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- 0:05Speaker 1: All system's going clear your lift on What's Up? Ember one?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka totegn Tambo, back for another edition
- 0:41Speaker 1: of the Monday night Football Showdown Show Here on the Ship,
- 0:44Speaker 1: a Nation YouTube station in a round out Week nine
- 0:46Speaker 1: with the Cardinals at the Cowboys here as usual with
- 0:50Speaker 1: my guys title and Hoopster Hoopster bring you in first, man,
- 0:53Speaker 1: how's your week nine going so far as we get
- 0:55Speaker 1: into it. We had a Sunday ight football game last night,
- 0:57Speaker 1: big slate yesterday, A lot of things going down, but
- 1:00Speaker 1: another big week ahead, my friend, what's going on?
- 1:02Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's been a good week so far
- 1:05Speaker 2: in terms of the games yesterday, I mean, just some
- 1:07Speaker 2: wild outcomes. Obviously, the Packers losing to the Panthers and
- 1:12Speaker 2: the Lions getting smoked by the Vikings just kind of
- 1:17Speaker 2: goes to show you that they always use that term
- 1:19Speaker 2: like any given Sunday and man like last or yesterday,
- 1:23Speaker 2: it was really a true indicator of that. So some
- 1:26Speaker 2: wild outcomes, some big boy performances. As we kind of predicted.
- 1:30Speaker 2: That Bengals Bears game was absolutely insane. I watched the
- 1:33Speaker 2: end of that one. I mean that was absent. I
- 1:35Speaker 2: was just so so wild. I knew it would be
- 1:38Speaker 2: high scoring, but you know, I would never imagine it.
- 1:40Speaker 2: We'd kind of finish like that. So yeah, good so far,
- 1:44Speaker 2: and then a really good showdown game tonight with a
- 1:46Speaker 2: big total. And you know the one thing that just
- 1:49Speaker 2: on just a game note, not like a DFS note,
- 1:52Speaker 2: Like if you are the Arizona Cardinals, right and Kyler
- 1:56Speaker 2: Murray's your starting quarterback, like this should be the number
- 1:58Speaker 2: one indicator for teams when it's time to find a
- 2:01Speaker 2: new quarterback when your starting quarterback is out and the
- 2:05Speaker 2: spreads in the game very move maybe half a point
- 2:09Speaker 2: or like not at all. Like if that's the case,
- 2:11Speaker 2: if you are a team and your starting quarterbacks ruled
- 2:14Speaker 2: out and the line barely moves when the starting quarterback
- 2:17Speaker 2: gets ruled out, you should immediately be going to the NFL.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Draft and looking for a new quarterback. But like, these
- 2:22Speaker 3: teams are so stupid.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Like so so dumb, Like the Cardinals are going to
- 2:27Speaker 2: continue to roll with Kyler Murray as their quarterback and
- 2:30Speaker 2: they're literally drawing one hundred percent dead in making a
- 2:35Speaker 2: run throughout any sort of NFL season.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Crazy to me.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Yeah, title, I'll get your thoughts. I mean, this is
- 2:42Speaker 1: the set I was reading too, What what's the situation tonight?
- 2:45Speaker 1: Is Kyler going to be active?
- 2:46Speaker 4: But just I think so.
- 2:48Speaker 5: I literally think he's I think he's got ben so
- 2:50Speaker 5: I think they like, I think they'll probably bring him
- 2:52Speaker 5: back next week and stuff, but I think he's truly
- 2:54Speaker 5: healthy enough. Where played that bad? Uh, and like Kyler
- 2:59Speaker 5: did any thing prior. I think he starts this game.
- 3:01Speaker 1: I think it was like, yeah, they were calling it
- 3:03Speaker 1: like a soft benching or something. It's like they're gonna
- 3:06Speaker 1: pretend like he's still injured, but he's good enough to
- 3:08Speaker 1: go if they had to. And so he's supposedly going
- 3:11Speaker 1: to be active and ready. So I don't know, we'll see,
- 3:13Speaker 1: but it's Brissett starting for sure. I'll let you take
- 3:15Speaker 1: it from there.
- 3:16Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, as he should.
- 3:17Speaker 5: He almost he went down and he was a play
- 3:19Speaker 5: away from beating the Colts his first start as a
- 3:21Speaker 5: big underdog, and then he was a choke away like
- 3:24Speaker 5: the Cardinals are used to doing against the Packers, Like
- 3:27Speaker 5: they could have just been two very solid teams on
- 3:29Speaker 5: the back of Jacoby Birsett, while the Cardinals could hardly
- 3:32Speaker 5: move the ball at all. With Kyler Murray, so I
- 3:34Speaker 5: couldn't agree more. I mean, hoop was way way I
- 3:36Speaker 5: had the curve on the Kyler Murray hates. I mean
- 3:39Speaker 5: he can't see over the offensive line, this and that.
- 3:41Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm actually excited to see it. Jacoby Bursette,
- 3:44Speaker 5: good game on tap three and a half favorites of
- 3:47Speaker 5: the Cowboys, but fifty three and a half total that
- 3:49Speaker 5: would have been the biggest over under. It is in
- 3:52Speaker 5: this week, so if it was on the mainslate, this
- 3:54Speaker 5: game would have definitely got some appeal.
- 3:56Speaker 4: Pretty good showdown slate as well.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Yeah, like Derek said, you read out there it says
- 4:01Speaker 1: it's possible he could play, you know, like situationally, or
- 4:04Speaker 1: could play in the week nine Monday Night Football, but
- 4:07Speaker 1: won't be starting the game. So least you know, another
- 4:10Speaker 1: variable to think about or deal with. But yeah, Brissett
- 4:13Speaker 1: starting more conversations as we get throughout. These two teams
- 4:15Speaker 1: are just laced with options of quote unquote options. There's
- 4:19Speaker 1: obviously the studs that we'll talk about, but man, it's
- 4:21Speaker 1: it's pretty tricky when you get to these pass catchers
- 4:23Speaker 1: for both sides and it's like you're listing three tight
- 4:25Speaker 1: ends deep both sides. You've got three wide receiver potential
- 4:29Speaker 1: fours and and oh so and so got phased out.
- 4:31Speaker 1: This happens every all kinds of times. Oh they got
- 4:33Speaker 1: phased out, but then all of a sudden they're phased
- 4:35Speaker 1: back in or whatever. It looks like it's really hard
- 4:37Speaker 1: to tell. And then with the Cowboys there's a bunch
- 4:39Speaker 1: of stuff Hoop where it comes down to the blowout
- 4:42Speaker 1: stuff as well, Like these games just go back and
- 4:44Speaker 1: forth and they oh, well, so and so got to play.
- 4:45Speaker 1: It's like, well he did. He only play because the
- 4:48Speaker 1: game got out of hand. And that's kind of what
- 4:49Speaker 1: we're looking at. So what's your sort of thoughts on
- 4:52Speaker 1: how this game is going to go our grand scheme
- 4:53Speaker 1: overview as we like to call it here, Hoop, what
- 4:55Speaker 1: do you think in this game plays out? Like?
- 4:58Speaker 2: It should be fun definitely for best and fantasy purposes.
- 5:01Speaker 2: I mean, fifty four total, like big, huge total. Cowboys
- 5:06Speaker 2: have a very very competent offense and their defense is
- 5:09Speaker 2: like worst in the league. So like, if they go
- 5:12Speaker 2: out there and score a bunch of points early, like
- 5:15Speaker 2: you can probably count on the fact that the Cardinals
- 5:17Speaker 2: are going to be able to claw back and score
- 5:20Speaker 2: some real life points as well, which will obviously result
- 5:22Speaker 2: in some fantasy points. So it's like a perfect game.
- 5:26Speaker 2: I mean, big team totals almost twenty nine for the Cowboys,
- 5:31Speaker 2: twenty six for the Cardinals. We have options all over
- 5:35Speaker 2: the place on both sides, and it should be a
- 5:38Speaker 2: fun one for dfs, like for sure, so I'm looking
- 5:42Speaker 2: forward to it. Like the Cowboys on main slates are
- 5:45Speaker 2: just a target every single week, Like you want to
- 5:47Speaker 2: play probably some Cowboys and you want to play the
- 5:49Speaker 2: team going against them because they're just terrible defensively, and
- 5:53Speaker 2: it's ideal for fantasy purposes. So I think, you know,
- 5:58Speaker 2: it probably does hold true. Get a highest scoring game
- 6:01Speaker 2: and a lot of options fantasy wise on both sides.
- 6:05Speaker 3: You know, we obviously go.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Into the captain conversation, but it's probably tough to narrow
- 6:09Speaker 2: it down a captain. There's a lot of different guys
- 6:13Speaker 2: that at the end of the night you could see
- 6:15Speaker 2: in that optimal captain spot that I wouldn't be surprised by,
- 6:19Speaker 2: so pretty wide open slate, I would say.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's gonna be the conversation when we
- 6:24Speaker 1: get to the captains here in a little bit as
- 6:25Speaker 1: well or MVPs when we get to them on FanDuel
- 6:27Speaker 1: the same title. Do you get anything else to add?
- 6:29Speaker 1: I mean, this late definitely sets up for again. We
- 6:31Speaker 1: saw another last night two way chop up top for
- 6:34Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five k. This late certainly sets
- 6:37Speaker 1: up for opportunity for a three hundred thousand unique shipper.
- 6:41Speaker 1: There was a lot of unique lineups up top last
- 6:43Speaker 1: night or close really short short splits like small splits.
- 6:47Speaker 1: I mean would have been ended up being a two
- 6:49Speaker 1: way chop. But we've seen a ton this season on
- 6:51Speaker 1: both sites DraftKings and FanDuel. I feel like this could
- 6:54Speaker 1: be another slate very easily where we end up that way.
- 6:56Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I agree, I mean shout out Aussimo and
- 7:00Speaker 5: else in for that. It was what a forty five
- 7:02Speaker 5: nine I believe, if I'm not mistaken, the salary used,
- 7:05Speaker 5: and that'll happen when you have a two hundred dollar
- 7:07Speaker 5: guy that scores thirteen points to Royo like the Cheepi's
- 7:10Speaker 5: got there and there was absolutely no movement on the
- 7:14Speaker 5: other side, I mean the commanders were lost, So yeah,
- 7:16Speaker 5: I could see it, like, I think it'll be pretty
- 7:19Speaker 5: spread like three threes and four two's on both sides
- 7:21Speaker 5: I think will be the common build. There's enough value
- 7:24Speaker 5: kind of on both sides of the ball where it's
- 7:28Speaker 5: not going to just be a very condensed build, which
- 7:30Speaker 5: I like. Captain's up top obviously CD there's pickings trade
- 7:34Speaker 5: McBride quarterbacks, but there's enough where like we're showing the
- 7:38Speaker 5: highest run one right now at CD at sixteen point
- 7:40Speaker 5: seven two percent, that's really good. We see some of
- 7:43Speaker 5: these slates it's like twenty plus for one or two
- 7:45Speaker 5: of these guys. So yeah, pretty spread out captain, a
- 7:48Speaker 5: lot of options on both sides. I think both sides
- 7:51Speaker 5: can move the football. I'm excited for this one.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also too, like you know, depending on
- 7:56Speaker 1: how this ownership goes, like right now what we see.
