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HW 2026-09-24 Top 10, Part 1 - Charles Mills · Heartwise

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  Speaker 1: This is HeartWise, offering practical tips and time-proven guidelines to
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  Speaker 1: make your life healthier, happier, and more fulfilling. Today you'll
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  Speaker 1: learn simple Bible-based principles for building and maintaining optimum mental
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  Speaker 1: and physical health, all while deepening your relationship with your Creator.
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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, this is Charles Mills, health reporter for HeartWise Ministries.
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  Speaker 1: Our guest today is a physician, author, and internationally recognized
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  Speaker 1: speaker on nutrition, food safety, and public health issues. That's
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  Speaker 1: all fine and good, but what gives him the greatest
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  Speaker 1: value to you and to me is that he spends
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  Speaker 1: an enormous amount of time each year poring over the
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  Speaker 1: latest studies on the subject of clinical nutrition. Which studies,
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  Speaker 1: you ask? All of them. And then he condenses their
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  Speaker 1: findings into short, concise video presentations that even we can understand.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to clinical nutrition, he's totally the man.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Greger, welcome to HeartWise.
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  Speaker 2: It's so good to be back.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'd like to spend some time together on
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  Speaker 1: this program going over the top 10 information requests that
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  Speaker 1: your amazing website, nutritionfacts.org, has received as of late. This
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  Speaker 1: should give us a pretty good idea of what the
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  Speaker 1: general public and our listening audience wants to know about
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  Speaker 1: their health. I was surprised by some of these top
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  Speaker 1: 10 requested videos, and perhaps you can tell me why
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  Speaker 1: people included them in their searches. Number 10 is your video,
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  Speaker 1: Doping with Beet Juice. Now, why do you think that
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  Speaker 1: particular subject made the top 10, and what do the
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  Speaker 1: studies tell us?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's because it's kind of a really groundbreaking
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  Speaker 2: work and i try to when i pick uh... through
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  Speaker 2: the you know thousands of articles are published every year
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  Speaker 2: in the uh... scientific literature you know i i really
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  Speaker 2: have kind of three criteria one it's got to be
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  Speaker 2: interesting otherwise no one's going to watch it do i
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  Speaker 2: look for stuff that's really groundbreaking you know something comes
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  Speaker 2: up as broccoli is good i'm like you've been there
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  Speaker 2: done that you know i'm looking for the new science
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  Speaker 2: and third i want to make a practical you know
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  Speaker 2: they need to be able to you know kind of
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  Speaker 2: change our day-to-day grocery store decisions yes And the doping
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  Speaker 2: with beet juice really kind of hit all three. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: one of the fundamental gospels of sports physiology really got
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  Speaker 2: turned on its head. I mean, you look at any
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  Speaker 2: kind of exercise physiology textbook, and basically they've had to
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  Speaker 2: have been kind of thrown out of the window based
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  Speaker 2: on this new science. And basically, you know, when athletes train,
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  Speaker 2: and the reason you get better and better the more
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  Speaker 2: you train is you can improve oxygen delivery to your muscles.
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  Speaker 2: And so, you know, people can take larger breaths. You
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  Speaker 2: can have a stronger heart muscle to, you know, boost
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  Speaker 2: blood flow to your muscles. You even start making more
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  Speaker 2: red blood cells to deliver oxygen to your muscles faster.
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  Speaker 2: But the energy ultimately derived from oxygen was thought to
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  Speaker 2: always remain the same. You get X amount of oxygen
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  Speaker 2: to your muscles. You get X amount of work, period.
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  Speaker 2: I talk about, you know, on the same gasoline, a
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  Speaker 2: Lamborghini goes faster than some, you But it's not because
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  Speaker 2: the chemistry of gasoline combustion is different. You've just got
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  Speaker 2: a more powerful engine. So if you have bigger muscles,
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  Speaker 2: you get more oxygen to those muscles quicker, you can
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  Speaker 2: get more work, but the fundamental energy extracted from the
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  Speaker 2: oxygen remains the same, or so we thought. That's really
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  Speaker 2: where these nitrate-containing vegetables, such as beet juice, if I
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  Speaker 2: talk about there's even better choices like arugula, some of
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  Speaker 2: these dark green leafy vegetables, have these nitrates in them,
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  Speaker 2: and in our body through this, really fascinating, kind of
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  Speaker 2: complicated detective story fashion. I basically have three weeks of
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  Speaker 2: videos going through this whole fascinating thing. But bottom line.
