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- 0:04OK, welcome to Into the Channel podcast primarily about women's
- 0:10football. I'm your host Dino de Suspitis
- 0:12and as always, I'm joined by my Co host Mr. Grant Angle.
- 0:17What's up, man? I'm feeling fantastic buddy.
- 0:22See any good football games this weekend?
- 0:25Saw a couple. Saw a couple, saw a couple.
- 0:28Yeah, I saw some during the week last week.
- 0:29It's been a lot of a lot of good football games happening here
- 0:33recently, but the two this weekend cannot wait to chop
- 0:36these up. Yes, a couple of heaters in the
- 0:40NWSL semi finals. Yeah man, they they absolutely
- 0:47delivered. Ready to get into it with you?
- 0:50Well, if you, if you followed my predictions from last week, you
- 0:54went over 2 apologies on that. So I got both of them wrong.
- 0:58It's not going to. So anywhere we start, we'll
- 1:01start where after one of my my incorrect predictions, I'm going
- 1:06to kick it right back to you ticky Tacka style, Mr. Grant
- 1:09angle. Where are we going to get
- 1:10started? Let's get started with a
- 1:12beverage. Let's go to celebrate
- 1:16championship beverage. Exactly.
- 1:20If I can, if I can work this beverage.
- 1:22What's going on here? See, I'm not.
- 1:25I got a round into championship form here.
- 1:27It's all right. Cheers to you.
- 1:29Cheers to football. Cheers to the Washington Spirit
- 1:35and Gotham FC. As the league has told us, 2
- 1:39bitter rivals, 2 fierce rivals as they were trying to make that
- 1:43a thing during champion, during rivalry week when it was Gotham
- 1:47and Washington were rivals, Orlando Pride and Racing
- 1:50Louisville were rivals because they both were purple.
- 1:53It's very blood rivals. Purple versus lavender.
- 1:59The stinks don't get any higher than that, but for the purposes
- 2:02of this show, let us start with Saturday's match.
- 2:06Washington Spirit to Portland Thorns Football Club No.
- 2:13Lot of places we can start with this one.
- 2:14I want to start in the midfield because obviously we talked a
- 2:18ton this year about Portland Thorns midfield, our Midfielder
- 2:22of the year, our M4A, Olivia Moultrie, you know, very much
- 2:27leading spearheading that midfield in this one.
- 2:31That Portland midfield got way out midfielded by that
- 2:34Washington midfield, you know, Kroy, Hal Hirschfeld, Lacey
- 2:39Santos and what I love too. Everybody was getting involved,
- 2:43whether it was like players on the wings, Kowasi Cantore or
- 2:47Rebecca Bernal would run up and back and like it.
- 2:49Just the middle of the park was such a chaotic, frenetic place
- 2:54where Portland just could not get comfortable.
- 2:57And it was a little, a little jarring to see, to see, to see
- 3:01them kind of get knocked on their heels in that part of the
- 3:04park. I mean, it makes me wonder, you
- 3:08know, if they're just a really tough match up.
- 3:12You know, like, I've, I've mentioned it a bunch of times
- 3:16like that August, I think I want to say it was like August 3rd,
- 3:18whatever the first match was out of the international break, it
- 3:21felt like there was a lot of that in that match.
- 3:23Now, the Thorns were able to generate better chances in that
- 3:26match than they were this weekend.
- 3:30And I don't even think the crazy part about it was, yeah, like
- 3:33Moultrie wasn't wasn't super effective.
- 3:36Obviously really the Spirit were able to limit her, but I don't
- 3:42think they played terrible either.
- 3:43Like, Coffee wasn't bad like she was.
- 3:45She still did like some of her disruptive defensive stuff.
- 3:50You know, Moultrie was able to to move around a little bit, but
- 3:53definitely wasn't a match to write home about.
- 3:56Jesse Fleming had some moments where, you know, she was getting
- 3:59into some dangerous areas, but then there were those others,
- 4:03you know, those other like several minutes of time that you
- 4:06and I have talked about where it's like, Oh yeah, Fleming's on
- 4:08the field. And so I just if you just get
- 4:11enough of that across the match and you know, the combination of
- 4:16spirits attackers and spirits midfield and and rose quasi just
- 4:20running at Portland's defenders, I would say the midfield got out
- 4:25midfield it for Portland, but I think Portland's defenders had a
- 4:29pretty rough go of it too. I mean, going to get I mean,
- 4:35let's talk about Rose Quasi, because now she's been mentioned
- 4:37six or seven times already to this point and was just a player
- 4:41that was on a different planet in this match up.
- 4:45I mean, you know, her chemistry with gift Monday is quickly, I
- 4:52don't know it. It's sort of like nudging into
- 4:54LeBron wade territory. I I put Montana rice in my
- 4:57notes. I mean, I think they just are on
- 4:59a wavelength where, you know, we saw Kowasi last week, I'm sorry,
- 5:04last season, you know, have a ton of energy, get involved in
- 5:09the match in a in a bunch of different ways.
- 5:11And I don't want to say not really find the right outlet,
- 5:14but for whatever reason, gift Monday is just the perfect
- 5:17counterweight to her. You know, she can run with
- 5:20Kowasi. They just have a really sharp
- 5:26eye for the angles. Like they just know how to like
- 5:31cut in or around or behind the defense or through a defense.
- 5:34And it just seems like the defenders are always like, I
- 5:37don't know, head spinning a little bit.
- 5:40And the goal in this one was was awesome.
- 5:42And I think we just kind of joked about it last week and
- 5:45leading up to to to the semifinal.
- 5:48The chemistry that they've been developing has been is really
- 5:51something special. Just so so just to see that goal
- 5:54happen. I mean, you know, quasi an
- 5:58unbelievable play. I mean, I I wrote in my notes
- 6:01for for for yet another sports analogy.
- 6:03I'm like shades of Bo Jackson on that one.
