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  Nobody can hear anything that was just for that.
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  You can hear us now, baby. You can hear us now on this
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  beautiful Friday, Friday, November 21st, 2025, Very
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  special day. Why is it a special day to have?
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  I it's we're including the not including they've always been
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  included, right? That we're we're being, you're
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  being more accommodating to our friends across the pond.
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  That's right, that's right. We have some very, very European
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  friends, some very, very European listeners.
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  And you know what we wanted? We wanted to make sure they got
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  heard on this very special IAE. So what we're going to do today
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  is also very special because I don't know if you know this tab,
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  we have Twitch. Drops.
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  I've heard of this. I don't know, I don't know
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  anything about it. Probably be great to educate our
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  listeners. So there's a really cool set of
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  it looks like purple, purple and like gold, purple and yellow
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  armor that they're that they're just giving away there.
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  And all you got to do is you have to listen to a Star Citizen
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  stream that has drops enabled, just like your good friends over
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  here, open comms Radio and you listen to it for four hours or
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  so and then you get the drop. So if you were lucky for you to
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  tune in this morning three hours ago, well, you only have one
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  more hour left and and we hope to fill it with tales from
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  Levski, tales from Europe and tales from our our European
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  compadres. But I do want to start the show,
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  Tav. I'm asking you how you been,
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  buddy. You haven't been on for a few
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  few episodes now. I've been lurking.
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  No, I'm, I'm still, yeah, I'm just lurker status.
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  I I still, I still watch the show.
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  Still. You know I'll I'll come in and
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  check it out get the ponderings, but yeah, not planning a whole
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  lot, but probably back now more yeah, this I'm loving the new
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  the new ship so. Did you go into?
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  Did you drop into IE this morning?
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  Not this morning. Did did some last night fun, you
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  know, around that new vandal stuff.
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  Did that. OK, that was the first vandal.
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  Did you get the the frozen the cryopods with the vandals in
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  them? Yeah, yeah, I probably hit a few
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  people in the face with them. Well, that's, I don't know where
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  they go after that, but I, you know, I got them to the the
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  elevator. Yeah, you got to be careful, you
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  know, flailing those things around.
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  And I love the new guns, the new, the new, the, the space AK
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  different, different FPS experience.
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  So frankly for me, like when you hear all those, the bigger ones
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  going next to you, it's a it's a different firefight.
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  Yeah, the space AK feels a little like actual first person
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  shootery. Yeah, it's like a different FPS
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  experience. It's kind of.
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  I like it. Yeah, it's very classic.
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  It's very much a classic. It I mean it's space AK because
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  it looks and feels like an AK47. Yeah, and I love that like the
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  spread after a couple, but you can still get a couple, you
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  know, the first couple rounds down Ranger.
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  Yeah, they're right where you're pointing.
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  So yeah, love the love it and the and the LMG is a lot of fun.
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  Oh, the the new one, is it the Fresno?
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  Is that what it's called? The punish, Punish.
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  I'm going to get this wrong. Punisher.
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  It starts with P Pulverizer. Punisher.
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  Pulverizer The pulver. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I heard that has like a lot a
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  huge spread on it though. Like you can't really hit with
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  that. I'm all about the atmospherics
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  and you get 3 other people all with like pulverizers or squat
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  of five pulverizers all shooting.
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  It's just yeah, doesn't even matter if it's accurate.
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  You got those are they're big rounds right?
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  So. OK, OK, well, what I'm going to
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  do today is a little different than our usual show and our
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  usual show, we have a question every week and everyone can call
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  in. We did that a couple nights ago.
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  You can listen to that show on the YouTube, on Spotify, or if
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  you want to listen to it, this show's a little different to
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  accommodate our Europeans. No question.
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  OK, It is just IAE special European spectacular.
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  So we'll we'll ask our, our, our, our new guests different
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  things. And we we have a guest we
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  haven't heard from ever who's going to pop in here today.
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  I'm going to invite him here and all he has to do is is give a
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  little accept say he's OK for us to to run him on the live and
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  here he is Raven Fort. Good evening or good morning
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  depending on on where you are good.
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  Afternoon. Hello.
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  Dear Raven. It's great to be here.
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  Thank you for inviting me. Thanks for coming on buddy.
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  Thank you for accommodating us Europeans.
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  Definitely, definitely this week's question special for our
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  Europeans. How did David Hasselhoff tear
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  down the Berlin Wall? With Chupa Chups, you know, like
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  lollipops. I thought you were going to sing
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  with the power of music. Oh well, yeah, musical is very
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  powerful. So, Raven, you've been playing
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  Star Citizen for a while. How long you been playing this?
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  This crazy game I. Think it was 2020.
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  Yeah, yeah. In the midst of COVID.
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  OK. And so now that you're here,
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  you're here. OK?
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  So you're here five years later? Almost exactly.
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  Five years later, yeah. We have a new IAE, how you
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  feeling about it? What do you think?
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  Well, you know, after all these years, a little bit of the the
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  dream of Star Citizen magic feeling a little bit has faded.
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  There are more realistic parts of the game, like it's the game
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  has grown a lot in these five years.
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  I remember when I when I started, you had no inventory.
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  It was like global inventory. You could take out weapons every
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  moment, anywhere without any problem.
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  Right now it's impossible, you know, and we are on the verge of
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  going to engineering. It's going to change completely
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  the way we play the game completely.
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  So a lot of the the dream of concept shapes what Star Citizen
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  might eventually be at some point that that is gone.
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  But we are starting to touch on what is actually Star Citizen
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  and. What do you think?
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  That is? If if you could if you could put
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  it into a couple sentences here. A buggy mess, but no, I mean.
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  There. You know it's hard to to answer
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  right now. Since we are.
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  On the verge to engineering and a lot of changes.
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  I think it doesn't have doesn't reach its own identity
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  completely. It's still a little bit not sure
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  what the game wants to be because there we have base
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  building engineering, all the FBS stuff and on the other side
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  more of the flight seem still the flight model is changing.
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  Some point is more Arcadia, some point more PvP focused on our
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  point is more suitable for fleet, but also it's still a
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  buggy mess. But it's our buggy mess.
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  Do you do you think it's directionless?
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  And I feel like you're saying it's like without a true
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  direction. Yeah, yeah.
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  I think it maybe not completely directionless, but there there's
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  a clear problem in yeah, I'm not sure that Chris or whoever is
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  running the the show knows. The fastest way to implement
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  some of this? Some of our fixes.
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  For. Desires.
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  Sometimes because. Because.
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  OK, so one of the main things of Star City is and it's built on
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  dreams of the Baker, right? Right.
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  And this is actually one of the big changes that we're getting
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  this year is the first IE without concepts.
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  So you're not selling the the dream anymore?
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  That is true first, IE without a concept ship, without a jpg,
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  yeah. Well, what are you talking
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  about? Old Jpegs.
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  Yeah, yeah. Oh, you're saying that?
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  Oh, instead of like we just got straight new ships this time.
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  Yeah, they said they're not going to, I think forever, but
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  we'll see. But they they said they're not
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  going to do concepts anymore. Yeah, forever is a long time.
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  Oh, fate forever stuff. But.
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  It it looks to be a good a good, I don't know this especially
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  with the Perseus, it looks to be a good financial certainly in
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  the last yeah. Much money they made yesterday.
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  Dude, we went out yesterday. We had four Perseuses.
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  We were just doing the Vandal missions and and I was like,
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  everyone's like, which Perseus? Which, which one am I going
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  into? Nobody could, nobody knew.
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  Let's talk about the Perseus a little bit.
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  That's the big ship of the IE10. You've seen it, right?
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  Oh yeah, yeah, I, I, I love it. We melted, you know, girlfriend
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  wanted it. It was like, OK, what do we got
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  to melt now? I had the sacrifice.
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  Yeah. Corsair.
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  There was some other ships like it was like 3 ships had to be
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  melted. So you have one?
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  Yeah. Yep.
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  Yep, Yep, we got one now because it's two.
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  I mean, even as I love the Polaris, but like, get on the
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  Perseus and you're like, got all these details, the blue hues.
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  Like to me it looks better. Just the captain's quarters
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  looks better than the Polaris, I think by.
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  Yeah, by an order of magnitude. Yeah.
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  The everything about the ship just seems.
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  I thought the traversal to the pilot's seat was going to get
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  hairy for how small it was with that elevator, but that they got
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  the ladder right next to it and there's that external exit right
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  off the cockpits and you got that little bonus little walking
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  ground right outside the, you know, even from the bridge.
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  I love that, yeah. Yeah, it's there's so many
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  features on the ship that's well done to the team that did it.
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  And have you noticed it looks great.
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  Have you noticed that you can in the ship customizer you can set
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  some of the flares in the captain's quarters?
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  Did not notice that that's. What can you?
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  What's in the captain's quarters?
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  You have like a couple not storage areas.
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  Yeah, You have a couple places where you can place some flair,
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  you know, like the the bubble head and the other stuff.
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  You, you, you. It's been ages.
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  You can put them in the cockpit right now in this ship.
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  You can put them also in the captain's quarters.
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  Specified spots, Yeah, OK. Yep.
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  Yeah. Well, that makes sense because
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  they're selling the flare now in Nick's.
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  If you go to the Nick's shops, they're they're selling it.
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  That's cool. I did not know that about the
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  flare, that you could actually put it right in there.
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  Well, I'm going to get a little aloe.
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  Plant, that's for sure. The the little camera that you
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  can check outside the captain's quarters was like, I don't know,
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  but from an RP for anybody that role plays the game.
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  What a cool little feature. Yeah, just all sorts of little
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  fun shit. About the ship Now what's
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  interesting about the Perseus, and we were talking about this
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  on the last show about the Med beds.
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  Perseus has no Med bed and for a ship of that size, it seems
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  ridiculous to not have a Med bed in it of any kind.
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  But. I enjoy that it's balanced in
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  that way. Like I love the fact that the
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  the traversal speed on those two big turrets is slow as hell.
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  I imagine any the 2 heavy fighters are going to have their
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  way with the ship like. But I love the fact that it's
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  balanced and doesn't have a Med bed.
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  What do you think about? That with the other new ships
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  that they they're often to overpower.
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  Like why every ship does need to have a bed?
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  What's the point of medical ships if every ships have a Med
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  bed? Yeah, true.
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  Worst case scenario, you can always put a nurser in the cargo
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  area. Yeah, even we did that last
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  night. Yeah, you just might throw a
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  nurser ride in it. Yeah, yeah.
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  And I, I, I agree with that. It doesn't need the mat, but
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  it's, it's OK. It's not a drop ship.
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  It's not a ship made for it. It doesn't need to have Mat, but
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  it's perfect the way it is. So is the is the Perseus a
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  gunboat? Is that what it is?
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  Specifically to like bigger targets, right?
