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58: approach and top the interior design board exam without pressure and overwhelm with IDLE topnotcher IDr. Andrea · Mindset Magic with Mika

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  Hi Andrea, welcome to the Mindset Magic with Mika podcast
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  and thank you so much for being here.
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  Our Yeah, our top 9, Our top 9 from You're Literally 23.
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  Yeah, yeah. Thank you for having me.
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  I'm so happy to be here and see you again.
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  Yeah, like it's our catch up friend.
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  This is just an. Excuse.
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  Exactly. Exactly.
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  All right, so let's start by getting to know you so they know
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  what angle you're coming from for this exam strategy.
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  So can you intro yourself? What are you working on now?
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  And and the youngest among my love about you.
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  Sure I can. Can I name drop my company?
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  Is that okay? Yeah, if it's OK with your
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  company too. I hope it's OK.
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  Did others? Did some okay, no problem.
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  Welcome to Mindset Magic with Nika, where we unlock clarity,
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  courage, confidence, creativity, and connection so you can show
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  up as their most expressed, most aligned, most unstoppable self.
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  If you are ready to shift into your main character energy and
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  design our life that feels as good as it looks, you're in the
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  right place. I'm Mika Doria, your interior
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  designer, your Mindset Magic news branding goddess.
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  Let's dive in. So hi, my name is Andrea.
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  I know Mika through school. We both went to UP Diliman
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  together and we studied interior design together.
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  We graduated at the same time and we took the first time you
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  took her boards. We were taking it the same time,
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  right? I know that after that I found a
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  job so I working now under design HQ.
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  Usually are are scale of work. It focuses a lot more on
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  amenities so think lobbies, condo, that kind of stuff.
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  But occasionally we do do mostly residential projects.
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  Hmm. Yes.
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  And Elle, wow, ohh, I'm surprised that you're working on
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  the mostly commercial projects that I know.
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  Ohh. But before all that, what made
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  you pursue interior design like movement?
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  Now you're like, OK, this is for me.
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  Hmm. Good question.
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  For me, honestly, I never dreamed of becoming an interior
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  designer even when I was in school.
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  I don't know if you had the same experience, Mika Pero.
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  I always felt like, ohh, it's a good marriage of art and design.
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  And at the time I really thought now I don't know if I have what
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  it takes to be completely arts. So I thought this is a good safe
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  route. Now, even though it's artsy,
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  it's still technical. So even though I'm not
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  particularly passionate about it, I think not, it's a good
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  combination of what I think is stable and what I think is fun.
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  Ohh, that's such a good perspective.
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  But I remember some of us really thought now, ohh yeah, it's a
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  good balancing art and science and all that.
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  Right. And I remember not understand
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  Andrea here is an artist and illustrator.
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  Did that also affect your decision to pursue ID?
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  Definitely, I mean, I'm not not one to claim myself as an artist
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  federal. I definitely thought not.
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  I'm going to do this for the rest of my life.
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  It has to at least be connected to our Even though now that I'm
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  actually in it, of course, fieldwork is a lot different
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  from what you're learning school.
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  Yeah, but at least parang, at the end of a long turn of
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  events, you're presented with basically a work of art, you
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  know, long. It takes so much longer to
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  produce. That's so true, and lots of
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  boundaries. Yes.
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  Compared to just free flow or trim, Save that.
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  So now, since you said now, okay, it's a marriage of art and
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  technicals. Have you always known?
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  No, there's gonna be a licensure exam.
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  In the beginning I think yes, because some people they jump
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  into it now ohh I take I because archy something or something
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  similar to that kind of mindset petrol for me, when I was really
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  thinking of what to take in college, I really was lost.
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  I was like, hello, what do I take?
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  I say I want to take something artistic, but I don't think I
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  have what it takes to go full on art.
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  So I really thought now, ohh, I be it's I, I think a big reason
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  why I chose idea above all the others is really the existence
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  of the board exam. Ohh I like that now you know now
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  from the start trend. Right.
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  I mean, obviously the exam to be honest, it doesn't dictate that
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  much, but it puts a stamp on your ID within the man I have.
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  I kind of Kumbaga you. You were able to get all the
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  Infinity stones, not enough your ID.
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  That's. Right.
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  Completion SO it turned it sounds like the side that cannot
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  Alagana you're gonna take the board exam as early as choosing
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  it Palomino for college. Yeah, for me at least, yeah.
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  Ohh why did you decide to take the licensure exam immediately,
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  Tamano? Immediately.
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  Yes, immediately. I don't know how honest.
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  How how honest can I be with you Mika on if we're looking for the
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  completely honest answer. Do alcohol Maghanap Najib really
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  like at the time and yeah, I don't know, I guess it's the
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  timing of events. We had a we thankfully we had a
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  face to face grad, but honestly before that we spent most of our
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  college online. And not to not to fault the
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  professor any particular system, but I felt like education
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  online, especially design that's so hard to teach already in a
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  face to face. When it became online, it felt
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  so linear in the pattern improve go another place.
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  They will give comment right next task next next next task.
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  But not too late to lay long. So I guess when I graduate, when
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  we graduated, it felt like huh, did I do I feel like reading
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  about homework job and obviously person to person.
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  If you feel like you'll learn more by immediately taking a
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  job, that's valid for me. Thankfully, I, I was like, I was
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  considering the not well, considering my family background
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  and our income, I was like, well, I have the privilege to
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  man to take a break. That's kind of take a step back
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  and we think about where we want, what we want to do, what's
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  our next step. So I took a break and then
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  that's when I started reviewing. It's like a gap year.
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  Read No. Yes, almost like a gap year.
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  It got me gap. Can I ask why you suddenly
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  started that? Why you decided to take it right
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  after grad? Okay, I took a gap year in case
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  was doing something different in between no longer interior
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  design classes nothing like I do branding on the side and all
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  that about alright yeah yeah like for clients.
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  So after the graduation, I'm like, we what do I really want
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  to pursue? Why don't you people obvious
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  next step Sai new word exam. I was really like distracted
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  during the gap year, but that's not an excuse period.
