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Minnesota in Chaos: Can the President Invoke the Insurrection Act? | Mehek Cooke · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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Speaker 1: It's all over the news. Minnesota looks like a third
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Speaker 1: world country. Ice agents under attack, police standing down. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know there is a law that lets the president
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Speaker 1: take action send in troops. It's called the Insurrection Act.
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Speaker 1: So why hasn't it happened yet? Let's break it down.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think any delay is going to cost further destruction,
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Speaker 2: and it's going to cost further lives loss.
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Speaker 3: The fact that we're sitting and waiting when we.
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Speaker 2: Have clear historical precedents and also constitutional authority is just
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Speaker 2: mind boggling to me. What happens Saturday would have never
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Speaker 2: happened if we had invoked the Insurrection Act. You have
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Speaker 2: local leaders that are vetoing the president, who is our
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Speaker 2: commander in chief's authority to actually enforce the law to
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Speaker 2: get the worst of the worst criminals off of our street.
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Speaker 2: And the fact that we're cowering to Tim Waltz tells
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Speaker 2: you everything. We're going to lose this battle if we
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Speaker 2: don't start getting our law enforcement and backing them and
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Speaker 2: making sure that the President is executing faithfully the laws
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Speaker 2: that we have asked him to. Howard him to and
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Speaker 2: seventy seven million Americans have asked for this So the
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Speaker 2: question of the day is what are we waiting for.
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Speaker 3: We don't need chaos, we don't need mayhem. We've already
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Speaker 3: seen it.
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Speaker 2: When local leaders have an abdication of duty, that is,
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Speaker 2: when the commander in chief needs a step in. There
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Speaker 2: should be no more delay and no more life lost.
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Speaker 3: Joe the Heck.
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Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. But let's talk about what
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Speaker 1: we're looking at here. We're looking at a hierarchy, an
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Speaker 1: establishment in Minnesota where Tim Walla said we're at war
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Speaker 1: with the federal government, where Peggy Flanagan is out there
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Speaker 1: telling people to put their bodies on the line. She's
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Speaker 1: the lieutenant governor for those who don't know where the
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Speaker 1: mayor is saying, get the f out of our city
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Speaker 1: and warned the city when the agents were coming. And
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Speaker 1: the police chief, Brian O'Hara is a piece of garbage,
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Speaker 1: you say called nine one one. If you see people
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Speaker 1: in uniform kidnapping people off the streets, me, that in
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Speaker 1: and of itself is enough to send in the troops
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, because you now have an establishment in
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Speaker 1: that state that says, I don't care about law, we
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Speaker 1: don't care about getting the bad guys out of this
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Speaker 1: out of this city or this state. We care about
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Speaker 1: keeping out so we can keep on doing what we're doing. Now,
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Speaker 1: the Insurrection Act goes further than that. You've got to
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Speaker 1: actually do something like we saw in the riots in
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Speaker 1: the early nineties. As I said, but now we've seen that.
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Speaker 1: You've got two people that are dead, and the reason
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Speaker 1: they're dead is because they're taking on ICE agents or
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Speaker 1: CBP agents. You've got the governor who now looks like
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Speaker 1: he's starting to hope and plead that Donald Trump will
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Speaker 1: be nice with him. Just give me the legal status
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Speaker 1: and give it to me from your opinion as well.
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Speaker 1: But give me the legal ease, if you will, about
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Speaker 1: what does it take to invoke the Insurrection Act? What
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Speaker 1: specifically does the president need to see where he can say, well,
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Speaker 1: the supremacy clause is important here, let me do what
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Speaker 1: I have to do.
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Speaker 2: Well, look, we've seen for centuries president actually use the
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Speaker 2: Insurrection Act. We don't wait for law and order to
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Speaker 2: completely disrupt and for cities to burn down. We shouldn't
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Speaker 2: be waiting for ashes. We should be acting. Now you
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Speaker 2: see this. You saw President Eisenhower who acted decisively when
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Speaker 2: there were public schools that were unwilling to desegregate in
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Speaker 2: Little Rock. And guess what the President did. He didn't
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Speaker 2: sit there, and he didn't wait for chaos. He didn't
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Speaker 2: wait for violence, he didn't wait for kids to get
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Speaker 2: harmed in public schools. He acted decisively to make sure
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Speaker 2: that we wouldn't have chaos and we wouldn't have ashes.
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Speaker 2: And yes, what happened in the La riots was terrible,
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Speaker 2: but that tells you everything. The President then waited three
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Speaker 2: days and guess what. We had a billion dollars in damage,
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Speaker 2: sixty three people dead, thousands injured. That's what happens when
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Speaker 2: there's a delay. We have clear authority through precedents and
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Speaker 2: the legal authority that specifically says the president doesn't have
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Speaker 2: to wait for a city to burn down. So again,
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Speaker 2: when you see local leaders abdicating their duty and not
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Speaker 2: protecting citizens, that's immediate the Insurrection Act. And I'll tell
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Speaker 2: you what's happening here. Tim Watts is allowing for illegal
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Speaker 2: criminals to go into jail and immediately go out. Christynome
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Speaker 2: has already been on records saying thousands have been released. Well,
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Speaker 2: guess what, now, you're not protecting citizens. That is the
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Speaker 2: Insurrection Act. When you're not abiding by laws. You need
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Speaker 2: to start protecting your citizens. All the President needs to
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Speaker 2: do is invo the Insurrection Act, and I bet you
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Speaker 2: tiny Tim Walltz will get us act together and realize
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Speaker 2: nobody is messing around right now.
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Speaker 3: There are over a.
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Speaker 2: Million people in Minnesota that voted for President Trump, that
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Speaker 2: voted for safety and security. So we should not be
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Speaker 2: abandoning those people.