- 7:58Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of movement on classic slates particularly,
- 8:01Speaker 1: we've seen a bunch but on the showdown slates, even
- 8:03Speaker 1: in the Captain I think it was the Baltimore Miami
- 8:06Speaker 1: game last week and Hoop, I'll come to you in
- 8:08Speaker 1: a second to go through your captain options here just
- 8:09Speaker 1: how you're thinking about it. But I think it was
- 8:11Speaker 1: Henry looked like he was going to be much lower
- 8:14Speaker 1: when we were running the show at this point, and
- 8:16Speaker 1: then as the night went on, more and more people
- 8:17Speaker 1: started hopping on the Henry train and we saw him
- 8:19Speaker 1: screwed up like four or five percent at the captain alone.
- 8:22Speaker 1: So we'll see how it shakes out on this LT.
- 8:25Speaker 1: I'm interested to see once we talk it all through,
- 8:27Speaker 1: what we end up thinking at the end of it.
- 8:28Speaker 1: But who, I'll let you start off with your captain
- 8:30Speaker 1: conversation and typically that involves a lot of the quarterback
- 8:33Speaker 1: talk as well, which we end up starting with when
- 8:35Speaker 1: we go position by position. So let you start it
- 8:37Speaker 1: up from there, and then we'll hop into the other
- 8:39Speaker 1: side with title.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I will start, you know, kind of
- 8:43Speaker 2: talking through both these quarterbacks, and I think they're both
- 8:45Speaker 2: viable in the captain spot, and specifically you know Brissett.
- 8:48Speaker 2: I mean, people are gonna like Dak obviously just because
- 8:51Speaker 2: he can spread it around, he can have the big performances.
- 8:54Speaker 3: We've seen it a.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Ton, but Brissette is a name that people might not
- 8:58Speaker 2: love up top. I mean it is showing that he's
- 9:00Speaker 2: to get a decent bit ownership. But man, like, ideally,
- 9:03Speaker 2: if you're playing Jacobi, captain teams like you want them
- 9:07Speaker 2: playing from behind and he just kind of slings the football,
- 9:10Speaker 2: and I think that's very possible tonight. Like I said
- 9:13Speaker 2: in the opening, like Dallas can score some points, get
- 9:15Speaker 2: a lead, and I can almost guarantee you the Cardinals
- 9:18Speaker 2: will come back and score some points. Like their defense
- 9:21Speaker 2: just can't stop anyone. So I think Brissett is very
- 9:25Speaker 2: interesting up top. We're showing twelve percent, and that could
- 9:28Speaker 2: be the case. Like the thing is, it's got definitely
- 9:31Speaker 2: gonna get spread out up here, so easy to get
- 9:34Speaker 2: overweight on whatever you want, Like Dak is definitely fine,
- 9:37Speaker 2: but Brissette stands out to me. I think it is
- 9:39Speaker 2: what probably will end up being one of my main
- 9:42Speaker 2: guys in the captain in a lot of different ways
- 9:44Speaker 2: to play him. Then you have the high volume pass
- 9:47Speaker 2: catchers on the Dallas side, CD Lamb and Trede McBride.
- 9:51Speaker 2: I think both very viable in the captain spot. Like
- 9:54Speaker 2: CD Head. The injury hasn't really had the big explosion game.
- 9:58Speaker 2: I mean, it could just easily come at any point.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Cardinals defense is not great. I think he could go off.
- 10:04Speaker 2: I think he's a fine option. We're showing thirteen percent.
- 10:08Speaker 2: You know, probably probably in that range for sure today
- 10:12Speaker 2: and then you know after, like the quarterbacks, after those
- 10:15Speaker 2: two main pass catchers, probably get a little bit of
- 10:18Speaker 2: a drop off. I think Javonte Williams, George Pickens, Marvin Harrison,
- 10:24Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson, Knight, I think are all in that like
- 10:28Speaker 2: next tier of guys we're showing. I guess Javonte Williams
- 10:31Speaker 2: kind of being up there, closer to those main four
- 10:33Speaker 2: that I talked about before, But either way, like I
- 10:37Speaker 2: think he's probably fifth, like after all those guys I mentioned,
- 10:41Speaker 2: Pickens probably gets squeezed a little bit more. I mean,
- 10:44Speaker 2: if people are taking a pass catcher for Dallas, it's
- 10:46Speaker 2: going to be CD. Marvin Harrison has not had any
- 10:49Speaker 2: big games this season. I mean, the connection is clearly
- 10:52Speaker 2: just much better with Trey McBride for both the quarterbacks,
- 10:55Speaker 2: for Kyler and Brissett, Harrison. You know, I don't know
- 10:59Speaker 2: what I'll do there, but Jake Ferguson I'll continue to play.
- 11:03Speaker 2: I know, obviously not as appealing with Cede Lamb back
- 11:06Speaker 2: in there when CD was out. I mean, our guy
- 11:08Speaker 2: Ferguson was just absolutely smashing just about every single game.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Did nothing last game. But I think he could totally
- 11:16Speaker 2: bounce back, and I'm fine with him. And then Knight's
- 11:19Speaker 2: the other guy. It's a really cheap price, Like he's
- 11:21Speaker 2: almost like a cheap captain. He's seven k in the
- 11:26Speaker 2: flex spot, he's ten to five up top.
- 11:29Speaker 3: Yeah I could. I could definitely play him.
- 11:31Speaker 2: I mean, this is a slate where a lot of
- 11:33Speaker 2: guys could go off and you're just gonna have to
- 11:34Speaker 2: get the right combination, the right guys, the right dude
- 11:37Speaker 2: up top to make it all work. And Night could
- 11:40Speaker 2: be that guy. So I'll be playing a lot of
- 11:42Speaker 2: these guys, and I'm gonna be focusing more on correlation
- 11:46Speaker 2: and and other things. I'll take some big stands and
- 11:48Speaker 2: you guys by nowhere that'll be in the not big
- 11:50Speaker 2: stands because they're not gonna be super popular, but in
- 11:54Speaker 2: the defense and stuff like that. I'll avoid that. Maybe
- 11:57Speaker 2: some of these backup running backs, but in the cap
- 12:00Speaker 2: and it's gonna be hard to narrow it down. I
- 12:02Speaker 2: do like narrowing it down. I just don't think i'll
- 12:05Speaker 2: be able to today. So I'll be playing a good
- 12:08Speaker 2: chunk of those guys I just mentioned.
- 12:10Speaker 1: Yeah, the running back room is crazy. I'll let title
- 12:12Speaker 1: take the captains at a second and then we'll get there.
- 12:14Speaker 1: But it's the same thing even there, like it's gonna
- 12:16Speaker 1: be Bam Knight starting. They say like he'll get first
- 12:19Speaker 1: crack at it. I mean it's not really starting kind
- 12:20Speaker 1: of is, but just to say that he'll get the
- 12:22Speaker 1: first shot at it. But they'll be mixing it up
- 12:23Speaker 1: I think tonight as well, so it could end up
- 12:25Speaker 1: being Carter. We could see de Mercado later on. Like
- 12:28Speaker 1: you just never know how they're gonna go about it.
- 12:30Speaker 1: To my man Joe, he asked it. You know, if
- 12:31Speaker 1: you're ship a nation member, there is tutorials. So there's
- 12:35Speaker 1: sabersim with their old, the normal, the new one upgraded
- 12:38Speaker 1: than the classic mode. There's full tutorials on the site
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- 12:45Speaker 1: if you go to Saber Series. This is the premium
- 12:47Speaker 1: series for members only, but this is all applicable for NFL.
- 12:51Speaker 1: And they did do Rio and Sheets did a showdown walkthrough,
- 12:55Speaker 1: Rio and Aids did a late swap. You can see
- 12:57Speaker 1: by week. It's all evergreen, even though it's applied to
- 13:00Speaker 1: the week. You can go back and learn what their
- 13:02Speaker 1: process is and how they're going about it using Sabersim.
- 13:04Speaker 1: We've got it for MLB, We've got some for golf.
- 13:07Speaker 1: We'll have a bunch more coming as we grow the
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- 13:11Speaker 1: Ship nineteen, you can just go to the site. You
- 13:13Speaker 1: get five days for nineteen dollars to check it out. Title.
- 13:16Speaker 1: I'll kick it over to you. We'll go back and
- 13:18Speaker 1: just to talk about these captains. What your thoughts are.
- 13:21Speaker 1: Hoop sort of broke his stuff down. Anything you want
- 13:23Speaker 1: to add to that or anything you see differently.
- 13:25Speaker 5: No, really, I have no strong take here, like I ideally,
- 13:29Speaker 5: I probably.
- 13:29Speaker 4: Won't even be over twenty percent at any place.
- 13:31Speaker 5: We talk about on the show, Like I, if I'm
- 13:34Speaker 5: with the field on every person, I'm trusting myself. I
- 13:36Speaker 5: can build better lineups than the field, and that's totally
- 13:39Speaker 5: fine with me being spread out in showdown and try
- 13:42Speaker 5: when I win, how much.
- 13:43Speaker 4: Do you win?
- 13:43Speaker 5: Like we've seen recently, so I don't plan on having
- 13:47Speaker 5: some big take. I do like both starting running backs
- 13:50Speaker 5: Davonte and Zon and the night a lot of the
- 13:52Speaker 5: reason with liking both running backs too, if it is
- 13:55Speaker 5: one of them up top the game can just go
- 13:57Speaker 5: completely different. Maybe it's slowed down completely the undersmashes. If
- 14:01Speaker 5: Davonte gets there, maybe CD hardly does anything, or Pickens
- 14:04Speaker 5: or Dak like a lot of chalk and bust if
- 14:07Speaker 5: it is a running back day. So just for that
- 14:09Speaker 5: reason alone, I mean Javonte's the clear guy there. Jayden
- 14:12Speaker 5: Blue will get some of the flex, will talk about.
- 14:14Speaker 4: It's not of an Knight. It's not.
- 14:16Speaker 5: It's a little more murky there because de Mercado's back.
- 14:19Speaker 5: But he had that awful fumble against whatever that week
- 14:23Speaker 5: was that ruined everyone in Survivor five or whatever.
- 14:26Speaker 4: Michael Carter has looked absolutely awful. Zdom A.
- 14:29Speaker 5: Knight looks like the clear bass guy and the goal
- 14:31Speaker 5: line guy. So if someone falls in twice, I think
- 14:33Speaker 5: it's him and we're showing like five percent that captain.
- 14:36Speaker 5: So I definitely like both running backs up top, CD,
- 14:40Speaker 5: Pickens Dak like that's an easy click up top. We
- 14:44Speaker 5: saw Darnold get there, but he has enough options to
- 14:46Speaker 5: spread it around. Like we always talk about Bersett, I
- 14:49Speaker 5: still think he does, and you get a little price discount.
- 14:52Speaker 5: I'm gonna let you talk about him though, again I
- 14:54Speaker 5: kind of rely on you with the quarterback stuff, but
- 14:57Speaker 5: it feels like he has enough options that he can
- 14:59Speaker 5: throw one to three different guys and get their Trey McBride,
- 15:03Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe I'll play some Marv because he's
- 15:05Speaker 5: six percent. Do I love it? No, but I'll probably
- 15:08Speaker 5: cap it after that. Like Ferguson's the one that I
- 15:10Speaker 5: do not like. That takes the biggest hitch of seeing
- 15:12Speaker 5: the props forty two and a half receiving prop. Like
- 15:15Speaker 5: Whop mentioned, with CD back, he can definitely get there.
- 15:18Speaker 5: I feel like he probably he definitely needs one touchdown,
- 15:21Speaker 5: maybe two, but the target share and stuff just goes
- 15:24Speaker 5: down a little bit and the price is still up there.
