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Grounded Show Ep. 54 - The Martin Joke · The Grounded Show

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Yo, R and B groups from the nineties. Dog, I was talking
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about high five. I don't think you caught me when I said, yeah
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five like that Sammy little Haward. Oh no, what was high five?
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Like the way I like to I know that you kiss me? I knew
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that ship I got was that joint and the harder yet too she's playing high
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Yeah, that was some joints. I'm a little a couple of Terramnus deep.
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You know what I'm saying. Birthday weekend. It's about drive, It's
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about power. Yo, It's funny. I think we talked about it a
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little bit, but I was toasted that Jarry episode. Dog. Yeah.
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Remember. Yeah, everybody that hasn't that's been on the pod that hasn't heard
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that episode, go back. It's probably like episode I want to say,
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like fifteen twenty. Look for Jarry Knows and just listen to that episode and
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go ahead and enjoy. Yo. I was in my full drunk uncle like,
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Yo, the drunk uncle mode was super activated. Like even the way
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I was talking, everything was so funny. Man. Yeah, he would
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ask something, he'd be like, Okay, fuck that, listen, what
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we're gonna talk about? Facts? Bro? You know we need to run
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back clips from the earlier episodes for a fact, maybe the facts facts we
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are. I think that's when we could reveal the state. Butter Yo,
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Quincy, you think you would be comfortable kind of breaking down the story of
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the Martin thing that we were talking about earlier, like as far as like
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the whole situation happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically, um,
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you know, just for everybody listening, let's kind of drop like a
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clip in the chat where um, who was it, um, Eric Spears
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and what was that Bill Bellamy? Um? Yeah, they were just legends
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in the comedy game. Anybody that's in the know about comedy, we have
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facts and so basically what they were discussing was um and an older comic by
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the name of Derek Fox. And Derek Fox at the end of his set
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he would always do, um this uh you know kind of like chantey and
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something. You mentioned Quincy that as soon as Bill Bellamy mentioned uh, Derek
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Fox, Airy Spears was like, oh, I know where that's going on
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exactly up and so like to go to that point, I'll tell the story
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and go back to that point. But basically, um, Chantay is uh
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um kind of a character that he puts on at the end of his set,
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and you know, once he puts that character on on, you kind
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of already know where he's going with it. And come to find out,
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the long story short, Martin Lawrence comes to one of the shows um and
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does a set, and then uh, Eric Fox does a set, and
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you know, a short time after that, Martin has his show and the
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chene character comes about, and so you know, basically to go back to
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the point that you just you know mentioned less. You know, when I
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saw the clip, the first thing I saw was the fact that this is
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a common thing known in the comedy circle. In that industry, it's common
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get stolen all the time. Bro right, not decide bar. But I
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remember the first time I got really exposed to was my favorite George Lopez jokes
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when I was big George Lopez fan. Carlos Mencia came out and said,
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those are all my jokes. But I have history, and this was years
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ago, over ten years ago. So yeah, I've definitely been privy two
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jokes being stolen in the comedy industry, and I'm sure it happens. I
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think for me, my take on it is that it's like you know,
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if you didn't, if you didn't pay somebody, like, for example,
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a rapper, when they pay a ghostwriter, it's like you own that property,
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you know what's and you paid for it. You own that intellectual property.
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If you didn't pay for it, if you didn't hire them, if
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you know there's nothing tied to them that makes it okay for you to imitate
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it, and you don't at least pay homage to the person you're imitating,
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then it's that's kind of waxed me. You know what I'm saying. I
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got a question for you. The person who originated it, could they have
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done more to prevent that? You said? The person that could have?
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Oh no, I don't think so. No we can't because you never know,
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I mean, copy written that joke or that character. That's what I'm
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asking, Like, you think that is there anything that he could have done
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more to prevent that from happening? I mean he probably could have copy written
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the I mean, but even then, it's like, yeah, there's no
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way, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And the top of that,
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it's like, you know, why would you I feel like in comedy,
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like unless I'm releasing a special bro every time I go on stage.
