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Frozen Pond Banter - NHL Trade Deadline · Banter with the Boys

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  We have Mr. Kyle here today.
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  How you doing Kyle?
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  Doing good man, doing good.
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  Can't wait to talk some puck.
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  Finally, here we go.
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  Oh, nothing but puck over here, I'll tell you what.
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  Yeah, very excited to continue that.
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  Love seeing that beautiful face, but we got ourselves a first timer here.
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  We got the Mr. Smeltzer in the building.
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  Mr. Smeltzer, how are you doing there sir?
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  Hey, I'm doing pretty good Nick.
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  Thanks for the invite here, super excited to get going and just ready to talk some puck.
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  Love to hear it, I'll tell you what.
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  As always, we always like to take a moment and make sure that everybody understands that
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  this whole setup we have going on wouldn't be possible without the wonderful work of
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  a beautiful man named Kevin.
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  Kevin, thank you so much for everything you do.
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  This man is making sure we are out there bantering all day long.
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  Let's go ahead and break into why we are all here today.
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  It is a big day today.
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  We have ourselves the big daddy of them all, the NHL trade deadline.
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  And with that came a whole bunch of news around the league.
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  So we are here to go ahead and just banner about that and talk about some big time moves.
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  The first one I feel is one of the biggest ones of the whole entire day.
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  Obviously Mr. Patty Kane going to Broadway.
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  That's a huge one.
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  The Rangers had to give up a decent amount for this.
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  Patrick Kane itself, long time Blackhawk member, finally going in for Stanley Cup.
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  So I'm wondering what you're thinking about that Mr. Kyle.
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  I really like it for the Rangers.
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  I believe it was a second round pick going in return to the Blackhawks, which for Kane
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  that's a steal I think.
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  I mean a second round pick and I think it's kind of like the flurry trade where if they
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  win the first two rounds, I think it becomes a first.
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  But either way, I think it's a really good deal for the Rangers.
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  And obviously, you know, he's already got that connection with Artemi Panarin.
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  I mean, Breadman and Kane are on a line.
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  They're going to go ham and it's going to be fun to watch.
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  And not just with the Kane addition too, they also acquired Teresenko.
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  And I think they traded their 2023 first round pick.
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  So they're going all in this year.
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  But yeah, I really like the move.
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  They're going to be dangerous for sure.
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  And they're definitely a cup contender.
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  Tyler, what are your thoughts?
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  Do you think that, I mean, are we all in agreement that Patrick Kane is a Hall of Famer?
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  Yes.
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  Kevin nodding yes as well.
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  So for me, being a wild fan, Patrick Kane leaving the Blackhawks is amazing because now
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  that's finally over.
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  I mean, yeah, he was for sure.
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  100 percent.
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  So now he's going to a team that already has Panarin, already has a Banaget, Trojek.
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  I mean, there and Adam Fox.
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  I mean, yeah, looking right now, Adam Fox has 57 points.
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  That's ridiculous.
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  And I mean, yeah.
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  And then Teresenko adding Teresenko to that.
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  The Rangers are obviously trying to make a run.
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  Yeah.
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  And Panarin has 69 points.
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  Nice.
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  Think of that power play, guys.
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  Artemi Panarin, Kane, Teresenko, it's a Banaget, Adam Fox.
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  That's like Colorado Avalanche, Joe Sackett days.
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  Unreal.
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  How?
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  You know who brings that all together?
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  Shusterkin.
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  My guy Shusterkin, dude, he's going to carry them through a deep playoff run.
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  Am I saying they're going to win the Cup?
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  I don't know.
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  But that's a whole nother discussion.
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  But I think he's going to carry them.
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  Bar.
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  That man did it as is with nothing around him.
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  And now you just threw an All-Star team in front of him.
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  I just wow.
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  They went all in at the right time.
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  I just nothing about it says they gave up too much.
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  They have so much young talent right now.
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  It's just such a smart move.
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  Yeah, I love the move.
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  Speaking of big moves, we got one that involves so many moving parts.
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  Timo Meyer to the Devils.
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  Devils also receive a fifth round pick with many other prospects.
