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A Nine-Foot-Tall ET · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. I call
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Speaker 1: this episode a nine-foot-tall ET. This is the story of
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Speaker 1: a woman I'll call Jill Wheeler. That's not her real name.
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Speaker 1: She requested to be anonymous. But she's had lifelong experiences
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Speaker 1: with extraterrestrials, different types, and has a very unusual and
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Speaker 1: interesting story to tell. Jill was born in 1960 in Carbondale, Illinois,
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Speaker 1: and had her first encounter at age 5 in 1965.
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Speaker 1: At this time, her mother had actually covered the windows
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Speaker 1: of their house with tinfoil. This is an important detail,
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Speaker 1: as we shall soon see. So Jill wakes up one evening.
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Speaker 1: She's going through a lot of growing pains at this time.
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Speaker 1: So she climbs out of her crib and goes into
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Speaker 1: the living room looking for her dad so he can
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Speaker 1: massage her legs. Unfortunately, it's too late. Everyone's asleep. And
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Speaker 1: she sees something weird coming through the wall. She quickly
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Speaker 1: hides under the couch. But it doesn't do any good
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Speaker 1: because whoever or whatever is coming through the wall knows
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Speaker 1: where she is. and I'll just let Jill describe what happened.
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Speaker 1: As she says, this is going to sound really stupid,
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Speaker 1: but I looked across to the opposite wall and I
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Speaker 1: saw this line of teddy bear looking things coming through
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Speaker 1: the wall. There were maybe five or six of them.
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Speaker 1: They literally looked like teddy bears. Anyway, they knew where
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Speaker 1: I was. I remember hearing in my head, come out.
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Speaker 1: So I came out and they put me in front
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Speaker 1: of them and we marched down the hallway where I
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Speaker 1: crawled back into my crib. So back in her crib
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Speaker 1: and her room filled with these figures, Jill stared at
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Speaker 1: them and watched them as they transformed from teddy bears
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Speaker 1: into what we now know are gray aliens. As Jill says,
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Speaker 1: they changed. They no longer looked like teddy bears. There
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Speaker 1: was one who was maybe five feet tall, and he
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Speaker 1: looked like what I guess you would call a gray,
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Speaker 1: only taller. He was skinny, spindly, had a big head,
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Speaker 1: big eyes. The other ones were smaller than he was.
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Speaker 1: The tall gray walked over to Jill and had a
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Speaker 1: question for her. As Jill says, he demanded to know
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Speaker 1: why the aluminum foil was up on my window. I
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Speaker 1: told him it was because my mother put it up
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Speaker 1: there to keep the heat out from the sun. And
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Speaker 1: he did not accept that explanation. And he asked me again.
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Speaker 1: And I told him again. And he still didn't accept it.
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Speaker 1: And he looked at me and he asked me again.
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Speaker 1: And I told him again. And by then, I was
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Speaker 1: getting a little scared and a little irritated. And finally,
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Speaker 1: the third or fourth time I told him, he looked
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Speaker 1: at me for a couple of seconds, went, uh-huh. And
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Speaker 1: then he turned around and went back to whatever they
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Speaker 1: were doing in the middle of the room. So Jill
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Speaker 1: looks to the middle of the room at this point
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Speaker 1: and all the greys are there in the middle of
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Speaker 1: her room setting up what looks like a pedestal with
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Speaker 1: a black box on it. And one of the greys
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Speaker 1: walks up to her and tells her to go get
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Speaker 1: some water, which Jill did. She went to the bathroom,
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Speaker 1: got a little bathtub pail, filled it with water and
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Speaker 1: brought it to them, and they asked her to do
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Speaker 1: it again. As Jill says, and I quote, So I
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Speaker 1: went to get some more water, and this happened at
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Speaker 1: least ten times. Finally, I was so tired of crawling
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Speaker 1: in and out of bed, going to get the water,
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Speaker 1: taking it back and giving it to him, doing it
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Speaker 1: over and over, that the last time he asked me
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Speaker 1: to do it, I sat in the middle of my
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Speaker 1: crib and I said, No, I'm not going to do it.