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It's practice, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, why would
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you even think that, like I need to like protect this character because it
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might not work, you know what I'm saying, It might Yeah, yeah,
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So check this out, Devil's advocate. Let let's bring up Wentworth for
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example, how many dudes you knew and went where if that had an imitation
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of like the ghetto chicks around the neighborhood. I mean, it's a common
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thing. I'm saying. It's not like Sue was doing something groundbreaking or or
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you know, like the twist that he put on it versus the twist that
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Martin put on it. I'm not seeing where you know what I'm saying that
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they were doing anything like they was like, oh my gosh, Like he
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just just you know, he just took that verbatim or something. You know,
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the jokes weren't the same jokes. That's just the imitating the ghetto chick
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thing. You know. Heated that character so much like the consistent I roll,
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like I stayed up here what she was talking the look and it was
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such a more like extravagant look of a ghetto chick rather than just one piece
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in a wig. Um, that's what I mean. It's like, Okay,
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I get it. But if he was shipping in there, then I
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would have been like, all right, and to jump back to the other
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side of the fence. Going off of what you said, Joe, you're
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talking about a way bigger, budget, more processed version of it. Could
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have just said, hey, I'm trying to do this, and then if
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if he took that character to a TV show, he probably would have flipped
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it the two exact. And that's the point that I was making was that
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it was like, for example, if Usher came out right now and dropped
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it's okay, you know what I'm saying. Usher has million dollars studios,
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Usher has million dollars videos. Usher, It's Usher. You know what I'm
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saying. So it's it's gonna be it could be done better, you know
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what I'm saying. Like, just from that standpoint, so like, but
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at the end of the day, still the un fully locked potential version of
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something and you're saying, all right, let's do it on the big stage
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now, right. That's where it kind of gets tricky with the situation because
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it's like, Okay, you know this is kind of like a common thing,
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but for you to enter if it's truly how they presented it. Dak
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Martin specifically introduced it where he was on the same show with that guy and
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saw it. If that's the case, then it's kind of undeniable, and
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who knows if they had some kind of agreement behind the scenes, you know
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what I mean, Because it's very common in comedy also to just pay people
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for a joke, just straight up, you know what I mean, Like
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a lot of comics they'll they'll sell jokes to other communities to be like,
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yo, I got this premise, I got this bit. You know,
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they'll tell them it whatever, and then if they like it, they'll be
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like, okay, how much you know, and they'll actually like buy jokes
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like up like that. So who knows if they work something out like that.
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And these dudes is just talking from you know, not even being there
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or knowing what the situation is, you know what I mean. So that's
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facts. That's like, well real quick, jo I was gonna say.
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So my question to both of you is that at the end of the clip,
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you know, Bill Bellamy said, you know, if you if you
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want to come, you know, what I'm saying, tell your side.
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You know what I'm saying. You're open to it. Now. My question
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to y'all is, if you were Martin Lawrence and you let's say you did
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it, let's say you didn't rip it off, would you want to tell
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your side? Well, I was gonna say, it's still alignes of what
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you said. I just want to make the little, the little shift to
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music because I think it allignes more with with with your both of y'all's experience,
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same thing with music, the whole ship with Drake and the ghost riding,
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and he got to address it finally in a disc record to push the
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t and there's a lot of like Diddy uh and you know, you know
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a lot of people Kanye people board reversed to him. They have never wanted
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to come out and say, yeah, I guess you know they did do
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that for me. So it's do you want to maintain that credit and authenticity
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of it or tell the truth? Stop right out of Lester and you because
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you know, I mean, at the end of the day, it really
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just comes down to like what type of person you are? You know what
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I mean? Like he don't owe anybody any kind of explanation, because that
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thing is dead and over with, you know what I mean, regardless of
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what he says. Now you know it happened and it's done, you know
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what I mean. But you know, on the other side of it,
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if let's say he is coming from a genuine place and he says, hey,
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you know what, I actually did lift that from him, it would
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be good if, if you know, he at least extended a hand like
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something. That wouldn't matter, like what would that do for Martin's legacy?
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I mean, it won't do nothing from ours legacy, but it might do
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something for his conscience, you know what I mean. And that's when we
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get in that was one of his six hundred bits. You think that weighs
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heavy on his conscience. It might not weigh heavy on his conscience from that
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point of view, But I'm looking at it from the point of view of
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yeah, that's just one of your bits. But for somebody that didn't make
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it to the level that you made it, you know what I mean,
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that could have been a thing that made their career, you know what I'm
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saying. And let's be real, that's the thing that made Martin's career.
