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Jags Drive Time: Friday, December 6 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars footbags. Goolby Cottage and
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps John Oh says it
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  Speaker 1: actually Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Good morning, and
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  Speaker 1: welcome into Jaguars Drive Time Friday morning here on the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. As we start Friday morning, a little
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  Speaker 1: change up, Doug Baron joins us early for coffee with
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  Speaker 1: the coach. It's got his coffee, We've got his my
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  Speaker 1: cause my sneakers. Well if you just put that down,
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  Speaker 1: coach to be careful. Yes, So coming in hot, all right,
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  Speaker 1: he's on it this morning, ready to go, ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought we'd be talking about a state championship
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  Speaker 1: game tonight, But you guys don't play tonight. Huh. Now
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  Speaker 1: they play Wednesday, Okay, daytona, they play book or tea. Good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy for all those kids. It's always good to
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  Speaker 1: see a team, you know, whatever team it is. And
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  Speaker 1: Jackson obviously you know UM Bowl is going there. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think that you've got to support any
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  Speaker 1: team that's in Jacksonville, that that that's playing, and without
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  Speaker 1: bragging too much, it's got to be a great feeling
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  Speaker 1: watching your son go through that kind of experience. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think. You know, obviously it's um it's the first
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  Speaker 1: time experience for me. Um. You know, you see it
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit on different stages, but you know, when
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  Speaker 1: it's at home, it's it's different and it's not just
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  Speaker 1: my son, it's you know, all his friends and everyone
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  Speaker 1: else and the coaches there, uh, you know the other parents.
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  Speaker 1: So um, you know, it's an exciting time for them,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, just have to appreciate it, even though
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  Speaker 1: obviously we're going through a disappointing time right now. Is
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  Speaker 1: he still walking around with the football? Has he dropped
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  Speaker 1: it yet? It's just funny when you come home every
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  Speaker 1: night and you know he's watching the stuff on the
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  Speaker 1: iPad and you know the team that he lay in
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  Speaker 1: and you know he's talking about you know, what's what's
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  Speaker 1: going on and what they have to do, and you
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  Speaker 1: know how good these other players are. And I said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's how it is when you're playing in this
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  Speaker 1: guy game. You're not gonna play a bad football team.
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  Speaker 1: And it applies to all levels. So how has this
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  Speaker 1: week been preparing for the Chargers? Obviously disappointing so far
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  Speaker 1: this season, but in the locker room, it still seems
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  Speaker 1: like this team is really focused on Sundays. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean this team has been fighting. Um you know it
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  Speaker 1: just you know, trying to find a way to get
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  Speaker 1: get us over the tops. Um. You know, the chemistry
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  Speaker 1: is good. Um. You know, like like you said that
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  Speaker 1: they it's it's important to them. Um. I think all
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  Speaker 1: these things come into mind and um, you know we're
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  Speaker 1: trying to find a way to win games or this
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  Speaker 1: win this last quarter, um, to get you know, a
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  Speaker 1: good taste in our mouths. I mean it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you go out there every day, you put in a
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  Speaker 1: week's work of work, and you know when you get
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  Speaker 1: out there and you don't perform well, Um, not only
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  Speaker 1: are letting yourself down, you know, coaches and players, but
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  Speaker 1: you know you're letting people in the building down. You're
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  Speaker 1: letting the fans down, you're letting the sponsors down, everyone
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  Speaker 1: that's affiliated with the program, and you know, people become
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  Speaker 1: upset and um and rightly so. UM. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: from that standpoint, it's it's tough. You know, you have
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  Speaker 1: to have good leadership. You gotta have your you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to keep going ahead. You've got to recognize
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  Speaker 1: what your issues are and what your problems are. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to make sure that everyone has a stands it.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, at a certain point you have to
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  Speaker 1: get back and go to work and try to um
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  Speaker 1: create you know, these thoughts of hey, listen, something good
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  Speaker 1: is gonna happen. We've got to create something good to
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  Speaker 1: happen because a lot of times, and we all know
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  Speaker 1: this in sports and you hear this all the time,
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  Speaker 1: is hey, listen, you know, if we get up on
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  Speaker 1: these guys, you know they won't be able to come back.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a shot you know at your mental toughness,
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  Speaker 1: and and that's something that we don't we we don't
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  Speaker 1: even want to enter our minds. Obviously, huge stories week
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  Speaker 1: got Gardner going back in the lineup. I know it's
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  Speaker 1: only been maybe a month he's been out of the
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  Speaker 1: starting lineup. Any change, any growth from him that you
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  Speaker 1: see from the last time he was starting. Any I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of times in the game of football.
