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Mysterial: Avowed, James Bond Goes to Amazon & Elder Scrolls VI · Multiple Nerdgasm

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just want to make sure everyone's ready before we start a recording I think
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that's only fair ow ow you're not ready okay apparently you're not ready well I
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was ready until this little monster started biting me why are you biting me
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all the time he told you before no teeth not
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teeth it's not nice doesn't feel nice ow
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all right hands away no hands and no no
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headphones now no hands no teeth
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it hasn't gone it's a lot to ask
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really mhm but what do I know some not to ask some wi know you picked up on the
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side of the Great Western Highway but yeah you knowless she's broken my
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headphones I can only hear out of one ear No Hands no teeth yeah I
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know she doesn't have any
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teeth I removed good night
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Dar welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things
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nerdy I've just been watching Rick and Morty night after night [ __ ] how has
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this happened I know I know and when it's dumb when it's really dumb I'm so
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aware that it's dumb and I just don't I just don't care CU When it's funny it's just so
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funny everyone was obsessed with this
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when was this show on I think
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on I not it matters but yeah yeah oh yeah I'm late to the party I'm not like
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a guys check out this new show I'm just like this thing that I was always aware
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of I've just started finally watching
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2013 oh okay [ __ ] looking at this cast I'm like I recognize some of these
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people cast is incredible it's got what's her name from Scrubs in it s yeah
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yeah she's a she's a main character she's an every y yeah really also from
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Rosanne yes oh yes they swwa over the daughter for a little while just that
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one one season of Rosanne right or a couple of Seasons couple of Seasons oh
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and then her
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too interesting oh yeah that guy cool
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it's it's like future armor in that it's clearly written by people that love
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science fiction and it just lets every
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sci-fi thought experiment play out in its absurd entirety
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sure all right I might watch it I promise nothing I'm probably not going
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to I'll be honest yeah if any if either of you going to watch it I'd say you
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should watch it Luke yeah yeah and we can just be Rick and Morty buddies
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without Matt because he's he's never going to jump on this
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bandwagon that's what looks like it's oh Luke
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Luke Rick and Morty cosplay you and me
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[Laughter] buddy okay this is sort of weird so I'm
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trying to look at like how many seasons there are mhm the number yeah I yeah I
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amdb says there's 12 but there's only seven seasons of episodes oh I think there's some
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specials that they count no no it's sort of like season 12 episode what I think
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it's just the fact that they've they've been signed on to create more right so
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it's already listed yeah I thought they were only seven seven available to me
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anyway the high seas yeah that's right look I'm not saying everyone has to rush out and
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watch this I'm just I'm just happily living my life reading books of the new
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son by Jee wolf during the day I'm up to book five now and at night just [ __ ]
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watching Rick and Morty look I'm a middle-aged man I watch Jack Ryan
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Reacher the new seasons I haven't watched it yet but uh oh you know what
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I'll be watching some more of both of those shows are on Amazon you know who
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else is on Amazon now oh yeah who [ __ ] James Bond Mr Mr Jimmy Bond
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jimothy bond has been uh well they already owned yeah he's already own
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Amazon but now they can make their own yeah the broccolis have said you know
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what [ __ ] it yeah yeah well they've said yeah we'll take the billion dollarars
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yeah take the billion so for a long time James Bond has been
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creatively controlled by the broccoli
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family right uh who are relatives of fan Fleming is that correct I don't know if
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they're how they get no no I think Albert Bry was the producer of Dr no I
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think he just was smart back in the 60s and and and then just had it and it's
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always been his and now his daughter's taken over oh so it's just in film and
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yeah I believe interesting unless they unless it was
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like a complete buyout when they bought the it so they okay James Bond
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Jr presume they must have not just the show but also the the Master System game
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yes yeah so every time something comes up with there's going to be a new Bond
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there's going to be a new Bond film they had complete creative control over
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everything so they could yes they could veto a decision to on an actor or or
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anything like that was their thing and now they've said you know what fine Amazon can do
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it Amazon will do it everyone is leaking
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their James Bond auditions on online now did we talk about some of we just do
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going to leak mine now yeah yeah cuz it was the famous one of Sam
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Neil cuz Sam Neil read for it and didn't get it over I think Timothy Dalton it
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must have been back in the day that would been that time yeah oh would have
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been [ __ ] fantastic fantastic and he even said he goes I didn't really oh
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yeah he was excellent but it wasn't Timothy Dalton's fault that he got canned after
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two but Cav's popped up popped up um well the same week that
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Cav's popped up [ __ ] Sam worthington's popped up from the same
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era did it right yes not even trying not even trying which which is his style of
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acting I will say I'm bonded they're people who I would not see as
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Bond Cav you can't see caval no God no it's a movie what if it was a TV series
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TV series we could talk well I'll probably do some now yeah
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they probably will yeah they will pump out some James Bond content for sure oh
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and uh Anthony star his audition in that same round has come out as well and he's
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not bad yeah he's not bad yeah
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I mean I like him as homelander and we probably wouldn't have got it yeah
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otherwise so R the other one who's come out the same time so there's just a little bunch
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of leaked they so who knows what's going to happen with Bondo now um well we can
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assume we'll be getting a lot more of him yeah lots is going to happen we can
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also assume it'll happen sooner rather than later because you're not going to
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spend a billion dollars on a property and then not rush straight into it and