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Bro. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not saying he wasn't
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successful before that, but after Martin and the whole big bro. Yes,
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But at the same time Martin was doing characters in that show period. Yeah,
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that wasn't the only character like character he created talking. He wrote all
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those characters exactly, and he passed a lot of them, you know.
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Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like, all right, he got
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he got the inspiration for she for like comedy dude back in the day or
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in the shows. I get that, But I don't think would have made
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a break any I don't think she name his character would have made a break
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his career. And I agree, I never I don't think that. I
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don't think that at all. I mean, at the end of the day,
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Martin's a legend. Whether he stole every aspect of Shenana, you know
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what I'm saying, the end of the day, if that dude would have
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had like if he would have had Jerome and all these characters part of the
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set, and then all those same characters part of Martin's show, that's different.
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I put him back more than one I'm already questioning and to say,
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all right, so how much is this shit? But that one and it
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and and it was it was close, but it wasn't as good as she.
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That's all I'm like. I brushed that shit under the rug, which
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is not good for people to do. But all I'm saying, bro,
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all I'm saying is that if it is facts, you know what I'm saying,
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because this this really could all be speculation, you know what I'm saying.
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But if it is facts, Like, if it really is facts,
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I just would have hoped that Martin at least paid homage, you know what
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I'm saying. Like, you know, y'all don't know about this guy.
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You know what I'm saying that Um Derek, Derek, Derek, Um,
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you know y'all don't know about this guy, but you know this was where
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inspiration came from. That would have cleared all that up a story that guy.
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And like I said, this is all speculation to us, but we
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just we see it the same way back when Smiles and South Star and we
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know people who know them, we're getting big in Orlando. They Orlando based
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rappers, and Gary and his people were rapping. One of Gary's boys is
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a really good rapper and a really good punchline, but he doesn't promote he's
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never promoted music online. He's just created a bunch of music and just created
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it. And he had a line in the freestyle that went pretty viral back
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then, and you remember BJ Armstrong, Yeah, he said you know my
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Armstrong like BJ right, first, no one's ever said anything like that,
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And then Smiles and Styles start wrapped the same ship, and then they dissed
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Orlando's rappers in that verse, and at the end of the day, it's
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just us talking about it because there's absolutely nothing they possibly could have done to
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signed artists who who are on a label and making records and making video music
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videos, and we're sitting here like, bro, that line was definitely his,
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heard it and then you dissed him, and it's just like, thinking
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back then, it's like there's probably nothing that he could have done, especially
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in comedy because there's so much of it and so many people telling jokes and
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creating characters, Like, what could he possibly have done at that point?
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Just tell people like, hey, that was my shit. Yeah. A
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lot of that stuff is like just in the air, like especially with punchlines.
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When it comes to being a rapper dog like I never like when I
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used to rap, I was a real like punchline heavy type rapper, you
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know what I mean. And I never really paid attention to like that kind
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of chatter, like even like within the city and stuff, because it was
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like, Bro, we all taking in the same content. We all in
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the same kind of genre, rapping in a certain style. It's like,
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Bro, we're gonna think of the same things, you know what I mean,
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Like, especially when you're all in the same city, Like you're gonna
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pull from the same references, You're gonna do the same kind of rhymes and
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everything like that, because every y'all all think the same stuff is hard,
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you know what I'm saying. But this was like two thousand and three though,
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Yeah, but that's I don't think even I don't think there was an
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air back there back then as it is now. No, No, But
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I'm just saying just the idea that like whatever Cruise is rapping at the time,
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like they're just pulling inspiration from everything that's going on regardless, you know
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what I'm saying. They don't even have to intersect. I see what I'm
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saying. It's like very common that you're you know, especially as a rapper,
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like you're gonna sit and think when you're writing in a verse of like
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different players and how you can plug them into like a punchline or something like
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that. Yeah, and listening to music now, after listening to for so
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long and even you see like maybe freestyle battles or freestyles in general, you
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can guess the next lyric facts like I know exactly where he is going,
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and you'll see the person like say the same way that they're gonna like,
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I know exactly where you're going with this bar, and they'll they'll say that
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last word before they even heard that bar anywhere in life. They know exactly
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where you're going with it. So it's a lot of angles, a lot
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of variables, bro, it's just so much. Look at it, the
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whole Martin things like drake for me, like all right, you you go
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throke that one track? Okay, yeah, don't And that's kind of my
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thing where it like when you tie it all together. It's like, I
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mean, tie it all together. As far as comparing the Martin thing to
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the music thing, it's like, at the end of the day, it
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didn't make or break his career. He had a whole bunch of other content
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that you know what I'm saying, like, propelled him to that next level.