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  Speaker 1: What I've always seen is is you see um improvement
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  Speaker 1: from the practice standpoint. You know, so the players go
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  Speaker 1: in and whatever position is, uh, you'll see them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: make improvements, subtle improvements as they go along. I think
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  Speaker 1: what you you have to there's a certain point where
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  Speaker 1: you can you can take a player and then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden he has to go in there and
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  Speaker 1: actually perform. And and I think, you know, Gardner is
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  Speaker 1: still very young, and he's still you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: he's working both ends of it, so you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: getting better during the week and practice and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously the performance, you know, we'll we'll see you know,
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  Speaker 1: how he does getting better. And I think it goes
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  Speaker 1: back to you know, Brandon More with an offensive lineman
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  Speaker 1: that I had. You know, he wasn't playing, but we
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  Speaker 1: were working with him kind of the same way that
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  Speaker 1: we did with Gardner after practice and doing that, and
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  Speaker 1: it was the point where I went into management. I said, look,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is the I can't he's at the
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  Speaker 1: peak now. This is this is We've got to put
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  Speaker 1: him in a game and see if he can play,
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  Speaker 1: you know, at the level that he's practicing and we
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  Speaker 1: played him the last game of the season. He went
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  Speaker 1: in there and played well against a six year player.
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  Speaker 1: The following year, UM, he became our starting guard and
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  Speaker 1: he remained the starting guard there for the next you know,
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  Speaker 1: eight or ten years. So you know, there's a point
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  Speaker 1: you get to from a coaching standpoint, you can get
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  Speaker 1: a player too, but then he has to go out
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  Speaker 1: there and actually get it done. On Sunday, take us
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  Speaker 1: to the penalties coach, because two years ago you were
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  Speaker 1: one of the least penalized teams in the league, and
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  Speaker 1: now you're one of the most. How does that happen
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  Speaker 1: or is it a function of losses multiplying and guys
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  Speaker 1: getting frustrated? How would you explain it and how do
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  Speaker 1: you get through it. I've always looked at penalties, UM
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  Speaker 1: pretty much consistently this way. I mean, obviously the there
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  Speaker 1: are penalties that that is a lack of discipline from
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  Speaker 1: a standpoint of UM. You know, when you throw a
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  Speaker 1: punch or you know, the frustration and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 1: so that that goes on me. You know that that's
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  Speaker 1: for me as the head coach, have to do it.
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  Speaker 1: But then when you start looking at you know, some
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  Speaker 1: of the other penalties. You know, a lot of times,
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  Speaker 1: I've always believed that, you know, the player a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times has to be able to put himself in
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  Speaker 1: position most of the times when you see penalties like
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  Speaker 1: you know, holding or face mask or um you know,
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  Speaker 1: defensive pass interference. You know, offensive pass interference not as
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  Speaker 1: much because I think that you can control that, but
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  Speaker 1: there you look at it and it's you know, you
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  Speaker 1: want to be able to put the players in position
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  Speaker 1: where they don't do that. If they um are in
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  Speaker 1: that position where they feel they have to do that,
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  Speaker 1: then you have to work on them saying it's not
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  Speaker 1: worth it, like it's is it better to have you know,
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  Speaker 1: second and thirteen you know what I'm saying, or first
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  Speaker 1: and twenty you know, so I mean, it's not worth it.