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Speaker 1: Attorney and CEO American Frontier strategies as Mehet Cook, go
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Speaker 1: to m eh e K last name cook dot com,
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Speaker 1: go find out everything about or go follow on all
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Speaker 1: the social media as well. Let's talk about the difference
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Speaker 1: between the Possecomatatis Act and the Insurrection Act. People keep
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Speaker 1: on saying you can't send troops in because poscomatatas. From
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Speaker 1: what I understand, that just means you can't send them
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Speaker 1: in to go pull people over for traffic violations. You
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Speaker 1: can't have them go be a police force. But certainly
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Speaker 1: when it comes to using our military to protect the
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Speaker 1: civil rights of Americans, that's what you're talking about when
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Speaker 1: desegregation was happening, That's what we're talking about when the
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Speaker 1: LA riots happened. Right There's a big difference between American
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Speaker 1: citizens are having their civil rights trampled upon. We can
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Speaker 1: send in troops to restore them right one hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: We're not asking for ICE agents to be traffic cops today.
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Speaker 2: We're asking for ICE agents to actually protect American citizens,
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Speaker 2: to get the worst of the worst off streets. These
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Speaker 2: are individuals. One of them had twenty four felonies. That
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Speaker 2: is an individual today that's roaming on the streets of
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Speaker 2: Minnesota when local law enforcement is not allowed. Either they're
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Speaker 2: not permitted or they've decided to abdicate their duty because
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Speaker 2: the governor is a feckless leader. Then the Insurrection Act
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Speaker 2: kicks in, and guess what, we don't need permission by Congress.
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Speaker 2: No other president asked for permission when the Insurrection Act
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Speaker 2: was invoked numerous times.
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Speaker 3: And what we're asking President Trump to do.
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Speaker 2: Today is to stand there, stand our ground and protect
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Speaker 2: citizens because we're going to continue to see death and destruction.
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Speaker 3: And I don't think taxpayers.
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Speaker 2: Today Joe should be paying for this because we know
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Speaker 2: exactly what's happening. Not only do we have fraud schemes
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Speaker 2: under Tim Walls's nose, but now we're going to be
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Speaker 2: paying billions of dollars to rebuild a city. We shouldn't
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Speaker 2: be waiting for this. And again, law enforcement has the authority.
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Speaker 2: We're not asking for the National Guard. The Insurrection Act
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Speaker 2: actually allows for officials.
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Speaker 3: To go in and to start enforcing the law.
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Speaker 2: And I also think our local law enforcement that does
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Speaker 2: not agree with Mayor Waltz, they should resign and start
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Speaker 2: working with ICE because we need all the help we
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Speaker 2: can get on the ground there.
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Speaker 1: That's a great point. It's mat Cook, that's a great point.
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Speaker 1: I wish that they would do that because I'm sure
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Speaker 1: a lot of the frontline men and women would like
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Speaker 1: to actually enforce the law. There was a video from
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Speaker 1: last night that you may or may not have seen,
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Speaker 1: where you've got ICE agents actually trying to protect a
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Speaker 1: broken window at the hotel where allegedly ICE agents are staying.
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Speaker 1: And the guy was saying, as he held his rifle,
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Speaker 1: where's the local authority? Where are local police officers? Why
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Speaker 1: is it anybody here? Because people are breaking into a hotel,
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Speaker 1: And that was really really appression point. Clearly, this pressure
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Speaker 1: from Brian O'Hara on down Minneapolis PD at the Metro
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Speaker 1: PD to not go and help ICE, to not go
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Speaker 1: and do anything when it comes to enforcing the law,
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Speaker 1: where these riots are breaking up, what do you do
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Speaker 1: about that? If you're the president, if you're the executive,
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Speaker 1: you see that law enforcement in that city said we're
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Speaker 1: not going to protect anybody because the federal agents are here.
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Speaker 1: Is that enough to say insurrection Act?
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Speaker 2: I think there has to be chaos and violence, and
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Speaker 2: we've a machine it. We've seen two deaths, so this
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Speaker 2: is enough. And I have to say this. It's even
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Speaker 2: happening in Columbus, Ohio, when ICE was operating here under
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Speaker 2: Operation Buckeye, you saw again a Columbus police chief that
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Speaker 2: specifically told our officers to stand down, to not help individuals,
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Speaker 2: and to report ICE agents. When you have this consistency
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Speaker 2: in blue cities, it's going to bleed into other states
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Speaker 2: and we're going to see chaos. And again, my biggest
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Speaker 2: point here is law enforcement signed up. They put a
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Speaker 2: badge on to do one thing, protect citizens. The minute
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Speaker 2: somebody says, do not do your duty, take the badge off,
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Speaker 2: take the uniform off, and join ICE, because at least
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Speaker 2: you know you're fighting a greater battle here. At least
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Speaker 2: you know you're actually fulfilling your obligations.
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Speaker 3: As a law enforcement officer.
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Speaker 2: But we have so many officers today that I speak
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Speaker 2: to on a daily basis that say our hands are tied,
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Speaker 2: and that's unacceptable. Why become a police chief or an
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Speaker 2: officer if you can't enforce the law today? And that's
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Speaker 2: exactly what ICE is grappling with. When ICE agents stood
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Speaker 2: there and I watched the video at the hotel, I mean,
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Speaker 2: that is destruction of a private hotel. They're taking down
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Speaker 2: the home with sweet sign, They're continuing to bang and
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Speaker 2: create chaos and destruction. That's a noise ordinance, that's a
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Speaker 2: noise violation. That's destruction of private property. And Joe, who
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Speaker 2: is going to pay for that?