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Speaker 1: I'm tired. and he looked at me with these eyes
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Speaker 1: you could not believe. It was just an intense kind
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Speaker 1: of looking right through me. I could feel that he
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Speaker 1: was looking into my mind to see if that was true,
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Speaker 1: if that's how I really felt. He did that for
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Speaker 1: a short amount of time, and he kind of withdrew
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Speaker 1: whatever was coming out of his eyes to look into
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Speaker 1: me with. It wasn't anything physical. I could just feel
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Speaker 1: that he was looking in there. So he seemed to
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Speaker 1: accept it and he turned around and went back to
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Speaker 1: what they were doing. So they played around with this
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Speaker 1: black box on this pedestal for just a few more
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Speaker 1: moments and then suddenly packed up all their equipment and
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Speaker 1: walked through the walls and they were gone. That was
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Speaker 1: Jill's first encounter. It was shortly after this encounter that
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Speaker 1: Jill realized went to the doctor and was diagnosed with tuberculosis.
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Speaker 1: This was quite shocking to her and her family. They
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Speaker 1: had no idea how she had contracted this disease. They
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Speaker 1: contacted a lot of people that she had associated with.
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Speaker 1: There was really no source for it that they could find.
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Speaker 1: But following this diagnosis, Jill had to go to the
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Speaker 1: doctor every year and take lung x-rays. This would later
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Speaker 1: become significant. So for some years, she had no other encounters.
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Speaker 1: But then one day when she was about nine years old,
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Speaker 1: the greys came back. And Jill had no fear at
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Speaker 1: this point. In fact, she remembers this first encounter and
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Speaker 1: the ones after it being very positive. And I'll just
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Speaker 1: let Jill again describe what happened. As she says in
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Speaker 1: her own words, that night, I remember something came and
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Speaker 1: got me out of my bed. It was not unpleasant.
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Speaker 1: Whatever it was, it told me things. I learned things.
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Speaker 1: I don't remember what they were, but I remember that
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Speaker 1: they were just amazing to me. They were just wow.
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Speaker 1: I thought they were so important, and this went on
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Speaker 1: for a while. Here's where her story gets even more interesting.
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Speaker 1: The ETs told her that any time that she was
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Speaker 1: ready to have contact All she had to do was
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Speaker 1: give them this little secret sign, this little signal, which
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Speaker 1: involved her putting a blanket on the foot of her
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Speaker 1: bed all rolled up. As Jill says in her own words,
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Speaker 1: I was to make a signal with a little blanket
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Speaker 1: that I had. They actually asked me to make this
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Speaker 1: signal with this blanket, to fold it up at the
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Speaker 1: bottom of my bed if it was all right to
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Speaker 1: come and take me that night. If not... then I
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Speaker 1: wasn't to put the blanket there. So I'd put the
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Speaker 1: blanket there maybe every few days, something like that. So
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Speaker 1: these encounters went on for years. From around age 9
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Speaker 1: to 12, Jill estimates that there were hundreds of them.
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Speaker 1: But whatever it was the Grays were teaching her, she
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Speaker 1: could not remember. As she says, and I quote, I
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Speaker 1: would go somewhere, and I know I did, And I
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Speaker 1: know that I was taught things. And I know that
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Speaker 1: they were really, really important. I felt it was really
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Speaker 1: important at that time. It was not scary. It wasn't evil.
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. And it was so important to me
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Speaker 1: that when I got back, I would try to write
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Speaker 1: something down, some phrase that would help me remember what
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Speaker 1: I had just learned. I started to keep a paper
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Speaker 1: and a pencil next to my bed. And as soon
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Speaker 1: as I put the pencil on the paper... I would
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Speaker 1: get maybe a couple of letters out, and the whole
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Speaker 1: thing would be gone from my mind. And I would
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Speaker 1: sit there, frustrated, just, oh my God, I can't believe this.
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Speaker 1: And I tried night after night, every time it happened.
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Speaker 1: I tried so hard, it got so that as soon
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Speaker 1: as I realized I was back in bed, I would
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Speaker 1: grab the pencil and paper that very second. And as
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Speaker 1: soon as the pencil hit the paper, it would just
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Speaker 1: go poof, gone, completely out of my head. After nearly
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Speaker 1: three years of trying, Jill finally did get one message.
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Speaker 1: It turned out to be her last encounter. As Jill says,
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Speaker 1: the last one of those that I remember was, I
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Speaker 1: remember being told when I was about 12 years old,
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Speaker 1: I would forget everything. I would not have this experience anymore,
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Speaker 1: and I would forget about what I had been taught.
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Speaker 1: Later on, it would be restored. And sure enough, when
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Speaker 1: I was 12, It stopped happening and I forgot about it.
