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Hitman's Back, Vikings Roster and Captains, and Vikings vs. Packers Week 1 Preview | TSH Ep. 154 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: Alright, hey Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode of
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  Speaker 1: The Skol Hop. I'm Evan.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Austin.
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  Speaker 1: We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like
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  Speaker 1: drinking beer and talking about the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And we had a really good beer
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  Speaker 2: tonight from Alluvial Brewing. And it was probably the best
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  Speaker 2: thing that's ever come out of Ames, Iowa at all.
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  Speaker 1: Also, number 22 is back.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: We are pumped to see Harrison Smith play yet another
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  Speaker 1: season in Purple.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And we also hashed out some other recent Vikings news.
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  Speaker 2: And Evan, you challenged me to another bet.
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  Speaker 1: I did. You'll have to tune in to see what
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  Speaker 1: that's all about. But of course, we had to end
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  Speaker 1: by previewing the Vikings week one matchup against the Packers.
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  Speaker 1: Football's back, man. I'm pumped.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't be more excited. So go ahead, grab a
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  Speaker 2: cold one and join us for episode 154 of the
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  Speaker 2: Skol Hop. Skol. Skol.
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  Speaker 1: All right let's get into some beer we got another
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  Speaker 1: alluvial beer uh our second one in like a month.
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  Speaker 2: Um and has it really been that little of a
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  Speaker 2: time since you've had alluvial recently?
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  Speaker 1: I went back and looked it was uh episode 150
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  Speaker 1: all right so four episodes ago yeah nice okay so
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  Speaker 1: our second one in a month uh this time we're
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  Speaker 1: going to try their mosaicious pale ale it's a 5.7
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  Speaker 1: percent and it doesn't say much else other than that
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  Speaker 1: I would assume it's a Made with mosaic hops?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't really name it that without backing
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  Speaker 2: it up. But there is no information. That and 5.7,
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  Speaker 2: and that's it. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Mystery beer, then.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It smells good. I can smell the hops.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this will be one of the very few things
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  Speaker 2: that are good that come out of Ames, Iowa. Because
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  Speaker 2: not much else has happened in there. The rest of
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  Speaker 2: that town is not that great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you're a Hawkeye fan. I am.
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  Speaker 2: I am a Hawkeye fan. Although, weirdly, I am going
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  Speaker 2: to an Iowa State game.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Soon. I think we're going to Bowling Green. Bowling Green.
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  Speaker 2: For the show, Forrest and I are going. Just because
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  Speaker 2: it's a stadium neither of us have ever been to.
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  Speaker 2: And we got the hookup on some decent tickets. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to go check it out.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: I guess if the stadium has alluvial beer, that's what
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  Speaker 2: I'll be going for. But I'd almost be surprised.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if they'd have something that. craft
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  Speaker 1: yeah at the game but i'll keep an eye out
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  Speaker 1: i'll let you know they'll definitely have plenty of bush
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  Speaker 1: light at the game.
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  Speaker 2: But this one's going to be hopefully a billion times
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  Speaker 2: better than bush light.
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  Speaker 1: Let's try out mosaicious from alluvial skull cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah that's like um it's like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of like nice fruity um I don't know. I almost
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  Speaker 2: want to say tangy, but that's not right. It's really refreshing,
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  Speaker 2: really citrusy to me. Are you getting that kind of
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  Speaker 2: like burst of like nice fruity flavor?
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  Speaker 1: It's not super floral, but it's got a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of that floral vibe to it. So I like this
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  Speaker 1: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Really solid pale ale.
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  Speaker 2: Really good color. Nice light color. I mean, it almost
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  Speaker 2: looks like the picture that you'd pull up of like
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  Speaker 2: a clip art beer, you know, just that nice... golden
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  Speaker 2: color with a good head retention yeah really good pretty
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  Speaker 2: hazy too i don't think it's billed as a hazy
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  Speaker 2: ipa but it's got a nice hazy color to.
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  Speaker 1: It you're not really seeing through it so good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah and at what 5.7 alcohol you know ev.
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  Speaker 1: Who might have a new one on the lawnmower scale.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah well it's definitely on the scale they're all on
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  Speaker 2: the scale whether or not i give one this i
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  Speaker 2: want to i want to say a number but i
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  Speaker 2: think it's the highest one i've ever given which i
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  Speaker 2: think i've said for the last few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: In a row you're ready to give a number right
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  Speaker 1: now yeah like usually you wait till the end.
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  Speaker 2: Of the episode no i'm ready right here let me
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  Speaker 2: let me all right narrate my sip here.
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  Speaker 1: He's taking a sip he just got off the lawnmower
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  Speaker 1: you told me to narrate the sip so i did i.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know why that was so funny i don't want
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  Speaker 2: to spit beer all over you um 8.8 on the
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  Speaker 2: lawnmower scale yeah this is nice light refreshing hoppy flavor
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  Speaker 2: i'm a sucker for a good ipa and I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's a pale ale, but yeah, that's really good. Good job, Alluvial.
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  Speaker 1: If you had a rider, would you put that in
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  Speaker 1: the cup holder.
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  Speaker 2: While you're... Oh, a thousand percent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, yeah. Even with the pounder can,
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  Speaker 2: that would still work. But my yard's not big enough
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  Speaker 2: for a rider. It would take like 10 minutes to
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  Speaker 2: do my... It would take more time to turn around
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  Speaker 2: in a rider than it would just to actually mow.
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  Speaker 1: That's fair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a really good job. Good job.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let's get into some stuff. We've got some news. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we do. Leading into week one of the NFL season. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you're excited.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very excited.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But you look like you want to share this news.
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean to steal your touchdown call, but Harry
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  Speaker 2: the Hitman, Harry the Hitman is back. Harrison Smith back
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  Speaker 2: with the Vikings. This feels really similar. And we might
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  Speaker 2: be like exactly one year away from announcing very excitedly
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  Speaker 2: last year. when the Vikings traded for Adam Thielen. And
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  Speaker 2: Adam Thielen was back. We were both wearing our 19s,
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  Speaker 2: and we were both really excited. Except this is better,
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  Speaker 2: because I think there's almost no chance Harrison Smith is
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  Speaker 2: going to quit on the team towards the end of
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  Speaker 2: the season. So Harrison Smith, he's back. One-year deal. Because remember,
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  Speaker 2: he was released from the roster pretty early in the
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  Speaker 2: offseason because of financial reasons. I think they would have
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  Speaker 2: been on the hook for tons of money if he
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  Speaker 2: was still on the roster, even though he was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe retiring, maybe not. Um, but Evan, I want your
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  Speaker 2: opinion on his deal. Uh, the way it's billed is
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  Speaker 2: most people are saying that it's a one year, like $ 12. 5
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  Speaker 2: million deal with, um, like 4 million left in incentives
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  Speaker 2: for playoffs. Uh, but really it's one year, 8 million.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's like, he's for every game he's active and,
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  Speaker 2: If he's active for every game of the season, it
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  Speaker 2: adds up to another $ 4 million, which is where that
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  Speaker 2: 12 number comes to. And then there's like $ 4 million
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  Speaker 2: in playoff incentives. I'm not going to pretend to be
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  Speaker 2: an expert, but that's about as much as I think
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  Speaker 2: you or I or any general football fan needs to know.
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  Speaker 2: So basically, if the Vikings win the Super Bowl, he's
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  Speaker 2: getting that full $ 16 million. He's probably getting $ 12 million
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  Speaker 2: no matter what. So, Evan, what are your thoughts? Is
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  Speaker 2: that too much? Is that perfect?
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  Speaker 1: Are you.
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  Speaker 2: do you even really care at that number? Like what,
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  Speaker 2: what are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I just had this conversation with some of my
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  Speaker 1: students in class today because we're talking about something different
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  Speaker 1: that I won't really get into here, but we made
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  Speaker 1: the point, I have a student teacher right now and
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  Speaker 1: I made the point that when he gets a job,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to make less money than I do because
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  Speaker 1: I'm more experienced. I've been doing this longer and we
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  Speaker 1: were using that.
