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- 0:06From
- 0:06the
- 0:06Mutual
- 0:07Broadcasting
- 0:08System,
- 0:08this
- 0:09is
- 0:10Strat
- 0:10Strategic
- 0:11Risk
- 0:11Assessment
- 0:12Talk.
- 0:13Now,
- 0:14retired
- 0:14Marine
- 0:15intelligence
- 0:15officer
- 0:16and
- 0:16globally
- 0:17recognized
- 0:17risk
- 0:18expert,
- 0:18Hal
- 0:18Kaemfer.
- 0:28Well,
- 0:29welcome.
- 0:29It's
- 0:29another
- 0:30Strat
- 0:30podcast
- 0:31and
- 0:32we're
- 0:32going
- 0:32to
- 0:32be
- 0:33having
- 0:33truly,
- 0:34by
- 0:34the
- 0:34definition
- 0:35of
- 0:35the
- 0:35term,
- 0:35a
- 0:36strategic
- 0:36risk
- 0:37assessment
- 0:37talk.
- 0:38It
- 0:38has
- 0:38been
- 0:38an
- 0:38amazing
- 0:39week.
- 0:39There's
- 0:40been
- 0:40a
- 0:40lot
- 0:40of
- 0:40things
- 0:40going
- 0:41on.
- 0:41It's
- 0:41been
- 0:42an
- 0:42amazing
- 0:42month,
- 0:43I
- 0:43should
- 0:43say.
- 0:44It's
- 0:44not
- 0:44slowing
- 0:45down
- 0:45in
- 0:46the
- 0:46least
- 0:46and
- 0:47I'm
- 0:47going
- 0:47to
- 0:47hit
- 0:47a
- 0:47lot
- 0:48of
- 0:48different
- 0:48things
- 0:48again.
- 0:49And
- 0:49I
- 0:49guess
- 0:49at
- 0:49some
- 0:50point
- 0:50I'll
- 0:50quit
- 0:51saying
- 0:51this,
- 0:51but
- 0:52every
- 0:53time
- 0:53I
- 0:53do
- 0:53this,
- 0:53I
- 0:53still
- 0:54think
- 0:54of
- 0:54my
- 0:54Strat
- 0:55co
- 0:55host,
- 0:56Mark
- 0:56Mansfield,
- 0:57who,
- 0:57you
- 0:57know,
- 0:57tragically
- 0:58passed
- 0:58away
- 0:59last
- 0:59Christmas.
- 1:00And
- 1:00I
- 1:00just
- 1:00wish
- 1:01every
- 1:01day
- 1:01that
- 1:01he
- 1:02was
- 1:02here.
- 1:02There's
- 1:02hardly
- 1:03a
- 1:03day
- 1:03that
- 1:03goes
- 1:03by
- 1:04that
- 1:04something
- 1:05doesn't
- 1:05pop
- 1:05up
- 1:05in
- 1:05the
- 1:05news.
- 1:06I
- 1:06go,
- 1:06I
- 1:06got
- 1:06to
- 1:06call
- 1:06Mark.
- 1:07Anyway,
- 1:07let
- 1:07me
- 1:08move
- 1:08on
- 1:08and
- 1:09let's
- 1:09talk
- 1:09about
- 1:09what's
- 1:10been
- 1:10happening.
- 1:11Of
- 1:11course,
- 1:11one
- 1:11of
- 1:11the
- 1:12things
- 1:12hanging
- 1:12over
- 1:14for
- 1:14a
- 1:14very
- 1:14long
- 1:15time,
- 1:15hanging
- 1:15over
- 1:16everybody's
- 1:16heads,
- 1:17was
- 1:18when
- 1:19and
- 1:19how
- 1:19Israel
- 1:20would
- 1:20respond
- 1:22to
- 1:22the
- 1:22Iranian
- 1:23ballistic
- 1:24missile
- 1:24attacks
- 1:25of
- 1:25October
- 1:251st.
- 1:26This
- 1:27was
- 1:27the
- 1:27second
- 1:27time
- 1:28that
- 1:28Iran
- 1:29had
- 1:29attacked
- 1:31Israel
- 1:31directly.
- 1:32You
- 1:32may
- 1:33recall
- 1:33last
- 1:33April,
- 1:34they
- 1:35launched
- 1:35somewhere
- 1:36around
- 1:37almost
- 1:37300
- 1:38drones
- 1:39and
- 1:39ballistic
- 1:40missiles
- 1:41towards
- 1:41Israel,
- 1:42which
- 1:43were
- 1:43pretty
- 1:43much
- 1:44almost
- 1:44all
- 1:45of
- 1:45them
- 1:45were
- 1:45interdicted.
- 1:47So
- 1:48Israel
- 1:49then
- 1:50reportedly
- 1:51responded
- 1:52with
- 1:52something
- 1:53that
- 1:53akin
- 1:53to
- 1:53a
- 1:54stealth
- 1:54attack,
- 1:55which
- 1:55was
- 1:56taking
- 1:57out
- 1:57a
- 1:58S300.
- 1:59That's
- 2:00a
- 2:00air
- 2:00defense
- 2:01missile
- 2:01system
- 2:01the
- 2:02Russians
- 2:02have.
- 2:02It's
- 2:02one
- 2:02of
- 2:03the
- 2:03more
- 2:03advanced
- 2:03ones,
- 2:03not
- 2:04the
- 2:04most
- 2:04advanced
- 2:04one,
- 2:05but
- 2:05one
- 2:05of
- 2:05the
- 2:05more
- 2:05advanced
- 2:06ones.
- 2:06Most
- 2:06advanced
- 2:07one.
- 2:07The
- 2:07Iranians
- 2:07have
- 2:08took
- 2:08it
- 2:08out
- 2:09near
- 2:09a
- 2:09very
- 2:09sensitive
- 2:10site,
- 2:11a
- 2:11place
- 2:11that
- 2:11the
- 2:11Iranians
- 2:12thought
- 2:12was
- 2:13somewhat
- 2:13impervious
- 2:14to
- 2:14attack
- 2:14or
- 2:15strike.
- 2:15And
- 2:16that
- 2:16was
- 2:16to
- 2:16send
- 2:17a
- 2:17message.
- 2:18And
- 2:18the
- 2:18message
- 2:19is,
- 2:19you
- 2:19won't
- 2:19see
- 2:19us
- 2:20coming.
- 2:20And
- 2:20we
- 2:21can
- 2:21hit
- 2:21pretty
- 2:21much
- 2:21anywhere
- 2:22to
- 2:22include
- 2:22the
- 2:23places
- 2:23you
- 2:23think
- 2:23are
- 2:24most
- 2:24well,
- 2:25most
- 2:25heavily
- 2:25defended
- 2:25or
- 2:26best
- 2:26defended.
- 2:27In
- 2:27Iran,
- 2:29that
- 2:29message
- 2:30was
- 2:30clearly
- 2:30lost
- 2:31on
- 2:31Ayatollah
- 2:32Khomeini,
- 2:33lost
- 2:34on
- 2:34the
- 2:34Revolutionary
- 2:35Guard
- 2:35Corps,
- 2:36lost
- 2:37on
- 2:37his
- 2:37command
- 2:38staff.
- 2:39Basically,
- 2:40it
- 2:40was
- 2:40very
- 2:41subtle
- 2:41the
- 2:41way
- 2:41it
- 2:41was
- 2:42done.
- 2:42And
- 2:43everyone
- 2:43was
- 2:44very
- 2:44pleased
- 2:44that
- 2:45Israel
- 2:45had
- 2:45shown
- 2:45great
- 2:46restraint
- 2:47in
- 2:48terms
- 2:48of
- 2:48this.
- 2:48Well,
- 2:49you
- 2:49know,
- 2:49of
- 2:49course,
- 2:50a
- 2:50lot
- 2:50of
- 2:50things
- 2:50have
- 2:51happened
- 2:51since
- 2:51April.
- 2:52You
- 2:52know,
- 2:52Haniyeh,
- 2:53the
- 2:53head
- 2:53of
- 2:53Hamas,
- 2:54the
- 2:54political
- 2:55side
- 2:55of
- 2:55Hamas
- 2:55out
- 2:56of
- 2:56Doha,
- 2:57was
- 2:57not
- 2:57just
- 2:58assassinated,
- 2:59but
- 2:59he
- 2:59was
- 2:59actually
- 3:00assassinated
- 3:01in
- 3:02a
- 3:02Revolutionary
- 3:03Guard
- 3:03safe
- 3:04house
- 3:04in
- 3:04Tehran.
- 3:06And
- 3:06he
- 3:06was
- 3:06there
- 3:07for
- 3:07the
- 3:07inauguration
- 3:08of
- 3:08the
- 3:09Iranian
- 3:09president.
- 3:09It
- 3:10was
- 3:10extremely
- 3:11embarrassing
- 3:12to
- 3:13Iran
- 3:13and
- 3:14that
- 3:14is
- 3:14one
- 3:14of
- 3:14the
- 3:14big
- 3:15reasons
- 3:15that
- 3:15they
- 3:15responded.
- 3:16And
- 3:16then
- 3:16of
- 3:16course
- 3:17also
- 3:18the
- 3:18Israelis
- 3:18managed
- 3:19to
- 3:19take
- 3:19out
- 3:19Nasrallah,
- 3:20the
- 3:20head
- 3:21of
- 3:21Hamas
- 3:23in
- 3:23Lebanon,
- 3:24in
- 3:24a
- 3:25very
- 3:25spectacular
- 3:25strike.
- 3:26Then
- 3:27this
- 3:27week,
- 3:27this
- 3:27last
- 3:28week,
- 3:28they
- 3:28took
- 3:28out,
- 3:29they
- 3:29admitted
- 3:30they'd
- 3:30already
- 3:30taken
- 3:30him
- 3:31out,
- 3:31but
- 3:31they
- 3:31admitted
- 3:32taking
- 3:32out
- 3:32Hassan
- 3:33Sufideen,
- 3:34which
- 3:34was
- 3:35the
- 3:35heir
- 3:36apparent
- 3:36to
- 3:37Nasrallah,
- 3:37the
- 3:38next
- 3:38head
- 3:38of
- 3:39Hezbollah.
- 3:39And
- 3:40I
- 3:40don't
- 3:40want
- 3:40to
- 3:41get
- 3:41into
- 3:41all
- 3:41of
- 3:42the
- 3:42leaders
- 3:42of
- 3:43Hezbollah,
- 3:43Hamas,
- 3:44ET,
- 3:44etc.
- 3:45And
- 3:46of
- 3:46course
- 3:46also
- 3:47in
- 3:47these
- 3:47strikes,
- 3:48they
- 3:48took
- 3:48out
- 3:48the
- 3:48head
- 3:48of
- 3:48the
- 3:49Al
- 3:49Quds
- 3:49Force
- 3:50who
- 3:50was
- 3:51reportedly
- 3:51with
- 3:51Sufideen
- 3:52standing
- 3:52next
- 3:53to
- 3:53him
- 3:53when
- 3:54he
- 3:54was
- 3:54struck,
- 3:54and
- 3:55the
- 3:55Revolutionary
- 3:56Guard
- 3:56Corps
- 3:56who
- 3:56was
- 3:56standing
- 3:57next
- 3:57to
- 3:58Nasrallah
- 3:59when
- 3:59he
- 3:59was
- 3:59struck.
- 4:00So
- 4:00just
- 4:00an
- 4:00amazing
- 4:01series
- 4:02of
- 4:02decapitation
- 4:03strikes
- 4:04across
- 4:04the
- 4:04board.
- 4:04Anyway,
- 4:05all
- 4:05of
- 4:05that
- 4:05has
- 4:05led
- 4:06to
- 4:06what
- 4:07the
- 4:07Iranians
- 4:07did
- 4:08on
- 4:08October
- 4:095th
- 4:09and
- 4:10that
- 4:10has
- 4:10led
- 4:10to
- 4:10what
- 4:11just
- 4:11happened,
- 4:12which
- 4:12is
- 4:13the
- 4:13Israeli
- 4:14response.
- 4:14Now
- 4:15what
- 4:15did
- 4:15Israel
- 4:16do?
- 4:16Well,
- 4:17on
- 4:18basically,
- 4:19I
- 4:20don't
- 4:20know,
- 4:21you
- 4:21could
- 4:21say,
- 4:22you
- 4:23know,
- 4:23Saturday
- 4:23night,
- 4:24I
- 4:24guess
- 4:25there's
- 4:25a
- 4:25big
- 4:25time
- 4:26difference
- 4:26between
- 4:26the
- 4:26US
- 4:27and
- 4:27over
- 4:27there.
