Latest / How To Protect The Ocean / Not again...Orca Mourns Second Calf Since 2018
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- 0:00In 2018, an orca designated as J35 of
- 0:03the Southern Resident Orca Population captured global attention
- 0:07when she carried her deceased calf for 17 days, traversing over
- 0:111,000 miles in a profound display of grief. This behavior highlighted the
- 0:15deep emotional bonds these creatures share and brought to light the
- 0:18precarious state of the Southern Resident Orca Population. Fast
- 0:22forward to December 2024, researchers from the Center of Whale Research confirmed
- 0:26that J35 had given birth to a new calf designated J61.
- 0:30Fantastic! The birth of the calf was a beacon of hope for
- 0:34the endangered Southern Resident Orca population, currently numbers only
- 0:3873,000. individuals. However, this optimism, unfortunately, was short
- 0:42lived. By January 1st, 2025, observations had
- 0:45revealed that J61 had passed away and
- 0:48J35 was once again seen carrying her deceased offspring.
- 0:52We're going to talk about the significance of this. We're going to talk about why this
- 0:56particular orca is found doing this twice and
- 0:59for so long on this episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast. Let's
- 1:03start the show. Hey
- 1:08everybody, welcome to a somber episode of the How to
- 1:11Protect the Ocean podcast. I'm your host, Andrew Lewin. This is the podcast where you find out
- 1:15what's happening with the ocean, how you can speak up for the ocean, what you can do to live
- 1:18for a better ocean by taking action. And on today's episode,
- 1:22we're going to be talking about the death of J61. Not
- 1:25a very enlightening episode, not a hopeful episode, but
- 1:29one of cautionary tale to say, hey, you
- 1:32know what? these orca pop this or southern resident orca population
- 1:36is in trouble. We're going to talk about why it's in trouble. We're
- 1:39talking about why it's so fragile and why these calves continue
- 1:43to die. There's only a 20% success rate in their
- 1:46survival a lot to cover today. But before we do, I just want to
- 1:50remind people if this is your first time here. I know it's the beginning of 2025. This
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- 3:01protect not only these orcas, but the ocean, and
- 3:05we're gonna help you do that. So unfortunately, the recurrence of
- 3:08this tragic event has prompted the reflection within the
- 3:11scientific community. Dr. Michael Weiss, Research
- 3:15Director of the Center of Whale Research, noted that while it's
- 3:18not uncommon for orcas to carry their dead calves, the
- 3:23duration observed in J35's case is
- 3:26exceptional. So it's a little bit unique. Michael Weiss stated, it's
- 3:29interesting that it's the same whale doing the same behavior again.
- 3:33It seems to suggest that there's something about her as an individual that
- 3:37makes this behavior more prominent. So the southern resident
- 3:41orca population faces multiple threats. The primary prey
- 3:45Chinook salmon is really, really low. Exposure to
- 3:48pollutants and disturbances from vessel noises also affect their
- 3:52population. These factors contribute to a high calf mortality, with
- 3:56studies indicating that only 20% of orca calves survive their
- 3:59first year. I want you to think about this for a little bit. We have orcas
- 4:03that are a long-lived species. They live in the wild. They can live for
- 4:07like 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, even 80 years old. They're a very long-lived species.
- 4:10It takes a while to get to sexual maturity. And for this population to
- 4:14continue to thrive, they have to be reproducing one,
- 4:17two, three, maybe even four calves a year. But if their population
- 4:21is only allowing 20% of these calves to survive to
- 4:24adulthood or pass even the first year, not necessarily to adulthood, then
- 4:28we are in trouble. Because eventually, this population, which
- 4:32stands at about 73 individuals, the older ones
- 4:35are going to start to pass away. And with all the disturbances that
- 4:38are happening, the noise, the lack of Chinook salmon, pollutants
- 4:43in the ocean, plastic pollution in the ocean, and
- 4:46climate change, of course, they're at risk of getting
- 4:50even, you know, even lower in numbers. So obviously this
- 4:53is something that we need to do and we need to take action. So conservation organizations
- 4:57emphasize the need for urgent action and the Center
- 5:01of Whale Research advocates for salmon habitat restoration, removal
- 5:05of dams that impede salmon migration. We got to get that Chinook
- 5:08salmon population up. This is what helps. sustainable fisheries management to
- 5:12ensure an adequate food supply for these orcas
- 5:15they assert every single birth every single
- 5:19birth counts and these whales need enough fish to
- 5:23be able to support themselves and their calves they are large
- 5:26individuals even as calves are large individuals but they grow to be even larger
- 5:30they grow to be 65 feet long, maybe even bigger
- 5:34at times, they have to be able to feed. They have to be
- 5:37able to eat. And if this southern resident orca population
- 5:41only eats Chinook salmon, they need their Chinook salmon. They need
- 5:44lots of it. So they can't handle when Chinook salmon come
- 5:48back, and they come back 15 million individuals
- 5:51less than what they left, or what they were proposed to come back as,