- 6:05I'm really having trouble putting that moment into words.
- 6:09I mean, Hirschfeld a nothing clearance on a corner that comes
- 6:13in and that nothing clearance because Rose Grossi, Rose Grossi
- 6:17going 850 yards roughly up the right hand side and and
- 6:21basically separating themselves from Portland in this match,
- 6:26this the single. Touch to like really get the
- 6:28breakaway going of like, oh, I got to keep it in play and I
- 6:32just got to knock it forward and then it's a foot race.
- 6:35And Gee, I wonder who's going to win that foot race.
- 6:39Yeah, I mean, she's she's absolutely incredible.
- 6:41The move to you know, right wing back is a is a stroke of genius
- 6:46by Gonzales. I think there were a lot of a
- 6:49lot of matches last year where you would have Monday and Kawasi
- 6:53as your, you know, right and left wingers when when Trinity
- 6:58Rodman was battling injury, obviously, or maybe Monday was
- 7:02played in the middle more. Again, off the top of my head
- 7:05from last year, not that important, but Kawasi clearly
- 7:09taking a big step in the right direction.
- 7:14Off the top of your head and sorry to make you take a quiz
- 7:17here or ask you to take a quiz here.
- 7:19How old do you? How old do you think Rose Quasi
- 7:22is? I mean, she plays like a 2526
- 7:27year old player. This is a good one because I
- 7:29don't know. I don't know the answer. 23
- 7:31Let's go. So you're not, So you're not far
- 7:34off, but she still really kind of has a bit of a walk to get
- 7:39into her absolute prime. And she's already looking this
- 7:42good, having switched positions, kind of moving around on the
- 7:45field. You know, they're, they
- 7:48basically just found a new spot for her and to your point, found
- 7:53a new spot for her where she's excelling in her chemistry with
- 7:57another excellent player. Yeah, I mean, there's pretty
- 8:02much nothing she can't pursue, you know, which is great.
- 8:06Like she could run after everything she could.
- 8:07And, you know, she loves to kind of like try those, you know,
- 8:11they're not really risky balls, but they're, they're a little
- 8:14bit audacious, you know, of passes.
- 8:16And she just like, I'm going to, I'm going to slam that one
- 8:19through this little lane here and see what we can get.
- 8:23But she's just playing really, really great as a distributor.
- 8:26The, the, the move to wingback that you called out is just,
- 8:31it's so it's such a great call because one of the things that
- 8:34we were talking about the last few weeks is like so many
- 8:36players, we rattle off 8 or 9 players like right, well, you
- 8:39can only fit 5 or 6, you know, in, in those attacking spots.
- 8:43What do you do exactly? And credit to Gonzalez, I think
- 8:46he figured it out, you know, with flying colours.
- 8:49Wanted to give Monday another shout out as well on on that
- 8:54goal. It's funny because Monday
- 8:59recognizes that Quasi is on, right?
- 9:02She's got a break. She's like, OK, there's
- 9:03something here GIF Monday hits it and she's just flying up the
- 9:08field, catches up to Quasi and I'm like, look, I mean Monday's
- 9:12got some wheels and then she hits 5th gear.
- 9:15Then then there's another gear. You know, once when she realized
- 9:18that the ball is coming across, I'm like, Oh my God, just ran so
- 9:23fast that like almost outran the ball and then the the ball ends
- 9:27up being a little bit behind her because she like kind of outruns
- 9:30it. Even though when it was played,
- 9:31it was played perfectly. Just a, a, a, a tremendous, A
- 9:36tremendous display of like athleticism and just opportunism
- 9:40at the right moment. And then and then at that
- 9:42moment, kind of felt like it was going to be an uphill batter for
- 9:46Portland getting back into it. Yeah, surely.
- 9:49I mean, you know, they're having a hard time, you know, kind of
- 9:52generating any really good chances, any chances that I felt
- 9:56like we're we're going to really, really test Aubrey
- 9:59Kingsbury. I'm glad you use the term like
- 10:02opportunism and that that general idea of gift money being
- 10:06opportunistic in that moment. Criticy of our pals at Fat Mob.
- 10:10She had the fewest touches 31 of any outfield player who played
- 10:1690 minutes with 31 touches. And let me tell you, one of
- 10:21those touches, to your point, was the decisive 1.
- 10:25So she didn't need that many, you know, I, I just think this
- 10:31team is, is really, they look like they're cresting at the, at
- 10:34the exact right moment. And I understand like in sports,
- 10:37you, you have a cup or you have a playoffs type situation and
- 10:42the teams that make the final, it's, it's usually easy to say,
- 10:46Oh, well, they're peaking at the right time because they just won
- 10:48a couple games to get to the final.
- 10:50But their form just looks different right now.
- 10:54It's it's been ascending, you know, there's always, you have
- 10:57the peaks and valleys or whatever.
- 10:58But I think they're doing the thing that you and I talked
- 11:01about months ago where they're really kind of getting it
- 11:04together at the exact right time.
- 11:07I had the same thought. I'm glad you brought this up.
- 11:10And I don't think it's confirmation bias because 4 NWSL
- 11:14teams played ball this weekend and only one of them feels like
- 11:17they're peaking at the right time from what we saw.
- 11:20And that's the spirit. And what makes it even more
- 11:24valid is we spend a lot of time this season talking about all
- 11:28right, well, the spirit, what's wrong with them?
- 11:30Like, why why don't they look awesome?
- 11:31Why aren't they awesome? You know, like, why are they
- 11:35losing this weird Rd. match? Or, you know, why are they
- 11:37struggling against, you know, whoever Utah or Chicago or
- 11:40whatever, and then you watch them in this match, they look
- 11:45unbelievable, like they look fast.
- 11:48They look instinctive. When they wanted the ball back,
- 11:52they got the ball back It it just looks completely night and
- 11:56day. And you know, I'll I'll give
- 11:58Gonzalez another shout too, because obviously Cantore's
- 12:01looked, you know, really good since coming over.