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So it's like one thing is not his legacy, you know what I'm
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saying, Like, regardless of what you know, when you're creating so much,
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bro, your stuff is gonna overlap with other people's stuff, you know
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what i mean, especially like as as an artist too, like rappers sing
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or whatever. You know what I'm saying, If you got a lot of
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content that you're putting out, it's gonna sound like what somebody else has and
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if they put it out before you, they're gonna think, oh my god,
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there's no way this. It kind of goes back to the deja vu
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thing we talked about last week. You know what I'm saying. It's like
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everybody thinks, like, oh, there's no way this just randomly happened,
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you know what I'm saying. And it's like, it's not that random one
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and two, there is a way that this would happen because you know,
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that's what patterns are. You know what I'm saying, Like, if you're
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doing certain things certain ways, and you know, the chances of certain things
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happening increase, and especially if it's something that's on your mind that you're kind
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of leaning towards, you know what I mean. It's kind of like that
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same concept of like whenever you think about a car or something like that,
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like oh, man, I want to buy this car, and you look
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it up in a certain color, all of a sudden, you start seeing
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it in that color all around you know what I'm saying, And it's like
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is it because you looked it up? Or is it because now it's in
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your brain so when you see it, you identify it instead of it just
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being a blur of a car driving by. You can't hear you, Joe,
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your mute in my man, I said, or the FBI agent on
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your phone and it's turned up on you. Thanks, thanks for paying attention.
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And that'd be funny too, man, when people be like and I
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do agree, Like, don't don't get me wrong. I do think that
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phones be you know, the mic beyond sometimes and they'll be catching people talking.
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But I don't think it's as often as people think it is, you
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know what I mean, Like, I don't know, man, because I'll
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tell you one thing, bro. Literally the other day my fiance it was
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like, I wanna someone we need a new couch and the you know downstairs,
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and literally she picked up her phone open Instagram and the first day she
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saw I was an ask for a couch. That's like immediately yeah. But
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you know, if you have the hay Siri feature turned down and look at
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my ships already acting up, the phone's listening in twenty four seven. It
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literally is constantly picking up every single thing you say. Yeah, so if
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you say, hey, Siri, right now, your phone activate, somebody
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just did again, your phone's listening to you twenty four seven. I definitely
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feel we are coming from try out. I also look at it from like
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the I don't use it say, it's everything. I don't have this,
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I don't have a disabled Yeah, mine just popped up. Yeah, so
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she's listening twenty fo what you said, But a lot of people don't know
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that when you have voice commands or anything on your legs or your phone,
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it's listening. Twenty four seven. The microphone is on and is listening all
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right, I'm done with my ranking. Yeah, and even and even how
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people be um wondering like damn my phone be dying so fast. It's like
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if you add those permissions to a lot of apps in your phone, like
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Joe said, the MIC's always on, you know, it's it's always using
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the sensors and the camera time. So your battery is just you know,
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dying because it's really just running hot all day, you know what I'm saying,
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because your phone is on active mode. Um. I don't know if
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he want to straight away from that last conversation, but one last thing I
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wanted to talk about was um, y'all said that Buddy ended his whole career
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after that. That's what they were talking to, that he stopped doing comedy
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the way he handled it, or what if he was in that position?
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Would you just debt everything after that? So if we're if we're talking about
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it from the premise of believing that he stole a joke from him, then
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let's say that's the premise I wouldn't stop. I mean it. Lets you
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know, like, Okay, I got something dope, Like if if somebody
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took it and made it work on a national level, I know, I'm
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dope. You know what I'm saying, Like I'll try to flip it,
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you know what I mean. Of course you'll be pissed, but it's like
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if it happens and you really have nothing to do like that you can specifically
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do to get your retribution, your credit or whatever. Like if it's out
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of your hands, bro, it's out of your hands, like you could
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dwell on it, or you could just keep trying to push and do something
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better. Like either way, it happened, and that's it. I think
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that's the that's the small aspect of it for me that you know, makes
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me kind of like weird about it because again I agree with everything you said,
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Joe Legend to the end of the time, like all of that is
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cool and danny, but if he did steal that and Buddy actually ended his
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career off of it, then you obviously wasn't extending a hand to Buddy,
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you know what I'm saying. Like the obviously was like you hit a block
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in the road and was like you know ft, you know what I'm saying.
