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- 0:47We are halfway through the week and cybersecurity is still a
- 0:49blazing hot topic. Today we're talking about how
- 0:51electric vehicle charging systems are becoming a weak
- 0:54point in automotive security. And it's a weakness that,
- 0:59frankly, is scaling at a speed that is genuinely keeping me up
- 1:02at night. Right, because this story has
- 1:04everything. A real incident, a lesson nobody
- 1:07wants to hear, and a detail that will make you check your own
- 1:10systems. I want everyone listening to
- 1:12just mentally place themselves in Tokyo.
- 1:14It's January, We're at the Ping to Own Automotive 2026 event.
- 1:18You have this massive conference room and it is packed with the
- 1:22absolute most brilliant, lethal Whitehead hackers on the planet.
- 1:26Oh man, P2 own? Yeah, that.
- 1:27Was it was a bloodbath? You have these next generation
- 1:30electric vehicles charging stations that look like they
- 1:32belong in a sci-fi movie, and what we witnessed was literally
- 1:36a digital massacre. Yeah, a massacre is the right
- 1:38word. It was an exhibition of absolute
- 1:40vulnerability. I mean, the final tally was 76.
- 1:4376 zero day vulnerabilities. Unique ones.
- 1:47And here is the detail that just completely breaks my brain.
- 1:50Discovered in three days. Three days.
- 1:53I mean, what are we even doing as an industry if in a long
- 1:57weekend people can find 76 brand new ways to shred these systems?
- 2:01Well, and that's the thing people don't fully grasp, right?
- 2:04Those are just the flaws that the research teams managed to
- 2:06exploit, chain together, and document within this tiny,
- 2:10strict time window of a competition.
- 2:12Right under pressure. Exactly.
- 2:14Now extrapolate that level of exposure to the real world
- 2:17ecosystem. You have malicious actors,
- 2:19cybercrime syndicates who have months, sometimes years, to
- 2:22patiently probe the defenses of these networks without anyone
- 2:26running a stopwatch on. Them.
- 2:27Yeah, they don't have a referee blowing a whistle.
- 2:29They have all the time in the world.
- 2:31And what really hit me while reading through the research we
- 2:33pulled for our deep dive today is just this massive paradigm
- 2:36shift. Historically, if you owned a
- 2:38car, your biggest security concern was physical.
- 2:41Sure, like a busted window. Yeah, you worried someone would
- 2:44steal your hubcaps or smash the glass in a dark alley to RIP out
- 2:48the radio. It was a problem of brute force.
- 2:50Broken glass. Right, the threat basically
- 2:52ended at the hood of your car. But now, I mean, the reality is
- 2:57you have to worry that someone sitting in a basement on another
- 2:59continent might remotely compromise a high voltage
- 3:03computer, take total control of your two ton vehicle, extract
- 3:06your financial data, and oh, by the way, maybe destabilize the
- 3:10power grid for your entire neighborhood.
- 3:12And all of this through what basically looks like a modern
- 3:15gas pump. It's wild when you put it like.
- 3:17That it really is. So our mission today for you
- 3:19listening, whether you already have an EV in your garage or
- 3:22you're just thinking about buying one down the line, is to
- 3:25unpack this nightmare. We really need to dissect how we
- 3:30allow these public and private charging stations to become
- 3:33highly complex computers operating with almost zero
- 3:36protection. Well, it's because we've
- 3:38essentially created this perfect storm of vulnerability.
- 3:41You have this critical tech being deployed and it's evolving
- 3:44so much faster than the regulatory frameworks can keep
- 3:47up, and more importantly, faster than corporate security teams
- 3:51can manage. Because they're just rushing to
- 3:53get them in the ground. Exactly, you're mixing heavy
- 3:56industrial hardware with these super agile cloud applications,
- 4:00all driven by this massive commercial urgency to plant one
- 4:04of these things on every single street corner on the planet.
- 4:07Which brings us right to the heart of the issue.
- 4:09What I like to call the illusion of physical scale because of the
- 4:13expansion we're talking about is insane.
- 4:15The infrastructure numbers I was looking at are staggering,
- 4:17192,000 physical charging ports in the US alone.
- 4:21Another 34,000 or so in Canada. Yep, they are everywhere.
- 4:25It's like we build a massive global network of Internet
- 4:28connected computers, left them sitting out in the rain and
- 4:31desolate parking lots and gas stations, and just basically
- 4:35forgot to put passwords on half of them.
- 4:37The physical expansion is entirely eclipsed with the
- 4:40analysts at Upstream Security. Call their cyber security
- 4:44maturity. That analogy of the computers
- 4:46left out in the street is painfully accurate, but honestly
- 4:49I think it even falls short because the fundamental issue
- 4:52here, the root of all those zero days at PU 22 own, is this
- 4:56tectonic mismatch and how we even understand the technology.
- 5:00What do you mean by mismatch? Well, the operators of these EV
- 5:03supply equipment units, the EVSC is they're often energy
- 5:07companies or these new infrastructure startups and they
- 5:10are trying to protect critical cyber kinetic systems using well
- 5:14traditional office IT tools. So they're using band aids to
- 5:17stop an arterial bleed. That's exactly it.
- 5:19They're trying to use conventional network firewalls
- 5:22and standard antivirus solutions that were built for e-mail
- 5:24servers, and they're slapping them on to embedded firmware,
- 5:27microcontrollers, programmable logic protocols, stuff that
- 5:31operates at the bare metal level.
- 5:33And that just doesn't translate. Not at all.
- 5:35Your office software cannot protect a machine that is
- 5:37engineered to pump 800 volts of electricity.
- 5:41OK, wait, let me stop you right there 'cause I really want to
- 5:43address something I've been thinking about, and I bet a lot
- 5:45of you listening have this in your head too.
- 5:47I call it the illusion of the plug.
- 5:49Like, isn't a charger at its most basic core just a giant
- 5:54glorified, extremely expensive extension cord?
- 5:58Oh, I wish, I really do. But think about the physical
- 6:00action. You drive up, you grab the hose,
- 6:03plug it into your car, those thick copper pins make contact,
- 6:07electricity flows into the battery, and you're done.
- 6:09It's basic physics. Where on earth is the attack
- 6:12surface on a cable that just pushes raw current?
- 6:15Yeah, that is the sweet blissful ignorance of the early days
- 6:19phase of electrification right there.
- 6:21I genuinely wish it was just a heavy duty extension cord, but
- 6:25the reality is so much more terrifying.
- 6:27When you take that heavy connector and snap it into your
- 6:29vehicle, electricity doesn't just start flowing immediately.
- 6:33No. If it did you would probably fry
- 6:35the car circuit instantly or electrocute yourself.