- 15:27Speaker 5: So yeah, it's both running backs. I think both quarterbacks
- 15:30Speaker 5: are good pickens. CD Trey McBride. Again, it's hard for
- 15:34Speaker 5: me to really narrow it down too much after that.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Yeah, Obviously, when we talk about quarterbacks on this show,
- 15:39Speaker 1: it's usually about, you know, how can they actually spread
- 15:41Speaker 1: it around. I don't think there's any secret that tonight
- 15:43Speaker 1: these quarterbacks can spread it around. It's just do you
- 15:46Speaker 1: get that right? How much do you commit to it?
- 15:47Speaker 1: So I think it depends on how many lineups you're
- 15:49Speaker 1: playing and then what your portfolio is. I'm playing one
- 15:51Speaker 1: hundred and fifty, so I'll definitely be spreading it out.
- 15:54Speaker 1: I like these guys thoughts tonight where their head's at.
- 15:56Speaker 1: It's not like I think a lot of times people
- 15:57Speaker 1: think when you say, like, oh, I'm gonna cap at
- 15:59Speaker 1: like twenty or three thirty percent in the captains, like
- 16:01Speaker 1: all these guys are just gonna play everyone. That's what
- 16:03Speaker 1: they do. I'll have all the lines. It's it just
- 16:05Speaker 1: makes sense like you're gonna have leverage on all if
- 16:07Speaker 1: everyone gets a number of say seventeen percent at the
- 16:10Speaker 1: highest owned captain, let's just say that, and you've got
- 16:13Speaker 1: a couple at twenty and then some at twelves and
- 16:16Speaker 1: whatever down from there, you can actually have leverage on
- 16:18Speaker 1: every single quarterback. And if then you're building good lineups
- 16:21Speaker 1: using the tools and sabersim and putting it all together,
- 16:24Speaker 1: even if you're the best handbuilding in the world, I
- 16:26Speaker 1: don't care. I'm just saying, if you're building a good lineup,
- 16:28Speaker 1: now you're not only leveraged with having more than the
- 16:31Speaker 1: field has. You've got really good lineups. And remember, of
- 16:34Speaker 1: the twenty percent, let's say someone gets to eighteen percent
- 16:38Speaker 1: for the DAK lineups. Let's say or CD lamb up
- 16:40Speaker 1: top that eighteen percent. There's gonna be bad lineups within
- 16:44Speaker 1: those eighteen percent, so it really takes that number down
- 16:46Speaker 1: even further and you're even further over leveraged on that
- 16:49Speaker 1: stuff where you feel good or have more leverage on
- 16:51Speaker 1: that spot. So just keep that in mind. I think
- 16:53Speaker 1: that's important. If you have a portfolio, if you only
- 16:55Speaker 1: play twenty lineups, I think you should slim it down
- 16:57Speaker 1: and try and make some picks and hopefully we can
- 16:59Speaker 1: have some thoughts around that and then put your your
- 17:01Speaker 1: process towards it. But for me, I think it's more
- 17:04Speaker 1: interesting tonight with like trying to get instead of trying
- 17:07Speaker 1: to pick all these randoms. I kind of like, you know, McBride, Ferguson, Marv,
- 17:13Speaker 1: some of those guys where the obviously are going to
- 17:15Speaker 1: be CD and UH, DAK and whatever. I just think
- 17:19Speaker 1: if the game goes a little bit different than what's expected.
- 17:21Speaker 1: This is a huge total too, by the way, but
- 17:23Speaker 1: I think it's come down a little bit from I
- 17:25Speaker 1: think it was closer to fifty four and a half
- 17:27Speaker 1: or fifty five, and I don't know what you're seeing
- 17:28Speaker 1: right now titled you have it there.
- 17:31Speaker 4: Fifty three and a half, I believe it was.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Yeah, it's totally slightly it's obviously no three whatsoever. But yeah,
- 17:37Speaker 1: it's coming down a little bit. So I don't know,
- 17:38Speaker 1: we'll see how it actually goes. But I think both
- 17:40Speaker 1: sides could run the ball. Uh, it's not like the
- 17:43Speaker 1: you know, the matchups just as bad. The Cowboys are
- 17:45Speaker 1: bad at everything right now, so you could see it
- 17:47Speaker 1: be anyway with the Cardinals. But we see that stuff
- 17:49Speaker 1: flip so often. Just look at all the games yesterday,
- 17:52Speaker 1: Like you said, who's got Carolina beating Green Bay and
- 17:55Speaker 1: doing it in the way they did? Who's got Indie
- 17:57Speaker 1: not showing up at all? And I've been putting points
- 17:59Speaker 1: on points points and now nothing, So game scripts and
- 18:02Speaker 1: things like that can flip so much. So for me,
- 18:04Speaker 1: I think both quarterbacks are in play. I think Lamb
- 18:08Speaker 1: is the obvious big boy up top there, but I
- 18:10Speaker 1: think some of the guys like McBride, Harrison, Jake Ferguson,
- 18:15Speaker 1: and then like from a cheaper perspective, probably probably zay
- 18:20Speaker 1: Zay Jones is someone I got interested. We'll talk more
- 18:23Speaker 1: later on that, and then I guess it's the running
- 18:26Speaker 1: backs on the Cardinals side, but there's like no ownership
- 18:30Speaker 1: to either. I do worry like the like Knave's was
- 18:32Speaker 1: talking in the chat and I know you've got it
- 18:33Speaker 1: their title, but saying the props on night. But there's
- 18:36Speaker 1: also to me like when they don't list the props
- 18:38Speaker 1: on the others. That's also not just because it's not
- 18:41Speaker 1: because there shouldn't be props. It's like they don't know
- 18:43Speaker 1: and they're not testing. They're not gonna find out. They
- 18:45Speaker 1: don't want to find out what it's gonna be. They'll
- 18:47Speaker 1: let you decide on night and he's getting the first
- 18:50Speaker 1: crack at it, and they'll say, you go ahead, We'll
- 18:52Speaker 1: just leave the other stuff off the board. It's why
- 18:54Speaker 1: the books always have the angle on you, like they
- 18:56Speaker 1: get to cover that and we're not gonna try and
- 18:58Speaker 1: figure this out. We're not even gonna let you figure
- 19:00Speaker 1: it out for us. We're just going to run one
- 19:02Speaker 1: prop out there. So I don't know title or hoop.
- 19:04Speaker 1: I'll go to you, hoop, do you have anything else
- 19:05Speaker 1: you want to add? But I'm just trying to, you know,
- 19:07Speaker 1: sort of run through what I'm thinking up top early.
- 19:10Speaker 2: I mean Yeah, the one main takeaway is it's it's
- 19:12Speaker 2: pretty wide open. And you know, we talked through a
- 19:15Speaker 2: lot of different guys. I mean, you threw in some
- 19:17Speaker 2: other names and I really wasn't even considering in Day Jones.
- 19:21Speaker 2: But the main takeaway is going to be that it
- 19:23Speaker 2: just it has to get spread out, and a lot
- 19:25Speaker 2: of those guys up top are equally appealing. The quarterbacks
- 19:29Speaker 2: CD Lamb, Trede McBride, Javonte Williams are all very appealing,
- 19:34Speaker 2: and there's only so much ownership to go around. It's
- 19:37Speaker 2: not like all those guys can be twenty percent owned.
- 19:40Speaker 2: I guess that's technically possible if they're all exactly twenty
- 19:43Speaker 2: percent owned, that it would work out like that, But
- 19:46Speaker 2: we know other guys are gonna get mixed in. There's
- 19:48Speaker 2: just no way anyone can get substantial ownership. So if
- 19:51Speaker 2: you are somebody that likes making stands, it's going to
- 19:54Speaker 2: be easy to make the stands tonight because it's not
- 19:56Speaker 2: going to take much to get way overweight on the
- 19:59Speaker 2: path that you want to go. But yeah, I mean
- 20:03Speaker 2: it just I guess, Yeah, the one takeaway is it's
- 20:06Speaker 2: going to be very, very spread out. Two different ways
- 20:10Speaker 2: you can go about it depending on how many teams
- 20:12Speaker 2: you build. Don't spread it out, go consolidated, condense it
- 20:18Speaker 2: down a little bit, or spread it out and go
- 20:21Speaker 2: to the path that title kind of talked about where
- 20:23Speaker 2: it's like I'm spreading it out and I'm banking on
- 20:25Speaker 2: the fact that I can build my teams better than you,
- 20:28Speaker 2: better than the field can build build the team so
- 20:32Speaker 2: good either way.
- 20:33Speaker 3: Really today, to be honest with you.
- 20:35Speaker 1: Yeah, Title, I'll kick it to you for just any
- 20:36Speaker 1: further thoughts if not been going to sort of these
- 20:38Speaker 1: quarterbacks into running backs, so we hit the quarterbacks with
- 20:40Speaker 1: the captain stuff mostly and spend more time on it usually,
- 20:43Speaker 1: but just noting. I guess the other angle, like the
- 20:45Speaker 1: Zay thing, is just what I want to really clarify.
- 20:47Speaker 1: It's not just say it's whoever you decide. You guys
- 20:49Speaker 1: out there can pick who you want to be your
- 20:51Speaker 1: sort of cheaper option up top. But what I'm saying
- 20:55Speaker 1: is is, like we know tonight is going to be
- 20:57Speaker 1: heavily built towards five really good guy and who's the
- 21:01Speaker 1: cheapye that I can make it fit. People will have
- 21:03Speaker 1: different guys, whether it's their turpin play or their floor,
- 21:06Speaker 1: NOI or their dors's gonna someone' the dorts is gonna torch.
- 21:09Speaker 1: You know, if they got whatever they're gonna put in there,
- 21:12Speaker 1: that's great. But we know a lot of limps are
- 21:14Speaker 1: gonna look like that. If you put a Michael Wilson
- 21:17Speaker 1: or a Zay Jones, or whoever it is, if it's
- 21:19Speaker 1: Michael Carter, whatever you feel good about up top, if
- 21:22Speaker 1: you make that happen, you will be able to get
- 21:24Speaker 1: five really good guys. But I don't think enough are
- 21:27Speaker 1: even going close to this. Like right now, I see
- 21:29Speaker 1: z less than a percent at Captain. So while that
- 21:33Speaker 1: less than a percent will fit the ex don't just
- 21:35Speaker 1: go jam the exact five studs that fit perfectly. Have
- 21:38Speaker 1: some thought. But if you have that happening and it's
- 21:41Speaker 1: able to fit something that can't look at last night,
- 21:42Speaker 1: it was a two hundred dollars guy was still needed
- 21:45Speaker 1: up top with money on the table, was still sorry,
- 21:46Speaker 1: k needed in the lineup with leaving a bunch of
- 21:49Speaker 1: money on the table. So again, so many people. That's
- 21:51Speaker 1: the reverse of what I just explained. When you put
- 21:53Speaker 1: a two hundred dollars guy, everyone maxes it out and
- 21:56Speaker 1: fills it up in the flex. When you go a
- 21:58Speaker 1: cheap captain, everyone and maxes out the flex go a
- 22:01Speaker 1: cheap captain and then run it down. Same in the
- 22:04Speaker 1: other flip side of it, if you put a two
- 22:05Speaker 1: hundred dollar guy in your flex, you don't eat a
- 22:07Speaker 1: max out and go to the very best captain. You
- 22:09Speaker 1: just need the captain that does the best and then
- 22:11Speaker 1: the lineup to make sense. That on FanDuel title has
- 22:14Speaker 1: been like the nuts all year since they change this format.
