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Shakur Stevenson Needs to Announce a Fight Already! · The Mixed Company Podcast

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  Speaker 2: All right. Thank you. Welcome back to another episode of
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  Speaker 2: Mixed Company Podcast, of course. I'm going to have the show.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jameson. As always, I'm joined by Luis. Luis, what's
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  Speaker 2: going on, man?
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  Speaker 3: What's up, Jameson? We're here to talk about professional boxing,
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  Speaker 3: a sport that I love more than most things in
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  Speaker 3: the world. But as usual with anything, you got to
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  Speaker 3: take the good with the bad. And the boxing news
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  Speaker 3: last week took a turn towards Stupid City. You know,
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  Speaker 3: let's just say rumors. We're not going to say full-on news.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, there's some items that came out that I
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  Speaker 3: wanted us to touch on. I believe all this happened
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  Speaker 3: at the same day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But let's start here. Ryan Garcia, you know, came out swinging,
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  Speaker 3: looking great at his last fight. Pitbull Cruz called him out.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan said, hey, man, want to fight in December? Let's
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  Speaker 3: do it. According to Ryan, Pitbull already ducked him and
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  Speaker 3: is not agreeing to a fight in December. Always hard
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  Speaker 3: to say, you know, who's telling the truth and who
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  Speaker 3: says what, blah, blah, blah. To Ryan's credit, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he did say, I've tried to fight Pitbull before. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to give him a chance, his last chance here.
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  Speaker 3: So I'll tell my team to send the contract. And
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  Speaker 3: it looks like that fight might not actually be happening,
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  Speaker 3: which is kind of a bummer. It's a really big
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  Speaker 3: letdown considering how excited we were for Ryan 2.0, for
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  Speaker 3: a fight between him and Pitbull, another big match before
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  Speaker 3: the end of the year. But I just want to
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  Speaker 3: get your take on how you feel about this potentially
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  Speaker 3: falling apart so soon.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised. I mean, it's a lot going
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  Speaker 2: on in boxing right now. Also, supposedly, Ryan only has
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  Speaker 2: one more fight on his deal with Oscar, supposedly. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I keep hearing. So that's also a factor. And
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things as well, because if the big
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  Speaker 2: fights in May and there's a chance that he don't
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  Speaker 2: fight till May. If you're Oscar, you only have Ryan
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  Speaker 2: for another fight. You want to waste it on a
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  Speaker 2: tune-up in November or December? Don't think that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot going on, a lot of jostling going
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  Speaker 2: on with that. With that being said, if Ryan wants
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  Speaker 2: to fight in December, he's going to fight in December.
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  Speaker 2: And the opponent necessarily won't necessarily matter as long as
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  Speaker 2: it's someone of Pitbull's caliber or better. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: think that's the key is what type of caliber of
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  Speaker 2: opponent are we talking about? I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of points to choose from. It really depends on what
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  Speaker 2: the plan is for both this fight and the one
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  Speaker 2: in May. That's the biggest thing. However, as long as
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  Speaker 2: there's a fight, I think we're good. We don't, we
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  Speaker 2: need a layoff of like nine plus months. As long
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  Speaker 2: as we get a fight, we'll be okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And an interesting thing that, again, rumors out in the,
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  Speaker 3: in the internet and social media is that Ryan might
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  Speaker 3: want to push up the tail female fight to December
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  Speaker 3: that he was initially looking at in May, which is interesting, which,
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  Speaker 3: May is the big moneymaker, especially if you've got a
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  Speaker 3: lot of hype behind it. So is he trying to
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  Speaker 3: get his contract with Oscar out of the way and
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  Speaker 3: maybe sign with Zufa as well if they're offering him
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  Speaker 3: a shit ton of money?
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  Speaker 2: Or like DAZN or whomever. I mean, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of different offers out there for him. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of different options for him. Who says he leaves Oscar,
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  Speaker 2: you know? So there's a lot of options. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing to look at. And also, too, a
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  Speaker 2: lot can change in nine months. So if you can
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  Speaker 2: get a guaranteed fight in three, why not take the guarantees?
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  Speaker 2: If you know there's a fight in December that you
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  Speaker 2: can take and it'd be part of another card, then
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  Speaker 2: why not? Because it feels like Benavidez is going to
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  Speaker 2: fight in December as well, whether it's the 12th or
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  Speaker 2: the 19th. He's going to fight regardless of it. Might
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  Speaker 2: as well be on that card as well and make
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  Speaker 2: it another super card and go from there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I think it's kind of actually smart on
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  Speaker 3: Ryan if he does do that, if he pushes up
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  Speaker 3: the tail film fight to December because just based on
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  Speaker 3: where he's been in the last year, he's got negotiating power.