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  Get themselves a first round 2023 pick, a conditional first round pick on 2024, depending
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  on how they do in 2023 and 2024.
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  They also got a seventh round pick and some prospects, but this has so many moving parts.
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  Kyle, please tell me you got some information on this.
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  I still think it's a win for the Devils.
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  Timo Meyer, he's a hell of a player.
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  He's a power forward, 31 goals, 21 assists.
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  My gut feeling, you know, with the price that they paid, it was a hefty price.
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  But I think Fitzgerald is going to sign him long term.
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  I don't think this is just for a rental if you're paying this much.
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  You know, that's giving up prospects.
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  And then also the 2023 first round pick and then the 2024 first round pick.
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  So I have a feeling they're going to sign him long term.
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  And it's, you know, I really like the move, even though they paid a lot for it.
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  I mean, the Devils, they got such a good young core with they have Hughes, Bratz, Neishir,
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  Mercer, and now they're adding Timo Meyer.
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  They are adding, they're adding a really good young core to the group.
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  And Fitzgerald gets the W on this one, in my opinion.
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  I mean, how many more first round picks do the Devils need realistically?
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  You know?
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  Yeah, huge pick.
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  What you thinking over there, Mr. Schmelz?
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  I mean, I think it's interesting, right?
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  I mean, you do have Jack Hughes already on the New Jersey Devils leading the scoring
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  with 74 points.
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  And then you also have defenseman Dougie Hamilton sitting there with 58 points.
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  I mean, that's huge.
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  And now you just add Timo to that.
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  I mean, that's a win.
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  At the end of the day, you're adding a goal score.
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  I mean, really a playmaker, actually, not just a goal score.
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  I mean, they're just going to have to see how it goes.
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  Especially considering the fact that the East is so deep this year.
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  It is absolutely ridiculous how good the East is.
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  And I think Fitzgerald kind of realized, you know, once they saw Kane and, you know, or
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  Teresenko going first and then Kane, a lot of people are just kind of stacking up in
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  the East.
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  And, you know, Timo Meyer is just a solid add.
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  And they have a shot this year.
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  You have such a huge point on that.
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  I mean, Rangers are sitting in third with 79 points.
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  It's unreal.
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  It's so competitive over there right now.
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  And the fact that they just bolstered that huge team.
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  Yeah, this is a must do trade with the Devils.
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  So that was to me, that was a phenomenal trade when it's all said and done.
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  Talk about another huge trade.
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  Oh, man.
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  O'Reilly over to the Maple Leafs.
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  They gave up quite a bit to be able to get Mr. O'Reilly gave up a couple.
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  The Blues gave up a couple prospects.
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  Blues gave up a first round, 20, 23 pick, third round, 20, 23 pick and a second round,
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  20, 24 pick.
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  While the Wild receive a fourth round pick.
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  Blues retain 50 percent of O'Reilly's contract in the Wild are going to be retaining 25 percent.
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  So there's a lot of moving pieces here.
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  We need our expert to break this down.
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  So I'm just going to hand this one straight over to Mr. Kyle.
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  I wouldn't call myself a hockey expert.
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  I do have an elite hockey mind, though.
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  So I will say that.
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  But I do like this trade for the Leafs.
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  Kyle Dubas back at it, wheeling and dealing.
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  The GM's doing a hell of a job over there, too.
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  You know, acquiring Ryan O'Reilly, another Wild killer that's I'll take it.
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  He's out of the division.
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  He's a great center man.
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  He wins every single face off.
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  I swear to God, the Wilds.
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  I'm just going to talk a little bit here about the Wild.
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  But yeah, we're fans, obviously, but he would win every single draw.
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  And I think he had like a 70 percent face off percentage against us.
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  It was ridiculous.
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  But anyway, a solid ad for Kyle Dubas.
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  Their center position is absolutely stacked.
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  They have Austin Matthews, John Tavares.
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  Now adding Ryan O'Reilly, there's no excuses anymore for the Leafs.
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  They have to make a push here.
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  They got to win or at least go to the Eastern Conference or win the Cup because they're
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  rosters.
