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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 139 | Top 30 Visits, Who Do You Want at No. 5? · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: And welcome in it is Jags am JP Sadrick in
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  Speaker 1: for Kay Stevens.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a busy.
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  Speaker 1: Show ahead on a relatively non busy week.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a word?
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  Speaker 1: A lot to get to though, Let's get right to
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  Speaker 1: it and start into the big things today, starting with
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  Speaker 1: thirty days to the NFL Draft. Brian Sexson, I know
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  Speaker 1: you're fired up to go to Green Bay.
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  Speaker 3: Can't wait to get to Green Bay. Actually, I am
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  Speaker 3: excited to see what they do up there. They've done
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  Speaker 3: such a great job with a history of the Packers
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  Speaker 3: and the league. I expect it to be as good
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  Speaker 3: as any city that toasted the draft since they moved
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  Speaker 3: it out of New York in twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 4: But what I'm really feeling about.
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  Speaker 3: This right now is, and John, you go back to
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  Speaker 3: the early days of this franchise, when the Jaguars got started,
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  Speaker 3: they were able to really be big players in free
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  Speaker 3: agency was one of them the hallmarks of the way
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  Speaker 3: that they built the team because the league gave them
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  Speaker 3: a completely clean cap, and so the Jaguars, is they
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  Speaker 3: were filling their roster with draft picks, were also equally
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  Speaker 3: sprinkling in free agents, and through their history that's something
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  Speaker 3: they've done. But you get the feeling that maybe the
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  Speaker 3: next thirty days are going to prove that that's changing
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  Speaker 3: in Jacksonville and that the draft is really going to
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  Speaker 3: be the heart and soul of this football program, like
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  Speaker 3: they've talked about, because the way that they approached free
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  Speaker 3: agency last month was about filling specific gaps and lower
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  Speaker 3: name players and lower contracts as opposed to the big,
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  Speaker 3: rich contracts that they had done for so many years.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we're seeing a seed change in the
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  Speaker 3: way that this franchise is going to approach building the roster.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that we'll know that for sure,
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  Speaker 5: but I know they're going to emphasize the draft. I
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  Speaker 5: mean it's I think most teams want to veer from
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  Speaker 5: free agency. What they do over the next thirty days
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  Speaker 5: until the draft will determine maybe in a year or two,
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  Speaker 5: what they don't have to do in free agency.
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  Speaker 6: They need to hit.
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  Speaker 5: As somebody wrote to me this week, it's nice to
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  Speaker 5: say draft and develop, but you got a draft well
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  Speaker 5: to develop. So I think the next thirty days definitely
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  Speaker 5: set the tone for this franchise moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: Now our next big thing. Today, you see the theme
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  Speaker 2: on the stream.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty well thirty million, almost thirty million dollars in cap
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  Speaker 1: space remaining for the Jaguars, even after the free agency
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  Speaker 1: spend that they did was about ten players coming in
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  Speaker 1: a free agency, none of those their own unrestricted free agency,
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  Speaker 1: the only team in the league to not sign their
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  Speaker 1: own unrestricted free agents, John, and so they had a
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  Speaker 1: little money to work with. Still, they got to save
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  Speaker 1: some for that draft class as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 5: I think they've got the money, but I don't think
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  Speaker 5: they want to necessarily spend it, certainly not till after
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  Speaker 5: the draft. They're gonna draft, and as James Gladstone said,
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  Speaker 5: they hope to have spots available for young guys to play.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's a few needs on this rosterbably a
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  Speaker 5: few more than the top three or four positions can fill.
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  Speaker 5: So would I be shocked if there was a pass
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  Speaker 5: rusher after free agency, some sort of low level veteran.
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  Speaker 5: But I hope that thirty million, except for the rookies,
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  Speaker 5: stays relatively the same, Right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it will. John, You're right on on
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  Speaker 4: that one.
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  Speaker 3: When you look at that though, JP, the thing that
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  Speaker 3: that really is is an indicator of the health of
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  Speaker 3: the franchise. You've got your quarterback, your top pass rusher,
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  Speaker 3: and your top cornerback all under contract for next year.
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  Speaker 3: A new group has come in and they've reworked through
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  Speaker 3: the roster the way that they want it and brought
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  Speaker 3: in and they spent now on those nine players. They
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  Speaker 3: spent some money and they're still in a position of strength.