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So like to me, it just tells me that it was like damn,
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like if you did steal it and you got so much success and you
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can't like put people on that kind of really helped pay that way for you,
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and that that kind of, you know, changes my perspective on the
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situation. But again at the end of the day. Still a legend,
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so real quick, and I think we could tie to Martin thing. Go
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ahead, less you want to go now. I was gonna say, but
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check this out though, Like what if Buddy stopped doing comedy because Martin cashed
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them out? Well, okay, so that's what I'm saying, Like you
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know what I'm saying. But I also wanted some crazy stuff Martin's personal history,
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mental health history. He doesn't seem like he would be the kind of
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person. I don't know who he is today, but you see, we
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see what he's got, what he's gone through it in his career and all
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that crazy shit, extra shit, and it's like, I don't see himself
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as a type of character to actually look out for other people because he's so
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busy trying to just make sure he's still good. Yeah. Yeah, if
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anybody else is interested in this story, and y'all get more information d on
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the ground to show, let us know what's good, what y'all find,
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because I don't think he's gonna dig too deep into it, but if there's
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more insight on it, I think we would like to know. It's interesting.
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Bro. Like I said that, that's one of the things there's so
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many angles to it. There's so many chaples. You have to consider everything
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exactly. And first I'm saying like that the angle of it to me that
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is the most interesting is like all right there. Like I said with the
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music thing, like they're all comedians working kind of the same circuits against the
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same kind of crowds, pulling it from the same influences, you know what
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I mean, Like them jokes are going to overlap, especially if you're a
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working comedian working on material over and over and over, and just how many
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times it's been done in comedy, you know what I'm saying. If it's
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like you're the first guy ever to imitate a girl as a comedian, then
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maybe you got something. But it's like you have so many examples of so
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many comedians before that doing that. You know, yeah, that is real
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man. Well yeah, man. The comedy thing is always dope, just
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because comedy is one of those things like skateboarding that we talked about in the
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past where it's like you can't fake it, like you if you're a comedian,
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you gotta work and nobody could take away the laughs, you know what
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I'm saying. Just the same thing with skateboarding, Like if you're good,
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you're good. Nobody could say. It's not an opinion based thing, you
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know what I mean. It's like it's either happening or it's not. And
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that's always super dope. It's like the same thing with wrestling, yo,
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Like people say certain wrestlers aren't that good. They talk about John Cena being
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a terrible wrestler, like as far as like technical ability and like the way
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he has a match, but it's like dog, he was like the top
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top wrestler that the only one anybody ever knew, Like nobody knew any wrestler
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since the Rocking Stone Cold except for John Cina. Yeah, John Cena is
23:30
the only one that people actually know who you're talking about if you mentioned John
23:33
Cena and Brock but yeah, brock Lessener. Bro A lot of people don't
23:38
know who brock Lessener is. I didn't I didn't know. I didn't know.
23:41
He had an alter ego where he had like a ponytail. He was
23:45
he payed a whole different character. One thing I want to say, now,
23:48
are we in the era of truth where people who were just they call
23:55
him underdogs and appreciated and it scores from athletes, musicians, everything. Now
24:00
people are creating these retrospective compilations that shows like, Yo, these people really
24:06
were the top of the top of the top of the line kind of entertainers.
24:11
And that's one thing I learned about John Cena. I didn't know anything
24:14
about him, and I played WWE and I learned his whole career, and
24:18
I learned about brock Less, and I was like, wow, how did
24:19
I not know? None of this shit happened? And then so I randomly
24:27
watched videos on YouTube and I watched the video on YouTube about when WWF ditched
24:34
Whole Kogan and Raise Ramon and everybody, and they all went WCW created the
24:41
nWo and it was Scott Hall and Kevin Nash versus three other dudes. Oh,
24:49
I think it was Macho Man Ultimate Warrior and missed the perfect right.
24:55
It was a three way through way and they literally in real life, had
24:59
no idea who was their third tag team person would be. And it was
25:03
supposed to be Hulk Hogan, but I would mean Hulk Hogan would have to
25:07
throw away his entire reputation as like the American Dream and the People's Wrestler,
25:14
you know, the People's champ, and they said that he had a contract
25:18
clause that he hit he could personally decide what happened to his character, no
25:22
matter what events or anybody said. And he literally came out there and that's
25:26
when he led drop Macho Man and he turned and he became in Tobo and
25:32
it's like we watched I don't know we I watched that as a kid and
25:36
thought it yeah, and thought it was just like part of the gimmick.
