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Yoreh De’ah 296:32-40. Kilei HaKerem: Defining Kerem Vineyard Vs Gefen Single Vine, Spacing and Configuration · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK. We are doing Kiliya Karan Resh
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  Saadi Vog and we're continuing with Lamad bet.
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  If Lamad bet, just a quick recap that from a Karen was
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  categorized as a Karen, a vineyard, a group of vines.
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  It's we're going to learn what that is a minimum definition,
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  but a Karen in order to plant next to it it you need to be at
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  least four Amos away or or a wall in between.
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  We'll learn the halafas of a wall coming up soon.
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  And if it's a single vine, right, you just plant it
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  straight into the ground. One shoot one.
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  Then it is you only have to be 6 to fuck him or one AMA away or a
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  wall. OK, Ahmed bet haita Shura afacho
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  gufanum zo bedsadzo. If you have a straight line of
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  gefanim afilo hen Maya even 100 vines. 100 right?
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  They sources ekars, trunks, whatever you call it, that go
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  into the ground, 100 of them, one after another.
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  Since it's a straight line aimsa Karam, it's not a halacha Karam.
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  Karam is a vineyard, it's a group of vines.
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  LLK Geffen yahidi. It's like a guy who just plants
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  1 Geffen in his foam all by itself for his whatever his
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  backyard. This farm doesn't matter.
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  It's considered one single Geffen.
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  Who? Mahik minha Shura, she shot
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  Swahim Vizzarea since it doesn't have the din of a caramel, has a
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  din of a Geffen it you only have to be 6 swahim away from it and
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  then you can plant right? And then you can plant OK.
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  You don't have to be daled almost away.
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  OK, we'll see if there's a wall. We're going to learn it could be
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  even closer. But OK, there's no wall.
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  It's just space and it's, and I'll just point out now so I
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  don't forget an important CLO when it comes to Kilia carom,
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  the distance between the Geffen and the other produce, greens,
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  vegetables that you're planting, it doesn't matter.
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  You don't look at the shirush in the roots that it's irrelevant
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  to the Halafa, the halafa of Kiliakaram, the holiosoad is
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  based on what you see above the ground, what is niqar to your
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  eyes? And so that's OK, so that you'll
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  see how far apart it has to be or if there's a just a thin
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  little wall in between, that's not a problem, it's a problem.
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  And well, OK, we'll discuss it afterwards.
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  The general roots are not an issue whatsoever, Hayush Deshi
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  wrote. If you have two rows of vines, I
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  raise a Karen and then it's called a Karen.
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  We'll keep reading with Sarah Klarky Garba almost been called
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  Saad. The Akharkov is is Roth.
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  You have to at least then once you have a halacha definition of
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  a Karen, then it has to be dollar almost away the comma.
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  Yeah, they call Shura and we just said the minimum to be
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  called the Karim is 2 rows. How many gefanium or how many
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  vines in each row? It has to at least be shosha,
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  gefanium or yatir. So if you have like a diagram of
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  V6 that would turn into a Karim in this in in this situation, if
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  they're all in line, two straight lines, 2 rows, you have
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  the three and three. Then it is called the Karen.
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  We'll see later on that it could even be 5.
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  But generally with this configuration of two rows, so
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  then it's a three and three. And OK, that's the minimum.
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  We're Medevareim, Amourim, Kishaya being called Geffen.
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  The Geffen, in order for these two rows to be considered 2
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  rows, right? As if I plant one row in my
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  house and then three blocks away you live and you plant a row in
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  your house. Well, that's not a care.
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  It has to be, has to be close enough, but it can't be too
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  close. If it's too close, then we look
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  at it as one Shura, maybe a little bit a wide shroud or
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  whatever squiggly Shura, whatever you want to call it if
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  you're having. If they're too close to each
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  other, it's we just call that one shuran.
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  If it's too far apart, then they're completely separate and
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  it's in. Each one has its own Geffen, so
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  it has to be between 4:00 and 8:00.
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  That's the magic #4 and 8 here, avao imaya vein shirot shimona
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  ammot. Let's say each Shura, right?
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  You have one Shura of three or 100, and another Shura of three
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  or 100 makes no difference. Then if there's 8 almost in
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  between, that's how you initially planted it, right?
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  We're going to see. You can have you plant it one
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  way, and then if you plant it properly and it's all one big
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  Karen we're going to see, and then you get a patch, some of it
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  gets uprooted. We're going to see that it needs
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  to be more than 8. But right now you planted 8
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  L'chaquila. That's right, you, you started
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  from scratch and there's 8 Amos in between each Shura, Kurzmi,
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  magoma, guffanium, right away from the outside of the
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  guffanium. In other words, there's a queer
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  8IN between the vines when you see them going in the trunks,
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  going into the ground. So then Hare ELU kima Mubdello
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  zo Muzo would consider them separate.