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Speaker 1: We are topic way, Yeah, we're gonna. It's just like
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Speaker 1: we're the ones paying for the fraud and all these
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Speaker 1: daycare centers and all that other place. Do you think
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Speaker 1: that that's the reason why this is happening, why Walls
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Speaker 1: has come out along with Fry and O'Hara and all
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Speaker 1: these other idiots to divert from the fraud that's clearly
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Speaker 1: happening in Minnesota. Do you think they want this mayhem?
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Speaker 1: Because never let a serious crisis go to waste and
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Speaker 1: ignore what I'm doing over here, new shiny thing over here.
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Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent. This is the Democrat playbook. They're
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Speaker 2: going to continue to distract and continue to then put
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Speaker 2: their hand in your pocket for fundraising dollars. They're always
9:12
Speaker 2: looking for that golden shiny trophy. Remember at one point
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Speaker 2: it was Maryland Dad of the Year, where they continue
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Speaker 2: to fundraise for him in grandstand and go visit him
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Speaker 2: and sit Margarita's. And then you have Mahmud Khalid who's
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Speaker 2: getting the heck out of our country.
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Speaker 3: Because he broke the law.
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Speaker 2: He's a Palestinian activist who lied on a visa application
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Speaker 2: and Mandani's Grandstanding so he can get money. And in
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Speaker 2: Minnesota it's the same thing. They want to deflect and
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Speaker 2: distract from the fraud. But the fraud isn't leaving the state.
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Speaker 2: Pambondi and the DOJ is investigating, so regardless of what
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Speaker 2: they burned down in that city, there's going to be accountability.
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Speaker 2: We're already seeing arrest. But this is their playbook. Anytime
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Speaker 2: they can show chaos to the American people. They think
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Speaker 2: we're dumb, they think we're going to be confused, but
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Speaker 2: we are not. We're not taking our eye off the
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Speaker 2: prize because these are our hard earned tax dollars, and
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Speaker 2: now we know we're going to be paying even more
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Speaker 2: because of the destruction that Tim Walsh is allowing.
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Speaker 1: You and I both like the president. I think he's
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Speaker 1: doing a great job of voting for him three times,
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Speaker 1: interviewed him a bunch of times. I really like the guy.
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Speaker 1: Why do you think he's waiting? Now? You and I
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Speaker 1: both know that he fancies, you know, a really good deal.
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Speaker 1: Let's make a deal. If he can make a deal
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Speaker 1: with Tim Cook. Oh no, I keep saying Tim Cook
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Speaker 1: because of your last name and because he's also the
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Speaker 1: CEO of Apple. But if he makes a deal with
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Speaker 1: Tim Walls, Hey, look, I made a deal with Tim Walls.
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Speaker 1: I would rather see Tim Walls and hincuffs and I'd
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Speaker 1: rather see us go in there and restore civil rights
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Speaker 1: in peace and harmony. Why do you think what's your
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Speaker 1: opinion on why he's waited so long to make a deal.
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Speaker 2: Look, I think, well, I think we can do both.
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Speaker 2: I think we can make a deal to get criminals
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Speaker 2: off the street and for Waltz to agree, and we
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Speaker 2: can still convict Walts if there is proof of fraud.
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Speaker 2: Allegations right, and we can throw his butt in jail.
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Speaker 2: So I think we can do both. What President Trump
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Speaker 2: is trying to do is neutralize and quell all of
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Speaker 2: the chaos and all of the riots, because the more
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Speaker 2: flames that we ignite, we're going to be blamed.
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Speaker 3: And let's not forget all of this.
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Speaker 2: Is tied to a shutdown that is eminent because we
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Speaker 2: have a Senate.
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Speaker 3: That refuses to get rid of the filibuster.
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Speaker 2: We have a Senate that refuses to realize that our
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Speaker 2: commander in chief has asked for this repeatedly, that he
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Speaker 2: is not going to be able to get his agenda
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Speaker 2: through if they don't take ending the filibuster seriously. So
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Speaker 2: it's layer upon layers, and the Democrats are winning at
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Speaker 2: this point because they've ensued violence. There's been a shooting,
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Speaker 2: a fatality now several in Minnesota, and it's going to
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Speaker 2: continue unless Republicans stop playing defense and start playing offense
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Speaker 2: and start listening to our commander in chief. And I
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Speaker 2: think the President has done an amazing job, but part
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Speaker 2: of it is because of his strategy, because of his
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Speaker 2: blue book, and I think we need to start paying
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Speaker 2: attention and listening.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that that Tim Walls and Peggy Flanagan
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Speaker 1: and Brian O'Hara and Jacob Fry, can they face charges
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Speaker 1: because of what they incited here. I believe it's aiding
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Speaker 1: in a betting. I believe that it's harboring, and I
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Speaker 1: certainly believe it's incitement. What do you think.
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Speaker 3: I think that we can definitely put charges together.
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Speaker 2: And I think that this DOJ is very serious about
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Speaker 2: inciting violent violence and anytime there's a civil rights allegation,
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Speaker 2: her meat Dylan, I mean, she's head of that session
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Speaker 2: that the DJ has been taking this Oh's she is
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Speaker 2: the hardest and feirest, fiercest warrior here in this section
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Speaker 2: as we're seeing at the DOJ, and so yes, I
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Speaker 2: think that charges need to come and we need to
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Speaker 2: sit back and start watching every single thing these Democrats do, because,
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Speaker 2: let me tell you, even though Waltz had a phone
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Speaker 2: call with President Trump, there's always a plan because it's
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Speaker 2: about political power. And guess who the ponds are. It's
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Speaker 2: people on the streets of Minnesota that are continuing to
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Speaker 2: be lied to, and they're the ones behind bars. I
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Speaker 2: love how Tim Wall sits in his chair and talks
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Speaker 2: about how he needs to make sure that is is
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Speaker 2: out and we need to flood the streets. He's not
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Speaker 2: flooding the streets. He's not the one getting arrested. So
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Speaker 2: it's always political ponds. And I wish people would wake
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Speaker 2: up today. What happened to law and order? What happened
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Speaker 2: to pulling over when a police officer was behind you
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Speaker 2: and putting your hands on a steering wheel and saying,
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Speaker 2: I am a licensed gun carrier?