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  Because I think they used to call the Redeemer A gunboat,
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  right? Well, that that, that's my
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  question, because it's got those two giant can what size are
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  those cannons on the front of it?
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  Size 8. Size 8 What's our Max size gun
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  in the game? A size 10 the.
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  Address and is Max and that's that's like the big one on the
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  address. OK, well.
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  Actually you have torps that are size 12 on the address.
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  I don't know if that counts. OK.
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  But not like Ballistics or or lasers.
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  Or whatever. Yeah, that, that's.
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  So it's got size 8 guns, which is pretty big and it's it's a
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  it's a deep pretty big ship, right.
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  So it's it turns. I don't know if you got a chance
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  to fly it, but the yawn, the pitch and everything like it
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  does feel good to fly it. And I think also because of the
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  shape of it, like when you when you roll and stuff it just if it
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  felt a lot lighter than I anticipated it would.
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  I agree. Yep, it feel, it feels it's got
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  it's zippy for, but I mean you do have two huge guns that have
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  low traversal that you do need to put on target.
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  You're right, it'd be. Frustrating for a pilot if it
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  operated the exact same way the like the way the Polaris flies
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  now, which is straight up like a bus.
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  Polaris should be probably a little bit faster because it's
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  supposed to be like the fastest of the.
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  That was in the marketing material, right?
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  Yeah, I remember that at Concept, yeah.
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  The the Polaris is supposed to be the fastest of like the big
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  ships or in. Yeah, they had it advertised at
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  that is that it was like one of the cap like sub cap ships that
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  was like the fastest, you know, faster.
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  Supposed to, yeah. It's supposed to be light.
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  Light armored, stealthy and fast.
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  OK. Well, then that would really
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  give you a difference because that was my other thing is
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  between the Polaris and what's the ship called, What's the new
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  ship called? Perseus.
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  Perseus, Perseus, Perseus Between the Polaris and the
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  Perseus it, it doesn't feel like there's too much like, you know,
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  separating them. No, there's a lot of.
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  Yeah, I think. Go ahead, Raven.
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  There's a a huge difference in between them component wise.
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  You have capitals, size components, you have Polaris, it
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  has smaller tors. Like the biggest one is size 6
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  compared to size 8. You have only one You have light
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  armor interior. OK, you know this is a bit of a
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  speculation but you have light armor versus heavy armor 50m
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  longer. I think one it's made for
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  intercept other capital ships and petrol.
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  Petrol the systems and can operate by itself.
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  Polaris purses it's made to engage in fleet battles.
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  A purses by itself is useless, you cannot use it.
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  Also crew, crew wise purses. I think right now you can fly
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  with three people. In the future, probably four or
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  five going to be enough purses you need to double that.
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  You can fly the the the Perseus with three people, you say?
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  Yeah. You think?
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  When engineering comes in, you think you're only going to need
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  3 in that thing. That's it.
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  It's still pretty big. With engineering I think 4, so
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  the two main guns and one engineer slash all rounder,
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  that's the minimum. Obviously the more you have
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  better it is, but I think yeah, 4 is the minimum width engineer
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  and it's still too early. I know where we need to to wait
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  a month. Probably we'll know better, but.
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  Yeah, because a Zeus is a three seater.
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  A400I is a three seater. The the Perseus seems like it's
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  got to be like four or five people if the Polaris is like 6
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  to 8. Polaris is, yeah.
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  Well, I I wouldn't. I'm talking minimum crew to
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  operate. Yeah, and minimum viable, I
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  think, yeah, three, you're going to often see three people in a
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  Perseus. Most people are going to be
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  like, yeah, I'll take a big gun, I'll take another big gun and
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  I'll fly. I think that's most could like
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  if you see a crude, I just think you're going to see a three
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  person Perseus so much more if you see a five person Perseus
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  and they have each. It will happen, but yeah, it's
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  going to be. Be scared.
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  But a three person Perseus say, I mean, I don't know what the
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  equivalent is of three people in it's balanced to where it feels
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  like they're this is trying to approach balance in the game a
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  little bit for me. I like the.
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  I like like the paladin. I think they are similar ships
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  that similar roles also but similarly balanced.
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  Like they are good multi crew ships with their own weakness.
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  They're not overpowered. Yeah, like I, I see 3 medium
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  fighters, like if three with one heavy, they should be able to
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  take down a Perseus. If it's a three person crew
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  Perseus, it's just situationally.
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  However, that three person Perseus is going to be far
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  better at taking down a cap ship than those 3 medium fighters,
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  right. So I, I like that kind of
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  diversity in the in the yeah, in the playfield.
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  So, but we have another caller, right?
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  We do. We do have another caller Rave
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  and you've heard the show. You know the way it works.
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  We want to get as many voices on as we can.
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  So if you do want to pop into Open Comms Radio, you are are
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  more than welcome to. If you are from Europe, we will
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  put you in the front of the line.
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  It is. Called European Exceptionalism,
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  it's a it's a new thing. I've just invented it and we'll
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  we'll bring you up to the front of the line, but right now this
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  next guy is someone familiar. I made it up.
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  I just invented. It's brilliant 2. 1000 years
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  old. Anyway, our our next guest is
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  not European, but quite exceptional.
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  Broccoli Rob. Broccoli Rob, welcome back to
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  Open Comms Radio. How you doing today?
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  Thank you so much. It's good to be here.
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  I just wanted to just pop in real quick, say say hi, Glad,
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  glad to see we're doing some different times, glad to see we
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  can get some European friendly times and just enjoying
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  listening. Very good.
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  You've been at the IAE recently. I haven't talked to you about
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  it. What do you think?
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  We have all these new ships. We we were just talking about
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  the Perseus, but any, any ship that really caught your eye
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  here. I am going back and forth.
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  I do like what the Gollum ox looks like, got to wait and see
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  officially how it flies. But I've always loved the MPUV
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  and if I just get a larger MPUVI would be a happy camper.
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  OK, why do you want that? Open cargo, kind of no frills,
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  just sort of like a cockpit and a truck bed feels like almost
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  like a a space S10. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 'cause
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  you got that. You got that with the Drake.
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  Yeah, you know, Yeah, yeah. So that's why I'm so you said
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  like I'd like to have a bigger MPUV, but that's kind of what
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  you got with the Drake. So they delivered on that.
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  Yeah, Yeah. It's like a mini raft.
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  It's just you can take. How big of a container can you
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  take on that? It's just the one.
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  The long one, right, 232. Yeah, you can take 2230 twos.
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  230 twos. Oh, that's a lot, dude.
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  That's more cargo than you can get in.
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  A lot. Same as a whole.
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  Yeah, it's same as a whole. A OK, OK, You can be flying that
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  around broccoli, Rob. Think so?
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  I'll have, Leia said. I have to see how it handles.
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  I have to see if I do actually like it.
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  Seeing in person I liked it, but actually getting behind the the
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  sticks is going to be a different thing.
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  Now are you? You're taking advantage of the
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  rental. I will be once.
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  Always taking it because. Drake's not even Drake hasn't
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  dropped yet. It's It's Oregon Day.
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  Right. So you can, but this year
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  because before they had it like early on where you could you
• 23:53
  click the ship and it would rent it for you and then they move
• 23:56
  that to kiosks. Is it still on the kiosks?
• 24:00
  I believe it will be. The ability to rent like you
• 24:04
  walk up to the kiosk and do it. Yeah.
• 24:07
  OK, OK, OK. Other than that, have we
• 24:11
  surprised by IE at all? No, I was surprised at how much
• 24:18
  I enjoyed Talking Shop, which I know may be an unpopular
• 24:22
  opinion, but they're sorry to bring that up here.
• 24:27
  I haven't checked it out, I'm curious.
• 24:30
  Well, there was just the drama is that we lost our cruise luck
• 24:34
  sponsor and then like the week or two after we lose it, we see
• 24:41
  they go on to this, this show. It's bigger fish.
• 24:43
  It's bigger fish and go on to manufacturers.
• 24:49
  Dropped us and they're on talking shop now, so we're going
• 24:52
  to get them back. We're we're hoping to get them
• 24:53
  back sometime soon. But the European market wasn't
• 24:56
  large enough. I said we were doing a Europe
• 24:58
  show and they were like pass. We also had conflicting reports
• 25:02
  about what was in the what comprised of the Cruise Lux.
• 25:06
  So yeah, I don't blame, I don't blame them.
• 25:09
  We got a little wishy washy there, but they'll be back.
• 25:13
  They'll be back. They'll be back.
• 25:16
  Yeah, we'll have them back. So this patch, Raven man, you've
• 25:21
  been, you've been playing this patch, you've done.
• 25:24
  A little bit. Thanks, I'm going to go back to
• 25:26
  listening. Good talking to y'all.
• 25:28
  Oh, really? Quick broccoli.
• 25:30
  Have you done the right before you're out?
• 25:33
  Have you done the the new? They just reminded me of ACZI
• 25:36
  was in somewhere last night and I was like, wait a second, this
• 25:39
  looks familiar. And it was the sea.
• 25:44
  Have you been to an area like that's in next to, I guess
• 25:49
  Levski that's looked reminded? I don't want to spoil anything.
• 25:53
  Yeah. And I was, I was very surprised
• 25:55
  to see to see that, but it makes sense.
• 25:58
  Did you do what I did? I I got to like the middle.
• 26:00
  I was like the burning thing. It like attracted me and I don't
• 26:03
  want no spoilers here. So, you know, and I was just
• 26:05
  like how this looks familiar. OK, yeah, I walked up to it and
• 26:09
  then I, I looked around. I was like, I've I've been here
• 26:12
  before, looks much nicer now. Yeah, yeah.
• 26:16
  Oh, that's great. Anyway, we'll we'll get in there
• 26:18
  together sometime soon. Yeah, absolutely.
• 26:21
  All right. Thanks y'all.
• 26:22
  Thank you, Broccoli. Thanks for stopping by,
• 26:24
  Broccoli. Look at that.
• 26:28
  And then he just leaves. See how I upgraded the room
• 26:30
  here. That's such a.
• 26:31
  Habit this is This is the first time I've done this.
• 26:34
  Listeners can't tell, but the the back end here on the
• 26:37
  Discord. I learned some things and I
• 26:40
  figured out how to do things smoother and it's been, it's
• 26:42
  been a rough transition, but I think it's it works out.
• 26:44
  Got that new functionality? Now look at that.
• 26:46
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're we're like getting professional over
• 26:49
  here. OK, you need.
• 26:52
  To get the the sponsor back right.
• 26:55
  Professionalism. Well, I'd love to get the Cruise
• 26:59
  Look sponsor back, but that would mean dropping this next
• 27:01
  caller and maybe not having them on the show.
• 27:07
  Now we got, I mean, at this point.