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  Speaker 3: When you look at the health of a football team,
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  Speaker 3: the salary cap is one of the most important ways,
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  Speaker 3: like the heartbeat of the team. They've got the ability
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  Speaker 3: to do what they want with the roster right now
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  Speaker 3: with key players under contract. I just think it portends
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  Speaker 3: well as they head into this draft to be in
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  Speaker 3: such a strong position from the salary cap and they've
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  Speaker 3: got some.
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  Speaker 1: Dead cap money against them still with all the players
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  Speaker 1: they didn't bring back in the years.
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  Speaker 4: Fifty eight million, which is a huge number, but four
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  Speaker 4: in the league.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it goes to show though that they are
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  Speaker 3: taking a big bite out of that to be able
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  Speaker 3: to go forward the way they want. And they still
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  Speaker 3: have plenty of money if they want to maneuver and
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  Speaker 3: add a player here or there.
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  Speaker 1: Our final big thing today thirty visits Well, you can
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  Speaker 1: bring thirty prospects in during this period coming up. It
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  Speaker 1: is Pro day season right now. The visits will begin
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  Speaker 1: very soon, Brian, and you'll get a better idea that
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  Speaker 1: reports will probably come out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure of who's coming who's not.
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  Speaker 1: And this is when you get to spend a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot more time than you do with the combine.
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  Speaker 2: With these guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and looking at the thirty days and the thirty visits,
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  Speaker 3: they're really interconnected, John, because you're talking about getting guys
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  Speaker 3: in who you are very interested in, and you want
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  Speaker 3: to spend time with them, and you want them in
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  Speaker 3: your building so that your equipment team can get a
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  Speaker 3: little feel for who they are, and not just the
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  Speaker 3: medical team, but anybody else that might be involved and
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  Speaker 3: just offer an opinion. They're seeking to collect as much
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  Speaker 3: information as they can. And all the way back to
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  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven when Tony Gazales, the great tight end
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  Speaker 3: it's a Hall of Famer, came in, but he also
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  Speaker 3: came in with a guy named Seth Payne. And everybody
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  Speaker 3: knew Tony Gazales, but they said, who's this guy, a
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  Speaker 3: defensive tackle from Cornell?
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  Speaker 4: Why they're bringing him there.
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  Speaker 3: This was in the early iteration of these player visits
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  Speaker 3: and Seth Payne was a fourth round pick.
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  Speaker 4: It was a key player for them for five seasons.
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  Speaker 3: So you know you're going to find those guys through
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  Speaker 3: this process that you really like, and these visits are
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  Speaker 3: more about getting them in than the top prospects.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll actually be curious to see how this goes
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  Speaker 5: for the Jags. The Rams don't do much thirty visit
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  Speaker 5: and I'm not sure how much you know this is
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  Speaker 5: the north star of the Rams, right, Yeah, So I'll
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  Speaker 5: be curious over the next month to see how much
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  Speaker 5: the Jaguars take advantage of this. Some teams are going
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  Speaker 5: away from this a little bit, but when teams do this,
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  Speaker 5: it certainly is a chance, as Brian said, to get
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  Speaker 5: to know the prospect.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see and teams can do it different way. So
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  Speaker 2: we've seen Jag Wars regimes earlier.
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  Speaker 1: Bring in, you know, fifteen guys on one day and
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  Speaker 1: rotate them through all day long, or split them up,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll see what the Jags have in mind this
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  Speaker 1: go around.
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  Speaker 2: We've got plenty ahead. We'll come back in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: And take a look at the AFC South and talk
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  Speaker 1: about other teams behind their back.
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  Speaker 2: In our Division.
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  Speaker 1: What we love to do on jags Am. Welcome back
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  Speaker 1: to jags Am.
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  Speaker 2: Move the freight. Moved the freight, not everybody.
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  Speaker 1: At one time Magellan Transport put in the coolest office
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  Speaker 1: space in Jacksonville. Apply online at Magellanlogistics dot com. One
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  Speaker 1: of these days, you got some juice this morning, I
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  Speaker 1: get you guys to do that with me, all right,
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  Speaker 1: Today's not that day.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure as that too early.
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  Speaker 3: John, Today, I don't know we were supposed to jump in.