- 12:03She hits the post in this one like a perfectly, you know, a
- 12:09perfect setup up top. If Gonzalez wants to move Rodman
- 12:12in and Cantore out, it's pretty much like that's the only move
- 12:16that you can get away with that move and leave everything else
- 12:19untouched because they can. Like, I think he kind of figured
- 12:22out where the pieces go. And this spirit side simply has
- 12:27not looked. I don't know.
- 12:29For me, I didn't I haven't watched every.
- 12:31I watched most spirit minutes, I'll say this season, but I
- 12:33haven't watched, but I haven't seen them get anywhere near this
- 12:39level of, you know, defensive intensity, win the ball back.
- 12:44The passes were crisp. They were thoughtful.
- 12:49You know, they, you know, like the way the, the, the, the way
- 12:52the players were moving. I, I jotted down Rebecca Bernal
- 12:55specifically because you see her movement where she gets
- 13:01involved, how quickly she can wheel back to her spot on the
- 13:05back line and how the rotations fill the space behind her that
- 13:09allow Bernal to move up or Tara McKeon to go up field.
- 13:13Did you hear? Did you know Tara McKeon was a
- 13:14striker at some point? I don't know if you heard that,
- 13:16but. I've never heard it.
- 13:18Yeah, but I mean, shout out to that Washington back line,
- 13:22Wiesner, Esme Mori on the other side, because the rotation just
- 13:25made it so that it didn't matter.
- 13:28Anybody can go anywhere. And everybody else just filled,
- 13:31you know, like the the like, whatever gap was there for a
- 13:33second just completely shut. And it was just beautiful to
- 13:37watch. The movement was awesome. 100%
- 13:40I'm glad you bring up Rebecca Bernal When Washington Spirit
- 13:44played at Lumen Field in lovely Seattle, WA against Seattle Rain
- 13:49Football Club when I was talking to Laura Harvey post match, it
- 13:54was a Washington Spirit victory if I recall correctly.
- 13:58And I thought Rebecca Bernal was looked like the best player on
- 14:04the field. And before I got the opportunity
- 14:06to ask a question to Laura Harvey, she was asking and she
- 14:09was answering another question and said Bernal was the best
- 14:13player on the field in the first half.
- 14:14And I was like, OK, but I my eyes were not deceiving me.
- 14:18Again, courtesy of our pals over at Fat Mob.
- 14:21She completed 97% of her passes in this match, 32 for 33.
- 14:26She's a, she's a genius. And then you, you, you put her
- 14:30on the back line with, with Mickey Own and Esme Morgan, you
- 14:36know, it's a combination of toughness, smarts and skill that
- 14:41just makes them super hard to beat.
- 14:42Oh, and if if you get past them, all you got to do is beat Aubrey
- 14:46Kingsbury, the 2021 NWSL Championship MVP.
- 14:53Another word that I would use to describe those three defenders,
- 14:56Bernal McKeon and Esme Morgan, just there's straight up
- 15:01electricity running through all three of those players.
- 15:03Like all three of them just look like they're I mean like just
- 15:08supercharged. I mean it it great to watch
- 15:12super athletic super athletes and the connectivity is awesome.
- 15:17Last week. No, on this one, Cory Bethune,
- 15:20who I thought, you know, didn't have a great game, you know,
- 15:23against Louisville. And then I I also caught myself
- 15:26thinking about that Emma Sears strike against Louisville, like
- 15:29how close, I mean, Washington might end up lifting the trophy
- 15:33and they might have also ended up being 6 inches away from
- 15:36being eliminated after, you know, one playoff match up.
- 15:39I mean, who knows? It's the sport's just
- 15:41unbelievable. But Corey Bethune, who I thought
- 15:44kind of took a back seat in the Louisville match, the complete
- 15:47opposite in this one, leads the match in shots, leads the match
- 15:51in chances created, you know, gets that big take away.
- 15:56And it was just kind of like a, you know, I mean, I always like
- 15:59bring basketball parlance to it, but it it's a kind of like when
- 16:03when there's a steal happens and you very quickly turn around and
- 16:06just throw it out of the loop, you know, because somebody's
- 16:08like streaking to the rim, you know, and it's like an immediate
- 16:11like go up and get it kind of play.
- 16:13That was like a real go up and get it kind of moment from Corey
- 16:15Bethune after last week. I thought I thought was great.
- 16:19And you could see her super active from early.
- 16:21She took a shot, got close, you know, gestures to the crowd is
- 16:26like we she was just very, very, very locked into this one and
- 16:29was like kind of like the fuel for, you know, that midfield
- 16:32takeover that I was talking about at the very top.
- 16:35Yeah, and that's that's terrifying.
- 16:37That should be terrifying for opponents because just because
- 16:40of her intelligence and then her ability to place passes in front
- 16:46of her running mates that are just perfectly weighted, that
- 16:50are extremely clever, and then she can do, you know, she can
- 16:54score too. You got a feel for Sam Hiatt in
- 16:59that moment? It's a horrendous giveaway.
- 17:03And the the sub I think, was already planned.
- 17:07So if you're Sam Hiatt, you have the terrible giveaway.
- 17:12Bethune makes the right touch to get around Arnold and basically
- 17:16secure the match. Then you get subbed off and your
- 17:19season is over. So super, super bummer for Sam
- 17:23Hiatt. You hate to see that happen to
- 17:24any athlete. Obviously she's a good player
- 17:26though. She'll she'll be back.
- 17:28But the Washington Spirit marches on, and they March on to
- 17:32the NWSL Championship. I can't believe it.
- 17:38I got to go back and listen to see who I picked to to show up
- 17:41in the final. Not sure if it was Washington,
- 17:42but I had Orlando win the whole thing and had Washington winning
- 17:45the shield. But let's talk about that of the
- 17:47match up. A big surprise.