- 4:28But
- 4:28in
- 4:28the
- 4:28wee
- 4:29hours
- 4:29of
- 4:29the
- 4:29morning,
- 4:30there
- 4:30was
- 4:30a
- 4:31massive
- 4:32Israeli
- 4:32strike
- 4:33involved
- 4:33over
- 4:33100
- 4:34strike
- 4:35aircraft
- 4:36of
- 4:36various
- 4:37different
- 4:37types
- 4:37that
- 4:37I
- 4:37would
- 4:38remind
- 4:39everyone
- 4:39that
- 4:39they
- 4:40fly
- 4:40the
- 4:40F35
- 4:41which
- 4:42is
- 4:42one
- 4:42of
- 4:42the
- 4:42most
- 4:42advanced
- 4:43fighter
- 4:43bombers
- 4:43we
- 4:43have.
- 4:44They
- 4:44also
- 4:45fly
- 4:45the
- 4:4615,
- 4:46the
- 4:47more
- 4:47advanced
- 4:4815
- 4:48Eagles.
- 4:49These
- 4:49are,
- 4:51these
- 4:51are
- 4:51not
- 4:51the
- 4:52ones
- 4:52from
- 4:52way
- 4:53back
- 4:53when
- 4:53in
- 4:53the
- 4:5370s.
- 4:54These
- 4:54are
- 4:55very
- 4:55advanced
- 4:56strike
- 4:56aircraft
- 4:57and
- 4:57of
- 4:58course
- 4:58F16s
- 4:59as
- 4:59well.
- 5:00All
- 5:00of
- 5:00these
- 5:00flew
- 5:01very
- 5:01long
- 5:02missions.
- 5:02Now
- 5:02some
- 5:02of
- 5:02the,
- 5:03some
- 5:03of
- 5:03the
- 5:03target
- 5:03sets
- 5:04were
- 5:04closer
- 5:04to
- 5:05Israel
- 5:06than
- 5:06some
- 5:06of
- 5:06the
- 5:06others.
- 5:06They
- 5:07did
- 5:07get
- 5:07all
- 5:07the
- 5:07way
- 5:08into
- 5:08Tehran,
- 5:08in
- 5:09and
- 5:09around
- 5:09Tehran.
- 5:10There
- 5:10were,
- 5:11there
- 5:11are
- 5:11videos
- 5:12that
- 5:12are
- 5:12out
- 5:12there
- 5:13circulating
- 5:13taken
- 5:14from
- 5:14Tehran
- 5:15residents
- 5:16where
- 5:16you
- 5:17hear
- 5:18constant
- 5:18explosions
- 5:19and
- 5:19stuff.
- 5:20You
- 5:20hear
- 5:20anti
- 5:20aircraft
- 5:21fire,
- 5:22but
- 5:22you
- 5:22can
- 5:22clearly
- 5:23hear
- 5:23what
- 5:23sounds
- 5:23like
- 5:24something
- 5:24big
- 5:25exploding
- 5:25in
- 5:25the
- 5:26distance.
- 5:27And
- 5:27those
- 5:27would
- 5:27probably
- 5:28be
- 5:28the
- 5:28Israeli
- 5:28strike
- 5:29missions
- 5:29hitting
- 5:30various
- 5:30targets
- 5:31in
- 5:31and
- 5:31around
- 5:31Tehran.
- 5:32Part
- 5:33of
- 5:33that
- 5:33is
- 5:33for
- 5:33the
- 5:34physical
- 5:34attack,
- 5:35taking
- 5:35out
- 5:35air
- 5:35defense
- 5:36in
- 5:36Tehran,
- 5:37which
- 5:37of
- 5:37course
- 5:37degrades
- 5:38the
- 5:38ability
- 5:38of
- 5:38Tehran
- 5:39to
- 5:39defend
- 5:39itself
- 5:40the
- 5:40next
- 5:41time
- 5:41there
- 5:41might
- 5:41be
- 5:42a
- 5:42strike.
- 5:43But
- 5:43also
- 5:44it
- 5:44is
- 5:44a
- 5:44big
- 5:44psychological
- 5:46operation
- 5:46in
- 5:47that
- 5:47it
- 5:47tells
- 5:48everybody
- 5:48in
- 5:49the
- 5:49capital
- 5:49city,
- 5:50well
- 5:51within
- 5:51the
- 5:52air
- 5:52defense
- 5:53envelope
- 5:54of
- 5:54Iran,
- 5:55that
- 5:55they
- 5:56are
- 5:56vulnerable,
- 5:57that
- 5:57they
- 5:57can
- 5:57be
- 5:57hit.
- 5:58And
- 5:58it
- 5:58is
- 5:58a
- 5:58bit
- 5:59of
- 5:59a
- 5:59reminder
- 5:59on
- 5:59that.
- 6:00Now
- 6:01a
- 6:01number
- 6:01of
- 6:01the
- 6:01strikes
- 6:02are
- 6:02actually
- 6:02closer
- 6:03to
- 6:03the
- 6:03border
- 6:04with
- 6:05Iraq
- 6:05and
- 6:06Kuwait
- 6:06and
- 6:06they
- 6:06took
- 6:07out
- 6:07on
- 6:07all
- 6:08the
- 6:08strikes,
- 6:08I
- 6:08should
- 6:08mention
- 6:09took
- 6:10out
- 6:10military
- 6:11sites,
- 6:11none
- 6:12of
- 6:12them
- 6:12were
- 6:12aimed
- 6:12at
- 6:12civilian
- 6:13stuff.
- 6:14They
- 6:14did
- 6:14not
- 6:15take
- 6:15out,
- 6:15they
- 6:15did
- 6:16not
- 6:16go
- 6:16after
- 6:16the
- 6:17nuclear
- 6:18facilities
- 6:18that
- 6:19had
- 6:19been
- 6:19talked
- 6:19about
- 6:20so
- 6:20much
- 6:20in
- 6:20the
- 6:20news.
- 6:21They
- 6:21did
- 6:21not
- 6:21do
- 6:21that,
- 6:22although
- 6:23there
- 6:23were
- 6:23reports
- 6:24still
- 6:24waiting
- 6:24for
- 6:25confirmation
- 6:25that
- 6:26one
- 6:26of
- 6:26the
- 6:26strikes
- 6:27may
- 6:27have
- 6:27been
- 6:28close
- 6:29to
- 6:29maybe
- 6:30not
- 6:30exactly
- 6:30on.
- 6:31Again,
- 6:31we're
- 6:32still
- 6:32waiting
- 6:32for
- 6:32more
- 6:32information,
- 6:33but
- 6:33close
- 6:34to
- 6:34one
- 6:34of
- 6:34the
- 6:35sites
- 6:35that
- 6:35Iran
- 6:36had
- 6:36said
- 6:36was
- 6:36going
- 6:37to
- 6:37become
- 6:38a
- 6:39nuclear
- 6:39research
- 6:40and
- 6:40development
- 6:40facility.
- 6:41And
- 6:42right
- 6:42now,
- 6:42if
- 6:42I
- 6:42had
- 6:42to
- 6:43guess
- 6:43or
- 6:43just
- 6:44take
- 6:44from
- 6:44what
- 6:44we
- 6:44got,
- 6:45I
- 6:45should
- 6:45say
- 6:46it
- 6:46looks
- 6:46like
- 6:46they
- 6:47may
- 6:47have
- 6:47taken
- 6:47out
- 6:47one
- 6:47or
- 6:48two
- 6:48air
- 6:48defense
- 6:49sites
- 6:50in
- 6:51and
- 6:51around
- 6:51that
- 6:51area
- 6:52just
- 6:53to
- 6:53send
- 6:53the
- 6:53message
- 6:54that
- 6:54that
- 6:54that
- 6:55particular
- 6:55location
- 6:57is
- 6:57vulnerable.
- 6:58And
- 6:58it's
- 6:58an
- 6:58interesting
- 6:59message
- 6:59that
- 6:59sends
- 6:59the
- 6:59Iranians,
- 7:00which
- 7:00is
- 7:01that
- 7:02they
- 7:02did
- 7:02not,
- 7:02they
- 7:03were,
- 7:03they
- 7:03didn't
- 7:04hit
- 7:05a
- 7:05nuclear
- 7:05site,
- 7:06and
- 7:06technically
- 7:06this
- 7:07was
- 7:07a
- 7:07nuclear
- 7:07site
- 7:07because
- 7:08it
- 7:08was
- 7:08still
- 7:08being
- 7:08built,
- 7:09but
- 7:10that
- 7:10they
- 7:10have
- 7:10the
- 7:10capability
- 7:11to
- 7:11do
- 7:12so.
- 7:12And
- 7:13that's
- 7:13an
- 7:13interesting
- 7:13one.
- 7:13The
- 7:13other
- 7:14one
- 7:14was
- 7:14they
- 7:14hit
- 7:14a
- 7:15number
- 7:15of
- 7:15things.
- 7:16A
- 7:16couple
- 7:16of
- 7:16provinces
- 7:17close
- 7:18right
- 7:18on
- 7:18the
- 7:18border
- 7:18with
- 7:18Iraq
- 7:19and
- 7:19Kuwait,
- 7:20and
- 7:20those
- 7:20are
- 7:20areas
- 7:21at
- 7:21least
- 7:21one
- 7:21of
- 7:22them,
- 7:22certainly
- 7:22the
- 7:22one
- 7:22next
- 7:23to
- 7:23Kuwait,
- 7:23that's
- 7:23an
- 7:23area
- 7:24that's
- 7:24heavy
- 7:25in
- 7:25oil
- 7:26production.
- 7:26A
- 7:26lot
- 7:26of
- 7:27oil
- 7:27fields,
- 7:27both
- 7:28of
- 7:28them
- 7:28have
- 7:28oil
- 7:28refineries.
- 7:29Oil
- 7:30pipelines
- 7:30didn't
- 7:31hit
- 7:31any
- 7:31of
- 7:31those,
- 7:31albeit
- 7:32one
- 7:32thing
- 7:32I
- 7:33should
- 7:33mention
- 7:33is
- 7:34last
- 7:34week
- 7:34there
- 7:34was
- 7:35one
- 7:35of
- 7:35the
- 7:35refineries
- 7:36in
- 7:36one
- 7:36of
- 7:36the
- 7:36areas
- 7:37that
- 7:37was
- 7:37targeted
- 7:38that
- 7:38had
- 7:38a
- 7:39mysterious
- 7:39fire,
- 7:40an
- 7:40explosion,
- 7:41a
- 7:41fire.
- 7:42I
- 7:42think
- 7:42one
- 7:42one
- 7:42person
- 7:43was
- 7:43killed.
- 7:44And
- 7:44it
- 7:44wasn't
- 7:45quite
- 7:45clear
- 7:46what
- 7:46exactly
- 7:48caused
- 7:48that
- 7:48to
- 7:49happen.
- 7:49There
- 7:50was
- 7:50speculation
- 7:51it
- 7:51might
- 7:51have
- 7:51not
- 7:51been
- 7:52accidental.
- 7:52It
- 7:53could
- 7:53have
- 7:53been
- 7:53intentional.
- 7:54And
- 7:54then
- 7:55you
- 7:55can
- 7:56read
- 7:56into
- 7:56that
- 7:57what
- 7:57you
- 7:57will
- 7:58as
- 7:58to
- 7:58how
- 7:58that
- 7:59could
- 7:59have
- 7:59been
- 7:59done.
- 8:00But
- 8:00I
- 8:00did
- 8:00find
- 8:00it
- 8:00rather
- 8:01interesting
- 8:01that
- 8:01in
- 8:01and
- 8:02around
- 8:02the
- 8:02area
- 8:02where
- 8:03that
- 8:03mysterious
- 8:03fire
- 8:04had
- 8:04taken
- 8:04place
- 8:05that
- 8:05then
- 8:05we,
- 8:06you
- 8:06see
- 8:07Israeli
- 8:08strike
- 8:08missions
- 8:09hitting
- 8:09various
- 8:10military
- 8:10targets,
- 8:11if
- 8:11you
- 8:11will,
- 8:12in
- 8:12that
- 8:12area.