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  Speaker 3: Now he's back to being a potential challenger Dependable star,
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  Speaker 3: dependable in the ring, more focused than he was before.
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  Speaker 3: So if he really wants to keep that up and
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  Speaker 3: he really puts in the effort to stay on that track,
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  Speaker 3: then he can be the guy, the moneymaker. So either
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  Speaker 3: with Oscar or anybody else, he'll like, I'm good for 2026.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm going to be a major player in Cinco
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  Speaker 3: de Mayo in September going forward, then let's see the
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  Speaker 3: new better contract for me.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: No, I hear that. I definitely hear all that. But
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  Speaker 2: the thing with Ryan is it's more of like he
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  Speaker 2: stays focused, he stays sharp through all this because there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot going on in a short amount of time.
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to see his professionalism. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: see if he's serious or not because it's very easy
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  Speaker 2: to slip up when you have these big grand plans
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  Speaker 2: in the works. Sure.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is going to be for the rest
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  Speaker 3: of this year and definitely 2027. We're going to see
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  Speaker 3: what Ryan Garcia is all about because he has every
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  Speaker 3: opportunity in the world. These are his opportunities to lose after...
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  Speaker 3: We've been through it a million times. His layoff for
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  Speaker 3: a year, his shenanigans, him losing to Roley and not
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  Speaker 3: even putting in effort to fight. So far, I'm liking
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  Speaker 3: what I've been seeing. But now we're going to see
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  Speaker 3: if he's really going to be about that life. And
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  Speaker 3: like you said, stay disciplined and focused. And again, I've
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  Speaker 3: absolutely talked shit about Ryan Garcia before because I thought
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  Speaker 3: he was overrated. But I want him to be a
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  Speaker 3: big star and a big draw for the sport. He's
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  Speaker 3: just got to stay... stay focused. So I'll be, I would,
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  Speaker 3: I would be very curious. I, for me, for my curiosity,
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  Speaker 3: I would rather he fight in December. And if that's
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  Speaker 3: the case to see if his, if his contract is
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  Speaker 3: up with Oscar, I'm more curious about seeing what happens,
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  Speaker 3: what he does after that. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I hear you. I hear you. No, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: fascinating either way. Cause a lot of storyline, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of options, but the key is there's options to make
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  Speaker 2: good fights. I think that's the most important thing. As
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  Speaker 2: long as we have that, everything else is secondary. So
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  Speaker 2: that's cool. it's just we kind of want to get
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  Speaker 2: things straightened out because a lot of uncertainty right now
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fights are being rumored to be made
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  Speaker 2: not a whole lot's been official but a lot of
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  Speaker 2: rumors so it'll be good to see once things are finalized.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely another thing too you know i'm saying that i
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  Speaker 3: would love to see uh ryan fight pitbull or anybody
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  Speaker 3: in december just because i want more fights but it's
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  Speaker 3: not unreasonable for him to take you know uh time
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  Speaker 3: off between now and may after just having fought connor
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  Speaker 3: ben so at the same time you know i'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to be like oh this is bullshit blah blah
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  Speaker 3: blah like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, especially since the fight only went a couple rounds.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's not like he went through a war.
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  Speaker 2: More of a sparring match than anything. So he can
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  Speaker 2: come back in December with no issues, I don't think,
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  Speaker 2: as long as he didn't have any injuries that we
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  Speaker 2: don't know about. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very intrigued. Ryan's boxing career is something that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of really fascinating to me in the sport right now,
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  Speaker 3: outside of the ring, as opposed to just what he's
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  Speaker 3: looked like in the ring the last couple times. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm very, very curious. I'm going to keep up with
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  Speaker 3: these stories. So we'll do a quick run through, through
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  Speaker 3: the things that came up last week. Rumors of Shakur
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  Speaker 3: Stevenson potentially fighting Manny Pacquiao. I'm sorry, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Neither of us are fans. I think it's ridiculous. No
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  Speaker 3: disrespect to Manny because he did come back in that
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  Speaker 3: last fight looking good. You know, he, he looked better
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  Speaker 3: than expected, but this is not it for Shakur specifically.