- 22:17Speaker 1: And I know it works on draftings too, but on
- 22:18Speaker 1: FanDuel's format this year, if you look, you're like, how
- 22:21Speaker 1: the hell is this lineup that It's like perfectly correlated.
- 22:24Speaker 1: It makes a ton of sense. How is this a
- 22:26Speaker 1: unique Let me look the math. Oh yeah, they left
- 22:29Speaker 1: like four grand on the table. It's all it is.
- 22:31Speaker 1: They're finding a lineup that makes a ton of sense.
- 22:33Speaker 1: Is correlated, the optimizer could be fine. I'm just saying, like,
- 22:35Speaker 1: that's the whole point when you see that stuff. So
- 22:37Speaker 1: I don't have any further thoughts on that. Just more
- 22:39Speaker 1: of the balanced builds, or the builds that leave the
- 22:41Speaker 1: money on the table while still using the scrubs if
- 22:44Speaker 1: you will, or the cheaper captains.
- 22:46Speaker 5: Yeah, just have your lineup makes sense even if you're MMM,
- 22:48Speaker 5: sometimes I have a fault at this, like you should
- 22:51Speaker 5: still kind of be going through your lineups or like
- 22:53Speaker 5: Sabersum makes it easy. How many five ones are you building?
- 22:55Speaker 5: How many five on each team are you building? Like
- 22:58Speaker 5: you can click through that stuff magnifying glass, and they do.
- 23:02Speaker 5: He's a good job and you can just look at it,
- 23:04Speaker 5: see the projection, the ownership, all of that one thought
- 23:07Speaker 5: I had when Ned's brought up. This are pretty solid.
- 23:10Speaker 5: It's almost the opposite for Javonte Williams, and I could
- 23:13Speaker 5: see that ten percent moonwalking back in the captain maybe
- 23:16Speaker 5: to like a seven because Dak's only four hundred more.
- 23:20Speaker 5: CD's eight hundred more. McBride's one k less, And I
- 23:24Speaker 5: mean the props really aren't great, Like so Bam Night's
- 23:26Speaker 5: fifty one and a half rushing, he's sixty six and
- 23:29Speaker 5: a half receiving, he's thirteen and a half nights nine
- 23:32Speaker 5: and a half, and you're talking about three K savings.
- 23:34Speaker 5: So I think we see a bigger gap up top,
- 23:37Speaker 5: Like if someone does get steam, it's probably CD just
- 23:39Speaker 5: for the value we have if he's seven to six percent.
- 23:43Speaker 5: I guess that even makes him more appealing for getting
- 23:45Speaker 5: leverage off of stuff.
- 23:46Speaker 4: So that's something that stood out. Thanks in Nate's comments,
- 23:48Speaker 4: good call it.
- 23:49Speaker 1: I do the stone. I'll let who get sorry who?
- 23:51Speaker 1: I was gonna say, quick, if you got the stone,
- 23:53Speaker 1: that'll that'll show you some leverage real quick when you
- 23:55Speaker 1: fix the if you change the ownership to that, and
- 23:57Speaker 1: you're good to go on that spot as well, go ahead.
- 23:59Speaker 3: Who.
- 24:00Speaker 2: I agree with the Javante thing because you know, I
- 24:02Speaker 2: was kind of talking through it and not even you know,
- 24:04Speaker 2: really looking at the ownership numbers untill after I made
- 24:07Speaker 2: the comment about Javonte, because I just think he is
- 24:09Speaker 2: going to be closer to that second tier guys opposed
- 24:12Speaker 2: to the top tier in terms of ownership, and I'm
- 24:15Speaker 2: gonna kind of stand by that. I just don't think
- 24:17Speaker 2: he's gonna get up there. I think he has to
- 24:19Speaker 2: come down. I wouldn't be surprised if Gavante up top
- 24:22Speaker 2: is like seven or eight. Maybe the ones that are
- 24:26Speaker 2: gonna be the highest on I think are just it's
- 24:28Speaker 2: gonna be ce d Lamb and it's gonna be McBride,
- 24:30Speaker 2: Like I think they're gonna get up there maybe a
- 24:32Speaker 2: little bit closer to that twenty. Then the quarterbacks than Javante,
- 24:37Speaker 2: then that next group of Pickens, Harrison and Ferguson.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. I'll let you
- 24:44Speaker 1: stay on this. Who we talked through I think a
- 24:46Speaker 1: bunch of these quarterbacks already. Do you want to add
- 24:49Speaker 1: anything there? If not, you know, instead of all of
- 24:52Speaker 1: us talking about the same thing, it's Dak Brissette. We
- 24:54Speaker 1: kind of gave that whole conversation. You can add there
- 24:56Speaker 1: if we got it. If not, go to running back.
- 24:58Speaker 2: Yeah, running back, you know, Gavante Williams definitely clear play.
- 25:01Speaker 2: I mean the price is up there, I mean ten K.
- 25:04Speaker 2: But he's he's been good. He's been very good, and
- 25:06Speaker 2: it's a big total, and he has multiple touchdown upside,
- 25:10Speaker 2: he has past catching upside. I think he's a totally
- 25:13Speaker 2: fine option. I'll stick on the Dallas stuff. Jaden Blues
- 25:18Speaker 2: got like a real role seven carries, eight carries, like
- 25:21Speaker 2: ever since I don't know, he was like inactive. I
- 25:23Speaker 2: don't know if he's injured or what it was. I
- 25:25Speaker 2: don't even think Kyles Sanders, Yeah, so he's been you
- 25:31Speaker 2: know active since you know, he has a role since
- 25:35Speaker 2: being active fourteen hundred.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Blue. Can I interject for two seconds?
- 25:42Speaker 1: He got interesting news actually because in the chat and
- 25:45Speaker 1: then I double checked because I was waiting on this
- 25:47Speaker 1: this morning, Malik Davis. So Blue had that fumble or whatever,
- 25:51Speaker 1: and the coach has been on his ass a little
- 25:52Speaker 1: bit about this, like whatever came up from that. So
- 25:55Speaker 1: I was monitoring this early this morning, and now we
- 25:57Speaker 1: just got the news ten minutes ago. Is so Dave
- 26:00Speaker 1: was eligible to be it was Elder would be elevated
- 26:04Speaker 1: from the Cowboys practice squad one more time, but Dallas
- 26:07Speaker 1: instead decided to just make him a permanent member of
- 26:10Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster and just signed him ahead
- 26:12Speaker 1: of this game tonight. So it was enough. He's still
- 26:16Speaker 1: slated to slotted to slated to slot in third, is
- 26:18Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. But again, if they don't
- 26:21Speaker 1: have that faith in Blue and we do end up
- 26:23Speaker 1: seeing him, he's really cheap.
- 26:24Speaker 2: So two yeah, yeah, I mean I'll definitely keep him
- 26:28Speaker 2: in the playpool at two hundo for sure. I mean,
- 26:31Speaker 2: this is definitely shaping up to where it could be
- 26:34Speaker 2: one of those slates where there's five guys you absolutely
- 26:36Speaker 2: have and then you just need the two hundred dollars
- 26:39Speaker 2: guy and whatever he does work, So I'll keep him
- 26:43Speaker 2: in there the Arizona stuff. I think he's definitely a
- 26:47Speaker 2: little more difficult. Like I talked about Night, he would
- 26:50Speaker 2: be a fringe captain play for me. There's just three
- 26:56Speaker 2: guys they're gonna use most likely, and if Night does
- 27:00Speaker 2: not perform well early on, it could be Night night
- 27:04Speaker 2: early for him in this game. And you got Carter
- 27:07Speaker 2: right there, you got de Mericado right there. So I'm
- 27:11Speaker 2: a little worried about the situation. I'm gonna play Night.
- 27:15Speaker 2: He does have a big projection, so he's going to
- 27:16Speaker 2: get into a lot of teams. I mean, everyone has
- 27:20Speaker 2: a pretty solid number. We're showing thirteen and a half.
- 27:23Speaker 2: Saber has right around twelve and at seven K that's
- 27:28Speaker 2: just going to show up in your teams quite a bit.
- 27:30Speaker 2: So I mean I will have some Night, but somewhat
- 27:34Speaker 2: somewhat concerning with those other guys right there and then
- 27:36Speaker 2: their prices. You got Carter at forty four hundred, let's
- 27:42Speaker 2: see we have him for eight point six like that,
- 27:46Speaker 2: that's a real project projection. Like if you go and
- 27:49Speaker 2: run teams, that's going to show up in there. Demercato
- 27:52Speaker 2: I think is a little more fringe. Probably won't have
- 27:54Speaker 2: much of him, but I'll have some night, I'll have
- 27:56Speaker 2: some Carter, but I don't necessarily.
- 27:59Speaker 3: Love of either. To be honest with you.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Title, what's your thoughts, I'll kick it over to you
- 28:04Speaker 1: on this one. But that again I got it's like
- 28:06Speaker 1: not Slate shaping news, but the idea of now two
- 28:09Speaker 1: hundred dollars option. The Blue conversation has been going since
- 28:12Speaker 1: last week, and then you know on both sites, even
- 28:14Speaker 1: on Bandu, I think Malik Davis is like sixteen hundred
- 28:17Speaker 1: or something as well.
- 28:18Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what it does for me is a
- 28:20Speaker 5: firm that. I mean, they're really really mad at Blues Fumble,
- 28:23Speaker 5: which was terrible, and that it's just going to be
- 28:25Speaker 5: more work for Javonte. So like I downgrade Blue from
- 28:28Speaker 5: that who was going to get ownership for cheap already?
- 28:30Speaker 5: I upgrade Javante and pretty much the same side like
- 28:33Speaker 5: for the other side, like they just don't really like
- 28:35Speaker 5: Michael Carter's on of the Knight's workload it's continue to
- 28:38Speaker 5: go up, and that de Mercato fumble is always going
- 28:41Speaker 5: to rain in the back of these guys' minds dropping
- 28:44Speaker 5: it before the end zone. So I'm I'm just gonna
- 28:46Speaker 5: hope that it's those two Javante and at Night for
- 28:51Speaker 5: the most part. Now, that's not saying I if I
- 28:53Speaker 5: picked another guy, I think it's Michael Carter because the
- 28:56Speaker 5: past catching ability, the props are actually like plus three
- 28:59Speaker 5: hundred was it the score? Yeah, Like, I mean that's
- 29:02Speaker 5: completely robbery. Plus three hundred a score, don't bet that.
- 29:04Speaker 5: But I think of a backup running back, he's the
- 29:07Speaker 5: most appealing to me. The thing with when we get
- 29:10Speaker 5: to like Malik Davis, there is actually just a lot
- 29:13Speaker 5: of value on this slate that will be on the field.
- 29:15Speaker 5: Latky's four hundred not great, but he'll be on the field.
- 29:18Speaker 5: Higgins one k blue, one four Schoonmaker, one six Turpin,
- 29:22Speaker 5: two k floor in a Dortch, So like, I think
- 29:26Speaker 5: he's fine, But I mean, you're zero is probably the
- 29:29Speaker 5: most likely outcome by a wide margin. So I like
- 29:31Speaker 5: the starting running backs.