- 5:55or predicted to come back as, which has happened in the past. Food
- 5:58scarcity is a problem. It's not allowing them
- 6:02to grow and to be healthy. They need the fatty acids,
- 6:06they need the protein, they need everything they can to get from
- 6:09this Chinook salmon. They're not like the transient orca population where
- 6:13they can have sharks or whales or other fish or whales
- 6:17or marine mammals of that sort, seals and so forth. They're not like
- 6:20that. They need Chinook salmon. So they're very, very specific in
- 6:24their diet. In addition to food scarcity, chemical contamination
- 6:27poses a significant risk. Orcas are among the most
- 6:31contaminated marine mammals due to bioaccumulation of toxins
- 6:34like PCBs and DDT, which can impair reproductive
- 6:38and immune function. So there could be a reason why You
- 6:41know, these orca calves are not surviving past the first
- 6:45year. It could just be that they don't really have a chance once they're born because
- 6:48of the amount of chemicals, the amount of PCBs, the amount of DTDs
- 6:53that are in their system when they're born. Addressing pollution
- 6:57sources is crucial for their survival. So this loss
- 7:01of J61 is a stark reminder of the fragility of
- 7:05this southern resident orca population. However, there is
- 7:08a glimmer of hope. Another calf, J62, has
- 7:11been born in the J pod, and it appears to be doing
- 7:15quite well. We're gonna cross our fingers on that, knock on wood, knock
- 7:19on everything. The mother and sex of the calf are yet to be identified, but
- 7:23its birth offers a beacon of optimism amidst the
- 7:26challenges. Even though there's still a small chance that this
- 7:29orca calf will live past the first year, it looks like it's doing pretty well.
- 7:33And hopefully this jaypod can grow by
- 7:37this other calf, just by one. Even if they grow by one, it
- 7:40helps. Now you gotta remember, this is a long-lived species, so hopefully it's a
- 7:43female. so that it has some reproductive ability later on, and
- 7:47it could birth a number of different individuals. But
- 7:50as we reflect on J35's story, it's imperative to recognize the
- 7:54broader implications for marine conservation. Protecting
- 7:58the ocean requires a multifaceted approach. You can't just go out
- 8:02protecting one species. Addressing issues from habitat restoration
- 8:06to pollution control is extremely important. By supporting
- 8:09conservation initiatives and advocating for sustainable practices, each
- 8:13of us can contribute to the preservation of these majestic
- 8:16creatures and health of our ocean. I can't tell you
- 8:20enough how hard and how complex it is to protect the
- 8:23ocean. I say this every episode. It's not an easy thing. You can't
- 8:26just go out and protect these wonderful species.
- 8:30It's not just that easy. They're in danger. They're already protected. There's
- 8:34no need to further protect just that species. You
- 8:37have to address the pollution. You have to address the
- 8:41changes in their environment from climate change to ocean noise.
- 8:45With climate change brings more ocean noise, believe it or not. There's
- 8:49more shipping going on. There's shipping going on north of Canada through
- 8:52the Northwest Passage, but there's also increased shipping along
- 8:56the West Coast where these orca resident populations are. They
- 9:00are vulnerable, and we need to protect them. They are an apex predator.
- 9:03They are very smart. We can learn a lot from them. We still don't know very
- 9:06much about these species. We still don't know very much
- 9:10about this species. We still have so much more
- 9:13to learn. And what comes with learning about
- 9:17them could help us in the future as humans. They're very similar
- 9:20to us. And there's strong cultural connections to indigenous populations within
- 9:24the area, within Puget Sound, right within the BC coastline. This
- 9:27is very important for the people who have a cultural tie to
- 9:31the species. In some indigenous populations, their ancestral
- 9:35souls will go into orcas, and they're believed to
- 9:38become orca populations. Very similar to Avatar 2, where
- 9:42they cover that. where the souls of the indigenous people within,
- 9:45like the water people within that movie, went to the whale
- 9:49population of whatever they called those whales. I forget what they called those
- 9:52whales. And so a death of those whales meant a death of
- 9:56one of their ancestors. And that deep connection was
- 9:59lost. And that obviously isn't good. Not
- 10:02only from a cultural perspective, but also from a biological and ecological perspective.
- 10:06So protecting these species requires not only do we protect the
- 10:09species themselves and observe them and find out what we can, but we also
- 10:13have to protect what's around that. We have to protect the water. That
- 10:16means controlling what goes into the water and keeping certain harmful
- 10:20things out. There are ports along that coastline that are not
- 10:23only in the U.S. but in Canada, very important ports, all
- 10:27up and down that coastline. And there are chemicals that
- 10:30come out of that. There are spills that happen, oil spills. There are
- 10:34spills from whatever's being shipped. There's potential non-point
- 10:38sources and point sources. So point sources are where we know what's coming out
- 10:42or a pipeline of some sort of what's going in. So it
- 10:45could be wastewater, it could be anything, right? Sewage water, it doesn't matter.
