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9-1: No Tattoos On My Dime. FL Closes The EBT Fraud Loophole · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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  Speaker 1: The dark day in the state of Florida and the
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  Speaker 1: Sunshine State. The darkness has come for people who like
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  Speaker 1: to use their EBT cards on fortune tellers.
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  Speaker 2: And strip clubs and vapes.
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  Speaker 1: And you're thinking, and you wouldn't be alone in thinking this,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, because the pushback in this rule instituted
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  Speaker 1: by Governor DeSantis in Florida and soon to be followed
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  Speaker 1: by other states is getting so much pushback. And here's
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  Speaker 1: the main argument. Of course, everybody gets it wrong. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: the pushback is completely off the mark here. Those things
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  Speaker 1: are already banned. He's so stupid. This is just political theater. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: by the letter of the law they were. This is
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  Speaker 1: a tightening because you know this was happening. DeSantis, who's outgoing,
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  Speaker 1: and this is fascinating to me, and I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: wait a couple of days before we actually talked about
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  Speaker 1: this one because I wanted to see the pushback on
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  Speaker 1: this because the obvious meltdown that we all knew was
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  Speaker 1: coming over restricting welfare use. It always is controversial. It
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  Speaker 1: always gets a pushback, and everybody always gets this wrong.
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  Speaker 1: The meltdown... is further and worse.
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  Speaker 2: Than anything I even expected.
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  Speaker 1: And he's an interesting guy in announcing this because he's
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  Speaker 1: outgoing governor, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows what he's going to do next? Can't run
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  Speaker 2: for governor again.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a guy that seems to be kind
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  Speaker 1: of like what I think Trump is going to be
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  Speaker 1: like next year. Instituting all this stuff he knew he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to get done, and now he doesn't have to.
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  Speaker 2: Worry about the blowback. It's going to be amazing. And
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  Speaker 2: the blowback is real. We'll talk about it. Thanks for
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  Speaker 2: being here.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much. Wicked Radio live stream, then replay.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about this stuff. Put some common sense into it.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously the audio podcast uploaded shortly after we get
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  Speaker 1: off the live stream every single day.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take this in pieces now. And this
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  Speaker 2: was a few days ago.
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  Speaker 1: And like I said, I wanted to wait a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days to kind of get a feel for the
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  Speaker 1: blowback and the pushback and the liberal minds that are
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  Speaker 1: melting down over cracking down on EBT fraud in the
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  Speaker 1: state of Florida. Quick to and important to note here, though,
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  Speaker 1: that As many as 10 or 11 other states are
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  Speaker 1: ready to jump right on this as well to do
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  Speaker 1: the exact same thing and cracking down on EBT fraud.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take the governor's press conference here for a second
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  Speaker 1: and take it step by step. He's a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a tough soundbite because he's kind of like he meanders.
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  Speaker 1: But this one's not too bad because he lists all
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  Speaker 1: the items that are actually now banned in the state
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  Speaker 1: of Florida. Most of these you're not going to believe.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite one, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: The fortune tellers. Did you know people are using this? No,
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  Speaker 2: most people didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take it in pieces.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Now, again, this is something that he's wanted to do.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't do it in the first term, doing it late
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  Speaker 1: in the second term because he probably doesn't have to
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  Speaker 1: worry about the pushback too much. Possibly they'll use this
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  Speaker 1: against him as political opponents if he's being nominated for
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  Speaker 1: attorney general on the federal level, next administration, or whatever else,
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  Speaker 1: or if he's running for Senate, possibly. But as far
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  Speaker 1: as his governor role goes, no, he doesn't care. He
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  Speaker 1: wants to get this done.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 3: No tobacco and vaping products with EBT cards and TANF grants.
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  Speaker 2: Common sense.
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  Speaker 3: No drugs or intoxicants with EBT cards and TANF grants.
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  Speaker 2: Now it gets really good.
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  Speaker 3: No adult material. You can get adult material on the
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  Speaker 3: gas station. No video games, entertainment tickets, theme park.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: See, now he's getting into theme park tickets and entertainment subscriptions.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the one that got everybody going.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute. You can actually do that?
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  Speaker 1: More on that in a second, but your answer is,
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  Speaker 1: if you're asking that question, and rightfully so, your answer
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  Speaker 1: is yes.
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  Speaker 2: As it stands right now, you can.