- 29:33Speaker 1: I think the Michael Carter one is most interesting because
- 29:36Speaker 1: even though the projections and the like, everyone talking about
- 29:38Speaker 1: the props already know that that's the whole point I
- 29:40Speaker 1: was making. Really why I think it's somewhat interesting is
- 29:41Speaker 1: because of the setup there and the forty four hundred
- 29:44Speaker 1: dollars price tag versus the seven K. Talking mostly flex here,
- 29:47Speaker 1: but just noting that that's the point that would stand
- 29:50Speaker 1: out to me is if we don't know or if
- 29:52Speaker 1: it's even kind of close, or if first crack or
- 29:54Speaker 1: whatever they're calling it doesn't work out and they take
- 29:56Speaker 1: a second crack and it happens to do with Michael Carter,
- 29:59Speaker 1: that that could work out and be a good spot
- 30:01Speaker 1: for this slate. And again, you could even take your
- 30:03Speaker 1: best BAM night lineup and just drop it down to
- 30:06Speaker 1: Carter and say, maybe it works out differently tonight, and
- 30:08Speaker 1: that's how it goes. So I mean I look for
- 30:10Speaker 1: spots like that quite a bit. I think that's an
- 30:11Speaker 1: interesting one. And then also, man, just going back to
- 30:14Speaker 1: it now, like I really that's why I love when
- 30:17Speaker 1: title comes up and who flips the ideas around on
- 30:19Speaker 1: here we all talk through it because Javonte just it's
- 30:23Speaker 1: it's more of like less faith in blue, which I
- 30:26Speaker 1: think more people are like, well, that must mean more
- 30:28Speaker 1: faith in Malik Davis could just sit on special teams
- 30:31Speaker 1: all night and be like, welcome to the club. But
- 30:33Speaker 1: at least he's happy as hell. You got a full
- 30:35Speaker 1: time job now ready to roll, Like shit's good for him?
- 30:38Speaker 1: Could he get more? Does he want to play? Absolutely?
- 30:40Speaker 1: But they'll set the rules on all that stuff. I
- 30:42Speaker 1: think if if we're right, which I think we are
- 30:45Speaker 1: on the ownership stuff, that if Javonte comes back, man,
- 30:50Speaker 1: I just don't it's people just assume like, oh, it's
- 30:52Speaker 1: not the best matchup or whatever, like who cares about
- 30:54Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's the Cowboys versus the Cardinals. If
- 30:56Speaker 1: it's not Lamb, if it's not Ferguson, if it's not
- 30:59Speaker 1: Dak and those guys, and it is Javonte, it feels
- 31:01Speaker 1: like they've just got a lot more faith or they're
- 31:03Speaker 1: gonna put a lot more workload to him. And then
- 31:05Speaker 1: that would change something we don't mess around with often.
- 31:07Speaker 1: But if you changed his projection, some leaned it to
- 31:11Speaker 1: more workload, it would lean more projection. If you put
- 31:14Speaker 1: more projection, it would be more optimal. If it was
- 31:17Speaker 1: more optimal, then the ownership it might not line up.
- 31:19Speaker 1: And we've got the ownership moonwalking backwards. That that's like
- 31:22Speaker 1: the recipe for a better play, which you have to
- 31:25Speaker 1: put your whole process behind. It's not about just the
- 31:27Speaker 1: pick in the place, just noting Now, if you've got
- 31:30Speaker 1: that happening or working in your favor, what does that
- 31:33Speaker 1: mean for the rest of the lineup. Hopefully that helps
- 31:34Speaker 1: you guys if you're out there handbuilding or trying to
- 31:36Speaker 1: build lineup starting with Javonte. But it just makes for
- 31:38Speaker 1: some interesting thought process when you're going through it all.
- 31:41Speaker 1: So stay with you. Title, We'll go to the wide receivers. Now,
- 31:44Speaker 1: that'd be the only thing I had to really add there.
- 31:45Speaker 1: But wide receivers again, just as just as many in
- 31:48Speaker 1: either room to talk about here, and then we'll have
- 31:50Speaker 1: to wait for inactives to see who they actually decide
- 31:52Speaker 1: to all roll out and what they do on the rosters.
- 31:54Speaker 1: We'll see.
- 31:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 31:56Speaker 5: I like the Cowboys side definitely more than I like
- 31:58Speaker 5: the Cardinal stuff. I mean, we'll talk about tight end
- 32:01Speaker 5: with Trade McBride, like he is the wide receiver one
- 32:03Speaker 5: for this Cardinals team. But I mean, you have Cede Lamb,
- 32:06Speaker 5: you have Pickens, you have Turpin, and you have Florin.
- 32:09Speaker 4: NOI Tolbert.
- 32:10Speaker 5: Why I like the Cowboys situation a lot more is
- 32:12Speaker 5: Tolbert Snaps just went way down like he's he's pretty
- 32:15Speaker 5: much forgotten in this offense. It sounds like he might
- 32:17Speaker 5: get traded pretty soon. So with no Tolbert really in
- 32:21Speaker 5: the mix, Turpin and Florine are pretty cheap. You can play,
- 32:24Speaker 5: you can build it. Your best CD team goes CD
- 32:26Speaker 5: down to Pickens. There's just a lot of ways to
- 32:29Speaker 5: play this Cowboys team, and I think they moved to
- 32:31Speaker 5: football efficiently. Now they will have ownership, and that's back
- 32:35Speaker 5: to the Javante stuff. Maybe your team should look a
- 32:37Speaker 5: little different when you build Javonte Captain versus Dak or CD, etc.
- 32:41Speaker 5: But I like all of these guys at price. CD's
- 32:44Speaker 5: one of the best receivers in football. Should have a
- 32:46Speaker 5: field day. Pickens is the man, Turpens two K, Flora
- 32:49Speaker 5: and I's two point eight K. If they continue not
- 32:52Speaker 5: playing Tolbert like they did last week nearly as much,
- 32:55Speaker 5: they all have plenty of roles or plenty of opportunities
- 32:58Speaker 5: for their roles. I think Michael Wilson's my clear favorite
- 33:02Speaker 5: just because he's thirty two hundred is wide receiver two.
- 33:05Speaker 5: You can do a lot of things. I mean, if
- 33:06Speaker 5: we see a like a four K on the table today,
- 33:10Speaker 5: drop from your seven K'savin Knight to a Michael Wilson.
- 33:13Speaker 5: He's on the field of a ton you can get
- 33:15Speaker 5: in the box. He has upside. I got nothing bad
- 33:18Speaker 5: to say about him. You mentioned Zay Jones. I think
- 33:20Speaker 5: that's fine. And then, yeah, probably my least favorite at
- 33:23Speaker 5: ownership in the Flex is Marvin Harrison. I mean, if
- 33:26Speaker 5: he gets there, I probably want him to fully get there,
- 33:29Speaker 5: but it feels like he never does that.
- 33:30Speaker 4: So yeah, he's probably my least favorite.
- 33:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him more in The Captain because of
- 33:36Speaker 1: that line you just said that. Yeah, that's the reason
- 33:38Speaker 1: is if he gets there, it's like, I don't know
- 33:40Speaker 1: who it's. You were there with it yesterday, and I
- 33:42Speaker 1: know it's super frustrating. It has to be if you're
- 33:44Speaker 1: if you're on Trevor Lawrence stuff and watching Brian Thomas
- 33:47Speaker 1: Junior man, it's like, we gotta keep playing that guy.
- 33:50Speaker 1: Every time I watch it, I can't stop playing him
- 33:52Speaker 1: because it's like if you watch.
- 33:53Speaker 3: I don't know either I might have to dip out.
- 33:55Speaker 4: Might I might?
- 33:56Speaker 2: I might be dipping out sometimes.
- 33:58Speaker 4: Washington's the wider.
- 34:03Speaker 1: Parker Washington could It's funny. What was the thing I
- 34:06Speaker 1: was reading yesterday someone said that like one of his
- 34:10Speaker 1: coaches like wasn't letting it loose and then said it
- 34:11Speaker 1: they said that. I think it was Parker Washington said
- 34:13Speaker 1: he's like the Justin Jefferson of like, yeah, whatever it was.
- 34:19Speaker 1: I think it was a coach who said, one of
- 34:20Speaker 1: the coaches who said, I worked with Justin Jefferson in
- 34:23Speaker 1: his rookie year and this is what Parker Washington is
- 34:26Speaker 1: comparable to. And now you know the the always open
- 34:30Speaker 1: I think is Jamar Chase right the seven to eleven thing,
- 34:32Speaker 1: And really it used to be Justin Jefferson. I mean
- 34:34Speaker 1: it still could be and should be.
- 34:36Speaker 4: The touchdown to yesterday bad in the first half for that.
- 34:39Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. So I guess my point is is like,
- 34:42Speaker 1: but if you watch Brian Thomas Junior, just feels like
- 34:44Speaker 1: he's gonna get two to three touchdowns all these games
- 34:47Speaker 1: and he never comes away with much. But yeah, it's
- 34:50Speaker 1: brutal to watch that stuff. But that's what I think
- 34:52Speaker 1: about Marvin Harrison Junior. It's like he gets if he
- 34:55Speaker 1: gets there, big boy day. If he doesn't get there,
- 34:57Speaker 1: it's like do you even need him in flex? That's
- 34:59Speaker 1: how I always You'll think about it, and sure he
- 35:01Speaker 1: can get there depending on how the slate goes, but
- 35:03Speaker 1: it's I want if I want him, it's mostly up top,
- 35:05Speaker 1: go ahead.
- 35:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:06Speaker 2: I mean the tough part with Marvis Marvin Harrison Junior
- 35:09Speaker 2: is just watching the games. It's like he's always like
- 35:14Speaker 2: it's always a contested catch, like and then that could
- 35:16Speaker 2: be quarterback play as well, but it just leads me
- 35:18Speaker 2: to believe he's might not be getting open. And you know,
- 35:21Speaker 2: Kyler Murley throwing the ball to you is not ideal,
- 35:24Speaker 2: Like he fucking sucks, so like I get it, but
- 35:26Speaker 2: like there's just never it doesn't seem like there's ever
- 35:29Speaker 2: anything easy. He's eighty four hundred, So I kind of
- 35:32Speaker 2: agree with what you guys are saying, Like you're if
- 35:35Speaker 2: you play him in the Flex, he's gonna be still
- 35:37Speaker 2: between like twenty five and thirty percent owned, so like
- 35:40Speaker 2: he's getting ownership. If you're playhim in the Captain, he's
- 35:43Speaker 2: probably gonna be like four or five percent owned two
- 35:45Speaker 2: and it's it's a low owned sort of sort.
- 35:48Speaker 3: Of play up there.
- 35:48Speaker 2: So I think I agree with you guys that might
- 35:50Speaker 2: just prefer him up top, But I haven't built teams
- 35:53Speaker 2: that I honestly could just fade him or just go
- 35:56Speaker 2: like way underweight. I just I don't know, it just
- 35:59Speaker 2: it just has not like good for him. I prefer
- 36:01Speaker 2: those other guys Michael Wilson, Zay Jones on that side.
- 36:05Speaker 2: And I really don't have much to add on the
- 36:06Speaker 2: Dallas pass catchers. I think you guys nailed it title
- 36:09Speaker 2: definitely nailed at Ceedee, Lamb Pickens, Turpin Florine, and you
- 36:14Speaker 2: know tolbrid at thirty six hundred, Like, I just don't
- 36:17Speaker 2: think you play him if he's not on the field.
- 36:18Speaker 2: So I think all those guys are solid options, especially
- 36:22Speaker 2: if you're playing a dack up top.
- 36:24Speaker 3: Like anyway, a.
- 36:25Speaker 2: Lot of people that played back up top, they're going
- 36:26Speaker 2: to try to obviously get CD in the flex, which
- 36:29Speaker 2: makes a ton of sense, and that can be the combination.
- 36:31Speaker 2: But back up top with you know, George Pickens, I
- 36:34Speaker 2: think is a different way. I mean it's and it's simple.