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you know I know there's a there mixed feelings about Amazon at times but I got
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to say the shows they've done are pretty good oh yeah just Just Jack
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Reacher Jack Reacher Jack Ryan uh just Jack Jack Jill
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Jack it's James Bond it's Jack Bond have
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to change his name but yeah I believe no they've done well rings of power is
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doing it right I haven't I haven't watched rings of power Mr Robot tried
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twice wasn't it Mr robot's certainly on Amazon maybe it wasn't originally uh man
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in the High Castle was Amazon mhm yes it was yeah yeah because Amazon got in a
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lot of trouble from putting SW stickers on the subway that's
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right was for art [ __ ] good
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show yeah so at first I was like oh God and then I thought well they seem to
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have some good people over there yeah someone's going to do it yeah exactly
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someone has to oh it's going to be one of these big
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companies yeah you see my version some yeah I watch Luke's version what would
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your version be did you did you pitch the broccolis to give no no maybe that's
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my problem he pitched them less than a billion dollars I think it was was why
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he yeah there would be no money attached with me what's your pitch yeah so
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there's no money what's creatively what are you going to do see what
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happens we're going we're going back to the the more funny version not the silly
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there's going to be comedy again get back to the gadgets and stuff and then I
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don't know some villain tries to kill the world or something M and Bon stops
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him well what do you need you should write that down yeah yeah yeah what
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about Jeff Bezos tries to take over the James Bond franchise and only Rahul can stop
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it I'd watch that yeah who would not want to watch
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that movie Just pitched it there you go off feel in the rest later what I love
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is that every time you hear that an English actor is considered for bond
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that it turns out to be a rumor they're suddenly in some other spy or secret
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agent show you know sure
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yeah was that was remember not long ago there was like it was absolutely certain
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that that guy from kickass and NOS was going to be it was him was Bond and then
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it just was him he was on the rise up and then I
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don't just stopped maybe they heard that he had already SED a craving the Hunter
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and they were like oh that's right that's the other one he's in no but I
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think that's on his way down yeah I think he took that because he didn't get bonded
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yeah well he must have shot that a while before the rumors right you would think
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yeah cuz it was around the same time maybe they saw CRA the hunter yeah I've
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seen Craven the Hunter and I can say it didn't look like they put a lot of time
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into it no no didn't re- shoots no need we've got a
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photo have you seen Molly [Laughter]
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grubs oh
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God saw with mly nobody
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has uh um in other big movie news there's a
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picture of Matt Damon in Christ 's Odyssey and I mean it's not that
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exciting but looks good does he look B
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looks like a guy in uh in a hoplight helmet yes
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right what is what I yeah yeah that's right so yeah I'm down for that not um
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not particularly stylistic or anything just as in like let look like it's
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it looks realistic it doesn't look like it's it doesn't look like Matt Damon to
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me I'm trying to put my finger on who I think it looks
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like H don't know just um take a Le out of Neil gamon's book if you're going to
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put your finger on someone just make sure you have their enthusiastic [Laughter]
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consent who does it look like I don't know have we seen him with a beard is
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that why it might be you beard never seen him with a beard but it [ __ ]
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looks great that's a good point I don't know I've seen him with a with gray hair
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too I think I mean I mean you could only see it in the bed
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but I mean he probably had a beard in one of the born movies at some point
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when he was when he was uh depressed or whatever I've got to say those were
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really good I liked those oh yeah and Matt if you didn't like them before
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you're you're right right in the spotlight for them now I did like no I did like them
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yeah yeah well guy wakes up with no memory of who he is discovers as he goes
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along as his secret agent I I actually I watched a really good
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uh like YouTube essay on how that movie would be better like it's it's still a
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great movie but this guy's like humble opinion is that it would be better if
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they didn't intercut with the with the agency stuff early on and you just found
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out not know who he was you just saw him figure out why can I [ __ ] disarm
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people and dismantle the gun and and have you seen the long kiss good night
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that's kind of is with uh I know it's
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got Samu Gina Davis yeah same thing she just housewife and then she's like
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chopping carrots one day and she's like [ __ ] flipping the knife around she's
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like why can't I do that when did I learn that that's cuz cuz the way the
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born just the born identity the first one is right now is that every time he
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does something they cut to them and they go yeah he's a secret AG he's really
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good at doing that thing that he just did like we didn't need that like just
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cut that out and later on in the movie Reveal and then you go oh that's what
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he's doing yeah I wonder if cuz that certainly sounds like the kind of thing
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that a director would put in their first cut that they would show a studio that
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the studio would say but no one's going to know a secret agent [ __ ] tell us
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right at the start just put a scroll up saying by the way he a secret agent lost
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at se cuz that's they pull him out and they get him on the boat and they're
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like who is he and then why is he kicking everybody's butt and then it
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cuts like where that Secret Agent Man that we lost in the ocean he's been
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retrieved on a boat and he doesn't know who he is oh
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okay were there more than three I think I've seen three of those I think there's
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there's more than three I think there might even be more than that cuz I think
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there's there's ones without Jeremy Rena I've seen
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that but I I it's been a while but I still hold that right up until the third
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one they're all just as good as one another like I really thought they
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didn't lose steam as went along there's five five born identity the born
