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Building a Lifetime Career in the Elevator Trade | Will Fleischer · The Elevator Careers Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: Man, in general, it's it's a great career.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's um, you know, provide a great living for your family.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you get in there at while you're young, you know, stay with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's so many benefits, and uh one of the few, I mean, there's so many good things you can say about it, but one of the few um trades that still has a pension.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, we've got a lot of great benefits.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh the medical and and dental and vision are second to none.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just get in there, stick with it, work hard, work safe, especially.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, pay attention when you're being when you're learning new skills.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and if you get a chance to learn some of the old ways of doing things, you know, learn as much of that as you can too, because a lot of that um is going by the wayside.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's good.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the main thing is just work safe and stick with it, and you'll you'll do well for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hello, and welcome to the Elevator Careers Podcast, sponsored by the Allred Group.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am your host, Matt Allred.
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  SPEAKER_01: In this podcast, we talk to the people whose lives and careers are dedicated to the vertical transportation industry, to inform and share lessons learned, building upon the foundation of those who have gone before to inspire the next generation of elevator careers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today our guest is Will Fleischer, a 25-year veteran of the elevator industry.
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  SPEAKER_01: Will first got into elevators by answering a newspaper ad, and he has never looked back.
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  SPEAKER_01: Will has worked in and around Texas throughout his career in a variety of roles and companies, and he currently owns and runs his own elevator inspection company.
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  SPEAKER_01: Most of all, Will loves coaching and developing the next generation, making sure they have all that they need to stay safe and be successful.
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  SPEAKER_01: Will, welcome to the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, Matt, it's a pleasure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, likewise.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm uh I'm pleased to have you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Always enjoy the conversations and and uh yeah, it's good to good to be able to connect.
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  SPEAKER_01: And love to start by just kind of finding out how did you get in the elevator industry in the first place?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, um, so back in the old days, I say I could say that now, with 25 years in the business, we um we used to answer ad in the papers.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I actually answered an ad in the paper and started working for a small mom and pop um belt and cage manlift company in North Texas.
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  SPEAKER_01: So some people might say, What what's the paper, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: The newspaper, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, yeah, yeah, classifieds.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember those days.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep, classified ads in the newspaper.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just just happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was working at a car lot at the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh just read through the paper, was looking, and answered the ad in the paper.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh so they were looking for a mechanic, is that what it was?
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  SPEAKER_00: They were looking for a helper.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and me having no experience whatsoever.
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  SPEAKER_00: I walked up there, uh, interviewed that very day, and it turns out that uh one of the supervisors there knew my dad, so that kind of helped me out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, I give the give the kid a shot.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they uh they hired me and um yeah, I never looked back.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was excellent.
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  SPEAKER_01: A mom and pop was at like uh um did they do commercial elevators?
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  SPEAKER_01: What was what were they doing?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, so well, so they uh it was a lot of in industrial type stuff, so uh power plants and um uh grain silos, uh chemical plants, that kind of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: So industrial type areas uh have uh belt and cage man lifts.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So like a small special purpose personnel carry is another name for them, like a small, just a cage elevator where you you push the button and hold it the whole time to ride up or down.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the other is a continuous belt that you just basically there's holes in the floor, the continuous conveyor belt that's vertically uh oriented.
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  SPEAKER_00: You walk up and there's a handhold and a foot, and you just a foot step and you step on it and hold on to the handhold and up you go.
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  SPEAKER_01: That sounds scary as heck.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I'm not familiar with that, but yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, especially the first couple of times you get on one, it's uh it's a little creepy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no creepy.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you just yeah, you just jump on a conveyor belt and and and does it slow down?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, when you get to your floor, or do you just gotta bail?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, so there's a rope pull on the side that you use to turn it on and off, but there's um there's sensors.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for instance, there's hoods on the floor openings.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you're leaning out to one side and you bump the hood, there's a like a mercury switch in there that'll try to keep you in there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and it'll turn the unit off, actually.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then uh there's over travel switches like you would have on an elevator, only it's um well, probably more akin to what you would see on an escalator with the the step roller comes in and punches a switch and turns it off.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's several safety mechanisms on it and over travel bar.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, they're they're a little sketchy.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna lie.