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  So they got stars everywhere.
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  I mean, Marner, Nylander, Matthews, Tavares.
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  I mean, God, I'd kill to have this roster if I were GM of the Wild.
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  But overall, Kyle Dubas just I thought it was a really good pickup and it's you know,
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  it's a first round pick.
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  Obviously, you know, they still got a young roster.
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  So I don't think I mean, giving up a 20-23 sucks.
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  But with the roster they have, it's I mean, it's worth it for me.
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  Yeah, I'm not going to lie.
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  I fully agree with you on that.
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  It is it's a phenomenal trade for both sides.
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  I think both sides came with big time wins on this trade.
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  It was smart on on many different levels for exactly as you said.
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  That kind of brings me to my next point.
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  We might as well jump into our trade deadline winners because I think this is probably where
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  we are going to be able to kind of take to things and really break down what all happened
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  over this last week because this trade deadline was just unreal.
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  Move after move after move, picks after picks being traded.
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  So with all these moving pieces and all the transitions from team to team, this is usually
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  the moment we want to take a second and break down each winner and loser of the NHL trade
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  deadline.
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  Schmelzer, what do you got, my man?
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  So I don't mean to kind of repeat myself, but I definitely got to go with the New York
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  Rangers here.
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  I mean, they're definitely adding two proven goal scores.
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  I mean, yeah, they're both aging.
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  They both had injury issues here the past few seasons, especially Teresank.
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  I mean, Kane too, really, honestly.
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  But you're still adding two proven goal scores to your roster.
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  I mean, that can't be a bad move, right?
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  Now no matter what I say next year, I still think they are my winner 100 percent.
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  But why does this trade almost make it feel like their window to win a Stanley Cup got
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  smaller?
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  So like Panarin's like I just looked, I think Panarin's 31 years old, Zabantajad's 29 years
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  old.
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  Arguably, that's kind of your prime, right?
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  But adding Kane, adding Teresanko, who are also aging, like does it feel like their window
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  got smaller?
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  Like I think they got better.
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  I think they're still a winner here, but it feels like their window to win the Cup may
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  have got smaller.
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  Does that make sense?
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  Do you know what I'm saying, anybody?
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  I fully agree.
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  I mean, they had to give up so many picks just to be able to pay for all these players.
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  It's going to be to me long term felt.
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  But man, it's a year for them to do it.
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  Is it Cup or bust?
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  Yes.
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  On that trade, I would say Cup or bust for the New York Rangers.
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  Oh, yes.
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  I agree.
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  Very interesting time to do it too.
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  Shasturkin is at a very solid time, but I don't call him at his prime.
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  That's why I didn't quite see it coming.
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  It makes sense.
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  It's a huge win, like you say, but I didn't expect them to go all in on both.
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  They're trying to win now straight up.
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  They're trying to win this year.
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  They know they got a good tendy in Shasturkin.
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  My opinion, best tendy in the league.
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  I love my guy Vasilevsky in Tampa Bay.
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  I do, but I think Shasturkin is overtaking him at this point as the best tendy in the
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  league in my opinion.
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  But Vasilevsky is close second, but they're definitely trying to just win the Cup this
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  year.
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  I think look for them to make a really deep run.
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  They're not going to go down easy.
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  For sure.
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  I also had Rangers at the top, adding just high caliber players in Kanan and Teresenko.
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  It's a huge move and it's pretty much cup or bust with this team, but I do think they'll
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  make a huge push in this year's Stanley Cup playoffs.
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  My only thing about it is to be doing it at such a crazy time in that Eastern Conference
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  right now.
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  I mean, with the Bruins so dominant, with New Jersey such young talent, and with them
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  kind of sitting third in the division with even looking at wild card wise, gosh.
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  I guess to me it makes sense.
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  It is cup or bust, but I just was like, wow, man, I didn't expect that.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  Yeah, I'm looking at the conference standing.
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  So there's still six in the Eastern Conference.
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  I honestly think they could battle and still become out on number two.
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  She's passing the Bruins, that's a fact, but the Rangers have a real shot.