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Supremacy the born ultimatum the born legacy which is the one with Rena and
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then Jason Bourne yep who's in that back to back Matt
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Damon oh D there is a Damon one I haven't seen okay that's from 2016 I was
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like it's a recent one it's not recent I'm old almost 10 years
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old I might watch these oh it's got Vincent Castle in it
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oh well I look forward to your review of all five movies next week cuz next week
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I don't think that's going to happen I've got three two two more seasons of
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Jack Ryan and uh and the new season of
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reach um evidently the guy from Reacher
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is quite a hardcore chistian in real life um but apparently he's getting a
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lot of flack from the Christian right because uh of the stuff he gets up to on
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screen sure and uh I don't think they
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realize that um that that's just acting right yeah saw inter's just getting up
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to that they're like all that unmarried sex he seems like a pretty cool dude to
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be honest I watched his I think we talked about this before he did cuz he's
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[ __ ] enormous you've seen youve seen what he looks like he did a men you know
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that Men's Health what's in my fridge thing and all that kind of stuff and he
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was like you guys are going to hate me cuz I just eat [ __ ] whatever I want
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um this is cookie dough I just eat the cookie dough and like he's he's like I
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don't know because he just works out so much I just put food in and then lift
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Waits and then I look and this happens and it's like [ __ ]
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you it was really funny yeah he was like very just casual and he seems Seems cool
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but yeah so interview he addressed that and he said um yeah I'm an actor I don't
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really do that stuff like yeah but I think I think the other side is they're
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not no I don't think they believe it's real I think they they're upset because
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glorifying it yeah yeah and I did I think I've mentioned before the tone of
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that show is a little weird like yeah in a in a fun way but it but it is it's
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like a serious uh I guess you know crime ESPN type show but it's got some like
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goofy zany bits in it too that kind of when I watched the first season I was
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like wasn't expecting that that kind of
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jokey right thing to happen okay now you just let it wash over mhm I've gotten
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yeah I've gotten the hang of the they take it away you'll be
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upset yes yeah it's it's over the top but in a in a good way it's eny Jack
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Ryan's very serious whereas re goes a little bit goofy as well have a bit of
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fun with it well he's a bit of a comedian as well so who is the guy in
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rro oh the guy the actor the act the actor yes m like I think the first thing
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I saw was um Blue State or something it's a football television
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show and it's just about the football is just having sex all the time with women and drugs
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and Drug women and drugs I'd have sex with
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[Laughter] drugs maybe that old saying sex drugs and rock and roll there's only one comma
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and it's between drugs and rock and roll you know it's just like sex drugs and rock and
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roll um you guys I think have both been playing something that I haven't had a
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chance to but I want to hear about it I don't want to hear too much about the
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plot or anything but don't worry I can't tell you a thing about the plot yeah
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okay I was talking to cuz I was like oh I might have to do some
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reading oh it's one of those maybe I need to play pillars before I understand
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this but no it's it's is it avowed or unavowed avow avow
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avowed why don't I think it was unavowed what's is a game too is a game yeah but
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no this one it's unrelated this is not the sequel or prequel but like I is the
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point and click adventure game that's right okay but yeah when I'm saying like
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that I couldn't tell really tell you the story the story is pretty
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straightforward there's this mysterial mysterious disease coming over the land
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and mysterial you right mysterial write that down
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and you're sent out to investigate oh okay and then you run in
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and yeah you kill lots of things that's pretty much it
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right it's and the story of it is your story of you just doing things because
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it's like Skyrim and you just it's not quite um it's a little bit
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more on the rails than Skyrim okay well that's not a bad thing necessarily no
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yeah yeah yeah yeah like out of Worlds was yeah it's exactly like that yes
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that's a good a good comparison um it's
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[ __ ] beautiful really like it's just beautifully designed cuz when I first
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saw the visuals for this I was like oh I don't know about that the multicolors
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yeah yeah same I feel like the trailers didn't sell that but it works in the
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game yeah yeah right honestly it's like if somebody it's like it's like a little
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kid saw Skyrim and said oh no one's colored in this coloring
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and their crayons like when Cliffy be saw quake and was like you know what
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this needs colored lights yeah uh yeah
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it's it's very well it's more like what I thought maybe um bolers gate might be
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but not that I've played it but you know that it's just it's just more kind of
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your typical fantasy your kind of Tolen esque fantasy sure um rather than just
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you know snowy north right and and like diverse landscape
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well I'm not so diverse yet but I'm only in the first or second it does change a
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littleit but yeah I haven't gotten too far I think I'm in the second third map
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really more diverse characters than Skyrim and I don't mean like that
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there's a trans I to say person of color I mean like you'll be govern not going
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to shut down this game yeah you'll just start talking to this like w wiggly worm
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guy or whatever you know like Wily wor full fantasy I'm just you know
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spe the name of the species in the game but yeah it's like when you're playing
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like there are sort of characters Side characters but you're not getting
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sidetracked as much as you would in Skyrim like you're not wandering off
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it's the very much go here do that go here do that it's you get all your
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missions basically from the town and then you go out you kill everything you
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come back then you eventually progress forward to another area maybe it's a bit
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more like Witcher in that way oh yeah you know there's yeah I
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don't know it's uh it's good I like it it's not you know how Skyrim has that
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Ambiance the music and just the pace of it just you can just get hypnotized by