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  Speaker 2: Way to be harsh, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we're just being honest and that's how
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  Speaker 1: it works. And we were connecting it to something else
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  Speaker 1: that we were talking about. But anyways, I view his
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  Speaker 1: seniority as of high value to the team. We know
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  Speaker 1: this about Harrison Smith now. He's not the super vocal leader.
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  Speaker 1: He's not the rally the locker room kind of guy.
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  Speaker 1: But he is absolutely a lead by example kind of guy.
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  Speaker 1: And even last year, 14 years in, He was flying
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  Speaker 1: around the field. You said before we recorded that there
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  Speaker 1: was a stretch of five games where he was kind
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  Speaker 1: of on fire. He was just playing like he was possessed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that five-game win streak at the end, he was
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  Speaker 2: a big part of it. And not that he got
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  Speaker 2: 10 interceptions and 10 sacks and all these crazy numbers
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  Speaker 2: on the field in those five games, but I think
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  Speaker 2: the only sack he got last year and both interceptions
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  Speaker 2: he got last year came in those games. Sorry to
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  Speaker 2: step on your toes there. No, you're good.
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  Speaker 1: All of that to say, I think he is very
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  Speaker 1: deserving of that number. I was just looking at SpotRack here.
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  Speaker 1: Where did it go now? I lost it. Josh Metellus
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  Speaker 1: is making $ 6 million, just under $ 6 million this year.
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  Speaker 1: I think what Harry's making is about right for his experience,
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  Speaker 1: for the way he plays football. The guy has essentially
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  Speaker 1: given every ounce of his being to being a Minnesota Viking.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think the team honored that in the
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  Speaker 1: right way. And he's done it countless times now, I think,
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  Speaker 1: where he's, like you said, he gave up a big
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  Speaker 1: chunk of money by letting them release him at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the season. Two years ago, he took a
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  Speaker 1: team-friendly deal to come back. So he's always put the
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  Speaker 1: organization first. And I know a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: out there saying, oh, he's old. Oh, he's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be worth that much. Let the guy have one
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  Speaker 1: more year. Pay him what he's deserving of. And if
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  Speaker 1: we get a great product out of him, awesome. If not,
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  Speaker 1: then we can hopefully ride off into the sunset with
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  Speaker 1: some positive vibes and all will be good. What I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to see happen is I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: see the Adam Thielen like we get... four games, five
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  Speaker 1: games into the season. And he's like, yeah, this isn't
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  Speaker 1: working out. And he just pieces out like, and I,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, I don't think hair. Smith's going to
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  Speaker 1: do that to the team. He's been extremely loyal. He
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  Speaker 1: is without a doubt, ring of honor and most likely
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  Speaker 1: pro football hall of fame. I don't know that there's
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  Speaker 1: anybody that would debate that. So again, pay the guy
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  Speaker 1: what he deserves and, And hope he has a great season.
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  Speaker 1: Hope he stays healthy. That's where I'm going to leave that.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. I think, yeah, $ 12 million, $ 12. 5 million,
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  Speaker 2: $ 16 million, whatever that number ends up being this year,
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  Speaker 2: worth it. It's not like we're talking about paying a
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: rundown safety $ 25 plus million for a final year. I mean, sure,
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  Speaker 2: $ 12 million or $ 16 million is kind of high for
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  Speaker 2: a guy that you're not really sure. But this guy...
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Harrison Smith is the kind of guy that
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  Speaker 2: he's not going to get arrested. He's definitely going to
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  Speaker 2: be a leader in the locker room, on the field,
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  Speaker 2: probably more so valuable on game day. Just being there,
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  Speaker 2: doing his job, making other guys do their job. I
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  Speaker 2: think we mentioned it a thousand times last season, but
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  Speaker 2: I think it was early on last season there was
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  Speaker 2: a specific play where the defense was getting set. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even remember which game it was, but Defense was
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  Speaker 2: getting set, and then right before the ball was snapped,
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  Speaker 2: Harry ran up to, I think, Ivan Pace, and we
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  Speaker 2: just saw him move him or say something, and then
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  Speaker 2: half a second later, Ivan Pace blitzed and got a
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  Speaker 2: sack or a tackle for a loss. It's the kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff like that, even if it's not a play
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  Speaker 2: where he gets an interception or the play ends in
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  Speaker 2: a sack or something like that, Harrison Smith is still
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  Speaker 2: a net positive for being on the field for the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: I think there was a story last year, the year before,
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  Speaker 2: about how like Blake Cashman and Harrison Smith in the
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  Speaker 2: Brian Flores defense, they both kind of have full authority
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  Speaker 2: to do or change or move around any way they
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  Speaker 2: see fit. And not many guys get that kind of authority.
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  Speaker 2: And I would imagine in Brian Flores' defense of all defenses,
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  Speaker 2: not really many guys at all get that kind of authority.
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  Speaker 2: So if Brian Flores trusts you enough for you to
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  Speaker 2: be like, Hey, uh, Harrison, you're supposed to do this
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  Speaker 2: on this play, but you decided to do that. And Hey,
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  Speaker 2: it ended up being an interception. Like that's, that's always
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  Speaker 2: a good thing. So, and like you said, Harrison Smith
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  Speaker 2: throughout his career, he's been a Viking the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: We've never heard him public publicly complain about the team
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  Speaker 2: or his deal or money. I think we've heard multiple
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  Speaker 2: stories throughout the years of, especially in the last few
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  Speaker 2: years about how he has said something to his agent. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even care what the number is. Just get
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  Speaker 2: me back to Minnesota. Like, I just want to make sure,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm back in purple. And that, that really
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  Speaker 2: helps for his legacy. Could he probably have made 10,
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: 20 more million dollars in his career bouncing around and,
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  Speaker 2: and taking bigger paychecks from other teams, maybe even this
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  Speaker 2: off season. I wouldn't be surprised at all. But yeah, Again,
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  Speaker 2: you can't really put a value on a guy like
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  Speaker 2: a C.J. Hamm, like a Harrison Smith, that you don't
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  Speaker 2: have to worry about. You can have him be the
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  Speaker 2: face of your team, whether he's a flashy guy, grabbing
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  Speaker 2: the microphone at the draft party and getting people excited,
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  Speaker 2: or if he's just the silent, steady veteran like Harrison
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  Speaker 2: Smith is. One of my favorite Vikings memories as a
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  Speaker 2: fan is the most recent regular season Vikings game when
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  Speaker 2: towards the end of the game, the Vikings were obviously
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  Speaker 2: going to beat the Packers. Towards the end of the game,
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  Speaker 2: the team or the whole stadium stopped. Yeah, we were there.
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  Speaker 2: And it was something, I forget what the announcer said,
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  Speaker 2: but it was something to the tune of like taking
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  Speaker 2: a timeout or taking a pause in the game to
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  Speaker 2: check out Harrison Smith, basically giving him one last sendoff.
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  Speaker 2: And I had already stood up to turn around to
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  Speaker 2: go to the bathroom and they said that over the
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  Speaker 2: intercom and I immediately turned around, and everybody in that stadium,
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  Speaker 2: except for maybe some Packer fans, were just cheering for him.
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  Speaker 2: It was the standing ovation that it was the end
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  Speaker 2: of a movie, pretty much. Harrison Smith is, true and true,
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  Speaker 2: a Viking, and I couldn't be more excited that he's
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  Speaker 2: back with the team for at least probably one more
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  Speaker 2: last year.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to probably cry a little bit when he leaves.
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  Speaker 1: Not even joking. I think he's been a Viking for...
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  Speaker 1: the most memorable years of my Vikings fanhood. So, again,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: to maybe wrap up this talker, because I think we
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  Speaker 1: could sit here and just gush about the guy the
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  Speaker 1: whole time. But he's the consummate professional. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: kind of shaking up how players exist in this league. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to be the big, flashy, super charismatic,
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  Speaker 1: you know, talking with my hands all the time kind
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  Speaker 1: of guy. Like, you can just be the quiet guy.