- 17:50I I would say in terms of the final score line.
- 17:54I mean, I, I don't know that Orlando was much better than
- 17:58Gotham today, but I think they were better.
- 18:00You know, you look at the XG differential 1.15 to 0.17, so
- 18:05roughly a one XG, you know, separates the two, one real G
- 18:11separates the two only it's not in the same direction.
- 18:15So a little bit unfortunate if you're Orlando from that
- 18:17standpoint. Orlando, you know, outshoots,
- 18:19you know, Gotham in this one. Gotham slight edge in
- 18:21possession, little bit crisper with their passing.
- 18:25Just a pretty cagey match. I mean, I think like, you know,
- 18:28Gotham got off to a really good start.
- 18:30I think Orlando wrestled the way control for most of the rest of
- 18:34the first half. Gotham gets cooking again in the
- 18:37second-half. You know, as it starts to take
- 18:40down, they start to crank up the pressure a little bit.
- 18:42I thought Mandy Freeman coming into the game provided Gotham
- 18:45with like a really nice jolt. But what what was your read on
- 18:49the, you know, pre goal? Obviously, you know, this one
- 18:51gets decided super late, but prior to that the match proper.
- 18:57What was your read on on these two teams battling it out?
- 19:01I liked, I like the physicality from both teams.
- 19:05They were, they both clearly kind of have that in their DNA
- 19:09of like, OK, we're you're going to feel us while we're out
- 19:12there. We're going to make things
- 19:14difficult on you. I was really surprised.
- 19:17And I thought our friend of the show, Leanne Sanderson was also
- 19:22rightfully like wondering, you know, it's not like we're always
- 19:24out here calling for yellow cards or whatever.
- 19:27But that Raffaele fowl on on Katrin Burger, like around the
- 19:3120 minute mark, cross comes in, Burger catches it and Raffaele
- 19:36fowls her, like clearly fowls her.
- 19:39And usually that's a yellow card when you do that on the keeper
- 19:41doesn't get called. Ref keeps it in his pocket.
- 19:45And, you know, I, I think, I think the ref did a good job of,
- 19:53of making sure and, and pardon me, I, I think I said the ref
- 19:55keeps it in his pocket. Referee in this match was Alyssa
- 19:58Pennington, who I thought called a, a pretty good match down down
- 20:01the middle. I, I like that she let him play
- 20:05a little bit. These two teams are going to be
- 20:08physical with each other. And you know, we, we talked
- 20:11about, I had to, I had to break out the Rudy Tom Johnovich quote
- 20:15last time. Never underestimate the heart of
- 20:17a champion. The Bats just wanted to make
- 20:20sure in this in this one, they kind of raised their hand and be
- 20:22like, hey buddy, remember 2023 we got some champions on this
- 20:26team as well. Yeah, I mean, I think and it's
- 20:31not just 2023, you know, you look at some of those US and
- 20:34national team players, you look at some of those Brazilian
- 20:37players, you look at those some of those Spanish players.
- 20:40I mean there's there's champions up and down.
- 20:42I mean the the entire pitch was probably littered with players
- 20:45with like recent 12/18/24 months championship experience.
- 20:51Jess Carter, European champion. Unbelievable.
- 20:54Yeah, I mean, on Kutchenberger, you could think about what she
- 20:56does in the EUR, like right there, you know, didn't win,
- 21:00didn't win any hardware, but like right at that level, tons
- 21:03of championship football. This this one was I, I don't
- 21:08want to say a great match, but there was so many close calls,
- 21:12like watching Marta trying to work out that Gotham defense,
- 21:16trying to find angles. You know, I, I felt really bad
- 21:20for Jackie Ovaia in this one who got close like, you know,
- 21:26painfully close a couple times. And you know, nobody's going to
- 21:30feel worse about it than Ovaia because you can just see what
- 21:33kind of player she is and you can see where she was at and she
- 21:36fought all the way through the match.
- 21:37You know, even I think she was one that drew that foul at the
- 21:40very end of the match. It also be that almost be an
- 21:43equalizer but super hard fought, you know, match.
- 21:48And and I just kind of had the feeling that it was going to
- 21:52come down to a singular special play.
- 21:55And even though I thought coming into it, Orlando was primed to
- 21:59kind of have the advantage if it was going to be a special play
- 22:05very late kind of moment that was going to decide this one.
- 22:08You've got Marta on one side and then you've got 234 really good
- 22:13options maybe for a finish like that on the Gotham side.
- 22:17And that's kind of end up where we had.
- 22:18That's where we ended up. Yeah.
- 22:21And I think, I mean, to your point, like if you needed a
- 22:23special moment from Orlando, like obviously the number one
- 22:29most likely option for that would be Marta.
- 22:32But to your point, though, Ovaya is a spectacular player.
- 22:35Like she could provide that. Hayley Mccutchen, AKA Hayley
- 22:39Mcclutchen has done it in the in the playoffs before.
- 22:44And you know, and we know Angelina's capable of those
- 22:47things like, so there are options on on both sides.
- 22:50I think it when we did our prediction, I predicted extra
- 22:54time, Marta winning it in extra time, Orlando winning one NIL,
- 23:00obviously. So this it's my it's my turn to
- 23:02say I got a prediction wrong. But yeah, I mean, they're just
- 23:07there wasn't a lot between these two squads.
- 23:11And I think we kind of knew that coming in.
- 23:12I know we both picked Orlando. You know, we thought it would
- 23:17help that they were at home. But you know, they just like
- 23:22Rose Lavelle had her, had her moments in there, obviously
- 23:25didn't didn't lead to a goal. But when it when it comes down
- 23:30to it, like you just have like these these singular moments
- 23:33like Jaden Shaw puts in a brilliant, a brilliant set piece
- 23:38free kick. And Morehouse just she has to
- 23:41freeze because it looks like the ball's going to get tapped, you
- 23:45know, kind of going to Morehouse's right.