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  Speaker 1: And then especially you know, my big thing preaching all
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  Speaker 1: the time was obviously in the in the in the
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  Speaker 1: red zone, you know when you're going into score because
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  Speaker 1: you know you are literally taking points off the ball board,
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  Speaker 1: you know with these plays, and you'll be on teams
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  Speaker 1: some years where you can overcome those penalties. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because you might have you know, playmakers, you might have
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  Speaker 1: you know, other other things that you can do to
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  Speaker 1: make it up for it. But right now we're not
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  Speaker 1: we're not good enough to to overcome those types of penalties.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about your my cause, my sneakers. Why do
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  Speaker 1: you want to get involved? Sure? You know, I've always
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  Speaker 1: been involved in UM with children. It started out probably
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  Speaker 1: because my wife, Helen, was an assistant assistant district attorney
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  Speaker 1: for basically she she specialized in child sex abuse. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, we started getting involved with UM. You know,
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  Speaker 1: these child advocacy centers uh that opened up because early
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  Speaker 1: on it was such a tough experience for these kids
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  Speaker 1: UM because you know, you'd have to go to the
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  Speaker 1: you know, to the you know, the police building. You know,
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  Speaker 1: then you have to meet with attorneys, and then you
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  Speaker 1: have to meet with child services and you know, and
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  Speaker 1: you have all these things which which puts kids through
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  Speaker 1: a terrible experience. And then you know, First Coast has
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  Speaker 1: it's like an all it's all on one, which is
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  Speaker 1: you know, less on the on the children. It creates
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  Speaker 1: a higher conviction rate. And I've always believed that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's our responsibility to make sure that we protect children.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, the offices that are there are very
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  Speaker 1: skilled the the child services, very skilled, the attorneys. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just great people. And it's something that I've
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  Speaker 1: always been involved with and I will continue to always
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  Speaker 1: be involved with. So for me, you know, when I
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  Speaker 1: looked at things, I've always looked at the military. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and I've always looked at um any type of child
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  Speaker 1: advocacy center. I said, wouldn't more coach, Um, you can't
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  Speaker 1: play this leap without being highly competitive. But when I
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  Speaker 1: watch Philip Rivers, I think I'm watching the most competitive
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  Speaker 1: guy in the league. I mean, he wants to. He
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  Speaker 1: just he's got this edge to him. Uh do you
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  Speaker 1: see that in him? Do you still see that in him?
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts and Rivers? You playing for a
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  Speaker 1: smaller market team on the West Coast, people don't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: talk about him as being one of the greats. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: maybe maybe, I mean you might see that here. But obviously, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know when I was you know, played against the charges.
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  Speaker 1: You know, obviously when I was on other teams, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I have known you know, you know Philip
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  Speaker 1: from when he was at NC State and so him there,
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  Speaker 1: and you know the one thing about people that are
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  Speaker 1: competitors is that you know, you may lose some of
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  Speaker 1: your ability as you get older. Uh, and you're hoping
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  Speaker 1: that experience makes up for it. But the one thing
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  Speaker 1: you never lose is that competitiveness. And so you know
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  Speaker 1: Philip is the same. I mean from where he's been.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's an ultra competitive player. And you don't
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  Speaker 1: play for as long as he's has hats played and
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  Speaker 1: and put up the numbers that he has put up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you're not that type of competitive player. UM.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I got a call the other day to
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  Speaker 1: doing something on and Drew in New Orleans, and obviously
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  Speaker 1: I was there in the beginning. And you know that's
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that you know, when I started talking
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  Speaker 1: during this interview that I bring up of of how
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  Speaker 1: competitive he is. And it's just not in the football field,
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  Speaker 1: it's everything. Um, you can't just turn off competitiveness, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, on and off you know you're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: competitive and every single thing you do. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what that's the difference between um, the good and
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  Speaker 1: the great ones. Uh. I gus want to find a
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  Speaker 1: question on mention. Everybody talked all week about the spark.
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  Speaker 1: Do you buy into the spark thing? Is that's something
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  Speaker 1: that can last or is it? At some point, I
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  Speaker 1: guess it just comes down to I guess can you
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  Speaker 1: play or not? Fo me? Yeah, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: that you know, hey, this guy's you know, he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be able to make a play for us, you know
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  Speaker 1: if if you know, hey, if I missed this block
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  Speaker 1: or he gets off the spot, he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to do that. And I think when you get
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  Speaker 1: into that at you know, a lot of the things
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  Speaker 1: that you talk about is, you know, the problem like
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  Speaker 1: when do you take those chances? You know, because obviously
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  Speaker 1: every time you know, you get out of the pocket
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  Speaker 1: or you're looking to extend the play, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when does that clock go off? Say okay, it's not there,
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  Speaker 1: take take it, you know, you know, either take it
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  Speaker 1: down or run for a yard or whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: rather than be exposing yourself for a turnover or throwing
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  Speaker 1: across your body or things of that nature. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think those things, you know, you have to learn
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  Speaker 1: as as you go and have a clock in your mind,
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  Speaker 1: a mental clock, And we talk about that, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit during the week, especially with you know,
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  Speaker 1: if we extend plays and you have guys like you know,
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  Speaker 1: both are and Ingram. You know that can can track
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  Speaker 1: you down that that run just as well as anyone
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  Speaker 1: on the field. So I think that's that's that's uh,
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  Speaker 1: that's something that we have to make sure that we
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  Speaker 1: do a good job of because obviously turnovers, when we've
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  Speaker 1: turned the ball over, we haven't been able to overcome that.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, so we talk about that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit during the week and then talking about
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  Speaker 1: making plays. I think when you look at you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just talked to the team just now, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when we talk about the red zone and scoring touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we've got to figure out a way, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to to win a matchup, you know, to be able
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  Speaker 1: to make it play. But um, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: the spark um, you know, come from you know, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this guy, you know there there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: belief that this guy can make something happen if nothing's there.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's that's what you're saying. He's exciting to watch,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt. All Right, Coach thinks so much for your time.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate appreciate it. Thank you, all right. When we
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars get ready to take on the Chargers this
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  Speaker 1: Sunday home game, then on the road for two weeks,
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  Speaker 1: four or five game too. Yep, it's awful. What's going
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  Speaker 1: on there? John, He's getting together one o'clock is so
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  Speaker 1: much better than four. Yeah, you guys are an optimistic bunch.