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  SPEAKER_01: Did you did you work on rack and pinion as well?
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  SPEAKER_01: I hear that term and okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, actually.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, in fact, I I can remember one on the side of a grain elevator in Corpus Christi that was really tall that I had to work on from time to time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, yeah, I worked on a couple of those.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's how you got started.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and uh you say it's a helper, so you eventually became, I guess, a mechanic, or what was your progression there?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I worked as a helper for several years uh on doing that and then uh moved into the passenger elevator side of things doing construction, started out as a helper there and just uh kind of worked my way into yeah, into a mechanic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um did a lot of government contract work and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: I started out non-union, so you know, government contract work all over the country, just kind of following the work wherever it got.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lots of travel then.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, construction, modernization.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: What were some of your early learnings and and things that I mean it sounds like it was a whole new world for you?
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  SPEAKER_01: What were some of the the you know, the things that light bulbs going off or or just learning to survive in this world?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, I mean, pretty quick, you know, and as a young man raising a family, pretty quick I learned that I can make a pretty good living doing this if you work hard.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, you sometimes you have kind of have to follow the opportunities uh where they're at.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's what I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I learned to live on a little bit, you know, and you're having to move around and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's um it takes a lot to do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also learned how to, you know, how to um write off moves on taxes and just capture every benefit that I could along the way.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, finally got enough of all that moving around stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so we moved back to uh the Dallas area in 2006, and I started to work for Schindler then um so and then I had to go through the neeps school because I didn't quite have enough time in the trade for them because I guess if you have eight years, they they'll basically give you a card like a mechanic because you have yeah, you have the on-the-job hours.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I had seven years, so they gave me a big stack of books and said, here you can test out um in 40, you got 40 days, study all this.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can test out of two years with your experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: I sat for the exam, both exams at the same time and passed them um after studying my butt off.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and then I I went ahead and took two years of the school.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um within a within a year, about a year, I was set up as a uh a TM doing mods.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they had me doing hydro mods on my own with a helper.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that was great.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then once I got my mechanics card and passed the test, man, I wouldn't you couldn't stop me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh got into the service.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I got in the service department about that time and just loved it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it was so so you, I mean that that seemed like it really hit a spot for you, but uh prior to that, I mean, did you feel like you kind of hit a groove?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you ever look back and think, man, I want to go back to the used car lot or uh no, not the car lot, no, but um there's times where I've thought about picking my tools up again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that kind of neatly segues into the next phase of my career where I um I went into uh the business side of things.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was in modernization and and service um for better part of seven years and yeah, decided I wanted to learn the business side of things, kind of open up that part of my career and uh just learning a whole new thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's basically it's a career change.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's the same industry, but you go in the office, it's uh it's a whole different game.
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  SPEAKER_01: So when you said uh learning the business side, was that what it was you you moved from uh being on in service in the field using your tools to more of a like a superintendent role?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah, superintendent operations manager, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So went to work for TK, well, it's TKE now, it was Tiss and Corrupt back then.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um went to work for them and started in Tulsa as a um service repair and modernization.
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  SPEAKER_01: So another move, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Sounds like you went to Dallas and then back to okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, my career's bounced around a little bit, but um, I can honestly say it's just because I was following a trail.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, if there was a better opportunity, I would I didn't mind jumping up and going after it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, um, so ended up up there for a little while and then was back in Texas.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then they called one day and said, Hey, do you want San Antonio?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's a graded branch, it'd be a great opportunity, kind of the next step for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like, sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: So ended up down there and and uh had some changes in my life, ended up moving back up to the DFW area and was doing inspecting for a while, and now I'm back as a superintendent.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's so you spin full circle.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So so you actually uh you know ran your own business as an inspector for uh what a few years, two or three, four uh two and a half years, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: What was it that led you kind of that direction?