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  You made the gap. You're very productive.
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  Ohh yeah that thing there is button on the side people for my
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  first take and see how it ended. Yeah well so would you say now
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  full time review Ishka? No, before the board exam.
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  Ohh yeah, definitely. Of course that's a privilege to
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  say champagne and other people, they don't.
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  They want to earn money while they're study, so they have to
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  have their time between reviewing and work.
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  For me, I really emphasise now this is a privileged point of
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  view. Now I had the chance to really
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  focus on studying. Hmm, that's nice.
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  Now you took a step back because it's also hard when you come
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  into the exam to sobrang occupied more and like you know
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  why you're even like taking it in the first place.
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  So right, I think in the new one of the main reasons was I knew
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  that if I didn't so don't go, go, go now, full review.
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  And then if the gutter and I don't pass, I will it'll more or
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  less, but then it will haunt me the parent.
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  Is it because Nico Pinahirapan at least at least if like you
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  know, forest going first try and by chance I didn't pass.
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  I can tell myself now. Ohh I tried my best gets hurt
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  but I'm if I if I had focused on other things at the time while
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  studying I think the doubt will kind of haunt me in the parang
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  Allah. Is it because of this or is it
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  because like if there are too many factors involved, I think I
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  would it would have like really kept me up at night.
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  Now, is it me? Is it the timing?
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  Is it the test you are going to? Really like that you mentioned
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  that because I I did have that that phase after the first take
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  and I'm like wait, what did I do wrong?
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  And then I. Right.
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  Yeah, because I was putting it on the side.
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  Using an apron, at least if you do it, you really dedicate all
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  your time. If you can, you'll be like,
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  well, I really did my best instead of like, it will start a
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  kind of spiral, where did I go wrong?
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  And then you have to dissect every little thing.
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  You'll start over thinking. That's true.
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  I like Mayo. Came into it wholehearted
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  talaga. I think it's a big factory
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  volume down, things will happen. And she braved Guillermo then.
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  That's great. That means now.
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  Ohh. Wow, you, you really know how to
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  manage your time, manage your energy barrel from Azad
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  Overthinker. I'm sure you can relate, Mika.
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  We need to take things one at a time to Logan up around.
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  I'll give it all my all. And if it doesn't work out, you
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  know, at least it's this thing is less sharp.
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  Yeah, since I grew up in with anime and all, and then there's
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  so much motivation there. I really get where you're coming
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  from, Andre. So much better to say now.
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  I just tried knowing that you're really put everything out there
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  went all in versus the bottom 5% Mulan and you'd be like I tried.
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  Yeah. Different energy.
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  So what does it look like? Palal Like since you came into
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  the review, enter the exam not wholehearted.
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  How was it for you when you were preparing for the exam?
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  Did you start early review? Did you start late?
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  Hmm, I guess thinking about it now, there's a benefit in to
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  have hurting because I guess like I said, this thing will be
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  less sharp, better for me talaga.
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  I told myself if I can afford to be a little early and really
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  take the time to prepare, I'll do it.
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  So in my case, I enrolled in sidebar like you, yeah.
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  Yeah. I'm not sure.
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  I took actually premium and it started I think late January,
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  right, a little earlier, late January or early February so
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  much. Ohh.
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  For some people, honestly, I kind of agree.
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  Now it's a little too long. I do feel like some, yeah, I
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  don't know, a Pedro. Plus I felt like super duper,
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  this is a little too long. And then you get one class
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  Pangolin Dominance time, especially for subjects like
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  Andaman damage history. Exactly.
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  So why don't you back so bring. So I started early part of my
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  day-to-day process cause if you enroll incident, was it everyday
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  young zoom class? I don't really remember, not
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  quite. Sure.
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  I don't remember name Pedro. I mentioned a morning or
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  afternoon choice. Yeah.
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  Ohh. So I thought I think I took
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  morning class. So I think it would end around
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  lunchtime. So at least the rest of the day
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  is mine to do whatever I want. But I usually when we would have
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  morning class, I would not really study.
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  Now after that I'm a big advocate of active note taking
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  at the time talaga. I don't know some people, they
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  like to focus on the lecture and they don't do anything except
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  absorb all the lectures going on.
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  I'll write them my reviewer additional notes.
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  And then the only time I really started self review was I think
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  a month before the exam. So before that it was just
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  adding notes to my reviewer and like passive reading right?
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  It'll only it does only I think June or maybe late May now I did
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  ohh everyday. I really need to cram all this
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  information in. Wow, Yeah, I don't know for me
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  because I, I mean, when it reached me, you've at some point
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  at least scanned through some of your notes so you're not
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  completely empty now. But then cause I knew now if I
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  tried to todo review like everyday, I'm going to set a
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  schedule for this. If I, if I started that routine
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  too early, I knew I would forget it by the time the the the exam
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  came around. I was like, there's no point in
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  exhausting energy in another from Maxis diet now active
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  review, and then I'm just gonna forget it, probably by the time
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  July rolls around. Is this based on your anabolic
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  experience learning strategy even in College Park?
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  Yes. Ohh.
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  Okay, I don't know, it got me good.
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  You have a study style. I study style, I like taking
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  notes and like, I really believe now we really have to maximise
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  sometime nothing when we're in that call, the hours or
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  anything. Yeah.
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  And then after that, you're gonna double it if you watch the
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  replay and just take notes during that time, saying your
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  time. Exactly.
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  So I also did what you did like really taking notes as it goes.
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  No first people I reason why you know in my second take I didn't
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  really open the module snap aside from trauma yeah, it's
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  because I already learned it like you've no taking and just
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  carry new higher subjects. So no second take.
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  So wow, so active. No taking risks, right Presents.
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  For some people it doesn't work like well for some people they
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  prefer in a ohh I'll just kind of sit in class and listen girl
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  for me while long. I feel like I'm floating.
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  And then exactly like at least when you know take it's very
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  it's organic pero you get a lot of the details you you would
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  miss otherwise. And it also double s cause you
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  already have notes but your notes became like an upgrade
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  letting you notes small so that if you want to do more passive
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  reading later you have a very. Comprehensive.