- 36:36Speaker 2: It's like you're just going from wide receiver one to
- 36:38Speaker 2: wide receiver two. It's a little bit of a pivot.
- 36:40Speaker 2: And then the analogy used, you know, dropping down to
- 36:44Speaker 2: like a Michael Wilson, you can honestly apply that to
- 36:47Speaker 2: even Marvin Harrison lineups, like Marvin Harrison down to Michael Wilson.
- 36:51Speaker 2: That's fifty fifty two.
- 36:53Speaker 4: Hundred like that.
- 36:54Speaker 2: Right there was like the winning score last night, right
- 36:56Speaker 2: what didn't you guys say it was like forty four
- 36:58Speaker 2: or five or something. Yeah, so that's literally the winning
- 37:03Speaker 2: total salary last night? Is that different right there? Going
- 37:06Speaker 2: from Harrison down to Michael Wilson. Now, you know, very
- 37:10Speaker 2: unlikely that that that's the outcome tonight, but it can happen.
- 37:13Speaker 2: It can definitely happen. So I think we're all pretty
- 37:16Speaker 2: much aligned at the wide receiver spoder.
- 37:19Speaker 1: So one thing I'll address two things. Actually one is
- 37:21Speaker 1: just quickly the chat's talking about already and I just
- 37:23Speaker 1: pulled it to double check it. But yeah, Jerry Jones
- 37:26Speaker 1: promises trade deadline fireworks and then it was just on
- 37:28Speaker 1: a radio station and said it'll address their shortcomings and
- 37:32Speaker 1: did not give us we don't have the details yet.
- 37:34Speaker 4: Said they already made it. Yeah, yeah, he's already done,
- 37:37Speaker 4: but it's not coming up. I feel like it.
- 37:39Speaker 1: Made a trade immediately. It will address some things that
- 37:41Speaker 1: have been our shortcomings, so got to be defense. I mean,
- 37:46Speaker 1: everything's a shortcoming for these guys right now. But it
- 37:48Speaker 1: definitely feels like it's going to be four again. Though
- 37:51Speaker 1: people forget you know, you can make a trade with
- 37:53Speaker 1: you know where it gets you defense, and we have
- 37:55Speaker 1: to see what that takes out of this if it
- 37:57Speaker 1: does affect anything else. So we'll have to see, but
- 37:59Speaker 1: hopefully get that, but well we're live. If not, we'll
- 38:02Speaker 1: get it at some point, I'm sure. But just noting
- 38:04Speaker 1: what Hoop just said for a DFS perspective, is that's
- 38:07Speaker 1: the answer to your question, which is a very common
- 38:10Speaker 1: question we get all the time in the discord and
- 38:11Speaker 1: people asking or I'll get a DM or something about
- 38:14Speaker 1: like how much money is too much to leave on
- 38:15Speaker 1: the table in showdown. That's your answer. If a Michael
- 38:19Speaker 1: Harrison or Marvin Harrison junior lineup can turn into a
- 38:22Speaker 1: Michael Wilson lineup, well at least that fifty two hundred
- 38:25Speaker 1: dollars you can leave on the table, because that lineup
- 38:27Speaker 1: would be fine maxed out with Harrison, but we're saying
- 38:30Speaker 1: it could be Michael Wilson instead, So I think that's
- 38:33Speaker 1: key to remember. Also, this is another one like gues
- 38:36Speaker 1: C brings up the tight end. Captain Bild. That's what
- 38:38Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, like, if you have a Ferguson,
- 38:41Speaker 1: he's forty two hundred bucks less than Lamb. So whatever
- 38:43Speaker 1: your Lamb captain lineup is, change it to Ferguson and
- 38:46Speaker 1: see if that gets you a boost somewhere else. If
- 38:48Speaker 1: you feel really good about your punt plays or however
- 38:50Speaker 1: your lineup set up to make it work by all means.
- 38:52Speaker 1: But other than that, and now we're just guessing on
- 38:55Speaker 1: the trade.
- 38:56Speaker 3: So that's.
- 38:59Speaker 2: Jerry Jones considers to be significant versus like reality can
- 39:04Speaker 2: be two very very separate things.
- 39:06Speaker 3: So keep that in mind.
- 39:08Speaker 1: There's that I was gonna say something similar, what watch
- 39:10Speaker 1: what's going to have? It's going to be for a name,
- 39:13Speaker 1: you know for sure, But it's going to be the
- 39:15Speaker 1: worst trade for the Cowboys as always. It's going to
- 39:18Speaker 1: just be a horrible setup. But it's going to be like,
- 39:20Speaker 1: but we did this and we got this person. It's like, yeah,
- 39:23Speaker 1: that's terrible, but yeah they're gonna do that.
- 39:24Speaker 5: That's what the cowboy guess, and he guess that's for
- 39:27Speaker 5: you guys.
- 39:27Speaker 1: The chat said Max Crosby, I'm going Trey Hendrickson, Yeah.
- 39:32Speaker 4: I guess first round pick. Yeah, Jerry, Jerry can throw
- 39:38Speaker 4: those out like candy.
- 39:39Speaker 3: That's what I'm guessing.
- 39:42Speaker 5: Zero clue though, I just know Crosby doesn't. He keeps
- 39:44Speaker 5: saying he wants to stay. It's not up to him.
- 39:47Speaker 5: That would be one to pick up. Max Crosby is
- 39:51Speaker 5: if he gets traded, it's got to be coming this way, though,
- 39:53Speaker 5: it's got to be coming to the Lions.
- 39:55Speaker 3: I'd assume.
- 39:56Speaker 1: No, this makes sense too. We saw this today because
- 39:58Speaker 1: Miami said they're willing to move. Didn't say that, Patrick,
- 40:01Speaker 1: That'll doubt it covers what he thinks it would. But
- 40:03Speaker 1: that'd be This is the That's a prime example of
- 40:06Speaker 1: what it would be. That's what the Cowboys would be. Like,
- 40:07Speaker 1: We're getting this guy and everyone's like that guy, like, hey,
- 40:10Speaker 1: we're giving up all of this, and you're like, what
- 40:13Speaker 1: it was already bad and now you did that. That's
- 40:15Speaker 1: that's classic Cowboys one on one right there.
- 40:17Speaker 5: But we didn't talk about this yet. But what about Rico?
- 40:19Speaker 5: I mean, is it rocket science, buddy? I mean, put
- 40:22Speaker 5: the guy in the game and figure out.
- 40:24Speaker 2: It's just so crazy, man, I don't realize. Okay, obviously
- 40:27Speaker 2: we don't follow like standings much doing what we do.
- 40:31Speaker 4: And they're trying to five and playing chubo when they're
- 40:35Speaker 4: actually winning football games. It's rating football game.
- 40:38Speaker 2: I was shocked when I saw there five and four
- 40:41Speaker 2: y yeah, like, and it's night and day when Rico
- 40:44Speaker 2: Dodle is in there versus when he's not in there. Like, man,
- 40:48Speaker 2: dude is a beast.
- 40:49Speaker 4: He's an absolute beast. Dude is a beast. And that
- 40:52Speaker 4: division is open.
- 40:53Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean they got Yeah, the Bucks are
- 40:55Speaker 5: six and two inches solid, but I mean, yeah, five
- 40:57Speaker 5: and four right there, Bucks are beat up up ship.
- 41:01Speaker 6: I mean, Lions are five and five and three.
- 41:03Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, oh gosh, just think about it.
- 41:08Speaker 2: Yesterday, like who everyone thought was the top teams in
- 41:12Speaker 2: the NFL.
- 41:14Speaker 3: Kansas City lost. Obviously their lost wasn't bad because it
- 41:17Speaker 3: was to the Bills.
- 41:18Speaker 7: Lions lost, Colts got smoked, Green Bay smoked like it's
- 41:26Speaker 7: it's the NFL is crazy. It's fun though, it's fun,
- 41:29Speaker 7: it's great.
- 41:30Speaker 1: You know, it's better than you know, well, same team.
- 41:34Speaker 1: But that's what I went through that you never do.
- 41:36Speaker 1: But as the one we've been talking about on this
- 41:37Speaker 1: exact show where people will relate to it was the
- 41:39Speaker 1: Carolina situation. Carolina smokes Atlanta. We're watching Buffalo Atlanta. We're like, man,
- 41:44Speaker 1: this line seems off. Nope, Atlanta gets the job done.
- 41:47Speaker 1: We're like, oh, maybe Buffalo is just not good. Buffalo
- 41:49Speaker 1: comes off of by plays, Carolina smokes them. Now Buffalo's
- 41:53Speaker 1: beating Kansas City and Carolina's beating Green Bay, so Buffalo
- 41:57Speaker 1: kind of makes sense. Carolina, though, just all over them.
- 42:00Speaker 1: App you can get anything out of this team at
- 42:01Speaker 1: any given time. That's wild. That was nuts and a.
- 42:04Speaker 2: If you're still in the survivor's streets, they're probably going
- 42:06Speaker 2: to be pretty popular this week at home against the
- 42:10Speaker 2: against the Saints. That would just be so Panther like
- 42:13Speaker 2: them to just come out and get absolutely smoked by
- 42:15Speaker 2: the Saints this weekend.
- 42:16Speaker 4: Hopefully, I think that's gonna happen.
- 42:19Speaker 1: I think it's very likely that could happen. I don't
- 42:21Speaker 1: think it's very likely, but I think it's very possible.
- 42:22Speaker 3: So it's gonna be Yeah.
- 42:25Speaker 5: More than people Meg, Bryce, Young Beacha. That's how I'm
- 42:28Speaker 5: playing these Panthers every single day.
- 42:30Speaker 4: If I'm heal for.
- 42:32Speaker 1: Yeah, the best is it'll be people that like didn't
- 42:35Speaker 1: save good teams all year and now this week they're
- 42:37Speaker 1: like all right, you know, or the opposite I'm saying,
- 42:39Speaker 1: they'll be like this is the week they'll break free
- 42:41Speaker 1: from their strategy and be like I'm just gonna go
- 42:43Speaker 1: to the shitty team now in a great spot, and
- 42:45Speaker 1: that's when they'll lose, and like, damn it, I shouldn't
- 42:47Speaker 1: get my strategy. I had this and others will prosper
- 42:50Speaker 1: and hopefully our man title gets it and that'd be
- 42:53Speaker 1: awesome too. So what else? What have we got here?
- 42:55Speaker 4: Guys?
- 42:56Speaker 1: Tight Ends? That's that's the only thing really to go
- 42:58Speaker 1: to beyond everything else we've talked about.
- 43:01Speaker 3: So I don't know.
- 43:01Speaker 1: I talked mostly about wide receiver. I think I'll add
- 43:04Speaker 1: quickly on that title and then I'll kick it to
- 43:06Speaker 1: you for tight end. But Zay I mentioned the only
- 43:08Speaker 1: thing I would say is it looks like his ownership
- 43:10Speaker 1: is going to be half of Michael Wilson. And we'll
- 43:13Speaker 1: see how that actually shakes out. But his prop is
- 43:15Speaker 1: four yards less and I don't really care that much.
- 43:17Speaker 1: It's close enough for me, then I think it could
- 43:19Speaker 1: be a spot we see him work here. But I
- 43:20Speaker 1: like Michael Wilson too, So maybe if you play Brissette
- 43:23Speaker 1: with both of those guys or something along those lines.