- 23:47And she just has to she has to stay there.
- 23:49And I think it was it I I think it was purse.
- 23:52Purse doesn't get make contact with it.
- 23:55Yeah, or. It was.
- 23:57Yeah, and, and, and the ball goes and the ball goes in like
- 24:00side net right around there. So, you know, those are like the
- 24:04fine margins that we are going to deal with with these two
- 24:07sides. And you know, I I mean, in our
- 24:10hearts did the right team win? I don't, I don't think so.
- 24:14I think we probably agree on that.
- 24:16You pointed out some of the stats as well.
- 24:18I feel terrible for our pals like Ad Astra and everything.
- 24:20Everybody who, you know, is rooting for the pride over
- 24:23there, but they'll be back. So, you know, though I hear
- 24:27they're going to get a player named Barbara Banda back next
- 24:30season. So they'll have a lot more to
- 24:32say in 2026. Yeah.
- 24:35She's pretty good, I think. So I had a terrible thought.
- 24:40I mean, it depends, depends on what side of your what side you
- 24:44look at it from. Because if you're looking at my
- 24:48performance today from a how was his, how, how are his objective
- 24:53journalism skills? Maybe I score highly there, but
- 24:56as I was watching this one nil, nil down the stretch, it's like
- 25:0170th minute, 75th minute. And you know, I love Orlando.
- 25:04I love the Orlando Pride and I was I was really, really looking
- 25:07forward to seeing some of the old gang this this week in San
- 25:11Jose. But right around the 70th minute
- 25:15I looked at that Gotham roster. I was like, damn it, I'd be
- 25:18interested to go talk to those players next week and see them
- 25:22in the final. You know, a, a handful of US
- 25:26possession team players on one side, a handful on the other.
- 25:29And then just see kind of like a, a star-studded, you know,
- 25:32kind of like final. And then I was just shook it
- 25:35off. I'm like, no, no, no, we, we got
- 25:37to we got to win this. We got to, you know, defend our
- 25:40title. But yeah, a very conflicting
- 25:42moment for your boy. I I just want to, I'll shout our
- 25:47pal out again at Astra. I never had those doubts.
- 25:49I wanted to see Orlando Pride win the entire time, but you
- 25:55know, but the Gotham FC, they do have a lot of players.
- 25:58They passed my test of looking at the roster and going.
- 26:01They got a lot of they got a lot of good players.
- 26:03So I'm I'm still excited for the final for a lot of our Internet
- 26:08pals who were like, you know, asking us, did you get your
- 26:11credential yet? Hope telling us they hope we get
- 26:14our credential. The NWSL came through.
- 26:17Do you know de Cespedes and Grant Angle are going to be live
- 26:20and in person in lovely San Jose, CA for the NWSL
- 26:26Championship, which we interchange and call the final
- 26:29because it is a final, but it's also, but, you know, respect to
- 26:32the league. It is called the NWSL
- 26:33Championship. Yeah, well.
- 26:35That's next weekend. Let's let's let's keep talking
- 26:37about this weekend where the semi championships went down and
- 26:41got no, I want to talk about when you talk about those those
- 26:45star, that's the star-studded Gotham players.
- 26:48One in particular that I want to zoom in on a little bit a little
- 26:52bit further. Who plays in goal on
- 26:55Kocherberger? Come on, who?
- 26:59I mean, you talk about moments, talk about moments.
- 27:02You know, you get the goal at 90 plus.
- 27:04What is it 5 or 6 for Jaden Shaw?
- 27:06I think 90 plus. Five.
- 27:07Yeah. 90 + 7. Sorry, 90 + 7.
- 27:10Jeez. 90 + 7 and then I think this one happens 90 + 9 maybe.
- 27:17And you could just see, I think Ovaya draws the foul.
- 27:21This one's way, way deeper than where Shaw was taking hers from.
- 27:25But you can see Marta completely locked in.
- 27:27I think she's yelling at Angelina at one point.
- 27:29Then she's yelling at the refs and then the refs are yelling at
- 27:31Roosevelt and I think Lily reel to back up or I don't know.
- 27:34It was it was a it was a really wild scene that you see Marta
- 27:36take a deep breath. You know, shit.
- 27:39And I'm and at that point I'm like, oh shit, this is going to
- 27:41be the greatest ball I think I've ever go into the area.
- 27:45And fuck if it wasn't an amazing ball into the area that gets
- 27:50headed by O Yani. And like all of the energy that
- 27:55Marta put on the ball just bounces right off O Yani and
- 27:59just continues on into the back corner, you know, of the net.
- 28:03And, you know, we we always joke about, you know, you and I about
- 28:08having the eye. Oh, I I could see.
- 28:10I could see that that one was, you know, a little bit off.
- 28:13I could see that that one was going in.
- 28:14I thought that was going in. I was like, I mean.
- 28:17And then, yeah. And then?
- 28:19You know, just from the angle too, it's like, you know, it's
- 28:21like right halfway line, you're looking right at the ball.
- 28:24And then you could just see burgers spring, you know, out to
- 28:28her right through the air and just, you know, dispense of it
- 28:34and it's over, you know, and then you see her kind of grab
- 28:36her knee and like, I'm just like, what the whole that might
- 28:40have been everything she had. You know, like, you know, she's
- 28:42like, but this is what she does. She just makes these
- 28:45championship saves in these massive, massive, massive
- 28:49moments. And I don't want to get ahead of
- 28:51myself. We'll talk about the final here
- 28:52in a couple minutes, but it's hard not to think about the
- 28:55final be like, damn, is somebody going to beat her in that final?
- 28:58Like, can somebody beat her in that final?
- 29:00Because I mean, she's, she's just on a different level right
- 29:03now. I mean, it was it was a double
- 29:07yell moment. I'm total, I'm 100% with you.
- 29:10You know, Yanni plays the header.