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  Speaker 3: No tattoos no tanning beds other you know more luxury
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  Speaker 3: services no fortune telling services and so you know this
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  Speaker 3: is just i don't know why some of this is
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  Speaker 3: happening obviously some of these cards are just people don't
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  Speaker 3: need it and it's fraud right i mean they're they're
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  Speaker 3: milking the system they're not really needy they're scam artists
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  Speaker 3: and so they're using it to do some of this
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  Speaker 3: other stuff But I do think that if somebody really
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  Speaker 3: is needy, we just want to make sure that that
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  Speaker 3: money is going to the things that are going to
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  Speaker 3: help that individual and if the dependents and help the dependents.
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  Speaker 1: Which you'd think would be complete common sense, right? Now,
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  Speaker 1: the thing he said there was the no fortune tellers. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this has led to a whole ton of people in
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  Speaker 1: the state of Florida, and I've been watching the comments
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  Speaker 1: on this thing, talking about the I-4 corridor between Orlando
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  Speaker 1: and Tampa.
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  Speaker 2: A whole bunch of people have.
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  Speaker 1: Chimed in saying, That's why there's so many of them
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  Speaker 1: in that particular area. Even DeSantis said, he responded to it,
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  Speaker 1: and he goes, maybe, maybe that's the reason why.
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  Speaker 2: And he was able.
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  Speaker 1: To use EBT cards, welfare benefits, which is what we
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  Speaker 1: always used to call them, on getting your fortune read.
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  Speaker 2: Really.
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  Speaker 1: Now, there are worse things, obviously, that he mentioned right there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the tattoo, the vaping products, tattoos, tanning beds,
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  Speaker 1: all that other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Now, here's the argument.
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  Speaker 1: That's come in and everybody is getting this wrong. And
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  Speaker 1: if you spend any time in the comment section of
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  Speaker 1: Governor DeSantis' ex-site where he announced this or anything official,
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  Speaker 1: I warn you not to because you're going to see
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  Speaker 1: some of the dumbest things of all time and people
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  Speaker 1: are just livid. It's kind of like when you try
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  Speaker 1: to restrict any kind of a sugary food ban on
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  Speaker 1: welfare benefits. It's something about this brings out the vitriol
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  Speaker 1: of those on the left more than any other issue
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  Speaker 1: on earth. And even there are conservatives who are actually
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  Speaker 1: upset about this because it's like, well, you're going too far, Governor.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that, you know, no, don't get into people's
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  Speaker 1: personal lives. And I get it if your argument is
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  Speaker 1: we got other things to worry about. I totally understand that.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the point of this that everybody is getting wrong.
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  Speaker 1: The argument that there's so, and I'm just kind of
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  Speaker 1: like encapsulating a bunch of the different comments that I've
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  Speaker 1: seen on this, on his own personal ex-account. You're so stupid.
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  Speaker 1: These things are already banned. The federal law, and then
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  Speaker 1: they cite the law, and then they post it, and
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  Speaker 1: they clip it, and they put it on there, or
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  Speaker 1: a Google link, or a Wikipedia article, or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: These things are already banned. He's so stupid. They're so
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  Speaker 1: dumb to actually do this stuff. Don't you know the law, governor?
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  Speaker 1: This is just political theater.
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  Speaker 2: Now, hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Granted, is a bit of this political theater? Of course
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  Speaker 1: it all is. Of course it is. And like I said,
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  Speaker 1: a big factor in this entire thing is DeSantis is
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  Speaker 1: an outgoing governor he doesn't have too much to worry
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  Speaker 1: about maybe his next job whatever he's running for next
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  Speaker 1: so he doesn't care this is something that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like a pet project he's wanted to get done because
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  Speaker 1: he feels it's important obviously and can get it done
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  Speaker 1: and like I said there's 10 or 11 other states
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  Speaker 1: that are ready to jump on this now and he
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  Speaker 1: has the complete full 100 support from the Trump administration
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  Speaker 1: on this and they're helping him institute this in the
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  Speaker 1: state of Florida Here's what everybody's getting wrong with the
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  Speaker 1: argument that these things are already banned federally.
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  Speaker 2: It's federal law. You're so stupid. Don't you know?
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  Speaker 1: Here, I've clipped a Google article for you to read.