- 6:38What actually happens in that first millisecond is a massive
- 6:42digital handshake. A handshake like like 2 old dial
- 6:46up modems connecting. More like a high speed security
- 6:49interrogation. The car and the charger have to
- 6:52have this incredibly detailed technical conversation before a
- 6:56single electron of power is authorized to move.
- 7:00OK, So what are they talking about?
- 7:01The charger through these specific communication pins
- 7:04inside that cable basically asks the car, hey, who are you
- 7:09exactly? What is your vehicle
- 7:10identification number? Your VIN?
- 7:12What kind of battery chemistry are you running?
- 7:14What is your current temperature, your state of
- 7:16charge? How much maximum current can you
- 7:18take right now without bursting into flames?
- 7:20OK, so the charger is basically acting like a bouncer at a club,
- 7:23validating the car's ID. Exactly.
- 7:25And it doesn't even stop there. Once the car responds and they
- 7:28agree on the physics parameters, the charger turns around, so to
- 7:32speak, and opens a connection over cellular Internet or Wi-Fi
- 7:36to an application programming interface cloud API.
- 7:39Right. Calling home?
- 7:40Yep. And it tells its central server
- 7:42hey I've got this specific vehicle plug into port 3.
- 7:45Does this user have funds in their digital wallet?
- 7:49Is their credit card active? What is the dynamic billing rate
- 7:53in this exact zip code right this second?
- 7:55My God, So I'm not plugging in a cable, I am initiating a full
- 7:59spectrum network transaction. It is a hyper complex network
- 8:03choreography. You are chaining together
- 8:06vehicle identifiers, digital certificates, dynamic charging
- 8:09profiles, user accounts, cloud databases, mobile apps, and
- 8:12international payment gateways, and it all happens in
- 8:16milliseconds. That is insane.
- 8:18It really is literally a high performance edge computer fully
- 8:21integrated with the commercial cloud that, oh by the way, just
- 8:24also happens to dispense lethal levels of electricity as a side
- 8:28feature. And when you read the research,
- 8:30like that upstream security report we devoured for this deep
- 8:32dive, it is just brutal to see the state of that edge computer.
- 8:36They point directly to the fact that this entire emerging
- 8:38industry lacks the most basic encryption standards.
- 8:42Yeah, it's bad. They mentioned that they suffer
- 8:44from authentication gaps that would embarrass a college
- 8:47freshman in computer science. We are basically connecting our
- 8:51$80,000 vehicles to charging ports in a dark grocery store
- 8:55parking lot that have less perimeter security than my
- 8:58Netflix account. Oh, I guarantee you it is so
- 9:00much worse than your Netflix account.
- 9:02At least Netflix encrypts its streaming traffic by default.
- 9:05You know, so your neighbor can't intercept the data packets and
- 9:08see exactly what episode you're watching.
- 9:11What upstream security pointed out with a lot of alarm.
- 9:14Is this chronic lack of encryption standards at the
- 9:16communication layer of these chargers?
- 9:19This means that the data flowing between that machine on the
- 9:22street and the energy network is often traveling in plain text.
- 9:25It is not scrambled at all. So anyone sniffing the network
- 9:29and just read it like an open book?
- 9:30Exactly, and the authentication gaps mean the mechanisms the
- 9:34charger uses to verify who on earth is sending it.
- 9:37Remote commands are incredibly weak or sometimes just non
- 9:41existent. Think about it from a tactical
- 9:43perspective. If you don't really know who is
- 9:45talking to you, and on top of that you aren't hiding what
- 9:47you're talking about, you are a static target with a neon sign
- 9:51flashing Attack me. OK, I think we have permanently
- 9:54destroyed the illusion of the plug.
- 9:56We get that these posts on the street are vulnerable,
- 9:58unprotected computers. So let's actually dig into the
- 10:00tactics. How are the hackers actually
- 10:02getting in? Let's talk about the attack
- 10:04vector. Sure, let's get into it.
- 10:05When I went through the research notes from the OSTI, the
- 10:08Department of Energy, they kept bringing up the OCPP 1.6
- 10:11protocol over and over like it was the structural Achilles of
- 10:15this whole ecosystem. What is it exactly, and why is
- 10:18it such a disaster? The OCPP, the Open Chargepoint
- 10:21protocol. You really have to understand
- 10:23its history to get why it's such a massive problem today.
- 10:26Essentially, it's this universal open source language that
- 10:29physical charge points use to talk to central management
- 10:32systems. The cloud servers that monitor
- 10:34the networks. Exactly, and version 1.6 is the
- 10:37dominant standard in the industry right now.
- 10:39The vast majority of public chargers use it.
- 10:42So what's the flaw? Do they just design it poorly
- 10:44from day? Well, the problem is the
- 10:46original context of the design. When OCPP was first conceived,
- 10:50the assumption was that these charges were going to operate
- 10:53inside private, isolated corporate networks.
- 10:56Oh, closed loop networks. Right, closed loops where you
- 10:59could inherently trust every connected device.
- 11:02So the creators thought, hey, why add the processing overhead
- 11:06of heavy encryption if everything is sitting inside our
- 11:09own trusted private network anyway?
- 11:11I see. But now we've taken that exact
- 11:13same protocol, which was designed for a walled garden,
- 11:16and we just threw it out in the Wild West of the public
- 11:18Internet. You nailed it.
- 11:20So now you have this protocol that doesn't enforce encryption
- 11:23by default, chatting over public cellular networks or gas station
- 11:26Wi-fi's, and it is, like you said, just riddled with massive
- 11:30structural holes. The research specifically
- 11:32highlights man in the middle vulnerabilities, and because
- 11:36there's no forced encryption, I assume it's trivial to just step
- 11:39right into that conversation. Is chillingly easy.
- 11:43Imagine you are at a restaurant. You're giving your order to a
- 11:46waiter, but there's an invisible silent guy standing exactly
- 11:51between the two of you. OK, he intercepts your food
- 11:53order, changes it so he can order something way more
- 11:56expensive from the waiter, takes your credit card number that you
- 11:59handed over, and then when you're done, he hands you a
- 12:01completely fake receipt and neither you nor the waiter ever
- 12:04knew he was there. Wow.
- 12:06And translating that to the EV charger, the attacker is
- 12:10spoofing the connections. The charger thinks it is talking
- 12:13securely to the energy company's headquarters, reporting how much
- 12:16power it's pumping. But in reality.
- 12:18But in reality it's suffered a session hijack.
- 12:20The attacker manipulates the network traffic, maybe they
- 12:23alter the DNS resolutions and they redirect that charger to an
- 12:26unauthorized server. The charger is now taking
- 12:28commands from a cyber criminals malicious server.
- 12:31And what can they even do with that control?
- 12:33Are they just stealing credit card data?