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Speaker 3: What happened to just respect for the badge?
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Speaker 2: I think we've lost all of that because of leaders
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Speaker 2: like Tim Walls and ilhan Omar and the others.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because I carry. I live in Texas.
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Speaker 1: That's what we do here. And I got pulled over
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Speaker 1: Louisiana once and I got out of the vehicle. He asked,
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Speaker 1: you've been get editory late at night and a very
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Speaker 1: nice cup, and I said, here's my license to carry.
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Speaker 1: He said, do you have your gun on you now?
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Speaker 1: I said yes, I do. He said where is it?
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Speaker 1: I said it's right over here. Didn't take it away,
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Speaker 1: didn't take it off of me. We did whatever we
13:35
Speaker 1: had to do on the side of the road. I
13:36
Speaker 1: think you let me out of the ticket too for
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Speaker 1: some reason. But that's just common sense. If you have
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Speaker 1: your gun with you and you show up and I
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Speaker 1: think that it's Minnesota state law, you've got to have
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Speaker 1: your ID with you. This guy didn't have his ID,
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Speaker 1: but he's got his gun. The last thing you want
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Speaker 1: to do is get into some sort of a ruckus
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Speaker 1: with the armed police officers that are just trying to
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Speaker 1: do the job. And they had a target that they
13:57
Speaker 1: were going for in that area.
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Speaker 3: It does.
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Speaker 1: It makes sense. Suddenly the left is all pro Second
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Speaker 1: Amendment and bring your guns to protests, and you know,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's like bizarre world. It's
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Speaker 1: all very strange. So you're right about that. I really
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Speaker 1: do hope that that walls on down do phase charges
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Speaker 1: because what they did here was put every single Minnesota
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Speaker 1: in harm's way. But I want to talk about immigration
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Speaker 1: law with you, because you've got such a great brain
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Speaker 1: when it comes to that and other things as well.
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Speaker 1: Talk to me about due process, Fourth Amendment, fifth Amendment,
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Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendment. The left in this country seems to think
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Speaker 1: that people who come here illegally, who have committed a crime,
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Speaker 1: that's a crime. It's not civil, it's criminal. It's a
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Speaker 1: eight USC thirteen twenty five. If you get deported come back,
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Speaker 1: it's thirteen twenty six, which is a felony. But they've
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Speaker 1: committed a crime. So every single person who came across
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Speaker 1: the border illegally committed a crime. Do they have the
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Speaker 1: same due process as somebody who did it legally or
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Speaker 1: people like you and me who are citizens. No.
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Speaker 3: The short answer is no.
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Speaker 2: And when you have people like Abby Phillips on CNN
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Speaker 2: saying it's a civil offense when you come up across
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Speaker 2: the border, you were lying to people. And I have
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Speaker 2: to tell you something. Anytime you hear civil offense, you
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Speaker 2: hear no big deal, Joe. But the problem is it's
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Speaker 2: a lie. It's a criminal offense. And I think Americans
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Speaker 2: today are shocked, especially Democrats, because you had four years
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Speaker 2: of Joe Biden's open border policy where you had law
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Speaker 2: enforcement that were babysitters at the border.
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Speaker 3: You know, I visited the border and what law enforcement
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Speaker 3: told me was.
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Speaker 2: That they were processing individuals to come into our country
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Speaker 2: and they were glorified babysitters. They actually did not get
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Speaker 2: to turn anybody away because all you had to say
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Speaker 2: was the word asylum. So these individuals are coming in.
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Speaker 2: Their first act was to commit a crime by coming
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Speaker 2: in illegally, and then they're continuing to commit crimes. You
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Speaker 2: do not have the same due process you were not
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Speaker 2: a US citizen. You're going to go through an expedited
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Speaker 2: hearing through immigration courts, and then you're going to be
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Speaker 2: ordered through detention. Detained, you get the right to an attorney,
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Speaker 2: and most often you're deported. What we have continued to
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Speaker 2: see across the last year that President Trump has been
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Speaker 2: here while he's trying deportations, are many groups, including the ACLU,
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Speaker 2: that are trying to ask for more process. And the
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court has been clear on this, there's no additional
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Speaker 2: process for these individuals. You have been given a detention
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Speaker 2: hearing and that is it. As a US citizen, you
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Speaker 2: get more process, you get a full fledged court hearing,
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Speaker 2: not under the IA, for these illegal immigrants that are
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Speaker 2: coming here and committing crimes.
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Speaker 1: back to the interview. You know it's interesting, You're you're
17:33
Speaker 1: spot on by the way I had the Elan Derschowitz
17:35
Speaker 1: on and we talked about this at length, and he said,
17:37
Speaker 1: you're do the process that you're due, or you get
17:40
Speaker 1: the process that you're due. If I see, if i'm
17:43
Speaker 1: law enforcement and I see somebody come across the border illegally,
17:45
Speaker 1: I have every right to turn them around and say
17:47
Speaker 1: go back. I gave that's the process that you were due.