• 27:11
  I'm not sure if we're going to get any sponsors anymore, but
• 27:14
  this next guy, he calls in just about every week.
• 27:17
  Wicket, Wicket, you're invited on to open Comms Radio, your
• 27:21
  Star Citizen call in show this week.
• 27:23
  We don't have a question for you this week.
• 27:25
  I just want to say IAE special European Spectacular.
• 27:31
  Citizens. Long time listener, occasional
• 27:35
  caller. Are you awakened?
• 27:43
  I just want to preface everything from saying is that
• 27:46
  ever since my last appearance on open comms I had to go back to
• 27:53
  old Earth and unfortunately my computer network here in Old
• 28:01
  Earth, it's heavily D dosed by the slam lobby and I'm currently
• 28:07
  on a backup Internet connection through a hotspot on these
• 28:12
  things called cellular phones. It's amazing technology, I'm
• 28:16
  surprised it even works. But my primary Internet has been
• 28:22
  severed by the slam lobby, and that just goes to show you how
• 28:30
  they'll in They'll infiltrate every level of society to
• 28:34
  undermine the delicious taste the crew looks.
• 28:40
  And I'm not apologizing. For that, that's why they're.
• 28:43
  You think that's why they're? Somebody even mentioned, yeah,
• 28:48
  they're trying to infiltrate. This is how they're trying to
• 28:50
  smuggle the Slam into society through Delicious, wholesome,
• 28:57
  hearty and fulfilling drinks like Cruz Lux.
• 29:02
  Why do they pick? Cruz.
• 29:03
  Lux because it's the number one refreshing drink in the verse.
• 29:08
  So these jokers are trying to infiltrate with this slam to try
• 29:14
  to get to undermine society. It's unbelievable.
• 29:18
  Right, No wonder. So no wonder you are having
• 29:21
  trouble. Opening the gates to these other
• 29:23
  systems, because the SLAM is infiltrating the development of
• 29:28
  the of the of the warp gates so we can get into other systems.
• 29:31
  That's why we're stuck. It sounds like it sounds like
• 29:34
  you're saying a little. Three corner of the Internet
• 29:36
  here or the the verse. It sounds like you're admitting
• 29:42
  that Cruise Locks does in fact have SLAM in it.
• 29:46
  No, you're. Totally misreading the
• 29:48
  situation. I'm saying they're trying.
• 29:50
  To you're saying they're putting the slam in the cruise?
• 29:52
  Yeah, they are infiltrating it and getting people addicted.
• 29:54
  They're putting it. In.
• 29:56
  That's that's the only reason. That's the only thing that I
• 29:58
  could come to the conclusion of, because that guy, Anubis little
• 30:03
  Blueskin, he's always going on and off about it because you
• 30:06
  know, they're addicted to all kinds of stuff.
• 30:08
  The Blueskins are. And.
• 30:10
  He must have got a bad batch and he just thought that's how it
• 30:13
  was. But no, this is a family drink.
• 30:18
  Raven, you're from Europe? Do they allow SLAM in the cruise
• 30:22
  locks in Europe? Yes, this guy talk this.
• 30:29
  This. This people.
• 30:30
  Eating, flipping, flying skirt wearing Roman No.
• 30:39
  I used to work with AI, used to work with a cook and, you know,
• 30:43
  over and he was in Italy for a couple years and, you know, just
• 30:49
  trying to be a chef there. And he got sick and he went to
• 30:53
  like the local doctor, whatever. And she gave him like straight,
• 30:58
  he's like, man, it came out of there and it was like she gave
• 31:00
  him straight speed. Like, really.
• 31:04
  Yeah. And he was like, it, it worked.
• 31:07
  And I was like, that's a hey, that's, that's A, and apparently
• 31:12
  it's always been an old, you know, that's how they used to
• 31:14
  treat a lot of, a lot of illness.
• 31:17
  Which is speed. Coke, anything.
• 31:20
  I mean, yeah, sure. I've never heard of a doctor
• 31:23
  prescribing cokers. And speeds over here.
• 31:27
  With the immediate bullshit call, no.
• 31:30
  I. It was.
• 31:32
  Maybe it was a special doctor or another kind of doctor, you
• 31:35
  know. Listen, listen to the Roman
• 31:37
  immediately deflecting and and trying to sub, you know,
• 31:42
  subjugate us into their ideology of slam and and widespread
• 31:47
  rampant drug use. It's.
• 31:49
  Undeniable. I don't.
• 31:51
  Even know why we're in Europe, man, these Europeans.
• 31:54
  They're they're they're. They're anti freedom.
• 31:57
  They're anti liberty. All they are is a bunch of drug
• 32:00
  users. Unbelievable.
• 32:01
  All right, Well, back to Star Citizen.
• 32:04
  Do you? I thought we were.
• 32:05
  Talking Star Citizen. Slam.
• 32:09
  Fair enough. They're.
• 32:09
  Slam. Fair enough, fair enough, fair
• 32:12
  enough. So there is slam and start
• 32:14
  citizen and there also is a new Alpha wolf.
• 32:16
  But there's none in Cruise Lux, I can tell you that.
• 32:19
  And I know that while you're sipping down in your hearty
• 32:21
  cruise, Lux Raven, I know you're especially you had do you?
• 32:26
  Did you fly the new wolf? It's not out yet, I think.
• 32:30
  I don't think you really I don't think so.
• 32:33
  Maybe in the PTU because. You play in flight in PTU.
• 32:36
  Maybe that's what I was thinking.
• 32:37
  I don't know. I thought yesterday I was going
• 32:39
  around. Very sexy, but.
• 32:42
  I've got an emergency cruise lux delivery at the door so I'll
• 32:46
  I'll have to step away for a moment.
• 32:47
  I'll be right back. OK, I like the fact that it
• 32:53
  doesn't look like it has the underfin on it, which a lot of
• 32:56
  people complained about. Yeah, I don't know about that.
• 32:58
  Yeah, Yeah. I don't like the Underfin.
• 33:01
  I think it was a little bit of a yeah, not a good idea.
• 33:10
  Do you feel like they put it in just to have it glide through
• 33:13
  the the water like they do? You know they fly.
• 33:18
  Low and the water's shooting up and they're like, look at this
• 33:21
  cool water effect. They're like, we need a a ship
• 33:23
  that will do that. I think that they saw the scene.
• 33:27
  It was one of the Star Wars movies, you know, the one in the
• 33:31
  white desert with the red sun and.
• 33:35
  In the White Desert. Oh, oh, the the new one, the
• 33:37
  last. We don't talk about that movie.
• 33:39
  Yeah, I don't know. I don't really like it, but that
• 33:42
  scene was nice. Probably they wanted to do
• 33:43
  something like that. Yeah, it was actually a really
• 33:48
  pretty scene. I'm not that would that that was
• 33:50
  one of the scenes that got me most excited for that that
• 33:52
  movie. That's probably the only thing,
• 33:55
  right? I liked it when he was like,
• 33:58
  it's time for the Jedi to end. And I was like, oh, what are
• 34:01
  they going to do? And then I was like, I don't
• 34:07
  even know. I don't understand what's
• 34:08
  happening. So many lines, just like yeah.
• 34:15
  Well, because that movie started up with Poe flies in front of
• 34:19
  the Star Destroyer and like Leia's like, you know, being
• 34:23
  like the general or whatever on the Comm and he flies it by
• 34:27
  himself. And he, he makes like your mom
• 34:30
  joke. He's like, Oh, yeah, it's the,
• 34:33
  it's, it's the. Definition of not having tone
• 34:37
  appreciation at any sense in your movie.
• 34:40
  Yeah, yeah. From that line I was smiling and
• 34:45
  then he said that and I stopped smiling.
• 34:52
  I can't. Hear that I was with, I was with
• 34:54
  my brothers and like a friend of ours and my mom.
• 34:57
  And the end of the movie, we all walk out and we it's just kind
• 35:00
  of like quiet, right? And then, oh, yeah.
• 35:03
  And so I forget who goes, someone goes like, So what do
• 35:06
  you think we're like? And we all just immediately
• 35:08
  start complaining about it. And my mom was like, oh, I
• 35:11
  actually liked it. I thought it was a lot of fun.
• 35:15
  The keys dangling right in front of your face Can be, can be.
• 35:20
  I was like, we were like, Mom, you don't even like Star Wars.
• 35:24
  No, let's see, it's Mystery Science 3000.
• 35:26
  Like to do a bad movie of that with a group of friends is still
• 35:29
  a guilty pleasure. It's yeah, even Raven, I
• 35:31
  remember watching one. It's like, oh, I'll never forget
• 35:35
  it. Why would they have the voice
• 35:37
  authentication on a spaceship to, like, open a door?
• 35:42
  Because they had one oxygen leak or whatever and none of them
• 35:45
  could speak or breathe and they couldn't open the door.
• 35:47
  You could just sit there. Like, that's the dumbest thing.
• 35:55
  This is so dumb. But yeah, I love it.
• 35:58
  I really. Well thought.
• 36:00
  I laughed the crazy. The crazy thing about those
• 36:02
  movies is, like hundreds of people watch them as they're
• 36:06
  being made. And there's like, you know,
• 36:09
  probably dozens of cuts of those movies and still, like, the
• 36:15
  silliest. Dumbest, yeah.
• 36:17
  Yeah, it's like who's? Yeah, I don't really see too
• 36:22
  many people. Or you could say the same thing
• 36:25
  for our ships in the game, like how many blatant mistakes in
• 36:29
  ships we have. That's very true.
• 36:34
  I'm right now flying the Stinger and the Stinger did not like it
• 36:37
  was like so weird and like buggy in weird ways when it first came
• 36:41
  out like it looked buggy. It was like the assets were
• 36:45
  buggy and I was like the. Textures the texture were were
• 36:48
  low resolution compared. To Yeah.
• 36:51
  Yeah. I walked in and I was like
• 36:53
  what's going on? This is so weird and how does I?
• 36:56
  Don't know if it was, yeah. I don't know if it was a wrong
• 36:59
  LOD setting or just the assets from Squadron 42 that didn't
• 37:03
  port it well in the Citizen. Yeah.
• 37:08
  How's the ship itself? How's it fly?
• 37:09
  I mean, do you like the ship? Stinger's cool.
• 37:13
  It's. It's I, I think everyone has a
• 37:16
  very similar opinion about it, where I love everything about
• 37:20
  it. I love its sound.
• 37:21
  I love like the look of it. I I love even love the feel of
• 37:27
  it, but it's just you're just such a target in it.
• 37:31
  You can't turn properly. Your pitch and your Yaw is very,
• 37:36
  very slow. Even against like the computer
• 37:39
  when you're doing Pve stuff, it's difficult.
• 37:43
  So PvP, forget about it. I've tried it dude.
• 37:45
  No way. You're not going to.