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  And it's not a caram, it's separate vines, the anam caram
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  effort, the anam market, Elisha tsvahim miko Shiraz.
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  So then you only have to be 6 tsvahim away.
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  And then you can plant your cucumbers, tomatoes or wheat or
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  whatever you want. But hey, hey, mayabenayam pahot
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  me arba. Now, if it's less than four
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  Amos, you're 2 Shiraz. You plant them right near each
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  other. That's how you wanted to do it.
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  You don't have enough space in your yard.
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  And you put two rows right near each other, right within 4 Amos
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  of each other. Geffen.
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  That's considered one Geffen, Umaraki, shisha tsvahim, lokol
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  ruach. And then, and then you only have
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  to be 6 spahim away. OK, let's read Lam and gemo Ayu.
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  This is a continuation. Are you shalosh Shirot?
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  What happens if you have 3 rows? All right, the three lines, 3
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  rows, one, right? All next to each other.
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  Afalpi shyesh benaam pakod me arba.
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  Now let's say you have 3 rows, the row one and row three there.
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  As long as those two are more than 4 and less than 8, then
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  that's also going to be called a Karam because you do.
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  I need more than four and less than 8 because I raise a
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  lukaram. We call this a Karam, the
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  rohematam. We just you know, what's it
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  called when you just close an eye, you show a blind but you
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  then you just just pretend there's no middle row.
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  You ignore the middle ward middle row exactly.
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  And then you just look at the outer 2.
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  And again, if those two are closer than 4, then that's also
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  considered one. And if there are more than 8,
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  then it's too far apart. Now the middle 1 though can make
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  them so that it's closer to 8. I think it's understood as long
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  as they one to two has to be between 4:00 and 8:00 or 1:00 to
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  8:00 has to one row, row one and row 3 has to be between 4:00 and
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  8:00 and then that's eight. Kara.
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  OK, love it. Doll, are you shalosh rows?
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  Now you have 3 rows, but it is between 1:00 and 3:00, less than
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  four almost. And that's still only that's
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  only one. If you have 5 rows all right
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  next to each other, it's not probably a good idea that they
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  need space. But if you have 5 in a rows all
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  next to each other and all 5 from 1 to 5, they're within 4
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  Amos. That's considered a Geffen, and
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  it's only 6 Sparken away. Kilamadala, how you shalo shirot
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  you have 3 rows ubenco shuravi Shura shruna Amos.
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  Now between each Shura you have 8 Amos or or more, right?
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  We learned this already. Harez des zarea bena shuru.
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  Then it's each one is its own Geffen and you only have to be a
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  six tfahim away from the Geffen. So if you have 8 Amos in
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  between, that's 8 * 6. That's about 48 tfahim.
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  So you just have to be 6 away from each side and that gives
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  you about what the 36 fucking to grow produce right in between.
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  That's not a problem. La fija.
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  Therefore hano tea ET cromo MI tequila, if that's how you grew
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  it. La chaquila, that's how you
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  planted it. All right, The Hiroshi Bane,
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  coal shraga, Shrash Mona. And then you distance each row 8
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  Amos from each other. Motorola Hadiz, 0 Rotolfa.
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  You're a lot of plant seeds in between.
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  Markik, Nicole Schwab, Ishirat. She shuts fuckin real bad.
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  You only have to be 6 fuckin away.
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  I'm Zara, Hutzalo, Sarika, Arba, Amos, Kisha Ara crawling.
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  And what's that the aim Din bina shirocho zah Karen, Karen.
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  All right, so two things over here.
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  If now this is a din Derabanan, this we said over here, if you
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  have two shiroz or you have a well, we a farmer would call a
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  vineyard to go in your backyard or your whole your lands where
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  you're planting if the distance between each row is 8 Amos.
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  So technically we learned you a lot of plant in between, right?
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  As long as you're 6th fucking away and that's OK.
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  Halakhalamaya said. However, if you're going to
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  plant not in between the rows, but at the edge, the outskirts
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  of your vineyard that you're planting, even though
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  Medarayisad has a halacha definition of a Geffen, I mean,
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  there are, but on you still have, if you're going to plant
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  on the outside, since it looks like a layman who's walking by
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  and looking at your vineyard, you're going to call that a
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  vineyard. So since it looks like a
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  vineyard, it looks like a carom. And since you're only planting
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  on the outside, then because there's no break in the middle,
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  there's no separation. It just looks to you.
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  You just look at it as a solid vineyard.
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  So then if you're going to plant on the outside, you have to, you
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  have to distance it. Dalid Amos OK, And then in the
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  last part, so we just said what I kind of alluded to, as as long
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  as you, you only need 8 to separate them that you're
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  allowed to plant in the middle, if that's how you planted it.