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  Speaker 1: This morning game, we're just saying four or five. It's
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  Speaker 1: very late, yeah, very late on a Sunday, but we
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  Speaker 1: will prevail like we always do that. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: do big things. Are you ready? Big Thing one Philip Rivers,
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  Speaker 1: he has completely owned the Jaguars lately, have won six
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  Speaker 1: of the last seven matchups. However, this season he has
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  Speaker 1: struggled with turnovers fifteen this season. I know last week
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  Speaker 1: gives him the conversation. If he doesn't play well last week,
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  Speaker 1: they go to Tyrod Taylor. The question is what Philip
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  Speaker 1: Rivers will show up on Sunday here in Jacksonville. Big
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  Speaker 1: Thing to Gardner Minshew, his opportunity to prove he can
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  Speaker 1: be the franchise guy. It all starts on Sunday, but
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  Speaker 1: it has to happen the next four Sundays. Can he
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  Speaker 1: provide the spark that we've been talking about all week
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  Speaker 1: and prove he can be the franchise guy here going
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  Speaker 1: forward that all starts Sunday. Big Thing three is the
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  Speaker 1: hot seat. We've talked about the hot seat with the
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff. We saw it last week with Nick Foles
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  Speaker 1: on the hot seat and the hot take? Who is
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  Speaker 1: the hot take and the hot seat of the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: fans are talking about on Sunday if the Jaguars lose
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  Speaker 1: five and I think this is a really interesting let's sling,
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  Speaker 1: I will sling it around the yard. I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: forget that Tom Dave Doug, the coaching, the front office.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that. But last week it was Nick
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  Speaker 1: Foles and the replacement came in and gave them a
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: little spark, as you termed it. So who is out
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: there playing for their job this week on the Jaguars? Okay?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: And went down to who you're interested in who menterested
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: well mainly minshow um and in terms of playing for
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the job, I think the reality is if there is change,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: then you're talking about you know, twenty guys and miss
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Rosser not being back. I mean it's massive, anyway more
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: massive than fans believe, but really massive if there's turnover,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: because you've got guys who who a new group wouldn't
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: have brought in. Um, I guess I want to see
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: guys like DJ Shark, d D Westbrook in the last
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: four games. I know what those guys can be I
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if if we have seen them be consistently,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: you know, not the DJ's fallen off, but just well,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: he said, keep the accelerator on towards the end of
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the season. So that we're talking to the offseason about
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: those two guys as receivers you can build around. You
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: would like six seven guys by the end of the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: season to look at maybe each position group. Miles Jack's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna do because he's out now, but some guy
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: at each position group. You've got that to where you
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: have Okay, I like this going for build. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I don't know that you do have that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think you have it in the secondary. I'm actually
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: you have it a linebacker right now. I mean there's
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of spots where you don't have that. That's
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  Speaker 1: a concern. Well, I think you've got it on the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line. I think get it in the offensive backfield.