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  Speaker 2: showed that by eating these nitrate-rich vegetables, you can actually
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  Speaker 2: do the same work with 19% less oxygen. And there's
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  Speaker 2: no known drug, steroid, substance on the planet that can
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  Speaker 2: increase our energy extraction from oxygen until we've learned about vegetables,
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  Speaker 2: of all things. And so this works on the track.
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  Speaker 2: This works in the laboratory. You can actually significantly improve
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  Speaker 2: endurance and significantly improve athletic performance eating vegetables.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we need to really change our vision of what
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  Speaker 1: an athlete is. We're thinking this is the guy that's
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  Speaker 1: drinking all this milk. This is the guy that's eating
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  Speaker 1: the steak. or the woman that's eaten the steak. And
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  Speaker 1: we're wrong. We are looking now at a whole new
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  Speaker 1: paradigm of what it takes to be the healthiest you
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  Speaker 1: can be. Am I on the right track?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And also, I mean, this is not even getting
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  Speaker 2: into the anti-inflammatory and antioxidant effects, which improve recovery time.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's really, particularly for really the elite athletes,
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  Speaker 2: it's all about shortening recovery time so you can get
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  Speaker 2: back and you can train harder without the muscle soreness
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  Speaker 2: while maintaining those improvements in a muscle capacity. And so, really,
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  Speaker 2: plant foods win on all three kind of pillars that
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  Speaker 2: support elite athletic performance. But look, you know, you don't
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  Speaker 2: have to be an endurance athlete and run, you know, ultra-marathons.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that, you know, these vegetables can actually improve
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  Speaker 2: the amount of energy we can extract from our food,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it makes sense on day-to-day life, whether we're
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  Speaker 2: manual laborers or just, you know, walking up the stairs,
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  Speaker 2: down the stairs to get the paper in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, fantastic. Okay, if you're training for that marathon, forget
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  Speaker 1: the beef, let's go with beets. There you go. Number nine,
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  Speaker 1: a better breakfast. People were wondering what they need to
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  Speaker 1: do to start their day off better. This is a
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  Speaker 1: good sign, wouldn't you say?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely. This was really one of my most
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  Speaker 2: practical videos, which really kind of help people make various decisions.
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  Speaker 2: So basically... You know, I compare kind of a standard
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  Speaker 2: breakfast fare here in the United States to various possibilities.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what happens when you compare it to the
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  Speaker 2: antioxidant content? For example, you know, oatmeal. What happens when
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  Speaker 2: you add some cinnamon on that oatmeal? What happens, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you make a smoothie comparatively in terms of berries
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  Speaker 2: and making green smoothies, adding some dark green leafy vegetables in?
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  Speaker 2: and try to compile, you know, kind of how could
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  Speaker 2: you kind of maximize one's start to one's day. And
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  Speaker 2: then regardless of what happens, no matter how busy we get,
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  Speaker 2: no matter how on the run we are throughout the day,
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  Speaker 2: at least we got that good foundation. And so it
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  Speaker 2: really is indeed the most important meal of the day,
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  Speaker 2: but it can be a really bad way to start
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  Speaker 2: out the day, inflaming one's arteries, you know, sludging one's bloodstream,
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  Speaker 2: or you can get your entire antioxidant needs for the
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  Speaker 2: day filled in just one simple breakfast.