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Speaker 1: So that was a series of encounters that occurred from
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Speaker 1: age 9 to 12. It was around this time that
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Speaker 1: Jill had her first UFO sighting. Her family had moved
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Speaker 1: from Illinois to a little town in Nebraska, a small
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Speaker 1: rural town. It was around 1972. And one evening, Jill
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Speaker 1: and her neighborhood friend went outside and were laying on
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Speaker 1: the station wagon looking at the stars when suddenly this
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Speaker 1: huge triangular ship came overhead. It was just a few
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Speaker 1: hundred feet high, totally silent, and absolutely unexplained. As Jill says,
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Speaker 1: it was so big that it blocked out the moon
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Speaker 1: It blocked off the stars, and it was moving very,
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Speaker 1: very slowly. it. They didn't talk about it. They felt
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Speaker 1: strangely sedated after this incident. As Jill says, We didn't
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Speaker 1: really talk too much about it. We kind of said,
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Speaker 1: what's that? And we watched it, and that's about all
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Speaker 1: we said, which is kind of strange if you think
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Speaker 1: about it. So they didn't tell anyone about it, and
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Speaker 1: they kind of just forgot about it. And after that,
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Speaker 1: Jill's life carried on as normal for years. She went
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Speaker 1: to school, went to college, got married. She and her
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Speaker 1: husband bought a house. She got pregnant, had her first kid.
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Speaker 1: Not long after that, she had her second kid. And
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Speaker 1: then weird things started to happen. She went to the
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Speaker 1: doctor for her x-rays of her lungs and got a
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Speaker 1: huge shock. The doctor called her back and wanted to
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Speaker 1: see her so that he had found something in her lungs.
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Speaker 1: And I'll just let Jill describe this incident. As she says...
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Speaker 1: The next day I got a call from the doctor
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Speaker 1: and not to be alarmed, but they had found something
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Speaker 1: in my lung and they don't know what it is.
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Speaker 1: I had a six-month-old baby. My husband and I were
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Speaker 1: pretty alarmed. We thought, cancer, tuberculosis, what is it? And
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Speaker 1: the doctor said he had no idea. He couldn't even
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Speaker 1: give me a guess. So we went in and we
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Speaker 1: sat down in his office and he showed me that
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Speaker 1: I have a metal ring in my left lung. You
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Speaker 1: didn't know what it was. You knew it was metallic.
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Speaker 1: You didn't know where it came from or how it
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Speaker 1: could possibly have gotten in there. I mean, we talked
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Speaker 1: about every possibility there could be. I had never had
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Speaker 1: any kind of surgery other than tonsils. There's no way
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Speaker 1: I could have inhaled something that big. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: think I would remember. It was fairly large. She asked
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Speaker 1: her doctor, well, are we going to go in and
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Speaker 1: take it out? The doctor told her, no, what we
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Speaker 1: are going to do is watch it. What I want
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Speaker 1: you to do is come in every three months for
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Speaker 1: the next year and we will take x-rays and we
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Speaker 1: will see if anything is developing around it or if
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Speaker 1: there are any abnormalities. So that's what they did. And
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Speaker 1: there weren't any other abnormalities. She felt no symptoms. The
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Speaker 1: only thing they noticed, the only change was that tissue
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Speaker 1: did start to accumulate and grow around this ring. But
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Speaker 1: there was no foreign body reaction. She felt fine. So
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Speaker 1: they just kept it in there. And it's still in
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Speaker 1: there to this day. And they don't know what it is.
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Speaker 1: So Jill had another baby. And this is when more
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Speaker 1: weird things started to happen. For as long as Jill
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Speaker 1: could remember, she had a very strange symptom. The tip
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Speaker 1: of her nose was really, really sensitive. This little lump
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Speaker 1: had appeared at some point. She's not sure when. It
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Speaker 1: seemed like it was always there. But it was so
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Speaker 1: sensitive to the touch, it would cause excruciating pain, that
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Speaker 1: she simply didn't touch it. And then one day she's
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Speaker 1: changing the diaper of her newborn baby, and this thing
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Speaker 1: just fell out of her nose. And when she looked
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Speaker 1: at it, she got a shock because it was not normal.