• 37:47
  If someone's in an arrow or or any light fighter, even most of
• 37:52
  the fighters, they're just going to spin around you.
• 37:54
  They're you're never going to get your nose on them.
• 37:56
  It's not even that tanky, right? And that, yeah, I.
• 37:59
  Think I fight this tank here? It is not tanky, it should.
• 38:04
  I expected this to be super tanky.
• 38:07
  The wings just like snap off. It's super hard to pilot after.
• 38:14
  And yeah, in pot, even in space, it's like, I don't know why.
• 38:17
  It doesn't make any sense. It's impossible to pilot you
• 38:22
  just like you, if you're like, if your port side wing comes
• 38:25
  off, you like won't be able to turn left or whatever.
• 38:28
  It's like something crazy like that.
• 38:31
  It's very neat ship like. Me a lot of the Have you ever
• 38:38
  watched Stargate? That that glider?
• 38:41
  I think they're called the goat. The same forward wing angle.
• 38:49
  It's like a backwards manta. Charlie looks like a horseshoe
• 38:52
  crab from the rear. Like they're stuck in there
• 38:56
  like. Yeah, but it is special because
• 38:59
  it does have this special jump animation, right?
• 39:03
  It's got or this red kind of. And that's really cool.
• 39:06
  They just added that this batch and it's got.
• 39:08
  A purple interior. So yeah, the red is cool and the
• 39:11
  dash is, you know, the fun little Yeah, the fun UI changes.
• 39:17
  The dash is, it's useful. The dash is really, really
• 39:20
  useful. If you log, if you hit log onto
• 39:23
  the stream right now, Raven, you'll see it 'cause I'm flying.
• 39:27
  The dash is one of the cleanest, most useful.
• 39:30
  You can see everything. If I if I had my my Moby tracker
• 39:35
  on or whatever it is not my Moby, my Toby find my Toby
• 39:38
  tracker on yeah, you'd see it. You you see my head turn and you
• 39:46
  can see everything in it. So this is actually been
• 39:49
  surprisingly my favorite ship of the of the year.
• 39:53
  A lot of the ships during this IEE like the one ROB.
• 39:55
  Was talking about. The Drake cargo on, I think it's
• 39:57
  good, I think it's useful, but it's just not.
• 40:03
  It's just not what like for me, it's just not what I'm looking
• 40:06
  for. I'm even with its faults, I much
• 40:09
  prefer the Stinger to like a lot of other ships.
• 40:12
  Oh, even watching you turn in it, yeah, it's gotta.
• 40:15
  Oh yeah. But one thing it's I don't know
• 40:18
  if they fix it, but like the interior you had only 1 gun rack
• 40:22
  I think and one fuse box and that's it.
• 40:25
  A lot of empty space. It's still the case of they
• 40:29
  added something more. I don't know honestly, because I
• 40:36
  just kind of get I use as a fighter, I just kind of like get
• 40:38
  in it and go. But one thing that I do know and
• 40:41
  I don't know if this is exclusive to the Stinger, but
• 40:44
  when I set my my weapon like modes like when you set to shoot
• 40:51
  this gun with this button and this gun with that button, it
• 40:54
  doesn't save. So at like right now, every time
• 40:58
  I do it every time I purchase not doing it how I set it up.
• 41:03
  So I have to go in and reset that every single time.
• 41:07
  In my experience, all the other ships it would save for.
• 41:10
  Am I am I wrong? That I don't know.
• 41:18
  Good question, It's been a while since I last done it, so sure it
• 41:22
  used. Yeah.
• 41:24
  Back in the days, it didn't save it for sure.
• 41:26
  I think it changed one year ago, two years ago, something like
• 41:31
  that. Yeah, I thought they updated it,
• 41:33
  but for some reason the Stinger, it doesn't do it.
• 41:35
  It always shoots because you have that like.
• 41:37
  Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. I think it persists if you have
• 41:43
  the same ship and you don't claim it.
• 41:47
  But once you claim it. Yeah, once you claim it, it gets
• 41:50
  reset for sure. I think if you just get out of
• 41:53
  the ship and get back in the ship, it should persist.
• 41:57
  You store it, I don't. Know, is that fair?
• 42:03
  I guess that's fair. I wonder if cuz if it's the
• 42:05
  weapon groupings, is there any way to shoot the Perseus's main
• 42:09
  guns? Can you shoot those two at a
• 42:11
  time? I know they showed it in the
• 42:12
  trailer and I saw it and I was like, yeah, I'm talking about
• 42:18
  like, yeah. Of the.
• 42:21
  Cannons and the Gatlings firing at the same time.
• 42:25
  I think you can, I haven't tried yet.
• 42:28
  Shooting from the turret should be able to.
• 42:32
  There are two weapon groups, so if you set them both to the same
• 42:36
  should work. Interest.
• 42:40
  So it's got to be on the MFD inside the turret.
• 42:43
  OK Alex, more to explore. Yeah, so the wolf looks cool, IE
• 42:53
  I'm loving it, I'm loving Nyx, I'm loving everything about Nyx.
• 42:56
  It's a shame we can't mine any of these rocks in around Levski
• 42:59
  and shit because right now Nyx is basically just one big
• 43:03
  asteroid ring. The new mission, whatever
• 43:06
  mission set out there that I got tagged into, it was fun.
• 43:09
  It was a series of space engagements matched with areas
• 43:14
  to clear any opponents. I don't know about the AI.
• 43:17
  The AI has got now every three patches it seems to take a leap
• 43:22
  forward or they just have better guns where I was and they were
• 43:25
  shooting those new Pulverizer LMGS and yeah, those will drop
• 43:29
  you pretty quick. So I like that.
• 43:32
  It just feels like it's more challenging.
• 43:34
  Everything's just more challenging.
• 43:36
  Yeah, even just flying in in space isn't as empty.
• 43:41
  Index space is just it feels more full.
• 43:45
  And I think because when you got it and you saw that it was only
• 43:50
  a few locations, I think a lot of people were like really
• 43:53
  disappointed. But even without the planets and
• 43:57
  stuff it, and maybe it's just because you're forced to go out,
• 44:00
  but they have a lot of these missions like in space and with
• 44:04
  all the rocks and everything, it just feels very full.
• 44:10
  So you. Think about the the rocks they
• 44:13
  they are in these straight lines.
• 44:14
  Straight lines. I noticed that they're like
• 44:16
  planted trees. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:19
  I don't know if it's a bugger, it's on purpose.
• 44:23
  Is that realistic? I.
• 44:25
  Think it does have a symmetry to it, but I don't know about that
• 44:28
  like. Everything.
• 44:30
  That is so static it's. Yeah, it's weird.
• 44:36
  But also they'd be moving, wouldn't they?
• 44:40
  Right. So imagine if they were, or
• 44:44
  maybe they plan, if they plan to have these like rocks moving,
• 44:50
  you're you're not going to want them random like that because
• 44:52
  you're going to die all the time.
• 44:55
  I don't know, but if you take I don't know the the belt around
• 45:01
  yellow. Yeah.
• 45:04
  And this or even the the iron hello.
• 45:08
  It's more seems at least more realistic.
• 45:12
  Not talking about the the each rock, but the the disposition,
• 45:16
  the feel when you fly in it. So this is, this is just like
• 45:21
  another thing like with the cities and stuff that they're
• 45:23
  like they're gonna have probably a second iteration on.
• 45:28
  Definitely. Maybe.
• 45:30
  I don't know. I don't know if that's supposed
• 45:31
  to be realistic though. Like are there, you know,
• 45:34
  because it's, it's also crazy if you think about space, how
• 45:38
  everything does just kind of revolve on like a flat.
• 45:42
  It's not really flat, but like a flattish plane, you know,
• 45:47
  everything orbits like the same way with like these rocks and
• 45:51
  and rings and stuff. I'm not, not really.
• 45:57
  Not really. Yeah, a little bit like that.
• 45:59
  There is a plane, yes, but there's stuff that is not in the
• 46:02
  same plane. It is interesting.
• 46:08
  The plane forms in the disc through the same force of, you
• 46:12
  know, centripetal force, right? Is that, am I the only that
• 46:15
  might be a dunce? I'm going to shut my mouth.
• 46:19
  I was just thinking. I was like, wait a second.
• 46:21
  These form like the same way. That's why you see rings and
• 46:25
  rings right around planets and sort of rings.
• 46:28
  Yeah. You spin with the force of
• 46:30
  gravity, and you spin with the force of gravity and naturally
• 46:32
  goes to the. To the to the poles.
• 46:39
  And it just works that way in space too, it doesn't matter
• 46:43
  what. Side physics, right?
• 46:45
  There's just no gravity. But there is gravity, but the
• 46:49
  the gravity is what keeps the. The gravity is what pulls
• 46:51
  everything together. OK OK so maybe this does make
• 46:55
  sense to have them like clump up and shit like that.
• 46:59
  That was we clearly need an expert because that was the most
• 47:02
  amateur assessment any of us. Made that's called someone from
• 47:05
  PBS. PBS based on.
• 47:09
  I don't know dude, I saw PBS doing some UFO stuff recently.
• 47:13
  So when I spin the top on my table, I noticed yeah.
• 47:20
  Do you guys watch PBS over there?
• 47:22
  Do you watch like Antiques Roadshow and stuff?
• 47:24
  Raven. No, I watch on YouTube some PBS
• 47:28
  like PBS ions and PBS Space-time.
• 47:31
  Yeah, they have good space content.
• 47:34
  But yeah, no, no TV, just the YouTube part.
• 47:39
  All right, So what are you guys looking forward to doing in this
• 47:42
  next patch? In the next patch or in the next
• 47:47
  patch? The knit is Knicks patch, The
• 47:50
  whole Knicks patch. You could you could count what's
• 47:53
  coming in next patch, too. What are you looking forward to?
• 47:57
  Oh, next patch engineering for sure.
• 47:59
  I want to try and see how. Change.
• 48:02
  The game right now mostly like a long explorer.
• 48:10
  I still have to try the the Vandal missions.
• 48:14
  You haven't seen one. No, no, not yet.
• 48:17
  I I've just done some intersect. It had a it had a there was a
• 48:21
  strong reminder of the contested type zone gameplay loop to me
• 48:26
  with the the Vandu mission, but it was still with the new guns,
• 48:29
  harder hitting enemies, whatever they you know, Yeah, it's great
• 48:33
  fun. Oh, Skitty was writing in chat
• 48:38
  about our Oh, the aggression. Yeah.
• 48:43
  OK, well Tav, can you read it? When a system forms, the nebula
• 48:47
  will collapse along a plane where the gravity becomes the
• 48:49
  strongest as a matter, as the matter collects, which also
• 48:53
  create creates the spinning. Yeah.
• 48:55
  So it is kind of. Yeah, That's that's yeah.
• 48:58
  That was what was in my head without words, but that makes
• 49:01
  sense. Skater can just skater.