- 12:35Oh, that's the least of it. I mean, they can steal payment
- 12:38info, sure, but they they can also spoof charging sessions,
- 12:41making other users foot the bill for charging entire commercial
- 12:44fleets. Or, in a much more destructive
- 12:47scenario, they can launch massive denial of service
- 12:49attacks. The docs attacks.
- 12:51Right, they can send malicious commands through the spoofed
- 12:53OCPP that caused every single charger in a city to reboot in
- 12:58an infinite loop, just paralyzing an entire
- 13:00infrastructure network in seconds.
- 13:02But the cloud and the Wi-Fi aren't even the only issues
- 13:05here. And this is where the reading
- 13:06got truly technical and fascinating for me.
- 13:09The pure hardware and protocol flaws.
- 13:12I want to talk about firmware rollbacks, which we saw in the
- 13:15point to own documents. Walk me through the mechanics of
- 13:18a rollback. The rollback is such a classic,
- 13:20devastating attack against Internet of Things devices.
- 13:23Look, manufacturers aren't totally blind.
- 13:26Sometimes they realize there's a massive security hole in their
- 13:29code, so they develop a patch and push an over the air for a
- 13:32more update to the charger to fix it.
- 13:34Like when my smartphone forces me to reboot at 3:00 AM to
- 13:37install a security patch. Exactly the same concept.
- 13:41The charger downloads the new software and becomes
- 13:45theoretically secure against that specific flaw.
- 13:48But if the chargers update mechanism isn't rigorously
- 13:51protected by cryptography, if it doesn't strictly verify digital
- 13:55signatures, a local or remote attacker can trick the device.
- 13:59Trick it how? They can send a command that
- 14:02literally forces the charger to uninstall the safe software and
- 14:06reinstall an old obsolete version.
- 14:08Wait, you're saying they've force the machine to physically
- 14:11time travel at the software level?
- 14:12Yes, they force the device to roll back to a version from,
- 14:16say, two years ago, and the reason they do this is that the
- 14:19old version contains known public vulnerabilities that the
- 14:22manufacturer already documented and the attacker already has
- 14:26prefabricated tools to exploit perfectly.
- 14:28That is just diabolical. It's like a burglar magically
- 14:31convincing you to remove your high tech electronic front door
- 14:34lock and reinstall that old brass lock that everyone in the
- 14:36neighborhood already has a copy of the key for.
- 14:39They know the currency system is too hard so they just downgraded
- 14:41to one they can break in their sleep.
- 14:43Wow. And then there are the math
- 14:45vulnerabilities which should be coned detailed in their post
- 14:48Ping to own reports. They talk a lot about buffer
- 14:51overflows triggering remote code execution or RCE.
- 14:55And there was also this flaw that sounded similar but is
- 14:57apparently different. Let me check my notes here.
- 15:00Right, the CWE 839. It's described as a numeric
- 15:04range input flaw, right? For those of us who don't spend
- 15:07our weekends compiling C++ code, what is the actual difference
- 15:11between these two attacks? Because they both just sound
- 15:13like overloading the system. It's a crucial technical
- 15:16distinction, and people mix them up a lot.
- 15:19Let's start with the classic, the buffer overflow.
- 15:22This happens at the level of the device processors physical
- 15:25memory. Imagine the system sets aside a
- 15:28tiny block of memory, a buffer to store let's say the name of
- 15:31your vehicle. It expects a maximum of 20
- 15:34characters. OK, seems normal.
- 15:36But the attacker sends a name that is 5000 characters long,
- 15:39and right in the middle of those characters they hide malicious
- 15:41software code. So the system is trying to pour
- 15:43a gallon of water into a tiny shot glass.
- 15:46And the water spills all over the table.
- 15:48In hardware terms, those thousands of extra characters
- 15:51overflow from their assigned block and overwrite the adjacent
- 15:54parts of the devices. Critical operating memory.
- 15:57And by doing that, the attacker can trick the processor into
- 16:00executing those malicious instructions they hid in the
- 16:03spilled water. Which is the remote code
- 16:05execution RCE. Exactly.
- 16:08You now have total administrator level control over the hardware.
- 16:12You can make the charger do whatever you want.
- 16:14Got it. So that's a brute force attack
- 16:15on the memory architecture itself.
- 16:18So what about The CW 839? The integer handling?
- 16:21If it's not a memory overflow, what is it?
- 16:23CWE 839 is much more subtle. It is purely a logic flaw, not
- 16:27physical memory. It refers to situations where
- 16:30the software just fails to properly verify if a number
- 16:33entered by the user, or in this case the car, makes any sense in
- 16:37the real world. Give me an example of how that
- 16:38looks on a charging station. OK, say the charger has a logic
- 16:42security gate that says if the battery percentage reported by
- 16:46the car is less than 100, keep charging.
- 16:48If it hits 100, stop the current immediately so you don't start a
- 16:51fire. The software logically expects
- 16:54to receive an integer between 0 and 100.
- 16:56Rates of percentage. But the developers, in a rush,
- 16:59forgot to tell the system what to do if it receives a number
- 17:03that breaks the laws of physics. So the attacker manipulating the
- 17:06communication doesn't send 90%, they send the number -50,000.
- 17:12Or they send 3 billion. And how does the programmable
- 17:15logic controller handle that? Does it just crash?
- 17:18It depends on the system, but often the results are
- 17:20disastrous. The software tries to process
- 17:22the logic of charging a battery up to -50,000%.
- 17:26It gets mathematically confused and throws an unhandled error
- 17:29state. And in a lot of these poorly
- 17:31designed industrial systems, when a critical logic error
- 17:34happens, the system defaults to a fail open state instead of
- 17:37fail closed. Fail open meaning instead of
- 17:40locking down and shutting off for safety, the controls fail by
- 17:43just leaving everything wide open.
- 17:45Exactly. The logic lock breaks and the
- 17:48door swings wide open. It allows the attacker to bypass
- 17:51safety checks, evade authentication, or just keep the
- 17:55current flowing without any restrictions.
- 17:57It's unbelievable. We're talking about overflowing
- 18:00physical memory and injecting impossible math, and all of this
- 18:03assumes they're attacking through the charger cellular
- 18:05network. But this leads us to the
- 18:07vulnerability that honestly disturbed me the most when I was
- 18:10reading the physical attack at the cable level.
- 18:13Oh yeah, the SWC can. Attack right?
- 18:15Forget the gas station Wi-Fi. Forget intercepting cloud
- 18:18communications. The teams at Tune to Own prove
- 18:20they could access the SWCS can interface the single wire CAN
- 18:25bus by injecting code directly through the pins of the physical
- 18:28plug. You have to explain the CAN bus
- 18:30to the listener because this completely changes the rules of
- 18:32automotive security. The CAN bus is, without
- 18:35exaggeration, the absolute central nervous system of your
- 18:38car. It is the deep internal
- 18:40communication network that allows all the critical
- 18:43components like the engine control module, the anti lock
- 18:46brake sensors, the power steering and the high voltage
- 18:49battery management systems to talk to each other in real time,
- 18:53thousands of times a second and. By design, it was always assumed
- 18:56that internal network was physically isolated from the
- 18:59outside world, right? Like a super secure intranet
- 19:01trapped inside the steel shell of the car.