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  Speaker 1: Very good. So it's not just the fact that you
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  Speaker 1: eat breakfast. It's what you eat for breakfast. That's very,
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  Speaker 1: very important.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I mean, if you're eating the standard American fare,
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  Speaker 2: it would be better to skip breakfast. I mean, seriously,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of a scary situation, but there's some wonderful, convenient, fast,
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  Speaker 2: helpful ways to start your day.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that falls beautifully into number eight in your top
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  Speaker 1: ten searches on nutritionfacts.org. The benefits of caloric restriction without
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  Speaker 1: actual restricting. How do we do that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, one of the ways we think that caloric restriction works,
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  Speaker 2: we know that the caloric restriction in other animals... whether
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  Speaker 2: from fruit flies all the way on up into primates,
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  Speaker 2: eating fewer calories while maintaining adequate nutrition appears to extend
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  Speaker 2: the lifespan of animals. And so we're kind of speculating
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  Speaker 2: that the same may work for human beings. But we
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  Speaker 2: didn't know the mechanism. And so there's been a lot of,
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  Speaker 2: because it's very difficult to, you know, you feel like
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  Speaker 2: you're starving all day. People do these kind of every
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  Speaker 2: other day fasts. And so it's just really not sustainable,
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  Speaker 2: or at least certainly not sustainable for the vast majority
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  Speaker 2: of us. And so really, it's been the drug companies
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  Speaker 2: that have done most of the research in this area,
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  Speaker 2: trying to find out, well, if there's a mechanism, can
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  Speaker 2: we kind of replicate that same kind of caloric restriction benefit,
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  Speaker 2: but without having to starve ourselves all the time for
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  Speaker 2: that theoretical benefit? And kind of the leading theory is
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  Speaker 2: that it may be all about this steroid hormone in
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  Speaker 2: our body called the DHEA, dehydroepine drosterone, which is basically
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  Speaker 2: the most abundant steroid hormone in the human body. But
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  Speaker 2: as we age, it tends to drop. Levels in our
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  Speaker 2: bloodstream tend to drop. And when one fasts, when one
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  Speaker 2: calorically restricts, you can actually maintain those levels throughout in
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  Speaker 2: the body. They think that may be one of the
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  Speaker 2: ways that works. And so it's a kind of a
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  Speaker 2: popular over-the-counter supplement, but I talk about in the video
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  Speaker 2: that's not the way to go. It's risky. You don't
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  Speaker 2: know exactly what's in it. So there is an alternative,
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  Speaker 2: a healthful alternative. It actually can do the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: By using plant-based diet, it's not that you make any
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  Speaker 2: more of this hormone, but actually something that modulates your
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  Speaker 2: kidneys so that you actually lose less. You actually excrete
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  Speaker 2: less DHEA in your urine every day to actually maintain
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  Speaker 2: high levels. In fact, the levels that you'd get if
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  Speaker 2: you fasted or if you really cut down on your
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  Speaker 2: food so you can get the benefits, you can maintain
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  Speaker 2: this kind of fountain of youth hormone, quote-unquote, levels in
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  Speaker 2: your body by just eating a diet centered around plant
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  Speaker 2: foods so you can get the benefits. But you can
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  Speaker 2: eat all you want until you're full and still get
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  Speaker 2: the benefits.
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  Speaker 1: All right, fantastic. You know, this T. Colin Campbell talks
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  Speaker 1: about scientific reductionism, and I think this is the case
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  Speaker 1: where they take DHEA and make it a supplement. Let's
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  Speaker 1: have it in the food. Let's have the food all
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  Speaker 1: put together. Let's have the whole foods there. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I hear you saying, right?
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  Speaker 2: There are tens of thousands of phytonutrients In food, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you look at the back of a food, you look
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  Speaker 2: at the nutrition facts label, it lists maybe eight of them. Literally,
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  Speaker 2: there are tens of thousands. The only way, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we just can't outsmart our creator, basically. You know, we
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  Speaker 2: need to eat food as they were grown because they're
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  Speaker 2: all in there in just the right proportions to maximize
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  Speaker 2: our health, and there's no way we can cock that
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  Speaker 2: in a laboratory.
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  Speaker 1: We're looking now at the number seven most searched subject
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  Speaker 1: that is on your site, nutritionfacts.org, and Crohn's disease. People
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  Speaker 1: are wondering about Crohn's disease. Is this something that apparently
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  Speaker 1: is something that is growing as a problem in this country?
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  Speaker 2: Crohn's disease, it's a really debilitating disease, and sadly it
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  Speaker 2: strikes people kind of as young adults in their 20s.
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  Speaker 2: It really set them up for a lifetime of But
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  Speaker 2: being in and out of the hospital, getting parts of
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  Speaker 2: their intestines, which become inflamed, cut out, you know, they're
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  Speaker 2: kind of chained to the bathroom their whole lives. It
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  Speaker 2: can really affect one's quality of life. Basically, the best
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  Speaker 2: kind of drugs we have, the best attempts that we
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  Speaker 2: have is surgery. We just cut out the inflamed bowel.
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  Speaker 2: But there's only so much you can cut out before
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  Speaker 2: you don't have any intestine left. and also immunosuppressive drugs
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  Speaker 2: like chemotherapy drugs, high-dose steroids to suppress one's immune system
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  Speaker 2: because it's an autoimmune disease where your own body, your
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  Speaker 2: own immune system attacks your intestines. It's been very frustrating
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  Speaker 2: for patients and doctors. There haven't been any good therapies
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  Speaker 2: until these Japanese researchers came along and tried a semi-vegetarian diet.