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  Speaker 1: I think you've got it a wide receiver. I think
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  Speaker 1: you've got a linebacker. I think you've got it a
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  Speaker 1: defensive line. So there's five right, um, And I would
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: have made the case earlier this year, and we're not
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: going to get a chance probably to see Ronnie Harrison
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: back on the field. But you know, an athletic, an
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: extremely long athletic, prototypical size, speed ratio sort of defensive back.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: So if he can return, maybe you have five or
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: six of those guys. Yeah, maybe have a couple. He's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: one of the guys. Frankly, if he was in the field,
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  Speaker 1: I want to see more, exactly, So, I want to
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  Speaker 1: see the one guy that I think is although it's
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: he's not going to draw the fans, ire is a
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: j boye and not because he's not a good player.
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  Speaker 1: Hasn't proven that he's a good player. He's very highly paid.
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  Speaker 1: Next year. He is a sixteen million dollar or nearly
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: sixteen million dollar player who is almost twelve million dollars
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: in savings. So when you start looking at you know
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  Speaker 1: how the cap is constructed and the rebuild that we're
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: talking about here, he's a guy who is playing for
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: his future in Jacksonville and his big number, because let's
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  Speaker 1: face it, he's not going to get that big of
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  Speaker 1: a number anywhere else. That number is reserved for the
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  Speaker 1: highest paid corners in the league, the top performers, and
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: he's not that guy. He was paid from the beginning
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: to come in and be that one A, but not
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the one I'm sorry, one B, not the one A. Um. However,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: if he plays well the last month, hey, I think
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: he's got a chance on a restructured contract depending on
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: who's deciding to be here. I think a J boy
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: is playing for his high salary. Yeah, and I doubt
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: at this point that he'll get that. I'd be surprised
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: if he's back, just because it's very rare for guy
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: to restruct like what we're talking about. But you're absolutely right.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: He's a guy who's playing for his football future. Six
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: and seven year guys, you wonder where they are going forward.
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  Speaker 1: And as you said before, there's a lot of guys
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: who simply won't be back. Go Claius, Marcel uh, you
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: know this is the last month for a lot of
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: good guys, right. And one thing on your first hot take,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: when you mentioned Philip Rivers, please let it be Tyrod Taylor.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: And and it's no knock on Tyrod Taylor, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't care how poorly what mistakes Philip Rivers made in
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the past when he's on the field. If you're down
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: ten with if you're up town the Chargers with seven
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: minutes ago. Do you feel safe? No, And you saw it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And that's what he brings more than a You saw
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: what he did out here in against a good team,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: and of course they were a good team playing at
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: at a much higher level than they are right now. Um,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the Rivers has owned this team in this stadium. He
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: has eleven touchdowns and only three interest options. He's only
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: been sacked three times. Right, and his passion rating is
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: like one eleven something like that. In this stadium. He
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and that's coming across the country. He's played some ten
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: o'clock starts here. Um. I think I've said this before.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: He's my favorite quarterback to watch in the NFL. And
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I know he isn't the best in terms of Tom
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Brady or you know, Deshaun Watson, any of those guys.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: But I just love watching him play. I love the competitiveness.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I love the fact that he doesn't cust at all,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: because I never stopped cussing it seems. Um, I just
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I just He's a great, great guy, great human being,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: great player. I have a strong appreciation for him. That's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: why it was kind of crazy last week when they
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: were stirring up the conversation that they were going to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: go to Tyrod Taylor because I get the turnovers and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I get up in an issue this year. But like
• 21:45
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• 21:47
  Speaker 1: every opponent. I would love to see Tyrone Taylor Philips
• 21:52
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• 21:58
  Speaker 1: like he has um You never feel safe you might
• 22:03
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• 22:04
  Speaker 1: He is the point he did here in his career
• 22:07
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  Speaker 1: be I think the key of the game. UM, Minshew
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  Speaker 1: must be protected. He must be given a chance to
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  Speaker 1: show what he can do from the pocket as opposed
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  Speaker 1: it hasn't been great. Uh, it won't that second right,
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  Speaker 1: it won't play as poorly as it did last week.