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  I mean, you kind of asked or touched on the timing of it and it might be kind of weird,
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  but at the same time it's New York.
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  It's a big market, their fans want big moves and that's what happened.
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  Broadway definitely got a whole bunch more dingers.
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  I had the Predators as another winner in this trade deadline.
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  They acquired a first round pick for, I don't even know who this guy is, Janat.
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  Is that how you pronounce it?
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  I don't know.
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  Anyway, I think he's a bottom six guy.
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  Tampa Bay, holy crap, what are they doing?
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  They gave away a 20-25 first, a second 20-24, a third round 20-23, a fifth round 20-23 for
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  this guy.
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  For a bottom six player, I don't know what they're thinking there.
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  So that's a haul for a bottom six player.
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  I'm surprised David Poyle got so much there.
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  And also they traded away Grandland for a second.
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  They flipped Grandland for a second and then they also had another first round pick in
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  20-23 from the Echolme trade that they sent to the Oilers.
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  So they did a pretty good job and also they also acquired another second round pick for
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  Nino Niederreiter.
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  I think they added like 10 draft picks for three slappies, three slappy players.
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  So David Poyle did a hell of a job in acquiring all these picks.
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  I don't know how he did it, but it was a work of art.
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  But yeah, I think the Predators are a huge winner in this trade deadline for sure.
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  Do you think the Predators are still, you know, have an opportunity to make the playoffs
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  even after these moves?
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  I mean, they're at 66 points right now.
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  So they're sitting at about six, they're six points back of Winnipeg today of the second
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  wild card spot.
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  I mean, yeah, they have a shot at the wild card, but they're going to get completely
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  dominated in the first round if they enter the playoffs.
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  Like they're not going to go anywhere.
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  But the future is bright.
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  They did acquire all these picks.
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  They do have some young talent coming up.
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  But they don't stand a chance at all this year.
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  Sweet.
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  Yeah.
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  So the future of Smashville is good to go is what you're saying.
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  Yeah.
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  The future of Smashville is looking bright, man.
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  Talking about slappies over here, I think Nick has something to say.
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  Talk about slappies.
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  For a team that got rid of a couple older slappies, the Blues are the winners in my
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  books.
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  They got rid of Teresenko, they got rid of O'Reilly and got themselves a good amount
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  of draft picks to be coming into the 2023 and 2024 draft time ready loaded to dig full
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  advantage of the talent that is coming up very soon.
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  So I think the Blues did it at the right time, traded away for the right prospects and who
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  knows might be a gamble, but I just think that they're coming away with a good future.
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  And I hate to say it.
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  I'm a Wilde fan.
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  The last thing I want to do is see the Blues with a future coming.
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  But they're my winner itself.
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  Anybody got any opinions?
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  You know, the Central is in a few years, it's going to be crazy.
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  It's going to be so competitive with the Wildes number one farm system.
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  And then you got all these picks going the other way with the Predators, the Blues and
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  hell the Blackhawks, they could end up with Connor Bedard.
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  Like they're in the Connor Bedard sweepstakes right now.
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  And that scares the hell out of me.
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  Like I do not want a generational talent.
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  I don't want another generational talent going into the Central division.
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  It's been so competitive every single year.
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  It's hard to sneak in.
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  You look at the Wilde and it's hard to make that Wilde card team because the division
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  has always been so talented in my opinion.
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  Yeah, speaking of being competitive and like you're talking how Chicago is in the sweepstakes,
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  the Connor Bedard sweepstakes.
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  I mean, the Blues also have two first rounders this year.
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  And that also kind of sucks going forward as those Wilde fans because they can make
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  a couple moves there as well.
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  Do you know, Nick, was Teresenko going to be a free agent at the end of this season?
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  Like was this was this one of those moves like trade them while you can get something
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  instead of getting nothing?
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  That's a very interesting point because yes, he is an unrestricted free agent in 2023.
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  So essentially they got rid of 50% of his salary, got a couple of draft picks and a
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  prospect out of it.
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  That's just a win in my books for the Blues.
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  Enough about enemy territory.