- 43:25Speaker 1: So just bringing it up, that's why I brought him
- 43:28Speaker 1: up earlier. And then on the other side, it looks like,
- 43:31Speaker 1: you know, Turpin is going to be somewhat held in check,
- 43:34Speaker 1: and he's he's twelve hundred bucks less than Michael Wilson,
- 43:37Speaker 1: He's two thousand less than Jay Jones. I'd be fine
- 43:40Speaker 1: with that. He'll be a more popular two thousand dollars
- 43:42Speaker 1: value though, so maybe you got to think of it
- 43:43Speaker 1: from that perspective, but I would think about him a
- 43:46Speaker 1: little bit. And then after that it's going to be
- 43:47Speaker 1: mostly just moving to the tight ends at the fair prices.
- 43:51Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's it's those
- 43:53Speaker 1: guys that sort of why I said put them in
- 43:55Speaker 1: the Captain like McBride and Ferguson, because then I don't
- 43:58Speaker 1: have to have all these conversations and thoughts around twelve
- 44:00Speaker 1: hundred dollars and two thousand dollars guys. So I'll kick
- 44:02Speaker 1: it to you title tight ends.
- 44:04Speaker 4: Yeah, I really don't love it.
- 44:06Speaker 5: McBride clearly, Elijah Higgins at one K, I mean he's
- 44:09Speaker 5: on the field like I don't know, forty percent of
- 44:11Speaker 5: the time Cardio for days. But if he gets in
- 44:14Speaker 5: the box once it could get there, he's plus six hundred.
- 44:16Speaker 5: He's cheap. I'm good with it. Spoon Makers also plus
- 44:19Speaker 5: six hundred. At sixteen hundred, he just has so much
- 44:22Speaker 5: more competition for targets with CD Pickens all these other guys.
- 44:26Speaker 5: So again, it's fine, but I definitely like Higgins more.
- 44:29Speaker 5: If choosing even for six hundred savings and then yeah,
- 44:33Speaker 5: I just like, I'm not not going to play for
- 44:35Speaker 5: but I think the price is too high. I don't
- 44:37Speaker 5: love the props. I'm just gonna be on more of
- 44:39Speaker 5: the wide receivers and running backs for or running backs
- 44:43Speaker 5: meeting Javonte for the Cowboys stuff. So I don't really
- 44:45Speaker 5: love the tight end position outside of Tree.
- 44:47Speaker 1: Okay, Coop, I'll kick it over to you on the
- 44:49Speaker 1: tight ends and any you want to add.
- 44:50Speaker 2: There not much more to add, I mean still, I
- 44:55Speaker 2: mean I have to stand ferguson a little bit more.
- 44:57Speaker 3: But yeah, the price tag is a little prohibitive.
- 45:00Speaker 2: What eight k's is just one thousand dollars cheaper than
- 45:03Speaker 2: trade McBride. That is, that is tough, There's no doubt
- 45:06Speaker 2: about it. But you know it's gonna keep his ownership
- 45:09Speaker 2: in check, and I'm still gonna be on him, But
- 45:12Speaker 2: like trade McBride and then you can play Higgins, and
- 45:16Speaker 2: I think that's probably it. Schoon Maker has a projection.
- 45:20Speaker 3: But I don't really love it. What does he We
- 45:24Speaker 3: have him at two point six' five for Schoon maker
- 45:27Speaker 3: AND i don't.
- 45:29Speaker 2: KNOW i just think you need you need a lot
- 45:31Speaker 2: more than that on the, slate so not not too
- 45:33Speaker 2: excited outside of, McBride and then you know a gap To.
- 45:39Speaker 3: Ferguson.
- 45:40Speaker 1: YEAH i think bigger thing for me is probably playing
- 45:43Speaker 1: them both together a. Lot So i'm not gonna be
- 45:46Speaker 1: able to get a discount between. Them but IF i
- 45:48Speaker 1: play them, both maybe that's WHERE i can get a
- 45:50Speaker 1: little bit different depending on how it looks a lot
- 45:52Speaker 1: to see it as all shakes, out BUT i like
- 45:53Speaker 1: that more than trying to figure out some of The
- 45:56Speaker 1: i'd probably Go, higgins but more than Like, Higgins, schoonmaker
- 45:59Speaker 1: all these other options down. There it's just so tricky
- 46:01Speaker 1: to go that. ROUTE i think for, me the biggest
- 46:03Speaker 1: draw is more and it's NOT i might not even
- 46:06Speaker 1: end up that, close but the bigger draws Like ferguson
- 46:08Speaker 1: off Of pickens for, example like it's eight hundred bucks.
- 46:11Speaker 1: LESS i hope people Think ferguson is a pay, up
- 46:14Speaker 1: so maybe they don't want to go. There if he
- 46:16Speaker 1: was like seventy nine hundred more would be on him
- 46:18Speaker 1: or something like, that or seventy five or something along those.
- 46:20Speaker 1: Lines So i'll do. That we've we've we've established where
- 46:24Speaker 1: there is five two hundred dollars to play with on this.
- 46:27Speaker 1: Slate if you're not Going harrison up in the captain
- 46:29Speaker 1: and he fits in the, flex he can just drop.
- 46:31Speaker 1: Down So i'm kind of, Again i'm willing to go
- 46:34Speaker 1: anyway WHEN i WHEN i go down, THERE i think
- 46:36Speaker 1: it would be Probably ferguson Over pickings more often than.
- 46:39Speaker 1: Not SO i don't. KNOW i guess we could circle
- 46:41Speaker 1: back to that, too titled The pickens, conversation like is
- 46:45Speaker 1: he gonna be five percent of the captain or is
- 46:47Speaker 1: he gonna be eight percent of the? Captain like IT'S
- 46:50Speaker 1: i feel like it actually leans probably like five.
- 46:52Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah probably more that way if we're right on.
- 46:56Speaker 5: That In javonte, though THAT cd could be twenty one twenty.
- 46:59Speaker 5: TWO i, mean he has the clear name with enough
- 47:02Speaker 5: value down, below like not everyone can moon walk.
- 47:04Speaker 4: BACK i don't know how many people want.
- 47:06Speaker 5: To click per, set LIKE i think if we get,
- 47:09Speaker 5: STEAM i think it's on THE cd and trade. Stuff
- 47:11Speaker 5: Like hoop said, earlier trace price is phenomenal as the
- 47:15Speaker 5: most comfortable click on the cardinal.
- 47:17Speaker 4: Side AND i, mean just everyone knows CD's.
- 47:19Speaker 1: Upside C w got me laughing right. Now so cowboys
- 47:24Speaker 1: just traded since it says If jerry gave up a
- 47:28Speaker 1: first to The bengals For, anderson it's time to put
- 47:30Speaker 1: him in a. Home this, guy, yeah it's this is
- 47:32Speaker 1: not going to be a good. Trade and then our
- 47:34Speaker 1: Guy tyler mentioned, earlier was That jerry hyped up The
- 47:37Speaker 1: mingo trade last. Year let's not forget that he was
- 47:40Speaker 1: all pumped. Up where's that guy? At like nowhere nothing
- 47:45Speaker 1: to be. Found SO i don't know anything else you
- 47:47Speaker 1: want to add their? Title if, not we can go
- 47:49Speaker 1: To hoop For kickers And.
- 47:50Speaker 4: D's, yeah, No kickers And. D'S i already THINK i
- 47:53Speaker 4: know what who's gonna, say not The d's play The.
- 47:55Speaker 1: Kickers kickers all got to be good, tonight, Right?
- 47:58Speaker 2: Hoop, yeah absolutely like both of, them even the Obviously
- 48:02Speaker 2: aubrey's absolute stud can make the sixty. Yarders ryland's been
- 48:06Speaker 2: consistent a lot of double digit fantasy point. Games i'm
- 48:10Speaker 2: just not playing the. DEFENSES i don't. Care LIKE i get,
- 48:12Speaker 2: it they're probably not going to be.
- 48:15Speaker 3: Highly.
- 48:15Speaker 6: Owned just pulling this, up we have let's see where they're.
- 48:21Speaker 6: At The, cardinals like we haven't met seven. Percent, yeah
- 48:25Speaker 6: it's probably pretty. Accurate cowboys fourteen. Percent, no we we
- 48:30Speaker 6: have them at. Nine saber hasn't at, Fourteen.
- 48:32Speaker 3: So, YEAH i don't.
- 48:33Speaker 2: Know like fader to, Me i'll be close to fading,
- 48:37Speaker 2: them and then if that does work, out LIKE i
- 48:39Speaker 2: having a twenty percentage advantage on the, Field So i'm.
- 48:43Speaker 3: Fine just if the defense has beat me, tonight so be.
- 48:46Speaker 1: It if you play The COWBOYS d and The Captain
- 48:50Speaker 1: Kyler murray in the, flex definitely it's easier for. Them
- 48:54Speaker 1: the Reason Kyler murray gets in the game is because
- 48:56Speaker 1: THE d is so on top Of brissett and they're
- 49:00Speaker 1: all hyped up because they got this new big name
- 49:02Speaker 1: coming to their team that they find out. About and
- 49:05Speaker 1: Then kyler comes in and he's just as bad as
- 49:07Speaker 1: he always was and he gets crushed.
- 49:08Speaker 2: Too if you want to absolutely guarantee that a lineup
- 49:13Speaker 2: has the chance to solo. Ship that's the that's the
- 49:16Speaker 2: starting point right. There that will guarantee you a solo
- 49:19Speaker 2: ship if the lineup gets.
- 49:21Speaker 1: There you gotta have the game theory. Brain, man you gotta.
- 49:24Speaker 3: Go tell, yeah what's the top prize? Tonight three?
- 49:26Speaker 1: Hundred g's up top three.
- 49:28Speaker 2: Hundred there you, Go, Yeah so that's that's one way
- 49:30Speaker 2: they will be live for.
- 49:32Speaker 1: The, MAN i gotta look tomorrow see how many people
- 49:35Speaker 1: actually played, that Because i'm not actually recommending. That i'm
- 49:38Speaker 1: just making an idea, here like you just throw out.
- 49:40Speaker 1: There the most obvious play At kicker was Obviously Brandon,
- 49:45Speaker 1: aubrey who who mentioned because he looks at the box
- 49:47Speaker 1: scores and goes off of. That but you've got a
- 49:50Speaker 1: couple Of kickers you could use here at tonight title
- 49:52Speaker 1: and then give us your thoughts on the d if
- 49:54Speaker 1: you want to give anything.
- 49:55Speaker 4: There, Yeah i'm such a.
- 49:57Speaker 5: DONKEY i go for these solo less unique So i'm
- 50:00Speaker 5: always playing these bad defenses AND i always get. Killed
- 50:03Speaker 5: but it's, YEAH i, MEAN i can't make a case
- 50:05Speaker 5: THAT i like either defense. Today it's just they're really
- 50:08Speaker 5: low owned and it takes one play in a very high,
- 50:11Speaker 5: variant not only one play from the, defense the special
- 50:13Speaker 5: teams like it can be completely different than the.
- 50:15Speaker 4: Defense so DO i love? It? Now it's completely low.
- 50:18Speaker 5: Owned if a defense is on the winner most, slates
- 50:22Speaker 5: it's probably pretty low owned up there or low dupes up.
- 50:25Speaker 1: THERE i had TO i forget where what it was
- 50:28Speaker 1: back and forth. About but if somebody was, saying, like
- 50:30Speaker 1: the defenses are much better plays because they start with, ten.
- 50:33Speaker 4: Yeah it's not the reasoning that That i'm using over.
- 50:37Speaker 1: Here.
- 50:38Speaker 2: Jeezday there is a percentage of people that definitely do,
- 50:43Speaker 2: that like so that they can see themselves at the,
- 50:46Speaker 2: top like THE i think that's.