- 19:04Correct. Historically, if you wanted to
- 19:06meaningfully hack a car's can bus, you had to physically smash
- 19:10the window, climb under the dashboard, find the OBD 2
- 19:14diagnostic port, and plug a device directly into the car's
- 19:17wiring. It was an intrusive physical
- 19:20attack, but the EV revolution broke that isolation complete.
- 19:24Because the car now has to have that complex conversation with
- 19:26the power pump outside. Exactly because the vehicle
- 19:30needs to intimately communicate with the street charger to
- 19:32negotiate voltages and manage the thermals of the lithium
- 19:36batteries, the manufacturers had to extend a bridge from that
- 19:39secure internal canvas out into the real world.
- 19:43That communication line, the single wire can or similar
- 19:46systems now travels right along that thick charging cable you
- 19:50hold in your hand. So when I grab that hose at a
- 19:52highway rest stop, that cable is not just a copper pipe for
- 19:56electricity, it is literally a direct Ethernet cable plugged
- 20:00straight into the deepest brain tissue of my car.
- 20:03It is a drawbridge that the manufacturers have permanently
- 20:06lowered, and what the researchers demonstrated is
- 20:09chilling. If they compromise the public
- 20:11charger, or if they managed to manipulate the physical pins or
- 20:14the PLC modems inside the cable, they can completely bypass all
- 20:18the sophisticated wireless cybersecurity defenses that the
- 20:21car manufacturer built in the cloud.
- 20:23They just start injecting low level unauthenticated commands
- 20:27directly onto the hardware bus of the vehicle.
- 20:29You're bypassing the castle's firewall by crawling up through
- 20:32the sewer pipes. Basically, yeah.
- 20:33They can tell the brakes to disengage, they can tell the
- 20:36battery to ignore it's temperature sensors.
- 20:38It is the absolute worst case scenario.
- 20:41Everything we are discussing here can't.
- 20:43Bus injections, man in the middle protocols, firmware
- 20:46rollbacks. It all sounds like really
- 20:48advanced sci-fi. Like intelligence agencies by
- 20:50tactics. But then when you keep reading
- 20:53the sources, you hit the real world examples of how actual
- 20:57charging station providers are managing their infrastructure,
- 21:00and the dissonance just makes you want to bang your head
- 21:02against a desk. I know the massive, unfathomable
- 21:05gap between the mathematical sophistication of the threat
- 21:08vectors and the raw, almost comical administrative
- 21:11incompetence of some operators in this space.
- 21:14It's hard to believe until you actually read the incident
- 21:16reports. Let's talk about those absurd
- 21:18incidents. I mean, Human 2 owned 2024.
- 21:21The researchers are analyzing a charging station from a
- 21:23legitimate vendor, a real company with hardware deployed
- 21:26in actual cities, and they discovered that the software
- 21:28engineers had embedded a private AWS access key, Amazon Web
- 21:32Services, directly inside the static firmware of the charger.
- 21:36It's just monumental negligence. To put this in perspective for
- 21:39you, AWS is the cloud infrastructure that houses
- 21:42entire databases, billing servers, customer profiles.
- 21:46Embedding an admin access key into the uncompiled code of a
- 21:50physical device sitting on the street is well, it's the digital
- 21:53equivalent of spending millions to build the world's most secure
- 21:56bank vault with retina scanners, laser sensors and armed guards,
- 22:01and then deciding to take the physical master key under the
- 22:03welcome mat at the front door. And just assuming nobody's going
- 22:07to look under the mat, anyone who plugs in a laptop, extracts
- 22:10that firmware, and runs a simple text search tool has the keys to
- 22:14the entire corporate cloud Kingdom of that that energy
- 22:17company. And it is not an isolated case
- 22:19of stupidity, either. Consider the 2023 incident with
- 22:22the Electrify America network, which was widely documented.
- 22:25Researchers found that public charging stations out on the
- 22:28streets were running active Teamviewer sessions.
- 22:30Wait, Teamviewer? Like the free remote desktop
- 22:34software with the blue icon that I used to log into my
- 22:37grandmother's laptop to fix her printer.
- 22:39That exact one. And it wasn't just installed.
- 22:42The sessions were exposed to the network and in many cases not
- 22:45properly authenticated. And here we are back at the root
- 22:48of the cybersecurity maturity problem.
- 22:51This happens because they are treating complex cyberkinetic
- 22:54industrial machinery like it's an HR computer in an air
- 22:58conditioned office. It's just pure operational
- 23:00laziness. Totally.
- 23:01The infrastructure managers think, hey, sending a certified
- 23:05technician in a truck every time a touch screen freezes on a
- 23:08charger in the middle of nowhere is really expensive.
- 23:10Let's just install a standard remote desktop tool so the tier
- 23:14one support team at our call center can reboot the machine
- 23:17with a click. The intention is cost savings
- 23:20and efficiency. But by doing that without
- 23:23segmenting the network, without using strict virtual private
- 23:26networks or VPNs, without multi factor or biometric access
- 23:31controls. They basically left an
- 23:32administrative backdoor with full operating system
- 23:35privileges. Why open to the public Internet?
- 23:37Just waiting for any automated port scanner to find it and walk
- 23:40right in. And that frankly drags us into
- 23:43the third major issue of our deep dive today, the blast
- 23:47radius. Because once we understand the
- 23:49attackers already know how to get in through the cable, and we
- 23:52know that sometimes the companies literally just leave
- 23:54the Teamviewer backdoor open for them, the pressing question is
- 23:58what happens when the attacker actually decides to turn the
- 24:00key? Let's talk about the impacts.
- 24:03And we need to start local before we get to the end of the
- 24:05world stuff. We are just talking about
- 24:07teenage hackers stealing free electricity to avoid paying a
- 24:10bill. Although they absolutely could
- 24:11do that and theft of service is going to be a multi $1,000,000
- 24:15problem on its own. But stealing electricity is
- 24:18anecdotal compared to the value of the data.
- 24:21Look at November 2024 reports detailed a massive silent data
- 24:25breach of a central database belonging to a charging
- 24:28operator. It compromised huge logs of
- 24:31personally identifiable information PII of users across
- 24:34multiple vendor networks. And PII in this context isn't
- 24:37just your name and e-mail, right?