- 10:48We know that it's coming at a specific point. It's at a pipe or
- 10:51something like that, but it's at a specific point. Non-point sources is where
- 10:55we just can't track where they're actually coming from. But we have to take water
- 10:58samples all up and down the coast to find out where these contaminants are coming from.
- 11:02Now, we have to look at the prey. Bioaccumulation in
- 11:05orcas happens because they're eating
- 11:09so many fish. So bioaccumulation is happening in the fish. So
- 11:13it's going all the way down the food web. And when it comes up the food web, it
- 11:16accumulates in each of the bodies. So as the bodies get bigger and bigger, they eat more
- 11:19and more prey that are contaminated. they get that contamination
- 11:23goes into the tissues and when it gets up to the orcas, then that's how they
- 11:26start to deteriorate. They're not as healthy and they're not as fit
- 11:30to not only give birth but also to nurse a newborn, a
- 11:33newborn calf in this situation. I'm not blaming J35 for
- 11:37anything, right? She is just a product of her environment. But
- 11:41that could be one of the reasons, we don't know for sure, but that could be one of the reasons why
- 11:44J61 passed away. but there is new hope and they're going to be
- 11:47looking at J62 to be that new hope. Hopefully J62
- 11:52survives. In the meantime we are observing J35 mourning
- 11:55the loss of her young, her second, now
- 11:59called J61 and she's going to be carrying this around for
- 12:03a few weeks and she's going to be showing the world that hey
- 12:06you know what there's something wrong here and my calf has
- 12:09died because of it. We are doing something wrong. Now there's a lot of
- 12:13people out on social media who are looking at
- 12:16different aspects of what is happening
- 12:19here, the significance of the mourning process. Scientists
- 12:23are looking at this as a mourning process. It's very unique to
- 12:26J35 in this situation that we know of, where she floats
- 12:31the calf for more than two to three weeks. but
- 12:35you know it's a process and some people are looking into it they're anthropomorphizing it
- 12:39they're making it seem like it's more of human abilities or
- 12:43human characteristics that you know they're mourning this process we don't know
- 12:46exactly why they do it we assume that they're mourning the process the
- 12:49songs that are coming out the noises that are coming out of the orcas seem like it's
- 12:52a somber sort of it's a somber conversation that's that's happening
- 12:56but and this is how they get over it they're extremely sensitive species and
- 13:00they definitely have that emotional intelligence but we can't look too
- 13:03far into it and we can't get too down in what we see happening
- 13:07right now there are ways that you can mourn there are ways that you can help
- 13:11and i'll put some of the conservation organizations especially the organizations
- 13:14that I've mentioned in here, which is the Orca
- 13:18Whale Research, I believe. What's it called? Sorry, the Center of
- 13:22Whale Research. And we will find out how you can donate to
- 13:25support this organization in observing not only the southern resident
- 13:29orca population, but other orca populations in the region. to make
- 13:32sure that they're doing well as well. You got to remember these orca
- 13:35populations for the southern residents have had a really traumatizing
- 13:40past number of decades. Going back to the 1970s where
- 13:44many of them were taken, many of them died in the process of being
- 13:47taken for marine theme parks and they still haven't been
- 13:51put back. A lot of them have died in that process. The big
- 13:54loss was when they took about 50 individuals from
- 13:57that population. Now there's only 73 left. They've had a really tough
- 14:01time recuperating because of the lack of prey, there's ways
- 14:05to get around that, there's ways to increase the Chinook population, and
- 14:08that is to tear down dams, that is to make sure that
- 14:12pollution is in better control, and that comes to government,
- 14:15that comes putting pressure on government to make better policies. and
- 14:18make sure they follow the policies that they have already. So that's a big thing
- 14:22that we need to find out when you hear these stories. It's not
- 14:25only that you feel sad for these orcas, but there's action to
- 14:28be taken, and there's action that you can go through organizations like
- 14:32the Center for Whale Research, but also other nonprofit organizations local
- 14:36to the area that have a really good beat on
- 14:39what's happening in that area, what's happening with the policy. They can inform
- 14:43you better, and they can show you where you can put your action into use.
- 14:46check those out in the links below. That's it for the episode today. Sorry to
- 14:50start off the week with such a bad episode in terms of topic wise, but
- 14:53I feel like it's something that we need to discuss. It's something that needs to be addressed.
- 14:57It's being covered all over the place. And what I, again, what I don't want
- 15:00people to do is just to look at this and be like, oh man, these orca species, they're
- 15:04done for. They're not done for. We can save them. We need to save
- 15:07them. And you can help by starting by looking at these organizations,
- 15:11finding out more, and just, you know, you already started by looking
- 15:14at this video and listening. and showing that you can take
- 15:18action and then that's what's necessary on these on these types
- 15:21of topics so check that out in the link below if you want to
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