• 49:04
  We're not used to having such an active chat, so we will make a
• 49:09
  point to look at your chat more often 'cause Skeeter's Skeeter's
• 49:13
  been laying down facts maybe for quite a while, and we just
• 49:17
  haven't seen it. Yeah, that makes sense.
• 49:19
  Gravity is the strongest at the planes.
• 49:20
  Yeah, that makes OK. Well, gravity is the planes.
• 49:23
  The planes form where gravity is, right?
• 49:27
  Yeah. But it's.
• 49:29
  I mean a long a plane, but like that is we're just saying that's
• 49:33
  the plane, but that's just where gravity formed.
• 49:36
  Spinning is what creates it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, yeah.
• 49:42
  Maybe I'm wrong, Skeeter, maybe you can you can correct us if
• 49:45
  we're wrong. Need visual aids?
• 49:49
  So the, the the vandal missions, the coolest thing about them is
• 49:53
  not their size, which is impressive.
• 49:57
  It's not their character model. So far we've only really I you
• 50:00
  can correct me if anyone else has seen differently.
• 50:03
  We've only seen vandal corpses. We haven't actually fought a
• 50:09
  vandal in FPS. Yeah.
• 50:11
  Correct as. Far as I can dismiss.
• 50:15
  These guys were tanky though. Who, Who was tank?
• 50:20
  Oh, the guys on the mission were tanky.
• 50:21
  Yeah, but they weren't Vandool or anything.
• 50:23
  But we we have seen frozen Vandool cryopods and you can
• 50:28
  collect the Vandool cryopods. You can sell the Vandool
• 50:30
  cryopods. And this is like, it feels like
• 50:35
  bounty hunting is just like, shoot something and do cargo.
• 50:41
  If that's what it is. Which I guess that's what it is,
• 50:45
  but I never like thought about that.
• 50:46
  I'm like, yeah, you just like shoot something and then like
• 50:48
  you take it. I don't want to be cynical for a
• 50:51
  moment, but to be cynical for a moment like it.
• 50:55
  I do love the new. The new Vandal missions was
• 50:57
  exciting because it's all new. But I guess there is like a lot
• 50:59
  of still content I'd like to go back and test to see how the
• 51:03
  rest of because you know how some of these older missions
• 51:06
  broke. Oh yeah, they break from patch
• 51:09
  to patch. I'd love to see if how does is
• 51:11
  Hathor still working? Can you go through both worm
• 51:14
  missions all the way through without an issue?
• 51:18
  And if that's the case, all right, well, there's, there's a
• 51:20
  good at least seven or six or seven good drivable experiences,
• 51:25
  right, to take a friend through. That's a really good point.
• 51:28
  Yeah. I mean, are these missions that
• 51:30
  are they are being put in, are they staying?
• 51:34
  Yeah, I'd love to see some fixes.
• 51:36
  I I mean I've only been to this new vandal thing since the patch
• 51:39
  drop, but I'd love to go back to test all the, you know, hit hit
• 51:43
  up some of the old favourites. Hathaway I never even I again.
• 51:48
  I don't really mind but be interesting to see if Hathaway
• 51:51
  works. Yeah, because you know what,
• 51:56
  with that kind of perspective in mind, if a new mission comes in,
• 52:00
  I don't particularly like it. I don't care if it's adding to a
• 52:03
  library, like if the mission comes in and out like it,
• 52:06
  someone else will like it as long as we're like growing the,
• 52:09
  our, our, our inventory here. And shit's not just like being
• 52:13
  forgotten about into the, you know.
• 52:15
  Yeah, 'cause that's a, you know, you don't want to.
• 52:17
  I don't want to take a friend in and be like, hey, six months ago
• 52:21
  this Hathor thing was a lot of fun and then and then and then I
• 52:24
  take them there and it's just a desert.
• 52:26
  Nothing works, which has been indicative of prior patches, but
• 52:33
  I I would love to see some of these missions at least
• 52:35
  maintained because you want to have variety.
• 52:36
  If you get in there with a group of friends, you're like, hey,
• 52:38
  what's everybody want to do? Oh, we have, we can go out to
• 52:40
  Nick's, we can stay and stand. We can go out to Pyro.
• 52:44
  Like I love having the options with a small group of friends.
• 52:48
  Like if you get in, it's just one thing.
• 52:52
  It's just less enticing. I think we've lost a lot of
• 52:56
  mission types since 4.0, right? Oh yeah.
• 52:59
  Oh yeah, I could. Yeah, I could go.
• 53:02
  I mean, Ghost Hollow jump # the investigation, investigation.
• 53:07
  Yeah, this. So Ghost Hollow still doesn't
• 53:10
  work I imagine. Or it doesn't even exist.
• 53:12
  It probably doesn't exist anymore.
• 53:14
  It doesn't make sense. Love that one.
• 53:17
  There was that's and that was a cool little area on micro tech.
• 53:23
  All the delivery package are. Are they working package
• 53:26
  delivery missions? Are they even packing?
• 53:30
  I I'm doing a package delivery mission right now in Levski.
• 53:33
  OK, not opening. In their defense, if 4 point O
• 53:38
  made them had to refactor the entire mission system then OK I
• 53:42
  understand Like let's keep adding to it then if we can
• 53:46
  never go back to all the cool stuff on like.
• 53:48
  I think they're trying to bring Orson back, or at least they
• 53:51
  said they were in a video. Yeah, they said they're going to
• 53:53
  do instance, right? Yeah, yeah.
• 53:56
  So I guess we're getting that. We're getting CG Orson back
• 53:59
  there were. Do you remember the platform
• 54:01
  missions on Orison that wasn't Siege of Orison?
• 54:04
  Yeah, I was meaning that one, not siege.
• 54:09
  Yeah, those missions, those were, I love those missions.
• 54:13
  They showed. And Orson's a great looking city
• 54:16
  to where you can show your friends like, yeah, here we are
• 54:19
  on battling it out in Cloud City.
• 54:21
  Like anybody could accept the mission.
• 54:24
  It wasn't a special event. Yeah.
• 54:27
  You just love to see some of that come back.
• 54:29
  But I, I, I in their defense, I appreciate it.
• 54:33
  Probably with some refactor they did with the mission system and
• 54:36
  that probably broke all of them. But so.
• 54:39
  In the logic, so it made sense, but yeah, the library.
• 54:43
  Hear me out about this OK see divorcing you're on those
• 54:48
  platforms. We can as a community, like how
• 54:52
  hell divers is like their community events.
• 54:54
  We can like have a big Pve event.
• 54:58
  So we're actually fighting for these platforms, right?
• 55:02
  And then at the end of it, depending like how successful we
• 55:05
  are, either those platforms or either like Crusader, the city,
• 55:13
  like it's damage to it or it's taken over completely or
• 55:16
  something like, or we saved it. And then they can like go from
• 55:21
  there. If the, if it's been taken over
• 55:23
  completely, you have missions to try to liberate it.
• 55:27
  Or if it's, if it's been saved or whatever, or damaged, they'd
• 55:31
  do like humanitarian delivery missions or like refugee rescue
• 55:35
  missions and stuff. So like they can keep adding
• 55:38
  based on what they like the outcomes of what they do.
• 55:42
  Like missions with the meaning that can have a tax.
• 55:45
  A good idea? We had something like that with
• 55:48
  the what was the resource driven?
• 55:53
  The one when they where they changed the name of the jump
• 55:56
  point. They started it.
• 55:58
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was an in game change.
• 56:01
  I had consequences. A small one, but it was small.
• 56:05
  Then you get the what is a 5% deduction on prices for Hurston?
• 56:10
  So it was small. But yeah, but now, now that you
• 56:13
  see that, now you can have Hurston missions like taking
• 56:17
  going out from that station or that station can become like a
• 56:22
  contested, A contested point. Like that's what they were said
• 56:24
  they were going to do with the stations in Pyro.
• 56:27
  And that's what the contested zones were, were those were the
• 56:30
  places you fight it out. But.
• 56:34
  Before they launched Pyro, my understanding of Pyro was
• 56:36
  different. I thought that was like, hey,
• 56:38
  once I'm out of the hangar, I can shoot somebody.
• 56:40
  Like, yeah, I understand how that might be untenable for the
• 56:45
  masses, but I was really excited just to like, this is the Wild
• 56:51
  West. Like, but I I, yeah, gameplay
• 56:56
  doesn't really quite work that way.
• 56:57
  And you probably have to put them in zones.
• 57:01
  You ever seen there? Like Speaking of this type of
• 57:04
  stuff, is there we ever thought about their like Oregon org?
• 57:07
  I've always thought that there could be 4, let's say take 4
• 57:10
  orgs, pick a point of interest and just have one day and who
• 57:15
  whatever org controls the thing for the most of the day wins.
• 57:21
  Does that seem? I mean, I mean, but no, it
• 57:24
  doesn't seem so dumb. And they have to pay US money,
• 57:27
  the losers, because we're going to win.
• 57:28
  Yeah, well, it'd be a for an org thing.
• 57:29
  It'd be a pride thing, right? So everybody would be motivated
• 57:32
  to like put 5 orgs in the in the bucket and just say a picking in
• 57:36
  point of interest apoi. Oh.
• 57:39
  Isn't the the thing with the hospitalizations they they were
• 57:42
  talking last year for one point OI.
• 57:47
  Think the. Something like.
• 57:49
  That you talking about making the orbital stations the new
• 57:52
  jump towns or? No, no.
• 57:54
  I think if you remember when they were talking about the
• 57:59
  plans for one Point O, they were saying that in low SEC sectors
• 58:06
  they're going to have like orbital stations that you have
• 58:10
  to fight for the control of it and then you can like use it as
• 58:15
  a shield for the planet or something like that.
• 58:19
  You know, I do vaguely remember this.
• 58:21
  I I do remember them mentioning this.
• 58:24
  I thought that's what they were starting off with with the pyro
• 58:28
  stations. I thought that's what that was.
• 58:29
  It was a pyro station. Yeah, probably, yeah.
• 58:31
  Yeah, I thought it was like checkmate and stuff and they
• 58:33
  just because someone asked on like spectrum or something about
• 58:36
  like oh so like where is the like rest of this?
• 58:39
  And I just remember, like, seeing this, they were like, Oh,
• 58:42
  yeah, it's we're doing it like iteratively, like it has been a
• 58:46
  year to zero, yeah. Right.
• 58:50
  Yeah. So we're like, we're still there
• 58:52
  even though we're getting all this cool stuff and even though
• 58:54
  we're having a good time and everything, you're still like,
• 58:56
  oh, what what about that? What about that?
• 58:59
  You know, what about that reputation?
• 59:02
  Like it's common. So, but that also speaks to why
• 59:06
  they didn't do a big citizen con this year.