- 24:39Oh, it's so much richer. They have your name, your
- 24:41banking info tied to the RFID charging account, the unique
- 24:45identifier of your very expensive vehicle, and the most
- 24:48alarming part, the transactional logs that reveal your precise
- 24:51geolocations with time stamps. So they know exactly what time
- 24:55of night, what days of the week you leave your car parked and
- 24:58immobilized at a specific remote charger.
- 25:01They know when you charge at home, when you are at work, when
- 25:04you are traveling. It's literally a real time map
- 25:07of your life. It is a stalker's wet dream and
- 25:10an absolute goldmine for identity theft rings or in
- 25:13corporate and government scenarios, for intelligence on
- 25:15personnel movements. The security research from
- 25:18Sandia National Lab also highlights how this data
- 25:21harvesting is facilitated by the absurd exposure of Bluetooth Low
- 25:24energy traffic BLE. A lot of chargers use Bluetooth
- 25:28to talk to the apps on your phone to initiate a session, and
- 25:31Sandhya found that often this BLE communication is completely
- 25:34unencrypted. A criminal can just sit in a car
- 25:3730 feet away with a simple packet sniffer and capture your
- 25:39login credentials as you walk up to the charger.
- 25:42OK, privacy and identity theft are terrible.
- 25:44But where this topic made me stop reading, where the dark
- 25:47humor I used to cope with technological terror almost
- 25:51failed me completely, is when the reports pivot to the
- 25:53physical threats. I want to go back to a term.
- 25:56The Sandia report used the potential compromise of EBSC
- 26:00life safety systems. So stop right there and break
- 26:03that down. What does life safety systems
- 26:05mean when we are talking about an appliance that charges a car?
- 26:08It sounds like hospital equipment.
- 26:10It sounds dramatic, but it is the correct technical term.
- 26:14You have to visualize the physical forces we are playing
- 26:16with here in DC. Fast charging direct current.
- 26:20We're not talking about the wall outlet that powers your toaster.
- 26:22We're talking about industrial levels of power.
- 26:25We are funneling up to 800 volts of tension and three to 400 amps
- 26:29of direct current through cables into a highly volatile chemical
- 26:33battery. It's an insane amount of energy
- 26:35flowing inches from your hand. It is lethal energy if that
- 26:38transfer is not managed with absolute math medical precision.
- 26:41That amount of current will melt copper, it will fuse plastics,
- 26:45it will cause electrical arcs that can start unstoppable
- 26:48lithium fires or just straight up electrocute a human being
- 26:51instantly and fatally. The life safety systems are the
- 26:54critical hardware and firmware components.
- 26:57The physical contactor relays, the thermal sensors in the plug
- 27:00handle, the logic software loops.
- 27:02Their only job is to monitor everything millisecond by
- 27:05millisecond, and if the cable gets 1° above the limit, or if
- 27:09they detect a resistance anomaly, they brutally stop the
- 27:12current, cutting the circuit. But yes, like you said earlier,
- 27:14a remote attacker manages to exploit one of those
- 27:17vulnerabilities, injects multis code and gets remote execution
- 27:20on the logic microcontroller governing that station.
- 27:23The attacker now has the ability to rewrite the rules of that
- 27:26physics. They can theoretically override
- 27:29those built in safety limits. They could send a command to the
- 27:32charger that says ignore the thermal sensor alert, ignore the
- 27:36maximum voltage limit the car is requesting, keep pumping the
- 27:39maximum current the grid can supply no matter what, and do
- 27:43not open the relays to cut the flow.
- 27:45You were talking about causing intentional physical harm
- 27:47through a computer. It's a pure cyber kinetic
- 27:50scenario, using a digital attack vector to manifest thermal and
- 27:54kinetic destruction in the real physical world.
- 27:56They can overcharge the vehicles battery cells, damaging them
- 28:00irreparably and turning the car into instant scrap metal.
- 28:03Or worse, induced thermal runaway in the lithium battery,
- 28:07creating an explosive fire hazard in the middle of a gas
- 28:09station or in the victim's home garage.
- 28:12That just freezes your blood. You are literally transforming a
- 28:15piece of green public utility infrastructure into a remote
- 28:18controlled incendiary weapon. And that is so hard to process.
- 28:22But what is even more more credible about this research is
- 28:25that localized physical damage to a single vehicle isn't even
- 28:28the ultimate nightmare scenario here.
- 28:30We have to pull the camera back and take this conversation to
- 28:33the macro level into large scale dystopian territory.
- 28:36And this brings us to BI Directional integration and the
- 28:38magic acronyms VDG Vehicle to grid and V2 X Vehicle to
- 28:42everything. Explain the concept because this
- 28:45is the green utopia everyone is selling.
- 28:47And it is a brilliant utopia on paper.
- 28:49The vision for the next decade of electrification isn't just
- 28:52that the grid powers the cars. The idea is that electric
- 28:55vehicles act as this immense distributed battery system on
- 28:57wheels. With V2G interfaces.
- 28:59Vehicles don't just consume energy, they store it, they hold
- 29:02it. And most importantly, they can
- 29:04push it back into the public power grid.
- 29:06During national demand peaks, your car becomes a node in a
- 29:08massive virtual power plant. Which logistically sounds like
- 29:12an efficiency miracle. I picture a sweltering Tuesday
- 29:15in August. I get home from work at 6:00 PM.
- 29:18Everyone in the city is turning on their AC units.
- 29:20The grid is groaning under the pressure.
- 29:23Instead of plugging my car in and draining the grid even more,
- 29:25causing a blackout, my connected car recognizes the demand peak
- 29:30and starts feeding power from its massive battery back into my
- 29:34neighborhood grid, stabilizing it.
- 29:36And then at 3:00 AM, when demand drops and wind power is cheap
- 29:39and abundant, the car recharges itself.
- 29:42It is a marvel of smart grid engineering, yes, but
- 29:44architecturally, from the perspective of a military
- 29:47cybersecurity analyst, it means you just enabled a high speed
- 29:51two way communication conduit directly between millions of
- 29:54vulnerable mobile batteries parked in garages and the
- 29:56critical infrastructure Transformers of an entire
- 29:59nation. V2G interfaces elevate the
- 30:02status of a humble street corner charger.
- 30:04They turn them instantly into ultra high value national
- 30:06infrastructure targets. So I usually use my dark humor
- 30:10trying to cope with the ridiculous fact that if I
- 30:13misconfigure my car's app after a long day, I might accidentally
- 30:17cause the lights in my house to flicker.
- 30:19But what you are saying is that if these networks fall into the
- 30:22hands of a real sophisticated attacker.
- 30:25I think big picture if a criminal cell or a nation state
- 30:28actor compromises just one major chargepoint operator ACPO and
- 30:34gains remote administrative access to a database controlling
- 30:3710s of thousands of distributed V2G chargers across a major
- 30:41metropolitan region. They don't just attack one car,
- 30:43they launch a synchronized attack like a swarm.