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  As you might have guessed, we are some local Wilde fans.
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  With that being the case, this is the moment where we go local and we break down another
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  winner.
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  Might be bias, might not be.
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  But Kyle, what you got over there?
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  I want to know what's on your mind.
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  I think Billy G did a great job at the deadline acquiring Johansson.
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  I was kind of like, why?
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  But then I told I had a conversation with Nick when it happened that there's got to
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  be something there's got to be something more.
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  Billy G's got something cooking down the road there, which led to the Greenway trade.
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  And what a trade that was.
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  Getting a second round pick and I think fourth or fifth, a nice little throw in there.
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  What a steal.
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  You know, I was a big believer in the big rig, as they say.
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  You know, he had he showed potential at Boston.
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  I really liked his game as a big power forward.
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  He had some skill and he could use his body.
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  Well, he did that occasionally here for a couple of games, kind of vanished like a ghost,
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  in my opinion.
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  He's 26 now, I believe.
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  You're not going to he's not going to get any better.
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  He's just another slappy Charlie Coyle 2.0.
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  You know, I was a big believer in Jordan Greenway, but maybe a change of scenery is is for him.
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  And I hope it works out for Buffalo, but Billy G, just a big dub on that trade for sure.
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  Honestly, low key, I think Buffalo did kind of win that trade as well.
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  I think it's a win win for both teams.
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  And I know I'm the only person with that opinion in this room right now full of a bunch of
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  wild fans.
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  But here's the deal, right?
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  Like if you're Buffalo, you're already actually doing OK.
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  And I'll talk about them later.
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  I think they can make a playoff push.
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  But you're adding a guy with size, somebody that was, you know, a highly touted prospect
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  for a while in the NHL.
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  The whole league knew about him.
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  And you got him for a second round pick and fifth round pick.
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  He hasn't been great for the wild this season.
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  We all know that Kyle shaking his head over here.
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  But change of scenery.
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  Like you said, he's 26.
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  He's still in a contract for two more years.
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  So he needs to know right now that these two years are kind of his proof of years.
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  I think if he does do it, I could see Buffalo resigning him.
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  I mean, he's somebody that you want on your team as long as he finds his game again, because
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  he is off right now.
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  But I think it's a potential win for Buffalo on this low key.
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  He I think he only has what, eight, six or eight points or something like that.
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  It's not very high.
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  Forty two games.
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  Very invisible.
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  We saw it.
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  The thing that bugs me is that he has his I see a lot of potential in him.
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  Big size.
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  You know, you mentioned that he'd power forward, but he just didn't do it.
• 23:55
  And Billy G before the deadline was like, hey, hey, Jordan, you need to wake up.
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  You need to or else I'm trading your ass.
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  And that's what happened.
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  You know, he I think he's got the like a passive attitude.
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  He's kind of like he's not a bad guy, but he's just kind of a guy that's just like he, you
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  know, he's just like passive.
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  You know, you know what I mean?
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  He's straightforward, right?
• 24:22
  He's straightforward.
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  And that's one thing I really like about him.
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  Who is straightforward?
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  Billy G. Oh, straight shooter.
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  Straight shooter, straightforward.
• 24:32
  But what I I want to know, why did you text me when I texted you about Marcus Johansson?
• 24:41
  You're like, well, the only reason why it would make sense is if we get rid of Greenway.
• 24:47
  Touch on that.
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  Like, I don't know how you're just always right.
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  I am an elite hockey mind, Nick.
• 24:55
  But that being said, you know, even going through the season, you heard about Jordan
• 25:01
  Greenway potentially being shopped.
• 25:04
  That's what happened.
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  But, you know, when you add Marcus Johansson, then you acquire Gustav Nyquist.
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  That was another one.
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  So after after that deal went down, I'm like, OK, Greenway Greenway's got to be gone.
• 25:18
  Like Billy G.'s got something cooking here.
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  And that's what happened.
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  He he waited it out.
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  He got a good deal.
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  He got a second round pick.
• 25:24
  Yeah.
• 25:25
  So second round pick and a fifth round pick for Jordan Greenway.