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  Speaker 4: I mean a little clue, move the freight.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, you got it. John, will get to you
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  Speaker 1: another time. Let's take a look at the AFC South.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the Jags. Clearly we were
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  Speaker 1: a Jaguars heavy centric know, but this team competes in
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  Speaker 1: the AFC South and it is a division that is
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of change could be on
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  Speaker 1: the horizon for some of these teams.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start off with the division champs.
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  Speaker 1: Last year, the Houston Texans, who limped towards the end
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  Speaker 1: of the season got.
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  Speaker 2: Into the playoffs. Of course, is the division champs.
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  Speaker 1: They've got Stroud, They've got changes up front on that
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  Speaker 1: line this offseason. Brian and you know, and then they've
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  Speaker 1: got a pass rush on defense, they've got pieces they
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  Speaker 1: write parts.
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  Speaker 2: How consistent can they be well?
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  Speaker 3: And they've got the quarterback too, right. I mean, everybody
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  Speaker 3: agrees that CJ. Stroud is a talented guy, but he
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  Speaker 3: was sacked way too often under pressure, way too often
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  Speaker 3: last year, and so they traded Laramy Tunseell, which raised
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  Speaker 3: eyebows in the league. He went to Washington, Laramy Tunsall asked,
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, you know, it is one of those guys
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  Speaker 3: that you really had to have two chin straps for.
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  Speaker 3: You had to be ready for this guy. And they
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  Speaker 3: traded him away and they brought in Cam Robinson. They
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  Speaker 3: were making a lot of different moves up front on
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  Speaker 3: their offensive line, and they feel like they have to
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  Speaker 3: and where they're acting at the bottom of the first round.
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  Speaker 3: There are plenty of good prospects on the interior of
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: That's the story for them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got to they've got to replace steph On
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  Speaker 3: Diggs and there's some other things they want to do.
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  Speaker 6: But CJ.
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  Speaker 3: Stroud is the engine. We've talked about Trevor Lawrence here
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  Speaker 3: being the engine for this team. And they felt like
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  Speaker 3: their offensive line was a big problem. When you Trey
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  Speaker 3: Laramie Tunsult, you're pretty much admitting that that's it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a big year for them, because really,
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  Speaker 5: I think one of the disappointing things for the Jags
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  Speaker 5: last year was the Texans were not a dominant team.
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  Speaker 5: This was not a dominant division, and they really didn't
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  Speaker 5: take a step forward. They made the playoffs, probably mostly
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  Speaker 5: because the rest of the division sort of just went
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  Speaker 5: away and C. J. Stroud was not great. He did
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  Speaker 5: not take the second year jump that people expected. They
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  Speaker 5: clearly believe it's the offensive line. It's a big year
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  Speaker 5: for that franchise and for Stroud because you know, if
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  Speaker 5: he has another year like last year, then all of
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  Speaker 5: a sudden, it's middling.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's really good, but there's.
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  Speaker 5: Some proving to do, and this franchise thinks this division
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  Speaker 5: is gettable and that the Texans are not beyond being reeled.
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  Speaker 2: In next year.
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  Speaker 1: Let's move along to your old stomping grounds, Indianapolis, John
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  Speaker 1: where the Colts have quarterback questions. Surprise, surprise, there were
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  Speaker 1: eight to nine last year. Anthony Richardson injured throughout the
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  Speaker 1: season so many different ways and times. Well, now there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a competition, they say out of Indy
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  Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones coming in as well at quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: It starts and ends there for the Colts, John.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's exactly what.
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  Speaker 5: A young quarterback who's been through with Daniel Jones has
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  Speaker 5: been through needs. I believe there's a trend in the NFL,
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  Speaker 5: and there's going to be a trend of quarterbacks failing
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  Speaker 5: with one franchise or failing at, you know, not being
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  Speaker 5: what that franchise thought.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of information to support you. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of those guys.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones is certainly a guy
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  Speaker 5: who can do that.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to pile on Anthony Richardson, but it
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  Speaker 5: was such a sealable thing that he might struggle from
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  Speaker 5: the very start when they drafted him, it was all
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  Speaker 5: un potential.
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  Speaker 6: There had not been a whole lot of collegiate success.