- 8:13Now,
- 8:13they
- 8:14flew
- 8:14over,
- 8:15I
- 8:15don't
- 8:15know
- 8:16if
- 8:16they
- 8:16flew
- 8:16through
- 8:16Saudi
- 8:17airspace.
- 8:18I
- 8:18think
- 8:18with
- 8:18one
- 8:19of
- 8:19the
- 8:19missions,
- 8:19that's
- 8:20very
- 8:20likely.
- 8:21I
- 8:21don't
- 8:21know
- 8:21if
- 8:21they
- 8:22flew
- 8:22through
- 8:22Jordanian
- 8:23airspace,
- 8:24although
- 8:24I
- 8:24think
- 8:25that's
- 8:25very
- 8:25probable
- 8:26as
- 8:26well.
- 8:26You
- 8:26may
- 8:27recall
- 8:27that
- 8:27Iran
- 8:28had
- 8:29pretty
- 8:29much
- 8:30threatened
- 8:30Saudi
- 8:31Arabia,
- 8:31Jordan
- 8:32and
- 8:32other
- 8:33countries
- 8:33in
- 8:33the
- 8:33Middle
- 8:34east
- 8:34that
- 8:34if
- 8:34they
- 8:34allowed
- 8:35the
- 8:35Israelis
- 8:35to
- 8:36retaliate
- 8:37by
- 8:37flying
- 8:37through
- 8:37their
- 8:38airspace,
- 8:38that
- 8:38those
- 8:39countries
- 8:39themselves
- 8:40would
- 8:40become
- 8:41the
- 8:41targets
- 8:42of
- 8:42Iranian
- 8:42retaliation.
- 8:44However,
- 8:44it
- 8:44does
- 8:45appear
- 8:46that
- 8:46a
- 8:46number
- 8:46of
- 8:46the
- 8:47planes
- 8:47went
- 8:47up
- 8:48through
- 8:48Syria
- 8:49and
- 8:49Iraq.
- 8:50And
- 8:50the
- 8:51reason
- 8:51we
- 8:51know
- 8:51that
- 8:51is
- 8:52because
- 8:52they
- 8:53struck
- 8:53military
- 8:54sites
- 8:55of
- 8:55Shiite
- 8:56militias,
- 8:57Iranian
- 8:58proxy
- 8:58groups
- 8:59in
- 9:00Syria
- 9:00and
- 9:01Iraq.
- 9:01So
- 9:02we
- 9:02know
- 9:02that
- 9:02some
- 9:03planes
- 9:03went
- 9:03up
- 9:03there
- 9:03because
- 9:04they
- 9:04actually
- 9:04did
- 9:04strike
- 9:05missions
- 9:06in
- 9:06those
- 9:06countries.
- 9:07And
- 9:07of
- 9:07course,
- 9:08to
- 9:08fly
- 9:08through
- 9:09Syrian
- 9:09airspace,
- 9:10they're
- 9:10not
- 9:10going
- 9:10to
- 9:10ask
- 9:10permission.
- 9:11And
- 9:11frankly,
- 9:12to
- 9:12fly
- 9:12through
- 9:12Iraqi
- 9:13airspace,
- 9:13they're
- 9:13probably
- 9:14not
- 9:14going
- 9:14to.
- 9:14They
- 9:14wouldn't
- 9:15ask
- 9:15for
- 9:15permission
- 9:15either.
- 9:16They
- 9:17went
- 9:17through
- 9:17those
- 9:17areas
- 9:18and
- 9:18they
- 9:19hit
- 9:19those
- 9:19targets.
- 9:21Three
- 9:21waves,
- 9:22over
- 9:22100
- 9:22planes
- 9:23and
- 9:23a
- 9:24lot
- 9:24of
- 9:24damage,
- 9:24but
- 9:25no
- 9:26big.
- 9:26And
- 9:26this
- 9:26was
- 9:27something
- 9:27I
- 9:27was
- 9:27wondering,
- 9:28I'd
- 9:28said
- 9:28this
- 9:28many
- 9:28times
- 9:29in
- 9:29the
- 9:29air
- 9:29that
- 9:30I
- 9:30thought
- 9:30they
- 9:30might
- 9:30go
- 9:31after
- 9:31some
- 9:31command
- 9:31and
- 9:32control.
- 9:33They
- 9:33did
- 9:33not
- 9:33go
- 9:34directly
- 9:34after
- 9:34command
- 9:35and
- 9:35control.
- 9:35What
- 9:36they
- 9:36did
- 9:36was
- 9:36they
- 9:37went
- 9:37after
- 9:37the
- 9:37air
- 9:38defenses
- 9:38surrounding
- 9:40these
- 9:41high
- 9:41value
- 9:42targets,
- 9:42you
- 9:42know,
- 9:42like
- 9:43irg,
- 9:44Revolutionary
- 9:44Guard
- 9:45Corps
- 9:45headquarters,
- 9:46and
- 9:46certainly
- 9:47all
- 9:47the
- 9:48major
- 9:48buildings,
- 9:49facilities
- 9:50in
- 9:50and
- 9:50around
- 9:50Tehran,
- 9:51the
- 9:51capital
- 9:52city
- 9:52of
- 9:52Iran.
- 9:53They
- 9:53didn't
- 9:53hit
- 9:54them,
- 9:54but
- 9:54they
- 9:55kind
- 9:55of
- 9:55left.
- 9:55They
- 9:56left
- 9:56the
- 9:56gate
- 9:56door
- 9:57wide
- 9:57open,
- 9:57if
- 9:57you
- 9:57will,
- 9:58by
- 9:58taking
- 9:58out
- 9:58air
- 9:59defense
- 9:59and
- 9:59basically
- 10:00sending
- 10:00a
- 10:00message
- 10:00to
- 10:01Iran
- 10:01is
- 10:01okay,
- 10:02we
- 10:02did
- 10:03this,
- 10:03we
- 10:03showed
- 10:03restraint,
- 10:04and
- 10:04we'll
- 10:05see
- 10:05what
- 10:05you
- 10:05do.
- 10:05And
- 10:05if
- 10:06Iran
- 10:06retaliates
- 10:07in
- 10:07some
- 10:08way
- 10:08similar
- 10:08to
- 10:08what
- 10:08they've
- 10:08done
- 10:09in
- 10:09the
- 10:09past,
- 10:10then
- 10:11I
- 10:11would
- 10:11anticipate
- 10:12whatever
- 10:12Israel
- 10:13does
- 10:13would
- 10:13be
- 10:14much
- 10:14more
- 10:15honed
- 10:16in
- 10:17on
- 10:17going
- 10:18after
- 10:18things
- 10:18that
- 10:18are
- 10:18much
- 10:19closer
- 10:19to
- 10:20what,
- 10:20what
- 10:20maintains
- 10:21a
- 10:21regime,
- 10:22if
- 10:22you
- 10:22will,
- 10:23in,
- 10:24in,
- 10:25in
- 10:25Iran
- 10:26and
- 10:26taking
- 10:26out
- 10:26that
- 10:26autocratic
- 10:27theocratic
- 10:28regime,
- 10:28at
- 10:29least
- 10:29removing
- 10:30or
- 10:30loosening
- 10:30some
- 10:30of
- 10:30those
- 10:31pillars
- 10:31that
- 10:31prop
- 10:31it
- 10:32up.
- 10:32So
- 10:33that
- 10:33would
- 10:33be
- 10:33my
- 10:33guess
- 10:34if
- 10:34Iran
- 10:34does
- 10:35something
- 10:35like
- 10:35some
- 10:35big
- 10:36retaliation.
- 10:36But
- 10:36again,
- 10:37we
- 10:37don't
- 10:37know.
- 10:37We
- 10:38don't
- 10:38know
- 10:38what
- 10:38they're
- 10:38going
- 10:38to
- 10:38do
- 10:40and
- 10:40we'll
- 10:40find
- 10:40out
- 10:41soon
- 10:41enough.
- 10:41So
- 10:42that's
- 10:43what
- 10:43happened
- 10:44this
- 10:44week.
- 10:44One
- 10:45of
- 10:45the
- 10:45more
- 10:45interesting
- 10:45targets
- 10:46they
- 10:46hit
- 10:47was
- 10:48taking
- 10:48out
- 10:48a
- 10:48manufacturing
- 10:49facility,
- 10:49a
- 10:50ballistic
- 10:50missile
- 10:51site,
- 10:52and
- 10:52there
- 10:52was
- 10:52some
- 10:53discussion
- 10:54about
- 10:55maybe
- 10:56there
- 10:56was
- 10:56a
- 10:57drone
- 10:58facility,
- 10:59drone
- 10:59manufacturing
- 11:00facility
- 11:00might
- 11:00have
- 11:00been
- 11:00hit.
- 11:01I
- 11:01never
- 11:01heard
- 11:02any
- 11:02confirmation
- 11:03that
- 11:03they
- 11:03actually
- 11:04hit
- 11:05a
- 11:05drone
- 11:06manufacturing
- 11:07facility.
- 11:07I
- 11:08certainly
- 11:08was
- 11:08looking
- 11:09for
- 11:09that.
- 11:10That
- 11:10is
- 11:10one
- 11:10of
- 11:11the
- 11:11targets
- 11:11that
- 11:11I
- 11:11had
- 11:12speculated
- 11:13that
- 11:13they
- 11:14might
- 11:14look
- 11:14at
- 11:15that
- 11:15before,
- 11:16before
- 11:16the
- 11:16missions
- 11:16took
- 11:17place
- 11:17as
- 11:17a
- 11:18possible
- 11:18target
- 11:18set.
- 11:19But
- 11:20I
- 11:20did
- 11:20not
- 11:20see
- 11:20where
- 11:20they
- 11:20got
- 11:21hit.
- 11:21But
- 11:21they
- 11:21did
- 11:22confirm
- 11:22that
- 11:22they
- 11:22hit
- 11:22a
- 11:22ballistic
- 11:23missile.
- 11:23And
- 11:23they
- 11:24hit
- 11:24the
- 11:24missile
- 11:24site
- 11:25in
- 11:25such
- 11:25a
- 11:25way
- 11:26that
- 11:26went
- 11:27after
- 11:27basically
- 11:28the
- 11:28fuel
- 11:28system
- 11:29components,
- 11:29I
- 11:29should
- 11:30say
- 11:30tied
- 11:30to
- 11:31the
- 11:31fuel
- 11:31system
- 11:32components
- 11:32that
- 11:33they
- 11:33don't
- 11:33have
- 11:34organically
- 11:35in
- 11:36Iran.
- 11:36In
- 11:36other
- 11:36words,
- 11:37they
- 11:37don't
- 11:37produce
- 11:37those
- 11:37components
- 11:38in
- 11:38Iran.
- 11:39They
- 11:39have
- 11:40to
- 11:40import
- 11:40them.
- 11:41I
- 11:42believe
- 11:42they
- 11:42import
- 11:42them
- 11:42from
- 11:43China.
- 11:43And
- 11:45if
- 11:45you're
- 11:45familiar
- 11:46with
- 11:46the
- 11:46Carver
- 11:47analysis,
- 11:48Carver,
- 11:50it's
- 11:50a
- 11:50analysis
- 11:51used
- 11:51for
- 11:52critical
- 11:52infrastructure
- 11:52vulnerability.
- 11:53It's
- 11:53also
- 11:53used
- 11:54for
- 11:54targeting.
- 11:55It's
- 11:55a
- 11:55kind
- 11:55of
- 11:55a
- 11:55double
- 11:55edged
- 11:56sword
- 11:56thing.
- 11:56But
- 11:56if
- 11:56you're
- 11:57familiar
- 11:57with
- 11:57that
- 11:57and
- 11:57you're
- 11:57certainly
- 11:58welcome
- 11:58to
- 11:58look
- 11:58it
- 11:58up
- 11:59online.
- 12:00Carver,
- 12:01ironically,
- 12:02I
- 12:03always
- 12:03thought
- 12:03it
- 12:03was
- 12:03really
- 12:04amazing
- 12:04stuff.