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  Yeah, right. Thinking you're basis or your
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  reference is very sound. Yes, and it gives you that
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  confidence right now. Ohh they mentioned this and they
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  got to jot it down. Ohh yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  It must be important. They were usually, you know,
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  things that really would come out there, in my experience.
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  Right, like Manson fucking class and then when you decide to do
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  like hardcore studying, you'll be like nothing important detail
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  anything referencing here. So you might as well go big or
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  go home. So on the hand, by doing and
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  it's not even that basking, it's just you take notes and you take
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  notes down. You don't have to understand
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  everything, just take notes of everything.
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  Yeah, and like the good thing there if you dedicated young
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  time Lyon now reviewing and like watching them in real time,
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  energy needed to like start that momentum again.
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  Exactly. You don't need to review a lot
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  more. Oh, oh, I like that.
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  I know the so you see now in a pattern in your study technique
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  that really help you retain young carers and terms
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  effectively. So how about them threaded
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  design portion? Exam premium class?
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  They have speed drafting for the design portion.
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  I think. I think the premium doesn't have
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  speed drafting. Speed drafting is additional
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  glass if I remember correctly. That's why I don't know if she
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  will listen to this if it if it's up to me.
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  I don't think premium is worth it cause I I the difference
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  between premium and regular long Inc That is you have a
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  consultation period. You have like more chances to
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  consult with props and honest about what the anything you can
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  ask about tips you can ask about questions you are going and
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  well, honestly, if if you're Bebo in glass and you're willing
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  to ask questions, but but on the premium going to ring.
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  So really great. It doesn't really not a big
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  difference because I they don't speed drafting.
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  It was another additional class. It was not connected to premium
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  for me. Did did speed drafting help?
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  It did, but for me, because I think the timeline of events was
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  the speed drafting classes started actually earlier than
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  the premium class. So I I honestly.
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  This is this might be a case to case or a personal thing Better.
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  It happened too early for me now, but only spent a week
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  retraining your hand in. Drafting.
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  Only around the week and it happened so early.
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  It happened I think they January, right?
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  So by the time now we started really practicing more towards
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  the end of the the review school process, the parang, the
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  restart, the renew reflexes go. So I do think that, well for me,
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  I guess it's just the timing on the timing.
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  I like that you mentioned that kissing a lot are all also Rina.
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  Is it too early to late? Better.
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  There's a really peace for it, you know, and.
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  Yeah, I think honestly the boards really made me realise
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  now you need to know what works for you.
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  A lot of people didn't ask me now.
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  Ohh. Did you study everyday?
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  Did you do this? And I'm like, I can tell you
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  everything I did better then there's no, there's little
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  point, right? That's true.
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  No disulfiram. I was like in the preface of
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  this board exam special. They can really just take what
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  resonates because at the end of the day it's self mastery.
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  They're like picking the exam, yeah, but on these are glimpses
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  of strategies they can try, and if it works for them, that's
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  great. Great, great, great, because you
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  can see that if so. So.
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  Really. Really.
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  Yeah. For the yes, yes, yes.
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  I know what are you going to. Say, I was going to ask Anna if
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  because I don't know if we have the same study style.
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  Mika Pero I like rewriting and really jotting.
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  That's how I study it. Like I I do active note taking
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  in the beginning and then when it was time to really hardcore
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  study. I love rewriting.
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  I don't know, that could just be me.
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  Rewrite everything Canon. Not not exactly where I love.
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  Like I love reading and rewriting.
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  So for me, I want to do that, I need to do a active note taking
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  talaga Faro. If that's not your style, then
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  maybe you would find benefit in another kind of way of studying.
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  So it's really just what works for you.
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  And then another thing is retention.
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  I guess everyone has different levels of retention.
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  I knew now if I study too early, if I practice too early, more by
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  the time the exam comes by. So you and I think the important
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  thing is you can take notes from other people on how they were
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  able to cram all the info. How to cram all the info is up
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  to you I think. Hello 1 size fits all.
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  Night. But at the end of it, towards
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  the end of the review season, Parang, there's this nagging
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  feeling paranoid. Ohh.
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  Maybe it's not enough. Yeah, no matter how much your
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  review, really. So just mastering along yes, I
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  think that's normal. I don't think it'll ever come
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  well from me. I, I, I don't really have that
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  kind of level of confidence now I, I'm sure I can do it because
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  I'm going to I'm not like that day.
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  So really just know what know what works best for you and then
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  with the time you're given that your best.
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  And your best Speaking of primary given Dubai young design
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  portion in the exam like it takes up an entire day.
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  So how was your preparation leading up to it?
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  Bush recreation for the design, the dreaded data logger.
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  Yeah, I try to be prepared. At the time, I think because we
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  weren't sure then if Magandang table or if my chair, right.
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  So I I brought a mini table in case I brought a mini chair in.
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  Really. Even a.
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  Chair Yeah, yeah. So you try to be prepared.
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  And then on the day itself, I try to be like, OK, if I'm
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  hungry, I'll have I have a snack now my toothache.
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  Ohh, no, that's yeah, that is smart.
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  Better. Honestly, he could, you know,
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  comma, I don't know. You just got one Anything.
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  Ohh like if I was really feeling really hungry I was like ohh
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  cry. I didn't go though I can do it.
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  And you didn't wanna come in. Baby ohh I still eat and like
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  took my time. That's good.
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  I don't know. I.
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  Feel like without eating? Actually killed myself not but I
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  need to eat. I cannot not eat Pedro.
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  I guess in the moment I was so scared.
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  Nah, I just I could not find myself reaching into my bag.
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  Books Andover time for that. Did you finish everything back?
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  Completed the sheets. Ohh, super Galeko, I completed
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  everything bare minimum. Now you dimensions, school block
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  and then your Mama pinnacle major dimensions, if any, and
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  then very, very basic call out. And then I think at the time I
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  really did my last trip was young spec sheet.