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  La Khatrilla. However, if you had a normal,
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  you know, because normally you want to be productive and you
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  don't want to waste your land. So you're not, you're, when you
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  plant your vineyard, you're going to want to plant the seeds
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  of grapes closer than 8 Amos. So normally you're going to have
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  a full vineyard. Your whole shut dock, your whole
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  area is going to be full of vineyards.
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  You'll have a space of four Amos because that's the way you
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  normally plant so that you have room for your cows or whatever
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  it is, your tractors to go in between.
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  That's just how it's normally done.
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  So you're going to normally have 4 Amos, but you're not going to
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  normally want there to be 8 Amos anyway.
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  You have a normal field full, a regular vineyard and it's a
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  carom, but then you end up, we're going to see it.
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  You can end up where part of the carom that dies, it's it's
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  uprooted and you don't have a, you have a area of land where
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  it's there's no caraman, there's no vineyard, there's no vine
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  over there in a certain area. So then you're going to, since
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  it's after the fact, you're going to need more than 8 ammo
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  separation in order to be able to plant over there.
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  We'll see. It's going to be 16 or to put
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  them a foolish. We'll see.
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  Let's let's keep going. Lahmed Hey haita besidezzo Shura
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  akashogafani ubesideh avero Shura ajeris connecta krovala.
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  Let's say your field or your backyard doesn't have a wall in
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  between you and your neighbor and your land.
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  Right hits jets onto his land and right at the edge of his
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  land he wants to plant the vines and you are also on your side on
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  your property right next to him. You want to plant vines and
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  they're right near each other. Alpha Pisha masik pineam dera a
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  Yahid or dera a Robin or geder Shu namur miasara.
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  Even though there is a walkway, you're able to walk in between
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  and it's a small little path or you have a little bit of a fence
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  to show that which is your property and his property, but
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  it's less. The height of the fence is less
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  than 10 fakhim. So if it's less than 10 fakhim,
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  halachically it's not a wall, it's not a fence, it's nothing.
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  So since it doesn't, it's his row and your row, since they're
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  within 8 Amos of each other, the army starved to be called a
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  Karam. So you can have a Karam even
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  though one row is yours owned by one person and one row is owned
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  by another person. Doesn't matter.
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  It's physically, they're all they're near each other and
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  there's no wall in between. That's a Karam, right?
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  As long as it's within 8 Amos, right That we we mentioned.
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  OK, La movaf. If it's less than four, it's
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  less than four. It's only one and it's a Geffen.
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  Yeah, yeah, La movaf nata Shura ahas.
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  Now you plant one row Bharats. The Shura ahas be madriga.
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  And right there's a on your land, there's a steppe.
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  There's a part of the land, there's a natural steppe height
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  and on two different levels, right, the vertically two
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  different, the planes two different like a step.
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  OK, So then right, Sometimes you see that in particular if you're
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  building have homes on a hill from one home to another, one
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  person's property to another, a seal end up with a step.
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  OK, So in that case another sure alpha by the sure alpha by
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  Madriga in Gavoa Madriga Maharat Asarat Fahim.
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  If the step is 10th fakhim apart, a height is the height of
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  from one person whatever 1 area to the next area is 10th fakhim
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  apart in height anom midstarpheim.
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  It's not midstarif to turn a Geffen 2 rows into a Cairn, but
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  if it's pacho it may become midstarpheim.
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  But if it's up to it's less than tenths Fakhim, even if it's 9
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  1/2, then those two rows could be misstarif to turn into a
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  Cairn Lamanzai and Otea Hamesh Gafani.
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  So here we're going to see the absolute minimum so far we just
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  mentioned. We mentioned so far, the minimum
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  is 6 Gafani, you have two rows and opposite each other, you end
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  up with three and three. That was the minimum so far.
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  But we're going to say actually the actual real minimum is 5.
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  Now what's the configuration? The minimum of five to turn it
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  into a carom where you have to be Daladamus away.
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  It's shteyim, Kanagan shteyim. If basically it's like a box, a
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  square you have it could be a rectangle, but basically it's
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  two opposite too. And like in the in the picture
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  it's in, I don't know, it's in my ties.
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  It's in my Baragola. I sent it out on the on the
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  WhatsApp. If it's you have a square that's
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  four points for Gefani, right? You plant where the vine comes
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  out of four places in the ground.
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  The Ahat Yosef Zanov an expression is and then the fifth
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  one is a tail. But so Mahlokas, what that
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  means? Where is that tail?
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  But let's just we'll, we'll go with what's brought over here.
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  The tail is in the in the middle.