- 12:05And
- 12:05then
- 12:05years
- 12:06later
- 12:06I
- 12:06was,
- 12:07I
- 12:07was
- 12:07somewhat,
- 12:08I
- 12:08don't
- 12:08know,
- 12:09disappointed
- 12:09to
- 12:09find
- 12:10out
- 12:10that
- 12:10the
- 12:10guy
- 12:10who
- 12:10developed
- 12:11the
- 12:11Carver
- 12:12acronym,
- 12:13his
- 12:13last
- 12:13name
- 12:14just
- 12:14happened
- 12:14to
- 12:14be
- 12:14Carver,
- 12:15which
- 12:15kind
- 12:15of
- 12:15always
- 12:16made
- 12:16me
- 12:16wonder,
- 12:17okay,
- 12:17what
- 12:18if
- 12:18his
- 12:18name
- 12:18was
- 12:18John
- 12:19Jacob
- 12:19Jingleheimer
- 12:19Schmidt,
- 12:20what
- 12:20would
- 12:20it
- 12:20have
- 12:21been
- 12:21then?
- 12:21But
- 12:21nonetheless,
- 12:22I,
- 12:22you
- 12:22know,
- 12:23I
- 12:23would
- 12:23say
- 12:23take
- 12:23a
- 12:23look
- 12:24at
- 12:24that.
- 12:24And
- 12:24it
- 12:24was
- 12:24kind
- 12:25of
- 12:25interesting
- 12:25that
- 12:25they
- 12:25hit
- 12:26that
- 12:26facility.
- 12:26I'm
- 12:27sure
- 12:27that
- 12:27was
- 12:27going
- 12:27after
- 12:28components
- 12:28that
- 12:29would
- 12:29take
- 12:29a
- 12:30long
- 12:30lead
- 12:31time
- 12:32to
- 12:32replace
- 12:33and
- 12:34that
- 12:34really
- 12:34slows
- 12:35down
- 12:36the
- 12:36ability
- 12:36of
- 12:36Iran
- 12:37to
- 12:37produce
- 12:37ballistic
- 12:38missiles
- 12:38that
- 12:38could
- 12:38be
- 12:39aimed
- 12:39at
- 12:39Israel.
- 12:39Also
- 12:40the
- 12:41ability
- 12:41of
- 12:41Iran
- 12:41to
- 12:41produce
- 12:42ballistic
- 12:42missiles
- 12:43that
- 12:43could
- 12:43potentially
- 12:44be
- 12:44shipped
- 12:44to
- 12:45Russia
- 12:45and
- 12:46that
- 12:46they
- 12:46might
- 12:46try
- 12:47to
- 12:47use
- 12:47those
- 12:47in
- 12:48fighting
- 12:48the
- 12:48Ukrainians.
- 12:49So
- 12:50there's
- 12:52a
- 12:52rather
- 12:52interesting
- 12:53message,
- 12:54strategic
- 12:54message
- 12:54across
- 12:55the
- 12:55board
- 12:56from
- 12:56taking
- 12:56out
- 12:57that
- 12:57particular
- 12:57set.
- 12:57So
- 12:58I
- 12:58thought
- 12:58that
- 12:58was
- 12:58kind
- 12:58of
- 12:59interesting
- 12:59that
- 13:00they
- 13:00did
- 13:00that.
- 13:01Now
- 13:01what
- 13:01were
- 13:02Israel's
- 13:03strategic
- 13:03goals
- 13:04in
- 13:04this
- 13:04thing?
- 13:04I'm
- 13:05sure
- 13:05a
- 13:05lot
- 13:05of
- 13:05people
- 13:05are
- 13:05kind
- 13:05of
- 13:06wondering,
- 13:06you
- 13:07know,
- 13:07what
- 13:07did
- 13:07they
- 13:07want
- 13:07to
- 13:08accomplish?
- 13:08Well,
- 13:08one
- 13:09of
- 13:09the
- 13:09first
- 13:09thoughts
- 13:09is,
- 13:10well,
- 13:10they'd
- 13:10like
- 13:10to
- 13:10see
- 13:10regime
- 13:11change.
- 13:11Honestly,
- 13:12I
- 13:12think
- 13:13every
- 13:13other
- 13:13country
- 13:14except
- 13:15for
- 13:15Syria
- 13:16in
- 13:17the
- 13:17Middle
- 13:17east
- 13:18would
- 13:18like
- 13:18to
- 13:18see
- 13:18regime
- 13:19change
- 13:20in
- 13:21Iran.
- 13:21I
- 13:21think
- 13:22everyone's
- 13:22had
- 13:22enough.
- 13:22Certainly
- 13:23Saudi
- 13:23Arabia,
- 13:24all
- 13:24the
- 13:24Gulf
- 13:24states
- 13:25have
- 13:26certainly
- 13:26had
- 13:26enough
- 13:27of
- 13:27this
- 13:29extremist
- 13:30theocratic
- 13:30autocratic
- 13:31regime
- 13:33that
- 13:33is,
- 13:34that's
- 13:35controlled
- 13:35Iran
- 13:36since
- 13:361979.
- 13:37They
- 13:37would
- 13:38certainly
- 13:38like
- 13:38to
- 13:38see
- 13:38it
- 13:38happen.
- 13:39To
- 13:40execute
- 13:41regime
- 13:41change
- 13:42would
- 13:42take
- 13:42a
- 13:42lot.
- 13:43And
- 13:44it's
- 13:44not
- 13:44something
- 13:44you're
- 13:44going
- 13:45to
- 13:45do
- 13:45on
- 13:45one
- 13:45overnight
- 13:46strike
- 13:46mission.
- 13:47That
- 13:47would
- 13:47be
- 13:48a
- 13:49series
- 13:49of
- 13:50strike
- 13:50missions
- 13:51over
- 13:51an
- 13:51extended
- 13:52period
- 13:52of
- 13:52time.
- 13:53And
- 13:54frankly
- 13:54it
- 13:54would
- 13:55be
- 13:55much
- 13:55more
- 13:55than
- 13:55that
- 13:56because
- 13:56you'd
- 13:57have
- 13:57to
- 13:57have,
- 13:57you
- 13:58know,
- 13:58things
- 13:58that
- 13:58you
- 13:58just
- 13:58don't
- 13:59have
- 13:59now,
- 13:59which
- 13:59is
- 14:00you'd
- 14:01probably
- 14:01have
- 14:01to
- 14:01have
- 14:02some
- 14:02sort
- 14:02of
- 14:02commando
- 14:03or
- 14:03a
- 14:03presence
- 14:04or
- 14:04something
- 14:04like
- 14:04that
- 14:05to
- 14:05go
- 14:05in
- 14:05there
- 14:06and
- 14:06actually
- 14:06do
- 14:06physical
- 14:06raids
- 14:07on
- 14:07the
- 14:07ground.
- 14:07And
- 14:08that's
- 14:08not
- 14:08something
- 14:08that
- 14:09obviously
- 14:09Israel
- 14:10was
- 14:10set
- 14:10up
- 14:10to
- 14:11do
- 14:11with
- 14:11this
- 14:11particular
- 14:12raid.
- 14:12The
- 14:12other
- 14:12thing
- 14:13you'd
- 14:13have
- 14:13to
- 14:13do
- 14:13is
- 14:14have
- 14:14a
- 14:14phenomenal
- 14:14clandestine
- 14:15or
- 14:16covert
- 14:16action
- 14:17program
- 14:18that
- 14:18would
- 14:18somehow
- 14:19mobilize
- 14:19Iranian
- 14:21personnel,
- 14:21Iranian
- 14:22citizens
- 14:23I
- 14:23should
- 14:23say
- 14:23to
- 14:23try
- 14:24and
- 14:24overthrow
- 14:24the
- 14:25government.
- 14:25And
- 14:25certainly
- 14:26with
- 14:27the
- 14:27crackdown
- 14:27from
- 14:27the
- 14:28last
- 14:28series
- 14:28of
- 14:28protests,
- 14:29even
- 14:29though
- 14:29this
- 14:29is
- 14:29a
- 14:30very,
- 14:30very
- 14:30unpopular
- 14:31regime,
- 14:32to
- 14:32say
- 14:32the
- 14:32least,
- 14:33I
- 14:33just
- 14:33don't
- 14:33see
- 14:33that
- 14:33manifesting
- 14:34itself
- 14:34in
- 14:35short
- 14:35order.
- 14:35That
- 14:35would
- 14:36be
- 14:36a
- 14:36very,
- 14:36that
- 14:36would
- 14:36be
- 14:36a
- 14:37tall
- 14:37thing
- 14:37to
- 14:37put
- 14:37out
- 14:37there.
- 14:37So
- 14:38that,
- 14:38so
- 14:38Israel's
- 14:38strategic
- 14:39goals
- 14:39was
- 14:40basically,
- 14:40from
- 14:40what
- 14:40I
- 14:41can
- 14:41tell,
- 14:41was
- 14:41to
- 14:42strike
- 14:42at
- 14:43those
- 14:43things
- 14:43that
- 14:43posed
- 14:44a
- 14:44direct
- 14:44threat
- 14:44to
- 14:45Israel.
- 14:45And
- 14:45in
- 14:46that
- 14:46regard,
- 14:47I
- 14:47think
- 14:47they
- 14:47largely
- 14:48accomplished
- 14:49what
- 14:49they
- 14:49set
- 14:49out
- 14:49to
- 14:50do.
- 14:50I
- 14:51mean,
- 14:51certainly
- 14:51they
- 14:51could
- 14:52hit
- 14:52some
- 14:52more
- 14:52targets.
- 14:53I
- 14:53can
- 14:53think
- 14:53of
- 14:53plenty
- 14:53of
- 14:53things
- 14:54they
- 14:54may
- 14:54want
- 14:55to
- 14:55hit,
- 14:55but.
- 14:56But
- 14:56I
- 14:56think
- 14:56they
- 14:56accomplished
- 14:57what
- 14:57they
- 14:57want
- 14:57to
- 14:58do
- 14:58with
- 14:58this
- 14:58one.
- 14:59The
- 14:59other
- 14:59thing
- 14:59is
- 15:00militarily,
- 15:01they
- 15:01can
- 15:01still
- 15:01have
- 15:01their
- 15:02hands
- 15:02kind
- 15:02of
- 15:02full
- 15:02with
- 15:03what's
- 15:03going
- 15:03on
- 15:04in
- 15:05southern
- 15:06Lebanon
- 15:06and
- 15:07Lebanon
- 15:07as
- 15:07a
- 15:07whole,
- 15:07dealing
- 15:08with
- 15:08Hezbollah.
- 15:09You
- 15:10know,
- 15:10they're
- 15:10still
- 15:10having
- 15:10to
- 15:10occasionally
- 15:11deal
- 15:11with
- 15:11things
- 15:11coming
- 15:11out
- 15:12of
- 15:12the
- 15:12Houthis
- 15:13down
- 15:13in
- 15:13Yemen.
- 15:14And
- 15:14of
- 15:14course
- 15:14they
- 15:14have
- 15:15the
- 15:15ongoing
- 15:16situation
- 15:17in
- 15:17the
- 15:18Gaza
- 15:18Strip
- 15:19and
- 15:19of
- 15:19course
- 15:20things
- 15:20in,
- 15:20in
- 15:21the
- 15:21West
- 15:21Bank.
- 15:21And
- 15:21it
- 15:22was
- 15:22interesting
- 15:22to
- 15:22hear
- 15:23Israel
- 15:23talk
- 15:23about
- 15:23this
- 15:24as
- 15:24a
- 15:24seven
- 15:25front
- 15:25war.
- 15:26And
- 15:26I
- 15:27actually
- 15:27had
- 15:27to
- 15:27do
- 15:27some
- 15:27math
- 15:28to
- 15:28go
- 15:28seven
- 15:28fronts,
- 15:29where
- 15:29they
- 15:29get
- 15:29seven
- 15:29fronts.
- 15:30And
- 15:30then
- 15:30I
- 15:31realized
- 15:31what
- 15:31they're
- 15:31talking
- 15:31about,
- 15:32you
- 15:32know,
- 15:32Syria,
- 15:32Iraq,
- 15:33Iran,
- 15:34and
- 15:34then
- 15:35they
- 15:35get
- 15:35into,
- 15:36you
- 15:36know,
- 15:36certainly
- 15:37Gaza,
- 15:37the
- 15:37West
- 15:38Bank,
- 15:38Lebanon,
- 15:40and
- 15:40then
- 15:40of
- 15:40course
- 15:40the
- 15:41Houthis
- 15:41down
- 15:41Yemen.
- 15:42Like,
- 15:42yeah,
- 15:42there
- 15:42you
- 15:42go.