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  Speaker 3: Like when you're the guy that, The best boxer in
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  Speaker 3: the world, according to how you walk around talking about yourself,
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  Speaker 3: you can't fight old man Manny Pacquiao. You've got to
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  Speaker 3: challenge yourself with the new younger guys that want to
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  Speaker 3: take your throne. I don't see an upside to this.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any upside you can see?
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  Speaker 2: No one acts for this shit. No one acts for this.
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  Speaker 2: No one. No one wants to see this shit. No
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  Speaker 2: one acts for it. Keep that shit away from us.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to see Shakur Stevenson at this stage
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  Speaker 2: of his career. fight a guy like Manny, but there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing he gains from the outside of making a boatload
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  Speaker 2: of money. There's nothing he gains from the fight. There's
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  Speaker 2: nothing we're going to learn about him in that fight.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing he's going to have to do to win
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  Speaker 2: this fight. Like, what the fuck are we doing? Excuse
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  Speaker 2: my language, but really, that even being a rumor is disgusting. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that is truly disgusting. Like, what are we doing? And
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  Speaker 2: the fact that he parades himself like he's the best
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  Speaker 2: boxer ever, and his resume is very weak, all things considered,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of wild. Like, He gets away with a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff because he's actually a good boxer, but
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  Speaker 2: his resume ain't that great. Now, he's still young in
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  Speaker 2: his career, so he has a chance to change that.
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  Speaker 2: But my God, for the stuff he does and the
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  Speaker 2: stuff he pulls off, it's annoying. Like, I mean, more
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  Speaker 2: than often than anything, even if he didn't start that
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  Speaker 2: rumor or even that rumor was started by somebody else,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that he even got legs makes it kind
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  Speaker 2: of stand. We show where you stand at with a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things. Why is it taking this long to
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  Speaker 2: make a fight? Why is it taking this long? You
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  Speaker 2: signed for Zufa. There's been a lot of rumors going along,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of contracts supposedly signed, not signed, whatever. This
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  Speaker 2: is getting to the point where I'm over it now.
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  Speaker 2: You fight when you fight. I'll catch the fight when
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  Speaker 2: it happens and move on because this is getting annoying. Agreed.
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  Speaker 3: And the thing about it is that people always say, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you're not going to get credit if you
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  Speaker 3: fight an older guy, this guy, blah, blah, blah. In
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  Speaker 3: this case, it's 100% true. Shakur gets no credit for
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  Speaker 3: beating Manny Pacquiao if he does. And at the worst
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  Speaker 3: case scenario... If he does win and doesn't dominate, goes
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  Speaker 3: the distance, which Shakur usually does, and probably will against
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  Speaker 3: a Pacquiao, you're just going to get clowned more and
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  Speaker 3: more for not being able to beat the old man. Like,
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  Speaker 3: it's a lose, lose, lose. Please, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: What the fuck is the point of this fight? Like,
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  Speaker 2: for real, like, at this time, I know May is
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  Speaker 2: still a draw, but that can't be right. That cannot
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  Speaker 2: be the reason. That can't. It can't be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah i mean here's the thing if manny needs it
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  Speaker 3: needs a paycheck it needs to come back you know
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  Speaker 3: like here's the thing i would take i would take
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  Speaker 3: uh manny versus floyd mayweather to you know 10 times
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  Speaker 3: on sunday before i wanted to see in the ring
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  Speaker 3: against fucking shakur stevenson uh you know everybody's got bills
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  Speaker 3: to pay and that's cool and he's a draw but
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  Speaker 3: there is a difference between you know, taking on a
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  Speaker 3: legendary fighter and challenging him and just also being in
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  Speaker 3: the ring with an old man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: That's what, that's what this is. And yeah, I agree
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  Speaker 3: with you. Yes, there are rumors, but I kind of
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  Speaker 3: feel the same way as you. The fact that this
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  Speaker 3: rumor is actually being discussed out there as a possibility
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  Speaker 3: is ridiculous. And, also funny, you said last episode, whoever
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  Speaker 3: Shakur fights, it's going to be a letdown. I never
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  Speaker 3: imagined it'd be this much of a letdown if this
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  Speaker 3: is what happens.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's ridiculous. He always claims people don't want to
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  Speaker 2: fight him. Some boxers, we do want to fight him.
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  Speaker 2: It's getting to the point where I'm over it. He's
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  Speaker 2: too good of a fighter to be doing all this.
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  Speaker 2: That's where I'm coming from. He's way too talented of
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  Speaker 2: a guy to be doing all this. At the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, if you sign to Zufa but you
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  Speaker 2: don't have no control over your career, this is getting annoying.