- 30:46Exactly. They could use a vulnerability
- 30:49in the OCPP protocol or a cloud back door to send a simultaneous
- 30:53command to 30,000 high capacity vehicles.
- 30:56Imagine telling those 30,000 vehicles to, at exactly 2.0 PM
- 31:00on the hottest day of the summer, instantly switched from
- 31:02resting to pulling the absolute violent maximum amount of power
- 31:05possible from the grid simultaneously.
- 31:07Or the reverse scenario, which I assume is just as bad.
- 31:11They ordered those thousands of vehicles which were peacefully
- 31:14feeding the grid to intermittently inject massive,
- 31:17erratic, out of phase power spikes right back into the local
- 31:21transmission lines. You are basically creating a
- 31:23grid level frequency disturbance or a massive artificial demand
- 31:27spike that the city's systems cannot predict or handle.
- 31:31And that is exactly how you destabilize and collapse a
- 31:33modern, fragile power grid. Those artificial demand spikes
- 31:38or dirty frequency injections can blow out local substation
- 31:41Transformers, cause the automated safety fail safes at
- 31:44major power plants to trip out of precaution, and trigger a
- 31:47catastrophic cascade of rolling blackouts.
- 31:49You could literally blind an entire city.
- 31:51We are taking the 21st century star ecological solution and
- 31:55weaponizing it without even realizing it, turning it into
- 31:58the ultimate cyber warfare attack vector hidden in plain
- 32:01sight. OK, I need to take a sanity
- 32:02pause here. Are we seeing this happen right
- 32:04now? Are foreign military minutes
- 32:06hacking charging stations at local gas stations today?
- 32:09I need to know if the sky is actually falling or if we're
- 32:11just seeing the cracks. No, the sky is not falling today
- 32:15and it's crucial to clarify that so we don't just foster blind
- 32:18panic. The intelligence community and
- 32:21the researchers we read clearly state that there is no current
- 32:24evidence of advanced persistent threats.
- 32:26The famous nation state funded AP TS like groups tied to
- 32:30Russia, North Korea or China carrying out large scale
- 32:33destructive kinetic attacks against EVSE infrastructure.
- 32:36Yet there are no blackouts caused by electric cars.
- 32:39I feel a colossal butt hovering in the air right now.
- 32:43The mountain sized butt, because what we do see actively in daily
- 32:46in the network logs are ordinary cyber criminal bot Nets,
- 32:49ransomware gangs and vulnerability research scanners
- 32:51aggressively probing the ecosystem.
- 32:53They are mapping the network topologies, they are testing the
- 32:56API defenses, looking for misconfigured OCPP servers and
- 32:59scraping databases. All the deep tactical
- 33:02reconnaissance work is happening right now.
- 33:04They're drawing the treasure map.
- 33:05They're outlining the entire attack surface.
- 33:08And the golden rule of cybersecurity is this.
- 33:11If a financially motivated mid level cyber criminal can get
- 33:14into a network by bypassing a weak authentication check to
- 33:18mine cryptocurrency or steal credit cards, rest assured that
- 33:21a nation state threat actor with unlimited resources can also get
- 33:25in. And what states do isn't steel.
- 33:28They hide, they infiltrate, they establish persistence deep
- 33:32inside the infrastructure's firmware, and they wait
- 33:34patiently for years until geopolitical tensions flare up
- 33:37and they need to push a button to cause civil chaos.
- 33:40The incalculable strategic value is already there.
- 33:43Which relentlessly drags us toward the next pit of despair.
- 33:46In our analysis of the sources. Metro grid is at imminent risk,
- 33:49our personal privacy and PII is exposed, automotive computers
- 33:53can be remote controlled and cars might end up the smoking
- 33:55$80,000 paperweights with melted batteries.
- 33:58So the $1,000,000 follow up question, who on earth do we
- 34:01blame when the music stops? Let's wade into the absolute
- 34:04abyss that is the legal and regulatory landscape of the EV
- 34:07ecosystem. It is the governance nightmare
- 34:09that the upstream reports highlighted in bright red.
- 34:12I would call it the nightmare of fragmented liability.
- 34:15To understand the panic in corporate boardrooms right now,
- 34:18you have to understand the brutal paradigm shift the
- 34:21automotive industry is going through.
- 34:23For over 100 years, the security of a car ended physically and
- 34:27logically at the sheet metal of the hood and the door lock.
- 34:30If the engine was sealed tight, you were safe.
- 34:33And even as cars filled up with computers over the last decade,
- 34:36the ultimate defensive perimeter was the ECU, the electronic
- 34:39control unit of the vehicle. The car was essentially a
- 34:43self-contained digital castle surrounded by a massive Moat.
- 34:47Right. And what are the strategy
- 34:48documents we read? I think from Cone literally had
- 34:51this blunt heading that said automotive cybersecurity cannot
- 34:54stop at the ECU anymore. Because the castle is no longer
- 34:57isolated, you can no longer just build high walls on your car and
- 35:00call it a day, because that castle now lowers a massive
- 35:03drawbridge of copper and fiber optics to connect to a strange
- 35:07village, which is the public charging station, several times
- 35:10a week. And the problem is, from a
- 35:13cybersecurity perspective, that village is constantly on fire.
- 35:17A modern attacker doesn't need to spend millions of dollars
- 35:20trying to hack the car directly anymore, trying to penetrate the
- 35:23complex cellular firewall that a BMW or Tesla engineer built.
- 35:28It would be a waste of effort to attack the strongest point.
- 35:30Exactly. Instead, they take the path of
- 35:32least resistance. They just make a lateral move
- 35:34through the adjacent infrastructure.
- 35:36They exploit an old unpatched router on a poorly segmented
- 35:40charging network at a delivery van depot, or they infiltrate
- 35:43the free Wi-Fi at a car dealership, or they hack the
- 35:45outdated software on a public charger in a mall basement.
- 35:48Once they are inside the village they just cross the drawbridge
- 35:51into the car the exact moment it plugs in.
- 35:53OK, let me pose a legal dilemma to you that I distilled from the
- 35:57liability reports. The situation that in my notes
- 35:59I've called the pasted text dilemma.
- 36:02This is the ultimate hypothetical scenario and I want
- 36:04you to walk me through the legal carnage.
- 36:07Let's say I empty my savings to buy a brand new luxury electric
- 36:11vehicle. The automakers factory assembled
- 36:13it to absolute perfection. It passes every test.
- 36:16It rolls off the production line in Detroit, Oregon, Stuttgart as
- 36:19an impenetrable digital fortress.
- 36:22It's got real time software validation, secure boot,
- 36:24military grade encryption on the ECU.
- 36:26Everything is beautiful. I drive this hyper secure tank
- 36:29for a week, then I run low on battery and I pull up to a high
- 36:33speed public charger operated by a third party franchise network
- 36:36in the middle of the highway. Turns out that public charger
- 36:39was previously compromised by a ransomware gang, maybe through
- 36:42one of those OCPP flaws we talked about.