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it and you can just [ __ ] it doesn't have
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that so it's not similar in that way but it's just you know if you love Fantasy
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games and you can't wait six more years for ilder Scrolls six then just play
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this it's very good yeah this this will be over until Elder Scroll 6 and I'm
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looking that long this is making me look forward to Elder Scroll 6 more
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because I'm thinking it's going to look better well I bet they've throwing in
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the bin now I bet they've gone oh oh this looks great [ __ ] start again Ask is
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the inventory revolutionary in this game why were people talking about the
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inventry ab it's fine perfectly fine it's a whole article written about it
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mate it's the same as just about any other game yeah that's
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whe to grab things go into your menu to to like swap out your armor and stuff I honestly
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think they were just struggling to find something to write about yeah it could
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be yeah you know what I've noticed a weird thing on um Kotaku and I'm sure I
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know why they do it cuz they want people to click on things but Kotaku is like
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game news and stuff and then occasionally film news if it's nerdy
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adjacent you know like if they'll do Star Wars thing or whatever and they
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talked about the the bond thing but then every now and then just a
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random I this are my RSS feed to be fair maybe they do this all the time I just
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don't see them just every now and then I'll scroll by and it'll be like how to
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solve the [ __ ] egg puzzle in this game or whatever oh and it's like what's
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that doing in there like how to get the you know like some there was a couple
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for um the uh great circle there just how to solve this puzzle in the great
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circle but just some random puzzle in yeah Indiana Jones and the Circle I
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don't know why kak does yeah no no content today it's a slow news day
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somebody just in we've AI has detected people are having trouble with this
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puzzle let's write an article about it so we can get some clicks I'm assuming
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that's what it is speaking of Indiana Jones though they finally released a
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patch and I can jump across that Gap I I jumped across just to see if it
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worked and then I started playing AOW again yeah okay it's got to take me a
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little while to get back into Indiana Jones cuz while I was loving it beenin
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months I got to go back and I guess a it wait I'm just lucky that it came out
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during the week I had of holidays from work like I just played it every day it
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was amazing yeah something that's happened to me before
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where it was just a period where just because of what I cuz Jenna went away to
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Vermont or whatever and I was here and I just just had like time to play it was
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like very fortuitous Fortune Glory yeah
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cuz I tried to Pop um to pop a vow on my
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absolute and I'm like I'm wasting the visuals looking on a 7 in screen like
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I'll just wait till now one's time and play it on the TV again yeah that's why
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I don't know we talked about this briefly you know with Indiana Jones you
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could put it in the widecreen mode yeah but playing it on my oh g-cloud I was
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like I've got there's a screen at the top and the bottom that I'm not
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utilizing and the screen so small that I turn that mode off I turned it off
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anyway because I found the WID screen looks great this the the cut scenes the
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cinematics but just turning in that huge wide it just felt like I was had way too
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wide a lens on my camera or something you know it just wasn't wasn't right
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even though I understand why it was there and my my heart said I should be
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playing it in in scope but I just couldn't do it it just doesn't work it's
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it looks great appropriate but confusing y yeah cuz the film isn't shot in first
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person if you if anybody doesn't doesn't know that yeah well you know what's
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funny AOW you can play in first person or third person third person oh sticking
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it to city project red well even though like my character looks so [ __ ]
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awesome I'm playing this in first person Luke are you or are you yeah it just
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works better just feels better yeah it feels right to do it to do it that way
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what reason why I think it it feels better that way is cuz your attacks are
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slow I feel when you're playing a third person game you feel you're used to
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attacking faster yeah yeah I'm going to try to use magic in this too I'm going
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to try cuz I always end up playing Fantasy games just [ __ ] with the
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biggest sword I can and just slashing through things so I'm going to really
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try but I love it like you have to have a book like you have to you know you
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cast spells so you like literally got a sword in your right hand and your left
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hand you're holding a book Going H hold on one thing one thing you need to do is
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you need to make sure to upgrade your weapons and spells cuz that the the
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monsters the things that you're fighting they don't level up with you it's they
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are just that level so if you're not leveling up your armor things it's very
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hard and that way when you go back if you go go back to clean up a mission in
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past world map it becomes super easy because you'll that's the thing people
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always say they want and and I think um Bethesda is often like you actually
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don't I don't think you do want that so now I guess proof is in the proof is in
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AOW we'll see yeah cuz you you you basically you can upgrade the same
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weapon like two or three times like you upgrade it from standard to to the next
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level there's always a limit to how yeah yeah okay it makes difference the last
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Elder Scrolls that had set level creatures was morrowwind right in
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Oblivion they they scaled them and people were like what what are you
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doing cuz part of the fun of morrowwind was that you could wander off to a place
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with [ __ ] monsters that would just kill you but you could try and maybe you
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could pull it off like yeah yeah if you ran just right
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maybe they would fan out enough that you could just fight them one at a time yeah
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I get this sword instant kills everything
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yeah yeah oh cool oh I have to check it out maybe well the good thing played
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Oblivion enough oh okay and I wish that
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I I never I finished Oblivion never finished Skyrim play Skyrim
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[ __ ] hour for weeks probably total day total game time Skyrim I've
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accidentally finished Skyrim a couple of times yeah SK the main story just just
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ends if you if you do enough of the main mission suddenly they go congratulations