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  Speaker 5: They feel like a franchise in fux, but they've also
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  Speaker 5: been a franchised sense of luck retired really that if
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  Speaker 5: they get that position right, you always feel like they're
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  Speaker 5: two or three wins better. Have they got that position right,
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  Speaker 5: They're probably the division champions and Super Bowl contenders lately.
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  Speaker 5: So it's a big year for the direction of that franchise.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, they've had some success when they've had Matt Ryan, right,
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  Speaker 3: it was limited. Same thing with Joe Flackel. Well, those
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  Speaker 3: were older guys way up in years. Here, you've got
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  Speaker 3: a young, talented quarterback and things didn't work for him
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  Speaker 3: in New York. But I still remember the game here
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three where he kept the Jaguars off balance,
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  Speaker 3: running for more than one hundred yards and connecting just enough,
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  Speaker 3: you know, through the passing game to keep everybody off balance.
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  Speaker 3: So I think Daniel Jones can be that Sam Darnold,
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  Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield and listen, that roster. They need a couple
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  Speaker 3: of things up front. They've gotten old on both sides
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  Speaker 3: of the line, but they've got enough talent. When you've
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  Speaker 3: got a running back like Jonathan Taylor. If Daniel Jones
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  Speaker 3: steps in and is somewhere between Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold,
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  Speaker 3: you do have a contender at the top of the division.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there may be no other franchise that defines how
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  Speaker 5: a franchise can turn on a couple of games and
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  Speaker 5: a couple of good fortunes. They circumstances led them to
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  Speaker 5: get Peyton Manning, Andrew and Andrew Luck back to back
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  Speaker 5: in the right years to get franchise guys. And I
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  Speaker 5: remember being in Indian people around there saying, Hey, don't
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  Speaker 5: lose sight of how rare this is. Meaning when I
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  Speaker 5: was covering Peyton and you know, the franchise since Luck retired.
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  Speaker 5: It's almost like the football guys are saying, you only
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  Speaker 5: get that.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you can't have that always.
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  Speaker 5: But more than the football guides joke, it just shows
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  Speaker 5: the importance of the position quickly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Packers had farv and drafted Rogers and kept
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  Speaker 3: him for a couple of years and then got Love.
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  Speaker 3: So they're the only other franchise I can think of
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  Speaker 3: that's in that run. And obviously the Colts fell on
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  Speaker 3: hard times when Luck decided I don't want to play anymore,
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  Speaker 3: which you can't really do much about it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they could have drafted better on the offensive line. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they kept him upright, that might have kept him in
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  Speaker 1: the game a little bit longer. Also, I mean, for
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson to compete, you've got to be healthy and
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  Speaker 1: on the field to do that. He wasn't able to
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  Speaker 1: do that really a lot of times at Florida as well,
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  Speaker 1: was really neighboring his career college or pro Let's move
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  Speaker 1: down to Nashville Music City and Tennessee Titans have the
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  Speaker 1: number one pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft
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  Speaker 1: because they were three and fourteen a year ago. Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: swept them quarterback questions. Of course, you can go around
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  Speaker 1: any of these teams. Really at three and fourteen this record,
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  Speaker 1: the top five in the or so are going to
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  Speaker 1: have quarterback questions Will Levis or cam Ward. That seems
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  Speaker 1: to be the general consensus of mock drafts for the
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, including after his pro day yesterday when they
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  Speaker 1: sent the entire front office down to Miami Bryan.
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  Speaker 3: Well and all the reports were is that he was impressive,
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  Speaker 3: just like he was in his year at Miami, and
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  Speaker 3: he is a guy who's got a lot of tools.
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  Speaker 6: Now, if you took the.
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  Speaker 3: Last couple of years of quarterbacks, he wouldn't have stacked
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  Speaker 3: at the very top of that. But this happens to
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  Speaker 3: be that year, and they happen to be a team
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  Speaker 3: in need. They hire an offensive minded head coach and
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  Speaker 3: they've got to give him a quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: This just seems to be a no brainer.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be shocking, except that you see enough
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  Speaker 5: analysts and enough people mocking enough people around it who
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  Speaker 5: are acting like it's not a slam dunk.
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  Speaker 3: Yet for the quarterback. So well, is that because of
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback? Or you think they try to trade out.
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  Speaker 2: Of that spot.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean if they believe in cam Ward, which
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if they do or not, but they
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  Speaker 5: believe in cam Ord, they won't trade out of it.