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Speaker 1: As she says, and I quote, I had just finished
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Speaker 1: changing my son's diaper, and I stood up, and as
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Speaker 1: I stood up, this thing fell out of my nose
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Speaker 1: and into my hand. I looked at it, and it
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Speaker 1: looked like a spool of thread. The spool the thread
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Speaker 1: is on, except really, really tiny, like the size of
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Speaker 1: a half grain of rice. It was about that size,
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Speaker 1: and it was white. She immediately flicked it onto the
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Speaker 1: carpet and then realizing what she had done and how
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Speaker 1: unusual this thing was, she got down on her hands
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Speaker 1: and knees and searched for it, but was never able
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Speaker 1: to find it. And it was following this that Jill
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Speaker 1: started to get really sick. She had gained some weight
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Speaker 1: from her third pregnancy and was somewhere around 200 pounds,
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Speaker 1: but following this apparent implant coming out of her body,
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Speaker 1: she started to lose weight rapidly She started to become
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Speaker 1: very weak. She started fainting first once or twice a day.
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Speaker 1: This was around 1992. This went on for three years.
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Speaker 1: So around 1995, she says she was fainting about four
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Speaker 1: or five times a day. She would eat, get a
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Speaker 1: rush of energy, and then lose all her energy and faint.
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Speaker 1: She did, of course, go to the doctor. The doctors
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Speaker 1: thought she might have diabetes. She does have diabetes in
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Speaker 1: her family. But no, she did not have diabetes. They
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Speaker 1: didn't know what she had. Jill did her own research,
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Speaker 1: and she thought it was some form of hypoglycemia. The
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Speaker 1: doctors weren't sure. They just gave her a sort of
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Speaker 1: cocktail of vitamins and told her that they would watch
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Speaker 1: her condition. But as Jill says... I was afraid to eat.
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Speaker 1: By the end of three years, I was just at
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Speaker 1: my wits' end. I was at the end of my rope.
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Speaker 1: I was very, very, very sick. So she was losing
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Speaker 1: a lot of weight. Things were going downhill. She didn't
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Speaker 1: know what she was going to do. In 1995, she
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Speaker 1: had the single most unusual UFO experience of her entire life.
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Speaker 1: She had woken up in the middle of the night
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Speaker 1: to go get a peanut butter sandwich and some juice.
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Speaker 1: in case she needed to eat it to stabilize her
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Speaker 1: blood sugar. And the next thing she knows is she's
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Speaker 1: walking across her living room. She's no longer in her house.
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Speaker 1: She's someplace else. And it looked like this huge stadium
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Speaker 1: with a domed ceiling and indirect lighting. And it was
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Speaker 1: just gigantic. And again, I'll let Jill describe in her
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Speaker 1: own words where she found herself. As Jill says, it
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Speaker 1: was like inside a domed stadium, that kind of roof.
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Speaker 1: It was all white. It had backlighting in there. The
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Speaker 1: walls were all lit up, and light was coming down
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Speaker 1: from the ceiling, but you couldn't see any light fixtures.
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Speaker 1: And it was just huge, just humongous. All throughout the place,
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Speaker 1: as far as I could see where I was sitting,
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Speaker 1: were cubicles, aisles and aisles of cubicles, like you'd find
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Speaker 1: if you walked into a bank. or business. These cubicles
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Speaker 1: were blue in color and looking down at the floor
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Speaker 1: she saw that it was carpeted with what looked like
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Speaker 1: a tough industrial type carpet and she's looking around trying
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Speaker 1: to orient herself and as she says, I was sitting
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Speaker 1: there and I began to notice what was in my
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Speaker 1: immediate area. I was inside a cubicle and I was
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Speaker 1: sitting on a long steel table like you'd find in
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Speaker 1: any doctor's office. I was wondering, what the heck am
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Speaker 1: I doing here? What is this? And I looked up,
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Speaker 1: and across the aisle from me in another cubicle was
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Speaker 1: sitting a man. He had on a plaid shirt, blue jeans,
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Speaker 1: a belt, and those thick-soled work boots. He looked about
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Speaker 1: my age, which would have been about 35. He looked
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Speaker 1: at me. I looked at him. He was completely human-looking.
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Speaker 1: I had no idea at this point that I was
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Speaker 1: anywhere other than a human place, but I didn't know
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Speaker 1: where I was. I had never been in a place
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Speaker 1: like that. I didn't know how I got there. I
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Speaker 1: was just really confused. So she and this man start
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Speaker 1: to talk to each other. He introduces himself as Cooper.