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on yeah sorry I wasn't me I wasn't trying to do that I was trying to do
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this other thing and oh okay but there's so much like as far as
28:23
I know scym never ends like people are still finding stuff in it yeah is there
28:28
anybody who's like I have exhausted it don't
28:34
know I know there's people still playing it that yeah like that Granny play as I
28:39
can't keep doing this guy something or
28:43
it's getting boring yeah yeah yeah yeah I still got to finish Phantom
28:49
Liberty uh I do want to do that it's good I might just um try and
28:54
focus on the story line just cuz I do want to experience it but yeah it's so
29:00
hard to get so easy to get distracted yeah cuz cyber Punk again is
29:04
huge and also because I started a new game and I I did the yes I want to level
29:09
up but it basically it skips you to it's done the the highest bit right at the
29:14
start of cyber Punk so you basically you begin in
29:19
um and and it it's completed the heist and it's completed a bunch of the voodo
29:23
boys stuff too so you start like it's I was quite pleased with where it put me
29:29
CU like oh I don't have to do that stuff again but the whole rest of the game is
29:33
still there yeah like right so calling to you like I think you the next thing
29:39
for the original main storyline of the game you have to go talk to um you know
29:43
takimura the the Japanese guy who ends up helping you oh it's been so long I
29:49
don't remember okay there's still [ __ ] infinite game available to
29:54
me so I just got to not get distracted I wish they had released it better so I
30:00
could have had the DLC earlier so I would have still remembered the
30:05
game I tried uh twice to play it as you well know and something else that I've
30:10
now tried three times to play and I think I'm just going to officially give
30:14
up on control I it's [ __ ] oh really
30:17
it's it's so tedious it's so tedious it's essentially a maze game with a
30:24
great backstory you just trying to find your way through this [ __ ] map and
30:31
the thing and that's why I keep saying like you need to sit down and honestly
30:34
just that's the only game you play Just bores me it bores me the second once you
30:39
learn you want from a game once you learn the map and where to go it's
30:43
actually quite simple but if you stop playing and you come back how the hell
30:47
do I get there again and cuz it's the map's not useful the signs sometimes
30:53
help but yeah I've I've actually found out paying attention to the science is
30:58
much more useful than opening the map the map can be [ __ ] confusing um you
31:04
just treat it like you were just in a building and you'd like where's the suck
31:07
sign for the toilets um it helps and I like the setting I like the kind of
31:12
corporate setting but for so long I was doing the [ __ ] janitor Mission so I
31:15
was down in the [ __ ] with the the furnace and all that I'm like oh this is
31:19
so it's awful it's awful maybe wait for the
31:25
sequel I want to know what happens though but I'm like how much more game
31:29
have I got so much probably probably a
31:32
lot can watch a video Yeah y I think I'm going to do that there are solutions for
31:38
those problems I was thinking of watching One For the Rest of quantum
31:40
break I just don't know that I'm going to have time to finish it but I was I
31:45
did find the story quite interesting so I watched the opening cinematic to
31:49
Quantum break this week because I considered playing it when I was bard of
31:55
control but I was still on a remedy kick yeah and [ __ ] they they just [ __ ] go
32:00
by the way here's the [ __ ] story yeah [ __ ] yeah all the stuff's happening
32:03
okay now now you play
32:05
Go time machine yeah yeah definitely
32:11
throws you in there um speaking of Elder SC six we have not heard of Elders not
32:16
heard of heard about it much in the past few years there was an E3 a long time
32:22
ago where they announced it went quiet they showed a little a little graphic
32:28
but they have now um it's been it's come up again and you
32:32
can uh there a charity auction pre uh
32:38
there a charity auction to um and you get to be an NPC in the game if you
32:44
win so if you want to be in Elder Scroll
32:48
six give some money to charity it take an arrow to the
32:52
knee it does make me feel like they're getting maybe closer to it if they're
32:56
looking at putting in random stuff now I mean I've back
33:02
running out of money that said they put me in the game and then there's just no game
33:06
so cuz they took that money and did something else with it I find it hard to
33:10
believe that they're running out of money oh I'm yeah yeah
33:15
yeah oh okay so the top bid what was okay what is the top bid currently let's have a
33:22
look uh oh is it already
33:25
finished do we have May already
33:29
finished never mind uh I found out how far away you are from finishing control
33:35
Dan it's a long way isn't it it's a very long way you have completed mission
33:39
three oh yeah yeah I'm going to 10 YouTube okay so the the the top bid at
33:46
the moment for for for this is uh is
33:51
$48,750 okay so if you have 50 Grand to spare and you want to be in the Elder
33:56
scr six and the thing is the crazy thing that sounds like a real bid I I mean it
34:02
is yeah but you know how like whether they'll actually pay it yeah sounds like
34:07
you're not making this up man no no no what I mean is that sounds like a sense
34:12
will be that someone is actually going to pay a lot of times stuff gets run up
34:15
to hundreds of thousand oh pledging and giving are the same to
34:21
[Laughter] me they're not did you actually give
34:27
them the money I pledged the money yeah but did you actually give anyone the
34:31
money I've said it I've said 10 times now that I pledged it yeah we know
34:36
yeah at the time of this article it was 11,000 and I was like oh okay no it's 50
34:42
now uh yeah I mean I'll be playing it as myself
34:47
anyway so you that's a good point always me when I play it yeah and game counted
34:54
myself maybe it be like in Conan Exiles when you finally find
34:58
and you're like oh there he is he's just at a bar oh oh that's right he's in it
35:02
isn't he yeah he is yeah can't do anything with I mean you can interact
35:06
with him but only on a very minial level he just says hello yeah yeah he wants
35:12
nothing to do with you he just want to sit and drink his drink in peace I've
35:16
done my I've done my stuff y go back to your set punched a camel
35:22
today um speaking of con and Exiles it's
35:25
good segue uh Dune awak ing made by the
35:29
same people uh comes out in May but only the PC version
35:34
unfortunately okay which I cannot not run on my PC I'll tell you
35:39
that um but that means we're closer to the Xbox version coming out presumably
35:46
and we get to find out if it's actually any good before we have to commit to it
35:49
yeah that's true that's true I did play that quick sand or what
35:54
there somebody somebody made like a dunesque um
35:58
oh yes I told you that looked terrible it was okay yeah it was all right I
36:04
played it for an hour I think I played it for an hour yeah on the switch it's
36:07
pretty pretty sparse on content but I mean that's the point of
36:13
June it's not a lot going on on oracus you know so I not that this is June I'm
36:18
sure they really didn't want to be sued definitely not I love this I'm just
36:22
reading the comments in this article as a K on xop fan I only have one question d
36:29
slider TR you don't get to see the dicks do you I've never seen a dick yeah I've
36:35
never seen a dick because I went to I know that's not
36:40
true I was facing the other [Laughter]
36:47
way I still reckon I can come over install that on your Xbox and then you
36:52
would get the dong Slaughter cuz it is put in my Xbox
37:01
um yeah no Dune Awakening looks cool I don't it's hard to tell it looks cool
37:08
but because it's a MMO Style game
37:13
yeah it's going to be hard to know for sure until I play it am I going to like
37:17
this or is it going to annoy me yeah with games like this it's it's really
37:21
comes down to what you make of it sometimes yeah oh yeah yeah C and Exiles
37:26
was fun yeah especially you know we had a server and all that kind of
37:32
stuff hopefully the servers for this are better uh better than yeah the issues we
37:37
had with the ones justt resetting every time yeah remember I've got some
37:42
followup oh yeah God the servers were [ __ ] garbage and there were no help
37:47
and I was paying for it and I they said oh yeah you have to just uh res reset
37:50
the server and I was like so lose all our [ __ ] stuff I was I'm not going to
37:55
do that I was like how about you refund me cuz that's ridiculous yeah yeah
37:59
yeah um when you talk about Conan I just automatically think of Minecraft which
38:04
is essentially the same game uh I I mentioned a couple of weeks ago uh slav
38:10
in Minecraft though depends how you play it yeah I've
38:15
always got my slave with me when I play it
38:19
so um that I saw Minecraft Lego at a friend's house right and Luke your
38:25
question was is it regular pieces layer bricks I'm sorry to say they're just
38:32
regular pieces and in fact since you put that in my head I saw it again and I was
38:37
like I'm really disappointed now like it just looks like something's made with
38:42
Lego but just not very well you know to have it be all all blocky but I must
38:48
say I had a look I went into my so this is listen to Grant it's his it's his
38:53
little boys he's got a couple and he's got them on display his toy room so I
38:58
went in and I moved it actually took a picture of it to show you and I didn't
39:03
move it back and then he came in to see what I was doing and he leaned on the
39:07
the table that I had put it on and it fell on the floor and shattered right I
39:13
was like I'm so sorry and literally this [ __ ] like six-year-old boy is like
39:18
picking up with piece of Lego going it's not your fault it's not your fault and
39:22
I'm like and and he's trying so hard like no kid tries to
39:28
like yeah make an adult feel better about the he's going do that now I get
39:33
to experience the joy of putting it together all over again [ __ ] hell be
39:38
like why did you do that yeah yeah why do you hate
39:46
me oh but you didn't send the photo
39:50
though no photo
39:53
yeah he couldn't get another one yeah
39:58
build it faster I need to take a
40:02
photo um another piece of game news console Wars are over according to Phil
40:09
Spencer that's the headline but the um the actual story is just that they're