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  Speaker 6: But it's not a done deal.
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  Speaker 5: And it does feel like, maybe more so than in
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  Speaker 5: a lot of recent seasons, if cam Ward gets taken
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  Speaker 5: number one, it will be very much a pushing up
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  Speaker 5: the draft board because a quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: That doesn't mean it can't work.
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  Speaker 5: But everything you hear is that neither of these quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 5: Ward or Sanders would be in the top ten if
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  Speaker 5: it was regardless of position. I can't see the Titans
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  Speaker 5: not doing this because, much like you've seen with this franchise,
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  Speaker 5: sometimes you get in position as a franchise with a
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  Speaker 5: coach and a GM and the talent base, you can't
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  Speaker 5: keep waiting on the quarterback because that's the you know
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  Speaker 5: that's the go button, right, So I'd be surprised they
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  Speaker 5: don't take a quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it also sets up for them to take
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  Speaker 3: a dual carter, right. I mean, Harold Landry has gone,
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  Speaker 3: he's now in New England, and you've got a guy
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  Speaker 3: in a dual carter that looks like an elite pass
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  Speaker 3: rusher who probably doesn't go any lower than two.
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  Speaker 6: So you could see the Titans.
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  Speaker 3: They're stuck there and they don't love the quarterback saying listen,
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  Speaker 3: we need an elite pass rusher who does it, We'll
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  Speaker 3: take him.
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  Speaker 1: You know what the Texans did a few years ago,
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  Speaker 1: trade it up and got both. Yeah, they got both
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  Speaker 1: their guys in the top three picks.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, worked pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Also a possibility, you never know. They've got to rebuilt
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  Speaker 1: offensive line. They've done some work in free agency in Nashville,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, some changes coming on defense. There's our
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  Speaker 1: look around the AFC South. We're back in a moment.
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  Speaker 1: here at the Bank and welcome back JP Shadwick, Brian
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  Speaker 1: Sexton and John Osier Jags am Impakai Stevens.
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  Speaker 2: Today NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 1: As we mentioned earlier about thirty days away in Green
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  Speaker 1: Bay from the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, Jags have
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  Speaker 1: the number five pick. So the question today is who
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  Speaker 1: do you want wearing teal next ball. I'll answer the
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  Speaker 1: question first, since before the camera's on me already.
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
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  Speaker 1: I like star power, I like competitiveness. I like guys
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  Speaker 1: with their hands on the football on both sides of
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  Speaker 1: the ball. Give me Travis Hunter of Colorado, the cornerback,
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver, which side would he play primarily on?
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  Speaker 2: Here?
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: It's a great question we can talk about that. Jags
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: do need some cornerback help. Jaggs could use another star receiver.
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  Speaker 1: He could do both. I like the fact that he's
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the only guy that we've seen in a generation in
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: college football that's even attempted something like this.
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  Speaker 4: Attens Cordy Lockball.
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  Speaker 1: He is at the top of his game. Obviously the
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  Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner wants to do it. Still, we'll see
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  Speaker 1: whatever team gets him allows him to do it.
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  Speaker 4: But which side would you put him on?
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  Speaker 1: I would put him at corner and give him some
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  Speaker 1: packages at wide receiver.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I would do.
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  Speaker 1: He's not going to be happy with that, but you
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  Speaker 1: know what, Hey, you're a rookie, Go play, prove yourself
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  Speaker 1: and then maybe there's more of the problem with it
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  Speaker 1: is that if he gets hurt, you lose two positions. Yeah,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: and that's where it becomes really trick.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, it seems like it could go either way.
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  Speaker 3: That people are talking about him as playing either one
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  Speaker 3: at a very high level and dabbling in the other.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think if he's there, I think there's a very high
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  Speaker 5: percentage chance that the Jaguars take him.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think that he will be there.
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  Speaker 3: So Okay, because of what you were talking about it
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  Speaker 3: was per absolute star power. People watched Colorado when they
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: weren't very good the last two years because of this kid.
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  Speaker 3: And every time I turned a game on it involved Colorado,
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  Speaker 3: I was looking for twelve. And the thing was, no
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  Speaker 3: matter what side of the ball was out there, you
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  Speaker 3: want a chance to watch him.
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  Speaker 4: You could watch this guy for sixty minutes.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to look far.