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'll say a few words, but they're going
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  Speaker 1: to be really powerful. Um, and I'm also really impactful
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  Speaker 1: on the field, right? Like he lets his play speak
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  Speaker 1: for itself. And I think that's why he's lasted as
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: long as he has, he stayed with one team and
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: he's going to get a nice little paycheck here at
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: the end of his career.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I totally agree.
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  Speaker 1: Um, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And, and how wonderful is this for guys like Jacoby
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  Speaker 2: Thomas and Jacob Thomas, who are rookie safeties, have shown
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: flashes of maybe they could turn into something, but we
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: don't know yet. They haven't played an NFL game. To
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: have Harrison Smith walk into their position room and just,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: like you said, maybe he's not super flashy, which a
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: flashy guy is not bad. I think Josh Metellus leans
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: towards flashy, but it's in a good way. But to
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: have a Harrison Smith and a Josh Metellus in your
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: room as the vets and the leaders is And to
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: be able to just witness and learn whether they're being
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  Speaker 2: directly instructed or not, that's going to pay dividends for
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  Speaker 2: both of those guys and for the Vikings defense for
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  Speaker 2: who knows how many more years. So this is all
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  Speaker 2: a good thing. Thank you, Harry, for coming back.
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  Speaker 1: All right. We have other players we can talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Not that Harrison Smith is bad to talk about. We
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  Speaker 1: love the guy, obviously. Yeah. Um, but we've got some
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  Speaker 1: other players that ended up coming back. There was, there's
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: always that cut down day, um, players being released, players
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  Speaker 1: being re-signed back to the practice squad, this and that. And, um,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: sometimes there's like eyebrow raising moves, like, Hmm, why'd they
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: let that guy go? And then all of a sudden,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: you know, less than 12 hours later, he's back, that
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: sort of thing. And we'll probably never know all the
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: ins and outs. And there's probably some contractual things that
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Nolan Teasley in the, the front office have to deal with. But,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: uh max brosmer is officially back he's on the practice squad.
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  Speaker 2: Not surprised and i'm i'm okay with it practice squad
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: let's keep the guy around there's obviously something there.
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  Speaker 1: And i think that is just uh it's a it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a comforting thing for the vikings to have the
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: quarterback situation figured out right now at least for now
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: right like k1 is the starter JJ's probably the backup,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: although I don't know that we've really gotten a lot
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: of clarity on QB2, QB3.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: We haven't gotten clarity on that, but just to kind
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: of say this really quick, I don't know if we've
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: recorded since Nolan Teasley had his, and maybe we have,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: had his post-cutdown day press conference.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think we have.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think we need to dive deep into this,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: but there was the whole situation where JJ was not
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: playing for the final third preseason game. We assumed it
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: was because of injury, but then a few days later,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Teasley in his press conference, somebody asked him about it,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: and Teasley said, yeah, JJ has practiced fully for the
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: last two days, and that was a week or so ago. So,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I would expect all four quarterbacks
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: on the Vikings to be healthy at this point, and
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: regardless of who's a backup and who's the backup to
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the backup, I think, like you were saying, that's a
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: good room so far. And let's just hope K-1 Kyler
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Murray plays pretty well. And we don't even have to
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: argue about that anymore.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think what I like is now you've
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: got several experienced guys. It's not like a few years
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: ago when JJ was a rookie and it was like, well,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: what do we have? And, you know, it's not that
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: year with Sam Darnold where it's like, well, is he
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: going to revive his career? Is he not? And obviously
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the answer was yes, he did. There's just not a
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: lot of, big question marks that way. I know there's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: maybe some question marks about Kyler Murray. Like, can he
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: do what Sam Darnold did? But I think he's in
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a different spot too. Like, I
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: think he's proven that he can play at a high level.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: He's not bounced around a ton. He's just dealt with injury.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest bug that he's had to
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: deal with. And I think if he can stay healthy,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: we'll get some decent play out of him. And we'll
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: have a quarterback that can run the ball in addition
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to throw, which we haven't seen in Minnesota in a
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: long time. So we've had all these just traditional pocket passers.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: So Max Brosmer coming back was a big one. We've
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: also got some other guys, Dylan Bell and DJ Dallas.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: DJ with two E's, DJ.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: So there's some skill guys that are on the practice squad.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: And then Kyle Van Noy was kind of an interesting
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: pickup for the Vikings and With some Brian Flores connections,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I believe, if I'm not mistaken.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was with Brian Flores in Miami.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: And then also, I believe, they spent some time together
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: in New England. for a few years. And if you
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: look it up, Kyle Van Noy, at some point a
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: handful of years ago, he didn't, like, come out and
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: say bad things about Brian Flores, but it was a
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: situation where, like, he was asked, like, what he thought
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: or how he felt about the coaching. And it was
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: one of those, like, I'm just not going to say
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: anything because he said, like, if I say something good,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: then you guys will know I'm lying and, you know, whatever.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: But if I say something bad, then that's a cancer
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: or whatever. So I'm just not going to say anything.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know if I want
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: to put too much, you know, weight into that. It's
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: a player in a system. Nobody forced him to sign
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: with Minnesota. I think it'll be positive. And he's on
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the practice squad to start, but I would expect him
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: to be pulled up to the main roster within a
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: couple of games. I think it's more of a they're
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: utilizing the tool of the practice squad. We see that
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: every once in a while. A veteran will sign and
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: it'll just be to the practice squad with the idea
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: they'll be pulled up soon.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Something that your little comment there made me think of,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and this is definitely a rabbit trail. Oh, man. Off
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of our very organized outline that keeps us super focused.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: But I like to derail us every once in a while.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I was watching these videos of Julian Edelman. He has
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a podcast and he had, I forget who it was,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: one of the former Patriots offensive linemen.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And this particular guy was a part of the NFL
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Players Association and missed like mini camp at the beginning
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: of the summer to go to NFL PA meetings in
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Hawaii and And Bill Belichick emailed this guy. And this guy,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I don't even know his name. I should probably know
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: his name. But he was like, this is my prized possession.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: This email exchange that I have with Bill Belichick is
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the best thing that I have in my life. Like money, fame, success,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: they're all fine. But this right here. And it goes like,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: this is like a long time ago. So anyways, he
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: describes the email and Bill Belichick was basically just giving
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: him a hard time for like, hey, instead of, you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: living up to life in Hawaii with the Players Association,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the union, basically. Why don't you get here? And yeah,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: it was Matt Light.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: You Googled it.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I did, yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Matt Light just goes on and on about
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: this email exchange. And your comment about Kyle Van Nooy
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: making a comment about Brian Flores, which made me think,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: hypothetically speaking, it would be fascinating to be like, just
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: like a custodial worker in a facility and like get
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the rundown on all of this interpersonal stuff that goes
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: on between these players and coaches. And then like, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: then not only that, but then like be able to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: like go to the break room with your custodial buddies
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and be like, did you hear what that said? Did
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: you hear what they said? Oh my gosh, I can't
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: believe this.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there were a handful of those. Oh my gosh,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I can't believe I just heard that from Mike Zimmer's
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: final year in Minnesota. Oh yeah. And I'll still always
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: wonder what Kirk said to Zimmer when he grabbed his
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: shirt and yelled, I just won your job or something
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: like that. I don't know.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe someday, like in retirement or something, we can
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: just move up to the Twin Cities and we can
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: get some jobs at the TCO Performance Center and we
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: can just You know, be around. And then we can, like,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: create these alias Twitter accounts and leak all of this information. Like, oh, hey,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: by the way, Harrison Smith's going to come back tomorrow.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: For the 30th year. If we retire, man, no. All right.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Anyways, that was a great rabbit trail. Coming back to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: what we were talking about.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: We've also got some captains that were announced.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Every team seemed to announce all their captains at the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: same time. right after the initial 53 was announced and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the Vikings are no different.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: And I don't think this list is a surprise to anybody. Um, I,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: if I think of the leaders on the team, these
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: are the guys that I think of Justin Jefferson, Aaron Jones,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Brian O'Neill, Blake Cashman, Josh Metellus, Andrew Van