- 36:44I follow you. The charger is compromised and
- 36:46let's say the moment I plug my perfect tank in the chargers
- 36:50infected firmware attacks the physical Southwest can
- 36:53interface, injects A payload that exploits A microscopic flaw
- 36:57in how my car reads voltage and the result is that the vehicle's
- 37:00main computer permanently bricks the main battery as a poorly
- 37:03executed fail safe mechanism. My car is paralyzed, dead and
- 37:08simultaneously my bank data tied to the cars A is extracted and
- 37:12sold. My question to you, looking at
- 37:14the current structure of the industry is whose fault is it?
- 37:18Who owns that financial monstrous risk?
- 37:20Whose lawyers do I sue to get my $80,000 back?
- 37:24Wow, well I wish you the best of luck trying to figure out which
- 37:26office to even serve that lawsuit to, because your
- 37:28question is exactly the bottomless pit that is keeping
- 37:31corporate risk mitigation lawyers awake and sweating cold
- 37:33all over the world right now. You have just described an
- 37:35unbearably tangled web of fragmented liability where
- 37:39multiple entities control the ecosystem, but nobody actually
- 37:41owns the complete life cycle of the session.
- 37:43Break this down for me, who is on my list of legal targets.
- 37:47Well, you have a lineup of defendants and they are all
- 37:50pointing fingers at each other. First, as a consumer you go to
- 37:53the original equipment manufacturer, the OEM, meaning
- 37:57the car brand that sold you the vehicle.
- 37:59Their lawyers look at you and say our car was structurally
- 38:03perfect and met every ISO regulation.
- 38:06The problem was the malware injected by the third party
- 38:09station you chose to plug into Sue the station.
- 38:12Fine, so I go to the company that built the metal post.
- 38:15You go to the chargers hardware manufacturer, they will respond.
- 38:18Look, we just bent the metal and assembled the circuits.
- 38:20The hardware was fine. The software was compromised the
- 38:22exclusive responsibility of the Chargepoint operator, the CPO
- 38:26who manages the remote management system.
- 38:28So you escalate and go to the corporate offices of the CPO.
- 38:32Surely they have to take the blame.
- 38:33They run the network. The CPO will tell you.
- 38:36Listen, we were passive victims of a sophisticated 0 day
- 38:40vulnerability attack on the cloud server release which
- 38:43should have been protected by our cloud provider.
- 38:45Blame AWS or Azure for not filtering the traffic.
- 38:49And if you somehow get to the cloud provider, they'll say the
- 38:52regional energy network partner was the one who failed on their
- 38:56API authentication protocols in the 1st place, leaving the
- 38:58session open. It is the worst, most expensive
- 39:02game of musical chairs in corporate history, and nobody in
- 39:05the entire supply chain wants to sit down and take the blame.
- 39:08When the destructive music stops, they all just wash their
- 39:11hands of it. The liability just evaporates
- 39:14into the cloud. But reading Upstream Security,
- 39:16they made it very clear this has a time limit.
- 39:17They brought up some immensely serious regulatory implications
- 39:20here. Because let's be real, federal
- 39:22governments and trade commissions are not going to
- 39:25just let this new national ecosystem burn to the ground
- 39:28without intervening, legislating, or issuing
- 39:30crippling fines to somebody. Absolutely not.
- 39:33And government. Patience is wearing incredibly
- 39:35thin. This is where federal and
- 39:37European regulators are going to use legislative brute force.
- 39:40Upstream was prophetically clear about this.
- 39:43The compliance landscape is shifting beneath their feet as
- 39:46sovereign data protection laws tighten with real teeth all over
- 39:50the world. I mean, think about the
- 39:51destructive weight of GDPR in the European Union, or the
- 39:55growing ramifications of consumer privacy laws in
- 39:57California like CCPA. The patience for incompetence is
- 40:000. Continuous leaks of personally
- 40:03identifiable information through porous, unencrypted charging
- 40:06networks are not going to be forgiven or viewed as just the
- 40:09growing pains of a new industry. The regulatory agencies are
- 40:12going to start. Issuing fines, they are going to
- 40:14issue financial. Death sentences agencies could
- 40:16invite massive monetary penalties for every single
- 40:19incident. And what people don't understand
- 40:21about the EV charging business is that right now a lot of these
- 40:25Chargepoint operators, the CP OS, they operate on incredibly
- 40:29thin, almost microscopic profit margins.
- 40:32They're burning capital trying to expand their physical
- 40:34infrastructure footprint, installing capital intensive
- 40:37hardware everywhere before mass EV adoption actually makes them
- 40:40profitable. A massive regulatory fine for
- 40:43GDPR non compliance or for cyber security negligence that results
- 40:47in a massive bank data breach that could literally wipe out
- 40:49their entire annual profit margin entirely or push them
- 40:52straight into insolvency. If the CP, OS and OEMs don't sit
- 40:56down together and radically figure out holistic security at
- 40:59the software level, data breach fines will bankrupt them long
- 41:01before they can install the next batch of charges on the highway,
- 41:04which pushes us inexorably. To our last point of analysis,
- 41:07because we cannot leave our audience wallowing in this
- 41:10absolute despair, we have to address how you cope with this
- 41:13reality. We've navigated the dark pit,
- 41:16the power grid threatened by V2G spikes, personal info, stolen
- 41:20car batteries turned into fire bombs, and the impenetrable
- 41:23legal maze you just described. So, facing this mountain of grim
- 41:27evidence, the question is how on earth is the industry responding
- 41:31to get ahead of this threat? What is the counterweight to all
- 41:34this chaos? Well, there is light at the.
- 41:36End of this very dark tunnel, thankfully, and it comes from a
- 41:39long overdue maturation toward an offensive security mindset
- 41:43rather than a defensive one. Think back to the original
- 41:46catalyst for this entire conversation today.
- 41:48Everything we're discussing was triggered and documented by the
- 41:51brutally honest findings of controlled white hat hacking
- 41:54competitions. Right the Puno and Tuona van in.
- 41:57Tokyo Exactly. The mobility.
- 41:59Industry is finally starting to adopt proactive measures by
- 42:02intense, intentionally and structurally exposing themselves
- 42:05to these lethal attacks and test environments instead of waiting
- 42:08for cyber criminals to discover them on the street.
- 42:11It's a fundamental shift. Look at the track record of the
- 42:14research led by companies like Vicone and their involvement in
- 42:17the zero day initiative, the ZDI, which the reports detail.
- 42:20Yeah, the efficiency numbers they revealed.
- 42:22There seemed honestly like a beacon of hope to me.