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  Speaker 6: The Great Players Draft.
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  Speaker 5: According to Allanos, it's Abduel Carter from Penn State and
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  Speaker 5: it's it's Hunter. So if either of those guys are
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  Speaker 5: available at five, I don't think they get.
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  Speaker 2: Too six fair enough Johnny, Oh, what do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Who do you want to see? Intel?
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  Speaker 5: Well, who I'd most like to see is who I
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  Speaker 5: just mentioned, Abdul Carter, But I think there's such a
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  Speaker 5: limited chance of him being there that I didn't go
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  Speaker 5: that direction. So I went Mason Graham, and he's sorted
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  Speaker 5: the chalk pick, the defensive tackle from Michigan. I understand
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  Speaker 5: that you love shiny objects, JP, so you love the playmaker,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: and there's nothing wrong with the Travis Hunter. But I
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  Speaker 5: think for this franchise right now, I feel like Mason Graham,
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  Speaker 5: from what you see is a very very very low
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  Speaker 5: risk player who can give you something that you need,
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  Speaker 5: which is stockiness, stoutness, all that stuff on the interior.
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  Speaker 5: I'll go with the defensive tackle who can be disruptive,
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  Speaker 5: which they haven't had in.
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  Speaker 6: A long time.
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  Speaker 4: Well, what this team really needs.
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  Speaker 3: Is a guy who pushed the pocket from the inside.
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  Speaker 3: They hope that Mason Smith develops into that or Jordan Jefferson.
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  Speaker 3: That's why they were picked last year where they were.
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  Speaker 3: But if you don't have.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody pushing the pocket from the inside, JP.
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  Speaker 3: You know this, I mean, it's just so much harder
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  Speaker 3: for Josh and for Trayvon to be able to get
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  Speaker 3: to the quarterback. Quarterback can step up into the pocket.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, this is a very logical, sensible pick.
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  Speaker 3: If he's there, and buy all accounts, he should be
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  Speaker 3: there ten youre guy, I.
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  Speaker 2: Argue with this pick.
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  Speaker 1: If it was made, I mean, this would be a
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  Speaker 1: significant piece for this defense.
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  Speaker 3: But this was sort of a wishless sort of fun exercise,
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  Speaker 3: and so I'm going I try to channel the Los
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  Speaker 3: Angeles Rams, right, I try.
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  Speaker 2: To what would they everybody in the building they do.
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  Speaker 3: That, and they would they'd look for a touchdown maker.
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  Speaker 3: So I went with Tyler Warren, the tight end from
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  Speaker 3: Penn State, who most people think is going to be
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  Speaker 3: picked in the top nine picks, probably doesn't get much
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  Speaker 3: lower than New Orleans. The reason why is he reminds
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  Speaker 3: me physically of Rob Gronkowski and stylistically like Travis Kelce,
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  Speaker 3: and if you can find a player that can give
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  Speaker 3: you all of that, he was so much fun to watch.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about fun, right, I mean not two sides of
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  Speaker 3: the ball like Travis Hunter, but a guy that they
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  Speaker 3: lined up all across the formation at running back, at quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: I just think for an offensive vine like Liam Cohen
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  Speaker 3: and the staff that they have down there, if you
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  Speaker 3: take a mismatch the size and quality of Tyler Warren
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  Speaker 3: and you put him on the field and let them maneuver,
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback will have a much much better time of
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  Speaker 3: executing what they want to an offense. It's a reach pick,
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  Speaker 3: but I take it because he looks like he's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a great player.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I did a couple of Penn State games
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  Speaker 1: last year, and I didn't do the Southern colgame where
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  Speaker 1: he literally lined up everywhere. He snapped the ball at
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  Speaker 1: one point and went out for a route how they
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  Speaker 1: lined up, but he's doing the direct snap. But then
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  Speaker 1: he's lined up in the slot and he's outside, he's
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  Speaker 1: full back. He does He did everything for Penn State,
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  Speaker 1: and then in the key moment against Ohio State, down
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  Speaker 1: at the goal line, they don't give him the football
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  Speaker 1: and they were turned away on fourth down. They corrected
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  Speaker 1: that the next week, two direct snaps to him, two
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns for Penn State at the goal line. He has
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  Speaker 1: that ability to just kind of be John a gamer,
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  Speaker 1: a guy that you can throw out there. You know
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to handle whatever you throw at
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  Speaker 1: him well.