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Ginkle and Andrew DePaula.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I think new captains would be Kyler Murray, obviously.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Um, o'neill maybe or was he i think.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: O'neill's been a captain for a long time um not
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: to just be like oh you're cashman though let me
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: see i can cashman and metellus and van ginkle i
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: would guess because they're all relatively new to the team
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: yeah i'm not gonna be able to find it quick
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: but i think van ginkle for sure kyler murray for
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: sure and then yeah i think maybe cashman i think
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: metellus has been a captain for a little bit too
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: but um yeah that i'm not surprised by any of
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: this It's notable just because he's new and he's a
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: big name, but Kyler Murray, I mean, it's important to
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: see that the team voted him as a captain, which
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: if you're the named starter at quarterback and you're not
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: voted as a captain, that would be a huge story.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: J.J.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: McCarthy was voted as a captain last season. I think
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: it's almost a given, and you'd have to try really
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: hard as QB1 players to not be voted as a captain,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: but still important. He was voted and, uh, should be noted. So, um,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Andrew Van Ginkle, uh, another small thing is I believe
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: he's entering the final year of his deal. Um, and
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: to be named a captain there, like you're obviously being told, Hey,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: you're a very important part of this team. Maybe the
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: team should lock him up a little bit longer. So, uh,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: but that's conversations for probably, you know, either if it
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: happens randomly throughout the season or definitely as free agency
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: comes up after this season. But, Yeah, I'm not surprised
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: by any of these. Is there anybody you think should
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: have been named a captain that wasn't?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think if Harrison Smith would have
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: been on the team when the 53-man roster was released,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: then he probably is on this list. And I think
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: he even gets probably, like, an honorary nod. Like, he
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: might not be an official captain on any paperwork, but, like,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: just in terms of his leadership, we already talked about
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: him earlier. Mm-hmm. he's got all of those qualities. Now
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: here's a question I have. If let's say Kyler Murray
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: goes down due to injury, uh, and let's say JJ
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: McCarthy comes in, uh, to relieve him, does that make
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: him a captain or is Kyler Murray the captain, even
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: though he's no longer playing dealing with injury or because
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: he got benched or whatever?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, I was actually just kind of looking
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: this up now, and maybe I should have done the
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: research beforehand, but I don't know if there's like specific
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: NFL mandated rules on captaincy. I'm pretty sure there was
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: a point last season where there were at least one
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: or two guys that were captains that ended up, you know,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: towards middle or end of the season, ended up on
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: the injured reserve. And so it was big news when
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: other guys were voted captains for the first time. I'm
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: probably wrong, but I think that's how Josh Metellus earned
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: his first captain vote was around that time. It was, hey,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: we need an on-the-field captain, and so-and-so is out for
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: the rest of the year, and he can't fulfill those duties,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: so we need to elect a new one. I would
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: not think J.J. McCarthy would, even if he did come
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: in and started a few games, and Kyler Murray, I mean,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: it would have to be for injury or something. I
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: don't think J.J. would immediately just out of nowhere automatically
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: take that captain role. But if it was something like, hey,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray played and then broke his leg or something,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: he's totally out, and then we have a scenario where J.J.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: comes in and plays well, it could be something like
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: that scenario I was just talking about with, I think,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Josh Metellus, where I think teams can name captains at
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: any point. I know it looks like the Vikings named, what,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: four or eight captains total? I don't know if that's
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: a max that they can name. I don't know if
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: they have to name a certain amount. I'm not really sure.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: But it's just a fun thing to keep an eye on. Yeah,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: You didn't really take the bait. I was dangling it
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: out there for you because I wanted to see what
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you would say about that situation playing out in real life.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'll answer it kind of with what I said.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Like if for some reason J.J. McCarthy ended up as
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: the QB1 again this season... maybe, I don't know, then
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: played well or kept the job and kept the ship afloat,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: then you could throw a captain's patch on anybody, I guess.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: We're a family-friendly program here.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Kept the ship afloat.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I know. It's all good.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Are we going to have our first bleep of the
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: whole thing?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: So, do you think that there's a scenario... Let's just
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: say percentage-wise that J.J. McCarthy comes in.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I thought we were done arguing about this, Ed. I
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: think it's non-zero percent chance that he starts a game
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: this season.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's literally... So you're saying that J.J. McCarthy
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: will start a game this season?
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I just said it's a non-zero percent. I'm not saying
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: it's 100% chance he's going to start a game, but
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: if you gave me an over-under and put it at half...
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: meaning he either starts zero or more than zero, I'd
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: take the over.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Um, just, So you're saying he will start a game.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: You're kind of dancing around the issue.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: If I had to put money on it, yes. I
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: would say there's a good chance, and if I have
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: to say yes or no, there's a really good chance that, yes,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: he will start a game this year.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, I see you're J.J. McCarthy, and I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: raise you a Kyler Murray. Okay. And I would like
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to make a bet. Okay. What do you got? You
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: still have your nine jersey. Oh, yeah.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I got it. I got it. It's actually, you know,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: it's in this room right now.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I want you to wear your nine jersey every episode
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: until J.J. McCarthy starts a game for the Vikings.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: So, like, the opposite of what I was doing where
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I wore it until.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: So, now we're flipping that on its head.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Okay. And then when he starts... Well, that kind of
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: goes back to my earlier, you know, previous mindset of
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I was wearing the jersey until he was named not
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the starter. Do I just wear the jersey now from
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: now on?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I think now it's even funnier because he's not
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the starter and you're going to be stuck wearing it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like Barney Stinson's ducky tie in How
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I Met Your Mother.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: All right, so I'll put it on and I'll wear
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: it until he starts a game.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: What if they, like, trade him away?
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: All right, if he's not on the team anymore, then
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that's off.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: But this could be either two weeks or maybe he's
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: a backup on this team for years to come and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: never starts another game. All right, you know what?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: But when he does start a game, because it's going
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: to happen. Injuries alone, that's why he's going to start.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: You have to take a shot at Malortin.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Deal. Huzzah. And he's going to go get the jersey
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: right now. Look at that. On-air production meeting. Alright, there
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: it is. He's coming back with it. The McCarthy jersey
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: lives on.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Alright. Got the McCarthy jersey. This was not planned either,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: by the way. I just have had it in my backpack.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: There we go all right it's a done deal.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: All right well now i have my skull hop outfit
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: yep i don't have to worry about what i'm wearing
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: and i just covered up one of our skull hop
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: shirts that people can pick up at tpublic.com slash the
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: skull hop if they want to shameless.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Plug yeah they finally came out with like the dry.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Fit yeah i've had the the dry fit that's nice
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: athletic material for a while so yeah all right i
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: guess i'm wearing the the mccarthy jersey is back and
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: you know this works because this is the.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Classic and that's what they're wearing week one yeah so
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: this will be good speaking of week one let's talk
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: about vikings packers.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: You have no idea how excited i am to finally
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: be talking about a real nfl game not pre-season not
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: practice we're not talking about practice practice we're talking about
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: week one we're doing the packer preview which I kind
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: of wish I hadn't have said that. That seems really cheesy.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: You sound like Paul Allen a little bit.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: No, I think there is a Packer preview show on KFN. But, yeah, Evan,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: how excited are.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: You about this? I'm super excited. Like you said, I'm
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: ready for some real football. It was great to watch
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: some college football over the weekend. I was really looking
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: forward to that as well. I don't, like, obsess over
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: college football the way a lot of people do. I
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: just like to have it on, and I like to just,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: after a busy day or whatever, I like to come home,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I like to turn it on, and I like to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: just chill and watch some games. Football is the best.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I was pumped they even had games on Sunday this
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: last weekend.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: How about that, really quick, how about that Michigan game?