- 29:13I I like, I perk up and go oh, and then Burger makes the sale
- 29:19like Oh my God, like it's like it and it happens in such quick
- 29:23succession. I mean, she's falling backwards.
- 29:26She basically has to hit it up as she's diving like to get
- 29:31enough on the ball. Like how many times do you see a
- 29:34keeper in that spot? They get their MIT on it, but
- 29:38they're just all they're doing is the the momentum takes it and
- 29:41all they're doing is basically just popping it into the top of
- 29:43the goal and it still crosses the line.
- 29:46So I mean, it's a it's, she still gets a strong enough hand
- 29:49on it to bat it away. I mean, she's just unbelievable.
- 29:53I mean, we, we remember the performances in the 2024
- 29:56Olympics that we're talking about the hardware that she's
- 29:58been able to pull down when she's a bronze medalist in the,
- 30:01in the Olympics, you know, I mean, she's going to be gunning
- 30:06for that trophy. And how many other times have we
- 30:09talked about it? Sometimes you just get a keeper
- 30:11game and if you know if if the if the keeper looks unstoppable
- 30:18it for 90 plus minutes, then you could lose in these kind of
- 30:22single game scenarios. And who's more likely to look
- 30:26unbeatable for 90 plus minutes? The non Catron burger in this
- 30:29league I'm not sure. Anybody, man.
- 30:32And I think like just the the poetry of that moment where it's
- 30:36like on one end of the ball is Marta and on the end and you
- 30:40know, Marta's not the same. You know, it's not the same.
- 30:43It's not peak Marta, but in the playoffs, when it's just a
- 30:47single moment, I mean, there's no difference between Marta
- 30:51today and absolute peak Marta. She could do any possible any
- 30:54any conceivable thing that could happen.
- 30:57She's she's capable of doing and seeing those two players
- 31:01one-on-one end of the ball and then the other on the other.
- 31:03And it's like you look at the clock and you're like, what the
- 31:05holy shit, this is actually happening.
- 31:08I mean, what a moment. And you know, Berger just shout
- 31:11out to her like gets it done. I mean, I I I just loved that
- 31:14moment. And on a day when Gotham manages
- 31:17five shots, one on target, obviously the one, you know,
- 31:21Jaden Shaw, one shot, one shot on target, one goal like.
- 31:26And and they. They they get out of there with
- 31:28a win, you know, like, because even if that one goes an extra
- 31:3230, you have to favor Orlando in that extra period, right?
- 31:38With the, you know, the rest disadvantage, you know, the
- 31:42extra, the extra time last week. And like, you know, I mean, the
- 31:45longer it goes, I mean, the, the harder it's going to be for
- 31:48Gotham to kind of like, you know, pull one out.
- 31:51And I think that that that was a precise moment where the last
- 31:56funny moment. I'd like to kind of like, you
- 31:57know, break out the dumbbells every now and again when I'm
- 31:59watching a match just because I got a little extra energy.
- 32:02So, you know, it's hard for me to sit down.
- 32:05So, yeah, let me get a little workout in here.
- 32:07And right around 90, right around the in the 90s, I'm like,
- 32:11all right, this thing's going extra time, you know, and not a
- 32:13lot of shots happening. And when the foul gets called,
- 32:17you know, and I think, you know, Jen and Leanne were on it,
- 32:20they're like, oh, this is bad, this is a bad spot.
- 32:22And I was like, you're right, this is a bad spot.
- 32:25Like, you know, usually I'm like, right, well, but this one
- 32:28I was like way, way. And I was like, oh, this is a
- 32:31real, you know, and it, it kind of ruined my work.
- 32:34I had to work out through, through the post game.
- 32:37Not, not as not as lit here. Yeah, hard to hard to get.
- 32:41Yeah, hard to get jacked up for the for during the post match.
- 32:46You know, sometimes it's, you know, you got to kick on some,
- 32:50you know, I I don't know. I'm not sure.
- 32:52I'm not sure. What kind of lifting music are
- 32:54you, are you a rap guy when you lift or is it are you turning on
- 32:57Deftones or what are you doing here?
- 32:59I'm a rap guy. Yeah, yeah.
- 33:01Trap. Understand.
- 33:02Dirty trap shit, you know, just let's get grimy.
- 33:06There we go. I respect it.
- 33:08I like, yeah, I I mean I I go, I go back and forth there.
- 33:11There are a lot of good clip songs to lift to, but if you
- 33:14want to give me some like early 90s Soundgarden, like the really
- 33:17like super hard stuff, I can lift like 1.25 my Max if like
- 33:21somebody is just like screaming and raging on a guitar at the
- 33:24same time. But we digress.
- 33:26Speaking of raging. Like a little little rage.
- 33:28If we go back to the 90s, I mean, that's, that's a haunting,
- 33:32yes. Yes, yeah, yeah, no doubt.
- 33:35Put on Rage Against Machine, you might do 1.45 year Max.
- 33:39Yeah, no doubt. I'm not so into no doubt harder
- 33:43to. Lift to very sunny Orange
- 33:45County. Like punk ska music?
- 33:48Yes, I will say I could jump up to it.
- 33:53There you go, a little double Dutch who was out there double
- 33:58Dutching on the field. Wahane looks great coming on at
- 34:02halftime. I thought she changed.
- 34:04I felt like she kind of changed the complexion for the better.
- 34:08It's not like Orlando probably played terrible in the first
- 34:10half, but she she was. She was good.
- 34:13Corey Dyke was good. She was totally.
- 34:15But Oyane. Those crosses, I mean,
- 34:18offensively she's she's a very gifted player offensively.
- 34:21And I think when she came over, you know, physically I, I don't
- 34:25think she was kind of like, I don't know if she was in the
- 34:27shape or wasn't, you know, she wasn't in Orlando Pride or end
- 34:29to BSL shape probably wouldn't think about everybody talks
- 34:32about coming to end to BSL. I was like, oh, like the
- 34:34strength conditioning was like a different level.