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  Speaker 5: And the pick would make sense because they do use
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  Speaker 5: tight ends in that way, they could find a spot
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  Speaker 5: to use both Brenton.
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  Speaker 6: Strange and Tyler Warren.
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  Speaker 5: It would make a lot of sense for an offense
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  Speaker 5: that frankly, I believe you need four guys who can
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  Speaker 5: beat and make defenses nervous in the passing game. Right now,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: they believe they have Brenton Strange, Brian Thomas Junior, and
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  Speaker 5: John may Brown. This would give you that one more,
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  Speaker 5: maybe not at the receiver position, but it would give
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  Speaker 5: you at the tight end. And you know NFL has
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  Speaker 5: shown us in the last ten years. When you get
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  Speaker 5: a double tight end situation, if it's the right combination,
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  Speaker 5: it can work in the same capacity as having three wives.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they take him at five, but who knows.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody doesn't want to come up and grab someone
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  Speaker 3: and you can't go back to seven or eight, who knows.
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  Speaker 2: What if Hunter and Graham are gone.
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen, you know who I like, but I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what they think. I just if you watch Penn
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  Speaker 3: State and if you're looking for highlights to back this up,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: go watch, go, go, go to YouTube and find Tyler
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  Speaker 3: Warren highlights. You'll enjoy watching him play.
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  Speaker 2: Watched the Southern col game last year.
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  Speaker 1: That was the one out at the Coliseum that just
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  Speaker 1: opened everybody's eyes. I mean he touched the ball so
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  Speaker 1: many times. We've got plenty ahead, Actually not plenty. This
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  Speaker 1: is we're come back in a moment, We're gonna wrap
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  Speaker 1: this thing up.
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  Speaker 2: We're calling it at that I might have not enough ahead.
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  Speaker 2: John is done after this commercial break.
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  Speaker 1: It's always in season and Welcome back to Jags Am.
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  Speaker 1: JP Shadwick and for Kay Stevens.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for sex. That's Brian Sexton.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, John Oser salty vets here on the
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  Speaker 1: set today, Final moments here. The NFL annual meeting coming
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  Speaker 1: up next week in Palm.
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  Speaker 2: Beach, John, You'll be down there for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the big topics each owners meeting is
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  Speaker 1: proposals for rule changes, and there are some high level
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  Speaker 1: ones that will kind of touch on today. There's some
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  Speaker 1: kind of down in the weeds football business things we'll.
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  Speaker 2: Leave off today.
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  Speaker 1: But the number one that's I think gonna be Oh,
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  Speaker 1: there's a few controversies. Playoff seating was mentioned by one
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: of the teams as they wanted to change it where
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  Speaker 1: a wild card team can be seated higher than a
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: division champion.
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  Speaker 2: And I can't even believe I'm reading this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what's the point of divisions if you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: let the wild card team be seated higher.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like it.
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  Speaker 5: It seems like this gets brought up every five to
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  Speaker 5: seven years, and the instinct from fans as always, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know, if a team goes thirteen and four, they
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  Speaker 5: usually have a home game over at ten and seventeen.
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  Speaker 6: But I you guys have been around this long time.
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  Speaker 5: As I have NFL owners and league people, they value
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  Speaker 5: those division titles and they consider them very important.
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  Speaker 6: There's rivalries among owners.
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  Speaker 5: There's owners who have been in a long time who
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  Speaker 5: believe the division matters, and I don't think the league
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  Speaker 5: wants to. If you take that away, then why not
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  Speaker 5: just have conferences like back in the strike year where
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  Speaker 5: they just went one through eight and like reseated everybody.
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  Speaker 5: So I understand the feeling of inequity when you see
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  Speaker 5: it and it's that big of a gap. But part
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  Speaker 5: of the issue too is when you get like a
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  Speaker 5: nine and eight team and a ten and seventeen and
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  Speaker 5: there's not that much of a gap, owner's argument becomes, well,
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  Speaker 5: why should this team be punished for playing in what
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  Speaker 5: perhaps is a tougher division?
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  Speaker 6: And they won it, and you know, so there's both sides.
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  Speaker 6: I'd be stunned if it's changed.
