 1: bad Right, You're not not unless you go to a
39:21
Speaker 1: robotic system, You're not going to be able to get
39:23
Speaker 1: at all. And if you go to that, everything will
39:26
Speaker 1: get stopped every play and the game will become unmanageable
39:29
Speaker 1: and unwatchable. Well to live with people. I used to
39:32
Speaker 1: hear coaches and players say this more, and it's somehow
39:34
Speaker 1: gotten out of the out of the conversation. Yes, officials
39:38
Speaker 1: make mistake, but coaches and players make mistakes every play.
39:42
Speaker 1: This is a game of imperfection. Sure, you strive to
39:45
Speaker 1: get it right, but in this case, with interference, you
39:48
Speaker 1: simply it is simply not a rule that lends itself
39:52
Speaker 1: to replay. Uh. The Saints, poor them, didn't go to the
39:57
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I get it. If it was the Jaguars,
40:00
Speaker 1: we would still have our hair on fire about it.
40:02
Speaker 1: But it happens, and just because it happened doesn't mean
40:05
Speaker 1: you necessarily go legislate the mistake of it. Legislate survived
40:10
Speaker 1: pretty well. Yeah, they're doing just fine. New Orleans is
40:14
Speaker 1: still standing at A friend does send me a picture
40:16
Speaker 1: this morning from his coffee and Benyette Cafe Dumont. The
40:19
Speaker 1: world didn't come off of its hinges. Everyone needs to
40:23
Speaker 1: just relax and understand it's never going to be perfect never. Yeah,
40:28
Speaker 1: I agree. Good, All right, let's go to Mike from Atlanta.
40:34
Speaker 1: The back injury from Jalen Ram seems like a big coincidence,
40:37
Speaker 1: coinciding with him demanding to be traded. Maybe I'm just cynical.
40:41
Speaker 1: What options do the Jags have assuming this continues? Mike's
40:45
Speaker 1: onto something here. Yeah, I guess we kind of rolled
40:47
Speaker 1: up on this before and you know, the options are
40:50
Speaker 1: let him sit, or the options are he comes back,
40:54
Speaker 1: and you know you can let it play out where
40:57
Speaker 1: you assume that this is a bad injury of the
41:00
Speaker 1: seriousness that it clearly is, and you let a play out,
41:05
Speaker 1: and you say, when the back is healthy, you play. Uh.
41:08
Speaker 1: The teams have kept guys who are injured not on
41:12
Speaker 1: I are act of hoping they'll play. I think that's
41:16
Speaker 1: your that's your play. And if if you do believe
41:19
Speaker 1: that he could be playing, then the option is to say, Jalen,
41:24
Speaker 1: here's how much we love you. Here's how much we
41:27
Speaker 1: respect you. That's because you have respect in this day
41:29
Speaker 1: and age, Brian Um. We respect you so much that
41:34
Speaker 1: we want you to be at Jaguar for the next
41:37
Speaker 1: three years no matter what. That's how committed we are
41:40
Speaker 1: to you. Jail. I think seriously, that's what you said.
41:43
Speaker 1: You know, there's an option where you say that a book,
41:46
Speaker 1: we love you and if you're going to play football,
41:48
Speaker 1: we love you so much we want you to play football.
41:50
Speaker 1: Here surprise, there is no surprise here. They badly mismanaged
41:56
Speaker 1: the situation. They should. We were talking about an example.
41:59
Speaker 1: There were some one who was oh yes, handled it
42:03
Speaker 1: he's gonna be paid. He handled the right. He went
42:05
Speaker 1: out and played yesterday seven catches, three touchdowns. That's the
42:08
Speaker 1: way that you played it. As bright as as Jaitalen's
42:11
Speaker 1: agent is. And I did a lot of reading about
42:13
Speaker 1: is it Molghetta? David Molghetta, very very bright, very much
42:18
Speaker 1: a power broker now in the NFL. He is a
42:20
Speaker 1: rising star among agents. He misplayed this one. It happens
42:24
Speaker 1: because everyone in Minnesota this week is talking about Stefon
42:27
Speaker 1: Diggs earning his new contract, because even though he was unhappy,
42:30
Speaker 1: gone on the field and did something about it was misplayed.
42:33
Speaker 1: And at some point if you say, you know what
42:35
Speaker 1: we displayed this one, We're sorry for any distraction we've caused.
42:38
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back and play and we'll talk about
42:40
Speaker 1: contract later. Uh. Doug Marone would run to put his
42:44
Speaker 1: arms around him like the father to the prodigal son.
42:46
Speaker 1: That sort of thing happens all the time, all the time.
42:50
Speaker 1: There's no better and I won't belay it a better example.
42:53
Speaker 1: The right here in the building. Unique was as mad
42:55
Speaker 1: as anybody in August and like he's playing like a pro.