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Speaker 1: She gives her name, and they're both dazed, disoriented, almost sedated.
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Speaker 1: And they're trying to figure out where the heck they
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Speaker 1: are and what is going on. When as she's talking
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Speaker 1: to this man, Cooper, he suddenly falls unconscious. His eyes
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Speaker 1: are still open, but he's like dazed, hypnotized, and apparently
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Speaker 1: unable to move. This made her quite frightened. She heard
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Speaker 1: a sound coming from the corridor and got a real shock.
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Speaker 1: Looking down the corridor, she saw someone that she first
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Speaker 1: thought was human, except as he got closer, he clearly wasn't,
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Speaker 1: and he was about eight or nine feet tall. She
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Speaker 1: thinks nine. And I'll just let Jill describe what happened next.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a human being, a very tall,
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Speaker 1: very well-developed human being, until it got close enough for
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Speaker 1: me to see its face. Then I knew it wasn't human.
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Speaker 1: It had a cape on, It had on clothing that
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Speaker 1: was tight. I can't remember the material. I just remember
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Speaker 1: that I could see its muscles through its clothing. It
19:38
Speaker 1: had a belt on. And as it got closer, I
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Speaker 1: saw the face. And it was huge. Its forehead was way,
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Speaker 1: way too high to have been a human being. And
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Speaker 1: its hair. was bright orange and sticking straight up about
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Speaker 1: two inches. It was kind of like thin straw or
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Speaker 1: wheat in texture. There was something about its chin, too.
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Speaker 1: It was way too big and way too broad. And
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Speaker 1: that's when I realized something was really, really wrong. And
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Speaker 1: at that point... I knew that it just wasn't human.
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Speaker 1: I was terrified. I was horrified. I thought this thing
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Speaker 1: was coming to kill me. He was just a few
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Speaker 1: feet from me and I was screaming and screaming. I
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Speaker 1: thought I was going to die. I've never been so
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Speaker 1: terrified in all my life. Jill can now see that
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Speaker 1: there is a tray filled with what appears to be
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Speaker 1: surgical instruments right next to her. this nine-foot-tall being walks
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Speaker 1: into her cubicle and says, Okay, Jill, now it's your turn.
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Speaker 1: And he takes his cape and wraps her body tightly
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Speaker 1: up in it, and then he picks up these instruments
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Speaker 1: that look like little silver bells. And he takes one
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Speaker 1: bell and puts it on her head or near the
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Speaker 1: pancreas and the liver, and he took the other bell
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Speaker 1: and slid it underneath her left side, near what she
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Speaker 1: believes are her kidney and adrenal glands. And when he said, okay, Jill,
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Speaker 1: now it's your turn, this was Jill's response. He didn't
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Speaker 1: say it in a caring, kind, compassionate way. He didn't
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Speaker 1: say it in a mean, cruel, evil way. He just
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Speaker 1: said it like he was talking to a lab rat.
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Speaker 1: So after this figure placed these bell-like instruments on Jill's body,
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Speaker 1: she started to feel this energy pulsating from these instruments
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Speaker 1: into her body. This made her even more terrified, and
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Speaker 1: she was screaming in fear. She tried to say the
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Speaker 1: Lord's Prayer, but she was too terrified to even remember it,
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Speaker 1: and The next thing she knows, she's back in her
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Speaker 1: living room. She's breathless. She's sweaty. She's hyperventilating. She's standing
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Speaker 1: up and she's quite scared. She immediately runs up to
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Speaker 1: her husband and tries to wake him up. He will
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Speaker 1: not wake up despite her shaking him very hard. She
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Speaker 1: runs to wake up her children. They won't wake up.
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Speaker 1: It takes her basically 20 minutes to wake up her family.
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Speaker 1: She tells her husband what happened. He's absolutely baffled, mystified, concerned,
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Speaker 1: but very supportive of her. He believes her. He can
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Speaker 1: see that she's very upset, but he doesn't know what
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Speaker 1: to make of this experience. And for that matter, neither
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Speaker 1: did Jill. Her body was quite sore. She went to bed.