- 15:42You
- 15:42got
- 15:43a
- 15:43seven
- 15:43front
- 15:43war
- 15:44literally
- 15:44spreading
- 15:45across
- 15:45the
- 15:45Middle
- 15:46east
- 15:46if
- 15:46you
- 15:46look
- 15:47at
- 15:47it.
- 15:47So
- 15:47it's
- 15:47a.
- 15:48They've
- 15:48got,
- 15:49let's
- 15:49just
- 15:49say
- 15:49they
- 15:49got
- 15:50a
- 15:50lot
- 15:50of
- 15:50things
- 15:50they
- 15:50have
- 15:51to
- 15:51take
- 15:51care
- 15:51of
- 15:51militarily
- 15:52without
- 15:52opening
- 15:53up
- 15:53this
- 15:53thing
- 15:54further.
- 15:54The
- 15:54other
- 15:55thing
- 15:55is
- 15:55their
- 15:56primary
- 15:56backer,
- 15:56the
- 15:57United
- 15:57States
- 15:59has
- 15:59been
- 15:59very
- 15:59clear
- 16:00since
- 16:00the
- 16:00outset
- 16:01that
- 16:01they
- 16:01did
- 16:01not
- 16:01want
- 16:01to
- 16:01see
- 16:02nuclear
- 16:02facilities
- 16:03targeted
- 16:04for
- 16:04a
- 16:04variety
- 16:04of
- 16:05reasons,
- 16:05not
- 16:05the
- 16:05least
- 16:06of
- 16:06which
- 16:06is
- 16:06they
- 16:06thought
- 16:07it
- 16:07could
- 16:07have
- 16:07the
- 16:07opposite
- 16:08effect.
- 16:09Instead
- 16:09of,
- 16:10you
- 16:10know,
- 16:11slowing
- 16:11down
- 16:12Iran's
- 16:12movement
- 16:13to
- 16:13creating
- 16:13a
- 16:14building
- 16:14a
- 16:14nuclear
- 16:15bomb,
- 16:15it
- 16:15could
- 16:16actually
- 16:16have
- 16:16the
- 16:16indirect
- 16:17effect
- 16:17of
- 16:17speeding
- 16:18up
- 16:18Iran's
- 16:19movement
- 16:19into
- 16:20trying
- 16:20to
- 16:20build
- 16:20a
- 16:21nuclear
- 16:21weapon.
- 16:21So
- 16:21that
- 16:22was
- 16:22a
- 16:22big
- 16:22fear
- 16:23that
- 16:23also
- 16:23the
- 16:24real
- 16:24world
- 16:24is
- 16:25some
- 16:25of
- 16:25those
- 16:25facilities
- 16:26are
- 16:26so
- 16:27deeply
- 16:28embedded
- 16:29underground,
- 16:30reinforced
- 16:31concrete,
- 16:32so
- 16:32tough
- 16:33to
- 16:33target
- 16:34that
- 16:34you
- 16:34could
- 16:34go
- 16:35in
- 16:35and
- 16:35hit
- 16:35them
- 16:35with
- 16:35strike
- 16:36missions
- 16:36and
- 16:36frankly,
- 16:37you
- 16:38wouldn't
- 16:38destroy
- 16:38them.
- 16:39You
- 16:39can,
- 16:40some
- 16:40things
- 16:40you
- 16:40could
- 16:40destroy,
- 16:41but
- 16:41there's
- 16:41a
- 16:41lot
- 16:42of
- 16:42things,
- 16:42certainly
- 16:43the
- 16:43most
- 16:43sensitive
- 16:43sites,
- 16:44the
- 16:44ones
- 16:44you
- 16:44really
- 16:44would
- 16:45like
- 16:45to
- 16:45take
- 16:45out,
- 16:46you
- 16:47probably
- 16:47wouldn't
- 16:47take
- 16:48out
- 16:48and
- 16:48again,
- 16:49that
- 16:49would
- 16:49be
- 16:49a
- 16:49big
- 16:50setback
- 16:50to
- 16:50hit
- 16:50them
- 16:51and
- 16:51then
- 16:52not
- 16:52have
- 16:52accomplished
- 16:53the
- 16:53mission.
- 16:53Just
- 16:53wasted
- 16:54ordnance
- 16:54destroying
- 16:55things
- 16:55around
- 16:55it,
- 16:55but
- 16:56not
- 16:56actually
- 16:56destroying
- 16:56the
- 16:57target
- 16:57sets
- 16:57themselves.
- 16:58So
- 16:58that,
- 16:59that's
- 16:59another
- 16:59thing.
- 16:59So
- 16:59the
- 17:00US
- 17:00Was
- 17:00opposed
- 17:00to
- 17:01that
- 17:01President
- 17:02Biden,
- 17:02and
- 17:02I
- 17:02don't
- 17:02know
- 17:02what
- 17:02he
- 17:03was
- 17:03thinking
- 17:03when
- 17:03he
- 17:03said
- 17:03this,
- 17:04but
- 17:04he
- 17:04did
- 17:05one
- 17:05day
- 17:05he
- 17:06talked
- 17:06about
- 17:06this,
- 17:06he
- 17:07said,
- 17:07well,
- 17:07maybe
- 17:07they
- 17:07could
- 17:07hit
- 17:08oil
- 17:08facilities
- 17:09like
- 17:09refineries
- 17:09or
- 17:09pipelines
- 17:10or
- 17:10something.
- 17:11I'm
- 17:11not
- 17:11quite
- 17:12sure
- 17:12what
- 17:12he
- 17:12was
- 17:12thinking
- 17:13when
- 17:13he
- 17:13said
- 17:13that.
- 17:13But
- 17:14literally
- 17:14the
- 17:14next
- 17:14day,
- 17:15global
- 17:15oil
- 17:16prices
- 17:16jumped
- 17:1610%.
- 17:17And
- 17:17the
- 17:18day
- 17:18after
- 17:18that,
- 17:18he
- 17:18immediately
- 17:19came
- 17:19back,
- 17:19said,
- 17:19no,
- 17:19no,
- 17:20no,
- 17:20I
- 17:20didn't
- 17:20mean
- 17:20that
- 17:20they're
- 17:21not
- 17:21supposed
- 17:21to.
- 17:21They
- 17:21should
- 17:22not
- 17:22hit
- 17:22oil
- 17:22facilities
- 17:23or
- 17:23pipelines
- 17:23or
- 17:23refineries
- 17:24and
- 17:24stuff
- 17:24like
- 17:24that.
- 17:25Oil
- 17:25prices
- 17:26started
- 17:26to
- 17:26come
- 17:26back
- 17:27down.
- 17:27And
- 17:27in
- 17:28this
- 17:28discussion,
- 17:29it,
- 17:30prior
- 17:30to
- 17:30the
- 17:30strikes,
- 17:31it
- 17:31was,
- 17:32it
- 17:32was
- 17:32announced
- 17:33that
- 17:33it
- 17:33had
- 17:33been
- 17:33agreed
- 17:34by
- 17:34the
- 17:34Israelis
- 17:34that
- 17:35they
- 17:35would
- 17:35not
- 17:35hit
- 17:35nuclear
- 17:36sites,
- 17:36nor
- 17:37would
- 17:37they
- 17:37hit
- 17:37oil
- 17:38pipelines,
- 17:39refineries,
- 17:39oil
- 17:40infrastructure
- 17:40as
- 17:41well.
- 17:42And
- 17:42so
- 17:42that
- 17:42appears
- 17:43to
- 17:43have
- 17:43been
- 17:43something
- 17:44that
- 17:44the
- 17:44US
- 17:44did
- 17:45not
- 17:45want
- 17:45to
- 17:45see
- 17:46hit,
- 17:47and
- 17:47the
- 17:47Israelis
- 17:48did
- 17:48not
- 17:48hit
- 17:48it.
- 17:49And
- 17:49I
- 17:49think
- 17:49the
- 17:49Israelis
- 17:50did
- 17:50that
- 17:50in
- 17:51order
- 17:51to
- 17:51pay
- 17:52some
- 17:52level
- 17:52of,
- 17:53of,
- 17:54I
- 17:55don't
- 17:55know
- 17:55if
- 17:55you
- 17:55want
- 17:55to
- 17:55say
- 17:55homage,
- 17:56but
- 17:56certainly
- 17:57some
- 17:57level
- 17:58of
- 17:58compliance
- 17:58with
- 17:59what
- 17:59the
- 17:59US
- 17:59wished
- 18:00to
- 18:01see
- 18:01with
- 18:01whatever
- 18:02Israel
- 18:02did.
- 18:03And
- 18:03so
- 18:03they
- 18:04did
- 18:04that.
- 18:04And
- 18:05I
- 18:05think
- 18:05that's
- 18:05kind
- 18:05of
- 18:06interesting
- 18:06to
- 18:06see
- 18:06that.
- 18:07Also,
- 18:07at
- 18:07the
- 18:07same
- 18:07time,
- 18:08the
- 18:08US
- 18:08is
- 18:08working
- 18:09on
- 18:09trying
- 18:09to
- 18:09get
- 18:09a
- 18:09ceasefire
- 18:10agreement
- 18:10in
- 18:10place
- 18:11in
- 18:11Gaza,
- 18:11is
- 18:12working
- 18:12on
- 18:12trying
- 18:12to
- 18:12get
- 18:12a
- 18:12ceasefire
- 18:13in
- 18:13place
- 18:15in
- 18:15Lebanon.
- 18:16So
- 18:16there's
- 18:16a
- 18:17lot
- 18:17of
- 18:17other
- 18:17externalities
- 18:18that
- 18:18the
- 18:19US
- 18:19is
- 18:19working
- 18:19on
- 18:20that
- 18:20would
- 18:20have
- 18:21been
- 18:21completely
- 18:21upended
- 18:22if
- 18:23Israel
- 18:23had
- 18:23gone
- 18:24into
- 18:24a
- 18:24big
- 18:25escalatory
- 18:26war,
- 18:27if
- 18:27you
- 18:27will,
- 18:27with
- 18:27Iran.
- 18:28And
- 18:29the
- 18:29reality
- 18:29is
- 18:29Iran
- 18:30does
- 18:30not
- 18:30want
- 18:30to
- 18:30go
- 18:30to
- 18:31war
- 18:31with
- 18:31Israel
- 18:31because
- 18:32at
- 18:32the
- 18:32end
- 18:32of
- 18:32the
- 18:32day,
- 18:32Iran
- 18:33cannot
- 18:33win
- 18:34a
- 18:34war
- 18:35against
- 18:35Israel.
- 18:36And
- 18:36the
- 18:36regime
- 18:36knows
- 18:36that.
- 18:37So
- 18:37the
- 18:37regime
- 18:38has
- 18:38done
- 18:38what
- 18:39they
- 18:39traditionally
- 18:40have
- 18:40done,
- 18:41which
- 18:41is
- 18:42they
- 18:42have
- 18:42focused
- 18:43on
- 18:43regime
- 18:43survival,
- 18:44which
- 18:44is
- 18:45live
- 18:45to
- 18:45fight
- 18:45another
- 18:46day.
- 18:46And
- 18:46so
- 18:47there's
- 18:47a
- 18:47lot
- 18:47of
- 18:47reason
- 18:47to
- 18:47believe
- 18:48that
- 18:48there
- 18:49really
- 18:49won't
- 18:49be
- 18:49much
- 18:50of
- 18:50a
- 18:50retaliation
- 18:51or
- 18:51response
- 18:52to
- 18:52what
- 18:52Israel
- 18:52just
- 18:53did.
- 18:53Although
- 18:56I
- 18:56don't
- 18:57want
- 18:57to
- 18:58second
- 18:58guess
- 19:00Ayatollah
- 19:00Khomeini's
- 19:01ability
- 19:02to
- 19:03never
- 19:03miss
- 19:03an
- 19:03opportunity.
- 19:04To
- 19:04miss
- 19:04an
- 19:05opportunity.
- 19:05And
- 19:06frankly,
- 19:06what
- 19:06I
- 19:06understand
- 19:07is
- 19:07that
- 19:07Khomeini
- 19:08overrode
- 19:10a
- 19:10number
- 19:10of
- 19:11his.
- 19:11Overrode
- 19:12the
- 19:12present
- 19:13of
- 19:13Iran
- 19:14and
- 19:14a
- 19:14number
- 19:14of
- 19:14other
- 19:15Senior
- 19:16officials
- 19:16there
- 19:16who
- 19:17said
- 19:18don't
- 19:18do
- 19:18the
- 19:18October
- 19:191st
- 19:20strike.