43:00
Speaker 1: Uh again, I don't know what's going on. With Jalen,
43:04
Speaker 1: but the example is unique. Yeah, and by the way,
43:08
Speaker 1: he's still not very happy about it, but has yet
43:11
Speaker 1: to complain about it. Well, he's going to earn a
43:13
Speaker 1: contract either here or somewhere with his performance on the
43:16
Speaker 1: field this year. Big plays are still ahead for your Unique,
43:18
Speaker 1: and Unique loves the game and loves his teammates and
43:24
Speaker 1: lives for it. And it's proving it's not just lip service, which,
43:26
Speaker 1: by the way, is what Jalen gave us when he
43:29
Speaker 1: talked about how he was going to be there for
43:30
Speaker 1: his teammates at that post Houston news conference that he
43:33
Speaker 1: did here I recall it. Well, it was a good one.
43:37
Speaker 1: All right. Let's go to Todd to John. Hey, John,
43:41
Speaker 1: no magic this week? What did you see from the
43:43
Speaker 1: Saints defense, if anything that other teams might try to exploit?
43:46
Speaker 1: I noticed Minshew hopping around on his toes a little
43:49
Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah, what we notice is what we talked about,
43:54
Speaker 1: teams will play to take away the receivers, takeaway chart
43:59
Speaker 1: and or some middle of the field because right now,
44:02
Speaker 1: as Brian said at the very top, they haven't shown
44:05
Speaker 1: they have the middle of the field option that scares
44:08
Speaker 1: teams the way the receivers do so until they prove
44:12
Speaker 1: they can beat that, that is what you will say.
44:14
Speaker 1: This Bengals team does not have the defensive personnel that
44:16
Speaker 1: the Saints do. They probably can't execute it as efficiently
44:20
Speaker 1: as the Saints did. It's one thing to have a
44:22
Speaker 1: system set in place and hey, this is our plan.
44:25
Speaker 1: It's another to have the horses that can run that
44:27
Speaker 1: race for you. The Saints obviously do. The Jaguars may
44:30
Speaker 1: be able. He may be able to stand in the
44:32
Speaker 1: pocket or escape the pocket better than perhaps he could
44:36
Speaker 1: this week. You know, we're going to find out more importantly,
44:39
Speaker 1: the question is, and I get it, he's a rookie,
44:42
Speaker 1: third round pick and he hasn't played since July. Can
44:45
Speaker 1: Josh Oliver play this week and give them at least
44:48
Speaker 1: the threat of something in the middle of the field.
44:51
Speaker 1: You hope so, because by the way it looked with
44:53
Speaker 1: Jeff Swaine yesterday, I wouldnt expect him to play this week.
44:57
Speaker 1: It looked like he was out on his way to
44:58
Speaker 1: the ground. That was scary. Okay. I had a check
45:04
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Speaker 1: folk Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding. Um. I'm gonna say so,
47:06
Speaker 1: how about this? Yesterday the Titans fall sixteen to nothing
47:11
Speaker 1: to the the Denver Broncos and Mario to seven of
47:16
Speaker 1: fifteen for sixty three yards in a pick and they
47:19
Speaker 1: bench him right. Um the situation there. Ryan Tannehill comes
47:24
Speaker 1: and he can't do all that much better. I think
47:25
Speaker 1: he completed about the same amount, you know, percentage wise
47:28
Speaker 1: of his passes hundred and forty yards. But you know,
47:30
Speaker 1: obviously they didn't score. I've got to go back the
47:35
Speaker 1: day that they drafted Blake Bortles here in two thousand
47:37
Speaker 1: and fourteen, I said to Dave Caldwell, why didn't you
47:40
Speaker 1: just wait? I mean, did you love this guy up?
47:42
Speaker 1: I mean, next year, you've got Jamis Winston and Marcus
47:45
Speaker 1: Mario to coming out at the top of the draft,
47:46
Speaker 1: and you could make a play on it. And he
47:48
Speaker 1: looked me in the eye and he said, I didn't
47:50
Speaker 1: like either one of those guys as much as I
47:51
Speaker 1: like this guy. And you know what that's played out,
47:53
Speaker 1: because you know, Bordles took this team for whatever he
47:56
Speaker 1: did or did not do the rest of the time,
47:58
Speaker 1: he got this team to the custom of the Super Bowl.
48:00
Speaker 1: Neither one of these two guys have even come close
48:01
Speaker 1: to that. Um, I'm stunned that Marcus Mariota hasn't been
48:05
Speaker 1: able to perform better because I think he's a good quarterback.
48:09
Speaker 1: He should look good, and at times this year he has.
48:12
Speaker 1: He threw three touchdowns in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago.