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  Speaker 1: Me in the offensive line group five sacks, there would
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  Speaker 1: be a school of thought that yes, it was time
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  Speaker 1: to bench Mint I mean divince Foles four Minshew but
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  Speaker 1: the way that Folds was under pressure, his turnovers could
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  Speaker 1: perceived as Nick's fault. Under pressure for two of them,
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  Speaker 1: maybe under pressure for three of them. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks wouldn't have turned the ball over at
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  Speaker 1: least twice last week it or their circumstances. Um it
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  Speaker 1: might be the strangest group on the team, the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: I mean personality wise, I mean in terms of tough
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  Speaker 1: to figure, and I think we talked about it Monday.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why it hasn't been a dominant, great
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  Speaker 1: unit like you would expect it to be. All of
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  Speaker 1: the pieces seem to be there in spots. Every player
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  Speaker 1: level players. I think if all of them went to
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  Speaker 1: other teams, they'd start on twenty teams. But it just
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  Speaker 1: never seems to be the dominant run blocking line. And
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  Speaker 1: then there also seems to be cases where they give
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  Speaker 1: too many sacks. And I think it's a tricky spot
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  Speaker 1: to try to figure out how to quote fix it
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  Speaker 1: because every guy gives you traits that you like, but
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  Speaker 1: the second pick fixed right. Um, I've told you with
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  Speaker 1: those two picks that the Jags have um quarterback now
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  Speaker 1: is an issue, I think, but I'd take a big
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  Speaker 1: offensive lineman, a big defensive lineman and start trying to
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  Speaker 1: fix myself. So yeah, because you've seen to it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and oh, this has always been a league that has
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  Speaker 1: been won by the guys up front, you know. I
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  Speaker 1: mean the quarterback directs everything. But if you can't win
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  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, you can't win. And the Jaggers
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  Speaker 1: right now aren't winning the line of scrimmage on either
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball. Speaking of a guy who's definitely
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  Speaker 1: one at times is Josh Allen. Yeah. Uh, set the
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  Speaker 1: rookie sack record last week with nine, and I think
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  Speaker 1: he will be a problem for Philip Rivers. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Philip Rivers has had a rotation at left tackle this
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  Speaker 1: year with a couple of different guys. Philip, that's forever
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  Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, remembers the left, the left the tackle
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  Speaker 1: had some medical issues. They lost their starting center, Um,
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  Speaker 1: one of the Pouncy brothers that they signed from Miami.
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  Speaker 1: Um that's been a problem. And so I think Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen will be in his face all day long. So
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  Speaker 1: there won't in this is He probably won't get him
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  Speaker 1: to the ground. He doesn't get sack off. Um Jaggers
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  Speaker 1: only sacked him nine times in eight games. He's got
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  Speaker 1: a quick release. He's a big guy now, he's six six,
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  Speaker 1: he's two hundred and fifty pounds. He's you know, he
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  Speaker 1: is a very difficult guy to get on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Um and Alan might though, over the final four games,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: pick up another four sacks. I don't know that he
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: gets one this week, but I have a feeling he's
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: going to end up with the second most sacks in
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Jaguars history. One is obviously Calais Campbell at fourteen and
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: a half, and two is is a tie between Tony
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Brackens and a Unique and Gothway, who each have had
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  Speaker 1: a twelve sacks season. I have a feeling he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna thrust his name into that conversation and finish
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: with thirteen where he might get that if they could
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  Speaker 1: get one game where the wheels come off for the opponent. Um,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: he's sort of that guy. Uh if you remember the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Tennessee game where they got nine sacks, which seems so
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: long ago. Um, when it starts to get sort of crazy,
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  Speaker 1: he's a guy who can. It's why I think at
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: some point he might be a seventeen eighteen sack guy,
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  Speaker 1: because he's that guy who gives the maximum efford. He's
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: got the athleticism, and he's the kind of guy who
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: can pick up three in the fourth quarter just because
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: the other team has to throw scramble. He's always going
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to be going. He's certainly that guy. What I wonder is, well,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: they have enough leads to get what you're talking about.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Beyond that, he's certainly capable of doing it right. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't never lead it all last week and he
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: got one. Right. Why does mean like a two or
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  Speaker 1: three sack game where you get them now where you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about? Uh, those usually come when you're leading. They're
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  Speaker 1: looking for that this week. Yeah, I've been looking for
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  Speaker 1: as it is, what it is m he will, he won't,
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  Speaker 1: He might. You know this guy, Gardner Minshoe, he will
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  Speaker 1: be an improvement from what we have seen. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying Nick Fole is a bad quarterback. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying we know the future of Nick Foles in the
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  Speaker 1: franchise quarterback for this team. Right now, with the state
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  Speaker 1: He is the answer at this moment. He won't be perfect.
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  Speaker 1: a little bit last night. I'm feeling good about it.