- 19:20And
- 19:21he
- 19:21decided
- 19:21to
- 19:21do
- 19:21it
- 19:21anyway.
- 19:22And
- 19:22so
- 19:22whatever's
- 19:23happened,
- 19:24he
- 19:24kind
- 19:25of
- 19:25brought
- 19:25that
- 19:25on
- 19:25himself.
- 19:26Whether
- 19:26that
- 19:26will
- 19:26cause
- 19:27him
- 19:27internal
- 19:28political
- 19:28damage
- 19:29yet
- 19:30to
- 19:30be
- 19:30seen,
- 19:31I
- 19:31don't
- 19:31know.
- 19:32Now,
- 19:33the
- 19:33Israeli
- 19:34Defense
- 19:34Forces
- 19:35have
- 19:35said
- 19:35that
- 19:35this
- 19:36phase,
- 19:36this
- 19:37particular
- 19:37mission
- 19:38is
- 19:38complete.
- 19:39They're
- 19:39not
- 19:40looking
- 19:40at
- 19:40doing
- 19:40anything
- 19:41more.
- 19:41They
- 19:41have
- 19:41nothing.
- 19:42I'm
- 19:43sure
- 19:43they
- 19:43have
- 19:43stuff
- 19:44planned,
- 19:44but
- 19:45they're
- 19:45not
- 19:45saying
- 19:45that.
- 19:46They're,
- 19:46they're
- 19:46saying
- 19:46that
- 19:47this
- 19:47chapter
- 19:47is
- 19:47kind
- 19:47of
- 19:48closed.
- 19:49And
- 19:50although
- 19:50they
- 19:51say
- 19:51Israel
- 19:51is
- 19:51ready
- 19:51to
- 19:52respond,
- 19:52they've
- 19:52degraded
- 19:53Iranian
- 19:54air
- 19:54defenses
- 19:54to
- 19:54a
- 19:55great
- 19:55degree.
- 19:56Iran
- 19:56certainly
- 19:57has
- 19:57to
- 19:57recognize
- 19:58its
- 19:58vulnerability
- 19:58there.
- 19:59Iran
- 20:00has
- 20:00threatened
- 20:01to
- 20:01retaliate,
- 20:02but
- 20:02at
- 20:02the
- 20:02same
- 20:03time
- 20:04they're
- 20:04also
- 20:05saying
- 20:05publicly
- 20:06that
- 20:06the
- 20:06damage
- 20:07was
- 20:07inconsequential.
- 20:08It
- 20:08really
- 20:09didn't
- 20:09add
- 20:09up
- 20:09to
- 20:09much.
- 20:10And
- 20:11this
- 20:11is
- 20:11the
- 20:11type
- 20:11of
- 20:12language
- 20:13that
- 20:13you
- 20:13would
- 20:13hear
- 20:14from
- 20:14a
- 20:14country
- 20:15if
- 20:15they
- 20:15were
- 20:15trying
- 20:15to
- 20:16find
- 20:16some
- 20:16graceful
- 20:17face
- 20:18saving
- 20:18way
- 20:19of
- 20:19avoiding
- 20:20any
- 20:21big
- 20:21retaliation.
- 20:22So
- 20:23again,
- 20:23there's
- 20:23a
- 20:23lot
- 20:24to
- 20:24look
- 20:24at
- 20:24here
- 20:24which
- 20:25indicates
- 20:25that
- 20:25Iran
- 20:26may
- 20:26not
- 20:26do
- 20:27a
- 20:27big
- 20:27retaliatory
- 20:28strike.
- 20:29Now
- 20:29some
- 20:29other
- 20:30stuff
- 20:30that's
- 20:30going
- 20:31on
- 20:31in
- 20:31the
- 20:31news,
- 20:31the
- 20:32war
- 20:32in
- 20:32Ukraine
- 20:33cooking
- 20:33right
- 20:33along.
- 20:34The
- 20:34Russians
- 20:34are
- 20:34taking
- 20:35phenomenal
- 20:36losses,
- 20:37although
- 20:37they
- 20:37are
- 20:37making
- 20:38some
- 20:38small
- 20:38marginal
- 20:39gains
- 20:39in
- 20:40the
- 20:40eastern
- 20:40front,
- 20:41securing
- 20:41various
- 20:42small
- 20:42towns
- 20:43and
- 20:43villages
- 20:43incrementally.
- 20:45The
- 20:45Iranians
- 20:45are,
- 20:46I
- 20:46got
- 20:46to
- 20:46tell
- 20:46you,
- 20:47the
- 20:47Iranians
- 20:47have
- 20:48quite
- 20:48a
- 20:48bit
- 20:48of
- 20:48arms,
- 20:49not
- 20:49as
- 20:49much
- 20:49as
- 20:49they
- 20:50need.
- 20:50They
- 20:50could
- 20:50certainly
- 20:51use
- 20:51more
- 20:51of
- 20:51everything
- 20:52to
- 20:52include,
- 20:53especially
- 20:54artillery.
- 20:55The
- 20:55Iranians
- 20:55also
- 20:56need
- 20:56manpower.
- 20:57That
- 20:57is
- 20:57also
- 20:58a
- 20:58big
- 20:58problem.
- 20:59But
- 21:00the
- 21:00Russians
- 21:01need
- 21:01manpower.
- 21:03And
- 21:03something
- 21:03that
- 21:04popped
- 21:04up
- 21:04a
- 21:05couple,
- 21:05couple,
- 21:06three
- 21:06weeks
- 21:06ago
- 21:07was
- 21:07that
- 21:08they
- 21:08were
- 21:08using
- 21:09their
- 21:09strategic
- 21:11forces
- 21:12personnel.
- 21:13This
- 21:14is
- 21:14like
- 21:14their
- 21:14version
- 21:15of
- 21:16air
- 21:16force
- 21:18or
- 21:19space
- 21:19force
- 21:20personnel,
- 21:21highly
- 21:21trained
- 21:22operators
- 21:23doing
- 21:23things,
- 21:24working
- 21:24in
- 21:24like
- 21:24ballistic
- 21:25missiles
- 21:25and
- 21:26aircraft
- 21:26and
- 21:27stuff
- 21:27like
- 21:27that,
- 21:27bombers
- 21:28and
- 21:29using
- 21:29them
- 21:29as
- 21:29line
- 21:30infantry.
- 21:31And
- 21:31you
- 21:31don't
- 21:32do
- 21:32something
- 21:32like
- 21:33that
- 21:33unless
- 21:33you
- 21:34are
- 21:34absolutely
- 21:35desperate.
- 21:35I
- 21:35mean,
- 21:36even
- 21:37in
- 21:37a
- 21:37very
- 21:37tactical
- 21:38environment,
- 21:38when
- 21:38you,
- 21:39when
- 21:39you
- 21:39pull
- 21:40the,
- 21:41all
- 21:41the
- 21:41support
- 21:42personnel,
- 21:42you
- 21:43know,
- 21:43the
- 21:44cooks,
- 21:45the
- 21:45administrative
- 21:46clerks,
- 21:47the
- 21:47motor
- 21:48pool
- 21:48personnel
- 21:49and
- 21:49everything,
- 21:49and
- 21:49you
- 21:49put
- 21:49them
- 21:50on
- 21:50the
- 21:50line
- 21:51to
- 21:51fight.
- 21:51That's
- 21:52because
- 21:52you're
- 21:52in
- 21:52a
- 21:54last
- 21:54ditch
- 21:55effort
- 21:55and
- 21:55you're
- 21:56afraid
- 21:56that
- 21:56your
- 21:56lines
- 21:57are
- 21:57going
- 21:57to
- 21:57get
- 21:57overrun.
- 21:58Well,
- 21:58the
- 21:59Russians
- 21:59aren't
- 21:59quite
- 22:00there,
- 22:00but
- 22:00they
- 22:01are
- 22:01so
- 22:01short
- 22:01of
- 22:02personnel
- 22:02that
- 22:02they're
- 22:02doing
- 22:03this.
- 22:03And
- 22:03one
- 22:03of
- 22:03the
- 22:03problems
- 22:03the
- 22:04Russians
- 22:04have,
- 22:04and
- 22:04this
- 22:04is
- 22:05a
- 22:05problem
- 22:05that
- 22:05Putin
- 22:05has
- 22:06personally
- 22:07is
- 22:07he
- 22:07has
- 22:07sold
- 22:08this
- 22:08war
- 22:09as
- 22:09this,
- 22:09you
- 22:09know,
- 22:10special
- 22:11military
- 22:12operation.
- 22:13Or
- 22:13whatever
- 22:13it
- 22:13is
- 22:14that
- 22:14he
- 22:14sells
- 22:14it
- 22:14as,
- 22:15but
- 22:15he
- 22:15doesn't,
- 22:16he
- 22:16didn't
- 22:16like
- 22:16it
- 22:16for
- 22:17a
- 22:17long
- 22:17time.
- 22:17And
- 22:18there's
- 22:18been
- 22:18some
- 22:18times
- 22:19where
- 22:19they
- 22:19have
- 22:19called
- 22:19it
- 22:19an
- 22:20outright
- 22:20war.
- 22:21They
- 22:21have
- 22:21tried
- 22:21to
- 22:22avoid
- 22:22calling
- 22:22it
- 22:22a
- 22:23war
- 22:23to
- 22:23try
- 22:23and
- 22:24placate
- 22:26those
- 22:27urban
- 22:27populations
- 22:28around
- 22:28major
- 22:29centers
- 22:29like
- 22:30Moscow
- 22:31and
- 22:31St.
- 22:31Petersburg
- 22:33that
- 22:33potentially
- 22:34could
- 22:34pose
- 22:34a
- 22:35regime
- 22:35threat
- 22:36should
- 22:36they
- 22:36become
- 22:37enervated
- 22:38to
- 22:38go
- 22:38out
- 22:38there
- 22:39and,
- 22:40you
- 22:40know,
- 22:40try
- 22:40and
- 22:41overthrow
- 22:42Putin's
- 22:43government,
- 22:43you
- 22:43know,
- 22:43go
- 22:43to
- 22:43the
- 22:44streets
- 22:44and
- 22:44do
- 22:44things
- 22:44like
- 22:45they
- 22:45saw
- 22:45in
- 22:451989
- 22:46or
- 22:46something
- 22:47like
- 22:47that.
- 22:47So,
- 22:48or
- 22:48not
- 22:491999,
- 22:49but
- 22:501990,
- 22:50well,
- 22:501989,
- 22:511991
- 22:51and
- 22:52eventually,
- 22:52of
- 22:52course,
- 22:52they
- 22:53were
- 22:53successful
- 22:54in
- 22:55overthrowing
- 22:55the
- 22:55Soviet
- 22:56Union.
- 22:56So
- 22:56he's
- 22:56very
- 22:57afraid
- 22:58of
- 22:58something
- 22:58like
- 22:58that.
- 22:59So
- 22:59he
- 22:59doesn't
- 22:59do
- 23:00this
- 23:00mass
- 23:02mobilization,
- 23:03if
- 23:03you
- 23:03will,
- 23:04bring
- 23:04in
- 23:04lots
- 23:04of
- 23:05troops.
- 23:05So
- 23:05he's
- 23:05trying
- 23:05to
- 23:06basically
- 23:06do
- 23:07stuff
- 23:07internally
- 23:08despite
- 23:09the
- 23:09long
- 23:09term
- 23:10consequences
- 23:10this
- 23:11has
- 23:11to
- 23:11Russia
- 23:12and
- 23:12it's,
- 23:13and
- 23:13Russia's
- 23:14defense
- 23:15complex,
- 23:15if
- 23:15you
- 23:15will.
- 23:16And
- 23:16of
- 23:16course,
- 23:17one
- 23:17of
- 23:17the
- 23:17things
- 23:18that
- 23:18happened,
- 23:18we
- 23:18started
- 23:19seeing
- 23:19about
- 23:19over
- 23:19a
- 23:19week
- 23:20ago
- 23:20was
- 23:20that
- 23:20North
- 23:21Korean
- 23:21troops
- 23:22were
- 23:22going
- 23:23into
- 23:23Russia
- 23:24and
- 23:24they
- 23:24were
- 23:24training
- 23:25in
- 23:25the,
- 23:26in
- 23:26the
- 23:26far
- 23:26east
- 23:26around
- 23:27places
- 23:27like
- 23:27Vladivostok.