40:13
not fussed about yeah beating Sony or whatever now and they're not worried
40:18
about games being exclusive so much sure they're not yeah okay all right whatever
40:23
well no they're not they they're pretty much releasing all exclusives on
40:27
PlayStation like they are just he says yeah because the quote here is what I
40:32
think is what we used to say too is why don't they want the money the quote is I
40:35
would love to make all the money for all the games that we ship right y yeah yes
40:39
that's what we used to say is like why don't why don't they want money because
40:42
they want people on the platform but they're not fussed about that and now
40:45
they're like okay just [ __ ] yeah because they as I said they're doubling
40:49
down on cloud being the way of the future there will be another console but
40:52
that's the way they're looking at it and when there's no
40:55
console there's no console War because and they're just preparing for
41:00
that I'm very excited as long as I get achievements if
41:07
achievements go away I will I'm coming for you Phil I feel like they can't do that at
41:14
this point I really don't think they can but CU didn't they was Xbox the first
41:20
platform to have them and then steam added them later yeah it's kind of their thing
41:25
yep 360 once loved at my achievements on
41:29
Steam no even every now and then I think I'll be playing a game and say you got
41:34
to collect a trading card card I was at one stage I was just giving all my cards
41:39
to Luke anyway that's yeah I was going to say that's and I accepted them cuz I
41:42
collect them for some reason then also with they because
41:47
they're there and you just that's your personality y I have an addictive
41:52
personality for stuff like that except I don't like trophies Sony's trophies
41:57
oh yeah just because they call it a trophy no because well I'm not getting
42:03
achievements when I'm getting them but then also if I now look if I was to play
42:06
Sony game and I get a trophy so yeah but I've got crap all trophies it doesn't
42:10
really matter oh least my a gamer score and right up there with the best in the
42:16
world yeah
42:21
yeah well I was telling somebody uh about your gamer score M and the lengths
42:27
you go to to maintain it and they're
42:32
like I that means nothing to know like I don't know I said I don't even know that he
42:39
en I was actually yes I was and I said yeah I don't know that he actually even
42:44
enjoys video games at this point currently 153 in the
42:49
world yeah you don't get to 153 for enjoying video games man yeah that's
42:54
right sacrifice he has to make
43:01
yes yes I was talking to my trainer and uh update it's going all right yeah yeah
43:08
how many how many abs have you got now count them I mean they're still
43:14
they're still concealed it's not like it's not going
43:17
well enough yet that I can tell but but Indie didn't have a six pack did
43:22
he no no so yeah he wasn't going for he didn't have a little pot belly like I
43:28
did the I've got to get rid of that yeah that's the hardest part to get
43:33
rid of though in my experience I've got B progress got I've got I've got muscles
43:39
I didn't well I probably had them before but I didn't know they were there before
43:42
now I can see them so the dick you can see the dick now yeah there it is yeah
43:48
he's been hiding down there fumbling around in the dark
43:53
yeah yeah it's going all right I saw a guy [ __ ] down at down at the beach
43:59
going back to the [ __ ] Beach summer in Australia Matt so that's why we're
44:02
always at the beach um I'm looking at the snow out my window thinking [ __ ] you
44:07
mate you talked about [ __ ] getting um
44:12
a r if you broke something of hers just now hypothetically so we we said to it
44:17
was last Sunday last Sunday said to haa what do you want to do today she said I
44:21
want to go on a picnic and we yeah okay great idea yeah um and you know it was
44:25
unplanned so we just whatever food was in the fridge and we went down to it's
44:30
not a beach it's the river it's the par river right there this you that's Beach
44:36
like that you can and you can swim and you know so we go down there we sit on
44:41
the the grass and eat the picnic and then she splashed around and stuff and we came
44:47
home had a great time didn't say word about anything then we get home and then
44:51
like literally just like five minutes before bed she's like you know I'm
44:55
really angry we didn't have that picnic and we're like what and we're like we
45:01
had a picnic today we went down to the beach she's like we didn't put a rug down mhm and
45:08
we're like what she's like so it wasn't a picnic like we like to be fair we've
45:13
got a rug in the car we have a picnic blanket that just stay didn't get it out
45:17
we didn't get it out because we didn't [ __ ] need it but she could have just
45:20
said at the time this is not a picnic and I would have gone back to the car
45:24
yeah anyway not the point point of the story is saw a dude there I'm just
45:29
[ __ ] I just look at dudes now at the beach and compare myself to them and I
45:34
get just can't help I become obsessed
45:39
um obsessed of looking at dudes just [ __ ] whenever they've got their
45:44
clothes off I just can't but it's true though and um but I saw this dude like
45:50
our age and just as chubby as me but more muscular and I was like oh yeah I
45:56
could I could kind of settle for that you know what I mean like if I just
45:59
couldn't lose this gut I could just keep building the shoulders until
46:04
proportionately they were bigger than the gut and then at least I'd have that
46:07
old timey Muscle Man physique well you got to remember like you look at the
46:14
coms you look at the strongest men in the world competitions they're not
46:19
musles no that's true they're B that's true yeah I watch this YouTube video
46:25
about how you know everyone says they're like physique goal is Brad Pit in fight
46:30
yeah and they're like it wouldn't cut it anymore if you were an actor these days
46:35
like if you were us sure but they showed him and they're like this guy is way too
46:40
small like he doesn't have bulging out pectorals and you know yeah yeah like
46:46
Chris Hemsworth like he's just huge or even like um what's that guy who's not
46:52
the rock who was in Baywatch and he's a Disney kid oh Zack Efron yeah
46:57
like he's got [ __ ] enormous yeah but he he said uh he had a lot of trouble
47:03
after that because to get like that was very difficult and uh he apparently has
47:09
ongoing health issues as a result of what he had to do to get like that and
47:13
also Tom Hardy said the same thing when he bued up for Bane he said he he not
47:18
that he regrets it cuz you know he did it for the movie and that kind of stuff
47:20
but he it has affected his health like I don't think
47:27
actors it's it's not healthy to what they're doing because it's not a
47:30
lifestyle for them it's you're going to do it for this so and you need to do it
47:34
very quickly yeah and it's so funny too because when did becoming a bodybuilder
47:39
be a prerequisite for being an actor sure when we were kid they don't all do
47:44
it but yeah I know what you mean what but if you wanted to do it now if you
47:47
wanted to become an actor the first thing you do is start going to the gym
47:51
yeah like Christian Bale like he goes he goes up in size down in size that is not
47:57
good he's crazy yeah yeah yeah he's doing damage but I remember the first
48:02
one the most recent one I think of is Dune where um what's his name also from Baywatch
48:09
but not the same Baywatch was like do I need abs for this because I don't have
48:12
them right now oh um but on the um the
48:18
commentary track for Army of Darkness
48:22
right Evil Dead three Bruce Campbell cuz you remember he's [ __ ] jacked in that
48:28
movie um but he was like people see me and expect me to be jacked he's like no
48:34
when I heard I was going to be in that movie I spent three months getting
48:37
jacked and then immediately after filming back no longer jacked that's why
48:43
people make fun of was it that funny tweet where it's like um uh it's Vin
48:49
Diesel on like a yacht in Italy looking like looking chubby it's like he's not
48:54
doing the film right now so yeah [ __ ] it and then that someone said uh Vin Diesel
48:59
looking schlubby on a yacht in Italy and then someone replied and said well you
49:02
looking jacked in your mom's basement who's winning yeah yeah
49:09
yeah yeah but yeah like but yeah when they they're not preparing for a movie
49:13
they don't have like the studio paying
49:17
for their their meals and Chef the chef and they're working out and they're just
49:23
and also something you said before Dan about this came up I know you hate um
49:27
Dax sheeper but I listened to the episode with Toto Wolf the I'd look I'd
49:33
look at Dax sheeper at the beach if he had no shirt on for sure yeah well well
49:37
that they talk about that right so Toto Wolf the team principal for Mercedes is
49:42
yeah Toto's [ __ ] it's it's actually a really great interview if you can that
49:45
one Listen to If you can handle de um but it's interesting cuz they're
49:51
talking about you know he always asks about mental health and diet and and and
49:56
all that um and fitness regime and Toto is very like um he's Austrian he's very
50:02
precise you kind of like a I guess what's the word uh he does he
50:08
just does like the minimum for maximum result kind of thing like he said yeah
50:12
he stopped eating breakfast because it was just a waste of calories so now he
50:15
just does this and his basically his workout is just he wants to be lean and
50:20
um and they were talking about how cuz what's a I forget the name of the girl
50:24
is also on that show um mon she said girls like what Toto looks
50:31
like and then cuz then Toto was like oh Dax you obviously I don't do what you do
50:36
you're quite big and and Dax is like yeah but this is for guys like I do this
50:41
so guys will look at me and then I've heard uh I think Rob melin said that
50:46
before too it's like guys don't get that jacked cuz girls like it cuz girls don't
50:50
like it no they get they get that jacked so that men will be jealous of them well
50:55
it's the same reason guys get sports cars and Rolexes no girl
51:01
goes up to a that's a nice watch but
51:04
other dud con like yeah you sucking me
51:09
off or what what's going
51:12
on oh yeah yeah so anyway just the yeah
51:16
um being enormous girls don't really give a [ __ ] apparently that's probably
51:22
not entirely true that's why I don't bother