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  SPEAKER_01: Was it was it uh did you need to get out of the field or or or out of the office or yeah, so not necessarily needed to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I I had some family things that came up.
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  SPEAKER_00: So basically that that's what moved me back to the DFW area.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um there there really wasn't a whole lot of opportunity at that time, and and I'd kind of waited around for about a year, and uh there just wasn't anything that that could make a move within the company.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, okay, I'm gonna have to figure out something.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's when I decided, yeah, I had some friends that were doing inspections down there and and and did pretty pretty well with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of course, they had been in business for for years, and um so I thought I'd take a crack at it and I did okay with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, that you know, the the market's pretty well represented here in the DFW area, and the cost of insurance and just everything was a little more than I think I I wanted to take on as just a single guy wearing all the hats.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's kind of what led me.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's it's interesting you say that the the market's well represented because there are certain markets around the country where I have multiple companies knocking on my door, hey, find me an inspector, and the inspectors I I talk to are like, leave me alone, you know, stop calling me.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Famine, huh?
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  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, well, yeah, it just seems like in certain markets there's there's a drastic shortage.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're saying in DFW that is not the case.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh it doesn't seem to be.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: No, uh-uh.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, that we've got a couple of big players here that do pretty well, and um, I'm not gonna say that there's not work out there.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: There is, you just kind of have to chase after it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, it was a little more, you know, I'm not gonna say it wasn't worth yeah, worth it, but it because it was, and I learned a ton about running a business and because I just kind of did it all, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, did you have employees or were you I had a part-time guy that okay?
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  SPEAKER_00: I had a part-time guy that was helping me out a little bit here and there, but for the most part it was me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, I handle all the bookkeeping, the paperwork, everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, yeah, that's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because I think in uh in Texas, and from what I hear at least, Houston, I think is the only city that has their own city inspectors, and outside of that, everything else is like third party.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and and as we talk about it, you know, there are when I mentioned the the markets that have a shortage, it it's typically those markets that that have some higher criteria.
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  SPEAKER_01: So maybe you know you don't necessarily get people flowing in and out as much and saying, hey, I got my QEI, I'm ready to go to work.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, no, you gotta stand in line, and sometimes that may wait take a long time, and so it uh can uh can can make it feel like there's a shortage, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's what I was getting at.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So a lot of a lot of times, or at least speaking from what I've seen here in Texas, um, guys retire out of the field or or the office, and it's it's a good way to continue, you know, continue being active, being in the industry.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think it's a good thing because a lot of guys, unfortunately, when they retire, I mean, their health just kind of starts going south.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so if they can get do something to keep themselves going and keep moving out there, then um, and they enjoy it, make a little money, and you know, it's good.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's we see a lot of that in Texas, uh, or at least in my experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, certainly for union mechanics, you know, inspecting is something that that doesn't, you know, isn't a threat in any way.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're you're not gonna be at risk of of losing any kind of benefits.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whereas if you were to move to a non-union shop or or consulting, or there's certain things that it's like uh-uh, you know, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, yeah, you kind of have to be careful with some of that stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, especially the going, yeah, you don't want to go to work for the non-union stuff anyway.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, um the inspecting thing gives them some freedom and and um I think it's good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you said you you recently started again with with Kone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um what was it that kind of led you back to the to the majors, or did you did you look at some smaller shops as well?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or yeah, I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh just so they like to promote from within, which is I completely respect that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um so they're just the opportunity hasn't been available for a smaller shop, and it's not to say um, you know, that I may or may have not have done something that way, but um the Kone opportunity came available, and it's it's like a small mom and pop shop in a big company.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're kind of one of the last companies that's uh that's still playing the game that way, and I totally respect that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, so I I've had the just the best warm welcome and it's been great.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um what would you, you know, as you look at your career, you said 25 years, you've you've done a whole lot of different things.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um, what would you say to those who are listening today about your career or or you know, elevator careers in general?