- 23:29Well,
- 23:29those
- 23:30North
- 23:30Korean
- 23:30troops
- 23:31have
- 23:31shown
- 23:31up
- 23:32on
- 23:32the
- 23:32border
- 23:32with
- 23:32Ukraine.
- 23:34Ostensibly,
- 23:35everything
- 23:35I've
- 23:36seen
- 23:36sounds
- 23:36like
- 23:37they're
- 23:37in
- 23:37the
- 23:37Kursk
- 23:37Oblast.
- 23:38And
- 23:39that's
- 23:39the
- 23:39Kursk
- 23:39oblast
- 23:40or
- 23:40province
- 23:41is
- 23:42where
- 23:42the
- 23:42Ukrainians
- 23:43had
- 23:43actually
- 23:43made
- 23:43that
- 23:44incursion
- 23:44into
- 23:45Russian
- 23:45territory.
- 23:46So
- 23:47initially
- 23:47it
- 23:47appears
- 23:48that
- 23:48they're
- 23:48going
- 23:48to
- 23:48use
- 23:48the
- 23:49North
- 23:49Korean
- 23:50troops
- 23:51kind
- 23:51of
- 23:51like
- 23:51cannon
- 23:52fodder
- 23:53to
- 23:53fight
- 23:53the
- 23:53Ukrainians
- 23:54on
- 23:54Russian
- 23:55territory.
- 23:56And
- 23:56when
- 23:56it
- 23:56said
- 23:57Canafoder,
- 23:58there's
- 23:59a
- 23:59lot
- 23:59of
- 23:59assessments
- 24:00out
- 24:00there
- 24:00that
- 24:01these
- 24:01troops
- 24:01are
- 24:01in
- 24:02a
- 24:02lot
- 24:02of
- 24:02trouble.
- 24:02Now.
- 24:02They
- 24:02sense
- 24:03the
- 24:03special
- 24:03Operations,
- 24:04the
- 24:04Special
- 24:04forces
- 24:05the
- 24:06North
- 24:06Koreans
- 24:06did,
- 24:07those
- 24:08are
- 24:08far
- 24:08better
- 24:09trained,
- 24:09far
- 24:09better
- 24:10disciplined,
- 24:11and
- 24:11they
- 24:12potentially
- 24:13could
- 24:13cause
- 24:14quite
- 24:14a
- 24:14bit
- 24:14of
- 24:14havoc
- 24:15in
- 24:15the
- 24:15rear
- 24:16areas
- 24:16of
- 24:16the
- 24:16Ukrainian
- 24:18forces.
- 24:18And
- 24:19they're
- 24:19very
- 24:19much
- 24:19motivated,
- 24:20they're
- 24:21far,
- 24:22far
- 24:22more
- 24:22disciplined.
- 24:23Regular
- 24:24North
- 24:24Korean
- 24:25troops
- 24:26are
- 24:26malnourished,
- 24:27they're
- 24:28poorly
- 24:28trained,
- 24:29poorly
- 24:29equipped.
- 24:29One
- 24:30of
- 24:30the
- 24:30things
- 24:30the
- 24:30Russians
- 24:31have
- 24:31to
- 24:31do
- 24:31with
- 24:31all
- 24:31the
- 24:31North
- 24:32Korean
- 24:32troops
- 24:33is
- 24:33they
- 24:33issued
- 24:33them
- 24:34Russian
- 24:34uniforms,
- 24:35Russian
- 24:36equipment,
- 24:37they
- 24:37put
- 24:37them
- 24:38through
- 24:38some
- 24:38rudimentary
- 24:39tactical
- 24:40training.
- 24:41And
- 24:42when
- 24:42you
- 24:42look
- 24:42at
- 24:42the
- 24:43abbreviated
- 24:44time
- 24:44frame
- 24:44of
- 24:45that
- 24:45training,
- 24:46you
- 24:46have
- 24:46to
- 24:47assume
- 24:47from
- 24:48that
- 24:48that
- 24:48apparently
- 24:49North
- 24:49Korean
- 24:49troops
- 24:49were
- 24:50not
- 24:50very
- 24:50well
- 24:50trained
- 24:51at
- 24:51all,
- 24:51that
- 24:52they
- 24:52had
- 24:52to
- 24:52get
- 24:52some
- 24:52sort
- 24:53of
- 24:53tactical
- 24:53training
- 24:54for
- 24:54a
- 24:54week
- 24:54or
- 24:54two
- 24:55weeks
- 24:55and
- 24:55then
- 24:55they're
- 24:55sent
- 24:56straight
- 24:56to
- 24:56the
- 24:56Front.
- 24:57And
- 24:58so
- 24:58there's
- 24:58a
- 24:58very,
- 24:59very
- 24:59high
- 25:00likelihood
- 25:00that
- 25:01you
- 25:01could
- 25:01see
- 25:02these
- 25:02North
- 25:02Korean
- 25:03troops
- 25:04suffer
- 25:05extremely
- 25:06high
- 25:06attrition
- 25:07at
- 25:07the
- 25:08hands
- 25:08of
- 25:09what
- 25:09are
- 25:09truly
- 25:09battle
- 25:10hardened
- 25:10Ukrainian
- 25:11troops
- 25:12out
- 25:12there.
- 25:13But
- 25:13for
- 25:13Putin,
- 25:14I
- 25:14don't
- 25:14think
- 25:14he
- 25:14cares
- 25:15for
- 25:15Kim
- 25:15Jong
- 25:15Un,
- 25:16the
- 25:17dictator
- 25:17of
- 25:18North
- 25:18Korea,
- 25:18I
- 25:18don't
- 25:19think
- 25:19he
- 25:19cares
- 25:20about
- 25:21throwing
- 25:21these
- 25:22troops
- 25:22into
- 25:23a
- 25:23meat
- 25:23grinder
- 25:24and
- 25:25they
- 25:26never
- 25:26come
- 25:26back.
- 25:27I
- 25:27don't
- 25:27think
- 25:27either
- 25:28of
- 25:28them
- 25:28really
- 25:28care.
- 25:29Certainly
- 25:29Kim
- 25:30Jong
- 25:30Un's
- 25:31sees
- 25:31as
- 25:31a
- 25:31necessary
- 25:32sacrifice
- 25:32to
- 25:32get
- 25:33something
- 25:33in
- 25:33return
- 25:33from
- 25:34Russia,
- 25:35maybe
- 25:35technology,
- 25:36weapons,
- 25:36things
- 25:36like
- 25:37that.
- 25:37And
- 25:38certainly
- 25:38for
- 25:39Russia,
- 25:39they
- 25:39just
- 25:40see
- 25:40it
- 25:40as
- 25:40a
- 25:40way
- 25:40of
- 25:40avoiding
- 25:41a
- 25:42mobilization
- 25:42that
- 25:43could
- 25:43undermine
- 25:44Putin's
- 25:45support
- 25:45in
- 25:45these
- 25:46major
- 25:46urban
- 25:46areas.
- 25:46So
- 25:47that's,
- 25:47that's
- 25:48some
- 25:48of
- 25:48the
- 25:48stuff
- 25:48that's
- 25:48going
- 25:49on
- 25:49there.
- 25:50There's
- 25:51a
- 25:51lot
- 25:51more
- 25:51in
- 25:51the
- 25:52news
- 25:53happening
- 25:53across
- 25:54the
- 25:54board.
- 25:55Dark
- 25:55tankers,
- 25:56Russian
- 25:56tankers
- 25:57that
- 25:57are
- 25:58old,
- 25:59under,
- 25:59under
- 26:00third
- 26:00country
- 26:01flag
- 26:02are
- 26:02traversing
- 26:03some
- 26:04of
- 26:04the
- 26:04tightest
- 26:04waterways
- 26:05in
- 26:05the
- 26:05world
- 26:05without
- 26:06turning
- 26:06on
- 26:06their
- 26:06AIs
- 26:07identification
- 26:08system
- 26:09and
- 26:10causing,
- 26:10you
- 26:11know,
- 26:11potentially
- 26:12extreme
- 26:13danger
- 26:14and
- 26:14potentially
- 26:15a
- 26:15horrendous
- 26:16environmental
- 26:16disaster,
- 26:18especially
- 26:18as
- 26:18they
- 26:19operate
- 26:19in
- 26:19places
- 26:20in
- 26:20the,
- 26:20in
- 26:20the
- 26:21very
- 26:21closed
- 26:21waters
- 26:21of
- 26:21the
- 26:22Baltic,
- 26:23the
- 26:23very
- 26:23confined
- 26:24waters
- 26:24of
- 26:24the
- 26:24Danish
- 26:25Straits.
- 26:26And
- 26:26we're
- 26:26seeing
- 26:27that
- 26:27all
- 26:27over
- 26:27the
- 26:28place.
- 26:28And
- 26:28that
- 26:28is
- 26:28getting
- 26:29a
- 26:29lot
- 26:29more
- 26:29attention
- 26:30this
- 26:31week.
- 26:31And
- 26:31then
- 26:31the
- 26:31head
- 26:31of
- 26:32MI5
- 26:33had
- 26:33talked
- 26:34about
- 26:34publicly
- 26:35that
- 26:36the
- 26:36Russians
- 26:36are
- 26:36doing
- 26:37sabotage
- 26:38and
- 26:38things
- 26:38to
- 26:39undermine
- 26:39what's
- 26:40going
- 26:40on
- 26:40in
- 26:40Great
- 26:40Britain
- 26:41and
- 26:42basically
- 26:42talking
- 26:42what
- 26:43we
- 26:43describe
- 26:43as
- 26:44hybrid
- 26:44warfare,
- 26:45that
- 26:46sort
- 26:46of
- 26:46gray
- 26:46zone
- 26:47activity.
- 26:47It's
- 26:47not
- 26:48outright
- 26:48hostilities,
- 26:49but
- 26:50it
- 26:50does
- 26:50seem
- 26:51a
- 26:51lot
- 26:51like
- 26:51what,
- 26:52you
- 26:52know,
- 26:53certainly
- 26:53what
- 26:53we
- 26:53saw
- 26:53in
- 26:54World
- 26:54War
- 26:54II
- 26:54with
- 26:55the
- 26:55special
- 26:55Operations
- 26:56Executive
- 26:56and
- 26:57the
- 26:57Office
- 26:57of
- 26:57Strategic
- 26:58Services.
- 26:59You
- 26:59know,
- 26:59they
- 26:59would
- 26:59see
- 27:00themselves
- 27:00as
- 27:00going
- 27:01behind
- 27:01enemy
- 27:01lines
- 27:02and
- 27:02engaging
- 27:02in
- 27:03all
- 27:03sorts
- 27:03of
- 27:03stuff.
- 27:04And
- 27:04in
- 27:04more
- 27:05and
- 27:05more
- 27:05cases,
- 27:06we're
- 27:06finding
- 27:06that
- 27:06they
- 27:07actually
- 27:07hired
- 27:08criminals,
- 27:09basically
- 27:09hire
- 27:09a
- 27:10saboteur,
- 27:10if
- 27:10you
- 27:11will.
- 27:11They
- 27:11pay
- 27:12criminals
- 27:12to
- 27:12go
- 27:12and
- 27:13do
- 27:13some
- 27:13of
- 27:13these
- 27:13attacks
- 27:13on
- 27:14their
- 27:14behalf.
- 27:14So
- 27:15just
- 27:15a
- 27:15lot
- 27:16of
- 27:16things
- 27:16happening
- 27:17across
- 27:17the
- 27:17board.
- 27:17And
- 27:17then
- 27:18here
- 27:18in
- 27:18the
- 27:18US
- 27:19one
- 27:19of
- 27:19the
- 27:19more
- 27:20dynamic
- 27:20things,
- 27:20and
- 27:20I'll
- 27:21probably
- 27:21spend
- 27:21more
- 27:21time
- 27:22on
- 27:22this,
- 27:22maybe
- 27:22next
- 27:23weekend
- 27:23or
- 27:24next
- 27:24week
- 27:25when
- 27:25I,
- 27:25when
- 27:25I
- 27:25do
- 27:25my
- 27:26podcast,
- 27:27and
- 27:27that
- 27:27is
- 27:28Chinese,
- 27:29Iranian
- 27:30and
- 27:31Russian
- 27:32interference
- 27:33with
- 27:33the
- 27:34U.S.