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  Speaker 1: I saw hundreds of those comments. Here's what everybody's getting
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  Speaker 1: wrong because there's all this argument. Something's going on here
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  Speaker 1: because you know this stuff is being used. There's so
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  Speaker 1: many personal stories. You've probably seen it with your own eyes.
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  Speaker 1: Then you have other people saying that it's already banned.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the difference, and this is why it has everybody confused.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Under a federal law, you can't use these things. You
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  Speaker 1: can't use welfare benefits on tattoos or tanning beds or
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  Speaker 1: all these other things. This was the change, and it
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  Speaker 1: happened in the year 2012. What else is going on
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  Speaker 1: in 2012? All right, that's a topic for a different day.
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  Speaker 1: Congress instituted a national location ban on this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So they changed the rules. They moved the.
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  Speaker 1: Pieces on the board on EBT rules. No EBT purchases
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  Speaker 1: were allowed at liquor stores, casinos, gambling halls, adult entertainment,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. And you're thinking, yeah, well, that proves their point.
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  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to what it was, a location ban of where
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  Speaker 1: those things are. Some states went further. Alabama banned tattoo
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  Speaker 1: shops and psychics in 2014. California banned tattoo shops where
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  Speaker 1: they're located. That was the change. In 2026, now here
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  Speaker 1: we are, Florida's the first state to test the next iteration,
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  Speaker 1: the actual item bans, not just the location. Instead of
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  Speaker 1: banning charges at tattoo shops, they're banning tattoos.
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  Speaker 2: See what I'm saying here?
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  Speaker 1: Instead of banning smoke and vape shops or the location
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  Speaker 1: where they are, they're banning the vapes themselves.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, the palm reading or whatever the hell else
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  Speaker 2: they were doing.
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  Speaker 1: So that's how they were getting away with it before
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  Speaker 1: because whatever place was saying, Well, no, we're charging you
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  Speaker 1: for a T-shirt or a tattoo shop. You can use
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  Speaker 1: your EBT benefit there. You can use that.
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  Speaker 2: You can do that when they were actually getting a tattoo.
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  Speaker 2: See what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: So the skirt around the issue was the fortune teller
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  Speaker 1: was saying, no, we're going to charge you for a
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  Speaker 1: Ouija board. You can use your EBT card for that,
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  Speaker 1: but we're actually going to be using it for me
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  Speaker 1: telling your fortune. This is how they skirted the law.
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  Speaker 1: And this is why everybody that's so pissed off about
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  Speaker 1: this is so wrong about it. This is the tightening
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  Speaker 1: of the rules against EBT fraud. And I think we
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  Speaker 1: should go a little bit further. I think we should
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  Speaker 1: support banning with EBT cards welfare fraud. And man, the
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  Speaker 1: pushback on this was even worse than the Florida ban.
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  Speaker 2: All the junk food. And man, this is an unpopular
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  Speaker 2: opinion on this.
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  Speaker 1: Because like I said, there's even conservatives who don't want
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  Speaker 1: government in your life at all.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, the liberals that just hate cracking down on anything
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  Speaker 1: that's not common sense anyway, they hate that as well.
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  Speaker 2: And RFK Jr.
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy with HHS, God love him, he tried to
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  Speaker 1: do this. He tried to ban EBT and welfare to
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  Speaker 1: be used at grocery stores on junk food. food had
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  Speaker 1: the support of 10 or 11 states, and got shot
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  Speaker 1: right down. This is the most recent effort on that.
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  Speaker 4: This morning, a judge ruled the federal government cannot block
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  Speaker 4: SNAP benefits from being used to buy candy, soda, or
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  Speaker 4: other sugary drinks. The ruling impacts new restrictions that have
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  Speaker 4: already started in at least 10 states and are planned
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  Speaker 4: in several others.
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  Speaker 2: RFK Jr.
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  Speaker 1: Wants to get this thing done so badly, but he can't.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have enough support on this. There he was,
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  Speaker 1: got at the support of 10 states. shot down immediately
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  Speaker 1: by a federal judge. It's not going to go anywhere,
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  Speaker 1: but I think we should. And the argument against this is, well,
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  Speaker 1: you can't determine what people put in their grocery cart.