• 26:19
  I thought there was a requirement I knew not Okay,
• 26:26
  there's no point in making the spec sheet beautiful, so I will
• 26:29
  leave that for last and then kidnap the the lines I wrote are
• 26:34
  not Pantai Pantai. I can write everything I need.
• 26:39
  They need from me. That's that's really what I'm
• 26:42
  gonna do. What about the perspective?
• 26:49
  The you got me good. Did you marker or did you
• 26:55
  watercolor? Ohh I like watercolor to like
• 27:00
  colour pencil. Wow.
• 27:06
  He's a masturbating families. Yeah.
• 27:12
  So what are your marker tips for the perspective Parasomnia
• 27:16
  marker marker takers gents, market takers markers?
• 27:21
  Stands. Yeah, marker stands.
• 27:23
  I would say, well, firstly, if you can't do marker, we're gonna
• 27:29
  push. I'd say that federal, I think,
• 27:32
  cause each medium, obviously they have their own benefits.
• 27:35
  I seriously, I really considered doing watercolor.
• 27:41
  I, I had a game many are rough game plans and Michael, if I
• 27:44
  want to colour a really big space, for example, Malacanang
• 27:49
  ball in a call in one colour. I, I told myself, now I'm gonna
• 27:53
  water colour that cause I'm British and watercolor in
• 27:56
  covering a big expanse. If you're gonna marker 1 wall,
• 28:00
  you're going to do like it's a it's a, it will take too much
• 28:05
  time. So I guess at least in my head I
• 28:08
  told myself not okay for really big surfaces I should consider
• 28:12
  doing watercolor and then for you Mama must detailed stuff,
• 28:17
  I'll do marker cause one swipe no marker it's already coloured.
• 28:22
  You don't need to add. Keep adding on for for build up
• 28:26
  non colour you know. So you're combined your water
• 28:29
  colour and marker. In my head there was the idea
• 28:33
  that in the head, like I said on the design day, I was so
• 28:38
  rattled. Nah, I told myself, no, I don't
• 28:41
  want to get up to get water. Now.
• 28:44
  I will just mark her all the way.
• 28:46
  And thankfully, if I remember correctly, I didn't need to call
• 28:51
  her a really big expansive watercolor.
• 28:53
  So it, it was it, it worked out fine.
• 28:56
  The one I guess. Do you have tips for making like
• 29:02
  a really good visual impact? But the things are perspectives
• 29:06
  in that just want Michael Patella marker marker even in my
• 29:14
  student life along when they made us try long and I'm like,
• 29:18
  yeah, I'm gonna water colour. Actually engendering
• 29:23
  watercolour. I think the big benefit of
• 29:25
  watercolour it can look unfinished and it still looks
• 29:28
  intentional. That's the thing.
• 29:32
  Right if Margaret Ankita right. So tips for marker?
• 29:40
  I'd say 4 big surfaces if you can.
• 29:42
  A watercolor mana. You don't need to spend time
• 29:46
  filling in the surface. The Panama broke some.
• 29:48
  Workers. Right, an accent colour mobile,
• 29:52
  it's just one wall it water colour money.
• 29:54
  And if you can for the other things, what they call or I for
• 30:00
  marker, I'd say focus on the most important pieces.
• 30:04
  You need to establish what's your accent and what do you
• 30:07
  really need to highlight. And I will say, if time allows
• 30:13
  you, please spare your marker with colour pencil.
• 30:17
  Also. This will bring flat marker.
• 30:21
  You will get the colour you want, but it will look fat.
• 30:25
  Ohh yeah. So if time permits you and if
• 30:28
  you have if you find yourself now you have extra time white
• 30:31
  highlights you're gonna just so that it looks like all this
• 30:35
  person they rushed it better or at least they you can at least
• 30:40
  understand all this one. It's supposed to be Metallica
• 30:42
  semi shine it on my wood grain so you know it.
• 30:46
  It's important to convey the material color.
• 30:52
  Would you say in a mobility perspective, rendering included?
• 31:00
  Billy's, I'm not sure if I did it first or last.
• 31:05
  I think I did it second to the last and then last to Lagayan
• 31:09
  specs. Well, second to the last.
• 31:11
  Yeah, cause some people they prefer doing the perspective
• 31:15
  first because they're like either I'll do it first knowing
• 31:21
  me so you bought online then the guys knowing yourself.
• 31:24
  Yeah. For me, I knew that if I if I
• 31:29
  did the perspective first, I will waste too much time.
• 31:34
  I say if I if I going to, I think the first thing I did as I
• 31:40
  usually do is concept because that's kind of an excuse not in
• 31:43
  while you're writing a concept. Thankfully for me I'm English
• 31:47
  era naman. So.
• 31:49
  Again, like I can make up a, a write up quite quickly.
• 31:55
  So what I'm writing that, but I'm, I'm thinking about, okay,
• 31:58
  what do we do with the perspective pending design?
• 32:01
  Not, And so I always start with the concept or at least the
• 32:05
  design direction. And then I'll use, I'll do you
• 32:09
  know, standard sheets. Like I'll do floor plan for plan
• 32:12
  for resident RCP, whatever they need.
• 32:15
  And then I do perspective second to the last cause I, I knew.
• 32:18
  Now if I do perspective first, I'll get too caught up in the
• 32:22
  details. It would be like some people
• 32:24
  they do by this time after we doing this and I try doing that
• 32:28
  Pearl honesty in the moment. Even if you give yourself a time
• 32:32
  limit. There are like invisible goals
• 32:36
  in your head. Eight to two, 2:00 now like I
• 32:42
  have the tendency in 10 minutes more and then after 10 minutes,
• 32:46
  15 minutes more. So when you know, I'm going to
• 32:50
  be overly nitpicky with this perspective.
• 32:52
  So let's put it last so that I have no choice but to be very
• 32:55
  minimal. You know the. *** Because.
• 33:00
  They are for you. You're not Naka time block.
• 33:04
  Yeah. Yeah, parent target time cause
• 33:07
  actually no first Taco I took like almost two hours for the
• 33:11
  design concept and I'm like. Ohh my gosh.