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Speaker 1: The next morning, she wakes up and goes into her
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Speaker 1: child's room, and gets a real shock as she says
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Speaker 1: the night after it happened I was putting my son
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Speaker 1: to bed he was three years old then he looked
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Speaker 1: outside the window was right above his head and he
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Speaker 1: looked at the moon and he said mommy I went
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Speaker 1: on a ship to the moon last night and Jill
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Speaker 1: looked at him with amazement and said you did honey
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Speaker 1: where did you go and he said went on ship
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Speaker 1: went on ship and he pointed to the moon And
23:35
Speaker 1: she said, you did? When? He said, last night. So
23:40
Speaker 1: that freaked her out. As Jill says, I didn't ask
23:43
Speaker 1: him anything else. I was horrified. But here's where her story, again,
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Speaker 1: gets even more interesting. Because following this experience in this
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Speaker 1: weird place with this nine-foot-tall figure, Jill comes back. Her
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Speaker 1: body's very sore. But in the days that followed, she
24:06
Speaker 1: noticed something really remarkable. She was no longer fainting. In fact,
24:13
Speaker 1: she felt quite good. Her soreness lasted about two weeks,
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Speaker 1: but she started to gain weight. She started to be
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Speaker 1: able to eat normally again. She was no longer fainting.
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Speaker 1: As Jill says, at the end of that week, when
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Speaker 1: I finally realized what's going on here, I'm not getting
24:34
Speaker 1: sick anymore. I connected it to what had happened that night.
24:39
Speaker 1: At that point, I began to wonder, who was that?
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Speaker 1: And why me? Why would they come and heal me?
24:46
Speaker 1: Over the next month or so, I began to lose
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Speaker 1: a little bit of the fear and get a great curiosity.
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Speaker 1: They hadn't hurt me. They had fixed me. I still
24:57
Speaker 1: didn't feel any warm, fuzzy feelings towards them because that's
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Speaker 1: not the impression they gave me. I was a lab rat.
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Speaker 1: That's what I felt like. I don't know what I
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Speaker 1: am to them. Why would they come and heal me
25:09
Speaker 1: like that? I don't know. I really have no idea.
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Speaker 1: And I would like to know. So this was when
25:19
Speaker 1: Jill really connected this all to the UFO phenomena. She
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Speaker 1: was absolutely perplexed. She wants to know what this figure was.
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Speaker 1: This This was why she contacted me. She wanted to
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Speaker 1: know if I had ever heard of anyone describing this
25:35
Speaker 1: kind of figure. And I had to tell her, no,
25:37
Speaker 1: I didn't. I had heard of other healing cases, but
25:41
Speaker 1: hadn't heard of a story quite like hers. So this
25:46
Speaker 1: was very perplexing to her. And she wasn't long after
25:51
Speaker 1: this that she had another really dramatic UFO sighting. She
25:56
Speaker 1: was driving with a family friend I'll call David. And
26:01
Speaker 1: it started out with a weird premonition. As Jill says,
26:06
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I had this feeling like he
26:09
Speaker 1: needed to pull off the road because something very, very
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Speaker 1: bad was going to happen. And she turned to David,
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Speaker 1: who was driving, and said, you need to pull off
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Speaker 1: the road. And he asked, why? Do you need to
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Speaker 1: go to the bathroom? And she said, no. And he said, well,
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Speaker 1: I'm not pulling over. And Jill said, okay. And she says,
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Speaker 1: I tried to ignore the feelings. It would go away
26:31
Speaker 1: and then it would come back. And each time it
26:34
Speaker 1: came back, I felt worse and worse. The third time
26:38
Speaker 1: I tried to ignore it, it actually was going to
26:41
Speaker 1: make me throw up. So she turned to her friend
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Speaker 1: David and said, you've got to pull off the road
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Speaker 1: right now. Get off the road at the very next exit.
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Speaker 1: Do it now. And seeing how upset David Jill was.
26:58
Speaker 1: David pulled off at the nearest exit into a truck
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Speaker 1: stop and turns to her and says, OK, now what?
27:06
Speaker 1: And Jill felt embarrassed. The feeling she had was completely gone.
27:11
Speaker 1: And she looked at her friend David and said, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just had a really, really bad feeling
27:18
Speaker 1: that you had to pull off the road right now.
27:22
Speaker 1: So they got back on the road and started driving,
27:25
Speaker 1: and this is when this huge UFO appeared. It was
27:29
Speaker 1: a very large, round, silver object. And Jill shouted out, look,
27:37
Speaker 1: oh my God, it's a UFO. Look, up in the sky.