- 27:34election.
- 27:35And
- 27:36it
- 27:36is,
- 27:36it
- 27:36is
- 27:37rather
- 27:37fascinating.
- 27:37All
- 27:38sorts
- 27:38of
- 27:38things,
- 27:38you
- 27:38know,
- 27:39certainly
- 27:39using
- 27:39AI,
- 27:41deep
- 27:41fakes,
- 27:42fake
- 27:42email
- 27:43addresses,
- 27:44all
- 27:44the
- 27:44things
- 27:44that
- 27:45they
- 27:45do
- 27:45to
- 27:45rev
- 27:46things
- 27:46up,
- 27:47to
- 27:47cause
- 27:48a
- 27:48viral,
- 27:49putting
- 27:49out
- 27:49a
- 27:50false
- 27:50information
- 27:51or,
- 27:52you
- 27:52know,
- 27:53fake
- 27:53news,
- 27:53if
- 27:54you
- 27:54will,
- 27:54across
- 27:54the
- 27:55board.
- 27:55And
- 27:55certainly
- 27:56all
- 27:56Those
- 27:56tricks
- 27:57of
- 27:57the
- 27:57trade
- 27:58that
- 27:58go
- 27:59back
- 27:59way
- 27:59back
- 27:59when.
- 27:59They're
- 27:59much,
- 28:00much
- 28:00more
- 28:00sophisticated
- 28:01than
- 28:01they
- 28:01ever
- 28:01were.
- 28:02Certainly
- 28:02much,
- 28:02much
- 28:02more
- 28:03sophisticated
- 28:03than
- 28:03they
- 28:03were,
- 28:04say
- 28:04back
- 28:04in
- 28:042015
- 28:05and
- 28:0616
- 28:06when
- 28:07this
- 28:07first
- 28:07came
- 28:07to
- 28:07public
- 28:08notice.
- 28:08But
- 28:09one
- 28:09of
- 28:09the
- 28:09things
- 28:09I
- 28:09would
- 28:10point
- 28:10out
- 28:10with
- 28:10this
- 28:11is
- 28:12Russia
- 28:12and
- 28:13Iran
- 28:14would
- 28:14very
- 28:14much
- 28:15like
- 28:15to.
- 28:15Or
- 28:16Russia,
- 28:16Russia
- 28:17and
- 28:17Iran
- 28:17would
- 28:18very.
- 28:18Well,
- 28:19Russia,
- 28:19I
- 28:19should
- 28:20say,
- 28:21would
- 28:21very
- 28:21much
- 28:22like
- 28:22to
- 28:22see
- 28:22Trump
- 28:23reelected.
- 28:24It's
- 28:24not
- 28:24a
- 28:25political
- 28:25opinion.
- 28:25That's
- 28:26just
- 28:26what
- 28:26everything's
- 28:27reporting
- 28:27is
- 28:27that
- 28:28they've
- 28:28been
- 28:28doing
- 28:28stuff
- 28:29that
- 28:29supports
- 28:30Trump.
- 28:30Ironically,
- 28:31Iran
- 28:32and
- 28:33China
- 28:34do
- 28:34not
- 28:34want
- 28:34to
- 28:35see
- 28:35Trump
- 28:35get
- 28:35elected.
- 28:36So
- 28:37they've
- 28:37been
- 28:37doing
- 28:38all
- 28:38this
- 28:38covert
- 28:38activity
- 28:39to
- 28:40try
- 28:40and
- 28:40stop
- 28:40Trump
- 28:41from
- 28:41getting
- 28:41elected.
- 28:41They've
- 28:41been
- 28:42actually
- 28:42kind
- 28:42of
- 28:43trying
- 28:43to
- 28:43subtly
- 28:44push
- 28:44Harris
- 28:45and
- 28:45waltz
- 28:46in
- 28:46getting
- 28:47elected
- 28:47for
- 28:48president.
- 28:48And
- 28:48I
- 28:48just
- 28:49find
- 28:49it
- 28:49fascinating
- 28:49because
- 28:50as
- 28:50you
- 28:50know,
- 28:50Russia
- 28:51and
- 28:51Russia
- 28:52and
- 28:52Iran
- 28:52are
- 28:53close
- 28:54allies
- 28:55meeting
- 28:55all
- 28:55the
- 28:55time,
- 28:56you
- 28:56know,
- 28:56lots
- 28:56of
- 28:57support
- 28:57back
- 28:57and
- 28:57forth.
- 28:58Russia
- 28:59and
- 28:59China
- 29:00have
- 29:00a
- 29:00relationship
- 29:00or
- 29:01friendship
- 29:01that
- 29:01knows
- 29:01no
- 29:02bounds
- 29:02or
- 29:02whatever.
- 29:03And
- 29:04yet
- 29:04if
- 29:04you
- 29:04look
- 29:04at
- 29:05why
- 29:05they're
- 29:05doing
- 29:05what
- 29:05they're
- 29:06doing,
- 29:06it's
- 29:06to
- 29:06oppose
- 29:06the
- 29:07West.
- 29:07The
- 29:07center
- 29:07of
- 29:07the
- 29:08west
- 29:08that
- 29:08they're
- 29:08trying
- 29:08to
- 29:09oppose
- 29:10is
- 29:10the
- 29:10United
- 29:11States.
- 29:12And
- 29:12they're
- 29:12trying
- 29:12to
- 29:12do
- 29:13all
- 29:13this
- 29:13underhanded
- 29:14subterfuge
- 29:15stuff
- 29:15to
- 29:16do
- 29:16this.
- 29:17Yet
- 29:17they
- 29:17are
- 29:17operating
- 29:18in
- 29:18completely
- 29:19opposite
- 29:19directions
- 29:20in
- 29:21terms
- 29:21of
- 29:21what
- 29:21they're
- 29:21doing.
- 29:22And
- 29:22I
- 29:22just
- 29:22find
- 29:22this
- 29:23to
- 29:23be
- 29:23a
- 29:23fascinating
- 29:24development.
- 29:24We'll
- 29:24see
- 29:25what
- 29:25happens.
- 29:25One
- 29:26thing
- 29:26I
- 29:26will
- 29:26say
- 29:26is
- 29:26we're
- 29:26a
- 29:27heck
- 29:27of
- 29:27a
- 29:27lot
- 29:27more
- 29:27sophisticated
- 29:28picking
- 29:28up
- 29:28on
- 29:28this
- 29:29stuff
- 29:29than
- 29:30we,
- 29:30we've
- 29:30ever
- 29:31been
- 29:31in
- 29:31the
- 29:31past.
- 29:31So
- 29:31when
- 29:32it
- 29:32does
- 29:32come
- 29:32out,
- 29:32it's
- 29:33not
- 29:33like
- 29:33we
- 29:33waited
- 29:34forever
- 29:34and
- 29:34it's
- 29:34revealed.
- 29:35It
- 29:35is
- 29:36revealed.
- 29:36Hey,
- 29:37I
- 29:37have
- 29:37covered
- 29:38a
- 29:38lot
- 29:38of
- 29:38ground.
- 29:39Literally.
- 29:40We
- 29:40have
- 29:40traveled
- 29:41around
- 29:41a
- 29:41good
- 29:41chunk
- 29:41of
- 29:42the,
- 29:42I
- 29:42think
- 29:42pretty
- 29:42much
- 29:43the
- 29:43entire
- 29:43world
- 29:44at
- 29:44this
- 29:44point,
- 29:45from
- 29:45the
- 29:46Middle
- 29:46east
- 29:47to
- 29:47Europe
- 29:47to
- 29:48Asia
- 29:49to
- 29:49the
- 29:49United
- 29:50States,
- 29:50North
- 29:50America.
- 29:51I
- 29:51think
- 29:51that's
- 29:52pretty
- 29:52much
- 29:52globetrotting
- 29:53or
- 29:54globe
- 29:54spanning
- 29:54discussion.
- 29:55I
- 29:55really
- 29:56do
- 29:56hope
- 29:56you've
- 29:56enjoyed
- 29:57this
- 29:57discussion.
- 29:58You
- 29:58know,
- 29:58this
- 29:58is,
- 29:59this
- 29:59is
- 29:59really
- 29:59talking
- 30:00about
- 30:00strategic
- 30:01risk
- 30:02and
- 30:02it's
- 30:02really,
- 30:03it's
- 30:03a
- 30:03strategic
- 30:04risk
- 30:04assessment
- 30:06discussion
- 30:07or
- 30:07talk,
- 30:08hence
- 30:09the
- 30:09term
- 30:09strat.
- 30:10And
- 30:11that's
- 30:11what
- 30:11this
- 30:11is
- 30:11all
- 30:11about,
- 30:12is
- 30:12to
- 30:12dig
- 30:12beneath
- 30:13the
- 30:13headlines,
- 30:14to
- 30:14get
- 30:14a
- 30:14little
- 30:14bit
- 30:15more
- 30:15or
- 30:15a
- 30:15lot
- 30:15more
- 30:16in
- 30:16depth
- 30:17as
- 30:17to
- 30:17what's
- 30:17going
- 30:17on
- 30:18and
- 30:19try
- 30:19to
- 30:19overcome
- 30:19some
- 30:20of
- 30:20the
- 30:20things
- 30:20we
- 30:20see
- 30:20in
- 30:20the
- 30:21news.
- 30:21I
- 30:21should
- 30:21mention,
- 30:22you
- 30:22know,
- 30:22I'm
- 30:22on
- 30:22a
- 30:23number
- 30:23of
- 30:23news
- 30:23outlets,
- 30:24I'm
- 30:24on
- 30:25almost
- 30:25daily
- 30:26on
- 30:26fox's
- 30:27Live
- 30:28now
- 30:28streaming
- 30:28news
- 30:29network.
- 30:29I'm
- 30:30on
- 30:30regularly
- 30:31with
- 30:31News
- 30:31Nation
- 30:32and
- 30:32a
- 30:33number
- 30:33of
- 30:33other
- 30:33local
- 30:34stations,
- 30:35television
- 30:35and
- 30:35radio.
- 30:36And
- 30:37certainly
- 30:37a
- 30:37lot
- 30:37of
- 30:37people
- 30:38think
- 30:38that
- 30:38I
- 30:39do
- 30:39have
- 30:39a
- 30:39face
- 30:39for
- 30:40radio.
- 30:41But
- 30:41with
- 30:41that,
- 30:42this
- 30:42is
- 30:42a
- 30:42way
- 30:43to
- 30:43kind
- 30:43of
- 30:43get
- 30:43beyond
- 30:44some
- 30:44of
- 30:44the
- 30:45wave
- 30:45top
- 30:45stuff
- 30:46you
- 30:46sometimes
- 30:46see
- 30:46in
- 30:46the
- 30:47broadcast
- 30:47news
- 30:48and
- 30:48to
- 30:48get
- 30:48more
- 30:48in
- 30:48depth.
- 30:49So
- 30:49I
- 30:49hope
- 30:49you
- 30:49stay
- 30:49tuned.
- 30:50I
- 30:50hope
- 30:50you
- 30:50tell
- 30:50all
- 30:51your
- 30:51friends,
- 30:52family,
- 30:53colleagues,
- 30:54anyone,
- 30:54to
- 30:55take
- 30:55a
- 30:55little
- 30:55time,
- 30:55maybe
- 30:56listen
- 30:56to
- 30:56this,
- 30:57those
- 30:57who
- 30:57would
- 30:57be
- 30:57interested.
- 30:58And
- 30:59I
- 30:59hope
- 30:59you
- 30:59found
- 30:59this
- 31:00very
- 31:00valuable
- 31:00use
- 31:01of
- 31:01your
- 31:01time.
- 31:01Thank
- 31:02you.
- 31:02Strat
- 31:03where
- 31:03global
- 31:04friends
- 31:04unfold
- 31:05with
- 31:05how
- 31:05temperate
- 31:06braving
- 31:06stories
- 31:07bold
- 31:07from
- 31:07espionage
- 31:08to
- 31:09economic
- 31:09might
- 31:10gain
- 31:10perspective
- 31:11see
- 31:11the
- 31:12light.
- 31:13Every
- 31:13week
- 31:14across
- 31:14the
- 31:15globe
- 31:15we
- 31:15spin
- 31:16decoding
- 31:17gray
- 31:17zones
- 31:18where
- 31:19battles
- 31:19often
- 31:20begin.