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Did you see the end of that?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch it live, but of course I saw
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: all the stuff about it the day after, and I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think the clock that we view as
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: viewers is different than the clock in the stadium. The
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: clock in the stadium is the official clock and it's
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: run by a human and humans make mistakes. And I
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think both teams have a case. I
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: think it's an unfortunate case of David versus Goliath and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Goliath has a little bit more clout in the system
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and Michigan recently won a national championship and they're in
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: arguably one of the biggest, most successful conferences in college football.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: And I think there's some stuff there that is beyond
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: even Michigan's control. Um, and they're like, Hey, this was,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: this was a game that Michigan had to win. So
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: they made sure they won it. I don't know. I'm
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: not a conspiracy theorist necessarily. Um, but I think at
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, uh, The lesson I learned
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: as a football fan is the clock that we see
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: on TV is not real. It's fake. It's only accurate
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: some of the time. And you got to go with
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: what's going on in the stadium. And the officials must
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: have come to some sort of consensus that there needed
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to be one second put back on the clock. So
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: that's what they decided. They have to stand by it.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: And Western Michigan lost the game.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I agree with you completely. I don't
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: know how completely genuine it all was. I think Michigan,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: like you kind of alluded to, I think Michigan got
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt a little bit. But at
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, too, it's not like they
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: threw a bomb and it was called a penalty. And
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I know this isn't how that penalty would work in college,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: but in the NFL, if you threw committed pass interference
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: in the end zone on a long bomb, the offense
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: would get the ball, like, at the one, right? Because
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: it's a spot foul. And so it's not like Michigan
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: was handed the ball at the one. They still had
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: to throw, like, a 50-yard bomb.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: They threw another Hail Mary attempt and converted. And it worked.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. Neither of us are Michigan fans.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Fred of the show Forest is a diehard Michigan fan.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, and I'm sure he's got his own opinions,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: and he's entitled to those. I also think in those
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: David Goliath games at the beginning of the college football
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: season– There's a lot of money tied up in that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Those little schools are getting paid a lot of money
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to lose to the big schools. So if you're Western Michigan,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: you're not going to sit there and feel sorry for
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: yourself for too long.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I think they're mad.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Well, they can be mad, but I think they can't
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: be mad for too long because they got paid a
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: lot of money, and that money is going to fund
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: their entire athletic department for a while. I don't know
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: how long that is. I don't have access to those numbers,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: but I would venture to guess it's like It's all sports.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: It's their coaches' salaries. It's NIL money for the big players.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: It's operation costs to turn the lights on and keep
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: stuff going for at least a few months. It's a
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: big chunk of their budget. And when you're a small
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: school like that and you're relying on those big games,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: you don't care about the outcome at the end of
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the day, especially if you're an AD. You don't care
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: about that. You're just like, thanks for the money. We'll
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: play you again next year if you want. Yeah.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that it's not our team that we're
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: having to defend a win or be mad about a
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: loss like that. Our team, though, they host the Packers
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: in less than a week. The next time we're on
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: these mics, we'll be either celebrating or bemoaning the game.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: And like.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I said, I couldn't be more excited about it. I
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: pulled some Vegas numbers. The way they sit right now,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: we're recording Tuesday the 8th. So still quite a few
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: days away. We haven't seen the first injury reports. We
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: haven't really seen any actual injury official information at all
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: from the team, I don't think. We've, to my knowledge,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: only currently seen one unofficial depth chart released a handful
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago. So we don't even know and again
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: not that it matters but we don't know things like
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: who really is qb2 um i think when we do
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: get that depth chart which could come tomorrow um it'll
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: probably say something sneaky like qb2 is carson wentz or
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: jj mccarthy again not that that matters but still we
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: there's a lot we don't know officially about the vikings
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: yet or the packers um but so far According to
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: DraftKings earlier today, the Vikings are favored by a point
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and a half, which is interesting. I know teams get
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a nudge for being the home team,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: but it's kind of interesting. I mean, I don't know
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: if they're taking into account the final game of last year,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: which I don't think you can because the Packers weren't
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: really playing any of their starters.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: They were sitting everybody for the playoffs.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Um, and the over under for the, this upcoming game, uh,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: is 46 and a half total points. Uh, I think
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty general line. That's like Vegas kind of
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: telling the, like, eh, it could be this could be that.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: What do you think? Um, what are your thoughts? Do
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: you have a lot of confidence in the Vikings being
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: favorited at all? I, I think the one and a
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: half point, I think you told me this actually, cause
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't get into the over-under.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I don't get into the Vegas stuff. I don't put
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: money on games. yeah um but i think you told
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: me that home teams basically automatically get the half point
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: i think it or maybe it's even more than that
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: i think you know general knowledge is like the home
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: team just you get three points just for being the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: home team sure so if you ever see a home
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: team like the underdogs by like 25 points That means
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Vegas thinks like they're going to lose by really four touchdowns,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: but they get that home team nudge. So like maybe
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: this is Vegas saying like if everything was a total even,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: you know, neutral site, everything we know is all true,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: then the Packers would really be favored by a point
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and a half. But since the Vikings get that nudge
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: of three points, that puts the Vikings over the top.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: That's kind of a general rule. Well, I think I'm
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: kind of with Vegas on this one. I'm kind of.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Split down the middle. I looked back at our Purple
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Punishments predictions. Yeah. And you and I both have this
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: as a win for the Vikings, which I'm optimistic for.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here super negative, super pessimistic right now.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: But there's still a little bit of uncertainty. It's just
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: kind of one of those. It's not. Like, I'm not
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: worried about Kyler Murray. I already said that. I like
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: the skill players we have. I like the offensive line.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping they can stay healthy. I love our defense.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I think the defense is going to be just killer
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: this year. I think it's going to be a great defense.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: But it's just one of those things where you just
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: don't know what you've got, right, until you go out
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: and play. It's like I deal with the same thing
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: as a coach, and we've had some really hot weather,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: so we haven't had a lot of– Oh, yeah. we
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: haven't had a lot of chances for my team to
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: go out and compete. And I was telling people earlier
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: this week, like, I just don't know what I have
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: in my team yet. Like I've, I've had them out
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, but it's just not enough for
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: me to really understand where we are totally. Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: And I think that's how I feel about the Vikings too.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Like I just need to see him play on Sunday
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: and I need to see how this defense reacts to,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I think a pretty good offense. I don't think it's like,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And the Packers? Yeah, I don't think it's a lights-out
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: offense that the Packers have. And I would say the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: same for the defense, too. I don't think their defense
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: is just going to absolutely dominate the Vikings' offense. And
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: that's what makes me think it's going to be a
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: fairly even game. I think it could be a good back-and-forth,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and it could be one of those games that comes
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: down to coaching, clock management, and whoever gets the ball
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: at the end of the game.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I know the Packers already, right now we
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: know for sure they have two stars in that will
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: not be playing in this game, one on offense and
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: one on defense. The defense, Micah Parsons, we've known for
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: a while that he would not be available for this game.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: He's still coming back from that, was it ACL injury
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: from last year? He will be back this season from
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: what it sounds like, but it's going to be five,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: six-ish weeks in until he's back. So he's out this week.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: And then Josh Jacobs, who is dealing with the allegations of,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I don't even know, just domestic violence. Um, I don't
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: know enough details to really talk to it, but I
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: do know he's on the commissioner's exempt list now and
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: for sure will not be back for the game against
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the Vikings. And who knows how much longer that'll be
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: if ever. Um, but there's, I mean, just football wise,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: if you're just talking about on the field stuff, those
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: are two big pieces of the team for the Packers
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: that will not be on, on the field. The Vikings,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's week one and things could
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: change in an instant. But the Vikings, publicly at least,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: don't have really any injuries to be concerned about. I'd
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: be interested to know if they're comfortable enough with Harrison
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Smith and his conditioning and his abilities right now to
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: be ready to play. For all we know, he's been...