17:50
Speaker 1: I saw you break the law. We're not gonna go
17:51
Speaker 1: through any other courts, not gonna go through any fourth, fifth,
17:54
Speaker 1: twelfth Amendment or fourteenth Amendment, I should say. And then
17:57
Speaker 1: he said, you're do the process of whatever it is
18:01
Speaker 1: that you did as a violation. Okay, you're claiming asylum,
18:04
Speaker 1: let's do that process. Oh you didn't get it, get
18:06
Speaker 1: out of here. Oh you're claiming that you had some
18:09
Speaker 1: other reason to be here, or you had some circumstances,
18:12
Speaker 1: or you're on TPS for a while from the Biden administration,
18:14
Speaker 1: or you're illegally using parole under the Biden administration. You
18:17
Speaker 1: only do the process of those things that you're asking for.
18:21
Speaker 1: You're not due process as a natural born citizen or
18:23
Speaker 1: even a naturalized citizen of the United States of America.
18:26
Speaker 1: And by the way, natural born gets more than naturalized,
18:28
Speaker 1: because you could denaturalize somebody. If they like elan Omar,
18:31
Speaker 1: maybe we should talk about her why she's still here.
18:33
Speaker 1: But having said all of that, it's so interesting to
18:36
Speaker 1: me that the left is so hung up on due process.
18:39
Speaker 1: They think you get full Fourth Amendment. You can't surveil,
18:43
Speaker 1: you can't pull them over without probable callge, you can't
18:45
Speaker 1: blob about bs ICE has and DHS has a list
18:49
Speaker 1: of the worst of the worst. If they just gave
18:52
Speaker 1: them the worst of the worst in Chicago, in Minneapolis,
18:55
Speaker 1: in Columbus, in fill in the blank, Los Angeles, you
18:57
Speaker 1: wouldn't have ICE raids. You would just get the people
19:00
Speaker 1: that you were there to get. The fact is you
19:01
Speaker 1: have to raid them in Boston because they're not cooperating,
19:05
Speaker 1: and more cities are becoming sanctuary cities. So I want
19:08
Speaker 1: to harp on the new process thing a little bit
19:09
Speaker 1: more because there are people watching and listening who don't
19:12
Speaker 1: believe Dershowitz and don't believe what you just said. Really
19:15
Speaker 1: bring that home for me that the process you get
19:18
Speaker 1: is according to the violation you did, and it's also
19:21
Speaker 1: according to the country of jurisdiction that you are under.
19:26
Speaker 1: The people who are coming here illegal are not under
19:28
Speaker 1: the jurisdiction of this country. They're under the jurisdiction and
19:30
Speaker 1: the auspices of a different country, almost like a diplomat
19:33
Speaker 1: that's here. You can't do certain things to them either.
19:35
Speaker 1: They get a certain process. So do me a favorite.
19:37
Speaker 1: There's along what I just said, but do me a
19:39
Speaker 1: favor and really whittle that down. They don't get the
19:42
Speaker 1: same process as you and me and those watching and listening, because.
19:48
Speaker 3: They are not US citizens. They are guests, they're visitors.
19:51
Speaker 2: They're individuals who have broken the law. And if you
19:55
Speaker 2: look at the Immigration Nationality Act, there's an expedited process
19:59
Speaker 2: for inde visuals who come into our country and break
20:02
Speaker 2: the law. You're actually in front of an immigration judge.
20:05
Speaker 2: So everybody, including Democrats, should applaud this because you have
20:08
Speaker 2: an expert. It's an immigration judge that's actually looking at
20:11
Speaker 2: your paperwork to see did you come into this country illegally?
20:15
Speaker 3: Did you run out.
20:16
Speaker 2: Of temporary protection status, which, by the way, guys, it's temporary.
20:19
Speaker 2: You were never supposed to live off of taxpayers in
20:22
Speaker 2: the United States of America. You were granted asylum or
20:25
Speaker 2: some sort of temporary status that was going to run
20:28
Speaker 2: out eventually, and it has, so your time is up.
20:31
Speaker 2: But most of these statuses, whether it's visitors, visa, a student, TPS,
20:37
Speaker 2: which is temporary protection status, it is for a.
20:39
Speaker 3: Limited amount of time.
20:41
Speaker 2: Those individuals do not get the same process as a
20:45
Speaker 2: US citizen, which will get a full trial, which wouldn't
20:48
Speaker 2: be in front of an immigration judge when we're committing crimes.
20:51
Speaker 2: This is a completely separate court, completely separate docket, completely
20:55
Speaker 2: separate judges that the administration is working with. And by
20:59
Speaker 2: the way, it's not just the Trump administration. Every president
21:02
Speaker 2: has worked through immigration course. Obama was the chief Deporter.
21:05
Speaker 2: He actually worked to deport thousands and thousands of illegal immigrants.
21:10
Speaker 2: They never got full due process. So the fact that
21:12
Speaker 2: we're sitting here and trying to give full due process
21:14
Speaker 2: to individuals that don't have the status makes no sense
21:19
Speaker 2: at all.
21:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the head Cook go to her website A E. H. E.
21:23
Speaker 1: Kcok dot com. She's an attorney CEO of American Frontier Strategies.
21:29
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Abrego Garcia for a second. Paula Zinnis
21:32
Speaker 1: has a crush on the guy. I'm not really sure
21:34
Speaker 1: if this judge is doing to be honest with you,
21:36
Speaker 1: And the same thing with that idiot senator from Maryland.