25:40
And there was so much behind it, so much behind the decision that Hulk
25:44
Hogan made to change and go against everything because they knew and that's when they
25:48
started throwing shit in the ring. And it's crazy. So I'm like,
25:51
what if I never knew that, you know? And that's so I think
25:55
we're in the error. We're fighting out ship that we never knew that mattered
25:59
more or about the person doing it then we gave him credit for And you
26:04
want to hear the crazy part, Joe tying it back to the Martin thing.
26:07
The NWOH was ripped off of the Japanese Wrestling Federation that did like a
26:15
similar thing, like the same kind of style, the same you know.
26:22
That's one thing. Yeah, and Eric Bischoff kind of got you know,
26:26
that's where like the idea was planning in his head and he kind of,
26:30
you know, he switched it up and made it, you know, work
26:32
over here, you know for the American he was. That's the only reason
26:37
I'm Eric Bishop mm hmmm. That's wild. That's wild. They took that
26:41
idea from somebody else too, Yeah, yeah, but it's crazy. Like
26:47
I said, we watched that and then going back now and knowing that them
26:51
themselves had no idea and like wrestling is fake, yeah, and they write
26:53
storylines, but sometimes like the Montreal screw job, you know what I'm saying.
26:59
Like, and to explain it, like for people that don't even care
27:02
about wrestling or don't have any knowledge of anything we're talking about, just think
27:07
about it this way. Holk Hogan was the biggest wrestler like that everybody knows
27:11
to this day, he's the He's like part of the reason why wrestling even
27:18
got to the level it did because his character got so known just crossed over
27:22
like to the point where like rock stars wanted to be like Holk Hogan,
27:26
you know what I mean. It was crazy. And since he had that
27:30
position, obviously people was buying his merch he's a good guy. Yeah,
27:36
that's what People was buying his stuff for their kids, you know what I
27:40
mean, the toys, everything. And in wrestling, if you turn into
27:44
a bad guy, you know what I'm saying. If you decide, Okay,
27:47
I'm gonna be a bad guy wrestler, people stop buying your stuff because
27:51
you're the bad guy. You're the jerk. You don't want to heal every
27:53
like, hey, you're an ugly crowd of your town is ugly. Look
27:56
at you, dirt bags? You know what I mean by that guy shirt.
28:00
So he had to really think about, like, dang, do I
28:03
change my character to try to freshen up or do I keep trying to hold
28:07
on to this like American dream thing that's already fading? You know what I
28:11
mean? It was super dope like kind of how it happened and everything.
28:15
Could you compare it to? And that's why I think wrestling across the boundaries
28:22
more than people know, because even if you're an athlete or musician, you
28:26
gotta play a part. Are you the good guy and the bad guy?
28:29
Kevin Durant going to the Warriors, I think that's when he turned. He'll
28:33
that's when he turned the bad guy. You know, he left what the
28:37
home team knew him what. Everybody loved him for the guy that he was,
28:41
and he said, fuck that, I want one thing and I'm going
28:45
over there to get it. And they know that. And that's why,
28:48
like I think a lot of athletes are big wrest of the fan because they
28:51
know they have a character to maintain, you gotta And that's what that was,
28:55
Scott Halston. One more for the bad guys, you know what I
28:57
mean? Yeah, that's real, That's definitely real. Yeah, And that
29:03
was like the time they started like blurring the lines and wrestling where like they
29:07
were trying to make them. They were letting the bad guys be cool,
29:11
so people kind of didn't know who they really wanted to root for, you
29:14
know what I mean, Like people just eventually started ruling for the bad guys
29:17
because they were cooler. You know. Yeah, ye know, nWo Bro,
29:22
I ain't gonna everybody loves nWo bro Bro. When they spray painted the
29:25
bell, when they spray painted people they beat up like yeah, yeah,
29:30
I was like I had an NBO shirt dog. And then when they got
29:33
conan dog, Oh my gosh, bro, Because I'm Puerto Rican, bro,
29:37
like he he was Mexican and he's not even Mexican, like for real,
29:41
you know what I'm saying. I think he's Cuban and something else like
29:45
mixed, but he's not even Mexican. Like he was just Mexican, like
29:48
because he started wrestling in Mexico. When then when he came to the United
29:52
States from Mexico, like it just kind of stuck with him that he was
29:56
from Mexico, you know what I mean. And he just playing like Mexican
30:00
thug in the nWo and just me being like a Puerto Rican kid and seeing
30:04
out oh yeah yeah, you know, yeah yeah, b yeah is hard.