27:41
Speaker 1: And her friend David completely ignored her, pretended she hadn't
27:46
Speaker 1: said anything. And she turned to him and said, what's
27:49
Speaker 1: the matter with you? Look up in the sky. And
27:53
Speaker 1: David said, I'm not going to look. Jill was shocked,
27:58
Speaker 1: and she told him again, look, look at that thing.
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Speaker 1: It's just hanging in the air, floating. Don't you see
28:05
Speaker 1: that silver thing floating there? Look. And David got angry,
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Speaker 1: and he said, I'm not going to look. So Jill
28:13
Speaker 1: started to get angry as well. She said, why? Why
28:18
Speaker 1: aren't you going to look? She was afraid it was
28:20
Speaker 1: going to disappear, and she really wanted another witness. And
28:24
Speaker 1: David shouted at her, I am not looking. She said,
28:29
Speaker 1: what is the matter with you? Hurry up and look.
28:32
Speaker 1: It's going to be gone. Can't you just look and
28:35
Speaker 1: tell me what you think it is? And he said, no,
28:38
Speaker 1: I'm not going to look. Stop asking me. So Jill
28:42
Speaker 1: stared at this object. She was very confused by her
28:45
Speaker 1: friend's reaction. As she says, I couldn't understand why he
28:49
Speaker 1: was angry or why he wouldn't look. So I was
28:52
Speaker 1: looking at it and as I watched it, it just
28:55
Speaker 1: went zoom and it disappeared off into the distance and
28:59
Speaker 1: it was gone. And she turned to David and said, well,
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Speaker 1: it's gone. What's the matter with you? Why wouldn't you
29:05
Speaker 1: look at it? And her friend replied, I don't want
29:08
Speaker 1: to talk about it. So she didn't and they never
29:12
Speaker 1: discussed it again. She could tell that David was angry
29:17
Speaker 1: and upset and by this object. She wondered if he
29:21
Speaker 1: had had encounters, but she never got to follow up
29:24
Speaker 1: on it because a few years later, David passed away.
29:29
Speaker 1: So that was another very strange incident that she was
29:33
Speaker 1: never able to explain. And it wasn't that much longer.
29:40
Speaker 1: after that you know some years about eight years or
29:43
Speaker 1: so that she had another very strange encounter was 2003
29:50
Speaker 1: she went to bed as normal and woke up and
29:54
Speaker 1: again she was in a different place And again, I'll
29:59
Speaker 1: just let Jill describe in her own words what happened.
30:03
Speaker 1: As she says, I was in the same kind of
30:06
Speaker 1: place with this domed, white-walled kind of area. I was
30:10
Speaker 1: walking down a black rubber runner rug. I came to
30:14
Speaker 1: the end of this long table, and there were these
30:17
Speaker 1: not-quite-human-looking beings sitting at the table, maybe four on each side.
30:23
Speaker 1: They had light-colored kind of thin hair down to shoulder length,
30:27
Speaker 1: They had on light-colored clothes. I didn't know who they
30:31
Speaker 1: were or why I was there. It felt very real,
30:34
Speaker 1: and I was just waiting. I don't know for what.
30:38
Speaker 1: I assumed there was something they wanted me there for.
30:40
Speaker 1: And they said something about this child being very intelligent.
30:46
Speaker 1: And I thought they were talking about my son, because
30:48
Speaker 1: he is intelligent. And I said, well, what do you expect?
30:52
Speaker 1: He's got the Wheeler genes. And as soon as I
30:55
Speaker 1: said that, These beings turned and looked at me with
30:59
Speaker 1: such a pitying expression, like, you think that is intelligent?
31:05
Speaker 1: It was like these people considered that kind of intelligence
31:08
Speaker 1: to be the intelligence of an animal, like a dog.
31:12
Speaker 1: It was that kind of withering, patronizing, pitiful look. At
31:18
Speaker 1: this point, one of these beings stood up, led Jill
31:22
Speaker 1: out of the room into the room right by it,
31:25
Speaker 1: the adjacent room, And she first noticed the floor, which
31:29
Speaker 1: looked like hard plastic, she said, with a raised circular pattern,
31:34
Speaker 1: kind of like a giant bath mat, is how she said.
31:37
Speaker 1: And this being escorted her to the center of the
31:41
Speaker 1: room where there was this platform. And on this platform,
31:45
Speaker 1: there was a little girl. And she estimates this girl
31:49
Speaker 1: was about five years old. And the being told Jill,
31:54
Speaker 1: this is your child. And as Jill says, I walked
31:59
Speaker 1: up to the platform and the little girl, and I
32:02
Speaker 1: looked at her. She did not look any different from
32:05
Speaker 1: a normal human child, except she was kind of frail looking.