• 33:13
  Goodbye and they did it first doesn't like wait long enough.
• 33:19
  And so I on my second take, I really focused on suspect
• 33:24
  drafting skills come mostly. So I ended up doing two
• 33:29
  perspectives in under 3040 minutes for the second take off
• 33:33
  now cause I really cut it down. Top was 30 minutes long design
• 33:37
  concept. Like I really followed through
• 33:41
  your limit. Now I set in the second Techna
• 33:44
  cause I got like so so frustrated by like a 2 hour
• 33:48
  design concept really. Robbie.
• 33:53
  They have tips for the concept making skills.
• 33:57
  Concept making, I will say, I think at least in review school,
• 34:03
  what they really emphasised in the concept is highlight what
• 34:08
  you're going to do and how you're going to present it.
• 34:11
  So you can start with Humana stereotypical, you know, college
• 34:16
  level, the concept board. Now you can give a very
• 34:20
  avant-garde title. I don't think they really care
• 34:24
  about that in the board exam. I think they just so understand.
• 34:29
  I don't know. For me, in the concept I I
• 34:34
  usually use the concept making as a time to make a game plan.
• 34:39
  So not only are you telling the people who are going to check
• 34:42
  your test what you're gonna do, you're also kind of giving
• 34:45
  yourself notes what you're going to do.
• 34:48
  So in the concept I try to prepare some in advance.
• 34:52
  Very vague. The parang ohh, I can do you
• 34:56
  very Welland kamatayan 3 of obviously don't do three.
• 35:00
  Everyone does 3 already. You know like you need to have
• 35:05
  some okay, I have this idea. The more vibrant if, if they are
• 35:11
  requiring a more vibrant approach, I can do cognate
• 35:16
  mascara festival, you know, something like that.
• 35:19
  Something vague enough that it can work for multiple scenarios,
• 35:24
  but it also has personality for them.
• 35:26
  You smell right up. I guess like I said, you need to
• 35:30
  tell the people who are going to check your test what you're
• 35:33
  going to do and how you're going to present it.
• 35:35
  Because you'll say I want to make the space feel open and
• 35:41
  spacious, but then you don't really explain how you're going
• 35:43
  to do it. So you need to say, no, I want
• 35:46
  the space to feel natural. And then you can explain the
• 35:51
  Padang. I'll use an open floor concept
• 35:53
  and I'll use a lot of natural materials.
• 35:56
  And then in line with my mascara festival, I'll use local
• 36:02
  textiles, I'll use bright colours.
• 36:04
  You know, you need to explain. And then when explaining that,
• 36:08
  great, it's good then because you explained to the test taker
• 36:13
  now. And then as they hopefully as
• 36:18
  they read it, they'll be like, OK, Parana, reflecting the
• 36:21
  Manhattan goals. Yeah, all of the goals are.
• 36:26
  It's also telling yourself now it's doing approach nothing.
• 36:29
  This is how we're going to approach the rest of the design
• 36:31
  while you're working on the other sheets.
• 36:35
  Well, that's really smart, like how you broke it down because it
• 36:38
  is sometimes we get caught up in is subjective to it.
• 36:41
  What do they like? But like, yeah, your end.
• 36:43
  It's like what would I be doing? How do I want it to about to be
• 36:48
  presented? What do I want them to expect?
• 36:50
  So the control is in what you write.
• 36:55
  Yeah, And then if you don't want them to focus on something, then
• 36:58
  don't mention it, you know? Yeah, that's a good one, Finance
• 37:02
  Mommy. I say you you set your
• 37:05
  expectation. You set their expectations
• 37:07
  really high. Or saying I want the space to
• 37:09
  feel like this, like this and like that.
• 37:11
  But then you don't really explain how Mamaya expect Milan
• 37:14
  and I I was expecting this space to feel so grand.
• 37:18
  And then, because you didn't explain how you were going to do
• 37:20
  it, miss proportion your expectation than.
• 37:25
  That yeah, like they don't have a metric and right inside the
• 37:29
  natural and you endeavour that's.
• 37:31
  Yeah. I wish I knew that though cause
• 37:35
  I feel like it would levelled up the way now I got the
• 37:38
  communication conceptual and the perspective like that.
• 37:45
  This this I know. Do you still use that approach
• 37:48
  or thinking whenever you approach projects can?
• 37:53
  Honestly, I can't really say that I use it in work because I,
• 37:58
  yeah, in the exam. Well, I think this is not to go
• 38:02
  into a separate discussion, but I do think one of the flaws in
• 38:06
  the IDP exam, it assesses too much your principles, which I
• 38:10
  don't think in the real world matters that much because when
• 38:15
  you think about it, UMA containing design, it doesn't
• 38:18
  really matter like how you got there, obviously when you're
• 38:22
  talking about clients, but they don't really care.
• 38:25
  So in work, I'll say now you can use that approach.
• 38:31
  It will help you in a pattern or the client wants this vibe.
• 38:34
  How are we going to get there prior to the extent now, do you
• 38:37
  need to write up? Do you need to really step by
• 38:39
  step understand how we're going to achieve this aspect, that
• 38:43
  aspect? I don't think so.
• 38:44
  We're in the board exam cause at least if you set your own
• 38:48
  rubric, they'll know what to check.
• 38:52
  Yeah, in work they don't really care that they focus a lot on
• 38:55
  the the end product. It's not so much in the board
• 39:00
  exam. So parang that that's really
• 39:04
  good because in the board exam parang, it just really shows how
• 39:08
  prepared you can be as an interior designer.
• 39:11
  And I think it's just important that they see how you approach
• 39:15
  things and if you can solve it with Devar, with the four years
• 39:20
  now you've been learning ID for more.
• 39:23
  Right. It's really long, so let's not
• 39:27
  let's jump to the timeline now. Ohh.
• 39:31
  It's the waiting period after the exam.
• 39:36
  How was your waiting period during that time?
• 39:39
  Did you know when you were gonna pass?
• 39:41
  Now is there are no OHH. Mika, you you you of all people.