• 25:29
  I, you know, I thought it was going to be way less.
• 25:32
  I thought it was going to be like a bag of pucks for God's sakes.
• 25:37
  Like he could have gone for a fifth.
• 25:39
  I think a fifth.
• 25:40
  I would have took a fifth or six for him.
• 25:42
  Right.
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  The way he was playing, because no one really saw the value.
• 25:46
  But credit to Billy G. He waited.
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  He wanted a second round pick minimum.
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  And that's what he got.
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  Kudos to him.
• 25:56
  I would have never guessed a second round pick for sure.
• 26:00
  Yeah.
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  Ultimately, I still agree with you.
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  I think it's still a win on the trade.
• 26:05
  But like, you know, you just saw Greenway like the first 10, 15 games of the season.
• 26:09
  He was actually using his big body the way he should have been and protecting the puck
• 26:14
  and driving to the net and doing things he should be doing.
• 26:18
  And it's crazy that I'm sitting here praising him for those things in those 10, 15 games
• 26:24
  when I mean, you shouldn't be praising NHL player for playing the game like you're like,
• 26:29
  you know what I mean?
• 26:31
  But I think like that flash of those games, you know, still shows the type of player he
• 26:36
  still can be.
• 26:37
  He was still, you know, dropping guys.
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  I mean, he's obviously going to be on your checking line, but he can still have he still
• 26:42
  has the skills to put the puck in the net.
• 26:44
  So that's why I still think it's a little bit of a win for Buffalo.
• 26:47
  And Greenway.
• 26:48
  Yeah.
• 26:49
  Like you said earlier, he was doing fine.
• 26:52
  You know, during the start of the season, he looked pretty good.
• 26:57
  But the thing that just really pisses me off is that like if you're that big and got that
• 27:02
  skill and you can kind of manhandle anybody, why aren't you doing that consistently?
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  And you're getting paid millions of dollars.
• 27:10
  I'm sitting here.
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  I'm five, four.
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  I'm a solid five, four.
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  And my driver's license, I'm like, I put five, eight down to round up a bit because it's
• 27:19
  math.
• 27:20
  If I was Jordan Greenway, like I would just manhandle everybody.
• 27:27
  I would literally use my body.
• 27:30
  I'd get in the, you know, get in the dirty areas.
• 27:33
  You couldn't you.
• 27:34
  I mean, how can you move a six, six frame?
• 27:36
  I don't even know what he weighs.
• 27:37
  It's got to be to 10 to 15 to 21, you know, around there.
• 27:43
  It's it's it's hard to move.
• 27:46
  I would kill to be that size.
• 27:48
  My God.
• 27:50
  But yeah, I've seen, you know, good riddance.
• 27:52
  I wish him well.
• 27:53
  But at the end of the day, he's he's on my slappy list for sure.
• 27:59
  While slappy list, you heard it first here.
• 28:03
  Greenway out of here.
• 28:06
  So if we're going to be talking people being out of here, we might as well talk about the
• 28:10
  negative side of the trade deadline.
• 28:13
  Let's talk some losers.
• 28:15
  I figure I come in with my hot take here.
• 28:19
  We got for me the penguins.
• 28:21
  I think the penguins tried to make some lackluster moves at a time where they just are not competitive
• 28:30
  enough to be trading things away towards their future.
• 28:37
  I don't understand why they made the moves.
• 28:41
  They did.
• 28:42
  I just especially after seeing all the big names going to their exact conference, trying
• 28:51
  to act like you're going to be competitive now just makes no sense to me.
• 28:56
  I get it's Crosby.
• 28:57
  I get it's an Evgeny Malkin.
• 28:59
  But there's just so many things that makes no sense to me.
• 29:06
  Please clarify.
• 29:07
  Somebody clear.
• 29:08
  Definitely the penguins took a big fat L on this trade deadline acquiring Granny.
• 29:16
  We call him Granny here in mini.
• 29:19
  Mikhail Grandlin.
• 29:20
  He goes to the penguins for a second round pick.
• 29:25
  I don't know about that one.
• 29:26
  He's eight.