51:29
yeah sorry I speaking to the spreadsheet my cat changed it again I I noticed that
51:34
uh your cat was making some modifications
51:38
yeah changes for wet to dry food
51:46
lately um that uh Humane AI
51:50
pin remember that came out 700 bucks uh and apparently didn't work very well it
51:56
a little little thing you put on you and you just talk to it and and it was going
52:00
to save save your world and plan your life and you say take a picture and you
52:05
could tell it you know or just hold something up and go what's this and it
52:09
would sometimes tell you what it was sometimes just say I don't than not
52:14
don't know I have no reference well yeah it was 700 bucks plus a monthly
52:18
subscription for it to work uh HP has bought the company okay and uh they will
52:24
become yeah they'll become bricks very soon and uh I thought one thing that
52:30
made me laugh people so people are pissed about it right because these things were very
52:34
expensive and uh and they're just not going to work anymore but they did say
52:38
some things will work for example it will still be able to tell you the
52:40
battery level if you ask it's like oh good that's actually the only thing I
52:46
use it for I can do nothing all day yeah yeah so because all the servers are
52:52
going to be shut down so it's going to yeah it's a bummer you bought one I mean
52:57
no one did right no one listened to the show bought one of these things
53:03
but fact I think they did a big price drop at some point too when they
53:06
realized that they'd priced it way too high for something that most people's
53:11
phones do most the functionality that's the thing I think this kind of product
53:17
could be cool but really what they should do and I know they can't because
53:22
because Android or Google and apple won't let them do it is that it should
53:27
just use the phone as the brains but but neither of those companies want to let
53:33
them do that no cuz they're working on their own yes y yeah there's no way
53:39
everyone's tried to do peripherals you know like like the Google Glass and and
53:45
even the even the Snapchat glasses and you know and the headsets and stuff like
53:48
this everyone's got ideas of what like
53:52
things that aren't your phone could be the general
53:57
really deci I'm give me Google Glasses I just think it would be great
54:02
if the phone companies or the phone platforms did let them do this stuff I
54:08
understand why they don't but come on like I this could be could be a cool
54:11
product if they could just work with the phone it would be good yeah right
54:17
exactly well I'm interested what um HP is going to do with it though like why
54:22
would they buy them out they bought the patents and they
54:27
staff yeah and they're not going to do anything with the tech I don't think yeah not
54:32
specifically right they'll get to do something else yeah or some
54:38
some feature from it will just be in some other device now cuz that really
54:43
that's what HP does now HP doesn't make anything they buy stuff it could
54:48
literally just be they thought the patents that this company had will be
54:52
valuable because someone else will want to make something and they can just
54:54
collect money yeah m that could be all it could be as simple as that yeah yeah
55:00
um you I've mentioned I've mentioned on the past because there's a guy at my
55:04
work who's just whose wife's family in China are just super rich and just
55:09
bought their house over here PID for their kids private school and stuff like
55:12
this finally ask like what are you [ __ ] parents do it's like oh they own
55:17
a factory that makes batteries I'm like okay I guess I guess I can see that I
55:20
guess I can see why you'd be rich and they're like oh and they own the patent
55:24
on the type of batteries they make I'm like oh there you
55:28
go but I I still don't understand how that happens in China when it's meant to
55:34
be communist where there are rich
55:36
people and explain it to you Luke so I don't get
55:42
it have a very limited knowledge of China most of it comes from Indiana
55:48
Jones in the Temple of Doom yeah yeah and that wasn't even China that was Hong
55:54
Kong there you go well you tell me naachi wasn't Chinese
56:00
yeah yeah which was well not at the time that was British Mand when set in the
56:06
movie now it's technically part of China but it's still a ad demonstration of how
56:10
little I know about China or Hong Kong as apparently I'm talking
56:15
about yeah cuz I know I know Hong Kong was leased for 99 years yeah least
56:21
against its own will and then they didn't want to go back yep cuz now they like their
56:28
freedom yeah yeah well a lot of people would
56:33
argue that Taiwan is Real China and China is fake China because when the
56:39
cultural revolution happened at the start of the 20th century and China be
56:43
became communist the aristocrats went to
56:47
the nearest Island and just continued living the old China and that's Taiwan
56:53
oh okay h of that
56:59
yeah don't ask that deep seek Ai No the Chinese AI oh yeah oh man we had the
57:06
funniest thing the other day so we had um we had these guys like these AI
57:12
experts just brought in to do a talk to to our staff right yep and they showed
57:18
us all these [ __ ] amazing things right that they had done just text to
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video and all that stuff like this they basically showed how you can do an
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entire production Pipeline with only AI with no shoot no
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human being just all of the stuff so they did storyboards and then they animated the
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storyboards and then they put them full rendered and all this stuff and it was
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pretty impressive and then question time at the end and for some reason my staff
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just [ __ ] ripped them to [ __ ] like everyone was just like um oh it's
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not very diverse didn't see any Australian Aborigines in there and
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you know and I didn't see any obese people and like just but did you just go
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you were here when we were making it we didn't ask to put that in we'll go back
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and we'll just put that in like throw a sentence in there and it'll add one yeah
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twoo whatever you want mhm no I'm looking forward to it I get to start
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looking at how to create an agent in it so sort of a chatbot using C spawn style
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agent mhm nice so I'm looking forward to that play around with that yeah
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interesting play with the video I sent you guys that's right yeah I probably
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sent you an annoying number of them because I was just playing around but
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yeah man I use it I I use it cuz I'm for writing this [ __ ] book and I use it
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as an editor like so I'll write I'll do like three different drafts of a chapter
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and be like oh [ __ ] what have I done and I've changed tenses here and stuff
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and I just [ __ ] copy and paste them into chat gbt and I'll be like can you please just
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compile and yeah and then just fix all the tenses and the grammar and it and it
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will and and then I'll just P it back into the manuscript but then you still
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have to read it because I've had some times where I'll put something in and
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it'll come up with something very wrong like it told me um put in something and
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I went oh give me all everything for for this period and then it came up with
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thing I'm on this date and I went that's the wrong date and I went no it's not
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and went no no no February 14th is Thursday not the Friday or whatever it
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was and it went oh yeah thanks for pointing that out and I went no you said
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it with such confidence yeah that's the thing yeah yeah yeah I told you I use it
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for to ask it code questions sometimes and it's just like aggressively
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incorrect about things and you go that's not right and then it's like oh yeah
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sorry and it just says the same thing again and I'm like and then and then I
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start argu I'm like I'm like I told you that's not correct what what are you
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doing mate and it's like oh I'm why am I talking to it like this yeah that's
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right yeah but when it's funny when it says things like oh that sounds
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interesting like are you interested in it very ego strokey yeah what about this
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amazing idea yeah but it started trying to write characters for me and I'm like
1:00:04
no no don't do that don't add to the pr don't be creative yeah that's not what I
1:00:09
need I just need to make sure that the commas are in the right place I can't be
1:00:12
certain you haven't stolen that from somewhere yeah that's right yeah that's
1:00:16
what it's good to help but yeah you can't trust it no God no that's what I
1:00:21
mean though you could say because someone said oh you can make a whole app
1:00:24
with it I wouldn't [ __ ] trust it to do that I can't trust it to answer a
1:00:27
simple question sometimes when I've got doing code stuff like I wouldn't like do
1:00:32
not copy and paste code from chat GPT and run anywhere like you need to what