• 59:09
  Right, Yeah, I still think, you know, the community, the
• 59:13
  community's still so active. Like I mean, even these down,
• 59:17
  even what I would think would be a down time for me for star
• 59:20
  season. I mean, there's still you know,
• 59:23
  the groups I'm in are still very active with the game.
• 59:25
  So yeah, I think just an org, an org be org pick APOI have one
• 59:30
  day and that way each org could approach the problem.
• 59:33
  I mean, you could do a drop ship part at one point, you could go
• 59:37
  in there with Perseus as a different point.
• 59:39
  You could drop, we can drop the mix and experiment with that if
• 59:43
  you're an org and like, but you'd have human opponents on
• 59:46
  the whole side and it'd just be one day.
• 59:49
  Schedule it a month in advance and then have 4 orgs fight over
• 59:52
  Apoi. You know, I think that would be,
• 59:55
  it'd be like an org created jump town, but it would be a little
• 1:00:00
  bit it would change, it would switch it up from the constant.
• 1:00:03
  All right, everything is typically contested zone.
• 1:00:06
  So just a more variety, you know?
• 1:00:10
  Yeah, and human opponents would, yes, it would all be PvP, so.
• 1:00:17
  Dude, I think as much as people complain about it, I think Raven
• 1:00:22
  you'd agree with this. The human opponents is is where
• 1:00:26
  it's at. The PvP is where this game's
• 1:00:29
  going to get like its longevity from.
• 1:00:33
  Probably, yeah, even even if you are not into PvP, but just the
• 1:00:39
  fact that you are in a PvP universe.
• 1:00:44
  Yeah, yeah. Just the notion that like and
• 1:00:48
  and and, you know. Driving.
• 1:00:51
  Yeah, like driving those missions from that idea,
• 1:00:54
  building more missions off of that, right.
• 1:00:57
  As long as space is never instanced I'm OK with the
• 1:01:01
  sacrifices they want to make towards having more Co-op
• 1:01:04
  gameplay unimpeded by trolling people.
• 1:01:08
  As long as they don't do it with space.
• 1:01:10
  If they start doing it with space and you're like, well,
• 1:01:12
  here's now this instance that's. It's like that kind.
• 1:01:16
  Of defeats the whole point of this being a more, you know,
• 1:01:21
  Eve, but you can be personally on your ship, you know.
• 1:01:25
  There there's an issue though. If you watch last citizen con
• 1:01:29
  they showed like I don't know what you mean by space not being
• 1:01:34
  instanced, but they're going to have battles that are going to
• 1:01:39
  be instanced that the fleet battles against the.
• 1:01:42
  They are instancing it OK. That is instance.
• 1:01:47
  Dang, I didn't. That's disappointing.
• 1:01:49
  I always thought they would. I mean, you know, just make it
• 1:01:53
  remote enough to where you need a an objective marker to get
• 1:01:56
  there. But I guess with Party Mark,
• 1:01:59
  yeah, anybody can. I can see the the problems.
• 1:02:05
  Yeah, but that's instancing. Instancing in general for for
• 1:02:09
  what? A game that's supposed to be
• 1:02:10
  simulation is we're supposed to fight instancing, right?
• 1:02:14
  Kind of like, yeah, we all want to have fun.
• 1:02:18
  So I guess that's the pro side of instancing.
• 1:02:21
  Nobody wants to be trolled when they're in there with their
• 1:02:23
  three friends by somebody who's just waiting there.
• 1:02:27
  Yeah, that's the main thing, because even if you have like
• 1:02:29
  102 hundred 1000 remote locations, somebody could just
• 1:02:34
  camp there and call people. That's what they had in Elite
• 1:02:39
  Dangerous in the very beginning. There's this place everyone had
• 1:02:41
  to go and people would camp there in Seal Club, right?
• 1:02:46
  And you guys, a new player, would have no idea.
• 1:02:49
  But I'd like a little bit of seal clubbing creates a more
• 1:02:55
  rewarding, I don't know, not seal clubbing.
• 1:03:00
  But you want people to be scary. I understand there's consequence
• 1:03:04
  to the game. Know how you let somebody know
• 1:03:08
  that this isn't some free Willy, You know, 'cause when you lose
• 1:03:12
  everything, when you lose your items, when you die and get sent
• 1:03:15
  back to the other side of the universe like it, it's you now
• 1:03:20
  your next outing, Christ, let me grab my luxes, let me grab
• 1:03:23
  everything I need. There's just so much more
• 1:03:25
  preparation on the player's mind of of not all right, I could die
• 1:03:31
  for some crap. And you know, I think that's a
• 1:03:33
  that's what makes Star Season so great.
• 1:03:35
  I like it. I like the survival mechanics.
• 1:03:39
  That's the whole game. Punish people.
• 1:03:41
  Punish people. Well, have patience, yeah.
• 1:03:45
  It it it makes it more rewarding.
• 1:03:48
  That's the thing about when you when you meet people who play
• 1:03:50
  this game, you know right away they have a good amount of
• 1:03:53
  patience. Yeah, but you have even.
• 1:03:57
  If you don't play this requirement.
• 1:04:03
  I was thinking in the context or of those instance battles around
• 1:04:12
  the station, right. If you die, you still have to go
• 1:04:16
  all the way from your spawn point.
• 1:04:18
  You have to go all the way back from your spawn point to the
• 1:04:23
  asteroid and then enter the instance area or something like
• 1:04:27
  that. So there's still, but I don't
• 1:04:33
  know. I'm not completely as long as it
• 1:04:35
  is restricted. I will say I'm a massively like
• 1:04:39
  the especially when those recent ASD facilities dying in the ASD
• 1:04:44
  facility spawns you at the ASD facility instead of eating you
• 1:04:49
  halfway across the system. Like that's I was like, OK,
• 1:04:53
  that's I'm OK with this. Like otherwise people are going
• 1:04:56
  to be like, if I got to spend 40 minutes to get back to you, I'm
• 1:05:00
  out. Like, yeah.
• 1:05:03
  Well, that's your whole day, dude.
• 1:05:03
  That's all the time I have. To play today, Yeah, it's Star
• 1:05:06
  Citizen. I know you know, you're a
• 1:05:12
  patient person. You can you can sit down.
• 1:05:14
  I love it though, don't change a thing.
• 1:05:16
  Sit down and wait. Yeah, don't, don't, don't
• 1:05:18
  change. Just put some put some games in
• 1:05:21
  my Moby glass or something. It adds weight to everything.
• 1:05:24
  If you got a buddy and they're doing some spacewalk and they're
• 1:05:27
  like eating, they're like, or they're doing some crazy
• 1:05:29
  sacrificing their ship or they're not going to make it and
• 1:05:32
  they die and they do this crazy effort and you're like, Nah,
• 1:05:36
  that guy's getting shipped back to Pyro.
• 1:05:37
  We're two systems away. That was a cheers.
• 1:05:42
  Hats off like it. It just adds more consequence.
• 1:05:46
  Everything gets richer. You know, that's how I play now,
• 1:05:50
  by the way. Very often I'll log on.
• 1:05:53
  No, not for the means, but very often I'll log on and I'll be
• 1:05:57
  like, OK, I'm going to play until I die.
• 1:06:00
  Like if I die, I'm done. Yeah, you just log on.
• 1:06:03
  Yeah, this is how I play, man. I'm in here for a fun little
• 1:06:05
  experience. And if I get take two in the
• 1:06:08
  Dome when the door opens, that's it.
• 1:06:11
  That's it. I love it.
• 1:06:14
  That's. I wouldn't trade that.
• 1:06:15
  I hope. Yeah.
• 1:06:16
  And I don't want people that are on Spectrum to be so loud to
• 1:06:20
  where the game shifts direction into being more coddling.
• 1:06:24
  I don't. Nah, make it brutal.
• 1:06:29
  Fuck yeah. My opinion though.
• 1:06:31
  Yeah, Raven, do you agree? Yeah, yeah, I I agree.
• 1:06:35
  I don't know what the direction is with all the base building
• 1:06:40
  stuff coming in the the crafting and whatsoever.
• 1:06:44
  I don't know if it's going to be harder, easier.
• 1:06:50
  I have no clue. We are go.
• 1:06:51
  We will go back to the the first question of the lack of
• 1:06:55
  direction, I would say. The first question was how did
• 1:06:59
  David Hasselhoff tear down the Berlin Wall?
• 1:07:01
  Oh yeah, the second question. That was the first question the.
• 1:07:06
  Second question then. Yeah, well, welcome to the
• 1:07:13
  European Opencoms, IE no, the IE special European spectacular.
• 1:07:18
  Did he have another caller, I thought.
• 1:07:20
  We, we did have another caller, but he he had, he had a pop out.
• 1:07:23
  Phantom Caller. Yeah, Wicked.
• 1:07:26
  Wicked. The cruise loxes have crushed
• 1:07:31
  Wicked's Internet, so he's not going to be able to to call in
• 1:07:35
  again today. That's fair.
• 1:07:38
  He was, yeah, on a cellular device.
• 1:07:42
  I thought Meme was going to join us.
• 1:07:46
  However, Meme has better things to do, supposedly.
• 1:07:51
  This is good I that's been a second since I background.
• 1:07:54
  It's good to talk to game. I love the Perseus has brought
• 1:07:56
  me back a a little bit. Well, mainly because the
• 1:08:00
  girlfriend likes Perseus and that that you play the game
• 1:08:02
  more, but it's a cool they finally figuring this out so
• 1:08:08
  much stuff. I've always wanted a bridge on a
• 1:08:11
  ship where you could see the front Idris too much ship.
• 1:08:15
  They really they did well with this one.
• 1:08:19
  What band have you chosen? So I got her, I got her the
• 1:08:23
  thing she doesn't have the the concierge thing.
• 1:08:25
  And I got her that. And I was like, I do.
• 1:08:27
  I don't let me just melt. And like, I saw one by some
• 1:08:31
  ships. Yeah, I got her the marble one.
• 1:08:32
  I didn't know it was marble. I thought it was white.
• 1:08:35
  And I was like, oh, white, Perseus would look so cool.
• 1:08:38
  And then we spawned it in game and I was like, man, this bitch
• 1:08:41
  is marble. Like, have you noticed this?
• 1:08:44
  Looks beyond that. Also the interior.
• 1:08:48
  Yeah, marble and the chairs are gold.
• 1:08:51
  Yep. Yeah.
• 1:08:52
  Hey, I love it. Don't get me wrong.
• 1:08:54
  We were on. We were there last.
• 1:08:57
  Reminds me of some Saudi Arabic Prince or something.
• 1:09:01
  You know those palaces? Yes, yes.