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  OK and so. As if you had each of the define
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  and and the tail are the legs on the tail.
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  Yeah, exactly. Fine, 4 legs and the tail is the
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  middle and that's in the middle, right?
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  OK, Michael could be showing you if that tail could be on the
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  side or not, but OK, that could be 3 and two.
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  But anyways, so we have the Zanab leaves, the middle Hareza
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  Nikra Karim Khatam. This is a small Karim.
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  That's Hari Mahan Arba Hamasaka Ruach.
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  And so once you get a Karim from all directions, from all from
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  the edge of all five of them, you have to be 4 almost away
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  before you're able to the plant. All right, others right, Abbaim
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  Nitan Stein, Kanagit Stein. But if you have two and two like
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  a box or it's a rectangle, right?
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  And then the middle 1 is not like a zana where it's outside
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  the box. It's the fifth one is on is
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  inside between all of them inside the box, the tips of the.
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  Of the domino, which are. Showing the number OK like on a
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  domino #5 OK or dice #5 OK. So in that it would be everyone
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  agrees that is not a Karen. Oh Shalosh Kishura Ushtayam
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  Kinnegda or here the Chalkanak Baskins.
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  If it's three on one side and two on one side also depends how
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  you have that depends how you here that has a picture where a
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  little dipper the little partial of a little different.
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  But OK, so then no, I know I do. Yeah, Yeah, right.
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  So if you were to have, well, that's.
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  What the What's my Sabre needs but it's not going to have?
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  So if you have the four that we said it could be, let's say it's
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  a rectangle of four, and then on one of them it's 3 instead of 2
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  because and you put that third one in the middle of those two,
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  like it's printed in the Taser I sent out that everyone agrees
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  for sure is not a Cairn where it's a mahalo as if you have it.
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  That third one extends like a tail, like if your animal would
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  be standing up vertical. So the tail is on the back or on
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  the top, if that makes any sense to you.
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  Whatever, Big Dipper. OK, anyway, let's go on.
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  And you only have to be 4 Karim. Now you had a Karim.
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  It was a full field of vines and then a portion of it got
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  destroyed or dried up. It's not it's not there anymore.
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  You have an area of bits of 50 by 50 almost if you have in
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  there 10 Gefanium remaining the unit 2IN Stein connect, but you
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  still need that proper configuration.
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  So of Stein Kinegetstein, the athat Yosenov.
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  So then it would still be a called the Karam.
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  Oh, sheesh. Well, having shalosh, kineget
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  shalosh or if you have three opposite 3 like we mentioned, if
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  you see if you might go the either way, a Raisin Nikra caram
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  doll. This is called a pours pour a
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  caram because it's not wasn't like it used to be.
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  The OK. The asur is ROA bekulo and then
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  it's asur to plant within all of it the whole area wherever the
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  caram is. OK Karen shaina natua shurot
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  shurot element urbav. What if it's just haphazard,
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  right and it's not in these proper rows in yezh
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  Bolakhavnstein connected Shalosh Raza Karen we in love Enoch
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  Karen Allah diola hichisha talking Nicole gaffen V Gaffen
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  vizzarea. So in order for it to be
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  halacha, Karen, you have to be able to have two connected
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  three, right? It's a lot of them and you have
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  two connected three. OK, fine, ma'am.
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  Ikarim Makuva. Note then of Eno Makuva and I
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  raise a caring if the trunk of the vine are in line with the
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  configurations that we mentioned.
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  So then that's a caring. But if it's the node, it's the
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  whole vine itself that keeps on growing, then that's and.
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  And it doesn't have to be in its proper configuration because
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  really the whole length of the vine is completely irrelevant.
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  That's what this whole is telling you.
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  When it goes by the configuration, you do not look
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  at the branches or the vines how it's growing.
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  You only look at the points of where it comes out of the
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  ground. So therefore I know if all the
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  the branch of the vines or whatever the the shoots that
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  grow would be would form this proper configuration to turn it
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  into a Karen. However, we Haikar Anomachuban.
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  But if you look at the source, the trunks of where the vine
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  comes out of the ground, there's no configuration like we
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  mentioned before to turn it into a Karen.
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  So then ano Karen, it's not a Karen.
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  How you duckle to the Anon, the Anon, Karen, when you first
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  planted it, the chute was so, you know, very, very skinny.
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  It was very, very small and so there doesn't line up.
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  But then as they grew up, they became much thicker.
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  And then as it became thicker, then they basically overlap,
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  maybe, maybe not 100%, but there is overlap where you see that
• 24:17
  they line up and it becomes into this configuration as it gets,
• 24:21
  as it gets wider. So then you look.
• 24:23
  So when it reach, when it lines up, as it gets bigger at that
• 24:27
  point, when it lines up, then that is a Karen.