30:18
Yeah, that's crazy now. And it's like this, like I said,
30:23
like not a lot of people are wrestling fans. They call it fake,
30:26
but so many people have made um a name for the like Yoka Zuna
30:30
being part of the Rocks family and he paid the Japanese freaking sumo wrestler,
30:34
you know, and nobody knows that still to this day that like his name
30:37
was Yoka Zuna. Yokazuna is the name of like a Japanese martial arts like
30:42
sumo wrestler. It's not even a person's name, and you see what these
30:45
people did just for the fans. They didn't do that shit for themselves.
30:49
I'm in a double check, but I think Yoka Zuna is like the strongest
30:53
sumo wrestler, Like that's what they call him. Oh yeah, I knew
30:57
something like with Japanese uh athleticism something. That's what I'm going with. Oh
31:07
that's what the yokazuna is a grand champion. Yeah, that makes sense.
31:11
So they just basically named him exactly what he was, a sumo wrestler that
31:15
was supposed to be, like a great supermo wrestler. And that's what I
31:19
said, just running back real quick. We're in the era where we're finding
31:23
out the truth about a lot of stuff we didn't really know how deep it
31:26
was. And I appreciate that. Some of it's not good like Mike,
31:30
like Martin Lawrence stole jokes. Some of it is good, like seeing whole
31:36
give up his whole allegedly give up his whole entire persona and his career and
31:41
everything he molded his whole entire life around to know what the fans would absolutely
31:47
love, and him turning into bo and it's just like that selflessness to me,
31:52
Yeah, that that that's just all right. I'm going to the point
31:55
where I'm not doing it for me anymore. I'm doing it for the people
31:57
who still fuck with me, and it's dope. It's up to see that
32:01
in athleticism and athletes, in artistry and every everywhere you're at. Man,
32:07
and I shared something on Facebook recently like the best thing you could do if
32:13
you if you're really smart, you have knowledge to share with people and getting
32:15
and grow their knowledge too. I mean, I think that's we're in an
32:20
era there. It's a little late, and I think it's only popular because
32:23
of social media, but we in the era where people are sharing a lot
32:27
more knowledge of how they got where they're at. Yeah, it's definitely like
32:32
more behind the curtains, you know, getting a peak of the process.
32:37
You know, a lot of old behind the scenes footage coming out and it's
32:40
super dope to me, you know what I mean. I'm always for that
32:44
kind of stuff, just seeing like what the real like moments in those epic
32:51
situations were, you know what I mean. Yeah, I always appreciate that,
32:54
like seeing like Okay, how did you actually execute that? You know?
33:00
That's why the Rock Show was so hard. Man, I can't believe
33:06
I was waiting for this new season, like you know what I mean,
33:09
I thought, Yeah, I'm back for sure. Bro They checked like every
33:13
week at this new episode. I was trying. You know what I think
33:16
it is, dog. I think they just made it too high budget,
33:21
you know what I mean, Like there's mad production value and show and that
33:24
show, you know what I mean, Like if they would have maybe like
33:29
yeah, they playing the license to portray all those characters. They gotta pay
33:31
for the license. They're paying WW for that unless the Rocks getting broke off
33:36
for free, which I doubt because yeah, but I mean, you never
33:40
know, because the Rock has used to point in his career where a show
33:43
like that would just bring more attention to w W. Like I ain't gonna
33:45
lie Brod. Watching Young Rock got me back interested in wrestling again, you
33:50
know what I'm saying. So he might have a good, a nice little
33:52
situation with it. But like I'm even talking about like the fact that they
33:55
based the show like the actual show itself is based in the future, you
34:00
know what I mean, Yeah, exactly, mad futuristic and they got like
34:05
CGI and all this unnecessary stuff that who knows if this the show is that
34:09
much cheaper to do if they would a green litter m you know what I
34:14
mean cheaper because that'd be happening a lot. Like like you come out the
34:17
bat with like this crazy budget and they're like expecting this like grand slam of
34:22
a show from you, and it's like you can't dictate that, Like you
34:25
can't just say, oh, I got the formula to make a hit show,
34:29
you know, and you know all those writer strikes and stuff going on
34:31
in that industry right now, So it's it's it's a lot going on in
34:35
that industry. So you know a lot of stuff supposedly is getting canceled because
34:38
of that too, So who knows. You know, January she was on
34:43
the pod um you know, probably like ten episodes, ten fifteen episodes ago.