• 1:09:05
  How it reminds me, we were on the ship last night and we were
• 1:09:07
  like, and she's got the gold pattern and then we're sitting
• 1:09:11
  there next to the air like about to jump off to egress to this
• 1:09:13
  thing. And it's like helmets, helmets,
• 1:09:16
  Bo. They all put your helmets on
• 1:09:18
  just screaming at us. Girlfriend goes, darling, what
• 1:09:22
  is this poor man saying to us? Perfect, Because the yeah, it
• 1:09:30
  was. It's just so dumb having marble
• 1:09:32
  coated battleship. It's like a battle yacht.
• 1:09:36
  Yeah. Why?
• 1:09:38
  Yeah, why? For the memes.
• 1:09:41
  Just for the memes. For the memes and because
• 1:09:44
  resources are, you know, in Star Citizen, we are all very
• 1:09:48
  wealthy. Right.
• 1:09:51
  Yeah. What's?
• 1:09:54
  Crazy is you don't even have to be that wealthy you just have to
• 1:09:56
  be in this project for 10 years and your graduated cost from
• 1:10:01
  just buying the startership to oh I'll spend 45 maybe I'll
• 1:10:06
  spend 160 bucks a year. You play it for 10 years, you're
• 1:10:10
  at a Perseus, Polaris or whatever you want just for the
• 1:10:14
  fact they let you melt ships. Yeah.
• 1:10:17
  I mean, you could just spend 15 or 20 bucks a year on it to be
• 1:10:21
  honest, and you'd get, you'd get up there.
• 1:10:23
  Yeah, you'd get up there. So I always equated to like, I
• 1:10:27
  got people, wow, that give you a hard time for it.
• 1:10:29
  And it's like, man, you paid 2520 a month for damn year 11.
• 1:10:35
  Like come on now. Well, even even the FIFA
• 1:10:38
  players. Yeah, they do.
• 1:10:40
  Have to pay to play FIFA. You don't have to pay a
• 1:10:44
  subscription, but they have like they had like a card game.
• 1:10:47
  I don't know if it's in it anymore still, but people were
• 1:10:50
  spending like thousands of dollars on player cards in FIFA
• 1:10:55
  and then you could buy certain players, right?
• 1:10:59
  So you don't even like in FIFA, you don't even like unlock your
• 1:11:01
  players anymore. They just basically buy them the
• 1:11:04
  good ones at least. OK, seems fair.
• 1:11:10
  Yeah, I don't they would put nothing.
• 1:11:13
  FIFA went to a Star Citizen model and you had to pay for
• 1:11:17
  freaking, I don't know, pick your star.
• 1:11:20
  They do. They do that.
• 1:11:21
  It would not shock me at the least.
• 1:11:25
  Hold on, I'll show, I'll prove it to you FIFA by players or
• 1:11:31
  that's that's all you got to do for can I miss you say you're a
• 1:11:37
  great. FIFA Players For Sale FIFA was
• 1:11:39
  as an organization, that is, it is a extremely powerful
• 1:11:43
  organization. FIFA, if it weren't Star
• 1:11:47
  Citizen, it would own its own planet.
• 1:11:48
  It would probably own a. It's a whole system.
• 1:11:53
  You know. It would just, it would just be
• 1:11:56
  a soccer system and they'd have like multiple planets and each
• 1:12:00
  planet would have its own soccer team.
• 1:12:02
  Yeah. Oh gosh.
• 1:12:03
  And they'd. They'd be doing like.
• 1:12:05
  It sounds like a slavery. Yeah, they're like they're
• 1:12:09
  whipping people. They're like kidnapping.
• 1:12:11
  They got all kinds of shady stuff going on.
• 1:12:14
  It's less fun. But those, yeah, those soccer
• 1:12:17
  games, right? The soccer games are just like
• 1:12:20
  the secondary thing. It would be cool.
• 1:12:25
  I mean, we had racing in Star Citizen for what felt like a
• 1:12:29
  moment, for felt like a year there.
• 1:12:31
  They had the tracks, the tracks. The tracks that we lost.
• 1:12:37
  Is that also where we see I don't race?
• 1:12:39
  They lost. So if you're a racer, you lost
• 1:12:41
  that entire tree as well. I think so.
• 1:12:44
  I think it's not back. Yeah, because I haven't seen it.
• 1:12:47
  I haven't seen it in the mission thing.
• 1:12:48
  So damn, That's that's that's just what you want to build and
• 1:12:54
  you want it to grow. And recently it feels like it's
• 1:12:57
  a there's a little bit of a axe to the knees in terms of some of
• 1:13:02
  the content we had. That was really cool that yeah,
• 1:13:05
  those horse and missions, we're fantastic.
• 1:13:09
  There's just really cool locations in the game and you
• 1:13:11
  want people to. You want to show me your
• 1:13:14
  friends, you want missions to be there.
• 1:13:19
  Look, 300, Raven. OK, I see.
• 1:13:21
  I see. Raven and Tav if you want to buy
• 1:13:26
  Cristiano Ronaldo. I have a question.
• 1:13:29
  His rating is a 94 is $949 I. Was just how much is Ronaldo
• 1:13:36
  like? This is a third party site, but
• 1:13:38
  nonetheless. These players are like immortal.
• 1:13:42
  Does they have LTI? How does it work?
• 1:13:46
  There's what's the depreciation? That's it, Ronaldo.
• 1:13:50
  In real life, players get old. Exactly, I know what's the
• 1:13:57
  depreciation rate on on Ronaldo? If you do buy FIFA players, oh,
• 1:14:07
  FIFA coins, that was an ad. I guess that's how I got
• 1:14:11
  suckered into it. I guess you get it.
• 1:14:15
  They don't. There's only really these third
• 1:14:17
  party sites though, so I don't really understand.
• 1:14:21
  I guess. I guess I'd have to download the
• 1:14:24
  game you probably buy. Betting markets are so
• 1:14:26
  unchecked, at least in this country.
• 1:14:27
  I don't know how it is in, you know, in Europe, but it's yeah,
• 1:14:33
  it's crazy. We had our our two biggest
• 1:14:35
  fandom in the DraftKings have said no, we don't want to do the
• 1:14:38
  regulation thing. They just left.
• 1:14:40
  So yeah, it's it's gambling. About gambling.
• 1:14:46
  Yeah, yeah. It's tough to get.
• 1:14:48
  There is some regulation over here, but it depends on what a
• 1:14:55
  lot of stuff like the government has like its own hands in it.
• 1:15:00
  Just facts or a monopoly? Sure, sure.
• 1:15:13
  Well, gentlemen. Have we have we discussed the
• 1:15:18
  finer points of the Citizen? I'm really happy with the game
• 1:15:21
  right now. I'm going to I do these giant
• 1:15:24
  essentially A bipolar person's view of Star Citizen.
• 1:15:29
  Perseus was that was that was awesome and I'm glad it's not a
• 1:15:34
  do all ship when I'm on it and I'm like man, if this thing has
• 1:15:37
  a mid Bay I'm going to melt my Polaris.
• 1:15:40
  If this you convince mid Bay. And it's like, oh, it doesn't
• 1:15:42
  have a mid Bay. OK, all right, all right, all
• 1:15:44
  right. Maybe it's not the and the I get
• 1:15:46
  in the turret, the traversal speed on the turret is like
• 1:15:49
  you're not tracking a you're not even tracking a heavy fighter in
• 1:15:52
  that turret. Not well, at least.
• 1:15:56
  No, a heavy fighter could probably give a give it.
• 1:16:00
  Oh yeah dude. A nice Stinger I think.
• 1:16:02
  I'm a heavy fighter, so it's in a real niche, you know, niche
• 1:16:07
  spot, and I had the balance of it.
• 1:16:10
  I think they did a great job, great job, great attention to
• 1:16:14
  detail, all this more functionality.
• 1:16:15
  I'd love to have them retro hit the other ships.
• 1:16:19
  I mean the Connie. The Connie.
• 1:16:22
  Connie. It's like we just use this to
• 1:16:25
  blow up Connie's and it's like that's this is the punching bag
• 1:16:28
  of the whole universe right now is the Connie.
• 1:16:30
  And OK, All right. I mean, I love the Connie.
• 1:16:35
  I think it's still like, you know, you got you and a friend.
• 1:16:39
  It's a solid ship. But Perseus is coming out.
• 1:16:43
  It's heavy hitting. On on the art side you you can
• 1:16:47
  see the change between the purses and Polaris like Polaris
• 1:16:50
  is. Yeah, doesn't have the detail
• 1:16:53
  Perseus has, Yeah. It's like there's a huge
• 1:16:57
  difference and it's only one year apart.
• 1:17:00
  Like on the art department. Seems like it's almost obsolete.
• 1:17:04
  Which is I know, I know. You're are you a, you're a
• 1:17:06
  merchant man. Guy, right?
• 1:17:09
  Yep. You're does this give you a
• 1:17:11
  little bit of faith of like, 'cause I'm so I was also six
• 1:17:15
  years or or I was Polaris a concept and when it came out I
• 1:17:18
  was tickled so pink like it was it was amazing.
• 1:17:22
  And now that I see the Perseus, I'm like, my Polaris doesn't
• 1:17:25
  look like that kind of sucks. Are you at least got some faith
• 1:17:30
  in that your merchantman now by delaying it?
• 1:17:33
  At least when the. Merchantman comes down, but.
• 1:17:35
  That's gonna be some fears. I have also some fears because
• 1:17:39
  they already started a bunch of work on it.
• 1:17:42
  And if they figure out later that some of the fundamentals
• 1:17:46
  work that you already done is not good, are they going to be,
• 1:17:50
  are they willing to redo it? Are they going to go through it?
• 1:17:54
  Because like the whole gameplay about shops, it's not there and
• 1:18:02
  it's not designed. They designed the ship, designed
• 1:18:04
  the ship around that, but we don't have the gameplay.
• 1:18:07
  So maybe the gameplay will need different designs.
• 1:18:10
  You remember what I did, They had that whole merchantman's
• 1:18:13
  coming there. God, it must have been three
• 1:18:14
  years ago now they and Jared was there going.
• 1:18:17
  He was really excited talking about it and I was, I was like,
• 1:18:22
  Oh my God. You know everybody, a lot of
• 1:18:24
  people I've known that play the game since for 10-15 years have
• 1:18:26
  had a merchantman like or ever since that was announced, since
• 1:18:30
  concept. They were like, that's my ship.
• 1:18:32
  And I was like. Gosh, we're a decade.
• 1:18:33
  We're a decade now later, OK, But you have some more
• 1:18:42
  confidence now having to release the, you know, the Perseus to
• 1:18:45
  where you think the Merchantman is going to be of a higher
• 1:18:47
  caliber. Because, as I understood, the
• 1:18:49
  Merchantman team was let go. They transferred, they left.
• 1:18:56
  Yeah. What?
• 1:18:56
  Happened. They went to the other space
• 1:18:59
  game, the one with the IT was crypto bullshit.