21:40
Speaker 1: This guy not only got due process, he got overwhelming
21:42
Speaker 1: due process. Two immigration judges agreed with them undercover informant
21:46
Speaker 1: that he was an MS thirteen member period got a
21:49
Speaker 1: final order of deportation. But you can't send him to
21:52
Speaker 1: El Salvador. For some reason, there was a withholding order
21:54
Speaker 1: because the Eighth Street gang was going to kill him
21:57
Speaker 1: or something if you went back, which again tells me
21:59
Speaker 1: he was part of a gang that the Left says
22:00
Speaker 1: that he wasn't. Did he not get overwhelming new process?
22:03
Speaker 1: Why is this guy here? Why is he not sent
22:06
Speaker 1: to Ghana or somewhere by now?
22:08
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
22:09
Speaker 2: I think the fact that he even got asylum in
22:12
Speaker 2: the United States being an alleged gang member, and we're
22:16
Speaker 2: supposed to protect this alleged gang member from another gang,
22:19
Speaker 2: so we can't send him to El salvadorre.
22:21
Speaker 1: He's not a member. We're protecting him from a gang,
22:24
Speaker 1: but he's not a gang member. It's so stupid.
22:27
Speaker 2: Well, and then he has criminal history and violations against
22:30
Speaker 2: his wife, and then you have an agent that's pulled
22:32
Speaker 2: him over and there's alleged trafficking of humans.
22:36
Speaker 3: What more do we need to say?
22:38
Speaker 2: This man is a bad man and doesn't belong in
22:40
Speaker 2: the United States of America. But you continue to have
22:43
Speaker 2: Democrats grandstand. And this is again, this isn't about the
22:47
Speaker 2: Maryland man, the illegal immigrant who.
22:50
Speaker 3: Is an alleged gang member. This is about fundraising.
22:53
Speaker 2: This is about how Democrats steal the narrative because ask
22:55
Speaker 2: yourself today, sit back and ask yourself one question.
22:58
Speaker 3: What do Democrats stand for? What are they running for?
23:01
Speaker 2: They have not been able to rebound after Obama. They
23:05
Speaker 2: had a catastrophe under Biden. They coronated Kamala Harris. They
23:09
Speaker 2: don't have anybody who's a front runner in the party.
23:11
Speaker 2: They have TikTok stars like Jasmine Crockett and AOC, but
23:14
Speaker 2: they actually don't have leadership. They don't have common sense.
23:17
Speaker 2: They don't even know how to put sentences together in
23:20
Speaker 2: terms of what an illegal is versus illegal, what a
23:23
Speaker 2: man is versus a woman. So you're going to have
23:25
Speaker 2: things like ALBREAKOCRCIA, break the Internet because they don't have
23:29
Speaker 2: a leg to stand on. So he has been given
23:32
Speaker 2: two different trials. He's been given enough due process for
23:35
Speaker 2: us to say he needs to go, and the fact
23:37
Speaker 2: that this is continuing to be delayed, I think we
23:40
Speaker 2: should start racking up tax pair dollars. We should have
23:43
Speaker 2: just like dogs for Elon Musk. We should have an
23:45
Speaker 2: illegal immigrant website so that all of us know how
23:48
Speaker 2: much we're paying for their quote due process and to
23:51
Speaker 2: keep them in this country illegally because they're living off
23:54
Speaker 2: of tax pair dollars.
23:55
Speaker 1: You know, the judge in that case is Paul is
23:57
Speaker 1: in It, who I mentioned earlier. I think she's got
23:58
Speaker 1: a crush on the guy. This process is. They're in
24:01
Speaker 1: place to get her off of a case like this.
24:03
Speaker 1: She keeps on making the dumbest rulings about keeping this
24:05
Speaker 1: guy here. It's ridiculous. And again, why didn't the administration
24:09
Speaker 1: go and quash that stupid non deportation order to El
24:12
Speaker 1: Salvador when he's from El Salvador and the street gang
24:15
Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore. It seems to me like there are
24:17
Speaker 1: a couple of simple things that could be done with
24:19
Speaker 1: this guy and he'd be out of here. Why aren't
24:20
Speaker 1: we doing them?
24:22
Speaker 2: Well, Unfortunately, there's a deportation order that prohibits us from
24:26
Speaker 2: Senmont and kent to El Salvador because allegedly a gang
24:29
Speaker 2: he's not in is even though it's been dismantled.
24:32
Speaker 1: That's gone, Well, can we quatch that? Can't we just
24:35
Speaker 1: get the DOJ go and quash that in any court
24:37
Speaker 1: that has a judge that's actually going to be fair minded.
24:42
Speaker 3: I think it should be appealed to an immigration court.
24:44
Speaker 2: But we have to wait for an appeal and to
24:46
Speaker 2: get out of this judge's docket for us to actually
24:49
Speaker 2: see some action. And the longer it goes on, because remember,
24:53
Speaker 2: the more cases are dragged on, and this is just
24:56
Speaker 2: unfortunate in our justice system. Things don't happen at the
24:58
Speaker 2: stap of your finger. It takes forever. This is why
25:01
Speaker 2: we have such a great due process system. You can
25:03
Speaker 2: continue to challenge, but the longer this drags on, it's
25:06
Speaker 2: going to continue with fundraising. So I think that we
25:09
Speaker 2: have to be more strategic at the DOJ and to
25:11
Speaker 2: start looking at some of these high profile cases that
25:14
Speaker 2: we went after and make sure they're out of here.
25:17
Speaker 2: But again, Joe, I think the next time we get
25:20
Speaker 2: rid of whether it's Mamu Khalil or Albrego, they're just
25:23
Speaker 2: going to find another shiny object, like the little five
25:26
Speaker 2: year old that has been plastered all over social media
25:29
Speaker 2: that ICE agents actually saved because his father ran away
25:33
Speaker 2: from him and left him abandoned in the middle of
25:36
Speaker 2: the street. I mean, I could go on and on
25:38
Speaker 2: about the chaos that the Democrats have created, and they
25:41
Speaker 2: continue to lie to the American people.