34:46
She's works in the film industry, and you know that that's what she's
34:50
dealing with from you know, from that standpoint of like you know, kind
34:52
of waiting for it to play out. You know what I'm saying, that's
34:55
your career, you know what I'm saying. So it's kind of crazy.
34:59
Do you think there was any Hayte involved? There's Um, there's two wrestlers,
35:07
um that are part of the Roman Rings, the bloodline where they're all
35:10
Samoan wrestlers and they're ussos Uso brothers. They're like tag team champions. Yeah
35:15
yeah, yeah yeah. And they had interview and they had to break down
35:21
their whole entire family tree and they started to appear my via to Rocky Johnson
35:27
and they named literally every single person except the Rock. And what do you
35:30
do that? You go to the comments section, They're like what you're doing?
35:35
Like why would how do you not name the Rock right in your whole
35:39
blood And they named thirty seven people except the Rock and they and they like,
35:45
oh who else? Who else are we missing? And they just kept
35:47
naming. I don't know if it was a bit, but do you think
35:53
there's Hay I don't know. I wouldn't think that deep dog, because nowadays,
35:58
man, everything is so reaction basic with social media that that could have
36:00
been done on purpose. You know. They were kind of angling to do
36:06
a main event with The Rock at WrestleMania, so they were trying to kind
36:09
of like add fuel to that fire to get the Rock to commit to do
36:14
it, you know what I mean, Like they were they were throwing them
36:16
little things out there because they're trying to promote you know, they're trying to
36:20
lock the Rock in to promote that fight at WrestleMania, you know, roll
36:22
their reins versus the Rock, you know what I mean, Like for the
36:25
head of the Dynasty, you know what I mean, Like they're trying to
36:31
make it happen. Doug. Yeah, it's a lot more, man,
36:37
And like we were talking about, you know, y'all got some things coming
36:40
up, and we just talk about the background of things. There's a lot
36:44
more things that go onto the background than will ever know about unless a special
36:47
gets released twenty years from now and tells us, Like, I know,
36:52
projects y'all worked on together, tracks y'all worked on together that I loved and
36:55
I didn't love, and then I hear the story six years later about how
37:00
it all went down. It's just crazy. Just the truth behind everything changes
37:04
perspective of how you look at it for sure. Oh yeah, yeah,
37:07
facts, man, Um. But yeah, like you said, Man,
37:10
a lot of dope, dope things coming up. I'm pretty sure by the
37:15
next episode we'll have like a few stories from some performances, just dope stuff
37:21
happening with the music right now, and uh, you know, I think
37:24
I think next week will be a nice little check in and everybody, and
37:29
I'll be thirty nine years old next week. Let's go. So you already
37:34
know it's about out here. Next week, dog, I'm about to be
37:39
drunk status drunk. If you want to. We could do it Wenesday,
37:45
we could do it all my birthday to work. Let's get it. Let's
37:46
get it Wednesday. Um my son got basketball. Yeah, h yo,
37:53
shout out to my daughter. Man, she just had her first volleyball game,
37:58
and she went hammer time like she looked like she had already played in
38:00
a volleyball league a couple of times, like yeah, her poise was crazy,
38:05
like she was saying it like yo, I was mad and pressed though
38:08
I was super impressed. That's dope, bro, that's super dope. Love
38:13
to see it, yeah, man, But yeah, anything y'all want to
38:16
lead the folks with ah? Man, you know you already mentioned it.
38:21
But I got a performance this Sunday. Lester got a performance this Sunday.
38:25
We're gonna recap on that next week. Man, too excited about this weekend?
38:32
Well yeah, you got anything, Joe, Nah, But I think
38:36
it's I think we should do, like a little compilation video of all our
38:39
best clips. Someone's got to go through them. I don't know who's gonna
38:42
do it, so i'd be thinking of ideas I don't want to do,
38:45
but stay better.