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  Speaker 2: So these are people that cut dramatically back, just had
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  Speaker 2: a few servings of meat a week, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: even a strictly plant-based diet, and they achieved... the longest
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  Speaker 2: recorded remission rates for Crohn diseases ever. So compared to
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  Speaker 2: any drug, compared to any surgical treatment, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: whole point of treatment in this disease is to keep
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  Speaker 2: the active abouts, these active periods of inflammation as few
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  Speaker 2: and far between as possible. And they were able to
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  Speaker 2: achieve that by switching people from their standard diet to
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  Speaker 2: a mostly vegetarian diet. And we got the best results
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  Speaker 2: ever seen. That's something Really exciting. We've known for years
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  Speaker 2: that you can prevent these inflammatory bowel diseases like Crohn's disease,
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  Speaker 2: ulcerative colitis, by avoiding meat, eggs, and dairy. But this,
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  Speaker 2: for the first time ever, again, this is really kind
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  Speaker 2: of groundbreaking, exciting work that we can actually use diet
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  Speaker 2: to treat the disease and suppress the inflammation.
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  Speaker 1: Boy, that is good news for a whole lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: We'll take a short break, and when we come back,
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  Speaker 1: more with Dr. Michael Greger on the top 10 searches
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  Speaker 1: on his website, nutritionfacts.org. Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 3: Hello? Testing, testing. Yes, it's working. Dear diary, this is Kim.
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  Speaker 3: My teacher in health class told us to keep a
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  Speaker 3: record of what we're doing to stay healthy each day
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  Speaker 3: this week. I'm using this voice recorder so I don't
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  Speaker 3: have to write everything down, which is a good thing
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  Speaker 3: because I can't read my own writing. Dad says I
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  Speaker 3: should be a doctor. I'm 12 years old, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: supposed to tell you what I did today to stay healthy. Well,
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  Speaker 3: first of all, I ate breakfast. A lot of kids
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  Speaker 3: my age don't eat breakfast. They drink something sweet or
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  Speaker 3: wolf down a donut on the way to the bus.
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  Speaker 3: That's totally not healthy. In just a few hours, they're
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  Speaker 3: so hungry they can't think straight, or they go to
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  Speaker 3: sleep at their desks because they don't have any energy.
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  Speaker 3: All that sugar makes them feel good for about 30 minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Then they get depressed because their bodies don't have any
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  Speaker 3: fuel left. That's what our health teacher calls food. Fuel.
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  Speaker 3: I ate a big bowl of whole grain cereal with
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  Speaker 3: some peaches, honey, and soy milk on top. Then I
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  Speaker 3: grabbed a handful of mixed nuts and finished with a
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  Speaker 3: sliced apple. It was delicious. That breakfast kept me going
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  Speaker 3: strong until lunch. I didn't get sleepy or hungry, which
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  Speaker 3: is a good thing because we had a history test
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  Speaker 3: this morning and I needed at least a B. Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Jensen said I got a B +. So what did
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  Speaker 3: I learn about health today? Eat a good breakfast. It
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  Speaker 3: can keep you awake and maybe help your grades.
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  Speaker 1: God has given us everything we need to be healthy
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  Speaker 1: inside and out. During Creation Week, he established a health
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  Speaker 1: plan for every creature on earth. To learn more about
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  Speaker 1: healthy living and about the God who created us all,
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  Speaker 1: go to kidsbibleinfo.com. That's kidsbibleinfo.com. This program was brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by the Children's Ministries Department of the General Conference
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  Speaker 1: of Seventh-day Adventists. Welcome back to the program. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Charles Mills. We're here with Dr. Michael Greger. He is
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  Speaker 1: the power behind the NutritionFacts.org website. He's also a physician,
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  Speaker 1: an author, and internationally recognized speaker on nutrition, food safety,
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  Speaker 1: and public health issues. We're going over the 10 top
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  Speaker 1: requested searches on that website, NutritionFacts.org. We're down to number 60.
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  Speaker 1: And apparently people are wanting to boost their serotonin. Now,
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  Speaker 1: why are they searching for serotonin and why do they
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  Speaker 1: want to boost it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so serotonin has been kind of dubbed by the
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  Speaker 2: popular press the happiness hormone. That's how anti-depression drugs like
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  Speaker 2: Prozac work, by boosting one's levels of serotonin in the brain,
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  Speaker 2: which may elevate one's mood. But I talk about really
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  Speaker 2: there's kind of the wrong way to boost serotonin, a
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  Speaker 2: better way, really the best way to do that. Now,
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  Speaker 2: we know, for example, in so-called cross-sectional studies that people
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  Speaker 2: eating plant-based diets have significantly better moods than people eating
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  Speaker 2: the standard American diet. And so they have less depression.