• 39:45
  Like I was telling the but we have GC.
• 39:50
  See, I I felt like I was gonna feel legit.
• 39:54
  Oh my God. I don't know, but I'm champagne.
• 39:57
  Well, for context for the people who might be listening, we had
• 40:01
  their exam in the hotel. So some of our classmates, they
• 40:04
  had, they booked in the hotel. So they were after the exam,
• 40:07
  they would go to their hotel room and then we would discuss
• 40:10
  mean Sunday back. Yeah.
• 40:12
  I don't know when when they were discussing their answers, I felt
• 40:15
  like. So I I got really in my head
• 40:18
  about ohh, my goodness, am I going to fail?
• 40:21
  I really don't know. And then what?
• 40:25
  At the time I really felt like holla when they were discussing
• 40:28
  their answers. It's quite different from mine.
• 40:31
  And then I knew not for me, because I I knew that design.
• 40:38
  I knew that from Baleka will be through multiple choice so it
• 40:43
  really rattled me. I really didn't think I was
• 40:46
  going to pass the baton haha. I told myself no multiple choice
• 40:52
  parent and then versus what I wrote.
• 40:57
  So at the time I really didn't. I didn't have an inkling that
• 41:01
  ohh, I feel like I'm gonna pass Wala talaga is very, very
• 41:05
  unexpected. Now when they were revealed the
• 41:08
  ipass. Interesting guess is some would
• 41:12
  say that they already know that they were gonna pass so great
• 41:17
  they know they're gonna fail. Really.
• 41:19
  That I like that you're in the in between?
• 41:21
  Really. No, this is very against your
• 41:25
  brand new that mindset, my mindset telegram like
• 41:29
  manifesting Mahina ahead. Like I really don't parang Ohh.
• 41:33
  If I believe in it, I will it will happen.
• 41:36
  And obviously manifestation is deeper than that better.
• 41:39
  Like I really can't tell myself no, no, I can do it.
• 41:42
  I can do it because I I I guess I'm too realistic.
• 41:47
  Well, there is a chance that I will fail.
• 41:50
  Let's just be honest and transparent about that.
• 41:54
  I can. I can see that and the way that
• 41:57
  you also like give you strategies.
• 42:00
  I know I can see now it's really grounded and logical because of
• 42:04
  course we need that. Also, yeah, I like that.
• 42:10
  There's nothing wrong with hoping federal like shampoo when
• 42:13
  you do your best, there's always that ohh.
• 42:15
  I hope I pass and I know I did my best temporary.
• 42:18
  There is a big chance that you will pass and that's that's
• 42:21
  good. It's healthy.
• 42:22
  The shadow down there now. Hello Yahoo.
• 42:27
  You also need to be realistic. Now there is a chance that you
• 42:32
  will fail because there's so many factors apart from you.
• 42:37
  It could be maybe now you can focus or test nagata and then
• 42:45
  the items are the ones you didn't study for so it's natural
• 42:48
  to be. Doubtful.
• 42:50
  So neutral, but again, new term. But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a
• 42:56
  good place to be in. Like when you're preparing for
• 42:58
  something big, you're not too anxious and you're not too
• 43:02
  excited, You're just in the wind between.
• 43:05
  Hmm, wow, that's a skill. That's a skip right away.
• 43:11
  And then the curious about Andrea Devardi say no.
• 43:14
  Once you talk to boards firing, all these opportunities will
• 43:17
  come flocking to you. Say you about like, what's that
• 43:21
  one change in your career or daily life after passing and
• 43:25
  popping the boards? I will tell you that that is a
• 43:29
  scam. Okay well I don't know what this
• 43:34
  is just my personal experience people.
• 43:36
  I felt like nothing really changed.
• 43:39
  I think the biggest change that stopping the board exam really
• 43:43
  welcomed me was it was mostly introspective change, not so
• 43:48
  much like, um, professional opportunity.
• 43:52
  Some people, I mean, I hope not if you thought the exam you get
• 43:57
  opportunities. I hope that this happen for your
• 43:59
  other people there for me, because like I said, Kanina, I
• 44:05
  don't really have a strong passion for Idi just knew now if
• 44:08
  I'm going to do this, I have to do it all the way.
• 44:11
  And I told myself now, um, taking this board exam, it will
• 44:16
  serve mostly service to me, not so much for My Portfolio.
• 44:20
  I, I treated the board exam kind of as a, as a assurance to
• 44:27
  myself because I don't know about you Mika.
• 44:30
  Maybe you're very self assuring or maybe you have a lot of
• 44:34
  self-confidence. Well, that's what you give off.
• 44:38
  Especially by the time now when we graduated, I felt like, ohh,
• 44:41
  no, I feel like and I feel like I I don't know so many things.
• 44:46
  And that's normal to some extent because you learn so much when
• 44:50
  you start work. For me, I felt like and about
• 44:54
  parang, especially in the last two years of college, I was
• 44:57
  like, I don't feel like I've grown.
• 44:59
  I don't feel like I've learned. I don't even know if I'm a good
• 45:02
  designer. So for me, the personal
• 45:04
  chronicle I have with the board exam was really to just see now
• 45:08
  if I pass this exam, I'll try to be a little less harsh on
• 45:12
  myself. And that's really, that's really
• 45:14
  your main goal call. That was like, I don't know if
• 45:17
  this will give me more job options or opportunities.
• 45:20
  Hopefully it will. There are mostly if I pass this
• 45:23
  board. Some maybe, but I'll be a little
• 45:26
  a little nicer to myself as a designer.
• 45:30
  Feel very fresh and perspective because you made it like an
• 45:34
  inward process and that makes it like less overwhelming and
• 45:38
  pressuring. To say you don't have to take
• 45:41
  the board exam, honestly, some people, I mean, not to be money
• 45:47
  minded, Pedro, a lot of people don't take the exam, make much
• 45:52
  more money, make much, very, very much more successful than
• 45:56
  we are. It's really it's just kind of a
• 46:00
  stamp, something you can put on your portfolio and add this
• 46:04
  person, they've organized, they know how to study, they know how
• 46:08
  to discipline themselves enough to pass this kind of
• 46:13
  professional standard. Very apart from that, I will say
• 46:17
  now if you think it will change your world, I don't think it
• 46:20
  will. Ohh yeah super important .1 of
• 46:25
  my mistakes and I was telling them was putting it on a
• 46:28
  pedestal and then you realised the second take.