1:00:38
it's doing I think the one that's the most polished is the the songwriting one
1:00:45
which is um oh yeah the one that generates the music or just yeah yeah
1:00:49
the one where you give it some vague talking points a genre and it makes a
1:00:54
song and like not necessarily a song that you'd listen to on the radio but
1:01:00
like this these like if if you were doing an ad and you just needed music in
1:01:04
the background and you didn't want to pay anyone money for it yeah like
1:01:09
unfortunately that's one that you get away with that's the point though right is
1:01:14
yeah like the the text to video stuff still looks like
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AI at at a glance whereas the music you'd really have to think about it I
1:01:23
was yeah stuff like a YouTube video right I was watching a YouTube video and it was a
1:01:28
guy a guy from Queensland who goes out on boats to like remote islands and that
1:01:33
stuff and I just I know I find it stuff interesting to have on in the background
1:01:36
sometimes and uh I think because I wasn't watching it and I just had it on
1:01:42
that I could hear you know YouTube essays and videos always have just
1:01:45
background music and it's kind of like you know lowii yeah there's like a
1:01:50
certain genre of music that is but the music I was like hang on minute and I I
1:01:57
went back and I was like I don't think a human wrote this because it actually it
1:02:01
doesn't follow any I unless somebody was trying to be very um different it
1:02:07
doesn't follow any particular you know like structure that you would be used to
1:02:11
as a mus so unless it's some kind of avangard artist who was writing very
1:02:16
standard you know um like lowii four 44 music for a YouTube video and just
1:02:22
decided to go really weird with the timings I think was AI oh that's
1:02:26
interesting yeah yeah because it just I was like what the [ __ ] is going on with that
1:02:30
music just like it would just change like key at a point where I was
1:02:36
just like what is that happening yeah okay
1:02:40
okay but yeah but you're right it's pretty impressive it's the most it's yeah it's
1:02:47
not perfect but it's the most impressive and mean if you didn't listen
1:02:52
to music as active as I do you probably wouldn't notice
1:02:58
care cuz you you you should have been watching the video I just wasn't paying
1:03:02
attention to it and so the music my attention yeah oh you'd be hyper aware
1:03:06
of that stuff anyway I would think at the best of times like when I was in
1:03:10
Film Production I just couldn't watch a movie without thinking about the editing
1:03:13
yeah yeah now yeah well I do I notice the music in stuff a
1:03:19
so um speak of thinks the music is good in uh Severance new episode oh I haven't
1:03:25
watch the new episode then I won't say anything yes it
1:03:31
is music is good in that it's good it's
1:03:36
good very minimalist but but like memorable it's quite difficult to do
1:03:43
sometimes definitely oh I had a great quote the other day
1:03:48
um uh and it was just about music and but somebody was saying that another
1:03:54
word for catchy is predictable it's like oh that's so true
1:04:01
it's like when you something's catchy is because you your brain knows what's
1:04:03
going to you know what's coming next come next and they were talking about
1:04:07
how when you write a song You Have To Tread that fine line between making
1:04:12
it like original and unpredictable which is what you think you should make it but
1:04:17
then you risk not having that catchiness sure that predictability
1:04:23
brings yeah interesting the opposite end of the scale is stuff like like muga
1:04:29
where it's it's not that at all and that's the appeal is that if you're only
1:04:33
musicians like that stuff because yeah you go see them and you're like what the
1:04:36
[ __ ] are they going to do next yeah and how are they going to do
1:04:40
that how is he doing that on the drums how is how are his legs doing
1:04:45
that yeah well this dream theater's new album which is just like somebody told
1:04:49
AI to make a dream theer oh no that's a shame
1:04:56
but I just listened to it and I was like oh yeah I've heard this it's like this
1:05:00
is there's two kinds of bands I feel like there's a band like Lincoln Park
1:05:04
which I feel like I mean they they have a genre but they move around it and they
1:05:09
do different things and then there's other bands arguably maybe Dream Theater
1:05:12
is one of them where you know what you're going to get yeah yeah yeah yeah
1:05:17
well sometimes B it's bands sometimes have a hard time some bands can grow and
1:05:22
change where other times they'll try and go no just go back and do what you're
1:05:26
doing yeah Lincoln Park were funny because I think their second album tried
1:05:30
to just mimic their first album and and and and people seem to not like that so
1:05:35
from then on they seem to just try to age up their music as Their audience did
1:05:39
which was interesting not a lot of bands do that and they were never as popular
1:05:44
again but it certainly kept them kept them going yeah yeah right I think and
1:05:51
and like uh n nail is a good example too like he didn't never really did the same
1:05:54
thing yeah uh but also never followed any Trends or
1:05:58
anything you just kind of did whatever I guess whatever the [ __ ] you
1:06:01
wanted [ __ ] instrumental Alum when he wants to and yeah continues to do
1:06:06
whatever the [ __ ] he wants arguably with less mainstream
1:06:10
success lately yeah yeah but he doesn't have to because he made so much money
1:06:14
off of [ __ ] the albs they do are [ __ ] weird now doesn't he have actual
1:06:19
mainstream success just not where you expect now cuz he do yeah he's got
1:06:24
doesn't he yeah he got I think a couple yeah uh you know where you can do
1:06:29
whatever you want is the after party oh I was trying
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to think do we actually give that place a name in put these socks in your
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mouth Dave's house no we never did yeah Dave's house Dave's house what's the
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Afterparty the after part is the other half of this show mat oh yeah yeah he's got a
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forget the main show was you know like an hour and a quarter so yeah what if I
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wanted to to pay more than $5 a month Luke there is a secret te that's not
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actually promoted on patreon for $100 a month we're just going to say it and get
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people to do it and then what are you going to do for the people I don't know
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I didn't think anyone would actually pay the money on panicking still they
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havec maybe I priced myself too
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low they called you a bluff I started um following somebody on patreon Pat
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patronizing them Pat that doesn't sound right doesn't sound right um I guess
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that is correct though right yeah but uh you know I I I did the the smallest tier
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which is still six bucks a month with for the for the lowest which is a high
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low tier yeah yeah um but this guy it's it's I'm I'll say what it is if you want
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it's media death cult on YouTube but he has a podcast but you can only listen to
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he just talks about science fiction you can he's got a podcast that you can only
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listen to if you're a patron right and uh I'm like I want to listen to the
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podcast fine here's your $6 but um he's got the $6 and then a $112 and then a
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and then there's like a $60 one and the the little explanation under that is
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you've clicked on the wrong one nice there's a guy uh rocket power
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Mohawk F1 videos on YouTube very funny but um he's got a patreon and he started
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it he's had a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot of subscribers mhm and he's made a
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lot of money but there's a bit a big backlash because he was supposed to do
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weekly podcast it's been bonly at best and he hasn't done anything since last
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year and so now but he's still collecting money every month a lot of
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money like as in he's got I think like five figure subscribers and it's minimum
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$2 a month so send some of those people our way we do these podcasts every week
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I guess we're not as funny as him that's the problem but anyway so yeah there's
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been a mass Revolt of people saying come on man yeah like and then there there's
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another there's a podcast that I subscribed to called historical
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blindness and he does two two shows a week but you only get one for free if
1:09:35
you on the other one you but and it's a dollar a month and I'm like man you
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should charge more I would give you more I'm not going to give you more because
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you've given me the option to pay $1 which I am yeah some of them yes I could but
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yeah some of the minimums I'm like oh I don't know man I want to support you
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even the even um rest history I've subscribed twice and then unsubscribed
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it's $8 right 8 it's right so it's oh
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