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  Speaker 2: They have less anxiety. They have less stress. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you can't prove cause and effect if you just look
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  Speaker 2: kind of in one snapshot in time. Maybe people who
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  Speaker 2: have better mental health go on to eat healthier rather
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  Speaker 2: than the other way around. You don't know until you
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  Speaker 2: put it to the test. And so that's what the
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  Speaker 2: really new exciting research is, which came out last year,
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  Speaker 2: where they took people eating conventional diets, they took out meat, poultry, fish,
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  Speaker 2: and eggs out of their diet and saw a significant
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  Speaker 2: improvement in mood in two weeks, in just a two-week time.
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  Speaker 2: And it can take drugs months sometimes to take an effect,
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  Speaker 2: and within two weeks, significant boost in mood. And the
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  Speaker 2: question is exactly what is going on. So it turns
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  Speaker 2: out there's actually kind of Two ways. One is you're
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  Speaker 2: getting rid of the inflammatory arachidonic acid, this inflammatory compound
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  Speaker 2: that's found in animal products, particularly chicken and eggs. So
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  Speaker 2: by removing that from your diet, you get less of
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  Speaker 2: this brain inflammation, which may be depressing mood states. And
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  Speaker 2: then the other side of the story is by eating
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  Speaker 2: plant foods, you're boosting levels of serotonin in the brain. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there's other ways you can do that. Again, these tryptophan supplements,
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  Speaker 2: not a good thing. People have died taking these supplements.
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  Speaker 2: And so how can we healthfully boost serotonin? We can
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  Speaker 2: eat more specific plant foods that I talk about. And
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  Speaker 2: so by eating more plant foods, less animal foods, we
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  Speaker 2: can actually improve our mood and get back to a
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  Speaker 2: healthier mood state.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I wish that everyone in the world
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  Speaker 1: could hear that because we seem to be a very
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  Speaker 1: depressed nation, a very depressed world, and it could be connected. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it is connected directly to what we're eating, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's very good news for all of us. Plant-based diet,
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  Speaker 1: whole food, plant-based diet. Speaking of diets, now this next
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  Speaker 1: section in your most searched videos, the question was asked,
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  Speaker 1: is it diet or exercise or both? And if you
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  Speaker 1: say both, tell us why and where you need to
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  Speaker 1: put each of those.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no, I actually do have videos talking about
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  Speaker 2: weight loss, whether diets are exercise. People tend to have
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  Speaker 2: this misconception that it's kind of equally important what you
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  Speaker 2: eat and how much you move, kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the in versus out equation. of calories. And I explained that, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's really, really, most people get it wrong, and that
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  Speaker 2: what we put in our mouth is much more important.
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  Speaker 2: And so I talk about the simple things, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just the amount of, you'd have to, you know, jog
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  Speaker 2: three miles every day to burn off the calories found
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  Speaker 2: in two chicken legs. And that's, you know, for example,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and that's skinless, steamed, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's such caloric density, particularly in the animal foods, that
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  Speaker 2: you really can't. It'd be very difficult to compensate that
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  Speaker 2: through exercise. But this particular video is talking about cancer-killing ability.
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  Speaker 2: If you actually put people on different diets and take
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  Speaker 2: their blood, drip it on human cancer cells growing in
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  Speaker 2: a Petri dish, you can actually determine which diet is
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  Speaker 2: better at boosting one's kind of cancer-stopping ability of the bloodstream.
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  Speaker 2: And these experiments were done in the context of exercise.
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  Speaker 2: They had people out walking 30 to 60 minutes a day.
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  Speaker 2: And when you take people on standard American diet, switch
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  Speaker 2: them to a plant-based diet, and you add this mild exercise,
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  Speaker 2: you can get this dramatic improvement in cancer-stopping power. But
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  Speaker 2: then the criticism was raised, the way you're doing two things.