25:43
Speaker 1: What's interesting is that's Liam kanaj Ramos. For some reason,
25:47
Speaker 1: it's been Lamy's rabbit. I don't know why. But this
25:50
Speaker 1: kid father is bringing him home. Father is the target
25:54
Speaker 1: of ICE decides I don't care about my five year old,
25:57
Speaker 1: let me get away from the ICE agents, just leaves
25:59
Speaker 1: the sun there. They take care of him, offer him
26:02
Speaker 1: to his mother, who says I don't want him. So
26:04
Speaker 1: now they put him in detention with his father. And
26:06
Speaker 1: what's the left saying? The heck the left is saying
26:08
Speaker 1: they're detaining a five year old nother or not. His
26:11
Speaker 1: family doesn't want him. Now, if you take the five
26:13
Speaker 1: year old, you're separating a family. If you leave the
26:15
Speaker 1: five year old, you're detaining him. This is all about optics.
26:18
Speaker 1: This is all how is the right doing when it
26:20
Speaker 1: comes to optics? Because I got to tell you something,
26:22
Speaker 1: I'm on the right. You know, we're conservative people and
26:24
Speaker 1: we're correct, but I don't think the messaging is working
26:27
Speaker 1: very well. I think we're doing a good job. How
26:29
Speaker 1: do you think we're doing combating that? Because if you remember,
26:32
Speaker 1: you know, during the first Trump administration, they had the
26:33
Speaker 1: little girl crying because she had been ripped from the
26:36
Speaker 1: arms of her mother. In the picture, her mother's leg
26:39
Speaker 1: is right there. She's with her mother in the picture.
26:41
Speaker 1: But Time magazine called that the picture of the year
26:44
Speaker 1: and they said it represents what Trump was doing, even
26:47
Speaker 1: if the kid was whether her mother. So are we
26:49
Speaker 1: doing better this time on messaging or not?
26:52
Speaker 3: I think we could be even stronger.
26:54
Speaker 2: And I say that because the one thing that I
26:57
Speaker 2: still think that we're lacking Joe, and you may think
26:59
Speaker 2: this is unpopular, but if we're on the right side,
27:03
Speaker 2: then let's be one hundred percent transparent. Do you know
27:05
Speaker 2: today not all ICE agents have body cameras. That's the
27:08
Speaker 2: biggest argument for us to have to have law and
27:12
Speaker 2: order on our side, and to also convince the American
27:14
Speaker 2: people we have nothing to hide.
27:16
Speaker 3: So when we see incidents.
27:17
Speaker 2: Of a little five year old that is allegedly being
27:20
Speaker 2: left on the street where ICE is saving this kid.
27:23
Speaker 2: We can actually have the on camera evidence immediately. Unfortunately,
27:28
Speaker 2: unfortunately for us, social media has become viral. They're people
27:31
Speaker 2: that are taking their iPhone and they're continuing to film.
27:34
Speaker 3: Well, let's own the narrative. Let's have the body cameras.
27:37
Speaker 2: Let's have ICE agents immediately working with somebody at the
27:40
Speaker 2: department to say, this is the narrative, this is what happened,
27:43
Speaker 2: and this is the facts. The minute we're telling the story.
27:47
Speaker 2: We're not playing defense right now. There's a lot of
27:49
Speaker 2: defense happening. So let's control it. Let's get the film,
27:53
Speaker 2: let's get it out. Let's tell people the truth so
27:55
Speaker 2: we're not constantly correcting narratives. But that's the biggest issue
27:59
Speaker 2: we have today. And if we're going to get the
28:01
Speaker 2: worst of the worst out, tell us who they are.
28:03
Speaker 2: Let's focus on them, and let's get this done so
28:06
Speaker 2: that everybody knows every single day when we're talking about
28:10
Speaker 2: these thugs that are on our street, what they have done,
28:12
Speaker 2: what heinous crimes that they have committed, so that the
28:15
Speaker 2: American people, so we can win their hearts and minds,
28:18
Speaker 2: because right now mainstream media is against us. We know
28:21
Speaker 2: that for a fact based on all of their reporting,
28:23
Speaker 2: they're lying to the American people.
28:25
Speaker 3: But we have the upper hand. The truth is on
28:27
Speaker 3: our side. Let's get the body cameras. Let's start telling
28:30
Speaker 3: the truth proactively. We had a raid.
28:33
Speaker 2: This is what we caught. This is who the individual is.
28:36
Speaker 2: Every single day, every single hour, every single second. I mean,
28:38
Speaker 2: we're already working twenty four seven in the administration, right,
28:41
Speaker 2: that's what they're saying. I'm watching them in real time.
28:44
Speaker 2: Let's get the narrative out before somebody else lies.
28:47
Speaker 3: That's how you win this.
28:48
Speaker 1: You and I agree, So my head Cook go to
28:50
Speaker 1: her websitemheadcook dot com. Also she's an attorney CEO of
28:53
Speaker 1: American Frontier Strategies. Let's finish with Makmudda Khalil, the guy
28:57
Speaker 1: you brought up a couple of times. This guy's an
28:58
Speaker 1: anti Israel activist. They were trying to keep Jews off campuses.
29:01
Speaker 1: They were shutting down campus by by flying the Palestate
29:04
Speaker 1: of the Hamas flag, even not just the Palestinian flag.
29:07
Speaker 1: Is if there's a Palestine, there isn't. But having said
29:10
Speaker 1: all of that, it turns out the guy you used
29:11
Speaker 1: to work for an organization that would probably have disqualified
29:14
Speaker 1: him from becoming a permanent resident here. Should his residency
29:18
Speaker 1: be taken away? Why is he here to begin with?