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  Speaker 2: We want to see you fight. You taught a great game.
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  Speaker 2: You're a hell of a skill fighter. But why does
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  Speaker 2: it take this long to make a fight? Why? Something's
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  Speaker 2: not adding up. I'm sorry. It doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I would imagine it's the be-all, end-all is
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  Speaker 3: that to make as much money out of Shakur for
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  Speaker 3: everybody possible, both with Dana White and Zufa and the Saudis,
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  Speaker 3: et cetera, to get as much out of this kid
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  Speaker 3: as they possibly can. But this isn't the right way
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  Speaker 3: to do it. You know, the kid needs to get
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  Speaker 3: back in the ring and keep building his resume and
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  Speaker 3: keep showing that he is the best. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: bigger fights will come. Hunger challenges will come. This is
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  Speaker 3: just kind of like it really does feel like a
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  Speaker 3: quick cash grab. Here's the thing. If Shakur Stevenson took
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  Speaker 3: a Manny Pacquiao fight and then retired and everybody was
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  Speaker 3: like got paid for a dumb fight, like this is
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  Speaker 3: the avenue you would take.
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  Speaker 2: So that's not a big money fight like that, though.
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  Speaker 2: You're not fighting out of Legion or any football. I
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  Speaker 2: don't get it. I'm missing something. I don't think he's
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  Speaker 2: going to fight Manny. First, I don't think that's even
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  Speaker 2: going to happen. But the fact that he even has
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  Speaker 2: some legs is ridiculous. But he literally, it's not even
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  Speaker 2: a big draw. I don't know, man. I'm befuddled. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to keep an eye on. We've talked for
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  Speaker 3: weeks and weeks about how we're excited to see Shakur's
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  Speaker 3: next fight and what he's really going to do. And
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  Speaker 3: if this is the case, I'm sorry, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: be talking a lot of shit.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I won't watch. There's no need to watch. I
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  Speaker 2: don't do exhibition matches. Why would I watch him fight
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  Speaker 2: somebody that's down there at 50? Why? 100%.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Let's just kind of... We put our thoughts out there
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  Speaker 3: and let's just see what happens in the time, but
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  Speaker 3: we'll be keeping an eye out. But let's just say
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  Speaker 3: that If this is the case, we're both going to
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  Speaker 3: be really upset about it. But another fight that let's
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  Speaker 3: say we weren't asking for, but maybe somebody out there
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  Speaker 3: who was asking for really wants is Joshua versus Fury.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they at first they were talking about putting
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  Speaker 3: it in Las Vegas. Now it was announced for December
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  Speaker 3: in Cardiff, Wales. And that makes definitely more sense. Neither
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  Speaker 3: of us, neither you or I, please tell me if
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  Speaker 3: I'm wrong, we don't care about this, about this fight.
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  Speaker 3: We don't really have, but I will say there is
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  Speaker 3: a chance that British boxing fans are losing their mind
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  Speaker 3: over finally getting this after being talked about for a
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  Speaker 3: decade or more.
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  Speaker 2: It's another fight that happened too late. Like that's the
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  Speaker 2: first thing. And also secondly, normally fights over there happen
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  Speaker 2: at odd times of the day. So I think England's
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  Speaker 2: like either eight or 10 hours ahead of us. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to bed late to watch that or
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  Speaker 2: waking up early to watch that. Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm, you know, Eddie Hearn keeps saying, oh, the
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  Speaker 3: biggest fight in British boxing, the biggest fight. And you
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  Speaker 3: know what? Here's the thing. That might actually be, I
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  Speaker 3: think that says more about British boxing than anything else.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And, and you know, they just announced it. Apparently it
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  Speaker 3: might still be in jeopardy because according to Eddie Hearn,
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  Speaker 3: Dana White's involved. They want them. The Saudis are pushing
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  Speaker 3: him to be a promoter. He doesn't like it. AJ
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  Speaker 3: doesn't like it. It's a, it's too much of a
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  Speaker 3: shit show. We're talking too much about what's happening outside
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  Speaker 3: of the ring and outside of, you know, the boxers and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, their training promotion, et cetera. But also it
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  Speaker 3: does kind of seem to keep feeling like keep trying to,
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  Speaker 3: Saudis want to just plug in Dana White when nobody
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  Speaker 3: else wants him there. And I was like a friend group.
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  Speaker 3: And all of a sudden the guy just starts bringing
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  Speaker 3: his annoying cousin around. And you're like, I don't, why,
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  Speaker 3: why is this guy here?