- 42:24They reported the discovery, verification and responsible
- 42:27disclosure of 174 unique zero day vulnerabilities in the
- 42:32connected infrastructure and the statistical.
- 42:35Context of that number is what's truly staggering.
- 42:38Those 174 flaws represented 73% of all known critical market
- 42:44vulnerabilities in that specific industrial sector at the time.
- 42:47By aggressively funding and buying these flaws, which are
- 42:50often abstract and deeply hidden from brilliant independent
- 42:54researchers, before criminal cartels can use them to build
- 42:56exploitation tools, initiatives like ZDI achieved this
- 43:00invaluable tactical advantage. They can analyze the flaw,
- 43:03develop intrusion signatures, and provide active mitigation
- 43:07intelligence to their infrastructure clients an
- 43:09average of 102 days before the original hardware vendor
- 43:12manages, if they ever do, to publish an official software
- 43:15patch. A full 100.
- 43:17And two days of early protection, That is more than
- 43:191/3 of a year. When you talk about the speed at
- 43:22which modern digital threats move, that time window isn't
- 43:25just a statistical luxury. That 102 day window is literally
- 43:28the difference between having a boring routine Tuesday morning
- 43:31in your network operation center and waking up on the front page
- 43:34of the Evening News globally as Ground Zero for a data leak and
- 43:38a National Grid collapse. It's a vital.
- 43:41It is the difference between survival and cororate
- 43:43extinction. The overwhelming conclusion, the
- 43:46urgent recommendation echoing through every one of these
- 43:49technical documents and policies is that the entire automotive
- 43:52electrical supply industry has to completely and permanently
- 43:56abandoned this complacent mindset of treating charger
- 43:59cyber risk as a purely theoretical problem or hiding
- 44:03behind the foolish assumption of oh, we're too small to be
- 44:05targeted. They have to start adopting
- 44:08military grade critical infrastructure thinking from day
- 44:11one of design. And according to the analysts,
- 44:13this isn't. Just about using better.
- 44:15No, this requires deep. Architectural engineering.
- 44:18It means implementing ultra strict network segmentation,
- 44:22ensuring that if one charger falls, it does not drag the
- 44:25entire central database down with it.
- 44:27It means wholeheartedly adopting a zero trust architecture where
- 44:30absolutely no system component, not the cloud, not the car, not
- 44:33the charging cable, automatically assumes that
- 44:36another component is friendly or safe just because they are
- 44:38physically connected. Every single interaction has to
- 44:41be cryptographically verified and it demands constant ruthless
- 44:44hostile cell penetration testing at the deep hardware level and
- 44:47on low level protocols like the Canvas, not just running generic
- 44:50IT vulnerability scans that look for open web ports.
- 44:53You know, as we unpacked. This massive, terrifying
- 44:56infrastructure, it inevitably makes me reflect on something
- 44:59much more philosophical. It makes me think about how the
- 45:02nature and the burden of social trust in our daily lives has
- 45:05just radically changed. Think about how we lived just a
- 45:08few decades ago, in the last century.
- 45:10As citizens, we implicitly and blindly trusted the physical
- 45:14public infrastructure of our cities.
- 45:16It was an unwritten social contract.
- 45:18Nobody, absolutely nobody, went to bed worrying that the humble
- 45:22street light in their alley or the gas pump at the neighborhood
- 45:24station had a hidden malicious agenda or was secretly being
- 45:28operated from the shadows by an international extortionate
- 45:31ransomware consortium. Because back then, public
- 45:34infrastructure. Was just that, physical.
- 45:36It was cast iron, cement, mechanical valves, raw gasoline,
- 45:39and rudimentary electrical relays.
- 45:41The infrastructure was inert. It was passive.
- 45:43A gas pump couldn't have ulterior motives exactly, and
- 45:47yet look at where. We are now every piece of public
- 45:50utility we trivially interact with is actually a hyper
- 45:52connected Internet of Things device.
- 45:54Every new smart gas pump, every digital parking meter that reads
- 45:57cards, and definitely every massive 4 or 800 Volt fast
- 46:01charging block that we tether our cars.
- 46:04They are no longer passive tools.
- 46:06They are dynamic computing nodes in an immensely contested global
- 46:09network under constant attack. And we are sleepwalking through
- 46:12a world where gigantic integral infrastructures for society are,
- 46:16in many staggering cases, operating with essentially the
- 46:18same broken, neglected cybersecurity maturity that a
- 46:22cheap home Internet router had 15 years ago.
- 46:24And the tragic irony. Is that we blindly, almost
- 46:28without thinking about the consequences of that place fate,
- 46:31plug into those flawed, exposed notes the very same massive,
- 46:35expensive machines that we rely on to transport our families and
- 46:38ourselves each and every single day.
- 46:41It is an astoundingly complex puzzle of risks.
- 46:44We have surrounded and wrapped ourselves in layers of amazing
- 46:47technological convenience, but it is becoming increasingly
- 46:51obvious that this apparent convenience is precariously tied
- 46:53to an incredibly fragile digital rope that is starting to fray
- 46:57right down the middle. It is totally wild.
- 46:59It's an epical. Shift.
- 47:00Think about our past. Over the last two decades, we've
- 47:03conditioned ourselves and our employees to worry about
- 47:05ethereal threats on screens. We worried about not sticking
- 47:09strange, malicious USD drives we mysteriously found lying on the
- 47:12parking lot asphalt into our work computer ports.
- 47:15Or we anxiously trained our parents not to click on tempting
- 47:19links inside poorly written emails.
- 47:20Foreign Princess promising fortunes.
- 47:22Those were the peaks of our collective digital terrors.
- 47:25They seem like infinitely simpler.
- 47:27Quaint times in retrospect, so much simpler.
- 47:30Because Fast forward deep into this decade and seeing the
- 47:33overwhelming direction these vulnerability reports point to,
- 47:36the most dangerous, consequential, and physically
- 47:39destructive digital connection you're going to make in your
- 47:42daily life will no longer even require a keyboard or a mouse
- 47:46click. The most dangerous digital
- 47:48connection of all might simply be that thick heavy black cable
- 47:52that without hesitation you pull from a harmless looking metal
- 47:55post and plug into the side of your family car in the middle of
- 47:57the night in the cold rain, desperate to get the kilowatts
- 48:00of energy needed to just safely made it home.
- 48:03It leaves us with an error defining question that we should
- 48:06start asking ourselves very seriously.
- 48:08What happens to us as a modern hyper connected society when the
- 48:11physical, inescapable infrastructure that we literally
- 48:14and absolutely depend on for our mobility, our survival and our
- 48:17energy is corrupted from the inside out, becoming the
- 48:20ultimate, most perfect Trojan horse ever conceived?
- 48:24That is all for this episode of cybersecurity under pressure,
- 48:27real attacks, real lessons. Until the next chapter.