29:20
Speaker 1: Why aren't there better checks and balances? Why don't we
29:21
Speaker 1: find out this so much later? And even if he
29:24
Speaker 1: didn't lie on his application, if you're somebody who is
29:27
Speaker 1: a pro terrorist organization activist shutting down college campuses, isn't
29:33
Speaker 1: that disqualifying retroactively?
29:36
Speaker 3: Look one hundred percent?
29:38
Speaker 2: It is a privilege, not a right to come to
29:40
Speaker 2: the United States of America. And the reason we didn't
29:42
Speaker 2: catch the Sooners because Mamyu Khalil was on a student visa.
29:46
Speaker 2: He lied, he misrepresented who he was on an application, and.
29:50
Speaker 3: He was approved.
29:51
Speaker 2: And for a second, let's just pretend he never lied, which,
29:54
Speaker 2: by the way, is disqualifying.
29:55
Speaker 3: You immediately get kicked out of the United States.
29:57
Speaker 2: But let's say his visa application was per This is
30:01
Speaker 2: the part you don't get to do. You don't get
30:02
Speaker 2: to come here on a visa and then continue to
30:06
Speaker 2: become a threat to national security, which is exactly what
30:09
Speaker 2: he was. And the Secretary of State under two twelve
30:13
Speaker 2: of THENA has the ability to kick out any foreigner
30:17
Speaker 2: who has come into this country and is ensuing chaos
30:20
Speaker 2: or is a threat to national security, and that is
30:23
Speaker 2: a that is not only the law. That is exactly
30:26
Speaker 2: what Marco Ruba has said that this individual does not
30:29
Speaker 2: belong here. He is a threat to national security. So
30:31
Speaker 2: the fact that we're arguing about some guy who has come,
30:35
Speaker 2: he's lied here, he's continued to ensue rhetoric, violent rhetoric
30:39
Speaker 2: against Jewish individuals.
30:40
Speaker 3: I mean, he doesn't belong here.
30:42
Speaker 2: I think our visa system is based on integrity and
30:45
Speaker 2: people who want to be here and assimilate.
30:47
Speaker 3: He doesn't get the First.
30:49
Speaker 2: Amendment based on a student visa, Like that's the biggest
30:52
Speaker 2: laughable thing. Everybody wants to talk about free speech, Well,
30:54
Speaker 2: your visa does not come with free speech.
30:56
Speaker 3: Her, buddy, I'm.
30:57
Speaker 1: Just about out of time with my head cook, I
30:59
Speaker 1: can talk to every two more hours. Let me ask
31:00
Speaker 1: you one last question, and I wonder what your opinion
31:03
Speaker 1: is on this elon Omar. It turns out there is
31:06
Speaker 1: more evidence that she did marry her biological brother than
31:09
Speaker 1: not to bring him here illegally to make him an
31:13
Speaker 1: immigrant legally. Again, if she married her brother, that is fraud.
31:17
Speaker 1: We're also questioning what her birthdate is we're not sure
31:20
Speaker 1: how old she was when she allegedly was naturalized herself.
31:23
Speaker 1: If you're in the DOJ and you're looking at that case,
31:27
Speaker 1: is there a case there? I'm not sure she's here.
31:29
Speaker 3: Legally, there's absolutely a case.
31:32
Speaker 2: Look, I practiced immigration law and I can tell you
31:34
Speaker 2: how many couples came and talked to me about how
31:37
Speaker 2: they were quote married, and you could just tell it
31:40
Speaker 2: was not a love marriage.
31:41
Speaker 3: It was strictly for the visa.
31:42
Speaker 2: And I hate to say this, but it's true, and
31:44
Speaker 2: many cultures outside the United States it is absolutely appropriate.
31:48
Speaker 2: Although I find it disgusting to marry a cousin, a brother,
31:53
Speaker 2: or somebody else, and in Somalia this is prevalent. So
31:57
Speaker 2: if she married her brother and committed fraud, we should
32:01
Speaker 2: be pulling her status. And this is something that must
32:04
Speaker 2: be investigated in addition to her alleged fraud. I mean,
32:07
Speaker 2: how do you go from a nobody to a multi
32:11
Speaker 2: millionaire in.
32:12
Speaker 3: The state of Minnesota.
32:13
Speaker 2: There's so many issues here with ilhan Omar, and she
32:17
Speaker 2: should be held accountable and she would be actually the
32:20
Speaker 2: golden child for the Republican Party to show what happens
32:23
Speaker 2: when you break the law. I mean, she is a
32:25
Speaker 2: prime example of how we have allowed this, Joe. We're
32:28
Speaker 2: allowing our system to be crushed and broken down by
32:31
Speaker 2: illegal So if we let her off the hook, well
32:34
Speaker 2: then the floodgates are going to open, and anybody is
32:36
Speaker 2: going to come here and marry their brother, commit alleged
32:39
Speaker 2: fraud and get rich off of taxpayers. But yes, there's
32:42
Speaker 2: a case to be made here and we should be
32:44
Speaker 2: looking into it.
32:45
Speaker 1: Republicans in the House are so weak they could even
32:47
Speaker 1: censure her. Think about it.
32:48
Speaker 3: That.
32:48
Speaker 1: Let that marinate for a second. It is mahic Cook.
32:51
Speaker 1: It's m e h e Kcook dot com. Go follow
32:54
Speaker 1: her all with social media as well. She's an amazing attorney.
32:57
Speaker 1: Love doing this. Heck, let's do it again very soon
32:59
Speaker 1: in credit Doble Information.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much.
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