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  Speaker 2: Always.
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  Speaker 3: Plus, And in this metaphor, that friend is the Saudis,
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  Speaker 3: who we didn't really want in the friend group in
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  Speaker 3: the first place, let's be honest. We kind of just said, fine,
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  Speaker 3: we'll let you hang out. But yeah, it just seems
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  Speaker 3: too much grab ass for something that could have been
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  Speaker 3: so easily done. If the British boxing public really wanted
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: Fury versus Joshua so badly, why is it taking so
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: long to just announce it and get it done and
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: put it on our screens you know what's with the
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: back and forth i don't get it i.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Don't get it i truly don't get it it's not
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: making any sense at all i truly don't.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: Get it yeah so um now i don't really have
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: a lot to say about that fight specifically because you
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: know because that will happen and yeah if if it's
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: like on i guess it might probably be on like
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: 10 a.m 11 a.m on a saturday and if i
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: remember i'll i'll watch and see the other card but
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: There was another rumor that if this falls apart, that
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: Tyson Fury could potentially fight David Benavidez. And it's just,
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: I told you, this news just gets stupider and stupider.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: I was looking at the group chat and I'm like,
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: what are we doing? Benavidez is like another guy that
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: shouldn't be doing something like this. He said he might
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: fight it at heavyweight. I think, I don't know what
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: it was, like four or five years from now when
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: he spends time in cruiserweight. This feels like just, Just
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: putting a square peg in a round hole.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: They're throwing things at the wall to try to pull
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: the sticks, but that fight's not happening either. There's no way.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, especially because Benavidez, right now the best
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: thing for him is to try to go for undisputed
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: or cruiserweight. And he's got, you know, possibly the fight
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: against J.O. Pattaya in May. But yeah, if this Fury
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: thing and Joshua falls through, does that mean they would
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: replace him with Benavidez in December? That's ridiculous.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: No, he's not fighting him. He's not. Because it doesn't
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: make sense. Like, he's upstate of his career where that
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. Like, he's in the prime of his career.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: He's at the end, absolutely, right? But, no, because also weight-wise, too,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: he's at, like, 180-ish or, like, 180 or 175, 180-ish.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: He'd have to go up to mess with Fury to
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: over 200. Now, his body supports that kind of thing,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: but fighting... What happens when you get the ring at
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: that weight? And then what happens to your power when
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: you move up? There's a lot of questions, but I
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: would be surprised if that fight happened.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Benavidez should be. I think he came in 180
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: at his last fight around there, hovering around there. Another thing, too,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: putting out there a Benavidez versus Fury doesn't feel much
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: different than taking an Usyk and a Fury and having
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: them fighting an MMA guy. No disrespect to Benavidez. I
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: just mean how much sense it doesn't make to be
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: doing that.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: And, and really for Benjamin is, you know, I'm not
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: a big fan of Tyson Fury as a fighter. I
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: think his, his fame comes more from fighting people that
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: just weren't great competition as opposed to him being great himself.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I'll say that. But at the same time, you know,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: that's not somebody that you just throw somebody in a
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: ring with who hasn't fought at heavyweight for a while.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: No man's like seven, five or whatever the hell. But yeah,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: like if, Let's say this. If Benavidez wanted to fight
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Tyson Fury and that's something that could be made to happen,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: my man needs to keep fighting cruiserweight, hit heavyweight, fight
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: some tuna fights, and really kind of build his way
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: up to that. Just in terms of just what a massive,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: gigantic slab of meat Fury is. And we got some...