• 46:31
  Now it's not really about that, it's more of like you like me
• 46:35
  how I manage it this time, but. Yes, like you have to kind of
• 46:42
  obviously you don't have to take it further is merit in taking it
• 46:46
  because like you have to milk the opportunity in a way you see
• 46:51
  fit now. But I will use this so I can
• 46:54
  demand higher rates. I can use this for myself.
• 46:57
  I can use this. You know, it's it's just it's
• 47:00
  just kind of assigned to you and employers now.
• 47:03
  Can I name board exam? You know, it's an added.
• 47:07
  It's not really a defining feature, but it's an added
• 47:10
  feature definitely. It's like an upgrade, but.
• 47:14
  Great. That's an added feature that so
• 47:22
  Andrea do semi cup it off any Young Money recommend more now
• 47:26
  one daily habit to help them stay motivated while reviewing.
• 47:34
  Daily habit? I don't know.
• 47:38
  For me, Casa, I take things very seriously.
• 47:43
  So that's just my nature. Uh, the moment I really didn't
• 47:48
  want to stress over it there in the moment you will absolutely
• 47:50
  stress over it. So I will say know yourself, do
• 47:54
  your best and set a schedule in accordance to what you know
• 47:59
  about yourself for the everyday habit.
• 48:03
  I will say do things that ground you.
• 48:05
  Cause I like you said, Mika, if you put too much pressure on
• 48:09
  this woman, your whole world will change if you pass.
• 48:12
  Really it's not the case. So I will say take care of
• 48:17
  yourself and how you see fit while you're doing the board
• 48:19
  exam. You Giba they, they know now
• 48:23
  ohh, if I focus too much on this, like crash out the hole.
• 48:27
  So don't you do things while you're studying to prevent that,
• 48:30
  because it's good that you're working hard in studying there.
• 48:34
  You also need to remember that if you mamaya support Island
• 48:40
  mall you get sick, you know, it's like you need to take care
• 48:44
  of yourself because you're the test taker.
• 48:48
  But this won't take itself. You can prepare your mind all
• 48:52
  you want, but it's you who's going to be in the room.
• 48:55
  You need to take care of yourself.
• 48:57
  If you feel like treating yourself to beauty everyday is
• 49:00
  the solution for this, for the for the time that you're
• 49:04
  reviewing, go do that. You know, do what it takes for
• 49:09
  you to feel like you've done your best and you've taken care
• 49:11
  of yourself in preparation for the exam.
• 49:15
  Yeah, that's so true. Some would like be sick during
• 49:19
  the exam. It's a reality.
• 49:21
  Yes, take care of your. Health very good reminder.
• 49:27
  Wow, okay, thank you Andrea, I'm coming.
• 49:33
  It felt so grounding and soothing considering the timing
• 49:37
  par by when this episode will be released.
• 49:40
  I'm here now. It's gonna be ushering for them.
• 49:43
  So wait quick fire round dial. Yes, ready.
• 49:49
  Just one word or like a short phrase.
• 49:54
  Well, it's giving boy abunda. So if they could remember one
• 49:59
  thing, let it be this. Let's start.
• 50:03
  I'll go to study resource or app you recommend.
• 50:08
  Sharpie, get all the reviewers from shopping.
• 50:13
  Important one word to describe your board exam journey.
• 50:17
  Firing. And then a mantra that help you
• 50:28
  push through the tough. Days not do your best, just try
• 50:34
  and do your best. Really.
• 50:37
  Ohh. I really like how it's so, so
• 50:41
  grounded and like full on yeah. Cause, you know, maybe.
• 50:44
  Very. But then to say it's easy to say
• 50:48
  after that we've taken it Nana board exam season.
• 50:53
  No, that's not the case. Hey, Green Yeah, it's not.
• 50:58
  It's the facade para. I will say talaga, just do your
• 51:02
  best. Cause I honestly, some people,
• 51:04
  they don't put that much effort in the board exam, they don't
• 51:09
  pass. They're so sad.
• 51:10
  So para have the confidence now. I did my best.
• 51:15
  And then if it's not for me, at least you tried.
• 51:18
  But you're going to, you're going to gain, earn something
• 51:22
  then just because you did your best, honestly.
• 51:26
  Muslim for time probably. Ohh I like eating that.
• 51:33
  Ohh. Yeah, my enemy, I know my
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  favorite anime character is then I like.
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  It's so unfair to say now. You did your best when deep
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  inside you know Anna. Yeah.
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  Right. Well, so nice.
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  Okay, so for those who still feel like they want to ask
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  something specific, Andrea. You message me on Facebook or
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  you can e-mail me. I'm very very if we're friends
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  on Facebook, even if we're not friends, just just ask me and if
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  I can I will help Instagram you feel free.
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  One day I'll be like what did anyone message me on Instagram?
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  After the boards. Oh my God.
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  Okay so I'll link you manga references for Andrea and for
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  this episode. That's it for Andrea, the Jack
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  of all trades. Thank you so much, Andrea.
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  Thank you, Mika. I'm so happy to talk about this.
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  We. And now we can go out through
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  now with a real camera really like that.
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  I didn't know. Now you came in with that
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  mindset knowing the board exam. I don't know.
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  I honestly it's easy to say that now.
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  Not the postma very in the moment.
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  I don't know. I feel so stupid.
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  I need to really use this exam to prove to myself Navaho and
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  then even after passing the board exam.
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  So because it's Rico? I I still.
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  Feel bobo pero at least I can say not Ohh despite feeling bobo
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  can. I are going board exam you.
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  Know. Apparently, it's not so much if
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  you think that your world will change, it won't.
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  Actually, nothing will change. It's just, why not?