- 50:48Speaker 1: DIFFERENT i think that's like a THING i want to
- 50:50Speaker 1: see my name next to The. Pride there's definitely that
- 50:52Speaker 1: group of. People BUT i think there's people that think
- 50:54Speaker 1: that based on like just same as the other people
- 50:57Speaker 1: think that you can't play a defense if they're not
- 50:58Speaker 1: going to get a, shutout well they'll be as soon
- 51:01Speaker 1: as points are, Scored, like, well my defense pick is
- 51:03Speaker 1: dead for the.
- 51:04Speaker 4: Week like the Freaking titans.
- 51:06Speaker 5: YESTERDAY i mean that shows all you need to know about, Defense, like,
- 51:09Speaker 5: yeah the lowest price of whatever the biggest thought like
- 51:12Speaker 5: they got TWENTY i mean, Crazy, yeah you.
- 51:15Speaker 1: Know what's crazy is that was like such a if
- 51:17Speaker 1: you go back and, look LIKE i didn't Really vidal
- 51:19Speaker 1: got to twenty three percent fifty FIVE. Milli so it's
- 51:23Speaker 1: just like an auto leverage to reverse. It AND i was,
- 51:26Speaker 1: like because at FIRST i was thinking like why were
- 51:28Speaker 1: they the CHEAP d of? Everything but then you see
- 51:31Speaker 1: it and you go back and, look and that's obviously
- 51:33Speaker 1: part of. It if you had V doll getting up,
- 51:34Speaker 1: there you just have a CHEAP d on the opposite.
- 51:36Speaker 1: Side if you're not playing, him it's a way to
- 51:38Speaker 1: double leverage it and move up the. Board SO i
- 51:41Speaker 1: did a ton of review stuff this morning with the
- 51:43Speaker 1: takedown breakdown a little bit more after and just looking at.
- 51:45Speaker 1: It that was the. Thing and our projections had The,
- 51:48Speaker 1: titans and well we had The bengals and The titans
- 51:50Speaker 1: as On. FanDuel just do My fandel review that they
- 51:54Speaker 1: were both our min price and they both. Popped and
- 51:58Speaker 1: what DID i love ON? FANDUE i love the k.
- 52:00Speaker 1: Stuff so it's, like wouldn't have played The, Bengals so
- 52:02Speaker 1: IF i just put in these guys it comes from
- 52:05Speaker 1: the bubbles in The. Juggernaut one Thing i'm Learning hoop
- 52:08Speaker 1: about FanDuel in The Juggernaut Great. TOURNAMENT i think there's
- 52:12Speaker 1: a lot of bad lineups in, there and it's, like
- 52:14Speaker 1: really play it just meaning like play it too, Safe
- 52:16Speaker 1: like it's very. Safe it's hard to ship it and
- 52:18Speaker 1: get up to the top without doing something a little bit.
- 52:20Speaker 1: Different but, man when you bubble Those, juggernauts that's those
- 52:24Speaker 1: buyings can add up quickly and you're, like, well, no thy,
- 52:27Speaker 1: GOOLD i just missed min. Cashing everything was, Clean but
- 52:31Speaker 1: it matters so much more if you lose like two
- 52:33Speaker 1: or three entries to something like, that where you're, like,
- 52:34Speaker 1: OH i don't really love riding that wave as. Much
- 52:37Speaker 1: Maybe i'll Let hoop have fan. Duel but.
- 52:40Speaker 4: WO i woke up eight eighty, eight which is way
- 52:43Speaker 4: less than The.
- 52:43Speaker 5: Juggernaut BUT i went to bed AND i cast the last,
- 52:45Speaker 5: spot AND i woke up and got stack. Correct i'm,
- 52:48Speaker 5: like what The i'm looking at my saber thing and
- 52:50Speaker 5: it says you got zero.
- 52:51Speaker 4: BET i was like what AND i.
- 52:53Speaker 5: Looked and out it's, like, yeah that's all the games are.
- 52:55Speaker 5: Done stack crushed and there's you Never. Tambo he's always on.
- 52:59Speaker 5: Top don't, congratulate don't do. This he'll wait till everything's
- 53:02Speaker 5: final to send it. Rightfully SO i mean crazy things.
- 53:05Speaker 1: Happen we talked about that earlier. Too last NIGHT i
- 53:08Speaker 1: was leading at half and so the discord cheering, Rooting,
- 53:12Speaker 1: YEAH i love, that And i'm not against the. JINXES
- 53:16Speaker 1: i don't. CARE i actually liked the night a couple
- 53:17Speaker 1: of weeks or like a week, ago WHEN i lost
- 53:19Speaker 1: on That mario TO i IN. T at Least i'm
- 53:21Speaker 1: sitting there sweating, it And i'm actually sweating something no one.
- 53:24Speaker 1: Can there's no. Jinks it doesn't exist for, me at
- 53:27Speaker 1: least doesn't. Exist we're all watching the same. Game let's
- 53:29Speaker 1: sweat it out. Together with a minute left and we
- 53:31Speaker 1: just start fading THIS i IN. T that's kind of.
- 53:33Speaker 1: Fun and we're up three, points like everything's, good but
- 53:36Speaker 1: or two. Points but when it's like, halftime it's Like
- 53:38Speaker 1: i'm not being. Rude it was like it doesn't. Matter
- 53:40Speaker 1: it's LIKE i appreciate that you're, cheering AND i do love,
- 53:43Speaker 1: that but we have a whole game to go. Here
- 53:45Speaker 1: we gotta just settle down and. Wait AND i ended.
- 53:48Speaker 1: Up what's that four?
- 53:49Speaker 5: Minutes he right as zero the whole, game and then
- 53:51Speaker 5: you Need Sea rod or whatever on the winner because
- 53:53Speaker 5: it's like.
- 53:54Speaker 4: The most random stuff.
- 53:55Speaker 1: Happens, well see you know, What Sea rod didn't end
- 53:57Speaker 1: up on the.
- 53:58Speaker 4: Winner oh he wasn't on the winner in that arroyo
- 54:01Speaker 4: of all.
- 54:01Speaker 1: Things AND i know this BECAUSE i had a zero v.
- 54:04Speaker 1: ZERO i had The Donald captain flipped with THE Jsn,
- 54:07Speaker 1: captain a fourteen way chop down the board versus the
- 54:11Speaker 1: two way chop up top with AWESOME o and Cut
- 54:15Speaker 1: sweats Owner Nelson. Adcock those who don't, Know i'm awesome.
- 54:17Speaker 1: Dude but, yeah those guys got up top for one
- 54:19Speaker 1: sixty FIVE, k so shout out to. Them BUT i
- 54:21Speaker 1: had the captain flip and it was still even a
- 54:24Speaker 1: bunch of money on the, table which is why it
- 54:26Speaker 1: was only like a fourteen way. Chop but it was
- 54:28Speaker 1: also the worst BECAUSE i Loved donald last night AND i,
- 54:32Speaker 1: said why DIDN'T i just have that version of that?
- 54:34Speaker 1: Lineup SO i hate to see. That but, yeah congrats to,
- 54:37Speaker 1: them and we keep getting after. It tonight three HUNDRED
- 54:39Speaker 1: k up top twenty dollars buy, in so it should
- 54:41Speaker 1: be another fun slate. Hoop anything you see on The
- 54:44Speaker 1: FanDuel side of, things you want to bring.
- 54:46Speaker 2: Up kind of more aggressive with the pricing for. Sure
- 54:51Speaker 2: so Like dak's thirteen, K Cd lamb twelve, EIGHT i
- 54:55Speaker 2: guess one kind of, Well Davonte williams is twelve to,
- 54:59Speaker 2: two so he's kind of up there WITH dak AND
- 55:01Speaker 2: Cd brissette eleven. Four Kyler murray also eleven, Four so
- 55:06Speaker 2: if you have some faith in, Him PICKENS i come
- 55:10Speaker 2: down a little bit Like night is seventy four hundred
- 55:13Speaker 2: that he's right above The, kickers which is probably a
- 55:16Speaker 2: pretty good. Value it's a seven k ON, dk but
- 55:19Speaker 2: the seven to four on fanduels is even.
- 55:22Speaker 4: Cheaper, yeah going through, it nothing.
- 55:27Speaker 2: Truly stands out to be, honest it's probably pretty similar
- 55:30Speaker 2: between the two.
- 55:31Speaker 1: Sites all, right, title did you see anything else on?
- 55:34Speaker 1: THERE i, mean just from A mvp, perspective the one
- 55:37Speaker 1: THAT i was seeing was.
- 55:40Speaker 4: Where's it?
- 55:40Speaker 1: At it was A Marvin HARRISON i, think, right he
- 55:43Speaker 1: was he's cheaper On FanDuel then he has On. DraftKings,
- 55:47Speaker 1: yeah that's what it. Was that was the big one for.
- 55:48Speaker 1: Me he's eighty two hundred in The flex at THE
- 55:51Speaker 1: mvp On fanduley's twelve. Three so again we talked about
- 55:54Speaker 1: him now THAT i love this play or this, spot
- 55:56Speaker 1: but if you are going to roll him out and
- 55:58Speaker 1: hope for the big, game that that's the spot. There
- 56:00Speaker 1: he's a TWO d cheaper than McBride over there, too
- 56:04Speaker 1: way cheaper Than, brissett all that anything else you have
- 56:07Speaker 1: to add.
- 56:07Speaker 5: There, Yeah Fandal, AGAIN i don't really play it over
- 56:10Speaker 5: there for, showdown but just looking at pricing and, stuff
- 56:13Speaker 5: LIKE i think it's even more condensed AT, mvp LIKE
- 56:15Speaker 5: dak AND cd could be approaching fifty percent just them
- 56:18Speaker 5: to because it's the half POINT. Ppr but like there's
- 56:22Speaker 5: enough kind of value on this late or like people
- 56:24Speaker 5: are just fine punting with one of a floorine at
- 56:27Speaker 5: TWO k or let key and it gets you whatever you.
- 56:30Speaker 5: Want It's Onovian, knight like who, mentioned is under price for.
- 56:33Speaker 5: Sure he's seven point four, K carter seven, K aubrey,
- 56:37Speaker 5: seven And ryland six' eight Like the kickers being four
- 56:41Speaker 5: hundred and six hundred by a starting. Running back that'll
- 56:44Speaker 5: make him a lot more popular. Over THERE but i
- 56:47Speaker 5: think if You play, Pickens McBride marv javante like any
- 56:52Speaker 5: of them really, UP top i think you're you're getting
- 56:55Speaker 5: a little bit of a discount and ownership and on a.
- 56:57Speaker 4: Different, build yeah any, other podcast.
- 57:01Speaker 5: Go, ahead yeah it's Gonna Be jacoby, brissett starting Not Not.
- 57:05Speaker 5: Kyler murray, but no it's a lot of money. Up
- 57:07Speaker 5: top fifty three and a. Half total you should see
- 57:10Speaker 5: the ball moving on. Both sides i'm excited for.
- 57:11Speaker 4: This.
- 57:12Speaker 1: One hoop anything you want to, add man final thoughts
- 57:15Speaker 1: or anyone we want to talk about before we get out.
- 57:17Speaker 2: Of, here yeah, fun game looking forward to a. BIG
- 57:19Speaker 2: total i think a wide range of outcomes in terms
- 57:22Speaker 2: of the potential winning, Lineup tonight so it should be a.
- 57:25Speaker 2: Fun one, and yeah let's finish out the week. Strong,
- 57:28Speaker 2: here yeah if.
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