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: get like, he's been there all off season. He's been
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: conditioning and getting ready. And it's been this unspoken agreement, like,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: all right, Hey, on this date, you know, we're going
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: to announce that you're back, but I know you don't
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: want to come to training camp. And so you don't
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: want to go through all that. So we'll just wait
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: until then. Or it's, it could have just been like
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: the Vikings could have been just as in the dark
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: as we were. I would assume they had more knowledge,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: but stuff like this i know last year harrison smith
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: he came back earlier it was announced earlier in training
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: camp that he was coming back but he missed some
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: training camp time to some kind of injury that was
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: never really put out there publicly but he missed some
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: time i don't even know if it was an injury
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: it could have.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Been illness could have been a family thing yeah.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: But and i do know he was not active for
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: week one against the bears last year um but he
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: did play in 15 games so A lot of pieces
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: we don't know about yet. Evan, I'm going to ask
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: for your official, we have our predictions that we made
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: a few weeks ago about all the games, but I
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: will ask for your official, you know, win loss and points.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: But before we get there, when I was looking up
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: the betting lines earlier, I kind of took down some numbers.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: DraftKings didn't have too clean of like, hey, this player
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: is going to get this many yards. They kind of
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: had a range and then like a betting probability of
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: hitting that range. So I kind of took that information
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: and put together some lines. And Evan, I want to
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: ask for these players if you think these are realistic numbers.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: So first off, Kyler Murray starting his first game with
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings. We've never seen Kyler Murray in a
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell offense throwing to Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: and handing off to Aaron Jones and We've never seen
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: him in purple. We saw him against the Giants in preseason.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: But DraftKings kind of alluded to the fact that they
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: kind of think good numbers for Kyler Murray would be
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: about 230 passing yards and about two passing touchdowns. Evan,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: do you think those are numbers that we could see?
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Are they... you know, sky high and to the moon
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: and those are completely unrealistic or maybe he's going to
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: play a little bit better. I don't know. What are
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on those numbers?
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I think I'll take the over on that. I think
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: at least in terms of yards and probably touchdowns too.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of weapons to throw too,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: which I like. I think Justin Jefferson is hungry. Oh yeah.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Like he's just ready to go out and, absolutely light
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: up this Packers defense I think he's been licking his
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: chops um I think we could see he wasn't allowing
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: it to boil over but I think you could see
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit of the impatience bubbling up beneath the
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: surface a little bit with him last year with JJ
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: McCarthy he didn't have a great year and even um
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: several years ago he was injured missed some playing time
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: and was still able to rack up a thousand yards
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: and I know we'll get to Justin Jefferson in a
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: second but um I think Kyler Murray's going to find
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: him early and often, even with the Packers secondary draping
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: him in coverage the whole time. But the other thing
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray's going to have that I don't know
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: that he's ever really had in Arizona is he's going
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: to have two other really high-quality receivers to throw to
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: when Justin Jefferson is double-teamed down the field, right? So
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: when you've got two guys covering one guy, that means
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: something else is probably going to be open, and I
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: think Jawan Jennings and Jordan Addison— are going to have
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: a heyday that way too. I could see Kyler Murray
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: throwing for upwards of 300 yards.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: I think the opportunities are going to be there.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: And I think all three of those guys, Jefferson, Addison,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: and Jennings, could end up in the 100-yard realm pretty easily.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: And I just don't think that the Packers' defense is
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: quite ready for that. I think a big key to
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: that will be the offensive line holding and giving that
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: protection for Kyler Murray. But what we also know about
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: him is he can create with his feet. And I
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: think if he chooses to get out of the pocket,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: extend the play, and then throw it, I think we've
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: got a lot of good opportunities. If he decides to
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: extend the play on his own and not throw it,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: it might not be as great for those receivers, obviously.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to take the over on 230 passing yards.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I might even take the over on touchdowns, too. I'm
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: going to say three touchdowns. Close to 300 yards. Maybe
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: not quite, but close to 300 yards and three touchdowns
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: for K1.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see how that works. Everything you said, I
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: completely agree with. And I think you've hit the nail
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: on the head when you mentioned the offensive line. I
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: think everything about the offensive line that we know, there's
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: no questions other than center. And if that center position
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: is better than you and I think it probably could
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: or should be, if that offensive line holds up at all,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: This team is soaring this year. I'm very high on
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: the Vikings this year, and I'm a homer, and I
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: know that means not much. But I think the biggest
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: question mark and the biggest linchpin on this being a
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: good team or a frustrating 9-8 team like they were
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: last year is if this offensive line starts every game
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: together and plays well, which I know is a lot
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: to ask, and it probably won't happen. But if that
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: does happen, this team– The offense is going to be unbeatable,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: and we know how good the defense is. For Kyler Murray,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: numbers wise, I would be really good with these numbers
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: if it was like 230 total yards instead of just
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: 230 passing yards. I mean, I totally agree with everything
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: you said about the weapons and his abilities, but it's
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: also the first game and it'll be the first time
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: they're playing a full game in a game together. I
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: know practice is valuable and I know they've played three
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: hours of football at once together, but they've never played
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: in a game with strategy against another team who's also strategizing.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: And say what you want about the Packers, I think
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: overall they're not the world beaters they have been in
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: other years. But I do think LeFleur is a good coach,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: and I think Jordan Love is a good enough quarterback.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: They're a good team. We can't be looking past them.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I think the over-under of 46 and a half points
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: is probably pretty accurate. Um, and I think the Vikings
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: being slightly favored is pretty realistic, but I'd be more
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: comfortable with Kyler's numbers if it was like 230 total
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: yards mixed with rushing and passing. Um, but yeah, three touchdowns.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't think that would be hard to
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: see at all. He's, he's shown that he could do
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: that and he could, he could easily get a touchdown.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Um, With his legs.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's why I think if, if you wrap it
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: all into total numbers, you know, rushing and passing, I
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: think that'd be really good numbers for him and probably realistic,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: but you might be right. And I I'm with you.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: And realistically 230 and 300 in the grand scheme of things,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that's one different good drive compared to the other. So yeah.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Next up, Justin Jefferson, uh, betting, betting wise, um, They're
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: kind of saying we should be expecting around 80 receiving
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: yards from him. And then he is plus 160 to
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: score a touchdown. So that's, there are exact numbers. Usually
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: 100 is 50-50. So if he's like plus 110, anytime
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: you're plus, then that means it'd be a good thing
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: if you did that and you're not really expected to.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: If you're minus, then you are expected to, if that
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: makes sense. So being plus 160, still pretty close to 100.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: It's one of those, like, we're not surprised if he
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: does score a touchdown, but not surprised if he doesn't.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: And Justin Jefferson has never been a touchdown machine. We
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: know that, especially in recent years. I think in his
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: early years, probably the first two or three years of
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: his career, he was scoring more touchdowns. And you can
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: look up the stats to maybe... Back me up. I'm
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: just going off of my memory here.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Well, last year he got two receiving touchdowns.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. Like, even with Sam Darnold,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: he wasn't a touchdown machine. He scored some touchdowns.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: He's gotten 10 touchdowns in a season twice, 2024 with
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold and 2021 with Kirk Cousins. And I believe
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: 2021 is when he was named. Oh, no, it was 2022.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: He was named Offensive Player of the Year. But usually seven, eight.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: ish touchdowns is what he's good for. He got five
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: touchdowns in 23 and then two touchdowns last year. So yeah, again,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: this is not a guy that we're expecting to break
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: the receiving touchdown record unless maybe, you know, he gets
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: a quarterback that they just are unstoppable together. But yeah,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: I guess to keep with your point.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he, like I said, he's not this
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: touchdown machine. but he's a yardage guy. I think that's
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: where we see him excel. I think back to the
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Bills game a couple years ago, that historic overtime win
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: against the Bills. I don't think he scored a touchdown
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: in that game, or at least not when it really
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: mattered at the end of the game. He didn't score
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. But he converted that gigantic fourth down in
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. It was fourth and long. It was
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: fourth and more than 10. I remember that.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I have his stats from that game. he was targeted
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: 16 times 10 catches 193 yards good good memory there
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: one touchdown catch but remember at the end when the
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: vikings couldn't convert a touchdown and then it turned into
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: that fumble that the bills had on the goal line
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: that the vikings recovered um he did catch the ball
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: to put it within like a couple yards of the
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: end zone there so he was really close to another touch.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Well and i remember paul allen's call was like jj
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: caught it and he paid for it or something like
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: that like Um, but I guess the point I'm trying
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: to make is he finds the end zone and he will,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm very confident that he will get in
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: the end zone this year. Maybe not to the tune
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: of 10 touchdowns, but he will get in the end
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: zone this year. Um, he's a yardage guy though. He's