32:09
Speaker 1: She didn't look like my kids, for instance, who are
32:12
Speaker 1: very strong and robust. She looked frail and kind of pale.
32:16
Speaker 1: She had really fine, stringy, white-colored hair. Her face didn't
32:21
Speaker 1: look any different than a human face, except there was
32:25
Speaker 1: something about her eyes. They were little bit bigger and
32:29
Speaker 1: they were blue Jill's memory becomes very hazy at this
32:33
Speaker 1: point she remembers becoming very emotional and asked to hug
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Speaker 1: the child and she did the two of them embraced
32:42
Speaker 1: and at this point Jill asked the child why don't
32:45
Speaker 1: you come home with me and the child replied no
32:51
Speaker 1: I belong here And Jill felt this enormous wave of
32:55
Speaker 1: love and sadness sweep over her. But at the same time,
33:00
Speaker 1: she somehow understood. She turned around and began to exit
33:05
Speaker 1: the room. And the next thing she knows, she's waking
33:09
Speaker 1: up in bed and the experience was over. And that
33:13
Speaker 1: was her last UFO experience up to this date. And
33:20
Speaker 1: this haunted her. This is when she really began researching
33:24
Speaker 1: the UFO subject, when she contacted me to find out
33:28
Speaker 1: if there were other people who had had experiences like her.
33:32
Speaker 1: She did research herself and found out that the teddy
33:35
Speaker 1: bears she saw were likely screen memories. She read about
33:39
Speaker 1: many other people who had described seeing a black box.
33:43
Speaker 1: She even found another case involving people who put tinfoil
33:46
Speaker 1: up on the windows. It's very strange. I wonder why
33:50
Speaker 1: the ETs were so concerned about that. Did it block
33:53
Speaker 1: them from surveilling her or being able to come into
33:58
Speaker 1: her room? They did seem quite upset about it. But
34:02
Speaker 1: Jill is absolutely certain that she's a contactee. She doesn't
34:08
Speaker 1: know where she was taken to. She feels like it
34:10
Speaker 1: might have been an underground base, certainly in that big
34:14
Speaker 1: stadium-like area. with the industrial looking carpeting and the cubicles
34:19
Speaker 1: but she has no idea she has no idea why
34:23
Speaker 1: she was healed she says she's nobody special she's just
34:28
Speaker 1: a housewife from Nebraska her husband is I believe a
34:32
Speaker 1: mechanic so I don't know it's a very strange series
34:36
Speaker 1: of events with some very strange and unique details though
34:42
Speaker 1: many details I've certainly heard before Screen memories are somewhat familiar.
34:48
Speaker 1: The black box is a detail I've heard in many
34:50
Speaker 1: other cases. Certainly being healed is something I've heard many
34:56
Speaker 1: times from various contactees. And also hybrid babies as well.
35:03
Speaker 1: But other details, you know, I've never heard of anyone
35:06
Speaker 1: describing a 9-foot-tall, essentially human-looking ET with orange spiky hair.
35:15
Speaker 1: I don't know. I did cover Jill's story in my book,
35:19
Speaker 1: Inside UFOs. It's one of the strangest encounters I've ever
35:24
Speaker 1: had the privilege to research. And I think that's really
35:29
Speaker 1: why I wanted to do this episode for you today
35:32
Speaker 1: because it's just such a strange and unusual encounter. Jill
35:37
Speaker 1: absolutely insists this is 100% true. As she says, I
35:43
Speaker 1: know what I saw. That's about all I have to give.
35:46
Speaker 1: I will take a lie detector test. Anything anybody wants.
35:52
Speaker 1: So yeah, I am not sure what to make of
35:55
Speaker 1: this encounter other than I think that it has a
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Speaker 1: lot of details I've heard before. The hybrid babies, the implants,
36:06
Speaker 1: the screen memories, all of this stuff are details I've
36:11
Speaker 1: heard again and again It's a very unusual encounter. I
36:14
Speaker 1: think it has quite a bit to say about the
36:17
Speaker 1: nature of this phenomena, which again is why I wanted
36:19
Speaker 1: to do this episode for you today. I hope you've
36:22
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I really appreciate you watching. And until next time,
36:27
Speaker 1: keep having fun.