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I looked this up. It appears that Benavidez came in
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: at 196.8 at the weigh-in against Zurdo Ramirez this May.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: So.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Not too much of an increase, but still. Yeah, that's
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: something that I've always said is that you can go
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: up in weight and make that next level, but it
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean you're going to be able to fight well
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: at it. But Crawford is the only one that I really, really,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: really had faith in going up two, three weight classes
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: to kick some ass. But we're talking about a whole
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: different type of guy.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: No disrespect to Benavidez. Fury might be 285 on fight night.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: You can't hear me. Even if Benavidez got the 210,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you're still talking about 67 pounds of weight. Like, no.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been like some chatter between the commentators. Like,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: should there be like a super heavyweight for guys that
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: are over 250? I'm not against that. I think that's
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: not a bad idea.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, they should. Absolutely. Especially nowadays.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and for those of you who don't know, who
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: are learning about boxing, the heavyweight weight class is 200 pounds.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And unlimited.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: There's no cap to that. You could be 201 and
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: fight a dude who's 400 pounds and that's like, that's allowed.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Fury's last fight was at 265 from his fight in
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: July of 2026. Anybody who wants to go heavyweight, they
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: definitely need to be in that higher level. You basically
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: need to treat the heavyweight class as being 250 and
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: then up, you know, times two. He came in 280,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: 281 against Usyk, which was his highest. So craziness. I just,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man. I feel like we had such
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: a really cool, fun summer of boxing. And then, you know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: all the news that was coming out was super exciting,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: new fights getting made, new matchups, blah, blah, blah. And
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: then now we're just talking about this crazy shit that's
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: just like, what what what happened in like a few
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: weeks time to the sport that i love so.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Much well a lot of stuff is bargaining stuff right
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: you know your negotiations so you're gonna put something out
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: there if you're currently negotiating and you need leverage you're
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: gonna throw something out there it may not make sense
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: but you're throwing stuff out there to make leverage just
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: get people talking to try to get things to gain
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: more leverage. That's all. That's all.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and definitely things have slowed down, at least for U.S. fighters,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: or at least fights in the U.S., I should say,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: because this weekend there's fights in London, there's a couple
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: of fights in different parts of the country, like Orlando,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: no disrespect, but it's not a fight capital or anything
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: like that. And a lot of names that I don't
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: personally recognize. But yeah, October 17th we got.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Sebastian Fundora returning for the TNT monthly fight, and then
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: we got Canelo maybe October 31st. Just before I came
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: on to the mic, Canelo put the fight on his
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: official Instagram. We mentioned that there was talks about it
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: being delayed because of the war in Iran, but I
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: don't know. There seems to be no signs of waiting
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: to see what happens.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: It's going to be there in the next month this time.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: It's scheduled, so It's all systems go. It's going to
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: be marketed a certain way. The tickets are very cheap
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: from what I saw, but I don't see anyone here
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: from going. I don't know how that works, but yeah. Yeah.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: The thing that would suck the most is moving forward
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: with October 31st and then the week before canceling everything
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: because of concerns with global affairs. I believe the State
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Department is already telling people not to go anywhere near
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: the region.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: It would not surprise me if it ended up getting moved.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: So they wouldn't cancel it. They would just move it
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to Submarina in Vegas or something like that. They would
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: just move it last minute. That's all. Well, yeah. Sorry.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: When I say I just meant changing the day before,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: you know, the week before.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they would just change the video. They would just
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: move it here because there's a venue open. It may
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: not be T-Mobile. There's a venue open that weekend if
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: they needed to. If they had to do it, they
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: can figure something out last minute if they have to.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: And, you know, on a personal note, you know, this
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: fight is supposed to be Canelo versus Mbili October 31st,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: which is Halloween, which is great. But also, man, I'm
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: trying to be out, you know, in a costume getting
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: drunk as hell downtown that night. It's going to be
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: harder to go to watch the fight or go out
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: for the fight and then come back down to Fourth Avenue.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: But it just it would make my life easier if
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: they postponed it to November. Actually, it would have made
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: my life easier if they kept that shit in September
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: like they were supposed to. But yeah, but hey. You know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: we wanted to keep this episode short. I just wanted
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: to talk a little, give our opinions on the news here. But, yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: we're officially in October. You know, welcome to spooky season.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be figuring out my scary movie playlist
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: after this. But, yeah, we're going to be talking a
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: lot about the news this coming week. So, Jameson, where
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: can people find you on social media?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: On Twitter at TheJamesonMovement. Before I bounce, we got Hitchens
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: versus Keyshawn Davis.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, you got to add that in. That's
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: a big fight. for a lot of, for both guys
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: who've done a lot of stuff off the ring and whatnot,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: we don't see who's who. That's gonna be an interesting fight.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: It's not like a career maker or a career buster,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: but it's going to be a fight that I think
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Hitchens should be the favorite in that fight when he
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: gets kind of official, but that's the fight that I
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: look forward to watching the most.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: A hundred percent, especially if Keyshawn ups them bullshit again.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: You know, we've already talked a lot about how I
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: wanted to be, I wanted to be the biggest Keyshawn
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: fan in the world and he just makes it harder
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: and harder. But, uh, No, I think this is a
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: perfect test for Hitchens. I think this is one of
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: the most anticipated fights for the next several months. So, yeah, absolutely.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: So we'll be keeping up with that and talking more
• 23:32
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