• 29:27
  I don't know what his age is now.
• 29:28
  I think he's like 33, 32, 30, maybe older than that now.
• 29:34
  But yeah, I don't know why they would.
• 29:36
  If he was the only one available, I could maybe see why they had that.
• 29:41
  But us Wild fans kind of know what Grandlin brings right now.
• 29:48
  The penguins are an aging roster.
• 29:52
  I don't see them going deep at all into the playoffs.
• 29:58
  They do have Crosby that's still Crosby, but with the aging roster, with Malkin, Letang,
• 30:10
  Zucker, they got guys that are mid 30s and the game is only getting faster.
• 30:18
  And it's kind of, I feel like the penguins are trending, finally kind of trending in
• 30:25
  the downfall, but they still got Crosby.
• 30:28
  So I fully agree with you because when it comes to the Mikhail Grandlin thing, the one
• 30:34
  thing that really kind of set him out and difference from the rest of everybody else
• 30:40
  was his speed was really that those are the only thing that kind of kept him semi-relevant.
• 30:45
  And now he's kind of pushing to that point where it's going to be losing a step and versatile.
• 30:50
  He's pretty versatile.
• 30:51
  He plays center, he can play wing, but and he's got he's got good bounce.
• 30:55
  He's got a good eye.
• 30:56
  It's just, I feel like it's making a weird move giving up, just giving up too much for
• 31:05
  nothing.
• 31:06
  I mean, I feel like they had to get a player just because the East is absolutely ridiculous
• 31:13
  this year.
• 31:14
  So acquiring someone, maybe a Hex doll, their GM was kind of like in that, oh shit, I got
• 31:23
  to make a trade because everybody else is making a good trade and Grandlin was to them
• 31:30
  their only option.
• 31:31
  That's kind of, I kind of, I just don't see why though, but at the end of the day, that's
• 31:37
  what they did.
• 31:39
  Yeah, they took a big fat L in this trade deadline and they're not, they're not going
• 31:45
  to make the finals for sure.
• 31:49
  Last but not least, we have our final topic that we're going to be talking about tonight.
• 31:53
  We decided to put ourselves into a moment and take a risk here.
• 31:59
  We're going to decide who we think is going to be the underdog of the year, who's going
• 32:04
  to make the push in the playoffs, who's going to be that eighth seed that makes a deeper
• 32:09
  run than most people expect.
• 32:12
  I can already tell Schmelz is just itching, itching to give us our opinion.
• 32:17
  So you know what, I'm just going to, I'm going to let him start us off here.
• 32:21
  Hey, so I mean, I've already mentioned them a few times tonight, honestly, but the Buffalo
• 32:27
  Sabres honestly are my dark horse.
• 32:29
  So right now they're sitting at 66 points.
• 32:33
  That's four points behind the Islanders for the second wild card and the Islanders are
• 32:37
  only one point behind Pittsburgh.
• 32:39
  So we already, we just touched on Pittsburgh.
• 32:42
  We all know what they're looking like.
• 32:45
  I absolutely think Buffalo can jump both those teams, get a wild card spot, make the playoffs.
• 32:52
  They got a couple of good playmakers on their team and I think they're young goaltender,
• 32:56
  bear with me here because I had to actually look up how to say his name, but Uko Pekka
• 33:02
  Lukinen, their 23 year old goaltender is showing flashes of what he can actually become.
• 33:08
  And I would absolutely love to see him in the playoffs, get some playoff experience
• 33:12
  and just see what happens.
• 33:15
  They're a couple of weeks away from getting Alex Tuck back.
• 33:19
  I think that's going to be a huge addition back to their lineup as well as their defenseman
• 33:25
  Dolan.
• 33:27
  So I think again, I think that's just going to be huge once they get those two guys back.
• 33:30
  I think they're going to go on a run and make the playoffs for sure.
• 33:33
  Yeah, that's a big point on Alex Tuck.
• 33:37
  Even him plays early years in Minnesota, I hated the moment we let him go, but that is
• 33:45
  a huge man coming back in that lineup and you make some huge points on that team.