- 34:36So she looked a little bit like that when she came over.
- 34:38And now she looks physically like everybody else and her
- 34:42crosses are like really dangerous and much needed for
- 34:48this Orlando side. She put a couple really, really
- 34:50nice ones in there and, you know, it's just tough like down
- 34:54the stretch, little, little under personneled.
- 34:57But everybody's dealing with that this time of year.
- 35:02Can't really take anything away from Gotham.
- 35:04But Orlando, I still, I still feel, feel really, you know,
- 35:08prideful, no pun intended, about how they played down the
- 35:11stretch, too, just because, yeah, you know, they looked, you
- 35:15know, the last time they played Gotham, I think.
- 35:16Flongus Lammer was in the YouTube comments talking about
- 35:20it was like, oh, well, you know, they they smacked them last
- 35:22time. And it's like, well, I didn't
- 35:23get the chance to respond, but I'll respond here that this was
- 35:25a few days after the band injury and they were just an absolute
- 35:30mental emotional shell of themselves.
- 35:32And like now this team looks completely different.
- 35:35This team looked like a team to your point last week that could
- 35:38have raised the trophy, could have easily got past Gotham and
- 35:42this one just didn't break their way.
- 35:43But I want to talk a little bit about the final, you know, so
- 35:47Washington, Gotham, not a lot to go on from, from priors from
- 35:54this season. Some.
- 35:57Similarities I think you know, like little top heavy talent
- 36:01wise, you know, got the Spanish coach, you know, got that Acella
- 36:04corridor, you know, action you sell it goes to DC right.
- 36:08I think it does anyway. Oh yeah, totally.
- 36:10What are you? What are you going to?
- 36:12Be looking like what sticks out to you this fine.
- 36:15Obviously we'll be in the building, so I get to ask you
- 36:18this, what's the first thing you're going to be looking for
- 36:20when these two teams lock up? I think it's going to be more
- 36:24midfield play, my good man. I mean, it's it's my peak
- 36:28fascination with Washington spirit.
- 36:30And then they're going to be, you know, they're going to go
- 36:33against some of the physicality of of Jaylen Howe.
- 36:38You know, Jaden Shaw is going to be you know, in there that
- 36:40obviously we know she's like an attacking style player.
- 36:45Is it is it just is it going to be a track meet?
- 36:48Like are you going to have Lavelle and Shaw just trying to
- 36:52run by, you know, spirits midfield?
- 36:56Are is is you know, Lacey Santos?
- 36:59Is she is she going to bring the physicality?
- 37:01Will Hal Hirschfeld? I think we could say probably
- 37:05more than likely, yes, they will.
- 37:06They probably will feel like they'll they'll need to, you
- 37:10know, and, and it's what's going to be I think sometimes when you
- 37:16have a final or a championship match like this, you can ask
- 37:20yourself, OK, who are our players who are going to have
- 37:23some, some big question marks who have never kind of played in
- 37:27this spot? Well, this Washington Spirit
- 37:30team now, obviously Cory Bethune was injured, so she did not
- 37:33appear in last year's final, But the rest of the, the majority of
- 37:37the rest of the team for Washington Spirit have played in
- 37:41a final and played in gigantic matches.
- 37:44And then like you said about Gotham FC, you think, you think
- 37:47Emily Sonnet is going to be super nervous before the final?
- 37:51I think she'll be the right amount of nervous because she's,
- 37:54she's lifted the World Cup before.
- 37:56She's, she's won a gold medal. They, you know, she's, she
- 38:00played in that 2023 final, just not for the bats.
- 38:02She played for the losing team. I can't remember who that was.
- 38:05It's not important. But the I, you know, I think
- 38:09what I'm, what I'm looking for here is I, I think the first
- 38:14half hour is going to be awesome.
- 38:16I don't think it'll be super cagey.
- 38:18I think it's going to be we're ready to go.
- 38:21Like each side is going to kind of walk in there and be like,
- 38:23we're ready to go win this thing.
- 38:25And then the other team's going to be looking at them saying,
- 38:27well, we're ready to go win this thing.
- 38:29Yeah. I love that and Gotham today,
- 38:32got off to a fast start, had some chances early.
- 38:35It makes me think about Mitch Perce because it makes me think
- 38:40about the early part of the game, but then also like the
- 38:41last 15 minutes of the game where Gotham was a little bit
- 38:48more patient, I'd say, and a little bit more, you know, I
- 38:52think I think that probably like they they developed the proper
- 38:56level of respect for that. Orlando defense was like, we're
- 38:59not going to zip, you know, zip, zip past his defense.
- 39:02Like we're going to have to actually like craft and kind of
- 39:04break them down and they start to kind of really focus on that.
- 39:07The the attacks got a little bit more intricate, a little longer,
- 39:10a little bit more strung out down the stretch.
- 39:12It's going to be interesting to see if a player like Mitch
- 39:16Purse, you know, can breakthrough, you know, like
- 39:21Shaw and Lavelle are are so talented.
- 39:25Astaire couldn't really get going today in this one.
- 39:29But I mean, even on her worst day, it's going to attract so
- 39:32much attention that there's such a tremendous value in that.
- 39:37The one thing I'm going to look at, though, is, is Gotham going
- 39:41to be able to get shots off today against Orlando?
- 39:45A good defense, five shots attempted, Roosevelt with two,
- 39:51and you have three other players with a single shot.
- 39:54You know, five shots is the number you'll see where where
- 39:56when a team is like really painfully overmatched.
- 39:59You don't really usually see that in a 5050 kind of coin foot
- 40:02match. So we're going to have to see if
- 40:04like Gotham can turn possession some of those passes that
- 40:09they're able to connect into like legit chances.
- 40:13And I mean, that Washington background to be tricky.
- 40:16Kingsbury's, you know, she could be aggressive.