48:15
Speaker 1: But he's benched, or at least he's on the way
48:18
Speaker 1: to being benched. He was yesterday. Well, um, yeah, the
48:21
Speaker 1: storyline in Tennessee has been he had to be the
48:23
Speaker 1: guy this year and show him and uh, when this
48:27
Speaker 1: happens you're planning night. It would take a huge comeback
48:29
Speaker 1: now for him to be their franchise quarterback the future.
48:32
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Tennessee U I'm a little surprised at that.
48:40
Speaker 1: I'm surprised I didn't compete more against Denver. They seemed
48:44
Speaker 1: to me like a nine and seven type scrap team.
48:47
Speaker 1: That's what they've been the last couple of years. I'm
48:48
Speaker 1: surprised that they're in this situation well, and they got
48:51
Speaker 1: to nine and seven last year because Derrick Henry took
48:53
Speaker 1: over and teams have found a way to slow him down.
48:56
Speaker 1: I think he had fifty rushing yards yesterday too. He
48:58
Speaker 1: has not done much on the oun this year. Kims
49:00
Speaker 1: have figured out a way to stop him. So, uh,
49:03
Speaker 1: stay tuned. We'll see the Titans again later in the season.
49:05
Speaker 1: Up next, a young quarterback that at least coming into
49:09
Speaker 1: the season the expectations were over. This is Minnesota that
49:13
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs seven of seven catches, a hundred and sixty
49:17
Speaker 1: seven yards and three touchdowns. Kirk Cousins through four touchdowns yesterday.
49:22
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, the story was Cousins is a bust
49:25
Speaker 1: eight four million dollar quarterback. Stefon Diggs wants to be traded.
49:28
Speaker 1: We heard that before all smiles, and I think there's
49:31
Speaker 1: some rumblings now that maybe the Vikings are going to
49:34
Speaker 1: to send some money. The way of Stefon Diggs to
49:40
Speaker 1: I mean, he went out in the field and he played.
49:42
Speaker 1: He didn't sit out with it this hamstrings bothering me.
49:45
Speaker 1: My toe, my toe, it hurts you played. That's all
49:51
Speaker 1: you can ask for. And then the last one is
49:53
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, who was the toast of the league before
49:57
Speaker 1: the season began, all that caught swagger stuff that he does.
50:01
Speaker 1: And eleven interceptions in six games leads the NFL. And
50:05
Speaker 1: it's the most by a Browns quarterback. And if you
50:08
Speaker 1: follow the Browns, um since I think they've had like
50:12
Speaker 1: thirty different quarterbacks, so there's a lot of guys. It's
50:14
Speaker 1: the most picks through six games by a Browns quarterback
50:17
Speaker 1: since way back in four So the Browns the most
50:22
Speaker 1: talented roster in the NFL, proclaimed by the media. Uh,
50:25
Speaker 1: you know, they bring in Jarvis Landry, and they bring
50:27
Speaker 1: in Odell Beckham Jr. And they signed everybody under the moon,
50:31
Speaker 1: and um, Baker Mayfield is thrown it away. There two
50:34
Speaker 1: and four. They are probably a year away and being
50:38
Speaker 1: clearly wanted to hear that. The quote team of the
50:41
Speaker 1: offseason All Caps that gets there by signing skill guys
50:46
Speaker 1: is rarely the team that hasn't play out. It's a
50:49
Speaker 1: hard league for that to come together quickly. I guess,
50:53
Speaker 1: is all this talent they have, they're probably a year
50:56
Speaker 1: too early with the hype and they'll be fine next year.
50:58
Speaker 1: But to me, it was an easy call that they
51:00
Speaker 1: would struggle early because that team historically usually is not.
51:04
Speaker 1: Remember in the mid nineties the Dolphins had like eighteen
51:09
Speaker 1: first round picks in THEIRS because they had signed all
51:11
Speaker 1: these free agents. It's different, but hot offseason team in
51:14
Speaker 1: this league, it's so tough to get everything right that quickly.
51:19
Speaker 1: If Mayfield was playing well, they might look different. Right,
51:23
Speaker 1: But he threw three picks yesterday at home, So eleven
51:27
Speaker 1: and six games, that's almost to a game. You can't
51:29
Speaker 1: win with that. You're going to with that? I know
51:31
Speaker 1: I will forever be cautious now of who's on the
51:33
Speaker 1: cover of ESPN in the off season, because I've I
51:36
Speaker 1: was one with them. I thought, man, how can you
51:38
Speaker 1: beat them? When you look at the roster? Boy was
51:40
Speaker 1: I wrong like the rest of America. But these two
51:42
Speaker 1: guys are right, So listen to them. Not nothn alright,
51:46
Speaker 1: Stay tuned Jaguars Happy Hour later on this afternoon conference
51:50
Speaker 1: call with head coach Doug Brown at two o'clock, Stay
51:52
Speaker 1: tuned for what he has to say on the Twitter sphere,
51:55
Speaker 1: and we'll be back Wednesday morning right here on Jack
51:57
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