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  SPEAKER_00: Man, in general, it's it's a great career.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's um, you know, provide a great living for your family.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, if you get in there at while you're young, you know, stay with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's so many benefits, and uh one of the few, I mean, there's so many good things you can say about it, but one of the few um trades that still has a pension.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, we've got a lot of great benefits.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh the medical and and dental and vision are second to none.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just get in there, stick with it, work hard, work safe, especially.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, pay attention when you're being when you're learning new skills.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and if you get a chance to learn some of the old ways of doing things, you know, learn as much of that as you can too, because a lot of that um is going by the wayside.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: So that's good.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: But the main thing is just work safe and stick with it and you'll you'll do well for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: And well, and it seems like you, I mean you you obviously took opportunities, you said I was kind of following a path, you know, kind of you know, learning new things and and new places, new people, new things.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it does seem like you've you've got you know, within yourself kind of this set of tools that knowledge, experience where you you can kind of write your own ticket a lot of different ways, right?
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: You have a lot of options when it comes to where you want to be, what you want to do, um which which is I don't know, I think that's a a great spot to be in, you know, just to have that many options.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I can yeah, I guess so.
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  SPEAKER_00: I could definitely go a bunch of different directions.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so uh I can say I've I've enjoyed the trip that I've had.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really looking forward to the future and um yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Awesome, awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you you've kind of uh you know I I guess the the next question I was gonna ask is you know the advice you would give to somebody that that's newer starting out, but you've you've kind of already uh answered that.
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  SPEAKER_01: But um what what I guess what I want to say is where would you like to end your career end your career?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean you've uh and not just location wise, but yeah, what do you see yourself doing?
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: Man, good question.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think one of my favorite things uh especially about being on this side is is coaching and developing the the next generation that's coming up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um so we had a fresh helper, I mean, just brand new, come in the other day and to start uh his first day.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was it was good getting to see that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it it's a different feeling from you know 10 or even 15 years ago when I'd see a helper come in.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, here's another one, let's go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh now it's hey, you know, I want this kid to succeed.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and so I think the coaching and developing side of it for me is is the way going forward and bringing up the next generation, teaching them how to do things right and how to do it safe.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I would have to say that's probably where I see myself going from here.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you do you feel like the um the mentoring, the coaching, the development you're you're providing is is a different from what you received 25 years ago?
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: To some degree, yeah.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: Mechanics were a little harder on us, I think, back then.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um so you know, if you you you didn't show up at 7 a.m.
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  SPEAKER_00: You were there at 6 45, you had the gang box open at 7 a.m., tools laid out, ready to go.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, you had your pencil, your tape measure, and your pocket knife with you at all times.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, that's just the way it was.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I don't know, the way the industry's changing a little bit, I think there's still that same spirit involved.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's just maybe aimed in a different way.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, sure.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and and that might be generational, you know.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh to go back a few and and yeah, yeah, they're just kind of a harder way of dealing with people and and for sure.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe we don't need to be as hard as we used to be.
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  SPEAKER_00: So right.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: The generation before me, I mean I I heard stories of guys saying that you know helpers didn't even eat lunch with the mechanics.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like you sit over there and I sit over here, and I'm glad it's I heard some stories, yeah.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: Some of those old timers were were hard.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, yep.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh well, Will, um, what else would you like to share before we end?
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um no, just recap.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely if you get in if you get in this industry, you won't regret it.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um assuming you get in, you work safe, you work hard, you um, you know, get out there and make it happen.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you'll make good money, you'll you'll do well for your family.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: So uh it's been good for me.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully it'll be good for you too.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: Great.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thank you.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being on with me today.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, glad to be here for sure.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: It was fun.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: Likewise, yeah.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: And good luck to you as you continue to build your career and start on your next journey.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate that.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 20:08
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• 20:15
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• 20:24
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