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  Speaker 2: You're changing exercise level and you're changing diet. How do
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  Speaker 2: we know what's doing what? So research put it to
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  Speaker 2: the test. And so they compared people eating the kind
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  Speaker 2: of standard American diet and who are basically couch potatoes
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  Speaker 2: eating fried potatoes. I mean, these are people, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, kind of the standard run-of-the-mill person and measured
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  Speaker 2: the cancer-stopping power of their blood, which is essentially non-existent,
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  Speaker 2: compared to people who were eating plant-based diet for 14 years,
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  Speaker 2: 14 years eating healthy diets and, again, moderately. exercise, you know, walking,
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  Speaker 2: you know, half an hour, 60 minutes a day. And
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  Speaker 2: then compared to the third group, and this is the
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  Speaker 2: first time this is done, so these are people eating
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  Speaker 2: the standard American diet, but these people who were exercising intensely,
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  Speaker 2: so an hour a day in the gym doing something
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  Speaker 2: like calisthenics, so really you know, intense exercise over those
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  Speaker 2: 14-year periods at clocking 5,000 hours in the gym. They
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  Speaker 2: wanted to know if people exercise long enough, hard enough,
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  Speaker 2: can you kind of rival some strolling plant eaters? And
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  Speaker 2: so that was the experiment that was put to the test.
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  Speaker 2: They found out that exercise worked, no doubt. But nothing
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  Speaker 2: appeared to kind of, you know, kick more cancer tush
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  Speaker 2: than eating a plant-based diet. And so even just those
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  Speaker 2: that were just, you know, doing mild exercise, as long
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  Speaker 2: as they were eating healthy, their bloodstream was better. Their
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  Speaker 2: bloodstream was more kind of inhospitable to cancer, you know,
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  Speaker 2: no matter how many hours compared to no matter how
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  Speaker 2: many hours you spend in the gym. So it really
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  Speaker 2: seemed to be, you know, again, come back to diet.
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  Speaker 2: Diet is more important. If you think about it, we
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  Speaker 2: are what we eat. Literally, physically, we're just made of air, water, sunlight,
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  Speaker 2: and food. That's what we are entirely. We replace our
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  Speaker 2: entire body. Our cells come and they go. So what
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  Speaker 2: we eat determines our health.
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  Speaker 1: My, that means, like you say, that if you are
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  Speaker 1: on a plant-based diet and then you combine exercise, you
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  Speaker 1: become like super person for health.
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  Speaker 2: Or we become how we're supposed to be. We're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be healthy, right? Our body was built to be healthy.
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  Speaker 2: And so all we're doing is bringing it back to health.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's kind of sad, right, that that's the superhero.
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  Speaker 2: The superhero is just being healthy, not being sick, not
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  Speaker 2: getting chronic diseases, not being in pain. being able to
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  Speaker 2: sleep and live life and enjoy life.
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  Speaker 1: Getting back to what the creator had in mind. What
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  Speaker 1: a concept! Oh my goodness, who does that? Oh my goodness. Well,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you know, our time is up for this program, so
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  Speaker 1: I want to save the next four most searched for
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  Speaker 1: videos on your website, nutritionfacts.org, for our next program, because
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: these are the issues that the people who come to
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  Speaker 1: the website looking for answers, this is what they're looking for.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll talk about those four when we are on
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  Speaker 1: the program next time. And I just want to invite you, listener,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: to that website, nutritionfacts.org. Again, Dr. Greger puts little short videos, two, three,
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  Speaker 1: four minutes up there on every subject. The site is
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  Speaker 1: now searchable. If you want to know about blueberries or Dr.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Greger's personal favorite, broccoli, if you put that in the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: search engine, everything that's been studied about and searched about
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and said about broccoli or blueberries is you will have
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  Speaker 1: it right there. This is not Dr. Greger's bottom line.
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  Speaker 1: This is science bottom line. And Dr. Greger, that makes
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  Speaker 1: you feel pretty good knowing that you have an entire
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  Speaker 1: scientific community behind what you say on that website.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, the website is the scientific community, right?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just kind of translate from that kind of medical ease,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of medical speak, the technical speak. I'm just
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: translating the science over exactly what you said. It's not
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: my opinion. I'm just, you know, here's the science, this
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  Speaker 2: is what it says, and if the science changes, I'll
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: be the first one to put it up on the
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: site and say, look, we thought this, but now we
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: think this. This is basically the balance of evidence we
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: have right now, and how else can we make good decisions?
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  Speaker 1: And I also appreciate on the comments section there, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: scientists will tune in, will chime in, and they'll give
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: an update or they'll give a support of what Dr.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Greger is saying. So it is really a dynamic process. nutritionfacts.org.
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  Speaker 1: I invite you to go there, listener. Dr. Greger, we'll
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: have you back next time, and we'll talk about these
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: last four, the top four searches on your website. So
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  Speaker 1: I look forward to talking to you then. Until next time,
• 23:39
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• 23:42
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