• 1:19:05
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the crypto. The crypto, yeah.
• 1:19:09
  Yeah, something like that. I I don't know what you're
• 1:19:11
  talking about. They sold you like whole planets
• 1:19:13
  and stuff. I was thinking about that game
• 1:19:18
  the other day, is it still alive?
• 1:19:21
  Is it still active? I don't.
• 1:19:22
  Know. Oh, the.
• 1:19:28
  Website is still on. Sure, really.
• 1:19:34
  It's Star Atlas, right? Yeah.
• 1:19:36
  Yeah, it is. Yeah, that was it.
• 1:19:40
  It's all video. But there was a shop.
• 1:19:42
  It it was all high, I mean, but you.
• 1:19:44
  Have that's what you used now rating.
• 1:19:45
  That like when it comes out, it'll be of 'cause I'm just
• 1:19:51
  thinking of all these older ships that they have this
• 1:19:53
  pattern now. They have a lot of legacy ships.
• 1:19:58
  I mean, they introduced, I mean, every year we got a new starter.
• 1:20:01
  Now there's just a lot of legacy ships.
• 1:20:06
  Connie I think being a big one. Ships that never came to be.
• 1:20:10
  Merchantman. This Star Atlas game looks like
• 1:20:15
  it might actually be a game. We But when you play, it's a
• 1:20:22
  Star Citizen hanger, is it not? No, it looks like they have a a
• 1:20:27
  game. I think you can.
• 1:20:31
  Am I looking at the wrong game? This looks like a fun.
• 1:20:34
  Game No, that's this one. I last I saw that it was a year
• 1:20:37
  ago so Dang this is probably. If I remember correctly, you
• 1:20:40
  have to pay like when you refuel the ship, you have to pay real
• 1:20:43
  money to refuel. The ship.
• 1:20:45
  Really. I might be wrong.
• 1:20:48
  I remember there was someone at the bar Citizen in Milan two
• 1:20:53
  years ago. I think he was trying to
• 1:20:55
  convince me to play this game. But you and you pay in like
• 1:21:01
  crypto, and so you're paying like fractions of a penny each
• 1:21:04
  time you do a thing. No thank you.
• 1:21:12
  That might stick, though. You never know.
• 1:21:15
  You never know, it's made in a real engine, so.
• 1:21:21
  OK, yeah, it doesn't look like it.
• 1:21:24
  It looks fun. It's just it's still a little
• 1:21:29
  like more cartoony than Star Citizen is, I think, right.
• 1:21:35
  It's a little like it looks good.
• 1:21:38
  It looks really good on an Xbox 360.
• 1:21:40
  I respect the hustle though, like.
• 1:21:43
  Yeah. Yeah, conversations with people
• 1:21:45
  talking about the business model, stuff like, and you're
• 1:21:47
  just thinking of like, OK, well, how do you do it differently?
• 1:21:49
  How do you replicate what's made their success?
• 1:21:52
  And I never imagined it didn't cross my mind.
• 1:21:55
  Make the same game and charge them for the fuel.
• 1:22:03
  Brilliant. Brilliant.
• 1:22:05
  Brilliant. Didn't even cross my mind.
• 1:22:08
  I was never that sinister, like, oh, that is good.
• 1:22:14
  Yeah, dude, yeah. In every genius, you're
• 1:22:20
  constantly. That means you're constantly
• 1:22:22
  think about it. You're constantly spending money
• 1:22:24
  all the time, every, every, everything you're doing.
• 1:22:28
  You're spending money in your in your free time.
• 1:22:31
  Now you're refueling your shipping.
• 1:22:32
  You're like throwing pennies at it.
• 1:22:35
  That's crazy. You think there's someone?
• 1:22:39
  It'd be hilarious. You're on one planet and.
• 1:22:41
  You're gramming you. Yeah.
• 1:22:45
  I'm still it doesn't cost money. Hey, man, I'm on this planet.
• 1:22:49
  Can you come out here and I got some crazy things to show you?
• 1:22:51
  Nah, man, it's been a it's been a rough month.
• 1:22:54
  I can't, I can't put fuel on the ship to get out to you.
• 1:22:59
  Talk about Yeah, mimicking real life.
• 1:23:03
  It has a a 4.8 stars on the Epic Game Store.
• 1:23:09
  What? So, you know, what do we know?
• 1:23:17
  I haven't seen any videos about it or anything, I'm just
• 1:23:21
  undiscovered. Yeah, well, it's built on the
• 1:23:26
  Solana blockchain, so there you go.
• 1:23:31
  I'm I'm actually concerned with this as a person who has.
• 1:23:38
  Maybe they do free fly. Yeah.
• 1:23:41
  And you've got a discounted game package.
• 1:23:44
  You can upgrade it to another. Yeah, I just first need to buy
• 1:23:49
  Solana. Yeah, I'm already at a star
• 1:23:53
  system level of swindle me once, swindle me twice like George
• 1:24:01
  Bush over here, swindle me, You can't get swindled again.
• 1:24:04
  Can't get swindled again. So so our citizen are not
• 1:24:08
  studying concepts anymore. Let's switch games.
• 1:24:14
  Yeah, well, what do you mean jpegs?
• 1:24:16
  Dude come on, fuck it, I'm going to get NFTS now.
• 1:24:20
  Yeah, I've. Learned my lesson.
• 1:24:22
  No more jpegs, just NFTS. Yeah.
• 1:24:28
  Fuck, dude. OK, well, I don't want to take
• 1:24:32
  up all your time today, everybody.
• 1:24:36
  Raven, I know you said you had to go somewhere eventually.
• 1:24:39
  Yeah, I don't know if it's that time.
• 1:24:41
  Too bad. Thank you for popping on Raven.
• 1:24:46
  Thank you. Yeah, if you ever do again, show
• 1:24:51
  in a more European friendly time.
• 1:24:54
  European spectacular. Yeah, of course, of course.
• 1:24:57
  Yeah, of course. Hardly.
• 1:24:58
  Hop on. It's great talking to you.
• 1:25:01
  Thank you again. Well, well, before you leave, I
• 1:25:04
  do want to ask you, as I ask every guest, is there anything
• 1:25:08
  you'd like to say to Chris Roberts, CIG or the people on
• 1:25:11
  the Internet? Have a question?
• 1:25:17
  What do I? I don't care.
• 1:25:21
  Please, Chris. I don't care about the the bad
• 1:25:26
  sheets. Thank you.
• 1:25:33
  OK. All right, I don't have any.
• 1:25:37
  I thought there was more. I thought I was like, there's
• 1:25:42
  needles. Over here.
• 1:25:43
  You OK? You don't care about the bad
• 1:25:47
  ships, you said. The, the bad sheets, the, you
• 1:25:50
  know, the they were like what, a couple years back there was this
• 1:25:56
  monthly report where they were improving.
• 1:25:59
  The. Bed.
• 1:26:00
  Yeah. Oh fuck dude.
• 1:26:04
  OK, OK, I care about the bed sheets.
• 1:26:10
  See, you're on Idris right now. Like the Idris needs that
• 1:26:13
  Perseus signage. Everything anymore.
• 1:26:15
  See what happened. Oh, OK all.
• 1:26:19
  Right, this happened to me again, just not today when I was
• 1:26:22
  flying to land in my hangar. You're going back with the
• 1:26:27
  retracting? Yeah.
• 1:26:30
  It just disappeared. Idris isn't the older model
• 1:26:33
  anyway. Yeah, I.
• 1:26:37
  Think it's the. I think it's not the model in
• 1:26:39
  Squadron 42. I think it's the the old model
• 1:26:42
  the. One, I don't know they they
• 1:26:43
  updated it. I don't know like where it
• 1:26:45
  stands right now, but yeah, it's more in line with the the
• 1:26:50
  hammerhead in terms of like its age, I think and how it looks
• 1:26:56
  and, and everything just got that older feel, which is cool.
• 1:27:01
  I'm, I'm I'm happy to see the game have, you know, different
• 1:27:05
  feels as to as time goes on, you know, generation one of Star
• 1:27:09
  Citizen, like Star Trek, there's different generations of it and
• 1:27:13
  feels of it and. Begging horror.
• 1:27:16
  OK with that. Mark 1.
• 1:27:18
  Mark 2. Yeah.
• 1:27:20
  Yeah, Connie. One day of Mark 2 isn't mark we
• 1:27:27
  got, we got 1.5 so. I think, I think Connie is like
• 1:27:32
  Mark Four or something like that.
• 1:27:33
  Yeah, it's had a lot of updates. I remember when all we had was
• 1:27:37
  Port Olisar. Yeah, it was.
• 1:27:42
  Or even the hangar. Yeah, it's it definitely has
• 1:27:44
  gotten a lot of updates, but. One thing doesn't change the PT.
• 1:27:53
  Actually no they changed. They changed the HUD in the PTV.
• 1:27:58
  Raven we should do next time. Like Mystery Science 3000 of a
• 1:28:02
  sci-fi movie. We got to put that in the
• 1:28:04
  docket. We just got to find the right
• 1:28:07
  movie to make fun of. There's so many choices.
• 1:28:12
  There's so many. Wing Commander.
• 1:28:14
  We did that one, and that was hilarious.
• 1:28:16
  Yeah, we did it. Oh, my gosh.
• 1:28:18
  Do you know what that Chris Roberts he is.
• 1:28:24
  You would have done it too. Yeah.
• 1:28:26
  Yeah. I would have.
• 1:28:29
  I just saw the substance. The substance I'm not.
• 1:28:34
  Familiar with that one you? Can't it's kind of a sci-fi.
• 1:28:38
  It's it's with Demi Moore, it's on HP, the substance she take.
• 1:28:46
  It's basically like a plan Botox.
• 1:28:48
  Like she takes the substance and then she wakes up and she's in a
• 1:28:53
  younger body. But there's a lot more to it to
• 1:28:57
  that there's a sci-fi element. Demi Moore having a femur dream.
• 1:29:01
  She's she's naked in a lot of in like most of the movie.
• 1:29:04
  Not most, but like half the movie.
• 1:29:08
  Yeah. So 10.
• 1:29:11
  Off air to have a different conversation about Demi Moore.
• 1:29:15
  All right. Well, thank you, Tab.
• 1:29:17
  We did it. We did it.
• 1:29:18
  We did it. We.
• 1:29:20
  Made it. Yeah, now the game's in.
• 1:29:22
  I think the game's in the grace the the new people that have
• 1:29:25
  come to the game right now, they're having fun.
• 1:29:28
  So that to me means the game's in a fun spot, so.
• 1:29:34
  Yeah, Yeah. Good on you.
• 1:29:38
  Well, we're going to end this how we usually end it to have.
• 1:29:43
  We bring it back to the we don't Hawaii Cinco, dude.
• 1:29:47
  You got dude, you got. It's a vibe.