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  It's just you take the opportunity to prove to
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  yourself, not Kyaho, and then continue Mokaya.
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  The world won't end. It might feel like it better
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  after a week, two weeks, you'll realise that it's just a test.
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  It's just test. That it's a one big quiz.
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  Exactly. So true.
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  Yeah, I think that's part of the reason why I realise eventually
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  not another man. If I had to take it once, we all
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  have our timelines. We call Mika.
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  How are you the first versus the second time?
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  After when I was recounting everything for this for this
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  special, I realise now wow. Like apart from not putting my
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  older in during the first day, I also had this feeling now
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  already petrol one in my Just take it for the sake of it.
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  You know that I don't do things apartently and when I do it
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  doesn't end up well. And then fucking happened.
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  So wait for the second pick. I decided now made long before
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  the like, as I said, now if I wanna go all in, if I wanna say
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  no, I did my best. I really have to prove to myself
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  I really did everything that I can to the best that I can.
• 54:49
  Yeah. So I got a nine to five after
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  one after the first day go cause I'm like what should I learn
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  about this profession and I didn't have during the first
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  day. Wow.
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  The valet, it felt like a blessing in disguise because I
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  feel like if I pass the first time Tapos, I didn't have this
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  appreciation for the for the profession.
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  It wouldn't be like doing Idi would just be like continuing
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  graphic design, brand design and all of that.
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  It really forced me to take a look.
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  Now, how does this, you know, like benefit me?
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  How does this apply to my life for the second pick?
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  So I took it like with really a heart, a clear heart now.
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  Yeah, I, I appreciate ID and I want to be part of this
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  profession and elevate it and. Right, so you put in, well,
• 55:43
  let's just do this exam to prove to to to, you know, employers
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  and to myself. Now you know, even though I'm
• 55:51
  lacking in somethings, at least I did this.
• 55:55
  Yeah, at least I, I overcame this or like versus like not
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  ever doing it, not ever giving myself a chance to try it
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  though. Yeah, and actually it's OK
• 56:10
  because it's your money, it's your loss.
• 56:11
  If you don't want to take it seriously, it's okay.
• 56:16
  Shadow If you don't pass, you know, it's really it's really
• 56:20
  like you can do whatever you want.
• 56:23
  Parallel we also interview and then if you don't pass your plan
• 56:30
  surprised and shocked, obviously you can feel those things
• 56:33
  federal you know you need to be a little self reflective then
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  you know, did I make the experience worth it?
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  That's important in my head. You're you're using resources
• 56:48
  there. Time, energy, attention, money.
• 56:51
  Might as well make the most out of it.
• 56:53
  If you, if this is the level of effort you put in, maybe manage
• 56:57
  your expectations, you know? I really like how you said that,
• 57:01
  very reflective, this unfair when I know when they say no,
• 57:06
  they tried, but they really didn't, Didn't.
• 57:08
  Yeah. And that's one thing that I
• 57:10
  noticed for us since the interview, really common thread
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  is your purpose in really taking it.
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  And like the energy when they took it, no one gave it half
• 57:22
  heartedly. That's the thing.
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  Like no pastor did it half heartedly.
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  I mean, I will say there's nothing wrong with doing it half
• 57:31
  heartedly because ohh, you know, if, if it works for you, that's
• 57:37
  great. Cause for example, I'm sure
• 57:40
  there are some people who they really can't afford to do it
• 57:43
  full heartedly, maybe even find Mila or maybe they don't want to
• 57:47
  invest too much. But Andy Machado Masaka.
• 57:51
  And that's fine. Hello.
• 57:56
  You know, can you say, you know, you did your best, you know it's
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  a matter at the end of the day, will you be happy with your
• 58:03
  work? You know.
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  Or maybe like their own. And that's a good point.
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  Or like they're afraid to let people know.
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  They tried so hard. They wanted it so hard to speak
• 58:14
  long. Ohh it didn't.
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  Work. Exactly.
• 58:17
  I feel like you knew. Maybe that's a big reason to
• 58:21
  feel you know, it will be such a hard blow, which I understand.
• 58:26
  I didn't even take a work leave. I Wow, I don't think I could do
• 58:31
  that. Good for you.
• 58:32
  No. Can I?
• 58:32
  Ammo because the mindset when I got my 9 to 5 was really, this
• 58:39
  is going to be my review for the next year.
• 58:42
  Yeah, you really had to pull myself up.
• 58:48
  And that was. Actually, I'm very in awe of the
• 58:52
  people who were working while they were studying because I
• 58:57
  feel like if I did that from work that I will not find the
• 59:01
  time more the discipline to study.
• 59:04
  Like it's really different for no purpose one.
• 59:08
  Yeah, very well. The thing with me, since I took
• 59:12
  my 9:00 to 5:00 as a review now I didn't study afterwards.
• 59:16
  I would like work on the speed drafting, not talaga.
• 59:21
  Thank you so much for being here.
• 59:23
  Thank you for having me, Mika. Doria, freshing.
• 59:27
  Thank you, Andrea. It's so, so good to talk with
• 59:30
  you. Nice.
• 59:33
  Same same same thing. So we should talk more.
• 59:36
  I didn't we didn't get to talk in this level because during
• 59:39
  college friend and I'm just happy to to witness this part of
• 59:44
  you Sayed. I like it.
• 59:46
  I enjoyed it very much. I enjoyed this super duper.
• 59:50
  Thank you, Luca. Thank you and.
• 59:53
  That's a wrap for today's episode.
• 59:55
  I hope this insights give you clarity, courage, confidence and
• 59:59
  peace as you prepare for your own board exams.
• 1:00:02
  Many I have something special coming up, an entire Edly
• 1:00:06
  podcast special where I sit down with recent board passers and
• 1:00:11
  top notchers to breakdown their strategies, mindset shifts, and
• 1:00:15
  everything they wish they knew before taking the exam.
• 1:00:18
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• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:25
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• 1:00:28
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• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:35
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• 1:00:38
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• 1:00:44
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• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:53
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• 1:00:56
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• 1:00:59
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