- 40:19It's not going to be easy. But on the flip side, you know,
- 40:23that Gotham back line, you know, Jess Carter, Sonnet
- 40:27Kochenberger, we talked about it's not going to be easy that
- 40:31way either. So it's it's almost like I'm
- 40:34going to be the first thing we'll be looking for is like who
- 40:36who's winning the tempo game? Who's winning the field position
- 40:40battle? Who's slowly like chipping away
- 40:44at like we're starting to like gain.
- 40:47You know, we're trying to, we're starting to get deeper and
- 40:49deeper, penetrate further and further with this possession,
- 40:52with these attacks, because I think that's how the goal is
- 40:55going to come. I think it's going to be a
- 40:57culmination of good, good offense.
- 40:59I don't know that we're going to see somebody just give away a
- 41:03goal. Yeah, I think that's fair.
- 41:06I think that's certainly possible.
- 41:08And then, you know, in in the range of outcomes, we also have
- 41:13what if Trinity Rodman produces a a singular moment of magic?
- 41:18What if Astaire produces like that, that header that she hit
- 41:22in the, I think it was against Portugal in the in the EUR.
- 41:27I can't remember if it was a header of it, but it was like
- 41:29some kind of like wild spinning touch to open up the scoring for
- 41:33Spain. So yeah, I mean, we just get, we
- 41:37just get all kinds of possibilities here.
- 41:40Can I, can I do some live producing if I may?
- 41:45We are going to like we mentioned, we're going to be
- 41:47there. We're going to record a.
- 41:50Show on Friday and immediately publish it.
- 41:53Obviously the final is going to be on Saturday.
- 41:54Everybody should listen to that. It'll be all the information you
- 41:57could possibly ever hope for. We're going to be at media day,
- 41:59we're going to talk to some players, talk to the managers,
- 42:02you know, make sure that we're in giving you the most informed
- 42:05coverage on this here Internet for this NWSL Championship can.
- 42:12How about we wait until we talk to the players, talk to the
- 42:16managers and make our predictions on that show so we
- 42:19have the full dossier of information?
- 42:24See that that's some responsible not only journalism, that's what
- 42:29some responsible production from you.
- 42:33So that's that's why I appreciate you excellent call.
- 42:36We're going to do that. We're going to put put a pin in
- 42:38the old prediction, you know, probably good for me.
- 42:41Gives me a chance to kind of lick my wounds.
- 42:43I'm I'm on, I'm on a icy cold, terribly frigid streak of
- 42:48predictions. That's OK.
- 42:50We've got, well, you know, like you, everybody knows that the
- 42:52the championship slash final counts for I'm going to go Chris
- 42:56Bourbon here counts for 30 picks.
- 42:59There you go. I like that.
- 43:01That that makes sense. Yeah.
- 43:04I mean, what? No, what?
- 43:06I mean, it's the biggest match. I mean, can we can we can we
- 43:09argue that and then you know, what am I gonna like?
- 43:12I went one for 2 so I got one more prediction correct And what
- 43:17I think I said, I think I said spirit 2 thorns 1 and it was 2
- 43:22Nils not not terrible, But yeah, I mean, you know, we're we're
- 43:30not here to we're here for the for the great takes, like the
- 43:33the predictions, you know, less important.
- 43:36I think I cosign that. All right, man.
- 43:40Quick episode calendar. As mentioned, the NW Cell
- 43:44Championship going on Saturday night.
- 43:46Your boys will be in San Jose this week on the ground
- 43:49reporting live Champions League. Turns out they're still playing
- 43:53that next week your boys are going to be doubly busy.
- 43:58Another 9 matchups return for match day four.
- 44:02Wednesday and Thursday. We'll be back at some point to
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- 44:21All right, man, massive week of football.
- 44:24I think we've properly done it. Is there anything else you want
- 44:27to hit before we get out of here?
- 44:29No, I think that's it, man, I can't even remember the last
- 44:33time we saw each other in person.
- 44:34So that's going to be cool. Looking forward to that.
- 44:38Obviously first time the ITC has covered a football match in the
- 44:42same building together. Looking forward to that as well.
- 44:45And then, you know, I mean, if you if you look at like
- 44:48star-studded rosters and obviously the the bitter long
- 44:54held rivalry between these two clubs, I think we've got
- 44:57ourselves in a plus NWSL championship on deck.
- 45:02Very excited for it. Yeah, like I said, it's going to
- 45:05be star-studded. It's going to be awesome.
- 45:08There's going to be moments. I cannot wait.
- 45:11Yeah, we'll be in the press box. Should be a ton of fun.
- 45:14And yeah, we're just a few days away now, so I'm excited there's
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- 45:45my coast as well. Mr. Grand Angle for now.
- 45:49Now we did it for real, man. We we made it to the final.
- 45:51We literally made it to the championship.
- 45:54We will be there in a few days and nobody I'd rather do it with
- 45:58than my guy. You know, I appreciate you row.
- 46:02Likewise, buddy, and we couldn't do it without all you watching
- 46:05dropping knowledge in the comments.
- 46:08We we always appreciate that. Let us know.
- 46:10I mean, do people have food recommendations for San Jose?
- 46:14I know like I know it's not far from from your neck of the
- 46:17woods. I know you're going to have the
- 46:18wrecks. Maybe somebody might have like a
- 46:19secret spot they could put us on game four.
- 46:22Like, if people are going to be around, you know, let us know
- 46:25what's you know, who's hanging out, what's happening.
- 46:29You know, I'm not the most like, social guy out there.
- 46:32So I don't know if I'll be there.
- 46:33But if you want to tell us, if you want to invite us somewhere,
- 46:35like, you know, we'll see what's going on.
- 46:36We'll see what the schedule looks like.
- 46:38I don't know. But really the important part is
- 46:40the football. I'm looking forward to it and
- 46:43I'm looking forward to talking about it with all of you.
- 46:45And we will see you all next time.