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: the guy that's going to get those key first downs.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: He's the guy that's going to go out there when
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: you're going forward on fourth and you know where the
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: ball's going to go. Everybody in the stadium knows where
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: the ball's going to go. And he just goes up
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: and makes a play because that's the type of player
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: he is. So, I would still say there's probably a
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: likelihood that he scores a touchdown. Like I said earlier,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: he's hungry. He's eager. He's excited to have some fresh
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: blood at the quarterback position after going through kind of
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: this roller coaster of Kirk, then Sam, then all these backups,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: and then the roller coaster that is J.J. McCarthy in
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: and of himself, and So to get a little bit
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: more consistency there, I think he's hungry for it, and
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to show out. I think he's
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: going to put those moves on the defenders. He's going
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: to get himself open, and I think he's good for
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: at least a touchdown.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Those numbers, 80 yards receiving and a touchdown,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I'd probably, if I had to modify it, I'd say
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: I'd be comfortable with 100 yards receiving, and then if
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I had to say yes or no on a TD,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: I'd probably say no, but that's just because he only
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: got two last year. But I mean, an interesting thing
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: to do, and maybe we can keep track of these
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: numbers and bet some magical, you know, theoretical money. Every week,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: see what the odds are, you know, right at game
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: time of JJ to score a touchdown. And because right now,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: if you bet $ 100 for JJ to score a touchdown,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: he's 160 to actually do it. If he did... it
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: would pay out $ 160. So you get your money back
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: plus 60. So then the next week, if you took
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: that 160 to bet him to score a touchdown, if
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: it's a similar amount, you just keep going up and up.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I wonder what that would look like at the end
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: of the season. Maybe I can keep track of that.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: But it's almost like a good bet to see. It's
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: probably going to pay out. You're probably going to win
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: money at the end of the season rather than not
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: every game if you bet him to score one touchdown.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: But Yeah, I think he'll be good this year, and
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I think as long as the QB play is stable,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: just stable, it doesn't even have to be MVP level,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: then Jefferson is going to get his yards for sure,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: touchdowns will come.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: You've got two more players on the list here.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're both running backs. I guess all of
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: these were offensive player numbers, but it's easier to bet
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: on offensive player numbers. First one, Jordan Mason. It's saying
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: we should expect around 45 rushing yards. And his odds
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: to score a touchdown are a little bit better than
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson. He's at plus 145. Actually, that's, oh yeah,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: a little bit better to score a touchdown. So very
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: similar odds. Evan, what do you think about 45 rushing
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: yards for Jordan Mason?
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's low. But we'll get to Aaron Jones
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: here in a second. I think his number is also low,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: but I also know that the Vikings offensive line just
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: struggled in the run game last year, and so neither
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: of these guys were putting up these banner numbers. If
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: I had to pick one or the other that's going
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: to rush for more yards, I would pick Jordan Mason.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: He's younger. His legs are a little bit fresher. Aaron Jones,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: great guy, great team guy, and he's still a good
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: run guy. Yeah, and team captain. And he's still a
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: good running back. He's not washed up. He still has legs.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: We can say that. But if I had to put
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: money on who's going to accrue more yards, I'm going
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: to say Jordan Mason. I think 45 is just really low.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I think if this, again, we come back to the
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: offensive line, if they're kind of what they're supposed to
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: be and they do what they're expected to do, then
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I think... one of your backs is looking at least
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: at 75 yards. And I know the Vikings haven't, especially
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: under Kevin O'Connell, they haven't had a solid rushing attack.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not this 100-plus yards a game type
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: of thing and we don't run the ball down your
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: throat kind of offense. But I don't know. I just
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: think 45 seems really low. I also like one of
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: those two running backs to score a touchdown, Aaron Jones
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: or Jordan Mason. So I'm going to put money on
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: one of those two guys to do that. I don't
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: know who it is, but, yeah, I like them. I
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: could see a similar situation to the Bills game we
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: were just alluding to where they get themselves in position
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: down near the goal line, and then one of those
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: two guys– punches it in or makes a nice move
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: and gets to the outside, finds the pylon and it's done.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: yeah um so i think the yardage total is a
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: little low i think the probability to score a touchdown
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: is pretty spot on.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah so i agree with you i think jordan mason
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: i would have guessed you know 50 or more yards
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: for sure but i think i know what vegas is
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: doing um and i think you do too you just
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: were gonna let me say the numbers for aaron jones
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: here too but Just to kind of put my entire
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: thoughts together, I'll say Aaron Jones is also expected, you know,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: we should expect, according to Vegas, about 30 rushing yards
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: and slightly better odds to score a touchdown at plus 135.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: So overall, I think Vegas is looking at Aaron Jones
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: and Jordan Mason kind of together as the total RB1
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: for the Vikings. So if you put those together, 75
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: rushing yards and probably favored for at least one rushing touchdown,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: which is basically exactly what you were just saying, um,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: just about Jordan Mason. So I think the combination of
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason, we should totally be expecting.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: I'll even say this, this Vikings team, especially against a
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Packer team without, um, Micah Parsons, um, If the offensive line,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: which we both said was kind of the key to
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: this team this year, if the Vikings' offensive line holds up,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: we should be looking for at least a total of
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: 100 rushing yards from running backs. I know Kyler Murray
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: adds that zest of being a shifty mobile quarterback as well,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: which that'll be free rushing yards whenever we get them.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think between Jordan Mason and Aaron Jones...
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Against the Packers, it's not crazy to think about 100
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: yards rushing and a touchdown rushing. And then if you
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: look overall in the season, I think between those two guys,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: I think we have, if it really is an even
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: split of they're both the RB1, then between the two
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: of them, we'd have 1,000-ish rushing yards, probably 1,300-ish rushing yards,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: and probably around that 10 to 15 rushing touchdowns. I
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: think This year of all years, Aaron Jones getting up
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: in age a little bit. What is he, 32-ish? And
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: he missed a handful of games last season. He played
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: in and started 12 games. So I guess he only
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: missed five games last year.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: He's 31 currently, but he'll turn 32 this year.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, so between Jordan Mason and Aaron Jones, I'll just
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: say right now, I think those two guys together are
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: RB1 for the Vikings. And we'll see... I'm really excited
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: to see this first official depth chart that'll come out
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: probably before we record, well, definitely before we record our
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: next podcast, but maybe within a few hours of releasing
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: this episode. I think we're going to see Jordan Mason
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: or Aaron Jones when we see that RB1. And I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: think both of them together will be the RB1 to
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: combine for over 1,000 yards and 10 to 15 touchdowns.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: So you've spent way more time thinking about these numbers
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: than i have i basically just like gave my off
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: the cuff responses to these questions but given all of
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: the things that we've talked about what are your what's
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: your score prediction and how do you justify like you
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: know if you're saying kyler murray's going to throw for
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: 230 and two touchdowns jj that is justin jefferson uh
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: is going to get 80 yards and probably score a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: receiving touchdown. Um, what's your score prediction?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: So I think Vegas is very close. Um, for purple
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: punishments purposes, I believe we both predicted a win. Um,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: for this week right now, my, you know, right before
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: the game prediction, I'm still saying a win over the Packers. Um, importantly,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: when I had made my preseason predictions for the purple punishments.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: That was a lot of P words. Um, I also
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: gave score predictions, which I'll update as well throughout the season,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: but also say like, Hey, for the purple punishments, I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: thought the Vikings would win and score this many. Uh,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I still feel good about what I said the score
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: for this game would be. I think it's going to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: be like 21 to 15 or something like that, which
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: is slightly under that 46 and a half total that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Vegas said. um, 46 and a half would put both
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: teams scoring 23 points, you know, or give or take. Uh,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: so I think it'll be slightly less because the Flores defense,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: I think is just going to be solid all year.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Keep teams slightly less, uh, point totals than most people
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: would think. And then I think the Vikings, at least
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: the first few games, they got to mesh together. Uh,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: like I said, Kyler Murray has practiced a lot with
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: the Vikings and he's definitely QB one and He's got
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of talent, but he's never played a full
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: game with Justin Jefferson, with Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: with his offensive line. So I think it might take
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but I think we're going to see
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: three touchdowns from the Vikings and the defense is just
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: going to hold strong. And we may even be talking
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: a week from now about kind of a boring win.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Like this isn't going to be some high-flying, crazy, you know,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: beat the crap out of the other team. It'll just
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: be a solid victory. So 21-15 Vikings for me. Evan,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: your thoughts?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's a win also. I'm not going to
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: switch on my original prediction. I said that they would
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: win several weeks ago. I'm going to hold with that.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going to disagree with you, though. I think it's
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: going to be an exciting game. Okay. I mean, it
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: could be a game where it comes down to literally
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: one second.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe. Or hopefully the home team gets an extra second. Right, right, right.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: No, I think 24-23. I think the Packers are still
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: a good team.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: And....