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  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I was surprised that it was
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  Speaker 3: the Lions that brought it up because they had the
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  Speaker 3: number one overall seed.
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  Speaker 6: Last year.
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  Speaker 5: You were in that situation, lost in Minnesota, so it
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  Speaker 5: probably got minds thinking, and well mine start thinking dangerous stuff.
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  Speaker 3: This came to light to my memory the first time
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  Speaker 3: in twenty ten, when you had a Seahawks team that
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  Speaker 3: made the playoffs with a losing record and they hosted
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  Speaker 3: the Saints. If you recall that game, that was the
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Marshawn Lynch Beast play down game to bes Quick. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 3: and so ever since then they've looked at it. I
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  Speaker 3: am interested in the removal of the automatic first down
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  Speaker 3: on a five yard defensive holding right, because there are
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  Speaker 3: so many times where you've got a guy on third
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  Speaker 3: down and ten and he just holds just slightly and
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  Speaker 3: it becomes a first down.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. I can't believe that rule would get changed.
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  Speaker 3: I don't hold no, I'm with you, but it seems
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  Speaker 3: like there's some momentum.
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  Speaker 2: What's the alternative? I don't know. Five yeard penalty third
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  Speaker 2: and five.
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  Speaker 6: That smells that's what they want. That if they change it,
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  Speaker 6: it'll be for one year. In a year, they'll go, oh, no,
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  Speaker 6: that's not you know.
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  Speaker 5: I think it sounds some of these rules, and it's
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  Speaker 5: why the competition is why the competition committee is usually
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  Speaker 5: full of experienced people who've been through it, because some
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  Speaker 5: of these rules sound great on the surface, sort of
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  Speaker 5: like the past interference rule, A couple of years back,
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  Speaker 5: and then once you see it in play, you realize
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  Speaker 5: why the NFL it is slow to change because they
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  Speaker 5: don't want fiascos and to me, the holding that turns
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: into a lot of just hold it intentional grab. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that's what the league wants to see.
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  Speaker 6: In what is an offensive centric mindset.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Overtime rules could be on the table this week.
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  Speaker 1: You know the playoff rule now is that both teams
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: get a possession in overtime that goes fifteen minutes. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the proposal is to make that the same rule in
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  Speaker 1: the regular season.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, that goes back, Brian, sorry interrupted you.
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  Speaker 5: The competition committee will always try to air towards shorter
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  Speaker 5: because of injury risks, and because of there's a belief
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: that fatigued players laid in games and the more plays
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: you play are more.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: Setible an injury.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: That's why they cut out back when he said the
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  Speaker 5: fifteen minute over time. They're going to try to air
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  Speaker 5: towards shorter because that's what players want. But at the
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: same time that might be one that changes. The tush
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: push rules also up this year.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to feel at some point, since nobody else
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: has been able to do it like the Eagles have
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: that they'll finally outlaw this, and I think maybe it's
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: got a little traction to at least have a more
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: hearty discussion, because Jason Kelsey talked at length during the
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl week about how painful that process is for
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: a center, what dangerous it is for the interior offensive
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: and defensive line.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, saw what happened to Chris Jones with the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Chiefs when he lined up sideways and got in the neck,
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  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden in the Super Bowl
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: he's trying to figure out his neck the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 5: If they can convince people that it's dangerous, then it
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  Speaker 5: might get changed. I kind of think it's not going
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: to get changed for the simple reason that the Eagles
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: are the only team it's been consistously successful with it,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: because then if you change that rule, the Eagles are going, well,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: you know, just because we're good at something, you're changing it.
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  Speaker 6: So that's sort of the conflict. I wish they'd change it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't love the play, but I do wonder if
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: in a meeting, if Jeffrey Lourie is not going to
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: stand up and say, well, what happens if you come
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: up with a play that I don't like, So there
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: may be an element of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of the wording of these could be
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a catch to one of it
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: says part of it says, you know immediately after the snap, well,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: how long is immediately then you're getting into how long
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: can before you can push somebody. We'll see what they
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: come up with next week. Hey, this has been a show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thanks guys.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: You've definitely sure you jumping in.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, John, glad you made it.
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  Speaker 1: How about that's John Oser, That's Brian Sexton.
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  Speaker 2: I'm J. P. Shadwick.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks to our entire crew and thanks to you for
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