• 33:50
  As for me, I kind of feel like my dark horse is going to be the Senators.
• 33:56
  Senators have some big time talent on that team that just, you know, not many people
• 34:01
  are really quite fully taken too serious this year.
• 34:04
  I think that they still have a good shot at being able to make a push with them sitting
• 34:11
  at 66 points, just like your fellow Buffalo Sabres are sitting.
• 34:17
  It's a perfect time for them to be able to make a push with that Matthew Kachuk system
• 34:21
  that they have just put into place.
• 34:24
  So I feel like they are the team to make the push.
• 34:29
  What are you thinking?
• 34:30
  You know what's going to happen with Ottawa is they're going to be sitting in what maybe
• 34:35
  I like to call a stink hole, maybe that's just a cribbage remark there.
• 34:39
  But I think Ottawa is going to barely miss out on the playoffs because Buffalo is kind
• 34:43
  of sneaking above them.
• 34:44
  So I think that's just how it's going to work.
• 34:47
  You're not that crazy by that mindset.
• 34:50
  It really is a toss up between these two.
• 34:52
  I feel like they both have just as much talent between each other.
• 34:57
  Fans didn't get too crazy aggressive during the trade deadline, which I kind of like to
• 35:01
  see for them.
• 35:03
  But I just I feel like something's flowing for once over in the Northland up in Canada.
• 35:12
  But yeah, I mean, that's what I got.
• 35:15
  So a team that I think is going to make a pretty good push is the Winnipeg Jets.
• 35:19
  I think they're very sneaky.
• 35:20
  They got a high octane offense.
• 35:23
  Blake Wheeler still pretty good.
• 35:26
  Dubois is good.
• 35:31
  They picked up Nino Niederreiter, which I thought was a solid, you know, that fits kind
• 35:36
  of the Jets team for sure.
• 35:41
  They got Oh, Ehlers, Kyle Connor.
• 35:44
  I mean, they got speed.
• 35:46
  Shifely we're not talking about Shifely at all.
• 35:48
  But this is a team that I think is is going to make a serious push.
• 35:54
  And Hellebuck, I think, you know, that's he's a goaltender that's that I think is going
• 36:00
  to get pretty hot.
• 36:02
  So us Wild fans need to watch out for the Jets.
• 36:08
  I think this year, you know, they've been an interesting team.
• 36:13
  I've always thought they had all the talent in the world to to go far.
• 36:19
  But I think with Paul Maurice exiting and with their new coach now, I think, you know,
• 36:27
  a change was needed.
• 36:29
  And, you know, it starts with the coach.
• 36:32
  But yeah, you got all these high end players.
• 36:35
  I would also kill to have that kind of star lineup.
• 36:39
  They got a bunch of potential.
• 36:41
  But yeah, I would watch out for the Jets.
• 36:43
  I was just going to say I was kind of agree actually agreeing with you.
• 36:47
  I'm not changing my tone.
• 36:49
  Buffalo still my dark horse.
• 36:50
  But the Jets definitely have the goaltender to do it.
• 36:54
  Hellebuck.
• 36:55
  And honestly, for me, if you haven't noticed already, I'm already a goaltender, a homer
• 37:00
  a little bit.
• 37:02
  But to succeed in the NHL playoffs, I mean, you need a hot goaltender.
• 37:06
  And that's just a fact.
• 37:07
  And Connor can absolutely carry a team.
• 37:09
  Yeah, I definitely agree.
• 37:10
  I mean, as soon as you said Winnipeg Jets, an exclamation mark just went off my head.
• 37:16
  I was like, oh, gosh, I did not even quite even think about that.
• 37:20
  So that is like the definition of that dark horse that I just point valid down to the
• 37:26
  T. Great points.
• 37:28
  Thank you, sir.
• 37:29
  I really appreciate it.
• 37:30
  I mean, I am an elite hockey mind, not some sloppy.
• 37:36
  But thank you again.
• 37:37
  Well, that just about does it for all of our topics today on the NHL trade deadline episode.
• 37:43
  Thank you for listening.
• 37:45
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• 37:48
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• 37:52
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