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  Speaker 1: I've even got my white elephant gift. So you're really
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  Speaker 1: out of the park. Yeah, I haven't started. I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't figure you guys had. That's why I was.
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  Speaker 1: That's why up better person than us, not a better
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: person doing better on whoa careful there? That is hyperbole
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: to the extreme. A better person. But that's not why
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: John John John Chiefs the Patriots tell me about it, Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's uh, it's a fascinating game because normally it wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: feel big, but Chiefs Patriots. At this point, if the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs win this, if they go into fox Words, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they will. But all of a sudden, the
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Patriots look remarkably vulnerable. They would have had two straight
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: losses to two teams that they could face in the playoffs. Now,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: none of that would mean that I don't think they
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: could come back and win those games in the playoffs.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: That's kind of team they are. But if they lose this,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: remember I think Buffalo is one game back. If the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Patriots lose this, they still have a game against Buffalo
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: at some point, all of a sudden, for the first
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: time in what since, like nineteen thirty four, the a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: f C East would be up for abs going into December. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking the Patriots WI win the game against
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Buffalo and make it a nonentity. But the Patriots, I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: still believe in them, but they seem vulnerable and nobody
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: would be surprised if the Chiefs went in and one.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I think Chiefs do go in and win. I think
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: this is this when DeShawn Watson, you think they're done,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: You're putting a fork in New England stabbing him. No.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'll beat the Bills. They'll come back and
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: they'll have the monument. But I think that the Chiefs
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: will not come back and make that an important game.
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  Speaker 1: I watched a bit of the game. I rarely do
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: watch money night football and you know, the primetime games
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and stay up and watch it, but I watched and
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: watched the Shawn Watson just kind of pick it up
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  Speaker 1: for that was a defense the Patriots. They had given
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: a four passing touchdowns all season, and they gave up
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: four in that game. I think maybe that defense is
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: worn down a bit, they having to do too much. Um.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs knocked him all. But that's why
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's so fascinating. Usually the Patriots after a
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: game like what you're talking, they rebound, they come back
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  Speaker 1: and as they go off the air, they and you're saying, well,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the Patriots are bad, you know. I mean, that's usually
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: what they do. If they don't do it this time,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're looking at and feeling
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: very long, is it finally over? Yeah? And the wicked
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Witch really did? I don't. I just can't believe it
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: to us it that I agree with that. Go ahead,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I take them long enough, you go ahead. Well, I'm
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be real simple. I have the Seahawks at the Rams. Hey, look,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Jalen ramsay Ghosteahawks. Just leave it at that, that's your analysis.
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  Speaker 1: Look at him standing up straight with that bad he
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: looks healthy for him. Time for the Rams to lose
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: It's good to see the drag position. I'm not sure
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling Hawks are enough pummeling that's safe
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: to say. But as long as as long as Jalen
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: comes out of healthy. I didn't say I wanted to
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: get hurt. I want them to lose Ghostea Hawks. Health
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: is what matters, and that is one healthy man, healthy
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  Speaker 1: football players. Let's go Ravens at Bills. Interesting because this
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  Speaker 1: game is in Buffalo. Buffalo is not an easy place
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  Speaker 1: to play, especially in December. Bill S're one of the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: most underrated teams right now. They have a chance to
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: be the one seed in the playoffs if they beat
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the Ravens. Right now, give me the Bills in this
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: because I think the Ravens are a better football team.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: But with this game in Buffalo, they also have nine
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: days of rest because they played on Thanksgiving Day. They
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: haven't played in nine days to prepare for this game.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Give me the Bills. Yeah, at some point, you know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: the Ravens have beaten a lot of good teams and
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: rams the Bills are the kind of team. They can
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: give them trouble on the road. I don't know how
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: much elements will play in to play with Lamar Jackson.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: But at some point it stands reasons the Ravens are
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: gonna drop one because they've had such a tough schedule.
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  Speaker 1: This seems like one. If it's this one, boy, wouldn't
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: the Bills have come out of nowhere? Right? And three
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: weeks ago no one was talking about the Bills, although
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it's fair to point out that two years ago they
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: were systematically with the new GM and with John McDermott
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: just dismantling the franchise. I mean, the Jaguars benefited because
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Marcel Darius came here and they've used those picks in
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: the time to put themselves in a position now to
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: have a team that looks like it's going to be
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: a winner for a couple of years, sustainable. Good for them,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Good for them. And that is pick one and pick it.
• 39:30
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