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  Speaker 1: And my argument to that is, why not? You know,
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  Speaker 1: people who are fully in support of this say beggars
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  Speaker 1: can't be choosers. I mean, the argument against that is,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm supporting you, if technically through my taxpayer dollars,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm paying for your EBD card, if I'm paying
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  Speaker 1: for your welfare, You shouldn't be able to buy that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Well, why? Make them happy. Why shouldn't they deserve? They
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  Speaker 2: already have a tough life.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, someday we're going to look back on
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  Speaker 1: this and we're going to realize the crap and the
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  Speaker 1: poison that people are eating and putting in their bodies
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  Speaker 1: is a major, major contributor to bad behavior. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going there and crime down the road.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Oh, that's ridiculous. You can't make that argument, Bill.
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  Speaker 2: Can't I? Why can't I? You know it's true.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying whether they're black, white, brown, polka dot, Yellow,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what color, background, demographic you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Next time you're at a grocery store, look around at
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  Speaker 1: the kids, young kids, or teenagers.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: Look around at the ones that are causing the most
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  Speaker 1: trouble in any environment like that, and here's a little trick.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the shopping cart. Look to see what the
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  Speaker 1: family's buying and consuming. Look at the worst behavior, tie
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  Speaker 1: it directly to the food, and you can do it
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  Speaker 1: every single time. You'll find nothing but crap, sugary crap,
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  Speaker 1: Soda crap, crap, crap, processed garbage.
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  Speaker 2: You don't think that has an effect on behavior? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I do. Well, you can't legislate behavior. No, I can't.
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  Speaker 1: But here's what I can do as an American taxpayer.
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  Speaker 1: I can determine where that money goes realistically. Is that
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  Speaker 1: ever going to make any impact whatsoever?
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  Speaker 2: No, probably not. That's the toughest fight of all.
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  Speaker 1: That's a completely different argument from DeSantis in Florida cracking
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  Speaker 1: down on EBT cards being used.
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  Speaker 2: At tattoo parlors.
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  Speaker 1: And a federal statute which says you can't use EBT
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  Speaker 1: cards on the kind of food you want to choose.
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  Speaker 1: That's an argument that we're probably never, ever going to win.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a factor. Bobby Kennedy Jr. is trying. God
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  Speaker 2: love him.
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  Speaker 1: Shot right down. I don't even know if he's going
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  Speaker 1: to have a chance like that. His next best shot,
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  Speaker 1: and apparently his next effort, is making school lunches healthier.
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  Speaker 1: And it sounds like the Michelle Obama plan, which everybody
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  Speaker 1: was mad at her about that.
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  Speaker 2: But you can try.
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  Speaker 1: But don't try to tell me there's not a direct
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  Speaker 1: connection between what you eat and the behavior down the road.
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  Speaker 1: If you look, if they ever did a study, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe somebody has it, you looked at some of the
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  Speaker 1: worst murderers that are sitting on death row, if they
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  Speaker 1: ever talked about what kind of food they were brought
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  Speaker 1: up on.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. I can make that connection. Why not?
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  Speaker 1: You may be surprised, and here's your argument for the
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  Speaker 1: next time somebody argues against this. Oh, that DeSantis, he's
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  Speaker 1: so dumb. Doesn't he already know that those items are
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  Speaker 1: banned anyway? He's just doing that for attention and clicks.
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  Speaker 1: They were banned by location, not the individual items, and
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  Speaker 1: That's the golden difference in that one. No more EBT
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  Speaker 1: cards on fortune tellers. It's a different day, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: The shocking thing is to see on these stories, you
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  Speaker 1: read some of the comments and you go into that
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  Speaker 1: comments section, you realize how many people have seen this
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  Speaker 1: stuff happen.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, I see it all the time. I
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  Speaker 2: see all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I see somebody walking in at a massage parlor I
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  Speaker 1: go to, maybe even legitimately, and you see people using
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  Speaker 1: the EBT cards.
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  Speaker 2: And the rest of us are going, really?
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Is that really a thing? Now, most of the businesses
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  Speaker 1: you're not hearing from to say, yeah, they use it
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  Speaker 1: at my place all the time because they don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get busted. Of course, you're not going to hear that.
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  Speaker 1: But the argument that this stuff has already been banned,
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  Speaker 1: maybe technically, but this is a crackdown on those bans.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're an American taxpayer who's sick of the
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  Speaker 1: waste and fraud, yeah, I applaud it. It takes a
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  Speaker 1: lot of balls to get this done.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see. Work on the food next. We'll see.
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