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately for the Vikings I think the Packers will come
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: back with a vengeance later on in the season and
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: the Vikings have to go to Lambeau in November I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: think oh yeah so it's gonna be my wife's birthday
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: they're a little colder um so I think that game
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: will be a little different we'll see um it's still
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: September right now we've got a long ways to go
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: until we get there but I'm gonna say 24 23
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the over just slightly just barely just
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: barely on the over um I think you get three
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: touchdowns out of the Vikings as well, but you also
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: get a Will Reichard field goal.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: He's coming.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: And I think that field goal comes in in the
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: last little bit.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: That one more second. Yeah.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, if we're getting super specific, I think the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Vikings are losing 21-23 with not much time left to go.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Will the thrill puts it in from a decent ways out.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Dude, I hope we can clip out what you just said.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: and have that just be our opening for next week.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be amazing? And I think, I'm just going
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: to add to that, I think Kyler Murray or one
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: of the running backs gets a touchdown with their legs.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: I think there's one rushing touchdown, and then I think
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: there's a few passing touchdowns.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Sweet. I hope you're right. I hope we're both right.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: A win is a win no matter what. A friend
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: of the show for us would tell you that right
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: now about his favorite Michigan team. I hope the Vikings
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: are 1-0 after this week, and It's always fun to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: beat the Packers. We've got front of the show Blue,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: who's on our side, and front of the show Tim,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: who he's a cheesehead. So I hope he's crying next week.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: I hope I get some snarky tweet from him. He
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: sends me some reels. He sent me one recently of
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: a short stature person fighting or attempting to fight a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: bunch of regular... sized people. And the short stature person
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: had the superimposed face of Kyler Murray on him. And
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: the other people had, you know, jerseys of the other
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: teams and stuff. So I hope Tim is wrong. And
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: I hope the Vikings win every game, obviously. And I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: want them to let me get my kids ice cream
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: this week.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot about the ice cream thing. That's important.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Another important thing. We have solidified our purple punishments. That
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: will be back, hopefully. We don't have to spin because
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: if the Vikings lose, we're both spinning next week. Yeah.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: But the wheel is set. We went over the wheel,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many episodes ago now.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Two or three.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Two or three episodes ago. So go back and find
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: that episode. We walked through all of the purple punishments
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: on the wheel.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: We have all of the supplies, I believe.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: So we're ready to go. I hope you have to
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: spin at one point and eat the spicy thing. We have...
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: We've acquired the world's spiciest gummy bear. We have two
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: of those in case both of us have to spin that.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: That sounds terrible.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: I really want you to eat that. I want you
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: to have a piece of candy there, Ev.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: This product is extremely spicy and has the potential to
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: cause skin and or mouth irritation.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Well, just don't get it on your skin and or mouth.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: You just have to eat it. We have got some
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Bean Boozled.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Bean Boozled? Dude.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: This might be the worst one we have this year.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: You think so?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Dude, the bad ones are so bad.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Are you going to puke?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: One of them is literally barf. And they're terrible. It
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: just attaches itself to the inside of your mouth. It's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: just awful.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: We have the chicken of the sea.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the sardines. I'm surprised I haven't broken into that.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I've had that thing for a year. I bought that
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: can for last year's Purple Punishments. Good thing they keep
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: for a while. Yeah, I think we're good for like
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: two or three more years, honestly. Best by April 11th
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: of 2028. There you go. So yeah, we're prepared for
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Purple Punishments. It'll be a good season. Evan, something else
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: that has been very good.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: This beer.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: This freaking beer.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: It's a good beer.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Alluvial knows what they're doing, and it pains me because
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I think they're probably just a bunch of Cyclone fans.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: I think when you go up to Ames, is it
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: next weekend? A couple weeks from now? Whenever you go.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: A couple weeks from now. Yeah, not this coming weekend,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: but the one after.
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  Speaker 1: You need to find Alluvial. It's a little off the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: beaten path. But if you're going with a friend of
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: the show, Forrest.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if I tell him, hey, there's a good brewery
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: around here, he'll sniff it out.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: He'll find it.
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  Speaker 2: We're hitting up Oktoberfest over there, too.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, nice. It'll be good.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: If you're not busy, you could always join us.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: I know this is literally the busiest stretch of your
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: entire first couple of months of the school year and everything.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super busy. But we'll see. We'll see.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: But this beer, the Mosaic.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Mosacious.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, with the Mosaic hops, we're assuming. For me, it
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: held true. It was nice, light, fruity without being too sweet, refreshing.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: I still hold true to my 8.8 lawnmower scale, which
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: we'll have to actually keep track of this. That's probably
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: my highest. I really enjoyed this one. This was right
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: in my wheelhouse. What do you think?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: I love it. It's great. Obviously, I have beers that
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I like and I don't not like. Pale ales, IPAs,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: anything in that category. But this is up there in
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: that category for me. Like, if I were to reach
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: for another beer similar, or if somebody told me, like,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: you can only pick a beer in this category, this
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: would be one of them. I liked it a lot.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Super easy drinking. You know me. I like beers that
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: don't mess around. They don't pretend to be something they're not.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: This is that. And it just hit the spot.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. There's some beers that are
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: perfect for the bonfire, and this would be good by
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: the bonfire.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: But there's also some beers that are perfect for the
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: day on the lake or right after mowing the lawn or,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: you know, just the hotter days. And this definitely is
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: that category.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: It's interesting.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Recently, when I brought the beers, they've been the more
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: ambery and Oktoberfest-y and stuff like that. And I think
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: there's been a few that you've brought that, have been
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: the IPA. So maybe we're just trying to make each
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: other happy aside from that pizza beer we had a
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: few weeks ago.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: That was interesting.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Did I ever tell you I had that with front
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: of the show forest?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I think maybe you did.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: He had the same kind of opinion on the beer
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: that we did kind of a, this is a pizza beer. So,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: but yeah, not, not to dovetail too much, but, uh, yeah. Alluvial,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for making such a great beer. Um, we
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: just need to have more of their beers on the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: show now.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Uh, and I, may need to, uh, pick up some
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: of this mosaicious for myself.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Well, the listener out there may need to pick up
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: more school hop stuff.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: We've got gear out there. T public.com slash the school hop.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: So go find that there. Uh, go find us wherever
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Uh, we're on Spotify, Apple podcasts
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: and YouTube for sure. And some other places too. Uh,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: we're still working on trying to figure out where we are, uh, comprehensive.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Well i think we're everywhere but at some point some
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: places drop off after like episode 100 or something like.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: That that's kind of lame yeah but we're 154 in
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: and we're still going strong there you.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Go uh social media i don't think you said did
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: you say social media all the socials twitter facebook instagram
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: um you said youtube tiktok everywhere else You can find us. Evan,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: I interrupted you there a second ago.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: I was just going to say, I don't know that
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: you could get a better beer for a day like today.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: And I don't know that you could get a better
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: episode than we did today.
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  Speaker 2: Might be the best episode yet.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe the best one.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Skol.